1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class from how 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: I'm Holly Fry and I'm Tracy Vie Wilson. So if 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: you follow us on social media, you know that I 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: was recently at Salt Lake Comic Con fan X and 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: since tracy schedule was a bit too hectic leading up 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: to her wedding, our friend Brian Young, who was our 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: guest on our live show from New York Super Week 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: last year, was kind enough to sit in as my 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: guest host. And this this is going to be the 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: first of two live shows that Brian and I did, 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: and this one focuses on film history in Salt Lake City. 13 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: I was so glad that he was able to join 14 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: you because I just did not have room in the 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: schedule or like, I think it's six hours flights each 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: way from Boston to Salt Lake and and then the 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: time they're like, I really wanted to be able to 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: make it, I just couldn't make the schedule work. So, uh, first, 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Ally and Bryan are going to talk about, um, We're 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: going to talk about Charlie Chaplin. Heads up, there's gonna 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: be a little bit of talk about prostitution towards the 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: end of that first segment, like there's no details involved, 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: but a brief mention of a rumor regarding Charlie Chaplin 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: in his time in Utah. And as we've mentioned before, 25 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: our live shows often are a little more casual than 26 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: our work in the studio. Yeah, so sometimes you know 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: we make we make slightly more adult jokes, but we 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: tried to keep it clean. I don't think there's anything 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: that is horrifying for a kid to hear. But do you 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: you me want to review if you listen with younger 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: history bucks, So let's hop into my chat with Brian 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: about Salt Lake and it's surprisingly important place in the 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: history of cinema. Hi everybody, Oh my gosh, it's so 34 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: good to see you guys. Uh so, this is Stuffy, 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: this history class, our first Salt Lake live show indeed, 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: and this is this is my first time in salt Lake. 37 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: Your city is spectacular, Like it's gorgeous. There's lots of 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: great walking, you have amazing people. Someone um oh Knitter 39 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: who lives here and couldn't make the show, drop this 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: off at my hotel. It's the tiniest Queen Victoria of 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: all time. It's so spectacular. It even has a tiny 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: red petty coach and her bloomers. It's just the absolute best. So, um, 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: I have enjoyed myself already so much. How many of 44 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: you do we get to see again tomorrow? A lot? 45 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: A lot? Uh, you probably know Brian Young, he's local. 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: Nobody knows me, well they do. Now tell us who 47 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: you are, pumpkin. Um. So my name is Brian Young, 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: and I if you're at the convention, you've probably seen 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: me on Star Wars panels because I write first star 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Wars dot Com and Star Wars Insider, and I do 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: a podcast called Full of Sith that we've had Hollyann 52 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: on three or four times now, right, yeah, well including 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: yesterday four times. This real hard. I can always keep up. 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: And uh, I'm also a giant history nerd, and I 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: wrote a book called The Children's Illustrated History of Presidential Assassination. Um. 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: And so because of that book, Holly and Tracy liked it, 57 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: and they asked me to come on the show to 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: do their live show in New York, UM, which was 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And then they were like, well, 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: we're going to do a show in Salt Lake and 61 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Tracy can't make it. Yeah, Tracy is now in the 62 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: home stretch to getting married. She's just a couple more 63 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: weeks and we did a show in Chicago last week, 64 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: so she's like, I can't do back to back. So 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: thankfully we have Brian as our pinch hitter. I'm so 66 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: lucky that we have you in the wings. I that's 67 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: flattering to me. I'm just like I said, I'm I'm 68 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: very fortunate. So hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 69 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: Holly Fry and I'm Brian yup. Uh. And what you 70 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: guys may or may not know, is that your city 71 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: is really tightly linked to some pretty key moments in 72 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: early cinema. I didn't even realize it until Brian mentioned 73 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: it and we started looking at it like there are 74 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: some very important things that came directly out of Salt Lake. 75 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things. If you talk about 76 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: Hollywood towns are like movie towns. You think of New York, 77 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: and you think of l A and you maybe think 78 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: of Vancouver, and lately Atlanta has been getting some action, 79 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: although based on some politics going on, Disney may not 80 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: be there filming anymore for Marvel. Uh. But Salt Lake 81 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: doesn't usually come up, but historically it's got some really 82 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: pivotal moments and those are what we're going to talk 83 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: about today. Indeed, indeed, so we're gonna kick off h 84 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: with the fabulous and delicious one of my favorites, Charlie Chaplin. 85 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites too. And uh, Charlie Chaplin was, 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it, the biggest movie star in 87 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: the world when he made his way to Salt Lake City. 88 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: But um back when he made his career, it was 89 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: as a one reel star, right, So movies were ten 90 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: or twelve minutes long and they were just full of 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: gags and that was that. And he set out to 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: make his first feature film. Um so, so he would 93 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: star as the Tramp and they were the most beloved 94 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: films anywhere. And I think to put that in context, 95 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: like imagine Mickey Mouse now like times a hundred, and 96 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: that's sort of Charlie Chaplin back in the nineteen teams 97 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: and twenties. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think of 98 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: a current actual human actor, not that I don't love 99 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: my Mickey, but who is even comparable, And it's actually 100 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: pretty hard to come up with somebody, because remember there 101 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: weren't films coming out, you know, a dozen a week. 102 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: It was like, this was your entertainment, and it was 103 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: a pretty shy load in terms of what there really 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: was to go see at the cinema, and he was 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: one of the few people that was just cranking them 106 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: out and entertaining people constantly. So he was ubiquitous and 107 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: he is synonymous with entertainment. And it was a global 108 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: phenomenon too, I mean, because the films were silent, you 109 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: didn't need language too to communicate, so they could just 110 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: send these prints off all over the world. And he 111 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: became the biggest star in the world. So um. But 112 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighteen, he'd suffered a series of personal tragedies. 113 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: He'd been pushed into a marriage with a seventeen year 114 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: old bride, uh, they lost a child, and he'd hit 115 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: what he considered a creative slump, and he opted to 116 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: return to filmmaking with his first feature length film. And 117 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: by feature length, this was about This was a sixty 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: or seventy minute film, which is really short by our 119 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: standards today, but back then this was as long as 120 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: films went. Yeah, considering that twelve minutes was a standard 121 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: long ish an hour is suddenly an hour seven, an 122 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: hour to seventy minutes is suddenly a huge and ambitious undertaking. 123 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: So the film he decided he was going to work 124 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: on was called The Kid, and the Kid is It's 125 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: one of my farit movies. It's just it's touching, it's fantastic, 126 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: it's hilarious, and it was a very long, slow shoot 127 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: because Chaplin was a perfectionist. Um. One thing I found 128 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: interesting in researching this episode is that um, for every 129 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: fifty three minutes of film that Charlie Chaplin rolled, only 130 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: one minute made it into the final picture. Yes, so 131 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: if you do the math on that thousands of minutes, 132 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: it's a lot for somebody to take on. Like I said, ambitious. 133 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: He was not not shy about jumping into the deep end. 134 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: So this this young wife of his, her name was 135 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: Mildred Harris Um. By the time production was winding down, Uh, 136 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: she wanted a divorce. And as people who want divorces, uh, 137 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: they also want money and things in that separation. And 138 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: so instead of uh staying to have the lawyers take 139 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: the film from them because it could be declared a 140 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: marital asset, he got his editor, his cinematographer packed five 141 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: hundred rolls of this film into coffee canes and drove 142 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: straight to Salt Lake City. Uh. And in this this 143 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: haven of Salt Lake at the Hotel Utah which is 144 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: now the Joseph Smith Memorial Building, something a lot of 145 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: you probably drive or walk by all the time. Uh. 146 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: Chaplain who was in disguise, He was completely on the 147 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: d L trying to hide out, was editing this film. 148 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: And we cannot stress enough, and I'll have Brian speak 149 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: to it a little bit more in a second. How 150 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: incredibly risky and dangerous this was. You may immediately think, oh, 151 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: because he's hiding from a legal divorce settlement. No, No, 152 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: this was physically very risky. Uh. The nitrate film stock 153 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: that they were using was super duper flammable and it 154 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: was not allowed in public buildings. Literally, like a kiny 155 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: spark would have sent that hotel up in flames. Yeah. 156 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: Film today, when I mean we have digital film now, 157 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: but even five ten years ago and in still some 158 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: places when you see seventy millimeter film that's all like 159 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: a plastic or a nylon film that they use, it's 160 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: it's a safety film. But back then it was it 161 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 1: was ready to go off at a moment's notice. And 162 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: if you listen to the show, you know all about 163 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: theater fires. We've had a number of those featured as 164 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: topics and they go poorly. Uh. And and this is 165 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: an age where everyone smoked too. So he's at the 166 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: hotel Utah uh with five hundred roles of this film 167 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: ready to go up in a moment's notice. It's quite 168 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: amazing we still have that building today. Well, and it's 169 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that's super risky from his 170 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: point of view. Of course, it puts himself in an 171 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: incredibly dangerous position. It's also kind of a jerk move 172 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: because he put every single person in that hotel in 173 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: danger as well. So while I'm a big Chaplin fan 174 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: and i love him and his work and I'm glad 175 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: the film got made, that was that very nice, it 176 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: was very unsafe h uh. And he actually gave an 177 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: interview in the August nine edition of the Deserret News 178 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: and he showed up