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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're going

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Speaker 1: to need somebody to add the curb your Enthusiasm music

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Speaker 1: to that zoom in on Kim Mulky's face from LSU Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: The other day. It's Tuesday, February twenty fifth, and on today's.

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Speaker 1: Show, we'll be chatting with Sky and Silves of Shade

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Speaker 1: Butter FC about their podcast origin story, how to make

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Speaker 1: sure black and brown players feel safe and welcome in

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Speaker 1: the soccer space, what to expect from this NWSL season,

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Speaker 1: and early takeaways from the She Believes Cup, plus at

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Speaker 1: All Star Trade, a twenty one year returned to the top,

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Speaker 1: and back to back moments of trans joy. It's all

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Speaker 1: coming up right after this welcome back slices. Here's what

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Speaker 1: you need to know today. Let's start with the WNBA,

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Speaker 1: where we've got news of a major trade. The Washington

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Speaker 1: Mystics are trading two time All Star Aeriel Atkins to

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Speaker 1: the Chicago Sky in exchange for the number three pick

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty five WNBA Draft. The Mystics also

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Speaker 1: received the rights to swap first round picks with Chicago

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Speaker 1: in the twenty time twenty seven WNBA Draft. As well

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Speaker 1: as the Sky's second round pick in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: This is the first major move we've seen the mystics

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Speaker 1: new front office make since general manager Jamila Weideman and

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Speaker 1: head coach Sidney Johnson were hired in December. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: heard us talking about all the crickets we were hearing

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Speaker 1: from the Mystics. Either way, Atkins was drafted to the

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Speaker 1: Sticks out of Texas in twenty eighteen and was a

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Speaker 1: member of the squad that won a championship a year later.

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Speaker 1: There are now no more members of that Mystics title

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Speaker 1: team left on the roster. Meish, Mystics are your squad?

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Speaker 1: What's your reaction in three words or less?

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Speaker 2: My fucking chest?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I as a sky fan, super psite for Ariel,

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Speaker 1: but also a little bit concerned, but how much we're

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Speaker 1: giving up to college hoops where we've got lots of

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Speaker 1: movement in the AP rankings and for the third time

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Speaker 1: in three weeks, a different team in the number one spot.

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Speaker 1: The team this week Texas, marking the Longhorns first time

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Speaker 1: in twenty one years.

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Speaker 2: And if you're shocked by them making it to the

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Speaker 2: top this year.

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Speaker 1: I guess you don't listen to our show enough because

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Speaker 1: Friend of the Show and Around the Horn producer Josh

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Speaker 3: The team that I am most I would take interested

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Speaker 3: in that I don't here talked about at the time

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Speaker 3: the Texas Longhorns. I really liked Madison book On the

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Speaker 1: If this were Around the Horn, you'd get a couple points, Josh,

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Speaker 1: But this is our show, so we'll just give you

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Speaker 1: a little salute. Elsewhere in the rankings, Notre Dame, previously

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Speaker 1: to NC State on Sunday one oh four to ninety

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Speaker 1: five in double overtime that marked the end of the

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Speaker 1: Irish's nineteen game winning streak. NC State moved up four

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Speaker 1: spots to number nine after that upset. UCLA, which held

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Speaker 1: one spot to number two after barely defeating unranked iOS

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Speaker 1: sixty seven sixty five. Another highlight from the weekend included

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Speaker 1: number seven LSU defeating Kentucky sixty five fifty eight despite

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Speaker 1: the Wildcats Georgia Amore slicing through the d and making

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Speaker 1: a sweet pass to Clara Strack for a bucket that

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Speaker 1: had Kim Moulke making a face we will never forget. Lord,

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Speaker 1: Please never let me be on the receiving end of

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Speaker 2: To soccer and the She Believes Cup.

