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Speaker 3: This is Hanging with the Boys presented by Wing Stuff

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Speaker 3: where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Jesse Holly,

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Speaker 3: Kurt Daniels, and Nate Newton.

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 5: Of course the ce's it ain't nothing. We back, baby,

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Speaker 5: We are back together.

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Speaker 6: You know what we You better get a better olden

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Speaker 6: than that. You big to see that guy sure has

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Speaker 6: no intelligence to it. You're gonna get something, ben Net.

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Speaker 6: I like, I understand what you're trying not to get

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Speaker 6: done to us.

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Speaker 5: I don't want copywriter for Yeah, you can only say

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Speaker 5: a certain amount of lyrics to a certain amount of

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Speaker 5: song before they start calling to.

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Speaker 6: Make up your own. You need to do better than that.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, jes go ahead on them.

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Speaker 4: Sorry.

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Speaker 5: Welcome into this Tuesday edition, off season edition of Hanging.

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Speaker 4: With the Boy.

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Speaker 5: That's a live look of the war room where to me,

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Speaker 5: one of the best stories of the NFL Draft happened

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Speaker 5: right there in that room. And we'll talk about that.

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Speaker 5: But that's where it went down. This last Thursday Friday

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Speaker 5: Saturday for the Dallas Cowboys as the NFL Draft, the

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty three NFL Draft has come and gone. The

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Speaker 5: draft picture in, the selections are made. The people are

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Speaker 5: in their positions now and we will talk about them. Chris, Chris, Chris,

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Speaker 5: Chris is in the back. Kurt Daniel was out here. Uh,

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Speaker 5: what's your name again?

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Speaker 6: My name is Mazy, Mazy Smith, Mozzie Smith, Amazing, that's

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Speaker 6: my name.

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Speaker 5: Nathaniel Knew and I am Zaddie Holly. Together we make

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Speaker 5: hanging with the boys the sports talk equivalent of brill.

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Speaker 5: People feel us when we speak. This segment is brought

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Speaker 5: to you by Wingstop where Flavor gets its wings. The

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Speaker 5: Cowboys draft is in. Players are picked the Cowboys to

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Speaker 5: many surprise, and it kind of almost maybe sometimes kind

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Speaker 5: of maybe smoke screened us all with the heavy talk

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Speaker 5: of tight end that was circulating.

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Speaker 4: Around the room.

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Speaker 5: And then they get to the twenty six pick and

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Speaker 5: the Cowboys are saying, and you and and great job

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Speaker 5: to uh to Chris, to to to to everybody, Chris,

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Speaker 5: give me the name of the team that was in

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Speaker 5: the war room. Rock Sand was in there? Who else

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Speaker 5: was in there? Kevin Gates was working in there. Who

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Speaker 5: else was in there? I'm missing some Uh Scott Purcell's Uh,

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Speaker 5: who else was in there? Lily? What's what's what's Lily's

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Speaker 5: first name? Alex Lily? I'm missing someone else? Who else

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Speaker 5: is in there?

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Speaker 4: You had Kaden Gates.

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Speaker 6: I said Kyle had anything to do with Kyle Yomans.

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Speaker 7: He was just running the draft show.

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Speaker 5: But I'm talking about the people that were behind the

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Speaker 5: scene getting the audio. Shout out to all of this,

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Speaker 5: you guys, Jazzy guests, audio audio, Jeff, thank you, Thank you,

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Speaker 5: Kurt audio Jazz was in there. Thank you to the

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Speaker 5: tremendous job that you all did to bring us those

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Speaker 5: behind the scene clips and sound bites that we heard

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Speaker 5: all throughout the draft. But the Cowboys at number twenty

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Speaker 5: six in the first round, select defensive tackle Michigan Wolverine

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Speaker 5: Mazie Mazi.

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Speaker 6: That's the name heard which what y'all Norman mess up?

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Speaker 6: This kid named her first round pick. I need to

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Speaker 6: know his proper.

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Speaker 5: Name, Mazzi. I'm going with Mazi.

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Speaker 4: Chris, what is yours? Si? Mozzi?

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Speaker 5: Mozzi?

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Speaker 4: Okay, what is yours?

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Speaker 7: Mazie? He goes by moths.

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Speaker 4: Don't do that.

