1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 3: We just got done talking about tacos, which is, you know, 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: fairly mid brow. Let me hit you with the most 6 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: erudite high brow thing I've seen in a long time. 7 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know what it means. 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: This is from our friend Tim Sander, for who Joe 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 3: had a fabulous hour about America and everything about that 10 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: leading up to fourth of July. 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 2: You should find that in the podcast. 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 3: But anyway, June twenty seventh, I believe our three our 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 3: friend Tim Sandfer tweeted this out. Gorvadal was right. That's 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: a good start for an erudite tweet. Gorvadal was right. 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: The three saddest words in the English language are joysh 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 3: Carol Oates. You're a certain sort of person that like, wow, 17 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 3: bam zoom. 18 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: You really stuck at the well. 19 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Wow, I just got done watching a couple of guys 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: fight on a golf course. So Joyce, Carol Oates say, okay, 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:30,279 Speaker 1: oh boy. So the communist young man who is running 22 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: for the mayoralty ship of New York City Old Mamdani. 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: There he got in some trouble allegedly for claiming to 24 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: be African American and applying to a college. He's from Africa. 25 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: He's actually of Indian descent, but he claimed to be 26 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: African American because he knew that would help him in 27 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Modern Woke College. And The New York Times wrote about 28 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: it and then suffered an enormous backlash because, as Jim 29 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: Garritty of The National Review put it quite brilliantly, you 30 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: can do that. You can lie about all the things 31 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: progressives claim to hold sacred or exploit them as long 32 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: as you are a progressive and you have power, and 33 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: they won't say a thing, witness Elizabeth Warren or whomeover. 34 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 2: If you are a conservative, God help you. But that 35 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: is the rule. 36 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: And so the conservative, I'm sorry, Progressive America was shocked 37 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: that The New York Times even wrote about it, but 38 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Garretty mentioned Neil Gorsitch's concurrence in the big Harvard Dei 39 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: case of a couple of years ago, and I went 40 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: digging for it and found it and have spent a 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: fair amount of time and effort editing it. It is, 42 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 1: as I said earlier, perhaps the most brilliant takedown of 43 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: the whole DEI thing I've ever come across, and I'm 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: going to read a pretty good chunk of it to 45 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: you here. The first part I will tell you is 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: the intellectual making of the argument and the sighting of law, 47 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: most of which I've edited out. But then he gets 48 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: into the particulars of how it works, and that's when 49 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: it becomes unintentionally hilarious and or is unmasked as being 50 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: incredibly stupid. So again, this is going to be a 51 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: little more reading than we generally do, but I think 52 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: you'll enjoy it. So this is Gorsch with whom Justice 53 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Thomas joins. For many students, an acceptance letter from Harvard 54 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: to University of North Carolina is a ticket to a 55 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: brighter future. Tens of thousands of applicants compete for a 56 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: small number of coveted spots. For some time, both universities 57 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: have decided which applicants to admit or reject, based in 58 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: part on race. Today, the Court holds that the equal 59 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment does not tolerate this practice. 60 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Few pieces of federal legislation rank insignificance with the civil 61 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: rights Act of nineteen sixty four. Title six of the 62 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: law contains terms as powerful as they are easy to understand. 63 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: No person in the United States shall, on the ground 64 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: of race, color, or national origin, be excluded from participation in, 65 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination 66 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: under any program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. The 67 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: message for these cases is unmistakable, and the trial records 68 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: reveal that both schools routinely discriminate on the basis of 69 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: race when choosing new students. Exactly what the law forbids. 70 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 3: Man, before you go any further, how in the hell 71 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: have we gone sixty years. 72 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: Doing this? I mean, because it is so clear cut. 73 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the bullying of their progressive left, I think, 74 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, people like you and me. We've been yelling 75 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: about this all the while, but yeah, people got cowed 76 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: into thinking. No, the way to fix racism is racism anyway. 77 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: When a party seeks relief under a statute, dar task 78 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: is to apply the laws terms as a reasonable reader 79 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: who would have understood them at the time Congress enacted them. 80 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: After all, only the words on the page constitute the 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: law opted by Congress and approved by the President. 