1 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: It is the eighteenth of July twenty twenty two, and 2 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: it's time for a little morning combat. Extra credit. Luke Thomas, 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. We already gave you the Regular MK. Got 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: a surprise little co host here normally joined this vehicle 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: right the other dude, as Joe Rogan aptly noted his 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: name was, he's gonna join me today. We're gonna go 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: as we will normally do thirty minutes or last five 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: other fights from the weekend that we did not get 9 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: to on Regular MK. We'll get to them here. BC. 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 2: You got any questions for I just want to see 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: if the guys in that could turn the sound off 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: of them like talking to each other, so we could do. 13 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: The playing Fortnite while we're doing this. 14 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, get a new skin. 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Go thumbs up on the video. If you're watching, 16 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: please hit subscribe. If you're listening to a podcast platform, 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: give us a nice review see Long Island Card Deliver 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: It certainly did one quick point about that. We'll start there, actually, BC, 19 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: we didn't really talk about it so much on Regular MK. 20 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: First things first, before we get to the five fights 21 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: that we normally do for extra credit here the podcast 22 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: Within the podcast, I was saying that these like these, 23 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: these fight night cards on the road are like little 24 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Goldilocks cards because the ones at the Apex are a 25 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: little too cold, the UC two seventy six is a 26 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: little too hot. This is right in the middle. And yes, 27 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: the main event was a bit of a dun in 28 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: the way that it ended in that sense, But dude, 29 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: these cards in the road Austin, this one London this weekend, 30 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: I got a good feeling about. They seem to be winners. 31 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a surprise that New York based 32 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: fight cards in boxing or MMA tend to deliver great 33 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: fight fans, you know, Luke, being a Northeast guy, Tristate 34 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: area guy like myself, I think I can sit in 35 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: the middle of that and be happy. 36 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: We talked to UFC representatives and we were in Vegas 37 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: UC two seventy six, and they seem to give us 38 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: the indication there's going to be a lot more stuff 39 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: on the road in twenty twenty three. 40 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: You don't see them going to DC much. I'll tell 41 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: you that. 42 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: Okay, they went. Recently, they went to wrap it for 43 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: the pandemic where Fairfax. That was when overream fought Rosenstrike 44 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: at the I guess at the time it was the 45 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: Hoverizon Center, but now it's the cap One Arena. Anyway, 46 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: neither here nor there. Okay, five fights for you here 47 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: to start today's five for fighting. Five fights today to 48 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: start today's show. I'm hoping that BC doesn't derail everything. 49 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Let's start with the co main event from the weekend, 50 00:01:59,120 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: a women's straw. 51 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: I think you're such a jerk. I mean, you really are. 52 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: You know Amanda Leimosh defeating Michelle Waterson BC. This happened 53 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: at one forty eight of round two via guillotine choke. 54 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Waterson shop for a takedown and got defended. Lemosh came 55 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: on top and then got the guillotine jump for it 56 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: and that was a wrap. We had talked about it 57 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: on Friday show that this was her chance to Yeah, 58 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: she was listening to the j checks and whatnot. This 59 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: was a chance to beat someone who was actually outside 60 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: the top ten and she couldn't get it done. Your 61 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: takeaway as what. 62 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: Here's what's hard about this and it's hard to sort 63 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 2: of judge the same harshness we did on the main show. 64 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: I'm talking about Misha Tate. It's a little bit different situation, 65 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: of course, But we said Marson coming in being in 66 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: this great level of shape, no stone's unturned. If she 67 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: can't save it now, she'll never be able to save it. 68 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: She actually looked good for someone, you know what I mean. 69 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: She looked in great shape, She looked good, and then 70 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: it just didn't go her way. But it's not one 71 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: of those disastrous losses in a vacuum in itself. She 72 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 2: fought a very good fighter who's rising, and she came 73 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: up empty. She ended up tapping out. But in the 74 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: totality of the losses, it's hard to sit here and 75 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: be like, all right, just go to the back to 76 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: the drawing board again. But that's essentially what she said 77 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: video to her fans on Instagram. I believe you know 78 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: in the twenty four hours that followed it, and you 79 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: would say, this isn't somebody that you're looking at going 80 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 2: you're doing a disservice to yourself. Outside of the succession 81 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: of losses, she still looks pretty damn hungry in game, 82 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: but she's not getting around that urn. She didn't get 83 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: her ass kicked, she didn't get fully beat up. 84 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: This was not some thrashing in fact, you could maybe argue, 85 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: I haven't seen the scorecards, but certainly she had I 86 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: think a takedown and around number one there's a lot 87 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: of striking a distance where she was hitting nothing but air, 88 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: which is a little bit of her sort of herm. 89 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: But you're right, she didn't get thoroughly dominated in some 90 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: kind of troubling way. 91 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: Me she Tate was getting lit up. I felt bad, 92 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: way right. 