1 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Ink here 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing and we are thrilled to sit down 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: with tight end Charlie Kohler and Charlie. I love watching 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: you play, man because it honestly is very evident how 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: much fun you have playing the game, and especially when 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: you score touchdowns. The celebrations they just they don't see planned. 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: They're just like spur of the. 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Moment, you know. 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: The toss, the football toss it almost had a little 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: lebron feel to it. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: It wasn't intended. I just kind of threw the See 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: this is what I'm saying. 13 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: The high step, you know, like if I was a 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: guy who was scoring a touchdown in the league, like 15 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: I would probably high step if anybody was around me. 16 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: I would I do that in backyard football against my kids. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: So tell me take me behind the touchdowns celebrations for. 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: You, not much buying the curtains, not a lot of 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: cognitive function going on. Gotch get really excited and my 20 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: body just starts kind of moving and then look at 21 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: it on tape kind of a little bit. But uh, 22 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: it's fun. I just like celebrate with my guys, you know, 23 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: they're lying ll tide of hands, running backs, receivers. You know, 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: it's fun to celebrate with the offense. It's a good group. 25 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: Well why do you grimmus? Do you feel like the 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: high step you wanted? Like a higher high step? 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: What was it? I always like in my mind picture 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: myself looking like more athletic than the tape looks like 29 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: the high step, Like I thought I was a really 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: high step, and they look on there I got like 31 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: a hamstring injury. 32 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: But I'll be honest, the if I were going to 33 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: rank the players who I thought were most likely to 34 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: high step into the end zone, yeah, you wouldn't be 35 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: high on the lie. 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: But you did it. I don't know anybody else has 37 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: done it this year. I like plan on it. I 38 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: was just like juiced because like like the everyone runs out, 39 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: you know y League play you sell the run block 40 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 2: and then leak and we've run it before and as 41 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: long as like the you know, they drop it sucks 42 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: can zone because the ends drop and you kind of 43 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: cover it. But when they do play man like at 44 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: times the guy guarding you is the safety and so 45 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: like they're caught up in the mush. And so I 46 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: was so hoping. I was like, actually, because like it's 47 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: kind of like a breath of relief too, because we 48 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: were really struggling in the red zone that game. I 49 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: think we got two or three in the red zone. Yeah, 50 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: and you know, so like it was like I was prettjuiced. 51 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: So but now your touchdown that you had this game 52 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: against the Dolphins. I asked you about this after the 53 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 3: game because so just to run through it, the play 54 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: happens and you kind of stumble a little bit coming 55 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 3: off the line, and I actually after the game whether 56 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: that was intentional and you you joked that it was 57 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,399 Speaker 3: just a wead athleticism. 58 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: Stop saying super stuff. My face has been on social 59 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: media too much. I opened with mads this weekend and 60 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: like opens up my faces there. It's just too much. Man, 61 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: I got shut up. 62 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 3: So I'm still not convinced it was that was not 63 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: Was there any level of intentionality with that stumble because 64 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: it looked like it could have been. 65 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: No, I tripped on the four tech. I was like, 66 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: I was slamming the tackle and then I just like 67 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: tripped trying to release. It looks like gap schemes, so 68 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: like you know, that's like kind of there's a lot 69 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: of mush in there. But know I didn't mean to 70 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: like I've seen like I remember last year. I remember 71 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: I forgot what Timo was m I've been the Lions. 72 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: I think a fake bumble or something like, Yeah, kind 73 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: of cool. But I was not trying to. I wish 74 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: I was. 75 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,279 Speaker 3: I think I kind of sold it though, to be honest. 76 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: I might have. I gotta put it in. 77 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the tight Ends really came alive down there 78 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: in Miami. I mean, Mark with two touchdowns yourself, Isaiah 79 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: caught a bunch of balls. Just what was it like 80 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: in the tight Ends room when you're watching that film, It's. 81 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a lot more fun to watch the 82 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: games when you win. That's too hard to figure out. 83 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 84 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: I think it's good, you know. I think it's like 85 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: a testaments like the work we've put in as a room, 86 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 2: Like I think we have a very talented room, but 87 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 2: also like a good group of guys who like are 88 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: happy for one another. And it's been great to have 89 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: bat back and then seeing you know, all three of 90 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: us get a little involved in the offense was fun. 91 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: And backing back out there. Uh, you know, it's a 92 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: it's a fun room to come to work with. It's 93 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: just like I can't say enough good thing. It's a 94 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 2: good room. George is a great coach. 