WEBVTT - Episode 168 | Dr Umar Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>The special guests in the building. We got a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I really, really really couldn't wait to speak to,

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most polarizing figures in our culture.

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<v Speaker 1>We got doctor Wumar Johnson in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going, Peace and Love, black Man, thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>having me on the show, on the podcast, Peace and

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<v Speaker 2>Love to the entire Black Tennessee and especially to Black Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad to be back. That's a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Now tell me you know, first, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to chop it up about a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different things. I want to ask you first, what brings

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<v Speaker 1>you to Nashville.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my second visit to Nashville. First visit was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen or fifteen Fists University Jam packed, sold out

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<v Speaker 2>FIST University Gymnasium, was just overwhelming. I did not know

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<v Speaker 2>that I had that type of love in Nashville or

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Tennessee. So this is my first visit

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<v Speaker 2>since then, only my second, and I'm here to celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth annual Soul Day, Nashville Sol Day, which will

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<v Speaker 2>be at East Park tomorrow twelve or five, and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be speaking food, fun, family. You know how the outdoor

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<v Speaker 2>events go and I loved the outdoor events because you

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<v Speaker 2>can get some of that sun, get some of that

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<v Speaker 2>energy is you know, you don't have to be all

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<v Speaker 2>pent up in the inside. But thanks to the host

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<v Speaker 2>of the Soul that they brought me on down. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad to be back. Facts facts, facts, and we

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<v Speaker 2>welcome you. Like I said, it's a lot of love

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<v Speaker 2>in Nashville.

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<v Speaker 1>For you, like from the YouTube views to people just

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<v Speaker 1>knowing who you are, just respecting what you stand on

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<v Speaker 1>or on the contrary, but either way, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that knows who Umar Johnson is. And I'll

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you. Anything you need again while you're here, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>of assistant. So if you got anything, thank you, like

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<v Speaker 1>reach out to me. And that's a fact. I'll help

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<v Speaker 1>in any way I can. And so what's on the

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<v Speaker 1>agenda for you? What what's on your mind? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Right now, probably the biggest project I'm working on

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<v Speaker 2>is the Frederick Douglas Marcus Garvey Academy. We purchased two

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<v Speaker 2>buildings in Wilmington Day this past February. As you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have been raising money for four years, almost five years,

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<v Speaker 2>so we were blessed the most high blessed us. We

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<v Speaker 2>were lucky enough to not only get one building, but

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<v Speaker 2>two of them in Wilmington, Delaware, in the Black side

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<v Speaker 2>of the city. So right now we're just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>raise a million dollars to restore those buildings. We actually

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<v Speaker 2>have a campus, two schools, and then plus two other buildings.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we can raise a million, we can do

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<v Speaker 2>the whole campus. If we can get half a million,

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<v Speaker 2>we can do two of the four buildings. And if

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<v Speaker 2>we can only get a quarter million, we can referbish

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<v Speaker 2>at least a small school building, which will allow us

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<v Speaker 2>to get started until we raise enough money to take

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<v Speaker 2>care of that big building.

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<v Speaker 1>So what takes priority. Let's say, if you do get

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<v Speaker 1>the quarter mean, do you know where you want to start?

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<v Speaker 2>The small building and we renamed that the Honorable Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>Garvey Building and the large school building, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>mecca that like, once we get that one up and done,

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<v Speaker 2>that'll be the one stop shop for the whole community.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're calling that the Honorable Frederick Douglas Building. So

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<v Speaker 2>my thinking is my logic, get the Garvey Building done,

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<v Speaker 2>you can get started with your second, third, fourth grade Academy,

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<v Speaker 2>that give you a couple of years to show and

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<v Speaker 2>prove to the community that you're not playing. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>get the money for the Frederick Douglass building, and now

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<v Speaker 2>you got your whole k to twelve.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you were coming up with the school, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a very very long journey. That was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things happening. You also spoke about the Mary and

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<v Speaker 1>was it the woman's side kind of the woman's.

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<v Speaker 2>Schol the Anna Douglas Amy Garvey Academy. I got your

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<v Speaker 2>adag Yes, the beauty of the Wilmington campus. Because we

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<v Speaker 2>have two schools, we may be able to introduce the

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<v Speaker 2>female academy sooner than originally planning, because I only thought

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<v Speaker 2>we would get one building. Yes, we have two buildings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I believe that we'll probably be bringing the young

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<v Speaker 2>women in sooner than originally scheduled. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say win, because if I say win, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hold me to it. So all I'm gonna say is

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<v Speaker 2>I anticipate having the girls at the school within two

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<v Speaker 2>to three years. Oh, for sure. We can't lead the

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<v Speaker 2>girls out. We can't lead it. I have two daughters myself.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't lead the girls out. But the reason I

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<v Speaker 2>start with the boys because everywhere I go, and I

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<v Speaker 2>know they're gonna ask me tomorrow, why are you only

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the boys? The way I see it, taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of black boys is also taking care of black

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<v Speaker 2>girls because the number one challenge of the black woman

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<v Speaker 2>is what finding a suitable mate who can protect and provide.

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<v Speaker 2>So if we're building black men from the ground up

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<v Speaker 2>who have the ability to protect and provide for their queen,

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<v Speaker 2>are we not taking care of the women as we

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<v Speaker 2>take care of the men.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're you're putting a mate there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're putting them in solid You're putting the mate there

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<v Speaker 2>that's solid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And so when you when you

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<v Speaker 1>started this school thing, and like I said, the journey

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<v Speaker 1>you went on, what steps is it for you to

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<v Speaker 1>get the school recognized in regards to the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it depends on the state. Good question. Remember the

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<v Speaker 2>United States Constitution does not afford anyone the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>get an education. The word education is not even in

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<v Speaker 2>your constitution. The United States Department of Education was founded

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen eighties, so it's only been around forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>So education, as much as the propaganda would suggest is

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<v Speaker 2>not a priority of the United States government. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a movement to eliminate the United States Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Education because there's a lot of white folks who say,

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<v Speaker 2>why am I paying taxes for a service my constitution

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<v Speaker 2>does not obligate me to pay. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>more than half of all white folks either do not

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<v Speaker 2>have do not have school aged children anymore, or send

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<v Speaker 2>their school aged children to private.

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<v Speaker 1>School, so they don't need the government, They don't need

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<v Speaker 1>the exact struction.

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<v Speaker 2>So their question again is why do I have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay taxes for not only something my constitution does not require,

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<v Speaker 2>but something that me myself do not need. You see,

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<v Speaker 2>so in your lifetime you may see where there's no

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<v Speaker 2>longer a United States Department of Education. Getting back to

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<v Speaker 2>the question, every state is different. Let me compare two

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<v Speaker 2>for you, Delaware in Pennsylvania, I live in one, the

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<v Speaker 2>school is in the other. Right. In Pennsylvania, because it

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<v Speaker 2>is a commonwealth and one of the oldest education states

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<v Speaker 2>in America, they have a very intense bureaucratic private school process.

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania needs to approve your private school curriculum.

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<v Speaker 1>Before they approve the school, before.

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<v Speaker 2>They approved the school. They want to see what you teach. Right, Delaware,

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<v Speaker 2>you still have oversight, you still have to be accountable,

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<v Speaker 2>you still have to register, but it's not as intense,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a blessing for us. Why because our curriculum

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<v Speaker 2>isn't something that they're going to be looking to approve,

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<v Speaker 2>so we need that freedom, which is why I would

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<v Speaker 2>say I believe it was divine intervention at the school

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<v Speaker 2>ended up in Delaware, not Philadelphia.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to ask, because did you

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<v Speaker 1>think about that because it was a lot of schools

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<v Speaker 1>you had in your scope, Hey, we got one. I

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<v Speaker 1>just found one, Like we need to get down and

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Let's get it. And it's like that school's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think about that when you were doing that or.