93 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Very very different scenario. However, You're looking for her to 94 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: like get back in the winner circle, do something that 95 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: would separate her from her contemporaries, and it just didn't 96 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: really work out that way. Limos, by the way, really 97 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: smart to always we talked. You know, I mentioned this 98 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: on the postfight show. If you have a wrestling coach 99 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: and you shoot and it fails, they'll tell you each 100 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: other person, the next best thing to do is shoot again. Reshot, reachhout, 101 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: reach out, reshot. And so here it was Lamo's turning 102 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: defense into offense, stuffing the shot and then jumping the 103 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: guillotine when most people think you're just gonna disengage great 104 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: presence of mind. 105 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Waterson didn't have an answer for it. It doesn't make her 106 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: a bad fighter. 107 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: By in stutch of imagination, but I'm waiting to see 108 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: something that lifts her. 109 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: Yes, I've not seen that, and you know, she's still 110 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: got the hunger and that's great, but she's gonna have 111 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: to be a gatekeeper name for others to sort of 112 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 2: test themselves against. At this point, it's in that territory. 113 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Now. 114 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: You hate to see that, but that's where it's at. 115 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: She's still fresh enough where I'm not would an advisor 116 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: to go away, but it's like, how many more? Could 117 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: there be another loss? Could she get another opportunity against 118 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: a decent name and a certain spot maybe because of 119 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: her name and because of how game she still is. 120 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 2: But you're only gonna be able to tolerate, whether you're 121 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 2: matchmakers in management or fans. So many losses in a row, 122 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: and it's tough to see because she's somebody that works 123 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: so hard and she's in there. But this is should 124 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 2: be more about Amanda Lamos Luke. In a division with 125 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 2: all killers, like women's strawweight, you have to show something 126 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: plus to your game for us to take you serious 127 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: as a legitimate title contender. Marina Hadriguez has shown that too, 128 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: a large to what's her name Mackenzie Dern has certainly 129 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 2: showed a plus side to her game that if she 130 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: can potentially grab onto it and find it, she could 131 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: be a factor. Y'all shun on to a different degree. 132 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: Do you think Amanda Leemost is showing that right now? 133 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: She certainly is, and I think obviously her she has 134 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: a ton of finishes on her record. The only thing 135 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: that is holding her back is time. She's thirty five. 136 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: She's thirty five, so that to me is one critical 137 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: element where like, this was an important win for her 138 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: to get. She got a win, but via finish, she's 139 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: off to the races. But she doesn't have, in my judgment, 140 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: a lot of time to make mistakes. Right. She got 141 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: beat by Androge Okay, fair enough, that was what it was. 142 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: That was a crazy win by Androg and she has 143 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: shown incredible strength. I guess I'm just sort of saying, 144 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: this was a nice win, but you really got to 145 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: keep it going because I don't know how many more 146 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: of these are going to be as time expires and 147 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: the best of your athleticism leaves you. 148 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: By the way, can you hear some respect to the 149 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: family and call her Waters and Gomez. 150 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: Waterson Gomez that's right, that's her new name, all right, 151 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: jumping down the card here, I'll be curious to hear 152 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: how you scored it. Shane Berger defeats Charles Jordan via 153 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: majority decision twenty nine to twenty eight on two judges 154 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: scorecards and then one twenty eight twenty eight. There was 155 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: the card that was troubling we see was they gave 156 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: round two to Burgos as a ten eight, but then 157 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: they gave round three to Jordan. 158 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: That was the twenty eight twenty eight right as a 159 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 2: ten to nine. 160 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: Not my favorite scorecard in the work score This is 161 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: a what the hell were you watching? 162 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: Look? If you wanted to give Jordana ten eight in 163 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: round three, right, you can go okay, right? It was 164 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 2: kind of falling apart from Burgos. How did I score 165 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: it two rounds to one? I thought Burgos one one 166 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: and two two was one of the two were closer 167 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 2: than the other. But to give ten to eight in 168 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: either of the first two rounds, it is just you 169 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: don't know what you're watching, right. I even think a. 170 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Tenn eight one was reasonably close issue. 171 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think a tenna in the third round 172 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: for Jordan would even have been a little too aggressive. No, 173 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: he did dominate it start to finish. I don't think 174 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: necessarily that he was like rag doaling Burgos, but that's 175 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: his troubling scorecard. At least the right guy won it, 176 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: because in theory, this is a matchup between two guys 177 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: both very tough, which one's coming and going to see 178 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Shan Burgos digging in and say I want a new contract. 179 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: I'm comming I'm not going and then get the win, 180 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: I think rightfully. So outside of him having to hang 181 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 2: on and bite down in the third, this was a 182 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: pretty strong performance overall, as striking was crisp. He may 183 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: take on more damage than you would want for somebody 184 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: at this level, but I really like this Shane Burgos performance. 185 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: Lake. 186 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: Well, it got Harry in the third, Yes, but I 187 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: don't get that third scorecard, and I thought this was 188 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: surviving advance. Let's get in to another big fight. 189 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: You know. Usually I'm not one of these guys who 190 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: when someone's like, oh, neither guy lost stock, I'm like, eh, 191 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: one guy lost stock. In this case, I'm actually not 192 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: so sure that Jordan lost stock. For two reasons. One, 193 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: I thought that Burgos is grappling and like pushing off 194 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the fence to take the back. I thought that was great. 