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Speaker 1: I'm really scrutinizing the passing game, right, But the nice

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get that in the league. What I wanted

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Speaker 1: was on time, Boom, get it out accurately, and Pickens

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Speaker 1: Myles Boykin had a nice when we used it to

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Speaker 1: I mean look at Steven sims He's gonna be in

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Speaker 1: with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Steelers going through some

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Speaker 1: team drills here. If it looks like the first down

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Speaker 1: drills once again. Mr Bisky taking the snaps with the

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Speaker 1: first unit, but Mason Rudolph working with the twos here.

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Speaker 1: Uh now we got Kenny take it out, don't believe

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Speaker 1: uh some third team ram Yeah it is. I mean

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Speaker 1: you can't see the can't see the jersey. You always

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Speaker 1: always look for the gloves. Mrs. That was tra Bisky

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Speaker 1: getting it to Anthony Miller and Miller getting it up field, turning.

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Speaker 1: He just gets upfield. He does. He's quick to get

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Speaker 1: you know, quick to downfield and yeah and get downhill.

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Speaker 1: Quick to talk. I haven't. I've paid really focused on

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Speaker 1: the offense much more than the defense today. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like some of the stud defenders are kind of

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Speaker 1: getting the day Cam Heyward, no t J. Watt today,

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Speaker 1: some of the other guys. It's made things a little

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Speaker 1: bit easier on the offense to to get things done.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna use as an excuse either, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean everybody short, some guys. I just like to

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Speaker 1: get in the coach's head and be like, well, what

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Speaker 1: should we work on today after two days of pads.

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Speaker 1: Give the big guys some much needed rest, you know,

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Speaker 1: get them to the finished near to the starting line,

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Speaker 1: go from there. That was nice by Heyward too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: little brother Hayward, I'm talking about now, a little little

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Speaker 1: headges I think, middle of the field, catch the ball,

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Speaker 1: get up field, you know, put your head down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just sit down on the zone, turn and turn eight

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Speaker 1: yards down and sit down. And tre Risky got him

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Speaker 1: the football. He turned quickly and get the ball back

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Speaker 1: up the field again. More completed passes today than what

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Speaker 1: we've seen in some previous days now without not in

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Speaker 1: pads today, but uh still um, and Mason's back out there. Um,

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Speaker 1: I would think again, I think that's because they want

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Speaker 1: Mason running that second unit two minutes old and makes sense. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Anthony McFarland and Jaln Warren on the field together here

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Speaker 1: they were both side carring. Uh you hear about that

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Speaker 1: a lot and then actually seeing it in practice. Little

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Speaker 1: ball fake Uh, no flag on that one. What's worth

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Speaker 1: the wrist though Mason pretty much put it word on me,

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Speaker 1: the receiver can get to it. A little pump fake

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Speaker 1: on that which you'd like to see there. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: freeze the defender a little bit. That was James Pierre

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Speaker 1: in coverage on that one, and he did a nice

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Speaker 1: job coming through the receiver sims and and not drawing

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Speaker 1: a flag because again there are officials down there. Didn't

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Speaker 1: have a lot of room to work with with where

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Speaker 1: the ball was placed. Again, he kind of kept it

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Speaker 1: out of harm's way. Only one, you know, the only

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Speaker 1: bad thing that could happen would probably a deflection or whatever,

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Speaker 1: which you know, that was a good, good work by Mason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's one you'd like see maybe one of those bigger

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Speaker 1: bodied receivers. Maybe they come down with Steven Sims still

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Speaker 1: being a little not attally right, Anthony Miller again getting

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Speaker 1: up field. Yes, he's he's pretty explosive. Yes, nice Chris

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Speaker 1: route runner, and you know, considering with what they're working with,

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Speaker 1: he's like the most reliable guy out there. Yeah. The

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Speaker 1: start stop is is again just stopped. Catch the ball

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Speaker 1: and get it up field quickly before the defense can

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Speaker 1: close on you, and does a nice job getting it

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Speaker 1: quick to tuck. Is that Mike Tomlin likes to say,

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Speaker 1: get that ball in the way and turn and go. Um.

