Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're going
Speaker 1: to need somebody to add the curb your Enthusiasm music
Speaker 1: to that zoom in on Kim Mulky's face from LSU Kentucky.
Speaker 2: The other day. It's Tuesday, February twenty fifth, and on today's.
Speaker 1: Show, we'll be chatting with Sky and Silves of Shade
Speaker 1: Butter FC about their podcast origin story, how to make
Speaker 1: sure black and brown players feel safe and welcome in
Speaker 1: the soccer space, what to expect from this NWSL season,
Speaker 1: and early takeaways from the She Believes Cup, plus at
Speaker 1: All Star Trade, a twenty one year returned to the top,
Speaker 1: and back to back moments of trans joy. It's all
Speaker 1: coming up right after this welcome back slices. Here's what
Speaker 1: you need to know today. Let's start with the WNBA,
Speaker 1: where we've got news of a major trade. The Washington
Speaker 1: Mystics are trading two time All Star Aeriel Atkins to
Speaker 1: the Chicago Sky in exchange for the number three pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty five WNBA Draft. The Mystics also
Speaker 1: received the rights to swap first round picks with Chicago
Speaker 1: in the twenty time twenty seven WNBA Draft. As well
Speaker 1: as the Sky's second round pick in twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: This is the first major move we've seen the mystics
Speaker 1: new front office make since general manager Jamila Weideman and
Speaker 1: head coach Sidney Johnson were hired in December. Maybe they
Speaker 1: heard us talking about all the crickets we were hearing
Speaker 1: from the Mystics. Either way, Atkins was drafted to the
Speaker 1: Sticks out of Texas in twenty eighteen and was a
Speaker 1: member of the squad that won a championship a year later.
Speaker 1: There are now no more members of that Mystics title
Speaker 1: team left on the roster. Meish, Mystics are your squad?
Speaker 1: What's your reaction in three words or less?
Speaker 2: My fucking chest?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I as a sky fan, super psite for Ariel,
Speaker 1: but also a little bit concerned, but how much we're
Speaker 1: giving up to college hoops where we've got lots of
Speaker 1: movement in the AP rankings and for the third time
Speaker 1: in three weeks, a different team in the number one spot.
Speaker 1: The team this week Texas, marking the Longhorns first time
Speaker 1: at the top of the AP women's basketball rankings list
Speaker 1: in twenty one years.
Speaker 2: And if you're shocked by them making it to the
Speaker 2: top this year.
Speaker 1: I guess you don't listen to our show enough because
Speaker 1: Friend of the Show and Around the Horn producer Josh
Speaker 1: Bard dropped this bit of knowledge very early in the season.
Speaker 3: The team that I am most I would take interested
Speaker 3: in that I don't here talked about at the time
Speaker 3: the Texas Longhorns. I really liked Madison book On the
Speaker 3: way she played last year. I'm super excited to see
Speaker 3: her back.
Speaker 1: If this were Around the Horn, you'd get a couple points, Josh,
Speaker 1: But this is our show, so we'll just give you
Speaker 1: a little salute. Elsewhere in the rankings, Notre Dame, previously
Speaker 1: in the top spot, dropped to number three after losing
Speaker 1: to NC State on Sunday one oh four to ninety
Speaker 1: five in double overtime that marked the end of the
Speaker 1: Irish's nineteen game winning streak. NC State moved up four
Speaker 1: spots to number nine after that upset. UCLA, which held
Speaker 1: the top spot in the rankings for twelve weeks earlier
Speaker 1: this season but had dropped to number three, moved up
Speaker 1: one spot to number two after barely defeating unranked iOS
Speaker 1: sixty seven sixty five. Another highlight from the weekend included
Speaker 1: number seven LSU defeating Kentucky sixty five fifty eight despite
Speaker 1: the Wildcats Georgia Amore slicing through the d and making
Speaker 1: a sweet pass to Clara Strack for a bucket that
Speaker 1: had Kim Moulke making a face we will never forget. Lord,
Speaker 1: Please never let me be on the receiving end of
Speaker 1: that face for any reason.
Speaker 2: To soccer and the She Believes Cup.
Speaker 1: Sunday saw the US women's national team top Australia two
Speaker 1: to one in Glendale, Arizona, behind a goal from Lynn
Speaker 1: Biandolo formerly Lynn Williams in the very first minute of
Speaker 1: the game and a second half tally from Michelle Cooper,
Speaker 1: her first international goal.
Speaker 2: Now EMA has made a bit of program history in
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 1: She sent out a brand new eleven for the match,
Speaker 1: swapping out all eleven players who started the win over Columbia.
Speaker 1: It was just the sixth time in seven hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty eight all time matches and the first time since
Speaker 1: two thousand that the US women's national team starting lineup
Speaker 1: featured eleven changes in back to back outings. The US
Speaker 1: will face Japan for the She Believes Cup trophy on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: That'll be at snap Dragon Stadium in San Diego. We'll
Speaker 1: talk a little more, she believes cup later in the
Speaker 1: show with Silves in Sky to Tennis. We mentioned last
Speaker 1: week that Venus Williams was expected to play in her
Speaker 1: first WTA tournament in a year, the BNP Paribus Open
Speaker 1: in Indian Wells, California, after she was granted a wildcard
Speaker 1: for the event. Well not playing anymore or maybe not ever.
Speaker 1: During a speaking engagement in Denmark over the weekend, Williams
Speaker 1: told the crowd she wouldn't be playing in the event.
Speaker 1: Take a listen to what she said via audio captured
Speaker 1: by The Tennis Weekly podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually I found the announcement super amusing because I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, people seem to be happy.
Speaker 2: So I was like, maybe I just want to go
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure not going, I'm going. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 4: going to be like in overseas, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: be here. So I watched it out here.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 4: I just got to play her texting today too. Can
Speaker 4: you play doubles?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
Speaker 1: We sounded happy Venus because we were because we wanted
Speaker 1: to see you play again. Hilarious about someone texting her, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to have pop in on.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to be there to.
