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Speaker 2: The names keep getting more. What the hell is that name?
Speaker 2: And uh which you're not supposed to comment on. I
Speaker 2: guess Key and Peel they're black so they can make
Speaker 2: these jokes. I guess because it's kind of a cultural thing.
Speaker 2: How long is that bit? I've never heard the whole thing,
Speaker 2: but that is funny. It goes on for some time.
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Speaker 1: Oh Man Patron number one pick in the NFL Draft
Speaker 1: last night, Young cam Ward, quarterback out of Miami.
Speaker 2: And that concludes our football segment. So speaking of college
Speaker 2: cry with laughter. That is really really funny. I'll bet
Speaker 2: when they were writing those I can see them and
Speaker 2: the writers sitting around just dying making up those names.
Speaker 1: And it's two guys doing all those voices. They really
Speaker 1: are gifted comedians, both of them. So we I think
Speaker 1: we played this yesterday. Michael hit me with the clip fourteen.
Speaker 1: This is anti Israel quote unquote protesters at Yale blocking
Speaker 1: Jewish students from going to class.
Speaker 2: You can only we can only go around probably.
Speaker 3: Blocking Jewish students from going to class, telling them, now
Speaker 3: you walk around the way to class in the United
Speaker 3: States of America into twenty twenty five, and these are
Speaker 3: so called progressives.
Speaker 1: That happened yesterday, two days ago. I believe no way, Yes,
Speaker 1: you're kidding me. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's crazy. The
Speaker 1: Yale University has stripped the Schools Students for Justice in
Speaker 1: Palestine chapter of its status recognized student group.
Speaker 2: Yes, I gotta say this, even though I've said it
Speaker 2: one hundred times and it's the most predictable, obvious commentary.
Speaker 2: You shouldn't make money making the most obvious commentary in
Speaker 2: the world, But here it is. If a conservative stopped
Speaker 2: one trans kid from doing anything on a college campus,
Speaker 2: you know, Joe Biden would have given a speech about
Speaker 2: it that night from the overlaps. Correct.
Speaker 1: Yes, AOC would have whipped wept bitter tears. You're not
Speaker 1: letting Jewish kids go to class. It's just unbelievable, all right, right.
Speaker 1: You know one of the best definitions of anti Semitism
Speaker 1: I've come across is that you there and there's a
Speaker 1: like two sides through this. A you hold Jews to
Speaker 1: a different set of standards than everyone else, and or
Speaker 1: you hold everyone else to different standards when they're abusing
Speaker 1: Jews than when they're abusing other people. Yeah, that's true, kids, transgender,
Speaker 1: you know, whomever.
Speaker 2: I don't know what is more troubling. If it's about
Speaker 2: the fact that they're Jewish, or if it's just that
Speaker 2: whole What is that term, the powerful versus the unpowerful? Yeah,
Speaker 2: the victim of pressor Yeah, if it's the because the
Speaker 2: victim pressure thing, that's so troubling because you can just
Speaker 2: to apply it to so many things, and it's just
Speaker 2: a really toxic view of the world.
Speaker 1: Right. You know, there's some pretty good scholarship on the
Speaker 1: particulars change, but it always ends.
Speaker 2: Up in anti Semitism. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The excuse here is we're not anti Semites, we're anti Zionists. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I just thought i'd to point out that, and to
Speaker 1: their credit, and I haven't dug deep into this so far,
Speaker 1: Yale University seems to be doing at least some of
Speaker 1: the right things, saying we're yanking your accreditation, you don't
Speaker 1: get to do anything on campus anymore. So that's that's
Speaker 1: a good step. So moving on to Harvard. A couple
Speaker 1: of notes from Harvard, including one final glimpse into Matt
Speaker 1: Tybee's fabulous and hilarious piece recently about them Harvard's endowment
Speaker 1: fifty plus billion dollars or whatever it is, and their
Speaker 1: financial picture. This is maybe apropos nothing, but I just
Speaker 1: found it very very interesting. A lot of people mentioned
Speaker 1: that their university president makes over a million dollars or
Speaker 1: roughly a million dollars.
