Speaker 1: Hello, folks. This is Lyle. One of my big priorities
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two is to get more guests on
Speaker 1: this podcast. It is a lot of fun for me
Speaker 1: to have new perspectives and new people coming on here
Speaker 1: to sort of bat back and forth the inquiries and
Speaker 1: ideas of the callers. And I am very happy to
Speaker 1: have my first guest of twenty twenty two be rapper
Speaker 1: and comedian Zach Fox. Zach has done work with Thundercat
Speaker 1: Flying Lotus, he was a writer on the fifth season
Speaker 1: of The Eric Andre Show, and he's just an overall
Speaker 1: great dude. And we had a really nice three and
Speaker 1: a half. We streamed for about three and a half hours,
Speaker 1: but I've cut it down in this podcast to something
Speaker 1: like something like two hours and forty minutes, and it
Speaker 1: was just a really great time and I'm happy to
Speaker 1: be trying new things on this pod. Zach and I
Speaker 1: spend the first like twenty five minutes of this podcast
Speaker 1: just kind of shooting the ship between each other, and
Speaker 1: I know that that's not typically how this podcast goes,
Speaker 1: so if you do wish to skip straight to the
Speaker 1: phone calls, that starts at about twenty six minutes and
Speaker 1: twenty ish seconds in. All right, great, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Zach Fox Therapy, Gecko, Anonymous strangers from the Internet. It's
Speaker 1: a fun one.
Speaker 2: Never Get goes on the line taking your phone calls
Speaker 2: every night.
Speaker 1: Never get goes to teaching you to in your life expert.
Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm good? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? How How are you feeling in the suit?
Speaker 3: Oddly like happier?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I really appreciate that you took the time to
Speaker 1: think about your answers making because I could tell you
Speaker 1: wanted to tell the truth.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't want to bullshit you and be like, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah great, yeah yeah, because this is a step. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is you're putting a suit on, You're taking a step.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's a choice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm not going to bullshit you.
Speaker 1: Feel good? You said you feel happier? You could you
Speaker 1: peg that to anything? Like, could you you know? Is there?
Speaker 3: I think I think everybody. I think everybody's a little
Speaker 3: bit tired being themselves. All yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It's exhausting.
Speaker 3: It's really exhausting. Wake up and you're like, damn nigga,
Speaker 3: me and.
Speaker 1: Monday me again, me, Monday me Tuesdays.
Speaker 3: Every day and everybody's like, be yourself, be yourself, Like, okay, but.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be able to take a break.
Speaker 3: You need breaks.
Speaker 1: I strongly believe that what is a distance makes the
Speaker 1: heart grow fonder. That can apply to yourself for sure.
Speaker 1: Right you take a break, you you dress up as
Speaker 1: a character, and then you always gotta go back home.
Speaker 1: You gotta go back home, and then you when you
Speaker 1: come back into yourself, you appreciate yourself a little bit more.
Speaker 3: Damn, I'm doing pretty good. Yeah, you know. Yeah, then
Speaker 3: there's people who want to take advantage of that, you
Speaker 3: know that metaverse ship?
Speaker 1: Are you not into the metaverse?
Speaker 3: I'm not into Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, you know, I'm into
Speaker 3: the metaverse the idea, but Mark Zuckerberg, fuck off?
Speaker 1: Is there a a being, a character, a particular identity? Mewtwo? Yeah,
Speaker 1: be mewtwo sounds like a great responsibility.
Speaker 3: Like that's that's just even as a kid, I was like,
Speaker 3: I want to I want to do that.
Speaker 1: Would you what do you? How do you feel being
Speaker 1: mew Would you be MW two? If in order to
Speaker 1: be mwtwo you had to grind it, you had to
Speaker 1: grind out like a solemn aunt of time as mew.
Speaker 3: First, like, how how long are we talking? Like a lifetime?
Speaker 3: Like a.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking you have to put it. You have to
Speaker 1: put in a solid summer of being Meal.
Speaker 3: That's alwid some Yeah, yeah, there's nothing wrong with being mew. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just I know what I want on the other
Speaker 3: side of that. Yeah, so yeah, that's summer school. That's fine.
Speaker 1: What would you do with that power?
Speaker 3: With mewtwo power? Yeah, it's not even that I necessarily
Speaker 3: want the power, just esthetically speaking, Mew two got it?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Do you want to look like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the like the the mole, lavender skin worn in
Speaker 3: a tank, fat ass, big tail, m quite gecko ish
Speaker 3: fingers a little.
Speaker 1: He does have quite geckos because they have a little
Speaker 1: the round at the top.
Speaker 3: He's pretty reptilian, he is he is?
Speaker 1: You mentioned that, you mentioned that you need too as
Speaker 1: a fat ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is there a pokemon in particular that you think commands
Speaker 1: the most sexual power jinx mm hmm yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no next question.
Speaker 3: That's it. I mean, do you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think let me let.
Speaker 3: Me back up, because I just said that, knee jerk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can take your you can take something. I'll
Speaker 1: think of my answer.
Speaker 3: And it's not like literal sex appeal because that's what
Speaker 3: I was going very one to one with and I
Speaker 3: feel like that was a hack answer. So that's why
Speaker 3: I'm like, who has just sex feel to anything, just
Speaker 3: complete full package saying relax, relax.
Speaker 1: Vaporon is a good answer.
Speaker 3: Vaporion is a very solid answer.
Speaker 1: Oh, Onyx is a good answer too, because onx is
Speaker 1: onyx is ribbed.
Speaker 3: That's true for extra pleasure. Onyx is ribbed. Onix is ribbed.
Speaker 3: I think, uh, I think vaporion is is is solid.
Speaker 3: I feel like that might be up there that and
Speaker 3: what's the thing? Yeah article no, maybe big blue, long
Speaker 3: flowing very like article. Articuno has a Tilda Swinton kind
Speaker 3: of energy too, very like like I could tell Articuno
Speaker 3: is like Australian actress level sexy. It's like a weird
Speaker 3: it's like a Uma Thurman sexy, but it's like you
Speaker 3: respect it royal, the royal blues and the long sparkle flowies.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of. There's this like it's like
Speaker 1: a Hawaiian dancer Pokemon that it makes you fall asleep
Speaker 1: and smash bros. I don't I don't know the name.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. It's chatting what I'm
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. All they're saying, turn turns act.
Speaker 1: We good chat? How's the audio sounds?
Speaker 3: How's that now? Is this good?
Speaker 1: Soon? Made up a good point that diggle it could
Speaker 1: be a like a dildo esque.
Speaker 3: That's true. That's pretty one to one though.
Speaker 1: People are mentioning jiggily Puff. I was thinking about gigglely Puff.
Speaker 3: I don't know jiggly Puff. As far as sex appeal,
Speaker 3: shaking people go to sleep, I'm gonna stay far away
Speaker 3: from that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Not today, not today. That is not appeal. The funk
Speaker 3: out of here, jiglie Puff. Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely a problematic Pokemon problematic problematic.
Speaker 3: Jigglypuff was not trying to buy NBC.
Speaker 1: A choke also could see as problematic.
Speaker 3: I think you just need to go a step up
Speaker 3: and say.
Speaker 1: My champ, my champ, my champ is the greater.
Speaker 3: Yeah, four arms, so.
Speaker 1: That's kind of hot, actually.
Speaker 3: Definitely hotter. I'm taking my champ.
Speaker 1: You're taking a champ article.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I'm a Champ. Have you ever seen Baby Boy?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: What is that? It's a it's a black film from
Speaker 1: the nineties, star of Tyres yeah Snoop Dogg. Yeah, ving Rams.
Speaker 3: I'm forgetting a couple of other names, but ving Rams
Speaker 3: in that movie gives me my Champ vibes.
Speaker 1: And did what just when? When do you first see
Speaker 1: this movie Baby Boy? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh in the nineties?
Speaker 1: In the nineties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they played it on be et like
Speaker 3: every day, so was it was?
Speaker 1: Was his character sort of like part of of like
Speaker 1: a sexual awakening.
Speaker 3: For uh.
Speaker 1: Maybe, okay, maybe.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Ving Rams good looking dude. Yeah, he's aging,
Speaker 3: but good looking dude. You know he plays like this
Speaker 3: like aging kind of like, you know, he just got
Speaker 3: a jail, used to bang, used to like do some shit,
Speaker 3: but now he's dating Tyrese's mom.
Speaker 1: There's something attractive about a man who's lived a life.
Speaker 3: He did it, He did all this stuff in Tyrese,
Speaker 3: he's like the little pool bud ass boy. He's trying
Speaker 3: to bang look tough in the streets and he's like, look, man,
Speaker 3: I did everything, and I'll choke you out. There's a
Speaker 3: scene where he's choking him out and he kisses him
Speaker 3: on the forehead because they're fighting, and you're like.
Speaker 1: You confuse your like, how does this guy feel about me?
Speaker 1: Does he want to hurt me?
Speaker 3: Or does he love me exactly? And he came from prison,
Speaker 3: so you don't know, so they attractive about mystery. I
Speaker 3: saw someone say they saw me driving on the highway
Speaker 3: one time.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah.
Speaker 5: They did?
Speaker 1: They mention what highway? No, that's pretty interesting. But we're
Speaker 1: able to like spot you.
Speaker 3: Whenever someone says something like that, I never think they're lying.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like a lot of people look like you? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I could have theoretically just been another guy like you.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. I feel like anytime somebody see
Speaker 3: a light skin do with a mustache, they like is that?
Speaker 3: Because I'll get like mentioned on Twitter and they're like
Speaker 3: are you in Quebec right now? And I'm like, why
Speaker 3: the fuck would I be in Quebec? And yeah, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know, but I always believe when
Speaker 3: someone's like I saw you on the highway, I'm like, yep,
Speaker 3: why not?
Speaker 1: Why not just say yep? That's where I would just
Speaker 1: to make them feel good good? You know, why a
Speaker 1: cross your dream.
Speaker 3: Because also, I've always wanted to see a celebrity or
Speaker 3: somebody on the highway. I don't even care who it is.
Speaker 3: I don't even see my friends on the highway, and
Speaker 3: we all live in the same city. I'm never seeing
Speaker 3: somebody on the highway.
Speaker 1: Have you well, I'm not. I'm not looking into other
Speaker 1: people's cars.
Speaker 3: Typically, Oh I'm nosy, you are, Yeah, I'm so nosy.
Speaker 3: I will I will, I will die. If my girlfriend
Speaker 3: said I think that that is it could be the
Speaker 3: fucking the dude who sold me hennessy at the liquor store.
Speaker 3: She's like, Oh, that's that guy. I will turn my
Speaker 3: head in the car on the highway.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something. Do you think that because
Speaker 1: you are nosy and looking at other people's cars, that
Speaker 1: also translates into you being more anxious that other people
Speaker 1: are looking at you.
Speaker 3: No, because I want people to look at me while
Speaker 3: I'm driving. Really, I might have so much fun while
Speaker 3: I'm driving. I'm in a metal box listening the fucking Maxwell.
Speaker 3: I'm always cranking it, crankingt R and B. I like
Speaker 3: to imagine everybody's looking at me while I'm driving.
Speaker 1: Really, because I feel like the when you're like alone
Speaker 1: and you're like singing along to music. I know, well,
Speaker 1: just me personally, that's a time when I don't want anyone,
Speaker 1: Like there's something more embarrassing than like for me. If
Speaker 1: I'm singing along to a song or something like that
Speaker 1: and then I notice I'm not alone and other people
Speaker 1: are watching.
Speaker 3: That's all I want, really, that's all I want. All
Speaker 3: I want is for someone to be like, is that
Speaker 3: motherfucker singing Kirk Franklin right now? And then they join in, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and we're just at a red light and we have
Speaker 3: this moment together, like, yeah, that that happened recently, somebody
Speaker 3: was listening to uh my music wasn't crank, but my
Speaker 3: window was down and the car next to me pulled
Speaker 3: up and he was listening to music soul Child, and
Speaker 3: he was listening to it really loud, and I looked
Speaker 3: over at him and I just did one of these
Speaker 3: I just went, mmm, you know that point? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: and he went yell, just all ahead yet like it
Speaker 3: was an old black guy had a f a door on,
Speaker 3: look like he was.
Speaker 1: Just you know, that's a beautiful moment with a stranger.
Speaker 3: It is beautiful. It's beautiful. Because you're you know, you
Speaker 3: two will never see each other again, and y'all just
Speaker 3: connected over a couple of notes of a song.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did it make you feel was there any type of
Speaker 1: like validation in there of like you felt like your
Speaker 1: your your music taste was being validated, your human experience was.
Speaker 3: Zeing validated more like human experience? Yeah? Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: it's that, Yeah, because like you know, you just we're
Speaker 3: all just in these cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just isn't it Hey, isn't it crazy that? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that this happens all the time with our
Speaker 1: car crashes, but most of the time we have like
Speaker 1: all these cars and they don't touch each other. Yeah
Speaker 1: they should they like there should be Like I know
Speaker 1: that there are car accidents all the time.
Speaker 3: There should be car.
Speaker 1: Accidents every minute, every minute. How are all these cars
Speaker 1: piled up not touching each other?
Speaker 3: You know what's so funny about that statement is that
Speaker 3: I was driving on the way here from from mid
Speaker 3: City and I'm going, I'm coming down here, We're in
Speaker 3: what where do we in? Marina? And I'm driving here
Speaker 3: and I go in my head, how do niggas be
Speaker 3: getting a car accidents? Just don't hit a car. I
Speaker 3: literally I said that in my brain to myself. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So it's just funny that we just had the opposite
Speaker 3: kind of feeling.
Speaker 1: You said how people had to oh you you were?
Speaker 1: You were.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how do you get in an accident?
Speaker 1: I feel like it's so easy to die in your
Speaker 1: car and get into an accident.
Speaker 3: And I know statistically it is, Yeah, but every time
Speaker 3: I get behind the wheel and I go out and
Speaker 3: do a couple of errands and I get back home,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, part of that felt like I was
Speaker 3: about to Really, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm over confident in my driving skills. Maybe i'd live
Speaker 3: in a you know, safe enough area where it's not
Speaker 3: that crazy, because Okay, if.
Speaker 1: You're during during the day, you're sitting at your in
Speaker 1: your house, you're like watching TV, you're at your desk, whatever,
Speaker 1: and then you get into a box and you drive
Speaker 1: as fast as you can, and then and then on
Speaker 1: a two lane road there's another person also as fast
Speaker 1: as you can. Like, if there's any point in your
Speaker 1: when you're sitting around at home and you're not doing anything,
Speaker 1: there's like five there's less than one percent chance that
Speaker 1: you want you'll die, and then when you get into
Speaker 1: your car, the chance that you'll die ninety It goes dramatic,
Speaker 1: goes from really nothing like maybe you could have a
Speaker 1: brain aneurysm, maybe you have a heart attack, and then
Speaker 1: and then it goes to the top.
Speaker 3: Because because what is America death is Like number one
Speaker 3: is heart disease. Yeah, I think is number two? Car accident,
Speaker 3: car accidents, someone like, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like cancer is in there. Cancer is in there.
Speaker 1: Someone someone said number two is depression.
Speaker 3: Got it?
Speaker 1: People killing themselves?
Speaker 4: Got it?
Speaker 3: Damn damn nah, not that many people killing themselves. Suicide
Speaker 3: is not it is if heart disease is Michael Jordan,
Speaker 3: who is the Scottie Pippen of killing Americans? That's what
Speaker 3: I'm I don't think that is suicide.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be cancer. Oh, some people said opiate's.
Speaker 3: Second ist respiratory issues, obesity.
Speaker 1: Cod covid' is getting up there.
Speaker 3: Suicide is a top ten cause of death in America,
Speaker 3: especially amongst teenagers. I think for teens it's two.
Speaker 1: Fuck for number for one for I feel I don't
Speaker 1: know what one is for teens, but I have to
Speaker 1: assume it's cars, you know, what's fuck? Is it fucking crazy?
Speaker 1: That's like like when I was sixteen, I was really
Speaker 1: excited to get my license, and I was like so
Speaker 1: glad that driving age was sixteen. Now that I'm an
Speaker 1: older adult, sixteen year olds should not be allowed to
Speaker 1: fucking not at all, not at all, not at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And when I was sixteen, I would like, you were
Speaker 1: fucking up. No, No, I I would like, I would
Speaker 1: like hit curves, I would get high and I would
Speaker 1: drive and shit like should not have.
Speaker 3: Fellow, I didn't start to see that's it. I think
Speaker 3: that's why I'm such a like why I have such
Speaker 3: a infantile look or like perspective on driving because I
Speaker 3: didn't start driving until way later.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, how old are you?
Speaker 3: Because I was like we were poor out, like yeah,
Speaker 3: even if I went and got my license, who car
Speaker 3: the am I going to drive? Like it's a single
Speaker 3: mother household. She's not. She didn't have a car, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. So I didn't start driving til
Speaker 3: like like I would kind of drive in my mid twenties,
Speaker 3: like I would you know, somebody like gave me the car,
Speaker 3: Like all right, I'll go get some groceries or something
Speaker 3: or like DD for people even though I don't have
Speaker 3: a license. But then like late twenties, I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, I'll go ahead and start driving.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why.
Speaker 3: And I've just been blown away because I'm thirty one
Speaker 3: now and every time I hop in the car, I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is so fun.
Speaker 1: Really every time. That's nice that you still have that,
Speaker 1: like I feel like a twelve year old. That's not
Speaker 1: because when I it's nice that you still have that excitement.
Speaker 1: Because when I was sixteen, when I was fourteen or fifty,
Speaker 1: like right before I got my license, I wanted nothing more.
Speaker 1: I was, you know that like I'll be happy when blank.
