Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Joe Levy. So before the pandemic, the
Speaker 1: guest on this week's home edition of the show, Shade,
Speaker 1: hadn't actually been home for more than two weeks in
Speaker 1: the last two years, because two years that's how long
Speaker 1: ago the indie pop trios hit Trampoline came out, and
Speaker 1: they've spent an awful lot of their time since then
Speaker 1: in a van on the road. Now, they did put
Speaker 1: together an album's worth of new songs during that time,
Speaker 1: but once the world slowed down during Lockdown, they didn't
Speaker 1: think that music sounded much like them, so they hit reset.
Speaker 1: You know, the home edition of Inside the Studio is
Speaker 1: all about letting you know how the pandemic has impacted
Speaker 1: the lives of artists, how it's affecting the way they
Speaker 1: make music. And Shade talked with our Quarantine correspondent, Jordan
Speaker 1: Runtalg about the challenges and rewards of staying creative during
Speaker 1: this difficult time. You know. They also explained how you
Speaker 1: get a thirteen piece string section on your new music
Speaker 1: during lockdown and I don't want to give anything away
Speaker 1: but masks and a very long Distance Zoom Call are
Speaker 1: involved as always. If you enjoy this episode, be sure
Speaker 1: to check out the I Heart Radio podcast that Jordan's hosts.
Speaker 1: It's called Rivals Music's Greatest Feuds, and it's available wherever
Speaker 1: you get your shows. Hello everyone, my name is Jordan
Speaker 1: runt Odd, but enough about me. My guests today are
Speaker 1: three friends from the d C Metro area. They've been
Speaker 1: making music together since they were in high school, but
Speaker 1: they got the world's attention with the single Trampoline, blending
Speaker 1: indie pop, would dreamy electro beats and elegant vocals. The
Speaker 1: track has gone double platinum and earned a feature from
Speaker 1: Zane Malick. Now, as they prepared to drop their first LP,
Speaker 1: the band are back with a new single, No Other
Speaker 1: Way the Threesome found their name and a fantasy book series.
Speaker 1: It's a reference to a cloak made of shadow and light.
Speaker 1: I think that's the perfect way to characterize their moody,
Speaker 1: melodic talents. I'm so happy to welcome Shade Chelsea, Max Spencer,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time today. It's
Speaker 1: so great to talk to you. Yes, of course, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for having us. Oh my god, so
Speaker 1: much to ask you about First of all, your your
Speaker 1: new single No Other Way. It's incredible, I mean, empowering
Speaker 1: lyrics and it's impossible not to dance to. And I'm
Speaker 1: a non dancer, so that's really that says a lot
Speaker 1: coming from me. Uh, can tell me a little more
Speaker 1: where this one came from? Yeah, so we um. He
Speaker 1: wrote this song a couple of months ago. All Chelsea
Speaker 1: and I were quarantining with her parents at the time,
Speaker 1: and Max was coming over all the time as well,
Speaker 1: and we were feeling, you know, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of emotions, UM, very anxious, UM, just stressed out with
Speaker 1: everything that was happening in the world, and we wanted
Speaker 1: to write a song to remind us to try to
Speaker 1: stay present, you know, and appreciate the life that we
Speaker 1: still have, and we also wanted something to dance to. UM.
Speaker 1: So we Yeah, we just wrote this tune and and
Speaker 1: we're super excited to share it with people. Now. Now,
Speaker 1: you were in the midst of working on your first
Speaker 1: LP when the pandemic began. Have you retooled much of
Speaker 1: it in the wake of everything that's come the last
Speaker 1: couple of months. No, Basically, we are at the beginning
Speaker 1: of last summer. We had a basically an entire album.