195 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Like we always talk about the fact that he's got 196 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: well rounded skills and then he just decides to box 197 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: in the pocket. Well, this time he decided to do 198 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more than boxing in the pocket. I 199 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: really appreciated that, although it kind of cost him. The 200 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: grappling cost him because he couldn't really move because his 201 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: legs were fried. So Jordan came back big time and 202 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: the third and was putting it on him. But nevertheless, 203 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: did Shane Burgo show you he's more than just a 204 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: guy who's wanting to brawl in the pocket and have 205 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: those kinds of boxing affair, Yes, he did, and that 206 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: won him the contest. 207 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: Love that sometimes guys have to hang on. It's a 208 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 2: beat versus Calvin Cato around three. Sometimes you got to 209 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 2: hang on. It doesn't mean necessarily that you're compromise, that 210 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: that that you know what I mean, the other guy 211 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 2: had better around. 212 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: And also like he would probably use this experience to 213 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: calibrate how much grappling should I do and what kind 214 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: of way should I apply going forward learning experience, he 215 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: still gets the dub. That's important. In the case of 216 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Charles Jorda. It didn't look like he fully believed he 217 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: could win in round one, but by round three he 218 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: knew he could win. 219 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: We also had to and he and he got to 220 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: and he had to. 221 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, like, did Charles Jordan show 222 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: me that he has what it takes to compete against 223 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: the top fifteen in that division one hundred percent? And 224 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: other way? Obviously? Yes he did. Did he show you 225 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: that as well? 226 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: He did? But it's a work in progress, right, and 227 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: that that's fair to say at this point. Yes, this 228 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: is a tough loss against a tough competitor. Now do 229 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: you think there's people that are arguing that he should 230 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: have one? Is that what you sort of were trying 231 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: to some people? 232 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't mind a scorecard that's either, dude, This 233 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: is the art of judging the reality. Is a draw conceivable? Yes? 234 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: Is it a scorecard for Jorda conceivable? Yes? Is the 235 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: scorecard for Burgos one that I personally agree with? Yes? 236 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: I also am with you. I would have either gone 237 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: ten nines across the board or I would have given 238 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: a ten eight in round three? 239 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: Made it? Yes, the right way, and now we got 240 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: there the wrong way. Unfortunately. 241 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Right. So it's not that I mind the scorecards in 242 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 1: that sense I saw people doing like Jordana was robbed. 243 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: He was not robbed. It's not a robbery. I but 244 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: it's a close fight and it comes down to one 245 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: round going one way or the other. It's not a 246 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: fucking draw. I do agree that the way which the 247 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: ten eight versus the ten nine was a portioned is 248 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: a head scratcher. That part, to me, is a little bit. 249 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: That's why I really wish that referees and judges were 250 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: had to show up at the postfight press conference, had 251 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: to take that stand and just at least defend themselves 252 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: because a lot of these times are like, oh that 253 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: scorecard is so bad, they must be you know, taking money, ignorant, 254 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Well sometimes they may be seeing things 255 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: under a Look, we've we talked about the scoring structure. 256 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: Stop using the word damage. The word is impact. Impact 257 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: can be gauged in different ways. So if someone's putting 258 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: out scorecard like this, let's find out why, and if 259 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: it exposes them, then it exposes them. But if not, 260 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't that better answer the questions then just going oh 261 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: this every time it happens to boxing. We go, oh, 262 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: this sport is corupted. 263 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: Stupid? 264 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: Is boxing corrupted? 265 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: Stupid? 266 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 2: Yes, and a lot of ways. Yeah, of course it is. 267 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: So Unfortunately, this reinforces something that in a lot of 268 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 2: these cases it may not be if you judge, like 269 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: like that, who was that first base umpire who blew 270 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: that perfect gamer no hitter about ten years ago? Do 271 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: you remember that? It was a close play at first 272 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: it was the Tigers were involved, and afterwards he was 273 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: like crying. He was like, I blew it. You know, 274 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 2: he stood up, he took that out. He was willing 275 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: to do dead wrong. Morning Coombat at gmail dot com. 276 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 2: Let's get these commissions to do the same thing. 277 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, or just issues some kind of one paragraph about 278 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: why you judged the fight. It's some kind of indication 279 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: for what you saw and why you saw it the 280 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: way that you did. Give us a little bit of 281 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: direction about why it went that way. Because I have judges, 282 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: I have personal relationships with it. We'll tell me things 283 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: off the record, but I want something on the record 284 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: about this. I will say the good news. Burgos has 285 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: apparently re signed with UFC, so he's going to be 286 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: back for more. He was going to keep his top 287 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: fifteen king position. I think it was fourteen or fifteen 288 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: heading into this. 289 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: So make a fight for him, Calvin Cator, that's. 290 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: A little bit too far apart. I'm looking at the ranking. 291 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: Give me an in between featherweight fights. 