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Speaker 1: Sunday saw the US women's national team top Australia two

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Speaker 1: to one in Glendale, Arizona, behind a goal from Lynn

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Speaker 1: Biandolo formerly Lynn Williams in the very first minute of

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Speaker 2: Now EMA has made a bit of program history in

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Speaker 1: She sent out a brand new eleven for the match,

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Speaker 1: It was just the sixth time in seven hundred and

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Speaker 1: two thousand that the US women's national team starting lineup

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Speaker 1: will face Japan for the She Believes Cup trophy on Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: That'll be at snap Dragon Stadium in San Diego. We'll

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Speaker 1: show with Silves in Sky to Tennis. We mentioned last

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Speaker 1: week that Venus Williams was expected to play in her

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Speaker 1: first WTA tournament in a year, the BNP Paribus Open

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Speaker 1: During a speaking engagement in Denmark over the weekend, Williams

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Speaker 1: Take a listen to what she said via audio captured

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually I found the announcement super amusing because I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, people seem to be happy.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, maybe I just want to go

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure not going, I'm going. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: I just got to play her texting today too. Can

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Speaker 1: We sounded happy Venus because we were because we wanted

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Speaker 1: to see you play again. Hilarious about someone texting her, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: The PWHL where we've got a battle between the top

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Speaker 1: two teams tonight, the top ranked Montreal Victoire hosting the

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Speaker 1: Toronto Scepters for what should be a good battle. When

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Speaker 1: these two teams met last month, it went to a shootout,

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Speaker 1: the top of the standings, a huge turnaround after a

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Speaker 1: seven thirty Eastern. We'll link to tune in info in

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Speaker 1: the show. Notes to Track and Field. US Indoor Nationals

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Speaker 1: were this past weekend, and friend of the show Nicki

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Speaker 1: Hilts ran away with both the fifteen hundred meters and

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Speaker 1: a record that includes both indoor and outdoor nationals. With

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Speaker 1: in Nanjing, China, but the twenty twenty four Olympians said

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Speaker 1: Hilts dedicated their wins to the trans community, writing on

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Speaker 1: Instagram quote, as a national champion of a country so

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Speaker 1: hyper fixated on hurting trans people at the moment, I

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Speaker 1: me strength on the start line. May this weekend be

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Speaker 1: proof that we exist. We aren't going anywhere, and nobody

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Speaker 1: can ban trans joy end quote. Way to go, Niki.

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Speaker 1: We're taking so much joy from your winds too, especially

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Speaker 2: Muggin for the cameras. We love that, all right. We

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Speaker 2: got to take a quick break when we come back.

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Speaker 1: We caught it with Sky and Silves from Shade butter

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Speaker 1: FC yesterday. Dot Combo is next to stick around slices.

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Speaker 1: It's time for another group chat where we take the

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Speaker 1: Joining us from Shaye butter FC. She's an engineer from

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Speaker 1: voices of marginalized folks, especially black women, and wants to

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Speaker 1: hard for her to flourish in soccer when she was younger.

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Speaker 2: It's sky what's up, Sky Up?

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Speaker 5: You've got the whole buyout?

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Joining her, She's a higher education professional who lives in

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Speaker 2: She was raised in Central Virginia.

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Speaker 1: She's a child of the ninety nine ers, and her

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Speaker 1: goal is to give a voice to those that often

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Speaker 1: the States with the culture it has often excluded.

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Speaker 2: It's Silves, what's up selves?

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Speaker 4: That's so nice? Thank you? What's up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: We got the Shade butter FC crew here.

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Speaker 1: And I want to start by asking, like, how did

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Speaker 2: What was the impetus for it? Well?

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Speaker 6: I think me and Silves met virtually online in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 6: is that right?

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Speaker 2: Soils?

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Speaker 6: Pandemic in Pandemic, and I know for me at the time,

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Speaker 6: attention to soccer. I used to watch it ridiculously and

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Speaker 6: what that looked like. And then Lo and Behol we

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Speaker 6: Grego from Florida Culture United, he saw us interacting and

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Speaker 5: Was like, do y'all know each other?