Speaker 1: The PWHL where we've got a battle between the top
Speaker 1: two teams tonight, the top ranked Montreal Victoire hosting the
Speaker 1: Toronto Scepters for what should be a good battle. When
Speaker 1: these two teams met last month, it went to a shootout,
Speaker 1: with Montreal going on to nab the win. Now, if
Speaker 1: Toronto pulls out the w in regulation, they'll move to
Speaker 1: the top of the standings, a huge turnaround after a
Speaker 1: rough start to the season. That game gets underway at
Speaker 1: seven thirty Eastern. We'll link to tune in info in
Speaker 1: the show. Notes to Track and Field. US Indoor Nationals
Speaker 1: were this past weekend, and friend of the show Nicki
Speaker 1: Hilts ran away with both the fifteen hundred meters and
Speaker 1: three thousand meter titles. In doing so, they became the
Speaker 1: first American to win five consecutive fifteen hundred meter national titles,
Speaker 1: a record that includes both indoor and outdoor nationals. With
Speaker 1: the results, Hilts qualified for the upcoming Indoor World Champs
Speaker 1: in Nanjing, China, but the twenty twenty four Olympians said
Speaker 1: they'll skip that competition to focus on the outdoor season.
Speaker 1: Hilts dedicated their wins to the trans community, writing on
Speaker 1: Instagram quote, as a national champion of a country so
Speaker 1: hyper fixated on hurting trans people at the moment, I
Speaker 1: want to dedicate these winds to the trans community. I
Speaker 1: couldn't be more proud to be non binary. Knowing I'm
Speaker 1: a part of such a beautiful community of trans and
Speaker 1: queer resistance fills me with so much pride and gives
Speaker 1: me strength on the start line. May this weekend be
Speaker 1: proof that we exist. We aren't going anywhere, and nobody
Speaker 1: can ban trans joy end quote. Way to go, Niki.
Speaker 1: We're taking so much joy from your winds too, especially
Speaker 1: when you cross the finish line.
Speaker 2: Muggin for the cameras. We love that, all right. We
Speaker 2: got to take a quick break when we come back.
Speaker 1: We caught it with Sky and Silves from Shade butter
Speaker 1: FC yesterday. Dot Combo is next to stick around slices.
Speaker 1: It's time for another group chat where we take the
Speaker 1: tea from the text and we put it on the airwaves.
Speaker 1: Joining us from Shaye butter FC. She's an engineer from
Speaker 1: Southwest Atlanta who grew up playing soccer at the YMCA
Speaker 1: and in high school and continued to be a fan
Speaker 1: of soccer as a viewer, but didn't see too many
Speaker 1: folks who look like her. She cares about amplifying the
Speaker 1: voices of marginalized folks, especially black women, and wants to
Speaker 1: help build community to dismantle the barriers that made it
Speaker 1: hard for her to flourish in soccer when she was younger.
Speaker 2: It's sky what's up, Sky Up?
Speaker 5: You've got the whole buyout?
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.
Speaker 1: Joining her, She's a higher education professional who lives in
Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 2: She was raised in Central Virginia.
Speaker 1: She's a child of the ninety nine ers, and her
Speaker 1: goal is to give a voice to those that often
Speaker 1: go unheard in the game and to infuse soccer in
Speaker 1: the States with the culture it has often excluded.
Speaker 2: It's Silves, what's up selves?
Speaker 4: That's so nice? Thank you? What's up?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: We got the Shade butter FC crew here.
Speaker 1: And I want to start by asking, like, how did
Speaker 1: you decide to create this podcast s? Guy?
Speaker 2: What was the impetus for it? Well?
Speaker 6: I think me and Silves met virtually online in twenty twenty,
Speaker 6: is that right?
Speaker 2: Soils?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh good?
Speaker 6: Pandemic in Pandemic, and I know for me at the time,
Speaker 6: you know, I had just gotten back into like paying
Speaker 6: attention to soccer. I used to watch it ridiculously and
Speaker 6: like you said, like you pointed out and reading my bio. Uh,
Speaker 6: I didn't fall in love with the game until I
Speaker 6: got to college and I saw the game with people
Speaker 6: who look like me, and I could see the culture
Speaker 6: and the vibes. So you know, I was getting back
Speaker 6: into it pandemic stuck at home online all the time,
Speaker 6: and I ran and cross paths with Sells, and I know,
Speaker 6: you know, around the time we interacted, we were like, oh,
Speaker 6: this should potentially start a podcast, but we didn't know
Speaker 6: what that looked like. And then Lo and Behol we
Speaker 6: would talk have takes online back and forth. And then
Speaker 6: Grego from Florida Culture United, he saw us interacting and
Speaker 6: he like hopped in our dms and.
Speaker 5: Was like, do y'all know each other?
Speaker 6: Y'all just started podcast And so that's how it got started.
Speaker 2: Shout out to a meddling man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I's yeah, and so suggested you know, we had
Speaker 6: talked about we could potentially do it this like put
Speaker 6: stuff together. We happed on a few shows and then
Speaker 6: we worked it out and then eventually the Farest podcast.
Speaker 1: Okay, so selves, how long did you guys do the
Speaker 1: podcast before you met in person?
Speaker 4: The first time was the first time we met the
Speaker 4: Seattle Courtly game.
Speaker 5: Yeah in person?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Seattle. We went to that doubleheader, So maybe
Speaker 4: we started in April. So that was like August.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's not bad people who literally are at it
Speaker 1: for a couple of years before they they end up
Speaker 1: in the same place selves, What did you think was
Speaker 1: missing in the space, Like, obviously during the whole twenty
Speaker 1: twenty lockdown, it didn't take much to get people to
Speaker 1: feel like content was needed from their mouths, but I
Speaker 1: think you guys probably had a little.