292 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: So the Iliotopurrio, Oh boy, it's in Barboza, Sadik, Yusef 293 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: dan Ega somewhere in there. Okay, I'm in any any 294 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: of those. The dan Egay fight in particular would be 295 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: very good. 296 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: Would I would have? I just want to let the 297 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 2: world know. I would have Shaneburgos on that couch. I 298 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: would That's me talking because he's a real man. 299 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: Uh. He certainly is. Although that hair of his was 300 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: it was all over the place. I don't hate it, 301 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: all right, So let's go down to the preliminary card BC. 302 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: What do you say about this guy? What a performance 303 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: to me? I wish the regular morning combat was longer 304 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: so we'd have more time to talk about it. How 305 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: about Ricky Simone defeating Jack fucking Shore three twenty eight 306 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: of round number two via arm triangles. Joke, dude, this 307 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: was amazing by Ricky Simone. It was one way track, 308 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: totally slept on. He came in there, did what he 309 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: had to do, hurt him on the feet, finished him 310 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: off on the ground. This is a black belt in 311 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu. This is nobody's fucking bitch. Jack is very, 312 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: very good. Ricky Simone finally got rid of the mullet. 313 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: What did you make of his perfore? 314 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, people, I got the wrong info. The people telling 315 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 2: me the mullet was back, they were wrong. I was wrong. 316 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 2: I was wrong about him. I said, go Jack Shore 317 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: In fact, do you see Aeriel tweeting minutes before that 318 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: fight started of saying, this is like the real co 319 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: main event. Why is it buried on the prelim card 320 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: like this? I don't disagree with him in that regard, 321 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: Although those tweets were definitely shot in the direction of 322 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: a potential Shore win. I thought, sure would good Win 323 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: to see someone jump through the screen with his control 324 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: of this fight, with his with his body. First of all, dude, 325 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: he's like in next level shape at the moment. 326 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: Yeah he's. 327 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: I mean, he's you know, it's back day every day. 328 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: It seemed like for him he is jacked up. He 329 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: almost said Bellah Mohammad type pet peck. So I remember 330 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: the Nipple on that right. You know what I mean. 331 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: Remember the name that you. 332 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Don't want to ruin this podcast is the analysis will 333 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: work all. 334 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: Right, analysis wise, just the confidence was surging, the commitment 335 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: to the ground game, and just the next level stuff 336 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 2: he added on to it. The aggression was next level 337 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: everything about it. You saw the motivation. He realized he 338 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 2: was potentially gonna be fodder for a guy that was 339 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: coming on with a big audience behind him and Jack Shore, 340 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: and he humbled them. Look, and that was a breakthrough performance. 341 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: It's not that Ricky Simone hasn't looked good before. It's 342 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: not that anyone holds a loss to old man Faber 343 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: against him. It's part of the journey and climbing. But Luke, 344 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: he's kicked the doors open. He's ready for the next 345 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: level and it was great to see that. 346 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got two losses in the UFC. He has 347 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: a loss to favor. As you indicated via TKO, this 348 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: is all the way back in twenty nineteen, so about 349 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: three year Yeah, July twenty nineteen, so about three years ago, 350 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: actually July thirteenth, almost three years of the day. And 351 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: then Rob thought he has a decision loss to Rob FONP. 352 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: But since then he beat Ray Borg, some dude named 353 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: Gaetano Perellio. I don't know how he pronounce this dude's name, 354 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: but then he really begins to turn it Brian Kelleher 355 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: and then hat fil Sunseiut and you're like, Okay, Keller, 356 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Hur's very good, but he can be a little bit 357 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: up and down, a sunshow, a little bit long in 358 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: the truth, even though he had one time he was 359 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: very good. But it's tough out is but Jack Shore, 360 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: to me, this one the reason why this stands out 361 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: is because Jack Shore undefeated heading into this a ton 362 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 1: of promotion in the UK market from Wales obviously black 363 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: ben jiu jitsu. What he had shown in his previous 364 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: contest is the ability to Yeah, sometimes the guys might 365 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: win around, but he is very good about for the 366 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: most part, controlling, making good decisions, getting to positions where 367 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: he needs to, applying the pressure in the right kind 368 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: of offense when it calls for it. Just made really 369 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: really smart decisions. And I thought that Ricky Simone, I 370 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: knew he was better physically, which he's going to be 371 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: better physically than most guys. Remember he beat Rob in 372 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: that crazy ass contest that they had anybody who can go, 373 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, race for Raco to speak with. Morob has 374 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: got an amazing gastick, but I wanted to see could 375 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: he be more than just a physical bruiser. And in 376 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: this contest, dude, he outstruck him basically and then finished 377 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: him off on the ground like that. That to me 378 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: told me this guy's got serious potential. 379 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: It's just a body language. It's different now. Look, it's 380 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: different now he believes in himself. He turned a corner internally. 381 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: You can see it. You can tell on the flip side. 382 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: Humbling for Jack Shore, Yes, but you know how nervous 383 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: should should the Jack Show super fans be? 384 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Not very twenty seven years old? This is his first loss, 385 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: and before this one, recall who he had beaten. He'd 386 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: beaten to more Valev, who I have as a very 387 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: good fighter. It's not like he Yes, the other ones 388 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: he had beaten Hunter Azure was a split. Okay, that's 389 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: not the highest of the high uh. And then some 390 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: other dudes that you know from the Contender series or whatever. No, sorry, 391 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: he beats mil Helli and Hernandez. Yes, that's not the 392 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: most impressive win by any stretch. But but Ricky Simone 393 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: to me to be the guy, this quality says a lot. 394 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: And after twenty seven you're not even in your prime yet. Yes, 395 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: you have time to get better, to work on this. 396 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say is Jack Sure's style. 