dressed in green silk pajamas, because 179 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: what's more zazzi and fabulous than that? Uh? And he 180 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: told reporters that, uh, lawyers could be more mercenary than 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: one's wife, and that Los Angeles was such a hotbed 182 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: of the profession and newspaperman that he came to Salt 183 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: Lake to concentrate on his work. So Salt Lake offered 184 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 1: him a haven both from his legal woes and just 185 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: creatively where he didn't have to deal with all of 186 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: the pressures of the industry. UM. So the interesting thing 187 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: about is he he worked. He went to work, and 188 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: he got together a version of the film and the 189 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: first audience in the world that saw the first sneak 190 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: preview of the Kid, which is an incredibly important motion picture, 191 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: um for a lot of reasons. Even the kid himself. 192 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys know this is Jackie Coogan, 193 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: who is uncle Fester on Adam's family, is like a 194 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: six year old kid. It um. The first screening was 195 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City, So the first time anyone ever 196 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: saw this hugely important moment in cinema history was was 197 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: right down the street here at a theater on Main Street. 198 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: And eventually, of course, he did leave Salt Lake. He 199 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: did not make this his permanent residence, and he headed 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: back to He headed to New York. At that point 201 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: he got his divorce settled finally, and then The Kid 202 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: was released in nineteen twenty one, so that was three 203 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: years that he was really working on it. And now, 204 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: of course, as Brand said, it's one of the most 205 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: important films ever made. It's like, if you take a 206 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 1: cinema class, you're watching The Kid the end, uh. And 207 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: it's a wonderful film. And it was cut and screened 208 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: right here in Salt Lake. Um, for those who are interested. 209 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they did sort of memorialize this, uh exodus 210 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: of his movie and of cutting this movie in Richard 211 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Attenborough's Chaplain starring Robert Downey Jr. Which it doesn't look 212 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: anything like Salt Lake City, but they got the facts 213 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: of that part of the divorce and things straight in 214 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: the film. And it's a fantastic film. You should check 215 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: out if you if you haven't. So to wrap up 216 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: with the Chaplain segment, you want to talk about prostitute 217 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: for a second, Brian, I do. So it's been reported 218 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: to me, and I couldn't find any firsthand sources, um, 219 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: but I could. I couldn't find any firsthand evidence of it. 220 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: But people had told me, as they had been researching 221 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: this for their own film history, that that Charlie Chaplin 222 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: was convinced that the prostitutes in Salt Lake City were 223 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: the best in the country. Um, so we have that 224 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: going for right, that's a claim. Same Well, this idea 225 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: that Japlin was so brazen as to take all this 226 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: flammable film into a hotel with them, that's kind of 227 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: scary to think about. That was a little dangerous. Yeah, 228 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: it's a very dangerous move. But it's really cool to 229 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: know that the final cut of the Kid was really 230 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: born and screened in Salt Lake City for the first time, 231 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: and that certainly puts the city on the map in 232 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: terms of film history. Or get to the next track 233 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: of film history associated with Felt Lake. We're going to 234 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: pause for a word for a sponsor. Next up, we 235 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: are going to hop into the Marx Brothers and how 236 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: they owed some of their really their greatest success to 237 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: the time that they spent in Salt Lake. We will 238 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: also talk about Edgar Rice Burroughs and his time in 239 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: Utah and how it shaped his writing. You may be 240 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: surprised to hear that his work in Salt Lake really 241 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with writing though. And now moving 242 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: on to the next thing. Another prolific and important uh, 243 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: film creator, although this is multiple creators. We're gonna talk 244 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about the Marx Brothers. Yeah, the Marx Brothers. 245 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: Everybody knows the Marx Brothers. And Duck Soup is one 246 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: of those movies that you hear it's on the top 247 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: of all of the best comedy lists and it's one 248 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: of the funniest movies of all time. But when it 249 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: came out, it was a flop. People didn't like it, 250 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: and they were they in a contract with Paramount Pictures 251 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: for uh duck Soup, and they were not pleased with 252 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: how that went out. So in n three, uh, they 253 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: were released from their contract and they didn't know what 254 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: they were going to do next. Uh. Yeah. I always 255 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: have to laugh because if you ask any film student 256 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: like what their favorites are, duck Soup always pops up, 257 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: like it's kind of like the hipster cool thing that 258 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: I love duck Soup. It's fantastic change my life. But 259 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: at the time people are like, well, duck Soup not 260 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: so much. But thankfully, even though they were dropped, they 261 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: ended up getting picked up by MGM, and producer Irving 262 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Thalberg was working with them, and he insisted that the 263 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: problem with the material was that it didn't have a story. 