82 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: That's a quote from another case. The key phrases in. 83 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: Title six at issue here are subjected to discrimination and 84 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: on the ground of begin with, the first, to discriminate 85 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: against a person meant in nineteen sixty four what it 86 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: means today to treat an individual worse than others who 87 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: are similarly situated. And he looks to a dictionary to 88 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: make a distinction, to make a difference in treatment of 89 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: favor of one is compared with others, to make a 90 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: difference in treatment or favor on a class or categorical basis. 91 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: The provision of Title six before us this Court has 92 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: held prohibits only intentional discrimination. From this, we can safely 93 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: say that Title six forbids a recipient of federal funds 94 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: from intentionally treating one person worse than another similarly situated 95 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: on the ground of race, color, or national origin. 96 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: If I were a justice, I would weigh in on. 97 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: The uh concurrence with Obs Trey Obs obvs. 98 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Period Right, Obs versus Othehelser problem nineteen sixty four. 99 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: Without question. 100 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: Congress in nineteen sixty four could have taken the law 101 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: in various directions, but to safeguard the civil rights of 102 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: all Americans, Congress chose a simple and profound rule, one 103 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: holding that a recipient of federal funds may never discriminate 104 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: based on race, color, or national origin. 105 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 2: Period. 106 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Again, this ought to be engraved in a monument somewhere. 107 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: The crazy part coming up soon start with how Harvard 108 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and unc use race. Like many colleges in universities, these 109 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: schools invite interested. 110 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: Students to complete the common Application. 111 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: As part of that process, the trial records show applicants 112 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: are prompted to tick one or more boxes to explain 113 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: how you identify yourself. The available choices are American, Indian 114 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: or Alaska Native, Asian, Black, or African American, Native, Hawaiian 115 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: or other Pacific Islander, Hispanic or Latino or White. Applicants 116 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: can write in further details if they choose. Where do 117 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: these boxes come from? Gorsa tasks bureaucrats. A federal interagency 118 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: commission devised this scheme of classification in the nineteen seventies 119 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: to facilitate data collection. The commission acted without any input 120 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: from anthropologists, sociologists, ethnologists, or other experts. 121 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: That's really interesting. I had never heard of it. Yeah, 122 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: this is the part that I really really wanted to 123 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: get to. 124 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: But The first part was so eloquent and so clear, 125 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: just you know, I want everybody to be rock solid 126 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: in their confidence that no racism means no racism anyway. So, 127 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: but the bureaucrats who did this without input from you know, 128 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: all these scientists, recognizing the limitations of their work, federal 129 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: regulators cautioned that their classifications quote should not be interpreted 130 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: as being scientific or anthropological in nature, nor should they 131 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: be viewed as determinants of eligibility for participation in any 132 00:07:59,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: federal program. 133 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: They made it. 134 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: Clear, look, this is just data collection. We're just curious 135 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 1: about this. But then, in the way activists do, I'm sorry, 136 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm deporting from departing from gorst here. They took the 137 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: data and decided, hey, let's use this and change the 138 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: world anyway. 139 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: Back to Gorsicic. Wow. 140 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: Despite that warning, others eventually use this classification system for 141 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: that very purpose, to sort out winners and losers in 142 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: a process that, by the end of the century would 143 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 1: grant preferences. 144 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: In jobs and university admissions. 145 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: These classifications race rest on incoherent stereotypes. Take the Asian category, 146 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: it sweeps into one pile East Asians, Chinese, Korean, Japanese 147 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: and South Asians, Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi, even though together they 148 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: constitute sixty percent of the world's population. This agglomeration of 149 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: so many peoples paves over countless differences in language, culture, 150 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: historical experience. It does so even though few would suggest 151 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: that all such persons share quote similar backgrounds and similar 152 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: ideas and experiences. That's a quote from a different case. Consider, 153 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: as well, the development of a separate category for Native 154 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Hawaiian or other Pacific islander. It seems federal officials disaggregated 155 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: these groups from the Asian category only in the nineteen nineties, 156 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: and only in response to political lobbying these sites when 157 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: that happened, And even that category contains its curiosities. It appears, 158 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: for example, that Filipino Americans remain classified as Asians rather 159 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: than other Pacific islanders. I've seen the Philippines. A very 160 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: good friend is from the Philippines. They are Pacific islands. 