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Speaker 7: Niggas want to lure me to death exactly.

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Speaker 11: God keep me shining as the fuck? Do they really

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Speaker 3: Just so, what we just heard was Kendrick Lamar his

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Speaker 3: This internet shit is starting beefs, dog like it's deeper

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Speaker 3: wanted to let you guys know. Around this time last year,

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Speaker 3: me and doctor Umar Johnson had the first annual live

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Speaker 3: It's Up That Podcast event and it was sold out.

438
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 3: The crowd was so involved that a couple of times

439
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Speaker 3: we had to ask them to please we were recording.

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Speaker 7: It was my first live event.

441
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Speaker 3: Some of the dopest content that I've ever created came

442
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Speaker 3: out of that night with doctor Umar Johnson, and we're

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Speaker 3: running it back October eighth. We're giving you an opportunity

444
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Speaker 3: to be in the crowd. We're giving you an opportunity

445
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Speaker 3: to be a part of the system, to be a

446
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Speaker 3: part of the game.

447
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 7: It's just on what you're gonna do with it. Will

448
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Speaker 7: we see you there?

449
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 3: For those who did not watch what me and doctor

450
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 3: Umar Johnson done last year, he's one of the clips

451
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Speaker 3: that stood out and went viral everywhere following this with

452
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 3: doctor Umar, what you saw was doctor Umar Johnson debates

453
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: this doctor Umar, and debates here, debates there, debates here,

454
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: debates there. We started that on this up there podcast

455
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Speaker 3: live and so the second then you wore it cannot

456
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Speaker 3: be duplicated. Everybody can try. We're gonna show you exactly.

457
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 7: Why we are who we say we are in the culture.

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Speaker 3: October the eighth, we have a conversation with doctor Umar Johnson.

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Speaker 3: We speak to the leadership class. Let there be no

460
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Speaker 3: misunderstandings about that. Hopefully to see you there. She had

461
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 3: lived in a little apartment and I had went over

462
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Speaker 3: there to live with her. When we first get involved

463
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: with each other and we start living with each other.

464
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 3: I'm paying attention, right, I might walk part. You know,

465
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Speaker 3: when you're living in apartments, you got the long hallway,

466
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Speaker 3: all the rooms just one room, two room, three room,

467
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,199
Speaker 3: four room. As you walking by, it's just room in

468
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Speaker 3: the room. And it ain't no design toward or nothing.

469
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 3: It's just room, room room. It's a full bedroom. This

470
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: shit like a box or something.

471
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Speaker 7: You dig. So this is what we was living in

472
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Speaker 7: at the time.

473
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Speaker 3: And so as I come in, and you know, these

474
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Speaker 3: children were good kids and this girl was a good girl.

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Speaker 7: Right.

476
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Speaker 3: I need to say that because people are so sensitive,

477
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 3: my words sting so much. I don't want nobody to

478
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: ever feel played because I just talk about my experiences.

479
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 3: But anyway, look, I used to come down the long hallway, say, bro,

480
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: I come down the hallway.

481
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 7: I look over to cause you you know what I'm saying.

482
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Speaker 7: You know what going on? You come you can look

483
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 7: dead in a nigga room. Yeah, you can look and

484
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 7: see exactly what's going on.

485
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Speaker 3: Ain't no bunch of design, and it ain't no curve

486
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 3: around here with the walk in closet, it ain't none

487
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: of that.

488
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Speaker 7: It's just a room. It's just some shit right there.

489
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 3: So our room was straight all the way to the

490
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Speaker 3: back boom our room, and so it was rooms like

491
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Speaker 3: it's going toward I will pick attention, bro. They were

492
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: looking at I walk past their room. Guess who I

493
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 3: hear NBA young boy. Then the NBA young boy shit

494
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: start heading them down documentary. They will be on YouTube

495
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: for hours of my nigga. And here I gotta be

496
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: the grumpy old man you did because I'm installing games. See,

497
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: I'm installing software they ain't even knowing they need. And

498
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm installing mile.

499
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Speaker 8: Well.

500
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: See they ready to gone get on the computer and

501
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: play the game, but I got to install some shit.

502
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: That's safety precautions for you young niggas. And so when

503
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 3: I'm walking through and here and this kind of jargon,

504
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 3: and niggas got sticks hanging out, they draws this before

505
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: any of them niggas call cases. Look everybody, look man,

506
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: I'm telling you now. This is for any of them

507
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: young niggas caught any charger. I tell them, young boys,

508
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: I say, look, you can't survive this game like that.

509
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 7: You don't win this game like that.

510
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: What I resh respect is that because I came from

511
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: being somebody where I play Xbox and PlayStation I would

512
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: try to help them understanding in game in terms because

513
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: they were young niggas. In the same way I do

514
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,199
Speaker 3: my kids when I see them into a game, I

515
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 3: go and study the game and try to bring them

516
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: some kind of example about life that they understand about

517
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 3: the game.

518
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 7: My youngest son, maybe about Naruto, shit like that.

519
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: I try to incorporate things right, so I help them understand.

520
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: At this point in time, the Last of Us two

521
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 3: was a game on PlayStation that was out.

522
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 7: I usually don't play games.

523
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: I get on Xbox and I talk to the people,

524
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: talk to the community. I'll play two K for some money.

525
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: I wager right, call a dude. I wager all y'all

526
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: hit me. Whoever trying to get it going, join the community,

527
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: let's get it popping. I'm one of them guys, and

528
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm on there talking to them folks. Yeah, laid back

529
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 3: like a maid bag. You did made man, But yah.

530
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: I told my son, I said, I remember one time

531
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 3: calling him downstairs and he came in in the streaming

532
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: room and I was playing The Last of Us two

533
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: because I needed help on a particular part, you know.

534
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: And if you know about Last of Us two, they

535
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: have these creatures that they can't see, but they can

536
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: hear extremely well. And for me, I couldn't seem to

537
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: beat this one part. I couldn't seem to get over

538
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 3: it and get past it. And so I called my

539
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: son and then this is my oldest son. And we

540
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: stayed in there thirty minutes trying to get past it.

541
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 3: And I sat back and I said, you know what,

542
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 3: we ain't done. We ain't changed our approach. We can't

543
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: beat him with that approach. We've tried for forty five minutes.

544
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: We were gonna try for three days with the same approach.

545
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 3: I relate that to my son. Yo, bro, sometimes you

546
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: peep that sometimes you got to change the approach. I

547
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 3: get the ORG in the other day. This is what

548
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell y'all. I'm high level game. Hopefully

549
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: I install software on some of y'all. Y'all adopted right,

550
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: check this out. If you know anything about Tennessee. When

551
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 3: the season of the state Fail, state fel going on, right,

552
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: So I push up on the state fail with my kids.

553
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 7: You understand me.

554
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: I got some chow on me and you dig I'm

555
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: having full pockets full. You understand. I spend about fifteen

556
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: hundred dollars. Right, so we walking around getting shit. They

557
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: got all kind of shit we don't want. So anytime

558
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: I take my kids somewhere, they young, but I'm installing

559
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: in them. And not only am I doing it conscious,

560
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: but it's unconscious. It's just the man that I am.