264 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: It was just gags after gags after gags with no 265 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: reel through line. And so to help them refine the 266 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: storyline and the jokes in their next film, which was 267 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: A Night at the Opera, which is also fantastic, uh 268 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: Falberg decided that they needed to go on a tour 269 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: and actually workshop their material with live audiences in cities 270 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: to actually write good, strong jokes. And their first stop 271 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: was right here in Salt Lake. So the Marx Brothers 272 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: they they arrived in Salt Lake, some by plane because 273 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: they were enthusiasts that way, and others by rail. Um 274 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: they came to the Orpheum Theater. The Orpheum Theater is 275 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: now sort of an abandoned husk of a building that 276 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: was the the Utah Theater on Main Street, UM and 277 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: this was this old movie palace that could fit twelve 278 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: hundred people at a time UM and this served as 279 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: their home for a full week in the in April 280 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: of ninety five, and they performed at least four shows 281 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: a day to sold out crowds um the tickets at 282 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: this time, so they were charging tickets to do this 283 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: refining act as well so it wasn't just like, hey, 284 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: go out and fix the script. It's like, hey, go 285 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: make people pay you to fix the script. Um tickets 286 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: were forty cents for matinee, fifty five cents for evening shows, 287 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: and kids got in for a time. Well, somebody's got 288 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: to pay for their hotel and their travel, and yeah, 289 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: it just works out. It wasn't just the Marx Brothers either. 290 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I think one of the most fascinating parts about it 291 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: is they brought a cast of forty Yeah. It was like, 292 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you were getting your money's worth. It wasn't 293 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: like when you go to open mic night and you 294 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: watch people really clunk it up for a while trying 295 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: to figure out where their voices and where their jokes are. 296 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, they came with a production, so you were 297 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: just kind of paying for to do the work for them. 298 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: They were prepared. But then they could find tune based 299 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: on audience reaction, and they really really loved this it 300 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: turned out, and on April thirteenth nine, Groucho Marks did 301 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: an interview with the Salt Lake Tribune and he said, quote, 302 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: we are kicking ourselves. We didn't think of this before. 303 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: The successful comedy depends almost entirely upon audience reaction. And 304 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: if anyone tells you, he can sit in Hollywood and 305 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: judge in advance how much Salt Lake or any other 306 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: city is going to laugh at any given gag. Don't hesitate, 307 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: put in a hurry call for the psychopathic ward. We 308 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: are expecting our greatest help from Salt Lake, for it 309 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: is our first stop, and we will get a definite 310 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: idea of the script's value. So he really spoke very 311 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: highly and very openly about how instrumental their time in 312 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: Salt Lake was for making that script. Would it ended 313 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: up being. He didn't mention anything about the prostitutes here though, 314 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: well you know, we we don't know, no, no, we don't. 315 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: He may have also loved the prostitutes, but he didn't 316 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: say it in any interviews that we know. So after 317 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: they after they were done in Salt Lake City, they 318 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: they packed up and they took it to three other cities. 319 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: I think Seattle was the next stop. I forgot to 320 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: write down the other cities, so that's my bad. Um. 321 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: And then and then they ended up filming the movie. 322 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: The movie came out like later at the end of 323 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: that year. Um, that's how quickly they worked in Hollywood. 324 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: Then it was like here, you're in April. For the 325 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: next month, you're work shopping this uh screenplay, and then 326 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 1: come right back we're shooting it, and then it's out 327 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: the door before the end of the year. And uh, 328 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: A Night at the Opera became a smash hit of 329 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: them and it's regarded, as you know, also one of 330 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: their best movies of all time, and that brought them 331 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: back into into the public's paying graces. And the Utah 332 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: Theater formerly the Orpheum where they did these performances, is 333 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: actually a current priority for Salt Lake Cities Redevelopment Agency. 334 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: So hopefully this amazing and historically important theater, uh, we'll 335 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: kind of get another take it like the shine that 336 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: it went had and uh kind of re emergence of 337 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: its former glory. Um. There's there's some hopefully in the 338 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: show notes you'll be able to to put in we 339 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: found like the actual like newspaper articles from the day 340 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: and and they've got these giant ads for the show 341 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: and it's it's just like any other movie poster from 342 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: the Marx Brothers things. But uh, my favorite part of 343 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: it is like even the headlines or gags like the 344 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: headline and the top right of this is uh grout 345 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: show marks demands room far from Harpo, like they're coming 346 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: to town and Joe king around in in just the 347 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: most funny ways, even with just the press, Like everything 348 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: was a joke with these guys. That's why I love them. Uh. 349 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: And next, the next sort of pivotal person we're going 350 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: to talk about in film history, someone I super love 351 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: Edgar Rice Burrows. So. Edgar Rice Burrows born in seventy 352 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: five in Chicago. He was and is still one of 353 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: the most popular and prolific writers in the United States, 354 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: but in the nineteen hundreds he was massive. He was 355 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: hugely popular. He created both Tarzan uh and the Civil 356 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: War veteran turned hero story uh John Carter from Mars 357 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: and all those uh and For many years before he 358 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: became well known as a novelist, though, he spent his 359 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: time traveling around the country and doing some kind of 360 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: wacky jobs, some of which he did right here. Um. So. 361 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: In nineteen o three he left Chicago to move west, 362 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: first to Idaho than Oregon, to join his brothers in 363 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: the business of dredge and gold, and that didn't pan 364 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: out very well. Um. That was completely not intentional. You're 365 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: hurting me, Brian. I told you you'd regret that. I 366 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: want to keep adoring you, but you're making it. So 367 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: he moved here with his wife because his brother secured 368 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: him work as a railroad policeman. Um. And so he 369 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: worked in the Gateway area working to roust hoboes and 370 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: drunks and keep them off the freight cars, which was 371 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: a big problem back in those days. UM. Maybe it 372 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: still is in the Gateway area. I'm from Atlanta. Your 373 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: your rail cars seem beautiful and luxurious to me. I'm like, 374 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: the seats have covers. That must mean they don't have 375 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: a lot of vomters or peers like this is. I 376 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: was pretty excited. I'm not gonna lie. I felt like 377 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: the lap of luxury. Uh. If you've ever flown over 378 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: your fair city in the area around it. It is 379 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: probably no surprise that the landscapes of Utah One served 380 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: as the shooting locations for John Carter, the movie, which 381 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: I think is much maligned. Uh. And it's very likely 382 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: that these same landscapes were really a huge inspiration to 383 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Edgar Rice Burrows, because if you look at them from above, 384 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: particularly like it looks like a foreign planet. It looks 385 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: completely alien and beautiful in a way that's sometimes hard 386 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: to even process. Like there's so much contrast as you 387 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: look down, especially like from the snow in the very 388 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: dark mountains, that it does sort of look like a 389 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: film set. So no surprise. Well and it's um, I mean, 390 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,719 Speaker 1: we were, we were prepping for this in your hotel room. 391 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: And like looking at the view right and the salt 392 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: flats in a time where there weren't a whole lot 393 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: of buildings in the way of that view. Um, I mean, 394 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: there's a reason the salt flats are used for just 395 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: about everything. And he was on the west side of town, 396 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: and his view was largely you know, factories, trains and that, 397 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: um and and so living in Salt Lake City, though 398 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: he was not a fan of um so he he, 399 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: he explains in his own words, I think so, he says. 400 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: We were certainly poverty stricken there, but pride kept us 401 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: from asking for help. Neither of us knew much about 402 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: anything that was practical, but we had to do everything ourselves, 403 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: including the family wash. Not wishing to see Mrs Burrows 404 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: do work of that sort, I volunteered to do it. Myself. 405 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: During those months, I have sold my own shoes and 406 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: did numerous odd jobs. Then a brilliant idea overtook us. 407 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: We had our household furniture with us, and we held 408 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: an auction, which was a howling success. People paid real 409 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: money for the junk, and we went back to Chicago 410 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: first class. I sort of love this because I love that, 411 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: at a time when we always think about, of course 412 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: women did all of the housework, that he had this 413 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: sort of noble thing where he held his wife in 414 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: such high esteem that he could not bear to watch 415 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: her do menial labor. Like, there's something very endearing about that. 416 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 1: Don't punch your husband's I bet he's a delight. I mean, 417 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: you guys look adorable sitting here, smiling and holding hands. 418 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm on board. Uh yeah, there is something very very 419 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: charming and unusual about that. I don't think you would 420 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: get many quotes of that nature from men living in 421 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: the nineteen teens that no, no, my, oh, my poor wife, 422 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: she shouldn't do that. It just doesn't become her. I 423 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: will do all the work. So a lot of the 424 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: way this this kind of comes into film history. Aside 425 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: from the fact that, um, he probably got a lot 426 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: of inspiration from John Carter here, uh, and then wrote 427 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: about it and they filmed the movie in the area. 428 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: Um is the fact that these were primary, the primary 429 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: inspiration or one of the primary inspirations for so many 430 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: movies through the years. Um. The John Carter books came 431 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: out over a hundred years ago. Are they started over 432 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: a hundred years ago, and they sort of influenced everything 433 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: that serialized science fiction could be over the years. So 434 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: when John Carter came out and people said, no, this 435 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: is derivative, we've seen all this before, it's because they, 436 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: like everyone else, stole it from John Carter in the 437 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: first place. And it was one of the first places 438 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: George Lucas went to um when he couldn't get the 439 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: rights to Flash Gordon, which was itself a knockoff of 440 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: John Carter. When he couldn't get the rights to Flash Cordon, 441 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: George Lucas went and read all the John Carter books, 442 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: the Princess of Mars books, and that was one of 443 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: the building blocks he used for Star Wars. Yeah, part 444 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: of that sort of wonderful serialized nature comes not from 445 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: the not just from the fact that it's a series 446 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: of books that actually started being printed in magazines, which 447 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: was pretty common you know at the time for a 448 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: long time. I mean, even you know, up into Treaman 449 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Capote's early career, a lot of writers were releasing their 450 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: books as stories that were appearing in regular magazine. So 451 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: it kind of already has that serialized nature, which is 452 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: something so many filmmakers kind of fell in love with 453 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: and borrowed, and that you know, played into television when 454 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: they were doing serialized uh Saturday matinees, etcetera. So I mean, 455 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: I really can't. I don't think we can overstate sort 456 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: of how important it was. No, No, I think I 457 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: think I think it's I think people all can understate it, 458 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: but we're not doing that here, right. Uh yeah, I 459 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: mean I do, Like you said, people complain so much 460 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: about John Carter having no original ideas and it kind 461 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: of suffers from Diehard syndrome, or if you go and 462 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: watch die Hard now and it feels very like I've 463 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 1: seen all of this, but die Hard kind of set 464 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,959 Speaker 1: that tone for all action movies going forward. So it's 465 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: kind of one of those things where history bites itself 466 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: in the butt because the thing that came first just 467 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: by virtue of not having gotten as much sort of airtime, 468 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: and marketing ends up getting a little bit damaged by 469 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: it because when people finally find it, they don't see 470 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: it for the gym that it is all the time. UM. 471 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting that so many of these 472 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: like classic movies or stories had some touchstone here to 473 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, which which I don't think people associate 474 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: stories like that with this place. Coming up, we're going 475 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: to get into more modern filmmaking that's taken place in 476 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: Salt Lake. But first we're gonna pause for another word 477 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: from one of our fab fond ear alright, so we're 478 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: gonna jump right back in uh and coming up, you 479 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,719 Speaker 1: get to hear me use the word crevass I think 480 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: in the wrong way when we're talking about the film 481 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: A hundred and twenty seven hours. So sorry for any 482 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: of you uh people that will not enjoy my geography wrongitude. 483 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: There's That's another thing about live shows is we're speaking 484 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: live with no editing. People hear essay things that are 485 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: flogged in one way or another. In more recent years, 486 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: you guys have hosted a number of pretty interesting things, 487 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: some of which have gotten Oscar nods, including a hundred 488 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty seven hours, which I will confess I haven't seen 489 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: because I don't think I can sit through it. Um. 490 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: But the old Granite Furniture building in sugar House was 491 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: the sound stage for a lot of the work that 492 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: Danny Boyle was doing here with James Franco. And so 493 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: if you don't know, just in case you don't understand 494 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: why I don't think I can get through it, this 495 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: is the story where James Franco plays a hiker named 496 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Ralston who gets caught in a cravath Am I right, 497 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: and he ends up having to cut off his own 498 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: arm to escape. I mean sugar House brought that to 499 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 1: the world of cinema. Uh So that's why I can't 500 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: sit through that one. One day I will just haven't 501 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: been ready yet. Do you want to talk about the 502 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: sand Lot? Yeah? Sure, another one that I think that 503 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: we kind of hold here locally. Is really important to 504 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: the film industries of the sand Lot. Um, it's probably 505 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: one of the most favorite and time tested films to 506 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: have shot in Salt Lake City. UM. It was shot 507 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: and Salt Lake City at that time was probably just 508 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: the easiest place in America to convert into that Americana 509 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: Old School Field of the nineteen sixties. Um. They shot 510 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: from one end of the city to the other. UM. 511 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: The the sand lot itself is located in the Rose 512 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: Park neighborhood. They shut a lot of things at Liberty Park, 513 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: which has a really interesting, fascinating history that involves the 514 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: assassination of President Garfield. Um. You know there's there's all 515 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: kinds of weird history around here. We know how you 516 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: love your Garfield assassination. I do, I do. It's such 517 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: a funny story. It's it's a laugh riot, those assassinations. Uh. 518 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: Another film that shot here that I will I will 519 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: confess I'm not a fan. I love. I love a 520 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 1: lot dumb and dumber. It's just not my jam. Uh. 521 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: No shade to anybody that loves it. Like the heart 522 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: wants what it wants. It just it is in my 523 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: flavor of comedy. But it was directed by the Fairly Brothers, 524 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: and it is a fairly iconic film. I