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Speaker 1: Danny mccrai, two guys who played for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: And we've got a ton of topics to get into. Barry, Danny,
Speaker 1: how we're doing today, Fellas doing great man, doing amazing. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, so many topics, so many things that we
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Speaker 1: forty five minutes. So let's get it cracking. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: doing good man. I gotta admit I'm a little jealous man.
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Speaker 1: man Church is out there with the knife. You know what.
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Speaker 1: All right? All right, let us start with the new
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator. It is Dan Quinn. It's a
Speaker 1: name that we've talked about before on this show. Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn comes over from the Atlanta Falcons, where he was
Speaker 1: the head coach. Help took the take the Falcons to
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, a game they should have won. They
Speaker 1: were up twenty eight to three against the New England
Speaker 1: Patris That was a defensive game by the way he
Speaker 1: was calling. So he takes over from Mike Nolan, who
Speaker 1: was absolute failure just one year with the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: All Right, this real simple question, guys, are you drinking
Speaker 1: the kool aid that Dan Quinn is the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: now as he's supposed to go to a four to
Speaker 1: three and make this defense simple. I'll start with you Church.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, first, I got to get credit to
Speaker 1: my boy d mac man. He called this out. You know,
Speaker 1: weeks go, maybe even a month or two ago he
Speaker 1: called it out. So I gotta give props to d
Speaker 1: mac He was right on that one. But overall, man,
Speaker 1: I think this could be a solid higher. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying this the flashiest or the best higher the Cowboys
Speaker 1: could have had, but I think it's a solid hire.
Speaker 1: You know, look, I can see why some people can
Speaker 1: you know, got the got the negative thoughts about this
Speaker 1: because it could be like it could be similar to
Speaker 1: that Mikenolan situation where Mikenolan came in here and his
Speaker 1: record with defenses wasn't that good. I mean he was
Speaker 1: twenty third, I think twenty fourth and twenty seventh in
Speaker 1: the league and he came here and it was an
Speaker 1: absolute failure. So I can see why people can say
Speaker 1: the same thing about dan Quinn because even though he
Speaker 1: was a head coach in Atlanta, he was a defensive
Speaker 1: minded head coach and he was a part of that
Speaker 1: twenty eight three comeback by the Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Shoot he had us, you know, we were here, were
Speaker 1: up twenty against us, and he let us come back.
Speaker 1: And then against Tampa Bay later on in the year,
Speaker 1: he was up seventeen and they were able to come back.
Speaker 1: So I can see where people kind of have these
Speaker 1: negative thoughts about dan Quinn joining the Cowboys and what
Speaker 1: really can he bring to this defense. But the reason
Speaker 1: I say it's a solid hire is because I think
Speaker 1: if he can bring that simplicity back to the defense,
Speaker 1: if he can just bring that I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: exact same as Seattle, but to where it's look, the
Speaker 1: offenses know what we're in, y'all just gotta defeat us.
Speaker 1: Because I think it will allow our players to play
Speaker 1: a lot faster than they did last year. With Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan's system, there was a lot of moving parts, a
Speaker 1: lot of thinking pre snap and post snap, and I
Speaker 1: feel like it confused our linebackers and confused our defensive line,
Speaker 1: and we weren't able to get the most out of
Speaker 1: our defense. Those guys were playing slow. So I feel
Speaker 1: like if he can bring that simple defense like Seattle
Speaker 1: was doing back when they had the Legion of Boom,
Speaker 1: I feel like this players will run a lot faster,
Speaker 1: and I feel like we can get more production out
Speaker 1: of our defense and hopefully more splash players. But overall,
Speaker 1: I think it's a solid higher. Yeah, I agree. You know,
Speaker 1: I gotta go with it because I picked him as
Speaker 1: being one of the top hires for the Cowboys. And
Speaker 1: I say this because I really believe that when you
Speaker 1: get a guy who can focus solely on defense, and
Speaker 1: they've proven that once they are able to focus just
Speaker 1: on one phase of the game, they can be very,
Speaker 1: very good, that they can come here and do the
Speaker 1: same thing. When he went to Atlanta, it was different.
Speaker 1: He had more responsibility, and it didn't work out for him.
Speaker 1: And I say that you can use Wave Phillips as
Speaker 1: an example when he was here with the Cowboys. When
Speaker 1: I got here, they let him go in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season, and then I brought up a tweet
Speaker 1: that he showed that you can go from a four
Speaker 1: three to three four and have success and have guys
Speaker 1: on the Broncos plan, well, have guys on the Rams
Speaker 1: plan well when you focus solely on defense. And I
Speaker 1: think that'll be a renewal for dan Quinn when he
Speaker 1: gets here because he'll be able to focus on what
Speaker 1: we have currently on defense. And he actually has some
Speaker 1: pieces accomparable to what he had in Seattle. When you
Speaker 1: when you look at Seattle's roster when they went to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, they had Red Brian, Tony McDaniel, Brandon Kneebang,
Speaker 1: Chris Clemens, Bruce Irvin. When you look at some of
Speaker 1: those names, we have the Marcus Lawrence, we got Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory before you got rid of, before Nolan got in here,
Speaker 1: LV and jay Len Smith for two of the top
Speaker 1: linebackers in the league. So when you look at kJ
Speaker 1: writing and Bobby Wagner before Noland got here, you can say, hey,
Speaker 1: these guys were sending to me guys like that. So
Speaker 1: I think that that he has some pieces to work with,
Speaker 1: something similar to Seattle, and he can get in here
Speaker 1: and make these guys play to the best of the ability.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm drinking the kool ai. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: the defense will be better hooding was last year because
Speaker 1: we were a record of all time lowe. I'm not
Speaker 1: drinking the kool ai. I'm not drinking it. I've been
Speaker 1: fooled too many times through the years, man, so so
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna drink the kool aim. I will
Speaker 1: say this. I once said it can't get worse, and
Speaker 1: I watched it get worse. So I won't sit around
Speaker 1: here and say that. But I will say this, at
Speaker 1: least bringing in somebody who will run the scheme that
Speaker 1: it fits this players. That's already a plus. He's a
Speaker 1: four to three guy, so he will bring that here.
Speaker 1: A couple of questions I have here. Number one, is
Speaker 1: this defense still working discover three scheme they're trying to run.
