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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kick Off live right here on

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Speaker 1: Giants dot com. Drawn by Jeff Eagles. I'm John Schmelke.

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Speaker 1: Over the course of the show, Giants lose their first

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Speaker 1: game of the season, a twenty to fifteen loss to

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Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. And Jeff we spoke last week and

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Speaker 1: preview this game, and I we both had it around

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Speaker 1: seventeen thirteen seventeen, so we were kind of in the

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Speaker 1: ballpark on where we thought this would land. Um, we'll

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Speaker 1: get into some details first, but to me, this was

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Speaker 1: a game where the Giants had ample opportunities to make

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Speaker 1: the plays necessary to win the ball game. And we'll

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Speaker 1: get to the specific reasons at a moment, but there

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Speaker 1: were a various number of plays and reasons that failed

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Speaker 1: for different reasons that the Giants came up short and

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Speaker 1: didn't get frankly enough points because that's why they lost.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're not gonna win many games scoring

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Speaker 1: fifteen points, right and that's why they came up short,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't last year. They only scaverage nineteen last year.

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Speaker 1: So going into this game, we knew that they needed

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Speaker 1: to score more than nineteen in my opinion, just even

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Speaker 1: though if you didn't know the score coming out of

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Speaker 1: it today. But I think I I was hoping that

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Speaker 1: they would score in the low twenties. We thought. Um,

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Speaker 1: but just like any game, there's always if you when

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Speaker 1: you break it down, there's always a chance you're look

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Speaker 1: at it and say, yeah, this this play could have

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Speaker 1: could have won your game. You could have done, this

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Speaker 1: could have done I think before everybody gets crazy and

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Speaker 1: starts going nuts on this offensive line, it certainly does

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Speaker 1: need a lot of work. We know that. I have

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Speaker 1: to you gotta kind of get an idea who they

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Speaker 1: played against yesterday. Okay, So, um, I still think that

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Speaker 1: this is a working progress. I said it before. This

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Speaker 1: team has got a long ways to go. This five

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Speaker 1: football together, um, and they're gonna get better. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: right hand side is a concern. Eric Flowers is definitely

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Speaker 1: a big concern. But you know, is there anybody else? John, No,

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Speaker 1: there's not. Um. So right now. That's who you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: And he's gonna have to play better and he knows that.

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Speaker 1: And look, the right side was the worst of the group,

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Speaker 1: and Flowers is the worst of the group. I don't

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Speaker 1: we saw. Coach Shermer spoke that. He said he was

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Speaker 1: just like everybody else. He had some good play, some

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Speaker 1: bad plays, and they'll try to work on it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We've learned from Coach Hermer he's not gonna, you know,

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Speaker 1: blow up his guys in the media. That's not how

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Speaker 1: get better. No one's gonna argue that. Um, he has

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Speaker 1: But here are a couple of things I want to

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Speaker 1: throw out there. One, he wasn't the only issue on

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. I went back and I watched every

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Speaker 1: play this morning. Will Hernandez had two or three blow

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Speaker 1: all five guys had their issues. Um, and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: the issue though, and I know we're gonna get calls

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Speaker 1: Go bring him and he's an improvement. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: the guys that are on the street are on the street.

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Speaker 1: But this pro personnel staff has access to every snap

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Speaker 1: Jeff I walked in last Tuesday after the Giants set

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Speaker 1: And again, I have no problem bringing guys into try

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Speaker 1: their job, is not mine. Well, I will tell you this, UM,

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Speaker 1: So there will be workouts tomorrow because there always is. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not sure what happened. There a couple of plays where

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Speaker 1: I thought the interior run defense, Jeff was actually pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You could have won the game. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna know until the league plays out what

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Speaker 1: was a big win and what was a big off,

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Speaker 1: until you start to see how these teams develop, and

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Speaker 1: and so you know that that's going to happen. I

431
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Speaker 1: think Jacksonville, you know, I think a lot of people

432
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Speaker 1: think they're going to be really competitive, at least on defense.

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Speaker 1: So I think there I think, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: there was a lot of positives. I just go back

435
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Speaker 1: to the beginning of the season where we talked about

436
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Speaker 1: or Sherman more importantly talked about the clean slate with

437
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Speaker 1: the players, and I think he just saw two things

438
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Speaker 1: yesterday that that went in two different directions, and one

439
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Speaker 1: was Eli apple right started with a clean slate, gave

440
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Speaker 1: McClean slate, and look at the type of production and

441
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Speaker 1: look at look at what he did yesterday. He had

442
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Speaker 1: a lot of best games on the field, played really well,

443
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Speaker 1: had a number of plays you know that he made,

444
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Speaker 1: and and I think you you know, I think he

445
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Speaker 1: walks away saying, hey, you know what, I'm in a

446
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: new spot. On the other side, I think the play

447
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 1: that gets everyone for Flowers. Two things about Flowers. One

448
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: was the tripping penalty first play of the offense. Right,

449
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 1: just just too many fans with him. It's it's not

450
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Speaker 1: just his production, it's it's what's viewed as being lazy.

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Speaker 1: It's here's the thing. But here's the thing. He didn't

452
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Speaker 1: commit the tripping penalty because he was lazy. He committed

453
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Speaker 1: the tripping penalty because he got beat so badly inside

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Speaker 1: that if he didn't trip the defender, he would have

455
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Speaker 1: murdered Eli Manning. That's why he tripped a guy, because

456
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Speaker 1: he got beat. I agree, but but but I but

457
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Speaker 1: at the same time, I think that that type of

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Speaker 1: penalty and that type of of you know play. And

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Speaker 1: then I think the other bigger thing that no one

460
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Speaker 1: really wants to talk about is the game's over. The

461
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Speaker 1: media descends upon the locker room, and four out of

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Speaker 1: the five starters show up to take it on the chops,

463
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Speaker 1: you know. And if I'm Nate Soldier walking in, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: biggest contracts signed, all that sort of stuff. He doesn't

465
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Speaker 1: want to walk in there and answer questions why I

466
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 1: didn't play so well? You know, Will Hernandez sat there,

467
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Speaker 1: second round draft pick, really cares. The way that Flowers

468
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: comes across to the fans is that he doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: Flowers did talk today. That's what drives fans creative. Did

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Speaker 1: fly I Flowers did answer some questions to the media today.