161 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: It seems federal officials disaggregated oh blah blah blah blah, 162 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: buh Filipino Americans. The remaining classifications depend just as much 163 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: on irrational stereotypes the Hispanic category. 164 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 3: I knew the where house was going, because I I'd 165 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: been meaning to talk about this, having been down in 166 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 3: Florida with all the Cuban immigrants there, and how different 167 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: the Cuban culture is from what I'm used to, and 168 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 3: the hilarity that it's all thrown together as Hispanic. 169 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: And it's even more insane than that. Listen to this. 170 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: The Hispanic category covers those whose ancestral language is Spanish, Basque, 171 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: or Catalan, but it also covers individuals of Mayan, mixed 172 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: Tech or Zappotech descent, should not speak any of those languages, 173 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: and whose ancestry does not trace to the Iberian Peninsula, 174 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: but bears deep ties to the Americas. That would be 175 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: the native people of Central and South America. The white 176 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: category sweeps in anyone from Europe, Asia, west of India, 177 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: and North Africa. That includes those of Welsh, Norwegian, Greek, Italian, Moroccan, Lebanese, 178 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: Turkish or Iranian descent. It embraces an Iraqi or Ukrainian 179 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: refugee as much as a member of the British royal family. Meanwhile, 180 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: Black or African American covers everyone from a descendant of 181 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: enslaved persons who grow up in the poor rural South, 182 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: to a first generation child of wealthy Nigerian immigrants, to 183 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: a black identifying applicant with multi racial ancestry whose family 184 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: lives in a typical American suburb. If anything attempts to 185 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: divide us up, all up into a handful of groups, 186 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: have become only more incoherent with time. No doubt, American 187 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: families have become increasingly multicultural, a fact that has led 188 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: to unseemly disputes about whether someone is really a member 189 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: of certain racial or ethnic groups. 190 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 2: There are decisions. 191 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: Denying Hispanic status to someone of Italian Argentine descent, as 192 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: well as someone with one Mexican grandparent. 193 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: These are all court cases he's citing. Yet there are. 194 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Also decisions granting Hispanic status to a Sephardic jew whose 195 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: ancestors fled Spain centuries ago, Wow, and bestowing a sort 196 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: of Hispanic Seas status on a person with one Cuban grandparent. 197 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: I can check the box of Hispanic again. 198 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: This is completely incoherent. Given all of this, is that 199 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: any surprise that members of certain groups sometimes try to 200 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: conceal their race or ethnicity, or that a cottage industry 201 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: is sprung up to help college applicants do so, we 202 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: are told, for example, at one effect of lumping so 203 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: many people of so many disparate backgrounds into the Asian 204 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: category is that many colleges consider Asians to be quote 205 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: overrepresented in their emissions admission pools. 206 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 3: A terrible word that shouldn't even exist. Overrepresented, well said. 207 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: Paid advisors in turn tell high school students of Asian 208 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: ancestry to downplay their heritage to maximize their chance of admissions. 209 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: We will make them appear less Asian when they apply. 210 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: One promises, if you're given an option, don't attach a 211 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: photograph to your application. Another instructs it is difficult to 212 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: imagine those who receive this advice would find comfort in 213 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: a bald, mistaking assurance that race conscious admissions benefit the 214 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Asian American community, which Soda Mayor claimed in her descent, 215 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. 216 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 3: Hiding your ethnicity because you will be penalized for it, 217 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: and that's not considered racism. 218 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: Right exactly, And it is hard not to wonder whether 219 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: those left paying the steepest price are those least able 220 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: to afford it, children of families with no chance of 221 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: hiring the kind of consultants who know how to play 222 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: this game. 223 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's good Neil Gorsich if you need him. Wow. 224 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: I can't believe it took us this long to end this. 225 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: And of course, as we've been talking about, the universities 226 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 3: are finding a way around it. They're still doing it. 227 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all all the time, coast to coast. Yeah wow, 228 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: any comment on that text line? Four one KFTC Cat 229 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: in California was recently reunited with her family after she 230 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 3: went missing fifteen years ago as a kitten or hear 231 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 3: me out cats look like So the movie Superman's coming out, 232 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 3: a new Superman's coming out and getting a fair amount 233 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 3: of attention, and Joe tried to ruin it for us 234 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: earlier by explaining how the director has said a bunch 235 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: of woke things, and I'm sure he has as a 236 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 3: Hollywood crowd tends to do. Dean Kin, who was the 237 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: Superman of the nineties. It probably perfect for you, right, Katie. Yes, 238 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: he's probably a heart throb for you. 239 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, some devil. 