561
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: I'm ana laughing joke, laughing joke. But I'm gonna peep there.

562
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 3: You see that, You see that, you dig that? And

563
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: so I knew the State fail because I'm an adult.

564
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: They think it's out all games having a good time,

565
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 3: and they think they daddy got the money glitch. So

566
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: we're finish, go do our thing. We get to the

567
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: State fel My whole job is to help them peep

568
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: the games that's running. We finished, spend the money for

569
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 3: Peep game.

570
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 7: First thing we do.

571
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: Soon we get in, right, you know, they got funnel cakes,

572
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 3: turkey leg chips, all kind of shit going on. Soon

573
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 3: we get into the thing, they got their favorite new Bamboozlok.

574
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: Soon as you walk in, you know, I ain't been

575
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: to the fan years, you understand, So I don't know

576
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: the game, but I know when I was going to

577
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: the fan when I was young, they didn't have it.

578
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 7: So get what they had.

579
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Speaker 3: They had a motherfucking thing that looked like a menu

580
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: outside of Mexican restaurant. You know how they write today's

581
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 3: deal or today's lunch on right, and it kind of

582
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: stands on the ground and I'll put a picture of

583
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Speaker 3: it on.

584
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 7: I'll put it on the screen. So they had one

585
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 7: of these.

586
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: Now, when I say it looks like a Mexican restaurant

587
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: menu or menu outside of a restaurant, what I'm saying

588
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: is that it has two slopes on it. These are

589
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: basically two pieces of board, cardboard or PVC or what

590
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 3: have you.

591
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 7: And so.

592
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: It stands maybe about four or five feet tall, maybe

593
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: six feet tall. And so what you do is you

594
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 3: take a bouncy ball and they have a requirement that

595
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: you got to hit it off the top of the board. Now,

596
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: this looks like something that's you got hit it off

597
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: the top of the board. And they put a laundry

598
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: basket at the bottom. So you know how big a

599
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: laundry basket is. This seems like it'll be something easy

600
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: for you to do. Right, I reached, I said, way, man,

601
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: tell me how much it costs to play? Said twenty

602
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: dollars three balls? You know, twenty dollars three balls. You

603
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 3: give me thirty, you get six thirty six, twenty three,

604
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: thirty six. He doing his one two, but he go

605
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: the game. My kids don't even peep this, but here

606
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: go the game. He stepped outside of the box right,

607
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: He said, let me show you how easy it is,

608
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 3: my guy.

609
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 7: Boom, he hitting one, did it again. Boom, He hit

610
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 7: Anne and win in. Boom, he hit Anning and Wining.

611
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 7: He did four, five of them right there talking to me.

612
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 7: Boom and he hitting him. They going in.

613
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: My kids said, man, I can easily do that. He said,

614
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 3: if you can hit two of them, you get that

615
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 3: PlayStation at TV. He got a package deal.

616
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 7: If you can hit.

617
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: Two of them for me, My radars don't win off

618
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: game detected game detected, game detect the Nigga running game

619
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: game detected game detected.

620
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 7: You understand.

621
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm already knowing, but I got the money. It's a

622
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: lesson for the kid. Boom, I hit him with thirty.

623
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 7: They do it.

624
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 3: Boom, it bounced off, Boom, it bounced off, Boom, it

625
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 3: bounced off.

626
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 7: I do it.

627
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: I said, man, let me show y'all. Try to y'all

628
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: don't know nothing about this game, running game. Sons, they

629
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: running game, y'all pay atten, I'll do it. Boom it

630
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 3: bounce off, boom it bounce off. They do it again,

631
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: boom it, bounce off. I'm down six balls. I look

632
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: at the dude, he said, manah, you doing it wrong. Man,

633
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: he said, no, you got to look. It's right here.

634
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: You see that X pot. If that's the perfect spot,

635
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: that X part, he's selling it again. My kids don't

636
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: get it. They bitten, they biting. Oh man, he got

637
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: my kids. Oh my god, my kids looking at it. All. Yeah, nah,

638
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: that's what you gotta do. I'll daddy give him another

639
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 3: six to run it back. I shoot him Anne boom

640
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 3: miss again, boom miss again, boom miss again. I said,

641
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: something is up with it now. I'm paying attention to

642
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 3: the boards because if this big laundry basket is sitting

643
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: in front of it, it's supposed to go in.

644
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 7: It's supposed to hit that go right in. But he

645
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 7: throwing it underhanded. Ways.

646
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 3: Really, it ain't bouncing off of it. It's more so

647
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: hitting it and then just dropping in the laundry basket.

648
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: But he's throwing it up more so like a Kyrie

649
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: Irving or a Stephan Curvey finger roll. He doing it

650
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 3: like a finger roll. So when you do it overhead,

651
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: it's too much force. It's gonna instantly bounce off. But

652
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 3: come to find out I'm looking. I look at it.

653
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: Oh we got a curve in it. Not a curve,

654
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: unnatural curve, but it's just a slope to make it

655
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: just a tad bit harder. So add I spend the

656
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: money with him, I leave, I go to another spot.

657
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: Now this is what I tell and I'm gonna get

658
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: to the end of this story because people, you know,

659
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 3: maybe you don't understand why I'm going with this. Now

660
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: we gone through the Fast, spend much more money, getting

661
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 3: other shit, and maybe I talk on Patreon about some

662
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: of the other things we've done because the fast full

663
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: of game. Everything I do, I'm looking for the game

664
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: game Detective. But so we play other games. Now, what

665
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 3: also I noticed and the failure is they got the

666
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 3: same games in different areas, maybe just with a different background,

667
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: different board, different this, but it's actually the same game.

668
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 3: So here we are run up on another game, are

669
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 3: the same game that I just spent whatever I spent

670
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: with them ball this time I take the approach because

671
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: my children have been through it once with me, and

672
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: they saw us go through this and lose their money.

673
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 7: I'm hoping they.

674
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: Gained something from it, and if they haven't, I don't

675
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 3: blame them. Here's my opportunity to tell them, Hey, remember

676
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 3: what you just went through dealing with this?

677
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 7: Help right?

678
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: So I entertain it. I'm talking to my little boy. Yeah, see, son,

679
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: it's a trick. You see what I'm telling you. You

680
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 3: see the trick is I'm giving my son the game

681
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: may don't you know? The State Fair dude jump in

682
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 3: my conversation. The State Fair dude jump in my conversation. Now,

683
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: they wouldn't allow us to cheat you man, I said, hey, bro,

684
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 3: what do you mean they wouldn't allow you to cheat me?