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<v Speaker 2>Did I did it? Did just happen. But I did

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<v Speaker 2>think about that as well, because there's a school in

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<v Speaker 2>my neighborhood North Philadelphia. Okay, I'm from the same neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>as Jill Scott, Bill Cosby meek Mill lived right across

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<v Speaker 2>the streets of friends with my younger brother. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know him personally, but I remember him. Okay, same block

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<v Speaker 2>eighteenth and Burks. I wanted to get a school in

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<v Speaker 2>that neighborhood, Catholic school for sale. But the realtor practiced

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<v Speaker 2>real estate racism on me, lied and told me that

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<v Speaker 2>the school was not available to be sold. Yet I

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<v Speaker 2>found out later that he lied right. I didn't press

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<v Speaker 2>the issue because in him lying, that brought me time

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<v Speaker 2>to come and learn that the school that I originally wanted,

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<v Speaker 2>the Delaware School, was now going to be offered to

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<v Speaker 2>me with the monies that we had. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>if the realtor in Philly didn't play the race card

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<v Speaker 2>and try to keep me from getting that squad, I

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<v Speaker 2>would have bought it right, which means we would have it.

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<v Speaker 2>That would have need to been restored as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>on top of restoring the school, you now got to

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<v Speaker 2>play politics with the Pennsylvania Department of Education. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the divine intervention, the ancestors said, uh uh,

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<v Speaker 2>because that state already got you and broad and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>they definitely ain't gonna try to give you the approve

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<v Speaker 2>of to do your school because not to cut you off.

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<v Speaker 1>Why you were doing that, I did see that they drill.

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania State Board of Education charged me with presenting myself

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<v Speaker 2>as a licensed psychologist without a license. Right, I've never

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<v Speaker 2>claimed to be a licensed psychologist because I never pursued

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<v Speaker 2>the license. In other words, I'm not somebody who took

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<v Speaker 2>the tests and failed it. I never went for it,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly because I'm a certified school psychologist. Right, you have

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<v Speaker 2>school psychology, which is the special ed umbrella, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you got clinical psychology, which is everything else your mental illness.

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<v Speaker 2>My doctorate is clinical, but I'm certified in school. And

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<v Speaker 2>because on both sides, and with the amount of work

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<v Speaker 2>that I have as a certified school psychologists, this is

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<v Speaker 2>really don't need for me to get a license. What

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<v Speaker 2>am I gonna do with it? Right? Right? Right? In Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 2>a certified school psychologist can practice privately. This is the law.

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<v Speaker 2>So what am I in here for? And guess what

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<v Speaker 2>they said? Because you went on the breakfast club.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I said.

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<v Speaker 2>This was their evidence said breakfast clubs. I see that?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you serious? He played the breakfast club? Were in

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<v Speaker 2>the corner? Law and you pull up? You see you

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<v Speaker 2>said that you practiced privately. I'm legally allowed to. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years in. Read your own statue. It says right there,

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<v Speaker 2>a certified school psychologist can practice privately. What are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about? They had no case.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think some of that was to stop your momentum?

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<v Speaker 2>Without question? But I can exclusively credit white supremacy. But

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<v Speaker 2>then I got a credit to coons in the community too,

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<v Speaker 2>because a lot of them were calling them making complaints

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<v Speaker 2>against me. People who disagree with my position on the

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<v Speaker 2>LBGT movement, people who disagree with my position on multiculturalism,

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<v Speaker 2>people who disagree with my position on interracial dating. It

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<v Speaker 2>was that animosity that led to a crusade to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get the state to clamp down on me.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I was because we've seen with Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>Google things like that, how they Instagram social media in itself,

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<v Speaker 1>how they kind of shadow band people and do certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when that was happening, there was a flip on

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube in regards to you. When you google Umar Johnson.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to there were videos of you just speaking like

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<v Speaker 1>you do every day. After that, there was like a

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<v Speaker 1>surge of doctor Umar Johnson exposed. Doctor Umar Johnson said

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<v Speaker 1>this Boyce Watkins was up there. He was saying stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you look that what Boyce Watkins was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost like a game. These guys are playing

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<v Speaker 1>a weird Oh yes, oh yeah, he says, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't say anything. This girl said, yeah, she's a black woman.

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<v Speaker 1>They said it's a crazy thing. So with that switch,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought about it. I'm like, I wonder, what's

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<v Speaker 1>this has kind of stopped the momentum because.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, without question, yeah, without question. Here three things to

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<v Speaker 2>your point. Number one, My work suffers to a degree because,

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<v Speaker 2>unlike the Black Power movement of the sixties, there's not

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of other serious national and international organizers who

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<v Speaker 2>can help distract the power structure from following my every

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<v Speaker 2>move See King had Malcolm Knock Them, had Mega MegaR

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<v Speaker 2>had Stokely, Stokely had Core Court, had Snick. Snick had

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<v Speaker 2>the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. They had the Freedom Riders.

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<v Speaker 2>The Freedom Riders had the Cities. The cities had the

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<v Speaker 2>HPC you protest. In other words, even though Jay Ago

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<v Speaker 2>Hoover was all over each of their backs, he had

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<v Speaker 2>to worry about ten other legitimate movements. We don't have

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<v Speaker 2>that now, unfortunately or fortunately, depending on how you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it. As a result of the police genocide campaign

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<v Speaker 2>that was reignited under the administration of Barack Hussein Obama,

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<v Speaker 2>that campaign exposed the traditional civil rights leadership Cartel Jackson, Sharpton, NAACP,

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<v Speaker 2>Congressional Black It exposed them as being ineffective because they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't give our youth an answer to police genocide. So

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<v Speaker 2>when Sharpton went down to Charleston, South Carolina and tried

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<v Speaker 2>to organize the community there to be quiet and let

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<v Speaker 2>the police do their investigation, he was disinvited. He was

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<v Speaker 2>also disinvited, I believe, from Baltimore. Jackson disinvited. So for

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<v Speaker 2>the first time in our life, we saw major civil

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<v Speaker 2>rights leaders be disinvited by the community. That opened up

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<v Speaker 2>a vacuum where now, for the first time in our

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<v Speaker 2>history in America, this may be the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred years, you do not have an identified black

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<v Speaker 2>leader that the youth can respect. And I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>was part of the assault on my political character because

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<v Speaker 2>they said I was coming kill it. Because one thing

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<v Speaker 2>we know about military science, before you exterminate the body,

0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you exterminate the reputation. If you can kill the reputation

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<v Speaker 2>of the black man, you may not even have to

0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.120
<v Speaker 2>kill the black man because his people are doing for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you see happening to doctor Umar, right, now

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<v Speaker 2>is the assassination of my political reputation as a means

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<v Speaker 2>of doing what destabilizing and killing the momentum and the

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<v Speaker 2>message and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Message, because the mess, it's whether or not people agree

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<v Speaker 1>with it in this entirety. There's there's some meat in

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<v Speaker 1>this message. Like if you don't understand it, that's that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But the logic in it and a lot of places

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<v Speaker 1>is there. You can look at it. It makes total sense.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people like I said, when I seen I said, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and to see the tyrega sheets, and especially with you,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched colors because of you. I'm not nobody that

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not saying it because you hear I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>that because that's the truth. And so even when that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like this infighting, Like we're going right back to

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<v Speaker 1>infighting in a time where we don't have that recognizable

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<v Speaker 1>face like who is it? Who is it? And when you,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, you were coming, and man, when you

0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.080
<v Speaker 1>were coming, you were coming with force. When you when

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<v Speaker 1>you like your conversations now that were just filled with

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<v Speaker 1>ship and it was boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Bam bam bam bam.