Speaker 2: Bit more intention with what you wanted to create that
Speaker 2: there was something missing. What was it?
Speaker 4: I think us right, just the the culture, the culture
Speaker 4: of sports that I grew up around. I you know,
Speaker 4: went to a probably black high school. I didn't have soccer,
Speaker 4: we didn't have money, so it was very much much
Speaker 4: considered an affluent sport. It's not something that we did.
Speaker 4: And so when I looked around, I just didn't see
Speaker 4: a lot of people that looked like me. And like
Speaker 4: you said, it not my bio. I'm a child of
Speaker 4: the ninety nine ers, right, like the summer of ninety
Speaker 4: nine in general changed my life. Between that and Serena
Speaker 4: winning her first major, you know, it was sort of
Speaker 4: like you could be it as a teenager. But sincerely,
Speaker 4: we didn't see a lot of players that looked like us,
Speaker 4: and if we did, they were very much pigeonholed into
Speaker 4: pace and power to a phrase to get to used
Speaker 4: a lot, and just sort of acknowledge for their athleticism
Speaker 4: and not their intelligence. And there was just so few
Speaker 4: that there wasn't a diversity of opinion, and people couldn't
Speaker 4: see these different talents. And you know, I knew working
Speaker 4: with younger people. I had worked with student athletes, I
Speaker 4: had worked with young lack women who played soccer, and
Speaker 4: just sort of seeing what was missing from the explanation
Speaker 4: of their game and what it meant to them and us.
Speaker 4: The rhythm of us, the movement of us, how we
Speaker 4: talk about sports, all of it was just missing, and
Speaker 4: so we wanted to bring that to the game if
Speaker 4: we could.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it feels very clear that the way
Speaker 1: we talk about sports with predominantly black athletes is very
Speaker 1: different than sports with predominantly white athletes across the men's
Speaker 1: and women's space. You talk about pace and power in
Speaker 1: a sport like baseball, it's always a very different way
Speaker 1: you talk about the white players and the black players.
Speaker 2: In a sport like football.
Speaker 1: The white guys that are fast are always like scrappy, Yes,
Speaker 1: scrappy and surprisingly athletic a Belichick receiver, right, Yeah, So
Speaker 1: you know sky with more players of color in US soccer,
Speaker 1: from the US one's national team to the NWSL, do
Speaker 1: you feel like the soccer culture has changed with the
Speaker 1: changing rosters or if it hasn't, what work still needs
Speaker 1: to be done to reflect the diversity that now exists
Speaker 1: that maybe wasn't there when you were growing up.
Speaker 5: I think it still has a long way to go.
Speaker 6: While you know there's now more exposure in the syst
Speaker 6: that you have stuff on TV, but you still have
Speaker 6: to pay for TV. I think we as a country
Speaker 6: miss the reality that soccer's bason can unity and culture,
Speaker 6: and so it's still coming from a place of affluence,
Speaker 6: and the barriers of access help have effectively impacted what
Speaker 6: the infrastructure is, whether it's media, whether it's how people
Speaker 6: are protected to like even how people ingested, right, you know,
Speaker 6: going to all I'm always reminded of a couple of things.
Speaker 6: When we went to championships, that NWSL championship games, people
Speaker 6: are always like, you know.
Speaker 5: Why are you supporting?
Speaker 6: Why are you why do you have a podcast for
Speaker 6: a white sport, a predominantly rich white people sport. And
Speaker 6: then you know there's this when you have that, when
Speaker 6: you've had like this barrier of access for hundreds of years,
Speaker 6: people have like this like visceral reaction of like I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna touch that sport because it's not for me,
Speaker 6: including white people. And so it's like, I think a
Speaker 6: big part of this is, you know, how do we
Speaker 6: make it more accessible, How do we get people empowered
Speaker 6: to feel connected to the game, and how are we
Speaker 6: welcoming the cultures different people and even get into the
Speaker 6: mindset of soccer's gonna look different when everybody can access
Speaker 6: it and touch it.
Speaker 5: So in that vein, I think we still have a
Speaker 5: long way to go.
Speaker 6: There has to be we can't like not have conversations
Speaker 6: about growing the game and just have it based in
Speaker 6: feminism and dismantling sexism. I mean, we got to talk
Speaker 6: about whit supremacy, and then coming back to racism, because
Speaker 6: that's all in the grains of the sport, right, and
Speaker 6: that's impacted everything in the process. So we still have
Speaker 6: a long way to go in terms of like making
Speaker 6: it welcoming so that people feel included. You know, are you,
Speaker 6: even as a team, marketing the players, I mean not
Speaker 6: beyond the players, but are you marketing the fans? Are
Speaker 6: you marketing to the different people in the communities you playing,
Speaker 6: particularly as a lot of NWSL teams playing in either
Speaker 6: pronominally black cities are largely black cities. Are you connecting
Speaker 6: with those different communities and cultures For people who aren't
Speaker 6: connected to the game, what are you doing to try
Speaker 6: to get them connected to people who look like them
Speaker 6: and feel in love the game?
Speaker 5: To get them connected?
Speaker 6: That's how I got fell in love with the game,
Speaker 6: you know, And so that those aspects in terms of
Speaker 6: like including culture and race and being real about those
Speaker 6: conversations and not just patting ourselves on the back because
Speaker 6: we got a deal or renown on TV taking those
Speaker 6: next steps. But then also as we're having more people
Speaker 6: of color, more black players, more brown players on teams,
Speaker 6: what are we doing to help them and protect them?