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Speaker 1: It just seems like he's getting to the point. And

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm getting a little ahead of myself considering who's

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Speaker 1: not here, but I feel like Miller's demanding play it time,

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Speaker 1: playing time. Yeah, Like, how do you not put him

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Speaker 1: on the field because he's making play after play And

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Speaker 1: now he got Miles Boykin down here on the low

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Speaker 1: side as a single. Uh, that's where I'm looking to

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Speaker 1: go with the ball receivers and gull with a press

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Speaker 1: band coverage against your big guy and pick it goes

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Speaker 1: the other way. And that's some kind of miscommunication him

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Speaker 1: and Tyler Sneed did didn't not know a sneed? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tyler Sneed not on the same page there with Pickett.

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Speaker 1: My hunches that's an option route and he can either

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Speaker 1: break it in or out. Who knows who's right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's but they weren't correct. Yeah, somebody they

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Speaker 1: were not on the same page, right, right, right that

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Speaker 1: he threw an outright and he threw an outbreaking route

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Speaker 1: when it was an inbreaking round. Luckily for Kenny pick Itt,

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Speaker 1: Larry Brown was not out there to take that back

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Speaker 1: except that in the Super Bowl. For those I thought

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Speaker 1: you're talking about, remember that one. He was sitting in

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Speaker 1: the seat yesterday a little before this time. It's Sternberger

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Speaker 1: in motion from left to right. Pick It takes the snap,

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Speaker 1: rolls back, gets it out quickly. All right, that was

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Speaker 1: better again, got it out with some timing there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was good again, Chris Breed get it out there accurately.

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Speaker 1: As soon as he caught it. He was turning and throwing,

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Speaker 1: So that that's what they want to see from him.

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Speaker 1: Get a little more Christmas on some of those throws.

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Speaker 1: And uh, I was looking at fifty three on defense,

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Speaker 1: I thought that was Skipper. It was. He had a

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Speaker 1: nice rep there. It's like how he got off the

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Speaker 1: ball as a double check that that's who it was,

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Speaker 1: and give him the proper credit. He's get the red

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Speaker 1: shoes on three this year in camp. I can't remember

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Speaker 1: what he were before, but it was not fifty three.

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Speaker 1: So there's two fifty three in camp and one kinder

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Speaker 1: Greene of course, one on offense, one on defense. Sternberger

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Speaker 1: again left the right motion sets up at the end

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Speaker 1: of the line. Little snap that kind of threw the

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Speaker 1: playoffs and I got badded down to Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: of bad passes, which Drabinsky is only six too. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think some people get the misconception as a second

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Speaker 1: overall pick he's six five or whatever. He's not. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that bad it passes were an issue

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Speaker 1: with him throughout his career. Part of me just thinks

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Speaker 1: that the stealer defensive fronts really getting better at it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've got some guys even you know, at this in

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Speaker 1: the third group here again, a guy like two is

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Speaker 1: our skipper has been around. This is his fourth training camp.

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Speaker 1: He's been around the block a few times. Uh, you

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Speaker 1: know this it's just a little bit different look for

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Speaker 1: some of these guys, especially with Kenny Pickett bunched to

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Speaker 1: the left here, Tyler when he comes back, good snap,

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Speaker 1: pockets sets up well, nice back shoulder. It was a

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Speaker 1: good touch throw to the outside shoulder, good contorting catch

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Speaker 1: there by twenty one whose name I always forget that

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Speaker 1: he's got a funky number, Javon McKinley. Is he's a

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Speaker 1: bigger receiver. I say, he's got good size. That looks

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Speaker 1: like his specialty too is go be big, drive that

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Speaker 1: ball at the corner. Off the ball a little bit

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Speaker 1: and go make a play on the sidelines. That was nice, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: pick it put him right where we should right right.