Speaker 1: You know, we we had Trampoline and that success kind
Speaker 1: of helped us get with some really big writers, which
Speaker 1: was just such a fun experience. But we had kind
Speaker 1: of a handful of songs. I mean, essentially an entire album,
Speaker 1: it's worth of songs, but it was just pretty mishmashed,
Speaker 1: a bunch of different people, um, a bunch of different
Speaker 1: you know, different subject matters, and it just didn't feel
Speaker 1: like us. So basically, we were in Portland, I think,
Speaker 1: oh no, we're in Seattle and we were just sitting
Speaker 1: around the kitchen table at I just said, these have
Speaker 1: got to go, We've got to start over, and so um,
Speaker 1: we just got back on the road. We're on the
Speaker 1: road for a bit. And then the pandemic happened and
Speaker 1: we were able to finally kind of hunker down and
Speaker 1: you know, get all our ships done. So that was
Speaker 1: and this album just feels so much truer to us
Speaker 1: and who we are and what we are and so
Speaker 1: no regrets there for sure. How is writing at home
Speaker 1: different from writing on the road? Is it like much
Speaker 1: more communal in do you have a preference I would
Speaker 1: say writing at home because when we're on the road.
Speaker 1: I'm asleep in the van the entire time, um, and
Speaker 1: we're just like exhausted. We're running around, we're doing a
Speaker 1: much of like radio press. We're you know, having the show,
Speaker 1: and then after the show, we're just exhausted, and then
Speaker 1: we're in the van the rest of the time, So
Speaker 1: so much time to write. I would love to be
Speaker 1: able to do that. That would be like a superpower.
Speaker 1: I think, Um, yeah, we aren't in the bus life
Speaker 1: world where we could have a studio and the bus
Speaker 1: when Spence on our driving the van and we'll try
Speaker 1: to make beats in the in the car, but it's
Speaker 1: it's not the same. And as Chelsea was saying, we
Speaker 1: just for for two years we were basically on the
Speaker 1: road promoting trampoline and playing festivals, and we had this
Speaker 1: album ready, and then once the pandemic hit, it was
Speaker 1: just we had like a moment of clarity and we
Speaker 1: were just like, you know, this isn't it didn't feel
Speaker 1: true to ourselves, and we just had all all of
Speaker 1: this free time to actually make an album. And it
Speaker 1: was definitely kind of rough for the first couple of
Speaker 1: weeks because we were just feeling the emotions. I think
Speaker 1: everyone else was feeling just all this you know, worry
Speaker 1: and just just getting used to spending all of your
Speaker 1: time indoors. But we just kind of embraced that and
Speaker 1: just hunker down and wrote the majority of this album
Speaker 1: in a couple of months, and it's just been kind
Speaker 1: of fleshing out these ten songs since then. So I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, you were on the road for years,
Speaker 1: living out of airbnb s on the festival circuit. It
Speaker 1: must be a huge adjustment being stationary for this long now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely an adjustment, um, but a good one. We needed
Speaker 1: a break, We needed like a time to kind of
Speaker 1: settle down. We we all moved into Spence and I
Speaker 1: moved into a house and Falls Church, Virginia. Max moved
Speaker 1: into d C. And I don't think that we would
Speaker 1: have ever been able to like take this next chapter
Speaker 1: step if it hadn't been for the pandemic. So it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a silver lining for that for sure. Now,
Speaker 1: what does the typical writing day look like to you?
Speaker 1: Is this something that you do every day, almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, just chipping at it a little way at
Speaker 1: a time, or do you wait until you're inspired to
Speaker 1: say Okay, I got this new song. I want to
Speaker 1: go get together and work on it. Well, the day
Speaker 1: starts with a amazing breakfast that Chelsea makes every morning.
Speaker 1: That yes, well it depends, but I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of times we got get some fresh eggs, maybe some
Speaker 1: some avocado, some berries, uh, and we'll have our morning coffee.