397 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: To me, it's very cerebral. He's very well rounded. Again, 398 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: this is a very good fighter. But I think this 399 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: might be a bit of a wake up call for 400 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: him because there's some physical powerhouses in the UFC, and 401 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a certain degree of intensity exactly bring 402 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: to this match that he needs to bring. 403 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: Physicality even just that next level is sort of like, Okay, 404 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: long term, being technical is gonna be the best thing 405 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: for him, but there's going to be some matchups against 406 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: some people on the right night that can just outwork 407 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: you and out strong you. And that's kind of what 408 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: happened here. He got outwilled in a lot of way. 409 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 2: He's closest fight for for early stretches, but it was 410 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: pretty much all Ricky Simon. And to get the finish 411 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 2: loop on top of that, yeah, damn. 412 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: And I thought he wasn't gonna get it. I thought 413 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: he threatened and get out of it. He must go 414 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: to he must have it. 415 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: We now have to We now have to take him 416 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: very seriously. Now, I would like where. 417 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: Does he get These are not the updated rankings, so 418 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't know where he sits at the moment. Let's see. 419 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: But currently at bansamweight, Ricky Simone is only sitting at 420 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: thirteen and Sean Omalley is sitting at twelve. And he 421 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: called out Sean Omaley. You like that fight. 422 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: I love that call out. 423 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: I tell you that's a tough fight for Sean O'Malley. 424 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: It's a tough fight for both of them. And that's 425 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: why you love it. Yeah, that's why you love it 426 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: right now. And if you're Ricky Simone and you want 427 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: to get taken seriously and you want to be a star, yeah, 428 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: call out that guy. Call out the guy that could 429 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: probably give you the largest audience right now. Short of 430 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: fighting a top three guy, you know, Attila Shaw, a 431 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: champion on that level. Short of getting to that group 432 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: and he's not there yet, the best move to make 433 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: a giant leap would be to go through o'melly. It 434 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 2: really would. 435 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if Amali's going to take it, 436 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: given he was getting top five or top ten ranked 437 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: guys before and outside of that. But what I love 438 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: to see it. I would love Morob fighting. 439 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: Doesn't he have a fight? 440 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: Come out? He is fighting Aldo? 441 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: Oh good lord, I love that one. 442 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 1: I forgot. Yes, that is August twentieth, he's fighting Aldo. 443 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: All right, we moved Salt Lake City. Yeah, we moved 444 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: on the list. So how about this one? Bill Algio 445 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: or Algio, I'm not sure you pronounced it exactly. Defeating 446 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: Herbert Burns, second round, one, fifteen out. They called it retirement. 447 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: I had seen a guy previously refuse to get up. 448 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: I was actually at the fight. It was when Kimbo's 449 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: Life fought James Thompson. Matt Sarah has a little brother 450 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: named Nick Sarah. Nick Sarah was getting leg kicked or 451 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: something and just refused. He was sitting on the ground. 452 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: Tells him to get up, and he just refused, so 453 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: they waved it. This was not that he apparently had 454 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: injured his knee. But BC, I tell you what I 455 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: love about Bill Algo. I love guys who get really 456 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: badly threatened. That triangle that Herbert Burns had would have 457 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: finished ninety nine other percent of featherweights. Algo stuck it 458 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: out and then goes back into the mouth of the 459 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: lion to fight him that way. I gotta tell you. 460 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 2: Love the guts, love it on Bill Algio, there were 461 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: a lot of balls on this card. Maybe it was 462 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: the crowd spurning people on. We saw that amazing Chanelle 463 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: got Summerdarvik fight Subadarji Sembadarji almost nailed it. It carried 464 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: over into this one big balls Algo got it done. 465 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 2: But like when this fight fell apart and then it 466 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: was over, it was kind of shocking. It was kind 467 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 2: of like, oh shit, it's over. What do you mean 468 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 2: the implosion? Oh yeah, the always not going to get 469 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 2: up you know, of course, an injury in the end, 470 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: and no one's going to question the heart of a 471 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: Burn's brother. I mean, you know, Gilbert's an absolute savage 472 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 2: and it has probably carried out through around in his family. 473 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: But you get that picture of Gilbert carrying his brother 474 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: and it kind of went in that direction. I'm not 475 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: saying it was a million dollar baby like in terms 476 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: of how the plot just fell apart and went there 477 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: down that road to like I didn't ask to be here, 478 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 2: Why am I here? But it kind of felt like. 479 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: In this fight, you you didn't come with us to 480 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: Extreme Coutur, so it was me. I wasn't asked, well, 481 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: we thought you were working. I mean, you know, like 482 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of I got a lot of 483 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: writing to do, unlike you scrubs. So like, okay, So 484 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: we went to Extreme Katur when Bas he had to 485 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: do some writing, and we saw Bill there actually, and 486 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 1: I wonder if he's trying to make a name for 487 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: himself and fought that way a little bit, right because 488 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: I remember Eric Nixon taking me around and you know, 489 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: introduced me to a bunch of people. And Bill was very, 490 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: very nice, but he was like, I just don't know 491 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: the names of a lot of media guys, and not 492 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: that he's trying to press the media per se, but 493 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: I get the sense with this win and this sort 494 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: of like this the swag that he's got. Do you 495 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: think he fought him this way as a way to 496 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: stand out, because he could have fought him sticking and 497 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: moving and getting away and playing prevent defense. 