Speaker 1: Seattle's twenty second in the league at it right, that's
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll where he came from. That defense this year
Speaker 1: was not good and we saw how it didn't hold
Speaker 1: up in the playoffs. The Chargers run the same defense.
Speaker 1: They were number ten in the league last year. Atlanta,
Speaker 1: that's defense that dan Quinn's bringing over was number twenty nine.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys were number twenty three in defense. So that's
Speaker 1: my first question. Can this defense still work in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one? My other question, who's gonna be your safety here?
Speaker 1: You got to have a quarterback out there. Earl Thomas
Speaker 1: was outstanding for Dan Quinn in Seattle, and then Ricardo
Speaker 1: Allen that was his guy in Atlanta. He was a
Speaker 1: quarterback when they went to the Super Bowl that year.
Speaker 1: He could be a cat casualty. He slated to make
Speaker 1: eight million dollars in twenty twenty one. I don't see
Speaker 1: that happening here. So Ricardo Allen is a guy who
Speaker 1: could be free. We've talked before about one of the
Speaker 1: problems I thought Mike Nolan had was he didn't bring
Speaker 1: anybody in who could run his defense. So Ricardo Allen's
Speaker 1: a name that the Cowboys need to be looking at here.
Speaker 1: Could they possibly bring him in here? Demantre Casey towards
Speaker 1: Achilles last year, he's a strong safety. He is going
Speaker 1: to be a free agent. That's another interesting name. You
Speaker 1: talk about guys who can go ahead, some veterans who
Speaker 1: understand what Dan wants out of his defense. Um, Justin Simmons,
Speaker 1: there's a free safety out there. Now, here's no problem.
Speaker 1: Price and Simmons coming from Dan gonna be agent. Well
Speaker 1: he's gonna be pricey, but oh, by the way, worse
Speaker 1: than pricey. Todd France as his agent, das guy. So
Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen. Okay. So so when
Speaker 1: I talk about and then Danny, you already hit it
Speaker 1: here because it's my other question about Dan Quinn. Where's
Speaker 1: the defensive line? Um, dan Quinn is a defensive line.
Speaker 1: That's where he got his his his starter. So he's
Speaker 1: a d line coach at heart, who's become a coordinator.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have got to get better at that. Um. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've talked about Tank Lawrence. He talked about Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: But up there in the middle they got problems. And
Speaker 1: you had a Grady Jared in Atlanta when they went
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, And obviously about Brandon me Baye.
Speaker 1: You talk about Red Bryant, you had a Michael B. Benneman.
Speaker 1: You had some guys who could play up there in
Speaker 1: that front with Seattle, and as great as their back
Speaker 1: end was, the legion of boom was they could get
Speaker 1: home with four guys. Right now, the Cowboys don't have
Speaker 1: four guys who can get home. So My big question
Speaker 1: with Dana. While I'm not drinking the kool ladies. While
Speaker 1: he may be able to want to come in here
Speaker 1: and put in this scheme right now, the carpenter doesn't
Speaker 1: have enough tools. And that's something I got to see
Speaker 1: the Cowboys go ahead and give him. All Right, So
Speaker 1: we've touched on dan Quinn, let's add another piece to
Speaker 1: this defense. They are bringing in Joe Jr. He's going
Speaker 1: to be their passing game coordinator and he'll be a
Speaker 1: dB coach. I'm not sure which dB coach is leaving
Speaker 1: be at Maurice Linquist or Al Harris. Part of it
Speaker 1: thinks Al Harris may stay because that's a guy who
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy had had a working relationship with any played
Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy. The thing I keep hearing about Joe
Speaker 1: is that he's a teacher. And on the Players Suche
Speaker 1: podcast brought you by Hotels dot Com, Danny and Barry,
Speaker 1: you guys consistently talked about who's teaching these guys. Apparently
Speaker 1: he's a teacher, which comes from Atlanta where he was
Speaker 1: with Dan Quinn Andie previously coach with Mike McCarthy at Greenback.
Speaker 1: So I right there on that move. I like that
Speaker 1: because at least the defensive coordinator has a guy who
Speaker 1: can worry about the back end who he can trust
Speaker 1: and knows the head coach can trust him too. And
Speaker 1: then Quinn we know he can go ahead and help
Speaker 1: operate on the front. And I think they'll be and
Speaker 1: of course we know they'll be looking for a new
Speaker 1: D line coach since it got rid of Tom Seueler.
Speaker 1: So mccraig, your thoughts are Jovid Junior coming in here. Listen.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of indifferent to it, man, because I think
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn's defense is simple enough, and I think that
Speaker 1: he'll be focused enough to be able to teach it.
Speaker 1: I think it's a plus that you have a guy
Speaker 1: with something, with that type of experience that you've already
Speaker 1: coached with that knows really what you want and how
Speaker 1: you want it to be taught. But I don't I
Speaker 1: don't really know enough about the guy to say that
Speaker 1: he's going to be head and shoulders over what we
Speaker 1: currently have. But he's had some success in Cleveland, he
Speaker 1: had some success in Green Bay, so you know, I
Speaker 1: think he has has a good chance to be better
Speaker 1: than what we currently have. But I'm not sure about him.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. But I'm, like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: all in on band Quinn for me. For me, they
Speaker 1: have to if you're gonna bring in a guy like
Speaker 1: Joe Witt and from what you said, knew it, he's
Speaker 1: supposed to be like, you know, there's a teacher, this
Speaker 1: guy who can, who can really teach the system in philosophy.
Speaker 1: If they're gonna bring a guy like that, in which
Speaker 1: they've already done, they're gonna have to keep Al Harris.
Speaker 1: They got to keep Al Harris because Danny, you can
Speaker 1: attest to this when you're in the room, was simply
Speaker 1: a guy that can is just a teacher and who
Speaker 1: has never like really been out there in the field
Speaker 1: and in the trenches. Guys don't really listen to that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a guy in our secondary room
Speaker 1: by the name of Joe Baker. He was, you know,
Speaker 1: great friends with you know, Jason Garrett and all that,
Speaker 1: and he was a Princeton guy, and he was so
Speaker 1: you know, smart, he knew all the X and o's,
Speaker 1: and he could he was a great teacher of the game.