Speaker 1: That was my I'll be happy when I can drive you.
Speaker 1: And now now I'm gonna and now I can drive,
Speaker 1: and I the amount of happiness that I get from
Speaker 1: being able to drive, it's like there's nothing. I never
Speaker 1: I don't think about it. It's just another it's just has
Speaker 1: it's gone through being this thing a bump of serotonin,
Speaker 1: No bump of serotonin. It's gone from this thing that
Speaker 1: has been like the ultimate goal of mine.
Speaker 3: Too.
Speaker 1: Then this is another fucking part of my dad.
Speaker 3: M there's something to be said about that. I feel
Speaker 3: like everybody's always like, you know, you got it. If
Speaker 3: there's something you want to do in life, do it
Speaker 3: right now, you know what I mean? And I feel
Speaker 3: like it should be like, if there's something you want
Speaker 3: to do in life, do it right now out unless
Speaker 3: you're sixteen.
Speaker 1: So that's a good caveat because.
Speaker 3: First off, you're like, you're not gonna remember that well
Speaker 3: and you're gonna waste all this like sixteen year old serotonin,
Speaker 3: because it's like, of course, when you're sixteen, you're happy
Speaker 3: to drive, you're gonna be happy to skydive, You're gonna
Speaker 3: be happy to do whatever the thing is. No, I'm waiting.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting because I want to do what's the movie
Speaker 3: bucket list? Yes, i want to do it when I'm old,
Speaker 3: and I'm just trusting that I won't die on my
Speaker 3: car before I can do it. But I'm trying to
Speaker 3: get that maximum serotonin out of whatever it is. Not
Speaker 3: just like there's only just.
Speaker 1: Wants to press them, butte right, there's only so many
Speaker 1: wonderful life experiences available. You don't want to you want
Speaker 1: to burn them all at once. Yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you have, I would even say, if you're
Speaker 3: a virgin, m keep waiting. Bro fucking gets the curve,
Speaker 3: yes of not only the skill of your fucking and
Speaker 3: the people you're fucking and the things that you're able
Speaker 3: to do to each other's junk, the curve just spikes.
Speaker 3: It just goes up. It just goes up. It just
Speaker 3: goes up. It just goes I was just in Colombia. Yeah,
Speaker 3: met a eighty year old documentarian who worked for National
Speaker 3: Geographic and PBS. I met him because we were sitting
Speaker 3: at a bar at our hotel. He fell out of
Speaker 3: his chair because his chair was on like some shaky sand, right.
Speaker 3: He falls out of his chair and I'm like, this
Speaker 3: eighty year old dude just fell out of his chair.
Speaker 3: He's dead. He's got to be dead. This motherfucker hops
Speaker 3: back up like tight in the nineties, dusts himself off,
Speaker 3: and he's like, oh, I'm good, I'm chilling, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: what's your story. He starts telling me about what he does,
Speaker 3: and he starts telling me about all his lovers, and
Speaker 3: he goes, you know you're not gonna believe me, but
Speaker 3: I'm the only man in this world who's made love
Speaker 3: on all seven continents, Antarctica, Antarctica. Said he made love
Speaker 3: to a Chilean woman while he was doing a documentary
Speaker 3: and Antarctica for PBS, and he said, his secret is maka.
Speaker 3: What is maka Peruvian macha powder. It's a root from
Speaker 3: Peru that grows out there naturally. This story doesn't end
Speaker 3: with the he roofeed all these people doesn't. No, No,
Speaker 3: it's just what he It's just what he takes every
Speaker 3: single day. He's been taking it since he was twenty two.
Speaker 3: And I was like, because I'm I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 3: thirty one. My girl's forty. The sex just gets better,
Speaker 3: is like he said. It's like like for men and women.
Speaker 3: It just like it raises your sex drive, gives you
Speaker 3: more endurance, more energy just in your regular life. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, I gotta I gotta get a
Speaker 3: promo code for some Maca bro, get some Maca right,
Speaker 3: start taking it. It's not you know what I'm saying earlier, Like,
Speaker 3: it's not like a button you push in tomorrow. It's
Speaker 3: not my agress.
Speaker 1: So he's been playing the long macka play the long
Speaker 1: Maca game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you play the long game with that ship and
Speaker 3: he said, he looked me in my eyes, eighty year
Speaker 3: old white man Pierre. He said, the best sex I
Speaker 3: started having in my life didn't happen till I was
Speaker 3: in my sixties. Wow. And I said, fucking what. He
Speaker 3: was like, I shit you not. He was like, the
Speaker 3: lovers get better because you about to die. You were
Speaker 3: about to die when you turn. When you hit sixty,
Speaker 3: the clock starts taking. That's the shot clock. Yep. And
Speaker 3: he said, everybody, everybody's like in this club of like,
Speaker 3: we about to die, so we about to get it in.
Speaker 3: I want that. I want that.
Speaker 1: That would make sense that people are do you feel
Speaker 1: like people people will then be more down for like
Speaker 1: sort of kinkier types of sex in the same way
Speaker 1: that everyone's like, I'll try heroin when I'm eighty.
Speaker 3: I think kinkier, but I also think just like more
Speaker 3: connectedness with sex, you know, more more just like.
Speaker 1: Do you think would you predict that the emotional intimacy
Speaker 1: also increases.
Speaker 3: The intimacy and the maturity. I feel like he was
Speaker 3: telling me about how, like, you know, you get older
Speaker 3: and old people they'll just be like, like fucking and
Speaker 3: it'll be like a handshake, but it'll be like an
Speaker 3: em like they connect him, but then afterwards it'll be
Speaker 3: like now we can both. We're both just going on
Speaker 3: with our lives and it's like a maturity and like
Speaker 3: a like you are your own thing. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: back across the planet. But yeah, still lovers. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: that's some that's some sick shit. Yeah that's sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, guys, I feel like when you're well, when
Speaker 1: you're you know, sixty or seventy or something, you're not
Speaker 1: looking for another person to complete you as much. You're
Speaker 1: your own every theo. Both parties are sufficiently independent people
Speaker 1: merely looking for for an intimate experience with one another yep,
Speaker 1: but not necessarily trying to depend on each other yep
Speaker 1: to complete each other's line because.
Speaker 3: They did their journey already.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 3: People be out here fucking like trying to put puzzle
Speaker 3: pieces back in their heart and shit.
Speaker 1: I feel like that. I mean, that's the common theme
Speaker 1: that I feel like a lot of people are called
Speaker 1: in with is like they feel like they've gotten too
Speaker 1: old to do X, Y and Z, and then you
Speaker 1: and then you always hear of a story of a
Speaker 1: guy being like, yeah, my life didn't pick up until
Speaker 1: I was sixty seventy eighty, whatever it is you want to
Speaker 1: show Yellowstone. I keep hearing about it.
Speaker 3: That motherfucker didn't start writing until he was in his fifties. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy who the guy who wrote that shows.
Speaker 3: Made Sakari up.
Speaker 1: I don't know, wasn't uh you a squid game?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how old he was, but I
Speaker 1: know that he was like working on that ship for
Speaker 1: a decade, a decade, a decade, and then people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: if I'm not doing X by.
Speaker 3: Whatever, twenty, I'm gonna kill myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why they the depression rate of what like
Speaker 1: that's that's that's That's a great segue into taking some cars.
Speaker 7: Hello Jack, Jack yak Yeah, Jack, Jack yak.
Speaker 1: Jack, I'm here with Zach Fox.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: I heard that you're seeking advice on sugar Mama's.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I'm kind of at a crossroads, a little more
Speaker 2: of the lemma, if you will, And I didn't know
Speaker 2: really who else to ask about it. Hate my job,
Speaker 2: not making enough money, and I'm really starting to consider
Speaker 2: the sugar baby lifestyle looking for sugar Mama.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, well how do you how do you feel
Speaker 3: about that decision, like, do you feel like that's something
Speaker 3: that would make you happy or do you feel like
Speaker 3: it's just the next logical step and you're running out
Speaker 3: of options.
Speaker 2: The thing is, I find I find that a lot
Speaker 2: of my unhappiness really just stems from a lack of money.
Speaker 2: So I think in that regard, I think it would
Speaker 2: make me quite happy. But it's really just the uh,
Speaker 2: the morality of it, if you will, like the the
Speaker 2: idea of someone paying for you and and taking care
Speaker 2: of you. And you know, I'm a young man. I'd
Speaker 2: like to be, you know, independent if I could, and
Speaker 2: two things for myself. But it's it's getting skinned to
Speaker 2: the point where I'm starting to just let that idea
Speaker 2: go and download some of these apps and put myself
Speaker 2: out there.
Speaker 1: And now, would you consider a sugar daddy, because I
Speaker 1: I don't know what, I don't know what I feel
Speaker 1: absolutely because I was gonna say, well, because I feel
Speaker 1: like the the market.
Speaker 2: For a.
Speaker 1: Like the the sugar mama to male sugar baby, I
Speaker 1: feel like it's probably a buyer's market for the sugar mama,
Speaker 1: and so it might be a little bit more difficult
Speaker 1: to find a sugar mama than a sugar daddy, unless if.
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 6: What do you?
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you? How would you describe your build?
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm pretty pretty good shape. I'm twenty three.
Speaker 2: I work out literally every day. I always get some
Speaker 2: abs in. So I think I'm I think I'm uh,
Speaker 2: you know, at least top top twenty five percent on
Speaker 2: the attractiveness scale. I think I have a decent personality
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I think I I think I
Speaker 2: could talk one of them into it. You know, I
Speaker 2: gotta I got a good h a good sense for words.
Speaker 2: So I'm optimistic. There's there's a couple of different apps.
Speaker 2: There's a seeking Arrangements Cougar, a couple other ones.
Speaker 3: I than nine, I'm fully on board.
Speaker 2: Yeah what you uh, you guys are on board. You
Speaker 2: don't think it's a little a little a weak move.
Speaker 6: On my part.
Speaker 3: I mean, and I and I get what you were
Speaker 3: saying earlier about you know, the independence and and all
Speaker 3: that stuff, but you know, we're in We're just in
Speaker 3: different times, man, We're in completely different times where you know,
Speaker 3: those those dynamics are out the fucking window. The only
Speaker 3: place in a few years and a few couple decades.
Speaker 3: The only place you're gonna see that kind of like
Speaker 3: patriarchal shame around not being the independent, strong breadwinner that
Speaker 3: your dad told you you're supposed to be. This is
Speaker 3: some madman shit. This is going out the window. And
Speaker 3: I think, I think, I think everybody has a right
Speaker 3: to enjoy being a sub and or being or being
Speaker 3: as long as it's as long as it's a contract,
Speaker 3: like it's a consent between two people, you should be
Speaker 3: able to say yeah, like okay, I'm this and the
Speaker 3: situation or where this or whatever the levels is as
Speaker 3: long as y'all are deciding. So you going through these
Speaker 3: apps is the right it's the right way to do it.
Speaker 3: You're not trying to go find it, you know, in
Speaker 3: the club or something. If you did, that'd be great.
Speaker 3: But you're trying to find it the place where it's at.
Speaker 3: So I don't see the problem, do you what?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want I want somewhere where they're already looking,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Right, And why do you feel is that a thing
Speaker 1: you feel shame about? A sort of like you said,
Speaker 1: you don't want to feel weak. Do you feel a
Speaker 1: shame about being like a a a sub type in
Speaker 1: a in Do you feel shame about being a non
Speaker 1: dominant the non dominant in a relationship?
Speaker 2: I mean when you say non dominant, I assume you're
Speaker 2: not referring to sexually. But yeah, I do feel a
Speaker 2: bit of shame of like a woman paying for all
Speaker 2: my my expenses and not really providing anything to her financially.
Speaker 2: That that's just never It's just foreign to me, if
Speaker 2: that makes sense. But yeah, I guess I do feel
Speaker 2: a bit ashamed about it.
Speaker 3: Where is that what your dynamic was with your with
Speaker 3: your mom and dad? Like was your dad like kind
Speaker 3: of like role model, like taking care of the whole,
Speaker 3: like taking care of business kind of guy. So you're
Speaker 3: looking at him like I'm supposed to do that, Like
Speaker 3: what what is that weakness feeling?
Speaker 2: No, not not really. My dad's more of a more
Speaker 2: of a mom than a dad. He's a not really
Speaker 2: that way at all. But it's just something that you know,
Speaker 2: I just see in society and I respect, you know,
Speaker 2: when a man is providing for his wife or for
Speaker 2: his kids and stuff. Yeah, and I do want to
Speaker 2: have kids and I don't want them to see me
Speaker 2: as a weak man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So if if being a sugar baby. If
Speaker 1: you were to take off the table, what sort of
Speaker 1: a path would you like to take to start making
Speaker 1: more money? Are you trying to go back to school?
Speaker 1: Are you trying Is there a job in particular that
Speaker 1: you would like to have.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted to start my own business, but as
Speaker 2: I as I get older and I just have less time,
Speaker 2: I've struggled to get the money in the time to
Speaker 2: really focus on that. And so I kind of have
Speaker 2: always had this entrenreneurial spirit and I don't really want
Speaker 2: to give up on that. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I deliver pizzas right now, and I still live with
Speaker 2: my mom and I'm twenty three, So it's like it's
Speaker 2: starting to get you know, you know, time is of
Speaker 2: the essence here and starting to feel the pressure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I want to stop you right there, man,
Speaker 3: because it's literally what we were just talking about that
Speaker 3: everybody has this like everybody has these these clocks, and
Speaker 3: then they have these norms, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: And then the norms are battling against your clock, and
Speaker 3: you're like trying to figure out what you need to do.
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing wrong with you delivering pieces and living with
Speaker 3: your moms right now, Deliver the fuck out of them
Speaker 3: pizzas right now. Deliver the shit out of those pieces
Speaker 3: right now, and do it to the best of your
Speaker 3: capability and meet people and gain stories that you'll probably
Speaker 3: never ever get again, because delivering pieces you meet more
Speaker 3: people than a fucking I'm sure like an uber drive,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then at the same time,
Speaker 3: if you want to be a sugar you're twenty three.
Speaker 3: If you want to be a sugar baby, do that shit,
Speaker 3: and then double up and start thinking about what business
Speaker 3: you got around because sex work don't make you weak,
Speaker 3: you know what i mean. If anything, that shit probably
Speaker 3: fortifies you so that you know, you forty now you're
Speaker 3: going into your old age, you forty fifty, and you
Speaker 3: got a better outlook. And say you got a daughter,
Speaker 3: a son, You're not gonna be looking at them like
Speaker 3: they week or fucking fucking they head up with these
Speaker 3: norms about how you're supposed to move in the world,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like you'll have more respect
Speaker 3: for your fellow man, and and yeah, ship might be
Speaker 3: hard and might be awkward at points in time, and
Speaker 3: you might be put yourself in some situations that feel
Speaker 3: kind of sketchy. But you know you you're a man.
Speaker 3: Do you think you're a man?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, then you're a man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's not up it's not up to society. It's
Speaker 1: not up to any of your fucking friends. If they're
Speaker 1: giving your ship, it's not up to anybody to define you,
Speaker 1: to define your timeline on you. You know, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's exactly where we're talking.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've talked to them, but I
Speaker 1: was doing this stream out. I've been doing this stream
Speaker 1: out of my mom's house for a long time. You know,
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong.
Speaker 3: Well, you know how you know how many motherfuckers wish
Speaker 3: that they had a mom's house to even be at
Speaker 3: so they could be delivering pizzas or working at Best
Speaker 3: Buy or working at I'm all Circuit City don't even
Speaker 3: exist no more. But like, you know, working wherever. Like
Speaker 3: that's a blessing in itself that your mom is like, yeah, baby, whatever,
Speaker 3: whatever my son doing, like, it's gonna work out. It's
Speaker 3: gonna and and you twenty three, bro, go be a sugar,
Speaker 3: be a fucking just sugar it up. Man, do do
Speaker 3: whatever you gotta do live life.
Speaker 2: But before yeah, I never really considered that.
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, what's your name again?
Speaker 2: Jack?
Speaker 1: Jack? Before we go? What is like the what is
Speaker 1: like the number one goal? You said you want to
Speaker 1: start a busines? There's like a business in particular that
Speaker 1: you have your eyes set on. I'm curious.
Speaker 2: The only thing I'm really passionate about, and you can
Speaker 2: probably relate to this, is kind of helping people.
Speaker 4: Like I love to give advice.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to school for eight years
Speaker 2: to be a therapist, but I do. I love helping people,
Speaker 2: so I'm trying to kind of match that with the business.
Speaker 2: But there's nothing really that I've kind of settled on
Speaker 2: or came too.
Speaker 3: If you want to help people, if you want to
Speaker 3: help people, it's going to come through and whatever you
Speaker 3: end up doing. I'll say that because when I was
Speaker 3: when I was, you know, nineteen twenty twenty one or whatever,
Speaker 3: I ain't know that I wanted to do what I
Speaker 3: was doing right now. All I knew, though, is that
Speaker 3: I wanted to make people feel good. I want to
Speaker 3: make people laugh, you know what I'm saying, And the
Speaker 3: seed of that idea is more important to take with
Speaker 3: you than sitting there and wondering do I need to
Speaker 3: go to school? Do I need to do this? Uh?
Speaker 3: You just follow that, follow that desire and hope that
Speaker 3: it manifests into some ship that's gonna be fun for
Speaker 3: you to do. And if it don't switch that ship up.
Speaker 2: All right, well I appreciate that. And I like the
Speaker 2: advice of maybe getting a sugar mama and then building
Speaker 2: my business from there. I never really thought about that,
Speaker 2: but uh, yeah, this is this has been helpful.
Speaker 1: Thank you both, of course, Jack, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for calling.