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Speaker 1: Just f y, I okay, good glad. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a bad sign when four to your guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're a five man Lyne, You've been doing everything all

474
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Speaker 1: off season and then one of you doesn't show up

475
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Speaker 1: at the time. That that to me is just and

476
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Speaker 1: and I understand I think you're you know, go ahead, No,

477
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I I understand your point. You gotta

478
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Speaker 1: stick around for the press, good and bad after a game,

479
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Speaker 1: no matter what you know. It to me if you

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Speaker 1: walk out of the locker room and you don't want

481
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Speaker 1: to talk to anybody, I mean, that's your prerogative, but

482
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Speaker 1: you you know you you should stay there and and

483
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Speaker 1: and face the face the media. But at the same time,

484
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Speaker 1: that's to me is minor. If you fix the stuff

485
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Speaker 1: on the field and you don't get quotes after the game,

486
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Speaker 1: all right, Cool, it's annoying, but you live with it,

487
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, I don't disagree. And again, guy,

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Speaker 1: I would just finish it up by by by saying this,

489
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Speaker 1: and again, I think there's a lot of things when

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Speaker 1: you come off of a first game loss, you're you're

491
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Speaker 1: obviously looking for things that you can build upon, and

492
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Speaker 1: but you're also looking for things that look really hard

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Speaker 1: to fix. And I think that's the that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: You guys hit on a bunch of other issues in

495
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Speaker 1: terms of some of the plays on defense, and you know,

496
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Speaker 1: Shepherd and Ingram and a couple of drop passes, those

497
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Speaker 1: things bother you, you know, and you look at them,

498
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Speaker 1: but you also see a number of those things on

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Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. I mean, the way Barkley played,

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Speaker 1: the way that the way that um, you know O'Dell played,

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Speaker 1: I mean you just look at it. You go, my gosh,

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Speaker 1: between the two of them. You know, there's such an

503
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Speaker 1: explosive opportunity there. Um. But but it's again, it's that

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Speaker 1: it's the right out of the line. John. You've said

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Speaker 1: it before, We've talked about it before, and I'll leave

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Speaker 1: you with this. It's just there's just not a lot

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Speaker 1: of old tackles around, and I think that's what you're

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00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the giants are given Flowers any extra path.

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Speaker 1: I think they're struggling with, you know, how to how

510
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Speaker 1: to replace somebody that that is not easy to you know,

511
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 1: it's not easy to go find another guy off the street.

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Speaker 1: So thank you the time, guys, and I'll catch you

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Speaker 1: again soon. Appreciate a body. Always good to hear from you,

514
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,640
Speaker 1: good calls always, and you know, here's here's the thing,

515
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: and yes, outfensive tackles these days don't grow on trees. Um.

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to to something we talked

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Speaker 1: about a lot in in the in the Spring day, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Two things. One, A lot of people have been calling

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Speaker 1: for two years, and their theme was just move Flowers

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Speaker 1: to the right side. He'll be fine. And what do

521
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: we always say, not so easy, It doesn't work that way. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's number one. Number two, and this is the larger point.

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Speaker 1: They were never going to be able to fix all

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Speaker 1: the problems on the offensive line in one off season.

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00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: They literally started from zero. No one came back except

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Speaker 1: for Flowers. So it's really all five new starters. Pretty

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00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 1: much right, So they you cannot It's very hard to

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Speaker 1: do that on one off season. So the line is

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Speaker 1: not gonna be perfect this year. I said, you got

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Speaker 1: to be patient with you hope it's going to be better.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the first week you wish and they Solder said

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Speaker 1: he was not happy with with the way the with

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Speaker 1: the way the line played when he spoke to the

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Speaker 1: media today. So he was very honest about it and

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Speaker 1: forth right. Um, so you hope it gets better. We'll see.

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Speaker 1: I think it'll be something we talked about for a

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Speaker 1: lot of the year because we know Beckham, we know Barkley,

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Speaker 1: we know Shepherd, we know ingram Eli. They'll be good

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Speaker 1: enough if they get the time necessary to do what

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Speaker 1: they do. Um, but they need the protection, they need

541
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Speaker 1: the room to run, the time to throw. And we'll

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Speaker 1: see if over the course of the season when they

543
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Speaker 1: play not the best line in football, which the Jaguars

544
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Speaker 1: pretty much have, whether or not, the guys can't deliver.

545
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Speaker 1: And you gotta get you gotta go back to work,

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Speaker 1: and um, you know part of like when you're in college,

547
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: you got you know, you gotta go to school, and

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00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, we get a living amount of time to

549
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 1: to to practice football. This is these guys living. So

550
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: they are in there in here today they're breaking down film.

551
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna get graded. Uh, their coaches will put the

552
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: game point excuse me, the game plan together today and

553
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow and they're back at Dallas week. So that's how

554
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: quickly it turns around. And it's how quickly you have

555
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: to have blinders on and go after the next opponent.

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Speaker 1: And the next opponent is Dallas, who's got a pretty

557
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: formidable defensive line that they're gonna be facing two. So, um,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good game coming up. It really is.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the lines at two, five, one three.

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Speaker 1: up next. Hi, rich Oh's but I guess he thought

564
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: my name is rich alright? Or what's going on? Pal?

565
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Speaker 1: Where do you go down today? And where h and

566
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 1: just and I just want to say, Jeff, I saw

567
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Speaker 1: your son. I'm playing against my team Sunday, um last

568
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: Sunday LSU and stuff. I assume that was just because

569
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Speaker 1: the last thing is Feagels and remember you talking about that, hey,

570
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: or And here's the thing, don't Jeff still has some

571
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: PTSD off of that game last week. Um, he's he's

572
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: struggling with it the way you guys basically hammered them.

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00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: So Jeff just just take it easy on him because

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00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: emotionally he really hasn't recovered quite yet. If you want,

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00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: if you want, if you want to pile on like

576
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: everybody else is piled on the punting position, go ahead too.

577
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: I'm used to that too by now, so go ahead. Yeah.