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Speaker 1: That's the back shoulder throw that they were practicing earlier exactly. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now where you got them gathering here on the other

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Speaker 1: end of the field, coming back towards us from left

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Speaker 1: to right from the press box here. Uh so he

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Speaker 1: looks like we get that looks probably looks like it's

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Speaker 1: the ones. That looks like the ones on ones seven

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Speaker 1: on seven. Here we get we get defensive lineman out there.

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Speaker 1: It might be eleven on eleven. Now it is eleven on,

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Speaker 1: say Chris Warmly out there he's he's leaving his uh Carlo, Um,

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Speaker 1: get Devin Bush out there at linebacker Trabinsky. Yes, it is,

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Speaker 1: it is Trabinsky. Um, I was told. I was asked

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Speaker 1: today with speaking of talking to uh to uh Terall

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Speaker 1: Austin's court. Now it's been talking to talk to a lot.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Tarall Austin today. Asked him about that

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker rotation. He said, right now, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: it's Devin Bush and Miles Jack. But Robert Splein is,

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of pushing there. Um, you know, so

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Speaker 1: he's the clear three. He's the clear three. That was

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Speaker 1: a little foggy to me. I me, yeah, they've been

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Speaker 1: rotating those guys a little bit. I think they want

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Speaker 1: Splean to know both sides, so you make match those guys. Um,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of like your swing interior offensive lineman. Like

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Speaker 1: any of those guys. Are one of those guys goes down,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be the other replacement. So um, the little

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Speaker 1: I've seen it rolling the pocket here, Okay, nobody nobody open.

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Speaker 1: That was by design or not, Like like he was

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Speaker 1: trying to throw this, nobody was open. So he just

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Speaker 1: kept running and tucked it. That's the second time today

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Speaker 1: you and I have commented on Trabisky being a decisive runner.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was just one a bit ago where

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Speaker 1: Adam's got a gap pressure, so Tribisky just went up

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Speaker 1: the b gap and there's a big hole. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of just reminded me like Herbert against the

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Speaker 1: Steelers last year. You know, you see that big hole.

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Speaker 1: Take it, pick up ten easy yards and that's a

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Speaker 1: rollout to the leftiest couple of options over there. Neither

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Speaker 1: one of them were open. Nobody gets out there in

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Speaker 1: front of him, so he just keep feet moving right

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Speaker 1: con past line of scrimmage and you know, duck out

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00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: of bounds if you have to, or slide or whatever.

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00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: And I mean that's something that hasn't been a part

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Speaker 1: of the Steelers offensive recent year. You're listening to the

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Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. Trabisky takes the SnO

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Speaker 1: app but sit out boom caught the ball out right

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Speaker 1: away to jet Zack's entry for about a six yard

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Speaker 1: game there. Yeah. I mean, Gentry is never gonna look

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Speaker 1: explosive coming out of his routes or you know, but

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Speaker 1: that's a nice quick hitting play. With a really accurate

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Speaker 1: football on time right where his tight end. Could you

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Speaker 1: know on his outside hit they paced it well, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: if it's if it's even into his body a little bit,

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Speaker 1: the defender has a chance to make potentially get there,

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Speaker 1: but he puts it out in front of Gentry to

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Speaker 1: allow him, and Gentry turns and gets it up field.

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Speaker 1: With that, you don't know if he breaks a tackle

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Speaker 1: or not. That turns into a big game. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: even not, I mean, what does this I would say

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Speaker 1: if it was first and down, they're supposed to be

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Speaker 1: third down, But I mean it's second in two after

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Speaker 1: that play, right, and that's gonna positive yard. Yeah. They

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Speaker 1: were so bad. They were so on first downs last year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that I mean they were bottom of the league.

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Speaker 1: All right. He held it a bit, but the pass

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Speaker 1: rush didn't seem look at I think he was looking

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Speaker 1: at Miller down the sideline. He had double coverageer So

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Speaker 1: then he dumps it underneath touchdown to check down. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: um and in the pocket held up. Now again, they're

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Speaker 1: not getting a fierce rush here with no paures. That's

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Speaker 1: all part of knowing what the situation is here. Um.