Speaker 3: Thank you Jack.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's sweet kid.
Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna say, it's so funny that
Speaker 1: you what you were just saying, because I've said that
Speaker 1: on the stream a thousand times. The germ of the
Speaker 1: idea of like the germal very general idea, like I
Speaker 1: want to help people, I want to make people laugh.
Speaker 1: Even even if then if you're if if the germ
Speaker 1: of your idea is like I want to make money,
Speaker 1: or like like following the germ of the idea rather
Speaker 1: than like I want to be a doctor, I want
Speaker 1: to like the specific thing following the general Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that that widens there's infinite ways too, there's like really
Speaker 1: one way to become a doctor, but there's infinite ways
Speaker 1: to help people. You know, people get stuck with like.
Speaker 3: Think about what building they want before thinking about like
Speaker 3: the actual materials and like the journey of getting percent.
Speaker 3: They're just like shopping for their ultimate identity, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And there's nothing wrong with Well, there's
Speaker 3: people out here who are like, No, I was six,
Speaker 3: and I was I knew I was going to be
Speaker 3: a heart surgeon, and I became a fucking heart surger.
Speaker 3: That's great, But the vast majority of human beings are
Speaker 3: like in their forties fifties still like I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're still I work at this bar and I just
Speaker 3: want to make people YadA, YadA YadA.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing is that like Jack delivers pizzas,
Speaker 1: like you like you're helping people fucking delivering pizzas, Like
Speaker 1: you don't have to think about like the grandest way
Speaker 1: possible to help people. You still can, but like you
Speaker 1: can do both, Like you can like help people right
Speaker 1: now in the one to one way that you're doing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one at a time, one pizza at a time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this weird like cause you never want to
Speaker 3: tell people to be complacent, right, yeah, you know, like
Speaker 3: everybody has a potential. Yeah, so it's like this, like
Speaker 3: I don't know what you call that, like this like
Speaker 3: balance between complacency and fervor for what you could get.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be complacent, but you also you
Speaker 1: don't want to delay your happiness, right, so because you
Speaker 1: can just you can do that for infinite you do that.
Speaker 3: Forever because I'm I wouldn't tell Jack to deliver pieces
Speaker 3: till the end of time if that's what made him happy,
Speaker 3: But it seems like that's something he's trying to knounce
Speaker 3: out of. But I think he should enjoy it while
Speaker 3: he's here.
Speaker 1: Right right, Like if he's on the shift, there's no
Speaker 1: reason to not be like Nigga, I'm delivering pieces, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but you like that's they're not mutually exclusive. You can
Speaker 1: be that and also be like I'm delivering.
Speaker 3: Pizzas and I'm gonna I'm gonna do it to the
Speaker 3: next exactly exactly because you deliver the shit out of
Speaker 3: that pizza. There's something that, like humans, you get out
Speaker 3: of doing small stupid tests like that and doing them. Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I used to work at Jimmy John's and UH in
Speaker 3: Atlanta downtown, and this was like kind of the crazy
Speaker 3: part of downtown UH. And I started working there and
Speaker 3: I was gonna be a bike delivery dude. I was
Speaker 3: gonna deliver sandwiches. I had to be like nineteen twenty
Speaker 3: and I was finna drop out of school. I was like,
Speaker 3: fuck it, I'm finn deliver the sandwiches bro the week.
Speaker 3: Like a few days before I get the job at
Speaker 3: Jimmy John's, my bike gets stolen no, and I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 3: what am I going to do now? So I go
Speaker 3: to old boy the manager. I'm like, yo, my bike
Speaker 3: got stolen. He's like, I mean you're a bike delivery guy.
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you gonna do now? And I
Speaker 3: was like, well, look a lot of these delivery because
Speaker 3: it was the heart of downtown. So I was like
Speaker 3: a lot of these delivery locations are like across the street,
Speaker 3: two blocks, three blocks, four blocks. No, motherfucker. I ran.
Speaker 3: I ran with sandwiches through downtown Atlanta, sprinted and sometimes
Speaker 3: you know what would happens. Sometimes the motherfuckers who were
Speaker 3: biking would get trapped somewhere like in traffic or have
Speaker 3: to lock their there was a time window where they
Speaker 3: had to lock their bike up. But they're going into
Speaker 3: the sun Trust building or something like you gotta lock
Speaker 3: it up. They're not gonna let you in with that.
Speaker 3: I'm already running up the steps getting to where I'm
Speaker 3: delivering Boom, I'm back down. I'm across the street. I'm
Speaker 3: getting my tips. Some days I would leave the more
Speaker 3: tips you.
Speaker 1: You don't need the bike to go at bike speed.
Speaker 3: No, I was dusting them, looking at like why you
Speaker 3: got that shitty ass mongoose mountain bike if you can't
Speaker 3: really push it to the limit.
Speaker 1: I love that though, because because you did, you weren't
Speaker 1: like you weren't like sitting and crying about it. You
Speaker 1: were like, I'm gonna run.
Speaker 3: Fuck this shit, fuck the ship. Run and it's a
Speaker 3: funny ass story. You twenty three delivering pieces, bitch, get
Speaker 3: a story out of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I appreciate when you said that, because I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like I get like that sometimes, where like,
Speaker 1: you know, there are part times in my life where
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, now I'm doing this, but soon
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be doing that, and it's like, well, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're forgetting to even live in what you're doing right
Speaker 1: now and like get the stories out.
Speaker 3: Of and you building a habit the habit of doing that.
Speaker 3: You building a habit of doing that because then now
Speaker 3: you're gonna get to the other thing and not even
Speaker 3: appreciate this exactly.
Speaker 1: That's always happens, Ashley.
Speaker 2: Hello, how are you?
Speaker 1: Ashley? I'm I'm here with Zach. We're talking to people
Speaker 1: on the phone. What's what's your life like, Ashley?
Speaker 7: Hi?
Speaker 5: I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 9: Actually, it's very excited. You're very hard to get ahold of.
Speaker 9: Yesterday I called you one hundred and seventy seven times,
Speaker 9: but today I called once.
Speaker 1: So here we are, hell hellya. IM happy to have
Speaker 1: you on, Ashley. Is is there anything in particular that
Speaker 1: that you'd like to talk about? Pegging off the bat?
Speaker 1: What's your level of experience with this topic?
Speaker 3: Minimal? But like I can I could rock, I could
Speaker 3: rut with a conversation.
Speaker 10: Okay, wait asking are you asking?
Speaker 4: Zach?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 1: I now ask you?
Speaker 9: Okay, So I don't have any experience taking it actually,
Speaker 9: but it's something that I really really want to do.
Speaker 9: But I can't find somebody who would be okay with it,
Speaker 9: and that's my problem. I'm want to talk about, like
Speaker 9: why people can't just normalize pegging. Why there's such a
Speaker 9: big stigma around it? Where you live actually, Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 3: You from Savannah, Georgia. Well, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3: I'm from Savannah, Georgia.
Speaker 11: I was in Atlanta the other day.
Speaker 3: I'm also from Atlanta, Georgia.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I heard about your Jimmy Jones experience.
Speaker 3: When you when I think you just need to get
Speaker 3: up out of Savannah. I think that's I think that's
Speaker 3: all you need to do. Yeah, I think as soon
Speaker 3: as you start hanging out in Atlanta, you're gonna find
Speaker 3: some freaky motherfuckers that's gone off the perks who are
Speaker 3: like baby girl.
Speaker 9: That was is so weird that you say that?
Speaker 3: Did I say? What? Oh? In Atlanta? Yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: long story.
Speaker 9: Anyways, What about like what is are your guys' views
Speaker 9: on pegging? Like would you ever let a woman peg you?
Speaker 10: Why?
Speaker 9: Or why not?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 3: Okay, here's my thing about pegging and butt stuff just
Speaker 3: for me as a man, just as man. I've spoken
Speaker 3: about this before. I don't have the like, oh I
Speaker 3: don't want you to do that because I'm this, I'm that,
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, Like once a man and a woman
Speaker 3: are together, everything's on the table. Sure, But for me,
Speaker 3: I'm just never one percent sure that my butthole is
Speaker 3: that ready to go. I'm never one hundred percent. And
Speaker 3: I'll say this, I'll say this. It'll like I'll take
Speaker 3: full showers, I'll do the whole thing, spread cheeks, let
Speaker 3: water get in there, like I wash. But even when
Speaker 3: I get out, the moment I get out, I feel
Speaker 3: like my ass is dirty. Yes, And as much as
Speaker 3: I want to be hey, yeah, as much as I
Speaker 3: want to be like, hey baby, let's do the pegging
Speaker 3: thing tonight, as soon as it starts, I would be like,
Speaker 3: I'm fin the duchy, Like there's definitely duky. There's dukie.
Speaker 3: There's gotta be dukie on it. There's definitely. And I'll say,
Speaker 3: my girl loved me. I know if there was some dukie,
Speaker 3: she wouldn't care. But that's just something that's I gotta
Speaker 3: do the work. So I'm just giving you an example
Speaker 3: of the work that I got to do at my
Speaker 3: level of comfortability with it, where a lot of dudes
Speaker 3: they got a whole, they got a whole slew of
Speaker 3: levels where they just might not be like comfortable with
Speaker 3: it at all. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep it's hard to clean your asshole
Speaker 1: to a point where you're like.
Speaker 3: And I'm not going to clean and I'm not going
Speaker 3: to douche my ass. I don't want to. Really, I
Speaker 3: don't want to douche my ass.
Speaker 9: I think maybe it's different for guys because like a
Speaker 9: lot of I know, most guys' assholes are hairy, right,
Speaker 9: Like I shaved my butthole so like, and I'll really
Speaker 9: scrub at it and I can feel that it's clean, you.
Speaker 8: Know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, I'll be scrubbing it and feelings clean.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, you gotta hear you. You gotta hear
Speaker 3: you as well.
Speaker 1: Y'all have a huge I have an extremely hairy ass,
Speaker 1: so like I have a very hairy body. I mean,
Speaker 1: like my belly is already pretty and this is like
Speaker 1: my assholes.
Speaker 3: Like forced And that's what I'm saying. So you expecting
Speaker 3: the motherfucker, like wow, to not only get over his
Speaker 3: his belly hairs and arm pits, but not only that,
Speaker 3: to get over your whole idea of being of like
Speaker 3: manliness and be like yes, I'm okay with booty stuff, sure,
Speaker 3: and torking my booty up in the air and getting
Speaker 3: getting ate up and blown out and all of that
Speaker 3: stuff by my girl. Yeah, you asking somebody to get
Speaker 3: over that and then also get over their body here
Speaker 3: and all these different levels. It's a lot of different
Speaker 3: levels of shit that that like men gotta go through
Speaker 3: to get comfortable with that. So what I actually just
Speaker 3: suggest like it's a lot of freaky motherfuckers in Atlanta
Speaker 3: that have already done that work within themselves and they
Speaker 3: ready to just get it in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how important is it to you because you say
Speaker 1: that you wanted to be normalized in that, Like like
Speaker 1: are you trying to are you trying to like be
Speaker 1: a guy's first or are you like looking for someone
Speaker 1: who's experienced in being pegged? Because I also feel like
Speaker 1: even if even if I'm not like in person at
Speaker 1: one of these dungeons or anything like that, it's like
Speaker 1: there's all these there's all these websites that you can
Speaker 1: go to where like they specialize in this kind of thing.
Speaker 9: Well, I think we kind of I don't know, because
Speaker 9: I feel like I could it could be somebody's first
Speaker 9: or somebody who is experienced. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 2: To me if I could.
Speaker 6: Cool.
Speaker 3: I'm looking for a free agent. Free that ass, free
Speaker 3: that ass actually said give it to me. I don't
Speaker 3: care if you.
Speaker 1: Know, personally, I couldn't if if and everything you described
Speaker 1: of like I it's so hard and impossible to clean
Speaker 1: my ass and to shave it and all all like
Speaker 1: to prepare. Even if I could properly prepare my ass
Speaker 1: for butt stuff, I don't think I could. I think
Speaker 1: the most I would reasonably do is have somebody to
Speaker 1: lick it. But to actually like put a thing a
Speaker 1: thing in there, I don't think I could do that.
Speaker 1: But even but even to have somebody lick it, it's
Speaker 1: like I'm never I'm never gonna get my ass clean
Speaker 1: to the point where I wouldn't feel horrendously sorry for somebody. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would never. I'd never get there. It's a fantasy
Speaker 1: to have an asshole that's clean where I.
Speaker 9: Would be like, you would feel sorry if someone were
Speaker 9: to peggy is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Well, if somebody were like putting their tongue in my ass,
Speaker 1: It's like there's no way that you're not hating this
Speaker 1: right now. I couldn't get my mind.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, the other day.
Speaker 9: The other day, I was fingering this guy's asshole where
Speaker 9: I was about to and then I've like stuck my
Speaker 9: finger there and he has a very hairy ass and
Speaker 9: I felt something like a little clump and that freaked
Speaker 9: me out.
Speaker 3: That freaked you out, And that's exactly what we say.
Speaker 9: Yeah, there was like a clump there.
Speaker 3: Like he's that's what we're saying. I felt lump.
Speaker 1: Is freaking you are?
Speaker 3: Did you bring up the clump?
Speaker 9: I did not bring up the clump. I didn't want
Speaker 9: to embarrass him.
Speaker 3: Real nigga, I'll fuck with you. I'll fuck with you,
Speaker 3: see that. And that's what we're scared of, is that
Speaker 3: I just somebody gonna feel the clump and go clumb alert,
Speaker 3: clumb alert. He's got dookie, And now my ego and
Speaker 3: confidence is shattered. Yep, you know so I respect you
Speaker 3: for not bringing up the clump.
Speaker 9: No, yeah, I didn't want to. Yeah, no, I wouldn't.
Speaker 9: I wouldn't bring up the clump.
Speaker 1: I actually take it off, but I did not stick.
Speaker 1: If there's I want to know, it's actually my it's
Speaker 1: actually my namemarre that there is a clump, there is
Speaker 1: something wrong, and they don't tell me because I want it,
Speaker 1: because if because I want to be prepared for next time,
Speaker 1: because I don't want what I think is clean to
Speaker 1: not be the right the right answer. I want the truth.
Speaker 1: I feel that so that way I'm prepared next time.
Speaker 3: I feel that too.
Speaker 9: If he would have asked me, I would have told him,
Speaker 9: But he didn't ask me. I just don't think he
Speaker 9: knew it was there, and I feel like if I
Speaker 9: would have brought it up, it would have been embarrassing.
Speaker 9: I didn't want to put myself in that situation. That
Speaker 9: is fully naked man in front of me has been strange.
Speaker 3: A word of advice. Actually, a man has gone through
Speaker 3: all of the work to get comfortable enough to let
Speaker 3: you finger, lick and peg his asshole. The last thing
Speaker 3: we're about to do is turn around and go, hey,
Speaker 3: was there Duchie in my ass That's the last thing
Speaker 3: that he's about to do. He's about to get up.
Speaker 2: I guess he's.
Speaker 3: Gonna straighten on his back and walks out of that
Speaker 3: room like Superman and pretend you know nothing just happened,
Speaker 3: or do whatever he needs to do to be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm still I'm man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So he's committed. He's committed, So you got to you
Speaker 3: gotta do the work and be more urgent and be
Speaker 3: like hey, hey, like.
Speaker 11: It's a clump, right, or I could just tell to
Speaker 11: geckos and two thousand people on the internet about it,
Speaker 11: or do.
Speaker 1: You do feel do you feel better having talked about
Speaker 1: the subject now that now that it's said and done,
Speaker 1: I kind.
Speaker 9: Of yeah, I think so, Like I understand more about
Speaker 9: why guys don't want to do it now, which is
Speaker 9: what I was trying to get to, Like maybe they're
Speaker 9: just not comfortable in their own skin or whatever.
Speaker 1: By the way, there might be a guy out there
Speaker 1: who is like, who is like they actually maybe that's
Speaker 1: part of they get off on the fact that their
Speaker 1: asshole is that they got club. They actually want to
Speaker 1: have clumps and then clumps.
Speaker 3: There's clump.
Speaker 1: There's a beautiful thing about the world is all sorts
Speaker 1: of different people who want all sorts of different things.
Speaker 3: There's a clump gang out there, and.
Speaker 1: We live in an interconnected society in which the clump
Speaker 1: lovers and the clump as can find each other and
Speaker 1: make beautiful.
Speaker 3: Love damn clump light, I hope.
Speaker 1: So thank you very much for calling Ashley.
Speaker 9: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 3: She's great. I think Ashley just needs to hang out
Speaker 3: on Edgewood Avenue?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that a place in Savannah?
Speaker 3: That in Atlanta? Just find her a bisexual man on
Speaker 3: Atlanta Avenue Atlanta and Atlanta Avenue, Edgewood Avenue who likes
Speaker 3: but stuff.
Speaker 1: Hello, Evelyn, Hey, how are you with? I'm here with
Speaker 1: Zach Fox were Gecko's how is how?
Speaker 4: How are you again?
Speaker 5: I'm doing O care. I'm doing better than I thought
Speaker 5: I would.
Speaker 1: How did you think you were doing.
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 5: I just moved into new apartment for college and it's
Speaker 5: in Utah, so that's kind of myss. But I'm I
Speaker 5: feel like I got good roommates and the area is nice.
Speaker 5: I was living in my dad's parents' house before and
Speaker 5: that was not fun. So it's good to be on my.