Speaker 2: Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: That wow, But in their last disclosure, the highest salaries
Speaker 1: were earned by the Harvard management company who administers their
Speaker 1: gigantic endowment.
Speaker 2: I was about to say, I don't have a real
Speaker 2: handle on what an endowment is or is used or whatever.
Speaker 2: I suppose I should look into that. But I mean,
Speaker 2: if you've got it invested in any way that it's
Speaker 2: earning interest or something, how do you need any money
Speaker 2: from anybody?
Speaker 1: Ever?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Fifty well efty some billion dollars. Well, here's the hilarious part.
Speaker 1: Your your tenth place person at Harvard earns two point two.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Then you go up to three point nine, four point two,
Speaker 1: five point one, five point one, five point nine, six
Speaker 1: point six, seven point six, and your highest paid Harvard
Speaker 1: employee who runs the Uh, what did I just call it?
Speaker 1: The corporation made nine point six million dollars and their endowment,
Speaker 1: which is a big pot of money you invest to
Speaker 1: grow it's that's it, and you can use it for
Speaker 1: whatever you want. They did worse than an index fund.
Speaker 1: If you'd just bought an index fund of the S
Speaker 1: and P five hundred, it would have outperformed the Harvard Corporation.
Speaker 1: And this guy got paid nine point six You take
Speaker 1: the top ten at totals fifty million subsidized dollars spent
Speaker 1: on a team that would have lost to an S
Speaker 1: ANDP index fund.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's funny because I was about to say, well,
Speaker 2: they earned the money if they're investing properly, but you
Speaker 2: just pointed out they're not. Right now, Jack and Wi
Speaker 2: the money because you wouldn't have to be a genius
Speaker 2: to put it in, you know, just follow an index fund.
Speaker 2: Just get a freaking index fund. Yes, no kidding.
Speaker 1: We can either take a break now, or we can
Speaker 1: squeeze some of this in here and have a shorter segment.
Speaker 2: Next.
Speaker 1: Two really interesting pieces of writing. First of all, James Hankins,
Speaker 1: who is a conservative Harvard professor apparently there is one,
Speaker 1: wrote a piece for the Wall Street Journal a conservative
Speaker 1: Harvard professor on how the university can save itself, and
Speaker 1: also in the Wall Street Journal on a different day,
Speaker 1: a long time Ivy League educator wrote a piece entitled
Speaker 1: Harvard is an Islamist outpost.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to squeeze in both of those. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: want to hear that. That's interesting, and they're both really
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 1: The We'll let you decide whether you think the conservative
Speaker 1: professor is right.
Speaker 2: Hey, Hanson, could you post that key and peel thing
Speaker 2: at Armstrong and getty dot com so it's easily findable
Speaker 2: because as flipping funny, You know.
Speaker 1: What's funny is it goes on for quite some time
Speaker 1: and just keeps getting funnier.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is l ol funny. Okay, we
Speaker 2: had a lot of them away. Stay here. Dion Sanders kid,
Speaker 2: and Dion Sanders was featured on sixty Minutes last year,
Speaker 2: so I feel like some of you know who he is,
Speaker 2: famous football player. I didn't realize his kid was. At
Speaker 2: one time it thought to be the the number one
Speaker 2: pick in the entire draft, certainly a first rounder, yeah,
Speaker 2: high friend rounder. And then he didn't go at all.
Speaker 2: Last night is interesting.
Speaker 1: Happens every year. Yeah, it's got to be brutal, but
Speaker 1: you know, you get over at trust. Well, some people
Speaker 1: thought of.
Speaker 2: It in your life. A lot of it was his
Speaker 2: attitude is to brash, and his dad was like the
Speaker 2: brashest of brash human beings who's ever walked the planet.
Speaker 2: So what did you think? I don't know, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: uh So.
Speaker 1: A couple of different think pieces from a couple of
Speaker 1: different people about Harvard that I found really really interesting.
Speaker 1: The first from a conservative Harvard professor by the name
Speaker 1: of James Hankins, and it's it's long, it's interesting, but
Speaker 1: I'll just give you some highlights. The first is somewhat ironic.
Speaker 1: Mister Hankins, who I'm sure is a nice fellow. Probably
Speaker 1: doctor Hankins is h I definitely. I think he's got
Speaker 1: a bit of the well, yes, we have beatings here
Speaker 1: at our office, but only one a day.