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<v Speaker 1>They cannot it was nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They can do with exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when I see that and I say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>boys wakers. He did the same thing the Farakhan too,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, hey, this person said something I didn't say it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all good. I don't really understand it. The YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay that well, you know, for guys to do

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<v Speaker 1>all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Low key hating, low key solft, you know, very sophisticated,

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<v Speaker 2>careful with it. But what you're doing is introducing a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of negative doubts in the people's minds when

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<v Speaker 2>they previously didn't have those doubts.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and like you said, and what happens is

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<v Speaker 1>when you start to do that, somebody goes hmm, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't ever hear you respond to it. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why it's important for this kind of thing, because what

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<v Speaker 1>will happen is when they do that and then you

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<v Speaker 1>do this. It's a response to that. But what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>the real work, you don't have the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Time there exactly. And that's the thing because for a

0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of them, they do nothing but sit on YouTube. Right,

0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.840
<v Speaker 2>And not to blow my horn, because there's the activists

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<v Speaker 2>out there on the community level, yourself and others, but

0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:09.120
<v Speaker 2>on that National International Black Conscious level. There's few who

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.000
<v Speaker 2>do the work the way that I do it. So

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<v Speaker 2>even with the criticism that came from us taking so

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<v Speaker 2>long to get a school, which you're in real estate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it takes a while to get property, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when it's expensive, especially where you're dealing with commercial you see.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm out there grinding to try to get this school.

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<v Speaker 2>They living off of YouTube money. You follow and people

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<v Speaker 2>not putting two to together and say, well, wait a minute,

0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:34.040
<v Speaker 2>if they got time to make a video a day,

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<v Speaker 2>what are they actually doing for the people. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a YouTube channel. Most people don't know this because

0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.520
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of channels that are misrepresenting themselves as mine.

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<v Speaker 2>There's money because of money, There's a King Consciousness channel.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who own that. There's a princip Pan

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<v Speaker 2>Africanism channel. I don't know who owned that. So people

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<v Speaker 2>think I thought that's your channel because it's all your videos.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not mine. And I wouldn't even have a problem

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<v Speaker 2>with them having it if they made a donation to

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<v Speaker 2>the school. Sometimes you've got people who've been plugging my

0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:07.119
<v Speaker 2>info never made a donation to the school. That's what

0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.320
<v Speaker 2>bothers me. But see what a lot of see here's

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<v Speaker 2>the other issue, and this has been a historic problem

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.040
<v Speaker 2>with black leadership. You can go back to the days

0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:16.320
<v Speaker 2>of Frederick Douglass, Martin Delaney, you go back to the

0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:18.399
<v Speaker 2>days of Malcolm and Martin. You could go back to

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<v Speaker 2>the days of almost anyone you want to bring up.

0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.040
<v Speaker 2>That ego of the Negro has always divided our people.

0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:30.280
<v Speaker 2>The ego of the Negro has always divided our people. However,

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<v Speaker 2>where Douglas and Delaney they were still able to coexist.

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<v Speaker 2>Where Malcolm and Martin, on the eve of Malcolm's assassination

0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.040
<v Speaker 2>through Correta Scott rest in peace, Malcolm had agreed to

0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:44.679
<v Speaker 2>your unite forces with King, the Laney united forces with

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<v Speaker 2>Douglas at times. You see, So even though they differed politically,

0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.760
<v Speaker 2>they were able to come together. You know why that

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<v Speaker 2>is because the intentions were sincere. See. I always tell people,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Pan Africanist. I'll never be a Hebrew. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not interested. I'll never be in a nation of Islam.

0:19:01.520 --> 0:19:04.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm not interested. I'll never be Anwappian. I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll never be a god on Earth. I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 2>But I respect all of those movements because they have

0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:13.399
<v Speaker 2>all contributed to our people and where we are today.

0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:15.919
<v Speaker 2>I have friends and supporters in those movements, and I

0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 2>support those movements. But guess what, I could work with

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.159
<v Speaker 2>any of them if the intentions are sincere. So, although

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<v Speaker 2>I am a Pan Africanist, if I think you are insincere,

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<v Speaker 2>even if we are ideologically homogeneous, I won't work with

0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:32.800
<v Speaker 2>you because you're a hustler. On the flip side, you

0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:37.159
<v Speaker 2>could be a Bible total white Jesus worshiping Christian. But

0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.360
<v Speaker 2>if I believe you really trying to make a difference

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<v Speaker 2>for black folks, I will unite with you. At the

0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:45.959
<v Speaker 2>end of the day, it's not the ideology that matters

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:49.360
<v Speaker 2>the most. It's the purity of your heart and your intentions.

0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.480
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of people in today's conscious movement the

0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.600
<v Speaker 2>YouTube voices not to throw nobody under the bus. Brother,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't give you three. I couldn't give you three.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, he sincerely cares about his people, and

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<v Speaker 2>even if he didn't make a dollar, he would still

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<v Speaker 2>do this work. I can't give you anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me and for me being on the wrap side,

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<v Speaker 1>because I know the youth is what the most important

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:17.120
<v Speaker 1>thing is. And as an artist myself, I can't give

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<v Speaker 1>you three that I would want to sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>because again, at the end of the day, I understand

0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of clickbait. It's just a lot of bullshit.

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:25.960
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a lot of your dudes are doing things

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:31.879
<v Speaker 1>that I can't understand. I'm from a place where you

0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.719
<v Speaker 1>don't do that. Like, if you have a sincere problem,

0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:36.720
<v Speaker 1>you address the problem now. If you want to have

0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:40.520
<v Speaker 1>a dialogue, put your video out, ask for a response,

0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:42.440
<v Speaker 1>and even if you don't ask for a response, make

0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.280
<v Speaker 1>valid points that I can respond to. Yes, but to

0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.399
<v Speaker 1>assassinate the character of another guy, just yes, you know

0:20:48.440 --> 0:20:51.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times I don't understand it. But going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the school when you went to get is

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<v Speaker 1>the school recognizing Delaware right now or remember on.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Yes it is. You don't get officially recognized as

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<v Speaker 2>a school to you are operating. So I have to

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.560
<v Speaker 2>be at the point where I'm ready to accept the

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<v Speaker 2>students in. That's when I let Delaware know we are

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<v Speaker 2>now officially okay, applying for our certificate a license to

0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 2>operate an independent school in the state of Delaware. So

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.760
<v Speaker 2>we got to rehab that building first. But in other words,

0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.160
<v Speaker 2>in order to get approved by the state, you got

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.240
<v Speaker 2>to first be approved by license and inspections. Do you

0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.359
<v Speaker 2>even have kids inside of it? You follow that? So

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.560
<v Speaker 2>we got to go through that. We're dealing with the

0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:32.040
<v Speaker 2>building now before we even hit the Barocercy. Yeah makes

0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.879
<v Speaker 2>makes because yeah, got to be up.

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<v Speaker 1>What about with the building with the school? What what

0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>have you done to ensure that when it's time? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a date?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have a harda you need the money because

0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.160
<v Speaker 2>you need the money, can't have a hard date. But

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty, the beauty is the building as opposed to

0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:59.800
<v Speaker 2>it being one castle. It's for smaller castles. That helps

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:02.000
<v Speaker 2>us because, as you know, being in real estate, you

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<v Speaker 2>can operate this and have everything off over there, you follow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's been a beauty. So I can focus in on

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:13.000
<v Speaker 2>the Marcus Garvey Building, which is about twelve buildings excuse me,

0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:19.360
<v Speaker 2>twelve classrooms, two bathrooms, computer.

0:22:19.080 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Lab kick over there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it got what we need, right. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at that and I'm like, if we started with this,

0:22:27.080 --> 0:22:29.480
<v Speaker 2>we can handle this, you know. So that's why we're

0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:31.680
<v Speaker 2>focusing on that because that'll give us two or three

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 2>years to show improved raise that money for the big one,

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<v Speaker 2>because once we get into Frederick Douglas Building, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>rap Brother, that's a modern gym, modern gigantic gym, separate

0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:46.359
<v Speaker 2>lunch room, sixteen class, big hallways. I'm talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>Frederick Douglass Building. My brother would be the central Black

0:22:50.440 --> 0:22:53.919
<v Speaker 2>organizing headquarters in America. Every conference you're trying to do

0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:59.959
<v Speaker 2>a hip hop conference, we got all the space you need, vendors, entertainment, grasshouse.