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Speaker 6: Y'all just started podcast And so that's how it got started.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to a meddling man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I's yeah, and so suggested you know, we had

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Speaker 1: Okay, so selves, how long did you guys do the

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Speaker 1: podcast before you met in person?

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Speaker 4: The first time was the first time we met the

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Speaker 4: Seattle Courtly game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah in person?

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Speaker 4: we started in April. So that was like August.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's not bad people who literally are at it

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years before they they end up

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Speaker 1: in the same place selves, What did you think was

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Speaker 1: missing in the space, Like, obviously during the whole twenty

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Speaker 1: feel like content was needed from their mouths, but I

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Speaker 4: I think us right, just the the culture, the culture

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Speaker 1: as we're approaching this season before we dig in, we

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Speaker 1: Uh what n w s L teams are we are

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Speaker 6: I will be an influencer Angel City. I mean too

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Speaker 4: Secretly love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Also do a lot of like international conversation, which on

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Speaker 1: Any players in those teams that are like your standouts,

441
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 1: or just any player internationally that you're like, Okay, I'll

442
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,479
Speaker 1: make some time to go watch that, even if it's

443
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,080
Speaker 1: just highlights.

444
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 6: Jackie Olvy of Tigris, I mean, come to Angel City,

445
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,040
Speaker 6: come to Los Angeles.

446
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 1: Well, it's tough to recruit when you're an alleged free agent.

447
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 1: But if you want to keep switching back and forth,

448
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: we'll allow it. Uh Soaps, what about you internationally.

449
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm just laughing because you're experiencing this guy. We all

450
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 4: experience right now. Internationally, I'm a I'm a I'm a

451
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 4: blue cotels the up, the cheels and goodness. I mean,

452
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 4: so many international players that I love. I don't know.

453
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 4: I always have a soft spot for Lauren James, so

454
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 4: I think, okay for me, she's up there. I'm a

455
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,719
Speaker 4: big fan of Katoto at least for now.

456
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 2: PSG.

457
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I could talk about international players all day.

458
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,320
Speaker 4: But I'm a very happy Chelsea fan because we got

459
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 4: Naomi Germa, so.

460
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: I know, right, and I hate even thinking about Naomi

461
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: playing over there where I can't watch Sky. You do

462
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 1: Shaey Butter superlatives on your show. We're gonna do a

463
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,880
Speaker 1: slightly different version here with the superlatives of the NWSL

464
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: off season. So I'm springing these on you so you

465
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: could take a second to think about it. But I

466
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: want to know, off the top of your dome, best

467
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: player move, like the move that you think served the player,

468
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 1: best and best team move in terms of acquisition or

469
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Speaker 1: trade or coaching higher.

470
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Speaker 6: What will be me Slti's talked about this before. Will

471
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 6: be a sneaky good acquisition is Yasmine Ryan in Houston.

472
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Speaker 6: I think people forget in the she's won two championships,

473
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 6: all right, Uh, she was a really important player, whether

474
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Speaker 6: it be a Gotham or the be at Portland. So

475
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 6: her now and that team in Houston, I mean they

476
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 6: went from being what is happening to Houston.

477
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Speaker 2: They're making moves.

478
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: Yes, it's nice to see.

479
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 6: I think Yasmy Ryan will be pretty dope. And I

480
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 6: mean even as you've seen in the national team yesterday,

481
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 6: in the game before, like how she plays, I think

482
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 6: she's been madly underrated, so to see her rocket Sean

483
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 6: will be pretty dope.

484
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: So you've got a player move or team move that

485
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Speaker 2: you particularly like.

