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Speaker 2: How's it going, Peace and Love, black Man, thanks for

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Speaker 2: This is my second visit to Nashville. First visit was

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Speaker 1: For you, like from the YouTube views to people just

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Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask, because did you

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Speaker 1: Why you were doing that, I did see that they drill.

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Speaker 2: Pennsylvania State Board of Education charged me with presenting myself

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Speaker 1: Do you think some of that was to stop your momentum?

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Speaker 2: Do you have a harda you need the money because

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Speaker 2: going to market that as a conference center. So guess

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00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: what delta sigma beta. Guess what kappa ALPHASI guess what

432
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: omegasi five five beta sigma sibber Gammarrell say to phive

433
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: beta when y'all need a space to do a conference,

434
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: why are you giving a quarter of a million to Hyatt?

435
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 2: Why are you giving a quarter of a million to Hilton?

436
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 2: Why you're giving a quarter of a million to Best Western?

437
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: Where you can come here and give that quarter of

438
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: a million to us. You can operate our school for

439
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: the whole year if you do your camrat. It's a

440
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: nice school. It's modern modern, not old modern. We got

441
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: all the class space y'all need, We got all the

442
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: luncheon space y'all need. Let us do it and let

443
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 2: my students cater it with our hotel restaurant into a

444
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: hism school. You following what I'm saying, So I'm putting

445
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: organizations on a spot when we up and run it,

446
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: I better not catch you. You understand giving your money

447
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 2: to a white hotel where you got an independent school

448
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: with the facilities you need that you can go to

449
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: and it's Wilmington, thirty minutes from the Philadelphia airport, two

450
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,440
Speaker 2: hours from DC on the river, historic city. How can

451
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 2: you say nothing?

452
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: Do you meet any resistance? Are you still meaning resistance?

453
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: Or it was the building? Was that like a turning

454
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: point for the goal?

455
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: Was that for me? It was a turning point spiritually

456
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: a psychologically because stroudos five years brothers. Because of the

457
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: real estate racism. I kept coming into buildings that we

458
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 2: could afford, like the Philly building getting red line through racism.

459
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: There was a school in Trenton, New Jersey, red line

460
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 2: through racism. There was a school in Detroit, Michigan that

461
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: I really wanted, owned by Brothers. I didn't get that

462
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 2: building because they didn't want to work with me on

463
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 2: a price. We couldn't afford the whole thing, but we

464
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: could put down more than half right and pay the

465
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 2: rest off. They didn't work with us because we would

466
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: have been in Detroit. Right. Yeah, very good players. Yes,

467
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: I was about to go to Atlanta. There was a

468
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: black OneD church school in Atlanta. Wasn't quite what I wanted,

469
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 2: but Atlanta is a big doctor Umar City, So I

470
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: was gonna work with it, but then my mother fell ill,

471
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: so I couldn't make that relocation. Otherwise I would be

472
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: in Atlanta now. But I think it was all by

473
00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 2: divine design, because the Delaware building significantly better in terms

474
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: of amenities than any of the other ones.

475
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 1: Now, when you when you meet that racism real estate racism,

476
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: are there laws to govern that.

477
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: Yes, you're supposed to report it. You're supposed to report

478
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: it to the Feds. The Feds do the investigation. If

479
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: the Feds find that there was wrongdoing on the part

480
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: of the realtor, they will give you a certificate that

481
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: allows you to now go to a regular attorney and

482
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: suthe them for that discrimination. But because I've been so

483
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: busy between mom and school and everything else, I hadn't

484
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 2: had time to follow up on that. But I should have.

485
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 2: I just been so busy. But that's the way that

486
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: that goes. Yeah, you have to report it to the Feds.

487
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: They will look at it to see if it meets

488
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: the definition, and if it does, they now give you

489
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: the authority go get a lawyer and pursue them.

490
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let me ask you have you when you

491
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: first started out, I heard you mentioned some curriculum. I'm

492
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: gonna get you. They the poor curriculums of f DMG.