Speaker 2: I think he's gotten so used to his.
Speaker 1: Environs he doesn't quite get how strange they are. He
Speaker 1: mentions that the statistic is off, cited that at most
Speaker 1: three percent of Harvard faculty members identify as conservative, and
Speaker 1: he's one of that three percent. He's been there for
Speaker 1: forty years, he says, But if you look at the numbers,
Speaker 1: thirty two percent say they're very liberal and forty five
Speaker 1: percent liberal. That takes us to seventy seven percent and
Speaker 1: twenty percent or so who confess to being moderate by
Speaker 1: the standards of Harvard.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm guessing in your mind ninety seven percent, and
Speaker 2: I'm guessing your moderate's a little different than my moderate. Well, right.
Speaker 1: And his point is a lot of the so called
Speaker 1: liberals come up to him and say, please, don't tell
Speaker 1: anyone I said this, and then they unload their disgust.
Speaker 1: The latest activist outrages his point being there a lot
Speaker 1: more reasonable people visa VI, the real radical progressive left,
Speaker 1: the student you know, jackasses.
Speaker 2: But what's funny is he's trying to.
Speaker 1: Explain that it's not as radical left as you think.
Speaker 1: And I came away thinking, you people are insanely left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ain't working on me.
Speaker 1: What was that first number of the most the biggest
Speaker 1: number is thirty two percent are very liberal and and
Speaker 1: again that's their definition of very liberal. Would make your
Speaker 1: head spin. Yeah, they think Karl Marx was a moderate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and forty percent merely liberal. But yeah, Anyway, his effort
Speaker 1: to say it's not as crazy as you think just
Speaker 1: reminded me of how crazy it is.
Speaker 2: Basically, it's on a couple of university people I know
Speaker 2: who consider themselves moderate liberals, and I never say anything,
Speaker 2: but they are way out there. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 1: And he said most of the scholars are just scholars
Speaker 1: and scientists who want to get on with their work
Speaker 1: and teach the next generation. And he gets into the
Speaker 1: budget cuts and some of the back and forth with
Speaker 1: the Trump administration, which is, you know, it's fine, it's good,
Speaker 1: it's a discussion worth having. He makes the point that
Speaker 1: the current president, Alan Garber, has actually made some really good,
Speaker 1: strong steps. He's trying to rain in the crazies and
Speaker 1: restore some semblance of the free exercise of speech and
Speaker 1: intellectual honesty and openness.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. What universities.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like it's like having to remind the
Speaker 1: hospital you remember you're supposed to treat people's medical problems here.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that you have to remind them
Speaker 1: of that is a measure of how insane it is.
Speaker 1: But he says, yeah, the new guy's actually doing some
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah, maybe he is, maybe he isn't. But
Speaker 1: at last point I found kind of interesting. And he says,
Speaker 1: the one inescapable truth and higher education is that he
Speaker 1: who pays the piper calls the tune and he and
Speaker 1: he goes into Harvard's finances, which are really interesting but
Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you with but he finishes
Speaker 1: this way, there are very good reasons for Harvard or
Speaker 1: other universities to reduce our financial dependence on the federal government. Instead,
Speaker 1: we should strengthen ties with loyal alumni you know, and
Speaker 1: love Harvard blah blah blah, because every administration that comes
Speaker 1: in is going to tell you, now, you got to
Speaker 1: do this, got to do that. And he says a
Speaker 1: lot of the DEI crap pressures to regulate speech, trigger warnings,
Speaker 1: pronouns came through political pressure as opposed to internal pressure.
Speaker 2: Right, So you know to what extent that's true, I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you.
Speaker 1: But anyway, they are bloated and progressive and radicals and lunatics.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I wish him luck in his future endeavors.
Speaker 1: But good Lord, ninety seven to three, that's not reassuring.