Speaker 1: Own, Evelyn. Evelyn, it says here that you're looking for
Speaker 1: some some form of relationship advice.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So basically I met this guy on Tinder, which
Speaker 5: is which is a questionable app to meet people, but
Speaker 5: turning out, this guy and we started talking and we
Speaker 5: were probably talking for like a month and a half
Speaker 5: two months, and things were going super super well. But
Speaker 5: he actually signed in to join the Navy, and he
Speaker 5: was supposed to leave for training in the middle of February,
Speaker 5: but then they made him leave in December. And so
Speaker 5: the dilemma is that we never really had the like
Speaker 5: official relationship talk, you know, we never like set boundaries
Speaker 5: or what we were And so I did ask him
Speaker 5: before he left, like if he wanted to stay in touch,
Speaker 5: because at this point, the like training school that he's in,
Speaker 5: he's in boot camp, and we can only talk through letters,
Speaker 5: which is like the most intense form of long distance.
Speaker 1: So did you have you have like a phone or
Speaker 1: anything when you're in the you're in the Navy.
Speaker 5: I think after the first ten weeks, once he like
Speaker 5: moves to the next school, he can have a phone.
Speaker 5: For everyone say, it's like a red flag to date
Speaker 5: someone in the Navy. I did not know he was
Speaker 5: like involved with that stuff until we had started talking.
Speaker 5: And he's not like the stereotypical kind of guy, Like
Speaker 5: if you saw him on the street or talk to him,
Speaker 5: you'd never guess that he like chose as his career.
Speaker 5: M I just feel like.
Speaker 3: You're I don't know if I want not the typical ones,
Speaker 3: like the typical opinion the Navy guy is like booty stuff, right,
Speaker 3: which is like whatever, It's like, we're all he.
Speaker 5: Wasn't into booty stuff, but he was into some beauty.
Speaker 3: I will say that, Yeah, but I'm talking about you know,
Speaker 3: booty stuff with other men is what the Navy. The Navy,
Speaker 3: uh stigma is, Oh, he's about that. Here's the thing
Speaker 3: about that. The Navy doesn't produce or attract men who
Speaker 3: want to have sex with other men. The entire military does.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. The whole military is predicated
Speaker 3: on that fact that like being overseers, being deployed with
Speaker 3: a bunch of other dudes. Like not to say every
Speaker 3: man in the military is, but if I was, if
Speaker 3: I was a gay man, I'd be like, I know
Speaker 3: where I'm going, right, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a stigma. I don't think that's
Speaker 3: a fair stigma to put on the Navy. I think
Speaker 3: anything can be that, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 3: what I will say is, yeah, how old are you?
Speaker 3: You're eight? How old are you.
Speaker 5: I'm eighteen, I'm a freshman in college.
Speaker 3: Your freshman in college. My cut and dry advice. Let's
Speaker 3: move on, baby girl. You got too much, you got
Speaker 3: too much living, You got too much living to do.
Speaker 1: Very strong.
Speaker 5: So should I just stay in touch with him? But
Speaker 5: like not be serious about it?
Speaker 3: Stay in touch? You know, he going to the navy.
Speaker 3: He's gonna become he gonna become three different men while
Speaker 3: he's out there, learn about hisself. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like he's gonna be in a in a whole different world,
Speaker 3: you know, the world of dynamics that you could only imagine.
Speaker 3: So how how are y'all even gonna relate through through letters?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like he's in a completely
Speaker 3: different universe than you. And you're trying to talk to
Speaker 3: him about school, and he's trying to talk to you
Speaker 3: about God, the deck, the guns in the deck, and
Speaker 3: the fucking starbird and the ship.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna recognize half the words he's saying in
Speaker 1: these letters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're gonna be like, I guess that's cool. Like
Speaker 3: you're gonna lose You're gonna lose interest faster, faster than
Speaker 3: I put on this gecko suit, and it's.
Speaker 1: Like are you are you? Did you move out of
Speaker 1: state to go to college or are you going to college?
Speaker 1: Like were you kind of already like hot people?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm originally from Washington State and so I'm going
Speaker 5: to school in Utah. But I met him here in Utah.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, if your your first red flag is that
Speaker 3: he's from Utah, that's where you should.
Speaker 5: Have just yeah, that is very true.
Speaker 3: You should have now. And I'm I'm letting you off
Speaker 3: the hook because you're eighteen and you're learning about life
Speaker 3: and you're supposed to get out there and make mistakes
Speaker 3: and and and it's child by fire. I'm thirty one
Speaker 3: to just just right off Utah. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 5: Also, I wanted to circle back to what Zach was
Speaker 5: saying about Mark Zuckerberg earlier. I have this theory about him,
Speaker 5: so recently he's been creating the metaverse and kind of
Speaker 5: he's low key taking control of all virtual realities what
Speaker 5: I feel like he's doing. So I had this theory
Speaker 5: like what if and it kind of ties into like
Speaker 5: the simulation theory, but like, what if we're just living
Speaker 5: in Mark Zuckerberg's metaverse? Right, now I feel like some
Speaker 5: evidence is that Mark Zuckerberg has a wife and she's
Speaker 5: actually kind of pretty, like she's pretty attractive. So I
Speaker 5: would say like he could have just made a wife
Speaker 5: and family for himself, because there's no way he's ever
Speaker 5: touched to a woman like a real woman before. What
Speaker 5: are your guys' thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, look, if you have enough money,
Speaker 1: like I don't think it's I think I think now
Speaker 1: Here's the question is does Mark Zuckerberg's wife love him
Speaker 1: for who he is? Would Mark Zuckerberg's wife of Mark
Speaker 1: Zuckerberg were he not to the Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3: Would she take a Will she take a bullet for him?
Speaker 3: Type ship? That's what you're saying?
Speaker 1: Like this, she really she wouldn't. I don't think she
Speaker 1: don't think she would take a I don't think she
Speaker 1: would take a bullet. I don't know if she truly
Speaker 1: loves him, but that she wouldn't take a she's all
Speaker 1: that much she could she could love him, But I
Speaker 1: think that she loves that she has attached herself to
Speaker 1: something in life where she will never have to think
Speaker 1: about anything utility, at least any sort of paperwork ever
Speaker 1: again there is.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a completely Scott free life, because you
Speaker 1: do get memed on heavily for for dating Mark Zuckerberg.
Speaker 3: Sure, but what the fuck is a meme when you
Speaker 3: infinite in it wealth that you couldn't spend if you
Speaker 3: lived two thousand times?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think, But I wonder coming from every direction.
Speaker 1: But as long as your as long.
Speaker 3: As your billions of dollars dollars? Why do you even
Speaker 3: why are you even on the internet?
Speaker 1: Trade?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, she doesn't see those memes.
Speaker 1: No, she doesn't.
Speaker 3: She doesn't know she's the Internet and knowing Mark, he's
Speaker 3: a fucking robot. He lets her have all types of
Speaker 3: sexy Dominican six pack ab.
Speaker 1: You think, so she can have sex with whomever. You
Speaker 1: think that's you think that's the deal.
Speaker 3: I think that's the deal.
Speaker 5: They have kids, though, Yeah, they have They have like
Speaker 5: two or three kids.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 1: I really wonder where those kids.
Speaker 3: Where did those kids come from?
Speaker 1: They're gonna be.
Speaker 5: They're probably just robots like they Oh wait, they're real.
Speaker 1: I could see one of his, you know. And like
Speaker 1: in these dynasties, there's always like there's a black sheep
Speaker 1: that goes like my family. One of the Trumps did that.
Speaker 1: One of Mark Zuckerberg's kids I believe will at some
Speaker 1: point come out and be like, I this man is
Speaker 1: my father. I will confirm for sure he is a robot.
Speaker 1: I could see one of his kids coming in like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. As far as the metaverse stuff, I don't
Speaker 3: know anymore.
Speaker 1: We I was. I've been thinking about it. I think
Speaker 1: whether or not I like it, it is one thing,
Speaker 1: but it seems inevitable that, yes, we are going to
Speaker 1: live in the metaverse. We already all live online. Everyone
Speaker 1: watching this right now, isn't everyone in this chat lives online.
Speaker 1: They're already interacting with each other.
Speaker 3: Hm, We're already.
Speaker 1: We're really already there. It's just getting us. It's just
Speaker 1: when are they gonna put the headsets on? Like in
Speaker 1: the SpongeBob movie when Blankton has the bucket hat thing
Speaker 1: that that's where we're going. But we're already there. We
Speaker 1: were already in the metaverse.
Speaker 3: And once everyone else is there and you decide not
Speaker 3: to be, you will be so alienated and your life
Speaker 3: will be such a lonely hell that you'll wake up
Speaker 3: every day and pain from not making the decision to
Speaker 3: go to the metaverse. That's how rough they're going to
Speaker 3: make it. I think if this thing is real, like,
Speaker 3: if they're serious about it, they're doing they're doing billions
Speaker 3: of dollars of analytical research into our psychology every day,
Speaker 3: collecting data. They know exactly what could make me, that
Speaker 3: could break me down to my most lowest common denominator, sadness.
Speaker 3: They know what about you, everybody in the chat you, Ashley,
Speaker 3: So the next step, like they could just do whatever?
Speaker 1: Is that comforting for you to hear, Evelyn?
Speaker 5: Honestly, no time made me feel wait.
Speaker 1: Down, damn well, thank you so much for calling us.
Speaker 5: How about you, guys, how do you feel about that?
Speaker 1: Again? I'm of the opinion it's like how I feel,
Speaker 1: how I feel doesn't matter because it's it's an inevitability.
Speaker 1: We're all going we as I said, we all already
Speaker 1: live in the internet. I mean, I'm on Instagram and
Speaker 1: stupid Discord and TikTok. I'm already. Well, I'm already I'm
Speaker 1: already living in the Internet. It's just a matter of
Speaker 1: when they're gonna tape it to my head, which is inevitable, Evelyn.
Speaker 1: Any final thoughts, feeling, sentiments, comments, concerns.
Speaker 5: All I have to say is that I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 5: I appreciate your honesty, and that you guys are real
Speaker 5: and it was good talking to you, and I hope
Speaker 5: you guys have a great night.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 3: We appreciate you. Say no to you talking all right? Dumping?
Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you to do me a favor?
Speaker 1: Could you take this next call while I go to
Speaker 1: the bathroom.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and uh when you get back, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: have to have to.
Speaker 1: Go to the bathrooms.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the beers, but tack team, can you can you
Speaker 3: tee me up because I'm yeah, absolutely if you if
Speaker 3: you tee me up with it, I can.
Speaker 1: And I'll be quick. I'm not gonna be like I'm
Speaker 1: a quick I'm a quick period.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, and I'll let you Let's see, let's
Speaker 3: do this, let's do this, te me up on the call,
Speaker 3: don't let's let's like go pee before they asked what
Speaker 3: their question.
Speaker 1: Is, We'll do it. We'll do it.
Speaker 3: We'll do an introduction, yes, and then I'll take the
Speaker 3: top of the question and then when you come back
Speaker 3: from ping yes, just get back into their question.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 3: Without even knowing the first half of it. Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that challenge because I feel like I feel
Speaker 1: like I feel like I'm up for that to just
Speaker 1: enter in the middle of the conversation.
Speaker 3: And just pick it back up totally. Okay, Okay, let's see.
Speaker 1: Hello, is this Nie?
Speaker 6: Yo's good?
Speaker 1: Na, I'm doing great. I'm here with I'm here with
Speaker 1: Black Fox.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 6: What's good is Zach?
Speaker 3: What's up? Doug? How you knowing?
Speaker 1: Yo?
Speaker 6: I'm not yo. Bro, you put me on the Betty Wait.
Speaker 3: On, God, I'll put you on the Betty way.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 6: Hell yeah, bro? When you dropped that dropped that Jesus
Speaker 6: is but one blass day back in the day.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm happy that I could bridge a generational gap
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but our pr.
Speaker 8: Yeah but anybody?
Speaker 6: How you doing it?
Speaker 2: Dad?
Speaker 3: You said, how are we doing it? I'm doing great,
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good as well. I I can't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I can't understand what you're saying. Very well?
Speaker 6: Oh sorry about that? Is it? Is it a whole
Speaker 6: bunch of noise in the background.
Speaker 1: No, no, Now, I can hear you well, Hello.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we can hear you.
Speaker 1: Well. How do you feel about how do you feel
Speaker 1: about this? Do you want say, for a little longer?
Speaker 3: Do you feel let's yeah, let's do it. I think
Speaker 3: you can go. Okay, okay, I'll be right, I'll be
Speaker 3: right back. I I predict, yeah, I predict.
Speaker 1: I predict that will be no longer than two than
Speaker 1: three minutes.
Speaker 3: I believe you wait, peeing with it? You just take this? Okay, beautiful?
Speaker 3: All right? I feel good? All right? Uh nye, all right?
Speaker 3: What's what's on your mind?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Whats going on?
Speaker 6: It's a lot. It's just a lot, man, h I
Speaker 6: have a lot going on right now. That's on how
Speaker 6: to come about it? Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 6: I am a okay, so I'm an entrepreneur FORIRL and
Speaker 6: I just like money, you know. And last year I
Speaker 6: did it.
Speaker 3: It made it.
Speaker 6: I don't know if I just said I made a
Speaker 6: dumb decision, but I mean there was some outcome out
Speaker 6: of it, you know. But uh, I decided to take
Speaker 6: a risk and hop one point of you know, and uh,
Speaker 6: I blow some videos and those videos kind of caught fire.
Speaker 6: And I want to say, like a few of my
Speaker 6: videos have at least like on average, my videos have
Speaker 6: at least like ten k as far as use, and
Speaker 6: uh like, let's say I have a kid, you know,
Speaker 6: and uh, you know, like what like what happened? Like
Speaker 6: how do I come across there? Let's say like in
Speaker 6: the next few years like this, I'll become freaking Johnny
Speaker 6: since you know, and like how would I how would
Speaker 6: I explain my kids? Like how would I tell my
Speaker 6: kids about that?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: All right, let me walk back through this now, just
Speaker 3: so I make sure I got all the facts straight.
Speaker 3: You're an entrepreneur, you just you like making the money.
Speaker 3: Last year you started putting pouring up. I'm assuming starring
Speaker 3: yourself on porn Hub, yes, and and your dilemma and
Speaker 3: your question is how you would relay that to your children?
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming. So I'm assuming that your face is
Speaker 3: in your face is in these videos.
Speaker 6: I mean like like two of them. I mean it's
Speaker 6: not like there's two of them, but like they're very visible,
Speaker 6: you know, and like I don't like, okay, like you
Speaker 6: know those videos on YouTube or like like there's been
Speaker 6: videos on YouTube that I've seen, like of kids like
Speaker 6: getting bullies for that and like going to school. Oh,
Speaker 6: your mom's the only fans star you know?
Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmmmm. Are you doing Are you doing these videos?
Speaker 3: And I just have a couple of are you doing
Speaker 3: these videos with one like dedicated co star or is it.
Speaker 6: Like other like uh this mhm, So as of right now,
Speaker 6: it's one dedicated co star and like we're getting like
Speaker 6: I mean, I wouldn't say like it's like stable and
Speaker 6: come off of it, but it's it's it's like it
Speaker 6: could be it could be a little bit more better,
Speaker 6: you know. But and like I know I can like
Speaker 6: I got a sense of how fast things can catch fire,
Speaker 6: you know, after like I'm not trying to promote myself
Speaker 6: at all, but like I do TikTok every so often,
Speaker 6: and like like a few months ago, like one of
Speaker 6: my videos ended up hitting the mill then like I
Speaker 6: don't want that to happen in like, you.
Speaker 1: Know, real quick, how do you feel?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like that's scary that that
Speaker 6: was a scary moment for.
Speaker 1: Me, you know, And tell me more about why it
Speaker 1: was a scary moment for.
Speaker 6: You, because like I've never had no like nothing like
Speaker 6: that happened, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and yeah, are you like are you uncomfortable
Speaker 1: about being perceived?
Speaker 6: Like uh, if you say you can say that, you
Speaker 6: can say that, like but like within with then that's
Speaker 6: like I don't know, man, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, And tell me about tell me. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you said you're with the dedicated You're with a dedicated
Speaker 1: co star, right, yes, sir? And what how do the
Speaker 1: how do?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 1: What is your relationship to them?
Speaker 4: Is this?
Speaker 1: Uh, it's a romantic relationship. It's a friendship.
Speaker 6: Yes, rely very it's a very romantic relationship. But like
Speaker 6: I don't like, like could I see this as being
Speaker 6: a long term thing, you know, as far as like
Speaker 6: me continuously doing that like uploading videos and doing all
Speaker 6: this stuff.
Speaker 1: So all these concerns that you have about how your
Speaker 1: kids might feel, about how you might be perceived, the
Speaker 1: general concerns that I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: who do this this kind of work feel Have you
Speaker 1: talked to them through with your co star and if
Speaker 1: you have, what are their feelings on that?
Speaker 8: She's all for.
Speaker 1: She's all for it?
Speaker 4: Like she's all for and like I.
Speaker 6: Like, I just don't know how to feel about that
Speaker 6: because you know, like like I don't I do it
Speaker 6: out of love? You know? And yeah, like because like
Speaker 6: it's something like like I didn't I didn't. It wasn't
Speaker 6: originally my eye idea.
Speaker 1: But so then let me ask you another question. You
Speaker 1: say that you do you have a romantic relationship with
Speaker 1: this person with your co star. Do you feel like
Speaker 1: producing this content together has has it brought an extra
Speaker 1: layer of intimacy to your relationship or do you feel
Speaker 1: it has been detrimental to that intimacy?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that extra layer has been brought, Like definitely, Like
Speaker 6: I'm doing stuff I thought I'd never do, you know, hmm,
Speaker 6: Like I've never put it to in my mouth.
Speaker 3: Until now, Like you know, it sounds like this dynamic
Speaker 3: is a win for you and your partner right now?
Speaker 10: Do you think so?
Speaker 3: That's what it seems to me.