240 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: Barry dean Kin, who is fifty eight years old now 241 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 3: played Superman in the nineties TV series Lewis and Clark. 242 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: He came out. 243 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: He's not happy with this, He said, how woke is 244 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: Hollywood going to make this character? How much is Disney 245 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: going to change their snow white? Why are they going 246 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: to change these characters to exist for these times? He's 247 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: unhappy with the new Superman, with the director having told 248 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 3: or the actor, and the actor and the director both 249 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: saying things that people are happy with. 250 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: Anyway, told the Sunday. 251 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: Times in London that Superman is the story of America, 252 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 3: an immigrant that came from other places and populated the country, 253 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 3: and the director added, but for me, it's mostly a 254 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 3: story that says basic human kindness as a value, and 255 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: it's something we have lost. Really do I need to 256 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: think about any of those things when I go see Superman? 257 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: Why are you lecturing us about immigration? Uh? 258 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 3: Cain said, I think bringing Superman into it. I think 259 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 3: this was a mistake by the actor playing Superman in 260 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 3: this movie to say it's an immigrant thing, and I 261 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: think it's going to hurt the numbers on the movie. 262 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: I was excited to feed the film. I'm excited to 263 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: see what it is. 264 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for it to be success, but I don't 265 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: like trying to tie this into immigration. 266 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: I would agree, But. 267 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: The more I think about it because I was wondering earlier. 268 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: I thought, how could you possibly You got a bunch 269 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: of money for the actor, this could make you a 270 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: household name or the director. You got a bunch of 271 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: money and reputation involved, why would you want to step 272 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 3: in it? But I think they probably think that immigration 273 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: being a hot story, and of course, because they hang 274 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: around people like them, they think the vast majority of 275 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 3: Americans don't like the way immigrants are being treated right now, 276 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: they think calling this an immigrant story is a good hook. 277 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 278 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: Well, and if you're bubbled, even if on one level 279 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: you recognize that half of America thinks differently than you do, 280 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: if you never run into those people, and here's a hint, 281 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: movie boy, you do all the time, you're just such 282 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: a bully. They're afraid to express their opinion. But you 283 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: start to think everybody exuious with this, and those who 284 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: don't are troglodites and monsters. And I don't care if 285 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: I offend them. 286 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 3: And the more I think about it, they felt like 287 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: they needed to have a hook that ties into something important. 288 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 3: Otherwise they'd be saying, yeah, we made another superhero movie. 289 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: We hope we aren't too tired of superhero movies because 290 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 3: people are tired of superhero movies, it would seem so 291 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 3: this probably started in the works back when Marvel was 292 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 3: still ruling the the box office, and it's not so 293 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 3: much anymore. 294 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: Armstrong and geddy. 295 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 4: The little boy in your Cincinnati thought he came up 296 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: with a life hack for the claw machine. 297 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: Turns out didn't work. 298 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 4: He tried climbing inside but got stuck, and he won 299 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 4: a free chance to get rescued by police and firefighters, 300 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: who eventually were able to pull the little guy out. 301 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: Kid got stuck in the claw machine. 302 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: The young man is a junior at Columbia. 303 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 3: I don't know how old the kid was, but my 304 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: son asked the other day, my thirteen year old ass, 305 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 3: He said, what do you call my generation? And I 306 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: don't actually know what do you call people that age? 307 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: Do you know what they are? No? 308 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: Okay, could you look into that, KDC if you can 309 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: figure that out. What's the generation after Generation Z? Is 310 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: that what we've been talking about lately? 