578
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,959
Speaker 1: But um, honestly, even though we lost and stuff, and

579
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I always didn't mess up and stuff,

580
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: but like, I felt like that this can give us

581
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 1: momentous for Sunday night football though, because both teams are

582
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: Hold and Wine and stuff like that, and it's a

583
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Speaker 1: division game. There you go, yeah, and then I and

584
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: then I don't feel like the Cowboys guys great a

585
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: depend like corners and line bag in the line like

586
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: like Jacklinville does. So I feel like we could probably

587
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: take advantage of that. So they basically you said they

588
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: were basically losing as the cam Dowton in the run

589
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 1: back because Carolina doesn't really have any big time are

590
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: receivers out there? Yeah, but you watched that game. Dallas

591
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: took it to to They dominated the interior of that

592
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: game yesterday. That do you line for the Cowboys? Yeah,

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00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: honestly to me, or and I think it's funny the

594
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: way the schedule is kind of lined up here. You're

595
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: probably getting two of the teams with two of the

596
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: lower quality passing games in the league in your first

597
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: two weeks, and it's only thing to get better from there. Um,

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00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Dallas can really at least well, but

599
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I have the game on tape. I'll watch it at

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00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: some point this week in preparation for next week. They

601
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: really could have moved both through the air. Jeff correct. Yeah, absolutely, yep.

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00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: I mean listen, I I don't know they mean you

603
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: could barely you can barely uh know who the receivers

604
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: are for the Jaguars, and and you certainly have no

605
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: idea who the receivers are for the Cowboys these days.

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00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin doesn't get you excited. No, no, and and

607
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: and that is a real guy by the way. Yeah, okay, well,

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00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean Cole Beasley, I know him, or and what

609
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: else he got for me. Um, yeah, I totally failure

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Speaker 1: and I was also the name. What do you think

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00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: of we we're playing much in life planets, kind of

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00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: playing man on the receivers and we bring we bring

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Speaker 1: a lot of people to the box stop zecon that well, well,

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Speaker 1: Frankly and Oran, thanks a lot for the call. That's

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00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: that's the scheme. That's what James Betcher wants to do.

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00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna play single high, He's gonna man up or

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00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: play cover through on the outside, and he's not gonna

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00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: let Zeke Elliott beat him. And the Giants corners will

619
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Speaker 1: be tasked with slowing down the likes of Alan Hearns

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00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: and Cole Beasley and Michael Gallop and uh Deonte Thompson

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Speaker 1: and Tavon Austin whatever just the Cowboys happen to throw

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Speaker 1: out there, and that's gonna be how the is gonna

623
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Speaker 1: try to win the game. I think it's a good strategy.

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00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: I think it has a really good chance of working.

625
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: But I think you're right on the money. Well, one

626
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: thing that the Giants are going to have to do,

627
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: and I know that Carl Banks had mentioned it on

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00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: the broadcast many many times, has set that edge because

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Speaker 1: you know, if you don't, Ezekie only will be running

630
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: down your throat and the Cowboys will run that outside zone.

631
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: They run that stretch play constantly, constantly, and it's it's

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00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: a good play for them, you know so. And listen,

633
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: they're their offensive line isn't what it used to be

634
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: two years ago. But Frederick's not there anymore about it,

635
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: and that's a that's a sad thing what's going on

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Speaker 1: with him. And you know, hopefully he can get better,

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00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean with all, even though he's a Cowboys. But

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00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: that's horrible. They're reading some of the stuff in the

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Speaker 1: he still has numbness and like his his hands and

640
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: arms and stuff like that. Marks And by the way

641
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: they quote it, that's catching it early. Yes, yes, imagine

642
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: how bad would have been if they didn't catch it. Yeah,

643
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: I mean I had listened to the radio. Mark, shut

644
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: up a chalets he had that, you know that, and

645
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: he was he was, he was. He missed a whole

646
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: year talking about it. It's like, just missed the whole

647
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: season because of it. By the way, now that the

648
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: game is over, do you want to try that one

649
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: right there? No? No, no, no, no, come on, give

650
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Speaker 1: it a shot. No, I'll go down here with the

651
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Speaker 1: pronunciation thing. Can you do it? Um, it's on this side.

652
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Speaker 1: Can you do it for me? Yeah? Here we go

653
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Speaker 1: defensive end in gaway in goay. That's actually it's pretty good.

654
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Speaker 1: My glasses on. That was pretty good. Inquay alright? Two

655
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Speaker 1: oh one died three died four or five one three.

656
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: They tried to set me up on the premium. Totally

657
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: tried to get it and it's not gonna work. That's

658
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Speaker 1: gold Dre in Atlanta Online one He's something next hire

659
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Speaker 1: Hey was going on, what are you doing? What going?

660
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: How are you good to hear from you? Ma? Man, Hey,

661
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to beat the offensive line, hey, that

662
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: it's too easy, you know. They beating themselves up so that.

663
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna beat up on tied end and I

664
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: want to receive it. I'm gonna do that. Okay. I think,

665
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I think, I think Ingram needs to get on that job.

666
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: He needs to run some laps and he needs to

667
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: get on that joke. You know, Dre real quick, honestly,

668
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: real real quick. The amazing thing is, and I watched

669
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: every training camp practice. The two caught everything. I mean,

670
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: honestly the dude caught everything in practice, So I don't

671
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: know if it's like nerves, a concentration thing or what.

672
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: But that dude didn't drop more than one pass from

673
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: March to August. So I'm not sure what the answer is.

674
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Because the thing is, it's not that he drops, it's

675
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: just it's just seems like the drops so egregious. It's

676
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: like these are the catch These are not even contacted catches.

677
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: I know you disagree. These are catches you should you should,

678
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: you know you should make. And the thing is, if

679
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: they're drive killers, and I think I understand what you're

680
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: saying about Jexon's though defense, But if we make these

681
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: catches like um, like especially to catch that ship or dump,

682
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, if he catches, if he catches that pass,

683
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, he has one move, you know. But the

684
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: thing is you have to look at it. What what

685
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,959
Speaker 1: stops a good defense fundamentals and catching the ball, you know,

686
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: and move with and moving the change. And we didn't.

687
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: We didn't do that. And I think even with you know,

688
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: the offensive line of deficiencies, do you have to look

689
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: at eli? I mean you can, oh, we should have

690
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: got somebody else, you should have got Josh Allen or Rosen,

691
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: But I don't think a rookie quarterback would have been

692
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: handled the situation that he was under the under the

693
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: rest and still um dropped dimes. Yeah, he missed some

694
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: passes for use. He was rushed. I think it flowers here.

695
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: Um that block. You don't have to worry about Eli

696
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: Um that pass getting tipped. He's been rushed on a

697
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: pass on on Um the post tour that the post

698
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: the one in the middle where going into Oh, um,

699
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: you mean the one at the end of the first half. Yeah,

700
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: we lost, We can let him go. I think his

701
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: phone died. He's talking about. Yeah, you know what though,

702
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: Um that pass he did have pressure on and he

703
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: even said in the law groom today, if he just

704
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: had one more tick to see exactly how or rather

705
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: what angle Odell was taking into the end zone, he

706
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: would have had a better idea of where to throw it.