493
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: I don't mention math required, I don't mention language required,

494
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: I don't mention science required, and I don't mention social

495
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: studies to civics required. So on top of the required

496
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 2: there is agricultural and agronomical science, where we want to

497
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: teach them the science of how to live off the soil,

498
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: grow your own food. So right now we're actually scouting

499
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 2: property to buy about one or two acres of land

500
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 2: that will be used for the FDMG farm. Right, so

501
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: we got the agriculture agronomical Then we also got to

502
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 2: diet and nutritional so we want to teach them how

503
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: to eat the live So we will have home economics

504
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: that will be taught how to make food, understanding the

505
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: mineral and nutritional properties of what you eat and how

506
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 2: it impacts the body. So we basically want to take

507
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 2: the doctor saby science and put it into the minds

508
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: of our children so that every boy that graduates from

509
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: the school will be a walking, talking, nutritional doctor in

510
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: his own right. Then we got the political and military science,

511
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: which I'm going to teach the bulk of that, because

512
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: that is making sure they understand the way the world operates.

513
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: Why was Barack Obama made president? They need to know that.

514
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: Why is Africa the most literally rich continent in the world,

515
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: but the people are in the worst condition. They need

516
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 2: to know that.

517
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Ye ask myself, I don't even know that.

518
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: Bro Okay. When the white man colonized Africa, first they

519
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: were slavery. When slavery ended, colonization basically took off, right.

520
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: So first, we're gonna steal your people. Once we've done

521
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: making them work for free, We're gonna come into Africa

522
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: and make y'all work for free and rob you. Now,

523
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: there was a revolution to push the white man out.

524
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Kwame and Kruma of Ghana led the way, with Ghana

525
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: in nineteen fifty seven, becoming the first African country to

526
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: gain independence. Post Colonialism and post colonialism is basically a

527
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: a a a non emotional word, okay to describe a

528
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: very inhuman thing, such as the rape, exploitation in the

529
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: humanization of people in their indigenous habitat. See the man

530
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 2: puts words on things to kill the emotion behind it.

531
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: Somebody say slavery, Well, slavery. That don't sound too bad colonialism, no,

532
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: but when you see what they did, then that's what

533
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: makes the difference. So they pushed the white man out.

534
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: But on the way out the door, the white man

535
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: started sabotaging all the infrastructure that he built in Africa.

536
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: So guess what he was doing, blowing up his own buildings,

537
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: poison in the water, leave nothing. I'm gonna leave nothing

538
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: since y'all kicking me out. I'm gonna leave everything that

539
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: I built because I didn't build it for y'all, built

540
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: it for me to exploit y'all. So then the Africans said, wait,

541
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: we need these buildings, we need the rail road, we

542
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: need that, We need this shit with your door. The

543
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 2: white man said, well, if you need it, you got

544
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: to pay me. Whoa y'all been robbing that's for a century.

545
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: You done stole diamonds, gold, cot tan, oil, animals, plants.

546
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: What I got to pay If you don't want me

547
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: to destroy this any further, sign the contract that you're

548
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: gonna pay me for all this infrastructure. That's how Africa

549
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: got put into debt. When people say, if the white

550
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: man Robb does blind, why do we owe them all

551
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: African nations are in debt to European nations right now.

552
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: This very much everyone. Everyone, you say, how can that

553
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: be when they've robbed us of people and rob us

554
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: of how can we owe y'all? Because on the way

555
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: out the door, they were just shave pay me, I'm

556
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: gonna destroy you, destroy your whole infrastructure. Reluctantly, we had

557
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: no option, so we signed God and then the White

558
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: Man said, on top of paying me for this infrastructure,

559
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: if you need any money to build up your new

560
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: independent country, you need schools, you need hospitals, you need jobs,

561
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: you need factory, you need medicine, paper pens, pencils, whatever

562
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: you need. I'm gonna loan you the money. But here's

563
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: three things you gonna do. Number one, I'm gonna charge

564
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: you one thousand percent interests. If you ever want to

565
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 2: know why the more money Africa get, the worse off

566
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 2: Africa is, it's because the interest on the loan, you

567
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: can't pay it back in a million years.

568
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: It's too deep.

569
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: It's too deep to payer. So basically, you're not purchasing

570
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: a loan, you're purchasing slavery. Every time an African nation

571
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: accepts a loan from abroad, they are in essence giving

572
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 2: up a part of their freedom.

573
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: What are they getting loans for for infrastructure?

574
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: To just exact, because remember that when you took over

575
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: the country, you had no bank, you had no reserve,

576
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: you had no credit line. You feel me, It's like

577
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: I just came into this office right now and kicked

578
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: you out because you stole it from me. You start

579
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: blowing up all the speakers, and he said, all you

580
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 2: want me to leave it, you're gonna pay me for it?