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Speaker 6: I want to make suit because man, we are twelve

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Speaker 6: years and trying to find it. Took us twelve years, Jesse,

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Speaker 6: to find this big grease and ham, hot bacon, eden

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Speaker 6: potato smashing, run stopping player. Man, took us twelve years.

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Speaker 6: I was I was shocked. My wife like you ain't

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Speaker 8: He said something in his press conference, I just I

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Speaker 8: just thought of you, Nate. When someone asked him, how

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Speaker 8: did you describe him? And he said one of his

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Speaker 8: former teammates described him as a refrigerator. When you push

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right here. You can't stop. At the moment,

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Speaker 6: it was so great. Wow man, oh cowboys, what took

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Speaker 5: So I want it take so long that you're on

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, the first two picks that you can take

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Speaker 6: the rest of this draft and you could do what

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Speaker 4: But the first two picks, and I know it ain't.

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Speaker 6: As much as what me and you needed it to

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Speaker 6: be with the flexy sexy, but the kid can run

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Speaker 6: block the second.

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Speaker 4: People were talking about the first pick.

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Speaker 6: One can stop the run and the other one can

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Speaker 6: help enhance the run. Come on you what took us

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Speaker 6: so long? I'm excited. I'm excited, Kurt.

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Speaker 5: When you heard when you when you saw the pickers

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Speaker 5: the board at that time. There were guys like Joey

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Speaker 5: Porter Jr. Was still on the board. There were guys

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Speaker 5: they were offensive lineman. I was still left on the board.

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Speaker 5: There were some tight ends left on the board.

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Speaker 4: Still could have got Cody there.

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Speaker 5: There were there were there were a bunch of players

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Speaker 5: defensive tackle, what was your what was your first thought?

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Speaker 7: It was shocked prize for sure. I wasn't ready for

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Speaker 7: that one, but you know, in reading some more about it,

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Speaker 7: it looked like the smart way to go. Like we again,

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Speaker 7: we've been twelve years, whatever we've been talking about. They

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Speaker 7: So I was I was leaning more. I kind of

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Speaker 5: So you know, when while I wanted to praise the

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Speaker 5: the cowboys and I'm talking about the front office and

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Speaker 5: Will McClay. Yes, as there as you watch them bouncing

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Speaker 5: this pick, and you're seeing what they're looking they're looking at.

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Speaker 5: They're like turn their chairs and they're looking at Will McLay, like,

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Speaker 4: You know. I had, Oh did you don't need the tour?

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Speaker 5: No, don't talk, and you know, and Will was like,

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Speaker 5: this is a guy who who he wanted and they went.

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Speaker 7: Isction stunned?

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Speaker 4: Shot?

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Speaker 5: I think we all were shot. I think shot across

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Speaker 5: the board is the right term to use. I'm I'm

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Speaker 5: not in love with the pick, all right, I'm not,

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Speaker 5: think when you look at especially these early draft picks,

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Speaker 5: which I deemed to be premium picks. It's not the

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Speaker 5: sexy pick. It's not And even with even even with

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Speaker 5: Mazzie Smith, he's not like Mazzie to me in it

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Speaker 5: drafting and whole. To me, it's not a in Stone

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Speaker 6: Who who ain't these dre gonna start? You gonna start?

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Speaker 5: He gonna split time?

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Speaker 2: For what?

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Speaker 6: Why he gonna split times? Don't nobody want to stop

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Speaker 5: So what I'm saying is they're gonna split time because

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Speaker 5: what what Mossie isn't When I talk about being a

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Speaker 4: So what the past orst ain't never what we had

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Speaker 5: I understand what this is why I'm taming that he

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Speaker 5: has to split time. He's gonna split time. Bruh, he

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Speaker 6: Stop that foolishness, Stop that foolishness. If if we will

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Speaker 6: see that that you are the problem. You you are

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Speaker 6: a virus. You gonna start some problems, don't If this

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Speaker 6: kid see that is what run Gallum Gallimore, that is

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Speaker 6: He has one job. Do not go away from that

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Speaker 6: one job. Stop the run, eat up bodies, then second down.

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Speaker 4: If you ain't did your job, then.

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Speaker 6: We don't need you on the field, because if you

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Speaker 6: mean second in five, A second and six.

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Speaker 4: You've done your job. We need guys.

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Speaker 6: That's gonna stop the run, and now we can dictate

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Speaker 6: how you passed us with get well, get with them

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Speaker 6: guy we got come on now, don't do that.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm not saying again.