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<v Speaker 1>You follow what I'm saying, like, yeah, sir, yes, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I'm so excited when I talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the campus, as someone who speaks as much as I do,

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<v Speaker 2>I can probably only name for you five places one

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<v Speaker 2>hand of places I've spoken in. And this is global,

0:23:16.560 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>not just in the man that's owned by us. Ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the time when I'm speaking, i'm speaking in

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<v Speaker 2>property that we had to rent from another person. You

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 2>see speaking to us, and you're speaking us, which means

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<v Speaker 2>I have to watch my message to a.

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<v Speaker 1>Degree for they say next time, no more.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time, no more, or bring the police in on

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<v Speaker 2>you right then and there exactly. So we will have

0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.920
<v Speaker 2>a facility where we can fit all the people we need,

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:44.400
<v Speaker 2>do all the music we need, all the food we need,

0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 2>all the vendors we need one stop shop. And I'm

0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 2>going to market that as a conference center. So guess

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<v Speaker 2>what delta sigma beta. Guess what kappa ALPHASI guess what

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<v Speaker 2>omegasi five five beta sigma sibber Gammarrell say to phive

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 2>beta when y'all need a space to do a conference,

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<v Speaker 2>why are you giving a quarter of a million to Hyatt?

0:24:07.080 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Why are you giving a quarter of a million to Hilton?

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Why you're giving a quarter of a million to Best Western?

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Where you can come here and give that quarter of

0:24:14.680 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>a million to us. You can operate our school for

0:24:17.000 --> 0:24:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the whole year if you do your camrat. It's a

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 2>nice school. It's modern modern, not old modern. We got

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 2>all the class space y'all need, We got all the

0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 2>luncheon space y'all need. Let us do it and let

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 2>my students cater it with our hotel restaurant into a

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:34.680
<v Speaker 2>hism school. You following what I'm saying, So I'm putting

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:36.760
<v Speaker 2>organizations on a spot when we up and run it,

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>I better not catch you. You understand giving your money

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.000
<v Speaker 2>to a white hotel where you got an independent school

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:44.960
<v Speaker 2>with the facilities you need that you can go to

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:48.760
<v Speaker 2>and it's Wilmington, thirty minutes from the Philadelphia airport, two

0:24:48.800 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 2>hours from DC on the river, historic city. How can

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<v Speaker 2>you say nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you meet any resistance? Are you still meaning resistance?

0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Or it was the building? Was that like a turning

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>point for the goal?

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 2>Was that for me? It was a turning point spiritually

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.679
<v Speaker 2>a psychologically because stroudos five years brothers. Because of the

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 2>real estate racism. I kept coming into buildings that we

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 2>could afford, like the Philly building getting red line through racism.

0:25:18.119 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 2>There was a school in Trenton, New Jersey, red line

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:24.720
<v Speaker 2>through racism. There was a school in Detroit, Michigan that

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I really wanted, owned by Brothers. I didn't get that

0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 2>building because they didn't want to work with me on

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:32.000
<v Speaker 2>a price. We couldn't afford the whole thing, but we

0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.600
<v Speaker 2>could put down more than half right and pay the

0:25:34.680 --> 0:25:36.400
<v Speaker 2>rest off. They didn't work with us because we would

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:40.760
<v Speaker 2>have been in Detroit. Right. Yeah, very good players. Yes,

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I was about to go to Atlanta. There was a

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:46.399
<v Speaker 2>black OneD church school in Atlanta. Wasn't quite what I wanted,

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>but Atlanta is a big doctor Umar City, So I

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 2>was gonna work with it, but then my mother fell ill,

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 2>so I couldn't make that relocation. Otherwise I would be

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta now. But I think it was all by

0:25:56.119 --> 0:26:01.560
<v Speaker 2>divine design, because the Delaware building significantly better in terms

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 2>of amenities than any of the other ones.

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>Now, when you when you meet that racism real estate racism,

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>are there laws to govern that.

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you're supposed to report it. You're supposed to report

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 2>it to the Feds. The Feds do the investigation. If

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the Feds find that there was wrongdoing on the part

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 2>of the realtor, they will give you a certificate that

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.640
<v Speaker 2>allows you to now go to a regular attorney and

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 2>suthe them for that discrimination. But because I've been so

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 2>busy between mom and school and everything else, I hadn't

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>had time to follow up on that. But I should have.

0:26:35.200 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I just been so busy. But that's the way that

0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 2>that goes. Yeah, you have to report it to the Feds.

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 2>They will look at it to see if it meets

0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.639
<v Speaker 2>the definition, and if it does, they now give you

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 2>the authority go get a lawyer and pursue them.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, let me ask you have you when you

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.119
<v Speaker 1>first started out, I heard you mentioned some curriculum. I'm

0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna get you. They the poor curriculums of f DMG.

0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't mention math required, I don't mention language required,

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't mention science required, and I don't mention social

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.760
<v Speaker 2>studies to civics required. So on top of the required

0:27:08.359 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 2>there is agricultural and agronomical science, where we want to

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 2>teach them the science of how to live off the soil,

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 2>grow your own food. So right now we're actually scouting

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 2>property to buy about one or two acres of land

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 2>that will be used for the FDMG farm. Right, so

0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 2>we got the agriculture agronomical Then we also got to

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:27.959
<v Speaker 2>diet and nutritional so we want to teach them how

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.040
<v Speaker 2>to eat the live So we will have home economics

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 2>that will be taught how to make food, understanding the

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>mineral and nutritional properties of what you eat and how

0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:38.120
<v Speaker 2>it impacts the body. So we basically want to take

0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:40.760
<v Speaker 2>the doctor saby science and put it into the minds

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:43.440
<v Speaker 2>of our children so that every boy that graduates from

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the school will be a walking, talking, nutritional doctor in

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>his own right. Then we got the political and military science,

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 2>which I'm going to teach the bulk of that, because

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 2>that is making sure they understand the way the world operates.

0:27:58.680 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Why was Barack Obama made president? They need to know that.

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Why is Africa the most literally rich continent in the world,

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 2>but the people are in the worst condition. They need

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 2>to know that.

0:28:08.840 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>Ye ask myself, I don't even know that.

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Bro Okay. When the white man colonized Africa, first they

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 2>were slavery. When slavery ended, colonization basically took off, right.

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 2>So first, we're gonna steal your people. Once we've done

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.760
<v Speaker 2>making them work for free, We're gonna come into Africa

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:30.920
<v Speaker 2>and make y'all work for free and rob you. Now,

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.520
<v Speaker 2>there was a revolution to push the white man out.

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 2>Kwame and Kruma of Ghana led the way, with Ghana

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen fifty seven, becoming the first African country to

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:44.360
<v Speaker 2>gain independence. Post Colonialism and post colonialism is basically a

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>a a a non emotional word, okay to describe a

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>very inhuman thing, such as the rape, exploitation in the

0:28:56.520 --> 0:29:00.160
<v Speaker 2>humanization of people in their indigenous habitat. See the man

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 2>puts words on things to kill the emotion behind it.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:06.240
<v Speaker 2>Somebody say slavery, Well, slavery. That don't sound too bad colonialism, no,

0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 2>but when you see what they did, then that's what

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>makes the difference. So they pushed the white man out.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>But on the way out the door, the white man

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 2>started sabotaging all the infrastructure that he built in Africa.

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 2>So guess what he was doing, blowing up his own buildings,

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.520
<v Speaker 2>poison in the water, leave nothing. I'm gonna leave nothing

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>since y'all kicking me out. I'm gonna leave everything that

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I built because I didn't build it for y'all, built

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.880
<v Speaker 2>it for me to exploit y'all. So then the Africans said, wait,

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>we need these buildings, we need the rail road, we

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 2>need that, We need this shit with your door. The

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 2>white man said, well, if you need it, you got

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>to pay me. Whoa y'all been robbing that's for a century.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:47.120
<v Speaker 2>You done stole diamonds, gold, cot tan, oil, animals, plants.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 2>What I got to pay If you don't want me

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to destroy this any further, sign the contract that you're

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna pay me for all this infrastructure. That's how Africa

0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>got put into debt. When people say, if the white

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:03.280
<v Speaker 2>man Robb does blind, why do we owe them all

0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>African nations are in debt to European nations right now.