685
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: See now I'm on him. And maybe he didn't know

686
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: that he dealing with a high level thinker. I'm in

687
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: the highest level of game. So when he said, you know,

688
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 3: the rules called for us not to be able to cheat,

689
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: they'll shut us down X y Z and so I

690
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: had a few questions for him. I said, if anybody

691
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 3: won that PlayStation and stuff? He said yeah. I said,

692
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: how many have they won? He said several? Because I

693
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: knew we couldn't verify that, and it possibly was untrue

694
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: because I just spent money all around his place looking

695
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: at this thing. I don't see anyone eager to run

696
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: over and do it. You know, maybe someone that understands

697
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: the dynamics of it and the dimensions of it. Maybe

698
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: they won, but I had to explain to him that

699
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: little home. Man, I'm explaining to my children to peak

700
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: the games that they run it. There's things that you

701
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: can deny. There's tricker reinvolved. Why is why I can't

702
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: why I can only throw it right there? Why they

703
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: won't let me throw it under? Why I got a

704
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 3: standing right here? They had one game where it was

705
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 3: a BB gun with a hundred bullets in it, and

706
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 3: you gotta hit the inside red circle on it, and

707
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 3: if you can just tell the circle all the way up,

708
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 3: you win. This big TV and PlayStation. Problem is they

709
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,280
Speaker 3: gonna put some paper on there that won't allow for it.

710
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 7: Right, It's gonna not happen. And then they tell each other.

711
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: Man, that's the hardest one, right there, man, that one

712
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: right there, you really can't never don't nobody. And it's

713
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: like this game involved with everything. Back to Kendrick, what

714
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: do we think about Kendrick dropping this to kind of

715
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: try to get some of the heat off of you know, hisself.

716
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 3: You know, I truly do believe this is a good

717
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: song by Kendrick. I do think this song will come

718
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: and go though. And this is why I speak to

719
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: that not us record one hundred percent is gonna be

720
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: involved with the super Bowl. It's because the other four

721
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: or five records. And I like Euphoria too. That's a

722
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: great record if you're asking me for that type of atmosphere.

723
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: But a lot of these records are coming and going,

724
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 3: even for Drake. Drake just dropped the Honey Gigs dropped

725
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 3: a lot of music. It's like, did he just killed

726
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 3: both of them and not kill a meaning they're not

727
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: gonna sell. It's like creatively because even with this song,

728
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: although there's references to Drake, there was an immediate community

729
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: online that took this song and made it a Drake

730
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: This when I think this was him speaking more so

731
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: about culture, more so about you know how there's just

732
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: too much chucking and jiving going on. You know when

733
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: he says these broad things like influencers hate me and

734
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: radio holes, proper Ganda and all of that.

735
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 7: Yo, if it ain't directed. I don't respect it.

736
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: So I know it ain't about me because I'm a

737
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: high level, high quality nigga, and so there's you know,

738
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: things that he would qualify me as. But when you

739
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 3: other guys who like to adopt and adapt to things

740
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 3: that these rappers say, when they don't even say your name, Hey,

741
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 3: that's your business. But if we can go on a

742
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 3: big stage someway and have a real debate me versus

743
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: such and such, I'll do that. I'll entertain that it's

744
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: up that podcast production. I'll entertain that we can do

745
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: it in New Jersey, New York, California. We can do

746
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 3: it in Cashville and Atlanta, in Miami, we can do

747
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: it anywhere. I'm verified, certified, and I'm gonna have man

748
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 3: with me. All my guys is we known all across

749
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 3: the globe. So it's a beautiful financial situation and a

750
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 3: beautiful opportunity for the culture to learn from both perspectives. Hey,

751
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie kind of bledg y'all with that

752
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: fair story, man, But that was a real story.

753
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 7: You know. My point of it was a couple different

754
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 7: layers of the story. Man.

755
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 3: Number one was like, there's game being ran on the

756
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 3: level that people who are working for the FED don't

757
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: even know they're executing the game. They even think they

758
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: may have a chance to win, and there's certain ways

759
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: to get it done, and there's a better chance than

760
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: it truly is. That's number one, But number two, my

761
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: job as a father for those kids is to help

762
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 3: them identify game. And I know now they're just like

763
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: man and my daddy be asking some crazy stuff. But

764
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: when they get older, they gonna look back at that

765
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: and they're gonna be like, hey, he was hard man. I

766
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,839
Speaker 3: remember one time went to the fair man. He will

767
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: pointing out that you see that song, You see how

768
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 3: they doing that? You see ain't nobody you see how

769
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 3: they You see why you know I'm always trying to

770
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: install Softwell. I called that te I'm one of the

771
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: flyes niggas in the world.

772
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 7: I beleeve it.

773
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 3: That Kidrick topic, we kind of went all around the

774
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 3: board with that one. I want to deal with Lil Wayne.

775
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: Lil Wayne has came out since the Kendrick Lamar announcement

776
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: and finally respond amongst other people, you got juvenile responded.

777
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: We dealt with the bird man. Nicki Minaj response last week.

778
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: I didn't even really get into Drake's involvement in this

779
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 3: whole thing. I think that's a conversation that we can

780
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 3: maybe have at some point as well. But lol, Wayne

781
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 3: put out a video addressing the fact that he was

782
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: not selected to do Super Bowl fifty nine halftime performance

783
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 3: in New Orleans. Let's take a look at what Wayne said, your.

784
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 12: Words turning to arms, and help me.

785
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: Up on not trying to fall back. That hurt hurt

786
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 1: a lot, you.

787
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 12: Know what I'm talking about.

788
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: It hurt a whole lot.

789
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 10: I blame myself for not being mentally prepared for all

790
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 10: downd and for just automatically mentally putting myself in that position,

791
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 10: like somebody told me that was my position. So I

792
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 10: blame myself for that. But I thought that was nothing,

793
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 10: you know. I thought that was nothing better than that

794
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 10: that best spot in that stage, in that platform in

795
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 10: my city.

796
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 12: And so I heard, I heard a whole lot. But

797
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 12: y y'all, y'all.

798
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 10: Are fucking amazing. It made me feel like shit not

799
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 10: getting this this opportunity. And when I felt like shit,

800
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 10: you guys reminded me that I ain't shit without y'all.

801
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 10: And and that's an amazing reality. So, like I said,

802
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 10: it broke me and I'm just trying and put me

803
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 10: back together.

804
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: But my god, her, you all helped me.

805
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 10: Thanks to all my peers, my friends, my family, my

806
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 10: homies on sports television and everybody repping me.

807
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. I really do.

808
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 10: I feel like I let all of y'all down, are

809
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 10: not getting that opportunity.

810
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: But I'm working on me and I'm working so.

811
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 7: Thank you. This will make it so scared of the

812
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 7: show love and his game.

813
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 3: And listen this conversation for me, bro, I genuinely want

814
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: to understand. This ain't even for those that know me

815
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: and know how I came up. You know, I'm a

816
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: fan of information, so everything I speak on is an

817
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: interest of finding the way, the route. You understand the

818
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: colding and so this game make it so hard for

819
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: you to show love because if I'm Wayne, like, let's think,

820
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: what will make wayne expectations be? There is again once

821
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: we see one of ours And that's the problem. That's

822
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 3: the problem. What does one of ours even mean?

823
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 7: See?

824
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 3: Don't nobody never ever sit down and say, what do

825
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: that lie familiar stand for? On the end of our

826
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: record label? Do that really mean we family. Cause to me,

827
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: I took that like we family. Like when I tell you,

828
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 3: bra I love you, appreciate you out, I really take

829
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: that the heart because ain't nothing you ain't nothing you

830
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: can do for me I can't do for myself. I'm

831
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 3: delusion about this here I got, I'm working with. I'm

832
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: fucking with this to the teenth power I'm talking about.