Speaker 1: Then this from Ruth Weiss or Wissa. She's the author
Speaker 1: of a memoir about Judaism. Really interesting. I read a
Speaker 1: little bit about it. But her piece is entitled Harvard
Speaker 1: is an Islamist outpost. For decades, it nurtured resentful leftists
Speaker 1: and anti Semitism, united them in a common cause. And
Speaker 1: she compares and contrasts in two thousand and one in
Speaker 1: the wake of nine to eleven. And oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: she taught at Harvard from nineteen ninety three through twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: so she knows of what she speaks. She says, Harvard's
Speaker 1: leaders don't yet understand the danger that the culture of
Speaker 1: the university poses to the country, or why it required intervention.
Speaker 1: On September eleventh, the Islamist Al Kaida attacked the US
Speaker 1: in a suicide mission. You remember on October seventh, twenty
Speaker 1: three Hamas Islamists exploited Israel's openness by invading the country,
Speaker 1: massacring civilians and kidnapping others. Jihadis used these new forms
Speaker 1: of warfare against those they couldn't conquered by force. What
Speaker 1: concerns us here is their capture of elite American schools,
Speaker 1: as an outpost. As outposts, Harvard became directly implicated on
Speaker 1: October eighth when the Undergraduate Palestine Solidarity Committee issued a
Speaker 1: statement endorsed by more than thirty student groups.
Speaker 2: You remember this, that asserted.
Speaker 1: That quote the Israeli regime was entirely responsible for all
Speaker 1: unfolding violence.
Speaker 2: Thirty student groups got together and signed that.
Speaker 1: Students for Justice in Palestine declared October twelfth a day
Speaker 1: of resistance and had a toolkit ready for the encampments
Speaker 1: and demonstrations.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: They praised the unity into fought to the resistance.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: In two thousand and one, there were zero such support
Speaker 1: groups for Islamists at Harvard, not a one. And then
Speaker 1: she gets into the enormous amount of money that Harvard
Speaker 1: gets from Cutter and other Islamist countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember learning that right after October seventh around
Speaker 2: Princeton and a couple of other universities. You know, Qatar
Speaker 2: gives so much money to these universities, and of course
Speaker 2: you get something for your money.
Speaker 1: She goes into By the nineteen nineties, black campus groups
Speaker 1: were hosting Afrocentric and Nation of Islam speakers who agitating
Speaker 1: against whites and Jews. In ninety two, Professor Henry Louis
Speaker 1: Gates Junior warrened, this is anti Semitism from the top down,
Speaker 1: engineered and promoted by leaders who affect to be speaking
Speaker 1: for larger resentments. And she goes into a fair amount
Speaker 1: of detail of the history of it. And she's been
Speaker 1: warning for years and years about the anti Israeli propaganda
Speaker 1: propagated by a comprehensive program in the Center for Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern Studies, and how the Center for Middle Eastern Studies
Speaker 1: became the center for anti Jewish studies and anti Israeli studies.
Speaker 1: And it's gone further and further down that road. Progressivism
Speaker 1: is now anti Israel and anti jew And one of
Speaker 1: the hottest, richest hotbeds of progressivism is Harvard University. Whether
Speaker 1: that diseased institution can be cured or if it just
Speaker 1: needs to be cut out, and you can say that
Speaker 1: about the entire university system is not clear to me.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to be exciting or hyperbolic. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's diseased. Much more to come hope you can hang her.
Speaker 2: Out Armstrong and Getty I had a breakthrough yesterday on
Speaker 2: this song, I've been trying to play on the piano.
Speaker 2: It was driving me crazy or I just couldn't figure
Speaker 2: out how to make it work. Did you consider giving up?
Speaker 2: Actually I did not. I was to the point of
Speaker 2: like I was gonna, I was gonna talk to my
Speaker 2: son's band teacher the next time I saw him and say,
Speaker 2: why can't I figure this out? Like what am I
Speaker 2: getting wrong about? You know where the eighth notes come
Speaker 2: in versus the baseline or whatever? And anyway, smile clicked
Speaker 2: in my head. And it's one of the things I
Speaker 2: really like, a way about the way the human brain works,
Speaker 2: you know, like when you don't understand something, and there's
Speaker 2: all kinds of examples, math problems, or how to fix something.