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 2>This very much everyone. Everyone, you say, how can that

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 2>be when they've robbed us of people and rob us

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 2>of how can we owe y'all? Because on the way

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 2>out the door, they were just shave pay me, I'm

0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna destroy you, destroy your whole infrastructure. Reluctantly, we had

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:26.400
<v Speaker 2>no option, so we signed God and then the White

0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Man said, on top of paying me for this infrastructure,

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 2>if you need any money to build up your new

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>independent country, you need schools, you need hospitals, you need jobs,

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 2>you need factory, you need medicine, paper pens, pencils, whatever

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 2>you need. I'm gonna loan you the money. But here's

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>three things you gonna do. Number one, I'm gonna charge

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 2>you one thousand percent interests. If you ever want to

0:30:49.040 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 2>know why the more money Africa get, the worse off

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Africa is, it's because the interest on the loan, you

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>can't pay it back in a million years.

0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 1>It's too deep.

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 2>It's too deep to payer. So basically, you're not purchasing

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 2>a loan, you're purchasing slavery. Every time an African nation

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 2>accepts a loan from abroad, they are in essence giving

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>up a part of their freedom.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:17.240
<v Speaker 1>What are they getting loans for for infrastructure?

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>To just exact, because remember that when you took over

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the country, you had no bank, you had no reserve,

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 2>you had no credit line. You feel me, It's like

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I just came into this office right now and kicked

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>you out because you stole it from me. You start

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.400
<v Speaker 2>blowing up all the speakers, and he said, all you

0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:35.959
<v Speaker 2>want me to leave it, you're gonna pay me for it?

0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Then you leave. I still got what you left, but

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:40.760
<v Speaker 2>you did some damage to it. I got to repair

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 2>that and I got the build on because remember when

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:47.719
<v Speaker 2>you was running my country, you only did what you

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 2>needed to do to exploit the resources. You didn't give

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>us no schools. You ain't give us no you can

0:31:52.640 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>give it. Hell, you would kid us if we didn't

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 2>you follow. So I need money. I ain't got no

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 2>line of credit. Because this is the first day of

0:31:59.400 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the new country.

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You gotta go to the same individuals.

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.480
<v Speaker 2>That destroyed you, ribs you raped, you, enslaved, you colonized you,

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 2>and take out a loan. So you know what they

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna do. They gonna set the terms and set your

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>way that every time you come back from more money,

0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:15.040
<v Speaker 2>are you doing is giving me more control over your

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 2>decision making power. So the first thing they do is

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna charge you one thousand percent interest. This is

0:32:20.480 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 2>why with every loan, Africa gets in worse condition. With

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>every loan, Africa gets the worse. Second thing they gonna do,

0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>they got something called structural adjustment programs. You know what

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 2>that means. That means we're gonna dictate how you're gonna

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 2>run your economy. And the first thing we're gonna dictate

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:42.320
<v Speaker 2>is you must not prohibit any European businesses from coming

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 2>into your country to operate their businesses and sell to

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 2>your people. Why is that a problem because it means

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I cannot protect any homegrown national industries. Let me give

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:54.880
<v Speaker 2>you an example. You and Ghana, right, and Ghana. Let's

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>say you got palm oil sender God, you got salt

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>a Zambia, you got tea Nigeria, you got coffee. Right,

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 2>So you might say, I got my own coffee. I

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 2>don't need Maxwell House, I got my own tea. I

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.000
<v Speaker 2>don't need lifting. I got my own salt, I don't

0:33:12.000 --> 0:33:15.400
<v Speaker 2>need Morton's. I got my own chicken. I don't need Purdue.

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 2>White man said, u uh. The terms of this loan

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 2>mean you must have a free market economy. Will you

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 2>hit the world free market economy? You know what that

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>means me?

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Whoever had the most money wins exactly.

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>So guess what, I can't compete with Morton salt. They

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 2>can grow it quicker, they can refine it, they can

0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>sell it. Check you follow. So now you got a

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>national company owned by the government competing in their own

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 2>country with a foreign company selling the same thing.

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>With government backing.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 2>With government backing. So when you go to Africa, you say,

0:33:45.040 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 2>why are Africans in Senegal buying Morton salt from America

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 2>when Senegal is known for its salt, Because when Morton

0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 2>comes to Senegal, they can sell the native salt industry

0:33:57.000 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>lower price, quicker, more, and they put you out of business.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 2>That's why you got African country that grow tea, important

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 2>tea from Europe. You got your own chicken, you important

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 2>chicken from America. With all these chickens you got why

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.800
<v Speaker 2>because you can't compete with them. They sabotage your economy.

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Now you dependent on them. See that, now you dependent?

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 2>And then the third thing they do so you got

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 2>your structural adjustment, which basically sabotage your economy, thousand percent interests,

0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:29.239
<v Speaker 2>sabotage your freedom. And then they got this new thing

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 2>that came in under Obama. It was already there, but

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Obama made it stronger, and that is population control planning.

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, brother, Oh yes, you know what this means.

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 2>You want this money, You're gonna do three things. Number one,

0:34:42.320 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 2>birth control, abortion, and hysterectomy must be made freely available

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to the women. Oh yes, you're gonna push birth control. Yes, yes,

0:34:53.480 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna push contraceptives. Yes, yes, you're gonna push hysterectomy.

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.920
<v Speaker 2>In fact, you're gonna pay black women to get their

0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:05.320
<v Speaker 2>insides taken Oh. Yes. When I was in South Africa,

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 2>I never forget it. Two thousand and five, my first time.

0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>They have been there many times since. On the way

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.439
<v Speaker 2>to the airport, there was a big billboard. It said

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:17.120
<v Speaker 2>hysterectomies five hundred US dollars. We will pay you. Did

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 2>you hear that? You don't have to pay us. We're

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna give you five hundred US dollars to get your

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.680
<v Speaker 2>reproductive system taken out. And guess what, Because of the

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 2>economy that has been created in Africa by the white man.

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.720
<v Speaker 2>A lot of our sisters go for it because economically

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 2>it's so stressful to live. African poverty is nothing like

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Black American poverty. Go to the worst hood in America,

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:43.439
<v Speaker 2>the worst hood. It can't compete with a ghetto in Johannesburg,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 2>a ghetto in Ghana, a ghetto in Serie leone. Brother,

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:49.279
<v Speaker 2>it don't even begin to compete with it. You see,

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>you're talking about poverty on a whole new level. So

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>you got a young black girl struggling, already got two kids.

0:35:54.520 --> 0:35:56.279
<v Speaker 2>White man saying, I give you five hundred dollars if

0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 2>you let me take out your reproductives. But we ain't

0:35:58.400 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna tell you is when you take out your reproduction,

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>you're probably gonna put some cancer or some aids in you.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 2>You see. So, and then the LBGT that's why that's

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 2>being pushed in Africa too under Obama. Remember was Barack

0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 2>Obama who went to the president of Uganda in Liberia

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 2>and I think Tanzania, and I was in Liberia around

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:22.479
<v Speaker 2>that time that that crisis kicked and Obama threatened many

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:24.600
<v Speaker 2>African nations. Those are just three that come to mind,

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>because those presidents stood up and say, you don't come

0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 2>here and tell us how to run our culture. We've

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 2>been around two This is the president of you gotta

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm paraphrase. He said, we've been around two million years.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Who are you to come to my country and tell

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 2>me that I have to make it legal for a

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>man to marry a man. We are African. That is

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>not how we build families. If y'all want to do

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.040
<v Speaker 2>that in Europe or America, you do that in Europe

0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 2>and America. And Obama said, if you don't make gay

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>marriage legal, we will cut off your aid. Here's the question,

0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>why does an American president give a damn as to

0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>whether or not an African country legalize his home sexuality?

