WEBVTT - ITS Home Edition: Shaed 0:00:01.840 --> 0:00:05.120 Welcome to Inside the Studio presented by I Heart Radio. 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:17.759 I'm your host Joe Levy. So before the pandemic, the 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:20.599 guest on this week's home edition of the show, Shade, 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:24.040 hadn't actually been home for more than two weeks in 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.880 the last two years, because two years that's how long 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.000 ago the indie pop trios hit Trampoline came out, and 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.680 they've spent an awful lot of their time since then 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.080 in a van on the road. Now, they did put 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:39.120 together an album's worth of new songs during that time, 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.600 but once the world slowed down during Lockdown, they didn't 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.559 think that music sounded much like them, so they hit reset. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:47.680 You know, the home edition of Inside the Studio is 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:50.720 all about letting you know how the pandemic has impacted 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:52.919 the lives of artists, how it's affecting the way they 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:56.400 make music. And Shade talked with our Quarantine correspondent, Jordan 0:00:56.520 --> 0:01:00.880 Runtalg about the challenges and rewards of staying creative during 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.760 this difficult time. You know. They also explained how you 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.919 get a thirteen piece string section on your new music 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.399 during lockdown and I don't want to give anything away 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:13.280 but masks and a very long Distance Zoom Call are 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:16.640 involved as always. If you enjoy this episode, be sure 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.160 to check out the I Heart Radio podcast that Jordan's hosts. 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.640 It's called Rivals Music's Greatest Feuds, and it's available wherever 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:34.759 you get your shows. Hello everyone, my name is Jordan 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:37.479 runt Odd, but enough about me. My guests today are 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:39.960 three friends from the d C Metro area. They've been 0:01:40.000 --> 0:01:41.960 making music together since they were in high school, but 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.960 they got the world's attention with the single Trampoline, blending 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.840 indie pop, would dreamy electro beats and elegant vocals. The 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.280 track has gone double platinum and earned a feature from 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.240 Zane Malick. Now, as they prepared to drop their first LP, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.400 the band are back with a new single, No Other 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.720 Way the Threesome found their name and a fantasy book series. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.120 It's a reference to a cloak made of shadow and light. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.520 I think that's the perfect way to characterize their moody, 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:09.080 melodic talents. I'm so happy to welcome Shade Chelsea, Max Spencer, 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:10.680 thank you so much for taking the time today. It's 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.079 so great to talk to you. Yes, of course, thank 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:14.920 you so much for having us. Oh my god, so 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.680 much to ask you about First of all, your your 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.480 new single No Other Way. It's incredible, I mean, empowering 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.200 lyrics and it's impossible not to dance to. And I'm 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.320 a non dancer, so that's really that says a lot 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.120 coming from me. Uh, can tell me a little more 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.400 where this one came from? Yeah, so we um. He 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:35.959 wrote this song a couple of months ago. All Chelsea 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.320 and I were quarantining with her parents at the time, 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.800 and Max was coming over all the time as well, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.320 and we were feeling, you know, there was a lot 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:50.680 of emotions, UM, very anxious, UM, just stressed out with 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:53.600 everything that was happening in the world, and we wanted 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:57.160 to write a song to remind us to try to 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.400 stay present, you know, and appreciate the life that we 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:03.880 still have, and we also wanted something to dance to. UM. 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.680 So we Yeah, we just wrote this tune and and 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.200 we're super excited to share it with people. Now. Now, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:11.600 you were in the midst of working on your first 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.800 LP when the pandemic began. Have you retooled much of 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:17.000 it in the wake of everything that's come the last 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:22.280 couple of months. No, Basically, we are at the beginning 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:26.239 of last summer. We had a basically an entire album. 0:03:26.240 --> 0:03:30.720 You know, we we had Trampoline and that success kind 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.960 of helped us get with some really big writers, which 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:35.920 was just such a fun experience. But we had kind 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:41.200 of a handful of songs. I mean, essentially an entire album, 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.800 it's worth of songs, but it was just pretty mishmashed, 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.240 a bunch of different people, um, a bunch of different 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.080 you know, different subject matters, and it just didn't feel 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.839 like us. So basically, we were in Portland, I think, 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:57.960 oh no, we're in Seattle and we were just sitting 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.320 around the kitchen table at I just said, these have 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:05.320 got to go, We've got to start over, and so um, 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.080 we just got back on the road. We're on the 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.040 road for a bit. And then the pandemic happened and 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:11.760 we were able to finally kind of hunker down and 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:15.080 you know, get all our ships done. So that was 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:18.800 and this album just feels so much truer to us 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.240 and who we are and what we are and so 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.800 no regrets there for sure. How is writing at home 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.480 different from writing on the road? Is it like much 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.560 more communal in do you have a preference I would 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:34.160 say writing at home because when we're on the road. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:37.960 I'm asleep in the van the entire time, um, and 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.800 we're just like exhausted. We're running around, we're doing a 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.119 much of like radio press. We're you know, having the show, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:45.680 and then after the show, we're just exhausted, and then 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.120 we're in the van the rest of the time, So 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.960 so much time to write. I would love to be 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:51.920 able to do that. That would be like a superpower. 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:57.760 I think, Um, yeah, we aren't in the bus life 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.719 world where we could have a studio and the bus 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.880 when Spence on our driving the van and we'll try 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.640 to make beats in the in the car, but it's 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:08.240 it's not the same. And as Chelsea was saying, we 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.920 just for for two years we were basically on the 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:14.320 road promoting trampoline and playing festivals, and we had this 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:16.880 album ready, and then once the pandemic hit, it was 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:19.440 just we had like a moment of clarity and we 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.279 were just like, you know, this isn't it didn't feel 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.800 true to ourselves, and we just had all all of 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.960 this free time to actually make an album. And it 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.480 was definitely kind of rough for the first couple of 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.720 weeks because we were just feeling the emotions. I think 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.320 everyone else was feeling just all this you know, worry 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:40.840 and just just getting used to spending all of your 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:44.279 time indoors. But we just kind of embraced that and 0:05:44.320 --> 0:05:48.000 just hunker down and wrote the majority of this album 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.880 in a couple of months, and it's just been kind 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:53.279 of fleshing out these ten songs since then. So I 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:55.440 was gonna say, you were on the road for years, 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:57.960 living out of airbnb s on the festival circuit. It 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.520 must be a huge adjustment being stationary for this long now. Yeah, 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:05.640 definitely an adjustment, um, but a good one. We needed 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.960 a break, We needed like a time to kind of 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:13.000 settle down. We we all moved into Spence and I 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.200 moved into a house and Falls Church, Virginia. Max moved 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.880 into d C. And I don't think that we would 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.520 have ever been able to like take this next chapter 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.320 step if it hadn't been for the pandemic. So it's 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.360 a little bit of a silver lining for that for sure. Now, 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.520 what does the typical writing day look like to you? 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:31.560 Is this something that you do every day, almost like, 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:34.080 you know, just chipping at it a little way at 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.240 a time, or do you wait until you're inspired to 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:37.600 say Okay, I got this new song. I want to 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.760 go get together and work on it. Well, the day 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:44.560 starts with a amazing breakfast that Chelsea makes every morning. 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:49.120 That yes, well it depends, but I mean a lot 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:54.120 of times we got get some fresh eggs, maybe some 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:58.839 some avocado, some berries, uh, and we'll have our morning coffee. 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.480 So we gotta start with that. We're Chelsea and I 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.160 were married, by the way, me and Chelsey and I 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.320 are married. So we get up very early every morning 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:13.080 and kind of try to start start with a healthy morning. Um, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.920 I think, uh, we try to write every day, but 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.239 more recently we we have like a bunch of songs 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.760 that were really excited about. So we've been focused on 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:25.880 really honing in on the on some of these tunes 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.840 and making sure like the drums sounds are perfect, the 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.200 transitions are great between the chorus and the verse, you know, 0:07:31.240 --> 0:07:33.520 all that kind of stuff. But even so, we we 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.600 think it's important to continue to try to write aside 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:40.520 from Chelsea's amazing, unmistakable voice. Is there an instrument that 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.640 you feel is the most crucial to your sound, Like, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.520 you know, an instrument that you always sort of start 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.520 with and go from, is like your secret ingredient. Chelsea's 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:50.680 voice is definitely the most that's we we write all 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:54.840 of our music around her vocals. But for this new album, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.200 one thing that we're very excited about incorporating has been 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:03.160 UM live strings. So we have like a thirteen piece 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.760 string section all over this album. That's so we've already 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:11.280 booked of a session for no other way. The strings 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.200 are on that song and for the next single coming 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.600 out UM Once Upon a Time. But uh, it's been 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:20.880 interesting because we were working with this string arranger who 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:23.440 did the all of the arrangements on the last Angel 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.240 Olsen album, All Mirrors. I don't know if you've yeah, 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:28.240 So he did a bunch of arranging on that, and 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.160 we just were fans of his work, so we reached 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:32.719 out to him and he came back at us with 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.880 all these great parts, and after we'd flushed them out, 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:37.480 it was time to kind of figure out how we 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:41.800 were going to actually record, you know, thirteen players in 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:44.880 the middle of a pandemic. And he had worked with 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:52.839 this Northern Macedonian string section before, so yeah, which was incredible. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:55.319 So we they were all wearing masks and being safe, 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.240 but they we basically had a zoom call into this 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:03.360 beautiful studio in northern Macedonia with thirteen players and engineer 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.360 and like a you know, conductor for three hours and 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.920 we're able to knock out two songs. So that's just 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:11.840 been a huge part of this new album that's been 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:14.760 shaping up to be a big voice all over it. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.600 So I'm I'm so excited about that, excited to hear it. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.959 I'm so fascinated by the relationship between composer and arranger. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:22.720 I mean, I think of someone like Paul McCartney sitting 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.760 down with George Martin to work on the string arrangements 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.839 for for Yesterday and almost going line by line. Does 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.600 the arranger do they give you multiple options of Okay, 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:32.560 we can take you know, this voicing here and go 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.560 up to this sort of bluesy note, or we can 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.839 play it more like a Bok corral or something like that. 0:09:37.400 --> 0:09:40.160 How what was your relationship like working with the arranger? Yeah, 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.319 so this was our first time ever working with um 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:46.360 a composer, So Jarek Bischoff shout out to him. He's 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.880 been just incredible. Um So the way a lot of 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:54.840 these songs already had like, uh, synthesizer strings, or not. 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:58.280 So you know, I guess you call it strings like 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:01.160 would you say, we're like sampoldst ings that sound like 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:06.520 those strings? But there so when we yeah, so they 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.319 sound good, but we so we had some sample strings 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.760 string parts for a lot of the songs and we 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:16.880 sent over those two Jerik and he first of all 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.800 would tab those out so that we could have an 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:22.640 orchestra actually play those parts. But then he also created 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:27.080 all these beautiful melodies and you know, different um string 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:30.040 hooks and stuff like that that he that he thought 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:32.040 would be good. And then he sent him back to 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.719 us and we were able to comb through everything and 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:37.520 then sort of structure it as well. So it was 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:41.640 a really great back and forth um with him. And Yeah. 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.000 Then at that point we would go to the actual 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.719 orchestra and he had part by part structured for them, 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.439 so they would just they just knocked it out of it. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.240 It was pretty amazing to see because he they would 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.160 just piece by piece. In three hours, we had all 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.120 the different parts that we wanted to Pj's and Chelsea 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:59.600 would like pop in and be like, what's going on 0:10:59.600 --> 0:11:02.280 to really we're on you know, we're on the course too, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:05.520 And it was it was wild. But that must be emotional. 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:08.360 Oh yeah, I mean just seeing on the orchestra playing 0:11:08.400 --> 0:11:10.160 something you wrote. I mean, I can't even imagine what 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.400 that feels like. As a composer, that's gonna feel amazing. 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.480 It was incredible. We were like in your crying, We're like, wow, 0:11:15.480 --> 0:11:18.960 this is like sounding incredible. I was also hungover, so 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.640 it was really particularly emotional for me. But UM, I 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.920 don't know, no, but it's it's been. It's shout out 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:38.600 to Jerich. He's so talented and he's quick up. I 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:40.880 wanted to ask you, I know everyone asked you about 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:42.960 your band name. I wanted to ask you how it 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.520 relates to your sound. As I said in the intro, 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:48.440 shade as a cloak made of shadow and light. What 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.600 drew you to that word? What is it that you know? 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.720 How do you feel it relates to to you and 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.320 your music? UM? I think that for us, we kind 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:00.520 of do when we read, Um, we kind of do 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.240 a book club situation where Spencer will read a book 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:05.880 and then he'll pass it on, and then he'll pass 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.959 it on. So this one particular book, Uh, Spencer did 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.040 a bunch of research and he read the book and 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.439 he said you have to read it, said it. Erry 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.360 gave it to me. I read it, and the Max 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:20.880 read it, and then we were looking for names, and shade, 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.480 just alone in the book, regardless of definition or anything 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.120 like that, just looked like such a cool word to us. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:33.720 And you know, then knowing that it's a protective cloak 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:37.600 and you know it's it's woven by Goddess and everyone 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:39.960 kind of perceives it differently, it just seemed like a 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.360 really cool and we love this book so much, so 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.640 it's like, um, it just was just seemed to fit. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.760 You know. What are you reading now in the book club? Oh? 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:53.400 My gosh, right now, I'm reading a book, um that 0:12:53.600 --> 0:13:00.200 was recommended to me. It's called Breasts and Eggs. So, um, 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.280 I'm only on my page two because I just started 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.680 reading it. But that is my that is when I 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.199 am reading at the Moon. Spencer is reading Charlie and 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:12.800 the Chocolate Factory right now, the original. Yeah, but I 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.440 just beinge the the like the Girl with the Dragon 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:21.360 Tattoo series as well. I just it was really good. Max. 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:23.920 What are you reading? I'm reading h Have you heard 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:29.520 of When Things Fall Apart? By m Very appropriate for 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.000 the times right now, so I'm just trying to piece 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.360 my life together and read this when things fell apart book. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:38.280 So it's been good there. That's the Shade book club 0:13:38.360 --> 0:13:44.040 Ladies and gentlemen. Yes, very diverse reading. Well. I read 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.920 that you wrote Trampoline the lyrics at least in about 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.160 a day, very very fast. Do you find that the 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:51.640 best songs come quickly they just kind of burst out 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:56.880 of you? M I would say no, because I mean Trampoline, 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.880 we did have the lyrics very quickly, but that's all 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.840 just was like it took of you know, it took 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:08.600 us forever to evolve it just because we were always 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.240 how many different parts we you know, like it was 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:13.880 I just like always, so it took us forever to 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.600 actually get it out. Probably like there was I think 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:21.200 the song itself was written quickly, but then in terms 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.400 of like the production and extra vocal melodies and stuff 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.720 to layer on top of it. Um. He worked with 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.440 this great producer Alex Mendoza too, who brought a fresh 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.680 perspective um, specifically with the choruses, like he kind of 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:38.360 brought all the instrumentation down and really slowed that part 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.880 of the song. So the production took a while to 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:43.760 figure out. But the lyrics were written like definitely in 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:45.880 a day, and the main parts of the song we're 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.800 written in a day. So I think it does depend 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:54.480 on whether or not you know some songs. Some songs 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.200 come easily and that's great, but others do take a while, 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.000 and I think you can always some of those songs 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.000 for us are some of our favorites. So we went 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.680 on so many rabbit holes are trampoline that by the 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.040 time we finished it, I think all of us were 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:11.840 just like turn it off. We were just we weren't 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.600 even sure where we ended up, but we felt like 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.280 it was done. We just were like, all right, this 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.360 was there a moment that you knew that it was 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.440 really taking off, as there like a lightning bolt moment 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:22.760 for you. I would say the Apple commercial was definitely 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:29.440 they like, oh this, here we go. I think that 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:33.120 was like such a cool um like absolute dream. I mean, 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:38.400 we grew up and you know, Feist has her Apple 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.680 commercial and that was just like the coolest thing in 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.560 the world and that was just so iconic and so 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:49.080 just for us to have an Apple commercial was just insanity. 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.840 So I think that's when we were like, this is amazing. 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:57.680 I mean yeah, So I live in d C. So I, um, 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.920 I've had some pretty cool experiences with the song. But 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:04.040 but like just a couple of weeks ago, I pulled 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.160 up in front of my house and I heard Trampoline 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.320 Plane outside of my car. I thought it was inside 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:09.960 my car, and then I thought I maybe it came 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.320 on the radio, and I realized it was coming from 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.040 outside the car. So I hop out of the car 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:19.480 and it's blaring down the block like stadium level. Like 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:21.000 I have no idea. I like, I never heard it 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.520 this loud in my life. And I was just like 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.000 following the song, and I thought maybe one of my 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:27.280 neighbors was messing with me. And I just was walking 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.320 down the block and then I see this lady on 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.760 the porch, just sitting on this enormous speaker on her 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.880 front porch, just jamming to Trampoline Uh. And I just 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.200 walked across the street and I was like, hey, Like 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:45.280 she saw me standing there awkwardly, and she just pausing music. 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.520 She's like, what's going on. I'm like, that's my song. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:49.920 I was like, hey, I'm Max, that's my song. You're 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:51.360 listening to you? And she's like, oh my god, I 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:53.240 love this song. This is my jam too, Like, this 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.400 is my favorite song. And I was like, no, like 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.720 I made that beat with my brother and his wife. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:00.520 We're in a band together. And she just was like 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.440 her mind was blown. It was just such a funny 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.639 experience and she was just like, you're lying, you're not 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.480 and I was like, no, that's that's me. So even 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:11.200 now it's cool to have like experiences like that. Then 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.520 we never thought a million years we'd have so yeah. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.400 And and also to add to that, I think, honestly, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:18.760 you always dream of hearing your song on the radio, 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:23.600 but um, you never think it's gonna happen. So just 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:27.000 being you know, we were in l A. And uh, 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.439 we'd heard. First of all, we heard our song on 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:32.720 our local alternative station DC one on one, and that 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:35.160 in itself was just incredible because we grew up listening 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.320 to that station and we know all those guys. But then, 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.080 you know, we go to the West Coast and we're 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.760 in l A. And the song comes on on the 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.760 biggest pop station and it was like those kind of things. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.840 You're just pretty it's pretty incredible. You've been singing together 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.440 practically since the womb, right, I mean, you were toddlers 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.880 and you're making music together. Yeah, we were starting five 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.000 years old. There you go, shout out to our mom 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.240 who taught us how to write songs and how us 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.200 write songs for say a clause. That was like our thing, 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.320 songs for Santa. Like every time he got into fight, 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.160 our mom would say, hey, you should should go write 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.000 a song for Santa, and Max and I would say 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:12.200 at the piano and right, you know, Santa's evening flight. 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:15.199 They had like a neighborhood Santa there. This is like 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.199 the this is the craziest thing. I wish I had 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:22.160 this as a kid where the same person every year 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.960 and different people had different Santas, but the same person 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:29.200 every year in this neighborhood would dress up as Santa 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.040 and come to the house and visit. But it was 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.240 the same person. So every year as a kid, it's 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:40.040 like they shout out to uh, Billy Batista, the Italian Santa, 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.440 the original Italian Santa. He was. He was incredible. Yeah, 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.720 that was that was real. I mean two that was 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:51.640 that was a lot of pressure, you know, as a kid, 0:18:52.200 --> 0:18:54.920 and it was it was intense. There was a lot 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:59.159 on the line. Right, yeah, this is Christmas. Did you 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.120 get this wrong me in your house? Oh yeah, he's 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.199 he's skipped in the place. You're not getting any now. 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:09.000 But it was really, it really was cool getting Santa's 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.960 feedback on some of our first songs. Did he really 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.240 actually give you like thoughts on it? Oh? Yeah, I 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.320 still send him every song we write. You set him trampling, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:20.760 He was liken. Well, that is one of the best 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.840 first like early music experiences I've ever heard. ChEls. What 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:27.120 about you, What were some of your first musical explorations. 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:31.399 I'm a big Frank Sinatra fan. So um. I was 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:35.639 a really crazy wild child and I would just be 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.800 like all over the place, and my mom to get 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.399 me to go to bed, she would put in like 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.480 this little Frank Sinatra tape, things like Best of Frank 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.040 Sinatra or something, and I would just run and sing 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:47.520 the whole like the whole album. And it was just 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:51.159 a way to make me go to sleep. But I 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:55.480 would say I was obsessed with a Carriek machine when 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.359 I was a kid. I got a Carrie Machine for 0:19:57.560 --> 0:20:03.600 Christmas and it's probably twelve and I swear every day 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.080 after school, I would go downstairs and I would just 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:11.000 be glued to the karaoke machine for hours. I don't 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.440 know what it was. And I was singing like very 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:19.800 interesting songs, but um like what, I don't know, Like 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.520 I was obsessed with like a Carpenter song. I was 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.760 always singing and sing like a Michael Jackson song like 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.560 any are you Okay? Or something? You know. It was 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.040 just like it was a whole thing. And Christmas songs. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:34.119 I mean, like the Christmas song is one of my 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:41.120 favorite songs. Machine. Oh yeah, Well, I gotta ask all 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.119 of you, what what do your go to karaoke songs? Max? 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.200 You can go first. He has a go to, Yeah, 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.480 I have a go to Bending the Jets by own John. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:53.719 But it's better if there's is an actual piano. If 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.040 there's live karaoke, it's game over. I'm just jamming it. 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:59.760 But but also after the five thousand time, I think 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.960 it's new. I think you even knew. And we do 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.600 a lot of singing in a lot of karaoke ing, 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.160 and it's always been in the jazz for Max, which 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.919 is hilarious. We also used to do cover shows back 0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:13.920 in the day, like four hour cover shows and DC 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.919 like that's how we would kind of supplement some supplements, 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.200 some of the you know when we before Trampling and me, Yeah, 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.159