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Speaker 4: Forget the past rush this kick.

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Speaker 5: You can't say forget the pass rush.

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Speaker 8: He wasn't asked to pass rush and the reason wise

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Speaker 7: So are you Chris that he can Yes, I think

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Speaker 4: I just don't think. I don't think. I think Jesse

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Speaker 8: Him as a one trick pony, and I don't think

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Speaker 8: I think he can do more.

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Speaker 5: I see him as a one trick pony. I'm saying

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Speaker 4: He wasn't asked to do.

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Speaker 6: What he needed to develop into is right now. He's

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Speaker 6: he's he's a two.

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Speaker 6: He can get on guys and not and guys can't

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Speaker 4: What I need him to do now is be.

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Speaker 6: A guy that can play on the other side of

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Speaker 4: That's what we need from him.

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Speaker 6: And then four years from now if he wants, you know,

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Speaker 6: right before he have to do that. Fifth year, didn't

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Speaker 6: so we can keep him.

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Speaker 4: That's all. That's what we need.

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Speaker 6: Do not lose focus, like when I was talking to

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Speaker 6: Will doing the draft. Don't lose focus the way we

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Speaker 6: at here. Don't lose focus. Now if we need a

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Speaker 6: we could have got some pass rushers that could posably

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Speaker 4: But this dude is not that. This dude is a

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Speaker 6: He's he's gonna make it way Laton where the freak

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Speaker 4: All we need, but he wants to stop to run.

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Speaker 5: And I think this goes I think drafting him goes

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Speaker 6: They can get on the edge with what the talent

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Speaker 7: But the cat to all that is we all respect

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Speaker 4: But you look up, you won injury away from disaster.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing. That's the thing is that have

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Speaker 5: You know, the forniacts of the world and the balls

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Speaker 6: Training camp is funiac ball the other kid that got

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Speaker 6: if we're gonna believe that Mike Slauri is gonna come

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Speaker 6: And I'm with you. Just that's just saying that they believe.

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Speaker 6: it took them twelve years to find the the big greases.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know.

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Speaker 5: One of the most incredible stories in the draft, and

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Speaker 5: in formation as we can look to dive more into

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Speaker 5: time cowboy scout here in the Cowboys has a son,

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Speaker 5: and Chris son who is to me. I said this

442
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 5: month ago about this player dynamic player. Yes, small in stature,

443
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 5: small in size, but as a dynamic player can do

444
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Speaker 5: a lot of different things. And you saw that during

445
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Speaker 5: his college career at Kansas State. And Chris has the audio,

446
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Speaker 5: and I want us to kind of one and go

447
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Speaker 5: through this audio. And I could not imagine being Chris

448
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 5: Vaughn in this situation where the Cowboys are up for

449
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 5: a pick and there's a certain player on their board

450
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Speaker 5: that Chris has a very very very familiar knowledge to

451
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Speaker 5: this particular player. So Chris, if you can put up

452
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Speaker 5: the video and play the audio to the Cowboys selecting

453
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Speaker 5: this player in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft.

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Speaker 6: Hey buddy, it's going good this dad.

455
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Speaker 5: My phone wasn't working.

456
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Speaker 4: Look at here, man, you want to come to work

457
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Speaker 4: with me next week? I got somebody want to speak

458
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Speaker 4: to you. I got somebody want to speak for you.

459
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Speaker 9: I don't know when I've been speaking for everybody that's

460
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Speaker 9: really in the heart of the Dollars Cowboys. Just tan

461
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Speaker 9: there with a tear in our eye.

462
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Speaker 5: We're so happy to have you on the Dallas Cowboys.

463
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Speaker 13: I can't thank you enough.

464
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Speaker 9: Well, what I really want to say, you earned every

465
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 9: ounce of me being able to make this call. I'm

466
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Speaker 9: so excited. There's just something magical about this moment that

467
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 9: may be bigger than we even realize. You're talking to

468
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Speaker 9: you on the phone, but you is now a Dallas cowboy.

469
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Speaker 9: Your daddy is just handing a card in right here. Yes,

470
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Speaker 9: it's got him on it.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Duce Mike McCarthy, congratulations.

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Speaker 8: What's up, coach?

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Speaker 5: I appreciate it. I'll tell you what I've been doing

475
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Speaker 5: this a long time. This is so special for you

476
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Speaker 5: and your family. And if you can, if you could

477
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Speaker 5: make sure you drive so make sure your dad's on

478
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Speaker 5: time for work.