mean, everybody 525 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: knows what this film is, and it does have some 526 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: spectacularly talented people in it, just doing things that don't 527 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: work for me. Uh. And they shot a lot in 528 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: the Salt Lake City Airport, although that was before it 529 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: went through a pretty big renovation, so they're doing that now. Yeah. 530 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: If you if you look at it and then you 531 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: look at the airport, now you it won't really jibe. 532 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: You won't be like, oh, I know exactly where that is. 533 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Harry and Lloyd's apartment building was filmed downtown, so you 534 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: would know this. I don't know. I only know the address, 535 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know it. You know, offhand, it won't 536 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: click for me, but it's it about two South and 537 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: third East, so just a few blocks from here. Allegedly 538 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: i'd have a parade and walk over there. Uh. And 539 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: the scene where they went to the snow Owl benefit 540 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: was filmed in two different locations, across the street from 541 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: one another and about a block from here. So that's 542 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: the Devereaux Mansion which served as an exterior for shooting, 543 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: and the inside of the Union Pacific Depot is what 544 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: they used for the interiors for that benefit. Um. I 545 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: think one of the funniest contrasts is East and West 546 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: High School have both been used for drastically different movies. 547 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: So West High West High School was the site of 548 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: they shot a lot of SLC punk there. I really 549 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: love that movie and the East High was where they 550 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: shot the high school musical movies, which kind of plays 551 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: into that East Side West Side stereotype. Well, and I 552 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: think we've stumbled across the most high, hilarious Salt Lake 553 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,959 Speaker 1: City double feature of all time. I can't imagine they 554 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: would draw the same audience, but it would be funny 555 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: to watch each audience the other film, like we're all 556 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: in this to get oh, whoa, this is this punk film? 557 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Is it for me? Um? There's been a lot of 558 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: movies shot here. The Way of the Gun What which 559 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: was Christopher mcquarie starring Beneasielta Toron Ryan Philippie. They shot 560 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: around the streets here at night a lot because that 561 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: movie was gritty and at night. Um. Much of the 562 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: TV mini series adaptation of Stephen King's The Stand was 563 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: shot here, and so there's still I tried to get 564 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: a list of some of the locations, but I realized 565 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: that you can probably look that up on your own. 566 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: If you're interested. There you go, Uh, you could start 567 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: you could start this as a business, your own tour 568 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: of filming locations. And always did not interested or one 569 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: of our enterprising listeners, because that's that's no small undertaking 570 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: so that's kind of how important Salt Lake really is 571 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: to the film and entertainment industry. So if anybody says 572 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: it's not, you tell them yes. So one more time, 573 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: I want to thank Brian for stepping in serving as 574 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: Holly's extremely excellent co host when I could not be there. 575 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: That was extremely appreciated. I'm also kind of sorry I 576 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: can be there in person just to hear it, but 577 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: now it's preserved forever. And I really also want to 578 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: thank the fabulous audience member who came up to me 579 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: after the show who worked on A hundred and twenty 580 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: seven hours as a reptile wrangler, and he told me 581 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: that the movie was totally safe to watch. And I 582 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: feel bad because I did not get his name, but 583 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: he showed me all kinds of fabulous snake photos and 584 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: pictures from the set and it was awesome and I 585 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: really really really loved it. So thank you, thank you, 586 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: And if you want to hear more from Brian, you 587 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: can find him all over the place. The book that 588 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: we featured in our live show last October as eight 589 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: Children's Illustrated History of Presidential Assassination. His newest book, The Aeronaut, 590 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: is an alternate history fiction spy thriller set in World 591 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: War One, and you can also find him at Brian 592 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: Young fiction dot com that is Brian with a Y, 593 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: or on Twitter at swank Motron. He's also been writing 594 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: for our parent company's project How Stuff Works Now for 595 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: a while, doing some ridiculous history pieces that we share 596 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: on our Facebook and our Twitter from time to time. Yeah, 597 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: he's been doing an excellent job on those. And I 598 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: also wanted to send a huge, huge thanks to Salt 599 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Lake Comic Con Fanics for having me out to the show. 600 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: They made me feel incredibly welcomed. I really loved every 601 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: single staff member I spoke with. They were all incredibly 602 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: sweet and just really gracious and kind. And I absolutely 603 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: fell in love with Salt Lake City. I think it's 604 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: mentioned in the episode. I had never been there before 605 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: and it was just amazing. I loved it so much. 606 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: So thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. 607 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I cannot tell you enough how much I enjoyed myself. 608 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: Do you also have some listener mail? I do. I 609 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: was out for a few days. I was I was working, 610 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: but I was teleworking for a couple of days in 611 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: a row, and when I came into my desk this morning. 