WEBVTT - Episode 50: A Special Message From Lisa

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<v Speaker 1>Up next The Truth with Lisa Mouth part of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is actually the fiftie episode of the Truth

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<v Speaker 1>with Lisa Booth. I launched this podcast about a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why I wanted to do it is

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<v Speaker 1>I got so frustrated during COVID. I felt like the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of the people on TV and in the media,

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<v Speaker 1>we're pushing fear, They're pushing lockdowns, They're pushing the scariest

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<v Speaker 1>information possible. I mean, we weren't hearing stories about people

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<v Speaker 1>surviving COVID, we weren't hearing stories about what the true

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<v Speaker 1>fatality rate was. We're just hearing fear. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to create a space where we can have honest

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<v Speaker 1>conversations that maybe you don't get in other places like

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<v Speaker 1>in TV or what you read in the news. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to provide an opportunity to bring on experts,

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<v Speaker 1>to bring on people who are really interesting, to bring

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<v Speaker 1>on people who have great insight and some of the

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<v Speaker 1>big things that are going on in our country. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we live in this era of censorship. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at what the left is trying to do,

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the media is trying to do, You

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<v Speaker 1>look at what big tech is trying to do. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look at how much they try to shut down information

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<v Speaker 1>about COVID. There's a time where you couldn't even say

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<v Speaker 1>that COVID likely came from the Wuhan lab. You couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say that. You would get censored. Big tech would censor you.

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter could kick you off, YouTube could shut down and

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<v Speaker 1>take down your video. The media would call you a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theorist. Even the same thing on vaccines, Look, we've

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<v Speaker 1>got vaccines that were produced in record time. Right, most

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<v Speaker 1>vaccines have five, five to ten years of safety data.

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<v Speaker 1>These have less than a year. But we can't ask

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<v Speaker 1>questions what kind of world is that? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>get to the truth and that sort of environment. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just the left, it's what we've got is

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<v Speaker 1>we've got government, We've got the people in charge pushing this.

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<v Speaker 1>The media comes in and it just pushes that prop aganda,

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<v Speaker 1>pushes that group to think, and then big tech comes

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<v Speaker 1>in and censors anyone that dare raises questions. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think this podcast The Truth with Lisa Booth is so

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<v Speaker 1>important because what we are doing is having those conversations

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<v Speaker 1>they don't want us to have. We're getting to the

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<v Speaker 1>truth in an era where they're trying to change their truth.

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<v Speaker 1>They're trying to rewrite what what words mean. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the CDC changed the definition of what it means to

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<v Speaker 1>be vaccinated. How insane is that? You've got the media

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<v Speaker 1>telling us that girls could be boys and boys can

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<v Speaker 1>be girls. We live in a crazy world. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I wanted to do this podcast, and we've done

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<v Speaker 1>some incredible things with it. I mean, my god, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to interview President Trump twice. President Trump, he

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<v Speaker 1>was my first guest. How cool is that? The legendary

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<v Speaker 1>John Voit, legendary actor who was incredibly nice. I I

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<v Speaker 1>so enjoyed that conversation with him, and he had so

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<v Speaker 1>much wisdom and kindness and just such an interesting conversation

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<v Speaker 1>we had with him. I recently interviewed Larry the Cable Guy.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot from him, you know, just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about could his persona could Larry the Cable Guy? Could

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<v Speaker 1>that that blue collar stick? Could that work? Now in

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<v Speaker 1>this era of wokeness and progressivism, I've been able to

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<v Speaker 1>interview people like Maximo Averis and talk about communism being

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<v Speaker 1>in America soil, American soil, someone who escaped communism, telling

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<v Speaker 1>us to be careful because communism has infected all of

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<v Speaker 1>our institutions. That was such a powerful conversation I was

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<v Speaker 1>able to have with him. I've interviewed Tucker Carlson, the

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<v Speaker 1>King of Cable Knew, someone who I deeply, deeply respect.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's the best in the business. He's so smart.

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<v Speaker 1>That was incredible to me to be able to interview

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<v Speaker 1>someone like him. I've been able to interview doctors throughout

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<v Speaker 1>COVID as well, to get you the truth about that

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you can't hear necessarily on TV or

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere in the media. I talked to Dr Pierre Corey

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<v Speaker 1>about I ever metten. I talked about vaccines, truthful information

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<v Speaker 1>about vaccines with Dr Martin Colder. If he gave us

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<v Speaker 1>a really unbiased, objective viewpoint answered all my questions. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I talked to him for like over an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was kind enough to take the time to

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<v Speaker 1>bring us the truth, to bring us the information that

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<v Speaker 1>we needed to hear. I gotta talk to Dr Scott Atlas,

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<v Speaker 1>who fearlessly has taken on people like Dr Fauci, Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah Burks, just really exposing the COVID Task Force for

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<v Speaker 1>for being really worthless and for bringing us to the

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<v Speaker 1>truth about COVID as well the things they didn't they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't tell us how damaging lockdowns truly were to society.

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<v Speaker 1>Also got to talk to j DR J Baticharia about

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<v Speaker 1>Omicron as well. We had the first post interview with

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<v Speaker 1>Betsy of Bas since leaving UH the White House's Education Secretary.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just so many incredible We've talked to athletes

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<v Speaker 1>as well, like Jonathan Isaac. I mean, just so many

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<v Speaker 1>incredible interviews, and it's been such an honor to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the truth with you, to dig in on some

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<v Speaker 1>of these critical issues. What really happened on January six

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<v Speaker 1>with Julie Kelly. I mean, this has been so much fun,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's been such an honor to be on this

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<v Speaker 1>journey with you, to learn with you, to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>some of these incredible people who I deeply respect, who

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<v Speaker 1>have great insight, who are so smart, and to learn

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<v Speaker 1>from them. And so I just wanted to let you

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<v Speaker 1>know that this podcast is continuing. It's just going to

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<v Speaker 1>be continuing with a different network in a few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>So just you know, sit tight, stay tuned, don't unsubscribe.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll get an update when the next episode is out.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are going to be re launching in a

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. So the podcast is not ending, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing ever, See you next time and see you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're probably gonna be going to twice a week,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's going to be exciting as well, to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a little bit more content with more guests. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm super excited about that. And so for for this

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<v Speaker 1>week's episode, it is just a little bit different. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go through some of my favorite interviews I've done,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're all my favorite interviews. I've interviewed some

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<v Speaker 1>credible people. But John, my producer, has a wife, he's

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<v Speaker 1>got kids, he's got other things that he's doing, so

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<v Speaker 1>I felt, you know, we'll tailor it down, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>narrow it down a little bit for him. But so

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna hear from my interview with Tucker Carlson, with

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, with Dr Scott Atlas, and with Maximal of

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<v Speaker 1>Veris and again I will talk to you guys very

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<v Speaker 1>very soon, just a few weeks from now, launching with

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<v Speaker 1>a different network. It's going to be huge and twice

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<v Speaker 1>a week, stay with us. Hey, everyone, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Truth with Lisa Booth. This is my first podcast, my

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<v Speaker 1>first episode, and I have a very very special guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you miss me at a lot of things going on?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, President Donald J. Trump is joining me, Mr President. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking today about preparing for this interview, and

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<v Speaker 1>it dawned on me that I am starting with the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest name I could possibly get, So it's pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>downhill from here. Well, I think you're doing so great anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you asked, I want to do it with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I turned down a lot of people, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it with you. I just appreciate everything you've done.

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<v Speaker 1>You're really a professional, great professional, and people have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of respect for your less So thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an honor. You know, I've been thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of your supporters right now, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like no one's fighting for us in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. You know, we're being maligned by the media.

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<v Speaker 1>I aligned by the left. Big Tech has shut off

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<v Speaker 1>your ability to communicate with your supporters. What's your what's

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<v Speaker 1>your message to them right now? What do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell them? Well, it is a very unfair situation.

