WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Drinking the Dan Quinn Kool-Aid? 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:21.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:26.800 label broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:38.200 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and Newi sdrugs. Hey, 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:41.000 everybody is Friday. That means it's time for the Players Lounge. 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.320 Your boys at back here for forty five minutes of 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:47.040 football talk. And I am excited, just too long after 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.800 you go day to day like we've been to have 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.160 to go week to week. So I'm new We scrugs, 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.519 a long time Cowboys reported joined by Barry Church and 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.160 Danny mccrai, two guys who played for the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:00:59.840 And we've got a ton of topics to get into. Barry, Danny, 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:04.160 how we're doing today, Fellas doing great man, doing amazing. Um, 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:06.399 you know, so many topics, so many things that we 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.840 can discuss. Now we're used to doing it every single day, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.600 but we gotta do it all in one day, in 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.400 forty five minutes. So let's get it cracking. Yeah, I'm 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.000 doing good man. I gotta admit I'm a little jealous man. 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.520 I've been stuck in the house for a while. My 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.640 man Church is out there with the knife. You know what. 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:29.440 I got his National Geographic shirt on because he just goes. 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:32.400 You know, I'm a little envious, but you know we'll 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:36.000 be out soon. That nikka soum So I'm all right, Okay, 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.800 you want to open the shade, sev. Let me see 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.200 the shade. Let me see the shade shirt. It's a 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.120 little bright. Man. I don't know if y'all ready for this, 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:50.520 right boy? You know, man, I don't want to. I 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:52.400 don't want to ever hear you talk bad about the 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:58.280 Jacksonville Jaguars again. Okay, not ever again? Yes, you all 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:07.600 that money they gave you a highlight exactly. Some people 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.320 get swindled out here, mate, I do swindle, you know. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.440 All right? All right, let us start with the new 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:19.880 Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator. It is Dan Quinn. It's a 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:22.919 name that we've talked about before on this show. Dan 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.440 Quinn comes over from the Atlanta Falcons, where he was 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:28.000 the head coach. Help took the take the Falcons to 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.640 a Super Bowl, a game they should have won. They 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:32.760 were up twenty eight to three against the New England 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:34.800 Patris That was a defensive game by the way he 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.359 was calling. So he takes over from Mike Nolan, who 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.560 was absolute failure just one year with the Dallas Cowboys. 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.639 All Right, this real simple question, guys, are you drinking 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.119 the kool aid that Dan Quinn is the defensive coordinator 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.400 now as he's supposed to go to a four to 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.320 three and make this defense simple. I'll start with you Church. 0:02:54.800 --> 0:02:56.960 All right, Well, first, I got to get credit to 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.560 my boy d mac man. He called this out. You know, 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.640 weeks go, maybe even a month or two ago he 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.639 called it out. So I gotta give props to d 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.640 mac He was right on that one. But overall, man, 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.240 I think this could be a solid higher. I'm not 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:11.800 saying this the flashiest or the best higher the Cowboys 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.359 could have had, but I think it's a solid hire. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.600 You know, look, I can see why some people can 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:19.840 you know, got the got the negative thoughts about this 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.240 because it could be like it could be similar to 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:25.640 that Mikenolan situation where Mikenolan came in here and his 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:27.760 record with defenses wasn't that good. I mean he was 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.520 twenty third, I think twenty fourth and twenty seventh in 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.480 the league and he came here and it was an 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:35.040 absolute failure. So I can see why people can say 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.200 the same thing about dan Quinn because even though he 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.720 was a head coach in Atlanta, he was a defensive 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.600 minded head coach and he was a part of that 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:45.400 twenty eight three comeback by the Patriots in the Super Bowl. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.680 Shoot he had us, you know, we were here, were 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.680 up twenty against us, and he let us come back. 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:51.680 And then against Tampa Bay later on in the year, 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.880 he was up seventeen and they were able to come back. 