Speaker 1: But when it came to the on field, he just
Speaker 1: didn't get it. He just didn't understand like that you
Speaker 1: had to anticipate things, or why why aren't you standing
Speaker 1: a yard outside the hash? You should be a yard
Speaker 1: outside the hash. But your instincts keep kick in even
Speaker 1: if you make the play and you're not where you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be. He's upset about it. So to me,
Speaker 1: they got to keep Al Harris in there, someone that
Speaker 1: the players can relate to, someone that the players can
Speaker 1: go up there and say, hey, man, how did you
Speaker 1: play this when you were here? You were a successful
Speaker 1: corner in the league. How did you play this? And
Speaker 1: I think guys will they'll they'll listen to listen to Wit,
Speaker 1: but I feel like they'll relate more to our hairs.
Speaker 1: So I think they have to keep him in there
Speaker 1: to keep that secondary room just accountable and just just
Speaker 1: together as one. Because, like I said, Danny, you've been
Speaker 1: there when it was just one teacher in there that
Speaker 1: really never played the game. It's hard to keep veterans
Speaker 1: and it's hard to keep guys attention like that. So
Speaker 1: they gotta keep Al Harris if they're going to bring Oh, listen,
Speaker 1: this is why I said, I don't know enough about
Speaker 1: the guy. And then you went out there and comparing
Speaker 1: them to Joe Baker. Listen, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: how girl, I feel about keeping anyone of the current
Speaker 1: DV coaches that we have just based off what we've
Speaker 1: seen last year. But like I said, we weren't able
Speaker 1: to be as close as we usually are here here
Speaker 1: what we usually hear from inside the locker room because
Speaker 1: of COVID. So I'm not really sure who's really at
Speaker 1: fault with it. But if you say we need to
Speaker 1: keep Al, I'm cool with keeper Al. But I don't
Speaker 1: think Joe Wit is anything like Joe Baker. Just looking
Speaker 1: at the just looking at the photos and hearing the
Speaker 1: pedigree that he had previously before he got here. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's the same night shots against Joe Baker.
Speaker 1: But we know he didn't play, uh you know so,
Speaker 1: so kind of that connection that you had as a
Speaker 1: current and former player wasn't there. But I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: compare him to Joe Wit. Goodness, one of the things
Speaker 1: that I had had thought about with with Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: and coming to the Cowboys and people talking about simplifying
Speaker 1: the defense. When you run a quote unquote simple scheme,
Speaker 1: you need great players, and I had I had some
Speaker 1: conversations with John Randall Hall of Fame defense had been
Speaker 1: played the Minnesota Vikings played for Tony Dungee. You know
Speaker 1: that that that defense that he went on to Tampa
Speaker 1: and took, and that Tampa two they had great players.
Speaker 1: Now he had a Keith millarda front, had John Randall
Speaker 1: up front. You had Chris Doleman. And then you go
Speaker 1: and you look at another defense that Tony Dungee was
Speaker 1: a part of. Tony played on the Steelers Super Bowl
Speaker 1: thirteen team which included that steel Kurta and we talk
Speaker 1: about just you know, a simple scheme, but you had
Speaker 1: great players. You had Joe Green, jackham Mel Blunt, Donnie Shell,
Speaker 1: and then that Tampa defense that he had helped build
Speaker 1: down there, um had Warren Sat, Derek Brooks, Ronde Barber, Simeon, Rice,
Speaker 1: John Lynch. So you want to run a simple defense,
Speaker 1: you need great players. And you go back and you
Speaker 1: look at the Atlanta team, the Dan Quinn coach that year.
Speaker 1: They had a special defense and they had some really
Speaker 1: good players and the Jade Garrett big Beasley had a
Speaker 1: good year. You had guys who made some plays. And
Speaker 1: then of course we all know what they had in Seattle.
Speaker 1: The two super Bowl teams that Dan was a part of,
Speaker 1: one that won the Super Bowl, then the second one
Speaker 1: they didn't win it. But it wasn't his fault because
Speaker 1: it was the offense that lost that game, not the defense.
Speaker 1: So that's where the Cowboys are at. You've got to
Speaker 1: give the carpenter better tools. They do not have enough
Speaker 1: right now, and that's going to be something that we
Speaker 1: have to dive into. All right, let's take our first
Speaker 1: go ahead. I'll about to say now listen, hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on it before we go, because I just want
Speaker 1: to run through what we currently have and what we
Speaker 1: think Dan clin could work with, all right, because I
Speaker 1: know it seems like we don't have that many pieces.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the way he's able to
Speaker 1: get get the most out of the players that he
Speaker 1: has on the roster, like he did in Seattle. You
Speaker 1: look at a guy like Tank Lawrence, you look at
Speaker 1: a guy like Randy Gregory, you look at the up
Speaker 1: and coming start Nevil Gallimore. That Church says, is there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Treyn Diggs who has the potential to be a really,
Speaker 1: really good corner if you get him in the right scheme.
Speaker 1: We all talked about Cedric Wilson and how he could
Speaker 1: really be a good player if you got the right
Speaker 1: coach around him and put him in the right position
Speaker 1: to make certain plays. I think if you get guys
Speaker 1: who are not necessarily all pros, but they know where
Speaker 1: to be and they know how to hustle and make tackles,
Speaker 1: which is what you have to do when you play
Speaker 1: a predominantly his own scheme. You have to know where
Speaker 1: to drop, you have to have your eyes on the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and you have to be able to have the instincts
Speaker 1: to break and break and drive and make tackles. I
Speaker 1: think that some of the players that we have on here,
Speaker 1: I think he has enough to start with. Now you
Speaker 1: have to still have to go in and draft some guys,
Speaker 1: but as far as having a starting point, I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty bright for him. Okay, let's take our first break.
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has a job interview with the Philadelphia Eagles.
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Speaker 1: Hook Club. So Kellen Moore is the Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: But the Eagles who fired Duck Peterson have called and
Speaker 1: they want to interview Kellen Moore to be their head coach.