95 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: It's what makes it a good room, what makes what 96 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: makes it special. Uh. 97 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: I think I think you got some guys who could 98 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: play football, like in different ways. Obviously, like you have 99 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: some much different like play styles and body types between 100 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: the four of us, and then obviously Luke and now 101 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: Scotti being there is great. I thought z played well 102 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 2: at the end of the year. I'm happy he got 103 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: picked up by UH New Orleans. Was super happy for him. 104 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: He's a good dude, good player. I hope it's always 105 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: like you know, when you have to got cut, like 106 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: it's a friend, Like you know you wanted to be 107 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 2: around because you're a fan, but like I wanted to 108 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 2: have a good career. Like it's what's cool to see 109 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 2: them get signed to an active roster. But no, I 110 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: mean you got different group of personalities, quite a different 111 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: group of personalities. And then you just like have a 112 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 2: guy a bunch of guys that are kind of unselfish 113 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: and wanting to help the team, but also like excited 114 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: to like celebrate the room and the team, and like 115 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: I said, George was a great job in there, and 116 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: it's it's a fun group to work with. 117 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: You mentioned the different personalities. Marc is someone who stands 118 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: out to me just he's so focused and so serious 119 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 3: about everything that he does. Yeah, and he's the veteran 120 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: of the group. He's obviously got all. He's put up 121 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: some big numbers over the course of his career. How 122 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 3: does he kind of set the tone for that group? 123 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: And I don't know, is he just the serious one 124 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: in the room with with you and Isaiah who take 125 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: take on a little bit, it seems more of a 126 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: joking personality. 127 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Mark Shelly more serious Like Mark still 128 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: like you're still a good guy like you in the 129 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: rooms and stuff you laugh of a good time, but 130 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: obviously Marks a little more serious. I think like that 131 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: there's like a level of respect in the room, like 132 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: that understanding of like how much we all care about 133 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: our job. Like I think, you know, like for myself personally, 134 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: like I've I've said it before, like I take like 135 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: things I don't like think that are serious, like I 136 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: take them like jokingly, Like I don't take like interviews 137 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: very seriously. I we appreciate it or like a celebration. 138 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: But like the things in my life that I care about, 139 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: I'm passionate about, like you know, my faith, Mad's my family. 140 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: Like football, Like I'm incredibly you know, detail oriented and 141 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: like try to play as hard as I possibly can. 142 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: I think that the room like as a whole, like 143 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: does a good job of like we all have our 144 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: different personalities, but like there's a level of mutual like 145 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: understanding and respect of how serious we all take this 146 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: and how much we care. Like with that that losing streak, 147 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: like that sucked. That was miserable, Like it's coming, Like 148 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: you know, we believe we like we think we're a 149 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: good team, like and I don't think that ever went away. 150 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: So like when you keep losing those games, you got 151 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 2: to like really look at yourself in the mirror and like, 152 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: you know, what are we doing that is not up 153 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: to standard? And I think as a room, like we've 154 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: tooken a lot on ourselves, like continue to be like 155 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: valuable on the run in the past game. And I 156 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 2: think that's the thing that like all of us do, 157 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: and I think all of us you know, play with 158 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: that effort in that passion. Yeah, No, it's a really 159 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: good room. Nothing but good things to say. 160 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: When you mentioned that that losing streak and the team 161 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 3: struggling early on, how do you keep from when the 162 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: team is struggling, it's easy to say like are we good? 163 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: Like is this thing going to turn around? Like were 164 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: we wrong? 165 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: Like it's easy to have those thoughts. 