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 2>Because through the legalization of homosexuality, you control the black

0:37:05.440 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>population growth. Homosexuality is both control. Lesbianism is birth control,

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and it is a more powerful form of birth control

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 2>than any pill or any contraceptive. This is an extermination. See,

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>we've had four periods in our surjohin in America four centuries,

0:37:25.160 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>four periods sixteen nineteen, seventeen nineteen. That was a period

0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 2>of shock. We was trying to understand what the will

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 2>is going or we never saw white folks before. A

0:37:36.800 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 2>lot of us. We just took a ninety day boat

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 2>ride through hell, sleeping in feces and menstrual blood and

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 2>shackle the dead bodies. And then you come out from

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>that a land you don't know, white folks you never seen,

0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>giving you names you don't relate to, enforcing you to

0:37:58.560 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 2>do work without pay. We were in trauma. Brother, That

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 2>first century was trauma. Second century seventeen nineteen to eighteen nineteen,

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:10.879
<v Speaker 2>that's when we begin to try to fight for our humanity.

0:38:11.880 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Because remember, the European enslavement of the African is the

0:38:16.840 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>first slavery where the victim was stripped of their humanity. See,

0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:26.240
<v Speaker 2>people always say, why y'all keep talking about slavery. Everybody

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 2>been slaves. You ain't the first slaves. In fact, the

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 2>word slave comes from slave, which describes one of the

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 2>first European groups to be enslaved in Europe. Right, that's true,

0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 2>we're not the first, but we're the only ones ever,

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>including biblical slavery, to be stripped of your humanity, to

0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 2>be told that you are not a human being. So

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 2>our second century had to fight the proof we were

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>people and we forget that, A lot of black people forget.

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Before you could fight to be free, you had to

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>fight the proof that you are a person worvy of

0:38:57.040 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the free. Yes, third century teen nineteen to nineteen nineteen,

0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.200
<v Speaker 2>that was a fight for freedom. That's from the birth

0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:09.200
<v Speaker 2>of Frederick Douglas to the rise of Marcus Garvey. That's

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.959
<v Speaker 2>your Nat Turner, that's your Harriet Tubman, that's your Shot

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:16.439
<v Speaker 2>for Zulu, that's your Haitian Revolution. In fact, that century there,

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>the third one, eighteen nineteen to nineteen nineteen, I would

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:24.480
<v Speaker 2>argue was our greatest century since the fall of the

0:39:24.520 --> 0:39:27.400
<v Speaker 2>Great Kingdoms of Africa, because in that century you got

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:31.359
<v Speaker 2>your Pan Africanism, most of your major slave revolts, your

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:35.120
<v Speaker 2>greatest African and African American leaders, from Shahkazu to Frederick Douglas.

0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>You follow what I'm saying, You see, that was our

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 2>century right there, That was it. We ain't done nothing

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>before or since in this country that we've done eighteen

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>nineteen to nineteen nineteen, from Douglas to Garvey. Can't touch it.

0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 2>Then you got nineteen nineteen to twenty nineteen. I want

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to split this in two. I want to go nineteen

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 2>nineteen to nineteen sixty eight assassination the King, and I

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.200
<v Speaker 2>want to go to the assassination of King to today.

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Right nineteen nineteen to nineteen sixty eight. We started off

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.840
<v Speaker 2>with the same organized power we had coming out of

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 2>the third century. The movements was there, Garvey was there. Yes,

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, NAACP wasn't doing much for us, but it

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.240
<v Speaker 2>got formed. The Black labor unions was coming. We was coming,

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>doctor King knock, them were coming. And then the white

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>man said in nineteen sixty eight, we got to stop

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 2>this because it is s threatening the status quote in

0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>this country of white over black. Oh yeah, in one way,

0:40:32.280 --> 0:40:36.439
<v Speaker 2>in several ways. Let's go back twenty years nineteen fifty four. Right,

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 2>civil Rights Bill is sixty four. But they desegregated the

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:44.800
<v Speaker 2>schools ten years earlier, fifty four. Why did they desegregate

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the school This was the beginning. The fifty four was

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>the beginning. The reason they desegregated the schools wasn't for

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:52.920
<v Speaker 2>us to sit with the white kids. It wasn't to

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 2>give us a better education. They were afraid that if

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.760
<v Speaker 2>they did not kill independent black education, it was surpassed

0:40:59.760 --> 0:41:04.279
<v Speaker 2>white education. Remember that we were inventing things in that

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:08.240
<v Speaker 2>one room black schoolhouse. White kids were not thinking about.

0:41:08.440 --> 0:41:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Remember the gas mask, You wasn't sitting next to white

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 2>folks when you invented that, the refrigerated truck. You wasn't

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 2>sitting next to white folks. When you invented that they

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 2>stop light. Who wasn't sitting next to white folks when

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>you invented that? When Charles Drew separated blood plasma, he

0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>wasn't sitting next to white folks when he was a

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 2>child in school thinking about doing that. Rocky talkies and

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 2>baby carriages and ironing boards and golf teaser. White men said,

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:37.840
<v Speaker 2>look at what these Nigro kids are creating. If we

0:41:37.880 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 2>don't kill this, they will intellectually dominate this country. Period.

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 2>That's why they desegregated the schools to crush the intellectual potential.

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Of at least being able to steal from us.

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, and still, if I could sit.

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Next to you, you know I can do exactly yeah.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Fifty four, sixty four, seventy four, fifty four, they integrated

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the schools to kill black intelligence. Sixty four they gave

0:42:01.480 --> 0:42:04.359
<v Speaker 2>you the Civil Rights Bill once again. Why did they

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.840
<v Speaker 2>do the Civil Rights Bill? The Civil Rights Bill was

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.000
<v Speaker 2>not passed, so you can live with white folks and

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.080
<v Speaker 2>date white folks and go to the hotels. You know

0:42:11.120 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 2>why I was passed, so that they could benefit from

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the black dollar. Remember, until desegregation, you had Black Wall Street,

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.040
<v Speaker 2>you had Tusa, you had Rosewood, you had Charleston, you

0:42:22.120 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 2>had Wilmington, North Carolina. You had all these pockets of

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.760
<v Speaker 2>black economic power. White man said, that is a threat.

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 1>That is a threat.

0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 2>That is a threat. So we're gonna desegregate and make

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 2>it look like this is for social justice.

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.080
<v Speaker 1>We wanna keep it closed sound.

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.520
<v Speaker 2>We gonna make it look like it's for social justice,

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 2>but we are really integrating for economic domination of black capital.

0:42:45.480 --> 0:42:48.759
<v Speaker 2>Look where we've been since desegregation. You can't show me

0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:52.319
<v Speaker 2>a black community in America. Mind you, we are two

0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:55.840
<v Speaker 2>trillion dollar people with the richest group of Africans in

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.520
<v Speaker 2>the world, where the tenth richest economic nation on the planet.

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 2>You can't show me a community in America where black

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 2>people own a school to educate life, a hospital to

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:12.520
<v Speaker 2>protect life, a supermarket to feed life, or a bank

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 2>to invest in life. This is why they desegregated, and

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>then sixty eight they assassinated Doctor King, the last visionary,

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 2>sincere leader of a mass, comprehensive movement for black folks

0:43:26.800 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 2>to change. When they kill King, they said, we got

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:31.800
<v Speaker 2>to make sure we never get another one ever again. Now,

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 2>at the time that King was murdered, he was considered

0:43:37.680 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 2>the most dangerous black man in America. Now after the

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:44.960
<v Speaker 2>murdered King, Jego, who had declared the panthers a few

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 2>years later as the number one threat to American national security.

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:53.719
<v Speaker 2>But King was considered and I agree he was at

0:43:53.800 --> 0:43:57.720
<v Speaker 2>sixty eight after the death of Malcolm, after he visited

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:00.239
<v Speaker 2>the grave of Marcus Garbye and Jamaica, he came back

0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>preaching just like Garvey. If you listen to any of

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 2>doctor King's speeches. After he went to visit the grave

0:44:06.080 --> 0:44:09.839
<v Speaker 2>of the Honorable Marcus Garvey, those garvey Ice, those Jamaicans

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 2>got into him and he came back preaching Govey. And

0:44:13.200 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 2>that's why they said he got to go. Because the

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>man that we killed, Malcolm Fa became Malcolm. And you know,

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 2>Malcolm was a son of Garvey Ice. His mother and father,

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Earl and Louise Little, used to run the un Ia chapter.