486
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 4: It's been a super interesting off season. I think the

487
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 4: league's gone really international, so there's a lot of players

488
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 4: that you're like, huh, that could work right, you know,

489
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 4: see what they're trying to do. Having said that, I

490
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 4: think the really big move I'm really interested to see

491
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 4: what Jayden Shall looks like in North Carolina. I think

492
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 4: her and Ashley Sanchez hooking up is going to be

493
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 4: super interesting. I like to call it saucy. I think

494
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 4: there's gonna be a lot of sauce there, and you know,

495
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 4: maybe have talked to them recently and so just seeing

496
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Speaker 4: what they're you know, cooking up or what they're excited

497
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 4: to cook up with one another. But yeah, I think

498
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: that that was a really big move. You still have

499
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: a really young player developing and you know, trying to

500
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 4: push herself in a in a system where they possess

501
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 4: quite a bit, and so really trying to see how

502
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 4: they'll use her. Yeah, I'm really excited about that one.

503
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Speaker 1: I would say an obvious move that's gonna get my praise.

504
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: My praise is going to be, of course, Kansas City

505
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: reopping Tim Wachawenga. Just making tem Will feel good and

506
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: making tem will want to stay there and resign, that's

507
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: an obvious one. You all were at NWSL media days,

508
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: Silves you just mentioned maybe getting a chance to talk

509
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: to some players tease some of that content. Y'all put

510
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: out some videos and coverage, Like what are some of

511
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: the things that you learned or talked to players about

512
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 1: from those those.

513
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Speaker 2: Couple of days in LA.

514
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really cool. It was in WSL's first

515
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: media day, so it's two days in Los Angeles. They

516
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 4: kept it in Los Angeles, which is really nice. This

517
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: is not so long after the fires had done most

518
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: of their damage, so it was nice to have that

519
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 4: support and stuff have them come in. We did everything.

520
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 4: We did everything from you know, Commissioner Berman gave us

521
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 4: about an hour, which is very rare for her, so

522
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 4: we were able to ask some questions, not all obviously,

523
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 4: but yeah, we got to interview some of the players

524
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 4: we talked about, like Ashley Sanchez, like Jade and Shaw.

525
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 4: We got the exclusive on the Thompson's extending, so they

526
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 4: kind of had to sit on that, but that was

527
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: really cool. It's always nice to interview them. Got some

528
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 4: answers about some some new looks maybe from Cherni Raman

529
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: and Jade and Shaw and let's see. Alie Watt's always

530
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: a really fun interview. I think she has a very good,

531
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 4: good and healthy perspective on sort of where she is,

532
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: where she wants to improve. She always fun, she wants

533
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 4: to make you laugh. The surprise person for me was

534
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 4: Alyssa Malanson. She's just very good, very good rapport with

535
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 4: the media, and she gave us some information about the

536
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 4: other sport that she played or that she participated in

537
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 4: when she was little and maybe with someone famous. So well,

538
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 4: wait and drop that.

539
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: That's a hell of a tease. Look at you not

540
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: giving us the good stuff. You said you have to

541
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: come over to shape outter APC to get that sky.

542
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 1: Are there any players you're most excited to see this

543
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: NWSL season, Whether that's because they're sort of up and

544
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: coming and you think this is gonna be another big.

545
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: Year of growth, or maybe just one of your fabs.

546
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 5: Hmm, let's see.

547
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: Let's see.

548
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 6: I mean, as a not Angel City fan, I would

549
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 6: like to see what's going to happen, just because I

550
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 6: thought they've had a roster, they just needed better coaching.

551
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 6: So what does it look like when you have a

552
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 6: system where they can just cook right? And even in

553
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 6: the little preseason game, I could see a little bit

554
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 6: what they're doing and I'm like, okay, so what does

555
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 6: the starting lineup look like? And how's that going to

556
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 6: cook people to death? Or you know, in the case

557
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 6: of what does it look like for Orlando now did

558
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 6: nobody surprise? What does it look like for Washington DC?

559
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 6: The spirit in Kansas City? What does it look like

560
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 6: when everybody is not surprised. I think a wild card

561
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 6: is Utah because they now are at and like you know,

562
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 6: Ali sendinor and Uh Danaka are on the same team.

563
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 6: They are falling in this tournament. Yep, we gotta deal

564
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 6: with that as a as a league. So I mean

565
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 6: those those teams, I guess, yeah.