Speaker 6: Because a lot of the sport is still predominantly white, right,
Speaker 6: And are people being real about, you know, doing the
Speaker 6: work and make sure they're being real about their unconscious
Speaker 6: and conscious biases. Are they having the conversations and being
Speaker 6: welcoming or are people having to coast which I fumbled
Speaker 6: their way through the game that just exists.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean I think obviously that goes
Speaker 1: beyond just like media coverage or things like that. It
Speaker 1: also goes to leadership, right, And we've seen some teams
Speaker 1: that seem to be aware of that from the jump.
Speaker 1: Like I thought Angel City did a really nice job
Speaker 1: before they had a single player on their roster, they
Speaker 1: already had supporters groups for different backgrounds in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: understanding that they might reach out differently to the Latin community.
Speaker 1: Then the mothers bringing their kids to the game community, right,
Speaker 1: And they did a really smart job of finding those
Speaker 1: spaces before they ever had a game. And then there's
Speaker 1: other teams where it feels like they're really not understanding
Speaker 1: the potential for growth, the opportunity to bring in a
Speaker 1: new fan.
Speaker 2: They figure if they're not there yet.
Speaker 1: I remember being with the Red Stars and asking like,
Speaker 1: do we have any intentional outreach for the Latin community
Speaker 1: in Chicago, and they would show statistics and say that
Speaker 1: there was a high percentage of those fans that went
Speaker 1: to Chicago Fire games and were MLS fans, but weren't
Speaker 1: fans of the women's side, and they chalked it up
Speaker 1: to a cultural opinion about women versus men in sport.
Speaker 1: And it felt like such a cop out to say
Speaker 1: we can't go get them or find a way to
Speaker 1: appeal to them.
Speaker 2: They just aren't interested. It felt like every possible excuse
Speaker 2: for like why aren't there any women here? Oh, they
Speaker 2: don't want these jobs?
Speaker 1: And it's like, wait a minute, hold on, let's see
Speaker 1: where this pipeline slash outreach is failing. So Silves, does
Speaker 1: it feel like it's easy for y'all, particularly because this
Speaker 1: is such an intentional part of what you do in
Speaker 1: your podcast and your social commentary to look at different
Speaker 1: teams across the NWSL and say like they get it
Speaker 1: or they're not even trying.
Speaker 4: Yes, right, I So everything I've done sort of outside
Speaker 4: of this space, lets me talk about the space in
Speaker 4: a different way. I'm coming. I'm coming from sort of
Speaker 4: a social sciences and educators perspective. I've worked with young
Speaker 4: black students for over a decade, so this is the
Speaker 4: age group. There's so many young players coming and I'm like,
Speaker 4: those are the kids I've worked with all the time,
Speaker 4: and I say kids, I'm sorry, young adults, but I
Speaker 4: feel older every day because the players are getting younger.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I think you can definitely pinpoint. I think
Speaker 4: to your point, I am in Los Angeles, but I
Speaker 4: think they've done very well in terms of reaching out
Speaker 4: to those diverse communities, and it's consistent and it takes
Speaker 4: you know, work and building around that and building you know,
Speaker 4: positions around that, understanding from the top down, this is
Speaker 4: what you want, this is the buy and you want.
Speaker 4: And I will say that for them, they've done a
Speaker 4: really good job. I think there's a handful of teams
Speaker 4: I see DC you really kind of step it up
Speaker 4: in the past year or two and really doing fan
Speaker 4: outreach and trying to be more intentional and diverse. I
Speaker 4: think they had like an HBCU ban Night, like those
Speaker 4: kind of things that really I think are easy wins.
Speaker 4: And I think for a lot of the teams, they're
Speaker 4: in those markets where you can find those easy wins.
Speaker 4: We went to Kansas City, obviously for a championship weekend,
Speaker 4: and look at all the black history there. Right, we
Speaker 4: got to go to the you know, for me, one
Speaker 4: of the highlights of my life. I got to go
Speaker 4: to the Negro League Baseball Museum. I'm a baseball girl
Speaker 4: at heart, and so really going there and just kind
Speaker 4: of geeking out. But having all of those things be
Speaker 4: connected to this event, I think moments like that are
Speaker 4: a really good chance for teams and the league itself, right.
Speaker 4: I think the league has work to do, right. I
Speaker 4: think when you talk about both of the reports that
Speaker 4: came out, both the Gates report and then the combined
Speaker 4: report with the League and the PA, racism, particularly anti
Speaker 4: black racism, was a point of emphasis in those reports
Speaker 4: and how it's not being handled well, and part of
Speaker 4: that is reaching out to those communities. Being inclusive. Soccer
Speaker 4: is for everyone, or football if you want to do
Speaker 4: it though, way, it's for everyone. Right, It's not supposed
Speaker 4: to be an exclusive sport. It's supposed to be an
Speaker 4: inclusive sport. And so what are we doing day in
Speaker 4: and day out, team to team, but also across the
Speaker 4: league and across even our federation, what are we doing
Speaker 4: to make sure that that's the case. And I still
Speaker 4: think there's way more work to be done. But you know,
Speaker 4: shouting out those teams. I know, the Courage just did
Speaker 4: a shout out to our teammate. Even Eve did a
Speaker 4: piece for Black History Month. And so even looking at
Speaker 4: those easy wins, right, what are teams doing around Heritage
Speaker 4: Months things of that nature, kind of getting the easy
Speaker 4: wins while also working hard to build community with all
Speaker 4: the different people in your city.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some of this NWSL news
Speaker 1: as we're approaching this season before we dig in, we
Speaker 1: do probably need to draw some lines in the stand
Speaker 1: about where our allegiances lie. I'm always gonna have a
Speaker 1: soft spot for Chicago, any Chicago teams. So the Red
Speaker 1: Stars slash the Stars with the rebrand, and then I'm
Speaker 1: part of the Angel City Impact Fund and have really
Speaker 1: connected with their ownership group and a lot of the
Speaker 1: folks that work over there.
Speaker 2: So Angel City is always a little bit of a
Speaker 2: side piece.