Speaker 2: I've had that happen before too, like where I got
Speaker 2: to try to fix my son's dirt bike or something
Speaker 2: like that, and I just can't and then all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, like you work on it in the back
Speaker 2: of your mind while you're asleep or whatever, and the
Speaker 2: answer comes to you. I'm a big fan of stopping
Speaker 2: thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, I do that a lot too.
Speaker 2: It's funny how people just intuitively figured out figure out that. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna not think about this, and then like this
Speaker 2: afternoon at three o'clock, it's gonna pop into my head. Oh,
Speaker 2: I know what I gotta do. I gotta take that
Speaker 2: bolt off first to be able to get the tire
Speaker 2: out of there. And it's just it's interesting the way
Speaker 2: the human brain.
Speaker 1: Works like that, which is yet another argument for A
Speaker 1: getting enough sleep and b giving yourself time to daydream.
Speaker 1: Don't be taking in input from your phone all day long,
Speaker 1: all the time. That's not the way brains are supposed
Speaker 1: to work.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Something I could not figure out musically like was
Speaker 2: just impossible to me, then all of a sudden was
Speaker 2: completely easy, impossible. Click. Yeah, it's wild. So we talked
Speaker 2: about this yesterday. I don't want to redo the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I think it was our four if you want to
Speaker 2: find the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. I usually
Speaker 2: think this stuff is crap. That's one of the reasons
Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated by it. It's this renowned psychologist apparently
Speaker 2: who has studied how many was It's a ton of
Speaker 2: marriages that worked out or didn't work out, and then
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, like, what are the main things
Speaker 2: that cause marriages to fall apart, sort of the biggest
Speaker 2: studies of failed marriages it's ever been done anyway, Again,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do the whole thing, but the
Speaker 2: number one thing that you can't overcome is contempt, which
Speaker 2: is something Joe has been saying for years, by the way,
Speaker 2: but it is a kiss of death and in any relationship.
Speaker 2: And you don't even need to make this a marriage.
Speaker 2: It could be a work relationship, or you and your
Speaker 2: siblings or whatever. I suppose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't think they're worth your respect and effort,
Speaker 1: then you're not going to solve it.
Speaker 2: Ever, the reason it probably applies more to marriages and
Speaker 2: all those other situations work relationships, siblings or whatever. You
Speaker 2: probably just cut them off at the point you have
Speaker 2: contempt for them or they have contempt for you. The
Speaker 2: relationships just split. But obviously with a marriage that's a
Speaker 2: different thing. And they said they could, This particular person
Speaker 2: said they can figure it out from your things you
Speaker 2: do with your face, which I'd never heard this one before.
Speaker 2: One sided mouth rays the subtle smirk of superiority is
Speaker 2: the number one red flag for the divorce. According to
Speaker 2: this psychologist who had watched lots of videos. Do you
Speaker 2: think that's the thing you usually do if you have
Speaker 2: contempt for some buddy, one side of your mouth goes up.
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm trying to do it. I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I will bow to the expertise of this person.
Speaker 2: It's like gas. They have gas. Yeah, Michael, you do
Speaker 2: it for me, Michael, raise one side of your mouth. There.
Speaker 2: It's kind of this getting now that's more length. Wait
Speaker 2: what yeah? Not? I think you have gas? What an idiot?
Speaker 2: Think about? You're an idiot. I can't stand you. You're
Speaker 2: trying to come up with contempt. Yeah, got, it's beyond
Speaker 2: the thing with contempt is and I've I'm trying to think,
Speaker 2: who have I been contemptuous? Contemptuous of? You could probably
Speaker 2: tell me you would know better than me. Maybe who
Speaker 2: do you think? You don't say their name on the air,
Speaker 2: But Jeese Nick a time right there? Current. I was
Speaker 2: gonna go with the current coworker. Oh funny. But once
Speaker 2: you're into contempt territory, there's like they have like there's
Speaker 2: practically no redeeming thing they can say or do.
Speaker 1: It's a one in fifty that they work their way
Speaker 1: back unless you realize I missed something completely about their character.