833
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: I'm feeling utmost confident about what God has contributed in

834
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: my toolbox. I ain't looking, willing and dealing for no friendships.

835
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 3: So when I say I love you and I fuck

836
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 3: with you, I mean that. When you in this game,

837
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 3: it's so hard to show love because the people you

838
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: show love till you turn around and they stab you

839
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: in the back. Or you show love to people and

840
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 3: they turn around and they ignore the fact that you

841
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: show love, and you say one bad thing and you

842
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 3: got their attention. The whole time you've been in the

843
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 3: background trying to show love. Nobody never said I want

844
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 3: to have a real conversation today, And I hope the

845
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 3: coach accepts this with no malice and were just having

846
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: a conversation on this up there podcast. But but I

847
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 3: want to have a real conversation I want to ask

848
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: a real question, do you have to forfeit your spot

849
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 3: in order to get next to Jay Z? And let's

850
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 3: give you the other side, Because if I'm Jay Z

851
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 3: and I gave a nigga fourteen million on some taxes,

852
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear them say nothing about no

853
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: super Bowl or nothing else. If I gave you fourteen million,

854
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 3: you really can't say nothing about nothing if I'm being honest.

855
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 3: But if I zoom out from a culture perspective and say, now,

856
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: JAYU in position baby, let's pass it to the south too,

857
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 3: It's almost like Jay look at the South like the

858
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 3: shooting forward.

859
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 7: On the team.

860
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 3: You know, I don't really get the ball in very

861
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 3: specific situations, And so you hear about little Wayne speak

862
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 3: about being hurt, almost like he was misled, but he

863
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: admitted he misled hisself. Now, if I'm Wayne in this situation,

864
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 3: I completely feel them. The millions of mentions, the trending

865
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: on X, all of the different blogs and think pieces

866
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: on it, along with deep down inside feeling like, Yo, man,

867
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 3: I really wanted to do that, that question coming up

868
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 3: before I can kind of understand that. But at the

869
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: same breath, if I'm jay Z, and I gave you

870
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: four team mean, I can't never hear you say you

871
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: got mad about my decision.

872
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 7: Is it petty?

873
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 3: It's petty, But I got you in a trick bag

874
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 3: out and I already helped you.

875
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 7: And this is not specific to jay Z.

876
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes listen, when you read some of these books, they

877
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 3: tell you about power when taking over and things like that.

878
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 3: You will see Instagram by WhatsApp and Facebook by Instagram,

879
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: and you see what I mean. These moves are strategic moves.

880
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: Early on in Apple's career, you know, you will see

881
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 3: a joint project in which they would share some of

882
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: their secrets with some of their competitors because they kind

883
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: of need each other to get to the next level.

884
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: And then and only then when you see that collaboration,

885
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 3: and listen, my conversation always surrounds preserving our culture down here,

886
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 3: because these stories need to be told as well. Not

887
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: in the next ten minutes, but I'm saying fifty years

888
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 3: from there, like rich homy Kwan. Rich homy Kwan just

889
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: passed away. You know what I said, God willing I

890
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 3: have more interactions with some of these bigger artists to

891
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 3: show that other side, to show that documentation of the process.

892
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,240
Speaker 3: How they look here, how they look in twenty thirteen,

893
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: how they look in twenty twenty, how they look in

894
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 3: twenty four. It's just stuff for their children fifty years

895
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: from now, people to study their thoughts that processes you see.

896
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: I looked at rich Homi Khan Analytics and the two

897
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 3: highest videos interviews over and our with interviews he have

898
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: is with revot TV and it's up their podcast, which

899
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 3: is me? And what does that say to me? It's

900
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 3: like when we have a conversation with people from the South,

901
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: it just hits different. It just hits different. When we

902
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: have a conversation period, it hits different. Me and Chico

903
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: Bean did seven hundred thousand. We ain't speak about nobody.

904
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 3: We just talked about life, right. So I pray to

905
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: be of use in the culture more to document some

906
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 3: of the stories of the South and not saying you

907
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 3: can't go up north and kan't fuck with everybody, because

908
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 3: I truly believe the game is big enough for all

909
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 3: of us, and they say, don't speak about it. But

910
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: my job is to spark the mind of the next

911
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 3: generation to let them know what they're headed in.

912
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 7: Two.

913
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: Think about Wayne showing love to Jay though he done

914
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 3: showed a lot of love. He doesn't show love in

915
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: a massive way. Same with Drake. How do you how

916
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 3: do you what you're gonna say about jay Now you're

917
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: not alridy say I didn't cry with Big Dad, but

918
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 3: I probably will when hold us or whatever the line

919
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: may be. It's like, you can't you can't nothing do that.

920
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: He's clearly does jay Z think he's above choosing sides

921
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 3: or being on the side. It's jay Z gonna in

922
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 3: the next few years try to give Lil Wayne twenty

923
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 3: twenty six in Kansas City or something like that, and

924
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 3: down the line five six, seven years from now when

925
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 3: the smoke clears, him and Drake kind of make up

926
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: and he says that, yo, bro, it was just a

927
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 3: moment for Kendrick right then, I ain't had nothing to

928
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 3: do with that.

929
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 7: I really didn't care. Do they bury the hatchet.

930
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: Because they give jay Z that leverage a lot in

931
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: his game, right, They give him the leverage of, yo,

932
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: you do what you want to do, and then four

933
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 3: or five years from now, we'll just look at it like, Yo,

934
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 3: the big Homie made the old G car. He made

935
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: the old G call y'all respect the old g car

936
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: and he done made a lot of money. Look, you

937
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 3: niggas respect money in this culture.

938
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 7: That's how it go.

939
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 3: Jay Don't got no smut on his name, So I

940
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 3: mean it come with a level of respect. But when

941
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: you're dealing with somebody that you show love to in

942
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 3: your career, you think you have a relationship, they come

943
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 3: to your town and they import the music as said,

944
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 3: for the biggest stage in the world, and that's your partner.

945
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 7: It just hit different.

946
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: So me looking at it as immediate person from the

947
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 3: south right, I just said, he way ain't in a

948
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 3: situation where he feels like you know, he's saying, Yo,

949
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 3: I let you out down. You ain't let you ain't

950
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: letting nobody down. It ain't your decision to make. And

951
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: jay Z get me the kind of energy here. Look

952
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: at Wayne and one of them niggas and just flat.

953
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 3: I'd be like, yo, because I didn't want to you

954
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: ain't no big, ain't no big. You know what I'm saying.

955
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna explain all about you know, the metrics

956
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 3: and the business behind it. You know they asked me, y'all,

957
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 3: I didn't want I didn't want I wanted to do

958
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 3: Kendred and it feels like they accept that.

959
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 7: You really can't do nothing but accept it.

960
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: I think what has people concerned is that when it's

961
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 3: campaign time, it's always an US thing, and you know,

962
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: I think that's a part of I think that's a

963
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 3: part of marketing as well, if I'm being honest, like,

964
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 3: I think some of the greatest people in business know

965
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: how to make you feel included. One thing my uncle

966
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 3: taught me when I was young, and he's still to this.

