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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday, April sixth.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jay Skeets rolling this morning with my top shot

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: Fun show here today got the updown report, including as promised,

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Speaker 2: specifically JD's review of Godzilla versus KNG. I know Trey

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Speaker 2: watched it as well. I sort of havel asked watched it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get to that. We'll touch on a number

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Speaker 2: of last night's games, but first we got another Weggie Baby, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Edgie thirty six. It was the King's Wolves game, and

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Speaker 2: it's a beauty because the Minnesota broadcasts team of Dave

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Speaker 2: Ben's and Jim Peterson on the call and given one

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Speaker 2: a hell of a no dunk. Shout out, let's watch

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Speaker 2: the weggie.

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Speaker 5: He's willing and we got I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 3: Somebody contact. No dunks, no longer the starters.

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Speaker 2: I loved everything about it, like pointing out how told

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Speaker 2: the wedgie was. Yeah, they're excited, you know, the perfect

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Speaker 2: clarifying not the starters anymore. They haven't been for a while. Actually, no,

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Speaker 2: they're no ducks and they're still tracking the wages.

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Speaker 2: Wheregietracker dot comments updated show at the deep Bens and

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Speaker 2: Jim Peterson. Great stuff there, thirty six Ley looking good.

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Speaker 2: The pieces, you know, clicks back up every time we.

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Speaker 3: Get one of these. Yeah, I mean look at the

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Speaker 5: We're in the sixties for so long, but that did

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Speaker 5: and yeah again different different wedgie. Great shout out. That

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Speaker 1: That's one of our biggest obstacles.

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Speaker 4: That's letting people we'll know that we have changed names

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Speaker 4: So yeah, not only an incredible wedgie and incredible plug, that's.

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Speaker 3: the NBA games.

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Speaker 2: I saw it was like they were up big early, right.

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Speaker 4: Torrian Prince? Perhaps, wow, Quincy Ac Perhaps.

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Speaker 2: Here, I was the Baylor Bears were like in Illinois

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Speaker 2: NBA games. We'll start with the Nets losing James Harden,

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Speaker 4: And that's exactly what it was last night. Amazing stuff

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Speaker 4: I think to have one of these games with James

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Speaker 1: Kyrie was awesome last night.

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Speaker 4: The story of the night, on the night when there

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Speaker 3: Think, yeah, you know what that reminded me of a

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Speaker 2: of this game? Your poor Necks so close, so close.

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Speaker 3: At the end. Yes, it wasn't that far off that

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Speaker 3: It would be great.

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Speaker 5: But Kyrie to me a couple of times too on

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Speaker 5: But when Kyrie is in that moved and in that groove,

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Speaker 5: a perfect night there for him and for the next Yeah,

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Speaker 5: No way, no way. I was just because yeah, first

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Speaker 7: Look, there is contact, there is contact there, but Nedo

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Speaker 3: The referee instead, yeah, yeah, the referees.

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Speaker 5: harle Netto. But the Raptors actually, really the credit should

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that was the right call.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: But instead the Raptors just played that well and then

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Speaker 3: But no one really happy with the last man.

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Speaker 3: So good job. Because the Raptors were down. They're down nineteen.

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Speaker 5: Gary Trenny's he has been good since coming over.

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Speaker 3: The Raptors fans are they're a loving tread.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people love Norm and he was, as we

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Speaker 3: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: They trailed them overall percentage points, but we still have

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Speaker 3: So this is this is.

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Speaker 2: Great good win for the Raps to sort of get

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Speaker 4: At the road to the Graveyard match continues. I saw

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Speaker 4: That's fine, full caps back until they try to beat

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Speaker 4: But I was completely fine with it because the fourth

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Speaker 4: much like the referees, I was good on this one.

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Speaker 1: I was happy to see this game over.

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Speaker 4: We don't need to go another five minutes to see

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Speaker 4: A couple of Raptors start centers from earlier this season,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we'll see all right. Next game. Luca thirty

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Speaker 2: Mavericks beat the NBA leading Utah Jazz one to eleven,

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Speaker 5: Well, you mentioned it there. I think this one does

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Speaker 5: one of those nights where all of a sudden, their

439
00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,880
Speaker 5: offense just you know, someone didn't bail them out there.

440
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,160
Speaker 5: And on the other end, the Mavericks just got red

441
00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,960
Speaker 5: hot and Luca didn't have a huge line, but he

442
00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 5: seemed to hit big shots. And because this was I

443
00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,120
Speaker 5: think eighteen points after three quarters, you knew the Jazz

444
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,520
Speaker 5: were going to make something of a run. But then

445
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 5: Luca kind of held them off, so he was great again,

446
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 5: big win, and this is their fifth straight now for Dallas,

447
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,159
Speaker 5: so they keep on just sort of surprising a little bit.

448
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,840
Speaker 5: I just don't quite know what to make of them

449
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,360
Speaker 5: again without pauzingis there. Last night, the Jazz certainly were

450
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 5: the favorite, but it was a fairly convincing victory in

451
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Speaker 5: the end. I mean this was a big one, really,

452
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Speaker 5: I mean, no one's sort of blown out the Jazz,

453
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 5: and they had the Utah had their fewest points after

454
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Speaker 5: three quarters this season as well, so they just couldn't

455
00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,640
Speaker 5: quite get it go and made a bit of a run,

456
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,639
Speaker 5: but Dallas held firm. So when you see Luca doing that,

457
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 5: it's just he is capable of just doing so many

458
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Speaker 5: incredible things like guys like Jane hard and have done

459
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,920
Speaker 5: there in Houston. You know, it almost doesn't matter who

460
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,320
Speaker 5: those other guys are while he's out there, he's in

461
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 5: control of the game. His team is just so much better.

462
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 5: So good win here for the Mavericks and just one

463
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 5: for the for the Jazz. But they they can have.

464
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Speaker 3: A bad game.

465
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Speaker 5: I think it's okay that this is their first one

466
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 5: almost all season where they've had that bad a shooting night.

467
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Speaker 2: It's fun to watch this race for the sixth seed

468
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,719
Speaker 2: in the West too, Trey, because the MAVs are still

469
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,680
Speaker 2: like they're still in play to just get right into

470
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 2: the playoffs. Do not have to play in this play

471
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Speaker 2: in tournament. Just a reminder, if you're the seventh or

472
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 2: eight seeds, you're going to be playing each other to

473
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Speaker 2: win the right to the seventh seed, and then the

474
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: eighth seed would have to beat the winner of the

475
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Speaker 2: ninth and tenth. But the MAVs with this little win streak,

476
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 2: with the Lakers free falling, missing their guys, you know

477
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 2: they're right on the heels. The MAVs are still the Blazers.

478
00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 2: You know it's there. There are a couple of games back.

479
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 2: It's not a lock, But I don't think it's out

480
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 2: of the realm of possibility that they actually get up

481
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Speaker 2: to whatever fifth or sixth you think it's possible, or

482
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Speaker 2: they sort of destined to be playing in the play

483
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Speaker 2: in game.

484
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Speaker 1: So what do we got? We got?

485
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Speaker 4: The Mavericks are two games back of Portland right now,

486
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: two and a half back of the Lakers at five,

487
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 4: and only three back of the Nuggets at four. That

488
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 4: seems like a bit of a jump to me to

489
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Speaker 4: get three games back, considering the Nuggets have been playing

490
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Speaker 4: pretty well so far in the second half of the season.

491
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Speaker 4: But the Lakers and the Blazers, who knows. With the Lakers,

492
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Speaker 4: it's all about the injuries. They could certainly continue their

493
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Speaker 4: free fall. They haven't looked very good with both Lebron

494
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Speaker 4: and eighty out. The Blazers, they're just a little bit

495
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Speaker 4: hard to figure out. Feels like as soon as they

496
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Speaker 4: start getting something going, somebody has to miss a little

497
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 4: bit of time. We'll see how it turns out. But

498
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 4: Lee mentioned it it's all about the three point shooting

499
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Speaker 4: for the Mavericks. If they're able to shoot as well

500
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Speaker 4: as they were last night, they are a lot tougher

501
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Speaker 4: to beat. Just look at Dorian Finney Smith five of

502
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Speaker 4: twelve from on the night, a career high twenty three points.

503
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 4: He came in knowing that he was going to have

504
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Speaker 4: open shots. Basically he said, I know that Rudy Gobert

505
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 4: was gonna leave me open, so he had the confidence

506
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: to take him knocked him down. Five of five from

507
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Speaker 4: three for Josh Richardson, three for Hardaway, four for Brunton.

508
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 4: Seventeen to three pointers from those four guys. That's great

509
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 4: math for the Mavericks and that's really their special sauce.

510
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 4: And that's why they got JJ Reddick at the deadline

511
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 4: as well. They don't have stoppers or really even scorers

512
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 4: on the wing. They got guys who can really get

513
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 4: hot and make them three point shots. When it comes

514
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 4: to the playoff time. When it comes to the playoff

515
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: push time, and teams are kind of jockeying for position,

516
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 4: Teams are gonna do everything they can to scheme Doncic

517
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 4: and take the ball out of his hands. Other players

518
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 4: are gonna have to hit threes, and they're gonna have

519
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 4: to score points. And that's how the Mavericks do it

520
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 4: is getting hot from three. That's why they have one

521
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: of the greatest offenses in NBA history last year. Haven't

522
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: shot it as well this season, but last night you

523
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 4: see the potential for what the Mads are trying to do.

524
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Speaker 2: Every time I look at a Mavericks box scorer, watch

525
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:42,360
Speaker 2: the game too.

526
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Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson man.

527
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Speaker 2: We talked about him like weeks ago, like could this

528
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Speaker 2: guy be like a Van Vleet type. It's every time

529
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Speaker 2: it feels like, now Lee's got you know, fifteen to

530
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Speaker 2: twenty points, He's hit a couple of threes. You know,

531
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 2: he plays decent amount of minutes coming off the bench.

532
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 2: He is damn good. And I think what Tody's point,

533
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: like all these other guy You're Phinney Smith's and stuff

534
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: like that, they're going to get the looks because the

535
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: game plan is going to be like stop Luca, double Luca,

536
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: get out of his hands, let anybody else beat you.

537
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Speaker 3: They have to hit these shots.

538
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 2: And I think Brunson's been a really, really good player

539
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: this year all season long.

540
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Speaker 5: I agree, and I think he's just such a steady

541
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Speaker 5: hand for them. You know, he can play that point guard,

542
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 5: he can play those minutes when Luca's not on the court,

543
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 5: or he can play with him as well. He's very

544
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 5: versatile like that, but he very rarely makes a bad decision.

545
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 5: He's got a good IQ, he's plays in control, he

546
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 5: can get inside, but he hits that three. He provides

547
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 5: just such a consistency for them, because those guys like

548
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 5: Phinney Smith and Tim Hardaway Junior and even Kleeber, you

549
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 5: still just don't quite know what you're going to get

550
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 5: out of those guys every night. But I feel with

551
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 5: Jalen Brunson, you are going to get a consistent performance

552
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 5: out of him, and just someone who can provide a

553
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,320
Speaker 5: little bit of playmaking, a little bit of scoring, defends well,

554
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 5: does all those little things, but doesn't have the sort

555
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 5: of high highs maybe of a Phinney Smith or a

556
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: Hardaway Junior, but certainly doesn't have those games where it

557
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 5: feels like he just goes oh for six or anything,

558
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 5: and it turns them all over to be their most

559
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: consistent player. And I said, I think it was just

560
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 5: last week. I think he's their third best player. I

561
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 5: mean pausingis by default gets their second best player, but

562
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 5: I think Brunson probably is because he's just a little

563
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 5: bit more reliable than some of the other role players.

564
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: Lee, are you keeping track of our weird bet that

565
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: we have going to?

566
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Speaker 2: By the way, Tim Hardaway or Terry Rozier is scoring

567
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: more the rest of the year bet.

568
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's not a total point, it's a it's

569
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Speaker 5: a game.

570
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: Height, I understand, but are you Are you checking every

571
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: box score? Does Terry have more?

572
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 5: I don't know, No, I mean no, I haven't checked,

573
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: but I'm waiting for one of them to at least

574
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 5: have a forty point game, so then we can start

575
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 5: really getting excited because.

576
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: Maybe it's going to make the bet like have that

577
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: part like baked into it.

578
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 5: Right, Let's say thirty five thirty five?

579
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 3: Good?

580
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 5: That's good because no one, no one really cares if

581
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 5: the winner is like twenty six points. Great bet, guys, all.

582
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, the twenty dollars will at least go

583
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: will only go to if one of our guys get

584
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 2: over thirty five from here on out, and then if

585
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: they both do, it's whoever.

586
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 3: Has the most alright, then yeah, exactly.

587
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: The dumbest bet in the history of NBA podcast going

588
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: right now, the only bet going with Tim Hardaway Junior

589
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 2: and Terry Roziero in it, I can guarantee you that

590
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 2: all right, the other games, I'll fire them off here.

591
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 2: We can just talk about him as little or as

592
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: much as we want. But D'Angelo Russell returned to the

593
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: Wolves line up twenty five points and the Wolves beat

594
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 2: the Kings one sixteen one O six. That was our

595
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: pickup game, Stupid Kings. Darius Garland show the shirtle let's go.

596
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: It's sex Land time, baby. Oh yeah, the Land. Darius

597
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: Garland of sex Land. He was awesome thirty seven. I

598
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 2: gave him woe boy. As the Cavs beat the Spurs.

599
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: Shirt's really dancing.

600
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Speaker 2: You know, he's an extra moving I can't tell which

601
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: one is real.

602
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: Speed when they keep looping that video the new key WHOA.

603
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: Cavs beat the Spurse. Devin Booker scored thirty six. Sons

604
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 2: continue to win their six sixth straight victory. They're still

605
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: in second in the West. They beat the Rockets, and

606
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 2: then Jeremy Grant scored twenty one against his former former

607
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: team as the Pistons dominated the thunder. So I just

608
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: wanted to point on a couple of things from this

609
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: the Suns. I just saw Tim McMahon over a tweet

610
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 2: this this morning. Over the last two months, the Sons

611
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: have the best record in the NBA twenty three and five,

612
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 2: Nets twenty one and six, Jazz twenty and seven, Mads

613
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: nineteen and seven, and Nuggets nineteen and nine. So the

614
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: most wins, I guess going to the Suns. I know

615
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: they played the Rockets last night, but highly recommend you

616
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: go check out even if it's just Booker's highlights from

617
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: this game.

618
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: He just took overly.

619
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Speaker 2: It was a close game and he just made all

620
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: the right plays down the stretch. It is I'm a

621
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 2: huge Booker fan, but it's fun to see him on

622
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: a damn good team that he's put in these positions

623
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: to sort of take over. Because I thought, again, he

624
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: was amazing this one, and he's been incredible over the

625
00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks.

626
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 3: It's great.

627
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 5: This one was way closer than it should have been

628
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: here for the Phoenix Suns, but that's okay because again

629
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 5: we want to see Phoenix in close games. How they

630
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 5: close out, who do they go to? Do they go

631
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 5: to their star or do they go to Chris Paul.

632
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 5: I mean, Chris Paul's obviously a star, but Devin Booker

633
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 5: is the guy who should be taking over.

634
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 3: So this is a sort of win they need.

635
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: They need to feel these on the road as well,

636
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 5: where they're just not playing, they're not cruising along. They

637
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 5: have to have a guy who they can rely on,

638
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 5: and that's where we want to see Devin Booker because

639
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 5: down in the bubble, that's kind of what he was

640
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 5: and he's now. I mean, the Sons are an absolute

641
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 5: lock for the playoffs. They're not going to miss it now,

642
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 5: so they need to get ready for these sorts of

643
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 5: moments because they could find themselves up against like the

644
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 5: Mavericks or the Blazers in the first round. Now, the

645
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 5: Suns could obviously very well have home court advantage well,

646
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 5: but you're going up against a couple of guys who

647
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 5: do have some playoff victories and some clutch moments, so

648
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 5: they're going to have to be ready for that. So

649
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 5: I'm very happy to see Devin book At stepping up

650
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 5: because Chris Paul has been great, but Devin Booker, of course,

651
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 5: is the future of this franchise.

652
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: Whoever the Son's play in the first round, Trey, I

653
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: feel like it's going to be the best series from

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Speaker 2: the first round, at least in the West. Like if

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Speaker 2: it's Suns, MAVs, Sons, Blazers, like, I think that will

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Speaker 2: be a blood bet. I think that will be a

657
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Speaker 2: long series and probably a very entertaining series. Fab But yeah,

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Speaker 2: when do you think either about Phoenix and their run

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Speaker 2: here or any of those other games that I sort

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Speaker 2: of took us through.

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Speaker 4: It'd be interesting to see what actually goes down in

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00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: the jockeying position of the season, because if you're looking

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Speaker 4: at the top four teams in the Western Conference right now, Jazz, Suns, Clippers, Nuggets,

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Speaker 4: despite the fact that they've been one of the best

665
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Speaker 4: teams in the league, you're probably gunning for the Suns.

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Speaker 4: I think just because they haven't been there. You know,

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Speaker 4: you want to see all these young players they've got

668
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Speaker 4: in the hot house in the playoffs and how they

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Speaker 4: respond to some tough stuff. Like I mean, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: would the Blazers be favored over the Suns just if

671
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Speaker 4: Lillard comes into the series averaging thirty a game with

672
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Speaker 4: tenn assists. Who knows the team that people are going

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Speaker 4: to be picking on is the Suns just because it's

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Speaker 4: their first postseason experience. You know, they are getting to

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Speaker 4: the playoffs is a huge accomplishment for Phoenix. So I

676
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Speaker 4: don't know, they've been really good. They do it on

677
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: both sides of the ball. A great game for DeAndre

678
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: Ayton last night. They at least have a big guy

679
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Speaker 4: who is a solid presence at the rim, can play

680
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: a little bit of defense and hit the glass. So

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Speaker 4: they're not going to be an easy out, but it

682
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Speaker 4: is going to be the team that people that the

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Speaker 4: lower seeded teams want to play.

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Speaker 3: I think, I.

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Speaker 2: Think you're right, but I'm glad you slipped it in there.

686
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Speaker 2: This team, the Suns, they're good on both ends. Like

687
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Speaker 2: this is not just like the case of like to

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Speaker 2: even compare them, Let's say the Mavericks of last year,

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Speaker 2: like you said, they were like on fire from you

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Speaker 2: know distance, They had just this unbelievable offense. They won

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Speaker 2: a lot of their games that way. That's not really

692
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Speaker 2: what the Sons are doing lately. Like they're top seven

693
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Speaker 2: right now as of today offensive rating and defensive rating.

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Speaker 2: I think Monty Williams has a case for a coach

695
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Speaker 2: of the year. I think it should be in play.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if he wins it, because people will just think, well,

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Speaker 2: Chris Paul's sort of the coach of the team coming

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Speaker 2: in there, so maybe that hurts him. But anyway, they

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Speaker 2: I get what you guys are saying that people would

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Speaker 2: probably pick them out. It probably picked the Blazers in

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Speaker 2: a first I just I'm not sure that's the case.

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Speaker 3: The more I watch the.

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Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns, the more I'm a believer and people are

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Speaker 2: just gonna go out to the regular season. But it's

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Speaker 2: not like Chris Paul hasn't been in these big series

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Speaker 2: and games. And if he is the true leader, like

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Speaker 2: if you want to see that, that's fine, and the

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Speaker 2: rest of the guys have fallen into order like into

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Speaker 2: plays book are still like their their best player being

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Speaker 2: at the age he is and the potentially has.

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Speaker 3: But I I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just convincing myself. They could beat those teams, I

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Speaker 2: guess what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 3: And they could.

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Speaker 5: But I would pick Dallas and Portland today in a

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Speaker 5: seven game series over them. I just I just would

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Speaker 5: have more faith in the Sure and Dune. But the

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Speaker 5: interesting thing is, let's say the Suns finished second, then

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Speaker 5: you ideally want to finish seventh, but that puts you

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Speaker 5: in the playing tournament. You know, you want to be

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Speaker 5: in sixth for the safety, but then you face you know,

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Speaker 5: potentially or the Nuggets in that first round, So you

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Speaker 5: sort of want to be like, well, I don't really

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Speaker 5: want to have to go through the playing tournament, but

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Speaker 5: then maybe that is a safe path to facing Phoenix.

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Speaker 5: But this is a fair it's fair to be suspicious

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Speaker 5: of the Sun simply because we just haven't seen the

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Speaker 5: team in the West take a leap from no playoffs

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Speaker 5: for years to second and it is hard. It's just

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Speaker 5: so much harder to then convince people that you can

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Speaker 5: do it in the playoffs. Because you mentioned Chris Paul,

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Speaker 5: he's been there, but he's also had some moments where

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Speaker 5: he's kind of blown it in the playoffs as well.

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Speaker 5: So this is just the fascinating series and the season

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Speaker 5: here for Phoenix, and I hope they can go further

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Speaker 5: than just making the playoffs. But I certainly think the

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Speaker 5: sexy upset pick would be whoever they're facing in the

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Speaker 5: first round if the standings finished as they are today.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, well we're going to get to the

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Speaker 2: Updown Report. Got some fun topics there, but first a

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Speaker 2: quick break to hear from our sponsors. Let's jump right

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Speaker 2: to the updown Report. All right, First, one interesting ESPN

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Speaker 2: has parted with NBA analyst Paul Pierce just days after

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Speaker 2: the Celtics legend went live on Instagram with strippers at

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Speaker 2: a poker party. There were some exotic dancers going on

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Speaker 2: behind him while he was at the table. The truth

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Speaker 2: didn't seem too bothered by the news. On social media,

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Speaker 2: He's posted a couple times. The first one was like

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Speaker 2: a four second video of him just laughing on Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: So I guess I'll ask you like this, are you

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Speaker 2: up or down on Pierce being fired for what a

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Speaker 2: lot of people were calling this wild ig sesh tray.

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Speaker 1: I'm up on this. I don't think he should have

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Speaker 1: been fired.

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Speaker 4: The main problem with Paul's party he broadcast it to

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Speaker 4: everybody while working for a major company that's owned by Disney. Yes,

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Speaker 4: nothing illegal, just unseemly for a family corporation. To me,

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Speaker 4: a fine and a suspension would have been enough. Remember

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Speaker 4: j R. Smith, once upon a time got a twenty

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Speaker 4: five thousand dollars fine for tweeting a picture of a

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Speaker 4: butt back in twenty twelve. If Paul Pierce would have

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Speaker 4: just not clicked live, he'd be fine. But let me

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Speaker 4: tell you something, this is gonna be the best thing

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Speaker 4: to happen to Paul Pierce's media career.

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Speaker 3: He's a great player.

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Speaker 1: He's not beloved.

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Speaker 4: Outside of Celtics fans, though, I would say as a

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Speaker 4: media member, undistinguished.

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Speaker 1: I would say probably the best word.

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Speaker 4: When you hear his takes, it's usually people dunking on him,

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Speaker 4: like when he was mad at the Isaiah Thomas tribute video,

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Speaker 4: the night his number was gonna be retired, all the

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Speaker 4: times that he compared himself to Lebron James and said

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Speaker 4: how Lebron was scared of him. But if you're looking

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Speaker 4: on Twitter, if you're getting group chats, if you're getting

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Speaker 4: text messages, you're seeing a lot of what's he doing wrong?

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Speaker 4: Looks like Paul Pierce is having a great time. This

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Speaker 4: guy just wants to party. You see the Friday memes,

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Speaker 4: how did you get fired on your day off? You

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Speaker 4: see his Twitter video like you're saying skeets where he's laughing.

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Speaker 4: A lot of speculation this was on purpose? Who knows

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Speaker 4: about that. At the very least, I feel like he

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Speaker 4: won some fans with this. People are more on his

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Speaker 4: side now you consider the success of like Matt Barnes

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Speaker 4: and Stephen Jackson's podcast. Maybe that's the rap Paul Pierce goes. Now,

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Speaker 4: somebody's going to take a chance on party Paul.

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Speaker 3: Who knows? Who knows if this was on purpose.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people think he just wanted out of

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Speaker 4: his deal, because why would you go live doing this

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Speaker 4: more than once? A fair criticism, but I think Paul

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Speaker 4: Pierce is going to be okay at the end of this.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Lee, what do you think thumbs up or thumbs

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Speaker 2: down on ESPN's decision to part ways with them, fire

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Speaker 2: them however you want to call it.

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Speaker 5: I'm down on that because I agree with what Trey's saying.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it was a fireable offense. A little distasteful, sure,

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Speaker 5: I get that, but more reprimand. And you're saying, how

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Speaker 5: maybe Paul Pierce did this to try to get out

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Speaker 5: of his contract. Well, so I think ESPN maybe we're

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Speaker 5: looking for a reason to fire him. Yes, great, we

801
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Speaker 5: can do this because okay, let's say hypothetically, an ESPN

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Speaker 5: personality gets seen coming out of a strip pard, do

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Speaker 5: they get fired then now as well? I mean, is

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Speaker 5: that any worse if you get seen coming out? I

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00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 5: know Paul Pierce went live, that's what you know, that's

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Speaker 5: what ended for him. But are they saying any association

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00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 5: with strippers or strip bars is a fireable offense? So

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Speaker 5: you know what he did, like, it's his day off,

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Speaker 5: it's his private time, all that. I get it. Just

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Speaker 5: think that they probably took the moral high ground a

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Speaker 5: little too high here as pan as if you know,

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Speaker 5: as if he's doing something that's completely, you know, unforgivable.

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Speaker 5: I think it's more like just like, come on, man,

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Speaker 5: don't do that again. We're going to give suspender for

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Speaker 5: two weeks here and then move on from it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I saw Richard Detsch, the athletic senior sports rad sports

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Speaker 2: media rader, excuse me.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was bang on when he said that.

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Speaker 2: He would have guessed ESPN would have just waited out

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Speaker 2: the news cycle on this one. Right, But the reality

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Speaker 2: is Pierce isn't a different maker on television for them,

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Speaker 2: and the rules for television, different makers are not equal

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Speaker 2: versus others. Right, what he's saying is what you're getting

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00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: to their lead. Yeah, if Paul Pierce's I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe more liked as an analyst, you know, more prominent

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Speaker 2: as an analyst, an NBA analyst, then maybe that's the

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Speaker 2: route they would have taken, like if they really really

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Speaker 2: wanted to keep them. But it feels like they're like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well we'll just let them go and we'll move on

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Speaker 2: and maybe it'll work out for him and it'll work

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Speaker 2: out for us as well. Also, Mattio, I got to

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00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: bring him up because we were talking about this in

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Speaker 2: our group chat when it was popping off there on

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Speaker 2: like what late Friday night, early Saturday morning. I thought

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Speaker 2: matt was right what he said about Pierce going live

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Speaker 2: on Instagram. Mmm.

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Speaker 3: Quoting Mattio.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately in that sweet spot of being drunk enough to

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Speaker 2: think going live with strippers is a good idea, but

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Speaker 2: not so drunk that you can't figure out how to

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Speaker 2: go live. Yeah, that is exactly what was happening there.

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Speaker 2: Just anyway, let's hear from you. I saw you guys

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Speaker 2: going thumbs up and thumbs down. Let us know in

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Speaker 2: the YouTube comments a little bit later if you're catching

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Speaker 2: this all right, next one here Pelican Stars. Iion Williamson,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna drop his first signature sneaker, the Jordan's.

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Speaker 3: Z Code or Z Code up in Canada. Here's a

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Speaker 3: quick look.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we're taking a look at it right now on

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Speaker 2: the stream team for all you podcast listeners. Very colorful shoe,

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Speaker 2: a lot of colors actually on this lee.

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Speaker 3: You gotta start it up or down. On Zion's first

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Speaker 3: signature sneaker.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm fine with it.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: It's a very tough sort of market he's trying to

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Speaker 5: break into because signature shoes. You know, who's got a

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Speaker 5: really noticeable one, obviously Jordan, Kobe, Kyrie, Kevin Durant, I guess.

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Speaker 5: But it's very very hard to sort of get some

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Speaker 5: traction there, I think in that market. So I think

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Speaker 5: that Jordan Brand are hoping he can do it, and

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Speaker 5: this first one will probably be largely forgotten if they

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Speaker 5: are successful, because they'll get new ones, but then you

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Speaker 5: might also remember it as the first one. But it's colorful.

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Speaker 3: It's just.

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Speaker 5: You know, I mean, it's fine, it's fine. It's just

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Speaker 5: like I say, because is he I mean, he's not

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00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 5: a big man, but I wouldn't say he's like a

870
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: guard either. And I think just those sort of shooters

871
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 5: are the guys who tend to be more successful in

872
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 5: selling shoes, in moving shoes, you know, big guys who dunk.

873
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 5: Just from what I remember, you know Shaq and Dwight,

874
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 5: those guys tend to not be able to move as

875
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 5: many shoes as as a sort of more guard swing

876
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: player position. So it's gonna be very tough for them,

877
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 5: I think, to get him into this field, because it's

878
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 5: such an impossible market to break into.

879
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: Trey, you're the sole man.

880
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: Here are your thumbs upper, thumbs down on these what

881
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: are they called the Jordan's.

882
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: Z codes, the Z code, the Z code.

883
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: I wonder if that will catch on. I'm actually with

884
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: Jerry here, I'm an upanded down. They're not great, They're

885
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 4: not terrible.

886
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 8: To me.

887
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: The colorway is off.

888
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 4: I personally don't like the Mardi Gras, very festive color

889
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 4: where they're going, but once they simplify things, maybe go

890
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: with the black and white or white and black, whatever

891
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 4: it is. It reminds me a little bit of the

892
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 4: Jordan eleven and the Jordan twelve. The color blocking where

893
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: there's kind of like an upper part of the upper

894
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: and a lower part of the upper that are just

895
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: different colors. Looks a little bit like a marching band

896
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: spatted shoe, which is a classy look. And I like

897
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: that these don't look ridiculously huge like some of the

898
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: Lebron shoes, because as we know, Zion blew out a

899
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 4: shoe when he was playing at Duke a while ago,

900
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 4: so you would think they're going to give him a

901
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: super heavy duty reinforced shoe, which a lot of thet

902
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 4: Lebron's early on were. These look like list said, kind

903
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 4: of halfway in between a guard shoe and a big

904
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 4: guy shoe, which I think is a smart move, because yeah,

905
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: big guy shoes unless they're the shacknosis or maybe the

906
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 4: pumps back in the day, they don't move quite as well.

907
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, they just look at least this colorway too.

908
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: To me, looks like a Westbrook meets a Kyrie meets there.

909
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 2: You know, a couple other variations out there, but I

910
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: don't hate them. I actually like you sort of can't

911
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 2: see it with this photo that I pulled, But the

912
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: little z W z W you know, for his for

913
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: his initials, I don't mind that little that little logo

914
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: he's got going there.

915
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're fine.

916
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: I think I'd like to see these in other colourways.

917
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: I think is what you're getting at too, Trey, and

918
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: I agree with that. Otherwise they don't look that bad.

919
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll be rocking them. But yeah, people

920
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,479
Speaker 2: are thumbs up and thumbs down, as is the case

921
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: in many of these topics. All right, our final one,

922
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: maybe it'll just be all thumbs up.

923
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

924
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 2: It's got a great rating still, I think on Rotten Tomatoes.

925
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 2: But we've been teasing it for a while. Come on

926
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: back here, JD. It's Godzilla versus Kong. You know I

927
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 2: wanted to put it in here, up or down on it?

928
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: You watched the tray watched it's what's the review?

929
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 6: Well I am unfortunately. Oh sorry, guys.

930
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 9: Can we stop with this attitude I've been seeing all

931
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 9: over the place where everybody is just completely satisfied because

932
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 9: a movie delivers on its title. Like I signed up

933
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 9: for Godzilla Versus Kong and that's exactly what I got.

934
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 9: Thumbs up?

935
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 3: No, I mean they did fight.

936
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 6: They did fight, Yes they did.

937
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 9: And and the other thing that drives me crazy, and

938
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 9: this is what everybody's saying about this this movie is

939
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 9: oh yeah, it was fun.

940
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 6: It was fun.

941
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 9: It's like, that's not good enough. It's not good enough

942
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 9: to just have fun. If I wanted to have fun,

943
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 9: I'd go ride my longboard. I want to be moved, man, Like,

944
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 9: there's no reason why a movie like this can't be

945
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 9: you know, interesting and moving.

946
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, it's just it is what it is.

947
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 9: It's like watching It's like watching wrestling, but without all

948
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 9: of the stuff in between wrestling, the interesting parts where

949
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 9: you know, they're trash talking each other and you know,

950
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 9: or survivor where we're just gonna watch the challenges. We're

951
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 9: not gonna get any of the intrigue or the plot

952
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 9: or the layers of what's going on. It's just okay,

953
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 9: I guess. Like it's like a roller coaster of a movie.

954
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 9: It's fine, I guess. And like it's got dipped down

955
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 9: to seventy nine percent or seventy six percent on roten Tomatoes,

956
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 9: and it's.

957
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 6: That's that's high to me. That's right.

958
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 9: And the ace the audience score is is like in

959
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 9: the nineties still.

960
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 6: So I don't know.

961
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 9: I don't want to be the old guy party pooper,

962
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 9: but goddamn, like, give me some substance, Like the funny

963
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 9: characters aren't funny, you know, the villains are not there,

964
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 9: like they're just is it just it just sucks.

965
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 6: I don't know. Kong was kind of kind of cool.

966
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 3: Though Kong was cool. God Kong looked cool, I thought.

967
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, Long Kong is soft, Like I can't

968
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 4: step to Godzilla at all. Everybody who voted that Kong

969
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: would beat Godzilla in one on one should be ashamed

970
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: of themselves because this guy gets the floor mopped with

971
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: him Godzilla. They first battle out in the water, not

972
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 4: even a chance for Kong. Alexander Scarsguard has to save

973
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 4: that guy. This movie could have been over within half

974
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 4: an hour if Alexander Scar's Guard didn't hop down there.

975
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 4: I will say I do like the fact that scars

976
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: Guard has a different haircut in every single scene.

977
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy. I didn't do any continuity there. I

978
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: know that we're there.

979
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 4: We're there for the advertised beef between Godzilla and Kong,

980
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 4: but you gotta put some effort into the humans the

981
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: next time they battle.

982
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Okay, it's a little bit closer. They're fighting in Hong Kong, but.

983
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: Kong needs a special weapon and then he needs that

984
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 4: weapon to be charged up by Godzilla and.

985
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: He still can't win.

986
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 4: This guy blew a three to one lead, and we're

987
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: supposed to respect him as a titan out there. I'm

988
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 4: not buying it. Stay in Hollow Earth, buddy, you can

989
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 4: rule down there. Don't come up here to the surface

990
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 4: where Godzilla is running things.

991
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 3: My favorite part of the entire movie.

992
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: I don't even care if I'm spoiling it at this point,

993
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: we're doing you a favorite. I just love the idea

994
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: of taking an eight year old to Hollow Earth. I

995
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: did no one think that was a big deal. Like,

996
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: we're going to a place we've never gone before.

997
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 6: And everyone has been killed a tempted to go.

998
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 2: But there's not even a discussion about whether we should

999
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: be taking a seven or eight year old girl, like.

1000
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 9: She can talk to the ape, right, and Trey is

1001
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 9: one hundred percent right Yeah, And spoiler alert, Kong literally

1002
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 9: gets beaten to death. He dies.

1003
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 6: Was there are.

1004
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: Playing basketball.

1005
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: I was surprised when they went to Joe Borsia. I

1006
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 4: was happy to see he got a cameo, but I

1007
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 4: was not expected.

1008
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 9: And this this trope drives me crazy in every movie,

1009
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 9: but especially in this one because it was so ridiculous.

1010
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 9: But yeah, Kong is lying on the ground dead, his

1011
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 9: heart has stopped, so they give him CPR or they

1012
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 9: defibilerate him with this machine right with an electric charge

1013
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 9: can light up Las Vegas for a weekend.

1014
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 6: And uh and this happens in every.

1015
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 9: Movie that that it does this, like the guy is dead,

1016
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 9: he has been beaten to death, but suddenly always just

1017
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 9: have to start his heart and now he's he's good

1018
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 9: to fight again. Like it's just what about all of

1019
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 9: his other injuries, you know, like what about the reason

1020
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 9: his heart stopped in the first place, which was he

1021
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 9: was beaten to death, like he his rib cage was

1022
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 9: probably crushed, like you know, you know what I'm saying.

1023
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: It would be a great movie if they actually did

1024
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: play one on one and then comes like a hamstring.

1025
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 5: You remember the old days when Hulk hoke and used

1026
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 5: to be put into a sleep ahold and the referee

1027
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: would come and lift his arm and he would drop

1028
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: it and do it on the second time and drop it.

1029
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: Because the power of the whole comediacs man, don't you

1030
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: know anything?

1031
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: No, I'm sorry that Jeddy wanted a little bit more

1032
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 5: of this, like you know so the CPI.

1033
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit tacky.

1034
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 5: You give out it if you get someone else to

1035
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 5: do something. But that's the sort of wrestling drama that

1036
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 5: I thought you were.

1037
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 6: I guess, I guess.

1038
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 2: Oh what if we see Godzilla versus Kong too on

1039
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: the WrestleMania card this week.

1040
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: That's coming up. Maybe I'll be on the second night.

1041
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: All right, Well, apologies if we did spoil that movie

1042
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: for you, but you probably had a good idea what

1043
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: the hell's gonna happen?

1044
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 3: In anyway, it was.

1045
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: As advertised, they did fight, and there are still some

1046
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 4: some factoids out there that we haven't yeah, completely spoiled.

1047
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: But come on, honestly, a joke. If you think that

1048
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 4: King Kong could beat Godzilla at anything.

1049
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Day that dare you say that to me?

1050
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 4: You don't have me convinced that King Kong was gonna

1051
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 4: body Godzilla. And Godzilla is like a hundred times bigger

1052
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 4: than King Oh it's ridiculous.

1053
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: Oh that drove me nuts.

1054
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: Actually, at times I could figure out how big is

1055
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: King Kong because I'm convinced like it would change like

1056
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: the perspective of how large he actually was. And that

1057
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: was crazy for this, like like it just didn't make

1058
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: sense sometimes.

1059
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I'm like, is he as.

1060
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: Big as an aircraft carrier? Or is he not right?

1061
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Because it felt like sometimes he could barely be on

1062
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: it and other times there was no problem. And then

1063
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: you involve the humans and it's like they shouldn't be

1064
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: even able to talk to each other because of like

1065
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 2: the sheer size different.

1066
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1067
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 9: I love the part where the little girl holds up

1068
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 9: her finger and.

1069
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 6: Then kan.

1070
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 9: Finger for them to touch fingers like accidentally.

1071
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, God Silver Connie, are you intrigued enough

1072
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 2: by this discussion to watch it?

1073
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 8: No?

1074
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: No, I shouldn't be watching shann watching. I'm glad you

1075
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: spoiled it. It sounds like it sucked and you spoiled it.

1076
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 5: Is no reason for me to indulge. How long's ago

1077
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 5: for like, just out of interest?

1078
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 6: Is it just under two hours?

1079
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Two hours too long?

1080
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 1: Really?

1081
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1082
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: Something that's a little more in your wheelhouse. Lee, new

1083
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: podcast from The Athletic just dropped today called Shattered Hope,

1084
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: Heartbreak in the New York Knicks. I had a chance

1085
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Speaker 2: to listen to the first episode. Highly recommend everybody go

1086
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 2: check this out. It's called shattered again. Just search for

1087
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: that wherever you get your podcast from. It's a documentary

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00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,800
Speaker 2: style podcast series on the past twenty years of the

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00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: New York Knicks.

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Speaker 3: Lee, go ahead and spoil it for me. Are you

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00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: in this at all? Next man? You weren't in the

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00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 3: first episode. I was a little pissed off. Yeah.

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00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 5: No, they must not have got my email address right.

1094
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: But I started listening.

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00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 5: I haven't got through the first one, but there's got

1096
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 5: some big names in there, some people who are obviously

1097
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 5: closely connected there to the team and the players, which

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00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 5: is great and just you know, because the Knicks love

1099
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 5: them or hate them, they are just a huge part

1100
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 5: of the NBA and its history, and that franchise has

1101
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 5: had some good players over the last twenty or so years,

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00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 5: had some good moments, but obviously haven't been able to

1103
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 5: get really deep into the playoffs. So you know, Chuck

1104
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 5: D's narrating it as well, my old man, Chuck D Leak.

1105
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 5: So that's good. But it is, I mean, it's it's

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00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 5: still you don't have to be a Knicks fan, I

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00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: think to enjoy this. I think you will enjoy just

1108
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 5: the uh, just the way that the Knicks fans and

1109
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 5: how they are connected to the city. Sort of intertwines

1110
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 5: there because it's you know, you love them or hate them.

1111
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 5: Everyone's got an opinion on the Knicks.

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00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 2: Yeah no, And there's like they've talked to a ton

1113
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: of people for this series, tray like Patrick Ewings, you know,

1114
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 2: prominent in the first one at least, I guess Penny Hardaway.

1115
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: And then there's Nate Robinson and Jamal Crawford and a

1116
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: bunch of former Knicks coaches and executives. And this is

1117
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: just the first episode basically talking about when the next

1118
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: one good so sort of so it's gonna get It's

1119
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: gonna get even more hilarious, I think as we get

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Speaker 2: into the bad next But yeah, go check it out.

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Speaker 3: Have you a chance to listen to the first one yet, Trey.

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00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: I know it just dropped this morning, So no, I'm

1123
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: actually planning on skipping the first one and going straight

1124
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: to when the Knicks are trashed the heart that I'm

1125
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,800
Speaker 4: very excited about to hear all of these twists and

1126
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 4: turns in the history of the New York Knicks as

1127
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 4: they've completely squandered any goodwill that they had, because yeah,

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Speaker 4: you guys.

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00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: Are right, it's fun when the Knicks are good.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's got an opinion on him, but everybody's got an

1131
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: opinion on him when they're bad too. Can't wait to

1132
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 4: hear from the legends about that.

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00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. This is gonna be a great series.

1134
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, go check it out. Shattered is the name of

1135
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: the podcast. Hope, Heartbreak and the New York Knicks saw

1136
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: some of you saying, what the hell did Skeet say?

1137
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 2: That's what it's called Shattered And the new episodes are

1138
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: gonna drop every Tuesday.

1139
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: Again. This is a documentary style podcast. So far, so good.

1140
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 3: Highly highly recommend it. Okay, JD. Time for tweet of

1141
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 3: the night.

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00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 6: Tweet of the knight. Wow.

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Speaker 9: Well, shout out to Maddio because he sent me the

1144
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 9: tweet of the night. And I probably may have come

1145
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 9: across in myself because I follow this gentleman and it's

1146
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 9: sort of a world's colliding? Is this a bit sort

1147
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 9: of thing? So the tweet comes from John Cleese Comedy

1148
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,439
Speaker 9: Royalty in my mind of Monty Python fame, of course,

1149
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 9: and he tweeted yesterday a cry for help. My beloved

1150
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 9: Utah Jazz are playing the Suns on Wednesday in Phoenix,

1151
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 9: can anyone help me and my daughter Camilla to go

1152
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 9: watch the game. I've supported them for twenty years and

1153
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 9: I've never yet seen them live. Okay, so okay, John

1154
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 9: Cleese is an NBA fan, a b A Utah Jazz fan.

1155
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 6: Is this a bit?

1156
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 9: And then he tweeted, retweeted himself and tagged the Utah

1157
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 9: Jazz and the Utah Jazz pr So okay, not a

1158
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 9: bit right then? So yeah, you wouldn't think And so

1159
00:51:54,560 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 9: then he tweeted this, which was a photoshopped He photoshopped

1160
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 9: his head on a child standing in between Rudy Gobert

1161
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 9: and Vince Carter with the caption you at Utah Jazz.

1162
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 9: I would love to come see you Wednesday in Phoenix

1163
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 9: with my daughter. Can we make this happen?

1164
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 6: Okay? This is a bit right?

1165
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 8: This?

1166
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 6: Yeah right?

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00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 9: And then he tweited this, thanks to all who gave

1168
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 9: me advice about the jazz. But I made a mistake.

1169
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 9: I assumed with limited capacity and JUS teams playing, all

1170
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 9: the tickets would have.

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00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 6: Been long gone. Not so, so I bought two tickets.

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00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 9: Sorry, okay, not a bit right, So he John cleeves

1173
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 9: big Utah Jazz fan. I know that he's on tour

1174
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 9: with his daughter. They do comedy shows, and they are

1175
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 9: in Phoenix at the moment, so he just wanted to

1176
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 9: go see you.

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00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 3: But here's the weird part.

1178
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: So he's a jazz fan, and you know, I guess

1179
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 2: tangently an NBA fan, but he doesn't know that. I

1180
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,240
Speaker 2: don't understand why he doesn't know you can't buy tickets

1181
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: to some places like I guess maybe he's just not

1182
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: following that closely.

1183
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 3: And he just sees.

1184
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: Utah and Phoenix at the top of the Western Conference standings.

1185
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, this must be sold out weeks ago.

1186
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 6: All right, exactly weird.

1187
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 9: It's very strange, but hey, shout out to John Cleese.

1188
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 9: And then there was one other thing that, again, sort

1189
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 9: of an apologue to this. Somebody tweeted at him, you

1190
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 9: should really be an ilky cy thunder fan thunder up

1191
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 9: hashtag thunder up not in this lifetime. He says, I

1192
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 9: have any from Oklahoma. She didn't tell me until after

1193
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 9: we got married.

1194
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: Is it a bit?

1195
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 6: I don't know, that's loud.

1196
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 5: A bit because this is a weird thing. He lives

1197
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 5: in California most of the time, so Los Angeles to

1198
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 5: Utah in twenty years, he wasn't able to get out

1199
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 5: there freaking Okay. He's also done a comedy stand up

1200
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 5: about the divorce laws in California because that may have

1201
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 5: been the wife he had to pay an absolute fortune

1202
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 5: to after he wasn't married to for very long. So

1203
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 5: maybe that's what he's going about. But he's been actually

1204
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 5: talking with the Jazz a few times this season, so

1205
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 5: not a bit, just a weird bit, just a very

1206
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 5: very weird bit.

1207
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 3: I'm guessing.

1208
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 5: People on Twitter were lighting him up saying, just buy tickets,

1209
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 5: you're John, and.

1210
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 3: That's when he was like Jazz.

1211
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, yeah, I probably should just buy

1212
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 5: them rather than just asking for them.

1213
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 6: Look, who's talking.

1214
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: It's a great comedian, John Please.

1215
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1216
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 3: So weird stuff going unless someone.

1217
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 5: Else is just in charge of his Twitter account, but

1218
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 5: I don't think that's the case.

1219
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: Well, here's all we need to do, everybody today, tweet

1220
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: at John clae and tell him to come on the

1221
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: No Dogs podcast.

1222
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, let's take some jazz.

1223
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: Let's talk some hoops.

1224
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the ticket buying process, all right.

1225
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 3: Got tickets to the game?

1226
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: Get tickets to the game.

1227
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 3: Oh man, Okay, great stuff. Shut up to Maddie Oh

1228
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: coming through.

1229
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 2: Getting reference left and right here today's show, love it, Okay,

1230
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 2: pick the results. It was the King's Wolves game and

1231
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 2: Sacramento was favored by three and a half, but they,

1232
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: I always forget, played down into their competition better than anybody.

1233
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: And Minnesota got the victory as D'Angelo Russell return and

1234
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: Kay had a big game and happy for the Wolves fans.

1235
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,879
Speaker 2: Good good victory there for a few of us out there, right,

1236
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 2: Tass and Lee had Minnesota where Trey and I believe

1237
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: had the King. So another less I'm I'm a star

1238
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: out guy lately. But tonight's game and bounce back here

1239
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: it's a Sixers Celtics Sixers on the road in Boston,

1240
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 2: favored by one and a half.

1241
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: Leg go ahead, get started? Are you like well?

1242
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 5: I guess Joel em bead missed their last game after

1243
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 5: coming back for his first game, but I'm guessing that

1244
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 5: was more just a sort of recovery thing, so he's.

1245
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 3: Not on the injury reports.

1246
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 5: I'm guessing Joel Embiid is playing, uh and I'm hoping

1247
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 5: that he can sort of feast on those Celtic inside.

1248
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 5: I think there's no one to really stop, especially now

1249
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 5: that Tys is not there. So I will take Philadelphia

1250
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 5: to win by two points.

1251
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 4: Okayry, Yeah, I'm exactly with Leon this one. I'm assuming

1252
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 4: Embiid's gonna play, and he's had some pretty good games

1253
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 4: against the Celtics this season.

1254
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: He had forty two and ten earlier and an easy win.

1255
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 4: And let me check this other game as well, thirty

1256
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 4: eight and eleven in another win for the Sixers. So

1257
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 4: give me Joel Embiid and the Sixers hope he actually plays,

1258
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 4: all right, I'll swear here.

1259
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: I'll take the Celtics.

1260
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: They've been playing better, though they haven't played a team

1261
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 2: like the Sixers maybe recently, but I think they're gonna

1262
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: go and try and get this win for Paul Pierce

1263
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 2: tonight after he'd parted with ESPN.

1264
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 3: So give me the Celtics to cover. Let's find out

1265
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 3: who tastas.

1266
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 8: This might be wishful thinking, but I'm taking the Boston

1267
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 8: Celtics because I want them to join the Eastern Conference

1268
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 8: Elite or at least get a little bit closer they

1269
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 8: can handle Joel Embiid.

1270
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

1271
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: I got you twice.

1272
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know what was going on. JD had me confused.

1273
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: We were on the side there for a second. It

1274
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Tasa and I.

1275
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 6: I forgot to upload it, so I had to share.

1276
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: It from I see. That's all right, Tasa and I

1277
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: are taking Boston to at least lose this game by

1278
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: one point or outright victory and try and ly have

1279
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: the six.

1280
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: Ers win by two or more.

1281
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 2: Good luck to everybody. That's it for today again. Everybody

1282
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: tweet John Cleice let's get along. No dunks emails your

1283
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: d mean questions for tomorrow's beach step in podcast No

1284
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: Dunks at the Athletic dot com, or you can tweet

1285
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1286
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1287
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1289
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1290
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1292
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1293
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1296
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 3: What are you laughing about? Lead out to Sam.

1297
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: You know no, he's already tweeted Junklee. Hey John clea podcast.

1298
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's talk hoops John.

1299
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: All right, guys, we will be back well later tonight

1300
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Speaker 2: the Top Shot Hot Boys. We'll be firing up a

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