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.000 So I can see where people kind of have these 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.720 negative thoughts about dan Quinn joining the Cowboys and what 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:01.720 really can he bring to this defense. But the reason 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.360 I say it's a solid hire is because I think 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:07.040 if he can bring that simplicity back to the defense, 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.160 if he can just bring that I'm not saying that 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.120 exact same as Seattle, but to where it's look, the 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.360 offenses know what we're in, y'all just gotta defeat us. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.560 Because I think it will allow our players to play 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.159 a lot faster than they did last year. With Mike 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.200 Nolan's system, there was a lot of moving parts, a 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:24.240 lot of thinking pre snap and post snap, and I 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.240 feel like it confused our linebackers and confused our defensive line, 0:04:27.279 --> 0:04:28.680 and we weren't able to get the most out of 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.880 our defense. Those guys were playing slow. So I feel 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.120 like if he can bring that simple defense like Seattle 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:35.200 was doing back when they had the Legion of Boom, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.320 I feel like this players will run a lot faster, 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.040 and I feel like we can get more production out 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.720 of our defense and hopefully more splash players. But overall, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:46.640 I think it's a solid higher. Yeah, I agree. You know, 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.720 I gotta go with it because I picked him as 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.120 being one of the top hires for the Cowboys. And 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.400 I say this because I really believe that when you 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.200 get a guy who can focus solely on defense, and 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.560 they've proven that once they are able to focus just 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:05.240 on one phase of the game, they can be very, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:07.680 very good, that they can come here and do the 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.839 same thing. When he went to Atlanta, it was different. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:13.480 He had more responsibility, and it didn't work out for him. 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.800 And I say that you can use Wave Phillips as 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:18.600 an example when he was here with the Cowboys. When 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.200 I got here, they let him go in the middle 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.159 of the season, and then I brought up a tweet 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.640 that he showed that you can go from a four 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.240 three to three four and have success and have guys 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.960 on the Broncos plan, well, have guys on the Rams 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.560 plan well when you focus solely on defense. And I 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.520 think that'll be a renewal for dan Quinn when he 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.240 gets here because he'll be able to focus on what 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:39.720 we have currently on defense. And he actually has some 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:43.280 pieces accomparable to what he had in Seattle. When you 0:05:43.360 --> 0:05:45.719 when you look at Seattle's roster when they went to 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:49.640 the Super Bowl, they had Red Brian, Tony McDaniel, Brandon Kneebang, 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.359 Chris Clemens, Bruce Irvin. When you look at some of 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.279 those names, we have the Marcus Lawrence, we got Randy 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.040 Gregory before you got rid of, before Nolan got in here, 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.280 LV and jay Len Smith for two of the top 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:04.159 linebackers in the league. So when you look at kJ 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.960 writing and Bobby Wagner before Noland got here, you can say, hey, 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.159 these guys were sending to me guys like that. So 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:13.120 I think that that he has some pieces to work with, 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.800 something similar to Seattle, and he can get in here 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.880 and make these guys play to the best of the ability. 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.120 So I'm I'm drinking the kool ai. I'm sure that 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.480 the defense will be better hooding was last year because 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.839 we were a record of all time lowe. I'm not 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.920 drinking the kool ai. I'm not drinking it. I've been 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.240 fooled too many times through the years, man, so so 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.520 I'm just not gonna drink the kool aim. I will 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:41.080 say this. I once said it can't get worse, and 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:43.799 I watched it get worse. So I won't sit around 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:47.480 here and say that. But I will say this, at 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:51.599 least bringing in somebody who will run the scheme that 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.839 it fits this players. That's already a plus. He's a 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:56.840 four to three guy, so he will bring that here. 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.640 A couple of questions I have here. Number one, is 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:03.080 this defense still working discover three scheme they're trying to run. 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.880 Seattle's twenty second in the league at it right, that's 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:09.200 Pete Carroll where he came from. That defense this year 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:11.520 was not good and we saw how it didn't hold 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:15.240 up in the playoffs. The Chargers run the same defense. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.120 They were number ten in the league last year. Atlanta, 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:21.520 that's defense that dan Quinn's bringing over was number twenty nine. 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.720 The Cowboys were number twenty three in defense. So that's 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:26.640 my first question. Can this defense still work in twenty 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.240 twenty one? My other question, who's gonna be your safety here? 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:32.480 You got to have a quarterback out there. Earl Thomas 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:37.160 was outstanding for Dan Quinn in Seattle, and then Ricardo 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.000 Allen that was his guy in Atlanta. He was a 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.080 quarterback when they went to the Super Bowl that year. 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.600 He could be a cat casualty. He slated to make 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.840 eight million dollars in twenty twenty one. I don't see 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:50.400 that happening here. So Ricardo Allen is a guy who 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.480 could be free. We've talked before about one of the 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:55.840 problems I thought Mike Nolan had was he didn't bring 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:59.040 anybody in who could run his defense. So Ricardo Allen's 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.080 a name that the Cowboys need to be looking at here. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.720 Could they possibly bring him in here? Demantre Casey towards 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.840 Achilles last year, he's a strong safety. He is going 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.440 to be a free agent. That's another interesting name. You 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.040 talk about guys who can go ahead, some veterans who 0:08:14.120 --> 0:08:19.440 understand what Dan wants out of his defense. Um, Justin Simmons, 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:23.200 there's a free safety out there. Now, here's no problem. 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.559 Price and Simmons coming from Dan gonna be agent. Well 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.880 he's gonna be pricey, but oh, by the way, worse 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:32.760 than pricey. Todd France as his agent, das guy. So 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:37.400 I don't think that will happen. Okay. So so when 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:40.560 I talk about and then Danny, you already hit it 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.280 here because it's my other question about Dan Quinn. Where's 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.920 the defensive line? Um, dan Quinn is a defensive line. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.600 That's where he got his his his starter. So he's 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:52.199 a d line coach at heart, who's become a coordinator. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.880 The Cowboys have got to get better at that. Um. Yes, 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:57.160 we've talked about Tank Lawrence. He talked about Randy Gregory. 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.640 But up there in the middle they got problems. And 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:01.800 you had a Grady Jared in Atlanta when they went 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.800 to the Super Bowl, And obviously about Brandon me Baye. 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.520 You talk about Red Bryant, you had a Michael B. Benneman. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:09.079 You had some guys who could play up there in 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.760 that front with Seattle, and as great as their back 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.240 end was, the legion of boom was they could get 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.840 home with four guys. Right now, the Cowboys don't have 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.800 four guys who can get home. So My big question 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:22.720 with Dana. While I'm not drinking the kool ladies. While 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.720 he may be able to want to come in here 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.559 and put in this scheme right now, the carpenter doesn't 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:29.480 have enough tools. And that's something I got to see 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.400 the Cowboys go ahead and give him. All Right, So 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.079 we've touched on dan Quinn, let's add another piece to 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:38.960 this defense. They are bringing in Joe Jr. He's going 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.360 to be their passing game coordinator and he'll be a 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:43.960 dB coach. I'm not sure which dB coach is leaving 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:47.480 be at Maurice Linquist or Al Harris. Part of it 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.000 thinks Al Harris may stay because that's a guy who 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.600 Mike McCarthy had had a working relationship with any played 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:56.559 for Mike McCarthy. The thing I keep hearing about Joe 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.360 is that he's a teacher. And on the Players Suche 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.959 podcast brought you by Hotels dot Com, Danny and Barry, 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.560 you guys consistently talked about who's teaching these guys. Apparently 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.079 he's a teacher, which comes from Atlanta where he was 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:14.040 with Dan Quinn Andie previously coach with Mike McCarthy at Greenback. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.800 So I right there on that move. I like that 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.800 because at least the defensive coordinator has a guy who 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.160 can worry about the back end who he can trust 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.720 and knows the head coach can trust him too. And 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.440 then Quinn we know he can go ahead and help 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:30.640 operate on the front. And I think they'll be and 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.040 of course we know they'll be looking for a new 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.040 D line coach since it got rid of Tom Seueler. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:39.280 So mccraig, your thoughts are Jovid Junior coming in here. Listen. 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.120 I'm kind of indifferent to it, man, because I think 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:45.720 Dan Quinn's defense is simple enough, and I think that 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.640 he'll be focused enough to be able to teach it. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:50.120 I think it's a plus that you have a guy 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.320 with something, with that type of experience that you've already 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.719 coached with that knows really what you want and how 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.440 you want it to be taught. But I don't I 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.520 don't really know enough about the guy to say that 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:01.200 he's going to be head and shoulders over what we 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:05.000 currently have. But he's had some success in Cleveland, he 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.040 had some success in Green Bay, so you know, I 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.120 think he has has a good chance to be better 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.880 than what we currently have. But I'm not sure about him. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.760 We'll have to see. But I'm, like I said, I'm 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:18.840 all in on band Quinn for me. For me, they 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.880 have to if you're gonna bring in a guy like 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.040 Joe Witt and from what you said, knew it, he's 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:24.559 supposed to be like, you know, there's a teacher, this 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:27.480 guy who can, who can really teach the system in philosophy. 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:29.240 If they're gonna bring a guy like that, in which 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.360 they've already done, they're gonna have to keep Al Harris. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.280 They got to keep Al Harris because Danny, you can 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:37.720 attest to this when you're in the room, was simply 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.360 a guy that can is just a teacher and who 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.160 has never like really been out there in the field 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.719 and in the trenches. Guys don't really listen to that. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.400 I mean, we had a guy in our secondary room 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.320 by the name of Joe Baker. He was, you know, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.400 great friends with you know, Jason Garrett and all that, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.760 and he was a Princeton guy, and he was so 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.280 you know, smart, he knew all the X and o's, 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.480 and he could he was a great teacher of the game. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.840 But when it came to the on field, he just 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.080 didn't get it. He just didn't understand like that you 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:04.880 had to anticipate things, or why why aren't you standing 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:07.040 a yard outside the hash? You should be a yard 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:09.680 outside the hash. But your instincts keep kick in even 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:11.240 if you make the play and you're not where you're 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.440 supposed to be. He's upset about it. So to me, 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.720 they got to keep Al Harris in there, someone that 0:12:16.760 --> 0:12:18.960 the players can relate to, someone that the players can 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.480 go up there and say, hey, man, how did you 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.400 play this when you were here? You were a successful 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.400 corner in the league. How did you play this? And 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.600 I think guys will they'll they'll listen to listen to Wit, 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.199 but I feel like they'll relate more to our hairs. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.880 So I think they have to keep him in there 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.000 to keep that secondary room just accountable and just just 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.200 together as one. Because, like I said, Danny, you've been 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.840 there when it was just one teacher in there that 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:41.280 really never played the game. It's hard to keep veterans 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.400 and it's hard to keep guys attention like that. So 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:48.720 they gotta keep Al Harris if they're going to bring Oh, listen, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.199 this is why I said, I don't know enough about 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.120 the guy. And then you went out there and comparing 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:59.280 them to Joe Baker. Listen, I don't. I don't know 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:02.160 how girl, I feel about keeping anyone of the current 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:04.960 DV coaches that we have just based off what we've 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.440 seen last year. But like I said, we weren't able 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:11.520 to be as close as we usually are here here 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.079 what we usually hear from inside the locker room because 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.360 of COVID. So I'm not really sure who's really at 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:17.760 fault with it. But if you say we need to 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.680 keep Al, I'm cool with keeper Al. But I don't 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:24.000 think Joe Wit is anything like Joe Baker. Just looking 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.720 at the just looking at the photos and hearing the 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.440 pedigree that he had previously before he got here. I 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.560 don't think that's the same night shots against Joe Baker. 