498 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: Dude, he went right into the buzz saw instead. Probably did. 499 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you have to do that to make 500 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: that noise. If you're not the kind that's going to 501 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: make the noise with the mouth sort of artificially to 502 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 2: get attention to your side. Sometimes you need a breakthrough 503 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: performance like that. Look at work. The timing was perfect. 504 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: We've seen him against billy Q, right, didn't they? 505 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: So they were supposed to have the Battle of the Billies. 506 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: In fact, billy Q tweeted me, didn't they already fight? 507 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: Or no? I don't think so let me double chat 508 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: that I thought. 509 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: I thought billy Q has a win over. I could 510 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 2: be completely making it up, Luke. I sometimes have Yeah, 511 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 2: you're making it up. I am making You're making it up. 512 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: He's got losses to Hikardo Homosh, to Ricardo Lamis, to 513 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: Brendan Locknan on the Contender series. This is who the 514 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: who got beat? Oh yeah, Brenda locked and beat him. 515 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: And then realized the connection that those the same guys. 516 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Then Jared Gordon in the regional scene and Shane Burgos 517 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: on the regional scene. Actually, so there's a bunch of 518 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: guys you can actually have rematches with him there and 519 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: it's some some some kind of validation I suppose for 520 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: Brendan locked In. 521 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 2: Is Randy Coutur still connected at any form with the extreme. 522 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he is. In fact, I asked Eric Nixon about it. 523 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: He said that when Randy's in town, he's there almost 524 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: every day now. 525 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 2: But like financially in business wise, is he canna? 526 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, Yeah, I think so so. So anyway, 527 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make here is this is 528 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: a really nice win for Bill Alfio, very impressive. We 529 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: know he's a blackballt jiu jitsu, so we could kind 530 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: of see it coming. But you know, the guys he'd 531 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: beaten before, we see sport Spike Carlisle, the best TV 532 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: fighter there is. But you know, absolutely, you know, if 533 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: you're big into conspiracy theories, you're that's. 534 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: The fight I'm thinking of. I swapped Billy Q in 535 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 2: there because Billy Q also fought Spike Carlisle. But you're 536 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: saying Bill al Jo fought Yeah, that's the. 537 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: Fun of him yet. And then the last thing is 538 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: Joe Anderson Britto, which is a nice win but doesn't 539 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: tell you a whole lot. Herbert Burns, by the way, 540 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: what do you wanna say about Herbert Burns at this point? 541 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: So he's sitting at thirty four years of age, this 542 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: might be an other acl tair. He's lost two in 543 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: a row, one to Dad the Pinata went to this one. 544 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: He was giving the Algo the business, or at least 545 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: a look like he was, but Algo never waivered. Prior 546 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: to this, he had beaten Evan Dunham, your favorite, Nate Landweir, 547 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: and then Derreck Minner. He's got some good wins too, but. 548 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 2: He's kind of entrenched the loan territory right now a 549 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah, you know, Diego Lama Lima has been 550 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 2: there too, right, you know, you're sort of the brother 551 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: of the the real fighter who's a little bit more 552 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 2: ahead and famous. The odds you can Taiko, Luke. We 553 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: can go on and on, but tough loss. Tough? 554 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Was it a damaging loss beyond the phone? No, I 555 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: don't know how damaged. Well, beyond what happened to his knee. 556 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't see that it bumped his stock down. But 557 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: it does make you wonder, like, Okay, at thirty four 558 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: years of age now facing a potentially devastating knee injury, 559 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: what is even really possible at this point? That's sort 560 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: of the issue versus like, do I think he can 561 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: beat good fighters? Yes, if he's healthy, I very much 562 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 1: think he can be good fighters. I just don't know 563 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: what's time is not on his side. It's basically what 564 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm trying to make. 565 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Who in your combination with your brother, which one of 566 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: you is the Marty Janetti? Like, which one of you 567 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: is the Dan Miller to the Jim Miller. 568 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: So growing up I was definitely the Dan to the gym. 569 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: My brother was. You know, I did, I did well 570 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: on like standardized tests. 571 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 2: But I had him with women and he's not. But 572 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: at the tables have turn now you are Valentina and 573 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 2: he's he's hell pantastic. 574 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 1: Switched a little bit. Take that brother, but he definitely 575 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: in high school he was definitely the man I was not. 576 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: But in an athletic censor, a debate team sense. 577 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: In a debate team sense. 578 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm look, it's gotten you brothers very far in life. 579 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother was. My mother did really, really well. 580 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 2: And you know, as you always say to me, when 581 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: I ever attempt to throw stones at the glasshouse, that 582 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: was your fraternity. Where were you during this time? BC? 583 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: Dropping out working at the old Folks Home? Okay, remember 584 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: that time I found that bag of purple haze weed 585 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: and the drain at the old folks Home. Damn right, 586 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 2: Yes I did that's. 587 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: Awesome, all right. How about this one? This one opened 588 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: the car. I don't know if you saw it or not, 589 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: bec I had my eye on this one because I 590 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: been following Emily Ducatti's career for a while. She took 591 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: on Jessica Penny and she wins twenty nine, twenty eight 592 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: and two of the Juges scorecards thirty twenty seven boys. 593 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: She chewed Jessica Penny's leg two pieces. This was her 594 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: UFC debut for Ducatti. 