566
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Speaker 1: For sure, yeah, Utah, Like I'm not I'm sorry to you, Utah,

567
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: but I forget you exist all the time, and I

568
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: hope that this year that changes. That's like a dick

569
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: thing to say, but like I'm always like, oh yeah, Utah,

570
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: Like I just we'll see if this is the difference

571
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,919
Speaker 1: you mentioned. They've got some some some players that can

572
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: really bring it. I mean bangers wise too. Ali sentiner

573
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: like there was some statistic that five of her six

574
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 1: international goals have all been uh have all been bangers.

575
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: Like she just she can she can shoot from anywhere.

576
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 4: No, she can't shoot from inside the box.

577
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so she can she can only shoot from outside. Yeah,

578
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: there we go, speaking of silves.

579
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Speaker 1: At the time we're recording, this US women's national team

580
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Speaker 1: sits second out of the four team in the she

581
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: believes Cup. Japan's in the top spot because a goal

582
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: differential the US is one. I think six out of

583
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: ten of these She Believes Cups. But Japan is looking

584
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: real good. This is the big head to head happening

585
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Who do you think might come up big?

586
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: And who do you think is gonna win that match?

587
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: Japan doesn't have to win that match like we have

588
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: to win that match, So I'm very interested to see

589
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 4: how this young core performs in a must win situation.

590
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie to you. I think Japan's gonna

591
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: take it.

592
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,239
Speaker 2: Yes, I wouldn't be surprised a part, because it does

593
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: feel like this is.

594
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: Not to dog the She Believes Cup, But it's not

595
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: the most important thing for the US woman's national team

596
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: right now.

597
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: It's finding out what these young stars can do. It's

598
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 2: understanding that the Triple Espresso is out. It's getting used

599
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 2: to a new keeper.

600
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,959
Speaker 1: After the Elissainae or Rain that felt safe and secure

601
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: and warm and snugly, and now we have to get

602
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: used to her not being back there. Yeah, I mean

603
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: it feels like, of course they always want to win,

604
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: and when they're out there, they're going to go for

605
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: a win. But Emma Hayes is looking to see a

606
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: lot like who plays well together and what it looks

607
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: like with these young folks. Sky y'all mentioned on your

608
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: show that she seems to be very intentional about keeping

609
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: the pressure off of Lily Johannes. She's sort of pushing

610
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: people off of the high praise that even after that

611
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: first match against Columbia looked like she was deserving of.

612
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: Do you think that's just Emma reading something about Lily

613
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: and what she needs at this stage.

614
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 6: I'm not sure she needs to start on if we're winning,

615
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 6: she needs to start on Wednesday. So uh yeah, I

616
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 6: guess she's trying to, like, you know, timper expectation is

617
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 6: trying to take her along. But man, she look like

618
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 6: she'd been out there for years the best midfielder, and

619
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 6: like in this case, particularly playing Japan, I was just thinking, like,

620
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 6: how I see the game is I can lay your things.

621
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess fight rec memory, but I can

622
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 6: see things. I'm discerned about our back line in midfield

623
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 6: against Japan. I mean, even Colombia experience it really quickly

624
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 6: right where it was like boom boom boom, where it's like,

625
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 6: oh no, we're now multiple goals. Uh that could happen

626
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: to us, particularly if you know Japan, they start slipping

627
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 6: into different channels.

628
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 5: Andami Grommer's not back there.

629
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 6: Uh And like you know, Lily would help a long

630
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 6: way because I'm the I think they struggled on the

631
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 6: yesterday with like the midfield, it was all over the place.

632
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: I would bring her in.

633
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 6: I mean, you want to see if people could ball? Yeah,

634
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 6: I mean sometimes you have a young fema, a feenom

635
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 6: who you let go and prosper. And in this case,

636
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 6: I understand trying to protect her, but she's ready. She's

637
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 6: been She's been in professional for a couple of years

638
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 6: in professional. Yeah, and she's also been in Champions League.