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Speaker 1: I mean I've been very critical of the quarterbacks, especially

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Speaker 1: pick It for holding it too long. But there are

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Speaker 1: times if you're not rushed, you don't have to hold

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Speaker 1: you can't hold it too In that situation that he had,

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Speaker 1: he had a nice pocket. I didn't think he had

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Speaker 1: to rush it there right right again, start the motion here,

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Speaker 1: Rudolph motions Heyward from my left to right. Hyard plays

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Speaker 1: a lot as we look at it. Here it takes

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Speaker 1: the snap. Got a nice pocket. Uh, that one he doubled,

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Speaker 1: clutched and was starting to get a little bit of

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Speaker 1: pressure on him, and maybe he was starting to feel

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Speaker 1: that a little bit. Um not the best pass, but

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Speaker 1: probably was catchable. I'd like to say, Heyward got a

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Speaker 1: hand on it to um get, couldn't get the second

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Speaker 1: hand out on the run there, but to throw out

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Speaker 1: to the to the right there about about fifteen yards

634
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: now went down field right. Yeah, Heywards on the field

635
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: a lot. I think you're going to use him as

636
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: a weapon. Yeah. I think he's just a hard guy

637
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: to accountant. Again, what do you you know when you

638
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: break the huddle? What is he exactly? You know? Is

639
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: he gonna line up in the backfield with in front

640
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: of the back. Is he gonna, you know, be detached.

641
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: Is he going to be in the inline? Now he

642
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: gets wading there with us a sidecar with Rich erbisk

643
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: or Rudolph looks, sets up, gets rid of it. That

644
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: wasn't a bad It wasn't a bad throw. I mean

645
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: that's that's not an easy catch, and it was very

646
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: good coverage. But the ball was exactly where it needed

647
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: to be on his outside hand, you know, to catch

648
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: it and get his shoulders going and go in up field.

649
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: If he would have made the play, Yeah, that was

650
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: the Anthony McFarland. He just didn't got one hand on it,

651
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: couldn't get the second hand up to get on it there.

652
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: But he threaded the needle on that one. Yeah he did. Um.

653
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: I know Haywards listed as a tight end to go

654
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: back to him real quick. And I don't think he's

655
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of carries, you know, true running

656
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: back type carries. But I didn't get you out of

657
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 1: the game kind of stuff if Yeah, I mean, yeah,

658
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: but I think he's closer to you check use check

659
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,959
Speaker 1: than he is Heath Miller. Yeah, you know, I mean

660
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's be an inline y and you

661
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: get a nice pocket there and he gets the ball

662
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: out the miles Boyking on a little crossing crossing route there.

663
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: Boy King turns it upfield, so you get that big

664
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: body rolling down the highway. Better day for the quarterbacks

665
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: today much, I mean, just sharper And it's not necessarily

666
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: who they're throwing too or who the defense is resting.

667
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: It's just the balls coming out of their hands. Better

668
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: for accurate, you know, on time. So maybe this is

669
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: a day that you know, you guys interview Tomlin. He's like, well,

670
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: well maybe they're starting to turn the corner or you know,

671
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: day one of good things to come for Whiskey back

672
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: in there now, um sidecar running back. There's left. We

673
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: get some motion. Well they tight end motions from the

674
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: outside of the inside of two receivers on the left

675
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: and r Whisky drops back. He's got some time that

676
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: kind of time. Thumps it off the Jaylen Warren and

677
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: more looks good with the bombs. Yeah, you can scoot

678
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. We have. Warren's growing on me. I

679
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: mean he can doing the spectacular there. But just when

680
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: you see him with the balls, what you're out there,

681
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, yet Kevin Raider out there Stephen Simms out there, Um,

682
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: you know it's Cody, Cody White's out there. They're working