Speaker 1: Uh what n w s L teams are we are
Speaker 1: we riding for or do we claim any allegiance to Silves?
Speaker 4: I'm a Seattle rain fan, Okay, Sky, I'm a fan
Speaker 4: Free agent. Okay, don't.
Speaker 2: Merch give me.
Speaker 6: I will be an influencer Angel City. I mean too
Speaker 6: of my favorite players play Christian Press and Sydney Room.
Speaker 6: But then also I do I do have affinity for Lando, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Secretly love you guys.
Speaker 1: Also do a lot of like international conversation, which on
Speaker 1: our show, I mean, we're trying to cover every single sport,
Speaker 1: so we can't also go chasing these players around Europe.
Speaker 1: This wine pissed at them leaving. I'm happy for them,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, stop going somewhere. I'm not gonna watch
Speaker 1: you over there.
Speaker 2: I don't have time.
Speaker 1: But you have like a favorite footballer, either domestically or
Speaker 1: an internationally sky.
Speaker 6: I'm a fan, free agent, Okay, find it Manchester United
Speaker 6: when they act right, Okay, and then uh T Gris.
Speaker 5: Of League of Mickey Feminil okay, and.
Speaker 1: Any players in those teams that are like your standouts,
Speaker 1: or just any player internationally that you're like, Okay, I'll
Speaker 1: make some time to go watch that, even if it's
Speaker 1: just highlights.
Speaker 6: Jackie Olvy of Tigris, I mean, come to Angel City,
Speaker 6: come to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Well, it's tough to recruit when you're an alleged free agent.
Speaker 1: But if you want to keep switching back and forth,
Speaker 1: we'll allow it. Uh Soaps, what about you internationally.
Speaker 4: I'm just laughing because you're experiencing this guy. We all
Speaker 4: experience right now. Internationally, I'm a I'm a I'm a
Speaker 4: blue cotels the up, the cheels and goodness. I mean,
Speaker 4: so many international players that I love. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I always have a soft spot for Lauren James, so
Speaker 4: I think, okay for me, she's up there. I'm a
Speaker 4: big fan of Katoto at least for now.
Speaker 2: PSG.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I could talk about international players all day.
Speaker 4: But I'm a very happy Chelsea fan because we got
Speaker 4: Naomi Germa, so.
Speaker 1: I know, right, and I hate even thinking about Naomi
Speaker 1: playing over there where I can't watch Sky. You do
Speaker 1: Shaey Butter superlatives on your show. We're gonna do a
Speaker 1: slightly different version here with the superlatives of the NWSL
Speaker 1: off season. So I'm springing these on you so you
Speaker 1: could take a second to think about it. But I
Speaker 1: want to know, off the top of your dome, best
Speaker 1: player move, like the move that you think served the player,
Speaker 1: best and best team move in terms of acquisition or
Speaker 1: trade or coaching higher.
Speaker 6: What will be me Slti's talked about this before. Will
Speaker 6: be a sneaky good acquisition is Yasmine Ryan in Houston.
Speaker 6: I think people forget in the she's won two championships,
Speaker 6: all right, Uh, she was a really important player, whether
Speaker 6: it be a Gotham or the be at Portland. So
Speaker 6: her now and that team in Houston, I mean they
Speaker 6: went from being what is happening to Houston.
Speaker 2: They're making moves.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's nice to see.
Speaker 6: I think Yasmy Ryan will be pretty dope. And I
Speaker 6: mean even as you've seen in the national team yesterday,
Speaker 6: in the game before, like how she plays, I think
Speaker 6: she's been madly underrated, so to see her rocket Sean
Speaker 6: will be pretty dope.
Speaker 2: So you've got a player move or team move that
Speaker 2: you particularly like.
Speaker 4: It's been a super interesting off season. I think the
Speaker 4: league's gone really international, so there's a lot of players
Speaker 4: that you're like, huh, that could work right, you know,
Speaker 4: see what they're trying to do. Having said that, I
Speaker 4: think the really big move I'm really interested to see
Speaker 4: what Jayden Shall looks like in North Carolina. I think
Speaker 4: her and Ashley Sanchez hooking up is going to be
Speaker 4: super interesting. I like to call it saucy. I think
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of sauce there, and you know,
Speaker 4: maybe have talked to them recently and so just seeing
Speaker 4: what they're you know, cooking up or what they're excited
Speaker 4: to cook up with one another. But yeah, I think
Speaker 4: that that was a really big move. You still have
Speaker 4: a really young player developing and you know, trying to
Speaker 4: push herself in a in a system where they possess
Speaker 4: quite a bit, and so really trying to see how
Speaker 4: they'll use her. Yeah, I'm really excited about that one.
Speaker 1: I would say an obvious move that's gonna get my praise.
Speaker 1: My praise is going to be, of course, Kansas City
Speaker 1: reopping Tim Wachawenga. Just making tem Will feel good and
Speaker 1: making tem will want to stay there and resign, that's
Speaker 1: an obvious one. You all were at NWSL media days,
Speaker 1: Silves you just mentioned maybe getting a chance to talk
Speaker 1: to some players tease some of that content. Y'all put
Speaker 1: out some videos and coverage, Like what are some of
Speaker 1: the things that you learned or talked to players about
Speaker 1: from those those.
Speaker 2: Couple of days in LA.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really cool. It was in WSL's first
Speaker 4: media day, so it's two days in Los Angeles. They
Speaker 4: kept it in Los Angeles, which is really nice. This
Speaker 4: is not so long after the fires had done most
Speaker 4: of their damage, so it was nice to have that
Speaker 4: support and stuff have them come in. We did everything.
Speaker 4: We did everything from you know, Commissioner Berman gave us
Speaker 4: about an hour, which is very rare for her, so
Speaker 4: we were able to ask some questions, not all obviously,
Speaker 4: but yeah, we got to interview some of the players
Speaker 4: we talked about, like Ashley Sanchez, like Jade and Shaw.