311 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Gen Z? Gen ZI? 312 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, youngest generation is Generation Alpha? Okay A basically, so 313 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: we start over again, yes, okay, excellent, Yeah, although there's 314 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 3: so many thousand and six years old. 315 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 2: They might be you know generation you know, beta from. 316 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they probably have nothing in common with today's 317 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: six year old. 318 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: Right. 319 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: It was that like that whole don't write just twenty 320 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: twenty on your checks or you know, or twenty twelve, 321 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: or don't write, you know, the day to what's today's 322 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: date seven ten twenty five, right, twenty twenty five because 323 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: bank systems might think is from nineteen twenty five. 324 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: Because that happens a lot. Yes, that's happened all the time. Yeah. 325 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: Anyways, speaking of young people, I found this very interesting. 326 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,959 Speaker 1: I was considering trying to cram these two things together. 327 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: The incredible radicalization of young women around the world as 328 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: their male companions they don't have companions, but as the 329 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: males of their generation are swinging to the right. Not 330 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: not a lot, but some. And how weird and interesting 331 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: that is. But we'll do that another time, I want. 332 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go with this. It was a piece 333 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: written by Mark Penn and Andrew Stein, and they're both Democrats. 334 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: Penn you may recognize recognized his name. 335 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: He was a Polster and advisor to the Clintons in 336 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: the nineties and two thousands, and this other guy was 337 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: a New York City Council president for a number of 338 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: years in the eighties and nineties. But the title is 339 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: gen Z the useful Idiot Generation. Young people usually become 340 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: less radical with time. Are we seeing an exception? And 341 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: they go into describing, you know, hippie Vietnam War protesters 342 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 1: who got jobs, got married and had children. Exactly, wash 343 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: your damn dirty hippie feet. Now their band children see 344 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,479 Speaker 1: them tethered to Fox News. Today's young Americans are following 345 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: the first part of that pattern. Ask a group of 346 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: them to choose between capitalism and socialism and they'll split 347 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: right down the middle. And he goes into the nominating 348 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: horrifying Zoron Mundami, who says he wants to capture the 349 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: means of production. 350 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: I've heard that phrase. 351 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, Oh, I ought to get into 352 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: the PolitiFact thing. Someday PolitiFact rated is false, the idea 353 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: that Mundami's a communist. 354 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: And then when it came out. 355 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: That he said we need to seize the means of production, 356 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: which is straight out of the communist manifesto, they said 357 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: incomplete data anyway, But will the young people outgrow their radicalism? 358 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: And this is the part that really intrigued me. There's 359 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: reason to doubt it. Record numbers of gen Z are 360 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: pursuing higher education, with fifty three percent of those eighteen 361 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: to twenty four having completed at least some college. That's 362 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 1: a tr trubbling sign given how left wing ideology has 363 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: come to dominate higher education. And again, these are two 364 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: mainstream democrats writing colleges where many young people learn that 365 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 1: socialism means free stuff. They're indoctrinated to blame capitalism for racism, inequality, 366 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: and climate change. Unlike the older generations, they grew up 367 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: after the end of the Cold War and have no 368 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: memory of the atrocities committed by the Soviet Union, Maoist 369 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: China and other socialist regime regimes. 370 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 3: I have no memories is an interesting way to put it. 371 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: I didn't live through most of that stuff my memories 372 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: or because somebody taught them to me. 373 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an excellent point. 374 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: And he said, they say, maybe they'll see socialism and 375 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: action in New York. But here's the really intriguing part. Meanwhile, 376 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: the process of growing up is slowing down. They're talking 377 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: about what I mean, it's not automatic that a young, idealistic, 378 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: way left person becomes a conservative. It happens through processes, experience, 379 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: mugged virality exactly, the process of growing That's actually a 380 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: great phrase. The process of growing up is slowing down. 381 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: The median age of first marriage is thirty, almost five 382 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: years later than it was in nineteen eighty five, and 383 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: that means that young people settle down and take on 384 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: responsibilities later, if they ever do. Nearly half of gen 385 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: Z adults aren't are not in a committed romantic relationship. 