479
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Speaker 4: We'd appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I can do that.

481
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Speaker 12: I can do that.

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Speaker 4: Duce Man, Congratulations.

483
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Speaker 10: One of the coolest things I've ever seen in football

484
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Speaker 10: was your dad making that call to thank you, brother,

485
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Speaker 10: thank you.

486
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Speaker 4: So proud of you and your family. That is thank you.

487
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Speaker 5: He won't let you down, I promise you that. Wow.

488
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Speaker 7: That's great.

489
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Speaker 5: Wow, like chills just watching that. Chris Vaughan, the father

490
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Speaker 5: of Deuce Vaughan, being able to make that call and say, son,

491
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Speaker 5: would you want to come to work with me next week?

492
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Speaker 5: I mean that. That that is that's special. That that

493
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 5: that that's a special moment. I think that may go

494
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Speaker 5: down as one of the great draft moments. And and

495
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Speaker 5: if we're being honest, Deuce isn't he ain't slouch like

496
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Speaker 5: this is This is a guy.

497
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Speaker 7: The only thing against him is the size.

498
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Speaker 5: This is a guy when you look at which if

499
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 5: done right, this is one of those guys if you

500
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 5: put him in the mix, can do some special things,

501
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 5: can really do some special things with the football as

502
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 5: a pass catcher, as a pass runner, may be on

503
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Speaker 5: special teams, as a kick returner, a puff returner. I

504
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 5: know that you got you know, you got Turpin who

505
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 5: was doing some things for you last year as well.

506
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Speaker 5: But if the Cowboys use this player correctly, he can

507
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 5: be one of those guys who can be really special

508
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Speaker 5: for him.

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Speaker 6: Nate Brother, I'm with you, I'm I'm I just I'm

510
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 6: just looking at it, man, and just excited that you're excited,

511
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 6: just and excited that everybody's excited.

512
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 5: Man, did it not make you excited? How did you

513
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 5: feel watching that moment?

514
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: I just I think it's a great joy when you

515
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 6: know when a father can do that for his son,

516
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 6: and mister Jones made it happen, and uh, what was

517
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 6: more important than me is when they said he earned

518
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 6: it to be giving.

519
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: This great opportunity.

520
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 6: So that that right there, that's that's what I like

521
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: when you've earned it.

522
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 4: And everybody that I've wrapped with, see how electric this

523
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 4: kid is.

524
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: Now, can we use him in a proper way to

525
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 6: make sure that he has a good chance to make

526
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Speaker 6: this teams?

527
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Speaker 7: Was the other k State little guy coming.

528
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,719
Speaker 6: Out of spros coming out Man, he twelve years smashed Oklahoma.

529
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 4: Let me smashed Oklahoma.

530
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Speaker 6: So I just when you get these certain type players,

531
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Speaker 6: are these special type players and weve been you know

532
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 6: I said last year with Terping. Okay, I know he

533
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 6: can do more than what he's doing. Okay, is Brian

534
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 6: Shothaim when they finally gave him for my first name?

535
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 4: What kind of threw me back when they gave him

536
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: for him?

537
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 10: Like?

538
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 4: Do you know how to use this guy?

539
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 6: Because the last three offensive coordinator were gonna have a

540
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 6: can use to these guys in the correct and proper way,

541
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 6: no more than a jet sweep. So I just want

542
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 6: to see. I just came wait the training camp, Jess.

543
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 5: And and look at when Adam duce vaunt to the mix.

544
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 5: This is a this is a guy who's walking into

545
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 5: a pretty stout running back room. Tony Pollard kind of

546
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: being the lead dog in there, followed by Ronald Jones.

547
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 5: Then you're looking at Malik Davis, who's been a guy

548
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 5: who's been around here for a while. Coaching staff really

549
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 5: likes Malik Davis. And then you add him to the mix.

550
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 7: I mean there, I think there's opportunities there. There's question

551
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 7: marks because it's it's Pollard going to be the same guys.

552
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 7: Is Jones? How much he got left in the tank?

553
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: I got ten million reasons why he better be the

554
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: same guy. He don't say that.

555
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 5: It's a good point.

556
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 7: I think there's he's definitely gonna have some opportunities.

557
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: Just man, and and and I just then I think

558
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: about your situation.