581
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: Then you leave. I still got what you left, but

582
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: you did some damage to it. I got to repair

583
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: that and I got the build on because remember when

584
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 2: you was running my country, you only did what you

585
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 2: needed to do to exploit the resources. You didn't give

586
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: us no schools. You ain't give us no you can

587
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: give it. Hell, you would kid us if we didn't

588
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: you follow. So I need money. I ain't got no

589
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: line of credit. Because this is the first day of

590
00:31:59,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: the new country.

591
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the same individuals.

592
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: That destroyed you, ribs you raped, you, enslaved, you colonized you,

593
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: and take out a loan. So you know what they

594
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: gonna do. They gonna set the terms and set your

595
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: way that every time you come back from more money,

596
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: are you doing is giving me more control over your

597
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: decision making power. So the first thing they do is

598
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna charge you one thousand percent interest. This is

599
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: why with every loan, Africa gets in worse condition. With

600
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: every loan, Africa gets the worse. Second thing they gonna do,

601
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: they got something called structural adjustment programs. You know what

602
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: that means. That means we're gonna dictate how you're gonna

603
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 2: run your economy. And the first thing we're gonna dictate

604
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 2: is you must not prohibit any European businesses from coming

605
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: into your country to operate their businesses and sell to

606
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: your people. Why is that a problem because it means

607
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: I cannot protect any homegrown national industries. Let me give

608
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: you an example. You and Ghana, right, and Ghana. Let's

609
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: say you got palm oil sender God, you got salt

610
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: a Zambia, you got tea Nigeria, you got coffee. Right,

611
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: So you might say, I got my own coffee. I

612
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: don't need Maxwell House, I got my own tea. I

613
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: don't need lifting. I got my own salt, I don't

614
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: need Morton's. I got my own chicken. I don't need Purdue.

615
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: White man said, u uh. The terms of this loan

616
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: mean you must have a free market economy. Will you

617
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: hit the world free market economy? You know what that

618
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: means me?

619
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: Whoever had the most money wins exactly.

620
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: So guess what, I can't compete with Morton salt. They

621
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 2: can grow it quicker, they can refine it, they can

622
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: sell it. Check you follow. So now you got a

623
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: national company owned by the government competing in their own

624
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: country with a foreign company selling the same thing.

625
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: With government backing.

626
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: With government backing. So when you go to Africa, you say,

627
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 2: why are Africans in Senegal buying Morton salt from America

628
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: when Senegal is known for its salt, Because when Morton

629
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: comes to Senegal, they can sell the native salt industry

630
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: lower price, quicker, more, and they put you out of business.

631
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: That's why you got African country that grow tea, important

632
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: tea from Europe. You got your own chicken, you important

633
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: chicken from America. With all these chickens you got why

634
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 2: because you can't compete with them. They sabotage your economy.

635
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: Now you dependent on them. See that, now you dependent?

636
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 2: And then the third thing they do so you got

637
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: your structural adjustment, which basically sabotage your economy, thousand percent interests,

638
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: sabotage your freedom. And then they got this new thing

639
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: that came in under Obama. It was already there, but

640
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 2: Obama made it stronger, and that is population control planning.

641
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh yes, brother, Oh yes, you know what this means.

642
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: You want this money, You're gonna do three things. Number one,

643
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: birth control, abortion, and hysterectomy must be made freely available

644
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: to the women. Oh yes, you're gonna push birth control. Yes, yes,

645
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: you're gonna push contraceptives. Yes, yes, you're gonna push hysterectomy.

646
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: In fact, you're gonna pay black women to get their

647
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 2: insides taken Oh. Yes. When I was in South Africa,

648
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 2: I never forget it. Two thousand and five, my first time.

649
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: They have been there many times since. On the way

650
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 2: to the airport, there was a big billboard. It said

651
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: hysterectomies five hundred US dollars. We will pay you. Did

652
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: you hear that? You don't have to pay us. We're

653
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: gonna give you five hundred US dollars to get your

654
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: reproductive system taken out. And guess what, Because of the

655
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: economy that has been created in Africa by the white man.