386 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: They largely live communally, often work from home, and are 387 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: connected primarily through the four plus hours they spend each 388 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: day on their phones. Their primary sources of information are 389 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: TikTok and Facebook, whose algorithms lead them to material that 390 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: reinforces their preconceptions rather than challenges them. 391 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 3: Four hours a day on their phones, what would they 392 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: have been doing before, because I mean, that's the whole 393 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: opportunity cost thing. There are only so many hours. 394 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 2: In the day. 395 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: There would have been more television watching back in the day, 396 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,239 Speaker 3: but all four hours wouldn't have been taken up with that. 397 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: No, but lots and lots and lots of relating to 398 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: real human beings who don't feed you agreement based on 399 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: their algorithms in my experience, my friends, my girlfriends, my wife, 400 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,159 Speaker 1: my family, they all feel free to disagree with me 401 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: semi regularly in a way that Facebook and TikTok never will. 402 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: They will, With all due respect to your sister in 403 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: law who constantly posts garbage that you hate, those algorithms 404 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: again lead them to material that reinforces their preconceptions. 405 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: I think even much other than that, your real life. 406 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: Maybe that's not true anymore. Is about to say, your 407 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: real life you don't talk about politics nearly at all, 408 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 3: as opposed to being bombarded with it on your whatever 409 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 3: device you're looking at. 410 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think in general, because I actually do 411 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: agree with that. But in general, real life quote unquote 412 00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 1: is much more messy and much less catering to you 413 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: in a hundred different ways than virtual life is, which 414 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: tends to lead people toward less deeied, idealistic progressive I'm 415 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: going to. 416 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: Tell people I know, from now on, I want you 417 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: to I'm going to use an algorithm, and I want 418 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 3: you to feed me things I only want to hear. 419 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: Only say things I want to hear or I'm interested in. 420 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: They would make a squinty face and say, no, I'm 421 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: not doing that. And there's more another traditional source of ballast, 422 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: religion has been become lighter as well. More than one 423 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: third of gen Z reports zero religious affiliation. Roughly sixty 424 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: percent did not participate in religious services growing up. That 425 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: produces a lack of moral grounding. We've had a really 426 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: interesting couple of conversations about that. Let's not get off 427 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: on that. 428 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know if you could make a 429 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: blanket statement of lack of moral grounding because you didn't 430 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: participate in organize religion. 431 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 2: Right. 432 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: But their greater argument is the things, the inputs, the 433 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: influences in life that tended to make you more realistic 434 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: and therefore more conservative, are missing, including religion. Put this 435 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: all together, and it's little wonder that about half of 436 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty year olds twenty four year olds tell 437 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: pollsters that they support Hamas over Israel. Hammas specifically, not 438 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: the Palestinian people fing Hamas. By and large, these young 439 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: adults aren't hardcore idelogus. They're merely ignorant. About half of 440 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: young Hamas supporters say they don't want to wipe out Israel. 441 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: They prefer two state solution. Call them the useful idiot generation. 442 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Mouthing slogans and causes they don't understand and from which 443 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: they would recoil if they did again. 444 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: This was written by Democrats. 445 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's you know, the Queers for Palestine thing 446 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: is the perfect example of that. It's the useful idiot generation, 447 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: mouthing slogans and causes they don't understand and from which 448 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: they would. 449 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: Recoil if they did. Well. 450 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: A guy like Mark Penn, who worked for the claims 451 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: he realizes Democrats are never going to win another major 452 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: election and unless they get this under control. 453 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: So he's trying to. 454 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: Figure out why do were young people? Why are they 455 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: so crazy? That's what he's trying to figure out. Final 456 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 3: couple of sentences. The older generations are not blameless here. 457 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: We created the environment that produced this unmored generation. Socialism 458 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: and anti Semitism will continue to fester and grow if 459 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 3: we don't stand up and reform our universities, reinforce our 460 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: basic values, and balance our social media. 461 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 2: I agree completely. 462 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: I am sticking with the idea that reforming our education 463 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: systems or tearing them down and building substitutes, is the 464 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: most important issue for America for the next fifty years. 