Speaker 4: We got the exclusive on the Thompson's extending, so they
Speaker 4: kind of had to sit on that, but that was
Speaker 4: really cool. It's always nice to interview them. Got some
Speaker 4: answers about some some new looks maybe from Cherni Raman
Speaker 4: and Jade and Shaw and let's see. Alie Watt's always
Speaker 4: a really fun interview. I think she has a very good,
Speaker 4: good and healthy perspective on sort of where she is,
Speaker 4: where she wants to improve. She always fun, she wants
Speaker 4: to make you laugh. The surprise person for me was
Speaker 4: Alyssa Malanson. She's just very good, very good rapport with
Speaker 4: the media, and she gave us some information about the
Speaker 4: other sport that she played or that she participated in
Speaker 4: when she was little and maybe with someone famous. So well,
Speaker 4: wait and drop that.
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a tease. Look at you not
Speaker 1: giving us the good stuff. You said you have to
Speaker 1: come over to shape outter APC to get that sky.
Speaker 1: Are there any players you're most excited to see this
Speaker 1: NWSL season, Whether that's because they're sort of up and
Speaker 1: coming and you think this is gonna be another big.
Speaker 2: Year of growth, or maybe just one of your fabs.
Speaker 5: Hmm, let's see.
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 6: I mean, as a not Angel City fan, I would
Speaker 6: like to see what's going to happen, just because I
Speaker 6: thought they've had a roster, they just needed better coaching.
Speaker 6: So what does it look like when you have a
Speaker 6: system where they can just cook right? And even in
Speaker 6: the little preseason game, I could see a little bit
Speaker 6: what they're doing and I'm like, okay, so what does
Speaker 6: the starting lineup look like? And how's that going to
Speaker 6: cook people to death? Or you know, in the case
Speaker 6: of what does it look like for Orlando now did
Speaker 6: nobody surprise? What does it look like for Washington DC?
Speaker 6: The spirit in Kansas City? What does it look like
Speaker 6: when everybody is not surprised. I think a wild card
Speaker 6: is Utah because they now are at and like you know,
Speaker 6: Ali sendinor and Uh Danaka are on the same team.
Speaker 6: They are falling in this tournament. Yep, we gotta deal
Speaker 6: with that as a as a league. So I mean
Speaker 6: those those teams, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1: For sure, yeah, Utah, Like I'm not I'm sorry to you, Utah,
Speaker 1: but I forget you exist all the time, and I
Speaker 1: hope that this year that changes. That's like a dick
Speaker 1: thing to say, but like I'm always like, oh yeah, Utah,
Speaker 1: Like I just we'll see if this is the difference
Speaker 1: you mentioned. They've got some some some players that can
Speaker 1: really bring it. I mean bangers wise too. Ali sentiner
Speaker 1: like there was some statistic that five of her six
Speaker 1: international goals have all been uh have all been bangers.
Speaker 2: Like she just she can she can shoot from anywhere.
Speaker 4: No, she can't shoot from inside the box.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she can she can only shoot from outside. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there we go, speaking of silves.
Speaker 1: At the time we're recording, this US women's national team
Speaker 1: sits second out of the four team in the she
Speaker 1: believes Cup. Japan's in the top spot because a goal
Speaker 1: differential the US is one. I think six out of
Speaker 1: ten of these She Believes Cups. But Japan is looking
Speaker 1: real good. This is the big head to head happening
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Who do you think might come up big?
Speaker 1: And who do you think is gonna win that match?
Speaker 4: Japan doesn't have to win that match like we have
Speaker 4: to win that match, So I'm very interested to see
Speaker 4: how this young core performs in a must win situation.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you. I think Japan's gonna
Speaker 4: take it.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wouldn't be surprised a part, because it does
Speaker 2: feel like this is.
Speaker 1: Not to dog the She Believes Cup, But it's not
Speaker 1: the most important thing for the US woman's national team
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: It's finding out what these young stars can do. It's
Speaker 2: understanding that the Triple Espresso is out. It's getting used
Speaker 2: to a new keeper.
Speaker 1: After the Elissainae or Rain that felt safe and secure
Speaker 1: and warm and snugly, and now we have to get
Speaker 1: used to her not being back there. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it feels like, of course they always want to win,
Speaker 1: and when they're out there, they're going to go for
Speaker 1: a win. But Emma Hayes is looking to see a
Speaker 1: lot like who plays well together and what it looks
Speaker 1: like with these young folks. Sky y'all mentioned on your
Speaker 1: show that she seems to be very intentional about keeping
Speaker 1: the pressure off of Lily Johannes. She's sort of pushing
Speaker 1: people off of the high praise that even after that
Speaker 1: first match against Columbia looked like she was deserving of.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's just Emma reading something about Lily
Speaker 1: and what she needs at this stage.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure she needs to start on if we're winning,
Speaker 6: she needs to start on Wednesday. So uh yeah, I
Speaker 6: guess she's trying to, like, you know, timper expectation is
Speaker 6: trying to take her along. But man, she look like
Speaker 6: she'd been out there for years the best midfielder, and
Speaker 6: like in this case, particularly playing Japan, I was just thinking, like,
Speaker 6: how I see the game is I can lay your things.
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess fight rec memory, but I can
Speaker 6: see things. I'm discerned about our back line in midfield
Speaker 6: against Japan. I mean, even Colombia experience it really quickly
Speaker 6: right where it was like boom boom boom, where it's like,
Speaker 6: oh no, we're now multiple goals. Uh that could happen
Speaker 6: to us, particularly if you know Japan, they start slipping
Speaker 6: into different channels.
Speaker 5: Andami Grommer's not back there.
Speaker 6: Uh And like you know, Lily would help a long
Speaker 6: way because I'm the I think they struggled on the
Speaker 6: yesterday with like the midfield, it was all over the place.