559
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 6: That's what That's what I was sitting over here thinking, like, wow, man,

560
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 6: you know your father and stuff like that. I think

561
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 6: about stuff like that just go through my mind. I like, wow,

562
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: and just just able to over you know what I'm saying.

563
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 6: I'm thinking about you.

564
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 4: You're like just over there.

565
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 6: Able to overcome that, man, because that would probably just

566
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 6: throw me into a tail span.

567
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

568
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 6: To be joyful for another person in that situation like

569
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 6: that that that good.

570
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: Good for you, brother.

571
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 5: No, when I saw that, that to me the part

572
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 5: when you hear mister Jones says you earned this because

573
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 5: we didn't give this to your dad, Like this is

574
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 5: this isn't a gimme right. The draft is too valuable

575
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 5: just to be giving people in the draft like, no,

576
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 5: you earned this. And if you watch any bit of

577
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: college football, you watch this kid, you watch k State,

578
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: especially him.

579
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Speaker 6: I didn't even know that was his dad. Man, I'm

580
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 6: just looking at the player when I watched them one

581
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 6: or two times, this kid pretty nice, I.

582
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 4: Know that was.

583
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Speaker 5: And you know this is this is a kid who's

584
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 5: been dynamic, who's really etched out his own niche in

585
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: college football to have this opportunity.

586
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 7: So I'm not sure how much Chris like it sounded

587
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 7: like when the time came up, like Chris was out

588
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 7: of the room, like they weren't he wasn't going to

589
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 7: be involved because you know, you don't one of the

590
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 7: others couts and huld you know, we don't, you know whatever,

591
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 7: So he was and then it sounded like they sort

592
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 7: of set him up a little bit.

593
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Speaker 4: I think mister miss Jones, Good Bailey, rig Brothers.

594
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 6: But just and I said, you know what, let me

595
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 6: you know, because I know I didn't sound too enthused

596
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 6: for the kids. Yeah, And so I'm like, let me

597
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 6: say something because I was enthused for you.

598
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

599
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 6: Sometimes and I think weird, y'all know I do, so

600
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 6: when I'm like, WHOA for just it?

601
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Speaker 4: You know?

602
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Speaker 6: And so my hat's off to you man, you know.

603
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 6: And uh, And I love with the kid. I know,

604
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 6: I've seen the kid playing. I love the kid and

605
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 6: it's dynamic. And I still say the same thing. Do

606
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 6: we know how to use this type of talent?

607
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: Can we show that we can use this type of

608
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: talent for five or.

609
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 6: Ten plays a game that can make and get us

610
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 6: a touchdown or key first down.

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00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: We'll see, all right.

612
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: We'll take our final break of the show. When we

613
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 5: come back, we'll kind of drake we'll kind of grade

614
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Speaker 5: the draft. Well, we'll give we'll give him a letter.

615
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: A A plus one guy stop stop.

616
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 5: We'll give them well.

617
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 6: A bacon, just a b bacon, baby, grade A.

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00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 5: We'll give a grade to the draft, and and see

619
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Speaker 5: what everyone has to think about the draft. Uh And

620
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Speaker 5: and and that's how we'll we'll end our show.

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Speaker 4: This is Chris, sobet is gonna get this maid's kid.

622
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 4: He just Ryan. He told me not to say nothing.

623
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Speaker 5: Oh well, Chris is no drummers, Christian Dumas, stay right

624
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 5: here with it. This is hanging with the boys.

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Speaker 4: Back to Hanging with the.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys. Tuesday's all season edition.

671
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Speaker 5: Kurt Nate Jesse. We're bringing to you the draft run down.

672
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 5: The Cowboys completed their draft and we're going to now

673
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 5: grade them. We're gonna give them grades, letter grades of

674
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 5: what the draft or let me let me preface this

675
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 5: by saying this our dream, our draft. Drade grades mean

676
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 5: absolutely nothing.

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00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 6: Mine means something, that means actually mine means something.

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00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 5: Because it is what's today's date, May second, first second,

679
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 5: May second, twenty twenty three. We have zero idea hope

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Speaker 5: what these players will be.

681
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: Don't you don't I know what fred round pick gonna be.

682
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 5: We don't, we we we don't. We didn't know what

683
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 5: when we drafted Michael Parsons. We thought that was gonna

684
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 5: be a linebacker. We didn't know what we had at

685
00:34:58,480 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 5: Michael Parsons.