707
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: But since he had to get rid of it so quickly,

708
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: he kind of just had to fling it up there

709
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: and hope that Odell could run under it. And they

710
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: were rushing. I think one more guy than the Giants

711
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: could block. But I still think there could have been

712
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: better communication up front in terms of picking up both

713
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: guys from the right side. Uh, he had moved Barkley

714
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: to his right pre snap because he read the blitz

715
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: coming and then Barkley kind of went left instead of

716
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: staying right to pick up one of those rushers. So, UM,

717
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what I'm I'm no expert on

718
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: protection scheme, so I can't tell you who was supposed

719
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: to go where. Um, there was a player where I

720
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: thought and Eli talked about it today, which was interesting. Um,

721
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: the play at the start of the third quarter, it

722
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: was a similar play they were I think it was

723
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: the drive where Rosas kicked the field goal where O'Dell

724
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: got behind the defense a little bit and Eli threw

725
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: it out of the end zone over his head a

726
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: little overthrown and he actually had a clean pocket on

727
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: that light. Eli talked about that today as well and

728
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: basically said that it's a route where they He kind

729
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: of said, based on where Odell was, he kind of

730
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: made contact with the safety a little bit. He thought

731
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: he put it in a good spot. Odell ran the

732
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: right route. But he said that's something they're gonna have

733
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: to get together and talk about to make sure that

734
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: they're exactly on the same page on on what to do.

735
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: He was very careful. O Sale did exactly what I'm

736
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: supposed to do. He thought he put the ball in

737
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: the spot where he was supposed to. But based on

738
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: contact with the defense with slow old Dan a little

739
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: bit and where the other guys were, that was something

740
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: they would have to get together on. It's one of

741
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: those things where week one you talk about it and and

742
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: then you hope that's gonna be fixed and ready to

743
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 1: go the rest of the year. And also a week

744
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: one the first time this team is played together the

745
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: whole game. So, I mean a lot of people have

746
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: the idea that this first four four games of the

747
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: regular season or an extension of your preseason games just because,

748
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: but I think it's true. I think it takes two

749
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: or three games to get everything, you know, mopped out

750
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: and get everybody used to playing against each other and playing,

751
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: you know, aside here there. It just takes a while.

752
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: Starts stars played about one full game worth of snaps

753
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 1: over a month before the regular seasons enough, and that

754
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: includes a two week period where none of them played

755
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: from the Jets game to this game today, which is

756
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: sixteen days where nobody played in the game, and you

757
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: know when they were in Detroit practicing, that's different. That's

758
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: not a game. Yes, live reps, but not a game.

759
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: Five one, three. Let's go to Scott in New Mexico.

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00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: He's up next. What's up? Good afternoon, guys. Are you

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00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: doing doing great? Scott? What's up? Uh? First, I had

762
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: one main query on the offensive life, but I think

763
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: you guys addressed it, so I'm not gonna be redundant

764
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 1: and no problem. I do have some questions about Pet's

765
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: play calling, and it's one specific play and maybe John,

766
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: having watched the game, maybe you can address it. Which

767
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: play on the fourth and two when Sequan jumped over

768
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line and fell a little short, which was

769
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: a pivotal point at the game. Do you know Shane Smith,

770
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: who's your you know blocker was in the game. And

771
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: also did they have a jumbo package set up because

772
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: it was a pivotal point, uh, turning point in the game,

773
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: and if not, wouldn't have been the prudent thing to

774
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: do on that particular play. I don't know if they

775
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 1: jumbo in or not. I'm and I'm not one of

776
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: these people like the Tino who whenever you're in short

777
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: yard as you feel like you have to go jumbo

778
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: and try to run it with all the big guys in.

779
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: I think there's value to spreading the field, spreading the defense,

780
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: getting smaller personnel in there, and then running against that

781
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: type of look. I think there is value to that.

782
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm not one of these guys where you say, oh,

783
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: it's starting one, you gotta go three tight ends, an

784
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: extra offensive lineman and a fullback, and burn try to

785
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: write it down their throat. That's not me. That's not

786
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: how I operate. Um. I would have to check on

787
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: the personnel group on that play. I can't look at

788
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: it now, unfortunately, but I think I can check receiver

789
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: and Jumbo was in there. Whatever. And by the way,

790
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: that's another deal, which which is why I thought, And

791
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: this is the this isn't how they did it, and

792
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: they didn't have to and I'm not saying they did

793
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: anything wrong, but this is why I thought Stewart would

794
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: be the short yardage back because Barkley likes to try

795
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: to go over the top. He's not a guy that's

796
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: gonna drop his shoulders and grind it out, you know

797
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: what I mean. So that's where I was coming from

798
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: when I made that point a couple of months ago. Okay, UM,

799
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: my only last point. I'm kind of ashamed of myself

800
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: for believing that the Giants south line was a little

801
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: bit better than I thought, but hopefully that will improve.

802
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: But the other point in regards to Pat's play coin,

803
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: um was the last actually the last play uh, and

804
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: that was the last punt return with fifty five seconds left.

805
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: Why wasn't O'Dell back there to receive the punt? And

806
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: in the presser after the game, I believe the same

807
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: question was asked by reporter and Pat said he didn't

808
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: think about it. And when the reporter queried him further

809
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: and asked why not, Pets just shrugged his shoulders. And

810
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: that's not the typical response I wanted from a Giant's

811
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: head coach. I believe I had coach should be aware

812
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: of all situations, even though it would have been all

813
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: order to come back. He was, He was, He was

814
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: a Scott real quick. He was asked that question again

815
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: today when he addressed the media, and he basically said that, um,

816
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: since they were running a punt block out there, um,

817
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: and you either run a punn return or you run

818
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 1: a punp block where you come after the kicker and

819
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: he and the assumption was on a punt block that normally,

820
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: and jeff you can attest to this. When the team

821
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: runs a pump block and the punk gets off, usually

822
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: what does the returner do? He calls for a fair

823
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: catch because you don't have gunners, You don't have anybody

824
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: holding up the gunners. Right. It just still happened on

825
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: that particular play that he had more room to run,

826
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: and he basically said, since it was probably going to

827
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: be a fair catch anyway, he didn't think it was

828
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: worth it putting Odell out there to catch it. I

829
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: get where you're coming from, Scott, and I understand what

830
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: your point is, and I think it's a fair one.