Speaker 5: I would bring her in.
Speaker 6: I mean, you want to see if people could ball? Yeah,
Speaker 6: I mean sometimes you have a young fema, a feenom
Speaker 6: who you let go and prosper. And in this case,
Speaker 6: I understand trying to protect her, but she's ready. She's
Speaker 6: been She's been in professional for a couple of years
Speaker 6: in professional. Yeah, and she's also been in Champions League.
Speaker 6: So and she and I mean she was throwing grown woman,
Speaker 6: so her cook. But I get trying to protect her
Speaker 6: in the process, but that's probably part of it.
Speaker 1: Did you just quietly try to drop real quick? I
Speaker 1: guess I have a photographic memory? Uh?
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I do.
Speaker 2: I've had where else where else are we using that?
Speaker 2: Give me?
Speaker 6: I mean an engineer, I'm an engineer, so like that's
Speaker 6: how I got through school. I mean, but how I
Speaker 6: see the game because people will go you know, what
Speaker 6: do you think games will look like and I'm like,
Speaker 6: and I can recall different games from the past and
Speaker 6: layer them and then I know, I remember when I
Speaker 6: guess it was Leon playing uh Barcelona that year, so
Speaker 6: if you remember that one in the Champions League and I.
Speaker 2: Was like, like, no, I sure don't.
Speaker 4: I had to say that game last year. I don't
Speaker 4: want to.
Speaker 5: No, no, not that one but the year before.
Speaker 6: But basically, yeah, I had said, I think Leon wins
Speaker 6: because of they had the game plan for when in
Speaker 6: the i c C. Portland played uh not not Bad
Speaker 6: Houston played Barcelona and they n W selled them. And
Speaker 6: I was like, if they use that game plan, they're
Speaker 6: probably gonna mess around and win.
Speaker 5: It's sure enough. They won that game. And and the
Speaker 5: reason I had.
Speaker 6: Said is because I saw the struggles they had against
Speaker 6: Houston at the time, where they were like Jeklin Hode.
Speaker 6: They'd possessed and then they'd be like, we just go
Speaker 6: go play direct, switch it up. But it caused Barcelona
Speaker 6: problems and that's basically what they did that year they one.
Speaker 6: So I mean it comes in ways like that, but
Speaker 6: it's helpful in terms of recall of variety of things,
Speaker 6: particularly when we talk a build a community, you know,
Speaker 6: being aware of you know, things that have happened to
Speaker 6: me in the past, but then other people.
Speaker 5: So yeah, but other than that, I use that as
Speaker 5: an engineer.
Speaker 2: All right, let's put that to the test.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see this rematch of Orlando Pride and Washington
Speaker 1: Spirit in the NWSL Challenge Cup coming up on March seventh,
Speaker 1: that's ahead of the start of the regular season rematch
Speaker 1: of the championship game.
Speaker 2: What do you expect from the rematch based on.
Speaker 1: What you saw in the title game, either one of us, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Skuy's got that layering mechanism's good on
Speaker 1: top of the images in her brain from the last matchup,
Speaker 1: and then swap out the trades, and.
Speaker 6: I mean it's preseason, so I gotta be mindful like
Speaker 6: you still is. I don't know if Kroy is now
Speaker 6: clear to play, because I think if.
Speaker 1: Yeah, expected back, although I don't know if we've gotten
Speaker 1: the you know, for sure opening day March seventh.
Speaker 6: And then I mean even DC got added players, and
Speaker 6: then well then oh wait, but then on the flip side,
Speaker 6: Orlando added players, so I don't know, it could be
Speaker 6: all all out brawl playing It could be like a total.
Speaker 6: It could be very much preseason y, like give me
Speaker 6: ten to eight score line me no defense. It could
Speaker 6: be very much like that, just sauce sauce sauce, or
Speaker 6: could be a defensive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, usually with Orlando with that, with that defense, they're
Speaker 1: going to keep it pretty tight. But yeah, let's talk
Speaker 1: about Kroy bathunemselves, because gosh, we just love watching her.
Speaker 2: The style is insane and she's a fun interview really
Speaker 2: really just likable person.
Speaker 1: She got to sit and watch her team through the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and sometimes that can help you get to watch and
Speaker 1: really come back into it with a different perspective. Do
Speaker 1: you think that she comes back even stronger somehow, even
Speaker 1: though she missed that time, because she's now both approaching.
Speaker 2: The game from within and being able to have that
Speaker 2: outside perspective.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I think so. Again, we've talked about this
Speaker 4: and maybe you know, we bring this back to one
Speaker 4: of the reasons we start this show is because I
Speaker 4: liken the idea of the black midfielder to the black quarterback, right,
Speaker 4: this idea that these positions of intelligence cannot be played
Speaker 4: by us, And I think Kroy very much shatters that.
Speaker 4: She's not the only one, obviously, but I just think
Speaker 4: she's so incredibly intelligent. She has the ability to anticipate.
Speaker 4: I've gotten to speak with her former college coach a
Speaker 4: couple of times, and you know, he mentioned she was
Speaker 4: a point guard, right, and so her ability. There's one
Speaker 4: goal she scored maybe against San Diego I can't remember
Speaker 4: last year, when the ball at the FLEC's back. She's
Speaker 4: so able to read the path of the ball, get
Speaker 4: on in it either she assistter scores that goal. And
Speaker 4: I think being able to sit on the sidelines and
Speaker 4: watch that honestly, as your midfield kind of gets depleted,
Speaker 4: like they had a lot of injuries toward the end
Speaker 4: of the year, at adding Narumi to that midfield to
Speaker 4: really be able to hold that space right Obviously, is
Speaker 4: Andy Sullivan is both injured in now pregnant.
Speaker 2: Congragn to her.
Speaker 4: Andy's a really good seat to Congrats to her. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I think she'll come back stronger. I don't think it's
Speaker 4: an injury that will take a ton of time for
Speaker 4: her to get sort of reacclimated. When she's able to
Speaker 4: go back into the lineup, and now she has these
Speaker 4: weapons right that she didn't really get to play with
Speaker 4: ESSI sentos. I guess they'll officially announced Bernal at some point,
Speaker 4: but she'll have Bernald at the back, who's also kind
Speaker 4: of a playmaker. That's in her back positioner she can
Speaker 4: push up. Obviously, you still have you know, Trinity Huntman,
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the world up top,
Speaker 4: and they'll get starbacks. You have a lot of goal scorers,
Speaker 4: she has a lot of opportunities to distribute the ball.
Speaker 4: And the truth is it didn't look all that hard
Speaker 4: for her in her rookie year, right, she pretty much
Speaker 4: swept the awards she could sweep. And so now you're
Speaker 4: giving her time to rest, to observe from the sideline,
Speaker 4: to have those conversations with her coaching staff and other players,
Speaker 4: to develop those relationships and training when she's back. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I think she's actually more scary, and I think she
Speaker 4: wants to actually break that record and not just be
Speaker 4: tied with Tovein. So I think she's coming back hungry. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't, and I don't think Toven would mind that. Actually,
Speaker 4: I think that's quite a big chord with the advance.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, we heard you guys drop some merch, So
Speaker 1: tell us what the folks can get out there and
Speaker 1: how they can get some sky.
Speaker 6: Well, so we are dropping a marchlan. It's celebrating SBCUS
Speaker 6: and so we have a march lin like that's reflected
Speaker 6: around black It's not just Black history, most his Black
Speaker 6: History Year, because Black history is important all the time.
Speaker 6: And basically we have different sharts that have the colors
Speaker 6: of various ICBCUS and ICBCU organizations. Wink weink that we
Speaker 6: are showing love of proceeds of the this line will
Speaker 6: actually support the United Negro College Fund. And so I
Speaker 6: mean for us, you know, SBC culture was a part
Speaker 6: of both of us growing up.
Speaker 5: I grew up in Atlanta.
Speaker 6: My mom uh worked and went to school in the
Speaker 6: Atlanta Atlanta University Center, Clark, Atlanta. But I mean, hey,
Speaker 6: I he was at Stone College nursery school growing up.
Speaker 6: But I grew up in the Atlanta HBCUs, so you know,
Speaker 6: spelling Morehouse I was. My my mom went to more
Speaker 6: House School of Medicine. I mean, you know that's been
Speaker 6: part of life and culture. And then growing up in
Speaker 6: Atlanta predominantly black everything. I mean, it's so like those
Speaker 6: schools and the culture and everything about them are so important,
Speaker 6: and so sharing that information and helping to connect people,
Speaker 6: uh to how important those things are. And then beyond that,
Speaker 6: we also have different I guess in the theme of
Speaker 6: Black History Month type of march for our different brands,
Speaker 6: So for s Ash Butter Walk in ninety and in
Speaker 6: Florida Culture United.
Speaker 4: So for people who don't know, HBCUs is short for
Speaker 4: Historically Black Colleges and Universities. So these are schools that
Speaker 4: were founded during essentially reconstruction before the Meryl Act. That
Speaker 4: could very much nerd out about land grant institutions, but
Speaker 4: they were founded because at the time we lived under
Speaker 4: separate but equal laws, and these were institutions of higher
Speaker 4: education founded specifically for black people, usually by some sort
Speaker 4: of Protestant religion if they weren't state run. So really
Speaker 4: supporting that. And many of those schools have men's and
Speaker 4: or women's soccer programs as well, so really just making
Speaker 4: sure we're bringing attention to those programs. This guy said,
Speaker 4: we're both from those worlds. I grew up across the
Speaker 4: street from Virginia State University. My father was an assistant
Speaker 4: band director there for most of my life. You know,
Speaker 4: it's only retired in the past few years. So I
Speaker 4: grew up going on bus trips on weekends, you know
Speaker 4: with my father.
Speaker 2: That's what did you play?
Speaker 4: I was trumpet, uh French and French Heart, and then
Speaker 4: my senior year I was actually a drum major and
Speaker 4: it was all women. We were all three women, So yeah,
Speaker 4: it was really cool. So yeah, I grew up Seattle.
Speaker 2: Scot got you in the supporter section on the drums
Speaker 2: during games.
Speaker 4: I am such a bad, bad fan. I don't really
Speaker 4: do sgez so, but yeah, I could probably hop on
Speaker 4: and I've drummed. Yeah, I've drumped a few times at
Speaker 4: a tailgate and I can keep a rhythm, So yeah,
Speaker 4: I enjoy that. But really just that's part of the culture.
Speaker 4: We're trying to bring in sort of that camaraderie, you know,
Speaker 4: the music, the social aspect. That's the kind of thing
Speaker 4: that we are, you know, trying to bring to the sport.
Speaker 4: That's the kind of thing we grew up with and
Speaker 4: there's no reason it can't be in this sport. But yeah,
Speaker 4: this line is to help, you know, bring awareness to that.
Speaker 4: And like Sky said, we'll be giving it to UNCF,
Speaker 4: which is the United Negro College fund, which has been
Speaker 4: around for a very very very long time. I grew
Speaker 4: up with Lou Rawls telling me mind is a terrible
Speaker 4: thing to waste.
Speaker 2: I remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See awesome.
Speaker 1: Well, folks can go find that merch and of course
Speaker 1: can listen to Shaye Better FC, follow you on social
Speaker 1: and follow along with the chatter about the games and
Speaker 1: everything around the culture of soccer.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for taking the time of chat.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having us on.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks again to Sky and Silves for joining us.
Speaker 1: We got to take another break see on the other side.
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