Speaker 1: So we gotta start with that. We're Chelsea and I
Speaker 1: were married, by the way, me and Chelsey and I
Speaker 1: are married. So we get up very early every morning
Speaker 1: and kind of try to start start with a healthy morning. Um,
Speaker 1: I think, uh, we try to write every day, but
Speaker 1: more recently we we have like a bunch of songs
Speaker 1: that were really excited about. So we've been focused on
Speaker 1: really honing in on the on some of these tunes
Speaker 1: and making sure like the drums sounds are perfect, the
Speaker 1: transitions are great between the chorus and the verse, you know,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. But even so, we we
Speaker 1: think it's important to continue to try to write aside
Speaker 1: from Chelsea's amazing, unmistakable voice. Is there an instrument that
Speaker 1: you feel is the most crucial to your sound, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, an instrument that you always sort of start
Speaker 1: with and go from, is like your secret ingredient. Chelsea's
Speaker 1: voice is definitely the most that's we we write all
Speaker 1: of our music around her vocals. But for this new album,
Speaker 1: one thing that we're very excited about incorporating has been
Speaker 1: UM live strings. So we have like a thirteen piece
Speaker 1: string section all over this album. That's so we've already
Speaker 1: booked of a session for no other way. The strings
Speaker 1: are on that song and for the next single coming
Speaker 1: out UM Once Upon a Time. But uh, it's been
Speaker 1: interesting because we were working with this string arranger who
Speaker 1: did the all of the arrangements on the last Angel
Speaker 1: Olsen album, All Mirrors. I don't know if you've yeah,
Speaker 1: So he did a bunch of arranging on that, and
Speaker 1: we just were fans of his work, so we reached
Speaker 1: out to him and he came back at us with
Speaker 1: all these great parts, and after we'd flushed them out,
Speaker 1: it was time to kind of figure out how we
Speaker 1: were going to actually record, you know, thirteen players in
Speaker 1: the middle of a pandemic. And he had worked with
Speaker 1: this Northern Macedonian string section before, so yeah, which was incredible.
Speaker 1: So we they were all wearing masks and being safe,
Speaker 1: but they we basically had a zoom call into this
Speaker 1: beautiful studio in northern Macedonia with thirteen players and engineer
Speaker 1: and like a you know, conductor for three hours and
Speaker 1: we're able to knock out two songs. So that's just
Speaker 1: been a huge part of this new album that's been
Speaker 1: shaping up to be a big voice all over it.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm so excited about that, excited to hear it.
Speaker 1: I'm so fascinated by the relationship between composer and arranger.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think of someone like Paul McCartney sitting
Speaker 1: down with George Martin to work on the string arrangements
Speaker 1: for for Yesterday and almost going line by line. Does
Speaker 1: the arranger do they give you multiple options of Okay,
Speaker 1: we can take you know, this voicing here and go
Speaker 1: up to this sort of bluesy note, or we can
Speaker 1: play it more like a Bok corral or something like that.
Speaker 1: How what was your relationship like working with the arranger? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this was our first time ever working with um
Speaker 1: a composer, So Jarek Bischoff shout out to him. He's
Speaker 1: been just incredible. Um So the way a lot of
Speaker 1: these songs already had like, uh, synthesizer strings, or not.
Speaker 1: So you know, I guess you call it strings like
Speaker 1: would you say, we're like sampoldst ings that sound like
Speaker 1: those strings? But there so when we yeah, so they
Speaker 1: sound good, but we so we had some sample strings
Speaker 1: string parts for a lot of the songs and we
Speaker 1: sent over those two Jerik and he first of all
Speaker 1: would tab those out so that we could have an
Speaker 1: orchestra actually play those parts. But then he also created
Speaker 1: all these beautiful melodies and you know, different um string
Speaker 1: hooks and stuff like that that he that he thought
Speaker 1: would be good. And then he sent him back to
Speaker 1: us and we were able to comb through everything and
Speaker 1: then sort of structure it as well. So it was
Speaker 1: a really great back and forth um with him. And Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then at that point we would go to the actual
Speaker 1: orchestra and he had part by part structured for them,
Speaker 1: so they would just they just knocked it out of it.