Speaker 5: And I.
Speaker 3: Would be I'd be remiss. I'd be lying to you
Speaker 3: if I told you that your fears and your anxieties
Speaker 3: aren't warranted. Not from a standpoint of not from a
Speaker 3: standpoint and let me clarify, because not from a standpoint
Speaker 3: of what other people are going to think about you,
Speaker 3: but because if that is a fear that you have
Speaker 3: with what the Internet is and how it exists today,
Speaker 3: things happen when you have that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: if that's something you're afraid of, then maybe reconsidered. But
Speaker 3: if it's not, if it's something that you could be like,
Speaker 3: look at me, so post me. So if it's something
Speaker 3: that you would own and be like, yes, this is
Speaker 3: this is something that I am not ashamed of at all,
Speaker 3: then guess what. There's no fear to be had and
Speaker 3: you can just run off. But I would say that
Speaker 3: I could search through thousands of pages on porn hub
Speaker 3: and never once see anyone that I know, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, or any you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like I think you're in there.
Speaker 6: Like I'm just like I'm just because you know, you
Speaker 6: know how like Facebook kind of works like like or
Speaker 6: like not like Instagram. Sometimes you're around somebody been able, pulled, recommended,
Speaker 6: you know, yeah yeah, also you're yeah, like dad need
Speaker 6: some crazy messages something like that.
Speaker 1: You know your kids are going to grow up. I
Speaker 1: believe I feel like the trajectory of society is getting
Speaker 1: more understanding and progressive. I feel like your kids, well, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like middle schoolers will eternally
Speaker 1: be horrible, unthinking on empathetic people. But I feel like
Speaker 1: society as a whole it's getting more more progressive, more accepting.
Speaker 1: By the way I was thinking about this, if you don't,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, oh, what if it was your
Speaker 1: mom or if my mom told me today she wanted
Speaker 1: to start doing porn.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, whatever makes you happy.
Speaker 1: I don't give a shit.
Speaker 3: But okay, but but what if your mom did porn
Speaker 3: back in the day, sure, when she was nice age
Speaker 3: or in her mid twenties. If your mom or your
Speaker 3: dad did that and someone brought it to you in
Speaker 3: a way to stab or roast it at you, to
Speaker 3: grade you, how would you feel about this?
Speaker 1: I can under if I'm thirteen, I can understand not
Speaker 1: having the emotional skill set to own it right now.
Speaker 1: If I would own it, I'd be like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, my mom's a human being. She has
Speaker 1: other facets of her life than just being my mom, right,
Speaker 1: you know? But at thirteen, would I have the emotional
Speaker 1: maturity to really understand that? Probably not. So I understand that.
Speaker 3: But I think that there's a happy medium here now.
Speaker 3: I think that you can keep doing what you're doing
Speaker 3: and keeping this dynamic and the money flowing, but maybe
Speaker 3: throwing a couple more precautionary things maybe don't show faces.
Speaker 3: Maybe you do. Maybe maybe you figure out what your
Speaker 3: level of comfortability and anonymity is in this, in this relationship,
Speaker 3: so you don't have to feel like, you know, one
Speaker 3: day you're going to have a twelve year old who
Speaker 3: comes home and got in a fist fight because he's
Speaker 3: defending mom. You know what I mean, Because every every
Speaker 3: twelve year old boy is going to fight over mom
Speaker 3: or dad. You know what I mean? Everybody, you know,
Speaker 3: we can't accept we can't expect them to be as
Speaker 3: mature and like l'Os like grown about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
Speaker 3: When you think about other people, you have to. But
Speaker 3: I also, but your kids don't exist yet, It's true.
Speaker 1: But also I don't know. Maybe maybe maybe this is
Speaker 1: a naive thought. But maybe this is a naive thought,
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe this brings with it. And again I
Speaker 1: think you should take your precautions. I think you should,
Speaker 1: if it makes you feel comfortable, wear a giant unicorn
Speaker 1: mask or not showface or whatever it is you got
Speaker 1: to do. But also I could.
Speaker 6: See you actually thought about doing some mess like that,
Speaker 6: like putting a ski mask on some like throat like
Speaker 6: thriller stuff.
Speaker 8: You know, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like the ski mask and adds some other sort
Speaker 1: of sort of elements. But also maybe this, maybe this,
Speaker 1: maybe this affords you, and I don't know, maybe this
Speaker 1: is a naive thought, but maybe it affords you an
Speaker 1: opportunity when your kids are thirteen to sit down with
Speaker 1: them and say, listen, your mom and me, we have
Speaker 1: had lives outside of just being your parents and this
Speaker 1: and that, and have that sort of conversation. And maybe
Speaker 1: that does Maybe that does something good for your kid.
Speaker 1: Maybe that grows them up a little bit more than
Speaker 1: their peers. I don't know, but it's it's possible. But
Speaker 1: again I I I agree. I think you should do
Speaker 1: whatever is to your of course, something that they do,
Speaker 1: whatever is to your comfort.
Speaker 6: Level understood, And I thank you for that than needed.
Speaker 1: Of course, thank you so much for calling. No is
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to say before we go?
Speaker 6: Hey man, I just want you all to have a
Speaker 6: wonderful year, have a great day tomorrow, Stay safe, don't
Speaker 6: do smoke weed, don't do drugs though through your thing,
Speaker 6: you know, for yourself. And yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: An thank you for having keeps good, keep fucking.
Speaker 1: All right, all right here, we do that, all right,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I feel so much
Speaker 1: better having pete. I feel loosey goosey right now, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel I feel yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I came back and I was like it. Honestly,
Speaker 3: it felt like there was so much happiness from peeing
Speaker 3: that nis problems. I had to I had to work to.
Speaker 1: Put yourself back into Yeah.
Speaker 3: To recenter not It took a little bit.
Speaker 1: It takes a little It takes a bit to like empathy,
Speaker 1: like you have to. You have to do it sort
Speaker 1: of consciously adjust to how he's feel.
Speaker 3: You got a hard job.
Speaker 1: I don't think about the fact that people are listening,
Speaker 1: that people can like when I talk to I don't
Speaker 1: think about the fact that there's like, however many thousand
Speaker 1: people listening, because because if I did, if I really
Speaker 1: truly internalize that, I'd be paralyzed. Yeah right right, I'd
Speaker 1: be like or I'd just go crazy, or I'd be
Speaker 1: like too afraid say anything, right, because it's vast I
Speaker 1: don't think the human brain can even has the capacity
Speaker 1: to do that, though it's not supposed to do that. There's,
Speaker 1: like I said, this, all the experience of twitch streaming,
Speaker 1: of like parasocially interacting with a check like.
Speaker 3: It goes against every law of God put in place
Speaker 3: to keep us Yes, apes, yes, it's not. He failed, yes,
Speaker 3: miserably to keep whatever virus we are can like contained.
Speaker 3: We're not even supposed to be on like trained like
Speaker 3: fucking subway platforms, let alone the internet. Let alone the Internet.
Speaker 3: I liked.
Speaker 1: I like thinking about that though, because then if like
Speaker 1: if the Internet is making you like depressed or anxious,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, of course, it's.
Speaker 3: Literally what it's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you know, that's that's It's the experience
Speaker 1: of twitch streaming is not anything remotely that people should be.
Speaker 3: It blows me away. Yeah, every day I never get
Speaker 3: over any of this. I'm always like.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's what's fun about like calls though, is that
Speaker 1: like it's like that experience, the experience of like having
Speaker 1: a conversation with a person like we're doing right now
Speaker 1: or like we do with the calls, is more digestible
Speaker 1: than like trying to talk to.
Speaker 3: This collective of.
Speaker 1: People in a in a well, because I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm talking to them one at a time, right, That's
Speaker 1: how I feel like I is because I don't I
Speaker 1: try to look at the chat when I'm talking on
Speaker 1: the phone, So I feel like I'm talking to chat,
Speaker 1: but just one at a time, the way that supposed
Speaker 1: to talk to each other.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it keeps you saying.
Speaker 1: I want to see what's in the queue?
Speaker 8: Hello?
Speaker 3: Hi is us dev?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 3: This is the dev.
Speaker 1: How are you doing? I'm here with.
Speaker 8: On the call.
Speaker 1: You're on you're on the call, you're on the show.
Speaker 1: How do you feel?
Speaker 6: Yo?
Speaker 8: Holy shit, that's so cool?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 8: Can you hear me?
Speaker 12: Fine?
Speaker 8: Hopefully that don't sound weird?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can hear you. Great? Mm hm.
Speaker 8: Cool, awesome. Okay, So I want to know what do
Speaker 8: y'all do whenever y'are like stressed on, like just a
Speaker 8: weird situation and you gotta like put your head back
Speaker 8: in the focus, because man, I get anxious all the time, Like,
Speaker 8: oh dude, I ended up in the er the other
Speaker 8: day and they're like, yeah, man, you having a pan attack.
Speaker 8: Go home. I'm like, all right, that'll be a fat
Speaker 8: satin bill.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What do you typically do when you're when you're anxious?
Speaker 1: Do you have a thing.
Speaker 3: I wish I could I wish I could say that
Speaker 3: I did you know, there's a multitude of things that
Speaker 3: I can try, but nothing really works besides just sitting
Speaker 3: and trying to breathe and just work through it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Because I get anxious, fuck like social anxiety. Like I
Speaker 3: picked the worst possible career stand up to have anxiety
Speaker 3: with just why just performing period? It's nerve wracking, it
Speaker 3: can it can kill you see to early grades. But
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think you just gotta be
Speaker 3: like Hella, in tune with when it's about to happen
Speaker 3: and have your own personal whatever your language is to
Speaker 3: deal with that ship. Some people are like they need
Speaker 3: they gotta be on ZNAX or they gotta be on
Speaker 3: something that that was a mount I choose to. I
Speaker 3: have ADHD. Yeah, I just take because at the ADHD
Speaker 3: funks with my anxiety. Yeah, so I take Omegas fish oil.
Speaker 1: Yeah, heard about that.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, e Pa fish oil, and
Speaker 3: that's like, that's like brain loop. So I would suggest
Speaker 3: doing some of that ship. Get you some fish oil, megas,
Speaker 3: get a find a good brand, go on Reddit and
Speaker 3: find out who got the good ass fish oil. Because
Speaker 3: I don't know, do you do you take medication for
Speaker 3: or do you not?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm I'm on like three medications and take two
Speaker 8: into depressants and it takes well. Now to anxiety medications. Okay, okay,
Speaker 8: I got that super depression of super.
Speaker 3: D I feel that. I feel you. I feel you. Yeah, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I salute you, dog. I salute you just for being
Speaker 3: honest about it and talking about like for real, for real,
Speaker 3: like everybody got their own little what do you do?
Speaker 8: I'm fucking I'm a college student and I fucking work,
Speaker 8: and I'm also in the middle of trying to figure
Speaker 8: out what I'm doing in my life because like I
Speaker 8: thought I had a plan and I was doing everything
Speaker 8: for it, and then I fucking got into nursing school
Speaker 8: and then I got kicked out before school even started,
Speaker 8: and I was like, okay, well, I don't know before
Speaker 8: I'm gonna do. I'm fuck, dude, in twenty four I
Speaker 8: still don't have a degree or like a path that
Speaker 8: I'm like falling to. I just take random ass classes
Speaker 8: every single mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: How's your how's your diet?
Speaker 8: But let's just ask. But because of the scare that
Speaker 8: I had the other day when I went to the er,
Speaker 8: I've been like working out every day since then, and
Speaker 8: I'm like, I'm trying to get that ship on point. Yeah,
Speaker 8: because I'm like, you know what, No, that ship was
Speaker 8: way too scary. I'm going to fix this ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's a workout, Yeah, don't. It definitely is.
Speaker 3: It's not a complete fix, but definitely exercise and eating right.
Speaker 3: When I say eating right, you already know what I'm saying, Like, bitch,
Speaker 3: I eat them Taco bell wings the other day and
Speaker 3: I'm telling how it was. It was awful, but also
Speaker 3: your body, like eventually it's gonna start punishing you for that.
Speaker 3: You know you what's that?
Speaker 12: You know?
Speaker 3: You make all the fucking happy chemicals in your stomach?
Speaker 1: Did you say Taco bell wings? Did?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That thing?
Speaker 6: It is?
Speaker 3: It is, And I would I would listen, go on
Speaker 3: your own adventure, but I would not recommend it.
Speaker 1: You said that all of a lot of our happy
Speaker 1: chemicals are made in our stomach.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I I consistently under under whatever it is, the
Speaker 1: underestimate the effect of my diet on my mood. I'm
Speaker 1: always you always think it's like something external and it's like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, I've just been eating a bunch of horrible
Speaker 1: things all the time.
Speaker 3: I've been eating a bunch of bad shit. And like
Speaker 3: my shirt was too wrinkled, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean.
Speaker 3: It'll be it sometimes it will be and like you know,
Speaker 3: people will like clinical ship. You can never I would
Speaker 3: never tell somebody who's clinically depressed or anxious or whatever
Speaker 3: they're like, oh, switching to the plant based it's gonna fix.
Speaker 3: It's gonna fix you forever. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Nothing is a fix, but would it maybe help you tremendously.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's worth the shot. It's worth a shot.
Speaker 3: It's worth the shot, and you won't get cancer.
Speaker 8: You said that, which is funny because like everybody, what's
Speaker 8: not funny? Everybody in my family gets cancer. No cap.
Speaker 1: Real quick kind of to tap this into something we
Speaker 1: were talking earlier, what is it that you ultimately Okay,
Speaker 1: when we were talking earlier about like the germ of
Speaker 1: the idea versus the actual thing that you want to do, right,
Speaker 1: so like your actual like narrow path is like okay,
Speaker 1: I want to be a nurse, but like what what
Speaker 1: is it what is beneath that? Like, is it that
Speaker 1: you want to help people? Is it that what what's
Speaker 1: what's under what's underneath that, like, what's the what's the
Speaker 1: core desire that we're working with here?
Speaker 8: For sure? So I know a lot of people want
Speaker 8: to go into nursing. They're like, oh, I want to
Speaker 8: help people. I'm like, that's bullshit, No you don't. You
Speaker 8: just want it because it's decent money and all this
Speaker 8: other stuff. But when I was in high school, I
Speaker 8: saw this movie called Patch. I don't I feel like
Speaker 8: familiar with it. Ye okay, So that made me want
Speaker 8: to just go into the medical field. I don't care
Speaker 8: what it was. I just actually wanted to help people
Speaker 8: because like I wanted to do something like some shit
Speaker 8: like that. So originally I was like, you know what,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get out of school. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 8: med school and I'm gonna do all this shit and
Speaker 8: I try to figure out a way to do this,
Speaker 8: and then I realized I'm dumb as fuck. I can't
Speaker 8: do that. So I'm gonna do nursing and still try
Speaker 8: to make an impact because like, at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, I genuinely want to help people. It's like
Speaker 8: at that point, I don't care about the money, you know,
Speaker 8: I've been broke. I was broke when I was born,
Speaker 8: poor girling up still technically road of shit. At least
Speaker 8: I got a job now though, so it's like fuck
Speaker 8: the money. I get a lot on toys from like
Speaker 8: helping people with whatever it may be. That's why I
Speaker 8: want to be a nurse. But then I got into
Speaker 8: like psychology and like microbiology and like other ways you
Speaker 8: can help people in those rooms as well, and it's
Speaker 8: like I don't know what the fuck to do.
Speaker 4: I'm just.
Speaker 8: I do want to help people, that's my mangel.
Speaker 3: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: Have you explored just like in a in maybe a
Speaker 1: brainstorm exercise or anything like that, Like because you said
Speaker 1: you got kicked out of nursing school, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if you I don't know if that means that
Speaker 1: you don't want to be a nurse anymore, if you
Speaker 1: can't be a nurse anymore, but like, have you really
Speaker 1: sat down to like think about all the various ways
Speaker 1: that would be interesting to you in which you could
Speaker 1: help people that aren't just yeah.
Speaker 8: And that's where I get stuck because they're like I
Speaker 8: want to do this and that, and then I also
Speaker 8: want to do this another thing, and then another thing,
Speaker 8: and then I end up enjoying more stuff. And because
Speaker 8: like another thing that happened, I started reading a lot
Speaker 8: when I got kicked out of nursing school, and that
Speaker 8: got me into like a neurology, psychology, microbiology. Then I
Speaker 8: took a microbiology course and I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 8: shit's cool, like learning about virology and ichnology and all
Speaker 8: that other shit. And I was like, there's so many
Speaker 8: ways to help people, but I don't know what they'll
Speaker 8: fuck to chose.
Speaker 3: Mmmm, here's what. And I don't you know, I'm picking
Speaker 3: my words carefully, but I do feel like we kind
Speaker 3: of got on this topic earlier. And I do feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, once you pick a thing and you go
Speaker 3: along the road with that thing and figure out what
Speaker 3: you like about it and what you dislike about it,
Speaker 3: you can always switch out of that thing. But picking
Speaker 3: that thing and just going at it with everything that
Speaker 3: you got, you're gonna figure out how you help people
Speaker 3: within that world. You know what I'm saying. You might
Speaker 3: not a motherfucker might not think, oh, I can help
Speaker 3: people by going into XYZ, by going into construction. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But if you just traveled
Speaker 3: far enough down the road of being a motherfucker who
Speaker 3: lays bricks and drills the sidewalk, and then ten years
Speaker 3: from then you don't know where you're gonna land. It
Speaker 3: might not be in construction or whatever. But I think,
Speaker 3: and I might be wrong, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm always wrong is wrong or right sometimes. But I
Speaker 3: think if you pick something and you just go at it,
Speaker 3: you'll figure out how to help people with it. And
Speaker 3: I think that that's like the most human shit is
Speaker 3: that everybody's like, Okay, I got a pencil, a paper clip,
Speaker 3: clinical depression, I got kicked out of school, and I
Speaker 3: got a car. How the fuck do I help people
Speaker 3: with with? And you think you have nothing because it
Speaker 3: looks like you ain't got shit, But motherfucker deal with that.