683
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: and gets the number one defensive backs here. Yeah, you're

684
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: never gonna be in a game situation where those guys

685
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: are all gonna be on the field together. And you

686
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: mentioned the motion, you know, like in that play, they

687
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: had a tight end outside the numbers as the far

688
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: farthest dude on the left and just to see what

689
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: look you get, and then they motioned them back in,

690
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: you know, And that's a good indicator. If a linebackers

691
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: out there on him, you're getting man. If not, then

692
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: you're probably getting zone. So you have a bunch better

693
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: feel for the coverage before the ball's even snap. That

694
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: was that's a good throw. That's a good throw. That's

695
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: a good throw. Trabisky rolled to his right, didn't really

696
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: need to gets it out and gets down by the

697
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: eighteen yard passed to uh to Tyler. Vaughan's on the run.

698
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Looked very controlled, very sharp as a passer there with

699
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: his feet not exactly set. Yeah, Yeah, that was nice. Yeah,

700
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: that's that's a nice throw. And that had a little

701
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: humming on it too. I mean, that was a well

702
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: thrown you know, good ball, great spiral, hits him right

703
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: in the numbers. Boom. Yeah, that's what you want to see.

704
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: So if we get more promising than it has been,

705
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: now we've got to pick it in there. Uh, he's

706
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: gonna see him do something similar running back to his

707
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: left and we get a bunch here down on the

708
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: bottom side, and he sends a little sefki out of

709
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: that bunch in the motion to the fromward of the wing,

710
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: and then they get running back out and then they

711
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: get a little inside flip again, this time the old

712
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 1: chefsky and that goes nowhere. The Liman loved that when

713
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: they just ate that up. It was wanda. But you

714
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: do you do you start to set that, use that

715
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: as a setup play at some point. You put it

716
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: on tape early and then you start using that motion

717
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: and you slide somebody out behind the backside behind it

718
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: because everybody kind of flows to that, and it's a

719
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: lot of flowing is a great word, you know, with

720
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: the way they use this motion and then the opposite

721
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: direction off of it. But a real smooth you know,

722
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: the whole team moving is one they'll they'll start to

723
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: get better at that stuff. Yeah, pick it again. That

724
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: takes a Vaughan comes in motion from left to right

725
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: as we look here, pick it takes the snap looks

726
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: gets it out. Nice nice catch here by Tyler. Vaughan's yeah, yeah,

727
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: not the best row and trimscu was under a little

728
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: bit of heat those right side. But it was a

729
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: nice throw. I mean in terms of velocity, velocity was

730
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: really yeah and uh not really nice catch going down,

731
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: snag that off. That's when you throw over the middle,

732
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: that's not going to be intercepted. Right. That's a good point.

733
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: And you don't want to you don't want to sail that.

734
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: The worst thing you wanna do and over the middle

735
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: is throw high. Yeah, we're gonna take a break. He

736
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're bringing you

738
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: our live coverage here from Steelers training camp practice at

739
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: Same Pensit College, the only station and the only show

740
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: where you can get this kind of coverage. We're gonna

741
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back with more right after this.

742
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

743
00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome

744
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: back on Dale Only here with Matt Williamson. This is

745
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: to drive on Steelers Nation Radio, the only show bringing

746
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: you live updates from training camp. Not just updates, but

747
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: live slate. I played from the coverage, tell me exactly

748
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: what's going on, and no doubt about it. That's the

749
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: receivers over here working on their feet for the sidelines.

750
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: We got the kicking. Actually somebody kicking field goals for

751
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time. And uh, that's

752
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: the that's the scene, boss stepping up there. This is

753
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: about a forty two yard or here. This is no

754
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: gimme and uh thest that gold push? Are these a

755
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: little shorter than an NFL goal push? I don't know

756
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,439
Speaker 1: they It's funny you bring that up because I looked

757
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: at him like they kind of look different than they

758
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: do you know that during an NFL game? And are

759
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: they I don't have any idea. I think they are

760
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: a little shorter. That's maybe just what st Vincent uses.