Speaker 1: It was pretty amazing to see because he they would
Speaker 1: just piece by piece. In three hours, we had all
Speaker 1: the different parts that we wanted to Pj's and Chelsea
Speaker 1: would like pop in and be like, what's going on
Speaker 1: to really we're on you know, we're on the course too,
Speaker 1: And it was it was wild. But that must be emotional.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean just seeing on the orchestra playing
Speaker 1: something you wrote. I mean, I can't even imagine what
Speaker 1: that feels like. As a composer, that's gonna feel amazing.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. We were like in your crying, We're like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is like sounding incredible. I was also hungover, so
Speaker 1: it was really particularly emotional for me. But UM, I
Speaker 1: don't know, no, but it's it's been. It's shout out
Speaker 1: to Jerich. He's so talented and he's quick up. I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, I know everyone asked you about
Speaker 1: your band name. I wanted to ask you how it
Speaker 1: relates to your sound. As I said in the intro,
Speaker 1: shade as a cloak made of shadow and light. What
Speaker 1: drew you to that word? What is it that you know?
Speaker 1: How do you feel it relates to to you and
Speaker 1: your music? UM? I think that for us, we kind
Speaker 1: of do when we read, Um, we kind of do
Speaker 1: a book club situation where Spencer will read a book
Speaker 1: and then he'll pass it on, and then he'll pass
Speaker 1: it on. So this one particular book, Uh, Spencer did
Speaker 1: a bunch of research and he read the book and
Speaker 1: he said you have to read it, said it. Erry
Speaker 1: gave it to me. I read it, and the Max
Speaker 1: read it, and then we were looking for names, and shade,
Speaker 1: just alone in the book, regardless of definition or anything
Speaker 1: like that, just looked like such a cool word to us.
Speaker 1: And you know, then knowing that it's a protective cloak
Speaker 1: and you know it's it's woven by Goddess and everyone
Speaker 1: kind of perceives it differently, it just seemed like a
Speaker 1: really cool and we love this book so much, so
Speaker 1: it's like, um, it just was just seemed to fit.
Speaker 1: You know. What are you reading now in the book club? Oh?
Speaker 1: My gosh, right now, I'm reading a book, um that
Speaker 1: was recommended to me. It's called Breasts and Eggs. So, um,
Speaker 1: I'm only on my page two because I just started
Speaker 1: reading it. But that is my that is when I
Speaker 1: am reading at the Moon. Spencer is reading Charlie and
Speaker 1: the Chocolate Factory right now, the original. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: just beinge the the like the Girl with the Dragon
Speaker 1: Tattoo series as well. I just it was really good. Max.
Speaker 1: What are you reading? I'm reading h Have you heard
Speaker 1: of When Things Fall Apart? By m Very appropriate for
Speaker 1: the times right now, so I'm just trying to piece
Speaker 1: my life together and read this when things fell apart book.
Speaker 1: So it's been good there. That's the Shade book club
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, very diverse reading. Well. I read
Speaker 1: that you wrote Trampoline the lyrics at least in about
Speaker 1: a day, very very fast. Do you find that the
Speaker 1: best songs come quickly they just kind of burst out
Speaker 1: of you? M I would say no, because I mean Trampoline,
Speaker 1: we did have the lyrics very quickly, but that's all
Speaker 1: just was like it took of you know, it took
Speaker 1: us forever to evolve it just because we were always
Speaker 1: how many different parts we you know, like it was
Speaker 1: I just like always, so it took us forever to
Speaker 1: actually get it out. Probably like there was I think
Speaker 1: the song itself was written quickly, but then in terms
Speaker 1: of like the production and extra vocal melodies and stuff
Speaker 1: to layer on top of it. Um. He worked with
Speaker 1: this great producer Alex Mendoza too, who brought a fresh
Speaker 1: perspective um, specifically with the choruses, like he kind of
Speaker 1: brought all the instrumentation down and really slowed that part
Speaker 1: of the song. So the production took a while to
Speaker 1: figure out. But the lyrics were written like definitely in
Speaker 1: a day, and the main parts of the song we're
Speaker 1: written in a day. So I think it does depend
Speaker 1: on whether or not you know some songs. Some songs
Speaker 1: come easily and that's great, but others do take a while,
Speaker 1: and I think you can always some of those songs
Speaker 1: for us are some of our favorites. So we went
Speaker 1: on so many rabbit holes are trampoline that by the
Speaker 1: time we finished it, I think all of us were
Speaker 1: just like turn it off. We were just we weren't
Speaker 1: even sure where we ended up, but we felt like
Speaker 1: it was done. We just were like, all right, this
Speaker 1: was there a moment that you knew that it was
Speaker 1: really taking off, as there like a lightning bolt moment
Speaker 1: for you. I would say the Apple commercial was definitely
Speaker 1: they like, oh this, here we go. I think that
Speaker 1: was like such a cool um like absolute dream. I mean,
Speaker 1: we grew up and you know, Feist has her Apple
Speaker 1: commercial and that was just like the coolest thing in
Speaker 1: the world and that was just so iconic and so
Speaker 1: just for us to have an Apple commercial was just insanity.
