WEBVTT - CLUMP ALERT (with Zack Fox) 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:05.160 Hello, folks. This is Lyle. One of my big priorities 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:09.360 for twenty twenty two is to get more guests on 0:00:09.400 --> 0:00:12.400 this podcast. It is a lot of fun for me 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:17.800 to have new perspectives and new people coming on here 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:24.640 to sort of bat back and forth the inquiries and 0:00:24.840 --> 0:00:29.720 ideas of the callers. And I am very happy to 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:34.920 have my first guest of twenty twenty two be rapper 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:40.839 and comedian Zach Fox. Zach has done work with Thundercat 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.919 Flying Lotus, he was a writer on the fifth season 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:49.040 of The Eric Andre Show, and he's just an overall 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:54.640 great dude. And we had a really nice three and 0:00:54.680 --> 0:00:56.880 a half. We streamed for about three and a half hours, 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.240 but I've cut it down in this podcast to something 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.600 like something like two hours and forty minutes, and it 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.200 was just a really great time and I'm happy to 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:11.120 be trying new things on this pod. Zach and I 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:14.920 spend the first like twenty five minutes of this podcast 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.840 just kind of shooting the ship between each other, and 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.600 I know that that's not typically how this podcast goes, 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:26.039 so if you do wish to skip straight to the 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:30.000 phone calls, that starts at about twenty six minutes and 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:34.959 twenty ish seconds in. All right, great, let's get into it. 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:40.160 Zach Fox Therapy, Gecko, Anonymous strangers from the Internet. It's 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:40.760 a fun one. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.039 Never Get goes on the line taking your phone calls 0:01:45.120 --> 0:01:45.640 every night. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:55.000 Never get goes to teaching you to in your life expert. 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:02.440 How you doing, I'm good? How are you? 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:06.560 I'm good? How How are you feeling in the suit? 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:17.360 Oddly like happier? 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:18.040 Really? 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:18.680 Yeah? 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.200 But I really appreciate that you took the time to 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.400 think about your answers making because I could tell you 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:24.560 wanted to tell the truth. 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.040 Yeah. I don't want to bullshit you and be like, oh. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:30.120 Yeah great, yeah yeah, because this is a step. Yeah, 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.120 this is you're putting a suit on, You're taking a step. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.080 Yeah yeah, it's a choice. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.320 Yeah, So I'm not going to bullshit you. 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.200 Feel good? You said you feel happier? You could you 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.200 peg that to anything? Like, could you you know? Is there? 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:50.600 I think I think everybody. I think everybody's a little 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.600 bit tired being themselves. All yeah, it is. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:55.360 It's exhausting. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.520 It's really exhausting. Wake up and you're like, damn nigga, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:00.240 me and. 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:06.240 Monday me again, me, Monday me Tuesdays. 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.639 Every day and everybody's like, be yourself, be yourself, Like, okay, but. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:14.720 It's nice to be able to take a break. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:15.880 You need breaks. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:21.440 I strongly believe that what is a distance makes the 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:24.640 heart grow fonder. That can apply to yourself for sure. 0:03:24.800 --> 0:03:27.320 Right you take a break, you you dress up as 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:30.200 a character, and then you always gotta go back home. 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:31.720 You gotta go back home, and then you when you 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.280 come back into yourself, you appreciate yourself a little bit more. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.600 Damn, I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, you know. Yeah, then 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.440 there's people who want to take advantage of that, you 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.119 know that metaverse ship? 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:43.920 Are you not into the metaverse? 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.120 I'm not into Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, you know, I'm into 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:52.160 the metaverse the idea, but Mark Zuckerberg, fuck off? 0:03:52.840 --> 0:04:01.880 Is there a a being, a character, a particular identity? Mewtwo? Yeah, 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.080 be mewtwo sounds like a great responsibility. 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.880 Like that's that's just even as a kid, I was like, 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.680 I want to I want to do that. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.600 Would you what do you? How do you feel being 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.600 mew Would you be MW two? If in order to 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.159 be mwtwo you had to grind it, you had to 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.679 grind out like a solemn aunt of time as mew. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:25.880 First, like, how how long are we talking? Like a lifetime? 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:26.279 Like a. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:29.840 I'm thinking you have to put it. You have to 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:31.479 put in a solid summer of being Meal. 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:35.919 That's alwid some Yeah, yeah, there's nothing wrong with being mew. Yeah, 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.240 it's just I know what I want on the other 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.760 side of that. Yeah, so yeah, that's summer school. That's fine. 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:43.960 What would you do with that power? 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.560 With mewtwo power? Yeah, it's not even that I necessarily 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:50.960 want the power, just esthetically speaking, Mew two got it? 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:51.920 Mm hmm. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:53.440 Do you want to look like that? 0:04:53.680 --> 0:05:00.359 Yeah, the like the the mole, lavender skin worn in 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:08.080 a tank, fat ass, big tail, m quite gecko ish 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:09.159 fingers a little. 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.520 He does have quite geckos because they have a little 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.200 the round at the top. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:15.440 He's pretty reptilian, he is he is? 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:17.720 You mentioned that, you mentioned that you need too as 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:18.839 a fat ass. 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:19.760 Yeah. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.560 Is there a pokemon in particular that you think commands 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:29.120 the most sexual power jinx mm hmm yeah, yeah, there's 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:30.440 no next question. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.080 That's it. I mean, do you. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.159 I'm trying to think let me let. 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:41.120 Me back up, because I just said that, knee jerk. 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:43.320 Yeah, you can take your you can take something. I'll 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:44.320 think of my answer. 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.240 And it's not like literal sex appeal because that's what 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.359 I was going very one to one with and I 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:02.960 feel like that was a hack answer. So that's why 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:07.960 I'm like, who has just sex feel to anything, just 0:06:08.000 --> 0:06:22.080 complete full package saying relax, relax. 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:24.280 Vaporon is a good answer. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.960 Vaporion is a very solid answer. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.240 Oh, Onyx is a good answer too, because onx is 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:31.280 onyx is ribbed. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:36.800 That's true for extra pleasure. Onyx is ribbed. Onix is ribbed. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:44.600 I think, uh, I think vaporion is is is solid. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.800 I feel like that might be up there that and 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:56.760 what's the thing? Yeah article no, maybe big blue, long 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:03.760 flowing very like article. Articuno has a Tilda Swinton kind 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:07.640 of energy too, very like like I could tell Articuno 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:12.360 is like Australian actress level sexy. It's like a weird 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:15.080 it's like a Uma Thurman sexy, but it's like you 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:20.800 respect it royal, the royal blues and the long sparkle flowies. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.640 I'm trying to think of. There's this like it's like 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:29.240 a Hawaiian dancer Pokemon that it makes you fall asleep 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.760 and smash bros. I don't I don't know the name. 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.480 You know what I'm talking about. It's chatting what I'm 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:35.480 what I'm talking about? 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:42.120 Mm hmm. All they're saying, turn turns act. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.640 We good chat? How's the audio sounds? 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.120 How's that now? Is this good? 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:52.600 Soon? Made up a good point that diggle it could 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:53.960 be a like a dildo esque. 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.520 That's true. That's pretty one to one though. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:08:00.960 People are mentioning jiggily Puff. I was thinking about gigglely Puff. 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.720 I don't know jiggly Puff. As far as sex appeal, 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:06.920 shaking people go to sleep, I'm gonna stay far away 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:07.240 from that. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:09.600 Mm hmm. 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:17.040 Not today, not today. That is not appeal. The funk 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.200 out of here, jiglie Puff. Mm hmm. 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:26.520 Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely a problematic Pokemon problematic problematic. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.480 Jigglypuff was not trying to buy NBC. 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:39.800 A choke also could see as problematic. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.240 I think you just need to go a step up 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:43.760 and say. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:46.680 My champ, my champ, my champ is the greater. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.640 Yeah, four arms, so. 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:52.400 That's kind of hot, actually. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:58.160 Definitely hotter. I'm taking my champ. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:00.520 You're taking a champ article. 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:05.440 No, Yeah, I'm a Champ. Have you ever seen Baby Boy? 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:06.040 No? 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:10.640 What is that? It's a it's a black film from 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:15.079 the nineties, star of Tyres yeah Snoop Dogg. Yeah, ving Rams. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:19.280 I'm forgetting a couple of other names, but ving Rams 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.800 in that movie gives me my Champ vibes. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.880 And did what just when? When do you first see 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.160 this movie Baby Boy? Yeah? 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:30.840 Oh in the nineties? 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:31.440 In the nineties. 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:34.880 Yeah, I mean they played it on be et like 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.680 every day, so was it was? 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.800 Was his character sort of like part of of like 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:40.240 a sexual awakening. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:41.800 For uh. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.280 Maybe, okay, maybe. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:54.720 I don't know. Ving Rams good looking dude. Yeah, he's aging, 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:56.880 but good looking dude. You know he plays like this 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:59.080 like aging kind of like, you know, he just got 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.200 a jail, used to bang, used to like do some shit, 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.600 but now he's dating Tyrese's mom. 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.240 There's something attractive about a man who's lived a life. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.840 He did it, He did all this stuff in Tyrese, 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:13.040 he's like the little pool bud ass boy. He's trying 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:16.600 to bang look tough in the streets and he's like, look, man, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.960 I did everything, and I'll choke you out. There's a 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:21.720 scene where he's choking him out and he kisses him 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:25.760 on the forehead because they're fighting, and you're like. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:27.599 You confuse your like, how does this guy feel about me? 0:10:27.640 --> 0:10:28.280 Does he want to hurt me? 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.400 Or does he love me exactly? And he came from prison, 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:35.360 so you don't know, so they attractive about mystery. I 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:37.520 saw someone say they saw me driving on the highway 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:38.000 one time. 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:39.640 Really, yeah. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:41.440 They did? 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.200 They mention what highway? No, that's pretty interesting. But we're 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:46.440 able to like spot you. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.199 Whenever someone says something like that, I never think they're lying. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:56.480 Do you feel like a lot of people look like you? Yeah? Yeah, 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.280 so I could have theoretically just been another guy like you. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:03.720 Maybe I don't know. I feel like anytime somebody see 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.920 a light skin do with a mustache, they like is that? 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:10.040 Because I'll get like mentioned on Twitter and they're like 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.600 are you in Quebec right now? And I'm like, why 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:20.840 the fuck would I be in Quebec? And yeah, I 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.840 don't know. I don't know, but I always believe when 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.720 someone's like I saw you on the highway, I'm like, yep, 0:11:26.040 --> 0:11:26.360 why not? 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:27.960 Why not just say yep? That's where I would just 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.319 to make them feel good good? You know, why a 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:32.079 cross your dream. 0:11:32.080 --> 0:11:35.120 Because also, I've always wanted to see a celebrity or 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.400 somebody on the highway. I don't even care who it is. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.640 I don't even see my friends on the highway, and 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:42.160 we all live in the same city. I'm never seeing 0:11:43.200 --> 0:11:44.320 somebody on the highway. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.760 Have you well, I'm not. I'm not looking into other 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:47.520 people's cars. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:51.080 Typically, Oh I'm nosy, you are, Yeah, I'm so nosy. 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:58.000 I will I will, I will die. If my girlfriend 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:04.240 said I think that that is it could be the 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:09.440 fucking the dude who sold me hennessy at the liquor store. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:10.920 She's like, Oh, that's that guy. I will turn my 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:12.199 head in the car on the highway. 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.720 Let me ask you something. Do you think that because 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.080 you are nosy and looking at other people's cars, that 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:22.480 also translates into you being more anxious that other people 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:23.880 are looking at you. 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:25.520 No, because I want people to look at me while 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.800 I'm driving. Really, I might have so much fun while 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:34.640 I'm driving. I'm in a metal box listening the fucking Maxwell. 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:41.320 I'm always cranking it, crankingt R and B. I like 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.480 to imagine everybody's looking at me while I'm driving. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.800 Really, because I feel like the when you're like alone 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.360 and you're like singing along to music. I know, well, 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.959 just me personally, that's a time when I don't want anyone, 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:55.040 Like there's something more embarrassing than like for me. If 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.640 I'm singing along to a song or something like that 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.160 and then I notice I'm not alone and other people 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.080 are watching. 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.760 That's all I want, really, that's all I want. All 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.360 I want is for someone to be like, is that 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:10.240 motherfucker singing Kirk Franklin right now? And then they join in, yeah, yeah, 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:11.679 and we're just at a red light and we have 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:16.040 this moment together, like, yeah, that that happened recently, somebody 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.960 was listening to uh my music wasn't crank, but my 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:21.920 window was down and the car next to me pulled 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.600 up and he was listening to music soul Child, and 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.959 he was listening to it really loud, and I looked 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:31.120 over at him and I just did one of these 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.880 I just went, mmm, you know that point? Yeah yeah, 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:37.880 and he went yell, just all ahead yet like it 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:39.320 was an old black guy had a f a door on, 0:13:39.440 --> 0:13:40.079 look like he was. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.280 Just you know, that's a beautiful moment with a stranger. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.960 It is beautiful. It's beautiful. Because you're you know, you 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.080 two will never see each other again, and y'all just 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:53.680 connected over a couple of notes of a song. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:54.080 Yeah? 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:54.360 Yeah. 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:57.480 Did it make you feel was there any type of 0:13:57.559 --> 0:14:00.800 like validation in there of like you felt like your 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:09.000 your your music taste was being validated, your human experience was. 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:13.040 Zeing validated more like human experience? Yeah? Yeah, I think 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:18.160 it's that, Yeah, because like you know, you just we're 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.440 all just in these cars. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:25.120 Yeah. Just isn't it Hey, isn't it crazy that? I mean, 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:26.680 I know that this happens all the time with our 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.960 car crashes, but most of the time we have like 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.480 all these cars and they don't touch each other. Yeah 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:33.480 they should they like there should be Like I know 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.840 that there are car accidents all the time. 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:35.840 There should be car. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:40.160 Accidents every minute, every minute. How are all these cars 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:42.440 piled up not touching each other? 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:44.920 You know what's so funny about that statement is that 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.880 I was driving on the way here from from mid 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.120 City and I'm going, I'm coming down here, We're in 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:58.000 what where do we in? Marina? And I'm driving here 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:02.680 and I go in my head, how do niggas be 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:06.120 getting a car accidents? Just don't hit a car. I 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.160 literally I said that in my brain to myself. Yeah, 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.840 So it's just funny that we just had the opposite 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:12.600 kind of feeling. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.240 You said how people had to oh you you were? 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:15.520 You were. 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.440 I'm like, how do you get in an accident? 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.040 I feel like it's so easy to die in your 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.800 car and get into an accident. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:28.480 And I know statistically it is, Yeah, but every time 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.240 I get behind the wheel and I go out and 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.360 do a couple of errands and I get back home, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:37.320 I'm like, no, part of that felt like I was 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:41.000 about to Really, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.480 I'm over confident in my driving skills. Maybe i'd live 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.200 in a you know, safe enough area where it's not 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:51.040 that crazy, because Okay, if. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:55.440 You're during during the day, you're sitting at your in 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.280 your house, you're like watching TV, you're at your desk, whatever, 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.160 and then you get into a box and you drive 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:05.440 as fast as you can, and then and then on 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.800 a two lane road there's another person also as fast 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.720 as you can. Like, if there's any point in your 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:15.200 when you're sitting around at home and you're not doing anything, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:19.080 there's like five there's less than one percent chance that 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:20.640 you want you'll die, and then when you get into 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:26.400 your car, the chance that you'll die ninety It goes dramatic, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.360 goes from really nothing like maybe you could have a 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.680 brain aneurysm, maybe you have a heart attack, and then 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.920 and then it goes to the top. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:39.200 Because because what is America death is Like number one 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:46.120 is heart disease. Yeah, I think is number two? Car accident, 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.240 car accidents, someone like, I. 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.640 Feel like cancer is in there. Cancer is in there. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.840 Someone someone said number two is depression. 0:16:53.240 --> 0:16:53.640 Got it? 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:54.760 People killing themselves? 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:55.240 Got it? 0:16:55.760 --> 0:17:01.240 Damn damn nah, not that many people killing themselves. Suicide 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:07.159 is not it is if heart disease is Michael Jordan, 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.800 who is the Scottie Pippen of killing Americans? That's what 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.280 I'm I don't think that is suicide. 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.119 It's gotta be cancer. Oh, some people said opiate's. 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:21.920 Second ist respiratory issues, obesity. 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.160 Cod covid' is getting up there. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.240 Suicide is a top ten cause of death in America, 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:28.280 especially amongst teenagers. I think for teens it's two. 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.160 Fuck for number for one for I feel I don't 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:33.840 know what one is for teens, but I have to 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.080 assume it's cars, you know, what's fuck? Is it fucking crazy? 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.280 That's like like when I was sixteen, I was really 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:40.840 excited to get my license, and I was like so 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.320 glad that driving age was sixteen. Now that I'm an 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.800 older adult, sixteen year olds should not be allowed to 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:50.119 fucking not at all, not at all, not at all. Yeah, 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.919 And when I was sixteen, I would like, you were 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.760 fucking up. No, No, I I would like, I would 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.360 like hit curves, I would get high and I would 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.560 drive and shit like should not have. 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.280 Fellow, I didn't start to see that's it. I think 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.480 that's why I'm such a like why I have such 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:11.840 a infantile look or like perspective on driving because I 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:13.280 didn't start driving until way later. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.439 Really, yeah, how old are you? 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.440 Because I was like we were poor out, like yeah, 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.920 even if I went and got my license, who car 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.960 the am I going to drive? Like it's a single 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:26.040 mother household. She's not. She didn't have a car, you 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:27.680 know what I'm saying. So I didn't start driving til 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:33.000 like like I would kind of drive in my mid twenties, 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.200 like I would you know, somebody like gave me the car, 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:37.960 Like all right, I'll go get some groceries or something 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.560 or like DD for people even though I don't have 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.200 a license. But then like late twenties, I was like, 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:44.920 all right, I'll go ahead and start driving. 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:45.120 Now. 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.400 Maybe that's why. 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.920 And I've just been blown away because I'm thirty one 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.919 now and every time I hop in the car, I'm like, 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:57.960 this is so fun. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.240 Really every time. That's nice that you still have that, 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.480 like I feel like a twelve year old. That's not 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:07.080 because when I it's nice that you still have that excitement. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.840 Because when I was sixteen, when I was fourteen or fifty, 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.280 like right before I got my license, I wanted nothing more. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.399 I was, you know that like I'll be happy when blank. 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.840 That was my I'll be happy when I can drive you. 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:24.040 And now now I'm gonna and now I can drive, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.880 and I the amount of happiness that I get from 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.159 being able to drive, it's like there's nothing. I never 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.960 I don't think about it. It's just another it's just has 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.520 it's gone through being this thing a bump of serotonin, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.520 No bump of serotonin. It's gone from this thing that 0:19:35.560 --> 0:19:37.200 has been like the ultimate goal of mine. 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:38.040 Too. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:42.760 Then this is another fucking part of my dad. 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:47.120 M there's something to be said about that. I feel 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.080 like everybody's always like, you know, you got it. If 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.680 there's something you want to do in life, do it 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:57.080 right now, you know what I mean? And I feel 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:58.560 like it should be like, if there's something you want 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:01.280 to do in life, do it right now out unless 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:02.000 you're sixteen. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.520 So that's a good caveat because. 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:12.120 First off, you're like, you're not gonna remember that well 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:16.240 and you're gonna waste all this like sixteen year old serotonin, 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.200 because it's like, of course, when you're sixteen, you're happy 0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:21.120 to drive, you're gonna be happy to skydive, You're gonna 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:26.000 be happy to do whatever the thing is. No, I'm waiting. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.399 I'm waiting because I want to do what's the movie 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.200 bucket list? Yes, i want to do it when I'm old, 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.080 and I'm just trusting that I won't die on my 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.560 car before I can do it. But I'm trying to 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.080 get that maximum serotonin out of whatever it is. Not 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.040 just like there's only just. 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.840 Wants to press them, butte right, there's only so many 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:52.120 wonderful life experiences available. You don't want to you want 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:54.800 to burn them all at once. Yeah, I feel that. 0:20:54.880 --> 0:20:57.800 Yeah, if you have, I would even say, if you're 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:08.520 a virgin, m keep waiting. Bro fucking gets the curve, 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:14.879 yes of not only the skill of your fucking and 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:17.760 the people you're fucking and the things that you're able 0:21:17.760 --> 0:21:24.680 to do to each other's junk, the curve just spikes. 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:27.399 It just goes up. It just goes up. It just 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:32.280 goes up. It just goes I was just in Colombia. Yeah, 0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:38.720 met a eighty year old documentarian who worked for National 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:44.760 Geographic and PBS. I met him because we were sitting 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.840 at a bar at our hotel. He fell out of 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.359 his chair because his chair was on like some shaky sand, right. 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:52.280 He falls out of his chair and I'm like, this 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.040 eighty year old dude just fell out of his chair. 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:58.879 He's dead. He's got to be dead. This motherfucker hops 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:03.600 back up like tight in the nineties, dusts himself off, 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.080 and he's like, oh, I'm good, I'm chilling, and I'm like, 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:09.359 what's your story. He starts telling me about what he does, 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.520 and he starts telling me about all his lovers, and 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.240 he goes, you know you're not gonna believe me, but 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.120 I'm the only man in this world who's made love 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:23.600 on all seven continents, Antarctica, Antarctica. Said he made love 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:26.760 to a Chilean woman while he was doing a documentary 0:22:27.680 --> 0:22:33.320 and Antarctica for PBS, and he said, his secret is maka. 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.520 What is maka Peruvian macha powder. It's a root from 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:40.600 Peru that grows out there naturally. This story doesn't end 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:43.080 with the he roofeed all these people doesn't. No, No, 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.120 it's just what he It's just what he takes every 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.040 single day. He's been taking it since he was twenty two. 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.680 And I was like, because I'm I'm you know, I'm 0:22:52.680 --> 0:22:58.080 thirty one. My girl's forty. The sex just gets better, 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:05.000 is like he said. It's like like for men and women. 0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:08.040 It just like it raises your sex drive, gives you 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:11.879 more endurance, more energy just in your regular life. You 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.359 know what I'm saying, I gotta I gotta get a 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:16.880 promo code for some Maca bro, get some Maca right, 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.600 start taking it. It's not you know what I'm saying earlier, Like, 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:22.120 it's not like a button you push in tomorrow. It's 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:22.880 not my agress. 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.200 So he's been playing the long macka play the long 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:26.960 Maca game. 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:29.680 Yeah, you play the long game with that ship and 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:33.560 he said, he looked me in my eyes, eighty year 0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.479 old white man Pierre. He said, the best sex I 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.000 started having in my life didn't happen till I was 0:23:40.040 --> 0:23:44.720 in my sixties. Wow. And I said, fucking what. He 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:47.600 was like, I shit you not. He was like, the 0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.119 lovers get better because you about to die. You were 0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.560 about to die when you turn. When you hit sixty, 0:23:53.800 --> 0:23:57.719 the clock starts taking. That's the shot clock. Yep. And 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:01.080 he said, everybody, everybody's like in this club of like, 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:02.879 we about to die, so we about to get it in. 0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.480 I want that. I want that. 0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.880 That would make sense that people are do you feel 0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.359 like people people will then be more down for like 0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:17.800 sort of kinkier types of sex in the same way 0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.439 that everyone's like, I'll try heroin when I'm eighty. 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:23.280 I think kinkier, but I also think just like more 0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.960 connectedness with sex, you know, more more just like. 0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:30.840 Do you think would you predict that the emotional intimacy 0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.359 also increases. 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:35.639 The intimacy and the maturity. I feel like he was 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.639 telling me about how, like, you know, you get older 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:42.040 and old people they'll just be like, like fucking and 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.560 it'll be like a handshake, but it'll be like an 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:48.040 em like they connect him, but then afterwards it'll be 0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:49.919 like now we can both. We're both just going on 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.159 with our lives and it's like a maturity and like 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:58.400 a like you are your own thing. I'm gonna go 0:24:58.480 --> 0:25:03.160 back across the planet. But yeah, still lovers. Yes, yes, yes, 0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:06.000 that's some that's some sick shit. Yeah that's sick. 0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.080 Yeah. Well, guys, I feel like when you're well, when 0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:11.359 you're you know, sixty or seventy or something, you're not 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.160 looking for another person to complete you as much. You're 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:21.080 your own every theo. Both parties are sufficiently independent people 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:27.160 merely looking for for an intimate experience with one another yep, 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.880 but not necessarily trying to depend on each other yep 0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.000 to complete each other's line because. 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.000 They did their journey already. 0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:35.760 Damn. 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:38.000 People be out here fucking like trying to put puzzle 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:39.760 pieces back in their heart and shit. 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.600 I feel like that. I mean, that's the common theme 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.080 that I feel like a lot of people are called 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:47.120 in with is like they feel like they've gotten too 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.840 old to do X, Y and Z, and then you 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.320 and then you always hear of a story of a 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:54.000 guy being like, yeah, my life didn't pick up until 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:58.680 I was sixty seventy eighty, whatever it is you want to 0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.280 show Yellowstone. I keep hearing about it. 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:05.480 That motherfucker didn't start writing until he was in his fifties. Yeah. 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:07.520 Yeah, the guy who the guy who wrote that shows. 0:26:07.880 --> 0:26:08.720 Made Sakari up. 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.160 I don't know, wasn't uh you a squid game? 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:14.800 Yeah? 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:16.520 Yeah, I don't know how old he was, but I 0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:18.479 know that he was like working on that ship for 0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:20.960 a decade, a decade, a decade, and then people are like, oh, 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:22.240 if I'm not doing X by. 0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:25.160 Whatever, twenty, I'm gonna kill myself. 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:30.600 Yeah, that's why they the depression rate of what like 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:38.840 that's that's that's That's a great segue into taking some cars. 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:44.600 Hello Jack, Jack yak Yeah, Jack, Jack yak. 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:48.679 Jack, I'm here with Zach Fox. 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:48.919 Uh. 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:53.280 I heard that you're seeking advice on sugar Mama's. 0:26:56.359 --> 0:26:56.719 Yeah. 0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:59.760 So I'm kind of at a crossroads, a little more 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:01.879 of the lemma, if you will, And I didn't know 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.720 really who else to ask about it. Hate my job, 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.320 not making enough money, and I'm really starting to consider 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:14.479 the sugar baby lifestyle looking for sugar Mama. 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:23.760 Mm hmmm, well how do you how do you feel 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:30.160 about that decision, like, do you feel like that's something 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.560 that would make you happy or do you feel like 0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:38.520 it's just the next logical step and you're running out 0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:40.000 of options. 0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.160 The thing is, I find I find that a lot 0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:48.119 of my unhappiness really just stems from a lack of money. 0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.879 So I think in that regard, I think it would 0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:54.159 make me quite happy. But it's really just the uh, 0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.639 the morality of it, if you will, like the the 0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:01.040 idea of someone paying for you and and taking care 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.520 of you. And you know, I'm a young man. I'd 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.000 like to be, you know, independent if I could, and 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.760 two things for myself. But it's it's getting skinned to 0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:12.879 the point where I'm starting to just let that idea 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:17.119 go and download some of these apps and put myself 0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:17.600 out there. 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:29.080 And now, would you consider a sugar daddy, because I 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.800 I don't know what, I don't know what I feel 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.600 absolutely because I was gonna say, well, because I feel 0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:39.320 like the the market. 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:42.320 For a. 0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:50.040 Like the the sugar mama to male sugar baby, I 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:57.440 feel like it's probably a buyer's market for the sugar mama, 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:01.360 and so it might be a little bit more difficult 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:06.400 to find a sugar mama than a sugar daddy, unless if. 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:08.560 What do you? 0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:08.959 What do you? 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:09.400 What do you? 0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.320 What do you? How would you describe your build? 0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.760 I mean, I'm pretty pretty good shape. I'm twenty three. 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.320 I work out literally every day. I always get some 0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.920 abs in. So I think I'm I think I'm uh, 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.600 you know, at least top top twenty five percent on 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:29.920 the attractiveness scale. I think I have a decent personality 0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:32.080 and uh, you know, I think I I think I 0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:33.480 could talk one of them into it. You know, I 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.360 gotta I got a good h a good sense for words. 0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.120 So I'm optimistic. There's there's a couple of different apps. 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:44.440 There's a seeking Arrangements Cougar, a couple other ones. 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:50.800 I than nine, I'm fully on board. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:55.040 Yeah what you uh, you guys are on board. You 0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.960 don't think it's a little a little a weak move. 0:29:57.880 --> 0:29:58.440 On my part. 0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:02.040 I mean, and I and I get what you were 0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:05.760 saying earlier about you know, the independence and and all 0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:09.120 that stuff, but you know, we're in We're just in 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:13.880 different times, man, We're in completely different times where you know, 0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:18.640 those those dynamics are out the fucking window. The only 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.040 place in a few years and a few couple decades. 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:23.600 The only place you're gonna see that kind of like 0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:32.880 patriarchal shame around not being the independent, strong breadwinner that 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:34.720 your dad told you you're supposed to be. This is 0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:37.640 some madman shit. This is going out the window. And 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:42.760 I think, I think, I think everybody has a right 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:48.320 to enjoy being a sub and or being or being 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.760 as long as it's as long as it's a contract, 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.280 like it's a consent between two people, you should be 0:30:55.360 --> 0:31:00.120 able to say yeah, like okay, I'm this and the 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.959 situation or where this or whatever the levels is as 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:05.600 long as y'all are deciding. So you going through these 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.280 apps is the right it's the right way to do it. 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.640 You're not trying to go find it, you know, in 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.640 the club or something. If you did, that'd be great. 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.440 But you're trying to find it the place where it's at. 0:31:14.520 --> 0:31:17.080 So I don't see the problem, do you what? 0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.160 Yeah, I want I want somewhere where they're already looking, 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:20.800 you know. 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:25.120 Right, And why do you feel is that a thing 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.320 you feel shame about? A sort of like you said, 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.120 you don't want to feel weak. Do you feel a 0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:38.520 shame about being like a a a sub type in 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.040 a in Do you feel shame about being a non 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:44.800 dominant the non dominant in a relationship? 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.200 I mean when you say non dominant, I assume you're 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:54.240 not referring to sexually. But yeah, I do feel a 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:57.480 bit of shame of like a woman paying for all 0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:02.800 my my expenses and not really providing anything to her financially. 0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.960 That that's just never It's just foreign to me, if 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.480 that makes sense. But yeah, I guess I do feel 0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:10.440 a bit ashamed about it. 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:15.120 Where is that what your dynamic was with your with 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:18.160 your mom and dad? Like was your dad like kind 0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:20.720 of like role model, like taking care of the whole, 0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:22.960 like taking care of business kind of guy. So you're 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.280 looking at him like I'm supposed to do that, Like 0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.040 what what is that weakness feeling? 0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:33.760 No, not not really. My dad's more of a more 0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.840 of a mom than a dad. He's a not really 0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.760 that way at all. But it's just something that you know, 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.760 I just see in society and I respect, you know, 0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:45.120 when a man is providing for his wife or for 0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.240 his kids and stuff. Yeah, and I do want to 0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:50.320 have kids and I don't want them to see me 0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:51.160 as a weak man. 0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:52.480 Yeah. 0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:59.400 Yeah, Okay, So if if being a sugar baby. If 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:03.000 you were to take off the table, what sort of 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.640 a path would you like to take to start making 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.800 more money? Are you trying to go back to school? 0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:11.960 Are you trying Is there a job in particular that 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:14.040 you would like to have. 0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.200 I've always wanted to start my own business, but as 0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.280 I as I get older and I just have less time, 0:33:24.400 --> 0:33:27.080 I've struggled to get the money in the time to 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:29.840 really focus on that. And so I kind of have 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:34.080 always had this entrenreneurial spirit and I don't really want 0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:35.920 to give up on that. But at the same time, 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.400 I deliver pizzas right now, and I still live with 0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.240 my mom and I'm twenty three, So it's like it's 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.479 starting to get you know, you know, time is of 0:33:44.520 --> 0:33:46.440 the essence here and starting to feel the pressure. 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.400 Yeah, And I want to stop you right there, man, 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:53.240 because it's literally what we were just talking about that 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.880 everybody has this like everybody has these these clocks, and 0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.520 then they have these norms, you know what I'm saying, 0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:05.440 And then the norms are battling against your clock, and 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:07.040 you're like trying to figure out what you need to do. 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:12.239 Ain't nothing wrong with you delivering pieces and living with 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:16.600 your moms right now, Deliver the fuck out of them 0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.960 pizzas right now. Deliver the shit out of those pieces 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.600 right now, and do it to the best of your 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:27.160 capability and meet people and gain stories that you'll probably 0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:30.799 never ever get again, because delivering pieces you meet more 0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.640 people than a fucking I'm sure like an uber drive, 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.080 you know what I'm saying. And then at the same time, 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.400 if you want to be a sugar you're twenty three. 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.600 If you want to be a sugar baby, do that shit, 0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:44.280 and then double up and start thinking about what business 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.120 you got around because sex work don't make you weak, 0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:51.000 you know what i mean. If anything, that shit probably 0:34:51.040 --> 0:34:54.600 fortifies you so that you know, you forty now you're 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.040 going into your old age, you forty fifty, and you 0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.839 got a better outlook. And say you got a daughter, 0:35:00.120 --> 0:35:02.960 a son, You're not gonna be looking at them like 0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.160 they week or fucking fucking they head up with these 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.799 norms about how you're supposed to move in the world, 0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:11.080 you know what I'm saying, Like you'll have more respect 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.960 for your fellow man, and and yeah, ship might be 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.799 hard and might be awkward at points in time, and 0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:19.959 you might be put yourself in some situations that feel 0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.879 kind of sketchy. But you know you you're a man. 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:28.279 Do you think you're a man? 0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:32.040 Yeah? 0:35:32.040 --> 0:35:33.439 Absolutely, then you're a man. 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:37.200 Yeah. It's not up it's not up to society. It's 0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:40.239 not up to any of your fucking friends. If they're 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:44.520 giving your ship, it's not up to anybody to define you, 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:49.239 to define your timeline on you. You know, I mean, 0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:52.080 it's exactly where we're talking. 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.799 I was. 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:55.279 I don't know if I've talked to them, but I 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:57.680 was doing this stream out. I've been doing this stream 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:02.040 out of my mom's house for a long time. You know, 0:36:02.680 --> 0:36:03.399 there's nothing wrong. 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.919 Well, you know how you know how many motherfuckers wish 0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:13.719 that they had a mom's house to even be at 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.440 so they could be delivering pizzas or working at Best 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.279 Buy or working at I'm all Circuit City don't even 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:23.960 exist no more. But like, you know, working wherever. Like 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:29.640 that's a blessing in itself that your mom is like, yeah, baby, whatever, 0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.880 whatever my son doing, like, it's gonna work out. It's 0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.520 gonna and and you twenty three, bro, go be a sugar, 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.600 be a fucking just sugar it up. Man, do do 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:41.479 whatever you gotta do live life. 0:36:44.120 --> 0:36:47.239 But before yeah, I never really considered that. 0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:50.720 You know, yeah, what's your name again? 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:53.799 Jack? 0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:58.120 Jack? Before we go? What is like the what is 0:36:58.160 --> 0:36:59.560 like the number one goal? You said you want to 0:36:59.560 --> 0:37:02.640 start a busines? There's like a business in particular that 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:07.640 you have your eyes set on. I'm curious. 0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:10.719 The only thing I'm really passionate about, and you can 0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:12.520 probably relate to this, is kind of helping people. 0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:13.720 Like I love to give advice. 0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:16.280 I don't want to go to school for eight years 0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.160 to be a therapist, but I do. I love helping people, 0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:22.640 so I'm trying to kind of match that with the business. 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:26.080 But there's nothing really that I've kind of settled on 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:26.799 or came too. 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.880 If you want to help people, if you want to 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.080 help people, it's going to come through and whatever you 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:37.120 end up doing. I'll say that because when I was 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:41.840 when I was, you know, nineteen twenty twenty one or whatever, 0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.719 I ain't know that I wanted to do what I 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:47.759 was doing right now. All I knew, though, is that 0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:49.400 I wanted to make people feel good. I want to 0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.480 make people laugh, you know what I'm saying, And the 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.279 seed of that idea is more important to take with 0:37:55.320 --> 0:37:58.120 you than sitting there and wondering do I need to 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:00.720 go to school? Do I need to do this? Uh? 0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:07.520 You just follow that, follow that desire and hope that 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.680 it manifests into some ship that's gonna be fun for 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.399 you to do. And if it don't switch that ship up. 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.480 All right, well I appreciate that. And I like the 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.640 advice of maybe getting a sugar mama and then building 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.200 my business from there. I never really thought about that, 0:38:25.320 --> 0:38:27.560 but uh, yeah, this is this has been helpful. 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.040 Thank you both, of course, Jack, thank you so much 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:30.439 for calling. 0:38:31.600 --> 0:38:32.120 Thank you Jack. 0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:37.000 Absolutely, that's sweet kid. 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:38.960 You know, I was gonna say, it's so funny that 0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:40.360 you what you were just saying, because I've said that 0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.239 on the stream a thousand times. The germ of the 0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:47.640 idea of like the germal very general idea, like I 0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:49.840 want to help people, I want to make people laugh. 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:53.560 Even even if then if you're if if the germ 0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:55.400 of your idea is like I want to make money, 0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:59.680 or like like following the germ of the idea rather 0:38:59.760 --> 0:39:02.520 than like I want to be a doctor, I want 0:39:02.600 --> 0:39:06.480 to like the specific thing following the general Yeah, because 0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:11.240 that that widens there's infinite ways too, there's like really 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.120 one way to become a doctor, but there's infinite ways 0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:17.040 to help people. You know, people get stuck with like. 0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:21.600 Think about what building they want before thinking about like 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.400 the actual materials and like the journey of getting percent. 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:30.040 They're just like shopping for their ultimate identity, you know 0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:33.040 what I mean. And there's nothing wrong with Well, there's 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:34.760 people out here who are like, No, I was six, 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:36.360 and I was I knew I was going to be 0:39:36.360 --> 0:39:38.640 a heart surgeon, and I became a fucking heart surger. 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:43.839 That's great, But the vast majority of human beings are 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:47.919 like in their forties fifties still like I don't know, Yeah, 0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:51.799 they're still I work at this bar and I just 0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.640 want to make people YadA, YadA YadA. 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:54.840 Right. 0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.920 And that's another thing is that like Jack delivers pizzas, 0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:02.200 like you like you're helping people fucking delivering pizzas, Like 0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.160 you don't have to think about like the grandest way 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.840 possible to help people. You still can, but like you 0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:11.320 can do both, Like you can like help people right 0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:15.720 now in the one to one way that you're doing it. Yeah, 0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:18.479 one at a time, one pizza at a time. 0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:22.759 Yeah, there's this weird like cause you never want to 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:27.080 tell people to be complacent, right, yeah, you know, like 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.080 everybody has a potential. Yeah, so it's like this, like 0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.000 I don't know what you call that, like this like 0:40:33.880 --> 0:40:40.080 balance between complacency and fervor for what you could get. 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:42.160 You don't want to be complacent, but you also you 0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:44.920 don't want to delay your happiness, right, so because you 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.799 can just you can do that for infinite you do that. 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:49.160 Forever because I'm I wouldn't tell Jack to deliver pieces 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:52.480 till the end of time if that's what made him happy, 0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.400 But it seems like that's something he's trying to knounce 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.719 out of. But I think he should enjoy it while 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:00.840 he's here. 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:03.319 Right right, Like if he's on the shift, there's no 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:08.280 reason to not be like Nigga, I'm delivering pieces, yes, yes, 0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:11.440 but you like that's they're not mutually exclusive. You can 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.879 be that and also be like I'm delivering. 0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.200 Pizzas and I'm gonna I'm gonna do it to the 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.520 next exactly exactly because you deliver the shit out of 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:24.120 that pizza. There's something that, like humans, you get out 0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:27.719 of doing small stupid tests like that and doing them. Well, yeah, 0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:31.400 I used to work at Jimmy John's and UH in 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:36.200 Atlanta downtown, and this was like kind of the crazy 0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:40.640 part of downtown UH. And I started working there and 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:43.520 I was gonna be a bike delivery dude. I was 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.840 gonna deliver sandwiches. I had to be like nineteen twenty 0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.799 and I was finna drop out of school. I was like, 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:53.120 fuck it, I'm finn deliver the sandwiches bro the week. 0:41:54.000 --> 0:41:56.239 Like a few days before I get the job at 0:41:56.320 --> 0:42:01.680 Jimmy John's, my bike gets stolen no, and I'm like, fuck, 0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:03.799 what am I going to do now? So I go 0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:06.399 to old boy the manager. I'm like, yo, my bike 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.600 got stolen. He's like, I mean you're a bike delivery guy. 0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:10.840 What the fuck are you gonna do now? And I 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:15.000 was like, well, look a lot of these delivery because 0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:16.880 it was the heart of downtown. So I was like 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.320 a lot of these delivery locations are like across the street, 0:42:19.920 --> 0:42:24.680 two blocks, three blocks, four blocks. No, motherfucker. I ran. 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:33.160 I ran with sandwiches through downtown Atlanta, sprinted and sometimes 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:36.359 you know what would happens. Sometimes the motherfuckers who were 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:41.440 biking would get trapped somewhere like in traffic or have 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:44.840 to lock their there was a time window where they 0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:46.439 had to lock their bike up. But they're going into 0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:48.480 the sun Trust building or something like you gotta lock 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.080 it up. They're not gonna let you in with that. 0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.879 I'm already running up the steps getting to where I'm 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.160 delivering Boom, I'm back down. I'm across the street. I'm 0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.200 getting my tips. Some days I would leave the more 0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:00.839 tips you. 0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.880 You don't need the bike to go at bike speed. 0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:08.920 No, I was dusting them, looking at like why you 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:12.120 got that shitty ass mongoose mountain bike if you can't 0:43:12.120 --> 0:43:13.200 really push it to the limit. 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.240 I love that though, because because you did, you weren't 0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:19.640 like you weren't like sitting and crying about it. You 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:20.960 were like, I'm gonna run. 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.400 Fuck this shit, fuck the ship. Run and it's a 0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:28.480 funny ass story. You twenty three delivering pieces, bitch, get 0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:29.279 a story out of it. 0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:33.439 Yeah. I appreciate when you said that, because I was like, yeah, 0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.000 I feel like I get like that sometimes, where like, 0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.439 you know, there are part times in my life where 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.920 I'm like, you know, now I'm doing this, but soon 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:43.480 I'm gonna be doing that, and it's like, well, you're not. 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:45.279 You're forgetting to even live in what you're doing right 0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.320 now and like get the stories out. 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:51.839 Of and you building a habit the habit of doing that. 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:53.920 You building a habit of doing that because then now 0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.160 you're gonna get to the other thing and not even 0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:57.200 appreciate this exactly. 0:43:57.280 --> 0:44:02.000 That's always happens, Ashley. 0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.040 Hello, how are you? 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.120 Ashley? I'm I'm here with Zach. We're talking to people 0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:14.080 on the phone. What's what's your life like, Ashley? 0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:14.480 Hi? 0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:16.400 I'm doing fantastic. 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.000 Actually, it's very excited. You're very hard to get ahold of. 0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.680 Yesterday I called you one hundred and seventy seven times, 0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:24.920 but today I called once. 0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:28.319 So here we are, hell hellya. IM happy to have 0:44:28.400 --> 0:44:31.960 you on, Ashley. Is is there anything in particular that 0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:41.319 that you'd like to talk about? Pegging off the bat? 0:44:41.320 --> 0:44:44.040 What's your level of experience with this topic? 0:44:44.760 --> 0:44:49.399 Minimal? But like I can I could rock, I could 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:50.400 rut with a conversation. 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.280 Okay, wait asking are you asking? 0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:52.640 Zach? 0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:53.719 Well? 0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:55.399 I now ask you? 0:44:58.360 --> 0:45:01.320 Okay, So I don't have any experience taking it actually, 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:04.279 but it's something that I really really want to do. 0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:08.080 But I can't find somebody who would be okay with it, 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:09.960 and that's my problem. I'm want to talk about, like 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.440 why people can't just normalize pegging. Why there's such a 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:26.200 big stigma around it? Where you live actually, Savannah, Georgia. 0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:30.520 You from Savannah, Georgia. Well, let me tell you something. 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.120 I'm from Savannah, Georgia. 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.479 I was in Atlanta the other day. 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:38.600 I'm also from Atlanta, Georgia. 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:39.200 Yeah. 0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:41.040 I heard about your Jimmy Jones experience. 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.160 When you when I think you just need to get 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:47.399 up out of Savannah. I think that's I think that's 0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:49.399 all you need to do. Yeah, I think as soon 0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.000 as you start hanging out in Atlanta, you're gonna find 0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:56.680 some freaky motherfuckers that's gone off the perks who are 0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:57.440 like baby girl. 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:01.360 That was is so weird that you say that? 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:13.400 Did I say? What? Oh? In Atlanta? Yeah, there's a 0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:16.840 long story. 0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:19.399 Anyways, What about like what is are your guys' views 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:21.640 on pegging? Like would you ever let a woman peg you? 0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:22.239 Why? 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:22.719 Or why not? 0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:26.919 Here? 0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:31.880 Okay, here's my thing about pegging and butt stuff just 0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.440 for me as a man, just as man. I've spoken 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:44.040 about this before. I don't have the like, oh I 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.719 don't want you to do that because I'm this, I'm that, 0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.879 blah blah blah, Like once a man and a woman 0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:55.440 are together, everything's on the table. Sure, But for me, 0:46:57.719 --> 0:47:06.200 I'm just never one percent sure that my butthole is 0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:10.120 that ready to go. I'm never one hundred percent. And 0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.919 I'll say this, I'll say this. It'll like I'll take 0:47:13.960 --> 0:47:16.600 full showers, I'll do the whole thing, spread cheeks, let 0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:21.279 water get in there, like I wash. But even when 0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:24.480 I get out, the moment I get out, I feel 0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:30.440 like my ass is dirty. Yes, And as much as 0:47:30.480 --> 0:47:32.719 I want to be hey, yeah, as much as I 0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:34.800 want to be like, hey baby, let's do the pegging 0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:38.480 thing tonight, as soon as it starts, I would be like, 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.520 I'm fin the duchy, Like there's definitely duky. There's dukie. 0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:46.360 There's gotta be dukie on it. There's definitely. And I'll say, 0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:48.600 my girl loved me. I know if there was some dukie, 0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:52.399 she wouldn't care. But that's just something that's I gotta 0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:54.759 do the work. So I'm just giving you an example 0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.000 of the work that I got to do at my 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.680 level of comfortability with it, where a lot of dudes 0:48:02.400 --> 0:48:04.320 they got a whole, they got a whole slew of 0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.840 levels where they just might not be like comfortable with 0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:08.640 it at all. I don't know. 0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.200 It's hard to keep it's hard to clean your asshole 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:12.879 to a point where you're like. 0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:14.960 And I'm not going to clean and I'm not going 0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:18.360 to douche my ass. I don't want to. Really, I 0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:19.520 don't want to douche my ass. 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.080 I think maybe it's different for guys because like a 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.080 lot of I know, most guys' assholes are hairy, right, 0:48:25.160 --> 0:48:28.480 Like I shaved my butthole so like, and I'll really 0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.880 scrub at it and I can feel that it's clean, you. 0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:31.399 Know what I mean. 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:34.520 Yeah, no, yeah, I'll be scrubbing it and feelings clean. 0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:37.239 But like, yeah, you gotta hear you. You gotta hear 0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:37.759 you as well. 0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:41.280 Y'all have a huge I have an extremely hairy ass, 0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.359 so like I have a very hairy body. I mean, 0:48:43.400 --> 0:48:46.920 like my belly is already pretty and this is like 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:48.160 my assholes. 0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:50.840 Like forced And that's what I'm saying. So you expecting 0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:53.960 the motherfucker, like wow, to not only get over his 0:48:53.960 --> 0:48:56.960 his belly hairs and arm pits, but not only that, 0:48:57.080 --> 0:49:00.440 to get over your whole idea of being of like 0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:06.240 manliness and be like yes, I'm okay with booty stuff, sure, 0:49:06.560 --> 0:49:08.720 and torking my booty up in the air and getting 0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.000 getting ate up and blown out and all of that 0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:14.680 stuff by my girl. Yeah, you asking somebody to get 0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:17.240 over that and then also get over their body here 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.680 and all these different levels. It's a lot of different 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:24.640 levels of shit that that like men gotta go through 0:49:24.640 --> 0:49:27.040 to get comfortable with that. So what I actually just 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.720 suggest like it's a lot of freaky motherfuckers in Atlanta 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:35.279 that have already done that work within themselves and they 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:36.480 ready to just get it in. 0:49:37.000 --> 0:49:39.040 Yeah, how important is it to you because you say 0:49:39.080 --> 0:49:42.640 that you wanted to be normalized in that, Like like 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.880 are you trying to are you trying to like be 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:49.520 a guy's first or are you like looking for someone 0:49:49.520 --> 0:49:53.759 who's experienced in being pegged? Because I also feel like 0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:56.200 even if even if I'm not like in person at 0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.520 one of these dungeons or anything like that, it's like 0:49:59.040 --> 0:50:02.239 there's all these there's all these websites that you can 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:05.319 go to where like they specialize in this kind of thing. 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:10.799 Well, I think we kind of I don't know, because 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:15.280 I feel like I could it could be somebody's first 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:18.040 or somebody who is experienced. It doesn't really matter. 0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:19.680 To me if I could. 0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:21.560 Cool. 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.200 I'm looking for a free agent. Free that ass, free 0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:27.719 that ass actually said give it to me. I don't 0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:28.239 care if you. 0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:36.480 Know, personally, I couldn't if if and everything you described 0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:39.520 of like I it's so hard and impossible to clean 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.560 my ass and to shave it and all all like 0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.640 to prepare. Even if I could properly prepare my ass 0:50:44.960 --> 0:50:48.640 for butt stuff, I don't think I could. I think 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.400 the most I would reasonably do is have somebody to 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:55.960 lick it. But to actually like put a thing a 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:57.880 thing in there, I don't think I could do that. 0:50:58.000 --> 0:50:59.719 But even but even to have somebody lick it, it's 0:50:59.719 --> 0:51:05.360 like I'm never I'm never gonna get my ass clean 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:10.759 to the point where I wouldn't feel horrendously sorry for somebody. Yes, yeah, 0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:12.880 I would never. I'd never get there. It's a fantasy 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:14.239 to have an asshole that's clean where I. 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.239 Would be like, you would feel sorry if someone were 0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:18.440 to peggy is what you're saying. 0:51:19.320 --> 0:51:22.200 Well, if somebody were like putting their tongue in my ass, 0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:25.560 It's like there's no way that you're not hating this 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:28.000 right now. I couldn't get my mind. 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:28.279 Yeah. 0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:29.120 No, the other day. 0:51:29.320 --> 0:51:32.200 The other day, I was fingering this guy's asshole where 0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.600 I was about to and then I've like stuck my 0:51:34.640 --> 0:51:37.000 finger there and he has a very hairy ass and 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:40.840 I felt something like a little clump and that freaked 0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:41.359 me out. 0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:45.359 That freaked you out, And that's exactly what we say. 0:51:45.440 --> 0:51:47.160 Yeah, there was like a clump there. 0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:50.879 Like he's that's what we're saying. I felt lump. 0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:52.680 Is freaking you are? 0:51:53.560 --> 0:51:54.760 Did you bring up the clump? 0:51:57.400 --> 0:51:59.080 I did not bring up the clump. I didn't want 0:51:59.120 --> 0:51:59.920 to embarrass him. 0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:02.399 Real nigga, I'll fuck with you. I'll fuck with you, 0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:04.680 see that. And that's what we're scared of, is that 0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:09.640 I just somebody gonna feel the clump and go clumb alert, 0:52:09.680 --> 0:52:15.920 clumb alert. He's got dookie, And now my ego and 0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:20.799 confidence is shattered. Yep, you know so I respect you 0:52:20.840 --> 0:52:21.920 for not bringing up the clump. 0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:25.240 No, yeah, I didn't want to. Yeah, no, I wouldn't. 0:52:25.280 --> 0:52:26.440 I wouldn't bring up the clump. 0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.200 I actually take it off, but I did not stick. 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.680 If there's I want to know, it's actually my it's 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:34.799 actually my namemarre that there is a clump, there is 0:52:34.840 --> 0:52:39.040 something wrong, and they don't tell me because I want it, 0:52:39.040 --> 0:52:41.120 because if because I want to be prepared for next time, 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.120 because I don't want what I think is clean to 0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.920 not be the right the right answer. I want the truth. 0:52:49.040 --> 0:52:50.960 I feel that so that way I'm prepared next time. 0:52:51.040 --> 0:52:51.759 I feel that too. 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:56.200 If he would have asked me, I would have told him, 0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.680 But he didn't ask me. I just don't think he 0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:00.560 knew it was there, and I feel like if I 0:53:00.560 --> 0:53:02.600 would have brought it up, it would have been embarrassing. 0:53:02.760 --> 0:53:04.759 I didn't want to put myself in that situation. That 0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:09.480 is fully naked man in front of me has been strange. 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:14.359 A word of advice. Actually, a man has gone through 0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:16.520 all of the work to get comfortable enough to let 0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:20.719 you finger, lick and peg his asshole. The last thing 0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.839 we're about to do is turn around and go, hey, 0:53:23.920 --> 0:53:26.759 was there Duchie in my ass That's the last thing 0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.399 that he's about to do. He's about to get up. 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.040 I guess he's. 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:36.520 Gonna straighten on his back and walks out of that 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:44.280 room like Superman and pretend you know nothing just happened, 0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:46.040 or do whatever he needs to do to be like, yeah, 0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:50.000 I'm I'm still I'm man, you know what I mean. 0:53:50.040 --> 0:53:54.520 So he's committed. He's committed, So you got to you 0:53:54.600 --> 0:53:57.440 gotta do the work and be more urgent and be 0:53:57.520 --> 0:53:58.440 like hey, hey, like. 0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:06.880 It's a clump, right, or I could just tell to 0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:10.960 geckos and two thousand people on the internet about it, 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:11.719 or do. 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.479 You do feel do you feel better having talked about 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:15.960 the subject now that now that it's said and done, 0:54:18.760 --> 0:54:19.600 I kind. 0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.280 Of yeah, I think so, Like I understand more about 0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:24.160 why guys don't want to do it now, which is 0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.520 what I was trying to get to, Like maybe they're 0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:29.280 just not comfortable in their own skin or whatever. 0:54:29.600 --> 0:54:31.239 By the way, there might be a guy out there 0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:38.200 who is like, who is like they actually maybe that's 0:54:38.200 --> 0:54:40.399 part of they get off on the fact that their 0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.560 asshole is that they got club. They actually want to 0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:48.160 have clumps and then clumps. 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:48.640 There's clump. 0:54:48.760 --> 0:54:50.839 There's a beautiful thing about the world is all sorts 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.160 of different people who want all sorts of different things. 0:54:53.400 --> 0:54:56.560 There's a clump gang out there, and. 0:54:56.560 --> 0:54:59.240 We live in an interconnected society in which the clump 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:01.200 lovers and the clump as can find each other and 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:02.240 make beautiful. 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:05.160 Love damn clump light, I hope. 0:55:05.200 --> 0:55:07.920 So thank you very much for calling Ashley. 0:55:09.680 --> 0:55:10.600 Thank you, thank you. 0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:16.680 She's great. I think Ashley just needs to hang out 0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:17.920 on Edgewood Avenue? 0:55:19.280 --> 0:55:19.440 Is that? 0:55:19.680 --> 0:55:21.400 Is that a place in Savannah? 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:25.920 That in Atlanta? Just find her a bisexual man on 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:32.799 Atlanta Avenue Atlanta and Atlanta Avenue, Edgewood Avenue who likes 0:55:32.840 --> 0:55:33.360 but stuff. 0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:40.560 Hello, Evelyn, Hey, how are you with? I'm here with 0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:45.160 Zach Fox were Gecko's how is how? 0:55:45.320 --> 0:55:47.919 How are you again? 0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:51.919 I'm doing O care. I'm doing better than I thought 0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:52.319 I would. 0:55:53.480 --> 0:55:54.680 How did you think you were doing. 0:55:58.320 --> 0:55:58.600 Well? 0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.560 I just moved into new apartment for college and it's 0:56:02.600 --> 0:56:06.120 in Utah, so that's kind of myss. But I'm I 0:56:06.239 --> 0:56:09.320 feel like I got good roommates and the area is nice. 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.759 I was living in my dad's parents' house before and 0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:15.000 that was not fun. So it's good to be on my. 0:56:14.960 --> 0:56:22.960 Own, Evelyn. Evelyn, it says here that you're looking for 0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:25.280 some some form of relationship advice. 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:34.839 Yeah. So basically I met this guy on Tinder, which 0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:38.560 is which is a questionable app to meet people, but 0:56:39.960 --> 0:56:43.279 turning out, this guy and we started talking and we 0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:45.080 were probably talking for like a month and a half 0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:49.000 two months, and things were going super super well. But 0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:54.680 he actually signed in to join the Navy, and he 0:56:54.960 --> 0:56:57.879 was supposed to leave for training in the middle of February, 0:56:58.400 --> 0:57:03.000 but then they made him leave in December. And so 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:06.200 the dilemma is that we never really had the like 0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:12.279 official relationship talk, you know, we never like set boundaries 0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:17.080 or what we were And so I did ask him 0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:20.240 before he left, like if he wanted to stay in touch, 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:24.080 because at this point, the like training school that he's in, 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:28.760 he's in boot camp, and we can only talk through letters, 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:32.600 which is like the most intense form of long distance. 0:57:33.640 --> 0:57:37.480 So did you have you have like a phone or 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:39.320 anything when you're in the you're in the Navy. 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:44.760 I think after the first ten weeks, once he like 0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:49.000 moves to the next school, he can have a phone. 0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.600 For everyone say, it's like a red flag to date 0:57:53.680 --> 0:57:57.200 someone in the Navy. I did not know he was 0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:01.560 like involved with that stuff until we had started talking. 0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:05.600 And he's not like the stereotypical kind of guy, Like 0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:07.560 if you saw him on the street or talk to him, 0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:12.200 you'd never guess that he like chose as his career. 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:21.000 M I just feel like. 0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:26.960 You're I don't know if I want not the typical ones, 0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:33.040 like the typical opinion the Navy guy is like booty stuff, right, 0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:36.400 which is like whatever, It's like, we're all he. 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:40.000 Wasn't into booty stuff, but he was into some beauty. 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.680 I will say that, Yeah, but I'm talking about you know, 0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.760 booty stuff with other men is what the Navy. The Navy, 0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:51.680 uh stigma is, Oh, he's about that. Here's the thing 0:58:51.720 --> 0:58:59.960 about that. The Navy doesn't produce or attract men who 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:04.000 want to have sex with other men. The entire military does. 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:08.080 You know what I'm saying. The whole military is predicated 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:10.680 on that fact that like being overseers, being deployed with 0:59:10.720 --> 0:59:12.920 a bunch of other dudes. Like not to say every 0:59:14.000 --> 0:59:17.520 man in the military is, but if I was, if 0:59:17.560 --> 0:59:19.680 I was a gay man, I'd be like, I know 0:59:19.720 --> 0:59:21.920 where I'm going, right, you know what I'm saying. So 0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:23.880 I don't think there's a stigma. I don't think that's 0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:26.160 a fair stigma to put on the Navy. I think 0:59:26.400 --> 0:59:30.880 anything can be that, you know what I'm saying. But 0:59:31.320 --> 0:59:33.640 what I will say is, yeah, how old are you? 0:59:33.640 --> 0:59:34.760 You're eight? How old are you. 0:59:37.400 --> 0:59:39.560 I'm eighteen, I'm a freshman in college. 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:45.400 Your freshman in college. My cut and dry advice. Let's 0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:48.080 move on, baby girl. You got too much, you got 0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:51.080 too much living, You got too much living to do. 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:54.320 Very strong. 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.160 So should I just stay in touch with him? But 0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:58.280 like not be serious about it? 0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:00.960 Stay in touch? You know, he going to the navy. 1:00:00.960 --> 1:00:05.439 He's gonna become he gonna become three different men while 1:00:05.480 --> 1:00:09.520 he's out there, learn about hisself. You know what I'm saying, 1:00:09.600 --> 1:00:13.960 Like he's gonna be in a in a whole different world, 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:19.000 you know, the world of dynamics that you could only imagine. 1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:23.040 So how how are y'all even gonna relate through through letters? 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:25.440 You know what I'm saying, Like he's in a completely 1:00:25.480 --> 1:00:28.800 different universe than you. And you're trying to talk to 1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:32.080 him about school, and he's trying to talk to you 1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:38.000 about God, the deck, the guns in the deck, and 1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:39.840 the fucking starbird and the ship. 1:00:39.840 --> 1:00:42.160 And I'm gonna recognize half the words he's saying in 1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:42.640 these letters. 1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:45.040 Yeah, you're gonna be like, I guess that's cool. Like 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:52.680 you're gonna lose You're gonna lose interest faster, faster than 1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:56.280 I put on this gecko suit, and it's. 1:00:56.120 --> 1:00:58.680 Like are you are you? Did you move out of 1:00:58.680 --> 1:01:01.040 state to go to college or are you going to college? 1:01:01.080 --> 1:01:03.360 Like were you kind of already like hot people? 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:09.720 Yeah, I'm originally from Washington State and so I'm going 1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:13.440 to school in Utah. But I met him here in Utah. 1:01:13.560 --> 1:01:16.000 Okay, Well, if your your first red flag is that 1:01:16.080 --> 1:01:19.600 he's from Utah, that's where you should. 1:01:19.280 --> 1:01:21.400 Have just yeah, that is very true. 1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:24.640 You should have now. And I'm I'm letting you off 1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:27.400 the hook because you're eighteen and you're learning about life 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.880 and you're supposed to get out there and make mistakes 1:01:30.440 --> 1:01:33.520 and and and it's child by fire. I'm thirty one 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:42.240 to just just right off Utah. Okay, Okay. 1:01:42.720 --> 1:01:47.080 Also, I wanted to circle back to what Zach was 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:51.720 saying about Mark Zuckerberg earlier. I have this theory about him, 1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:55.880 so recently he's been creating the metaverse and kind of 1:01:56.280 --> 1:02:00.160 he's low key taking control of all virtual realities what 1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:02.920 I feel like he's doing. So I had this theory 1:02:03.040 --> 1:02:05.640 like what if and it kind of ties into like 1:02:05.640 --> 1:02:09.120 the simulation theory, but like, what if we're just living 1:02:09.320 --> 1:02:14.040 in Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse? Right, now I feel like some 1:02:14.160 --> 1:02:20.160 evidence is that Mark Zuckerberg has a wife and she's 1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:23.800 actually kind of pretty, like she's pretty attractive. So I 1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:27.080 would say like he could have just made a wife 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:30.840 and family for himself, because there's no way he's ever 1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:35.280 touched to a woman like a real woman before. What 1:02:35.320 --> 1:02:36.760 are your guys' thoughts on that? 1:02:41.120 --> 1:02:47.040 I mean, I mean, look, if you have enough money, 1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:53.919 like I don't think it's I think I think now 1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:56.919 Here's the question is does Mark Zuckerberg's wife love him 1:02:56.920 --> 1:03:00.400 for who he is? Would Mark Zuckerberg's wife of Mark 1:03:00.480 --> 1:03:03.760 Zuckerberg were he not to the Mark Zuckerberg. 1:03:03.400 --> 1:03:06.280 Would she take a Will she take a bullet for him? 1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:07.920 Type ship? That's what you're saying? 1:03:08.000 --> 1:03:09.880 Like this, she really she wouldn't. I don't think she 1:03:09.960 --> 1:03:11.320 don't think she would take a I don't think she 1:03:11.320 --> 1:03:15.600 would take a bullet. I don't know if she truly 1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:20.200 loves him, but that she wouldn't take a she's all 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:22.320 that much she could she could love him, But I 1:03:22.360 --> 1:03:28.880 think that she loves that she has attached herself to 1:03:29.000 --> 1:03:31.360 something in life where she will never have to think 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:40.200 about anything utility, at least any sort of paperwork ever 1:03:40.320 --> 1:03:41.960 again there is. 1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:43.360 Though. 1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:50.080 It's it's not a completely Scott free life, because you 1:03:50.120 --> 1:03:53.760 do get memed on heavily for for dating Mark Zuckerberg. 1:03:54.000 --> 1:03:58.360 Sure, but what the fuck is a meme when you 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:02.800 infinite in it wealth that you couldn't spend if you 1:04:02.920 --> 1:04:05.640 lived two thousand times? 1:04:05.800 --> 1:04:06.000 Yeah? 1:04:07.040 --> 1:04:13.840 I think, But I wonder coming from every direction. 1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:17.080 But as long as your as long. 1:04:16.920 --> 1:04:20.160 As your billions of dollars dollars? Why do you even 1:04:20.640 --> 1:04:22.040 why are you even on the internet? 1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:22.800 Trade? 1:04:23.320 --> 1:04:23.640 Right? 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:24.560 Oh? 1:04:24.680 --> 1:04:27.120 Man, she doesn't see those memes. 1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:27.640 No, she doesn't. 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:30.120 She doesn't know she's the Internet and knowing Mark, he's 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:33.600 a fucking robot. He lets her have all types of 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:36.720 sexy Dominican six pack ab. 1:04:38.280 --> 1:04:41.520 You think, so she can have sex with whomever. You 1:04:41.560 --> 1:04:42.640 think that's you think that's the deal. 1:04:42.680 --> 1:04:43.520 I think that's the deal. 1:04:43.680 --> 1:04:47.520 They have kids, though, Yeah, they have They have like 1:04:47.600 --> 1:04:48.920 two or three kids. 1:04:51.000 --> 1:04:51.280 Damn. 1:04:51.360 --> 1:04:52.680 I really wonder where those kids. 1:04:52.800 --> 1:04:54.280 Where did those kids come from? 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:55.040 They're gonna be. 1:04:57.360 --> 1:05:00.920 They're probably just robots like they Oh wait, they're real. 1:05:02.040 --> 1:05:03.800 I could see one of his, you know. And like 1:05:04.280 --> 1:05:06.800 in these dynasties, there's always like there's a black sheep 1:05:07.160 --> 1:05:11.479 that goes like my family. One of the Trumps did that. 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:14.400 One of Mark Zuckerberg's kids I believe will at some 1:05:14.400 --> 1:05:17.040 point come out and be like, I this man is 1:05:17.080 --> 1:05:21.680 my father. I will confirm for sure he is a robot. 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:23.760 I could see one of his kids coming in like that. 1:05:24.080 --> 1:05:30.320 Yeah. Yeah. As far as the metaverse stuff, I don't 1:05:30.360 --> 1:05:31.000 know anymore. 1:05:31.240 --> 1:05:33.360 We I was. I've been thinking about it. I think 1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:36.880 whether or not I like it, it is one thing, 1:05:36.960 --> 1:05:39.760 but it seems inevitable that, yes, we are going to 1:05:39.800 --> 1:05:42.200 live in the metaverse. We already all live online. Everyone 1:05:42.240 --> 1:05:45.600 watching this right now, isn't everyone in this chat lives online. 1:05:45.640 --> 1:05:47.040 They're already interacting with each other. 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:50.080 Hm, We're already. 1:05:50.080 --> 1:05:55.280 We're really already there. It's just getting us. It's just 1:05:55.400 --> 1:05:57.720 when are they gonna put the headsets on? Like in 1:05:57.760 --> 1:06:02.000 the SpongeBob movie when Blankton has the bucket hat thing 1:06:02.080 --> 1:06:04.720 that that's where we're going. But we're already there. We 1:06:04.720 --> 1:06:05.960 were already in the metaverse. 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:10.000 And once everyone else is there and you decide not 1:06:10.120 --> 1:06:14.640 to be, you will be so alienated and your life 1:06:14.640 --> 1:06:21.520 will be such a lonely hell that you'll wake up 1:06:21.560 --> 1:06:29.120 every day and pain from not making the decision to 1:06:29.280 --> 1:06:32.000 go to the metaverse. That's how rough they're going to 1:06:32.040 --> 1:06:34.600 make it. I think if this thing is real, like, 1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:39.800 if they're serious about it, they're doing they're doing billions 1:06:39.800 --> 1:06:43.600 of dollars of analytical research into our psychology every day, 1:06:43.880 --> 1:06:47.880 collecting data. They know exactly what could make me, that 1:06:47.960 --> 1:06:54.320 could break me down to my most lowest common denominator, sadness. 1:06:54.400 --> 1:06:57.760 They know what about you, everybody in the chat you, Ashley, 1:06:58.920 --> 1:07:03.360 So the next step, like they could just do whatever? 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:08.720 Is that comforting for you to hear, Evelyn? 1:07:14.120 --> 1:07:18.400 Honestly, no time made me feel wait. 1:07:18.400 --> 1:07:21.960 Down, damn well, thank you so much for calling us. 1:07:21.960 --> 1:07:24.000 How about you, guys, how do you feel about that? 1:07:24.800 --> 1:07:26.920 Again? I'm of the opinion it's like how I feel, 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:31.720 how I feel doesn't matter because it's it's an inevitability. 1:07:31.720 --> 1:07:33.760 We're all going we as I said, we all already 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:36.360 live in the internet. I mean, I'm on Instagram and 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:40.600 stupid Discord and TikTok. I'm already. Well, I'm already I'm 1:07:40.600 --> 1:07:42.200 already living in the Internet. It's just a matter of 1:07:42.200 --> 1:07:48.560 when they're gonna tape it to my head, which is inevitable, Evelyn. 1:07:49.160 --> 1:07:52.320 Any final thoughts, feeling, sentiments, comments, concerns. 1:07:56.000 --> 1:07:58.480 All I have to say is that I appreciate you guys. 1:07:59.280 --> 1:08:01.919 I appreciate your honesty, and that you guys are real 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:04.920 and it was good talking to you, and I hope 1:08:04.960 --> 1:08:06.000 you guys have a great night. 1:08:07.040 --> 1:08:08.479 Thank you. 1:08:08.720 --> 1:08:15.080 We appreciate you. Say no to you talking all right? Dumping? 1:08:16.560 --> 1:08:18.120 Can I can I ask you to do me a favor? 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:22.360 Could you take this next call while I go to 1:08:22.360 --> 1:08:23.160 the bathroom. 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:26.679 Yeah, and and uh when you get back, I'm gonna 1:08:26.680 --> 1:08:27.280 have to have to. 1:08:27.240 --> 1:08:27.799 Go to the bathrooms. 1:08:28.000 --> 1:08:31.840 Yeah, the beers, but tack team, can you can you 1:08:32.320 --> 1:08:35.320 tee me up because I'm yeah, absolutely if you if 1:08:35.360 --> 1:08:37.360 you tee me up with it, I can. 1:08:37.479 --> 1:08:39.400 And I'll be quick. I'm not gonna be like I'm 1:08:39.400 --> 1:08:40.519 a quick I'm a quick period. 1:08:40.800 --> 1:08:43.920 Okay, all right, and I'll let you Let's see, let's 1:08:43.960 --> 1:08:46.599 do this, let's do this, te me up on the call, 1:08:47.320 --> 1:08:53.559 don't let's let's like go pee before they asked what 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:54.480 their question. 1:08:54.360 --> 1:08:56.720 Is, We'll do it. We'll do it. 1:08:56.960 --> 1:09:00.080 We'll do an introduction, yes, and then I'll take the 1:09:00.120 --> 1:09:02.120 top of the question and then when you come back 1:09:02.160 --> 1:09:08.479 from ping yes, just get back into their question. 1:09:08.760 --> 1:09:09.080 Yes. 1:09:09.120 --> 1:09:12.200 Without even knowing the first half of it. Yes, okay, 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:12.519 I like that. 1:09:12.560 --> 1:09:14.559 I like that challenge because I feel like I feel 1:09:14.600 --> 1:09:17.479 like I feel like I'm up for that to just 1:09:17.640 --> 1:09:19.360 enter in the middle of the conversation. 1:09:19.040 --> 1:09:22.840 And just pick it back up totally. Okay, Okay, let's see. 1:09:23.920 --> 1:09:24.840 Hello, is this Nie? 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:27.200 Yo's good? 1:09:28.280 --> 1:09:30.160 Na, I'm doing great. I'm here with I'm here with 1:09:30.280 --> 1:09:30.920 Black Fox. 1:09:33.960 --> 1:09:34.080 Yo. 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:35.000 What's good is Zach? 1:09:35.439 --> 1:09:36.800 What's up? Doug? How you knowing? 1:09:37.280 --> 1:09:37.439 Yo? 1:09:37.600 --> 1:09:40.880 I'm not yo. Bro, you put me on the Betty Wait. 1:09:40.840 --> 1:09:43.400 On, God, I'll put you on the Betty way. 1:09:44.760 --> 1:09:45.040 Wow. 1:09:46.320 --> 1:09:50.000 Hell yeah, bro? When you dropped that dropped that Jesus 1:09:50.000 --> 1:09:52.680 is but one blass day back in the day. 1:09:54.760 --> 1:09:58.439 I'm I'm happy that I could bridge a generational gap 1:09:58.439 --> 1:09:58.800 for you. 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:02.680 Oh yeah, but our pr. 1:10:04.439 --> 1:10:05.599 Yeah but anybody? 1:10:06.840 --> 1:10:07.360 How you doing it? 1:10:07.439 --> 1:10:07.559 Dad? 1:10:10.160 --> 1:10:12.120 You said, how are we doing it? I'm doing great, 1:10:12.280 --> 1:10:12.840 I'm good. 1:10:13.000 --> 1:10:15.599 I'm doing good as well. I I can't. I don't. 1:10:15.640 --> 1:10:18.360 I can't understand what you're saying. Very well? 1:10:20.840 --> 1:10:23.639 Oh sorry about that? Is it? Is it a whole 1:10:23.640 --> 1:10:24.799 bunch of noise in the background. 1:10:25.000 --> 1:10:29.520 No, no, Now, I can hear you well, Hello. 1:10:29.760 --> 1:10:31.439 Yeah, yeah, we can hear you. 1:10:31.479 --> 1:10:33.880 Well. How do you feel about how do you feel 1:10:33.880 --> 1:10:35.639 about this? Do you want say, for a little longer? 1:10:35.680 --> 1:10:38.120 Do you feel let's yeah, let's do it. I think 1:10:38.160 --> 1:10:39.600 you can go. Okay, okay, I'll be right, I'll be 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:43.160 right back. I I predict, yeah, I predict. 1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:45.360 I predict that will be no longer than two than 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:45.920 three minutes. 1:10:46.080 --> 1:10:51.160 I believe you wait, peeing with it? You just take this? Okay, beautiful? 1:10:51.200 --> 1:10:56.280 All right? I feel good? All right? Uh nye, all right? 1:10:56.760 --> 1:10:58.160 What's what's on your mind? 1:10:58.640 --> 1:10:58.760 Uh? 1:11:00.360 --> 1:11:00.960 Whats going on? 1:11:02.120 --> 1:11:07.200 It's a lot. It's just a lot, man, h I 1:11:07.280 --> 1:11:09.240 have a lot going on right now. That's on how 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:12.200 to come about it? Well? 1:11:12.320 --> 1:11:13.360 Yeah, so. 1:11:14.840 --> 1:11:19.560 I am a okay, so I'm an entrepreneur FORIRL and 1:11:21.120 --> 1:11:25.120 I just like money, you know. And last year I 1:11:25.200 --> 1:11:25.479 did it. 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:25.920 It made it. 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:28.080 I don't know if I just said I made a 1:11:28.160 --> 1:11:33.559 dumb decision, but I mean there was some outcome out 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:39.320 of it, you know. But uh, I decided to take 1:11:39.360 --> 1:11:42.120 a risk and hop one point of you know, and uh, 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:47.000 I blow some videos and those videos kind of caught fire. 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:53.880 And I want to say, like a few of my 1:11:54.080 --> 1:11:57.479 videos have at least like on average, my videos have 1:11:57.560 --> 1:12:02.080 at least like ten k as far as use, and 1:12:02.320 --> 1:12:07.280 uh like, let's say I have a kid, you know, 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:12.360 and uh, you know, like what like what happened? Like 1:12:12.680 --> 1:12:14.479 how do I come across there? Let's say like in 1:12:14.560 --> 1:12:17.599 the next few years like this, I'll become freaking Johnny 1:12:17.720 --> 1:12:23.200 since you know, and like how would I how would 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:24.920 I explain my kids? Like how would I tell my 1:12:25.040 --> 1:12:25.600 kids about that? 1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:25.840 You know? 1:12:28.560 --> 1:12:32.840 All right, let me walk back through this now, just 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:34.639 so I make sure I got all the facts straight. 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:40.000 You're an entrepreneur, you just you like making the money. 1:12:42.160 --> 1:12:47.719 Last year you started putting pouring up. I'm assuming starring 1:12:47.760 --> 1:12:54.840 yourself on porn Hub, yes, and and your dilemma and 1:12:54.920 --> 1:13:02.040 your question is how you would relay that to your children? 1:13:02.320 --> 1:13:05.439 So I'm assuming. So I'm assuming that your face is 1:13:05.520 --> 1:13:07.240 in your face is in these videos. 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:14.519 I mean like like two of them. I mean it's 1:13:14.600 --> 1:13:18.120 not like there's two of them, but like they're very visible, 1:13:18.160 --> 1:13:21.880 you know, and like I don't like, okay, like you 1:13:21.960 --> 1:13:24.720 know those videos on YouTube or like like there's been 1:13:24.800 --> 1:13:27.840 videos on YouTube that I've seen, like of kids like 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:33.400 getting bullies for that and like going to school. Oh, 1:13:33.439 --> 1:13:35.360 your mom's the only fans star you know? 1:13:36.000 --> 1:13:39.719 Mm hmmmmmmm. Are you doing Are you doing these videos? 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:42.000 And I just have a couple of are you doing 1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:46.760 these videos with one like dedicated co star or is it. 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:54.240 Like other like uh this mhm, So as of right now, 1:13:54.360 --> 1:14:01.760 it's one dedicated co star and like we're getting like 1:14:02.520 --> 1:14:08.400 I mean, I wouldn't say like it's like stable and 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:13.400 come off of it, but it's it's it's like it 1:14:13.760 --> 1:14:15.160 could be it could be a little bit more better, 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:19.560 you know. But and like I know I can like 1:14:19.640 --> 1:14:22.519 I got a sense of how fast things can catch fire, 1:14:22.640 --> 1:14:25.920 you know, after like I'm not trying to promote myself 1:14:25.960 --> 1:14:28.599 at all, but like I do TikTok every so often, 1:14:28.800 --> 1:14:31.960 and like like a few months ago, like one of 1:14:32.000 --> 1:14:35.920 my videos ended up hitting the mill then like I 1:14:36.000 --> 1:14:39.559 don't want that to happen in like, you. 1:14:39.640 --> 1:14:42.519 Know, real quick, how do you feel? 1:14:42.920 --> 1:14:45.600 You know what I'm saying, Like that's scary that that 1:14:45.720 --> 1:14:46.840 was a scary moment for. 1:14:46.920 --> 1:14:50.360 Me, you know, And tell me more about why it 1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:51.240 was a scary moment for. 1:14:51.280 --> 1:14:55.840 You, because like I've never had no like nothing like 1:14:55.920 --> 1:14:56.800 that happened, you know. 1:14:57.120 --> 1:15:10.160 And yeah, and yeah, are you like are you uncomfortable 1:15:10.640 --> 1:15:12.200 about being perceived? 1:15:16.280 --> 1:15:21.320 Like uh, if you say you can say that, you 1:15:21.360 --> 1:15:24.519 can say that, like but like within with then that's 1:15:24.720 --> 1:15:26.240 like I don't know, man, I. 1:15:26.240 --> 1:15:29.439 Don't know, And tell me about tell me. Okay, So 1:15:29.520 --> 1:15:31.479 you said you're with the dedicated You're with a dedicated 1:15:31.520 --> 1:15:38.840 co star, right, yes, sir? And what how do the 1:15:38.880 --> 1:15:39.080 how do? 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:39.400 What? 1:15:39.520 --> 1:15:40.840 What is your relationship to them? 1:15:40.960 --> 1:15:41.080 Is this? 1:15:41.280 --> 1:15:44.360 Uh, it's a romantic relationship. It's a friendship. 1:15:45.640 --> 1:15:49.760 Yes, rely very it's a very romantic relationship. But like 1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:53.720 I don't like, like could I see this as being 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:58.240 a long term thing, you know, as far as like 1:15:58.520 --> 1:16:02.599 me continuously doing that like uploading videos and doing all 1:16:02.640 --> 1:16:03.080 this stuff. 1:16:05.200 --> 1:16:10.519 So all these concerns that you have about how your 1:16:10.600 --> 1:16:13.880 kids might feel, about how you might be perceived, the 1:16:14.280 --> 1:16:16.000 general concerns that I feel like a lot of people 1:16:16.040 --> 1:16:19.400 who do this this kind of work feel Have you 1:16:19.520 --> 1:16:23.880 talked to them through with your co star and if 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:25.640 you have, what are their feelings on that? 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:29.439 She's all for. 1:16:31.920 --> 1:16:32.560 She's all for it? 1:16:34.040 --> 1:16:37.080 Like she's all for and like I. 1:16:38.760 --> 1:16:41.360 Like, I just don't know how to feel about that 1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:45.800 because you know, like like I don't I do it 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:54.120 out of love? You know? And yeah, like because like 1:16:54.200 --> 1:16:59.200 it's something like like I didn't I didn't. It wasn't 1:16:59.240 --> 1:17:00.320 originally my eye idea. 1:17:01.120 --> 1:17:04.439 But so then let me ask you another question. You 1:17:04.600 --> 1:17:08.000 say that you do you have a romantic relationship with 1:17:08.040 --> 1:17:11.080 this person with your co star. Do you feel like 1:17:11.640 --> 1:17:19.080 producing this content together has has it brought an extra 1:17:19.280 --> 1:17:23.760 layer of intimacy to your relationship or do you feel 1:17:23.800 --> 1:17:26.440 it has been detrimental to that intimacy? 1:17:27.520 --> 1:17:27.640 Oh? 1:17:27.720 --> 1:17:32.120 Yeah, that extra layer has been brought, Like definitely, Like 1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:36.840 I'm doing stuff I thought I'd never do, you know, hmm, 1:17:39.439 --> 1:17:41.280 Like I've never put it to in my mouth. 1:17:41.160 --> 1:17:50.280 Until now, Like you know, it sounds like this dynamic 1:17:51.920 --> 1:17:56.160 is a win for you and your partner right now? 1:17:56.760 --> 1:17:57.280 Do you think so? 1:17:59.280 --> 1:18:00.479 That's what it seems to me. 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:01.840 And I. 1:18:03.400 --> 1:18:08.240 Would be I'd be remiss. I'd be lying to you 1:18:09.400 --> 1:18:13.520 if I told you that your fears and your anxieties 1:18:13.640 --> 1:18:20.519 aren't warranted. Not from a standpoint of not from a 1:18:20.640 --> 1:18:23.680 standpoint and let me clarify, because not from a standpoint 1:18:23.720 --> 1:18:29.280 of what other people are going to think about you, 1:18:31.080 --> 1:18:34.760 but because if that is a fear that you have 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:39.160 with what the Internet is and how it exists today, 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:46.840 things happen when you have that. You know what I'm saying, 1:18:46.840 --> 1:18:50.920 if that's something you're afraid of, then maybe reconsidered. But 1:18:51.040 --> 1:18:53.120 if it's not, if it's something that you could be like, 1:18:54.520 --> 1:18:58.599 look at me, so post me. So if it's something 1:18:58.640 --> 1:19:02.400 that you would own and be like, yes, this is 1:19:02.640 --> 1:19:05.120 this is something that I am not ashamed of at all, 1:19:05.640 --> 1:19:07.920 then guess what. There's no fear to be had and 1:19:08.040 --> 1:19:10.680 you can just run off. But I would say that 1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:19.360 I could search through thousands of pages on porn hub 1:19:20.840 --> 1:19:27.680 and never once see anyone that I know, you know 1:19:27.720 --> 1:19:29.360 what I'm saying, or any you know what I mean, 1:19:29.479 --> 1:19:32.000 Like I think you're in there. 1:19:32.040 --> 1:19:33.840 Like I'm just like I'm just because you know, you 1:19:33.920 --> 1:19:36.920 know how like Facebook kind of works like like or 1:19:37.080 --> 1:19:41.800 like not like Instagram. Sometimes you're around somebody been able, pulled, recommended, 1:19:41.920 --> 1:19:47.080 you know, yeah yeah, also you're yeah, like dad need 1:19:47.160 --> 1:19:48.519 some crazy messages something like that. 1:19:48.840 --> 1:19:51.680 You know your kids are going to grow up. I 1:19:51.800 --> 1:19:56.800 believe I feel like the trajectory of society is getting 1:19:56.920 --> 1:20:03.200 more understanding and progressive. I feel like your kids, well, well, 1:20:03.240 --> 1:20:05.479 I don't know. I feel like middle schoolers will eternally 1:20:05.560 --> 1:20:10.640 be horrible, unthinking on empathetic people. But I feel like 1:20:10.720 --> 1:20:13.759 society as a whole it's getting more more progressive, more accepting. 1:20:14.720 --> 1:20:18.960 By the way I was thinking about this, if you don't, 1:20:19.000 --> 1:20:20.479 everyone was like, oh, oh, what if it was your 1:20:20.520 --> 1:20:25.280 mom or if my mom told me today she wanted 1:20:25.320 --> 1:20:26.240 to start doing porn. 1:20:27.040 --> 1:20:29.759 Go ahead, whatever makes you happy. 1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:30.599 I don't give a shit. 1:20:32.240 --> 1:20:39.840 But okay, but but what if your mom did porn 1:20:40.720 --> 1:20:45.439 back in the day, sure, when she was nice age 1:20:45.560 --> 1:20:47.880 or in her mid twenties. If your mom or your 1:20:48.000 --> 1:20:52.080 dad did that and someone brought it to you in 1:20:52.240 --> 1:20:58.400 a way to stab or roast it at you, to 1:20:58.520 --> 1:21:00.760 grade you, how would you feel about this? 1:21:00.880 --> 1:21:03.760 I can under if I'm thirteen, I can understand not 1:21:03.920 --> 1:21:07.360 having the emotional skill set to own it right now. 1:21:09.040 --> 1:21:11.880 If I would own it, I'd be like, yeah, you know, 1:21:12.000 --> 1:21:15.080 I mean, yeah, my mom's a human being. She has 1:21:15.240 --> 1:21:18.720 other facets of her life than just being my mom, right, 1:21:19.080 --> 1:21:24.040 you know? But at thirteen, would I have the emotional 1:21:24.160 --> 1:21:29.920 maturity to really understand that? Probably not. So I understand that. 1:21:30.360 --> 1:21:35.760 But I think that there's a happy medium here now. 1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:38.719 I think that you can keep doing what you're doing 1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:44.200 and keeping this dynamic and the money flowing, but maybe 1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:49.679 throwing a couple more precautionary things maybe don't show faces. 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:52.760 Maybe you do. Maybe maybe you figure out what your 1:21:53.840 --> 1:22:01.160 level of comfortability and anonymity is in this, in this relationship, 1:22:03.080 --> 1:22:05.160 so you don't have to feel like, you know, one 1:22:05.240 --> 1:22:07.439 day you're going to have a twelve year old who 1:22:07.560 --> 1:22:10.360 comes home and got in a fist fight because he's 1:22:11.040 --> 1:22:14.000 defending mom. You know what I mean, Because every every 1:22:14.120 --> 1:22:19.400 twelve year old boy is going to fight over mom 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:22.519 or dad. You know what I mean? Everybody, you know, 1:22:22.760 --> 1:22:25.360 we can't accept we can't expect them to be as 1:22:25.920 --> 1:22:31.120 mature and like l'Os like grown about it. 1:22:31.360 --> 1:22:32.320 Yeah, so. 1:22:34.240 --> 1:22:36.720 When you think about other people, you have to. But 1:22:36.960 --> 1:22:40.080 I also, but your kids don't exist yet, It's true. 1:22:40.520 --> 1:22:42.960 But also I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe this is 1:22:43.000 --> 1:22:45.760 a naive thought. But maybe this is a naive thought, 1:22:45.840 --> 1:22:48.400 but maybe maybe this brings with it. And again I 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:50.679 think you should take your precautions. I think you should, 1:22:50.720 --> 1:22:55.520 if it makes you feel comfortable, wear a giant unicorn 1:22:55.960 --> 1:22:58.360 mask or not showface or whatever it is you got 1:22:58.479 --> 1:22:59.679 to do. But also I could. 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:02.200 See you actually thought about doing some mess like that, 1:23:02.920 --> 1:23:05.760 like putting a ski mask on some like throat like 1:23:05.920 --> 1:23:06.639 thriller stuff. 1:23:06.880 --> 1:23:09.160 You know, I like it. 1:23:09.240 --> 1:23:11.679 I like the ski mask and adds some other sort 1:23:11.720 --> 1:23:17.920 of sort of elements. But also maybe this, maybe this, 1:23:18.200 --> 1:23:20.080 maybe this affords you, and I don't know, maybe this 1:23:20.240 --> 1:23:22.280 is a naive thought, but maybe it affords you an 1:23:22.360 --> 1:23:24.960 opportunity when your kids are thirteen to sit down with 1:23:25.120 --> 1:23:35.080 them and say, listen, your mom and me, we have 1:23:35.240 --> 1:23:39.560 had lives outside of just being your parents and this 1:23:39.760 --> 1:23:43.000 and that, and have that sort of conversation. And maybe 1:23:43.080 --> 1:23:45.760 that does Maybe that does something good for your kid. 1:23:46.120 --> 1:23:48.160 Maybe that grows them up a little bit more than 1:23:48.200 --> 1:23:51.800 their peers. I don't know, but it's it's possible. But 1:23:51.880 --> 1:23:54.040 again I I I agree. I think you should do 1:23:54.120 --> 1:23:56.560 whatever is to your of course, something that they do, 1:23:56.640 --> 1:23:57.760 whatever is to your comfort. 1:23:57.560 --> 1:24:05.240 Level understood, And I thank you for that than needed. 1:24:05.600 --> 1:24:07.760 Of course, thank you so much for calling. No is 1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:09.160 there anything else you want to say before we go? 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:13.680 Hey man, I just want you all to have a 1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:19.599 wonderful year, have a great day tomorrow, Stay safe, don't 1:24:19.680 --> 1:24:25.880 do smoke weed, don't do drugs though through your thing, 1:24:25.960 --> 1:24:29.040 you know, for yourself. And yeah, that's it. 1:24:29.560 --> 1:24:36.599 An thank you for having keeps good, keep fucking. 1:24:36.400 --> 1:24:42.120 All right, all right here, we do that, all right, 1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:48.720 I don't know about you, but I feel so much 1:24:48.760 --> 1:24:54.439 better having pete. I feel loosey goosey right now, Yeah, yeah, 1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:58.080 I feel I feel yeah. 1:24:58.240 --> 1:25:01.400 Yeah. I came back and I was like it. Honestly, 1:25:01.520 --> 1:25:05.719 it felt like there was so much happiness from peeing 1:25:07.920 --> 1:25:11.200 that nis problems. I had to I had to work to. 1:25:12.760 --> 1:25:14.679 Put yourself back into Yeah. 1:25:14.640 --> 1:25:16.840 To recenter not It took a little bit. 1:25:17.240 --> 1:25:21.280 It takes a little It takes a bit to like empathy, 1:25:21.360 --> 1:25:22.800 like you have to. You have to do it sort 1:25:22.800 --> 1:25:27.840 of consciously adjust to how he's feel. 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:29.320 You got a hard job. 1:25:31.360 --> 1:25:35.400 I don't think about the fact that people are listening, 1:25:35.560 --> 1:25:37.679 that people can like when I talk to I don't 1:25:37.720 --> 1:25:40.839 think about the fact that there's like, however many thousand 1:25:40.880 --> 1:25:43.639 people listening, because because if I did, if I really 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:49.080 truly internalize that, I'd be paralyzed. Yeah right right, I'd 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:50.840 be like or I'd just go crazy, or I'd be 1:25:50.920 --> 1:25:55.200 like too afraid say anything, right, because it's vast I 1:25:55.240 --> 1:25:58.200 don't think the human brain can even has the capacity 1:25:58.280 --> 1:26:01.559 to do that, though it's not supposed to do that. There's, 1:26:01.720 --> 1:26:05.439 like I said, this, all the experience of twitch streaming, 1:26:05.560 --> 1:26:09.360 of like parasocially interacting with a check like. 1:26:10.000 --> 1:26:14.800 It goes against every law of God put in place 1:26:15.000 --> 1:26:20.479 to keep us Yes, apes, yes, it's not. He failed, yes, 1:26:21.280 --> 1:26:27.000 miserably to keep whatever virus we are can like contained. 1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:30.720 We're not even supposed to be on like trained like 1:26:30.920 --> 1:26:36.360 fucking subway platforms, let alone the internet. Let alone the Internet. 1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:38.439 I liked. 1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:40.360 I like thinking about that though, because then if like 1:26:41.520 --> 1:26:44.360 if the Internet is making you like depressed or anxious, 1:26:44.400 --> 1:26:49.240 it's like, yeah, of course, it's. 1:26:48.080 --> 1:26:49.560 Literally what it's supposed to do. 1:26:49.800 --> 1:26:54.559 Yeah, it's like you know, that's that's It's the experience 1:26:54.600 --> 1:26:58.120 of twitch streaming is not anything remotely that people should be. 1:26:59.200 --> 1:27:03.040 It blows me away. Yeah, every day I never get 1:27:03.120 --> 1:27:06.680 over any of this. I'm always like. 1:27:06.880 --> 1:27:13.120 Wow, that's what's fun about like calls though, is that 1:27:13.439 --> 1:27:17.000 like it's like that experience, the experience of like having 1:27:17.040 --> 1:27:20.640 a conversation with a person like we're doing right now 1:27:20.760 --> 1:27:26.000 or like we do with the calls, is more digestible 1:27:26.160 --> 1:27:27.559 than like trying to talk to. 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:31.680 This collective of. 1:27:33.600 --> 1:27:36.960 People in a in a well, because I feel like 1:27:37.000 --> 1:27:38.920 I'm talking to them one at a time, right, That's 1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:40.479 how I feel like I is because I don't I 1:27:40.560 --> 1:27:42.240 try to look at the chat when I'm talking on 1:27:42.320 --> 1:27:44.040 the phone, So I feel like I'm talking to chat, 1:27:44.080 --> 1:27:47.679 but just one at a time, the way that supposed 1:27:47.720 --> 1:27:48.519 to talk to each other. 1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:50.920 Yeah. Yeah, it keeps you saying. 1:27:54.760 --> 1:27:55.840 I want to see what's in the queue? 1:27:58.360 --> 1:27:58.599 Hello? 1:27:59.640 --> 1:28:00.439 Hi is us dev? 1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:03.320 Yes? 1:28:03.400 --> 1:28:05.160 This is the dev. 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:06.120 How are you doing? I'm here with. 1:28:07.760 --> 1:28:08.200 On the call. 1:28:08.439 --> 1:28:10.360 You're on you're on the call, you're on the show. 1:28:11.479 --> 1:28:12.040 How do you feel? 1:28:13.880 --> 1:28:14.040 Yo? 1:28:14.400 --> 1:28:15.800 Holy shit, that's so cool? 1:28:17.200 --> 1:28:17.599 What's up? 1:28:18.960 --> 1:28:19.519 Can you hear me? 1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:19.800 Fine? 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:20.960 Hopefully that don't sound weird? 1:28:21.800 --> 1:28:23.200 Yeah, we can hear you. Great? Mm hm. 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:30.080 Cool, awesome. Okay, So I want to know what do 1:28:30.200 --> 1:28:32.840 y'all do whenever y'are like stressed on, like just a 1:28:32.880 --> 1:28:35.920 weird situation and you gotta like put your head back 1:28:35.960 --> 1:28:38.720 in the focus, because man, I get anxious all the time, Like, 1:28:39.680 --> 1:28:42.120 oh dude, I ended up in the er the other 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:44.960 day and they're like, yeah, man, you having a pan attack. 1:28:45.040 --> 1:28:49.439 Go home. I'm like, all right, that'll be a fat 1:28:49.960 --> 1:28:50.559 satin bill. 1:28:52.040 --> 1:28:53.960 Mm hmmm mm hmm. 1:28:55.560 --> 1:28:58.120 What do you typically do when you're when you're anxious? 1:28:58.200 --> 1:28:58.920 Do you have a thing. 1:29:03.280 --> 1:29:06.880 I wish I could I wish I could say that 1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:11.360 I did you know, there's a multitude of things that 1:29:11.479 --> 1:29:17.759 I can try, but nothing really works besides just sitting 1:29:19.400 --> 1:29:25.519 and trying to breathe and just work through it. 1:29:25.760 --> 1:29:26.360 You know what I mean? 1:29:27.000 --> 1:29:31.560 Because I get anxious, fuck like social anxiety. Like I 1:29:31.680 --> 1:29:38.440 picked the worst possible career stand up to have anxiety 1:29:38.520 --> 1:29:44.479 with just why just performing period? It's nerve wracking, it 1:29:44.600 --> 1:29:50.120 can it can kill you see to early grades. But 1:29:50.240 --> 1:29:53.000 I don't know, man, I think you just gotta be 1:29:53.160 --> 1:29:58.799 like Hella, in tune with when it's about to happen 1:30:02.040 --> 1:30:07.400 and have your own personal whatever your language is to 1:30:07.520 --> 1:30:10.439 deal with that ship. Some people are like they need 1:30:10.680 --> 1:30:13.320 they gotta be on ZNAX or they gotta be on 1:30:13.439 --> 1:30:16.600 something that that was a mount I choose to. I 1:30:16.680 --> 1:30:21.360 have ADHD. Yeah, I just take because at the ADHD 1:30:21.520 --> 1:30:26.080 funks with my anxiety. Yeah, so I take Omegas fish oil. 1:30:26.280 --> 1:30:27.200 Yeah, heard about that. 1:30:27.320 --> 1:30:29.519 You know what I'm saying, e Pa fish oil, and 1:30:29.680 --> 1:30:33.040 that's like, that's like brain loop. So I would suggest 1:30:33.160 --> 1:30:36.599 doing some of that ship. Get you some fish oil, megas, 1:30:37.400 --> 1:30:40.439 get a find a good brand, go on Reddit and 1:30:40.640 --> 1:30:43.759 find out who got the good ass fish oil. Because 1:30:44.840 --> 1:30:46.800 I don't know, do you do you take medication for 1:30:47.000 --> 1:30:47.439 or do you not? 1:30:49.880 --> 1:30:52.920 Yeah, I'm I'm on like three medications and take two 1:30:53.000 --> 1:30:58.360 into depressants and it takes well. Now to anxiety medications. Okay, okay, 1:30:58.560 --> 1:31:00.600 I got that super depression of super. 1:31:00.600 --> 1:31:05.400 D I feel that. I feel you. I feel you. Yeah, yeah, man, 1:31:06.840 --> 1:31:09.120 I salute you, dog. I salute you just for being 1:31:09.200 --> 1:31:14.120 honest about it and talking about like for real, for real, 1:31:14.840 --> 1:31:16.840 like everybody got their own little what do you do? 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:23.599 I'm fucking I'm a college student and I fucking work, 1:31:24.160 --> 1:31:25.920 and I'm also in the middle of trying to figure 1:31:25.960 --> 1:31:28.040 out what I'm doing in my life because like I 1:31:28.160 --> 1:31:31.360 thought I had a plan and I was doing everything 1:31:31.439 --> 1:31:36.080 for it, and then I fucking got into nursing school 1:31:36.120 --> 1:31:38.439 and then I got kicked out before school even started, 1:31:38.479 --> 1:31:40.120 and I was like, okay, well, I don't know before 1:31:40.120 --> 1:31:43.360 I'm gonna do. I'm fuck, dude, in twenty four I 1:31:43.479 --> 1:31:46.040 still don't have a degree or like a path that 1:31:46.120 --> 1:31:48.439 I'm like falling to. I just take random ass classes 1:31:48.479 --> 1:31:50.559 every single mm hmmm. 1:31:52.080 --> 1:31:53.559 How's your how's your diet? 1:31:57.000 --> 1:32:01.280 But let's just ask. But because of the scare that 1:32:01.360 --> 1:32:04.000 I had the other day when I went to the er, 1:32:04.400 --> 1:32:06.600 I've been like working out every day since then, and 1:32:06.680 --> 1:32:09.679 I'm like, I'm trying to get that ship on point. Yeah, 1:32:09.800 --> 1:32:11.680 because I'm like, you know what, No, that ship was 1:32:11.720 --> 1:32:13.800 way too scary. I'm going to fix this ship. 1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:15.400 Yeah. 1:32:16.040 --> 1:32:20.920 Yeah, you know it's a workout, Yeah, don't. It definitely is. 1:32:21.120 --> 1:32:27.680 It's not a complete fix, but definitely exercise and eating right. 1:32:27.800 --> 1:32:32.960 When I say eating right, you already know what I'm saying, Like, bitch, 1:32:33.000 --> 1:32:36.960 I eat them Taco bell wings the other day and 1:32:38.520 --> 1:32:41.679 I'm telling how it was. It was awful, but also 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:46.120 your body, like eventually it's gonna start punishing you for that. 1:32:46.280 --> 1:32:47.640 You know you what's that? 1:32:48.160 --> 1:32:48.320 You know? 1:32:48.439 --> 1:32:51.400 You make all the fucking happy chemicals in your stomach? 1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:54.840 Did you say Taco bell wings? Did? 1:32:56.720 --> 1:32:56.960 Yeah? 1:32:57.479 --> 1:32:57.800 That thing? 1:32:58.520 --> 1:32:58.760 It is? 1:32:59.000 --> 1:33:01.880 It is, And I would I would listen, go on 1:33:02.000 --> 1:33:05.640 your own adventure, but I would not recommend it. 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:09.479 You said that all of a lot of our happy 1:33:09.560 --> 1:33:10.879 chemicals are made in our stomach. 1:33:11.160 --> 1:33:11.360 Yeah. 1:33:12.680 --> 1:33:23.519 I I I consistently under under whatever it is, the 1:33:24.000 --> 1:33:28.200 underestimate the effect of my diet on my mood. I'm 1:33:28.240 --> 1:33:31.560 always you always think it's like something external and it's like, 1:33:31.680 --> 1:33:34.879 oh wait, I've just been eating a bunch of horrible 1:33:35.000 --> 1:33:36.080 things all the time. 1:33:36.479 --> 1:33:38.400 I've been eating a bunch of bad shit. And like 1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:41.479 my shirt was too wrinkled, you know. 1:33:41.479 --> 1:33:41.880 What I mean. 1:33:42.560 --> 1:33:45.120 It'll be it sometimes it will be and like you know, 1:33:45.520 --> 1:33:48.320 people will like clinical ship. You can never I would 1:33:48.320 --> 1:33:52.320 never tell somebody who's clinically depressed or anxious or whatever 1:33:52.360 --> 1:33:56.360 they're like, oh, switching to the plant based it's gonna fix. 1:33:57.280 --> 1:33:59.400 It's gonna fix you forever. You know what I mean. 1:33:59.479 --> 1:34:05.160 Nothing is a fix, but would it maybe help you tremendously. 1:34:05.720 --> 1:34:09.160 I don't know. It's worth the shot. It's worth a shot. 1:34:10.960 --> 1:34:13.719 It's worth the shot, and you won't get cancer. 1:34:16.720 --> 1:34:20.519 You said that, which is funny because like everybody, what's 1:34:20.560 --> 1:34:25.400 not funny? Everybody in my family gets cancer. No cap. 1:34:26.760 --> 1:34:30.000 Real quick kind of to tap this into something we 1:34:30.080 --> 1:34:36.519 were talking earlier, what is it that you ultimately Okay, 1:34:36.520 --> 1:34:38.600 when we were talking earlier about like the germ of 1:34:38.680 --> 1:34:42.040 the idea versus the actual thing that you want to do, right, 1:34:42.080 --> 1:34:45.519 so like your actual like narrow path is like okay, 1:34:45.520 --> 1:34:47.640 I want to be a nurse, but like what what 1:34:47.880 --> 1:34:49.680 is it what is beneath that? Like, is it that 1:34:49.760 --> 1:34:54.000 you want to help people? Is it that what what's 1:34:54.080 --> 1:34:57.880 what's under what's underneath that, like, what's the what's the 1:34:58.000 --> 1:34:59.920 core desire that we're working with here? 1:35:02.560 --> 1:35:05.160 For sure? So I know a lot of people want 1:35:05.200 --> 1:35:07.120 to go into nursing. They're like, oh, I want to 1:35:07.200 --> 1:35:09.760 help people. I'm like, that's bullshit, No you don't. You 1:35:09.840 --> 1:35:12.760 just want it because it's decent money and all this 1:35:12.880 --> 1:35:15.840 other stuff. But when I was in high school, I 1:35:15.920 --> 1:35:18.240 saw this movie called Patch. I don't I feel like 1:35:18.320 --> 1:35:24.040 familiar with it. Ye okay, So that made me want 1:35:24.080 --> 1:35:26.360 to just go into the medical field. I don't care 1:35:26.400 --> 1:35:28.400 what it was. I just actually wanted to help people 1:35:28.400 --> 1:35:31.360 because like I wanted to do something like some shit 1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:34.800 like that. So originally I was like, you know what, 1:35:35.000 --> 1:35:36.560 I'm gonna get out of school. I'm gonna go to 1:35:36.640 --> 1:35:38.040 med school and I'm gonna do all this shit and 1:35:38.080 --> 1:35:39.360 I try to figure out a way to do this, 1:35:40.400 --> 1:35:42.519 and then I realized I'm dumb as fuck. I can't 1:35:42.600 --> 1:35:44.680 do that. So I'm gonna do nursing and still try 1:35:44.720 --> 1:35:48.240 to make an impact because like, at the end of 1:35:48.280 --> 1:35:52.200 the day, I genuinely want to help people. It's like 1:35:52.560 --> 1:35:54.439 at that point, I don't care about the money, you know, 1:35:54.520 --> 1:35:56.880 I've been broke. I was broke when I was born, 1:35:57.439 --> 1:36:01.160 poor girling up still technically road of shit. At least 1:36:01.160 --> 1:36:04.200 I got a job now though, so it's like fuck 1:36:04.280 --> 1:36:06.160 the money. I get a lot on toys from like 1:36:06.240 --> 1:36:08.840 helping people with whatever it may be. That's why I 1:36:08.920 --> 1:36:10.439 want to be a nurse. But then I got into 1:36:10.520 --> 1:36:14.920 like psychology and like microbiology and like other ways you 1:36:14.960 --> 1:36:17.040 can help people in those rooms as well, and it's 1:36:17.080 --> 1:36:18.560 like I don't know what the fuck to do. 1:36:19.520 --> 1:36:19.840 I'm just. 1:36:21.520 --> 1:36:23.719 I do want to help people, that's my mangel. 1:36:25.560 --> 1:36:25.880 Hmmm. 1:36:28.960 --> 1:36:33.760 Have you explored just like in a in maybe a 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:41.000 brainstorm exercise or anything like that, Like because you said 1:36:41.000 --> 1:36:43.160 you got kicked out of nursing school, and I don't 1:36:43.160 --> 1:36:44.519 know if you I don't know if that means that 1:36:44.600 --> 1:36:47.840 you don't want to be a nurse anymore, if you 1:36:48.000 --> 1:36:50.639 can't be a nurse anymore, but like, have you really 1:36:50.760 --> 1:36:55.759 sat down to like think about all the various ways 1:36:56.479 --> 1:36:58.800 that would be interesting to you in which you could 1:36:58.840 --> 1:37:02.200 help people that aren't just yeah. 1:37:02.320 --> 1:37:04.360 And that's where I get stuck because they're like I 1:37:04.439 --> 1:37:06.720 want to do this and that, and then I also 1:37:06.800 --> 1:37:09.519 want to do this another thing, and then another thing, 1:37:09.560 --> 1:37:12.160 and then I end up enjoying more stuff. And because 1:37:12.200 --> 1:37:14.519 like another thing that happened, I started reading a lot 1:37:14.600 --> 1:37:18.680 when I got kicked out of nursing school, and that 1:37:18.840 --> 1:37:23.240 got me into like a neurology, psychology, microbiology. Then I 1:37:23.280 --> 1:37:25.400 took a microbiology course and I was like, Oh, this 1:37:25.439 --> 1:37:28.439 shit's cool, like learning about virology and ichnology and all 1:37:28.479 --> 1:37:31.559 that other shit. And I was like, there's so many 1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:33.400 ways to help people, but I don't know what they'll 1:37:33.520 --> 1:37:34.240 fuck to chose. 1:37:34.960 --> 1:37:42.320 Mmmm, here's what. And I don't you know, I'm picking 1:37:42.400 --> 1:37:48.960 my words carefully, but I do feel like we kind 1:37:49.000 --> 1:37:52.360 of got on this topic earlier. And I do feel like, 1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:59.479 you know, once you pick a thing and you go 1:37:59.680 --> 1:38:06.200 along the road with that thing and figure out what 1:38:06.360 --> 1:38:08.360 you like about it and what you dislike about it, 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:14.080 you can always switch out of that thing. But picking 1:38:14.240 --> 1:38:18.200 that thing and just going at it with everything that 1:38:18.320 --> 1:38:22.400 you got, you're gonna figure out how you help people 1:38:22.760 --> 1:38:26.040 within that world. You know what I'm saying. You might 1:38:26.120 --> 1:38:30.400 not a motherfucker might not think, oh, I can help 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:36.320 people by going into XYZ, by going into construction. Yes, yeah, 1:38:36.360 --> 1:38:40.360 you know what I'm saying. But if you just traveled 1:38:40.640 --> 1:38:43.880 far enough down the road of being a motherfucker who 1:38:43.960 --> 1:38:48.519 lays bricks and drills the sidewalk, and then ten years 1:38:48.600 --> 1:38:50.800 from then you don't know where you're gonna land. It 1:38:50.880 --> 1:38:54.080 might not be in construction or whatever. But I think, 1:38:55.280 --> 1:38:57.439 and I might be wrong, you know what I mean. 1:38:58.280 --> 1:39:02.479 I'm always wrong is wrong or right sometimes. But I 1:39:02.560 --> 1:39:04.760 think if you pick something and you just go at it, 1:39:06.120 --> 1:39:08.840 you'll figure out how to help people with it. And 1:39:08.960 --> 1:39:13.600 I think that that's like the most human shit is 1:39:13.640 --> 1:39:17.840 that everybody's like, Okay, I got a pencil, a paper clip, 1:39:19.240 --> 1:39:22.439 clinical depression, I got kicked out of school, and I 1:39:22.520 --> 1:39:24.559 got a car. How the fuck do I help people 1:39:25.439 --> 1:39:28.240 with with? And you think you have nothing because it 1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:33.439 looks like you ain't got shit, But motherfucker deal with that. 1:39:34.040 --> 1:39:37.360 Like go with that and help you. You know what 1:39:37.400 --> 1:39:42.840 I'm saying, Get smarter, get better. I don't know what 1:39:43.360 --> 1:39:44.920 what can you do with what you have? What can 1:39:44.960 --> 1:39:46.760 you do what the fuck you got right now? 1:39:47.000 --> 1:39:49.880 Like like why do you need a fancy Why do 1:39:49.920 --> 1:39:51.960 you need a fucking fancy nursing degree? Why do you 1:39:52.040 --> 1:39:54.000 need all the things that society says you need to 1:39:54.040 --> 1:39:57.000 help people? What can you do because you want to, Like, 1:39:57.240 --> 1:40:00.280 I like, we all want to help people. If if 1:40:00.360 --> 1:40:02.240 me and Law wanted to go, if we wanted to 1:40:02.280 --> 1:40:03.200 help people right. 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:06.519 Now outside of you know, talking to y'all and talking 1:40:06.560 --> 1:40:10.160 to people, we could go outside right now, and it's 1:40:10.200 --> 1:40:13.880 people intents across the street who are probably like, man, 1:40:14.040 --> 1:40:16.560 I could really use a new pair of shoes or 1:40:16.600 --> 1:40:20.679 a sandwich or a tampon. I really hope somebody comes 1:40:20.680 --> 1:40:23.360 along with a sandwich, a new shirt or a tampa. 1:40:23.400 --> 1:40:28.800 You could always help people. It's everywhere. It's everywhere all 1:40:28.840 --> 1:40:32.760 the time, Like, go outside right now, and and and 1:40:32.960 --> 1:40:35.160 just look and just look, go outside right now, look 1:40:35.200 --> 1:40:38.280 to your left, and you're right, somebody need help. So 1:40:39.280 --> 1:40:41.200 is it that you want to start there or do 1:40:41.360 --> 1:40:45.280 you want to start with you? And I don't know. 1:40:45.479 --> 1:40:48.320 Both of those answers seem correct. 1:40:49.800 --> 1:40:50.839 No, I absolutely understand. 1:40:50.960 --> 1:40:53.759 I'm just a drunk nigga in a fucking gecko costume. 1:40:56.840 --> 1:40:57.240 Do you what do you? 1:40:57.280 --> 1:40:57.720 What do you think? 1:41:00.800 --> 1:41:04.280 What do you like? Sort of sort of to kind 1:41:04.320 --> 1:41:06.840 of like you, I mean, what do you what do you? 1:41:06.920 --> 1:41:09.519 What do you think about that? The fact that you 1:41:10.280 --> 1:41:12.719 like thinking about what definitely true. 1:41:13.160 --> 1:41:18.439 Cool Because I met back when I used to work 1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:22.040 in the coffee industry. I worked at this shop and 1:41:22.400 --> 1:41:24.800 this guy came in and he was a nurse, but 1:41:24.960 --> 1:41:27.160 he dropped that or he quit his a nursing job 1:41:27.240 --> 1:41:32.320 to go to medical school. And before that, when he 1:41:32.479 --> 1:41:34.320 was in school, he did a lot of work with 1:41:34.800 --> 1:41:37.960 the homeless population in Dallas. So he was like a 1:41:38.680 --> 1:41:40.600 manager of a suit pation in some all all this 1:41:40.720 --> 1:41:43.519 other stuff and something that happened to him when he 1:41:43.600 --> 1:41:46.040 was a nurse. He had a patient down from the homeless, 1:41:46.040 --> 1:41:48.240 and he was like, if I would have been a doctor, 1:41:48.240 --> 1:41:50.680 I would have more control over that situation and I 1:41:50.720 --> 1:41:53.160 can'll probably save the patient. And that's what made him 1:41:53.200 --> 1:41:58.799 do that. And that's where I'm like, damn, I understand 1:41:59.160 --> 1:42:01.000 in that too. So it's just an extent that like 1:42:01.040 --> 1:42:04.479 I want to have the ability to affect people in 1:42:05.000 --> 1:42:08.479 a certain way because in another way, like another thing 1:42:08.560 --> 1:42:11.680 that pushes me towards like the science field and doing 1:42:11.760 --> 1:42:15.880 ship like that. Like I also hate like misinformation and 1:42:15.960 --> 1:42:18.760 medical misinformation like the past few years have been like 1:42:19.120 --> 1:42:23.680 blown out of that. Right, hate when people prey on 1:42:23.960 --> 1:42:28.800 people's fear essentially, and I'm like, you're feeding people's fear 1:42:28.880 --> 1:42:32.840 with misinformation and delaying them probably getting like proper attention 1:42:33.000 --> 1:42:37.439 that they need. And I want to That's why I 1:42:37.520 --> 1:42:39.680 want to finish school, because I want the credentials to 1:42:39.720 --> 1:42:42.479 be able to back that information up with whatever I'm doing. 1:42:44.640 --> 1:42:48.280 Yeah, that's legit. 1:42:48.600 --> 1:42:52.680 Well, I think sort of like the the thesis of 1:42:52.720 --> 1:42:54.200 a lot of shit that we've been talking about tonight 1:42:54.439 --> 1:42:58.360 is that again, like, it's great that you have these 1:42:58.640 --> 1:43:03.320 these higher so to speak, desires of like grander ways 1:43:03.360 --> 1:43:07.000 that you can help people once, once you're accredited, once 1:43:07.280 --> 1:43:10.840 you're in exposition, once you're in why position, and that's 1:43:10.840 --> 1:43:17.240 great to have. But simultaneously, don't waite out. Don't be 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:20.120 like I can only do this when I have these 1:43:20.240 --> 1:43:27.040 when I get there. Simultaneously aspire to that while being 1:43:27.080 --> 1:43:30.519 able to live in the moment of as you, as 1:43:30.720 --> 1:43:32.800 as Zach was saying, doing what you can with what 1:43:32.920 --> 1:43:33.160 you have. 1:43:34.880 --> 1:43:36.599 I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you a story. 1:43:38.640 --> 1:43:41.800 This is a very this this story is what I 1:43:41.840 --> 1:43:47.280 would call a parable. It ain't it ain't useful in 1:43:47.600 --> 1:43:51.040 that defect of like that the facts aren't gonna help 1:43:51.080 --> 1:43:54.719 you figure anything out. But maybe in relating this story 1:43:55.479 --> 1:43:57.760 it'll get across with me and all I'll trying to say. 1:43:59.040 --> 1:44:02.680 So when I was twenty, I had just I was 1:44:02.760 --> 1:44:04.439 twenty or twenty one, I had just dropped out of 1:44:04.560 --> 1:44:07.960 art school, right, Me and one of my best friends 1:44:08.000 --> 1:44:11.120 in the world, Muhammad, were like, shit, we ain't got 1:44:11.200 --> 1:44:14.960 nothing to do today, Let's do some acid. So we 1:44:15.080 --> 1:44:18.479 do this acid and were drinking getting fucked up. It's 1:44:18.600 --> 1:44:22.560 like two am, right, we're doing all this shit. You know, 1:44:22.720 --> 1:44:26.920 acid is you up? So we're up at the ass 1:44:27.040 --> 1:44:30.639 crack of dawn talking and we're sitting on my porch 1:44:30.720 --> 1:44:34.519 and we're talking about exactly this. We're talking about how 1:44:35.560 --> 1:44:37.439 you know, because when y're all asking, you all sensitive 1:44:37.479 --> 1:44:39.320 and shit. We're talking about how, like, man like, the 1:44:39.439 --> 1:44:42.920 point of life is to help people. The point of 1:44:43.000 --> 1:44:45.040 life is to help people, and how do you get there? 1:44:45.560 --> 1:44:48.080 But if you don't have money, you can't help. And 1:44:48.160 --> 1:44:51.080 it's the haves and the have nots and capitalism and 1:44:51.439 --> 1:44:54.840 hierarchy and blah blah, and Mark said this, and by 1:44:55.040 --> 1:44:58.400 we're getting all deep and esoterical and saying all this 1:44:58.520 --> 1:45:00.920 shit about how we we want to help people. Right, 1:45:01.400 --> 1:45:04.040 So we're like, yo, we're hungry. We're talking about the 1:45:04.080 --> 1:45:07.240 same shit in the car were driving. We get to 1:45:07.320 --> 1:45:12.479 this intersection and there's a car blocking the whole fucking intersection. 1:45:12.560 --> 1:45:14.920 We were riding around Atlanta trying to go to McDonald's 1:45:14.960 --> 1:45:18.440 to get the breakfast. It's a car blocking the fucking intersection. 1:45:19.040 --> 1:45:21.840 So mohammed honking. He like, bro, get the fuck out 1:45:21.880 --> 1:45:24.680 the way, get out the intersection. We go around the 1:45:24.720 --> 1:45:26.519 car anyway, We get back to talking about it. We 1:45:26.600 --> 1:45:29.679 get to McDonald's, get the breakfast, get the hash browns 1:45:29.720 --> 1:45:35.400 as delicious as fuck. We come back the same route 1:45:35.520 --> 1:45:39.000 to go back to my apartment. We get back to 1:45:39.040 --> 1:45:43.400 where that car was at the intersection. We just did 1:45:43.479 --> 1:45:46.559 all this talking about helping people, and what do we see. 1:45:47.600 --> 1:45:53.160 We see four people, two in the back, two on 1:45:53.920 --> 1:45:57.880 passenger side and driver's side door helping that poor motherfucker 1:45:58.000 --> 1:46:03.479 push his car out of the intersection because we thought 1:46:03.560 --> 1:46:07.839 he was being a dickhead taking up space in the intersection. 1:46:08.000 --> 1:46:11.080 His car broke down at seven am in the morning 1:46:11.240 --> 1:46:15.479 on the way to work in Atlanta, and four other 1:46:15.600 --> 1:46:20.120 people got to the jump before we did because we 1:46:20.280 --> 1:46:25.240 was too busy talking to talk instead of walking it. Yeah, 1:46:25.800 --> 1:46:29.120 and now that motherfucker had somebody help him who wasn't 1:46:29.479 --> 1:46:32.719 you know what I'm saying, Like, it's right in front 1:46:32.760 --> 1:46:34.400 of you, bro, Most of the time, it's right in 1:46:34.479 --> 1:46:37.320 front of you. And it's not going to fix your life. 1:46:37.360 --> 1:46:38.960 It's not going to figure out your depression. It's not 1:46:38.960 --> 1:46:40.320 gonna figure out your life path. 1:46:40.439 --> 1:46:40.720 But like. 1:46:42.479 --> 1:46:47.160 Nigga, helping people is always freely available in in abundance, 1:46:47.720 --> 1:46:50.559 And while you sitting talking thinking about it, it's probably 1:46:50.640 --> 1:46:53.920 somebody sitting next to you that you could do that 1:46:54.040 --> 1:46:57.559 shit and help them out, and boom, now you're enriched 1:46:58.600 --> 1:47:00.800 and you feel like you got more fuel to figure 1:47:00.840 --> 1:47:03.400 your ship out. You know what I'm saying, Like that 1:47:03.720 --> 1:47:05.120 that story sticks in my head. 1:47:04.960 --> 1:47:08.200 Forever, that that gives me a lot to think about it, 1:47:09.800 --> 1:47:12.920 like forever, bro, Yeah, because because I feel like, I mean, 1:47:13.000 --> 1:47:14.880 my whole thing is like talking about all this ship 1:47:14.920 --> 1:47:16.880 and I'm like, when in my life am I like 1:47:17.840 --> 1:47:20.679 thinking and talking about helping people, But like there's something 1:47:20.760 --> 1:47:23.240 right in front of my fucking face that I'm bro ignoring. 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:29.200 It's because it's this veneer that we all got and 1:47:29.280 --> 1:47:32.800 you gotta like act every day. It's like, and that's 1:47:32.840 --> 1:47:35.479 why you know, I fuck with psychedelics, Like shrooms and 1:47:35.520 --> 1:47:37.920 acid because it tears that veneer down a little bit 1:47:38.640 --> 1:47:40.559 and you can get to the nitty radio. What we're 1:47:40.560 --> 1:47:42.960 all trying to say was just like how do I 1:47:43.560 --> 1:47:46.519 how do I help? And that story bro that ship. 1:47:46.560 --> 1:47:48.720 When I tell you we was in the car, we 1:47:48.840 --> 1:47:51.160 got to that intersection, saw them up for getting helped, 1:47:51.560 --> 1:47:55.720 and we stayed quiet for the rest of the day. 1:47:56.120 --> 1:47:58.040 We hung out that whole day. We were both broke, 1:47:58.200 --> 1:47:59.880 no job. We hung out the rest of that day 1:47:59.920 --> 1:48:04.599 and we just sat there and we're like, Wow, I'm 1:48:04.640 --> 1:48:07.760 not superstitious, but that day I felt like God, the 1:48:07.880 --> 1:48:12.559 universe of whoever like was like, oh you want did 1:48:12.560 --> 1:48:14.439 you want to talk about here? Here? 1:48:14.640 --> 1:48:14.800 Here? 1:48:14.840 --> 1:48:17.120 It is here, it is here, it is He missed 1:48:17.120 --> 1:48:22.160 it and it's like, yeah, it's pushing somebody's car off 1:48:22.400 --> 1:48:26.120 the intersection, like doing the work of fucking. 1:48:27.360 --> 1:48:28.960 You know, Martin Luther? 1:48:29.120 --> 1:48:29.880 Is it Martin Luther? 1:48:30.000 --> 1:48:30.120 King? 1:48:30.800 --> 1:48:31.880 Something right? 1:48:32.040 --> 1:48:35.800 It's right, something, it's something right, there's something whereas we're 1:48:35.800 --> 1:48:38.120 getting all caught up and like, oh, I'm gonna do 1:48:38.240 --> 1:48:40.000 this big grand thing. I'm gonna do that big grand 1:48:40.080 --> 1:48:41.840 it's like what it's what's right in front of your face? 1:48:42.240 --> 1:48:45.040 You're missing. That's give me bro. 1:48:45.560 --> 1:48:48.320 I still think it like, I'm like, we all babies, 1:48:48.479 --> 1:48:55.519 so you know you got just yeah, but I'm drunk. 1:48:55.680 --> 1:48:57.600 So that was that was that was. 1:48:57.720 --> 1:48:59.880 That was a great story. That's giving me a lot 1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:04.760 to I have to think about myself with like the 1:49:05.960 --> 1:49:09.280 the ways in which I can help that I'm ignoring. 1:49:11.160 --> 1:49:11.400 Dev. 1:49:13.760 --> 1:49:14.400 Are you still there? 1:49:16.720 --> 1:49:16.880 Yep? 1:49:17.040 --> 1:49:17.320 Story? 1:49:17.400 --> 1:49:17.559 Yeah? 1:49:18.479 --> 1:49:18.719 Dev? 1:49:20.360 --> 1:49:23.040 Do you have any final thoughts, feelings, sentiments that you 1:49:23.080 --> 1:49:23.639 wish to share? 1:49:26.320 --> 1:49:26.439 Uh? 1:49:26.640 --> 1:49:29.920 Yeah, Zach, thanks for sharing that. I really appreciate it. 1:49:30.439 --> 1:49:32.560 I was actually gonna go see you in Houston, but 1:49:32.640 --> 1:49:34.639 then the show got camped with the COVID I believe, 1:49:35.200 --> 1:49:39.000 And yeah, thank you so much for having this platform 1:49:39.080 --> 1:49:41.120 and doing what you do. I fucking listen to your 1:49:41.160 --> 1:49:43.240 podcast all the time because sometimes I can't stay up 1:49:43.320 --> 1:49:45.439 long enough to watch the streams or something. And I 1:49:45.520 --> 1:49:47.920 used to watch, like listen to that shit on my 1:49:48.000 --> 1:49:50.920 old job, which was like thirty minutes from my house. 1:49:50.960 --> 1:49:53.880 I would drive from there home and to and from 1:49:54.000 --> 1:49:55.880 Basically I would listen to should and laugh my ass 1:49:55.960 --> 1:49:59.160 off on like the worst day exactly. Man, all your stuff, 1:49:59.240 --> 1:50:04.679 fucking hip many white you know, all that ship also 1:50:05.760 --> 1:50:09.000 talking to me all that ship. I love both y'lsome. 1:50:09.080 --> 1:50:11.479 I was like super ecstatic to be able to talk 1:50:11.520 --> 1:50:12.760 to you so much. 1:50:13.200 --> 1:50:15.160 You have a good rest of the night. 1:50:17.280 --> 1:50:17.960 Thank you you too. 1:50:19.280 --> 1:50:23.439 Can I ask you some and I've had? What do 1:50:23.520 --> 1:50:28.120 you do you think? Do you think comedians like people 1:50:28.160 --> 1:50:30.880 who make art? Do you think that's a form of 1:50:30.960 --> 1:50:33.400 helping people? Because I'm in my head back and forth, 1:50:33.479 --> 1:50:36.720 and I'm like, I'm in my head back and forth, 1:50:36.760 --> 1:50:39.479 and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if 1:50:39.520 --> 1:50:42.080 it is because there's because because with making art and 1:50:42.120 --> 1:50:45.000 making stuff, there there is like a fair amount of 1:50:45.080 --> 1:50:51.360 like unavoidable ego attached to it, I think. But but 1:50:51.520 --> 1:50:55.280 also I think in my life about like songs, I 1:50:55.400 --> 1:50:58.840 really like podcasts, I really like books, I really like 1:50:59.400 --> 1:51:01.560 and I and I would say that those things have 1:51:01.840 --> 1:51:05.880 like helped me. But then if I but then I 1:51:06.560 --> 1:51:10.800 couldn't accept Like when people tell me that like I 1:51:11.040 --> 1:51:14.679 help them like with this, I don't think I can't 1:51:14.920 --> 1:51:22.439 really accept it because there is so much like you 1:51:22.560 --> 1:51:23.800 feel like you. 1:51:24.080 --> 1:51:31.680 Do you feel like you're getting off too easy. If 1:51:31.720 --> 1:51:34.640 someone says that to you, maybe. 1:51:33.920 --> 1:51:36.720 It's maybe it's getting off too easy. I mean, like 1:51:38.800 --> 1:51:40.559 I don't know, have you gotten that about like your 1:51:40.880 --> 1:51:42.439 music or yeah? 1:51:42.560 --> 1:51:44.000 You know I've had people say, oh, you helped me 1:51:44.080 --> 1:51:45.680 do this, and yeah, help me do that. 1:51:46.040 --> 1:51:46.240 Yeah. 1:51:46.640 --> 1:51:49.720 I feel that way about certain comics and musicians too. 1:51:51.960 --> 1:51:56.240 But in the grand scheme, I guess it's a question 1:51:56.360 --> 1:52:03.519 of scale. Sure, you know what's the scale? What is 1:52:03.600 --> 1:52:05.519 the true scale that comedy can help people? 1:52:06.200 --> 1:52:07.559 I don't know where does it end? 1:52:07.600 --> 1:52:10.439 Where is it not? Because I'd be lying if I said, oh, 1:52:10.880 --> 1:52:16.360 you know, yeah, fucking Patrise O'Neil or Martin Lawrence or 1:52:18.280 --> 1:52:21.280 whoever didn't help me through a time? 1:52:21.479 --> 1:52:21.719 Yeah? 1:52:21.880 --> 1:52:27.840 Yeah, but did they help me find love? Did they 1:52:27.880 --> 1:52:30.120 help me? They helped me get a job? Do they 1:52:30.200 --> 1:52:30.519 help it? 1:52:31.040 --> 1:52:34.599 But then like, but then like to have helped, does 1:52:34.680 --> 1:52:39.120 it need to be like some grand can can like 1:52:39.439 --> 1:52:44.120 a four minute YouTube video of like some comedian or 1:52:44.160 --> 1:52:47.920 some song like that made you enjoy those four minutes? 1:52:48.000 --> 1:52:50.599 Can that be a form of help even though it's 1:52:50.640 --> 1:52:54.000 not like someone even though it's not like such a 1:52:54.680 --> 1:52:56.639 grand even though even if it's not a grand thing, 1:52:57.640 --> 1:53:00.479 is that sort of what even we were just talking about, 1:53:00.760 --> 1:53:02.160 when like, does it have to be a grand thing? 1:53:02.200 --> 1:53:05.000 I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think 1:53:05.040 --> 1:53:07.920 it does. I think that's another you know what I 1:53:08.000 --> 1:53:12.040 think that is. I think it's another byproduct of where 1:53:12.120 --> 1:53:18.400 we at right now, is that we're not even supposed 1:53:18.439 --> 1:53:21.680 to be talking to each other, like you know what 1:53:21.760 --> 1:53:25.840 I mean, Like like the internet plays so much burden 1:53:25.960 --> 1:53:29.760 on us, and you get to see so many problems 1:53:29.840 --> 1:53:33.840 every day, and it overloads your brain, and it's like, 1:53:34.000 --> 1:53:35.920 I think you should be aware of what's going on. 1:53:36.240 --> 1:53:38.920 It shouldn't be ignorant. But at a certain point you 1:53:39.000 --> 1:53:45.639 gotta be like nigga, I make bread. I'm a baker, 1:53:47.360 --> 1:53:49.000 and here's how I'm gonna help people that I'm gonna 1:53:49.000 --> 1:53:51.680 make a ficasha. Yes, and I'm gonna make that I'm 1:53:51.720 --> 1:53:54.640 gonna make the ship out of that fikausha or I'm 1:53:54.640 --> 1:53:57.200 gonna deliver the ship out of this pizza or whatever 1:53:57.320 --> 1:54:01.040 it is. Yeah, Because if all you learned how to 1:54:01.120 --> 1:54:07.920 do is make bread, I don't know if you should 1:54:08.000 --> 1:54:13.960 be walking around every day burdening yourself with the world's 1:54:14.000 --> 1:54:20.680 problems because niggas need sandwiches and you're the part of 1:54:20.800 --> 1:54:22.440 the process that makes. 1:54:22.560 --> 1:54:24.400 Yeah, you know what you can with what you have 1:54:25.640 --> 1:54:26.760 if you make bread, that's what you have. 1:54:28.520 --> 1:54:28.760 Bread. 1:54:28.960 --> 1:54:32.400 I don't know, not to be, I don't know, I 1:54:32.480 --> 1:54:32.760 don't know. 1:54:33.080 --> 1:54:37.280 I think about this well because now we like you 1:54:37.400 --> 1:54:40.160 can't feasibly count on yourself to solve all of the 1:54:40.240 --> 1:54:44.880 world's problems all the time. But but you can, like 1:54:44.960 --> 1:54:46.560 you can pick. If you pick and choose, I think 1:54:46.680 --> 1:54:51.560 it's like a tackle able amount of problems. You can. 1:54:52.520 --> 1:54:53.120 You do something. 1:54:53.560 --> 1:54:57.080 You always do something. What's the longest you've stayed in 1:54:57.160 --> 1:54:57.480 the suit? 1:54:58.680 --> 1:55:03.200 Oh, just stayed in the suit? You know how you 1:55:03.280 --> 1:55:04.640 get You ever get out of a shot, You ever 1:55:04.680 --> 1:55:07.240 get out of the shower, and then you just hang 1:55:07.320 --> 1:55:10.240 out naked because you're you don't feel like getting dressed. 1:55:11.200 --> 1:55:16.920 I do that with the pain. So when the stream ends, 1:55:17.600 --> 1:55:21.000 I will sometimes, like if the stream ends at nine, 1:55:21.520 --> 1:55:23.200 there will be times where I just hang out with 1:55:23.240 --> 1:55:25.480 the paint on until one o'clock in the morning, and 1:55:25.560 --> 1:55:27.280 then I'll keep it on until. 1:55:28.760 --> 1:55:31.280 Like the very end, just like a little ritual like. 1:55:33.040 --> 1:55:33.320 Keep it. 1:55:33.720 --> 1:55:35.640 Yeah, but it's not it's not like a real it's 1:55:35.640 --> 1:55:37.000 not like a rich like. I'm not doing it for 1:55:37.120 --> 1:55:41.640 any reason other than I'm fucking lazy, I feel, because 1:55:43.960 --> 1:55:46.040 but I'll stay in. I will stay in the paint 1:55:46.080 --> 1:55:49.200 and in the suit, I'll walk around on the pants. 1:55:49.520 --> 1:55:52.240 I'll just wear the pants are very comfortable. 1:55:52.360 --> 1:55:53.200 The pants are fire. 1:55:54.280 --> 1:55:57.000 The pants isn't you were? You said this right when 1:55:57.040 --> 1:56:00.080 you put the suit on. It fits very nice and 1:56:00.160 --> 1:56:01.040 he's very comfortable. 1:56:01.720 --> 1:56:03.879 Honestly, this the whole lower half. 1:56:05.240 --> 1:56:05.680 With like. 1:56:07.280 --> 1:56:11.720 A cool ass top like a like a blazer, like 1:56:11.960 --> 1:56:18.360 take this off, nice button up with a blazer. 1:56:18.480 --> 1:56:19.240 It's a nice fit. 1:56:19.520 --> 1:56:22.160 It'd be a fit. Yeah, that's some ship that Jonah 1:56:22.240 --> 1:56:22.600 Hill will. 1:56:22.520 --> 1:56:29.120 Were Yeah, yeah, Lyle and yo, Hello it is Lyle. 1:56:29.440 --> 1:56:32.080 He Hello. How are you? 1:56:35.000 --> 1:56:36.640 I am doing great, guys. 1:56:36.680 --> 1:56:39.560 How are you feeling pretty fine? 1:56:39.760 --> 1:56:40.360 Feeling good? 1:56:40.560 --> 1:56:42.320 Feeling pretty good, feeling real good? 1:56:42.760 --> 1:56:46.080 How are you? What's going on here? 1:56:46.160 --> 1:56:48.080 I took you guys off speaker. Is that better? 1:56:48.920 --> 1:56:49.120 Yeah? 1:56:49.160 --> 1:56:49.720 You sound great? 1:56:49.960 --> 1:56:55.480 Yep, Oh it's awesome. Well, Derek, I've talked to you before. 1:56:56.640 --> 1:56:59.880 If you remember me, uh, when you were streaming with 1:57:00.080 --> 1:57:03.160 money Worms and I talk you about my tarantulas. 1:57:03.600 --> 1:57:06.160 Yes, yes, yes, you called in. 1:57:06.720 --> 1:57:06.840 Uh. 1:57:07.040 --> 1:57:09.960 I did a stream with with my friend fellow twitch 1:57:10.040 --> 1:57:13.760 streamer money Worms. Shout out to him. He did a 1:57:13.840 --> 1:57:18.840 stream a few weeks ago and you called in to 1:57:18.880 --> 1:57:21.160 tell us about your pet tarantula. Any updates on the 1:57:21.200 --> 1:57:21.880 pet tarantula? 1:57:24.480 --> 1:57:29.000 Uh, well, about like a week after that, my biggest 1:57:29.040 --> 1:57:38.760 one escaped for about seven days and my fiance woke 1:57:38.880 --> 1:57:41.400 up at around like four four o'clock to take a 1:57:41.520 --> 1:57:45.000 piss and it was right next to the toilet. So 1:57:45.240 --> 1:57:50.640 I was woken up by blood curdling screams, and I 1:57:50.800 --> 1:57:52.839 woke up and I caught my taransla. 1:57:53.600 --> 1:57:54.560 And that's the update. 1:57:55.160 --> 1:57:57.200 I feel like when your fiance moved in with you, 1:57:58.600 --> 1:58:00.960 they they must have known that they were signing up 1:58:01.040 --> 1:58:04.120 for They must have. They must have known that the 1:58:04.200 --> 1:58:07.280 tarantulas were part of the deal, so I couldn't have 1:58:07.360 --> 1:58:08.000 been too shocked. 1:58:08.560 --> 1:58:17.640 They they bought me my first taranngela. They started, they 1:58:17.720 --> 1:58:25.040 started the nightmare. But I do have well I need 1:58:25.120 --> 1:58:27.640 some advice, but also I wanted to know if you 1:58:27.720 --> 1:58:32.760 guys would help me name one of my tarantelas, tell 1:58:32.840 --> 1:58:33.440 us about. 1:58:33.240 --> 1:58:35.880 Them, and then we'll see if it comes to mind. 1:58:36.080 --> 1:58:38.760 What's the what's their disposition? 1:58:41.680 --> 1:58:46.240 Well, right now, they're an eighty baby baby, but they 1:58:46.440 --> 1:58:51.560 are a salmon pink bird eater, so they can get 1:58:51.720 --> 1:58:56.400 up to eleven inches in like leg stand. So they're 1:58:56.400 --> 1:58:57.600 gonna be freaking massive. 1:58:59.760 --> 1:59:00.800 The Vante. 1:59:02.040 --> 1:59:08.840 And yvonta. That's that's powerful. I love that. That's super 1:59:08.920 --> 1:59:10.160 bad as solid. 1:59:09.840 --> 1:59:10.680 Three syllable name. 1:59:11.160 --> 1:59:14.760 The Vonte. It's like it's got weight to it has 1:59:14.800 --> 1:59:21.879 like a bell curve vante yep, it's. 1:59:24.000 --> 1:59:27.040 So it would be like a god or like a 1:59:27.520 --> 1:59:29.800 even like a demon king type. 1:59:30.320 --> 1:59:34.240 When you said, do you do you view this tarantula 1:59:35.760 --> 1:59:38.160 as a force of evil or a force of good? 1:59:40.440 --> 1:59:42.200 And and be honest with us, Okay, don't don't. 1:59:42.280 --> 1:59:42.480 Don't. 1:59:42.520 --> 1:59:45.440 Don't answer with how you wish them to be. Answer 1:59:45.520 --> 1:59:48.480 with how you truly honestly perceived them to be, whether 1:59:48.520 --> 1:59:49.960 they perceive them to be a force of good or 1:59:49.960 --> 1:59:50.600 a force of evil. 1:59:52.840 --> 1:59:56.400 I would say a force of neutrality, because I don't know. 1:59:56.560 --> 2:00:01.720 They don't They aren't inherently bad. You know, they only 2:00:01.840 --> 2:00:05.760 get defensive. They're not aggressive. We say that a lot 2:00:05.840 --> 2:00:10.680 in the tarantula hobby because they you know, if they 2:00:10.720 --> 2:00:13.360 feel threatened, if there's like a big vibration, because they 2:00:13.400 --> 2:00:15.720 can't see, they don't know what the hell is going on. 2:00:16.520 --> 2:00:19.400 So if they're if they're spooked enough, they're gonna but 2:00:19.640 --> 2:00:22.320 they'll also like they're not just gonna bite you, well, 2:00:23.680 --> 2:00:26.520 some species, but they're not just gonna bite you. They'll 2:00:26.560 --> 2:00:31.320 usually threaten you first. So I would say neutrality not 2:00:31.440 --> 2:00:33.280 inherently bad or gold. 2:00:34.320 --> 2:00:38.720 And so you you you said you wanted advice on 2:00:38.840 --> 2:00:41.800 something else first of all, Just to sort of wrap 2:00:41.880 --> 2:00:42.960 this this part up. 2:00:44.120 --> 2:00:48.480 Yeah, Davante is his name. That's all. I just want that. 2:00:50.000 --> 2:00:51.920 I will, I will put that on the name Tide. 2:00:52.440 --> 2:00:55.560 That is set. I. I appreciate. That's all I wanted 2:00:55.600 --> 2:00:57.440 from Well, that's one of the things I wanted from 2:00:57.440 --> 2:00:57.720 you guys. 2:00:57.760 --> 2:00:58.680 To beautiful. 2:00:58.840 --> 2:00:59.240 I love that. 2:00:59.640 --> 2:01:02.240 Check next item, let's hear it. 2:01:03.880 --> 2:01:04.240 Okay. 2:01:04.720 --> 2:01:09.120 While in April last year, I moved back to my 2:01:09.200 --> 2:01:13.200 hometown in the house, in a house right next to 2:01:13.240 --> 2:01:21.960 my parents. They're pretty conservative. My mom is an ally 2:01:22.240 --> 2:01:27.120 of the LGBTQ community. I identify as non binary, and 2:01:28.960 --> 2:01:32.520 I'm still am in college full time. But recently I 2:01:32.600 --> 2:01:34.440 was looking for a part time job a few months 2:01:34.480 --> 2:01:38.920 ago and I came across a cafe opening three minutes 2:01:38.960 --> 2:01:44.440 for me in my dinky little conservative hometown. And it's 2:01:45.360 --> 2:01:49.560 LGBTQ and woman owned and operated, and I love their message. 2:01:49.640 --> 2:01:52.720 It's like locally sourced. You know, a lot of good stuff. 2:01:52.800 --> 2:01:55.680 They want to give back to community, et cetera. And 2:01:56.880 --> 2:01:59.680 they really want it to be a safe space for like, 2:01:59.800 --> 2:02:04.360 you know, know, LGBTQ youth and like people because it's 2:02:05.120 --> 2:02:08.160 a small community and they want to target not only 2:02:08.320 --> 2:02:11.200 the community here, but like people from the bigger city 2:02:11.360 --> 2:02:16.600 next to us. So we are like encouraged, not pressured, 2:02:17.040 --> 2:02:20.920 but encouraged to have our pronouns on our name tags. 2:02:21.760 --> 2:02:25.360 And the place isn't open. It opens the twentieth. So 2:02:25.760 --> 2:02:30.280 we just had our first meeting with the staff and 2:02:31.160 --> 2:02:35.600 come to find out, one of them is my mom's 2:02:35.720 --> 2:02:41.920 coworker at their other job. And I had already said 2:02:41.920 --> 2:02:46.040 my pronouns and they offered to give me a ride home. 2:02:46.680 --> 2:02:48.360 When I got in the car with them, we had 2:02:48.400 --> 2:02:53.400 a kind of awkward conversation and it made me like 2:02:53.440 --> 2:02:56.200 a little uncomfortable. I talked with my boss about it. 2:02:56.240 --> 2:02:58.360 They were super nice because they know this person too. 2:02:59.000 --> 2:03:01.320 But now, like I'm a little anxious to you know, 2:03:01.880 --> 2:03:05.040 have my pronouns on my name seg. But I feel 2:03:05.080 --> 2:03:06.760 like I want to because you know, you guys were 2:03:06.800 --> 2:03:12.080 talking about wanting to like do good even in small things, right, 2:03:12.720 --> 2:03:15.960 even though it doesn't feel like super monumental. 2:03:16.120 --> 2:03:20.840 It still does good. Well, I want to inspire kids. 2:03:20.600 --> 2:03:24.640 In my community, who you know, are LGBTQ who are 2:03:24.720 --> 2:03:28.840 non binary like me. I want to show them that 2:03:28.960 --> 2:03:31.760 it's okay to be confident in yourself. But at the 2:03:31.880 --> 2:03:36.680 same time, like if someone tries to be like, oh, 2:03:36.840 --> 2:03:39.520 there's only two genders, it's just it's just a lot. 2:03:39.560 --> 2:03:41.920 Because this is just my personal identity. I don't like 2:03:41.960 --> 2:03:44.280 any political about it. I don't like arguing about it. 2:03:44.920 --> 2:03:48.520 I'm not super like open about it, you know. So 2:03:48.640 --> 2:03:52.560 now I'm kind of have inner conflicts if I should 2:03:52.640 --> 2:03:56.920 like just be just do it, because like because my 2:03:57.080 --> 2:03:59.840 mom I've tried to talk to her about it before 2:04:00.520 --> 2:04:04.120 and she thinks it's just really attention seeking and pointless 2:04:04.280 --> 2:04:06.720 and she doesn't get it, and she says a lot 2:04:06.720 --> 2:04:10.400 of harmful things. So yeah, I don't know. It's like 2:04:10.880 --> 2:04:14.200 kind of heavy, But if y'all have any input, I'd 2:04:14.240 --> 2:04:14.840 love to hear it. 2:04:16.560 --> 2:04:16.760 Man. 2:04:18.280 --> 2:04:23.360 I like I just like apply that to like my 2:04:23.560 --> 2:04:30.240 own existence and experience as a black man, and like 2:04:31.880 --> 2:04:34.800 I will never ever tell someone to bend to the 2:04:34.920 --> 2:04:38.800 will of like respectability, you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh, well, 2:04:39.360 --> 2:04:43.720 if you don't do this, It'll make you safer. Well, nigga, 2:04:44.080 --> 2:04:48.480 tell them to stop making me unsafe, stop putting the burden. 2:04:49.960 --> 2:04:53.400 You know what I'm saying, Like there's people like they 2:04:53.480 --> 2:04:56.920 do it so like I feel like I'm gonna tell 2:04:56.960 --> 2:05:00.800 you to keep rocking that shit fully like rocket harder. 2:05:01.080 --> 2:05:04.760 You know what I mean, Like don't don't let nobody 2:05:04.880 --> 2:05:08.440 and and and and instead of trying to figure out 2:05:08.520 --> 2:05:13.360 reasons to justify you wearing it, figure out better ways 2:05:13.480 --> 2:05:16.360 to to ship on them when they when when they 2:05:16.480 --> 2:05:18.600 ask you why you got it on her, or try 2:05:18.720 --> 2:05:23.240 like understand understand their bigotry and their ignorance and and 2:05:23.840 --> 2:05:27.200 how you can be either more patient patient or cut 2:05:27.280 --> 2:05:30.680 them off when you know what I'm saying, like but don't. 2:05:32.800 --> 2:05:37.600 Don't, don't be don't then don't been to nobody. But 2:05:37.760 --> 2:05:41.720 I I I want to say though, yeah. 2:05:43.240 --> 2:05:48.080 I I I understand why you're like, fuck I don't 2:05:48.080 --> 2:05:51.120 want to have to like deal with this. I understand why. 2:05:51.120 --> 2:05:51.760 I understand that. 2:05:52.880 --> 2:05:55.720 And I also I want to be like because I'm 2:05:55.720 --> 2:05:58.120 also a chair, I'm like I I I I think, like, 2:05:58.280 --> 2:06:02.000 fuck them. Your mom doesn't dictate who you are as 2:06:02.000 --> 2:06:03.960 a person. Nobody dictates who you are as a person, 2:06:04.040 --> 2:06:09.120 except for you. I ampathize as to why, like being 2:06:09.320 --> 2:06:12.520 out and about about it like will attract negative attention 2:06:12.640 --> 2:06:15.760 that you don't feel like you're ready, then you don't 2:06:15.760 --> 2:06:16.960 feel like you're ready to deal with it. 2:06:17.160 --> 2:06:18.200 Yeah for sure, for sure. 2:06:18.400 --> 2:06:25.720 But at the same time, well go ahead, yeah, go ahead. 2:06:26.520 --> 2:06:29.360 Oh well, I was gonna say, like I want to 2:06:29.440 --> 2:06:30.920 be able to do that, like I want to be 2:06:31.000 --> 2:06:33.480 able to be like I guess I just I have 2:06:33.680 --> 2:06:36.720 social anxiety too, so I just don't know what to say, 2:06:36.960 --> 2:06:40.920 like especially in the moment, because like, yeah, I want 2:06:40.960 --> 2:06:43.200 to own it and be like fuck you, but I'm 2:06:43.200 --> 2:06:45.920 also going to be at work right and you know, 2:06:46.480 --> 2:06:49.000 because that's like we're almost like be wearing it. And 2:06:49.520 --> 2:06:52.080 I just like I don't know I how to be 2:06:52.280 --> 2:06:56.440 like sassy, you know, like I'm not good at like 2:06:57.080 --> 2:06:59.880 social shit. So like if you guys have some tips, 2:07:00.200 --> 2:07:01.960 like what I can say to a mother. 2:07:02.680 --> 2:07:06.400 I should I should clarify that being a being a 2:07:07.920 --> 2:07:11.200 asshole back to people is what I would do. 2:07:11.880 --> 2:07:12.440 That's me. 2:07:12.920 --> 2:07:13.320 I will. 2:07:13.720 --> 2:07:16.440 I'll roast them up from the top to the bottom 2:07:17.120 --> 2:07:19.040 and make them you know what I'm saying. That's how 2:07:19.480 --> 2:07:23.280 my response, I'm from Atlanta, Like that's how we that's 2:07:23.320 --> 2:07:24.880 how I would respond to it. But I also know 2:07:25.000 --> 2:07:27.720 people who got a thick skin and they would just 2:07:27.800 --> 2:07:30.440 let it slide off and move on to the next thing. 2:07:30.480 --> 2:07:34.280 And if you think that that's you, then do that. 2:07:34.400 --> 2:07:39.880 But I'm just saying what I will respond. That's exactly 2:07:40.000 --> 2:07:42.680 I was gonna say, suck my dick on. 2:07:45.080 --> 2:07:52.160 You can say on twitch that was That's That's exactly 2:07:52.160 --> 2:07:53.320 what I was going to say. It's like you got 2:07:53.400 --> 2:07:56.480 to find your way of dealing with it, like like 2:07:56.680 --> 2:07:58.440 like Zach was saying, like his way is to like 2:07:58.920 --> 2:08:02.360 being like you know, like fight back, like that's the style. 2:08:02.480 --> 2:08:04.560 But like you say, like it sounds to me like 2:08:04.600 --> 2:08:07.280 for what you're saying is like that style of confrontation, 2:08:07.480 --> 2:08:10.240 Like maybe that doesn't suit you, but there is like 2:08:10.440 --> 2:08:13.240 find a way to deal with it that is within 2:08:13.480 --> 2:08:17.920 your style. And maybe it is to just like internally 2:08:18.040 --> 2:08:21.080 be like I'm better than I'm better than this, like 2:08:21.160 --> 2:08:22.640 I don't have to fight back. Maybe it is to 2:08:22.680 --> 2:08:25.280 fight back like if because you say you're not sassy, 2:08:25.440 --> 2:08:27.880 like you're under no, you're under no obligation to be 2:08:28.560 --> 2:08:30.840 to be sassy. You just gotta find whatever your way 2:08:31.120 --> 2:08:33.960 is of dealing with it that doesn't necessarily have to 2:08:34.040 --> 2:08:38.800 be like combative back or you know, whatever whatever your 2:08:38.880 --> 2:08:41.200 way is. You know, some people are fire people and 2:08:41.320 --> 2:08:45.800 they they they they want to engage in conflict, and 2:08:46.000 --> 2:08:48.840 and you know some people are ice people and they 2:08:48.840 --> 2:08:53.600 would rather just ignore it, move on, find the peace 2:08:53.680 --> 2:08:55.560 within themselves to deal with it. And it's it's up 2:08:55.600 --> 2:08:57.120 to whatever you are comfortable with, you know. 2:08:57.400 --> 2:09:02.080 Yeah, yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. I 2:09:03.520 --> 2:09:06.560 didn't really think of it that way. I guess like 2:09:06.680 --> 2:09:09.520 when I you know, when I try to think of 2:09:09.600 --> 2:09:12.840 like a witty comeback, right, it's like I'm like, okay, 2:09:12.920 --> 2:09:14.600 like I'm gonna tell them, you know, Like I'm just 2:09:14.720 --> 2:09:17.720 be like this is who I am, Like, you know, 2:09:18.320 --> 2:09:20.520 fuck off, Like you can't do anything about it. Like 2:09:20.560 --> 2:09:22.360 I'm proud to be who I am. But like in 2:09:22.480 --> 2:09:25.960 the moment, I feel like I just like almost shut down. 2:09:26.000 --> 2:09:29.720 I'm just like, oh fuck, like so many people watching 2:09:29.800 --> 2:09:32.600 kind of thing, you know, Like so it's hard for me, 2:09:32.720 --> 2:09:35.400 but like you're right, like maybe I could find something 2:09:35.440 --> 2:09:37.560 that just works for me. It just like you just 2:09:37.680 --> 2:09:39.920 like power through it and just see like whenever fuck 2:09:40.080 --> 2:09:40.680 this person. 2:09:40.800 --> 2:09:46.720 You know, like, I will tell you something that I 2:09:46.880 --> 2:09:51.160 truly believe when someone says something to you and you 2:09:52.160 --> 2:09:55.720 look and it's a dumb and it's a dumb bigoted 2:09:55.880 --> 2:09:58.640 or a hateful thing or an ignorant thing, and you 2:09:58.880 --> 2:10:01.480 just kind of look through them as if they're not 2:10:01.640 --> 2:10:06.400 even there and go on with whatever it was that 2:10:06.520 --> 2:10:14.200 you were doing. That probably does more, yeah, than trying 2:10:14.320 --> 2:10:17.960 to engage with them and then getting locked. Because I 2:10:18.960 --> 2:10:23.240 love function. I love vibrating love with people. If you 2:10:23.320 --> 2:10:27.760 want to, I'll yell with anybody. Yeah, but am I winning? 2:10:28.800 --> 2:10:28.840 No? 2:10:29.200 --> 2:10:32.720 I just like talking shit. I love talking shit and 2:10:33.120 --> 2:10:38.120 winning at that. But the real way to just delete 2:10:38.200 --> 2:10:43.920 a motherfucker is like just yeah huh and just keep going. 2:10:44.840 --> 2:10:47.400 And if that pres like it almost sounds like this 2:10:47.640 --> 2:10:49.680 pressure that you're putting on yourself to come up with 2:10:49.760 --> 2:10:54.000 a witty comeback to like engage in this combat and win, 2:10:54.720 --> 2:10:57.960 it's like adding extra It's like adding more negative bullshit 2:10:58.000 --> 2:11:00.720 you don't want to deal with all. Deal with it 2:11:00.760 --> 2:11:03.280 however feels natural to you, right, you know, Like, don't 2:11:03.280 --> 2:11:07.920 put pressure on yourself to win the argument, like by 2:11:08.040 --> 2:11:10.360 having the you know you're not gonna win this by 2:11:10.760 --> 2:11:14.680 having the wittiest comeback. You win this by like not 2:11:14.840 --> 2:11:15.720 letting it get to you. 2:11:16.120 --> 2:11:20.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you. 2:11:21.600 --> 2:11:22.640 Put that really well. 2:11:23.160 --> 2:11:26.040 I mean I guess, like I don't want to win 2:11:26.800 --> 2:11:30.440 an argument. I like it's like on TikTok, right, you see, 2:11:30.480 --> 2:11:33.560 like I see a lot of people non binary people 2:11:33.560 --> 2:11:38.920 are like whatever, being really just proud to be who 2:11:39.000 --> 2:11:40.920 they am right or who they are right. And I'm 2:11:40.960 --> 2:11:45.080 really proud of who I am, but also like it 2:11:45.440 --> 2:11:47.200 makes me feel like I'm not when I can't just 2:11:47.320 --> 2:11:51.600 be like out completely about it, like and I feel 2:11:51.680 --> 2:11:54.440 silly because I'm twenty three and I'm like I'm and 2:11:54.520 --> 2:11:57.080 I guess like everyone comes out in their own time. 2:11:57.160 --> 2:12:01.800 There's no expectations, but like exactly hard. But I completely 2:12:02.560 --> 2:12:06.640 I agree that, like I don't have to you know, 2:12:06.800 --> 2:12:09.360 have the last word in order to win. I can 2:12:09.480 --> 2:12:12.200 just make them feel like whatever they just said, like 2:12:12.440 --> 2:12:16.320 is insignificant or like like what them and. 2:12:16.400 --> 2:12:21.320 Folks and folks that you see on TikTok, regardless of identity. 2:12:22.240 --> 2:12:28.080 One thing that exists across everything black, white, whether it's race, 2:12:28.120 --> 2:12:34.560 whether it's identity, whether it's how you identify engender motherfuckers 2:12:34.600 --> 2:12:38.760 get on the internet and live no matter who you are, 2:12:39.920 --> 2:12:42.040 no matter who it is. They get on the Internet 2:12:42.160 --> 2:12:49.040 and they present something to you that seems idealistic and 2:12:49.160 --> 2:12:53.200 seems ten out of ten, but they themselves are figuring 2:12:53.280 --> 2:12:55.920 it out too, and you know you'll see motherfuckers get 2:12:55.920 --> 2:12:58.320 on in that. This bitch came in the Starbucks today 2:12:58.680 --> 2:13:00.960 and she said da da da And then I said, 2:13:02.400 --> 2:13:06.760 and I'm that did not happen. Okay, you are not 2:13:07.760 --> 2:13:12.000 Patrisea O'Neil. You're not this fucking nobody is just like 2:13:12.680 --> 2:13:18.360 real time comedic genius, unless you like a black woman 2:13:18.480 --> 2:13:21.360 from Detroit and you you you do this every day 2:13:21.360 --> 2:13:24.000 and you deal with people like that like or you're 2:13:24.120 --> 2:13:27.400 just you're some like you're an Italian from Jersey like 2:13:27.560 --> 2:13:29.360 those those are the two motherfuckers in the world that 2:13:29.440 --> 2:13:32.400 will cut you down at a moment's notice. But these 2:13:32.440 --> 2:13:34.080 motherfuckersill get on the Internet and try to make you 2:13:34.160 --> 2:13:38.080 feel like, oh, well, this is how you handle They're 2:13:38.160 --> 2:13:41.320 living in a movie reality. You know what I'm saying. 2:13:41.400 --> 2:13:47.040 You need to handle shit like smooth, smooth criminal. Somebody 2:13:47.080 --> 2:13:49.680 come say some shit to you. Ooh, step out the way, 2:13:50.160 --> 2:13:53.880 somebody say some shit. Oh nope, not ooh, nope, not 2:13:53.960 --> 2:13:56.960 even dealing with that that'll make you the call this motherfucker. 2:14:00.320 --> 2:14:03.720 Know that I feel that I'm gonna take that advice. 2:14:04.600 --> 2:14:07.240 I'll try just to be like let it roll off 2:14:07.320 --> 2:14:10.600 my back, like yeah, because I guess it doesn't matter 2:14:10.720 --> 2:14:15.480 in the bigger picture, like there's nothing I don't know. 2:14:15.720 --> 2:14:19.360 I guess it was like the worst I guess that 2:14:19.480 --> 2:14:24.040 I can conceive happening is just some fucking asshole coming 2:14:24.080 --> 2:14:26.160 in and you know, staying a bunch of it and 2:14:26.200 --> 2:14:29.560 then getting kicked out. But like, and I guess the 2:14:29.680 --> 2:14:32.839 other part is just like the possibility of it happens. 2:14:33.080 --> 2:14:36.320 Happening seems so tiresome, Like I don't want to have 2:14:36.480 --> 2:14:40.960 to fucking deal with it too, you know, and it 2:14:41.160 --> 2:14:43.200 sucks because like I try and kind of hide that 2:14:43.320 --> 2:14:46.040 and just like present feminine and you know, just like 2:14:46.480 --> 2:14:51.200 but then I have to deal with consistently being called 2:14:51.440 --> 2:14:53.800 and viewed as something I'm not when I can just 2:14:53.840 --> 2:14:57.480 be like high, so I should just do you know 2:14:57.560 --> 2:15:01.040 what makes me happy, even if it's a harder choice, 2:15:01.120 --> 2:15:03.600 I guess, and J just like like. 2:15:03.960 --> 2:15:07.440 Like final sort of like I think I think the 2:15:07.560 --> 2:15:14.680 sentiment is like do be proud? On your own timeline, 2:15:15.120 --> 2:15:17.480 you know, like if if you're if you feel like 2:15:17.520 --> 2:15:19.760 you're not ready to deal Like if you're anticipating what 2:15:19.800 --> 2:15:20.880 you might have to deal with and you feel like 2:15:20.880 --> 2:15:22.840 you're not ready to deal with it, that's fine, you know, 2:15:24.040 --> 2:15:26.440 don't go out your own timeline, but when you are ready, 2:15:26.560 --> 2:15:28.760 don't feel like you have to deal with it in 2:15:28.840 --> 2:15:30.720 any particular way other than the way that feels right 2:15:30.760 --> 2:15:30.880 for you. 2:15:33.160 --> 2:15:33.560 Mm hmm. 2:15:34.640 --> 2:15:36.480 Fact, I really appreciate that. 2:15:37.920 --> 2:15:40.440 Any other thoughts, feelings, or sentiments that you wish to 2:15:40.480 --> 2:15:41.560 share before we go MJ. 2:15:44.760 --> 2:15:49.800 No, no, but I really do appreciate y'all. And yeah, okay, 2:15:51.760 --> 2:15:54.000 do a lot of good luck. 2:15:53.920 --> 2:15:56.520 To you in whatever you choose to do. 2:15:57.560 --> 2:16:00.560 Good luck, Thank you for y'all. 2:16:00.600 --> 2:16:02.080 Have a great night you as well. 2:16:02.080 --> 2:16:03.040 I'm jay you too. 2:16:04.520 --> 2:16:07.880 Davante is such a good good name. 2:16:08.760 --> 2:16:10.640 That was a good name, and. 2:16:11.000 --> 2:16:13.160 Like I don't know where it came from. It just 2:16:13.520 --> 2:16:18.000 entered like like a needle hit my brain and was like, was. 2:16:18.000 --> 2:16:19.720 That the did you cycle through anything else? 2:16:20.480 --> 2:16:20.720 First? 2:16:20.720 --> 2:16:21.160 First one? 2:16:21.360 --> 2:16:25.680 Yeah, it's pretty good. And now I'm you ever do 2:16:25.840 --> 2:16:31.080 something for somebody? And like I wish I kept named 2:16:31.080 --> 2:16:32.960 it And I didn't even know I wanted the to 2:16:33.040 --> 2:16:35.480 Ranela named Davante. And now I'm sitting here like. 2:16:36.760 --> 2:16:38.640 You think anyone ever comes up with the name, and 2:16:38.720 --> 2:16:41.320 then the animal, and then the animal. They're like, man, 2:16:41.360 --> 2:16:49.040 I really love the name Trevor. What animal parakeet? Bearded dragon? 2:16:49.640 --> 2:16:53.680 Yea bearded dragon named Trevor goes crazy. I actually with 2:16:53.760 --> 2:16:54.880 the bearded dragon name. 2:16:54.959 --> 2:16:55.480 That fits. 2:16:56.040 --> 2:16:59.600 We're in a similar family to bearded dragons. I think, 2:17:00.160 --> 2:17:04.039 uh huh, the geckos. Bearded dragons are a little bit more. 2:17:05.280 --> 2:17:05.959 They a little bit more. 2:17:06.080 --> 2:17:07.560 They're a little bit they're higher on the food chain 2:17:07.600 --> 2:17:09.920 than they will fuck your ass up. 2:17:09.920 --> 2:17:12.560 I feel like they could pop a tire just standing 2:17:12.640 --> 2:17:13.080 in the road. 2:17:14.720 --> 2:17:18.560 People send me. Anytime there's like a lizardy meme circulating 2:17:18.560 --> 2:17:20.080 around the internet, people send it to me. There's something 2:17:20.120 --> 2:17:22.240 about a bearded dragon. People were sending it to me, 2:17:22.280 --> 2:17:25.160 and I'm like, am I do identify with this? He's 2:17:25.200 --> 2:17:25.680 not a gecko? 2:17:26.840 --> 2:17:27.080 Hello? 2:17:27.320 --> 2:17:28.800 Is this Lee Leopold? 2:17:33.920 --> 2:17:34.440 Leopold? 2:17:35.320 --> 2:17:35.760 How are you? 2:17:40.120 --> 2:17:40.440 I don't know? 2:17:40.520 --> 2:17:41.320 Get it's pretty late. 2:17:41.360 --> 2:17:41.720 How are you? 2:17:43.200 --> 2:17:46.760 I'm doing pretty good. It's also it's it's relatively late 2:17:47.280 --> 2:17:50.560 where I am. I'm very happy to be on West 2:17:50.640 --> 2:17:56.320 coast time because beforehand, let's see, it would be midnight 2:17:57.320 --> 2:18:01.760 back when I was streaming on the East coast. I'm, 2:18:02.400 --> 2:18:06.080 Zach said, feeling very loosey, goosey, feeling good. 2:18:05.959 --> 2:18:10.760 Up in the sky, vibing a bit, you know, Yeah, it's. 2:18:10.640 --> 2:18:17.680 A huge vibe for sure, for sure, Leopold. 2:18:18.640 --> 2:18:19.480 Yeah, brot, what's going on? 2:18:20.240 --> 2:18:26.840 Leopold? How how can we get you today? Well? 2:18:26.840 --> 2:18:31.280 I got a pretty interesting dilemma on my hands here. 2:18:32.120 --> 2:18:36.160 I don't know if the call screener had some kind 2:18:36.200 --> 2:18:39.879 of rate up there, but it's got an interesting roommate 2:18:40.000 --> 2:18:42.520 etiquette problem that I could use some advice on. 2:18:42.720 --> 2:18:45.960 Oh beautiful, Zach would love to listen to this, to this, 2:18:46.680 --> 2:18:48.840 to this inquiry while I go take a pee and 2:18:49.520 --> 2:18:52.680 and return back very shortly. 2:18:53.080 --> 2:19:00.480 Yep, all right, happy streams? Yeah, man, hit me, what's 2:19:00.560 --> 2:19:00.840 going on? 2:19:02.160 --> 2:19:02.480 All right? 2:19:03.320 --> 2:19:09.640 So I tend to take some of the loudest poops 2:19:09.680 --> 2:19:14.040 you've ever heard in your life, and I'm worried that 2:19:15.120 --> 2:19:17.840 I'm being a bad roommate because Dude, at this point, 2:19:17.879 --> 2:19:21.720 they're just so loud, and I'm wondering if it's rude. 2:19:25.520 --> 2:19:28.800 H Have your roommates complained about? 2:19:31.400 --> 2:19:31.440 No? 2:19:31.600 --> 2:19:35.000 No, no, I'm just like I'm starting to get self conscious, dude. 2:19:35.040 --> 2:19:39.240 It's like a firecracker every time, like like full on, 2:19:39.560 --> 2:19:41.880 like I can't like I just like I don't know 2:19:41.920 --> 2:19:45.000 what's going on, man, but like full on gip the 2:19:45.200 --> 2:19:48.360 glip the fucking seat, like you're. 2:19:48.280 --> 2:19:53.440 You're you're cracking the show, like yeah, you're cracking poor. 2:19:53.360 --> 2:19:54.120 Some yeah I. 2:19:57.720 --> 2:20:00.680 Do things like they're feeling this on the effects of 2:20:00.760 --> 2:20:04.520 this is the fucking city sewage treatment plant Like mm hmm. 2:20:05.680 --> 2:20:10.880 So this is like a self imposed thing, you know 2:20:10.920 --> 2:20:13.840 what I mean. Nobody's complaining to you about it. You 2:20:14.200 --> 2:20:15.400 just personally feel like. 2:20:15.760 --> 2:20:19.320 But like, look, it's it's it is so it is 2:20:19.560 --> 2:20:23.080 so loud, and it's every time that I'm like, yo, 2:20:23.280 --> 2:20:26.320 like it's like if I was playing music really loudly 2:20:27.320 --> 2:20:29.200 all the time, like it could be the bad kind 2:20:29.240 --> 2:20:31.240 of noise. Complain, Like no one said anything, but I 2:20:31.360 --> 2:20:33.800 want to get ahead of it because I feel like 2:20:33.959 --> 2:20:36.000 even so, like what who would come up to you 2:20:36.200 --> 2:20:39.040 and say, like, yo, bro, like your ships are so loud, 2:20:39.320 --> 2:20:41.600 Like you gotta find someone to calm it down, Like 2:20:41.760 --> 2:20:43.240 no one's going to have that conversation. 2:20:44.120 --> 2:20:47.560 That's you make a good point, that's not that's not 2:20:47.720 --> 2:20:51.359 typically what people are going to come up with some complain. 2:20:51.080 --> 2:20:53.920 About there's some unspoken issue here, you know, like I 2:20:54.000 --> 2:20:58.120 gotta unload, you know, clumps bro like, but I don't 2:20:58.160 --> 2:21:01.720 know if like I need to like go somewhere else. 2:21:04.959 --> 2:21:05.959 What are you eat in, Leo? 2:21:10.120 --> 2:21:13.360 I feel like that I tendn't think that I have 2:21:13.440 --> 2:21:15.960 a pretty decent diet. I don't know, man, it's probably 2:21:16.040 --> 2:21:18.240 just like I think I got a limit to stress 2:21:18.280 --> 2:21:21.440 in my life. You know, like get mind connection. 2:21:25.360 --> 2:21:26.520 You think it's a stress thing. 2:21:29.840 --> 2:21:31.680 Yeah, you know, I don't know see their experiences, but 2:21:31.720 --> 2:21:34.640 you get like really anxious whatever, Like your stomach starts 2:21:34.640 --> 2:21:37.200 turned upside down. You just like you know, you sit, 2:21:37.720 --> 2:21:39.360 you sit down on the throne and just you know, 2:21:41.680 --> 2:21:42.560 it's like a symphony. 2:21:47.680 --> 2:21:51.320 Well if if you know, if you know the issue, Leo, 2:21:52.560 --> 2:22:01.080 and you know what, you've got to change what's stopping, right. 2:22:01.160 --> 2:22:03.840 But like we're getting at like like if the solution 2:22:04.280 --> 2:22:08.160 is like like managing stress and anxiety, like that's a 2:22:08.480 --> 2:22:11.920 that's like a lifelong activity here, right, But like we're 2:22:11.959 --> 2:22:15.280 talking about like I need to keep this house in order, right, 2:22:15.360 --> 2:22:17.720 and like I can't just keep like every time I 2:22:17.800 --> 2:22:21.680 go to the bathroom just like fearing and like you know, like. 2:22:23.000 --> 2:22:29.440 Right, it's the dilemma, is you know a long term problem. 2:22:29.520 --> 2:22:31.560 We've got a short term problems with a long term. 2:22:31.480 --> 2:22:34.760 Stix one took the words out of my mouth. 2:22:39.640 --> 2:22:42.160 I genuinely feel like I've never had this person. 2:22:43.200 --> 2:22:43.760 Do you feel good? 2:22:43.840 --> 2:22:44.000 Yeah? 2:22:44.000 --> 2:22:46.880 I feel amazing after taking that pee. Can believe we 2:22:47.280 --> 2:22:50.640 did two ps? They were quick too, they were. 2:22:52.280 --> 2:22:55.879 Leo thinks that his booboo is too loud. 2:22:57.200 --> 2:22:58.600 And has anyone told you that? Or is that just 2:22:58.680 --> 2:22:59.880 like a personal and security that you have? 2:23:02.200 --> 2:23:05.760 I mean, okay, if I could lay out this example, 2:23:06.480 --> 2:23:10.160 I have a pretty good pair of noise canceling headphones, 2:23:10.480 --> 2:23:13.000 like very good. Spend a lot of money on them. 2:23:13.120 --> 2:23:16.480 Probably shouldn't spend that much anyways, Like you don't like 2:23:16.520 --> 2:23:19.360 anybody like I'm not gonna be listening to music whatever 2:23:20.120 --> 2:23:25.840 on toilet whatever. I can, like clear and clearer than 2:23:25.840 --> 2:23:30.600 anything else. Can hear my fucking ripping ass when I 2:23:30.640 --> 2:23:34.760 sit down, And if I can hear it through these headphones, 2:23:35.400 --> 2:23:37.080 everybody else can hear. 2:23:37.800 --> 2:23:39.920 Yeah, if they can hear you, if you can hear yourself. 2:23:39.640 --> 2:23:44.119 Phone, you're talking about Like right, we're talking about any hour. 2:23:44.120 --> 2:23:46.600 It could be you know, decent folk hour, Like you 2:23:46.640 --> 2:23:49.000 know I work from home. Everybody works from home day. 2:23:49.000 --> 2:23:49.960 In the middle of the day, I don't know if 2:23:49.959 --> 2:23:52.600 someone's gonna call for at night. You know, I get 2:23:52.680 --> 2:23:55.480 up midnight. You gotta go to the bathroom. It's disruptive. 2:23:58.240 --> 2:24:03.240 I think the the seed of the issue needs to change. 2:24:04.600 --> 2:24:09.360 We're talking about you do your do do is too loud? 2:24:10.480 --> 2:24:13.120 What if that upset your roommates. But what we need 2:24:13.240 --> 2:24:18.400 to be talking about is why would your roommates be upset? 2:24:19.360 --> 2:24:24.160 That's something that you naturally do and that every human does. 2:24:26.160 --> 2:24:31.119 You know what I'm saying, Like, are they gross? It's 2:24:31.200 --> 2:24:36.240 not gross. It's a part of doing do doing is 2:24:37.520 --> 2:24:38.760 it's a part of life. 2:24:39.400 --> 2:24:42.320 And it sounds like you know, you're It's like it's 2:24:42.959 --> 2:24:47.240 you know, their problem with your do doing is a 2:24:47.320 --> 2:24:48.040 them problem. 2:24:48.320 --> 2:24:51.720 It sounds like them and they haven't even complained about it. 2:24:51.840 --> 2:24:54.120 So this is a self contained thing right now. 2:24:54.160 --> 2:24:55.520 No, I know, like I'm getting ahead of my. 2:24:56.760 --> 2:24:57.920 You're getting ahead of yourself. 2:25:01.240 --> 2:25:03.440 Like what I've thought of, like different strategies I could 2:25:03.560 --> 2:25:07.879 like practice better, like I don't know, like cheap discipline, 2:25:08.200 --> 2:25:09.440 like you know what I mean like where you just 2:25:09.480 --> 2:25:12.879 try to like shift around and just try to like instead. 2:25:12.600 --> 2:25:13.640 Of letting it all come out. 2:25:14.879 --> 2:25:18.800 You know, normally I would understand like a low whistle. 2:25:19.680 --> 2:25:22.440 I normally I would understand why you and it's and 2:25:22.560 --> 2:25:26.440 by the way, it's very it's very nice of you 2:25:27.959 --> 2:25:31.840 to want because you have you have a genuine desire 2:25:32.920 --> 2:25:36.680 for your roommates to feel more comfortable. And that's very 2:25:36.800 --> 2:25:42.120 nice of you, that's very noble. But if that has 2:25:42.240 --> 2:25:45.920 to come at the cost of of you, of your 2:25:46.000 --> 2:25:51.800 own insanity mm hmm, then you have to weigh that. 2:25:53.480 --> 2:25:55.039 Do you use a squatty potty? 2:25:58.400 --> 2:25:59.240 What do you mean by that? 2:26:00.640 --> 2:26:01.120 Do you do? 2:26:01.240 --> 2:26:02.080 You know? 2:26:02.120 --> 2:26:02.160 What? 2:26:03.440 --> 2:26:04.800 Do you know what a squatty potty is? 2:26:07.280 --> 2:26:08.880 No, you don't know. 2:26:08.920 --> 2:26:10.320 You don't even know what it is. You don't even 2:26:10.320 --> 2:26:14.440 know what it is. Okay, so you know when you poop, 2:26:15.320 --> 2:26:17.840 you know, you're you're sitting down and you got your 2:26:17.879 --> 2:26:20.480 feet planted on the ground like the. 2:26:20.600 --> 2:26:21.480 Legs up high thing. 2:26:22.080 --> 2:26:24.199 Yes, oh yeah, yeah, like that's how we were supposed 2:26:24.200 --> 2:26:28.320 to go. Yes, that's how that's how we were intended. 2:26:28.720 --> 2:26:30.000 I think that you should try that. 2:26:30.560 --> 2:26:31.560 Does that make less noise? 2:26:31.879 --> 2:26:32.480 I think it does. 2:26:33.840 --> 2:26:38.160 I feel like you can. Also, I'm sit on it 2:26:38.280 --> 2:26:41.879 like an incline so that the poop hits a different 2:26:42.200 --> 2:26:44.320 the bowl and not the water, because I feel like 2:26:44.320 --> 2:26:47.440 when it hits the water is when, Yeah, are you 2:26:47.560 --> 2:26:49.360 making grunting noises as well? 2:26:49.680 --> 2:26:50.879 What like like the. 2:26:52.440 --> 2:26:54.160 Like if it's like like if your poop is like 2:26:54.200 --> 2:26:57.200 a track and there's different like there's the sound of 2:26:57.240 --> 2:26:59.760 the water hitting the bowl, there's the grunts, there's whatever 2:27:00.240 --> 2:27:01.200 your asshole is making. 2:27:01.400 --> 2:27:02.240 What's the eight oh eight? 2:27:02.480 --> 2:27:07.240 Yeah, oh man, this is a great question. 2:27:07.840 --> 2:27:08.440 I'd say, like. 2:27:10.280 --> 2:27:12.800 It's more like the gas is the eight eight and 2:27:12.920 --> 2:27:16.520 the splashes like the kick or the click, and. 2:27:16.600 --> 2:27:19.480 You're not making any because I'll be real with you 2:27:19.600 --> 2:27:23.000 if you're if it's if we're just talking about butthole 2:27:23.080 --> 2:27:27.640 and toilet sounds right now, I'm with you. But if 2:27:27.680 --> 2:27:31.440 you're telling me you know you're you're going number two 2:27:31.560 --> 2:27:36.600 screaming like courage the Cowardly Dog every time, then yeah, 2:27:36.800 --> 2:27:40.520 something needs to something's gotta give. But if it's just 2:27:41.680 --> 2:27:47.280 if it's just but in water noises, my girl, do that. 2:27:48.720 --> 2:27:52.120 I do that, dude, I know. 2:27:52.280 --> 2:27:57.240 But like everybody's poop, you're gonna hear it. 2:27:57.680 --> 2:27:59.960 It scares me. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere. 2:28:02.160 --> 2:28:04.240 I think you're I think you're getting ahead of yourself, 2:28:05.959 --> 2:28:09.720 and I think I think you just need the recenter. 2:28:09.840 --> 2:28:11.879 And I don't think that your I don't think your 2:28:11.920 --> 2:28:12.879 booboo's thatll out bro. 2:28:16.600 --> 2:28:18.760 I mean that's very kind of you to say. But 2:28:18.959 --> 2:28:23.320 like I don't know, man, Like I mean it's different 2:28:23.320 --> 2:28:24.920 because like so I lived with two girls and like 2:28:25.000 --> 2:28:26.080 I don't want to be gross. 2:28:26.240 --> 2:28:28.280 You know, like see there it is. You didn't say that. 2:28:29.040 --> 2:28:30.200 You didn't say that up top? 2:28:33.280 --> 2:28:34.000 Is that important? 2:28:34.720 --> 2:28:34.920 Huh? 2:28:36.560 --> 2:28:38.879 It's I mean, you know, I feel skittish. 2:28:38.920 --> 2:28:41.080 I feel like just because of their girls, I mean 2:28:41.080 --> 2:28:44.840 the girl boy. Yeah whatever, whatever you are, you gotta ship. 2:28:45.320 --> 2:28:47.600 Yeah, I'm saying it's no. 2:28:47.760 --> 2:28:49.960 But like, okay, okay, it's different because like I'm not 2:28:50.040 --> 2:28:52.560 hearing any noise from anybody else right, Like I'm I'm 2:28:52.600 --> 2:28:54.039 only one to make a noise out here. 2:28:55.920 --> 2:29:01.680 Let me ask you something, are you house theatrical? Are 2:29:01.720 --> 2:29:07.680 the poops and do you think maybe even subconsciously, you 2:29:07.879 --> 2:29:11.680 play it up or add in any additional elements. I 2:29:11.720 --> 2:29:13.160 don't know why. I don't know why you would, but 2:29:13.200 --> 2:29:13.879 do you think you right? 2:29:13.920 --> 2:29:14.160 Okay? 2:29:14.240 --> 2:29:14.760 So I don't. 2:29:15.040 --> 2:29:17.480 I don't vocalize, you know, like I'm not that kind 2:29:17.520 --> 2:29:21.000 of guy, Like I don't like, you know, I'm not grimacing, 2:29:21.080 --> 2:29:23.360 I'm not like, you know, I'm not screaming or anything. 2:29:23.440 --> 2:29:26.200 It's just like it's just the fact that before I 2:29:26.280 --> 2:29:30.879 can get anything out, it's just an explosion of gas. 2:29:31.320 --> 2:29:35.720 It's like a it's like a firecracker, like a miniature explosion. Okay, right, 2:29:35.920 --> 2:29:38.280 and like that's like it's just I feel like a 2:29:38.360 --> 2:29:41.120 sense like shockwaves through the house. And you know, we 2:29:41.200 --> 2:29:43.680 could do you know, that's at the beginning. The show's 2:29:43.680 --> 2:29:46.000 not over. You know, it's like three four more times. 2:29:50.160 --> 2:29:52.080 I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna end on this. 2:29:52.280 --> 2:29:57.160 It's like Leopold, you are enough, Okay. 2:29:58.040 --> 2:29:58.120 You. 2:29:59.600 --> 2:30:05.680 And you're and your poops they're enough, and you do 2:30:05.959 --> 2:30:11.640 not have to change. You are to appease other people. 2:30:12.000 --> 2:30:15.840 Yeah, And and some would say I would say if 2:30:15.920 --> 2:30:19.560 I was if I came and I hung out for 2:30:19.640 --> 2:30:25.600 a night at your house and your two roommates said, 2:30:26.840 --> 2:30:29.280 back to back, I gotta go to the bathroom, and 2:30:29.400 --> 2:30:32.280 I didn't hear anything from the first one second one goes, 2:30:32.720 --> 2:30:34.800 I gotta go to the bathroom, and I didn't hear anything. 2:30:35.200 --> 2:30:37.039 And then you go, I gotta go to the bathroom, 2:30:38.040 --> 2:30:42.320 and it sounded like fucking Batman begins in there. I'm 2:30:42.360 --> 2:30:45.680 gonna go, well, shit, I know who runs this fucking house. Yep, 2:30:46.600 --> 2:30:48.680 that's what I'm a thing. Never thought about it like that. 2:30:48.959 --> 2:30:51.640 That's who runs the fucking house. Because they went in 2:30:51.760 --> 2:30:56.080 there and they kept it quiet. They put on the water, 2:30:57.040 --> 2:30:57.640 they put. 2:30:57.480 --> 2:30:57.880 On all this. 2:30:58.080 --> 2:31:00.400 They tried to keep it quiet. And that motherfucker went 2:31:00.440 --> 2:31:02.160 in there and just let it sing. 2:31:04.640 --> 2:31:09.720 That guy, that guy's got confidence. And if I ever 2:31:09.800 --> 2:31:12.000 and if there is ever any other roommate issues, like 2:31:12.040 --> 2:31:15.439 oh who left the dishes, who is refilling the Brita filter. 2:31:16.920 --> 2:31:17.400 This man is. 2:31:18.720 --> 2:31:22.800 This man will win any contation. So it sets a 2:31:22.920 --> 2:31:25.480 good tone for the relationship in general. I completely agree 2:31:25.480 --> 2:31:25.680 with them. 2:31:25.840 --> 2:31:26.960 Let it go. Just let it go. 2:31:29.600 --> 2:31:31.840 Yeah, all right, I appreciate that. I'll make it a 2:31:31.920 --> 2:31:35.120 lot more comfortable and just you know, go about my 2:31:35.240 --> 2:31:38.520 business every day, you know, just I don't know, just 2:31:38.600 --> 2:31:39.960 not worrying about that would be nice. 2:31:41.280 --> 2:31:42.360 Thank you so much for calling Leo. 2:31:45.000 --> 2:31:46.240 Yeah, thanks, guys, have a good night. 2:31:51.600 --> 2:31:55.040 You know what I'm saying, though, in in in which thing. 2:31:55.120 --> 2:31:59.800 Particularly if I just went in someone's house and they 2:31:59.840 --> 2:32:07.200 were just shamelessly yeah, like clapping it out, I'll be like, 2:32:07.680 --> 2:32:12.879 you would have to respect them, you know what I mean? Yeah, 2:32:13.840 --> 2:32:17.760 let me mm hmm, let me tread lightly in this 2:32:17.920 --> 2:32:18.680 motherfucker's house. 2:32:18.800 --> 2:32:23.280 Yep, it's not it's it's it's it's the same. It's 2:32:23.280 --> 2:32:24.920 the same sentiment as you know, you go into the 2:32:25.080 --> 2:32:26.560 you go into when you get to go to prison, 2:32:27.040 --> 2:32:27.440 you go you. 2:32:27.440 --> 2:32:31.279 Beat up the the same thing. Yeah, same thing establishes dominance, 2:32:31.400 --> 2:32:36.040 established like, yo, I'm here, I'm don't fuck with me. 2:32:36.920 --> 2:32:38.880 I don't know, you know what we should do to 2:32:38.959 --> 2:32:41.640 wrap up? I I like I like to try and 2:32:43.240 --> 2:32:46.280 us think of like our our our like what our 2:32:46.320 --> 2:32:48.720 what of our what are what? What's the themes that 2:32:48.800 --> 2:32:53.040 we've we've tackled. We've tackled the theme of don't bend yourself. See, 2:32:53.120 --> 2:32:55.520 this is the interest, this is the interesting. The silly call, 2:32:55.760 --> 2:32:59.680 the the quote silly calls, the quote serious calls. They 2:32:59.800 --> 2:33:05.000 hit the same themes, same notes. Yes, both MJ and 2:33:05.400 --> 2:33:05.959 who is who? 2:33:06.160 --> 2:33:06.280 Who? 2:33:06.360 --> 2:33:07.360 Do we just talk to Leo? 2:33:07.760 --> 2:33:11.440 Both m J and LEO need to not bend to 2:33:11.520 --> 2:33:14.080 the whims of others, and both. 2:33:13.920 --> 2:33:20.160 Of them doing it preemptively before the problem has even arrived. 2:33:19.879 --> 2:33:21.600 For the problems, yes, exactly, both of them doing it 2:33:21.640 --> 2:33:24.480 before anticipating a conflict, and. 2:33:24.560 --> 2:33:29.680 You're already telegraphing your punch of how you're gonna react 2:33:29.760 --> 2:33:31.320 to it, or do I need to change or do 2:33:31.440 --> 2:33:32.400 I need to switch this up? 2:33:33.520 --> 2:33:36.280 Even if it doesn't happen, you bend in and it 2:33:36.320 --> 2:33:37.640 ain't even no pressure yet. 2:33:37.760 --> 2:33:40.640 Yep, you know what I'm saying. 2:33:42.080 --> 2:33:42.880 It could all be for nothing. 2:33:42.920 --> 2:33:44.840 You're supposed to wait for the pressure to come and 2:33:44.920 --> 2:33:48.880 then you go, yeah, I been, but I don't break. Yep, 2:33:49.920 --> 2:33:54.040 that's when you've been. But if it ain't no pressure yet, man, 2:33:55.720 --> 2:33:59.720 be free. Shit, I don't know what. 2:33:59.800 --> 2:34:02.800 Does some other? Who? Who were some other? Who? 2:34:02.840 --> 2:34:02.960 Are? 2:34:03.000 --> 2:34:06.080 Some other calls we had to I've been doing this lately. 2:34:06.160 --> 2:34:07.840 We're at the end of the stream. I'll like try 2:34:07.920 --> 2:34:10.120 I want to try to remember the calls because then 2:34:10.120 --> 2:34:10.600 I feel like. 2:34:11.400 --> 2:34:12.800 Jack at the beginning. 2:34:13.720 --> 2:34:14.760 What was he talking about? 2:34:15.480 --> 2:34:19.600 Uh? Sugar do you want to be? You want to 2:34:19.640 --> 2:34:24.200 be the sugar, the sugar, the sugar mama? Yeah, h yeah? 2:34:25.720 --> 2:34:26.039 Who else? 2:34:26.080 --> 2:34:27.280 Do we have the. 2:34:27.320 --> 2:34:32.800 Clumps at clump girl. The clump girl also another person 2:34:32.920 --> 2:34:42.200 who is trying not to bend tow other other people. Yeah, 2:34:46.000 --> 2:34:53.320 so yah, oh porn, another guy, another guy preemptively Yeah, 2:34:54.320 --> 2:34:57.199 but yes another Yeah, a big thing of people preemptively 2:34:57.200 --> 2:34:59.240 anticipating situations that they would have to deal with, which, 2:34:59.280 --> 2:35:02.840 of course everyone does, except for wild animals who just 2:35:02.959 --> 2:35:06.600 purely in the moment to ship fuck, eat and drink 2:35:06.800 --> 2:35:10.560 and be comfortable. And they're probably like a wild fucking 2:35:10.680 --> 2:35:13.440 like wild deer. A wild deer is probably way happier 2:35:13.480 --> 2:35:14.360 than any human being. 2:35:15.200 --> 2:35:15.760 Hands down. 2:35:16.520 --> 2:35:19.200 They're living. They live in the moment because they physically 2:35:19.280 --> 2:35:24.000 cannot anticipate any future anxiety. They're not thinking about how 2:35:24.000 --> 2:35:25.720 they're gonna get eaten by a fucking z Like. 2:35:25.800 --> 2:35:29.720 The deeper the deeper we get in this internet, ship man, 2:35:29.800 --> 2:35:40.080 the more problems you invent then just actually exists, like 2:35:40.320 --> 2:35:45.200 everybody just we all do it, you know, mm hmmm, 2:35:45.440 --> 2:35:48.480 So we all just need to stop and slow down 2:35:49.760 --> 2:35:51.840 and be like, what's right here right now? 2:35:52.320 --> 2:35:52.520 Yep? 2:35:53.240 --> 2:35:56.880 Is somebody looking at my name tag right now with 2:35:57.040 --> 2:36:01.160 my pronouns? No ship? 2:36:02.560 --> 2:36:04.880 Can I help people right now with what I have? 2:36:05.480 --> 2:36:05.720 Does it? 2:36:05.760 --> 2:36:05.800 Do? 2:36:05.879 --> 2:36:07.240 I need to wait and TOI wpait for the future 2:36:07.280 --> 2:36:09.040 for to be able to do that. You can do 2:36:09.080 --> 2:36:20.640 it right now, right now. Mm hmm, sit heavy second 2:36:22.320 --> 2:36:25.200 the navy. Yeah, girl, I wonder if that fits into 2:36:25.240 --> 2:36:29.160 the theme somehow. She she she's like, uh, she's like, 2:36:32.080 --> 2:36:35.200 she's like sort of maybe maybe maybe that's a form 2:36:35.240 --> 2:36:37.000 of living in the past and not living in the future. 2:36:37.160 --> 2:36:40.400 Like like she met someone, she met a guy, She 2:36:40.480 --> 2:36:42.760 met a guy. She had a nice connection with him, 2:36:42.840 --> 2:36:45.039 I assume, or else she wouldn't be like caring about. 2:36:44.800 --> 2:36:47.440 He was to go to the Navy, and she was like, 2:36:47.720 --> 2:36:48.640 is this gonna work out? 2:36:48.879 --> 2:36:53.280 Yeah, but she's not living That's that's another thing of 2:36:53.360 --> 2:36:55.520 not living in the present. Like but you're in college, 2:36:55.800 --> 2:36:58.680 you're in Utah. Now, what's what's going on around you? 2:36:58.800 --> 2:37:01.720 And not like you know with this guy, like who 2:37:01.760 --> 2:37:02.880 are the people directly in front of you? 2:37:03.120 --> 2:37:04.560 He's somewhere in the fucking. 2:37:05.760 --> 2:37:06.360 He's in Japan. 2:37:06.480 --> 2:37:09.840 He ain't even there, He just as some coordinates. Yeah. 2:37:10.160 --> 2:37:12.920 Yeah, he's not even at a place. He's at numbers. 2:37:12.959 --> 2:37:16.880 He's in the ocean, yeah, at numbers. Yeah, leave him alone. 2:37:18.120 --> 2:37:21.800 Live in Utah, don't live in at longitude latitude sixty 2:37:21.920 --> 2:37:23.440 nine don't do it whatever it is. 2:37:23.640 --> 2:37:28.039 Yeah, don't put yourself through that. Ain't no internet out there, 2:37:28.879 --> 2:37:29.400 Zach Fox. 2:37:30.320 --> 2:37:30.680 This was. 2:37:32.560 --> 2:37:34.080 A phenomenal three and a half hours. 2:37:34.440 --> 2:37:35.080 It was a pleasure. 2:37:35.160 --> 2:37:39.560 We went everywhere. Thank you so much, Dog for being here. 2:37:40.080 --> 2:37:40.680 This was great. 2:37:40.959 --> 2:37:42.280 Fuck Yah, I'm so glad you did this. 2:37:42.760 --> 2:37:45.120 I'm so glad you came. Three fourths of a beer. 2:37:46.760 --> 2:37:53.200 I'm three in, I'm not slurring, and I'm not How 2:37:53.280 --> 2:37:56.280 drunk do you feel right now? I'm just glad I'm 2:37:56.280 --> 2:37:59.440 not getting your channel banned because we established early on 2:37:59.680 --> 2:38:00.680 what the limit was. 2:38:01.040 --> 2:38:06.080 I think when it comes to like saying stuff, it's 2:38:06.120 --> 2:38:08.280 hard to get banned. It's more like you get banned 2:38:08.320 --> 2:38:11.720 for like doing things or showing things. 2:38:11.760 --> 2:38:15.160 Balls. Yeah, like like give your balls is out? 2:38:16.760 --> 2:38:20.760 And also like you can say cunt, you can't say 2:38:21.000 --> 2:38:23.960 you can't say you can't say bad, you can't say 2:38:24.080 --> 2:38:31.080 racial slurs. Oh yeah, I think. But other than that, 2:38:32.959 --> 2:38:35.320 I think you can say anything pretty much. 2:38:35.800 --> 2:38:38.440 That's beautiful. I just saw ship fuck cunt and the. 2:38:38.600 --> 2:38:40.280 Ship fuck cunt. Can we get a can we get 2:38:40.280 --> 2:38:41.640 a ship fuck cunt in the chat? Please? 2:38:43.200 --> 2:38:46.520 This was really fun, guys. 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