WEBVTT - Dips, Nuts & Jerky! 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:10.240 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:28.200 Arm Strong and Jackie and he Armstrong and Eddy. 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:32.319 Now, as the President defends his. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.159 Tariffs over on Capitol Hill, the government is engine closer 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.279 to a shutdown after Senate Democrats announced they were nuts enough. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:39.879 I can't hear anymore, and I don't want to lose 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:41.760 a whole audience. Oh, I don't want to lose a 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:44.360 whole audience. My only question on the whole shutdown is 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.239 who's this for? Is it just? 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.200 Who? Are there people that care about? 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:53.559 These shutdown conversations where they talk about it endlessly and 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:56.040 write about it endlessly, and then nothing ever happens. And 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:57.920 even if something does happen, it's for a couple hours 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.440 and nobody ever remembers it. I mean, it just said, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.440 it has no impact on anybody. The only part I 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:07.240 remember is how stupid and phony it is, the efforts 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.280 to gin up people caring about it. Eh yeah, yeah, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.320 I just think you know, all of us lacks self awareness. 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.520 Sometimes the major media is completely Beltway obsessed. 0:01:18.600 --> 0:01:19.360 Oh I was. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:21.839 Watching and don't understand that their audiences are not nearly, 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.000 So I mean, we care, but we're not obsess. I 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.000 flipped on Fox and Friends this morning, and I had 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.440 to keep fast forwarding and fast forwarding and fast forwarding 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.040 to get through I don't know, twenty five minutes of 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.720 government shut down back and forth before he got anything 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:35.960 I could possibly care about. 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:37.600 Who's this for? 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:38.480 All? 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:38.760 Right? 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.360 So you think American politics are screwed up, I need 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.120 to tell you about Filipino politics right now. Later on 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.959 in the hour, if I wrote this into a book 0:01:47.040 --> 0:01:49.320 like a novel, the editor had say, Joe, you got 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.800 to rework that part because it's too crazy. That would 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:55.280 never happen in the modern world. So stay tuned for that, 0:01:55.400 --> 0:02:00.400 if you will. Closer to home, some economic stuff. Oh, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.280 that's right, I wanted to hear. This is Mike Dubkey, 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.000 who's an official with Blackrock, the giant investment firm. He's 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:10.160 among several folks that the Trump administration is trotting out 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.040 to say, Hey, the whole tariff thing, don't be afraid 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:12.240 of it. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:13.560 It's going to pan out fine. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.600 In Donald Trump, We've got a politician that actually is 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:19.360 doing what we claim we've wanted for years. Looking past 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:22.000 the next election, he believes in tariffs. I'm not a 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:25.520 particular fan of these tariffs either, but he's actually putting 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.760 his money where his mouth is and trying to say, look, 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.399 this is a long term solution. We finally have got 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.480 to do it. So either folks are going to get 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.400 behind that and move forward, or we're just going to 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.480 jump back in and create certainty for the markets, but 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.000 that doesn't necessarily create a economy that's going to be 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:45.840 better for the country. 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.120 That's the best spin I've heard, and spins not always 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.320 a negative connotation. It's just you know, your way you're 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.399 portraying meation, Yeah, the way you're portraying the story that, yeah, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.840 everybody's always talking about, we've got to quit just play 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.720 in for the next election, the next midterm or the 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.080 next presidential election. We got think long term on this stuff. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.160 And you know, this is what he's doing. Whether it's 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.120 gonna work or not, I don't know, but he is 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:10.760 definitely playing the long game, right. And I appreciated that 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.680 clip because it's a very armstrong and Getty esque way 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.960 to approach it. New listeners all the time, and we 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:19.720 thank you for being here. I hope you enjoy yourselves. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.959 Who are you listening to before Bongino you miss him? 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.720 Or Glenn Beck? Maybe you're listening to Glenn maybe bon Jovi, 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.200 maybe get tired of music in the car. We replaced 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:30.920 them and ye, and you're probably a little angry about that. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:32.320 But now we're here, and I think if you get 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.560 it from time, as we always say, a little bit time, 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:36.120 you don't like it, give it some more time. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:37.600 Yeah. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.280 But anyway, we're neither never ending cheerleaders for Trump, even 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.520 when he does stuff we think is dumb. Nor are 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.160 we you know, Trump derangement syndrome type. They're just kind 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.560 of calumn as we see him. But I appreciated that 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.760 because he said, look, I don't exactly agree with the 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.000 tariff stuff, but here's what he's doing, and you've got 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.480 to admire that. I wanted to keep my ear out 0:03:56.480 --> 0:04:01.760 for Mike Dubky. I like the cut of his Jibway. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.480 Wait, the whole tariff thing. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.800 I will say this just as a like a sports 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:10.120 analyst talking about you know, they've committed to the passing 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.440 game even though the air two best receivers are injured. 0:04:14.000 --> 0:04:16.520 Trump ran on really. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:22.720 Three things, the border, check, getting rid of the woke stuff, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.440 check as fast as he can. He's doing a good 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.440 job so far. And three and maybe this ought to 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.560 be number one. Prices, inflation, the economy, the hurt in 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.440 your pocketbook. And in the short term at least, he 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.960 is really gambling because there's a very good chance that 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.840 prices are going to rise in the short to medium 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.320 term because the whole tariff thing, which is turning into 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.440 a bit of a trade war. Whether those tariffs stay 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:51.080 in place and for how long hard to say. Well, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.000 his belief is were such the giant four hundred pound 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.560 gorilla that we will win every trade war. 0:04:57.640 --> 0:04:59.080 Isn't that his belief? Over time? 0:04:59.200 --> 0:04:59.360 Yeah? 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.719 Down, Yeah, after a period of disruption, As he said, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.920 there are some captains of industry who are normally very 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:10.200 Trump friendly, who are saying, hey, we make investments that 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.640 pay off in decades, not in quarters or years, and 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.320 we need some level of certainty please. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:17.400 So we'll see. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.679 But that's what Mike Dubkey was saying, that creating certainty 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.200 doesn't necessarily create a better economy over the long term, 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.840 So we'll all find out together. I found this very interesting. 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:34.000 Shoppers are skipping on cigarettes, Doritos, and Twinkies, US convenience 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:37.240 store sales fell four point three percent by volume year 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:43.440 to year February to February. Let's see, according to market 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:47.159 research firms Sircana, among snacks purchased in these stores, rice 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.400 cakes dropped most. 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:49.360 Sharply man. 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:55.360 This is a detailed survey, followed by dips, nuts and jerky. Well, 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:57.120 I noticed the other day when I was buying my 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:01.880 weekly supply of rice cakes how much the price would moved. Well, yeah, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.719 people are buying fewer of them. I like dips, nuts 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:06.839 and jerky. It sounds like, hey, honey, did you like 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.920 the new Men's club you went to the meeting him? 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.040 Please it's a bunch a dips, nuts and jerky. Refrigerated 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:17.000 products dropped by about seven percent by sales volume, which 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.160 is damn significant. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.200 Chocolate candy fell by six percent. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:26.200 The lower but I haven't had an egg in a month, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:30.839 and I'm dying over here. The lower tier of consumers, 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.359 folks with less money, are seriously cutting back on purchases. 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:38.000 Let me navigate over to this, which is a similar tale. 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.080 Is from the Wall Street Journal. Consumer Acts is striking 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:44.359 all income levels signs of weakness or showing up and 0:06:44.400 --> 0:06:48.720 spending on everything from basics to luxuries. This is interesting 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.680 because it was no more than a few weeks ago 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:55.000 we brought you the story that the top ten percent 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.599 of incomes in the United States are driving like fifty 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:03.279 six of consumer spending something like that, way outsized even 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:06.039 by comparison with what's normally going on. And they have 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:08.679 a tendency to spend when the stock market's doing well 0:07:08.800 --> 0:07:11.320 and pull back when it's not, even though it's not 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:15.840 like actually affecting your cash flow today, it's just the 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.560 way you feel. So American consumers, according to the Journal, 0:07:19.600 --> 0:07:21.320 have had a lot to fred about so far this year. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.040 Between never ending tariff headlines. I'm not sure how much 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:29.200 the average consumer, particularly like your bottom twenty percent quintile, 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.080 pays attention to tariff headlines that don't know, stubborn inflation 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:35.720 that's true, and most recently, fresh fears about a recession. 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.360 These concerns seem to be hitting spending by both rich 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:42.440 and poor, across necessities and luxuries all at once. In 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.520 an interview at the Economic Club of Chicago in late February, 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:50.360 Walmart chief executive Doug McMillan, no politician, he I mean, 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.520 that's if you want to know what's going on with 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:54.440 the American consumer. I don't know if you can do 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.680 better than asking the guy from Walmart. He said, budget 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:01.160 pressured customers are showing stressed be behaviors. They are buying 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.360 smaller pack sizes at the end of the month because 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.480 quote their money runs out before the month is gone. Interesting, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.360 McDonald said it's most recent earnings call. In its most 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.520 recent earnings called that the fast food industry has had 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.840 a sluggish start to the year, in part because of 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:18.880 weak demand from low income consumers, and that has echoed 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:23.440 across the US fast food industry. Sales to low income 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.080 guests down by double digit percentage in the fourth quarter 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.440 compared to the previous year. And things don't look much 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.840 better on the higher end American consumers. Spending on the 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.319 luxury market, which includes high end department stores and online platforms, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:39.840 fell nine point three percent in February from a year previous, 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.240 worse than the five point nine percent decline in January. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:48.120 And I was in the Nieman Marcus in Beverly Hills 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:52.199 a couple of weeks ago on my birthday, and. 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.439 Wow, mister fancy over here. 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.520 I looked at some stuff. I didn't buy anything. I 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.000 didn't realize had a like a cafe in there. I 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.800 had a salad. It was one of the best salads 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:04.760 I've ever had. But anyway, oh yeah, place was empty 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.439 and there were so many sales clerks around, and I thought, 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:12.040 how did they turn a profit on a place like 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.840 this when you got like a hundred salespeople just standing 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:17.000 around waiting for a customer to come in and buy 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.840 some really overpriced crap. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.320 It's the anti home depot. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:26.520 Hello, hello, hello, hello, can you help me find this screw? 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:27.679 Ooh ooh. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.400 Well, in a place like Nieman Mark is the sort 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:32.400 of person that goes there. They expect someone to be 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.559 there to help them answer a question immediately. But I 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.160 don't know how you turn a profit on that. And 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.880 you know, and it's down ten percent. God, I would 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.920 think those places you talk about something that's elastic in 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:48.640 terms of purchasing, right, yeah, costco who is membership fee 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.520 paying customer, not pee faing. That's not word fee paying 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.440 customer base scus Higher Income said last week the demand 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.640 has shifted towards lower cost proteins such as ground beef 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:03.840 and poultry. Members are being very choosy, and the Cohle's 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:07.040 CEO said consumers making less than fifty grand a year 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.240 are pretty constrained on discretionary spending, but added quote, it's 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.200 also pretty challenging for those making less than one hundred 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:14.520 grand between fifty one hundred. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.679 Obviously, they just gave. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.520 A Wall Street a weaker than expected sales forecast, so 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.480 I should explain this briefly. You know what I do 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.440 at a place like Neiman Marcus. I try on a 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.600 certain brand of something to see what size I need, 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:33.840 and then I find it on eBay used, whether it's 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:37.360 you know, lightly used by some fashionista who changes what 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:40.559 they wear every three, four or five months, or somebody's 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.640 who's gone to meet God. Yeah, some of it's dead people, 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.920 but yeah, I can't. I don't know who you are 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.600 that buys these things full price, but somebody must. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:51.679 Yeah, I guess so. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.199 The airlines they quote as well that customers are pulling 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:01.640 back on air travel. It could be interesting times economically 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:03.199 ahead for the rest of twenty twenty five. 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.680 I'cy yeah, well, and I guess you know. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:13.600 The point politically is that Trump is gambling with prices 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:19.120 and the economy, perhaps for wonderful long term reasons. We'll 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.560 leave that up to y'all to decide individually, but at 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.080 just the time when things are looking a little shaky. Well, right, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:27.760 I mean he's gambling with his presidency the way he's 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.360 viewed throughout history. And I mean he's not just doing 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:34.880 the easy expedient what's going to make the most people 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.679 happy thing, right, that's for certain. Well, and it's all 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.520 about me, Jack, you know that. And he's also gambling 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.200 with our abilities, conservatives, to get done certain really really 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:46.000 great things. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.080 Because if the Republicans. 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.920 Get murdered in the mid times because the economy has gone, 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:54.840 you know, sideways, that's that's gonna hurt getting rid of 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.040 the DEI and the idiotic regulations at least to some extent. 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:00.240 So I'm you know, I'm rooting forward to work out 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:03.800 for obvious reasons. I'm also a part of the economy. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.160 I'm a consumer as we all are. Russia has said 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.560 no basically to the cease fire deal. I don't know 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.319 where that leaves the world, and a bunch of other 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.960 stuff on the way. 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.600 I've read that the maker of the Room but Vacuum 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.480 has substantial doubt the companies can survive. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.360 Yeah, it's not that the Room but sucked it's just 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:23.600 that it didn't suck enough. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:25.760 Yeah. 