Speaker 1: So I'll start with you, mccraie. Your thoughts on Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore possibly possibly being the Eagles next head coach. Listen,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like I'm just beating down
Speaker 1: on Kelly Moore. My my, my real issue with Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore is that I want Mike McCarthy to be to
Speaker 1: take on this over calling the plays. I think Kelly
Speaker 1: Moore can. He can really call plays. And if they're
Speaker 1: looking at guys like Sean McVay and like young guys
Speaker 1: who come in and bring something new to these teams
Speaker 1: and get him energize, then yeah, go ahead and go
Speaker 1: to the Eagles. Let Mike McCarthy call these plays and
Speaker 1: focus on getting the ball to my man nineteen and
Speaker 1: my guy twenty one. I think it's a good fitth
Speaker 1: for him. And really that'll be shout out to kill
Speaker 1: him because you if you look at where he came from,
Speaker 1: so quickly it'll go from was it was a quarter
Speaker 1: was a quarterback, coach, offensive coordinator, and then head coach
Speaker 1: and possibly head coach of a college team like this
Speaker 1: is all within like two or three years. So shout
Speaker 1: out to him, man, like he's doing something right and
Speaker 1: people are really liking what he's doing. I don't like
Speaker 1: it as much as they do, just specifically because I
Speaker 1: don't think he's focusing on the correct players to get
Speaker 1: us where we need to be. But shout out to him.
Speaker 1: I hope he goes, and I hope Michael Carthur takes
Speaker 1: over the play. Call him yeah, I'm with you a
Speaker 1: little bit on this one, Deed Mac Selfishly, I hope
Speaker 1: he goes to Philly because I wasn't a huge fan.
Speaker 1: I was not a huge fan of where he called plays.
Speaker 1: Too many times this season we'd be on the players lounge.
Speaker 1: Why why did we do this on fourth and inches?
Speaker 1: Why do we throw a hitch on this one? Why
Speaker 1: are we doing this? Why are we in five wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the red zone when we got a ninety
Speaker 1: million dollars back in the backfield. It's just a lot
Speaker 1: of different things, a lot of different head scratching moments
Speaker 1: that caused me to say, hey, you know, Kelly Moore,
Speaker 1: I'm just not a huge fan of his play calling abilities.
Speaker 1: So hopefully, you know, he'll go out to Philly, have
Speaker 1: a great interview, and they hire him. But like mcrai said, man,
Speaker 1: talk about betting on yourself. This is a guy that
Speaker 1: was a He was a third a third, he was
Speaker 1: a third ninth round pick, but he was our third
Speaker 1: overall quarterback on the depth chart through injuries. Rows Up
Speaker 1: played a couple of games, decided Hey, I want to
Speaker 1: be a quarterback coach. Went from a quarterback coach fast
Speaker 1: track to OC now he's declining head coaching jobs in college,
Speaker 1: and then we got NFL cats giving them giving them
Speaker 1: jobs out here. So I mean, talk about betting on yourself.
Speaker 1: This guy has had an amazing run these past two
Speaker 1: or three years, just climbing the ladder like I've never
Speaker 1: seen it before. So shouts out to him as far
Speaker 1: as his work ethic. But look, I hope Philly hires
Speaker 1: him because, like I said earlier, I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: fan of his play calling. I don't think he got
Speaker 1: the ball to the stars and up this year. But
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. That's a lot. That's a lot
Speaker 1: to take on as a head coach. As an offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: you are focused on one side of the ball. I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta focus on this offense and being the
Speaker 1: most productive offense we can do. When you're a head coach,
Speaker 1: you got the defensive side of the ball, offense, special teams.
Speaker 1: You gotta assemble your own crew as a coaching staff.
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a lot to go in there
Speaker 1: as a head coach, and hopefully he's ready for that.
Speaker 1: Whose coaching tree is here a part of He's a
Speaker 1: part of that, Garrett. I think He's the first, He's
Speaker 1: the first tree, I first wan o man, he's that
Speaker 1: first trip bridge coming out, and we know what that
Speaker 1: and we know what that means. He won't be getting
Speaker 1: a Joie Church when Church, you know, Matt, Matt, he
Speaker 1: refuses getting one right now, you know, look to me,
Speaker 1: to me, this is a great opportunity both ways. It's
Speaker 1: a great opportunity for Philadelphia to try and get inside
Speaker 1: the mind of Kellen and what he was doing with
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and their offense and what he did
Speaker 1: to really make Dak Prescott surpass Carson Wentz to that
Speaker 1: whole Who's better dat Wentz debate, that thing is done. Also,
Speaker 1: whoever takes his job, your job is to come in
Speaker 1: and fix a broken Carson wins and deal with a
Speaker 1: salary cap bloated football team with a bunch of aging veterans.
Speaker 1: And I just don't think if I'm Jeff Lory, that's
Speaker 1: where I would go to bring in a first time
Speaker 1: head coach who's got less than than, you know, six
Speaker 1: years NFL experienced coaching. So I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 1: But look Al Davies used to bring in guys all
Speaker 1: the time, and he would want to pick their brains
Speaker 1: about where the Raiders should go at what they should do.
Speaker 1: He did that with Sean Payton, ended up offering Sean
Speaker 1: Payton the job of Sean Payton didn't take it. I
Speaker 1: remember at the time Bill Belichick interview with Al Davis
Speaker 1: and and Belichick had reportedly told Al Davis said, you're
Speaker 1: not hiring me, You just you're just picking my brain.
Speaker 1: And Al Davis kind of something like, you're right, because
Speaker 1: Al usually hired offensive guys because Al was a defensive guy.
Speaker 1: So he wanted to hire offensive guys because Al felt
Speaker 1: like he could go ahead and pick players and do
Speaker 1: that thing. So I think this is a good opportunity
Speaker 1: for Philadelphia. It's a good opportunity for Kellen Moore. So
Speaker 1: if you're Kelly Moore, you're up there, you're trying to
Speaker 1: pick the brain and figure out what is it that's
Speaker 1: going on here because you got to go face these
Speaker 1: guys twice a year. So I expect Kellen Moore back
Speaker 1: as the bottom line. So I don't think Kelly is
Speaker 1: going anywhere at all. I knew he could question, KNEWI
Speaker 1: how I just want to know how Kellen Moore was
Speaker 1: able to rise up the ladder this quick like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen something like this happened
Speaker 1: this quickly, like you went from a backup queue to not,
Speaker 1: you know, quarterback coach to OC. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: so much steps and in such a short amount of time,
Speaker 1: Like how does this happen? Who you know? Is it?