Speaker 2: They're dead to you. Yeah, that's an interesting one. Four
Speaker 2: nasty little habits, criticism, contempt, defensiveness, and stonewalling. Stonewalling are
Speaker 2: the four horsemen of the apocalypse for dooming relationships. But
Speaker 2: contempt is the truth is a death, that's the one
Speaker 2: that you couldn't come back from. And they're looking for
Speaker 2: the one sided mouth rays of contempt. They could predict
Speaker 2: divorce with ninety four percent accuracy based on whether or
Speaker 2: not they observed contempt between either one of the people.
Speaker 2: If it's observable contempt, yeah, it's probably doomed. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: can't even hide it. The part that I wanted to
Speaker 2: bring up because we got so many texts about this,
Speaker 2: was them also mentioning that people tend to have the
Speaker 2: same three arguments over and over again throughout their marriage.
Speaker 2: You just don't realize it. And once you categorize those,
Speaker 2: like figure out what your three points of disagreement are,
Speaker 2: and then you always put that in there. It's just
Speaker 2: it's just easier to deal with. You just say, oh,
Speaker 2: this is argument number two, where we know we're in
Speaker 2: a stalemate on this one. We know how this one.
Speaker 1: Goes right right, And it's not about the color of
Speaker 1: pain to ord, you know, the lengthification or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's it's that same old right can you give me?
Speaker 2: And we got a bunch of texts about that. Can
Speaker 2: you give me an example of one? Doesn't have to
Speaker 2: be from your own wife? But like, oh, I'm trying
Speaker 2: to picture something like that. I mean, like, would it
Speaker 2: be like it's always over money, so this is just
Speaker 2: another money argument that seems too that doesn't seem like
Speaker 2: what he's talking Seah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have texts, I'd love to
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear the text. I mean I could,
Speaker 1: I could throw out an idea or two, but I
Speaker 1: just you know, you're too care free and heedless of
Speaker 1: the future. Yeah, you're a stick in the mud. And
Speaker 1: it could be over what you're spending on vacation or
Speaker 1: a car, or you know, investing versus saving, or it
Speaker 1: could take one hundred different forms. I'm a little more
Speaker 1: risk averse than you, that's the big one.
Speaker 2: Or you're too strict on the kids, you're too permissive. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that'd be a good one. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, because Judy and I one of
Speaker 1: the reasons our relationship works, I think is that I
Speaker 1: am what's the opposite of risk averse in terms of
Speaker 1: trying things and exploring ideas and risking.
Speaker 2: Money or whatever. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've won, I've lost, I've gotten hit in the face,
Speaker 1: and it's okay. She's much more of a nest builder. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's make sure that you know we don't end up
Speaker 1: getting hit in the face.
Speaker 2: And it's worked for us occasional. It's, uh, there's advantage
Speaker 2: of not being hit in the face.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but you know, if you never want to
Speaker 1: get it hit in the face, it's a metaphor for God. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so nobody's playing hockey here, the hockey game of life.
Speaker 1: You refuse to ever get hit in the.
Speaker 2: Face, you can't play. I I will not put even
Speaker 2: close to a fine point on this. I am a
Speaker 2: single man. I have been married. That's all the background
Speaker 2: you need. And I'm not married, not of my own choosing.
Speaker 2: I have been on the wrong end of contempt and
Speaker 2: it is it is insurmountable because everything you do or
Speaker 2: attempt is contemptible.
Speaker 1: Apparently, even if it's exactly the right thing. We've I
Speaker 1: think We've all had attitudes toward jobs or people, or
Speaker 1: you know, something in our lives that we really if
Speaker 1: you have any insight whatsoever, you realize, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm being completely unfair right now, because I really don't
Speaker 1: like them. You start to you view everything through what's
Speaker 1: the opposite of rose colored glasses, poop colored glasses. Everything
Speaker 1: they do you see through the lens of poop colored glasses.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good because that's that's the situation. I felt
Speaker 2: like I was in everything I did was being viewed
Speaker 2: through s colored glasses.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's tough to uh to uh persevere to surmount.