Speaker 1: So I think that's when we were like, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, So I live in d C. So I, um,
Speaker 1: I've had some pretty cool experiences with the song. But
Speaker 1: but like just a couple of weeks ago, I pulled
Speaker 1: up in front of my house and I heard Trampoline
Speaker 1: Plane outside of my car. I thought it was inside
Speaker 1: my car, and then I thought I maybe it came
Speaker 1: on the radio, and I realized it was coming from
Speaker 1: outside the car. So I hop out of the car
Speaker 1: and it's blaring down the block like stadium level. Like
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I like, I never heard it
Speaker 1: this loud in my life. And I was just like
Speaker 1: following the song, and I thought maybe one of my
Speaker 1: neighbors was messing with me. And I just was walking
Speaker 1: down the block and then I see this lady on
Speaker 1: the porch, just sitting on this enormous speaker on her
Speaker 1: front porch, just jamming to Trampoline Uh. And I just
Speaker 1: walked across the street and I was like, hey, Like
Speaker 1: she saw me standing there awkwardly, and she just pausing music.
Speaker 1: She's like, what's going on. I'm like, that's my song.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I'm Max, that's my song. You're
Speaker 1: listening to you? And she's like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: love this song. This is my jam too, Like, this
Speaker 1: is my favorite song. And I was like, no, like
Speaker 1: I made that beat with my brother and his wife.
Speaker 1: We're in a band together. And she just was like
Speaker 1: her mind was blown. It was just such a funny
Speaker 1: experience and she was just like, you're lying, you're not
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, that's that's me. So even
Speaker 1: now it's cool to have like experiences like that. Then
Speaker 1: we never thought a million years we'd have so yeah.
Speaker 1: And and also to add to that, I think, honestly,
Speaker 1: you always dream of hearing your song on the radio,
Speaker 1: but um, you never think it's gonna happen. So just
Speaker 1: being you know, we were in l A. And uh,
Speaker 1: we'd heard. First of all, we heard our song on
Speaker 1: our local alternative station DC one on one, and that
Speaker 1: in itself was just incredible because we grew up listening
Speaker 1: to that station and we know all those guys. But then,
Speaker 1: you know, we go to the West Coast and we're
Speaker 1: in l A. And the song comes on on the
Speaker 1: biggest pop station and it was like those kind of things.
Speaker 1: You're just pretty it's pretty incredible. You've been singing together
Speaker 1: practically since the womb, right, I mean, you were toddlers
Speaker 1: and you're making music together. Yeah, we were starting five
Speaker 1: years old. There you go, shout out to our mom
Speaker 1: who taught us how to write songs and how us
Speaker 1: write songs for say a clause. That was like our thing,
Speaker 1: songs for Santa. Like every time he got into fight,
Speaker 1: our mom would say, hey, you should should go write
Speaker 1: a song for Santa, and Max and I would say
Speaker 1: at the piano and right, you know, Santa's evening flight.