967
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 3: They tells me that, especially in this position right here,

968
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: it's just so hard for me. He always say, Nephew,

969
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: everybody want to feel a part or something. Everybody want

970
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: to feel a part or something. Everybody want to buy

971
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: into something. The reality of the situation is yo, he

972
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 3: went with Kendrick.

973
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 7: That's that.

974
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: On that. Let's talk about this Shannon Shaw thing for

975
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 3: those under where Shannon Shaw pulled a publicity stunt and

976
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 3: went live in what sounds like he was having sex

977
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 3: in the background. Let's pay attention to a little bit

978
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: of the video and put the kids to bed for

979
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: this party. He gets kind of graphic. You got an

980
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 3: old man hollering somebody full name during sex. Pel attention.

981
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, you go, then you then you go.

982
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: Dick.

983
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 14: Mob then right then you go, then you go, then

984
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 14: you go. Baby doesn't want the ship.

985
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 7: Boy Shannon Sharp did his big one didn't. Number one.

986
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 3: Let me tell you all little young Whooper snappers a

987
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: few things. You know what I'm saying. That's a couple

988
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 3: of things. Number one, that was a part in there

989
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: where he kind of went. You know, that means she

990
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: beating it. She beating the dogs shit out of him

991
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 3: with that pool. Now they're pulling that a wooman on him.

992
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 3: He trying to stand up in that pulling, that pulling

993
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: and a wooman on him. You understand, let it out, nigga.

994
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 7: But here's the thing, right.

995
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: I see, Uh there's a lot of women that have appreciations.

996
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: You know, it felt like what women were saying, it

997
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: felt like he took his time with her and he

998
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: wasn't because you know, when you look at most men,

999
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: and that's why I want to talk about a lot

1000
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 3: of y'all young dudes see their expecting to hear folowows

1001
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: asking shit, just clapping and yamping around there. You know

1002
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: he but you hear her, she she climb mixes, she

1003
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: hitting the notes. You understand me. And he he ain't

1004
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 3: doing no pounding around and throwing around the room.

1005
00:56:59,400 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1006
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 3: Now there's a space for that. Felt like he was

1007
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,399
Speaker 3: warm in up, you know. And some women enjoyed. Yeah,

1008
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: some women enjoy like handle the business. But I believe

1009
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: in this scenario, you dealt with Shannon shap gracefully trying

1010
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: to get him some Now, he didn't last long. You know,

1011
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: you think a nigga, you think a big old football

1012
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: nigga like this hire he gonna last thirty forty five minutes,

1013
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 3: You understand me.

1014
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 7: This shit was two minutes long, you know.

1015
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: But come to find out, in my opinion, it's a

1016
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 3: market it's done, it's a publicity's done. Because he dropped

1017
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: a product after this, or endorsed a product ed product

1018
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: right after this happened. Did they put that deal in

1019
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 3: place after that? I would have trouble believing that they

1020
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: would get to the numbers so quick, you know, within hours,

1021
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: and have it signed and go through legal and all

1022
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 3: of that in hours.

1023
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 7: So I truly believe that.

1024
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 3: Either he already had this product coming out and he

1025
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: was about to roll it out, or he did this

1026
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 3: to roll it out, because imagine he said that this

1027
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 3: was an accident and he didn't try to go live.

1028
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 3: Those of you that go live know the process it

1029
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 3: takes up going live. I've never been live. I don't

1030
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 3: go live. But for him to never went live, I

1031
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 3: can imagine them being in a boardroom someone saying, look,

1032
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: we've never went live. We endorsed this product. We go

1033
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 3: live in the middle of an encounter or what seems

1034
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 3: to be like an encounter. Everybody picks it up. Then

1035
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 3: we launched a product that night while we're addressing it,

1036
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 3: and we shut the website down. I believe that to

1037
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 3: be a market and play. I think that's a good strategy.

1038
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 3: I think that someone who is a creative director would

1039
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: look at that strategy and say, with someone like Shannon Shaw,

1040
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: up dead wins now here's well, I think we find

1041
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 3: some room for conversation. It's on the other side you

1042
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 3: have what Paul Pierce. If you are unaware, Shannon Sharp

1043
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 3: is not just a guy that does Club Sha and

1044
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: Night Capital cho Senko. He is also employed by ESPN

1045
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: where he does first Take and you know, other appearances

1046
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 3: on the network. Paul Pierce was let go for a

1047
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 3: particular video involving women.

1048
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 7: Let's look at this video.

1049
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 4: Monica hes to be you can back some money, golsto

1050
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 4: plane Monica, what you're doing. If you in l A

1051
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 4: come through.

1052
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 11: If you in l A Monica come through you.

1053
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 3: That video not only got Paul Pierce suspended. I want

1054
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 3: to make a correction of what I said. It ultimately

1055
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 3: got him worked out of the building and he found

1056
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 3: himself unemployed. Now what do we see in that video?

1057
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 3: We see a couple different strippers. You got some liquor

1058
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 3: in that video. I'm not sure if the public understands

1059
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: that there is something in these big time contracts.

1060
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 7: There's a character clause.

1061
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 3: In which you have to keep your nose clean for

1062
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 3: the most part, because you do represent a corporation of

1063
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 3: this magnitude and that does need to be respected. Let's

1064
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: let's keep all boundaries in place as it pertains to

1065
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: how long it has took for someone to build a

1066
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: company as big as an ESPN. So let's just keep

1067
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 3: everything in perspective. Paul Pierce spoke about ESPN's reaction to

1068
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 3: his video, and we're gonna deal with the difference between

1069
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 3: their reaction to his video and Shannon Sharp's video. And

1070
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,439
Speaker 3: we're gonna deal with the unfortunate reality of business as

1071
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 3: it pertains the value. But let's listen to Paul Pierce

1072
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 3: on im MA Athlete explain how he felt about ESPN's

1073
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: response to that video.

1074
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 6: I got fired for what on your day off? Like

1075
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 6: that man having some entertainment, right, I'm playing cards? Is

1076
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 6: my boy birthday? It's girls dancing and we bor on

1077
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 6: some tree. I mean, what did I do wrong?

1078
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 7: That's what it was.

1079
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 9: Though it looked like, hey, okay, what it looked like.

1080
01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 7: Like somebody I did. I'm turned off.

1081
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 11: I'm on live, like going crazy.

1082
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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, what's up out here? I'm getting the haircut

1083
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 6: to cut.

1084
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 7: It's cracky, it's popping, you know what I'm saying.

1085
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 6: I don't know why. I don't know. I will never

1086
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 6: go live either. I was just feeling my cut or

1087
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 6: something I was. Then it was popping behind me.

1088
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 9: It was.

1089
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 8: The joint.

1090
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 6: Come on, hey, I mean, look, the hood was feeling me.

1091
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 8: Everybody was.

1092
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 6: Everybody sorry to hit me, and there's a higher up.

1093
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 4: It was a lady.

1094
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 6: She's like, yeah, we're doing, you know, an investigation. I'm like,

1095
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 6: you know, can you tell us what happened? I'm like,

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01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 6: you see it. I mean I was just I was.