Speaker 3: Like go with that and help you. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Get smarter, get better. I don't know what
Speaker 3: what can you do with what you have? What can
Speaker 3: you do what the fuck you got right now?
Speaker 1: Like like why do you need a fancy Why do
Speaker 1: you need a fucking fancy nursing degree? Why do you
Speaker 1: need all the things that society says you need to
Speaker 1: help people? What can you do because you want to, Like,
Speaker 1: I like, we all want to help people. If if
Speaker 1: me and Law wanted to go, if we wanted to
Speaker 1: help people right.
Speaker 3: Now outside of you know, talking to y'all and talking
Speaker 3: to people, we could go outside right now, and it's
Speaker 3: people intents across the street who are probably like, man,
Speaker 3: I could really use a new pair of shoes or
Speaker 3: a sandwich or a tampon. I really hope somebody comes
Speaker 3: along with a sandwich, a new shirt or a tampa.
Speaker 3: You could always help people. It's everywhere. It's everywhere all
Speaker 3: the time, Like, go outside right now, and and and
Speaker 3: just look and just look, go outside right now, look
Speaker 3: to your left, and you're right, somebody need help. So
Speaker 3: is it that you want to start there or do
Speaker 3: you want to start with you? And I don't know.
Speaker 3: Both of those answers seem correct.
Speaker 8: No, I absolutely understand.
Speaker 3: I'm just a drunk nigga in a fucking gecko costume.
Speaker 3: Do you what do you?
Speaker 8: What do you think?
Speaker 1: What do you like? Sort of sort of to kind
Speaker 1: of like you, I mean, what do you what do you?
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? The fact that you
Speaker 1: like thinking about what definitely true.
Speaker 8: Cool Because I met back when I used to work
Speaker 8: in the coffee industry. I worked at this shop and
Speaker 8: this guy came in and he was a nurse, but
Speaker 8: he dropped that or he quit his a nursing job
Speaker 8: to go to medical school. And before that, when he
Speaker 8: was in school, he did a lot of work with
Speaker 8: the homeless population in Dallas. So he was like a
Speaker 8: manager of a suit pation in some all all this
Speaker 8: other stuff and something that happened to him when he
Speaker 8: was a nurse. He had a patient down from the homeless,
Speaker 8: and he was like, if I would have been a doctor,
Speaker 8: I would have more control over that situation and I
Speaker 8: can'll probably save the patient. And that's what made him
Speaker 8: do that. And that's where I'm like, damn, I understand
Speaker 8: in that too. So it's just an extent that like
Speaker 8: I want to have the ability to affect people in
Speaker 8: a certain way because in another way, like another thing
Speaker 8: that pushes me towards like the science field and doing
Speaker 8: ship like that. Like I also hate like misinformation and
Speaker 8: medical misinformation like the past few years have been like
Speaker 8: blown out of that. Right, hate when people prey on
Speaker 8: people's fear essentially, and I'm like, you're feeding people's fear
Speaker 8: with misinformation and delaying them probably getting like proper attention
Speaker 8: that they need. And I want to That's why I
Speaker 8: want to finish school, because I want the credentials to
Speaker 8: be able to back that information up with whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's legit.
Speaker 1: Well, I think sort of like the the thesis of
Speaker 1: a lot of shit that we've been talking about tonight
Speaker 1: is that again, like, it's great that you have these
Speaker 1: these higher so to speak, desires of like grander ways
Speaker 1: that you can help people once, once you're accredited, once
Speaker 1: you're in exposition, once you're in why position, and that's
Speaker 1: great to have. But simultaneously, don't waite out. Don't be
Speaker 1: like I can only do this when I have these
Speaker 1: when I get there. Simultaneously aspire to that while being
Speaker 1: able to live in the moment of as you, as
Speaker 1: as Zach was saying, doing what you can with what
Speaker 1: you have.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you a story.
Speaker 3: This is a very this this story is what I
Speaker 3: would call a parable. It ain't it ain't useful in
Speaker 3: that defect of like that the facts aren't gonna help
Speaker 3: you figure anything out. But maybe in relating this story
Speaker 3: it'll get across with me and all I'll trying to say.
Speaker 3: So when I was twenty, I had just I was
Speaker 3: twenty or twenty one, I had just dropped out of
Speaker 3: art school, right, Me and one of my best friends
Speaker 3: in the world, Muhammad, were like, shit, we ain't got
Speaker 3: nothing to do today, Let's do some acid. So we
Speaker 3: do this acid and were drinking getting fucked up. It's
Speaker 3: like two am, right, we're doing all this shit. You know,
Speaker 3: acid is you up? So we're up at the ass
Speaker 3: crack of dawn talking and we're sitting on my porch
Speaker 3: and we're talking about exactly this. We're talking about how
Speaker 3: you know, because when y're all asking, you all sensitive
Speaker 3: and shit. We're talking about how, like, man like, the
Speaker 3: point of life is to help people. The point of
Speaker 3: life is to help people, and how do you get there?
Speaker 3: But if you don't have money, you can't help. And
Speaker 3: it's the haves and the have nots and capitalism and
Speaker 3: hierarchy and blah blah, and Mark said this, and by
Speaker 3: we're getting all deep and esoterical and saying all this
Speaker 3: shit about how we we want to help people. Right,
Speaker 3: So we're like, yo, we're hungry. We're talking about the
Speaker 3: same shit in the car were driving. We get to
Speaker 3: this intersection and there's a car blocking the whole fucking intersection.
Speaker 3: We were riding around Atlanta trying to go to McDonald's
Speaker 3: to get the breakfast. It's a car blocking the fucking intersection.
Speaker 3: So mohammed honking. He like, bro, get the fuck out
Speaker 3: the way, get out the intersection. We go around the
Speaker 3: car anyway, We get back to talking about it. We
Speaker 3: get to McDonald's, get the breakfast, get the hash browns
Speaker 3: as delicious as fuck. We come back the same route
Speaker 3: to go back to my apartment. We get back to
Speaker 3: where that car was at the intersection. We just did
Speaker 3: all this talking about helping people, and what do we see.
Speaker 3: We see four people, two in the back, two on
Speaker 3: passenger side and driver's side door helping that poor motherfucker
Speaker 3: push his car out of the intersection because we thought
Speaker 3: he was being a dickhead taking up space in the intersection.
Speaker 3: His car broke down at seven am in the morning
Speaker 3: on the way to work in Atlanta, and four other
Speaker 3: people got to the jump before we did because we
Speaker 3: was too busy talking to talk instead of walking it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and now that motherfucker had somebody help him who wasn't
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, it's right in front
Speaker 3: of you, bro, Most of the time, it's right in
Speaker 3: front of you. And it's not going to fix your life.
Speaker 3: It's not going to figure out your depression. It's not
Speaker 3: gonna figure out your life path.
Speaker 5: But like.
Speaker 3: Nigga, helping people is always freely available in in abundance,
Speaker 3: And while you sitting talking thinking about it, it's probably
Speaker 3: somebody sitting next to you that you could do that
Speaker 3: shit and help them out, and boom, now you're enriched
Speaker 3: and you feel like you got more fuel to figure
Speaker 3: your ship out. You know what I'm saying, Like that
Speaker 3: that story sticks in my head.
Speaker 1: Forever, that that gives me a lot to think about it,
Speaker 1: like forever, bro, Yeah, because because I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: my whole thing is like talking about all this ship
Speaker 1: and I'm like, when in my life am I like
Speaker 1: thinking and talking about helping people, But like there's something
Speaker 1: right in front of my fucking face that I'm bro ignoring.
Speaker 3: It's because it's this veneer that we all got and
Speaker 3: you gotta like act every day. It's like, and that's
Speaker 3: why you know, I fuck with psychedelics, Like shrooms and
Speaker 3: acid because it tears that veneer down a little bit
Speaker 3: and you can get to the nitty radio. What we're
Speaker 3: all trying to say was just like how do I
Speaker 3: how do I help? And that story bro that ship.
Speaker 3: When I tell you we was in the car, we
Speaker 3: got to that intersection, saw them up for getting helped,
Speaker 3: and we stayed quiet for the rest of the day.
Speaker 3: We hung out that whole day. We were both broke,
Speaker 3: no job. We hung out the rest of that day
Speaker 3: and we just sat there and we're like, Wow, I'm
Speaker 3: not superstitious, but that day I felt like God, the
Speaker 3: universe of whoever like was like, oh you want did
Speaker 3: you want to talk about here? Here?
Speaker 6: Here?
Speaker 3: It is here, it is here, it is He missed
Speaker 3: it and it's like, yeah, it's pushing somebody's car off
Speaker 3: the intersection, like doing the work of fucking.
Speaker 1: You know, Martin Luther?
Speaker 3: Is it Martin Luther?
Speaker 5: King?
Speaker 3: Something right?
Speaker 1: It's right, something, it's something right, there's something whereas we're
Speaker 1: getting all caught up and like, oh, I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: this big grand thing. I'm gonna do that big grand
Speaker 1: it's like what it's what's right in front of your face?
Speaker 1: You're missing. That's give me bro.
Speaker 3: I still think it like, I'm like, we all babies,
Speaker 3: so you know you got just yeah, but I'm drunk.
Speaker 12: So that was that was that was.
Speaker 1: That was a great story. That's giving me a lot
Speaker 1: to I have to think about myself with like the
Speaker 1: the ways in which I can help that I'm ignoring.
Speaker 6: Dev.
Speaker 1: Are you still there?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 8: Story?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Dev?
Speaker 1: Do you have any final thoughts, feelings, sentiments that you
Speaker 1: wish to share?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Zach, thanks for sharing that. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 8: I was actually gonna go see you in Houston, but
Speaker 8: then the show got camped with the COVID I believe,
Speaker 8: And yeah, thank you so much for having this platform
Speaker 8: and doing what you do. I fucking listen to your
Speaker 8: podcast all the time because sometimes I can't stay up
Speaker 8: long enough to watch the streams or something. And I
Speaker 8: used to watch, like listen to that shit on my
Speaker 8: old job, which was like thirty minutes from my house.
Speaker 8: I would drive from there home and to and from
Speaker 8: Basically I would listen to should and laugh my ass
Speaker 8: off on like the worst day exactly. Man, all your stuff,
Speaker 8: fucking hip many white you know, all that ship also
Speaker 8: talking to me all that ship. I love both y'lsome.
Speaker 8: I was like super ecstatic to be able to talk
Speaker 8: to you so much.
Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the night.
Speaker 4: Thank you you too.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you some and I've had? What do
Speaker 1: you do you think? Do you think comedians like people
Speaker 1: who make art? Do you think that's a form of
Speaker 1: helping people? Because I'm in my head back and forth,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm in my head back and forth,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it is because there's because because with making art and
Speaker 1: making stuff, there there is like a fair amount of
Speaker 1: like unavoidable ego attached to it, I think. But but
Speaker 1: also I think in my life about like songs, I
Speaker 1: really like podcasts, I really like books, I really like
Speaker 1: and I and I would say that those things have
Speaker 1: like helped me. But then if I but then I
Speaker 1: couldn't accept Like when people tell me that like I
Speaker 1: help them like with this, I don't think I can't
Speaker 1: really accept it because there is so much like you
Speaker 1: feel like you.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're getting off too easy. If
Speaker 3: someone says that to you, maybe.
Speaker 1: It's maybe it's getting off too easy. I mean, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, have you gotten that about like your
Speaker 1: music or yeah?
Speaker 3: You know I've had people say, oh, you helped me
Speaker 3: do this, and yeah, help me do that.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel that way about certain comics and musicians too.
Speaker 3: But in the grand scheme, I guess it's a question
Speaker 3: of scale. Sure, you know what's the scale? What is
Speaker 3: the true scale that comedy can help people?
Speaker 1: I don't know where does it end?
Speaker 3: Where is it not? Because I'd be lying if I said, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, fucking Patrise O'Neil or Martin Lawrence or
Speaker 3: whoever didn't help me through a time?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but did they help me find love? Did they
Speaker 3: help me? They helped me get a job? Do they
Speaker 3: help it?
Speaker 1: But then like, but then like to have helped, does
Speaker 1: it need to be like some grand can can like
Speaker 1: a four minute YouTube video of like some comedian or
Speaker 1: some song like that made you enjoy those four minutes?
Speaker 1: Can that be a form of help even though it's
Speaker 1: not like someone even though it's not like such a
Speaker 1: grand even though even if it's not a grand thing,
Speaker 1: is that sort of what even we were just talking about,
Speaker 1: when like, does it have to be a grand thing?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 3: it does. I think that's another you know what I
Speaker 3: think that is. I think it's another byproduct of where
Speaker 3: we at right now, is that we're not even supposed
Speaker 3: to be talking to each other, like you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like like the internet plays so much burden
Speaker 3: on us, and you get to see so many problems
Speaker 3: every day, and it overloads your brain, and it's like,
Speaker 3: I think you should be aware of what's going on.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't be ignorant. But at a certain point you
Speaker 3: gotta be like nigga, I make bread. I'm a baker,
Speaker 3: and here's how I'm gonna help people that I'm gonna
Speaker 3: make a ficasha. Yes, and I'm gonna make that I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make the ship out of that fikausha or I'm
Speaker 3: gonna deliver the ship out of this pizza or whatever
Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, Because if all you learned how to
Speaker 3: do is make bread, I don't know if you should
Speaker 3: be walking around every day burdening yourself with the world's
Speaker 3: problems because niggas need sandwiches and you're the part of
Speaker 3: the process that makes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what you can with what you have
Speaker 1: if you make bread, that's what you have.
Speaker 4: Bread.
Speaker 3: I don't know, not to be, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: I think about this well because now we like you
Speaker 1: can't feasibly count on yourself to solve all of the
Speaker 1: world's problems all the time. But but you can, like
Speaker 1: you can pick. If you pick and choose, I think
Speaker 1: it's like a tackle able amount of problems. You can.
Speaker 1: You do something.
Speaker 3: You always do something. What's the longest you've stayed in
Speaker 3: the suit?
Speaker 1: Oh, just stayed in the suit? You know how you
Speaker 1: get You ever get out of a shot, You ever
Speaker 1: get out of the shower, and then you just hang
Speaker 1: out naked because you're you don't feel like getting dressed.
Speaker 1: I do that with the pain. So when the stream ends,
Speaker 1: I will sometimes, like if the stream ends at nine,
Speaker 1: there will be times where I just hang out with
Speaker 1: the paint on until one o'clock in the morning, and
Speaker 1: then I'll keep it on until.
Speaker 3: Like the very end, just like a little ritual like.
Speaker 2: Keep it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not it's not like a real it's
Speaker 1: not like a rich like. I'm not doing it for
Speaker 1: any reason other than I'm fucking lazy, I feel, because
Speaker 1: but I'll stay in. I will stay in the paint
Speaker 1: and in the suit, I'll walk around on the pants.
Speaker 1: I'll just wear the pants are very comfortable.
Speaker 3: The pants are fire.
Speaker 1: The pants isn't you were? You said this right when
Speaker 1: you put the suit on. It fits very nice and
Speaker 1: he's very comfortable.
Speaker 3: Honestly, this the whole lower half.
Speaker 6: With like.
Speaker 3: A cool ass top like a like a blazer, like
Speaker 3: take this off, nice button up with a blazer.
Speaker 1: It's a nice fit.
Speaker 3: It'd be a fit. Yeah, that's some ship that Jonah
Speaker 3: Hill will.
Speaker 1: Were Yeah, yeah, Lyle and yo, Hello it is Lyle.
Speaker 3: He Hello. How are you?
Speaker 10: I am doing great, guys.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling pretty fine?
Speaker 3: Feeling good?
Speaker 1: Feeling pretty good, feeling real good?
Speaker 3: How are you? What's going on here?
Speaker 5: I took you guys off speaker. Is that better?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You sound great?
Speaker 10: Yep, Oh it's awesome. Well, Derek, I've talked to you before.
Speaker 10: If you remember me, uh, when you were streaming with
Speaker 10: money Worms and I talk you about my tarantulas.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, you called in.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: I did a stream with with my friend fellow twitch
Speaker 1: streamer money Worms. Shout out to him. He did a
Speaker 1: stream a few weeks ago and you called in to
Speaker 1: tell us about your pet tarantula. Any updates on the
Speaker 1: pet tarantula?
Speaker 10: Uh, well, about like a week after that, my biggest
Speaker 10: one escaped for about seven days and my fiance woke
Speaker 10: up at around like four four o'clock to take a
Speaker 10: piss and it was right next to the toilet. So
Speaker 10: I was woken up by blood curdling screams, and I
Speaker 10: woke up and I caught my taransla.
Speaker 5: And that's the update.
Speaker 1: I feel like when your fiance moved in with you,
Speaker 1: they they must have known that they were signing up
Speaker 1: for They must have. They must have known that the
Speaker 1: tarantulas were part of the deal, so I couldn't have
Speaker 1: been too shocked.
Speaker 10: They they bought me my first taranngela. They started, they
Speaker 10: started the nightmare. But I do have well I need
Speaker 10: some advice, but also I wanted to know if you
Speaker 10: guys would help me name one of my tarantelas, tell
Speaker 10: us about.
Speaker 1: Them, and then we'll see if it comes to mind.
Speaker 3: What's the what's their disposition?