Speaker 2: That, even something benign. So and then then the other
Speaker 2: part of reading more in this article, which I've always
Speaker 2: thought was interesting. So I think most people who are
Speaker 2: in relationships that don't work can so if the other
Speaker 2: person goes on to have a you know till death
Speaker 2: do them part happy relationship, to think what was it
Speaker 2: about us in our personalities that didn't allow that? Was
Speaker 2: it you or me or both? Or what?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: What things are going on there? I think that's a
Speaker 2: fascinating topic. And then I've also known because I've observed
Speaker 2: this from people, and you've even heard people say this
Speaker 2: throughout my life. As I was, I spent a lot
Speaker 2: of time single, moving through the world, talking to various
Speaker 2: people in various situations. Is not uncommon to leave a marriage,
Speaker 2: get into another marriage, and then realize, oh, this is
Speaker 2: what marriages are like. It wasn't just that person, this
Speaker 2: is what life is like, having a job, raising kids,
Speaker 2: being married. So okay, probably could have just stayed in
Speaker 2: that one. But anyway, many many thousands of dollars in
Speaker 2: broken hearts later, we've learned a lesson, haven't we.
Speaker 1: I think that happens a fair amount. Oh yeah, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. It's funny. I love this topic, but it's
Speaker 1: always a little stressful for me, because every topic deserves
Speaker 1: a real fleshing out. I mean, like every subtopic deserves
Speaker 1: a full discussion full of subtleties and nuances and that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, and and like one of the things
Speaker 1: I believe in very firmly, having been married for a
Speaker 1: very long time, is that you must discipline yourself to
Speaker 1: look for the positives and remind yourself of why you
Speaker 1: love your partner, and that the day to day crap
Speaker 1: and the annoyances that come from interacting with another human being,
Speaker 1: you need to put them in perspective and negatives because
Speaker 1: the way the human mind works, negatives are easier to
Speaker 1: let build up than positives. And I could get into
Speaker 1: the anthropology of it, but who has the time. But
Speaker 1: like having said that, I mean, for instance, I constantly
Speaker 1: remind myself of why lo my wife and what her
Speaker 1: great qualities are, because like me, there are things about
Speaker 1: her that all right, well, you know, it's not like perfect,
Speaker 1: and I don't focus on those. I intentionally don't focus
Speaker 1: on those. But you know, everything's on a continuum, like
Speaker 1: if you from your falling in love and you couldn't
Speaker 1: perceive a fault. If there was, they could be an
Speaker 1: axe murder, but they're so sweet you know too, you know,
Speaker 1: bitter bitter cynicism and all points in between, and like, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe you're a there's a battered spouse situation. The person's
Speaker 1: verbally abusive, emotionally abusive, physically abusive. I don't think for
Speaker 1: a second you should discipline yourself not to emphasize those
Speaker 1: problems and focus on the fact that he brings me
Speaker 1: flowers after he beats me. So that's that's like beyond
Speaker 1: saying into way way way too much. So it's difficult
Speaker 1: to summarize this stuff briefly, know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I think that everything's.
Speaker 1: Got to be in the healthy range of dot dot
Speaker 1: dot whatever you're talking.
Speaker 2: About, right. Yeah, the idea of having the same three
Speaker 2: arguments over and over again sounds tiring. Uh yes, that's why.
Speaker 1: But the argument's put on different clothes each time, and
Speaker 1: you think it's a new argument.
Speaker 2: But it's not. That's the advantage of being able to identify, Oh,
Speaker 2: this is old argument too. Yeah, let's not waste her
Speaker 2: time going and circles on this again. You know, I'm
Speaker 2: so intrigued by this.
Speaker 1: I'm going to my wife and I bicker very very
Speaker 1: rarely these days actually, for like our whole relationship, which
Speaker 1: is nice. But when we do, I will have to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: what is the what is what is the form of this?
Speaker 1: What is the thirty thousand foot thing here?
Speaker 2: That's that's really intriguing. Oh and I mentioned this a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. I thought it was really great
Speaker 2: that Michelle Obama came out and talked about you know,
Speaker 2: a good peer of years there where she didn't like
Speaker 2: Brock very much and wasn't digging their marriage because yeah,
Speaker 2: it said to the whole raising kids, working, making your
Speaker 2: way through life. It's hard. But whatever situation you're in now,
Speaker 2: it's not way it's going to be in a year,
Speaker 2: five years, or ten years.