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.200 But we know he didn't play, uh you know so, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.200 so kind of that connection that you had as a 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.959 current and former player wasn't there. But I'm not gonna 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:49.319 compare him to Joe Wit. Goodness, one of the things 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.920 that I had had thought about with with Dan Quinn 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:58.120 and coming to the Cowboys and people talking about simplifying 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:02.600 the defense. When you run a quote unquote simple scheme, 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.679 you need great players, and I had I had some 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:11.280 conversations with John Randall Hall of Fame defense had been 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.360 played the Minnesota Vikings played for Tony Dungee. You know 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.320 that that that defense that he went on to Tampa 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.520 and took, and that Tampa two they had great players. 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:23.480 Now he had a Keith millarda front, had John Randall 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.160 up front. You had Chris Doleman. And then you go 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.560 and you look at another defense that Tony Dungee was 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.160 a part of. Tony played on the Steelers Super Bowl 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.480 thirteen team which included that steel Kurta and we talk 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.280 about just you know, a simple scheme, but you had 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:38.920 great players. You had Joe Green, jackham Mel Blunt, Donnie Shell, 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.560 and then that Tampa defense that he had helped build 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:45.640 down there, um had Warren Sat, Derek Brooks, Ronde Barber, Simeon, Rice, 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:49.360 John Lynch. So you want to run a simple defense, 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.200 you need great players. And you go back and you 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.840 look at the Atlanta team, the Dan Quinn coach that year. 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:57.200 They had a special defense and they had some really 0:14:57.240 --> 0:14:59.400 good players and the Jade Garrett big Beasley had a 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.560 good year. You had guys who made some plays. And 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.000 then of course we all know what they had in Seattle. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.280 The two super Bowl teams that Dan was a part of, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.360 one that won the Super Bowl, then the second one 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.440 they didn't win it. But it wasn't his fault because 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.920 it was the offense that lost that game, not the defense. 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:17.480 So that's where the Cowboys are at. You've got to 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:21.360 give the carpenter better tools. They do not have enough 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.880 right now, and that's going to be something that we 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.480 have to dive into. All right, let's take our first 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.600 go ahead. I'll about to say now listen, hold on, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.800 hold on it before we go, because I just want 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:34.480 to run through what we currently have and what we 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.200 think Dan clin could work with, all right, because I 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.400 know it seems like we don't have that many pieces. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.000 But if you look at the way he's able to 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.520 get get the most out of the players that he 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:47.560 has on the roster, like he did in Seattle. You 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:49.920 look at a guy like Tank Lawrence, you look at 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:52.360 a guy like Randy Gregory, you look at the up 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:55.800 and coming start Nevil Gallimore. That Church says, is there, Yeah, 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.600 the Treyn Diggs who has the potential to be a really, 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:01.920 really good corner if you get him in the right scheme. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.200 We all talked about Cedric Wilson and how he could 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.680 really be a good player if you got the right 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:10.160 coach around him and put him in the right position 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.800 to make certain plays. I think if you get guys 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.360 who are not necessarily all pros, but they know where 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.800 to be and they know how to hustle and make tackles, 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.360 which is what you have to do when you play 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.920 a predominantly his own scheme. You have to know where 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:26.360 to drop, you have to have your eyes on the quarterback, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.119 and you have to be able to have the instincts 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.840 to break and break and drive and make tackles. I 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.000 think that some of the players that we have on here, 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:35.120 I think he has enough to start with. Now you 0:16:35.120 --> 0:16:37.320 have to still have to go in and draft some guys, 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.920 but as far as having a starting point, I think 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.560 it's pretty bright for him. Okay, let's take our first break. 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:47.480 Kellen Moore has a job interview with the Philadelphia Eagles. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:51.240 Let's dive into that. There. He Scruggs, Barry Church, and 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.520 Danny mccraig are joining me. It is the players eye 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:55.560 who do it. 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