831
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: No argument, no argument from Jeffry on that. But that

832
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: was coach Shermer's explanation when he was asked about it today.

833
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: And by the way, just so you know, okay, so

834
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: the head coach doesn't call the returns on the punt that,

835
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: that's the special teams coordinator. So that's probably why he

836
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: did know what happened there because he was probably in

837
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm thinking I'm getting the football back with

838
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: X amount of seconds. I'm thinking about what my first

839
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: play on offense is going to be. But unfortunately it

840
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And I will tell you from a punting perspective,

841
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: and I said this earlier before we came on the air,

842
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: I would have had thirteen back there. I would stop.

843
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: Just just make sure you use different verbiage. What do

844
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,439
Speaker 1: you mean the verbiags before the show probably isn't good

845
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: for the internet. No, no, no, I won't Okay, yeah,

846
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: I see where you're going there. I would put thirteen

847
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: back there for number for two reasons. Number One, it

848
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: scares it, you know what out of me as a

849
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: punter knowing the thirteen is back there. That's the verbage

850
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: that John wanted me to not use. And the other

851
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: thing is that the guy that has the best hands

852
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: in the team, you want him in that situation, even

853
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: if you're rushing it and you're not gonna expect a return,

854
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: you want to give the ball back to the offense.

855
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: It didn't happen, so um, just so you know. And

856
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: by the way, and Scott, you make a good point

857
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: again the argument for me, um, but that also would

858
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: have been a very tall order. They would have gotten

859
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: the ball back. And I can tell you where it

860
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: would have been, but I got the play by playing

861
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: in front of me here. Uh. They would have gotten

862
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: the ball back on their own thirty five yard line

863
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: with about a minute forty eight to play with no

864
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: time outs, needing a touchdown against that defense. I'm sorry,

865
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, I take that back. I'm wrong. I was

866
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: looking when the Jaguars got the ball. I'm sorry. They

867
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: would have gotten the ball with forty five seconds to

868
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: go on their own twenty one yard line, needing a

869
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: touchdown to score. You never know, you got bar, you

870
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: got O'Dell. You never know what's going to happen. But

871
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: that would have been a very very very very very

872
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: very very tall I got it. Uh. The last point

873
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: is I just wanted to give kudos to the defensive

874
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: unit because despite everything, they only allowed thirteen points and

875
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: if they can continue to do that during the regular season,

876
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: Becauatonville obviously is a premier team that would bode will

877
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: for the future and still was not in but still

878
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: to keep Jackson Boll to thirteen points the demonstrates that

879
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: they're at least going in the right direction with the defense.

880
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Uh, thank you, guys. Jaguars only gained three

881
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: hundred and five yards. I can't argue with that. That's

882
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: a real nice job by them, So yeah, I agree.

883
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: I think the defense that all they could um obviously, Uh,

884
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 1: they gave a couple of those big plays early and

885
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: a couple of chunk plays Jeff, but nothing that was

886
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: that was a killer necessarily. Uh. They forced to turnover,

887
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: they got the interception, they could have had a second

888
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: one on the Nihilis Paulus. By the way, Jenkins might

889
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: not have come up with the pick, but I thought

890
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: he made a really aware play on that particular um

891
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: play action pass. Nils paul who was the intended target

892
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: on the plays a tight end, really tried to sell

893
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: the run block on the replay, he kind of turned

894
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: his back almost to the side and looked like he

895
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: was gonna fake block somebody, and then he took off

896
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: up the field and Jenkins did not bite, And I

897
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: thought it was a really nice play for him to

898
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: stay with him almost have a chance at a very

899
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 1: tough pick. He really had to reach out for the football.

900
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: But if the Jaguars score there, this game could have

901
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: gone out of reach very very quickly. And I like

902
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: the fact that he just came back and made a

903
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: play because he got beat for a thirty year are

904
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: the second play of the game, Um, that the offer

905
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: the Jaguars had the ball is a thirty yard pass,

906
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: and then the second play of the next Jaguars possession,

907
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: he got that pick exactly, so that that really goes

908
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: well in the same play too, by the way, rout

909
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: and back to the offense. You know, we can only

910
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: go on last year's statistics because it was the first

911
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: game of the year. They were six and overall offense

912
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: and fifth and scoring. So that is a nice job

913
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: by the defense to hold them the thirteen points on

914
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: the on the day. So when you look at that,

915
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: I will to five, one, three, Back to the phones

916
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: because Shawn and Marilyn gracing us with her royal presence.

917
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: Hello John from you. How's it going? Good? Good? Okay, good, okay?

918
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 1: Four quick things, um. Number one, to start with the defense, Um,

919
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: whose whose job is it to set the edge on

920
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 1: a three four? Usually the outside linebacker slash edge rusher,

921
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: So the guy you want to point your finger out

922
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 1: in this game, or at least according to Carl Banks

923
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: my trust Carlby, he was one of the best edge

924
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: setters around during his time playing Cream Martin had a

925
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: little bit of rough time out there sending the edge

926
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 1: in the game yesterday. Oh, I was thinking, um, Olivier, Honey, Vernon, Vernon,

927
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: the Giants if he if he was playing, then yes

928
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: he would be the guy, right, That's what I'm saying.

929
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: But to my point is that the Giants missed him

930
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: because the running game would have been better had he

931
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: been on. Like a rhetorical question. Um the second thing

932
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: for offense, Um, okay, so the first thing the Giants,

933
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: the Giants still I don't know. I still my breathing

934
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 1: is still very labored. When I watched this offense and

935
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: I was I was watching the other games, and I

936
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: was sitting there and I'm like, why can't I feel

937
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: just excited? Like I just feel uneasy. When I watched

938
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: the Office, it seems like every yard that the Giants game,

939
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 1: they're still fighting for it, like it's still not coming.

940
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: It's still not easy. That's what the jack Wars are

941
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: really good. Honestly, I was very encouraged, and I'd be

942
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: honest with you if I wasn't. And I made my

943
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,479
Speaker 1: opinions on you know, the Giants not going down the field.