465 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: I saw where did I come across this somewhere on 466 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 3: social media anyway? It was somebody talking about the whole 467 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: dating world getting back to people, not coupling or whatever. 468 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: But it was one of your dating sites and they 469 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 3: had posted a picture of somebody who had at a 470 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: profile young woman or a profile included you know, the 471 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: things she's interested in, some pictures and it said and 472 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: if you're a Trump supporter, you can f all the 473 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 3: way off. And I mean, and the person said that 474 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: this is fairly common in the world of that online 475 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: dating anyway. 476 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: What is I mean? 477 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 3: Can you imagine that not only do do politics matter 478 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: enough to me in meeting someone that I have to 479 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: mention what side I'm on, I need to like as 480 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 3: harshly as you possibly can criticize the other side, Right, I. 481 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: Mean that's so crazy to me. 482 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just dating. And I mean you gotta be 483 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: old to get this. But can you imagine dating? And 484 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 3: what year would that have been? 485 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 2: Eighty eight? 486 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 3: And somebody says, and if you like Walter Mondale, you 487 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: can f all the way off. 488 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 2: Well I didn't say it sounds so nuts. Well, yeah, exactly, 489 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 2: that would be what I would think. 490 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: That is a crazy person, right, They are insanely into 491 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: this stuff. I don't want anything to do with them anyway, 492 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: I will feel free too, indeed, f off. But if 493 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: that's common, well then no wonder if people aren't getting 494 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: together who want to get involved with that, even if 495 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: you agreed with them. Yeah, yeah, I'm reminded of the whole. 496 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: And you know, and the last paragraph they kind of 497 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: touched on how, hey, we adults are not blameless. No, 498 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: are you effing kidding? We're to blame completely. The kids 499 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: aren't to blame. And I don't just mean us of 500 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: a certain ideology. I mean because we did permit this 501 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: to happen on our watch, partly because we had no 502 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: idea what was going on. The Marxists are very very 503 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: clever at covering their actual intent and what they're actually doing, 504 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: which is why you know, parents seeing what was going 505 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: on in their kids' classrooms during COVID was such an 506 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: enormous pivot point in the history of this because it 507 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: had gone so much farther than anybody had any idea. 508 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm reminded of the whole. You know, every 509 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: kids special year, special everybody gets a trophy, you know, 510 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: the graduation address at high school, praising you like you'd 511 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: all cured cancer and invented, you know, nuclear fusion and that. 512 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 2: Sort of thing. So these twenty year olds. 513 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: Think not only that the world needs to be saved 514 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: right now, but that they're the ones most qualified to 515 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 1: do it, which is with all due respect to how 516 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: stupid I was in so many ways at that age, 517 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: just because of the age, I never thought. 518 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 2: I am the savior of war the world. 519 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: Not within a million miles of that did I think that. 520 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: And yet you know, every cod dang girl at Columbia 521 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: thinks that. 522 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 3: Sincerely, Yeah, and to the point of violence. This is 523 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: a great high falutin conversation. But we've got drunks fighting 524 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 3: on a golf course. We need to get to We 525 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: will finish strong next stay here. Joe is the perfect 526 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: person to be involved as the go to announcer for 527 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: all of this. 528 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Jack, when you combine men, many many men, 529 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: and a great deal of alcohol, occasionally conflicts arise, even 530 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: in the pastoral setting of your local golf course. In fact, 531 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: golf fight videos are one of my favorite forms of 532 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: entertain I didn't know that was a thing. That's a genre. 533 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: Huh, Yeah, I mean it's not like it happens a lot. 534 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: I've probably witnessed one or two. 535 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: Angry confrontations that he could or did become violent in 536 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: my entire career being on golf courses since I was 537 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: like a little kid. 538 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 3: You've seen these videos, kiddie, Oh yeah, Joe, you have 539 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 3: to scour the internet there everywhere. 