166 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: How do you prevent those from getting into the locker 167 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: room and then wharping the vision that you have for 168 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: this team? 169 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's like a the fact of the 170 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: matter is like you are what your record says you are, 171 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: and like you are what you put on tape. And 172 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: at that point, we were not a good team, Like 173 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: we just weren't. Like it's not that we can't be 174 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: a good team, but like the record says that we 175 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 2: are not playing well right now, and that's the truth. 176 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: So we had to look ourselves in like, but the 177 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: thing is, that's the exact same way when you flip 178 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: it around. A team who's ten and zero can go 179 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: lose to zero to ten team and that day they're 180 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: not a good team. Like it's all about like what 181 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: you is week to week. So I think that's like 182 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: we've had some success here, especially you know, we've gone 183 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: on runs we've won a quite a few games in 184 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: a row, and like that does it Just because you 185 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: were a good team last week doesn't mean you are 186 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: a good team this week. Obviously, past the past is 187 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: the greatest predictor of future success and future failure, but 188 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: like it still doesn't mean it's gonna happen. And like, 189 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: I think that's what's like so crazy. Like I was 190 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: watching football on Sunday, like I never get to do 191 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 2: really and it was like weird, Like you watch the 192 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 2: games and like teams just don't look the same from 193 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: week to week, and like that's just like you have 194 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: to realize there's two sides of that coin, when you're 195 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: winning and when you're losing. And I think that's like 196 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: shows the maturity of the team. Like obviously, you know, 197 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: we got a big win last week versus Bears without Lamar, 198 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: and then we get Lamar back, and like you can, 199 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: I mean, we're not naive. Everyone sees the what Lamar is, 200 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 2: Like you feel that, like everyone feels that different, like 201 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: if having your MVP back. So I think it's good, 202 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: but like the same thing is like just because we 203 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: were a good team last week, as me, and we're 204 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 2: gonna be a good team this week, Like it's still 205 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: you have to go out there and play. And that's 206 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: the thing about the NFL's everyone's really good, Like everyone's 207 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: really good. Teams that don't win a game all year 208 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: are still really good, yeah, if they still have, you know, 209 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: tons of good players. So I think that's a part 210 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: of it. Is just like being real, like it's a 211 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 2: week to week league. Take it week by week. 212 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm just curious, why do you think that is that 213 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: one week a team will look really good, in the 214 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: next week they look like a completely different team. 215 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: I mean, there's just so many variables in football, Like 216 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 2: first of all, it's such a possession driven game where 217 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 2: turnovers are so big, like turnovers and basketball, like it sucks, 218 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: but like you get the ball thirty seconds later and 219 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: I love basketball. I'm just saying, like turnovers are obviously 220 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: the number one predictor of success, like and then there's 221 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: so many other thing is like there's does this team 222 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 2: matchup poorly with you? Does this team matchup well with you? 223 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: Did you have a good week of practice? Is this 224 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 2: guy sick? Is this guy having an issue at home? Life? 225 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: Like is the coach you know he's sick? All week, 226 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 2: and like there's so many like variables that go into 227 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 2: it's like a crazy game. Like you could play the 228 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: same team sixteen times in a row. It's sixteen vastly 229 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: different games, right, just because like one quality of talent 230 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: is so high where if someone does play poorly, like 231 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: they are exposed, you know, at every position, and then 232 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 2: if you play well, you can expose others because you're 233 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: that good. And then also like there's just what they're 234 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: fifty three guys, so, forty eight guys active forty nine, 235 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: Like that's a lot of people who got to like 236 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: work together in either it a good way in a 237 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 2: bad way. It's like you have forty eight different variables 238 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 2: on both sides, like it's it's a scientist night man. 239 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: There's no control variable, so like it's just like a 240 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: bunch of random And that's why, like I think it's 241 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: league is so crazy because like obviously sometimes like games 242 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: go right as you expect them, and like everyone plays 243 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: well and the better team wins. Then sometimes it's like 244 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: that's crazy, like they let me score again, like tay 245 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 2: to play. It's like just like football is crazy, and 246 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: that's why I think it's so enjoyable for fans to watch, 247 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: just like that true level of like no one knows 248 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. 