686
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: But it's some injury and.

687
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 5: Anything. He didn't tell you anything.

688
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 6: Everybody, what you think Jan's had like nobody else talked

689
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 6: to the coaches.

690
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: Man, no, you I know, I talked to Queen about

691
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: this kid.

692
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: He didn't know, Yes he did. He said he didn't know.

693
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 4: He was telling you one thing and telling Big Noon another.

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00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 6: Okay, I mean soever, then he told me the truth

695
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 6: and didn't tell you the truth.

696
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 5: Story of my life, my life joking no, but but honestly,

697
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 5: like we give grades now, and I know that people

698
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 5: wanted to do that and wanted to evaluate and talk.

699
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 5: I get it. It means nothing because there are tons

700
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 5: of players who people been low. I saw somewhere that

701
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 5: that people gave Kansas City a couple of years ago

702
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 5: when they drafted, they moved off to get Patrick Mahomes.

703
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 5: They said, Patrick Mahomes minas, Yeah, minas. Now he's the best.

704
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 5: He's the best football player we've ever seen in our lives.

705
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 7: Nobody.

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00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 5: A lot of us hated the Michael Parson draft pick.

707
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 5: A lot of people we thought, man, we wanted a

708
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 5: quarterback there, we wanted this, and they took Michael Parsons.

709
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 8: And then they went back and redrafted two years later,

710
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 8: and he's like the third pick in the trash.

711
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 5: Right, And they were like, oh, why would we pick

712
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: a linebacker, what the what are we doing? And then

713
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: the alien Michael Parson appears and now he's the baddest

714
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 5: mofo around this town. So we give the grades, don't

715
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 5: hold the grades to us. To NAT's point, I too

716
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 5: can't wait to train the camp because we get a

717
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 5: better assessment of what these guys are. These guys haven't

718
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 5: even put pads on yet. They haven't been in the

719
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 5: locker rooms like the meeting rooms yet, they haven't got

720
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 5: the systems yet. So this is just for for fun purposes. Sure,

721
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 5: we'll evaluate the Cowboys draft. And so I'll start with you, Kurk,

722
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: because I already know what this guy's gotta say over here.

723
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 5: So you and I, You and I will go. You

724
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 5: and I will go first. You and I will go first,

725
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 5: so that we can have a sence conversation this jack

726
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 5: over here. You know we're going to say something ridiculous.

727
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 7: You know, I put my faith in Will McClay and

728
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 7: his staff, so I'll give it, you know, B Minus,

729
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: I guess there's some positions, Like I talked about early

730
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 7: in the second round, I wonder about there's still a

731
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 7: lot of holes to fill. I think in some areas.

732
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 7: But like I said, they've they've. Will has a great

733
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 7: track record and I trust him. So just for giggles

734
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Speaker 7: and whatever, all so be, maybe Minus.

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00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: We're not going to you yet, Kurt and I will

736
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Speaker 5: have a We're gonna have an adult conversation.

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00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: Okay.

738
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Speaker 5: I am on the loan lines of you, Kurt with

739
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Speaker 5: with the B minus and my biggest concern about this

740
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 5: draft from top to bottom, and I do believe this

741
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 5: and injuries may happen, performance may happen between now and

742
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 5: when we get to the season. I don't see a

743
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 5: guy on this list that is a stand alone dominant

744
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 5: player or robostic or.

745
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: Of Kansas.

746
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Speaker 7: He's in the rookie free agency want.

747
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 5: Okay, you know when we get to this guy, we

748
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 5: have to deal with. This is what we have to

749
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: deal with. Because I'm not saying that, and listen to me, clearly, people,

750
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that Mazzie Smith will not be a player,

751
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 5: but a lot of people and I'm not the draft gurule.

752
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 5: This Massie Smith wasn't a guy that was talked about

753
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: as being one of the best defensive tackles in the

754
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 5: country like that. He doesn't he give me the Jalen

755
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: Carter vibes. Now, maybe he comes in here and he dominates.

756
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 5: That's great for everybody involved. But I think this is

757
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: a guy who you adding to that piece, and he's

758
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 5: gonna be in the rotation of guys that they use.

759
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: He's not the Aaron Donald type where he's gonna come

760
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 5: in and dominate and stand alone and be the thing

761
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 5: that we look at and go we're building around this guy.