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<v Speaker 1>They go after us at every level in the city,

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<v Speaker 1>and the states go after us. You know, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>the federal and you know, all these Muller investigations and

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<v Speaker 1>all of the nonsense that went on. It turned out

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<v Speaker 1>that it was Hillary Clinton. Uh, it turned out with Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Russia, Russia, Russia and Ukraine, and we the

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<v Speaker 1>impeachment hoax number one and number two. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you do all that and then you have the state

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<v Speaker 1>and local stuff they send it into them. It's a disgrace.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, it's a disgrace. It couldn't happen to

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<v Speaker 1>a Democrat. And yet we keep fighting and we were

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're very effective. We had a great election

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<v Speaker 1>and we won and they took it away. They they

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<v Speaker 1>it was a rigged election because as you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>won the first one, but we did much better in

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<v Speaker 1>the second one. So people always say, oh, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you mean you did better? I said, we did much

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<v Speaker 1>better almost sevention votes and that's the votes that we

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<v Speaker 1>know about. And it was really a terrible thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really an unfair thing to the people that

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<v Speaker 1>support us. So what's happened has been Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people have seen some silence. But actually, if you take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at what's happened over the last period of time,

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<v Speaker 1>we're sending out releases, they're getting picked up much better

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<v Speaker 1>than any tweet. And I'm doing things having to do

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<v Speaker 1>with putting our own platform out there that you'll be

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<v Speaker 1>hearing about soon. But even more importantly, any anything you

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<v Speaker 1>can tell me about that, well, I'll be telling you

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<v Speaker 1>pretty soon. But but you know, when I put out

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<v Speaker 1>a statement, it's much more elegant than a tweet, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it gets picked up better. You're seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>we put out statements from the President, etcetera, etcetera, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's getting picked up by everybody. Everything you say we say.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I endorsed somebody, because we're endorsing some very

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<v Speaker 1>good people, and if I endorsed somebody, it gets tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>pick up. I would almost say better than a tweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it goes on Twitter, because you know, thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>people pick it up and they put it on Twitter,

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<v Speaker 1>and they put it on Facebook, they put it all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place. So we're really having the voices. I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's been very big. I've only started doing

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<v Speaker 1>that over the last three or four weeks. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>the voices out there. I think, maybe in a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe as big as ever. And I've been reading the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the releases that you've been putting out. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've mentioned earlier about sort of the control,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that the left goes after conservatives. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scary right now because they essentially control every

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<v Speaker 1>institution in the country. You know, they've got the federal

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<v Speaker 1>government right now, they control big Tech, they control the corporations,

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<v Speaker 1>they're basically controlling the flow of information to the American people.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, at one point, we had the House, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we had the Senate, we had you in the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, why didn't we reign in big tech when

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<v Speaker 1>we had that chance. Well, they should have done it

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<v Speaker 1>Section two thirty. They should have done it. They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And now all of a sudden, the Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>are being in their protector. You know, they were never

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<v Speaker 1>their protector. They hated big tech. But now they have

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<v Speaker 1>the protector because you know, they figured they're getting the

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<v Speaker 1>advantage and big tech. But if you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>happened at the election, Mitch McConnell should have fought you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he did nothing. He should have fought, They would have fought.

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<v Speaker 1>They could never have had That could never have happened

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<v Speaker 1>to a Democrat. At what happened to us with the

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<v Speaker 1>presidential election, could never have happened to the Democrats. You

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<v Speaker 1>would have had a revolution if they did. If they did,

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<v Speaker 1>if the if the tables were turned, you would have

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<v Speaker 1>literally had a revolution. And guys like Mitch McConnell, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't fight. And now he's hanging by a thread. He's

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<v Speaker 1>hanging by a three at all, not really, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really want to talk to him. Look, he's hanging by

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<v Speaker 1>a thread right now with respect to the filibuster. And

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<v Speaker 1>if they get the filler, he's hanging on Joe Mansion,

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<v Speaker 1>who always goes with the Democrats. Joe talks, but he

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<v Speaker 1>ends up going with the Democrats. He's hanging by a thread.

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<v Speaker 1>And if they get the filibuster, if they knock it out,

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<v Speaker 1>it will be catastrophic for the Republican Party. Now there

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<v Speaker 1>is one thing that you can do, not show up.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Republicans don't show up. In other words, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no vote as I understand it, with fifty fifty, as

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<v Speaker 1>I understand it, the vice presidential vote doesn't count in

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<v Speaker 1>that case, so they can't get that through now. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know if the Republican if the Senate knows that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to know the truth, but if they

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<v Speaker 1>don't show up, Lisa, I hear that you can't take

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<v Speaker 1>of a it doesn't work. So that's a I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they may have to do that because they can't allow

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<v Speaker 1>if they knocked out the filibuster, they cannot allow this

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. The things that they're they're going to attack

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<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment violently, which I've told everybody they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to attack. Yeah, they're going to attack the Supreme Court.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't it be interesting? The Supreme Court has done absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>nothing for us in terms of the election. They haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done what they should have done. Wouldn't it be ironic

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<v Speaker 1>if they stacked the court? It would be rather ironic. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the amount of control they want to have

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<v Speaker 1>over the country is pretty terrify. I mean, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at things like HR one. But also I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to you about the border crisis and what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on there. You know, they obviously refuse to call it

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<v Speaker 1>a border crisis, but the US is on pace right

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<v Speaker 1>now to stop more migrants crossing the border, or more

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<v Speaker 1>migrants crossing the border than in the last twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>You had immigration under control. You had to remain in

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico policy. You're putting up a wall. You were not

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<v Speaker 1>doing catch and release, which is something Joe Biden is

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<v Speaker 1>doing now. So you had it handled. Is there any

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<v Speaker 1>advice that you would like to give Joe Biden on

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<v Speaker 1>how he should be handling the immigration crisis right now? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>finish the wall. Don't forget. We would delay two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years with litigation from the Democrats from Nancy

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<v Speaker 1>Pelosi and Congress, and we won those cases, but we

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<v Speaker 1>wasted two and a half years. Despite that, the wall

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<v Speaker 1>is just about finished, just little sections of the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Contractors are essentially paid, and they should finish the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a very little it could you could finish it

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<v Speaker 1>in a month, and it's impossible that they're not. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just crazy that they're not finished in the wall. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's one piece of advice. And then you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go back that week. You have to remain in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Mexico and I had a very good relationship

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<v Speaker 1>at I must say we had a great I have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect and like for the President of Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>They had their soldiers while we were building the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>They had seven thousand soldiers guarding the wall, guarding our border,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did a very good job. I must tell

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<v Speaker 1>you, you you know, they don't have the restrictions that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>They did a very very good job. But we had

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<v Speaker 1>it to a level that they say it has never been.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't. We got rid of all sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 1>including catch and release, all sorts of horrible things that

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<v Speaker 1>were that we had to live with. We got rid,

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<v Speaker 1>and the remain in Mexico. Right now, they're remaining in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States and they're never going to leave. And

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<v Speaker 1>we have no idea who these people are. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you when countries send people up, and they

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<v Speaker 1>do send them up, when they send them up, they're

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<v Speaker 1>not sending up their finest. Okay, they're not sending up

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<v Speaker 1>their finest. Uh. You have some very good people coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have some really bad ones coming to, really

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous criminals coming up, and we're allowing them to come

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<v Speaker 1>right into our country. It's insane and it's nothing compared

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<v Speaker 1>to what it's going to be over the coming months.

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<v Speaker 1>When you see it now. Enjoy it because it's much

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<v Speaker 1>better now when you see it in two or three months,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're just starting to come. They'll be coming up

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<v Speaker 1>by the millions. And we have no idea I mean

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<v Speaker 1>forgetting even about COVID and no testing, no nothing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're trying to get rid because we came up with

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<v Speaker 1>a vaccine, we're going to be hopefully in good shape

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<v Speaker 1>and then not due to the future. But these people

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<v Speaker 1>they're not being tested nothing. But they were also as

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<v Speaker 1>I said before, you have some very bad embres coming

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<v Speaker 1>up and we're taking him into our country and it's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>They're destroying our country, Lisa, they're destroying our country well,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's happening so fast. And for those at home

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<v Speaker 1>who don't The Remain of Mexico policy was such a

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<v Speaker 1>smart thing because essentially what happened was Central American silent seekers.

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<v Speaker 1>They remained in Mexico instead of coming into the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Because what was happening, and you know, in Mr President,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why you did this, which was so wise.

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<v Speaker 1>What was happening is these individuals were coming here, passing

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<v Speaker 1>that initial interview and then getting lost in the population

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<v Speaker 1>of legal immigrants living here, So they're using that as

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to get in and then disappear. So that

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<v Speaker 1>was so smart that you did, and you threatened with

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist and you've got Mesco Mexico to you know, step

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<v Speaker 1>up to the plate. But there's also this, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in January and February, border authorities accountered more than fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand unaccompanied minors. A migrant facility in Donna, Texas was

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<v Speaker 1>at s of its pandemic capacity this month. Are Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's immigration policies inhumane? Well, they are a you mean,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's happened is people that are living in their

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<v Speaker 1>countries and that's where they've been and in many cases

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<v Speaker 1>that's where they ultimately want to go back to, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can believe it. But people living in their countries

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<v Speaker 1>are coming in. And these are not just countries in

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<v Speaker 1>South America, Latin America. These are now countries where you

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<v Speaker 1>look and you look at the Middle East. We have

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East owners coming in. We know nothing about them.

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<v Speaker 1>We have things happening that and we had it in

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<v Speaker 1>such good control two months ago, three months ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he made the statement that you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>you want to come in and everybody just started marching

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<v Speaker 1>up and the country has had a lot to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it. So one of the things I did was

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<v Speaker 1>it was impossible to bring them back to Guatemala, Honduras

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<v Speaker 1>and San Salvador, El Salvador, San Salvador, and you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>bring them back. You couldn't get it back no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened is I said, look how much money

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<v Speaker 1>we paid those countries, five hundred million dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped payment, and all of a sudden they took

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<v Speaker 1>them back. In other words, we capture Ms thirteen. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you take a look at El Salvador as an example,

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<v Speaker 1>or or any of them, and other countries too, they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't take them back. So I stopped payment. As soon

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<v Speaker 1>as I stopped payment, they gladly took him back. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>ever done that before. Nobody ever talks about it, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, how simple is it, but nobody's ever done it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I stopped paying the five hundred million a year

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<v Speaker 1>to the three countries, the triangle as we call them.