1097
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,919
Speaker 6: I was just hanging out, uh, playing cards. It wasn't

1098
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 6: my house. I mean it was self explanatory. Some girls dancing,

1099
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 6: and I was, you know, I have some o G

1100
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 6: I mean legal, it's legal. I didn't do you know,

1101
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, it's Disney. So they

1102
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 6: was like, you know, they have a moros.

1103
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 3: Cause first of all, the people that was in Paul

1104
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: Pierces video, I mean, I guess to them, they look

1105
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 3: like some baddies.

1106
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I'm gonna just leave it there.

1107
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: And Shannon Sharp video, it's crazy because the Internet win

1108
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: it on a spreed like looking for trying to find

1109
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 3: who she was, the Puerto Rican princess. You know she

1110
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 3: clearly was on there. And see Shannon Sharp is on there.

1111
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,240
Speaker 3: You know he the kind of nigga he done got old,

1112
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 3: so he he know people by the full name. You

1113
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: know when you get old, you know you get older.

1114
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 3: You know people you talking about Bob Arrow, you talking

1115
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 3: about John Wilson, you know, you know people by their

1116
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 3: whole name. I couldn't imagine see he in there hitting

1117
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 3: the lady. They gonna, ma, that's my dann year. Shantae

1118
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,439
Speaker 3: Johnson get a darn year, Shantae Johnson, that's my dann Yell.

1119
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: Get a Michelle, Yes, Michelle, that's my Michelle. It's like

1120
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 3: bro I would have had to give hers. I'm kind

1121
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 3: of the name. We're gonna come up with something that

1122
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 3: hit a little harder than you know. And I like

1123
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 3: Michelle as a as a real name, but I'm saying,

1124
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 3: in the heat of the moment, I can't give you

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01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: the whole name.

1126
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 7: Baby.

1127
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 3: I love you, I'm fucking with you too. It's feeling wonderful,

1128
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 3: but I can't.

1129
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 7: I hold that Michelle Daniels.

1130
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 3: You know, I ain't gonna do it to you like it.

1131
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 3: I'm gonna live Shannon shawp do it to you like it.

1132
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 3: But Paul Pierce got fired.

1133
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 7: Listen.

1134
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: It's an unfortunate reality because Paul Pierce is talented as

1135
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 3: not only a content broadcaster, as an NBA player. But bruh,

1136
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 3: he ain't Shannon Shaw. Listen, dam man, Let's get an

1137
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: elephant in the room some peanuts. He is not Shannon Shaw.

1138
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 3: The value attached to Shannon Shaw, particularly in this moment,

1139
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 3: calls for you to look at that different than you

1140
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 3: looked at the Paul Pierce moment. Paul Pierce may have

1141
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 3: been valuable in that time, but nowhere near like Shannon Shaw. Actually,

1142
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: I believe ESPN had been in the situationation where they

1143
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: were gonna let Shannon Shap go Nigga. Shannon Shaw was

1144
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 3: almost out the building to that club Shay shake Cat Williams.

1145
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 7: Thing done it.

1146
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: When Shae Sha done that Cat Williams, it placed all

1147
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 3: his attributes sliding meters on one hundred and so the

1148
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 3: crowd was waiting mottle ESPN reaction B because we saw

1149
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 3: them fire Paul Pierce. We saw them, you know, hit

1150
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 3: certain people with this moral conduct character clause. How would

1151
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 3: they respond to one of their head people or second

1152
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,439
Speaker 3: or third in command on one of their bigger shows

1153
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 3: have a leak of him having sex for what looks

1154
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 3: like to promote some product at this point, like listen,

1155
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 3: I hate to say that, but that's what it looks like.

1156
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: And here's something else I want you to pay attention to.

1157
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 3: That's one person that I ain't seen make one joke.

1158
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 3: And who is that? You guessed it? Steven A Smell.

1159
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: Somebody take them.

1160
01:05:58,960 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 7: I'm the business.

1161
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 3: We ain't saw Stephen A. Smith come out and chuckle

1162
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: one time we ain't saw Stephen A. Smith say key

1163
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 3: key of cock card come in or about that like

1164
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 3: it's funny because they have a level of professionalism at ESPN.

1165
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: First take that, I believe Stephen A. Smith is like,

1166
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 3: I don't know how to take that when I'm gonna

1167
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 3: reserve my opinion at the moment and watch how things develop,

1168
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 3: and when you pop out with a product like a

1169
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: Viagra type product next to it, I'm sure Stephen A.

1170
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 3: Smith in the back of his mind, no matter what

1171
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 3: he's saying in public, in the back of Stephen A.

1172
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 3: Smith mind, I believe him to be truly took it

1173
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 3: back by that Shannon Shaw thing, not only from Shannon's perspective,

1174
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 3: but my relationship with ESPN, because had that been me

1175
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: four years ago, two years ago, what would happen had

1176
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 3: that been me?

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01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 7: Now? Does it look different now? Steven A.

1178
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 3: Smith is valuable to ESPN. His contract says it. His

1179
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 3: negotiations for his new contract said, but the Shannon Sharp

1180
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,479
Speaker 3: devalue that show. Doing that has Shannon shap put first,

1181
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 3: take second on his agenda or third on his agenda

1182
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 3: behind Club Shayshae and Nightcap. So I will even leverage

1183
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: my TV career.

1184
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 7: For my ed.

1185
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: Viagra product that I have ownership be in because I

1186
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 3: know that TV career let me go at any moment.

1187
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 3: So as a black man, Steven A. Smith gotta probably

1188
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 3: sit back and say he know they'll let him go

1189
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 3: if he get cold, he better use the White Hill.

1190
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 7: But I wonder has Steven A.

1191
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,840
Speaker 3: Smith had any conversations with ESPN regarding that in regarding

1192
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 3: his relationship with them, because I've seen them discipline him

1193
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 3: for things that just came out of his mouth that

1194
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: could have been misunderstood by the public in the audience,

1195
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: not even ill intent, but just could be misunderstood because

1196
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 3: I said it in the climate. I didn't read the room.

1197
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: But they may have suspended him. They let Paul Pierce

1198
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: go for having girls in the background, right, So I

1199
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: want you guys to really understand that value will have

1200
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 3: you bulletproof in some of these buildings. They'll deal with

1201
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 3: you as long as they have to deal with you,

1202
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 3: and up until that point they'll handle you accordingly. But

1203
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,680
Speaker 3: as soon as you fall off, you'll feel the real

1204
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: rath of you shouldn't have never done what you've done,

1205
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 3: how you've done it. Shannon Shaw was just having a

1206
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: conversation with o Cho Sinko about being professional and then

1207
01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 3: the next week he go live with the six tape

1208
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 3: going let's see that conversation and then we'll get out

1209
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 3: of here.

1210
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 13: It was really cool, really cool dude, And it was Alix.

1211
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 13: He was really cool, really cool dude. And as soon

1212
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 13: as he opened the car door and he got out

1213
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 13: the car door to greet me, the car door locked

1214
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 13: by accident.

1215
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 7: The cardo a locked by accident.

1216
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 13: So I would have been on time, but the fact

1217
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 13: that we had to wait for the tow truck and

1218
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 13: then to bring the slim jem was the reason for

1219
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 13: my delay and getting to the hotel a little late.