639
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 6: So and she and I mean she was throwing grown woman,

640
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 6: so her cook. But I get trying to protect her

641
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 6: in the process, but that's probably part of it.

642
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: Did you just quietly try to drop real quick? I

643
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: guess I have a photographic memory? Uh?

644
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean I do.

645
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: I've had where else where else are we using that?

646
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 2: Give me?

647
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 6: I mean an engineer, I'm an engineer, so like that's

648
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 6: how I got through school. I mean, but how I

649
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 6: see the game because people will go you know, what

650
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 6: do you think games will look like and I'm like,

651
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 6: and I can recall different games from the past and

652
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 6: layer them and then I know, I remember when I

653
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 6: guess it was Leon playing uh Barcelona that year, so

654
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 6: if you remember that one in the Champions League and I.

655
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: Was like, like, no, I sure don't.

656
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: I had to say that game last year. I don't

657
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: want to.

658
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Speaker 5: No, no, not that one but the year before.

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Speaker 6: But basically, yeah, I had said, I think Leon wins

660
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Speaker 6: because of they had the game plan for when in

661
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Speaker 6: the i c C. Portland played uh not not Bad

662
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Speaker 6: Houston played Barcelona and they n W selled them. And

663
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Speaker 6: I was like, if they use that game plan, they're

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Speaker 6: probably gonna mess around and win.

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Speaker 5: It's sure enough. They won that game. And and the

666
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Speaker 5: reason I had.

667
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Speaker 6: Said is because I saw the struggles they had against

668
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Speaker 6: Houston at the time, where they were like Jeklin Hode.

669
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Speaker 6: They'd possessed and then they'd be like, we just go

670
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Speaker 6: go play direct, switch it up. But it caused Barcelona

671
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Speaker 6: problems and that's basically what they did that year they one.

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Speaker 6: So I mean it comes in ways like that, but

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Speaker 6: it's helpful in terms of recall of variety of things,

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Speaker 6: particularly when we talk a build a community, you know,

675
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Speaker 6: being aware of you know, things that have happened to

676
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Speaker 6: me in the past, but then other people.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, but other than that, I use that as

678
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Speaker 5: an engineer.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's put that to the test.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna see this rematch of Orlando Pride and Washington

681
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: Spirit in the NWSL Challenge Cup coming up on March seventh,

682
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Speaker 1: that's ahead of the start of the regular season rematch

683
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Speaker 1: of the championship game.

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Speaker 2: What do you expect from the rematch based on.

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Speaker 1: What you saw in the title game, either one of us, well,

686
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Skuy's got that layering mechanism's good on

687
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Speaker 1: top of the images in her brain from the last matchup,

688
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: and then swap out the trades, and.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's preseason, so I gotta be mindful like

690
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Speaker 6: you still is. I don't know if Kroy is now

691
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Speaker 6: clear to play, because I think if.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, expected back, although I don't know if we've gotten

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Speaker 1: the you know, for sure opening day March seventh.

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Speaker 6: And then I mean even DC got added players, and

695
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Speaker 6: then well then oh wait, but then on the flip side,

696
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Speaker 6: Orlando added players, so I don't know, it could be

697
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Speaker 6: all all out brawl playing It could be like a total.

698
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Speaker 6: It could be very much preseason y, like give me

699
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Speaker 6: ten to eight score line me no defense. It could

700
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Speaker 6: be very much like that, just sauce sauce sauce, or

701
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Speaker 6: could be a defensive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, usually with Orlando with that, with that defense, they're

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Speaker 1: going to keep it pretty tight. But yeah, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Kroy bathunemselves, because gosh, we just love watching her.

705
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: The style is insane and she's a fun interview really

706
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Speaker 2: really just likable person.

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Speaker 1: She got to sit and watch her team through the playoffs,

708
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Speaker 1: and sometimes that can help you get to watch and

709
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Speaker 1: really come back into it with a different perspective. Do

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Speaker 1: you think that she comes back even stronger somehow, even

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Speaker 1: though she missed that time, because she's now both approaching.