0:44:25.920 --> 0:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I believe in Lansing Michigan for the Honorable Marcus Garvey.

0:44:28.960 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 2>His mother used to write for the Nigro World Garvey paper,

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 2>so that yes, yes, Malcolm was a Davy Heike, Elijah

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Poole was a Garvy heke. They all come from Garvey.

0:44:40.280 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 2>So they said, we got to make sure we don't

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:47.799
<v Speaker 2>get another Doctor King. They said, how did doctor King

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:52.080
<v Speaker 2>manage to pull this off without us financing him? Right?

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:56.600
<v Speaker 2>They said, independent black businesses finance the civil rights woman.

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>White Man said yeah. They said, yes, So, so guess what

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.400
<v Speaker 2>we gonna do. We're gonna go into the ghetto and

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna crush the independent black businesses. How you gonna

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 2>do that? Two things. Number One, We're gonna go into

0:45:07.680 --> 0:45:10.239
<v Speaker 2>the high schools. We're gonna go into Chattanooga. We're gonna

0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 2>go to Memphis. We're gonna go to Nashville. We're gonna

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 2>go to Knoxville. And guess what we're gonna do. We're

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:16.439
<v Speaker 2>gonna go to every black high school and take out

0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:19.280
<v Speaker 2>all the building trades. We're gonna make sure they cannot

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:21.760
<v Speaker 2>be taught how to use their hands to feed their family.

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Ever again. They took out auto shop, they took off

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 2>the electric program. That took out plumbing, they took out releving,

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 2>they took out HVAC. This is what they did. This

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 2>is what they did. This is the beginning of the

0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:36.680
<v Speaker 2>war between the black women and the black man. They

0:45:36.719 --> 0:45:41.160
<v Speaker 2>made the black man economically irrelevant to the black woman's life.

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 2>They said, this is how we're gonna kill black power.

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:47.400
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna set the family against each other. If we

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:50.239
<v Speaker 2>can set the black woman against the black man, he

0:45:50.320 --> 0:45:52.200
<v Speaker 2>won't have time to fight us because he got the

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.760
<v Speaker 2>fighter's own woman. So they went into the high schools

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:57.279
<v Speaker 2>and took out all the building trades. Think about it,

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 2>before nineteen eighty, the black community was never about going

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to college to take care of our family because we

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 2>wasn't allowed in the colleges. So they would change this.

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 2>So why they taking away our economics by making sure

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 2>our boys ain't learning the skills that pay the bills.

0:46:18.000 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Making sure our boys no longer learn the skills that

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:26.480
<v Speaker 2>pay the bills. They started this college education propaganda. Go

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:30.040
<v Speaker 2>to college, America is integrated. Now you could go to

0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Harvard and Stanford and Yale, and we sent our kids

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand dollars loans go go failing to realize

0:46:36.440 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 2>that even though they got that degree, who gonna give

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 2>them a job? It was a trap. It was a trap.

0:46:41.719 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 2>So then in nineteen seventy they economically decimated us, and

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 2>then they took all the factories out the black community.

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 2>You go to most northern and Midwestern cities Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore.

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.120
<v Speaker 2>You see old factories. That's where we used to work.

0:46:55.560 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Good jobs made more than that we make now with

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 2>college degrees. They got rid of all them. That was

0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:05.160
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventies, but they wasn't done. Nineteen eighties, CIA

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:08.319
<v Speaker 2>drop off the crack cocaine boom. So now the black

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 2>man can no longer earn with his hands. He got

0:47:11.480 --> 0:47:13.759
<v Speaker 2>to make a decision with this crack. This is a

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 2>booming business. You can smoke it to deal with the

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 2>pain of not being able to provide for your family,

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:21.640
<v Speaker 2>or you can try to sell it and provide for

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:25.359
<v Speaker 2>your family. Either way and you're going to jail, which

0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 2>takes us for nineteen ninety Bill Clinton Crime Bill, nineteen

0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 2>ninety four boom. Look at this every decade since they

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 2>killed King, they didn't hit us. So the seventies, economic castration, eighties,

0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 2>the crack, nineteen ninety Bill Clinton Crime Bill under a

0:47:40.320 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Democratic president that black people consider to be one of

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 2>their Yeah, our bore, you got. Bill Clinton locked up

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:53.160
<v Speaker 2>more Black men than any Republican president since reconstruction, mandatory

0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 2>three strikes in, you out, mandatory federal minimum wages for

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 2>non violent drug related offenses, pick millions of black women

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.480
<v Speaker 2>off welfare and the welfare the work program. And then

0:48:03.480 --> 0:48:05.760
<v Speaker 2>he did something else under the table we wasn't even watching.

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 2>He criminalized child support. That was Clinton. Clinton did that.

0:48:11.200 --> 0:48:15.320
<v Speaker 2>That happened under Bill Clinton. Before Bill Clinton, you didn't

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 2>go to jail if you didn't have a job to

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:17.760
<v Speaker 2>pay your child support.

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 2>He snuck that in. And the reason he was able

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 2>to snuck it in is because I don't think they

0:48:23.840 --> 0:48:26.360
<v Speaker 2>put the language directly in the crime bill. So the

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 2>black community didn't fight it because they didn't know that

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:31.399
<v Speaker 2>that was part of the whole mix. Right, He criminalized

0:48:31.480 --> 0:48:34.799
<v Speaker 2>child support, So any black man with a child technically

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:39.600
<v Speaker 2>technically is on parole. Any damn way. Ten more years,

0:48:39.600 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 2>we come to the year two thousand election of George W.

0:48:42.160 --> 0:48:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Bush for President. He comes in with the FBI Faith

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Based Initiative where he finds a loophole in federal law

0:48:48.480 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 2>that allows him the fun Black Church. If you want

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:52.760
<v Speaker 2>to know why, you ain't seen the Black Church involved

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:55.560
<v Speaker 2>in any major struggle affecting black folks. Have you noticed

0:48:55.560 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 2>that you don't see the Black church dealing with police genocide.

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.120
<v Speaker 2>You don't see the Black church doing with miseduitation. You

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.399
<v Speaker 2>don't see the Black church dealer with unemployment. You don't

0:49:02.440 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 2>see the Black church dealer with mass incarceration. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>name one thing that the Black Church is at the

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<v Speaker 2>far front of changing for black folks? You can't why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because of y two K the new millennium came with

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<v Speaker 2>a new takeover of the Black Church. The federal government

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<v Speaker 2>now owns the Black Church FBI Faith Based Initiative. Your

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<v Speaker 2>pastor is the new snitch.

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<v Speaker 1>M Now that's d Now that's two What year was this.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand, which is also the same year that the

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.080
<v Speaker 2>federal government decided that they were going to take back

0:49:34.200 --> 0:49:37.200
<v Speaker 2>all major cities from blacks in gentrifying back in the

0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.480
<v Speaker 2>hands of whites. Yep, that was why two K. You're

0:49:40.520 --> 0:49:43.040
<v Speaker 2>seeing it now, but it was decided twenty years That

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:47.040
<v Speaker 2>was why two K. They unemployed us, they drug addicted us,

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 2>they mass and Carters incarcerated us. They neutralized the Black church,

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<v Speaker 2>and they took back the ghettos.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what the college proper ganda? Oh man?

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<v Speaker 2>Two million unemployed African American with masters and doctorate degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you got in America. I didn't say bachelor's,

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't say associates. I say masters. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>the top of the top. Brother, I occasionally get resumes

0:50:12.920 --> 0:50:17.799
<v Speaker 2>from lawyer's brother. Lawyer, law degree, licensed attorney.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't try to ask you to put them the

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<v Speaker 1>work trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Put in the word man, we got to go back

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<v Speaker 2>to the skills.

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me with the school. Are you for your school?

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Are you teaching the kids to leave school without needing college.