1220
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 7: But I'm here, nine, I'm here nine. I ask your question.

1221
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 8: So when you go, uhh, when you go to ESPN,

1222
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 8: you go, you take you have people pick you up

1223
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 8: from theirport.

1224
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No you don't.

1225
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 8: When you do inside the NFL, you have people pick

1226
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 8: you up.

1227
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 7: From yeah at the beginning, yeah.

1228
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 8: No you don't. Uh So, I'll just trying to figure

1229
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 8: out why would your show would you choose to take

1230
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 8: that rock where you don't take that rock for esp

1231
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 8: I wouldn't laning.

1232
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 13: I'm I'm dead serious. When I when I was flying

1233
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 13: in Field, I had somebody picked me up fro Philly.

1234
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 13: When I flying in New York, I had somebody to

1235
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 13: pick me up in New York. I I'm serious. I

1236
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 13: didn't what they told me. I just I just talked.

1237
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 7: Listen to that is documented.

1238
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 13: Oh it's documented.

1239
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 8: I'm just telling you.

1240
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 11: But all you have to tell you what this is

1241
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 11: social my tweets.

1242
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 7: I've been doing it in the past fifteen years.

1243
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 13: I always do this.

1244
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that. So talking to show right again?

1245
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 8: Oh Joe, right right? Why would you be like? Why

1246
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:52,759
Speaker 8: would you run the risk of being.

1247
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 7: I didn't want to be late. I just told me

1248
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 7: what happened.

1249
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 13: I would have been on time, but due to the

1250
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 13: unfortunate circumstances of him locking the keys in his car,

1251
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 13: which I documented, I was just little leap one.

1252
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 8: Why don't you, Ojo, Why don't you just why don't

1253
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 8: you just have the people that you're working for, just

1254
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 8: having the book? That's okay.

1255
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 13: I don't like them people. They be meaning, they be bougie.

1256
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 13: I don't like you know, they be in suits and

1257
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 13: ties and ship that don't make me comfortable, that don't

1258
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 13: make me comfortable. What makes me comfortable is like like

1259
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 13: being able to sit down and talk.

1260
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 8: Wait, you want to be comfortable, you want to know.

1261
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 13: I want to be comfortable.

1262
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,240
Speaker 7: I want to talk to people that I can relate to.

1263
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just that. But you see her The thing,

1264
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 8: O Joe, you say you want to be professional, you

1265
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 8: want to do ESPN, you want to do all these

1266
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 8: professional things, but you want to take a bootleg.

1267
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 13: No, no, no, I want to I want to remain my

1268
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 13: authentic self the same way I've always been and do

1269
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 13: those things.

1270
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,439
Speaker 7: Is that Okay, Okay, let me know how to work

1271
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 7: out for you.

1272
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 8: Colorado Lost.

1273
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 3: The conversation we just watched was Shannon Sharp speaking of

1274
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 3: Chad o Cho Sinko about the level of professionalism, not

1275
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: being late, handling the business, how you're supposed to handle

1276
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 3: the business. Everything button up, uniform, you have the right

1277
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 3: people in place, there are no excuses, there are no tomorrows.

1278
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,400
Speaker 7: We get it done today. They stand up strong.

1279
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 3: And then a week later this tape arising, and I

1280
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:08,679
Speaker 3: got a lot of love and respect for Shannon Shap

1281
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 3: Chad Johnson, all these individuals. My job is to report

1282
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 3: news on the culture, so hopefully these guys are not

1283
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 3: in their feelings. I don't know him personally, so I

1284
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 3: just want to put that disclaim out because this may

1285
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: come across that desk at some point. And this is

1286
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 3: me doing my job, and I'm always be my authentic

1287
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: self and that's just how I've gotten to this position

1288
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 3: I'm in. But naturally, after this, seeing that Shannon Sharp

1289
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: had a very checkered past, as it pertains to some

1290
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: of these networks I e.

1291
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:46,719
Speaker 7: Espn Ie, Fox Sports.

1292
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 3: Him and Skip had a very bumpy relationship in which

1293
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 3: Skip several times have called Shannon Sharp out on camera

1294
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:58,639
Speaker 3: quote unquote, embarrassed him, and they didn't believe Shannon would

1295
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 3: continue to prosper as a content creator and a podcaster,

1296
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 3: broadcaster and as a business owner.

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Speaker 7: Board what they wrong?

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Speaker 3: And so now people look at damn you cheat, you

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Speaker 3: treating Chad Johnson like this. When Chad Johnson was over

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Speaker 3: at IA, he was at im athlete, he left that

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Speaker 3: or he was clear from that, and then he came

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Speaker 3: over there with you and went all in. And now

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,520
Speaker 3: you talking bad to him. So he was under criticism.

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01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 3: I'm not saying. I'm not saying I shared that opinion.

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Speaker 3: He was under a certain amount of criticism for being

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Speaker 3: the person that had this level of conversation on air

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Speaker 3: with Chad Johnson.

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Speaker 7: His response to that was, what this video pay attention.

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Speaker 8: Look, there's been a lot said, we up you trying

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Speaker 8: to do the O Joe? What Skip did to you?

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01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 8: Blah blah blah. No, what I am gonna do is

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Speaker 8: that I'm gonna push, I'm gonna pull, I'm gonna drag

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Speaker 8: Ojo to a level that he didn't think he could

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Speaker 8: get to see. I heard, I saw some of the

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Speaker 8: comments on YouTube series. It's just a little internet show.

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Speaker 8: It's a YouTube show for you. That's all you see

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Speaker 8: it as. But that's not the vision that I shared

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Speaker 8: with Ocho when we sat down. That's not the vision

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Speaker 8: that Ocho say, Oh we can do that. Yes, I say,

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Speaker 8: you see what these other guys are getting, but I

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 8: can't go when I sit down with these studios and

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Speaker 8: they says, okay, Shannon, what can you do? What do

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01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 8: you want to do? How do you gonna how are

1324
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 8: you gonna package this? What are you looking for? Because

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01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,799
Speaker 8: when you go to a studio, they want a timeslot.

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Speaker 8: They want like, okay, where you what timeslot you want

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Speaker 8: to be in? And Okay, we'll count on you being

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 8: in that slot. Yes, yes, absolutely, And so I want

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Speaker 8: o Cho to take it serious. I've conveyed this with Ochoe. Ocho.

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Speaker 8: I'm not telling breaking Earth, you know, interrupting your normally

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01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 8: scheduled program practice programming, because I just want Ocho to understand,

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Speaker 8: this is Ocho's show, this is my show, and I

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01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 8: want him to take it as serious instead of lily

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01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 8: like when he goes on first take. Be great on

1335
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 8: first take, inside the NFL, be great on those But

1336
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 8: I want o Chow to understand we gonna only go

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01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 8: as far as he and I can take this thing

1338
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Speaker 8: and the heights that I dream. And I think what

1339
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 8: he's conveyed to me is that we're gonna have to

1340
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 8: do this together. But there has to be a level

1341
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 8: of professionalism. There has to be a courtesy of being

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 8: on time. I respect his time, and I want him

1343
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 8: to respect because there's a lot of people. We started out,

1344
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 8: it was just Oho myself, one person in the studio

1345
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 8: in ash. We got eleven people. Now we got editors,

1346
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 8: we got graphics, we got extra producers. Look, there's been

1347
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 8: a lot saying what you trying to do to Ohoe?