Speaker 1: Right there is if you are in a marriage, and
Speaker 1: it's difficult to picture a happier marriage than mine, honestly,
Speaker 1: And I'm not bragging or anything. I'm incredibly blessed, but
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we had the grinded out years, we had
Speaker 1: the gritted teeth.
Speaker 2: I can't believe she's saying that cramp again period of
Speaker 2: our marriage course. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, but I will tell you this a final note,
Speaker 1: in a positive note, as a guy who's been married
Speaker 1: for a long time, when you get to the stage
Speaker 1: we're in right now, it's amazing in ways I never anticipate.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I got a number of friends who are in
Speaker 2: that situation too, and uh yeah, good thing they made
Speaker 2: it last. Anyway, Any thoughts in that text line four
Speaker 2: one FTC.
Speaker 4: I think the Democrats are trying to appear more more manly.
Speaker 4: Just a thought, but they may want to consider first
Speaker 4: getting rid of their man persons. And they're they're organic broccoli, dark, woke,
Speaker 4: light woke, mellow yellow woke, it's still woke. And uh
Speaker 4: and and that's the Democrats problem day.
Speaker 2: I'm not exactly sure what old John Kennedy was talking
Speaker 2: about there, but charming as usual.
Speaker 1: It is going to be kind of fun to witness
Speaker 1: the out with the old in with the new blood
Speaker 1: path in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 2: Which direction you think it's going to go, I'm not
Speaker 2: certain yet which direction is going.
Speaker 1: Well, it can't go towards the old people for long.
Speaker 1: They will die because they are very very old. True,
Speaker 1: So there will be a turnover.
Speaker 2: Like I said last week, I think they need to
Speaker 2: do them a govern They need to go full progressive,
Speaker 2: get just stomped, and then that'll take care of that
Speaker 2: and then you can become regular Democratic Party again. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they needed to have Bernie be their nominee. It should
Speaker 2: have happened a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Uh huh. You need the shot of moderate penicillin to
Speaker 1: get rid of the AOC gonorrhea in the party.
Speaker 2: If I might wax metaphorical. Wow, So I thought this
Speaker 2: was interesting.
Speaker 1: The headline was DeSantis has a solution to Florida's labor
Speaker 1: shortage teenagers and Florida, like several other States is pushing
Speaker 1: to soften child labor laws. It says to help businesses
Speaker 1: struggling to fill jobs and shifts.
Speaker 2: Don't get me start going through a bunch of well,
Speaker 2: that's I intend to get you started.
Speaker 1: They go through Florida and Ohio and gosh, a handful
Speaker 1: of other states are name checked that are all saying
Speaker 1: the same thing. Hey, we've got a little far in
Speaker 1: not letting kids get jobs. Oh my god, whether it's
Speaker 1: liability or various laws. The idea that you can't get
Speaker 1: any kind of job until you're sixteen or seventeen, depending
Speaker 1: on where you live in what kind of job is nuts.
Speaker 1: And it also bothers me as a parent because, like
Speaker 1: I keep looking back, like trying to parent my teenagers,
Speaker 1: I look back on my dad doing it. At the
Speaker 1: same time, it's like I had a job.
Speaker 2: I was going to a job every single day all
Speaker 2: summer long, or on the weekends or whatever. My kids
Speaker 2: can't do that. They both want to, by the way,
Speaker 2: both my thirteen year old fifteen year old desperately want
Speaker 2: to work. They're always wondering how old do you have
Speaker 2: to be to work there? How old do you have
Speaker 2: to be to work there? It's ridiculous that they can't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good luck in cal Unicornia. That's going to be the
Speaker 2: last state to come along. But yeah, I mean against this.
Speaker 2: Who's against their teenagers having a job?
Speaker 1: Progressives and do gooders because they think they should be
Speaker 1: studying for college because college is the only thing that matters.
Speaker 1: If you don't go to college, you're a miserable failure.
Speaker 1: The trades are a humiliation working blue collars. Good lord,
Speaker 1: I'd rather my kid was dead than wear a blue collar.
Speaker 1: Those people, Barack Obama in his progeny, gotta hate that.
Speaker 1: Let the kids work. Don't have them like overworked in
Speaker 1: a meat packing plant.
Speaker 2: But let them get a damn job. It's good for them.
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