944
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 1: Mac could do very clear on the show. Um, I

945
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: was very encouraged from a schematic, uh standpoint what I

946
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: saw yesterday. I would like to see more room in

947
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: the running game for the offensive line, giving Barkley some

948
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: more lanes, fewer guys in the backfield. That is a

949
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: accurate better pass protection. But I would like to see

950
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: them go against not the best defense in football before

951
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: I start freaking out. You know what I mean. You're

952
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: also used to last year. I know, I'm still I'm

953
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: still having trauma, absolutely right. One play that did irritate me, though, Um,

954
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: as far as the play calling, I think was after

955
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: stake kwon, Barkley ran the six eight yards and the

956
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: Giants went for the two point conversion. They gave him

957
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: the ball back. Well Cashan here, here's the thing and

958
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: real quick. Uh. They asked him about that today and

959
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: they called the pass play. But based on what the

960
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: d fence showed, EUI decided they would have a much

961
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: better chance to succeed if they went to the run.

962
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: So Eli made that call at the wine of scrimmage.

963
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I would like to say I was so upset.

964
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he's just ranch his y yards and dude,

965
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: of guests. Okay, so never mind then, So other than

966
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: other than that, my last thing is just for this

967
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: team is I feel like the Giants added some really

968
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: nice additions, but we still have a foundational problem. I

969
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: think of the analogy of a house where you have

970
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: mold in your house and it's in the foundation of

971
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 1: your house, and all you did was paint and bringing

972
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: some new furniture, and yeah, you probably took out some

973
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: of the molding and and and you took out some

974
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 1: of the mold and you replaced it. But we still

975
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: have some mold here in this house. And until we

976
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: fix the mold, it's still we're still going to have

977
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: some linger insects. And I think as good as Barkley is,

978
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: as good as Odell as we have all these weapons.

979
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: If this line doesn't hold up, and if the Giants

980
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: cannot score more than fifty point in this NFC, it's

981
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a long season. So I just hope, I

982
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: know it's week one, I just played that they turn

983
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: it around, and I will be watching, and I just

984
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: I expect us to be Dallas next week. We should

985
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 1: be Dallas. Is it going to come to the wire? Absolutely,

986
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: because of course it wouldn't come any other way. But

987
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: that's all I have to say. And I just hope

988
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: the offense gets better. Thank you, Cosan always good to

989
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: hear from. You. Don't be a stranger. I won't appreciate it. Um.

990
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: I think it will get better. I mean, Jeff, this

991
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: was probably the and this is why you can't you

992
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: can't overreact to week one because look at the opponent.

993
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: You know, It's not like you just say, well, you know,

994
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: we played a team and our offensive line was poor,

995
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: Well who are they going against? And we saw danger

996
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: signs the last couple of years when they were playing

997
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: teams that didn't have very good pass rushes, and we

998
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: saw performances like we saw on Sunday. That's when you

999
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: go start going, oh boy, they got a bunch of

1000
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: no names and they're killing us. What happens when you

1001
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: play a team like the Jaguars. Well, I get why

1002
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: you're concerned, and I get why the old Scars that

1003
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: you thought it heels starting to tingle again and maybe

1004
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: they starting to ooze a little bit. I understand it.

1005
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: I get it, but I want to see them against

1006
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: the team that does not have the best front and

1007
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: football before I lose my mind. If we show up

1008
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: next week, Jeff, and we're doing the show on Monday,

1009
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: and coming off the Dallas game, it was the same deal.

1010
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: And he lies running for his life and he's getting

1011
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 1: knocked down and there's no room in the one running game. Fine,

1012
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: the house is burning down, go nuts. I get it,

1013
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's going to happen. I don't, honestly,

1014
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: I really don't believe that to you know. I and again,

1015
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: and I'm not telling you they're gonna be the best

1016
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: line in football, but they will be good enough to

1017
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: let this offense operate. You gotta let this team build

1018
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: around itself. I mean, this is a new football team.

1019
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: There's nineteen player of this roster is left from last year.

1020
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: And to come out and expect and you look at

1021
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,840
Speaker 1: this eight games that they have to go up against.

1022
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: This is a tough schedule. And and for a new team,

1023
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: this is a new nucleus of team. It's a new

1024
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 1: coaching staff. It's all about learning about the players and

1025
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: their tendencies and what you do wrong and what you

1026
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 1: do right, and and putting game plans together. So yeah,

1027
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of patients. That's why I've always said,

1028
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: pump the brakes on the Giants being you know, over

1029
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: five ten games we even heard I mean, come on,

1030
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: rerealistic here, that's me. I mean, I hope they win

1031
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: ten games. And by the way, and and and Houston's

1032
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: in two weeks when you got what Clowney and Merciless

1033
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: coming to town, they're going to them rather And by

1034
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: the way, the other thing that's really annoying, that's Houston's

1035
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: home opener. Their first two games on the road, so

1036
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: that place is going to be loud. You're not gonna

1037
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: hear the snap count, and those guys are gonna have

1038
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: an advantage coming off the line of scrimmage. They already

1039
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 1: have an advantage even without the crowd. And that'll be

1040
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: the same deal in Dallas next week too, was their

1041
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: home opener and their own one. That crowd is gonna

1042
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: be fired up again. You don't know if ray Dee

1043
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: Gregory's playing, but they still have Tyrone Crawford inside. Uh,

1044
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: they have DeMarcus Lawrence will be lined up across Americ Flowers.

1045
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: So that's something you have to keep an eye on.

1046
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: Two Sean Lee healthy. They might not be the Jaguars,

1047
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: but they aren't walks in the park either. But I

1048
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: think I think, I think I'm not telling you. I know,

1049
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: I think that it's going to get better. Oh it's listen,

1050
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna get better. It really is. And um, you

1051
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: know one thing that you you have to look to

1052
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: coming out of this game yesterday was I didn't see

1053
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: an injury report. Wayne Goldman was the only guy with

1054
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: the knee, and he was in the locker room today

1055
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: and he said he he wants to play next week.

1056
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: But then he pointed to the back room with the

1057
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: trainers or he said it's gonna be up to them. Sure.

1058
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: So that's a good sign. That's a good, good sign

1059
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: coming out of the first game. We want to remind

1060
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Speaker 1: and he joins his next online flour What's up, Jose?

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Speaker 1: How are you? Hey? How you guys doing? What's up? Buddy? Hey? Um?

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Speaker 1: You guys just h John, You just kind of like

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Speaker 1: stole my thumb and some of the things I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about you just mentioned so basically, Um, what

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Speaker 1: you just talked about, some of the things that Jeff

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00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: talked about as well. I'm looking at the schedule, looking

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Speaker 1: the way our Giants defense played this week. UM, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to get on the bandwagon with with Eric Clarwers.