1348
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 8: What skip did to you, blah blah blah. No, what

1349
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 8: I am gonna do is that I'm gonna push, I'm

1350
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 8: gonna pull. I'm gonna drag Oho to a level that

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 8: he didn't think he could get to see.

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01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 2: I heard.

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01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 8: I saw some of the comments all of YouTube series.

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 8: It's just a little internet show. It's a YouTube show

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 8: for you. That's all you see it as. But that's

1356
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 8: not the vision that I shared with Ocho when we

1357
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 8: sat down. That's not the vision that Ocho say, Oh

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 8: we can do that. Yes, I say, you see what

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01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 8: the other guys are getting, but I can't go when

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01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 8: I sit down with these studios and they say, okay, Shannon,

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01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 8: what can you do? What do you want to do?

1362
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 8: How are you gonna how are you gonna package this?

1363
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 8: What are you looking for? Because when you go to

1364
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,679
Speaker 8: a studio, they want a timeslot. They want to like, okay,

1365
01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 8: where you what timeslot you want to be in? And

1366
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 8: okay we account on you being in that slot. Yes, yes, absolutely,

1367
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,840
Speaker 8: And so I want Ocho to take it serious. I've

1368
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 8: conveyed this with Oho. Ocho. I'm not telling breaking earth,

1369
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 8: you know, interrupting your normally scheduled program practic programming, because

1370
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 8: I just want Ocho to understand this is Ocho's show,

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01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 8: this is my show, and I want him to take

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01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 8: it as serious instead of live like when he goes

1373
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 8: on first take. Be great on first tape, inside the NFL,

1374
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 8: be great on those But I want o Cho to

1375
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:49,360
Speaker 8: understand we gonna only go as far as he and

1376
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 8: I can take this thing and the heights that I dream.

1377
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 8: And I think what he's conveyed to me is that

1378
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 8: we're gonna have to do this together. But there has

1379
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 8: to be a level of professionalism. There has to be

1380
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 8: a courtesy of being on time, respect his time, and

1381
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 8: I want him to respect because there's a lot of people.

1382
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 8: We started out, it was just Oho, myself, one person

1383
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 8: in the studio and Ash. We got eleven people. Now

1384
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 8: we got editors, we got graphics, we got extra producers,

1385
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 8: we got a social producers, and so I know y'all

1386
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,919
Speaker 8: took it to try to run. This is a conversation.

1387
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 8: Ocho and I've had conversation of cameras. Ocho have conveyed

1388
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 8: to me what he wants to accomplish with Nightcap, all

1389
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 8: the while expanding his bread and doing first take. I

1390
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 8: whole hardy support.

1391
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 3: And so that Shannon Shaw response to some of the criticism. Listen,

1392
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 3: Shannon Shaw is trying to run a business at a

1393
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 3: very high level. He's did some monumental things, covered a

1394
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 3: lot of ground in a short amount of time.

1395
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 7: I think at this point, you're.

1396
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 3: Gonna see some of the frustrations play out. You're gonna

1397
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 3: see him be aggravated, You're gonna see him go through

1398
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: some of the growing pains of being a power player

1399
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 3: in any industry. And so I think he's doing a

1400
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,720
Speaker 3: great job. I think he's gonna be okay. A situation

1401
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 3: with him and Chad Listen, Man, things happen on camera.

1402
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes if I get a co host, you may see

1403
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 3: me hold him accountable for things because I'm not playing

1404
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 3: about this thing. That's another reason why getting a co

1405
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 3: host is such a daunting task. And I think that

1406
01:17:18,200 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 3: the general public downplays the fact that having a dope

1407
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 3: co host is such a hard thing to do. That's

1408
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 3: why when we look at Wallo and Gilea, it works.

1409
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 3: That's why they over in the Joe Budden universe is like,

1410
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,839
Speaker 3: how is he able to make almost anybody he brings

1411
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: in there a part of that thing? And it still

1412
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: is that thing right, It still has that structure to it,

1413
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 3: and so you see people like me academic, some of

1414
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 3: these other people that don't necessarily have co hosts. Sometimes

1415
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 3: you gotta have a ying and a yang. Sometimes you

1416
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 3: need two people that balance off each other and others.

1417
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 7: It's just it's a daunting task.

1418
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 3: So when Shannon Sharp and Chad Johnson decided to do

1419
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 3: night Cap, I knew that they would have some sort

1420
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: of logistic issues because I know Chad Johnson to be

1421
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 3: in Florida, Shannon to be out in La on the

1422
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 3: West Coast. So I was wondering about that. They have

1423
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 3: managed to get the quality almost perfect on Nightcap, and

1424
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 3: that actually is making me look at like I got

1425
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 3: a couple names, one of them actually from New York

1426
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 3: that I'm like, man, maybe if me and him did

1427
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,960
Speaker 3: something like this, it'll set it on five like every week,

1428
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 3: just meet up and chop it like this, really take

1429
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 3: it serious, really have a producer. It'll probably go, you know,

1430
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 3: and you keep the budget down because you don't have

1431
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: to fly all around town just to get one episode in,

1432
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 3: or fly in get six episodes in and then they're

1433
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 3: dated by the time they come out six weeks.

1434
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Speaker 7: Later you did.

1435
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: So there's that was that they figured that out and

1436
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,719
Speaker 3: they've been moving. But you know, we'll see how everything

1437
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 3: plays out. I think they have. So Chad Johnson was

1438
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 3: just over on Iron Athlete. People kind of forget about that.

1439
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 3: He was on Iron athleet like Brandon Marshall, had a

1440
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 3: legendary squad over there. He had Fred Channing, Chad dj

1441
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 3: he had Leshaun McCoy. He just had a powerhouse team.

1442
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,640
Speaker 3: It was early in the industry though, you know what

1443
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 3: I'm saying. It was early in the industry then dogs

1444
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 3: just think he had he if that would have stayed

1445
01:19:28,760 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 3: in place back then they would have been eligible for

1446
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 3: one of these humongous deals. A lot of those guys say,

1447
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 3: you know, the business wasn't right, you know, and b

1448
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 3: has actually moved on. I think he's he's starting to

1449
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 3: uh record new episodes of Iron Athlete, so y'all go

1450
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: check that out. Of course, the pivot, they've still been moving,

1451
01:19:50,320 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 3: so you know, those guys are still rolling. But that's

1452
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 3: today's episode, man. So we're gonna start being much more involved,

1453
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 3: much more instrumental, much more visible with you guys and

1454
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 3: just come in and give it episodes more. Hopefully it

1455
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,839
Speaker 3: helps people get through their day. They enjoy the content,

1456
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 3: they enjoy the conversations. And then we got some coming up.

1457
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 3: What we are having a call out, and you could

1458
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 3: be sitting on that other couch right there real soon.

1459
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 7: You gotta have the talent. Let's go.

1460
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 3: It's up the podcast, but those of you be there,

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01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: the doctor Umar C. October eighth man, let's get it.