540 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I know it, I know it. 541 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: And they're so delicious because frequently they include a drunken idiots, 542 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: people who shouldn't be fighting anybody, or in this case, 543 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: a couple of drunk yahoos who got very very belligerent 544 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: and really really wanted to fight the group that they 545 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: were having a dispute with the group they were having 546 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: a dispute with wanted no violence whatsoever. But the aforementioned 547 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: yay who's insisted on it, not understanding that one of 548 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: the fellas in the group was indeed an NHL star 549 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: built like a brick stadium and was having none of 550 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: their nonsense. Not only that had fought many a fisticuff 551 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: in his days and didn't particularly care if he had 552 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: another one. Here's some of the audio. 553 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: You guys need to get off the golfoard. 554 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 5: You're not scaring anybody come on, man, I told you, 555 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 5: go God, come on, man, get them out here. 556 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: So that is a tiny little sample of the video, 557 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: which is posted at Katie's corner. If you're in the 558 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: mood for some lane entertainment, I will tell you that 559 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: this Jack, as I know you have poor violence, says 560 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: I do do uh? The NHL player, the former player 561 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: Nick Turnowski in uh. 562 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: In question. 563 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: He absolutely resists any violence for the longest time till 564 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: the guy comes at him, gives him three good licks 565 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: and says that's enough. Get away from the The guy 566 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: comes at him again. Oh here, First he hurls him 567 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: into a lake, but the guy just keeps coming at him. 568 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 2: So finally he puts him down. 569 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: It was not a I'm going to hospitalize this guy 570 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: or render him unconscious. It was he grabbed him by 571 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: the jersey slash golf shirt, gave him a few good licks, 572 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: then said go about your business. 573 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 2: Drunkie, but drunk he wanted more. Who watch Final Thoughts? 574 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: Who watch Final Thoughts? Go have some final thoughts? Hooray, 575 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 2: here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty. Let's get 576 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: a final thought from everybody on the crew. 577 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: Why not? 578 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: Michaelangelow will you lead us off. 579 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, this cold virus has been killing me and it 580 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 4: doesn't help that all morning Hanson has been putting leeches 581 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: on my back. 582 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: Loss of blood is starting to really make me right handed. 583 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, a little more blood. We gotta let 584 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: that bad blood out. You'll be fine, Katie Green esteemed Newswoman. 585 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: As a final thought, Katie. 586 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 3: Not only has that video at Katie's corner, but someone 587 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: has converted the moment where the guy is mid air 588 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: flying into the lake into an oil painting and. 589 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: It's oh the Internet for the wind jack a final thought. 590 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, Earlier we referenced a famous fight between Charles Barkley 591 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 3: and a dwarf that he threw through a window. Yes, 592 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 3: and Charles Barkley was asked if he regretted that, and 593 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 3: he said, I regret we were on the first floor, 594 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 3: which is one of the funniest things anybody's ever said. 595 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 3: You know what, I'll stick with the theme from my 596 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: final thought. My buddy Gordy, who is an elite hockey 597 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: player almost at AHL quality, but he has this bit 598 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: he does on the golf course if he disagrees with. 599 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: Somebody, said, that's it. We're going and then he starts 600 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: to take off his golf glove. 601 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 2: He pulls off the belt grow. 602 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: Then he says, give me a second, I gotta And 603 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: then you got a pingstake when you pull off one 604 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: finger in time. 605 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: Anybody who's ever worn a golf I'll be right with you. 606 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: I am gonna light you up. Excuse me, hang on this. 607 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: It is very. 608 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: Funny, Armstrong and Getdy wrapping of another grueling four hour workday. 609 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,799 Speaker 2: So many people think so little time. 610 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: Good Armstrong and Giddy dot com again you'll find that 611 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: fabulous entertaining video of drunken Ya who's under Katie's corner. 612 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: We got hotlinks, pickups, made swag. Oh the hoodies flying 613 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: off the shelves. 614 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, We will see tomorrow. God bless America. 615 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: Man, I'm strong and Getty. There are two ways to 616 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: look at this. Where shide are you all? This is 617 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: a national emergency. 618 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 4: Let me say Let me say one thing. 619 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,320 Speaker 2: The fruit of my loins a terrible phrase. 620 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: Anytime you mention your loins, I feel like I want 621 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:22,879 Speaker 3: to run from the room. 622 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: I have lovely loins. What are you talking anyway? Thank 623 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 2: you for your attention to this matter. Armstrong and Getty