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Speaker 2: The game from within and being able to have that

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Speaker 2: outside perspective.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I think so. Again, we've talked about this

715
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Speaker 4: and maybe you know, we bring this back to one

716
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Speaker 4: of the reasons we start this show is because I

717
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Speaker 4: liken the idea of the black midfielder to the black quarterback, right,

718
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Speaker 4: this idea that these positions of intelligence cannot be played

719
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Speaker 4: by us, And I think Kroy very much shatters that.

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Speaker 4: She's not the only one, obviously, but I just think

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Speaker 4: she's so incredibly intelligent. She has the ability to anticipate.

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Speaker 4: I've gotten to speak with her former college coach a

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Speaker 4: couple of times, and you know, he mentioned she was

724
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Speaker 4: a point guard, right, and so her ability. There's one

725
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Speaker 4: goal she scored maybe against San Diego I can't remember

726
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Speaker 4: last year, when the ball at the FLEC's back. She's

727
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Speaker 4: so able to read the path of the ball, get

728
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Speaker 4: on in it either she assistter scores that goal. And

729
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Speaker 4: I think being able to sit on the sidelines and

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Speaker 4: watch that honestly, as your midfield kind of gets depleted,

731
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Speaker 4: like they had a lot of injuries toward the end

732
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Speaker 4: of the year, at adding Narumi to that midfield to

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Speaker 4: really be able to hold that space right Obviously, is

734
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Speaker 4: Andy Sullivan is both injured in now pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Congragn to her.

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Speaker 4: Andy's a really good seat to Congrats to her. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think she'll come back stronger. I don't think it's

738
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Speaker 4: an injury that will take a ton of time for

739
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Speaker 4: her to get sort of reacclimated. When she's able to

740
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Speaker 4: go back into the lineup, and now she has these

741
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Speaker 4: weapons right that she didn't really get to play with

742
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Speaker 4: ESSI sentos. I guess they'll officially announced Bernal at some point,

743
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: but she'll have Bernald at the back, who's also kind

744
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Speaker 4: of a playmaker. That's in her back positioner she can

745
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: push up. Obviously, you still have you know, Trinity Huntman,

746
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Speaker 4: one of the best players in the world up top,

747
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 4: and they'll get starbacks. You have a lot of goal scorers,

748
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Speaker 4: she has a lot of opportunities to distribute the ball.

749
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Speaker 4: And the truth is it didn't look all that hard

750
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Speaker 4: for her in her rookie year, right, she pretty much

751
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 4: swept the awards she could sweep. And so now you're

752
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: giving her time to rest, to observe from the sideline,

753
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: to have those conversations with her coaching staff and other players,

754
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 4: to develop those relationships and training when she's back. So yeah,

755
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Speaker 4: I think she's actually more scary, and I think she

756
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: wants to actually break that record and not just be

757
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: tied with Tovein. So I think she's coming back hungry. Yeah,

758
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Speaker 4: I don't, and I don't think Toven would mind that. Actually,

759
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Speaker 4: I think that's quite a big chord with the advance.

760
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, we heard you guys drop some merch, So

761
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Speaker 1: tell us what the folks can get out there and

762
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Speaker 1: how they can get some sky.

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Speaker 6: Well, so we are dropping a marchlan. It's celebrating SBCUS

764
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Speaker 6: and so we have a march lin like that's reflected

765
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 6: around black It's not just Black history, most his Black

766
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Speaker 6: History Year, because Black history is important all the time.

767
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Speaker 6: And basically we have different sharts that have the colors

768
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Speaker 6: of various ICBCUS and ICBCU organizations. Wink weink that we

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Speaker 6: are showing love of proceeds of the this line will

770
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Speaker 6: actually support the United Negro College Fund. And so I

771
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Speaker 6: mean for us, you know, SBC culture was a part

772
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Speaker 6: of both of us growing up.

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Speaker 5: I grew up in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: My mom uh worked and went to school in the

775
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Speaker 6: Atlanta Atlanta University Center, Clark, Atlanta. But I mean, hey,

776
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Speaker 6: I he was at Stone College nursery school growing up.

777
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Speaker 6: But I grew up in the Atlanta HBCUs, so you know,

778
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Speaker 6: spelling Morehouse I was. My my mom went to more

779
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 6: House School of Medicine. I mean, you know that's been

780
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Speaker 6: part of life and culture. And then growing up in

781
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 6: Atlanta predominantly black everything. I mean, it's so like those

782
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 6: schools and the culture and everything about them are so important,

783
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 6: and so sharing that information and helping to connect people,

784
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 6: uh to how important those things are. And then beyond that,

785
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 6: we also have different I guess in the theme of

786
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Speaker 6: Black History Month type of march for our different brands,

787
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Speaker 6: So for s Ash Butter Walk in ninety and in

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Speaker 6: Florida Culture United.

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Speaker 4: So for people who don't know, HBCUs is short for

790
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: Historically Black Colleges and Universities. So these are schools that

791
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: were founded during essentially reconstruction before the Meryl Act. That

792
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: could very much nerd out about land grant institutions, but

793
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 4: they were founded because at the time we lived under

794
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: separate but equal laws, and these were institutions of higher

795
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: education founded specifically for black people, usually by some sort

796
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: of Protestant religion if they weren't state run. So really

797
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 4: supporting that. And many of those schools have men's and

798
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 4: or women's soccer programs as well, so really just making

799
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: sure we're bringing attention to those programs. This guy said,

800
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: we're both from those worlds. I grew up across the

801
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: street from Virginia State University. My father was an assistant

802
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: band director there for most of my life. You know,

803
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 4: it's only retired in the past few years. So I

804
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 4: grew up going on bus trips on weekends, you know

805
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 4: with my father.

806
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Speaker 2: That's what did you play?

807
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: I was trumpet, uh French and French Heart, and then

808
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 4: my senior year I was actually a drum major and

809
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 4: it was all women. We were all three women, So yeah,

810
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 4: it was really cool. So yeah, I grew up Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Scot got you in the supporter section on the drums

812
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 2: during games.

813
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Speaker 4: I am such a bad, bad fan. I don't really

814
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 4: do sgez so, but yeah, I could probably hop on

815
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: and I've drummed. Yeah, I've drumped a few times at

816
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 4: a tailgate and I can keep a rhythm, So yeah,

817
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 4: I enjoy that. But really just that's part of the culture.

818
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 4: We're trying to bring in sort of that camaraderie, you know,

819
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 4: the music, the social aspect. That's the kind of thing

820
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 4: that we are, you know, trying to bring to the sport.

821
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: That's the kind of thing we grew up with and

822
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: there's no reason it can't be in this sport. But yeah,

823
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: this line is to help, you know, bring awareness to that.

824
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: And like Sky said, we'll be giving it to UNCF,

825
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 4: which is the United Negro College fund, which has been

826
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 4: around for a very very very long time. I grew

827
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 4: up with Lou Rawls telling me mind is a terrible

828
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Speaker 4: thing to waste.

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Speaker 2: I remember.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See awesome.

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00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: Well, folks can go find that merch and of course

833
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: can listen to Shaye Better FC, follow you on social

834
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: and follow along with the chatter about the games and

835
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: everything around the culture of soccer.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for taking the time of chat.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for having us on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks again to Sky and Silves for joining us.

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Speaker 1: We got to take another break see on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back, slices. We love that you're listening, but we

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Speaker 1: Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports production

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Speaker 1: in partnership with d Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Production by Wonder Media Network. Our

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Speaker 1: producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones. Our executive producers

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Speaker 1: are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and Emily Rudder.

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Speaker 1: Our editors are Emily Rutterer, Britney Martinez, and Grace Lynch.

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Speaker 1: Our associate producer is Lucy Jones and I'm Your Host

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Speaker 1: Sarah Spain