0:50:34.480 --> 0:50:36.759
<v Speaker 1>There's no college for FDMG.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, because you still have to have your

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>black professional class. In other words, there's certain professions you

0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:47.320
<v Speaker 2>cannot practice without college degrees right right because of the structure,

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:51.000
<v Speaker 2>because they require licenses and certifications that you can only

0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:54.000
<v Speaker 2>get if you have the credential. Right, medical doctor you

0:50:54.040 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 2>got to go to college. Lawyer, you gotta go to

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.719
<v Speaker 2>co educated engineers, psychologists, pharmacists, you got to go to

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 2>colleg So for those children who want to be something

0:51:02.560 --> 0:51:06.680
<v Speaker 2>that requires college. We sending them. But for the ones

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:09.279
<v Speaker 2>who ain't interested in that, why do they have to

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:13.879
<v Speaker 2>do that? The issue is options. Know that you can

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:19.240
<v Speaker 2>build your economic empire and legacy for your children's children's children.

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>You can do it without a college degree. Right. Don't

0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:26.359
<v Speaker 2>let nobody intimidate you and make you fearful of not

0:51:26.520 --> 0:51:29.480
<v Speaker 2>going to college in order to be successful. Because the

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:32.279
<v Speaker 2>top one percent richest people in the world ain't never

0:51:32.360 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 2>set foot in the university.

0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of people I know this

0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:37.319
<v Speaker 1>riches never never set foot in you.

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:37.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:41.960
<v Speaker 1>So now that dude, that's loaded, Like, that's a lot

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of shit. That's a lot of information. That's great information.

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:48.959
<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this now with that being said,

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 1>because a lot of stuff, like I said, this stuff

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>has to get out to the masses. We need this information.

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Back in I think twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 1>there was almost like a push for our youth, in

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, again from the outside, from being boots on

0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 1>the ground and not wrapped up in that industry stuff.

0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:17.000
<v Speaker 1>I see Doctor Uman breakfast club, I see Farah Khan

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:20.240
<v Speaker 1>on breakfast club. I see Brother Polite on breakfast club.

0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I see uh you know Uman Land, I see human

0:52:26.080 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>one O six this, and then and then I don't

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.440
<v Speaker 1>know if it was the LGBT stuff or something happened,

0:52:33.680 --> 0:52:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and then it was Booth Wilma's no longer own breakfast club.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not I don't gif was the curse. On the

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 2>one hand, the hip hop community knew that the youth

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.560
<v Speaker 2>were beginning to become woke, so they said, if we

0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 2>want to stay relevant, we gotta get We're gonna have

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:56.000
<v Speaker 2>to somehow cater to this new woke movement because it

0:52:56.080 --> 0:52:58.879
<v Speaker 2>might overtake hip hop. Right, So if hip hop does

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.560
<v Speaker 2>not get on top of the the whopeless might top

0:53:01.600 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 2>on hip hop. That's what brought us into that because

0:53:05.040 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 2>for the first time you had the people listen to

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 2>the gangster rat. But then they'll turn on some doctor Umar,

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:14.720
<v Speaker 2>some John Henry Clark, right, So then the shot callers said,

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:17.320
<v Speaker 2>look at this, Okay, we got to get out in

0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:19.399
<v Speaker 2>front of this because we don't need this backfiring on us.

0:53:19.840 --> 0:53:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So that's when they rode out the red carpet to

0:53:21.480 --> 0:53:25.279
<v Speaker 2>the conscious movement. First they let everybody else come. Of course,

0:53:25.320 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be one of the last ones because

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 2>my message is too strong for mainz straight. So I

0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:33.839
<v Speaker 2>was at a Columbia, South Carolina, only been there once.

0:53:35.120 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Brother walked up to my young brody. He said, you

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:38.480
<v Speaker 2>need to be on the breakfast club. I said, brother,

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm never getting on. He said, listen, take this car.

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 2>This is Charlemagne's. It was either Charlemagne's car to Charlemagne's agent.

0:53:48.520 --> 0:53:50.400
<v Speaker 2>He said, call him. I said, I give it a shot.

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, bro, trust me, I'm too strong for the platform.

0:53:54.680 --> 0:53:57.280
<v Speaker 2>But sure enough I hit him and the brother said,

0:53:58.760 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>we've been wanting to do this. So we did the

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:04.120
<v Speaker 2>first breakfast club right. I didn't think nothing of it.

0:54:04.239 --> 0:54:07.279
<v Speaker 2>Good interview, Charlemagne was cool, Envy was school went well good.

0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Brothers Angie left that thing, brother, That thing went viral.

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:17.320
<v Speaker 2>That was twenty fourteen. I said, oh, you know what

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:22.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean. Charla Maine was like, yeah, we got to

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:25.320
<v Speaker 2>do it again. I said, let's do it. Came back fifteen,

0:54:28.000 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 2>viral again. I said two. Because it's the hip hoop mixed. Yes,

0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:36.359
<v Speaker 2>that's what this is. The last one. The crazy thing

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:38.360
<v Speaker 2>about the last one was almost canceled. That's when I

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:41.640
<v Speaker 2>got on a bright orange dat chiki. I was running late.

0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I called the queen who set up. I said, cancel this.

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm on some strip in New York for traffic backed up.

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Envy and Charlottage said, tell them to come on the way.

0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:51.319
<v Speaker 2>We gotta do it. Whatever we can get in, we're

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna get That was the shortest of the three because

0:54:53.640 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I was late, right, might have been thirty eight minutes.

0:54:57.360 --> 0:55:01.600
<v Speaker 2>That one went more viral than the previous two. And

0:55:01.640 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 2>if I don't got the stats on this, but I

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 2>believe it is the most watched political interview in Breakfast

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Club history, and it's one of the most watched interviews

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 2>period in Breakfast Club history. I would argue that that

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 2>interview may have been watched more than any raper interview

0:55:18.040 --> 0:55:20.560
<v Speaker 2>they did that year. You can't go off the Breakfast

0:55:20.560 --> 0:55:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Club totals because people snatch it and repost it, so

0:55:23.239 --> 0:55:25.879
<v Speaker 2>you got to add it from you follow They ranked

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<v Speaker 2>at number nine. They ranked it as the ninth most

0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:31.640
<v Speaker 2>powerful interview of that year. But in terms of peer reviews,

0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I think it got more than Jay and everybody of

0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.880
<v Speaker 2>that year that I'll never forget it after the second interview,

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:39.920
<v Speaker 2>not even after the second when I went to T

0:55:40.080 --> 0:55:41.920
<v Speaker 2>mobile because it was time to go to Africa and

0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 2>I want a T Mobile phone because they got a

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.799
<v Speaker 2>better international the brother you know, y'all give me your

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:50.080
<v Speaker 2>name getting the new phone. I got my hat. He said, up,

0:55:50.200 --> 0:55:54.479
<v Speaker 2>Umar Johnson, He said, Yo, what sure to do? I said?

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 2>He said, you're the one on the breklet. He said, bruh,

0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:02.920
<v Speaker 2>that interview is everywhere you look. I laughed, Yeah. He said, bruh,

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not playing with you.

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I ain't understand.

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.879
<v Speaker 2>Go on anybody's Facebook, anybody's Instagram right now, and your

0:56:08.960 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 2>interview is the thing right now right. And then that's

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:14.879
<v Speaker 2>when I had to step back and say, okay, they

0:56:14.880 --> 0:56:17.120
<v Speaker 2>were gonna start watching me now because they gonna say,

0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 2>who is this psychologist on him? More than the people

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:26.440
<v Speaker 2>we put out front. I was supposed to be back

0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 2>on Breakfast Club November. Shout out to Charlottmagne. He looked

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:31.799
<v Speaker 2>out for me, but I hit the high road, the

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.239
<v Speaker 2>highway late, and then he had to make a change

0:56:34.239 --> 0:56:35.680
<v Speaker 2>and asked me if I could come in a little early.

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:37.840
<v Speaker 2>It didn't work, so I'm just waiting for that, for

0:56:37.880 --> 0:57:00.120
<v Speaker 2>that next invite. But here's what I want to say.