Speaker 1: They had like a neighborhood Santa there. This is like
Speaker 1: the this is the craziest thing. I wish I had
Speaker 1: this as a kid where the same person every year
Speaker 1: and different people had different Santas, but the same person
Speaker 1: every year in this neighborhood would dress up as Santa
Speaker 1: and come to the house and visit. But it was
Speaker 1: the same person. So every year as a kid, it's
Speaker 1: like they shout out to uh, Billy Batista, the Italian Santa,
Speaker 1: the original Italian Santa. He was. He was incredible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was real. I mean two that was
Speaker 1: that was a lot of pressure, you know, as a kid,
Speaker 1: and it was it was intense. There was a lot
Speaker 1: on the line. Right, yeah, this is Christmas. Did you
Speaker 1: get this wrong me in your house? Oh yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he's skipped in the place. You're not getting any now.
Speaker 1: But it was really, it really was cool getting Santa's
Speaker 1: feedback on some of our first songs. Did he really
Speaker 1: actually give you like thoughts on it? Oh? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: still send him every song we write. You set him trampling,
Speaker 1: He was liken. Well, that is one of the best
Speaker 1: first like early music experiences I've ever heard. ChEls. What
Speaker 1: about you, What were some of your first musical explorations.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Frank Sinatra fan. So um. I was
Speaker 1: a really crazy wild child and I would just be
Speaker 1: like all over the place, and my mom to get
Speaker 1: me to go to bed, she would put in like
Speaker 1: this little Frank Sinatra tape, things like Best of Frank
Speaker 1: Sinatra or something, and I would just run and sing
Speaker 1: the whole like the whole album. And it was just
Speaker 1: a way to make me go to sleep. But I
Speaker 1: would say I was obsessed with a Carriek machine when
Speaker 1: I was a kid. I got a Carrie Machine for
Speaker 1: Christmas and it's probably twelve and I swear every day
Speaker 1: after school, I would go downstairs and I would just
Speaker 1: be glued to the karaoke machine for hours. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was. And I was singing like very
Speaker 1: interesting songs, but um like what, I don't know, Like
Speaker 1: I was obsessed with like a Carpenter song. I was
Speaker 1: always singing and sing like a Michael Jackson song like
Speaker 1: any are you Okay? Or something? You know. It was
Speaker 1: just like it was a whole thing. And Christmas songs.
Speaker 1: I mean, like the Christmas song is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite songs. Machine. Oh yeah, Well, I gotta ask all
Speaker 1: of you, what what do your go to karaoke songs? Max?
Speaker 1: You can go first. He has a go to, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a go to Bending the Jets by own John.
Speaker 1: But it's better if there's is an actual piano. If
Speaker 1: there's live karaoke, it's game over. I'm just jamming it.
Speaker 1: But but also after the five thousand time, I think
Speaker 1: it's new. I think you even knew. And we do
Speaker 1: a lot of singing in a lot of karaoke ing,
Speaker 1: and it's always been in the jazz for Max, which
Speaker 1: is hilarious. We also used to do cover shows back
Speaker 1: in the day, like four hour cover shows and DC
Speaker 1: like that's how we would kind of supplement some supplements,
Speaker 1: some of the you know when we before Trampling and me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were doing a lot of these cover shows and
Speaker 1: I would usually sing you can't Always get what you
Speaker 1: want by the Rolling Stones, like all all thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And we also did be fifty twos Love Shock, which
Speaker 1: was so cringe e that I'm sure you can picture
Speaker 1: in your mom It was so bad, it was so bad.
Speaker 1: This was this was a few years before Trampline. Hope,
Speaker 1: thank god. Yeah, this was like, this was a few
Speaker 1: year or something. But but yeah, oh man, that makes
Speaker 1: me stressed thinking about those times. But well, I know
Speaker 1: you first started out singing at the nine thirty Club,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like you you recently went back there.
Speaker 1: What was that homecoming like for you? That must have
Speaker 1: been really special. Oh my gosh, it was so cool. Well,
Speaker 1: I've I met these guys at the nine thirty Club.