249 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: Right, winning back to back games for this team, how 250 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: much momentum does that build or is there still this 251 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: mentality of like yeah, okay, we feel good. 252 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah one too straight. 253 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: But like, hey, that doesn't mean that we're gonna necessarily 254 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: play really great in Minnesota, you. 255 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Yeah, obviously, like human nature, you 256 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: can't help. But like the confidence bills when you get 257 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: on a winning streak, and that's big time and that's 258 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: where we try to ride. But like the saying like 259 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: the film, like about film, like films never as bassy 260 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: things as you think, Like it's really true, like after 261 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: a good game, you feel like you play a perfect 262 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: game and you go on there and you got killed 263 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: a whole place. And then after a bad game you 264 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: think it was the worst game ever you We'll fix 265 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 2: these players and move on. I think like this is 266 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: a good team. Like also you have the added variable 267 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 2: of like more variables. You're on the road. It's super 268 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: loud there. I've never played there, but super loud. They 269 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: got the horn blowing apparently every third down. It's it's rowdy, 270 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 2: so like that's another thing that we have to handle 271 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: on offense, like gotta be a fishing and out of 272 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: the huddle, it gotta be go with their communication, snap count, cadence, 273 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 2: motions like alignment. Everything has to be another level of 274 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 2: excellence in preparation because the fact there's so a little 275 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: less room for error. Can't yell at each other, you can't, hey, 276 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. Like it's gotta be non variable, 277 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: it's gotta be stuff. So that's the thing everyone faces 278 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: in away games, but especially when you give a crowd 279 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: like this and it's really loud, I. 280 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Almost feel like we play better in those situations. Like 281 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: I feel like the offense has oftentimes risen up on 282 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: the road when it is even tougher, like because of 283 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because of that attention to 284 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: you know why why do you think that is? 285 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's certainly like it's like the I 286 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: don't know what effect and psychologistever. But like when like 287 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: you're like truly like isolated as a group, like you 288 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: have to like come together and like when you're there's 289 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: just you and the team there, like everyone else's turning 290 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 2: against you, gotta make got your family there, So you 291 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: gotta be that obviously, you know, like you can't help 292 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 2: like know, like all right, the margin fair is smaller, 293 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 2: Like we can't have miscommunication because we can't fix it's 294 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: too loud, we can't hear it, yep, and so like 295 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 2: you have to be better with you know, huddle, pre snap, 296 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 2: playing throughout the week. How are we going to identify 297 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: this look this under versus overfront and different stuff. And 298 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: obviously they're still difficult even to play better. Like everyone knows, 299 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 2: like if you're on tilent cadence, it's an advantage of 300 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: defense because we can't hear the cadence, So like you 301 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 2: got to find ways to like mitigate that and like 302 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 2: you know your timing with the center and everything and 303 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: like find ways to mix it up. But yeah, certainly 304 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: a great opportunity and a great challenge and excited. 305 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: Oh, I want to go back to the room that 306 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: the tight end room that you talked about. In the 307 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: connection that you guys have. It's unique in a couple 308 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: of different ways, but one that also stands out is 309 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: the fact that all of you guys in there are 310 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: in contract years. Like everybody in that room is in 311 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: a contract year. And the future is uncertain, and I 312 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: think for some groups that could have like a negative 313 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: effect where guys are either they're competing for the ball 314 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: and they have everybody wants their touches and all that stuff. 315 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: But I think that the connection and the respect that 316 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 3: exists in your room is is tangible and it seems 317 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: like you like you don't have guys that are out 318 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: to get each other, and so can you talk about 319 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: how just the fact that that's looming, but it's also 320 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: not negatively affecting anything. 321 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it just takes like a certain level 322 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: of maturity and respect like among the room, like like 323 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 2: we like I don't believe in line to ourselves with 324 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: each other. Like we all want the ball. Everyone offense 325 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: wants the ball. Everyone wants to be in the game 326 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: if ite wants to block everone wants to gore touchdowns. 327 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 2: Like that's what it is like. But like you have 328 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: to deal with the reality situation, which is like we 329 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 2: have a good room, Like no one's gonna play ninety 330 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: nine percent of snaps and so like you have to 331 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: make it like there's just like you know, it's like 332 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: like there's just like choices you make in your life. 333 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 2: Like you choose, like what attitude you're gonna bring, like 334 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: what kind of teammate. Those are choices, Like you choose 335 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 2: how hard you're gonna play. You can't choose if you're 336 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 2: gonna win or not. You hope you can't, But like 337 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:49,599 Speaker 2: you can choose to be a good teammate and like 338 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: choose to be happy for each other. And that's just 339 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: like I think that's like a sign of maturity with 340 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: the room and the coaches in there, is like, hey, 341 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: like obviously we all want the ball, we all want 342 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: to play a hundred percent of snaps, but like we 343 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: respect each other, we all work hard. There's a lot 344 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: of talent in that room, and like we're just gonna 345 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: go out there and play as hard as we can 346 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: and be happy if it ever get some touches the snaps. 347 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: This off season, there was buzz out there about Mark 348 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: and the possibility that he could be traded and all that. 349 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it came up after he scored two touchdowns 350 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: in the trade deadline. People are like, is there a 351 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: possibility right? Which seems crazy. It just seems crazy for 352 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: all that guy's done. When you saw that stuff, If 353 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: you saw that stuff, what was your reaction knowing Mark 354 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: the way you do. 355 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I try to like stay off social media, 356 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: like I was, I get on, like I'm a human. 357 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: I get on sometimes, but like I try to stay off, 358 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: especially during the season, Like I'll delete it for weeks 359 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: at a time if I need to. I don't. I mean, 360 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: people are entitled of their own opinion, like they pay 361 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: money to watch us play. But like Mark's a great player. 362 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: It's a great teammate and my good friends, Like I 363 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: got so much respect and like I care about that guy. 364 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: Like it's hard to see that stuff because how much 365 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: he's done to help the team over the years. And 366 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: also like I unselfish she is, you know, like guy's 367 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: playing ninety plus plus snaps for a lot of time 368 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 2: and now he's not. That's just like doesn't change the 369 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: way it comes to work, doesn't change how good teammate 370 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: he is and the effort and passion he brings to 371 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: the game. I got nothing but good things to say 372 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 2: about Mark. You know, one day, I assume one of us. 373 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: One day, I mean, eventually, throughout the career, you're not 374 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: going to have the same teammates, and like can all 375 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: miss these teammates, Like I hope it's a long ways 376 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: down the road, but like, eventually life happens. So we're 377 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: re tired, were playing whole career, like eventually not gonna 378 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: have these teammates and I'm going to miss like gods 379 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: like Markins. 380 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been fun to see your career and watch 381 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: it over the course of your time here, uh, both 382 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: on the field and off the field, and you've developed 383 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: into a really your your role has grown and you've 384 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 3: seems like really kind of owned what your role is 385 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: and it's changed. 386 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: And you know, she came in as a receiving tight 387 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: end out of college and now you're primarily in large 388 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: right now, your touchdown machine. Yeah, I see it exactly, 389 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: but like you're you're blocking a lot, you know. 390 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like it's been cool to see that 391 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: aspect as well as the leadership I've seen you just 392 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 3: take on. It seems like, I mean, sometimes you do 393 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: it from a joking standpoint, but also like you bring 394 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: levity to situations but also to you to the point 395 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 3: that you talked about earlier, like there's a seriousness and 396 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 3: a focus that you have as well, and I've seen 397 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: you own both of those things. So can you talk 398 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: about the evolution that you've seen in your career, both 399 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: on the field and from a leadership standpoint. 400 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I have a really good support group in 401 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: my life, like Maddie, my fiance, like love my life, 402 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: Like she's my person, Like my family and my parents, 403 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: my siblings, my coat friends, my coaches. I had like 404 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: a moment in like my second year off season where 405 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: like I was just like just playing bad. Like I 406 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: just was like OTAs whatever, Like I was miserable. I 407 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: wasn't playing well. I was like stressing too much. And 408 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: I think I said this before. I've tied end coach 409 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 2: and I'm really close with and called Mouser he is 410 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: my guy, and like I was talking to him and 411 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 2: I was like just like kind of complaining. They kind 412 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: of like just like surprised. You just kind of ripped me. 413 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: Like He's like, I do, like shut up, like stop 414 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: complaining so much, like like you're being a woos. I 415 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: can't forget. I can't curse. But somebody said but he 416 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: said there more elaborate. He's like, dude, just go out there, 417 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: play as hard as you can, have as much fun 418 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: as you can. If you get fired, you get fired. 419 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 2: If you play a million plays, you play a million plays, 420 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: like just let it but let it buff out and 421 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: let it go and the kind of like re like 422 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 2: like like rewired, like back to how I've played like 423 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: most of my life. It's just like go out there 424 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 2: and like half like it's hard like to come in 425 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: the NFL. Like you guys aren't getting cut in college. 426 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: I guess they are now, But when I was in college, 427 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: like guys aren't getting cut, like you know, like there's 428 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: not like you walk in and your lockermate's gone the 429 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: next day like in that similar stuff. Like it just 430 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: took me some time to like just like dude, just 431 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: go play and like let a buff out and let 432 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: it be as it is. And I think that allowed 433 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: me to like have fun at the same time, like 434 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 2: play as hard as I can, Like I just don't 435 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: think like you can be serious all the time and 436 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 2: like really play your best football. Like they talk about 437 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: like sports like college just talk about like the like 438 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: the elite level of focus or like those sprinters, like 439 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 2: the elite level of sprinters aren't actually running as fasts 440 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 2: they can, like they're they're not feeling like that they do. 441 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: I forgebout the number is they run like ninety percent 442 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: or whatever. I feel like like football is I kind 443 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: of like that obviously there sometimes you got to stray 444 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: into the max, but like even like you got to 445 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: be like have some some measure of levity and like 446 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: fun in your sport to play your best football. And 447 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: then I think like the evolution of the role thing 448 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 2: is like I just like I be like I try 449 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: to be honest with myself, like an objective, like I 450 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: my parents are still that end to me, Like just 451 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: like I apologize on my mom used to always get 452 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: on me, like cause just like wrong, Like I don't 453 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: have to apologize, like and that's what I gotta do, 454 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 2: and like it kind of comes as honestly by myself. 455 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: And like when I looked at the team, it's just 456 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: like it was pretty obvious, like all right, where do 457 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: I fall in this room? In this offense? Like what 458 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 2: am I? Like the eighth option receiving like that guy 459 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: ink and a guy gett Canna play. And I was like, Okay, 460 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: how do I get in the field. It's like, well, 461 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 2: we just traded. We just Josh just left in free 462 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 2: agency in twenty two or twenty three. You know, Pat's 463 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: really good blocker, but he's a full he's a full 464 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: back tight end, Like he's a different body style than myself. Like, 465 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: how can I like provide value as like my career 466 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: in this team. And it's just like be a good 467 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: why like be a good blocker or be able to 468 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: block in line so you can now stretch with play 469 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: action and stuff and just like embracing that, like you know, hey, 470 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: what can I do? 471 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 1: All right? 472 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 2: I get to slide every day, I can get stronger, 473 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: I can lift more, and just like trying to be 474 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: what I can for this team. And then also I 475 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: love special teams great too. 476 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: Yeah you know what it actually does remind me a 477 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: little bit of Josh Oliver, who you just mentioned, who 478 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: was a receiving tight end who then became a really 479 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: good blocker for us and then got a lucrative contract. 480 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: To go to see out to Minnesota. Yeah exactly, it's 481 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: my guy. I'm excited to see him. Yeah. 482 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pretty cool. And and I mean, do 483 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: you how do you look at yourself now and your game, 484 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: Like do you embrace the blocker aspect of it first 485 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: and foremost? Or how do you look at yourself now? 486 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: I mean so much but still is like, well, as 487 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 2: I'm like I've gotten a few targets, like make a 488 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: play on the ball, you got some block more, block more, 489 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: it's wide zone, gap scheme whatever, Like it's the football 490 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 2: is the most coach controlled sport there is. Obviously, they 491 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 2: call the players, they call the coverages, they call the fronts. 492 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 2: So like our job is to like take that and 493 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 2: like do your best with it, and so like I 494 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: really just try to be as like valuable as I 495 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: can and just like provide a value whatever I'm in 496 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: And like that's also like why I value like special teams, 497 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: because like it's just a chance to make an impact 498 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: on the game and do what I'm as to how much. 499 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: Have you put on a lot of weights since you 500 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 3: came into the league as a rookie. 501 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: Not like a ton of weight, but I've certainly got 502 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: less fat. 503 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: I mean I want the opposite plan. 504 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 3: I thought you maybe just just bulked up. 505 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: And got heavy right now, I'm like two seventy to 506 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: sixty five. 507 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm excarce if you changed your if you 508 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: had to change your diet, like if you had to 509 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 3: change your the way that you train in order to 510 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: take on that blocking role. 511 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 2: A lot of it's just like common sense, like yeah, 512 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 2: don't be out at Patti's till two am. And it's 513 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: like stop going to bug night. That little hurt, that'll 514 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: help a little bit with recovery and lifting. And then 515 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: also like it is your job, Like you're not going 516 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 2: to class, like you have the off season, Like you 517 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: can't take time to lift and get better in the 518 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: off season, Like you don't care about your career, so 519 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 2: like it's not that hard to like just spend a 520 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: little more time in the weight room and stuff. 521 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: Do you think that someday way down the road, when 522 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: you're playing career is done, that you'll go into coaching. 523 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: I can see that for you. 524 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: Maybe it's certainly a different time requirement. And I think that, 525 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: like I think it also like the level would it 526 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 2: would better? Like I think I would struggle sometimes to 527 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: coach at lower levels because like the quality of football 528 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: is like I've now played in the league for a 529 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: few years, Like, but I don't know, like I love football, 530 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 2: Like obviously coaching is different. I'd like to use my 531 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: degree at some point. I did work hard for it. 532 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: Apparents probably disappointed if I didn't. 533 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: What's the degree again remind listeners. 534 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: I got a cap from engineering and then the master's 535 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: of finance. I'd like to do something. I like to 536 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 2: do something to help the world besides just block the 537 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: seacap it and I love it and I love it, 538 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 2: like I absolutely love it. But like eventually, like I like, 539 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: I feel like I like work so hard at that 540 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: aspect of my life and like I would like to 541 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: use at some point. But I can certainly see myself 542 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 2: getting into coaching. And like I think football, like your 543 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 2: ability to have impact on my young men's life and 544 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: lead them through like challenging and formative years is like 545 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: I'm joking about like not having any impact on the world. 546 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: Like football has tons of impact. Like it's beautiful, Like 547 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: you see the impact in the community, see like the 548 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 2: life of the city and the fans, Like there's so 549 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: many good things about football. They bringing people together and 550 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: then coaching, you know, like being impact on young players. 551 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 2: And now like it's weird, like I'm a veteran now, 552 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't feel like a veteran, Like I'm only twenty six, 553 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: Like I don't feel old, but like I'm three or 554 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: four years older than the rookies. Now it's like they're 555 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: asking me questions. I'm like, dude, like I don't, I don't. 556 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 2: I don't know anything about life. I'm just trying to 557 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: figure this out. I still text my dad when there's 558 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: a car issue, like I don't know anything. 559 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: Hey, the check in is like, how do I do? 560 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: It's a disaster. 561 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: Well, well, someday maybe if you wanted to acting, I 562 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: feel like could also the Severance So you for for 563 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: listeners out there and viewers go back and watch the 564 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: schedule release video and Charlie had a starring role in 565 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: our Severance schedule releases, and you nailed that. 566 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: I usual, it was not like preface that I was 567 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 2: the main talker, Like, I was not told that. We 568 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: didn't want to put so much pressure on you. I 569 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: just didn't want to hear my voice that much. I 570 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: was like, just move, where's the next guy talking? 571 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: Is it the role? 572 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 2: So else? Cassie lied to me. Man, you nailed it. 573 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: You did a good job well, Charlie. Thank you so much. 574 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: Man, it's fun watching you play. And best of luck 575 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: Sunday in Minnesota. 576 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, you're listening to the Lounge podcast. We were 577 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: coming to you from the Sea Geek Studio we want 578 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: to mention our partners at Draft King Sportsbook. They are 579 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draftking Sportsbook. 580 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 3: The Crown is Yours. Really enjoyed the conversation with Charlie. 581 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 3: He's one of my favorite guys on the team. I 582 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: think that a lot of times you can get kind 583 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: of lost in like the humor. Yeah, but he's got 584 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 3: a great insight and I think that I hope that 585 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: listeners took that away from the conversation with him. 586 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Charlie, he's a good player who's really grown and 587 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: super smart guy. I mean, academic Heisman coming out of 588 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Iowa State College, and you certainly see that come through. 589 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: And I just he loves football, and so it's fun 590 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: to talk football with somebody that loves it and eats 591 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: and breathes and sleeps it like Charlie does, but also 592 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: has the sense of humor to kind of poke fun 593 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: at it sometimes, you know. And so you know, Charlie's 594 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: a guy that could be here for a very long time. 595 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: You talked about all these tight ends are in contract years, 596 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Ravens 597 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: strike a deal with him after the season is over. Yeah, 598 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: and I hope so. But I also know that other 599 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: guys like Josh Oliver, who the Ravens will see in 600 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: Minnesota on Sunday, have also gone elsewhere and had good 601 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: careers too, So you know, we'll see what happens. I'm 602 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: hopeful that Charlie is here for a long time. 603 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 604 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: The tight end situation is hard to handicap in terms, 605 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 3: it really is, because it's like you could talk yourself 606 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: into keeping multiple you could go multiple different directions when 607 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: you look at this group knowing they're all free agents 608 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 3: and they're all good play. That's the thing, Like, I 609 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: don't think you look at that group and you there's 610 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: a weak link. Everyone does something differently, and I think 611 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: that a guy like a guy like Charlie, as you 612 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 3: mentioned it in the in the interview, he was a 613 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 3: receiving tight end coming out of college. He's just really 614 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: blocking was not his forte at all. But he's remade 615 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 3: himself into that role because of the opportunity that existed. 616 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 3: But he still has that ability to go up and 617 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: get the ball and catch it in traffic and probably 618 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: better hands than a lot of people realize, Like and 619 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 3: That's one of the things I really like about him 620 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 3: is that, like he has the ability to make some huge, 621 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: tough catches and so like he can be out there 622 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: and the defense can think, Okay, this is a running play, 623 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 3: and he's a perfect fit for like a play action 624 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 3: play where you need six yards, like he has made 625 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 3: for that type of play and of the goal line. 626 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 3: Like that's part of the reason I think he's been 627 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: able to get so open and these goal line plays 628 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: is because the defense will sell out to stop the 629 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: running game of Derrick Henry when here's Charlie Collar getting 630 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: wide open on a play that they just kind of 631 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: forget about him. He jokes about it, but that happens. 632 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of the perfect secret weapon. Yeah, you know, 633 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: he is this guy who blocks ninety five percent of 634 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: the time, but man, when you throw it to him, 635 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: he makes the most of his opportunities. Yeah, it makes 636 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: those plays. So it's really cool. I will say, you know, 637 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens did bring in in his college roommate, which 638 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: we forgot to ask him about this, Jake Humble with 639 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: Those two are really good pals going back to Iowa State. 640 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: So I didn't even realize there were roommates. 641 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, incentivize them to hang around. So it's pretty cool 642 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: having both of those guys here. 643 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely so. 644 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 3: As always, you can email us at the lounge at 645 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Of course, the game coming 646 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 3: up on Sunday against the Minnesota Vikings, we are going 647 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 3: to do more of a deeper discussion on that game 648 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: coming up later this week and do a full preview 649 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 3: on what the Ravens need to do to get a win, 650 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: get their third straight win, and continue moving the season 651 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 3: in the right direction. Thank you so much for watching 652 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: and listening, and we'll be back with you again later 653 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 3: this week.