762
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 5: I think he fits in as a major piece, but

763
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 5: not the piece. I think the same way with the

764
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,479
Speaker 5: tight end. I think he doesn't stand out alone. He doesn't.

765
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Speaker 5: He doesn't come in and say hindershot and and and

766
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Speaker 5: and Ferguson get back. That doesn't give me this vine.

767
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: This gives me the vibes of he's a really good

768
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: run blocker and he can become a pass catcher down

769
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Speaker 5: the field. There's a guy who will be in the

770
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Speaker 5: rotation again. And the same thing with with Overshowing and

771
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 5: for Who. These are all guys who are pieces that

772
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 5: will be added to the mix. Of sim Richards, who's

773
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 5: an offensive lineman who will be adding into the mix.

774
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 5: So there's nothing anybody will this list that is head

775
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 5: and shoulders above as everyone.

776
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 7: Else sure starters first round.

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00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 5: That's just me, right, I'm not. I'm not, and I

778
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 5: don't want people to take this as they're not going

779
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 5: to be players, They're not going to be significant contributors

780
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 5: to what we have here in the successful mold. I'm

781
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: just saying it doesn't feel today, right now, that there's

782
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Speaker 5: a guy in this draft selection that's like, yeah, I'm him.

783
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 5: There's no there's not a hymn.

784
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Speaker 6: On this list was mister Smith's name, first name, Mazzizi.

785
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 4: There's not a hymn on this list that's him.

786
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 5: There's no him on this list.

787
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 4: He's the man.

788
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's the man. He's the number twenty six pick,

789
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 5: and he.

790
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: Is him.

791
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 5: But I think he's a guy that's in the rotation.

792
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: He is him.

793
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Speaker 5: Now, Nate, we'll get to you and ask you for

794
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 5: your grade.

795
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've talked about it. It's already been done. I

796
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 6: don't care about no grade. All I care about is

797
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 6: that this kid Smith do what he's supposed to do

798
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 6: when he gets in here.

799
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 4: Mssrs uh Luke's uh, how you've been a.

800
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Speaker 6: Scream schoolmakers, school maker as long as they don't as

801
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 6: those two guys do what they have to do.

802
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: I'm good.

803
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna be a good little school.

804
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

805
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 5: What he makes a play, Yeah, that's all.

806
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 4: The bottom line is this right here.

807
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 5: And if I'm a Masera Roti dealership here in Dallas,

808
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 5: I'm definitely getting on the board of getting mazi a.

809
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 6: You you you telling us by this draft that you're

810
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 6: good with Dolphins line. You know when you when you

811
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 6: didn't get the line and you just told us, you

812
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 6: know you good? What y'all got? Are y'all making find

813
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 6: something out there?

814
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: Some good We.

815
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Speaker 6: Enhanced and run with our second round pick, Luke being

816
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 6: able to get guys out on the edge, giving them

817
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 6: another option, I mean, a real value option of getting

818
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 6: guys out on the edge making plays. He can't catch

819
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 6: the ball. Mazzi is a run stopper. Do not for

820
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 6: his first year. Do not make him more than what

821
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 6: he is. He is a run stopper. He is at

822
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 6: now we'll see my man, Layton. Layton should be like,

823
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 6: if this kid do what he's supposed to do, Layton

824
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 6: gonna be making some plays coming downhill, hitting some gaps.

825
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 4: You know, so we we we're good.

826
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: Michael Parson jokingly said when they when they made this pick.

827
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 5: He wanted this pick as well. He texts Dan Quinn

828
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 5: earlyer in the day said the d tackle from Michigan.

829
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 5: But he was on a simulcast and and they had

830
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: a J Brown from the Philadelphia Eagles, and he just

831
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 5: kept saying, no more quarterback sneaks AJ And you know

832
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 5: the double cheek push that the that the Philadelphia Eagles

833
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 5: run with what Jalen hurts. And you have a guy

834
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: like Mazzie and you hope that that's something that you

835
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 5: can stop because you'll see Eagles twice a year. Do

836
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 5: you think don't do that?

837
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: Ah? Stop, don't don't.

838
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna let y'all talk about on the stream,

839
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 6: don't you. I had I had to listen to too

840
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 6: many people.

841
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 4: You know.

842
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 6: It's like the Cowboys weren't even drafted every time Philadelphia.

843
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 6: Hey man, what do you I got more calls from

844
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 6: folks about Philadelphia draft.

845
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 4: I ain't let nobody talk about it. All right?

846
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 6: Is there a need left on this offensive line? I

847
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 6: need offensive line? So you still think that, oh, yes, sir,

848
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 6: we need office lineman, we need a dog man, we

849
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 6: need we need somebody that can play.

850
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: And they went and picked up one, two, three, they

851
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 5: signed some you know, some some un drafted players.

852
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: Earlbostic Man my ears say, hell, Earl bostick Man, Old

853
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 4: Tam Kansas.

854
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 6: We need a tackle, if you, if you, I just

855
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 6: need somebody to where we don't have to keep switching.

856
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 4: This kid, our first round pick. Let him play one

857
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 4: or the other.

858
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 5: Talking about Tyler Smith, Yeah, I read.

859
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 6: Something where they was like, they're gonna try to, you know,

860
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 6: work guys at different positions and stuff.

861
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, we go.

862
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 6: Again, that's gonna catch up to us. Let guys get

863
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 6: good at something.

864
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: I don't know.

865
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 7: I think there's a to me, there's still a concerned

866
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 7: receiver as well. I mean, because you're you're hoping for

867
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 7: the best with with uh No, with the gallup gallup.

868
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 7: You're hoping he can come back. But you know, if

869
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 7: you have three, you're great. But if another injury, then

870
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 7: you know, And there's a lot of question marks. And

871
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 7: they didn't really what they last picked. They addressed that so.

872
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 5: And that kid's more of a forgot about last year

873
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 5: the last year guys.

874
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 7: I mean when they took last year, guys.

875
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 5: What last year are you talking about?

876
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: You talk?

877
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 7: That's the question mark. They hope he can take that

878
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 7: next and it's a question mark. And then you look,

879
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 7: you know they took one, I mean.

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Speaker 4: One, we write the kid off, don't.

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Speaker 5: One time last year like he got on the field

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Speaker 5: one time and lined up all sides. Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 5: huge question marked there. Wow, he got beat out in

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Speaker 5: training camp by by by Dennis Houston. Yeah, and we

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Speaker 5: we had hoped that they were saying, oh wait till

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Speaker 5: James Washington come back, Like James Washington jumped him when

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Speaker 5: he came back. So yeah, there's a huge question mark

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Speaker 5: in jenln Tobert's box right now on who he is

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Speaker 5: as a player.

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Speaker 7: So yeah, it's a top I mean, he admitted after

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Speaker 7: the season that he you know, he struggled and he

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Speaker 7: seems to have the right attitude. So hopefully can he

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Speaker 7: can do it?

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Speaker 5: But it took question what man, tell you what Nat

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Speaker 5: is already Nate is already into his sixteen and it

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Speaker 5: was now eighteen and no mold already.

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Speaker 6: No, No, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm not I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna do that this year.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna believe that the Cowboys go undefeated. I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna believe that, I means Chris, Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 6: gonna believe that. I'm not gonna believe that the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: is gonna do what they need to do to be

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Speaker 6: successful like that.

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Speaker 5: Well, that is our draft edition show today.

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Speaker 4: We we gave him an A plus right for the draft.

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Speaker 6: You give them No, he said a B minus and

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Speaker 6: you said a B minus and I said a double plus.

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Speaker 4: So that brings to it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you could tell which one of the three of

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Speaker 5: us actually took their grades seriously in college. I know

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Speaker 5: people gonna say Carolina that you cheat on your whatever.

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Speaker 5: He didn't cheat at Carolina. That's here say. That's here

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Speaker 5: saying about what we get degreed.

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Speaker 7: These do get degreed.

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Speaker 5: That was tutoring, That was I mean whatever.

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Speaker 4: That's my fresh year. I only think I know what

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Speaker 4: the classroom looked like. I gotta go, all.

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Speaker 5: Right, fellas man, let's get up out of here. Uh Kurt,

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Speaker 5: good to have you back, Brother Nate, good to have

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Speaker 5: you here. Chris Audio, Jazz, brother will bro will Brother Ham,

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Speaker 5: William Willot, supportly you the fans. Thank you so much

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Speaker 5: for joining us. Hit us up on Twitter, see us

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Speaker 5: in the streets. Give us a shout out, my Z.

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Speaker 4: My Z stop the run, Baby Mac Trump, Yes.

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Speaker 5: I am see Holly.

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