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.439 I only tried the first generation room but and did 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.439 not have much success with it, and I haven't tried 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.840 the previous improvements. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:33.480 Maybe they're better. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.000 Yeah, yeah, I had a you know, probably third generation 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.000 something like that is pretty good. There's just so much 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.439 stuff you had to pick up and rearrange your room 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.319 and everything like that to use it. I felt like 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.000 it didn't save me time over just pushing my vacuum around. 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:47.920 Yeah. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.000 I keep threatening to unleash it in a part of 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:51.800 our house where we don't go very often, but I 0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:52.720 haven't done it yet. 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:55.240 And that kind of that's you know, that tells you 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:58.480 everything you need to know. Right, Oh quick, I'm sorry. 0:12:58.520 --> 0:12:59.240 I had one more note. 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.120 I wanted to throw in the economic stuff we were 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:05.200 talking about, and I forgot a great note from Scott 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:10.320 in Beautiful Hillsburg, California. Wednesday's he's talking about the top 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.800 of the hour. Network News reporter Kelly O'Grady did a 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.839 story on the lower than inspected inflation, those numbers that 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.880 came out yesterday, right, and she made sure to point 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:23.240 out that a reduction in inflation doesn't mean a reduction 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:29.200 in prices. Wow, the mainstream media finally suddenly understand understands 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:30.600 how inflation and prices work. 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.480 Where was that reporting for the last four years? 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:38.319 And he did the MSM replace DEI training and trans 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:42.479 messaging with financial training and Jim Kramer reruns that's hilarious. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.080 So when it was Biden, they pretended the rate of 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:46.199 inflation going down. 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.439 Means prices have dropped. Why aren't you happy. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.800 Now it's a Trump You point out, Well, that doesn't 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:53.640 mean the prices okay, all right, Well, and this Scott 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.160 also points out they either knew how it works and 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:00.520 were lying or selectively reporting, or were completely ignorance of 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:01.000 the topic. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:03.199 And suddenly they're they're wise to it. 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:06.920 Please shere about the woman who ran off the road, 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.880 broke so many of her bones and she was trapped 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.280 in her car for an entire week before they found 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.120 her and she's alive. Now that's quite the story. In fact, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.280 that's funny. I mentioned it, and there I se see 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.960 the story up on TV right now. We'll have that 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:23.480 a little bit later. And Russia ain't gonna agree to 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:27.360 a cease fire, I don't think. But I'm texting my 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.080 youngest the other day. My thirteen year old Henry and like, 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:33.440 you know, get ready to go. I'm gonna be home 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.000 in a second. We're gonna go to the grocery store. 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.600 Henry spawns old Kinderhook, which I didn't know what that meant. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.120 Maybe you know what that means, Joe, I don't know. Yeah, okay, 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.480 I didn't know what it meant. Anyway, I said, what 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:45.440 the hell was that? So when I got home, he 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:47.680 explained it to me. It's from an episode of The Simpsons. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:49.640 Well that's not where it originated. That's where he came 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.600 across episode of The Simpsons where people are talking about 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.600 I forget what they're talking about. They're throwing around a 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.840 whole bunch of abbreviations, you know, FBI, CI, C, I, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.920 A ap ar or whatever and Moses. All right, that's it. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.520 No more abbreviations from now on. It's old Kinderhook around here. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:12.680 And okay. Martin Van Buren ran for president in nineteen 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:17.160 forty on okay, old Kinderhook. He was from Kinderhook, New Jersey, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:21.440 New York, where he's from, and it became a thing. Okay, 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.160 as an older Kinderhook, like you know, he's a good 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.440 man of the people, sort of thing. The opposition who 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:29.720 ended up winning. Harrison's campaign used okay to mean the 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.320 way people generally use the word okay, like he's okay. 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.720 His first term was okay, but that's not good enough, 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:40.880 so AnyWho. It became used on both sides of the campaign, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.440 and both shades of meanings survive. How interesting. Yeah, well, 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.040 nobody's exactly sure where okay came from. It could go 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.680 way back to the Greeks or Native Americans. There's a 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:55.080 lot of confusion over where it actually started, but it 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.600 definitely was used as old kinderhook at that time. I 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.200 just thought it was funny that my son hit me 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.560 with that. I had no idea what he was saying. Yeah, yeah, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:09.280 clever lad, old kinderhook And that's a pretty good you know, 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:10.760 you can picture that in modern politics. 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:11.400 That's pretty good. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:18.040 So they try to use an abbreviation, you capture that abbreviation, 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:21.320 turn it into a negative. The Harrison campaign who ended 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.520 up winning, except their candidate was the oldest person ever 0:16:24.600 --> 0:16:28.600 elected president at age sixty eight, and then he gave 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:31.760 his famous speech in the cold and died in a month. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:37.880 But sixty eight, that'd be a young president now. Yeah, No, kidding. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.760 I appreciate Moe's stance. As you know, I'm staunchly against 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:45.080 silent letters. And I'll tell anybody who will listen from 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.840 now it's old kinderhook around here. That's funny. How about 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.320 Putin showing up to the front lines yesterday in military 0:16:53.440 --> 0:16:57.760 garb to cheer on the troops and make it to 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.800 me just ultimately clear that he planned to keep fighting. 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.960 That's the best response is going to be, yeah, oh yeah. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:08.919 Absolutely, yeah, yeah, Well who knows in Filipino politics, Holy 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.240 crapp er, they screwed up. Stick around if you can't 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:13.320 grab the podcast Armstrong and Getting. 0:17:13.000 --> 0:17:17.040 On demand Armstrong and Getty. 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.280 Vladimir Putin said, there is that, first of all, the 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.920 Russians want to kick all of the Ukrainians off their 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:26.280 territory and also create a buffer zone in that area, 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.280 which obviously could take months of combat operations to do so. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.520 The Russians right now feel that they have the edge 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:34.560 on the battlefield and that they are not going to 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.640 be pressured or rushed into any sort of ceasefire agreement. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:42.359 Well, we've finally gotten our first response from Russia after 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.639 Ukraine agreed to the US plan for a cease fire. 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.840 You know, Marco Rubio and both he and the president 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.399 yesterday saying, hey, the ball is in Russia's court. Well, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.280 Russia responded, finally, we'll get to that in a second. 0:17:55.280 --> 0:18:00.399 But yesterday the Russian military took back Sudza. Sudza the 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.840 biggest town held by Ukraine in the Kursk region, which 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:06.600 is in Russia. If you remember, Ukraine had gotten into 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:10.640 Russian taken some of their territory. Well, Russian military took 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.720 back the biggest town after taking several villages, and appears 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.040 to be on the verge of booting all the Ukrainians 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.280 out of any of Russian land. And Putin was there 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:23.840 on the front lines in his military fatigues, acting like 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:28.400 a wartime leader and not acting like a guy who's 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:33.520 looking for a ceasefire. Certainly, and the response to from 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:38.760 a Russian negotiator, senior aide to Vladimir Putin said, this 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.560 is nothing other than a temporary time out for Ukrainian 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.400 soldiers and nothing more. In his rejection of the ceasefire proposal, 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:49.359 our goal is a long term peaceful resolution. Steps that 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:54.840 imitate peaceful actions are not needed through victory, he left 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.800 unspoken right the complete conquest of as much a Ukraine 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:06.240 as we can. Then the you know, demilitarizing of their military. Well, 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.840 also unspoken is the I think we're winning and we're 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.680 gonna win, so why would we stop? And as long 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:14.880 as Kim Jong un is willing to sell us twenty 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.840 year old machine gun fodder, we're we're doing. 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:19.120 Okay, God, that's brutal. 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:28.439 Moscow part of their plan has been Moscow insists on 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.399 keeping it minimum eighteen percent of Ukrainian territory, about the 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:34.919 fifth of the country that they took. It wants to 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:38.640 reverse policies that have sideline Russian cultural influence in Ukraine, 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:42.679 preclude the country's membership from NATO, which has already been 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.119 announced by you know, our second deaf and other people. 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.840 And uh, Zelensky and his government have to go. The 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:57.399 Russian said, which you don't get to decide that. Zelensky 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.560 has said he would step down if it, you know, 0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.159 let piece. But yeah, but the Russians, that's not what 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:06.000 they mean. They want to install a puppet regime, right 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:12.320 or eventually, you know, if not immediately. Uh yeah, Well, 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.760 how do you think this is going to play out? 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.920 So Trump's guy is over there now, somewhere meeting with 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.800 Russians apparently, And how do you think this is going 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:23.320 to play out? Is at any point, at any point 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.240 is the president, Marco Rubio, anything, anybody gonna put any 0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:29.160 pressure on Russian and say, hey, this is a bunch 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:30.159 of crap and you know it. 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:31.640 If you don't, if you. 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.400 Don't, if you don't come up with better, something better 0:20:33.440 --> 0:20:37.600 than that, full sanctions, blah blah blah. 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:38.160 Yeah. 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.560 Well, I can't answer your question because that X, that variable, 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:46.080 that unknown is huge. Now what does Trump slash the 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:47.080 United States do? 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.119 Say? What's the strategy? 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:49.320 Now? 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:51.679 What was you know to those who thought he was 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.640 playing you know, some three to seven dimensional chess by 0:20:55.640 --> 0:21:00.760