761
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: And why would you bring new ones? You know? Yeah,

762
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: now the cup, but the college ones are Are they wider?

763
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: Are they tighter? Yeah? I don't know. I don't think

764
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: they're the same. But I don't think they're the same. Yeah,

765
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: they may bring in some. I don't think there is

766
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: high but that doesn't really matter. Ye shouldn't they have

767
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: laser beams at the top of those that just go

768
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: up into space sharks with freaking laser beams on the top,

769
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: so that they extend forever and you get just see

770
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: if that would make things a lot easier and they

771
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: could do that. I was actually talking to my talking

772
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: to my neighbor who works for a company that does

773
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: the chipping, does the the some of the stuff with

774
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: tracking players and things of that nature, trackers. The technology

775
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: is available, they could put it. They could put chips

776
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: in balls. No, I can't believe it. What problem would

777
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: be keeping the weight differential? Similar? Like, how do you

778
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: like can you put h I'm sure they put one

779
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: in each tip, Like you can put it at each

780
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: tip because you want to know if you broke the

781
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: plane or not. But does that throw the spin of

782
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: the ball off and things of that nature. I wonder

783
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: if you need like four of them, you know, one

784
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: in each tip, one in the high point in the

785
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: middle of the ball on each side kind of balance

786
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: each other, not just the tip and get in trouble

787
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: that way, um, because what if the meat of the

788
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: ball goes over first and not you know the edge,

789
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, Like you don't know what part's

790
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: going to cross the goal one. That's where those lasers

791
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: coming in. But you can't tell what's Like the lasers

792
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: the top of goal posts though, like they should just

793
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: extend forever. You you flip a switch and they shoot

794
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: up into the hemisphere here taking players out? Is there?

795
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: You can do that too, right? Fans are bugging out, um, yes,

796
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: and Steelers doing a little field goal kicking here and

797
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: now they're going getting back here to stretch it back

798
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: beyond almost fifty yards there seven here at these ones.

799
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: So at this point we're done with the acclamation period

800
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: we've been in pads. Is there a limit how long

801
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: they can practice today? You know now at their full

802
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: length practice, there's still some limitations for the NFL p

803
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: A that how long they can be on the field

804
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: is a two hour? Yeah? That one he kicked up

805
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: over top of the guy on top of the uh

806
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: the film guy up on the boom on top almost

807
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: caught that one. That's a little scary if you're him though.

808
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I hate being up I'll never go up there again.

809
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: When I was trying to make my bones in this business,

810
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: I was up there a few times. Hey, Matt, film practice,

811
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm afraid heights. I hated being up there. The

812
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: coaches don't care that there's lightning going on. You're the

813
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: only right and I stink at the camera work. Anyways.

814
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: I know I'm just gonna be yelled at when I

815
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: get bound on the ground because it's not a good

816
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: enough shot. I did a lot of that too, especially

817
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: in Duquesne. But you know, just as a volunteer. They

818
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: didn't have a boom, so that wasn't as bad. But

819
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: I went up in the boom a couple of times

820
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: a pit until I really made it clear after I've

821
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: been there a while that this really isn't for me, folks.

822
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: And it didn't break my heart whenever I filmed the

823
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: practice poorly and got yelled at because then they didn't

824
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 1: send me back up. But it sways the whole time.

825
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: It's pouring or it's a hundred degrees and there's no shade.

826
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: There's no shade. You know, maybe you remember to take

827
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: a water with you, which you kill in five minutes,

828
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: and then no one sends you up another one on. Well,

829
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: they used to have to it. I'm sure you did

830
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: this when when you were doing it, down s tapes

831
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: down in the bag as you fill them up. Well,

832
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: now that I'm sure it's you're just probably remotely sending

833
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: it somewhere else so you don't worry about that. So

834
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: you're just filming, all filming, But you don't know when

835
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: you run. How do you know when you run out

836
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: of tape? I don't know. Again, I wasn't good at it. Yeah,

837
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I can remember those bags. Maybe they'd be sending those

838
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: bags down in full of tapes and on a rope um.