Speaker 1: Who you like? What you think? It's the Cowboys And
Speaker 1: we've already seen it happen. Jason Garrett, We saw it happen.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was on Nick Saban's staff as a quarterback coach,
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys hired him as a coordinator. He'd never
Speaker 1: called plays, and then after calling plays from one year
Speaker 1: off at thirteen and three, team at Lanta offered him
Speaker 1: in their head coaching job. Baltimore offered him at their
Speaker 1: head coaching job. He turned it down because Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: signed it to a big, old fat contract to keep
Speaker 1: him and basically said, you'll be the cowboys next head coach.
Speaker 1: And the same thing happened to Kellen Moore. Okay, we've
Speaker 1: seen them do this with there. I mean, you think
Speaker 1: about this, They've done this now in terms of keeping
Speaker 1: guys in the fold with big money deals that did
Speaker 1: with Sean Payton, did it with Jason Garrett, and now
Speaker 1: they've done it with Kellen Moore. So this is a
Speaker 1: part of it, and it's the Cowboys. Look, we can
Speaker 1: say whatever we want to about how many times Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore is getting Amari Cooper the football or Ezekiel Elliet,
Speaker 1: but these guys have been able to put up some
Speaker 1: numbers under Kellen Moore that certain teams will love to
Speaker 1: have out of their running back and out of their
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver and to have a Pro Bowl quarterback.
Speaker 1: So he's got this going for him. Kellen Moore's on
Speaker 1: TV every week. Okay, so we know how people get
Speaker 1: influenced by perceptions, and the perception with the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you're doing things right. You should not be surprised. I'm
Speaker 1: just surprised that teams aren't looking at it like, hold on,
Speaker 1: I'm just looking you guys hearing me, am I still here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got you? Okay, Yeah I got it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm just looking at it like this. I'm surprised
Speaker 1: teams aren't looking at how the Cowboys are getting these stats.
Speaker 1: Like half of the time we're down twenty one points,
Speaker 1: fourteen points and we have to you know, mount this
Speaker 1: offensive comeback. So we're putting up a lot of yards
Speaker 1: because the defenses we're playing against they're doing Okay, we're
Speaker 1: up twenty one. Let's do a little prevent and we'll
Speaker 1: allow all these shadow routes, will allow all these yards
Speaker 1: to accumulate as long as you don't come back. So
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised teams aren't looking at that like how
Speaker 1: these put up these numbers and how he got these
Speaker 1: great stats. It's basically from coming from behind. You mean,
Speaker 1: what were you doing when you first had the ball,
Speaker 1: when when it was zero zero? You know. So I'm
Speaker 1: just surprised teams are looking at it like that, And frankly,
Speaker 1: I'm just surprised he was able to get a get
Speaker 1: a head coaching opportunity this quick. Yeah yeah yeah. Figureback
Speaker 1: on that new you remember, I think it was a
Speaker 1: stat that that they said one of the commentators said
Speaker 1: it was like seventeen games without scoring to open and
Speaker 1: drive touchdown. I mean that that's the stat that you
Speaker 1: that you have to look at and say, Okay, how
Speaker 1: we started this game off because if you remember last
Speaker 1: Jason Garrets last year, but the big thing was we
Speaker 1: just started slow almost every game and killing More was
Speaker 1: off as coordinator. So when you're looking at these games,
Speaker 1: are you're looking at stuff like that? You say, I
Speaker 1: can understand what Church is like? Yeah, so what are
Speaker 1: they just looking at quarter the second half? Or they
Speaker 1: just looking at the play design and saying, well, maybe
Speaker 1: that design fits the players that we have. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of lost on it, but you know it's the effect. Man.
Speaker 1: They want the young guys. They want the young guys
Speaker 1: as a cowboy guy, they're able to be up in
Speaker 1: the news and all that stuff. So I give it, fellas. Fellas,
Speaker 1: all right, make sure you got to your bulls headphones
Speaker 1: on real tight, because I'm a shock. Shock you with
Speaker 1: something I was saying. Bill Parcels used to say this
Speaker 1: all the time. So a perception is reality, and there
Speaker 1: is a perception that Kellen Moore is a really smart, innovative,
Speaker 1: good football coach. That is the perception, no matter what reality.
Speaker 1: You who watched this and see and raise these questions,
Speaker 1: no matter what you think, the people who are in
Speaker 1: the hiring mode believe that that's how a guy like
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor ends up becoming the head coach. To Daddy
Speaker 1: Bengals because he stood next to Sean mcvaigh and there
Speaker 1: was this perception that, you know what he's got it,
Speaker 1: he's the next Jedi because he learned from Master Yoda,
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, who learned from Kyle Shanahan, who learned from
Speaker 1: the Daddy Mike. The perception versus reality always carries a
Speaker 1: big thing. And when it's the Cowboys, a part of
Speaker 1: the perception is, Hey, this coach is really good or
Speaker 1: this player is really good. How many times have we
Speaker 1: seen guys leave the Cowboys signed big money deals in
Speaker 1: other places. It's the perception. So it comes to hiring.
Speaker 1: You're sitting around here thinking that these people who do
Speaker 1: the hiring know what they're doing. They really don't in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. Because if you understood what the hiring,
Speaker 1: what hiring should be about. Why is Eric b Enemy
Speaker 1: without a job? Yeah, because we've seen what have we
Speaker 1: seen from the last two offensive coordinators from Andy Reid?
Speaker 1: They've been guys who've who've made the playoffs, Matt Negie
Speaker 1: with Chicago, Doug Peterson with the Eagles. Peterson won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. What else have we seen from from Andy
Speaker 1: Reid's coaching treat. We've seen another guy, Jim Harp, I
Speaker 1: mean John Harball win a Super Bowl. So Andy Reid's
Speaker 1: produced some really good assistant coaches to become head coaches,
Speaker 1: but yet Eric b enemies without a job. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you this starts to become the way they hire,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So I think, Barry,
Speaker 1: you're trying to make sense out of something that when
Speaker 1: you think about the NFL, the way they hire and
Speaker 1: the way they go about things don't make no sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, because how is Joe Judge becoming a head
Speaker 1: coach Teams got I mean, you know special teams guy
Speaker 1: in New England who couldn't really get anybody from New
Speaker 1: England to go with him. He had to go get
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett as Jason Garret to go bring a bunch
Speaker 1: of his staff up to New England with him. So
Speaker 1: when you're trying to make sense of how these folks
Speaker 1: like to hire, why they're doing it, don't don't look
Speaker 1: forward to make sense. So they want to talk to
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore. Fine, they want to talk to Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: and good on Kellen, but I expect him back here
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. All right, let's go ahead news because
Speaker 1: just a quickment o, the enemy is not interviewing the
Speaker 1: enemy worth ruining the relationship with your starting forty million
Speaker 1: dollar quarterback because I'm still the Texans have been doing
Speaker 1: confused things for the last two years with Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: and letting DeAndre Hopkins go. And the newest thing is that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun Watson says, hey, I want you to
Speaker 1: interview Eric Benemy. I want to be kind of involved
Speaker 1: because that's what you guys told me I was gonna be.
Speaker 1: And then you don't even get a guy an interview,
Speaker 1: and then now the relationship it's more strained with your
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. What is it about the enemy that these
Speaker 1: guys they just don't want to give him a shot?
Speaker 1: All right, here's the real break it down, real simple.
Speaker 1: Jack Easterby, Okay, Jack Easterby is basically the right hand
Speaker 1: man to the owner. Jack Easterby came from New England,
Speaker 1: brings in Nick Cassario from New England and New England.
Speaker 1: What did they do? They did things the way they
Speaker 1: wanted to. Did they consult Tom Brady? Did they go
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady and ask, hey, Tom what you think
Speaker 1: about there. No, they never did, which is one reason
Speaker 1: why Tom Brady's not there now. So if they weren't
Speaker 1: trying to listen to what tom Brady wanted to do,
Speaker 1: you think they were gonna listen to Deshaan Watson because
Speaker 1: they think they It's almost like the Jerry Krause deal
Speaker 1: when he was with the Bulls. So he says, you know,
Speaker 1: players don't win championships, organizations do. That's how they think. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's how they think. So when Andrea Johnson comes out
Speaker 1: and says what he did about Jack Easterby on Twitter,
Speaker 1: pay attention to it because he knows they heard it.
Speaker 1: They said, yeah, y'all heard what they said a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. They don't want to you know, prison
Speaker 1: We don't want the prisoners running the running the inside.
Speaker 1: But whatever, he said, yeah, yeah, you know, I ain't
Speaker 1: know what you know, how they feel about it right now.
Speaker 1: The late Bob mcnaiir, late Bob McNair said that, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I don't know. I think he was more
Speaker 1: he was upset because he said they they told him like,
Speaker 1: they came to him and said they wanted him to
Speaker 1: be involved in the process. And then and then you
Speaker 1: leave him out. Makes no sense. You're paying them forty
Speaker 1: million dollars. And then the guy you had, a guy
Speaker 1: hating your whole organization, makes makes no sense. You would
Speaker 1: have a James Hard situation on your hand. Shout out
Speaker 1: to Houston, man, we just got issues. Well, and then
Speaker 1: you got Patrick Mahomes, who's in the ear of Watson, saying,
Speaker 1: this is the guy you want. You want this guy?
Speaker 1: What am I look at what I am and what
Speaker 1: I'm doing today, it's this guy. So if Houston doesn't
Speaker 1: want to win, go ahead. Um it's unfortunately feels like
Speaker 1: Eric b Enemy's on that same road that Tony Dungee
Speaker 1: was on and he was putting up winning defenses in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: defenses were finishing first and second in the league and
Speaker 1: couldn't get a job. And then you hear that old
Speaker 1: bull drive line, oh he doesn't interview. Well, well, what
Speaker 1: did we see with Tony Dungee finally got his job,
Speaker 1: By the way, it was the dog job of the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, but he made him a consistent winner.
Speaker 1: Then he ended up going to Indianapolis and winning a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So if that is the road, my Omega man,
Speaker 1: Eric B. Enemy has to travel then you know, if
Speaker 1: it can lead you to the Hall of Fame like
Speaker 1: it did Tony Dungey. Maybe it's dream deferred but not denied.
Speaker 1: But at some point in time, somebody's going to realize
Speaker 1: that Eric B. Enemy's a guy with substance. You know,
Speaker 1: He's a guy with some substance. And the guy who's
Speaker 1: done it versus the Zach Taylor's of the world, the
Speaker 1: Joe Judges of the world, who somehow have been selected
Speaker 1: by owners and general managers who feel more comfortable with them.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. When we come back, we've got
Speaker 1: to get our playoff predictions in. And also Herbert Meyer.
Speaker 1: Herbert Meyer ends up at Danny's old place in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: will get his take on a guy who's reportedly making
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars a year to run the whole thing.
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Speaker 1: I'm knew he Scruggs a longtime Cowboys reported joy by
Speaker 1: Barry Church and Danny mccraig. All Right, fellas, um, We've
Speaker 1: got uh. Barry Church's old team Jacksonville bringing in Urban Meyer,
Speaker 1: reportedly making twelve million dollars a year. He's gonna run
Speaker 1: the bang for Shod Cohn and his son, Tony Church.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts. Look, I'm gonna be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: think this one. I think this one was a good
Speaker 1: hire man because look, he brings one. He'll sell tickets,
Speaker 1: because I mean, if you think about a Jacksonville as
Speaker 1: a college, it's basically a college town. It's an sec town.
Speaker 1: We love college guys, we love all this. So Brilling,
Speaker 1: you bring in urban Meyer in there. He's gonna sell
Speaker 1: you tickets. And you got the first overall picks, so
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna take Justin Lawrence or whoever's name is Lawrence.
Speaker 1: And then you also battle over one hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, and you also have over one hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars in cat So you got a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: people that are going to want to come down there
Speaker 1: because there's no state tax. So he'll have his pick
Speaker 1: of free agents. He has the first overall pick, plus
Speaker 1: eleven more picks in this draft, so he's gonna have
Speaker 1: the ability to make this team his own. And Johnsonville
Speaker 1: they needed a culture shift. They needed someone to come
Speaker 1: in there and switch the whole culture from this losing
Speaker 1: attitude and maybe this is a guy that can come
Speaker 1: in and do it. The only thing that concerns me
Speaker 1: about Urban Meyer is that wherever he's been there's always
Speaker 1: been a stack team. In Utah, he was with Alex
Speaker 1: Smith and those boys. When he went down to Florida,
Speaker 1: he had Percy Harvin, he had Chris Leak, he had
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow, he had that whole shebang. When it was
Speaker 1: too tired, when he was tired of that, he went
Speaker 1: up to Ohio State. They were loaded. And to me,
Speaker 1: there's two things that worry about me is is he
Speaker 1: just a guy that can coach, you know, stack team?
Speaker 1: So is he that good of a coach? And also
Speaker 1: how invested is he in this? Is he gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and after a few years say, ah, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm tired of this. I'm gonna retire like
Speaker 1: he did in Florida and like he did in Ohio State.
Speaker 1: So those are the only two things that concerned me
Speaker 1: about him. But overall, I think it was a solid
Speaker 1: hire and he could he could bring Jeff Jacksonville back
Speaker 1: on the map. Uh Yeah, I think I think it's okay.
Speaker 1: Higher I mean, we just got through talking about the enemy,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm still I still think that there
Speaker 1: were better choices out there for Jacksonville. But the main
Speaker 1: thing about rbbody that concerns me is his health. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you think you had problems in college, going go
Speaker 1: out there to Jacksonville where not expectation is going to
Speaker 1: be that you are the guy who's supposed to turn
Speaker 1: things around and you got you have all the all
Speaker 1: the power to make all the moves, and they're putting
Speaker 1: all the oners on you to get this organization right
Speaker 1: on track. And uh, and you having these health issues.
Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing. And anytime that I
Speaker 1: that these college coaches go to the NFL, I always
Speaker 1: think back to when Nick Saban took his shot at
Speaker 1: the league and he just did not He could not
Speaker 1: handle dealing with those grown men out there. It's a
Speaker 1: different game when you get out there to the NFL.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how Irban Mider does. I think there
Speaker 1: were better options, but hey, we'll see high goes because,
Speaker 1: like Church said, he has a lot of cap space
Speaker 1: and he can also pick Turevor Lawrence, who was supposed
Speaker 1: to be the second coming of Andrew Luck and Payton
Speaker 1: Mann and Tom Brady. So we'll see high works well
Speaker 1: for twelve million a year and total autonomy and the
Speaker 1: ability to pick a GM. I could see why he
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Speaker 1: All right, fellas, let's touch on another point here before
Speaker 1: we get into our picks. NFL Draft, are we thinking offense?
Speaker 1: I was reading Dame Brugler or The Athletic. He came
Speaker 1: out with his second party drafts got the Cowboys taking
Speaker 1: an offensive tack of Shawn Slater out of Northwestern University. Here, McCray,
Speaker 1: you your thoughts. I mean, listen, dan Quinn's here. I
Speaker 1: said we need an offensive tackle. I'm still sticking with that.
Speaker 1: We need an offensive tackle. I'm gonna run through this quickly.
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman fifth round camp chancel the third round. kJ
Speaker 1: Wright fourth round. Ray Bryant was drafted in the fourth round.
Speaker 1: Me bang third round, body Wagon the second round. You
Speaker 1: can draft the offensive tackle in the first round and
Speaker 1: still get you some guys on defense after that to
Speaker 1: make sure that you have the pieces for dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: It's possible that's those are the guys that he played
Speaker 1: with on the Super Bowl winning Seattle Seahawks team, So
Speaker 1: it can still be done. Sure your offensive line, get
Speaker 1: those guys back to what they used to be, protect back,
Speaker 1: and then finish it off with defense. This is crazy
Speaker 1: to me, man, I just can't believe it how bad
Speaker 1: our defense is. Every single year this comes around where
Speaker 1: in the right when the season end. Man, we need defense.
Speaker 1: We need defense. But as the season gets along, you
Speaker 1: start hearing creeping creep, Oh, this guy might be available,
Speaker 1: that guy might be available. Our office can get a
Speaker 1: lot stronger. Man. We are going to be eight and eight,
Speaker 1: nine and seven for the rest of our lives. Man,
Speaker 1: our CAP's gonna be destroyed with this Dak Prescott deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, we need defense, we need help, and you're
Speaker 1: going to putting so much pressure all Will McLay to
Speaker 1: hit on these draft picks. It's ridiculous. But hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: Dad Quinn got the juice and he can do something
Speaker 1: with these players that Mike Nolan wasn't able to do.
Speaker 1: We will see, but we're gonna be under a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure, man, for sure. One of the issues that
Speaker 1: I would love to know is how the scouts are
Speaker 1: changing the types of players they're looking for based on
Speaker 1: what dan Quinn wants. And we know dan Quinn has
Speaker 1: a defensive background on the defensive line. I've got to
Speaker 1: think he's looking at this d line right out of
Speaker 1: the gate and says, I need some help. So do
Speaker 1: they do it in free agency? And I think so
Speaker 1: much of what happens in the draft will depend on
Speaker 1: what they do in free agency, which goes back to
Speaker 1: when do you signed Dak Prescott here? So I think
Speaker 1: the tenth pick in the draft could be in play.
Speaker 1: And the reason I say in play for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: is if there's four quarterbacks that people are talking about
Speaker 1: here and even three quarterbacks to go in the first round,
Speaker 1: one of those guys could end up at ten. Go
Speaker 1: back to Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes is a tenth overall
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, but the Chiefs traded up to
Speaker 1: go get it green Bay last year, trade it up
Speaker 1: to go get that kid and from Utah State love
Speaker 1: Jordan Love so even Deshaun Watson. That was where Houston
Speaker 1: traded up with Cleveland at twelve to go get in.
Speaker 1: So I think if you're the Cowboys and you signed
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott to a huge deal, you've got several needs. Okay,
Speaker 1: not just cornerback you got, you got needs on the
Speaker 1: defensive line. They could possibly drop down, add extra firepower
Speaker 1: and still get someone they like and possibly get somebody
Speaker 1: on that defensive line. So right now, before we get
Speaker 1: to free agency, I'm going to say the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: gonna move this pick. We got to get to these
Speaker 1: NFL because we can't delay Church from getting out here
Speaker 1: and doing his thing on the slopes. You tell you
Speaker 1: what it's true, okay, but we didn't lie to you.
Speaker 1: So the Ram the Rams are at green Bay Saturday.
Speaker 1: At green Bay's a six and a half point favorite,
Speaker 1: d Mac. Where are you going? I'm going green Bay
Speaker 1: to cover my man. Jerry Golfin's back out there with
Speaker 1: a broken thumb. I don't see him going out there
Speaker 1: and beating Aaron Rodgers and I'm gonna give them a
Speaker 1: thirty five to seventeen win over the Rams. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it the opposite way. I'm seeing Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: Michael Brockers. I'm seeing Leonard Floyd and those boys. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get after after Aaron Rodgers out there,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be able to do it with just
Speaker 1: rushing fourth and they're gonna, you know, do a lot
Speaker 1: of coverage back there. Rams, he's gonna take away DeVante Adams.
Speaker 1: I got Rams winning this twenty four seventeen, twenty four seventeen,
Speaker 1: So Jayalen, So you got Ramsey shutting down or at
Speaker 1: least limiting Davante Adams And okay, good stuff there. Give
Speaker 1: me Green Baity win this thing. Twenty three to twenty Saturday,
Speaker 1: Baltimore at Buffalo Bills two and a half point favorite
Speaker 1: at Home Church. Where you going, man, this is by
Speaker 1: the meet. It's gonna be the best game of the weekend.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got two two great offenses. Defenses are
Speaker 1: a little shaky, but man, this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: great one. But you know what, Lamar Jackson's on a
Speaker 1: little bit of a role. He beat his arch Nemesis
Speaker 1: in Tennessee last week. I gotta go Baltimore and this
Speaker 1: one twenty eight to twenty four. It's gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be very interesting when we get back in here and
Speaker 1: do the recap. I'm gonna bill, I'm gonna build thirty
Speaker 1: one thirty man. I think Josh Ellen and Stefan Diggs
Speaker 1: are just just playing too well right now. I think
Speaker 1: they're clicking on all cylinders. I think they have the
Speaker 1: defense to back it up, and uh, you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson will lose do somebody did get his first
Speaker 1: playoff win, so it's it's sky's the limit for him
Speaker 1: after this year. But I think Buffalo is just rolling
Speaker 1: this year. So I'm gonna build thirty one thirty, all right,
Speaker 1: give me ball Toibard to win. Twenty four, twenty one Sunday,
Speaker 1: Cleveland at Kansas City Chiefs ten point favorite DMAC thirty
Speaker 1: one seventeen. I think that Baker Mayfield, you know, goes
Speaker 1: back until his old self. I don't see them scoring
Speaker 1: that much on special teams and on defense, so I
Speaker 1: don't think they're able to put up that many points
Speaker 1: on the chief So I'm gonna goa thirty one seventeen.
Speaker 1: We know Tyree Hill and Patrick Mahomes and those guys
Speaker 1: that they're gonna do their thing on offense, So I
Speaker 1: think they cover who you know what I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are gonna shock the world this weekend.
Speaker 1: I think Nick Chubb and I think Kareem Hunt. They're
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball well, They're gonna keep Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and I think that's how they're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. They're gonna chew up the game clock. They're
Speaker 1: gonna score about I think they're gonna score twenty four points.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's tough Man City what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can do that one. But give me the shocker, man,
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm going Cleveland twenty four, Kansas City twenty one. Wow,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. I'll take the Chiefs thirty four, twenty six.
Speaker 1: I just don't think Baker Mayfield is going to be
Speaker 1: ready to go to Kansas City and win this kind
Speaker 1: of football game. Beating the Steelers rivalry game, a lot
Speaker 1: of personal things there. This is a whole lot different.
Speaker 1: Now you're trying to take on and beat the champs. Here,
Speaker 1: all right, our final one in New Orleans on Sunday,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the Buccaneers or a three point favorite
Speaker 1: to Drew Brees and the Boys. D mat what you
Speaker 1: got this? This is the hardest one right here. But
Speaker 1: I think that the Saints swept the Bucks in the
Speaker 1: regular season, and this could possibly be Drew Brees's last
Speaker 1: season as a New Orleans Saint. I did not like
Speaker 1: the way that the Bucks looked against Washington. The Bucks
Speaker 1: have this tendency to go out and play really well
Speaker 1: sometimes when they come out and they looking really bad
Speaker 1: other times. So I'm going with my guys, Sean Payton
Speaker 1: and the New Orleans Saints thirty one, twenty eight, Drew
Speaker 1: Brees fourth quarter comeback touchdown to win the game. Oh, Church,
Speaker 1: you this is gonna be a tough one, man. But
Speaker 1: for me, it's it's extremely hard in the NFL to
Speaker 1: beat the team three times. So I know they got
Speaker 1: him twice already, but I gotta go with Tim on
Speaker 1: this one. I got time winning this game twenty eight,
Speaker 1: twenty one, and I think he does it pretty easily.
Speaker 1: All right, give me the Saints to win it thirty
Speaker 1: one twenty nine to get it done here. Last week
Speaker 1: we did it. We did pretty okay in the picks here,
Speaker 1: Church as usual. You you you picked him interesting ones.
Speaker 1: But so last week Church, you were wrong on Indie.
Speaker 1: We both dback and I have Buffalo. We all were
Speaker 1: wrong because Seattle let us down. We were all right
Speaker 1: because Tampa beat Washington, d MAC. You had the Ravens.
Speaker 1: We all had the Ravens and we won there. There.
Speaker 1: All of us picked New Orleans, we won there. We
Speaker 1: all picked Pittsburgh and lost there. And everybody was right
Speaker 1: about the National Championship game? Is Alabama ended up winning?
Speaker 1: I was the closest one. I had Bama winning by ten,
Speaker 1: thirty forty one to thirty one. Right, greatest team, greatest
Speaker 1: team in college history. Hello, hold on, no, we're not
Speaker 1: ending like that. Church give us too many, Church, give
Speaker 1: us two minutes. He's not going to do that too.
Speaker 1: Church gotta go first. Church, No, Church, I go no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you just think no, no, no, no. Church wants the
Speaker 1: draft just this week, then we go crust that. No,
Speaker 1: hold just the dragons drafts draft. Slow, let me open
Speaker 1: this church gotta slow, Church gotta go all right, I
Speaker 1: want the slow old Tigers, no time. This has been
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