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<v Speaker 1>I stopped paying it. Once I stopped paying it, they

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<v Speaker 1>said we'll take them back. They would literally round them

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<v Speaker 1>up for me. They would round them up bring them

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<v Speaker 1>to Honduras, bring them to bring them to Guatemala, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would say, turn around, we're not taking them back.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they take them back, but now they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to again. So he's paying and we don't get anything

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<v Speaker 1>for We give them a lot of money and we

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<v Speaker 1>get nothing but disrespect. And we had it down to

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<v Speaker 1>an absolute science. It was. It was a beautiful thing

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<v Speaker 1>to see and frankly, what's happened. And even Mexico, I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't if we don't make a deal, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't help us out, we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>put tariffs on all of the products that you sell

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<v Speaker 1>to the United States because they have a big surplus

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<v Speaker 1>with the United States. So we're gonna have to put

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<v Speaker 1>a terraphone. As soon as I said that they were great,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were great. We had a great relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico and the other countries because they didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>have either tariffs imposed or they wanted to get some

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<v Speaker 1>of the money. And and you know, and I also

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<v Speaker 1>gave them back us but we gave them we stopped

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<v Speaker 1>payment on all of that money that was pouring in,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden they took the MS thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>people back, and they took the people that we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>out of our country back. So people don't talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>They never talked about that, But that's what happened, and

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<v Speaker 1>we never had it so good. And you know when

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<v Speaker 1>they when they released them in our country, they go

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<v Speaker 1>into our country, they never we never find them again.

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<v Speaker 1>They never come back. Okay, when they never come back,

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<v Speaker 1>a very tiny percentage comes back. They say we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>release you in the country and you'll come back in

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<v Speaker 1>two years for a legal case. That's the end of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Very few people show up. It's it's ridiculous. So we

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<v Speaker 1>had a thing where we keep them in Mexico. We

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<v Speaker 1>got upheld in the courts meeting positively, so all of

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<v Speaker 1>these people were staying in Mexico. What that did is

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<v Speaker 1>it forced Mexico not to let them in on their

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<v Speaker 1>northern border, so they wouldn't let them in. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>sort of working for everybody. And then these people came

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<v Speaker 1>alone and they just ended everything. And now they to

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<v Speaker 1>be flowing in by the millions, already started very substantially.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's ever seen it as bad as it is now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really good compared to what it will be in

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<v Speaker 1>a few months. We certainly don't see this same pressure

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<v Speaker 1>from the media, the same sort of lies that they

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<v Speaker 1>were telling about your immigration policies being applied to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration here. But no, I wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you you've mentioned COVID early or so, you know. We

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<v Speaker 1>it's been over years since the fifteen days to slow

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<v Speaker 1>the spread, and Dr Fauci has drawn the ire of

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of conservatives like me, uh and also Senator Rampaul.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen a lot of his exchanges in the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>with Dr Fauci. You know, he's flip flopped on masks.

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<v Speaker 1>He was wrong about the travel bands. He basically told

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<v Speaker 1>us at the beginning to not worry about COVID. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you regret ever elevating him? Well, I didn't really elevate him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been there for forty years, he's been there forever,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought rather than firing him, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>listened to him, but I didn't do what he said

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<v Speaker 1>because frankly, his record is not a good record. I

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<v Speaker 1>like him personally. It's actually a nice guy, is a

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<v Speaker 1>great promoter. He's really a promoter more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>And Uh, I think he's you know, I always say

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<v Speaker 1>he's a better pitcher of a baseball than he is

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<v Speaker 1>at what he does, because he was wrong so much.

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<v Speaker 1>If I would have listened to him. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>he said no masks, and very importantly, he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to have China stopped from coming in. If we would

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<v Speaker 1>have done that, we would have had hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of more deaths in our country. And if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at what we've done, you know, we don't get fair publicity.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we've done, we've supplied. You know, the cupboage

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<v Speaker 1>were bare. We had nothing from the previous administration, and

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<v Speaker 1>we got all of the gowns and all of the

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<v Speaker 1>masks and all of the uh, if you take a

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<v Speaker 1>look at the machinery, the equipment that you need, it's massive.

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<v Speaker 1>We took care of everything, and we really did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job. But we stopped so many But the big

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I did is the vaccine. Because the vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of people expected we're gonna lose

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<v Speaker 1>two point two million people, and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a number six stantially lower than that. But the big

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I did for the world, not only is

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the f D a I said, fellas

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<v Speaker 1>it's over, this is going to go fast. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken five years for another president, a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Biden would have taken five year, taken five years for

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<v Speaker 1>the vaccine to be approved, and it would have never

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<v Speaker 1>been approved. I think they would have had it. It

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<v Speaker 1>would have you know, goes from five to twelve years.

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<v Speaker 1>I got it done in nine months, and they did

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<v Speaker 1>not like me. I will tell you that they did

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<v Speaker 1>not like me. In statutorily, they had to do things

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way. They were I ended all I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we need have Actually we got it done in nine months.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they disliked me so much that it was

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<v Speaker 1>approved like two days after the election because they could.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, the only one that dislikes me

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<v Speaker 1>more of the drug companies, because what I did with

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<v Speaker 1>favorite nations and everything else. If Biden keeps my policies,

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<v Speaker 1>drug prices will come way down to the lowest in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, will be tied because the favorite nations. That

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<v Speaker 1>means we will match the lowest price in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>which is much lower for the exact same drug with

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same pill. So the drug companies that took

0:23:06.000 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars of advertisements against us, against me, and

0:23:10.400 --> 0:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I had to do what was right.

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Nobody else would have done. Favorite nations against the drug companies.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they leave that in place, and I did

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<v Speaker 1>other things like transparency and other things, but you know,

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the people, I think I know the people love it.

0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:27.399
<v Speaker 1>The problem is they won't see it for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>If they allowed my policies to stay, we'll have tied

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<v Speaker 1>for the lowest drug prices anywhere in the world. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be great. But Faucci has been so wrong, so as Burkes.

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.320
<v Speaker 1>They've been so wrong. And if I would have listened

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<v Speaker 1>to them and then they went to the other extreme,

0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>like the entire country should lock up, I didn't go

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and you know, it just wasn't for me.

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't go for that. And if you look, you

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<v Speaker 1>know I allowed governors like Rhonda Santis, who has done

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<v Speaker 1>a great job, and in texas As they've done a

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>really good job, and uh in South Dakota. But many

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>many place is I allowed them to keep open if

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.159
<v Speaker 1>they want, if they want to know, the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>shut down are the ones that are doing the worst.

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>You look at New York, you look at California, the

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.280
<v Speaker 1>ones that shut down are the ones that the states

0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>that have done the worst. It's sort of amazing, to

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:16.920
<v Speaker 1>be honest, if you look at it, but they've done

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<v Speaker 1>really terribly. They've ruined their economies, they've ruined their states,

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>and then numbers aren't better. In fact, the numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>worse than the ones that have been much more open.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Mr President, I know you've got I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take up much more of your time. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've got a busy day, but it is such

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.200
<v Speaker 1>an honor to talk to you. You're welcome here anytime.

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have you back on the podcast,

0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and it is beyond an honor to have you as

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<v Speaker 1>my very first guest on this podcast. So I just

0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>want to thank you for taking the time. Thank you,

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>and Lisa on behalf of a lot of people. Thank

0:24:50.000 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you for everything. Your voice has been incredible, it's been strong,

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're definitely not afraid, and that's something that we need.

0:24:57.160 --> 0:25:00.359
<v Speaker 1>So we need more of that. And it's to do

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<v Speaker 1>your first your first show, and you're gonna have many.

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.879
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna do very well because you're somebody that people

0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.200
<v Speaker 1>respect greatly. Thank you very much, Lisa, Thank you, sir,

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.360
<v Speaker 1>that means the world coming from you, I really appreciate it.

0:25:11.600 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed that with President Trump. We're going

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>to take a quick commercial break and then back with

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:22.639
<v Speaker 1>my interview with Tucker Carlson on the other side. This

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<v Speaker 1>is episode eighteen with my colleague and I think the

0:25:26.760 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 1>smartest person on television, the great Tucker Carlson. You're probably

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<v Speaker 1>subject to the most criticism in the country in terms

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.200
<v Speaker 1>of as being a journalist. Why do you think that is? Oh,

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, you know, because I'm in the way.