Speaker 1: So the first time I met them, I was fifteen,
Speaker 1: and um, I think it was fifteen. It was two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, and I was told by a friend,
Speaker 1: you need to go to the ninety Club. There's an
Speaker 1: amazing band that is opening up the show and they're
Speaker 1: twins and they're really super cool. So my parents did
Speaker 1: not let me go to d C alone, obviously, and
Speaker 1: so my parents brought me. It was just them to playing.
Speaker 1: We were what you weren't headlining that we were open.
Speaker 1: You weren't headlining, but you were opening with a local band,
Speaker 1: and it was so amazing and we just became best
Speaker 1: friends after that. So we met there and then to
Speaker 1: go back to the you know, to the nine thirty
Speaker 1: club and playing like one of the bigger shows that
Speaker 1: we've played, and it's a hometown show and everyone's hype
Speaker 1: and our family and friends are there. Definitely emotional and
Speaker 1: definitely like a super cool experience because it's just like
Speaker 1: where it all started, which was super cool. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, the success measure up to what you imagined
Speaker 1: when when you were growing up. Absolutely even better. Honestly,
Speaker 1: headlining club for a sort out show with all your
Speaker 1: friends and family and in your hometown. That was that's
Speaker 1: gotta be up there probably my favorite show. It was
Speaker 1: my favorite show too. A lot of our dreams have
Speaker 1: come true, um, and we're so thankful, and you know,
Speaker 1: we got to for traveling the world. We went to Japan,
Speaker 1: we went to, you know, London. We just have been
Speaker 1: doing so many fun things these past couple of years
Speaker 1: because of Trampoline and you know, because of everyone's love
Speaker 1: and support. So we're so thankful and just still pinching
Speaker 1: ourselves every minute of every day, for sure. The last
Speaker 1: show we did was with Lizzo in Mexico Ports of
Speaker 1: Arta on the beach and they were huntback Whales Kid.
Speaker 1: He's not I'm not swear jumping out of the water,
Speaker 1: no joke like putting on a show for everyone there.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was insanity. And that was right before
Speaker 1: the pandemic basically, so that was the last show we
Speaker 1: we we had, So we consider ourselves very lucky. So
Speaker 1: we're we are thankful we had some truly amazing, amazing
Speaker 1: shows before, you know, but I mean, like Chelsea said,
Speaker 1: even now, we're also grateful that we have We have
Speaker 1: had this time to write an entire album that really
Speaker 1: came from us trying to look at our emotions and
Speaker 1: be honest with each other, and we're very proud of it.
Speaker 1: I know, being not being able to tour is is
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for for so many reasons. So I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you have you ever had any spinal
Speaker 1: tap style moments where it just like tour many disasters.
Speaker 1: Oh um, well, tour is just filled with um, sleepless nights,
Speaker 1: people getting sick max like a horrible, horrible flu. It
Speaker 1: was so bad. I can't I can't even tell you.
Speaker 1: I was like literally puking in a trash can in
Speaker 1: San Francisco like five seconds before walking on stage. But
Speaker 1: I was wearing a mask. I felt like I was
Speaker 1: getting that in the ether. Yeah, and you know, losing instruments, um,
Speaker 1: me wanting to kill both of them and yeah. So
Speaker 1: it's just like it's always just such an interesting and
Speaker 1: it's you know, tour is so great and just playing
Speaker 1: shows in new places, um, seeing fans, like traveling all
Speaker 1: that is great, but it's it can be so exhausting.
Speaker 1: So I think that we haven't been home for more
Speaker 1: than two weeks before this pandemic in the last almost
Speaker 1: two years, so just being able to and I am
Speaker 1: for sure a homebody more so than then. I'm always
Speaker 1: getting a little homesick on tour and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: having a great time. But so I think that we
Speaker 1: just needed this reset for a minute, you know, and
Speaker 1: especially like we had ditched the songs, and we were
Speaker 1: like just all in a place where we were just
Speaker 1: feeling frustrated. We wanted to write, but really couldn't find
Speaker 1: our voice at the moment. And then the pandemic hit
Speaker 1: and we were just you know, the confusion of everything,
Speaker 1: the anxiety of everything just like made us not even
Speaker 1: want to do anything, um, which made us even more depressed.
Speaker 1: For like, we don't even want to write music all
Speaker 1: this time, it was impossible. It's like, we finally have
Speaker 1: a minute and we can't even do that. And then
Speaker 1: like just something clicked one day and we just kind
Speaker 1: of like we gotta get this going. And then we've
Speaker 1: just been writing, you know, kind of ever since since.
Speaker 1: It's been so fun seeing these evolves. There's not that
Speaker 1: we weren't trying to write, it was just at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the pandemic, it was really difficult, you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to be creative, being creative, and we're we're
Speaker 1: getting used to us Chelsea, and I love living with
Speaker 1: your parents. They're amazing, but just like the whole our
Speaker 1: whole world was just just kind of flipped, you know,
Speaker 1: and it took some time to get used to it.
Speaker 1: But I was gonna say, it sounds like you you,
Speaker 1: you moved and you finished an album in the midst
Speaker 1: of all this. I think, you know, I still feel
Speaker 1: like proud of myself for like, you know, putting pants
Speaker 1: on during a pandemic. So like you know, you're you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're doing pretty damn good. I gotta say, what's next
Speaker 1: for you? What can fans look forward to? When do
Speaker 1: you have Are you able to say when the album's
Speaker 1: slated for? Yes, we're looking at April. At the moment um,
Speaker 1: April is uh, it's coming up quick. But we got
Speaker 1: all the song songs are ready to go, and we
Speaker 1: just needed like some strings on a couple more. And
Speaker 1: we have another song coming out early December, which we're
Speaker 1: really excited for, more of a ballad with a lot
Speaker 1: of strings, which are it's gonna be great. And so
Speaker 1: the meantime, we're just going to keep making big breakfasts
Speaker 1: and making sure everything's good. And yeah. Well, my my
Speaker 1: last question, and I asked us of everyone if, if
Speaker 1: if you could snap your fingers and everything go back
Speaker 1: to whatever your definition of normal is in nineteen say
Speaker 1: what would be the first thing that you would do
Speaker 1: people to hug places to go. Very good question. Well,
Speaker 1: my grandma lives. We just moved right next to my grandma,
Speaker 1: seven minutes away, and I've not been able to hunker
Speaker 1: since the pandemic. So I'd say, hug my grandma and
Speaker 1: then go to like Greece or something. Just fly away,
Speaker 1: get it on an airplane and not have to We
Speaker 1: flew to Florida a couple of weeks ago, and I
Speaker 1: almost died because it was a full flight. It was
Speaker 1: just a disaster of Florida is all chaos. So getting
Speaker 1: on a plane that's normal and not filled, going to
Speaker 1: some fun place and feeling like and we went to
Speaker 1: Florida just for the record, just to shoot a music video.
Speaker 1: Wasn't for any kind of vacation. Oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, it was not a vacation. Well it was amazing,
Speaker 1: but Florida's crazy in the best way possible. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. Good answer, Good answer. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I would do. I feel like they
Speaker 1: would want to go out, go out to like a
Speaker 1: restaurant or something and be able to sit inside and
Speaker 1: not worry about I'd probably go to a due karaoke
Speaker 1: to be honest, and probably god you probably a bunch
Speaker 1: of my bet with a bunch of our best friends,
Speaker 1: just like have a big, fun karaoke party. That would
Speaker 1: be pretty sweet. Yeah, I think I would, like, Chelsea said, honestly,
Speaker 1: just give a hog to all my family and friends
Speaker 1: and and um, it's hard not you know, hanging out
Speaker 1: with people, especially now that we're home. It's like, that's
Speaker 1: what I know. It's like, where's our house warring party? Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we throw a fun housewarming party. But no complaints,
Speaker 1: you know, for We're just very happy to be doing
Speaker 1: what we're doing and staying safe. Chelsea, Spencer, Max has
Speaker 1: been awesome talk and you thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your time today. Thank You's a much. Jordan's appreciate it.
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