612 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: There was a massive pile of parcels full of amazing things, 613 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: and one of them we will talk about it is 614 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: from our listener, Julie, and she included a letter with it, 615 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: and she said, dear Tracy and Holly, please accept these 616 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: customized picture frames as a thank you gift for the 617 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: many hours of enjoyment you have given me. I know 618 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: you're busy, so I'll just provide a few comments via 619 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: a bulleted list. She said. First, I can echo the 620 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: fan who said when she went to Europe she knew 621 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff because of stuff you missed in 622 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: history class. My daughter took me to London, Paris in 623 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: Bath last summer as a thank you for her expensive 624 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: college education, and I was well equipped because of your podcast. 625 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: I saw the Herschel Home and Bath and I knew 626 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: all about them. I saw dresses by Worth and Madame Vienna, 627 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: and chapter Elli's famous jacket with the butterfly buttons. In 628 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: the muse des out Decoatif. I saw strange, a strange 629 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: building with a windmill and said, holy yeah, that's the 630 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: Mulin Rouge, and I knew about it from the joseph 631 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: Ule episode. Etcetera, etcetera. She was outraged when Tracy said 632 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: she would likely get hate mail, and she decided to 633 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: have Lindy Hop at her wedding, and it made Julie 634 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: so angry that she had to turn off the podcast 635 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: and sit quietly for several minutes to simmer down. The 636 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: wedding has happened. Now we did not slash, are not 637 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: doing Lyndy Hop, but we are having some swing dancing. 638 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Whoa mostly boiled down to Patrick not having time to 639 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: learn how to Lindy Hop from scratch. Yeah, take some efforts. Uh. 640 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: Julia goes on to say, I recently retired and I 641 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: moved to the uh key One Peninsula in the Upper Peninsula, Michigan. 642 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: I actually know that area a little bit. Some of 643 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: my family lives there. Uh, this area is interesting. It 644 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: might be worth a podcast. And she talks a little 645 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 1: bit about the history, So I'm gonna keep that quiet 646 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: in case we do one of those, and then she says, 647 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm a cautionary tale of what happens when a person 648 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: spends most of their life with no creative outlet. A 649 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: few years ago, I invented a few friends to a 650 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: craft tea. We're In addition to cucumber sandwiches, I also 651 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: set out materials for deca podge, pen work, mosaic's, mosaics, etcetera. 652 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: For us to play with. Well, I got hooked after that. 653 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,800 Speaker 1: All I wanted to do was wake make what my 654 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: kids call mock mosaics, which is a misnower because they 655 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: really are mosaics, but I use paper instead of glass 656 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: or ceramic tiles. I've made customized frames, jewelry, Christmas ornaments, etcetera. 657 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: For most of my family, but I am compelled to 658 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: make more. Hence these frames. Thank you so much, Julie, 659 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: because those frames are gorgeous. I literally got in, opened 660 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 1: the package, took a picture, and sent Tracy the photo 661 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: on her phone so she could see it right away. 662 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: It's so pretty, ums extremely pretty, and we'll post it 663 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: on social But also if you wanted to check out 664 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: more of Julie's design, she has an Etsy store at 665 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 1: Jay Carson Designs dot etsy dot com. They are absolutely beautiful. Um, 666 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: I mean I'm really blown away. Like I've seen lots 667 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: of decapodge and mosaic work over the years, but she 668 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: really does some just absolutely beautiful. It has like an 669 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: old world feel in some cases. There's one picture frames 670 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: she had on her shop that I saw that medieval 671 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: cats and I'm just in love with it. So she 672 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: does great work, and she was so sweet to send 673 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: us those frames. Mine has Queen Victoria in it. Tracy's 674 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: has a lovely picture of her and her beloved. It's 675 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: absolutely the coolest. So thank you. I'm always so honored 676 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: anytime someone takes time out of their life to make 677 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: us a thing, it's a huge honor to me. So Uh. 678 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: If you would like to email us, you can do 679 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: so at History Podcast at how stuff works dot com. 680 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: We're on Facebook dot com slash mist in history, on 681 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: Twitter at Miston History, at pinterest dot com, slash mist 682 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: in History at Miston History dot tuebler dot com, and 683 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: on Instagram at mist in History. If you want to 684 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: research a little bit related to what we talked about 685 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,439 Speaker 1: in today's episode, you can go to our parents site, 686 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: how stuff Works. Type in the words filmmaking in the 687 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: search bar, and you will get an assortment of articles, 688 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: including one called how film festivals work and another about 689 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: how film restoration works. Uh. If you would like to 690 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: hang out with Tracy and me, you can do that 691 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: at Miston history dot com, which is our site, and 692 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: you can look at our backlog of every episode that's 693 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: ever happened long before Tracy and I were on the podcast, 694 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: as well as show No It's for any of the 695 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: episodes that Tracy and I have worked on, as well 696 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: as occasional blog posts. 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