839
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 1: And even in my day, like again this was twenty

840
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, we had cell phones, but it wasn't

841
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: like I could just text the video guy or the

842
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: head coach. I mean they're all busy, like, don't you

843
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: realize there's a lightning storm going on and I'm the

844
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: only one up here and nobody cares, you know, nobody,

845
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: nobody cares until you get struck. And then it's like

846
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: what happened to Williamson? Yeah, we find someone just like

847
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: let everybody runs for they all run for the get right,

848
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: No one let you down stuck up there. I hated

849
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: it up there, and it's not very big. The platform

850
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: is very small. Once you put a tripod in a

851
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: camera and there's nowhere to go, right. Yeah. I would

852
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: not thought like that job either. I'm not real super

853
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: fond of heights and there's not m I did that

854
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: one summer at pitt Johnstown. UM. I stayed up and

855
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: it was the Johnstown Flood Center. It was the fifty

856
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 1: year anniversary of the Johnstown Flood or hundred year University

857
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: of the Johnstown Flood. UH. So they had a bunch

858
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: of stuff going on that summer and my roommate UH

859
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: through his then girlfriend now wife, UM got us the

860
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: jobs through somebody that she worked with, UH building stages

861
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: and everything for different concerts and stuff for the show.

862
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: So we had to do the To build the stages,

863
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: you had to do the scaffolding all the way up

864
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: on the stage, and you got paid more money if

865
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: you went to the top of the scaffolding and did

866
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: all that. Interesting. I tried it. I'm like, I'll give

867
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: it a shot, and I get you climb up there

868
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: and you're sitting on the scaffolding and they're handing pieces

869
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: up you know, to you to put on. And I'm like, yeah,

870
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: this isn't for me. I thinks swaying and the wind.

871
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: And I remember we did a bon Jovi shows but

872
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: Points Stadium bon Jovi and skid Rope late and we

873
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: had to put the thing up. But then you had

874
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: to take it down that night because they had a

875
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: football game. There's the next day. I gotta get this

876
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: thing down. And it rained and thunderstorm that night and

877
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: they still had to come down and we were out

878
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: there all night just just the hand and pieces and

879
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: get them off the way. Um, some of those guys

880
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: who I We had guys. You know how they have

881
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: the lights standards across the stage, so we had we

882
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: had the two towers are up. The towers were a

883
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: hundred foot high and to put the light standers on

884
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: or you had to go up and hook them on.

885
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: And then some of the lights were out or they

886
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: had some kind of problem with the lights. One of

887
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: the guys shimmied out there upside down to like switch

888
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: a light bul switch light bulbs and stuff. No, thank you, No,

889
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: the lolly is not doing that one. Yeah. I mean,

890
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: I'd rather work on the deadliest catchboat than do that.

891
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: And I was actually watching Dead List catch. Yeah, but

892
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: as we're talking about embarrassing times, and my uncle is

893
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: kind of like a big brother figure to me growing

894
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: up because my my uh mom's youngest brothers. We weren't

895
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: that far in age. Successful UM contracting company in the

896
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: South Hills now for like forty years, So anytime I

897
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: was short on work, I could always go work for

898
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: Uncle Kat. You know, I need to be dig a

899
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: ditch or some nasty job roof days though, Uh, I

900
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: still get made fun of to this day. Anyone anyone

901
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: that's seen me on a roof, crawling around, never going

902
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: to the edge, carrying up shingles and just dropping them

903
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: off and then like running away, hated it. Hate it.