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00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that there's an issue there. But to me,

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00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers is a Nathan Peterman have looked at and

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00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: that's where we're at right now, and then hopefully well

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00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: he'll get better. But looking at the upcoming schedule, I'm

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00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: looking at offensive line and defensive line. What we have

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Speaker 1: come you guys hear me. Yeah, we were just to

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00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, that's going pretty low. Could you come up

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00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: with something else because I'm just trying to make but

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Speaker 1: all in all, not as far as the offensive line. Um,

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00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: just like you said, John about who's coming, who we're playing,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're playing, yeah, we're playing the tech defense.

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00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: We're playing the Philadelphia Eagles twice. So these are legitimate,

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00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: good defensive lines that were coming up against Dallas. You know,

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00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: don't sleep on them. Let's not even talk about the

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00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: Bears in Khalil Mack the way that guy played last week.

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00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: So we have that. But Another thing that some of

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00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: us are I'm trying to figure out is look at

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00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that we're playing. And we talked about We're

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00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: talking about Blake Bortles forty one yard run whatever that was.

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00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: We have Dak Prescott, who's a running quarterback r p

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Speaker 1: O offense. We have the Carolina Panthers running quarterback offense Philadelphia.

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00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: We don't know how wins is going to be, but

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00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: he still moves a little bit. And we have don't

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00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: don't sleep on the Redskins. They have an RPO offer.

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00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Alex Smith runs it. You're right, yep. And then we

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00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 1: have looked two more. We have the Bears. Mr. Bisky

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00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: can run a little bit, and we have the tight

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Speaker 1: It depends on how Mariota comes back. What we're looking

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00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: at as far as like all this, I mean, I'm

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00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that our defense is like, okay, we need

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00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: to tie that up. You know, we'll see when Ovi

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00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: comes back. But ov by himself is not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a rough yeah, Jose, trust me. Let me tell you

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00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: if you don't think Dallas is gonna tell Dak to

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00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: keep that ball on those read options next week to

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00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: test the Giants outside to see how discipline they are,

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00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna do that at least a few times, especially

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. That's why they like to do

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00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: that with Prescott when they get inside the red zone.

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Speaker 1: So you're a hundred percent right, that's a big thing.

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Speaker 1: And you guarantee you that when the Cowboys do their

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00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,760
Speaker 1: film session on Wednesday morning to get ready for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna show that play a ba jillion times and

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00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is gonna be licking his chops jillion. That's

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Speaker 1: a real number. And you're right, everybody knows this is

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00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: a copycat league. If that becomes successful against our defense,

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00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: doing to think all those other teams are going, You're

1119
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna see it till you can stop it. That's how

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Speaker 1: it works. Absolutely absolutely, So that's my biggest concern. I

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00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: mean the offensive line, yeah, I mean we got so

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00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: I think in a nutshell, I think that's I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about guys like Chef dropping the pass.

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Speaker 1: He dropped one, but he had a phenomenal game yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Great block. If he didn't have that block, sake one,

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Speaker 1: woul him have had that run. I mean he's playing

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00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram needs to catch the ball and he'll come around.

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Speaker 1: He'll get that. I'm not worried about our receivers in

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00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: our backs. I'm actually my concern is mostly obviously the

1130
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: number one thing is the offensive line and then our defense.

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Speaker 1: How they're gonna set the edge. Our corners played fantastic yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so I appreciate you, guys. Let me call in. That's

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Speaker 1: one thing I'm keeping my fingers cross so this year, guys,

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Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, you Jeff, Thank you man. I hope your

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00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: son does well. Thank you, buddy. I appreciate it. We

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00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: play too week, so we'll be good. The corner did

1137
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 1: play well yesterday. Ella apples all over and Genor Shanks

1138
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: gave up a couple of plays, but then he recovered

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00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: in and played well. And I've got two more calls. Jeff.

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Speaker 1: You already get him in Joe in Pennsylvania. What's up, Joe, Joe? Hi, guys. Yeah,

1141
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: it was just like a heavyweight fighter. Are we gonna

1142
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: meet meet a more physical team? Do you think than

1143
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: their offense and defensive line? No, offensive line wise, but

1144
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: otherwise no, they're probably one of the more physical teams

1145
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: you'll play, and big and just giving a flower some

1146
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: credit I thought seventy four, who was it for the Jaguars?

1147
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: He played Robinson's Oh by the way, yeah, all those

1148
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson fans out there that were begging for why

1149
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: the Giants didn't pick him in the first round last year?

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00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: What do you think now? Yeah? Yeah, so but uh,

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00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, on putting Beckham back there, I think he

1152
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: could throw just some fear into the punter. You don't

1153
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: want to kick to him, like you said, another thing,

1154
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: and maybe he'd shank it or something absolutely bad. Kick

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Speaker 1: short kick, you know, then he could run up at

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Speaker 1: fair catch it. You know in the fifties, see now, Joey,

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00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: you don't understand. Back when Jeff was a younger man,

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00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 1: he had a particular nightmare that he would often wake

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00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: up screaming, sweating at That man was the Shawan Jackson

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00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 1: and he did not want to see him back then.

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00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me anything with the Eagles.

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00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: I still feel on it. And the other guy, they're

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Speaker 1: a short guy for him to that's all the running back.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me anything about the Eagles

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00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: and Joe. You go back enough to know that when

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Speaker 1: Westbrook was back there, I hated kicking to that guy too.

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00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: I understand That's what I'm saying. They hear of them,

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00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So whatever, but uh two

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00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 1: on that, you know what I mean. On Barkley running

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Speaker 1: the ball there too. You know, if we had a

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Speaker 1: tackle or something, or if Eli would have just got

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00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: up there a little bit more, he just needed that

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00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: little more nudget, I think you would have made it there.

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00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: What I want to say there too is I thought

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00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: that was very tic tac on Ingram that when they

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Speaker 1: called him for offensive interference. Yeah, that was a bad call,

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Speaker 1: A bad call right now. And I look at the

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Speaker 1: just compared to the last play the game when the

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Speaker 1: ball was thrown the Shepherd that back then it turned

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00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: around and he was grabbing him by the arms. Yeah,

1181
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: well listen, if you're gonna if you were gonna call

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00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: af penalties on both of those plays, I think the

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00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: ladder of the two would have been more obvious than

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Speaker 1: the first one. Yeah, and I think Joe too, I think,

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00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: thank you, Joey, appreciate the call. Always good and I'm

1186
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: not sure I would have. I think you would a

1187
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: better case to throw a flag on the Shepherd play

1188
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 1: at the end of you did on the England play.

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00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 1: I agree. Um, the problem is that the ball never

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00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: actually got the shepherd's arms, and Hayden knocked it down

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00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: before it got there, Like if you would have if

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00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: Haydn would have done that. I know it doesn't matter,

1193
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: but do you know how officials call it. It's like

1194
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: it's it's the same thing in the NBA. If you

1195
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: think a guy didn't take a good shot, you're not

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00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: gonna bail him up by calling a foul, you know

1197
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's the same type of deal. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it should be that way, but it's

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Speaker 1: how it works. And if the ball had gotten to

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Speaker 1: Shepherd's arms and Hayden was like pulling one down before

1201
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: I got there, I bet you they would have thrown

1202
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: the like you know what I mean. It's just kind

1203
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: of the visual of the whole thing. All right. Finally,

1204
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: Maurice and Montclair, he's gonna wrap us up. What's up? Okay,

1205
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: what's up, gentle man? How are you doing about? Man?

1206
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: I just want to get right, great, right into it.

1207
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: I think yesterday, Um, you know it was it was

1208
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: a good dance. A lot to you know, take away

1209
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: from that game as far as positive man but I'm

1210
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sitting here watching the game, and I

1211
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: really believe, honestly, And you know, it's like beating a

1212
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: dead horse for god how long or how many games

1213
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: or instances does it have to take to realize that

1214
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers really a good football player. That's my opinion.

1215
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: But no, but Maurice, Maurice, but what's your answer? It's somebody? Man.

1216
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: You can't say somebody, no, because there isn't a somebody

1217
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: out there right now? Okay, okay, So it's Chad Wheeler?

1218
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Speaker 1: Is that horrible? He that much worse than Flowers? Eric Flowers, Maurice,

1219
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: let me tell you I can, I can, being completely

1220
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: honest with you, Eric Flowers was much better than him. Yes,

1221
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: in practice, Eric Flowers in the summer was much better

1222
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: than Wheeler. They gave Wheeler a chance to win that job.

1223
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: He could not do it. He wasn't even good enough

1224
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: to earn first team reps in practice. Okay, that's that's

1225
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: that's that's fair enough. And you know you just listed

1226
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: you know the teams that we play in the defenses.

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, it's gonna be it's gonna

1228
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: be rough. Can I understand? That's a great defense that

1229
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: we play. They still think you should have won the game.

1230
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But um, I just feel

1231
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: like what a guy you know, like like that. You

1232
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: know people are gonna get beat on the old line.

1233
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: It's the game. But you know, he breatantly kicked the

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00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: guy like it's just hardle to watch sometimes, but it's frustrating.

1235
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: I feel you, man, I feel you. Yeah, you know,

1236
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm gonna just wrap up here.

1237
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, um to mention these two

1238
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: players evan ingroom and still on show, but I think

1239
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: they're good players. But to become great. You know, they

1240
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: had like their their their fair share of drop season

1241
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: in the past. But I think to get to that

1242
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: next level, man, they got it. They gotta really short

1243
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: and to keep drives alive to make those catches. Man,

1244
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: I think those guys, if you asked them, would say

1245
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: the same exact thing. And you know, people are criticized.

1246
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: The Giants were taking a guy like sake Kwana who

1247
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: was watching the game, and like, see he's not even

1248
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: doing anything. The guy has a unique ability to even

1249
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: if you feel like you have them bottled up, he's

1250
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: always a threat to hit the home run, sort of

1251
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: like how O b J is at the wide receiver position.

1252
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: You just never know. Think the defense. I think the

1253
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: defense played well. I still I gotta highlight Landing. I

1254
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: still think Landing gotta keep the guys out of the backfield.

1255
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: When they ran that little that little sake play action

1256
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: and the guy clipped at the backfield, you know, he

1257
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: gotta he gotta be disciplined, more discipline out there. But

1258
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a good I think it's a good start.

1259
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 1: But um, you know, the old line really has to

1260
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: tighten up and somebody really has to get Eric Flowers

1261
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: on board. Thank you guys, and have a great beast.

1262
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: Good call appreciated, my friend. Always good to hear from you.

1263
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 1: It's funny because you and I both agreed when he

1264
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: said somebody, We're like, oh, they're not so funny. I

1265
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Speaker 1: was waiting for it. I was waiting for it. Yeah

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Speaker 1: it trust me. Guys. People don't cut good offensive tackles.

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Speaker 1: It's an epidemic around the league, all right. They don't

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Speaker 1: cut good offensive tackles. They just don't fun with all

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Speaker 1: the chef before say goodbye, well and with that cause

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Speaker 1: you know, so you go back and you say, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, why didn't we find somebody in the off

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Speaker 1: season or through the draft. And you just gotta you

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Speaker 1: gotta trust the organization and what they've seen in their evaluation.

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Speaker 1: They did pay Nate Solder. Yeah, I mean you can't.

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Speaker 1: You're right if they don't have a lot exactly. So

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Speaker 1: here you go, you know what I'm saying, back up

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Speaker 1: to or somebody to compared here with him. Um, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you never know. And again I think Wheeler

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Speaker 1: was given a legitimate and remember they said that it

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Speaker 1: was going to be a competition. Competition Yeah yeah, and

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Speaker 1: and really, I mean, now they didn't bring it a veteran.

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Speaker 1: If that's your complaint, I get it. But what can

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Speaker 1: I tell you? And it's just something now. One thing

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Speaker 1: I did, and I'll leave with this that I was

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Speaker 1: happy to see yesterday. Was it when he was struggling

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Speaker 1: Coach Shermer did put he got him help, he put,

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Speaker 1: he put Wheeler came in the game on a couple

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Speaker 1: of situations, was over there. So they didn't they didn't

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Speaker 1: just turn their shoulder and say, well, it's your deal, dude,

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Speaker 1: figure it out. Last year that seemed to be the point,

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Speaker 1: you know, you gotta work it out, um. But this time,

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Speaker 1: at least they were able to take a receiver off

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Speaker 1: the field and put somebody in there to help him,

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Speaker 1: and that that worked. Thank you, Jeff, You're welcome. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Tomorrow it'll be, I believe it. Tomorrow. It

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Speaker 1: is tomorrow, Lands. So we have the booster seats ready

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, guys, I had to take a shot.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love you. Know I love you guys. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know I love you. See the phone, we'll see

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