Speaker 10: Well, right now, they're an eighty baby baby, but they
Speaker 10: are a salmon pink bird eater, so they can get
Speaker 10: up to eleven inches in like leg stand. So they're
Speaker 10: gonna be freaking massive.
Speaker 3: The Vante.
Speaker 10: And yvonta. That's that's powerful. I love that. That's super
Speaker 10: bad as solid.
Speaker 1: Three syllable name.
Speaker 3: The Vonte. It's like it's got weight to it has
Speaker 3: like a bell curve vante yep, it's.
Speaker 10: So it would be like a god or like a
Speaker 10: even like a demon king type.
Speaker 1: When you said, do you do you view this tarantula
Speaker 1: as a force of evil or a force of good?
Speaker 1: And and be honest with us, Okay, don't don't.
Speaker 7: Don't.
Speaker 1: Don't answer with how you wish them to be. Answer
Speaker 1: with how you truly honestly perceived them to be, whether
Speaker 1: they perceive them to be a force of good or
Speaker 1: a force of evil.
Speaker 10: I would say a force of neutrality, because I don't know.
Speaker 10: They don't They aren't inherently bad. You know, they only
Speaker 10: get defensive. They're not aggressive. We say that a lot
Speaker 10: in the tarantula hobby because they you know, if they
Speaker 10: feel threatened, if there's like a big vibration, because they
Speaker 10: can't see, they don't know what the hell is going on.
Speaker 10: So if they're if they're spooked enough, they're gonna but
Speaker 10: they'll also like they're not just gonna bite you, well,
Speaker 10: some species, but they're not just gonna bite you. They'll
Speaker 10: usually threaten you first. So I would say neutrality not
Speaker 10: inherently bad or gold.
Speaker 1: And so you you you said you wanted advice on
Speaker 1: something else first of all, Just to sort of wrap
Speaker 1: this this part up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Davante is his name. That's all. I just want that.
Speaker 10: I will, I will put that on the name Tide.
Speaker 10: That is set. I. I appreciate. That's all I wanted
Speaker 10: from Well, that's one of the things I wanted from
Speaker 10: you guys.
Speaker 1: To beautiful.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 1: Check next item, let's hear it.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 10: While in April last year, I moved back to my
Speaker 10: hometown in the house, in a house right next to
Speaker 10: my parents. They're pretty conservative. My mom is an ally
Speaker 10: of the LGBTQ community. I identify as non binary, and
Speaker 10: I'm still am in college full time. But recently I
Speaker 10: was looking for a part time job a few months
Speaker 10: ago and I came across a cafe opening three minutes
Speaker 10: for me in my dinky little conservative hometown. And it's
Speaker 10: LGBTQ and woman owned and operated, and I love their message.
Speaker 10: It's like locally sourced. You know, a lot of good stuff.
Speaker 10: They want to give back to community, et cetera. And
Speaker 10: they really want it to be a safe space for like,
Speaker 10: you know, know, LGBTQ youth and like people because it's
Speaker 10: a small community and they want to target not only
Speaker 10: the community here, but like people from the bigger city
Speaker 10: next to us. So we are like encouraged, not pressured,
Speaker 10: but encouraged to have our pronouns on our name tags.
Speaker 10: And the place isn't open. It opens the twentieth. So
Speaker 10: we just had our first meeting with the staff and
Speaker 10: come to find out, one of them is my mom's
Speaker 10: coworker at their other job. And I had already said
Speaker 10: my pronouns and they offered to give me a ride home.
Speaker 10: When I got in the car with them, we had
Speaker 10: a kind of awkward conversation and it made me like
Speaker 10: a little uncomfortable. I talked with my boss about it.
Speaker 10: They were super nice because they know this person too.
Speaker 10: But now, like I'm a little anxious to you know,
Speaker 10: have my pronouns on my name seg. But I feel
Speaker 10: like I want to because you know, you guys were
Speaker 10: talking about wanting to like do good even in small things, right,
Speaker 10: even though it doesn't feel like super monumental.
Speaker 5: It still does good. Well, I want to inspire kids.
Speaker 10: In my community, who you know, are LGBTQ who are
Speaker 10: non binary like me. I want to show them that
Speaker 10: it's okay to be confident in yourself. But at the
Speaker 10: same time, like if someone tries to be like, oh,
Speaker 10: there's only two genders, it's just it's just a lot.
Speaker 10: Because this is just my personal identity. I don't like
Speaker 10: any political about it. I don't like arguing about it.
Speaker 10: I'm not super like open about it, you know. So
Speaker 10: now I'm kind of have inner conflicts if I should
Speaker 10: like just be just do it, because like because my
Speaker 10: mom I've tried to talk to her about it before
Speaker 10: and she thinks it's just really attention seeking and pointless
Speaker 10: and she doesn't get it, and she says a lot
Speaker 10: of harmful things. So yeah, I don't know. It's like
Speaker 10: kind of heavy, But if y'all have any input, I'd
Speaker 10: love to hear it.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: I like I just like apply that to like my
Speaker 3: own existence and experience as a black man, and like
Speaker 3: I will never ever tell someone to bend to the
Speaker 3: will of like respectability, you know what I'm saying, Like, Oh, well,
Speaker 3: if you don't do this, It'll make you safer. Well, nigga,
Speaker 3: tell them to stop making me unsafe, stop putting the burden.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like there's people like they
Speaker 3: do it so like I feel like I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you to keep rocking that shit fully like rocket harder.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like don't don't let nobody
Speaker 3: and and and and instead of trying to figure out
Speaker 3: reasons to justify you wearing it, figure out better ways
Speaker 3: to to ship on them when they when when they
Speaker 3: ask you why you got it on her, or try
Speaker 3: like understand understand their bigotry and their ignorance and and
Speaker 3: how you can be either more patient patient or cut
Speaker 3: them off when you know what I'm saying, like but don't.
Speaker 7: Don't, don't be don't then don't been to nobody. But
Speaker 7: I I I want to say though, yeah.
Speaker 1: I I I understand why you're like, fuck I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to like deal with this. I understand why.
Speaker 3: I understand that.
Speaker 1: And I also I want to be like because I'm
Speaker 1: also a chair, I'm like I I I I think, like,
Speaker 1: fuck them. Your mom doesn't dictate who you are as
Speaker 1: a person. Nobody dictates who you are as a person,
Speaker 1: except for you. I ampathize as to why, like being
Speaker 1: out and about about it like will attract negative attention
Speaker 1: that you don't feel like you're ready, then you don't
Speaker 1: feel like you're ready to deal with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, well go ahead, yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 10: Oh well, I was gonna say, like I want to
Speaker 10: be able to do that, like I want to be
Speaker 10: able to be like I guess I just I have
Speaker 10: social anxiety too, so I just don't know what to say,
Speaker 10: like especially in the moment, because like, yeah, I want
Speaker 10: to own it and be like fuck you, but I'm
Speaker 10: also going to be at work right and you know,
Speaker 10: because that's like we're almost like be wearing it. And
Speaker 10: I just like I don't know I how to be
Speaker 10: like sassy, you know, like I'm not good at like
Speaker 10: social shit. So like if you guys have some tips,
Speaker 10: like what I can say to a mother.
Speaker 3: I should I should clarify that being a being a
Speaker 3: asshole back to people is what I would do.
Speaker 1: That's me.
Speaker 5: I will.
Speaker 3: I'll roast them up from the top to the bottom
Speaker 3: and make them you know what I'm saying. That's how
Speaker 3: my response, I'm from Atlanta, Like that's how we that's
Speaker 3: how I would respond to it. But I also know
Speaker 3: people who got a thick skin and they would just
Speaker 3: let it slide off and move on to the next thing.
Speaker 3: And if you think that that's you, then do that.
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying what I will respond. That's exactly
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, suck my dick on.
Speaker 1: You can say on twitch that was That's That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I was going to say. It's like you got
Speaker 1: to find your way of dealing with it, like like
Speaker 1: like Zach was saying, like his way is to like
Speaker 1: being like you know, like fight back, like that's the style.
Speaker 1: But like you say, like it sounds to me like
Speaker 1: for what you're saying is like that style of confrontation,
Speaker 1: Like maybe that doesn't suit you, but there is like
Speaker 1: find a way to deal with it that is within
Speaker 1: your style. And maybe it is to just like internally
Speaker 1: be like I'm better than I'm better than this, like
Speaker 1: I don't have to fight back. Maybe it is to
Speaker 1: fight back like if because you say you're not sassy,
Speaker 1: like you're under no, you're under no obligation to be
Speaker 1: to be sassy. You just gotta find whatever your way
Speaker 1: is of dealing with it that doesn't necessarily have to
Speaker 1: be like combative back or you know, whatever whatever your
Speaker 1: way is. You know, some people are fire people and
Speaker 1: they they they they want to engage in conflict, and
Speaker 1: and you know some people are ice people and they
Speaker 1: would rather just ignore it, move on, find the peace
Speaker 1: within themselves to deal with it. And it's it's up
Speaker 1: to whatever you are comfortable with, you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. I
Speaker 10: didn't really think of it that way. I guess like
Speaker 10: when I you know, when I try to think of
Speaker 10: like a witty comeback, right, it's like I'm like, okay,
Speaker 10: like I'm gonna tell them, you know, Like I'm just
Speaker 10: be like this is who I am, Like, you know,
Speaker 10: fuck off, Like you can't do anything about it. Like
Speaker 10: I'm proud to be who I am. But like in
Speaker 10: the moment, I feel like I just like almost shut down.
Speaker 10: I'm just like, oh fuck, like so many people watching
Speaker 10: kind of thing, you know, Like so it's hard for me,
Speaker 10: but like you're right, like maybe I could find something
Speaker 10: that just works for me. It just like you just
Speaker 10: like power through it and just see like whenever fuck
Speaker 10: this person.
Speaker 3: You know, like, I will tell you something that I
Speaker 3: truly believe when someone says something to you and you
Speaker 3: look and it's a dumb and it's a dumb bigoted
Speaker 3: or a hateful thing or an ignorant thing, and you
Speaker 3: just kind of look through them as if they're not
Speaker 3: even there and go on with whatever it was that
Speaker 3: you were doing. That probably does more, yeah, than trying
Speaker 3: to engage with them and then getting locked. Because I
Speaker 3: love function. I love vibrating love with people. If you
Speaker 3: want to, I'll yell with anybody. Yeah, but am I winning?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I just like talking shit. I love talking shit and
Speaker 3: winning at that. But the real way to just delete
Speaker 3: a motherfucker is like just yeah huh and just keep going.
Speaker 1: And if that pres like it almost sounds like this
Speaker 1: pressure that you're putting on yourself to come up with
Speaker 1: a witty comeback to like engage in this combat and win,
Speaker 1: it's like adding extra It's like adding more negative bullshit
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with all. Deal with it
Speaker 1: however feels natural to you, right, you know, Like, don't
Speaker 1: put pressure on yourself to win the argument, like by
Speaker 1: having the you know you're not gonna win this by
Speaker 1: having the wittiest comeback. You win this by like not
Speaker 1: letting it get to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Put that really well.
Speaker 10: I mean I guess, like I don't want to win
Speaker 10: an argument. I like it's like on TikTok, right, you see,
Speaker 10: like I see a lot of people non binary people
Speaker 10: are like whatever, being really just proud to be who
Speaker 10: they am right or who they are right. And I'm
Speaker 10: really proud of who I am, but also like it
Speaker 10: makes me feel like I'm not when I can't just
Speaker 10: be like out completely about it, like and I feel
Speaker 10: silly because I'm twenty three and I'm like I'm and
Speaker 10: I guess like everyone comes out in their own time.
Speaker 10: There's no expectations, but like exactly hard. But I completely
Speaker 10: I agree that, like I don't have to you know,
Speaker 10: have the last word in order to win. I can
Speaker 10: just make them feel like whatever they just said, like
Speaker 10: is insignificant or like like what them and.
Speaker 3: Folks and folks that you see on TikTok, regardless of identity.
Speaker 3: One thing that exists across everything black, white, whether it's race,
Speaker 3: whether it's identity, whether it's how you identify engender motherfuckers
Speaker 3: get on the internet and live no matter who you are,
Speaker 3: no matter who it is. They get on the Internet
Speaker 3: and they present something to you that seems idealistic and
Speaker 3: seems ten out of ten, but they themselves are figuring
Speaker 3: it out too, and you know you'll see motherfuckers get
Speaker 3: on in that. This bitch came in the Starbucks today
Speaker 3: and she said da da da And then I said,
Speaker 3: and I'm that did not happen. Okay, you are not
Speaker 3: Patrisea O'Neil. You're not this fucking nobody is just like
Speaker 3: real time comedic genius, unless you like a black woman
Speaker 3: from Detroit and you you you do this every day
Speaker 3: and you deal with people like that like or you're
Speaker 3: just you're some like you're an Italian from Jersey like
Speaker 3: those those are the two motherfuckers in the world that
Speaker 3: will cut you down at a moment's notice. But these
Speaker 3: motherfuckersill get on the Internet and try to make you
Speaker 3: feel like, oh, well, this is how you handle They're
Speaker 3: living in a movie reality. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You need to handle shit like smooth, smooth criminal. Somebody
Speaker 3: come say some shit to you. Ooh, step out the way,
Speaker 3: somebody say some shit. Oh nope, not ooh, nope, not
Speaker 3: even dealing with that that'll make you the call this motherfucker.
Speaker 10: Know that I feel that I'm gonna take that advice.
Speaker 10: I'll try just to be like let it roll off
Speaker 10: my back, like yeah, because I guess it doesn't matter
Speaker 10: in the bigger picture, like there's nothing I don't know.
Speaker 10: I guess it was like the worst I guess that
Speaker 10: I can conceive happening is just some fucking asshole coming
Speaker 10: in and you know, staying a bunch of it and
Speaker 10: then getting kicked out. But like, and I guess the
Speaker 10: other part is just like the possibility of it happens.
Speaker 10: Happening seems so tiresome, Like I don't want to have
Speaker 10: to fucking deal with it too, you know, and it
Speaker 10: sucks because like I try and kind of hide that
Speaker 10: and just like present feminine and you know, just like
Speaker 10: but then I have to deal with consistently being called
Speaker 10: and viewed as something I'm not when I can just
Speaker 10: be like high, so I should just do you know
Speaker 10: what makes me happy, even if it's a harder choice,
Speaker 10: I guess, and J just like like.
Speaker 1: Like final sort of like I think I think the
Speaker 1: sentiment is like do be proud? On your own timeline,
Speaker 1: you know, like if if you're if you feel like
Speaker 1: you're not ready to deal Like if you're anticipating what
Speaker 1: you might have to deal with and you feel like
Speaker 1: you're not ready to deal with it, that's fine, you know,
Speaker 1: don't go out your own timeline, but when you are ready,
Speaker 1: don't feel like you have to deal with it in
Speaker 1: any particular way other than the way that feels right
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Fact, I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts, feelings, or sentiments that you wish to
Speaker 1: share before we go MJ.
Speaker 10: No, no, but I really do appreciate y'all. And yeah, okay,
Speaker 10: do a lot of good luck.
Speaker 1: To you in whatever you choose to do.
Speaker 10: Good luck, Thank you for y'all.
Speaker 3: Have a great night you as well.
Speaker 1: I'm jay you too.
Speaker 3: Davante is such a good good name.
Speaker 1: That was a good name, and.
Speaker 3: Like I don't know where it came from. It just
Speaker 3: entered like like a needle hit my brain and was like, was.
Speaker 1: That the did you cycle through anything else?
Speaker 3: First?
Speaker 1: First one?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty good. And now I'm you ever do
Speaker 3: something for somebody? And like I wish I kept named
Speaker 3: it And I didn't even know I wanted the to
Speaker 3: Ranela named Davante. And now I'm sitting here like.
Speaker 1: You think anyone ever comes up with the name, and
Speaker 1: then the animal, and then the animal. They're like, man,
Speaker 1: I really love the name Trevor. What animal parakeet? Bearded dragon?
Speaker 3: Yea bearded dragon named Trevor goes crazy. I actually with
Speaker 3: the bearded dragon name.
Speaker 6: That fits.
Speaker 1: We're in a similar family to bearded dragons. I think,
Speaker 1: uh huh, the geckos. Bearded dragons are a little bit more.
Speaker 3: They a little bit more.
Speaker 1: They're a little bit they're higher on the food chain
Speaker 1: than they will fuck your ass up.
Speaker 3: I feel like they could pop a tire just standing
Speaker 3: in the road.
Speaker 1: People send me. Anytime there's like a lizardy meme circulating
Speaker 1: around the internet, people send it to me. There's something
Speaker 1: about a bearded dragon. People were sending it to me,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, am I do identify with this? He's
Speaker 1: not a gecko?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 1: Is this Lee Leopold?
Speaker 3: Leopold?
Speaker 1: How are you?
Speaker 12: I don't know?
Speaker 4: Get it's pretty late.
Speaker 6: How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty good. It's also it's it's relatively late
Speaker 1: where I am. I'm very happy to be on West
Speaker 1: coast time because beforehand, let's see, it would be midnight
Speaker 1: back when I was streaming on the East coast. I'm,
Speaker 1: Zach said, feeling very loosey, goosey, feeling good.
Speaker 3: Up in the sky, vibing a bit, you know, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: A huge vibe for sure, for sure, Leopold.
Speaker 6: Yeah, brot, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Leopold? How how can we get you today? Well?
Speaker 4: I got a pretty interesting dilemma on my hands here.
Speaker 4: I don't know if the call screener had some kind
Speaker 4: of rate up there, but it's got an interesting roommate
Speaker 4: etiquette problem that I could use some advice on.
Speaker 1: Oh beautiful, Zach would love to listen to this, to this,
Speaker 1: to this inquiry while I go take a pee and
Speaker 1: and return back very shortly.