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess I don't have perspective on it. I mean,

0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm very against the Internet. You know. I try

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>not to spend any time on the Internet if I

0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 1>can help it. I think it's disgusting, you know, you know,

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm really thrilled that, you know, we can

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.600
<v Speaker 1>get up to the moment weather updates, but like, overall,

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 1>the internet has been like the worst thing that ever

0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>happened to the world. And clearly and um so I'm

0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>just not on it that much. I never go go myself,

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I would never do that. And and more broadly, I'm

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested like truly and I'm not just saying this,

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean it, Ask anyone who lives around me. I'm

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 1>not interested in in the opinions of people I don't respect.

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm deeply interested in the people I love and care

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:25.200
<v Speaker 1>about and their opinions. If my wife looks at me

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>cross side it, you know, it brings me to my knees.

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I really care what the people I love

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:34.159
<v Speaker 1>to think very much, and I will immediately change my

0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>behavior if they tell me too. But like somebody at

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.439
<v Speaker 1>the Daily Beast, I don't, you know, why would I

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>care what they think? I really don't. I mean, and

0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean that, oh, you're a Nazi, you're a what

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:46.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, you quoted Martin Luther King, So you're a

0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>white supremacist. Okay, you know it's this is so dumb,

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.920
<v Speaker 1>like why do I care? So it doesn't have any

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:56.679
<v Speaker 1>effect on me at all, like literally none, and so

0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it's like to me, it's like it's not even happening.

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say what I think is true. If I

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>say something that's cruel or unfair, you know that people

0:27:06.520 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>I respect will tell me immediately and I I'll apologize

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 1>and stop doing it. But like the criticism of people

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>who you know, work for Jeff Bezos and want to

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>defend the existing order like I don't give a ship

0:27:19.880 --> 0:27:22.400
<v Speaker 1>at all, and I really don't either. You know, we've

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:25.640
<v Speaker 1>seen probably one of the biggest transfers of wealth over

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the past year, and you know, the shuttering of small

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>businesses which are more decentralized in the centralized power with

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:37.159
<v Speaker 1>large corporations, as well as obviously the government growing larger.

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 1>H in addition to that, you know, where where does

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that head? And what does that mean for a country,

0:27:43.119 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, both economically and just as a nation at large.

0:27:46.040 --> 0:27:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But what about racism? What about racism? What about transgender rights?

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, all of the debates that are sort of

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 1>forced on us from above, racism, oh shut up, transgender right,

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's like nine people. All of them

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>are recover for the real debates, which are mostly about economics,

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>not not exclusively, but the big ones are about like

0:28:08.600 --> 0:28:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the role of the central bank. And in a normal country,

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what you would be debating because that that really

0:28:14.600 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 1>does matter. But we're not having that debate at all.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, you're seeing a complete transformation of the U.

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:25.160
<v Speaker 1>S economy complete two. And this has been a middle

0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 1>class country literally middle class country. The majority of people

0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 1>fall into the you know, as determined by the Labor Department.

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.000
<v Speaker 1>But in the income range that we call middle class,

0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the majority were middle class. Two fifteen, the middle class

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>becomes a minority in the country becomes and this has

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.720
<v Speaker 1>accelerated this trend way more lopsided. Small number of people

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>control a larger percentage of the assets, and that makes

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the country really unstable, not just this country, in any country.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>That's how Venezuela went from this kind of nice place

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>I went there as a kid to you know, this hellhole.

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 1>They're eating zoo animals and you know, Maduro's in charge,

0:28:59.840 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Like because that concentration of wealth in a democracy provokes

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a response, and it provokes radical populism and they break everything.

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>So like, that's a really bad trend. It's one of

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the worst possible trends. But we don't even discuss it.

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 1>And why don't we discuss it because the people who

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>control the conversation, you know, who control the tech companies

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.240
<v Speaker 1>and the and the TV networks, I don't want to

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>have that conversation because they're on the winning end of it.

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>So Trump said something he once Trump stunt super reflective

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 1>as you know. But he did say something I never forgot,

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, the one thing that people don't

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>like the system, our system doesn't like in this country's

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 1>economic populist. And they really don't. You know that We've

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>never had since Teddy Roosevelt. We have not had a

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>president including Trump by the way, um, who is an

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>economic populist. But most people kind of like the basic

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>ideas of economic populism. So what does that tell you

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>if for a hundred years people don't get the one

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 1>thing they want, maybe the system isn't very responsive to

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the public. Maybe it's not really a democracy, you know

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>what I mean? No, I mean it makes sense. And

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, of course, everything ultimately is about, you know, control,

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 1>and that's why obviously they want larger corporations and government

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>control and socialism and things of that nature, because it

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>empowers the people in charge for real. Last question of this,

0:30:25.000 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 1>this is something that you encourage people that you know,

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>get married, have kids. Why Why is having a strong

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>family unit almost counterculture? Now? Well, because it runs contrary

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to corporate interests. I mean, feminism is just like a

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>pure corporate propaganda, you know, telling And I have three daughters,

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>so I think about this a lot, but like telling

0:30:45.880 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>girls that somehow more virtuous and fulfilling and meaningful to

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 1>work for some soulless corporation in the HR department of marketing, marketing,

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 1>whatever the funk that is marketing, uh, than it is

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to raise your own children. Like who thought of that first?

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Personal It's like so ridiculous. Anyway, this is this is

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>the Ryl Sandberg wrote a whole book on this. She

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people like her have been making

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>this case for fifty years that you're just you're gonna

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.960
<v Speaker 1>be a lot happier if you work for some big

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 1>company than if you have a personal life. And it's

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>such a lie that they can only maintain it with

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>like maximum hysteria. You know, men are terrible. You don't

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>want a man, right, okay? And you know having a

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>man and having a family, having little kids you have

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to deal with makes you a less reliable employee. So

0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 1>of course they're going to say that the amazing thing

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>is we believe that this is a liberation movement. You're

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>so liberated you get to, you know, commute to midtown

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 1>sitting r meetings. That's not like that's liberation. So the

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:54.920
<v Speaker 1>truth is like you know, getting married, having someone who

0:31:55.040 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you love and loves you back, and who is loyal

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 1>to you and you're loyal to you know, like the

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 1>happiest thing in life having children? Are you kidding? It's

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>the most meaningful thing you can do. It's not the easiest,

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 1>it's not always the most fun, but it's it's certainly

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the most rewarding. It's the thing that you know, it's

0:32:11.000 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>all that matters really in my opinion, And so like

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, well, you know it matters. What

0:32:17.320 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>really matters is I don't know, going to sat Barts

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>or having more sex partners really do They don't really

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 1>think that makes you happy. Now, It's like absurd, It's

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>totally absurd, you know. I tell her, I think back

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:37.040
<v Speaker 1>before I became afraid to the time at work, I

0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 1>m PBS or just you know, in the past thirty years,

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>as in television, where I've worked for twenty six years,

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I would always tell the women on it because it's

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 1>like heavily women, because they're amazing producers and they're like

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 1>incredibly hard working, like in a way just candidly that

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot of men aren't. You know, people like to

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.960
<v Speaker 1>hire women. That's true because they're like awesome them, you know,

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>can you do this? Absolutely? And they do it. It's

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>crazy and so but the problem is that companies take

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>advantage of women, and women don't kind of complain about

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it because they're so dutiful. These are generalizations, but they're

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 1>generally true. And so I would always take the women

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>on our staff aside and be like, you know, you're

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>so awesome and you're great, but like, you know, don't

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>forget that this is just a TV show and in

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the end, you know, you want to live out your

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>life with like someone who really loves you, and like

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.080
<v Speaker 1>if you want children, you should have them, and don't

0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:34.440
<v Speaker 1>let your loyalty to this job, you know, convince you

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:36.479
<v Speaker 1>to miss your own life, like take time for your

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>personal life. I would always say that. Now I'm like

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>afraid so I get fired for saying that again. I

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>don't know what would happen. I don't say that anymore,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 1>but I always did because I meant it, And I

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>wish a woman would say that to America. You know,

0:33:49.240 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>it's a lie working for City Bank or you do

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you think City Bank cares about you know, you know,

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>who cares about you? Like your husband would care about

0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>your kids, would care of you, your dogs care about you.

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 1>City Bank does not care of about you. So Fox

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>City Bank, that's how I feel about it. Yeah, I

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:04.760
<v Speaker 1>mean I do. I totally agree with you. And this

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>is something I've been grappling with over the past year

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of you know, I've put so much emphasis on work

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.799
<v Speaker 1>before and you know, wanting to look towards having a

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>family and find the right person and get married and

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>do that whole thing, because it's almost as if society

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>we've redirected people away from things that actually have meaning

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>in life and purpose in life, like religion, like families,

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and directed it towards things that are completely empty and

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>unfulfilling and bring unhappiness and sadness. It's twisted. Yeah, but

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 1>you get to go to Burning Man for a week,

0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>so it's all worth it, you know, And you know,

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 1>you get your little nappod in the Google break room

0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 1>and like, you know, you get free score bars, so

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're good, You're very psyched, and you can

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>order in lunch and the company will pay for it.

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Like if those are your rewards or you make three

0:34:51.920 --> 0:34:54.680
<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand a year, Wow, that'll make you happier three

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>million or thirty million a year. I mean, it's it's

0:34:56.719 --> 0:35:00.400
<v Speaker 1>all such a lie. And and I mean I can

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 1>say because I'm one of the few people I know

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 1>who's like, you know, I ran out of money at

0:35:04.160 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>one point how to sell my house with fork and

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 1>then I made a lot of money, and so I've

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>been kind of both ends. And I can tell you know,

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 1>debt is bad, being poor is hard. Not having enough

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>money is hard. But making more than you need does

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>not make you happy. It just doesn't. That's a lie.

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I think we all sort of know that,

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:26.719
<v Speaker 1>but let me just say it again. That's a lie.

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 1>What makes you happy are your relationships or your commitments

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.919
<v Speaker 1>to other people, not your random relationships, like your deep relationships,

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 1>the one that's that you sacrifice for the ones you're

0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.879
<v Speaker 1>connected to for life. The person will be buried next

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.919
<v Speaker 1>to what that matters, and nobody says it. I don't

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 1>understand why, but you know, as noted, I just don't care.

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to because why wouldn't I know? I

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>think it's important, which is why you know, I wanted

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:51.919
<v Speaker 1>to bring it up, because you know, I do think

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.759
<v Speaker 1>we're turning young people towards things that are completely meaningless

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and empty, and social media, of course draws people inside

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:01.240
<v Speaker 1>and away from those interpersonal relationships, which is the basis

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 1>and foundation of happiness in society. Anything else you want

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>to leave my listeners with before we go, well, just one,

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just on this topic. I can't control myself. I

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>just had this conversation with my wife yesterday, so it's

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>just like the top of mind, but we're talking about,

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:18.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, happiness and unhappiness or whatever. And I thought,

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and I thought this before, but it really struck me. Ester.

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I don't think I've ever been unhappy in

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>my life except because of self pity. I honestly don't

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 1>think I have. I mean, I haven't had a ton

0:36:30.160 --> 0:36:32.200
<v Speaker 1>of you know, bad things happen to me. I've had

0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>a really happen nice life, easy life, really. But the

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:39.080
<v Speaker 1>times where I've been unhappy, it's been one because I

0:36:39.120 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 1>felt sorry for myself. One d you know, poor me,

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And I thought, well, what

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is the root of self pity? And of course it's narcissism,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, It's it's thinking about it's obsessing over yourself,

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 1>and that that really is the root of unhappiness, and

0:36:57.800 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>so anything that pulls you deeper in to yourself. And

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.240
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I would say self knowledge is really important,

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and that's a different category. Understanding who you are and

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>what you want, what you're good at, Like those are

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:13.400
<v Speaker 1>key qualities. Absolutely, it's key skills that you need to master.

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:18.279
<v Speaker 1>But self obsession is a different thing. Narcissism is a

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>different thing. And you know, get out of yourself. I mean,

0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 1>just do whatever you can to get out of yourself.

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>Not even for moral reasons, so I think those apply,

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but for practical reasons. You'll be happier the less you

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>think about yourself, Like stop googling yourself, stop taking your

0:37:33.360 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 1>fucking self piece, like get off your phone, talk to

0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>other people, worry about them. You'll be way happier if

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you do that. And this is like so obvious. I'm

0:37:41.360 --> 0:37:43.720
<v Speaker 1>embarrassed to say it, but it just struck me yesterday,

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:46.880
<v Speaker 1>like just in me. You know, when I think about myself,

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I become unhappy. It's true, I think, and I think

0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.600
<v Speaker 1>it's true for everybody. Well, I actually had accidentally left

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 1>my phone at home when I went away for a

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>weekend in the Keys, and it was like one of

0:37:57.120 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the best weekends I've had because I was completely connected

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it I'm saying, but it was really it was sad.

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>It made me really sad about what dominance or phones

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 1>have on our lives. I was so happy, I was

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.960
<v Speaker 1>so in the moment, just truly enjoying things in a

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>way that you don't when you're checking work emails or

0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:16.279
<v Speaker 1>on this or that, and it. I mean, it's almost like,

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 1>I think we'd all be a lot happier without you know,

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>these cell phones, without social media, all these things that

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>take us away from the real moments in life and

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, those relationships and the things that really matter

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>and happiness. Yeah, I'm not going to recommend Ted Kaczynski's

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.320
<v Speaker 1>second book, the one who Wrote from Prison, because that

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>would be too radical for your listeners. But but let

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 1>me just but I just want to get it out

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>there for those who are interested, you know, maybe check

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 1>it out. But um, I would say, yeah, technology, we

0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>have not we have not grappled with the effects of it.

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we had the we had the industrial Revolution,

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and it caused you know, political revolutions, it caused Marxism,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, around the world, and now we've had this

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.439
<v Speaker 1>digital revolution. We're pretending that like, oh, everything is kind

0:38:58.440 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>of the same. No, no, no, no, no, there are

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>consequences of this are um are are yet to be visible,

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:07.880
<v Speaker 1>but they're going to be really, they're gonna be profound.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I would say, obviously, did to make another obvious point,

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 1>which is my specialty? No, that's how your specialty. Uh, Tucker.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you making the time for my podcast.

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>It means a lot, and it was thank you for

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>having I'm the biggest Tucker Carlson fan. I hope you

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 1>guys are too quick. Commercial break, and then back with

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:32.960
<v Speaker 1>my interview with Maximolaveris on the other side. I love

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 1>this episode. It was episode seven with Maximo Alveries. He

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>fled communist Cuba to come to America and he warns

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>us about how communism has infiltrated all of our institutions. Listen. So,

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>when I was thinking about all these concerns that honestly

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 1>come to mind to me every single day, I'm constantly

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>worried about the direction or country is heading, constantly feeling

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.880
<v Speaker 1>like communism is at our doorstep right here in America.

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<v Speaker 1>So in thinking about all this and thinking about who

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.360
<v Speaker 1>to have on the show, was a guest. Maximo Avaris

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:05.919
<v Speaker 1>came to mind. You all at home might remember him

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>from the Republican National Convention, and he gave an incredibly

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>emotional speech talking about his journey, talking about escaping, fleeing

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:20.160
<v Speaker 1>communist Cuba and coming to America at age thirteen. He

0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>has had a tremendously successful career in the oil industry.

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>He is the founder and heads Sunshine Gasoline. So he

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 1>is the epitome of the American dream. And if there

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>is anyone who knows how quickly a country can lose

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 1>its freedom, it's Maximo. So that's what we're gonna talk

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to him about today. Maximo, thanks so much for coming

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>on the Truth with Lisa Booth. It's such an honor

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you today about freedom. And we're also neighbors.

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 1>So I just I actually just like left New York

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.440
<v Speaker 1>City to to move to Florida for the primary reason

0:40:51.480 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 1>of wanting to come to a free state. Welcome, thank you,

0:40:55.480 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you. Sorry, I'm in Miami. I love it. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>So Maximo at the RNC convention, and you know, you

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:03.399
<v Speaker 1>talked about your story. You fled Cuba at the age

0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of as part of Operation Pedro Pan. What do you

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 1>remember about Cuba, Well, I remember what's revidly about Cuba,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of the things that you know amazes me.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>People did not know that Cuba in the fifties was

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:28.320
<v Speaker 1>pretty much another state of our great United States of America. Uh.

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>We're an independent country, of course, but we enjoyed the

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:38.280
<v Speaker 1>same standard of living. Our currency was at the same

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 1>value of the American dollar. It's a matter of fact,

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the Cuban peso circulated as much as the dollar. We

0:41:48.160 --> 0:41:51.320
<v Speaker 1>had all of the benefits that you have in the

0:41:51.400 --> 0:41:56.320
<v Speaker 1>United States. Just to give you an idea, when General

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Motors would put out the cars to the mark let's say,

0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>let's say in October September, a month before they were

0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:10.720
<v Speaker 1>already sent to Cuba, where a lot of American people

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>will go to Cuba by an automobile right around, send

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:18.400
<v Speaker 1>it in the ferry and not pay the taxes. So

0:42:18.520 --> 0:42:22.319
<v Speaker 1>you could buy a Chevrolet or the Forward or any

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>vehicles just about for the less that you could buy

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 1>in the United States. Because you said the taxes. Cuba

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 1>was what it is at the time in the fifties,

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:41.840
<v Speaker 1>similar to what it is Las Vegas today. People tourism, flourish,

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>people went there to have a good time. As a

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, you could just you know, fly to

0:42:47.760 --> 0:42:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Cuba in less than an hour goal and stay the

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:56.759
<v Speaker 1>weekend in hotels just as luxurious as the ones in

0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Miami and the ones in New York. So that's the

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 1>cube that I remember. I also remember our education, which

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:12.719
<v Speaker 1>he was really impacted. And this is the biggest impact

0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that we had when we lost our country. I remember

0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 1>how my mom, when I didn't behave, used to threaten

0:43:26.040 --> 0:43:30.759
<v Speaker 1>me that if I didn't behave the next day, I

0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:35.320
<v Speaker 1>would not be allowed to go to school. That was instant,

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>because oh my lord, I couldn't miss school. As a

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:43.320
<v Speaker 1>matter of fact, I don't remember what ever missing school

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>one day. I remember going to school when I had

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a fever and we had a stomach ache. I wouldn't

0:43:48.480 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 1>tell my mom because I was afraid I was going

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to be left at home. And that is the things

0:43:55.400 --> 0:43:58.359
<v Speaker 1>that we remember that all of a sudden, from one

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>day to the next, everything changed. My school was confiscated,

0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>all the private property was taken away. People were getting

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:16.840
<v Speaker 1>killed against a wall. They were running trials in mass

0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:20.840
<v Speaker 1>trials because they didn't have enough time in the day

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to execute people. So you go to trial at nine

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:26.000
<v Speaker 1>o'clock in the morning, you get convicted at ten at

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:33.000
<v Speaker 1>eleven o'clock against the wall, no appeals, nothing. Our system

0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 1>was pretty much the same as the one we have

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>here in the United States, and all of a sudden

0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>that change. I remember crying and being upset because as

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Castle takes over, my friends were marching in the streets.

0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Did you and our revolutionary kids a moment that wouldn't

0:44:58.120 --> 0:45:00.319
<v Speaker 1>let me do that? And I remember, as I want

0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 1>to be with my friends, these are my neighbors. This

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>is the same kids to go to my school. Thank god,

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:12.959
<v Speaker 1>Mom and Dad knew because they understood communism because many

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:17.720
<v Speaker 1>years before they migrated to Cue are running away from Spain.

0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:24.680
<v Speaker 1>So I have that in my blood because not only

0:45:24.719 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I learned from Mom and dad, which when you're young,

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't seem to pay much attention to that, but

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:35.720
<v Speaker 1>then it happened to me. Also it happened to them,

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>and it happened to everybody who has ever come to

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>this country looking for one thing, which is called freedom.

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:49.319
<v Speaker 1>And you know why I'm so sad today because I

0:45:49.320 --> 0:45:52.960
<v Speaker 1>saw this coming. I not only said it in that

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.800
<v Speaker 1>speech at the convention. What I've been saying this before.

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I started saying that when all of a sudden we

0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 1>had a low passing us in our country, that you

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 1>couldn't say the prayer in school, that's the beginning. That's

0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:15.080
<v Speaker 1>how they do. I saw it when when you will

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>be offended because you were called a name. I saw

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it when when you have to be politically correct. I

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:31.240
<v Speaker 1>saw these things coming and every time there's a shooting,

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:35.879
<v Speaker 1>how they want to take your guns away. I saw

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>it when when even the Catholic people say nothing against abortion.

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:55.800
<v Speaker 1>But this is something that really hurts because very few people,

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I for one, who had never imagined that this country

0:47:00.760 --> 0:47:06.439
<v Speaker 1>would be vulnerable to communism. But long the whole, if

0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:10.800
<v Speaker 1>you go back in history and you hear the speech

0:47:10.880 --> 0:47:15.880
<v Speaker 1>that Nikita Krushchev said, I think it was nineteen at

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the United Nations. By the way, Nikita Kruschev, for those

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:20.840
<v Speaker 1>of you who may not know, it's the equivalent of

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>putting today in Russia. And he had visited the Fidel

0:47:24.560 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 1>Castro in Cuba, and then he went and gave a

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>speech at the United Nations. And in that speech he says,

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 1>one day the United States of America will be communists

0:47:38.040 --> 0:47:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and we will not even have a war. We will

0:47:41.440 --> 0:47:48.320
<v Speaker 1>infiltrate their education, will infiltrate your society, will infiltrate the youth.

0:47:49.000 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>And I want to play this clip for the audience

0:47:51.880 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>from your RNC convention, and then um, I want to

0:47:55.239 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>ask you a question after it. Let's play this. I

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>have seen people like this big for I've seen movements

0:48:02.440 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>like this before. I've seen ideas like this before, and

0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I am here to tell you we cannot let them

0:48:11.040 --> 0:48:15.760
<v Speaker 1>take over our country. I heard the promises of Fidel Castro,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can never forget all those who grew up

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>around me, who looked like me, who suffered and starved

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and died because they believe those empty promises. They swallowed

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the communist poison pill. Sir, as we're listening to earlier,

0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:40.560
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about communism coming to hear on the American soil.

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:43.280
<v Speaker 1>As we just heard your RNC convention, you had talked

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>about how people in Cuba had swallowed the communist poison pill.

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 1>Have Americans swallowed the communist poison pill? Not only they

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:56.719
<v Speaker 1>have swallowed, they digesting it. Listen to the media. They're

0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:00.720
<v Speaker 1>no longer objective. You can tell how much they hate

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:05.839
<v Speaker 1>this country. Look at our our academia. Our kids are

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:11.280
<v Speaker 1>not being did in doctrinated. They are thought that America

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 1>is a bad country. There were a bunch of racists,

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 1>that we're bad people and we'll have to pay back.

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:22.919
<v Speaker 1>If this country was racist, I wouldn't be here. If

0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:26.760
<v Speaker 1>this country was a racist country, most of us willn't

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 1>be here because even some people in your family came

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>from another country. This country was made of immigrants. That

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:38.799
<v Speaker 1>we have racist people in this country, of course we do.

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Do we have bad people, yes we do. Do we

0:49:41.520 --> 0:49:43.839
<v Speaker 1>have bad teachers, yes we do. Do we have bad

0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>police people, yes we do. But con'mpling the country for

0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>that because we have a justice system that will penalize

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:54.360
<v Speaker 1>you and punish you if you are a bad person,

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:59.680
<v Speaker 1>if you are a racist, But don't don't make our

0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>would then believe that we have to pay back because

0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>America is a bad country. And this is what it's

0:50:07.960 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 1>so sad. Whenever we make a donation, most people who

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:17.720
<v Speaker 1>make donations try to find out where is that money going,

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Who are you helping? What is the American Cancer Society,

0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 1>or whether it's your church, or whether it's a politician.

0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 1>You have much money they're sending into black lives matter,

0:50:31.160 --> 0:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>and people don't want to understand that these three ladies

0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>to control this company are bragging about Marcist learninism, their communists.

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:46.920
<v Speaker 1>They tell you that, and nobody understands what that means.

0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>And then you have people who are supposed to be

0:50:54.280 --> 0:51:00.320
<v Speaker 1>role models to our kids who tell you, I'm afraid

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>when I left the house in the morning because I

0:51:02.520 --> 0:51:07.399
<v Speaker 1>happened to be black. Really, are you afraid that you're

0:51:07.400 --> 0:51:10.560
<v Speaker 1>making three million dollars in this racist country for shooting

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the basketball? Isn't that sad? And then when you have

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:20.719
<v Speaker 1>a black person to tell you, ay this in this

0:51:21.080 --> 0:51:24.520
<v Speaker 1>our problem is ours. What is the thirteen year old

0:51:24.600 --> 0:51:26.279
<v Speaker 1>kid doing out in the streets at two o'clock in

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:30.480
<v Speaker 1>the morning with a gun? Was mom and dad. The

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 1>police officer didn't go there to kill that kid. The

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.759
<v Speaker 1>police officer went there because somebody called made a call

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>in distress, somebody who's being robbed or hurt, and the

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 1>police officer went there. It just happens there was a

0:51:45.080 --> 0:51:49.400
<v Speaker 1>bad police officer made a mistake. Okay, that's fine, but

0:51:49.600 --> 0:51:52.600
<v Speaker 1>that kid is not a hero. That whole lump is

0:51:52.640 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>not a hero. How can you, hi, dare you? How

0:51:56.080 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>can you give somebody's family million dollars before the trial.

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I think from the pressment of the country trying to

0:52:05.480 --> 0:52:09.920
<v Speaker 1>influence a trial, the congress woman influence and trial. Just

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:13.720
<v Speaker 1>think about dot That is all communism, quick commercial break

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:19.080
<v Speaker 1>back on the other side, So I loved being able

0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to interview Dr Scott Atlas. He really uncovered how much

0:52:23.640 --> 0:52:29.160
<v Speaker 1>government failed us throughout COVID. He put Dr Burke's Dr

0:52:29.200 --> 0:52:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Faucci on blast, really exposing their weaknesses and how moronic

0:52:33.600 --> 0:52:36.959
<v Speaker 1>they are to be perfectly honest, and also got into

0:52:36.960 --> 0:52:39.799
<v Speaker 1>all the failures with things like lockdowns when the data

0:52:39.840 --> 0:52:42.640
<v Speaker 1>showed otherwise. I hope you liked this one too with

0:52:42.760 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 1>Dr Scott Atlas. This was episode thirty nine. You talk

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>about how the human cost of lockdowns was never discussed

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 1>by the task task Force and ignored by Dr five

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and Dr Burkes. Why was that ignored? I mean you

0:52:55.200 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 1>would think that their job would be to take the

0:52:57.520 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 1>totality of the situation into a out. That's right. I

0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:04.640
<v Speaker 1>mean there was a gross what I call a gross

0:53:04.680 --> 0:53:09.040
<v Speaker 1>failure of morality in the public health leadership when you're

0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:14.640
<v Speaker 1>leading public health interventions. What they did was they considered

0:53:14.719 --> 0:53:18.200
<v Speaker 1>one and only one illness. Stopping COVID nineteen cases at

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:21.640
<v Speaker 1>all costs. To me, that's just a gross failure. That's

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.560
<v Speaker 1>not what appropriate public health policy is. Public health policy

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 1>must take into account the totality of impact of health

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:35.440
<v Speaker 1>from the policy itself. You can stop all cases of

0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:39.919
<v Speaker 1>COVID if you killed everybody for instance. Okay, of course

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.800
<v Speaker 1>this is ludicrous. I'm just pointing out something sort of

0:53:42.960 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>to the absurd extreme. The point of a public health

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>policy is to take an account also what you're doing

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to people. And we see from the data that they

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a study from UH in June, from

0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Rand Institute and USC that shows that the the lockdowns

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>didn't just fail. The lockdowns increased the dusk. The earlier

0:54:04.680 --> 0:54:08.160
<v Speaker 1>the lockdowns were put on, the more deaths occurred. When bess,

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:12.120
<v Speaker 1>we're falling and lockdowns were implemented, that's increased. And this

0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:15.080
<v Speaker 1>is analysis of forty three countries and in all of

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the states in the United States. I think it's a

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 1>highly important paper to read from June, and so yes,

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it was a gross failure. In fact, this is why

0:54:25.160 --> 0:54:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't We had the wrong people advising UH policy.

0:54:29.840 --> 0:54:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Don't forget Dr Burke's was the task Force coordinator, so

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>that means she was the official voice and head of

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:40.720
<v Speaker 1>the medical policy. She wrote all of the policy advice

0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to all the governors that were the official policy of

0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the White House, the task Force, and she visited dozens

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:50.279
<v Speaker 1>of states, and you know, with those visits all these

0:54:50.280 --> 0:54:54.960
<v Speaker 1>public health officials. I visited one state, Florida. Unfortunately, the

0:54:55.000 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 1>lockdowns were implemented. They succeeded the Burke Spouchy lockdowns were

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:03.600
<v Speaker 1>successfully transmitted to the governors who implemented them throughout most

0:55:03.640 --> 0:55:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of the country throughout the entire year of and they failed.

0:55:08.400 --> 0:55:11.240
<v Speaker 1>They failed to stop the spread, they failed to protect

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the elderly, and they destroyed families. And I've said this

0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.759
<v Speaker 1>many times, but it's so important because this is the

0:55:16.760 --> 0:55:20.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest failure of public health policy and modern history. Well yeah,

0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think it's the you know that the

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest failure of the media. I mean, it's just I

0:55:24.560 --> 0:55:28.240
<v Speaker 1>don't think people really realize we've just had a complete

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:32.560
<v Speaker 1>reshaping of American society throughout COVID, from the role of

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the federal government and our lives to the role of

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 1>the media, place loss of loss and trust of institutions.

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean there's just been a complete and total societal breakdown,

0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that's been fully discovered yet. You

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.239
<v Speaker 1>talk about too, like another big aspect of this was

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>just getting kids back to school, right, these low risk kids,

0:55:51.120 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>of allowing them to live their lives. And you talk

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 1>about like, even in the presence of actual data, that

0:55:57.560 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 1>people like Fauci, Berkes and Redfield were so resistant to

0:56:01.200 --> 0:56:04.680
<v Speaker 1>getting these kids back in school. Talk about that, sure, well,

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I distinctly remember, of course, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>uh one of the earliest Task Force meetings that I

0:56:11.120 --> 0:56:14.520
<v Speaker 1>went to, which was I think, you know, mid mid August,

0:56:15.239 --> 0:56:19.400
<v Speaker 1>and the Vice President who was administratively running the Task Force,

0:56:19.960 --> 0:56:23.360
<v Speaker 1>had wanted me to talk about the risk to children

0:56:23.600 --> 0:56:26.800
<v Speaker 1>these are these schools opening. And I went through the data.

0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I had brought with me more than a

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:31.879
<v Speaker 1>dozen papers in my briefcase, and I pulled them out

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and I went through. I cited the data from all

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>over the world on the extremely low risk to healthy children,

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 1>the extremely low risk of transmission from children, and the

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:46.759
<v Speaker 1>documented lack of high risk to teachers in schools from

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:48.920
<v Speaker 1>all over the world. And I went through a little

0:56:49.000 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, let's just say five to ten minutes on this,

0:56:51.880 --> 0:56:56.240
<v Speaker 1>and there was silence from Dr Burke's, silence from Dr Fauci.

0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:58.440
<v Speaker 1>There was no refutation of what I said. They didn't

0:56:58.480 --> 0:57:02.000
<v Speaker 1>cite a single study. And the Vice President turned to

0:57:02.160 --> 0:57:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Dr Redfield and said, well, what do you think, Bob,

0:57:06.040 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and Redfield leaned back, thought for a second. He said,

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>let's just say the jury is still out. That was

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of the discussion. I mean, you know, this

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:20.520
<v Speaker 1>is no scientific uh knowledge about the data, nothing to

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>refute what I said. And then you know that this

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of was very confusing to the public because and

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:31.320
<v Speaker 1>harmful the advice. As we know, the schools in the

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:33.840
<v Speaker 1>United States were closed in the fall term. All the

0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>pure nations in Western Europe opened the schools. We were

0:57:38.480 --> 0:57:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the outlier. The American educational system was a complete, really

0:57:45.240 --> 0:57:49.680
<v Speaker 1>immoral abuse of children by shutting down schools, and they

0:57:49.760 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>had impact. The isolation was extraordinarily harmful. I mean, the

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 1>way I think of it, there's nothing more important that

0:57:57.280 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 1>a society does and educate its children. Yet we chose

0:58:01.440 --> 0:58:04.720
<v Speaker 1>out of fear and ignorance, and in my view it

0:58:04.840 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 1>was too with this uh miss misinappropriate idea of protecting

0:58:10.040 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 1>adults by using children, sacrificing children even though the children,

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.280
<v Speaker 1>healthy children, did not have a significant risk from COVID

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's been proven, that was known then. It's not

0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>new information, by the way, So you know this is

0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:28.480
<v Speaker 1>really it's almost unspeakable what was done. Well, you know

0:58:28.520 --> 0:58:30.840
<v Speaker 1>they're doing that now with vaccines as well. You know,

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.800
<v Speaker 1>even children who aren't at risk. They're essentially, you know,

0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 1>trying to to push kids to to get them, which

0:58:36.920 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 1>sort of defies logic. In my book, Um, so I

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:41.920
<v Speaker 1>thought you'd get a kick out of this. So Political

0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Political Playbook wrote about how Faucy was at a Jonathan

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Carl book party, and it notes that he kept taking

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the mask on and off for cockers who are trying

0:58:52.400 --> 0:58:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to take pictures of them with it out his mask on,

0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:56.840
<v Speaker 1>and then when asked about it, he said, I just

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>decided that if anyone came up to me that I

0:58:59.080 --> 0:59:01.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't know, I would put my mask on. Doesn't that

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:06.439
<v Speaker 1>summarize the theater surrounding masks and also explain Fauci a lot. Well,

0:59:06.760 --> 0:59:09.400
<v Speaker 1>let's hits with this. Anybody who thinks that that makes

0:59:09.440 --> 0:59:13.560
<v Speaker 1>sense is I mean, you know, I don't want to

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:15.880
<v Speaker 1>be rude, but I mean That is just ludicrous. I mean,

0:59:15.920 --> 0:59:18.680
<v Speaker 1>what what is the what is the basis of putting

0:59:18.720 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>on a mask because you don't know people. If it's

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just to uh have an image, I think that it's

0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.959
<v Speaker 1>very revealing. I mean, let's put it this way. It

0:59:29.000 --> 0:59:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was not uncommon. I heard the people on the task force,

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.920
<v Speaker 1>the doctors on the task force, refer to people in

0:59:34.960 --> 0:59:38.240
<v Speaker 1>the media, their media friends by the first name. Okay,

0:59:38.280 --> 0:59:41.680
<v Speaker 1>this is you know, when I was speaking about the data.

0:59:42.200 --> 0:59:45.480
<v Speaker 1>The result of that was not talking back to me.

0:59:45.880 --> 0:59:49.160
<v Speaker 1>The result of that was going outside to their friends

0:59:49.200 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and the media and using ad hominum attack and distorting

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 1>my words. So this was sort of all about the image,

0:59:57.000 --> 0:59:59.040
<v Speaker 1>the power. I don't know what was going on. I

0:59:59.040 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>hate to ascribe motive, but there was a gross failure there,

1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 1>and I think this is really uh, we can never

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:09.880
<v Speaker 1>let this happen again. We cannot have people who aren't

1:00:09.920 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 1>critical thinkers, uh, you know, in charge of a crisis.

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean that this should goes without saying, but I

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:22.000
<v Speaker 1>mean this was just a shocking failure. And and you know,

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:24.680
<v Speaker 1>they got what they wanted, which were the lockdowns, and

1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the lockdowns failed. So now we're seeing this or welly

1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:31.520
<v Speaker 1>in attempt to rewrite history, blaming people like me who

1:00:31.520 --> 1:00:34.680
<v Speaker 1>were opposed to what was implemented for the failure of

1:00:34.680 --> 1:00:38.919
<v Speaker 1>what was implemented. You know, this is just another kind

1:00:38.960 --> 1:00:41.600
<v Speaker 1>of thing that shows I mean, it's important for people

1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:43.560
<v Speaker 1>to understand who are listening. I'm sorry I'm going on,

1:00:43.680 --> 1:00:48.080
<v Speaker 1>but when you see people who are issuing erratic statements,

1:00:48.200 --> 1:00:51.320
<v Speaker 1>who are obviously just saying, oh, it's the science, but

1:00:51.360 --> 1:00:53.400
<v Speaker 1>they don't know the science, or they're doing things that

1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:56.560
<v Speaker 1>are contrary to science, this is how you decide who

1:00:56.600 --> 1:00:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to trust. You must be a critical thinker. Now, the

1:00:59.400 --> 1:01:03.400
<v Speaker 1>burden is on individuals, okay, all of us to become

1:01:03.440 --> 1:01:08.800
<v Speaker 1>more involved in our own critical thinking, in our own beliefs,

1:01:08.840 --> 1:01:12.240
<v Speaker 1>in short of our own filter here to decide what

1:01:12.440 --> 1:01:15.720
<v Speaker 1>is credible what isn't. It's more of an effort but

1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:18.920
<v Speaker 1>to trust. The blind trust in people who are deemed

1:01:19.160 --> 1:01:23.160
<v Speaker 1>experts should be gone. That should be gone. We've learned

1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:25.960
<v Speaker 1>that now. Uh, it's not you know, I don't know

1:01:25.960 --> 1:01:29.400
<v Speaker 1>if I said this, but you know, we all need

1:01:29.440 --> 1:01:32.040
<v Speaker 1>to be critical thinkers here to make the best decisions

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:34.960
<v Speaker 1>for ourselves and our family. Well, and our MASK policy

1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:37.480
<v Speaker 1>has always been done because I mean, who thinks it's

1:01:37.480 --> 1:01:39.720
<v Speaker 1>a good idea to wear one when you enter a

1:01:39.760 --> 1:01:41.640
<v Speaker 1>restaurant and then you take it off when you're seated

1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:43.560
<v Speaker 1>next to people, or to wear it on a flight,

1:01:43.680 --> 1:01:45.800
<v Speaker 1>as we currently do, and then take it off when

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<v Speaker 1>you're next to people. I mean, none of it has

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<v Speaker 1>ever made sense, yet they continues to be pushed. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what is the data and the science say about masks?

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<v Speaker 1>Do they work? Okay? So you know in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>widespread population mass. Uh, there are several good studies out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and people should look at the good studies. The best study,

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<v Speaker 1>the randomized controlled trial of Denmark shows uh. They took

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<v Speaker 1>more than six thousand people. They took people with masks

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<v Speaker 1>and people without masks. They tested them by blood test

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<v Speaker 1>for not just stars too, but other eleven other viruses,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found that people that wear masks do not

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<v Speaker 1>have a significantly less incidents of stars to infection. Neither

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<v Speaker 1>do they have a less lesser incidence of any of

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<v Speaker 1>the other eleven viruses. By the way, and this corroborates

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<v Speaker 1>what was known in the randomized trials about influenza that

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<v Speaker 1>was published by the CDC in May that mass general

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<v Speaker 1>population masks do not prevent the spread of infection or

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<v Speaker 1>the becoming infect that the recipient side of it in influenza.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that relevant because influenza is the same size

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<v Speaker 1>as roughly as the stars to virus, which is smaller

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<v Speaker 1>than the poor size on the mask. Smaller the virus

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<v Speaker 1>is smaller in the hole in the mask. Secondly, we

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<v Speaker 1>look at the other studies, look at that Denmark. The

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<v Speaker 1>next study to look at is the University of Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>did a very detailed analysis of all the states and

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<v Speaker 1>their conclusions were that mask wearing mask mandates did not

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<v Speaker 1>stop the spread of infection, and mask wearing did not

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<v Speaker 1>stop the spread of infection in states. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the next UH paper that came out, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the study that received a lot of attention on

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<v Speaker 1>Bangladesh villages. And then you know, people were you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is after a year and a half, they're still

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<v Speaker 1>desperately trying to find something that validates masked widespread mask using,

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<v Speaker 1>and they look at this Bangladesh study which was a

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<v Speaker 1>study where villagers were instruct some villagers some villages were

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<v Speaker 1>instructed to wear masks, other villages were not instruct that

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<v Speaker 1>the wear masks and what the authors reported was an

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<v Speaker 1>eleven percent decrease in symptomatic COVID in villages that were

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<v Speaker 1>instructed to wear mass, not in the mass wears necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>Just so they said there was a small decrease in

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<v Speaker 1>symptomatic COVID. And when you look at the data and

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<v Speaker 1>the studies, not only was that effect small, but the

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<v Speaker 1>only people they had to reduce incidence of symptomatic COVID

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<v Speaker 1>were people in a single age bracket fifty and above.

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<v Speaker 1>People forty to fifty didn't have a decrease, People thirty

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<v Speaker 1>to forty didn't have a decrease in symptomatic COVID. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have to wonder did the people who were older,

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<v Speaker 1>were they more cautious, did they avoid groups that they

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<v Speaker 1>do other things that might have reduced it. The second

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<v Speaker 1>part of this that was the surgical mass site. The

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<v Speaker 1>regular mass of people wear, by the way, had zero

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<v Speaker 1>significance in terms of its reduction. So the study was

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<v Speaker 1>lauded in the lay media by these mask uh MASK

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<v Speaker 1>advocates as proving mass work, but the in fact it

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<v Speaker 1>was supportive that mass do not have a significant impact

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<v Speaker 1>on limiting a spread of COVID, and so enough in

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<v Speaker 1>the infection. So I mean, you know, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this new study that came out recently, and basically that's

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<v Speaker 1>just a meta analysis of a bunch of studies in

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<v Speaker 1>which they in this article admitted that the studies themselves

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<v Speaker 1>were poor research. Yet somehow this is now the title.

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<v Speaker 1>So people are desperate, Okay, masks. I'm not for forbidding masks,

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<v Speaker 1>just like I'm not for forbidding wearing a copper bracelet

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<v Speaker 1>for arthritis. If you want to wear a mask, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to wear a six masks, that's fine, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's very dangerous to say what Dr Redfield said under Oath.

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<v Speaker 1>He said two things, and this is in my book

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<v Speaker 1>Under Oath. He said, where if everybody wore a mask,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd get rid of the pandemic in six to eight weeks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just completely nonsense, and it's been proven all over

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<v Speaker 1>the world, including societies where people are wearing masks. Secondly,

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<v Speaker 1>he said he held up a mask and infamously said,

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<v Speaker 1>this mask is more protective than a vaccine. Now, why

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<v Speaker 1>is that a problem. First of all, it's it's completely

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<v Speaker 1>irrational and bizarre. Second of all, it's dangerous if you

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<v Speaker 1>think that an old person whose high risk is more

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<v Speaker 1>protected by wearing a mask. You're endangering them if they

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<v Speaker 1>think that, and so, uh, you know, this is very dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>The misstatements coming out of some of our most trusted

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<v Speaker 1>public health leaders are shocking. We saw it publicly. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw it inside the task Force, as I note multiple

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<v Speaker 1>times multiple conversations in the book. And I think again,

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<v Speaker 1>we've destroyed the trust that is necessary for people when

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<v Speaker 1>a crisis arises, and so we have a long way

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<v Speaker 1>to dig out from that hole that was created by

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<v Speaker 1>these people in public health leadership. Dor Scott Outlas just

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<v Speaker 1>bringing the fire and bringing the truth on the truth

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<v Speaker 1>with Lisa Booth. I want to thank all of you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening from the bottom of my heart. I love

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. I love interviewing people, and I love being

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<v Speaker 1>able to bring this information to you. And I learn

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<v Speaker 1>a lot too just having these conversations with all these

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<v Speaker 1>different guests. I've learned so much over the past year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I truly love doing this. I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>the next step. I can't wait to bring you additional

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<v Speaker 1>episodes when we move over to another network. So stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned for the big relaunch with some truly awesome guests

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<v Speaker 1>and also with more content. And I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>my team, my producer, my Ride or Die throughout all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, John Castio. He's a great guy. He has

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<v Speaker 1>done a great job on this show. I also want

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<v Speaker 1>to thank Speaker New Gingrich, executive producer of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and the three sixty network for giving me this opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>over the past year. You can leave us five star

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