595 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 2: How technical, She's very Emily, very technically stuck to her 596 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: game plan Penney who still got a little bit left 597 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: in the tank and was trying to bring it out 598 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 2: in certain moments. I really like the game plan. Doesn't 599 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: seem to be a lot of finishing power there. Luke 600 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: more more of a slick boxer, but in terms of 601 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 2: her actual boxing head movement, the angles and stuff, she 602 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 2: knows what she's doing there. This was an impressive win 603 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: to sort of get her feet wet here. Now, obviously 604 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: you're gonna climb the ladder at straweight, You're gonna be 605 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 2: fighting good fighters time after time. But I got to 606 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: give regredit for this for opening fight of the night. 607 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: Debut came in there and handled her business well, never got 608 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: compromised or damaged. I mean it was a good performance. 609 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Oh there's a Bellatour shout out during the broadcast when 610 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 1: she competed, which I didn't hear in real time. I 611 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: only heard on the second time around. 612 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: Sc also mentioned PFL. He brought up Pedis losing his riy. 613 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: That's not surprising because PFL is on ESPN. I didn't 614 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: think Mannik was gonna mention Bellatour, but he did. Now, 615 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: if you look go back to her beltar career, that's 616 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: when I began to take notice of her. She fought 617 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: Elama Lee McFarlane when Elama Lay was kind of ahead 618 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: of the pack and she was not. 619 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: For the inaugural featherweight time she has she has two losses. 620 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: She has two losses to Elama Lee McFarlane and then 621 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 1: Vita or Tega. She got bounced on the promotion. After that, 622 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: she lost three in a row in Belatur and then 623 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: she went on the regional scene, then kind of rebounded 624 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,239 Speaker 1: a little bit and Invicta and then got to win 625 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: over Juliana Lima in her last excuse me, and then 626 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: prior to the actually subsequent to that, Danielle Taylor. That 627 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: was that insane viral knockout where she hit her with 628 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: the punch frozer and then head kifter or was it 629 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: head kipter frozer than punched her, whichever one it was. 630 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: It was this incredible sequence actually, and then she beat 631 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: Alicia as Appatella, who was the straweight champion for them. 632 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: I think she even went down to anamay, I'm I 633 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: can't keep up with a victor. 634 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: You can't. 635 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: This was her UFC debut. I wasn't sure how she 636 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: was gonna look. She is massively improved, Yes, from her 637 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: bellatour days. 638 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean her boxing is as good as anyone. 639 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: She was slipping punches, I don't. 640 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if that means that she's gonna climb 641 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: this letter and get a bunch of whin She's gonna try, 642 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: But in terms of it's just her technique and foundational element. 643 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: She's a very good boxer, and you don't see that 644 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: a lot, you know, in that. 645 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: Level for Justsica Penny a bit of a weird spot. 646 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: She was a standout prior to the UFC, really going 647 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: all in on getting the women in there. But she 648 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: lost four years of her career to like a Usada 649 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: in an injury issue. She's now thirty nine years of age, 650 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: and she had now prior to this BC. This is 651 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: the funny part about it. She had one two prior 652 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: to this. She beat Lubita Go Dinez okay, and then 653 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: she arm barred carolynicolple Kavit in August of twenty twenty one, 654 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 1: which got her a Performance of the Night bonus. But 655 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: you're losing to someone who made their UFC debut and 656 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't really close. She got chewed up. 657 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: So what do you do Caroline a rematch? 658 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what you do with justicap Penny again. 659 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: I think back in the day when she was beating 660 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: an Invicta, when she was beating you know, the Lisa 661 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Elliss of the world back in twenty twelve, dud. 662 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: She made her pro debut in fucking two thousand and six. 663 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 2: When did she beat consecutively to get the title shot 664 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: against Juanna? 665 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: She beat She lost to Michelle Waterson and Invicta, and 666 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: then she beat Nick Dahlia Rivera Klanic. I don't know 667 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: how to say her name. Then she went onto the 668 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighter. I don't know how she did on that one. 669 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: But then then the finale she beat Random Marcos and 670 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: then she got a title shot right after that, and. 671 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: That was curly. And I don't mean to disparage her. 672 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,719 Speaker 2: I'm just saying like she didn't have the breakthrough when 673 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: you would have needed. That was the third title fight, and. 674 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: She had a rush back to backstretch because she had 675 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: to fight Yohanna and then she had to fight Androge 676 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: and Androge Tkoter. That was that one. Ann and I 677 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: car with this being rock hole ye and so you're like, okay, 678 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: we lost to those two. But then she lost to 679 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Taylor, who Dukati just knocked out not too long ago. 680 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: And so the point I'm trying to make is I go, 681 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: after she lost to that, I was like, oh, well 682 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: that's a clear downgrade from Androge. I don't think Daniel 683 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: Taylor's even in the UFC anymore. And then she lost 684 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: four years, but then she came back to beat Godnez 685 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: and Kilva Keevich. There obviously still has some life left 686 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: in her, but I think getting back to a title 687 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: picture is probably not in the cards. No, probably not 688 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: in the cards. But for Dukati, this was great a 689 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: really great win. Any honorable mentions you want to give, 690 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 1: You want to talk about the leach real quick? 691 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, that's the type of comeback when 692 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 2: you would want to see him after the destructive nature. 693 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 2: I mean it was it was beyond one side and 694 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 2: against ham Zutchermiam. I mean he got picked up and 695 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 2: right slammed right from the cage and taunted to see 696 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: him come back and fight that. I don't want to 697 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: say that technical for a guy that that powerful. Instruct Busier, Yeah, 698 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: he was. He mixed in some craft to set it 699 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: up and then once it was time to go, he'll 700 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: get you out of there. He'll get you the hell 701 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: out of there. 702 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: You think about Selakovas, I'm not going to say he's gimmicky, 703 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: but his spinning attacks didn't work. And when they didn't work, 704 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: what was the best shot he landed outside of it? 705 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: Not a whole lot, not a whole lot of some stuff. 706 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: But you had a much more conventional game And I 707 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: even talked about this on my postfight show. If you 708 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: look at the distribution of where he targeted the leech, 709 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: it was basically thirty percent on the head, body and leg. Now, 710 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: of course you don't need to do that. That's not 711 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: like the right way versus the wrong way, but going 712 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: against a guy who's got him a sort of a 713 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: weird skill set, and you need to bring all of 714 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: your tools to bear. The fact that he targeted that 715 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: evenly tells you he was trying to use all of 716 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: his weapons in a smart and complete way. It appreciated 717 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: that from him. 718 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: It readjusted our understanding of what his stealing could be. 719 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: You thought coming in he may have been closer to it. Luke, Right, Yeah, 720 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: that's right. 721 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: Last, but not at least I'm gonna give a shout 722 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: out to Dustin Jacoby. Dude, how about this fucking guy. 723 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: So I covered his career when he was in Glory. 724 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: He actually fought Paeda back in the day, and you know, 725 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: his first UFC run did not go well. He got 726 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: beat by Clifford Starks. Was because of a big wrestler. 727 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: He got beat by Chris Comosi that might even be 728 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: like teammates at this point. Then he went on to 729 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: like you know, some of the smaller shows, lost to 730 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: David Branch, fought on World Series of Fighting, one was 731 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: in Bellator, lost two times in Beltor to Muhammed Lawal 732 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: and John Stalter. This was back in twenty fourteen or so, 733 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: and then took some time away and was doing kickboxing 734 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: whatever from twenty fifteen on. Goes back to MMA in 735 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty in the Contender Series fights Ty Flores wins. 736 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: Here his wins since then Justin Ledett, Maxi, and Grishin. 737 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: He had the no contest or just the draw against Lava. 738 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: Then he has a TK over Darren Stewart, he beat 739 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: John Allen, he beat Michael Electric or if you say 740 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: his name, and now he viciously knocks out although he 741 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: kind of walked away to sell it the fight over 742 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: Dotton Jung seven. See how many wins in a row 743 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: in UFC, So if you count Contender series one, two, three, four, five, 744 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: six seven wins, now one draw guys on his way. 745 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 2: He is on his way. And I don't mean to 746 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 2: derail what you're saying about Jacoby here, but do you 747 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: think they should count Contender series wins. 748 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: It's a pro. It's a pro they don't count it. 749 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: Currently under your UFC ledger in the same way whereas 750 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: tough wins or exhibitions that they don't count. Dana White 751 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: Contender Series wins are the pro actual wins, but they 752 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: don't count under your UFC ledger. It's like it's a 753 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 2: separate league. 754 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: That's weird because it's a pro contest. 755 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to talk to Dana about this. 756 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: If they counted as a separate promotion, then that would 757 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: be why. But in any case, who are three? Look 758 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: at this whole card? 759 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is the future of extra 760 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: credit where you end with Luke's three stars. But who 761 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 2: gets your three stars for this whole card? For the 762 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: ones we just talked about, No, for the whole card 763 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: in general? Who who is the most impressive? Not necessarily 764 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 2: in terms of steaks, but just in terms of impressive Schnell. 765 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Schnell gets gets a Starkay Murphy, Oh wow, Simone, those 766 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: are my three? What about you? 767 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's here's the. 768 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: List right here. 769 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 2: Okay, it's it's this is going to be pretty easy here, 770 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: Amanda Lemos, Schnell. 771 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: I agree with a lot of that good wins. Ricky 772 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: Simone to me, the big standout from the prelim card. 773 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: He had the biggest win of everyone on the prelim card, 774 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: very very very high level win for him, all Right, 775 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: that is it. For extra credit, that's Brian Campbell. I'm 776 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: luked on. 777 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm not normally hearing this. 778 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he may not be here ever again, who's to say. 779 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: But if you want more of this thumbs up on 780 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: the video hit subscribe Morning Combat at gmail dot com 781 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: to reach the producers. You guys know the whole thing, 782 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: and that is it. We'll be back next week when 783 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: we react to the following weekend's fights, and until then 784 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: is what it's all about.