Speaker 3: Yep, all right, happy streams? Yeah, man, hit me, what's
Speaker 3: going on?
Speaker 12: All right?
Speaker 4: So I tend to take some of the loudest poops
Speaker 4: you've ever heard in your life, and I'm worried that
Speaker 4: I'm being a bad roommate because Dude, at this point,
Speaker 4: they're just so loud, and I'm wondering if it's rude.
Speaker 3: H Have your roommates complained about?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, I'm just like I'm starting to get self conscious, dude.
Speaker 4: It's like a firecracker every time, like like full on,
Speaker 4: like I can't like I just like I don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on, man, but like full on gip the
Speaker 4: glip the fucking seat, like you're.
Speaker 3: You're you're cracking the show, like yeah, you're cracking poor.
Speaker 12: Some yeah I.
Speaker 4: Do things like they're feeling this on the effects of
Speaker 4: this is the fucking city sewage treatment plant Like mm hmm.
Speaker 3: So this is like a self imposed thing, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. Nobody's complaining to you about it. You
Speaker 3: just personally feel like.
Speaker 4: But like, look, it's it's it is so it is
Speaker 4: so loud, and it's every time that I'm like, yo,
Speaker 4: like it's like if I was playing music really loudly
Speaker 4: all the time, like it could be the bad kind
Speaker 4: of noise. Complain, Like no one said anything, but I
Speaker 4: want to get ahead of it because I feel like
Speaker 4: even so, like what who would come up to you
Speaker 4: and say, like, yo, bro, like your ships are so loud,
Speaker 4: Like you gotta find someone to calm it down, Like
Speaker 4: no one's going to have that conversation.
Speaker 3: That's you make a good point, that's not that's not
Speaker 3: typically what people are going to come up with some complain.
Speaker 4: About there's some unspoken issue here, you know, like I
Speaker 4: gotta unload, you know, clumps bro like, but I don't
Speaker 4: know if like I need to like go somewhere else.
Speaker 3: What are you eat in, Leo?
Speaker 4: I feel like that I tendn't think that I have
Speaker 4: a pretty decent diet. I don't know, man, it's probably
Speaker 4: just like I think I got a limit to stress
Speaker 4: in my life. You know, like get mind connection.
Speaker 3: You think it's a stress thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I don't know see their experiences, but
Speaker 4: you get like really anxious whatever, Like your stomach starts
Speaker 4: turned upside down. You just like you know, you sit,
Speaker 4: you sit down on the throne and just you know,
Speaker 4: it's like a symphony.
Speaker 3: Well if if you know, if you know the issue, Leo,
Speaker 3: and you know what, you've got to change what's stopping, right.
Speaker 4: But like we're getting at like like if the solution
Speaker 4: is like like managing stress and anxiety, like that's a
Speaker 4: that's like a lifelong activity here, right, But like we're
Speaker 4: talking about like I need to keep this house in order, right,
Speaker 4: and like I can't just keep like every time I
Speaker 4: go to the bathroom just like fearing and like you know, like.
Speaker 3: Right, it's the dilemma, is you know a long term problem.
Speaker 4: We've got a short term problems with a long term.
Speaker 3: Stix one took the words out of my mouth.
Speaker 1: I genuinely feel like I've never had this person.
Speaker 3: Do you feel good?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I feel amazing after taking that pee. Can believe we
Speaker 1: did two ps? They were quick too, they were.
Speaker 3: Leo thinks that his booboo is too loud.
Speaker 1: And has anyone told you that? Or is that just
Speaker 1: like a personal and security that you have?
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, if I could lay out this example,
Speaker 4: I have a pretty good pair of noise canceling headphones,
Speaker 4: like very good. Spend a lot of money on them.
Speaker 4: Probably shouldn't spend that much anyways, Like you don't like
Speaker 4: anybody like I'm not gonna be listening to music whatever
Speaker 4: on toilet whatever. I can, like clear and clearer than
Speaker 4: anything else. Can hear my fucking ripping ass when I
Speaker 4: sit down, And if I can hear it through these headphones,
Speaker 4: everybody else can hear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they can hear you, if you can hear yourself.
Speaker 4: Phone, you're talking about Like right, we're talking about any hour.
Speaker 4: It could be you know, decent folk hour, Like you
Speaker 4: know I work from home. Everybody works from home day.
Speaker 4: In the middle of the day, I don't know if
Speaker 4: someone's gonna call for at night. You know, I get
Speaker 4: up midnight. You gotta go to the bathroom. It's disruptive.
Speaker 3: I think the the seed of the issue needs to change.
Speaker 3: We're talking about you do your do do is too loud?
Speaker 3: What if that upset your roommates. But what we need
Speaker 3: to be talking about is why would your roommates be upset?
Speaker 3: That's something that you naturally do and that every human does.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, are they gross? It's
Speaker 3: not gross. It's a part of doing do doing is
Speaker 3: it's a part of life.
Speaker 1: And it sounds like you know, you're It's like it's
Speaker 1: you know, their problem with your do doing is a
Speaker 1: them problem.
Speaker 3: It sounds like them and they haven't even complained about it.
Speaker 3: So this is a self contained thing right now.
Speaker 4: No, I know, like I'm getting ahead of my.
Speaker 3: You're getting ahead of yourself.
Speaker 12: Like what I've thought of, like different strategies I could
Speaker 12: like practice better, like I don't know, like cheap discipline,
Speaker 12: like you know what I mean like where you just
Speaker 12: try to like shift around and just try to like instead.
Speaker 4: Of letting it all come out.
Speaker 1: You know, normally I would understand like a low whistle.
Speaker 1: I normally I would understand why you and it's and
Speaker 1: by the way, it's very it's very nice of you
Speaker 1: to want because you have you have a genuine desire
Speaker 1: for your roommates to feel more comfortable. And that's very
Speaker 1: nice of you, that's very noble. But if that has
Speaker 1: to come at the cost of of you, of your
Speaker 1: own insanity mm hmm, then you have to weigh that.
Speaker 3: Do you use a squatty potty?
Speaker 4: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 2: Do you do?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 8: What?
Speaker 3: Do you know what a squatty potty is?
Speaker 1: No, you don't know.
Speaker 3: You don't even know what it is. You don't even
Speaker 3: know what it is. Okay, so you know when you poop,
Speaker 3: you know, you're you're sitting down and you got your
Speaker 3: feet planted on the ground like the.
Speaker 8: Legs up high thing.
Speaker 4: Yes, oh yeah, yeah, like that's how we were supposed
Speaker 4: to go. Yes, that's how that's how we were intended.
Speaker 3: I think that you should try that.
Speaker 1: Does that make less noise?
Speaker 3: I think it does.
Speaker 1: I feel like you can. Also, I'm sit on it
Speaker 1: like an incline so that the poop hits a different
Speaker 1: the bowl and not the water, because I feel like
Speaker 1: when it hits the water is when, Yeah, are you
Speaker 1: making grunting noises as well?
Speaker 3: What like like the.
Speaker 1: Like if it's like like if your poop is like
Speaker 1: a track and there's different like there's the sound of
Speaker 1: the water hitting the bowl, there's the grunts, there's whatever
Speaker 1: your asshole is making.
Speaker 3: What's the eight oh eight?
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh man, this is a great question.
Speaker 8: I'd say, like.
Speaker 4: It's more like the gas is the eight eight and
Speaker 4: the splashes like the kick or the click, and.
Speaker 3: You're not making any because I'll be real with you
Speaker 3: if you're if it's if we're just talking about butthole
Speaker 3: and toilet sounds right now, I'm with you. But if
Speaker 3: you're telling me you know you're you're going number two
Speaker 3: screaming like courage the Cowardly Dog every time, then yeah,
Speaker 3: something needs to something's gotta give. But if it's just
Speaker 3: if it's just but in water noises, my girl, do that.
Speaker 4: I do that, dude, I know.
Speaker 3: But like everybody's poop, you're gonna hear it.
Speaker 4: It scares me. Sometimes it comes out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: I think you're I think you're getting ahead of yourself,
Speaker 3: and I think I think you just need the recenter.
Speaker 3: And I don't think that your I don't think your
Speaker 3: booboo's thatll out bro.
Speaker 4: I mean that's very kind of you to say. But
Speaker 4: like I don't know, man, Like I mean it's different
Speaker 4: because like so I lived with two girls and like
Speaker 4: I don't want to be gross.
Speaker 3: You know, like see there it is. You didn't say that.
Speaker 3: You didn't say that up top?
Speaker 9: Is that important?
Speaker 1: Huh?
Speaker 4: It's I mean, you know, I feel skittish.
Speaker 1: I feel like just because of their girls, I mean
Speaker 1: the girl boy. Yeah whatever, whatever you are, you gotta ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying it's no.
Speaker 4: But like, okay, okay, it's different because like I'm not
Speaker 4: hearing any noise from anybody else right, Like I'm I'm
Speaker 4: only one to make a noise out here.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, are you house theatrical? Are
Speaker 1: the poops and do you think maybe even subconsciously, you
Speaker 1: play it up or add in any additional elements. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know why you would, but
Speaker 1: do you think you right?
Speaker 11: Okay?
Speaker 8: So I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't vocalize, you know, like I'm not that kind
Speaker 4: of guy, Like I don't like, you know, I'm not grimacing,
Speaker 4: I'm not like, you know, I'm not screaming or anything.
Speaker 4: It's just like it's just the fact that before I
Speaker 4: can get anything out, it's just an explosion of gas.
Speaker 4: It's like a it's like a firecracker, like a miniature explosion. Okay, right,
Speaker 4: and like that's like it's just I feel like a
Speaker 4: sense like shockwaves through the house. And you know, we
Speaker 4: could do you know, that's at the beginning. The show's
Speaker 4: not over. You know, it's like three four more times.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna end on this.
Speaker 1: It's like Leopold, you are enough, Okay.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: And you're and your poops they're enough, and you do
Speaker 1: not have to change. You are to appease other people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and some would say I would say if
Speaker 3: I was if I came and I hung out for
Speaker 3: a night at your house and your two roommates said,
Speaker 3: back to back, I gotta go to the bathroom, and
Speaker 3: I didn't hear anything from the first one second one goes,
Speaker 3: I gotta go to the bathroom, and I didn't hear anything.
Speaker 3: And then you go, I gotta go to the bathroom,
Speaker 3: and it sounded like fucking Batman begins in there. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go, well, shit, I know who runs this fucking house. Yep,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm a thing. Never thought about it like that.
Speaker 3: That's who runs the fucking house. Because they went in
Speaker 3: there and they kept it quiet. They put on the water,
Speaker 3: they put.
Speaker 6: On all this.
Speaker 3: They tried to keep it quiet. And that motherfucker went
Speaker 3: in there and just let it sing.
Speaker 1: That guy, that guy's got confidence. And if I ever
Speaker 1: and if there is ever any other roommate issues, like
Speaker 1: oh who left the dishes, who is refilling the Brita filter.
Speaker 10: This man is.
Speaker 1: This man will win any contation. So it sets a
Speaker 1: good tone for the relationship in general. I completely agree
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: Let it go. Just let it go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I appreciate that. I'll make it a
Speaker 4: lot more comfortable and just you know, go about my
Speaker 4: business every day, you know, just I don't know, just
Speaker 4: not worrying about that would be nice.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling Leo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, guys, have a good night.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, though, in in in which thing.
Speaker 3: Particularly if I just went in someone's house and they
Speaker 3: were just shamelessly yeah, like clapping it out, I'll be like,
Speaker 3: you would have to respect them, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 3: let me mm hmm, let me tread lightly in this
Speaker 3: motherfucker's house.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's not it's it's it's it's the same. It's
Speaker 1: the same sentiment as you know, you go into the
Speaker 1: you go into when you get to go to prison,
Speaker 1: you go you.
Speaker 3: Beat up the the same thing. Yeah, same thing establishes dominance,
Speaker 3: established like, yo, I'm here, I'm don't fuck with me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what we should do to
Speaker 1: wrap up? I I like I like to try and
Speaker 1: us think of like our our our like what our
Speaker 1: what of our what are what? What's the themes that
Speaker 1: we've we've tackled. We've tackled the theme of don't bend yourself. See,
Speaker 1: this is the interest, this is the interesting. The silly call,
Speaker 1: the the quote silly calls, the quote serious calls. They
Speaker 1: hit the same themes, same notes. Yes, both MJ and
Speaker 1: who is who?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 3: Do we just talk to Leo?
Speaker 1: Both m J and LEO need to not bend to
Speaker 1: the whims of others, and both.
Speaker 3: Of them doing it preemptively before the problem has even arrived.
Speaker 1: For the problems, yes, exactly, both of them doing it
Speaker 1: before anticipating a conflict, and.
Speaker 3: You're already telegraphing your punch of how you're gonna react
Speaker 3: to it, or do I need to change or do
Speaker 3: I need to switch this up?
Speaker 1: Even if it doesn't happen, you bend in and it
Speaker 1: ain't even no pressure yet.
Speaker 3: Yep, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It could all be for nothing.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to wait for the pressure to come and
Speaker 3: then you go, yeah, I been, but I don't break. Yep,
Speaker 3: that's when you've been. But if it ain't no pressure yet, man,
Speaker 3: be free. Shit, I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Does some other? Who? Who were some other? Who?
Speaker 8: Are?
Speaker 1: Some other calls we had to I've been doing this lately.
Speaker 1: We're at the end of the stream. I'll like try
Speaker 1: I want to try to remember the calls because then
Speaker 1: I feel like.
Speaker 3: Jack at the beginning.
Speaker 1: What was he talking about?
Speaker 3: Uh? Sugar do you want to be? You want to
Speaker 3: be the sugar, the sugar, the sugar mama? Yeah, h yeah?
Speaker 1: Who else?
Speaker 3: Do we have the.
Speaker 1: Clumps at clump girl. The clump girl also another person
Speaker 1: who is trying not to bend tow other other people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yah, oh porn, another guy, another guy preemptively Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yes another Yeah, a big thing of people preemptively
Speaker 1: anticipating situations that they would have to deal with, which,
Speaker 1: of course everyone does, except for wild animals who just
Speaker 1: purely in the moment to ship fuck, eat and drink
Speaker 1: and be comfortable. And they're probably like a wild fucking
Speaker 1: like wild deer. A wild deer is probably way happier
Speaker 1: than any human being.
Speaker 3: Hands down.
Speaker 1: They're living. They live in the moment because they physically
Speaker 1: cannot anticipate any future anxiety. They're not thinking about how
Speaker 1: they're gonna get eaten by a fucking z Like.
Speaker 3: The deeper the deeper we get in this internet, ship man,
Speaker 3: the more problems you invent then just actually exists, like
Speaker 3: everybody just we all do it, you know, mm hmmm,
Speaker 3: So we all just need to stop and slow down
Speaker 3: and be like, what's right here right now?
Speaker 8: Yep?
Speaker 3: Is somebody looking at my name tag right now with
Speaker 3: my pronouns? No ship?
Speaker 1: Can I help people right now with what I have?
Speaker 2: Does it?
Speaker 8: Do?
Speaker 1: I need to wait and TOI wpait for the future
Speaker 1: for to be able to do that. You can do
Speaker 1: it right now, right now. Mm hmm, sit heavy second
Speaker 1: the navy. Yeah, girl, I wonder if that fits into
Speaker 1: the theme somehow. She she she's like, uh, she's like,
Speaker 1: she's like sort of maybe maybe maybe that's a form
Speaker 1: of living in the past and not living in the future.
Speaker 1: Like like she met someone, she met a guy, She
Speaker 1: met a guy. She had a nice connection with him,
Speaker 1: I assume, or else she wouldn't be like caring about.
Speaker 3: He was to go to the Navy, and she was like,
Speaker 3: is this gonna work out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's not living That's that's another thing of
Speaker 1: not living in the present. Like but you're in college,
Speaker 1: you're in Utah. Now, what's what's going on around you?
Speaker 1: And not like you know with this guy, like who
Speaker 1: are the people directly in front of you?
Speaker 3: He's somewhere in the fucking.
Speaker 1: He's in Japan.
Speaker 3: He ain't even there, He just as some coordinates. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not even at a place. He's at numbers.
Speaker 3: He's in the ocean, yeah, at numbers. Yeah, leave him alone.
Speaker 1: Live in Utah, don't live in at longitude latitude sixty
Speaker 1: nine don't do it whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't put yourself through that. Ain't no internet out there,
Speaker 3: Zach Fox.
Speaker 8: This was.
Speaker 1: A phenomenal three and a half hours.
Speaker 3: It was a pleasure.
Speaker 1: We went everywhere. Thank you so much, Dog for being here.
Speaker 3: This was great.
Speaker 1: Fuck Yah, I'm so glad you did this.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad you came. Three fourths of a beer.
Speaker 3: I'm three in, I'm not slurring, and I'm not How
Speaker 3: drunk do you feel right now? I'm just glad I'm
Speaker 3: not getting your channel banned because we established early on
Speaker 3: what the limit was.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to like saying stuff, it's
Speaker 1: hard to get banned. It's more like you get banned
Speaker 1: for like doing things or showing things.
Speaker 3: Balls. Yeah, like like give your balls is out?
Speaker 1: And also like you can say cunt, you can't say
Speaker 1: you can't say you can't say bad, you can't say
Speaker 1: racial slurs. Oh yeah, I think. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I think you can say anything pretty much.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful. I just saw ship fuck cunt and the.
Speaker 1: Ship fuck cunt. Can we get a can we get
Speaker 1: a ship fuck cunt in the chat? Please?
Speaker 3: This was really fun, guys. I appreciate everybody tuning in.
Speaker 1: Uh, anything you want to, you want to, you wanna
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