656
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: A lot of our sisters go for it because economically

657
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: it's so stressful to live. African poverty is nothing like

658
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: Black American poverty. Go to the worst hood in America,

659
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: the worst hood. It can't compete with a ghetto in Johannesburg,

660
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 2: a ghetto in Ghana, a ghetto in Serie leone. Brother,

661
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: it don't even begin to compete with it. You see,

662
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: you're talking about poverty on a whole new level. So

663
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: you got a young black girl struggling, already got two kids.

664
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: White man saying, I give you five hundred dollars if

665
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: you let me take out your reproductives. But we ain't

666
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: gonna tell you is when you take out your reproduction,

667
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna put some cancer or some aids in you.

668
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: You see. So, and then the LBGT that's why that's

669
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: being pushed in Africa too under Obama. Remember was Barack

670
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: Obama who went to the president of Uganda in Liberia

671
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: and I think Tanzania, and I was in Liberia around

672
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 2: that time that that crisis kicked and Obama threatened many

673
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: African nations. Those are just three that come to mind,

674
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: because those presidents stood up and say, you don't come

675
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 2: here and tell us how to run our culture. We've

676
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: been around two This is the president of you gotta

677
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrase. He said, we've been around two million years.

678
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 2: Who are you to come to my country and tell

679
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: me that I have to make it legal for a

680
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: man to marry a man. We are African. That is

681
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: not how we build families. If y'all want to do

682
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: that in Europe or America, you do that in Europe

683
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: and America. And Obama said, if you don't make gay

684
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: marriage legal, we will cut off your aid. Here's the question,

685
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: why does an American president give a damn as to

686
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 2: whether or not an African country legalize his home sexuality?

687
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 2: Because through the legalization of homosexuality, you control the black

688
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: population growth. Homosexuality is both control. Lesbianism is birth control,

689
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: and it is a more powerful form of birth control

690
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: than any pill or any contraceptive. This is an extermination. See,

691
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: we've had four periods in our surjohin in America four centuries,

692
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: four periods sixteen nineteen, seventeen nineteen. That was a period

693
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: of shock. We was trying to understand what the will

694
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: is going or we never saw white folks before. A

695
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: lot of us. We just took a ninety day boat

696
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: ride through hell, sleeping in feces and menstrual blood and

697
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: shackle the dead bodies. And then you come out from

698
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: that a land you don't know, white folks you never seen,

699
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: giving you names you don't relate to, enforcing you to

700
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: do work without pay. We were in trauma. Brother, That

701
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: first century was trauma. Second century seventeen nineteen to eighteen nineteen,

702
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: that's when we begin to try to fight for our humanity.

703
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: Because remember, the European enslavement of the African is the

704
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 2: first slavery where the victim was stripped of their humanity. See,

705
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: people always say, why y'all keep talking about slavery. Everybody

706
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: been slaves. You ain't the first slaves. In fact, the

707
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: word slave comes from slave, which describes one of the

708
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: first European groups to be enslaved in Europe. Right, that's true,

709
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: we're not the first, but we're the only ones ever,

710
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: including biblical slavery, to be stripped of your humanity, to

711
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: be told that you are not a human being. So

712
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: our second century had to fight the proof we were

713
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: people and we forget that, A lot of black people forget.

714
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Before you could fight to be free, you had to

715
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: fight the proof that you are a person worvy of

716
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: the free. Yes, third century teen nineteen to nineteen nineteen,

717
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: that was a fight for freedom. That's from the birth

718
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: of Frederick Douglas to the rise of Marcus Garvey. That's

719
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,959
Speaker 2: your Nat Turner, that's your Harriet Tubman, that's your Shot

720
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 2: for Zulu, that's your Haitian Revolution. In fact, that century there,

721
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: the third one, eighteen nineteen to nineteen nineteen, I would

722
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: argue was our greatest century since the fall of the

723
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Great Kingdoms of Africa, because in that century you got

724
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: your Pan Africanism, most of your major slave revolts, your

725
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: greatest African and African American leaders, from Shahkazu to Frederick Douglas.

726
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: You follow what I'm saying, You see, that was our

727
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: century right there, That was it. We ain't done nothing

728
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: before or since in this country that we've done eighteen

729
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: nineteen to nineteen nineteen, from Douglas to Garvey. Can't touch it.

730
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 2: Then you got nineteen nineteen to twenty nineteen. I want

731
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: to split this in two. I want to go nineteen

732
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: nineteen to nineteen sixty eight assassination the King, and I

733
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: want to go to the assassination of King to today.

734
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: Right nineteen nineteen to nineteen sixty eight. We started off

735
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: with the same organized power we had coming out of

736
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: the third century. The movements was there, Garvey was there. Yes,

737
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, NAACP wasn't doing much for us, but it

738
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 2: got formed. The Black labor unions was coming. We was coming,

739
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: doctor King knock, them were coming. And then the white

740
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: man said in nineteen sixty eight, we got to stop

741
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: this because it is s threatening the status quote in

742
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: this country of white over black. Oh yeah, in one way,

743
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 2: in several ways. Let's go back twenty years nineteen fifty four. Right,

744
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: civil Rights Bill is sixty four. But they desegregated the

745
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: schools ten years earlier, fifty four. Why did they desegregate

746
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 2: the school This was the beginning. The fifty four was

747
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 2: the beginning. The reason they desegregated the schools wasn't for

748
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: us to sit with the white kids. It wasn't to

749
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: give us a better education. They were afraid that if

750
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 2: they did not kill independent black education, it was surpassed

751
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: white education. Remember that we were inventing things in that

752
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 2: one room black schoolhouse. White kids were not thinking about.

753
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: Remember the gas mask, You wasn't sitting next to white

754
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 2: folks when you invented that, the refrigerated truck. You wasn't

755
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: sitting next to white folks. When you invented that they

756
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: stop light. Who wasn't sitting next to white folks when

757
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: you invented that? When Charles Drew separated blood plasma, he

758
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 2: wasn't sitting next to white folks when he was a

759
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: child in school thinking about doing that. Rocky talkies and

760
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: baby carriages and ironing boards and golf teaser. White men said,

761
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: look at what these Nigro kids are creating. If we

762
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 2: don't kill this, they will intellectually dominate this country. Period.

763
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: That's why they desegregated the schools to crush the intellectual potential.

764
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: Of at least being able to steal from us.

765
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: Oh yes, and still, if I could sit.

766
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: Next to you, you know I can do exactly yeah.

767
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: Fifty four, sixty four, seventy four, fifty four, they integrated

768
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: the schools to kill black intelligence. Sixty four they gave

769
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: you the Civil Rights Bill once again. Why did they

770
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: do the Civil Rights Bill? The Civil Rights Bill was

771
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: not passed, so you can live with white folks and

772
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: date white folks and go to the hotels. You know

773
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: why I was passed, so that they could benefit from

774
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 2: the black dollar. Remember, until desegregation, you had Black Wall Street,

775
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: you had Tusa, you had Rosewood, you had Charleston, you

776
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: had Wilmington, North Carolina. You had all these pockets of

777
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 2: black economic power. White man said, that is a threat.

778
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: That is a threat.

779
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 2: That is a threat. So we're gonna desegregate and make

780
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: it look like this is for social justice.

781
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: We wanna keep it closed sound.

782
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: We gonna make it look like it's for social justice,

783
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: but we are really integrating for economic domination of black capital.

784
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: Look where we've been since desegregation. You can't show me

785
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: a black community in America. Mind you, we are two

786
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 2: trillion dollar people with the richest group of Africans in

787
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: the world, where the tenth richest economic nation on the planet.

788
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: You can't show me a community in America where black

789
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: people own a school to educate life, a hospital to

790
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: protect life, a supermarket to feed life, or a bank

791
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: to invest in life. This is why they desegregated, and

792
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: then sixty eight they assassinated Doctor King, the last visionary,

793
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: sincere leader of a mass, comprehensive movement for black folks

794
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: to change. When they kill King, they said, we got

795
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: to make sure we never get another one ever again. Now,

796
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: at the time that King was murdered, he was considered

797
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 2: the most dangerous black man in America. Now after the

798
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: murdered King, Jego, who had declared the panthers a few

799
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 2: years later as the number one threat to American national security.

800
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: But King was considered and I agree he was at

801
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 2: sixty eight after the death of Malcolm, after he visited

802
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: the grave of Marcus Garbye and Jamaica, he came back

803
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 2: preaching just like Garvey. If you listen to any of

804
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: doctor King's speeches. After he went to visit the grave

805
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 2: of the Honorable Marcus Garvey, those garvey Ice, those Jamaicans

806
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: got into him and he came back preaching Govey. And

807
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: that's why they said he got to go. Because the

808
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 2: man that we killed, Malcolm Fa became Malcolm. And you know,

809
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: Malcolm was a son of Garvey Ice. His mother and father,

810
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: Earl and Louise Little, used to run the un Ia chapter.

811
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: I believe in Lansing Michigan for the Honorable Marcus Garvey.

812
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: His mother used to write for the Nigro World Garvey paper,

813
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: so that yes, yes, Malcolm was a Davy Heike, Elijah

814
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: Poole was a Garvy heke. They all come from Garvey.

815
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 2: So they said, we got to make sure we don't

816
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 2: get another Doctor King. They said, how did doctor King

817
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: manage to pull this off without us financing him? Right?

818
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: They said, independent black businesses finance the civil rights woman.

819
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: White Man said yeah. They said, yes, So, so guess what

820
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: we gonna do. We're gonna go into the ghetto and

821
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna crush the independent black businesses. How you gonna

822
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: do that? Two things. Number One, We're gonna go into

823
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: the high schools. We're gonna go into Chattanooga. We're gonna

824
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: go to Memphis. We're gonna go to Nashville. We're gonna

825
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: go to Knoxville. And guess what we're gonna do. We're

826
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 2: gonna go to every black high school and take out

827
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: all the building trades. We're gonna make sure they cannot

828
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 2: be taught how to use their hands to feed their family.

829
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: Ever again. They took out auto shop, they took off

830
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: the electric program. That took out plumbing, they took out releving,

831
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: they took out HVAC. This is what they did. This

832
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: is what they did. This is the beginning of the

833
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: war between the black women and the black man. They

834
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: made the black man economically irrelevant to the black woman's life.

835
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: They said, this is how we're gonna kill black power.

836
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna set the family against each other. If we

837
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 2: can set the black woman against the black man, he

838
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: won't have time to fight us because he got the

839
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 2: fighter's own woman. So they went into the high schools

840
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 2: and took out all the building trades. Think about it,

841
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: before nineteen eighty, the black community was never about going

842
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: to college to take care of our family because we

843
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed in the colleges. So they would change this.

844
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 2: So why they taking away our economics by making sure

845
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: our boys ain't learning the skills that pay the bills.

846
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: Making sure our boys no longer learn the skills that

847
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: pay the bills. They started this college education propaganda. Go

848
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 2: to college, America is integrated. Now you could go to

849
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: Harvard and Stanford and Yale, and we sent our kids

850
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars loans go go failing to realize

851
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: that even though they got that degree, who gonna give

852
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: them a job? It was a trap. It was a trap.

853
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: So then in nineteen seventy they economically decimated us, and

854
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 2: then they took all the factories out the black community.

855
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: You go to most northern and Midwestern cities Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore.

856
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: You see old factories. That's where we used to work.

857
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: Good jobs made more than that we make now with

858
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 2: college degrees. They got rid of all them. That was

859
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, but they wasn't done. Nineteen eighties, CIA

860
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: drop off the crack cocaine boom. So now the black

861
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: man can no longer earn with his hands. He got

862
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: to make a decision with this crack. This is a

863
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 2: booming business. You can smoke it to deal with the

864
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 2: pain of not being able to provide for your family,

865
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 2: or you can try to sell it and provide for

866
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: your family. Either way and you're going to jail, which

867
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 2: takes us for nineteen ninety Bill Clinton Crime Bill, nineteen

868
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: ninety four boom. Look at this every decade since they

869
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 2: killed King, they didn't hit us. So the seventies, economic castration, eighties,

870
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: the crack, nineteen ninety Bill Clinton Crime Bill under a

871
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: Democratic president that black people consider to be one of

872
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: their Yeah, our bore, you got. Bill Clinton locked up

873
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: more Black men than any Republican president since reconstruction, mandatory

874
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: three strikes in, you out, mandatory federal minimum wages for

875
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: non violent drug related offenses, pick millions of black women

876
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: off welfare and the welfare the work program. And then

877
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,760
Speaker 2: he did something else under the table we wasn't even watching.

878
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: He criminalized child support. That was Clinton. Clinton did that.

879
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 2: That happened under Bill Clinton. Before Bill Clinton, you didn't

880
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: go to jail if you didn't have a job to

881
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 2: pay your child support.

882
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: Right.

883
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: He snuck that in. And the reason he was able

884
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: to snuck it in is because I don't think they

885
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: put the language directly in the crime bill. So the

886
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: black community didn't fight it because they didn't know that

887
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 2: that was part of the whole mix. Right, He criminalized

888
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: child support, So any black man with a child technically

889
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: technically is on parole. Any damn way. Ten more years,

890
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: we come to the year two thousand election of George W.

891
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: Bush for President. He comes in with the FBI Faith

892
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 2: Based Initiative where he finds a loophole in federal law

893
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: that allows him the fun Black Church. If you want

894
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: to know why, you ain't seen the Black Church involved

895
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 2: in any major struggle affecting black folks. Have you noticed

896
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: that you don't see the Black church dealing with police genocide.

897
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: You don't see the Black church doing with miseduitation. You

898
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 2: don't see the Black church dealer with unemployment. You don't

899
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: see the Black church dealer with mass incarceration. Can you

900
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: name one thing that the Black Church is at the

901
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: far front of changing for black folks? You can't why?

902
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: Because of y two K the new millennium came with

903
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 2: a new takeover of the Black Church. The federal government

904
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 2: now owns the Black Church FBI Faith Based Initiative. Your

905
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: pastor is the new snitch.

906
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: M Now that's d Now that's two What year was this.

907
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: Two thousand, which is also the same year that the

908
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: federal government decided that they were going to take back

909
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: all major cities from blacks in gentrifying back in the

910
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: hands of whites. Yep, that was why two K. You're

911
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: seeing it now, but it was decided twenty years That

912
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: was why two K. They unemployed us, they drug addicted us,

913
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: they mass and Carters incarcerated us. They neutralized the Black church,

914
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 2: and they took back the ghettos.

915
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: Now what the college proper ganda? Oh man?

916
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 2: Two million unemployed African American with masters and doctorate degrees.

917
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: That's what you got in America. I didn't say bachelor's,

918
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: I didn't say associates. I say masters. And this is

919
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: the top of the top. Brother, I occasionally get resumes

920
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: from lawyer's brother. Lawyer, law degree, licensed attorney.

921
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: I can't try to ask you to put them the

922
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: work trying to.

923
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 2: Put in the word man, we got to go back

924
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 2: to the skills.

925
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: So tell me with the school. Are you for your school?

926
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: Are you teaching the kids to leave school without needing college.

927
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: There's no college for FDMG.

928
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, because you still have to have your

929
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: black professional class. In other words, there's certain professions you

930
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: cannot practice without college degrees right right because of the structure,

931
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: because they require licenses and certifications that you can only

932
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: get if you have the credential. Right, medical doctor you

933
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: got to go to college. Lawyer, you gotta go to

934
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: co educated engineers, psychologists, pharmacists, you got to go to

935
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: colleg So for those children who want to be something

936
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: that requires college. We sending them. But for the ones

937
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: who ain't interested in that, why do they have to

938
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: do that? The issue is options. Know that you can

939
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 2: build your economic empire and legacy for your children's children's children.

940
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: You can do it without a college degree. Right. Don't

941
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 2: let nobody intimidate you and make you fearful of not

942
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 2: going to college in order to be successful. Because the

943
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 2: top one percent richest people in the world ain't never

944
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: set foot in the university.

945
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and a lot of people I know this

946
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: riches never never set foot in you.

947
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

948
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: So now that dude, that's loaded, Like, that's a lot

949
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: of shit. That's a lot of information. That's great information.

950
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this now with that being said,

951
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: because a lot of stuff, like I said, this stuff

952
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: has to get out to the masses. We need this information.

953
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: Back in I think twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

954
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: there was almost like a push for our youth, in

955
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: my opinion, again from the outside, from being boots on

956
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: the ground and not wrapped up in that industry stuff.

957
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: I see Doctor Uman breakfast club, I see Farah Khan

958
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: on breakfast club. I see Brother Polite on breakfast club.

959
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: I see uh you know Uman Land, I see human

960
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: one O six this, and then and then I don't

961
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: know if it was the LGBT stuff or something happened,

962
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: and then it was Booth Wilma's no longer own breakfast club.

963
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 2: He's not I don't gif was the curse. On the

964
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: one hand, the hip hop community knew that the youth

965
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: were beginning to become woke, so they said, if we

966
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: want to stay relevant, we gotta get We're gonna have

967
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: to somehow cater to this new woke movement because it

968
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 2: might overtake hip hop. Right, So if hip hop does

969
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: not get on top of the the whopeless might top

970
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: on hip hop. That's what brought us into that because

971
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: for the first time you had the people listen to

972
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 2: the gangster rat. But then they'll turn on some doctor Umar,

973
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 2: some John Henry Clark, right, So then the shot callers said,

974
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: look at this, Okay, we got to get out in

975
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 2: front of this because we don't need this backfiring on us.

976
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: So that's when they rode out the red carpet to

977
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: the conscious movement. First they let everybody else come. Of course,

978
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to be one of the last ones because

979
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 2: my message is too strong for mainz straight. So I

980
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: was at a Columbia, South Carolina, only been there once.

981
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: Brother walked up to my young brody. He said, you

982
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: need to be on the breakfast club. I said, brother,

983
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: I'm never getting on. He said, listen, take this car.

984
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: This is Charlemagne's. It was either Charlemagne's car to Charlemagne's agent.

985
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 2: He said, call him. I said, I give it a shot.

986
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: I said, bro, trust me, I'm too strong for the platform.

987
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 2: But sure enough I hit him and the brother said,

988
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: we've been wanting to do this. So we did the

989
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: first breakfast club right. I didn't think nothing of it.

990
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: Good interview, Charlemagne was cool, Envy was school went well good.

991
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 2: Brothers Angie left that thing, brother, That thing went viral.

992
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: That was twenty fourteen. I said, oh, you know what

993
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 2: I mean. Charla Maine was like, yeah, we got to

994
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 2: do it again. I said, let's do it. Came back fifteen,

995
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: viral again. I said two. Because it's the hip hoop mixed. Yes,

996
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 2: that's what this is. The last one. The crazy thing

997
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 2: about the last one was almost canceled. That's when I

998
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: got on a bright orange dat chiki. I was running late.

999
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: I called the queen who set up. I said, cancel this.

1000
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm on some strip in New York for traffic backed up.

1001
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: Envy and Charlottage said, tell them to come on the way.

1002
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: We gotta do it. Whatever we can get in, we're

1003
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: gonna get That was the shortest of the three because

1004
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: I was late, right, might have been thirty eight minutes.

1005
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 2: That one went more viral than the previous two. And

1006
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: if I don't got the stats on this, but I

1007
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: believe it is the most watched political interview in Breakfast

1008
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 2: Club history, and it's one of the most watched interviews

1009
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: period in Breakfast Club history. I would argue that that

1010
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 2: interview may have been watched more than any raper interview

1011
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 2: they did that year. You can't go off the Breakfast

1012
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 2: Club totals because people snatch it and repost it, so

1013
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 2: you got to add it from you follow They ranked

1014
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: at number nine. They ranked it as the ninth most

1015
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: powerful interview of that year. But in terms of peer reviews,

1016
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: I think it got more than Jay and everybody of

1017
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 2: that year that I'll never forget it after the second interview,

1018
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: not even after the second when I went to T

1019
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 2: mobile because it was time to go to Africa and

1020
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 2: I want a T Mobile phone because they got a

1021
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: better international the brother you know, y'all give me your

1022
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 2: name getting the new phone. I got my hat. He said, up,

1023
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,479
Speaker 2: Umar Johnson, He said, Yo, what sure to do? I said?

1024
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: He said, you're the one on the breklet. He said, bruh,

1025
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: that interview is everywhere you look. I laughed, Yeah. He said, bruh,

1026
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: I'm not playing with you.

1027
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: I ain't understand.

1028
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: Go on anybody's Facebook, anybody's Instagram right now, and your

1029
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: interview is the thing right now right. And then that's

1030
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: when I had to step back and say, okay, they

1031
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: were gonna start watching me now because they gonna say,

1032
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 2: who is this psychologist on him? More than the people

1033
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: we put out front. I was supposed to be back

1034
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: on Breakfast Club November. Shout out to Charlottmagne. He looked

1035
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 2: out for me, but I hit the high road, the

1036
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: highway late, and then he had to make a change

1037
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: and asked me if I could come in a little early.

1038
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 2: It didn't work, so I'm just waiting for that, for

1039
00:56:37,880 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: that next invite. But here's what I want to say.