904
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: You realize you didn't want to do that for a living. Yeah,

905
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: maybe I'll look at this football stuff. What can I

906
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: do where I'm gonna sit on terra firma and and

907
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: not be up high with you know, fifty pounds of

908
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: shingles on my shoulder. Yeah that's no fun. No, not

909
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: my back, not much fun at all. UM football practice

910
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: today it's still going on. Here we go right here,

911
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: we got some seven on seven's going on here. Uh

912
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: we get we get the one on ones over I'm

913
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: not really on him once today because they're not pass well,

914
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna get man coverage here though. Mean, Bush goes

915
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: out wide against the running back and you know that

916
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: Trabiski is looking that way and Bush was running with

917
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: him step for step. I mean it's one of those

918
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: there's a flag down over here. There was some defensive holding.

919
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: I was really keying on Bush because I think it

920
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: was McFarland that went outside the numbers, kind of like

921
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: we were talking about before. When you have a tight

922
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: end outside that far the linebacker follows on, you're getting

923
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: man covered. If Devin Bush has a good year this year,

924
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: what happens with him? M hmm. I mean, I don't

925
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: think we're talking about best linebacker in the year in

926
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: the league, but kind of living up to expectations, you know,

927
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: a hundred tackles and a couple of interceptions and a

928
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: couple of like fills up the step book and rarely

929
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: exposed in a bad way, you know, and makes some

930
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: big plays. Franchising him seems a little unrealistic. I mean,

931
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: he's that a really good year because you still do

932
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: have Jack under contract. But yeah, assuming Jack has a

933
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: good year because you can move on from him still

934
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: too and give that might to Bush. I don't think

935
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: I think they'd love to have that problem where they're

936
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: both making six eight ten million, you know, and have

937
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: to quality every down linebackers, because I don't equate it

938
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: to like Edmonds. You know, like a year ago they

939
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: didn't pick up Edmunds option. He had a fine year.

940
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: You know, he wasn't a bad player, he wasn't a liability,

941
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: and then he didn't get any attention on the open

942
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: market or not enough, and he came back with a

943
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: very reasonable deal. Here's the problem with with the like

944
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't think Bush will still be out there. This

945
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: is where the outside linebacker pay scale kind of throws

946
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: things off for those for those off ball backers. Is

947
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: Bush makes a nice play there because t J. Watts involved, Right,

948
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: So the linebacker franchise tag value is eighteen point seven

949
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: million he can't have, right, right, Like Fred Warner and

950
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: Leonard aren't worth that, you know. I mean those guys

951
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: are making not making like twelve or thirteen million dollars year.

952
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: The top guys is off ball linebackers, right right, right,

953
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: This should almost be a different position. It is a

954
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: different position. I mean they're would I mean t J.

955
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Watt versus Darius Leonard are not at all the same.

956
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: In fact, looking at that, the only position that gets

957
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: more franchise tag value then linebacker is quarterback. What's funny

958
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: is tackle isn't that high because no one ever gets

959
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: on the open market right now. Well, that's the other

960
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: part of me. I have to get on the open

961
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: market to drive the price up of the franchise and

962
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: the offensive line is all considered the same, which is

963
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: just ridiculous, foolish. Yeah, that's sixteen point seven million dollar

964
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 1: sixteen point six six. Maybe change the franchise tag designations.

965
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: Well that's I think what Bud Dupree was getting at

966
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when Steelers tagged him, Like,

967
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: why am I being considered the same as an off

968
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: ball linebacker? Yeah, I'm gonna drush, I'm a defensive defensive

969
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: ends seventeen point eight six For the franchise value linebacker

970
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: because of the t J. Watts and guys like that

971
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: getting paid in recent years has has moved over that.

972
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 1: And there always the case NFL is appealing to Shaun

973
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: Watson this game suspension. There it is not surprising at all,

974
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: not one bit. We'll talk about that when we come

975
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: back some other things. Steelers. They got one more session

976
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: after this. That will be the two minute drill, So

977
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: we'll talk about DeShawn Watson, everything that could happen with

978
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: that will take you through the two minute drill here

979
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: when that happens, once they get back here and once

980
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: we get back on the air. He is Matt Williamson.

981
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: I am Dale Lullett. You're listening to the Drive here

982
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio.