1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jackie and he Armstrong and Eddy. 4 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 3: Now, as the President defends his. 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 4: Tariffs over on Capitol Hill, the government is engine closer 6 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 4: to a shutdown after Senate Democrats announced they were nuts enough. 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 5: I can't hear anymore, and I don't want to lose 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 5: a whole audience. Oh, I don't want to lose a 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 5: whole audience. My only question on the whole shutdown is 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 5: who's this for? Is it just? 11 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 3: Who? Are there people that care about? 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 5: These shutdown conversations where they talk about it endlessly and 13 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 5: write about it endlessly, and then nothing ever happens. And 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: even if something does happen, it's for a couple hours 15 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 5: and nobody ever remembers it. I mean, it just said, 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 5: it has no impact on anybody. The only part I 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 5: remember is how stupid and phony it is, the efforts 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 5: to gin up people caring about it. Eh yeah, yeah, 19 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 5: I just think you know, all of us lacks self awareness. 20 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: Sometimes the major media is completely Beltway obsessed. 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: Oh I was. 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 5: Watching and don't understand that their audiences are not nearly, 23 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 5: So I mean, we care, but we're not obsess. I 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 5: flipped on Fox and Friends this morning, and I had 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 5: to keep fast forwarding and fast forwarding and fast forwarding 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 5: to get through I don't know, twenty five minutes of 27 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 5: government shut down back and forth before he got anything 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 5: I could possibly care about. 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: Who's this for? 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: All? 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 3: Right? 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 5: So you think American politics are screwed up, I need 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 5: to tell you about Filipino politics right now. Later on 34 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: in the hour, if I wrote this into a book 35 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 5: like a novel, the editor had say, Joe, you got 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: to rework that part because it's too crazy. That would 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 5: never happen in the modern world. So stay tuned for that, 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: if you will. Closer to home, some economic stuff. Oh, 39 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: that's right, I wanted to hear. This is Mike Dubkey, 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 5: who's an official with Blackrock, the giant investment firm. He's 41 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 5: among several folks that the Trump administration is trotting out 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 5: to say, Hey, the whole tariff thing, don't be afraid 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 5: of it. 44 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 3: It's going to pan out fine. 45 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 6: In Donald Trump, We've got a politician that actually is 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 6: doing what we claim we've wanted for years. Looking past 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 6: the next election, he believes in tariffs. I'm not a 48 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 6: particular fan of these tariffs either, but he's actually putting 49 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 6: his money where his mouth is and trying to say, look, 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 6: this is a long term solution. We finally have got 51 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 6: to do it. So either folks are going to get 52 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 6: behind that and move forward, or we're just going to 53 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 6: jump back in and create certainty for the markets, but 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 6: that doesn't necessarily create a economy that's going to be 55 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 6: better for the country. 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: That's the best spin I've heard, and spins not always 57 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 5: a negative connotation. It's just you know, your way you're 58 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 5: portraying meation, Yeah, the way you're portraying the story that, yeah, 59 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 5: everybody's always talking about, we've got to quit just play 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 5: in for the next election, the next midterm or the 61 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 5: next presidential election. We got think long term on this stuff. 62 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 5: And you know, this is what he's doing. Whether it's 63 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: gonna work or not, I don't know, but he is 64 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 5: definitely playing the long game, right. And I appreciated that 65 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 5: clip because it's a very armstrong and Getty esque way 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 5: to approach it. New listeners all the time, and we 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 5: thank you for being here. I hope you enjoy yourselves. 68 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 5: Who are you listening to before Bongino you miss him? 69 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: Or Glenn Beck? Maybe you're listening to Glenn maybe bon Jovi, 70 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 5: maybe get tired of music in the car. We replaced 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 5: them and ye, and you're probably a little angry about that. 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 5: But now we're here, and I think if you get 73 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 5: it from time, as we always say, a little bit time, 74 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: you don't like it, give it some more time. 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 76 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: But anyway, we're neither never ending cheerleaders for Trump, even 77 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 5: when he does stuff we think is dumb. Nor are 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: we you know, Trump derangement syndrome type. They're just kind 79 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 5: of calumn as we see him. But I appreciated that 80 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: because he said, look, I don't exactly agree with the 81 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 5: tariff stuff, but here's what he's doing, and you've got 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: to admire that. I wanted to keep my ear out 83 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 5: for Mike Dubky. I like the cut of his Jibway. 84 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: Wait, the whole tariff thing. 85 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 5: I will say this just as a like a sports 86 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: analyst talking about you know, they've committed to the passing 87 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: game even though the air two best receivers are injured. 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: Trump ran on really. 89 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 5: Three things, the border, check, getting rid of the woke stuff, 90 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 5: check as fast as he can. He's doing a good 91 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 5: job so far. And three and maybe this ought to 92 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 5: be number one. Prices, inflation, the economy, the hurt in 93 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 5: your pocketbook. And in the short term at least, he 94 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 5: is really gambling because there's a very good chance that 95 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 5: prices are going to rise in the short to medium 96 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 5: term because the whole tariff thing, which is turning into 97 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: a bit of a trade war. Whether those tariffs stay 98 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 5: in place and for how long hard to say. Well, 99 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 5: his belief is were such the giant four hundred pound 100 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 5: gorilla that we will win every trade war. 101 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: Isn't that his belief? Over time? 102 00:04:59,200 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 5: Down, Yeah, after a period of disruption, As he said, 104 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 5: there are some captains of industry who are normally very 105 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: Trump friendly, who are saying, hey, we make investments that 106 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: pay off in decades, not in quarters or years, and 107 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 5: we need some level of certainty please. 108 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: So we'll see. 109 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 5: But that's what Mike Dubkey was saying, that creating certainty 110 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily create a better economy over the long term, 111 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 5: So we'll all find out together. I found this very interesting. 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 5: Shoppers are skipping on cigarettes, Doritos, and Twinkies, US convenience 113 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 5: store sales fell four point three percent by volume year 114 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: to year February to February. Let's see, according to market 115 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 5: research firms Sircana, among snacks purchased in these stores, rice 116 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 5: cakes dropped most. 117 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: Sharply man. 118 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 5: This is a detailed survey, followed by dips, nuts and jerky. Well, 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 5: I noticed the other day when I was buying my 120 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: weekly supply of rice cakes how much the price would moved. Well, yeah, 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 5: people are buying fewer of them. I like dips, nuts 122 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 5: and jerky. It sounds like, hey, honey, did you like 123 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 5: the new Men's club you went to the meeting him? 124 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 5: Please it's a bunch a dips, nuts and jerky. Refrigerated 125 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: products dropped by about seven percent by sales volume, which 126 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 5: is damn significant. 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: Chocolate candy fell by six percent. 128 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 5: The lower but I haven't had an egg in a month, 129 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 5: and I'm dying over here. The lower tier of consumers, 130 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 5: folks with less money, are seriously cutting back on purchases. 131 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 5: Let me navigate over to this, which is a similar tale. 132 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 5: Is from the Wall Street Journal. Consumer Acts is striking 133 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 5: all income levels signs of weakness or showing up and 134 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 5: spending on everything from basics to luxuries. This is interesting 135 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 5: because it was no more than a few weeks ago 136 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: we brought you the story that the top ten percent 137 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 5: of incomes in the United States are driving like fifty 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 5: six of consumer spending something like that, way outsized even 139 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 5: by comparison with what's normally going on. And they have 140 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 5: a tendency to spend when the stock market's doing well 141 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 5: and pull back when it's not, even though it's not 142 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 5: like actually affecting your cash flow today, it's just the 143 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 5: way you feel. So American consumers, according to the Journal, 144 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: have had a lot to fred about so far this year. 145 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: Between never ending tariff headlines. I'm not sure how much 146 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 5: the average consumer, particularly like your bottom twenty percent quintile, 147 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 5: pays attention to tariff headlines that don't know, stubborn inflation 148 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 5: that's true, and most recently, fresh fears about a recession. 149 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: These concerns seem to be hitting spending by both rich 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 5: and poor, across necessities and luxuries all at once. In 151 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: an interview at the Economic Club of Chicago in late February, 152 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 5: Walmart chief executive Doug McMillan, no politician, he I mean, 153 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 5: that's if you want to know what's going on with 154 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 5: the American consumer. I don't know if you can do 155 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 5: better than asking the guy from Walmart. He said, budget 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: pressured customers are showing stressed be behaviors. They are buying 157 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 5: smaller pack sizes at the end of the month because 158 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 5: quote their money runs out before the month is gone. Interesting, 159 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 5: McDonald said it's most recent earnings call. In its most 160 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 5: recent earnings called that the fast food industry has had 161 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 5: a sluggish start to the year, in part because of 162 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 5: weak demand from low income consumers, and that has echoed 163 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 5: across the US fast food industry. Sales to low income 164 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 5: guests down by double digit percentage in the fourth quarter 165 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 5: compared to the previous year. And things don't look much 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: better on the higher end American consumers. Spending on the 167 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 5: luxury market, which includes high end department stores and online platforms, 168 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 5: fell nine point three percent in February from a year previous, 169 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: worse than the five point nine percent decline in January. 170 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 5: And I was in the Nieman Marcus in Beverly Hills 171 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago on my birthday, and. 172 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 3: Wow, mister fancy over here. 173 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 5: I looked at some stuff. I didn't buy anything. I 174 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 5: didn't realize had a like a cafe in there. I 175 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 5: had a salad. It was one of the best salads 176 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 5: I've ever had. But anyway, oh yeah, place was empty 177 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 5: and there were so many sales clerks around, and I thought, 178 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: how did they turn a profit on a place like 179 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 5: this when you got like a hundred salespeople just standing 180 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 5: around waiting for a customer to come in and buy 181 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 5: some really overpriced crap. 182 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 3: It's the anti home depot. 183 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 5: Hello, hello, hello, hello, can you help me find this screw? 184 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: Ooh ooh. 185 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 5: Well, in a place like Nieman Mark is the sort 186 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 5: of person that goes there. They expect someone to be 187 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 5: there to help them answer a question immediately. But I 188 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: don't know how you turn a profit on that. And 189 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 5: you know, and it's down ten percent. God, I would 190 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 5: think those places you talk about something that's elastic in 191 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: terms of purchasing, right, yeah, costco who is membership fee 192 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: paying customer, not pee faing. That's not word fee paying 193 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 5: customer base scus Higher Income said last week the demand 194 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: has shifted towards lower cost proteins such as ground beef 195 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 5: and poultry. Members are being very choosy, and the Cohle's 196 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 5: CEO said consumers making less than fifty grand a year 197 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 5: are pretty constrained on discretionary spending, but added quote, it's 198 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 5: also pretty challenging for those making less than one hundred 199 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: grand between fifty one hundred. 200 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 3: Obviously, they just gave. 201 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 5: A Wall Street a weaker than expected sales forecast, so 202 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 5: I should explain this briefly. You know what I do 203 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 5: at a place like Neiman Marcus. I try on a 204 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: certain brand of something to see what size I need, 205 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: and then I find it on eBay used, whether it's 206 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: you know, lightly used by some fashionista who changes what 207 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 5: they wear every three, four or five months, or somebody's 208 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: who's gone to meet God. Yeah, some of it's dead people, 209 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: but yeah, I can't. I don't know who you are 210 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: that buys these things full price, but somebody must. 211 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess so. 212 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 5: The airlines they quote as well that customers are pulling 213 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 5: back on air travel. It could be interesting times economically 214 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 5: ahead for the rest of twenty twenty five. 215 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: I'cy yeah, well, and I guess you know. 216 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 5: The point politically is that Trump is gambling with prices 217 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: and the economy, perhaps for wonderful long term reasons. We'll 218 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 5: leave that up to y'all to decide individually, but at 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 5: just the time when things are looking a little shaky. Well, right, 220 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 5: I mean he's gambling with his presidency the way he's 221 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 5: viewed throughout history. And I mean he's not just doing 222 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: the easy expedient what's going to make the most people 223 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 5: happy thing, right, that's for certain. Well, and it's all 224 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 5: about me, Jack, you know that. And he's also gambling 225 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 5: with our abilities, conservatives, to get done certain really really 226 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 5: great things. 227 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 3: Because if the Republicans. 228 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 5: Get murdered in the mid times because the economy has gone, 229 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 5: you know, sideways, that's that's gonna hurt getting rid of 230 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 5: the DEI and the idiotic regulations at least to some extent. 231 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 5: So I'm you know, I'm rooting forward to work out 232 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 5: for obvious reasons. I'm also a part of the economy. 233 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 5: I'm a consumer as we all are. Russia has said 234 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 5: no basically to the cease fire deal. I don't know 235 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 5: where that leaves the world, and a bunch of other 236 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 5: stuff on the way. 237 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 4: I've read that the maker of the Room but Vacuum 238 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 4: has substantial doubt the companies can survive. 239 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not that the Room but sucked it's just 240 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 5: that it didn't suck enough. 241 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 242 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 5: I only tried the first generation room but and did 243 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 5: not have much success with it, and I haven't tried 244 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 5: the previous improvements. 245 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: Maybe they're better. 246 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I had a you know, probably third generation 247 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 5: something like that is pretty good. There's just so much 248 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 5: stuff you had to pick up and rearrange your room 249 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 5: and everything like that to use it. I felt like 250 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: it didn't save me time over just pushing my vacuum around. 251 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 252 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 5: I keep threatening to unleash it in a part of 253 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 5: our house where we don't go very often, but I 254 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: haven't done it yet. 255 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 3: And that kind of that's you know, that tells you 256 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: everything you need to know. Right, Oh quick, I'm sorry. 257 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: I had one more note. 258 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 5: I wanted to throw in the economic stuff we were 259 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 5: talking about, and I forgot a great note from Scott 260 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 5: in Beautiful Hillsburg, California. Wednesday's he's talking about the top 261 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 5: of the hour. Network News reporter Kelly O'Grady did a 262 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 5: story on the lower than inspected inflation, those numbers that 263 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 5: came out yesterday, right, and she made sure to point 264 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: out that a reduction in inflation doesn't mean a reduction 265 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 5: in prices. Wow, the mainstream media finally suddenly understand understands 266 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 5: how inflation and prices work. 267 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: Where was that reporting for the last four years? 268 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 5: And he did the MSM replace DEI training and trans 269 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,479 Speaker 5: messaging with financial training and Jim Kramer reruns that's hilarious. 270 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 5: So when it was Biden, they pretended the rate of 271 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 5: inflation going down. 272 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: Means prices have dropped. Why aren't you happy. 273 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 5: Now it's a Trump You point out, Well, that doesn't 274 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 5: mean the prices okay, all right, Well, and this Scott 275 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 5: also points out they either knew how it works and 276 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: were lying or selectively reporting, or were completely ignorance of 277 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 5: the topic. 278 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 3: And suddenly they're they're wise to it. 279 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 5: Please shere about the woman who ran off the road, 280 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 5: broke so many of her bones and she was trapped 281 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 5: in her car for an entire week before they found 282 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 5: her and she's alive. Now that's quite the story. In fact, 283 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 5: that's funny. I mentioned it, and there I se see 284 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 5: the story up on TV right now. We'll have that 285 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 5: a little bit later. And Russia ain't gonna agree to 286 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 5: a cease fire, I don't think. But I'm texting my 287 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 5: youngest the other day. My thirteen year old Henry and like, 288 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 5: you know, get ready to go. I'm gonna be home 289 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 5: in a second. We're gonna go to the grocery store. 290 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 5: Henry spawns old Kinderhook, which I didn't know what that meant. 291 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 5: Maybe you know what that means, Joe, I don't know. Yeah, okay, 292 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 5: I didn't know what it meant. Anyway, I said, what 293 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 5: the hell was that? So when I got home, he 294 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: explained it to me. It's from an episode of The Simpsons. 295 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 5: Well that's not where it originated. That's where he came 296 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 5: across episode of The Simpsons where people are talking about 297 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 5: I forget what they're talking about. They're throwing around a 298 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 5: whole bunch of abbreviations, you know, FBI, CI, C, I, 299 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 5: A ap ar or whatever and Moses. All right, that's it. 300 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 5: No more abbreviations from now on. It's old Kinderhook around here. 301 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 5: And okay. Martin Van Buren ran for president in nineteen 302 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: forty on okay, old Kinderhook. He was from Kinderhook, New Jersey, 303 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: New York, where he's from, and it became a thing. Okay, 304 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 5: as an older Kinderhook, like you know, he's a good 305 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 5: man of the people, sort of thing. The opposition who 306 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: ended up winning. Harrison's campaign used okay to mean the 307 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: way people generally use the word okay, like he's okay. 308 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 5: His first term was okay, but that's not good enough, 309 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: so AnyWho. It became used on both sides of the campaign, 310 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: and both shades of meanings survive. How interesting. Yeah, well, 311 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 5: nobody's exactly sure where okay came from. It could go 312 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 5: way back to the Greeks or Native Americans. There's a 313 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 5: lot of confusion over where it actually started, but it 314 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 5: definitely was used as old kinderhook at that time. I 315 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 5: just thought it was funny that my son hit me 316 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 5: with that. I had no idea what he was saying. Yeah, yeah, 317 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: clever lad, old kinderhook And that's a pretty good you know, 318 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 5: you can picture that in modern politics. 319 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 320 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 5: So they try to use an abbreviation, you capture that abbreviation, 321 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 5: turn it into a negative. The Harrison campaign who ended 322 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 5: up winning, except their candidate was the oldest person ever 323 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 5: elected president at age sixty eight, and then he gave 324 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 5: his famous speech in the cold and died in a month. 325 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 5: But sixty eight, that'd be a young president now. Yeah, No, kidding. 326 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 5: I appreciate Moe's stance. As you know, I'm staunchly against 327 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 5: silent letters. And I'll tell anybody who will listen from 328 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 5: now it's old kinderhook around here. That's funny. How about 329 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 5: Putin showing up to the front lines yesterday in military 330 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 5: garb to cheer on the troops and make it to 331 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 5: me just ultimately clear that he planned to keep fighting. 332 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 3: That's the best response is going to be, yeah, oh yeah. 333 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 5: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, Well who knows in Filipino politics, Holy 334 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 5: crapp er, they screwed up. Stick around if you can't 335 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 5: grab the podcast Armstrong and Getting. 336 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: On demand Armstrong and Getty. 337 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 7: Vladimir Putin said, there is that, first of all, the 338 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 7: Russians want to kick all of the Ukrainians off their 339 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 7: territory and also create a buffer zone in that area, 340 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 7: which obviously could take months of combat operations to do so. 341 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 7: The Russians right now feel that they have the edge 342 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 7: on the battlefield and that they are not going to 343 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 7: be pressured or rushed into any sort of ceasefire agreement. 344 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 5: Well, we've finally gotten our first response from Russia after 345 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: Ukraine agreed to the US plan for a cease fire. 346 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 5: You know, Marco Rubio and both he and the president 347 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 5: yesterday saying, hey, the ball is in Russia's court. Well, 348 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 5: Russia responded, finally, we'll get to that in a second. 349 00:17:55,280 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 5: But yesterday the Russian military took back Sudza. Sudza the 350 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 5: biggest town held by Ukraine in the Kursk region, which 351 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 5: is in Russia. If you remember, Ukraine had gotten into 352 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 5: Russian taken some of their territory. Well, Russian military took 353 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 5: back the biggest town after taking several villages, and appears 354 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 5: to be on the verge of booting all the Ukrainians 355 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 5: out of any of Russian land. And Putin was there 356 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: on the front lines in his military fatigues, acting like 357 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 5: a wartime leader and not acting like a guy who's 358 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 5: looking for a ceasefire. Certainly, and the response to from 359 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: a Russian negotiator, senior aide to Vladimir Putin said, this 360 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: is nothing other than a temporary time out for Ukrainian 361 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 5: soldiers and nothing more. In his rejection of the ceasefire proposal, 362 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 5: our goal is a long term peaceful resolution. Steps that 363 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 5: imitate peaceful actions are not needed through victory, he left 364 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 5: unspoken right the complete conquest of as much a Ukraine 365 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 5: as we can. Then the you know, demilitarizing of their military. Well, 366 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 5: also unspoken is the I think we're winning and we're 367 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 5: gonna win, so why would we stop? And as long 368 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 5: as Kim Jong un is willing to sell us twenty 369 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: year old machine gun fodder, we're we're doing. 370 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 3: Okay, God, that's brutal. 371 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 5: Moscow part of their plan has been Moscow insists on 372 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 5: keeping it minimum eighteen percent of Ukrainian territory, about the 373 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 5: fifth of the country that they took. It wants to 374 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 5: reverse policies that have sideline Russian cultural influence in Ukraine, 375 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 5: preclude the country's membership from NATO, which has already been 376 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 5: announced by you know, our second deaf and other people. 377 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 5: And uh, Zelensky and his government have to go. The 378 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 5: Russian said, which you don't get to decide that. Zelensky 379 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 5: has said he would step down if it, you know, 380 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 5: let piece. But yeah, but the Russians, that's not what 381 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 5: they mean. They want to install a puppet regime, right 382 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 5: or eventually, you know, if not immediately. Uh yeah, Well, 383 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 5: how do you think this is going to play out? 384 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 5: So Trump's guy is over there now, somewhere meeting with 385 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 5: Russians apparently, And how do you think this is going 386 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: to play out? Is at any point, at any point 387 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 5: is the president, Marco Rubio, anything, anybody gonna put any 388 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 5: pressure on Russian and say, hey, this is a bunch 389 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 5: of crap and you know it. 390 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 3: If you don't, if you. 391 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 5: Don't, if you don't come up with better, something better 392 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 5: than that, full sanctions, blah blah blah. 393 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 394 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 5: Well, I can't answer your question because that X, that variable, 395 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 5: that unknown is huge. Now what does Trump slash the 396 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 5: United States do? 397 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: Say? What's the strategy? 398 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: Now? 399 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 5: What was you know to those who thought he was 400 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 5: playing you know, some three to seven dimensional chess by 401 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 5: beating up Zelenski, perhaps with Zelenski's permission, to bring Putin 402 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 5: to the table, et cetera, et cetera. I have no 403 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 5: idea what the next step is. Putin and I've been 404 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 5: saying this from the beginning, has no intention of a 405 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 5: peace settlement. At this point. He's on the front foot, 406 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: he's gaining ground. It would be insane for him to 407 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 5: come to the table unless he is forced to the table. 408 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: And whether there's the will to do that remains to 409 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 5: be seen. Right now we heard those economic stats yesterday 410 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 5: about Russia which are pretty horrible forty percent inflation and 411 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 5: a variety of things. But you don't know what to 412 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 5: what extent Putin's being short up by China or will 413 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 5: be shored up by China or Iran or whoever is 414 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 5: willing to help him out. Well, and because we have 415 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 5: a at least semi rational form of government and elections, 416 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 5: I think Americans tend to underestimate the extent to which 417 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 5: foreign leader dictators specifically can be not entirely rational. And 418 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 5: I don't mean psycho, but like when we found out 419 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 5: Shijin Ping is a committed communist. He's not pretending to be, 420 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 5: because that holds the country together, the communist part of it. No, 421 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 5: he believes in communism Stalin. You know, certainly the early 422 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 5: leaders of the Soviet Union, they thought they were right 423 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 5: about you know, Marxism in the history of mankind and 424 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah blah, and potent actually has Tsarist 425 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 5: impulses to reassemble the greatness of the Russian Empire. 426 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: I believe that firmly. 427 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: And for those of you who don't want us to 428 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 5: be involved in Ukraine and think it's not our business. 429 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 5: I just feel like World War three is more likely 430 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: if we had forced Zelensky into peace and Russia, you know, 431 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: they're just kind of regroup and then try to take 432 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 5: another chunk of Ukraine or the whole thing right well, 433 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 5: one hundred percent, or one of the Baltic states. 434 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 3: In China. 435 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 5: Speaking of China, Jian Ping's doing the same thing, constantly 436 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 5: probing for weakness in the sea, on land all over 437 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 5: Asia and the and the oceans in that part of 438 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 5: the world. Every single day, he has his navy, his armies, 439 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 5: his secret agents, whatever, probing to see what the reaction 440 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 5: of the Western world is going to be, and pushing 441 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 5: and pushing and pushing. And you know, you need not 442 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 5: be a PhD in history to understand. When people like 443 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: that find weakness, they thrust. They don't say oh sorry, no, 444 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: they go as far as they can, as fast as 445 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 5: they can. The withdrawal I'll see, here we go. You're 446 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 5: a neo Khan here egg. You're an old Boomer generation, 447 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 5: actually bastards. I'm a boomer. Anyway, there is a fantasy. 448 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying we can't have a transition to 449 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: a different world order because the world order is always changing, 450 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 5: and I have a pretty open mind about this stuff. 451 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 3: But the one thing that bothers me about some of. 452 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 5: The new more isolationist spheres of influence, conservatives, whatever you 453 00:23:54,000 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: want to call them, is they have an incredibly naive 454 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: view in my mind, Talk me out of it if 455 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 5: you can, that the withdrawal of American power will lead 456 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 5: to some sort of calm neutrality. Yep, a lot of people, 457 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 5: as opposed to a mad, feverish rush to fill that 458 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 5: vacuum with the lusts of evildoers, be they putin or 459 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 5: oshesion PingER, Kim Jong Uhner, the mull isn't freaking around. 460 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 5: We're trying to get the nukes as fast as they anyway. Yeah, man, 461 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 5: I heard a good podcast the other day. If people 462 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: making the argument, I never looked at it this way before. 463 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 5: But the whole we pay for everything, We pay for 464 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 5: the UN, we pay for the WHO, we pay for NATO. 465 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 5: You know, we're none of these organizations would be anything 466 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 5: without us, because we support so much of them. Is 467 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 5: to our advantage in that we get to call the shots. 468 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 5: So I mean, it's expensive and it's you know, unfair. 469 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: Using my finger quotes in a certain way that we 470 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 5: provide the uh, you know, we we we are the 471 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 5: teeth and NATO and everything like that, but we get 472 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 5: to call the shots that way. And if we're eny 473 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 5: of us the greatest economy and history of. 474 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: The world anyway. 475 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 5: One more, A little piece of news here from the 476 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 5: New York Times on what happened yesterday. The loss of 477 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 5: Ukraine's toe hold and Kursk, where at one point it 478 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 5: had captured in Ary roughly the size of Los Angeles, 479 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: would mark a significant defeat for Kiev. Russia has thrown 480 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 5: enormous resources into the campaign to recapture its territory, deploying 481 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 5: North Korean troops and staging daring operations. One unit crawled 482 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 5: through a disused section of natural Geist's gas pipeline this 483 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 5: week to outflank Ukrainian troops defending that big city, with 484 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 5: several dying of methane poisoning, according to pro Kremlin war bloggers, 485 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 5: while they had North Koreans crawling through gas pipes to 486 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 5: come up behind the Ukrainian troops, Yeah wow, You know, 487 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: dying of methane poisoning is probably a better fate than 488 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 5: they would have enjoyed if they'd emerged from the other 489 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 5: end of the pipe. Right, God, dang it, it's almost 490 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 5: hard to believe that this still exists on planet Earth. 491 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 5: In the air twenty twenty five. You know, human nature 492 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 5: doesn't change. But he got like you said, these twenty 493 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 5: year old North Koreans who at the point of a 494 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 5: gun are just being safe. Run that way, but they're 495 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 5: shooting machine guns of me. 496 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 2: Run that way. 497 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 5: Anyway, or I'm gonna shoot you here. Would you rather 498 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 5: be shot over there? Shot over here, and then crawl 499 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: through this pipe? 500 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: Where's it go? I don't know find out. Yeah. God, 501 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 3: that's brutal. 502 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 5: It's the Russian tradition going back hundreds. It is, It 503 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 5: absolutely is. Young men exist to die in war. One 504 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 5: more thing before we take a break. Volleyball practice last night, 505 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 5: my son's volleyball team. I wasn't there, but guy's knee 506 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 5: popped out of its socket. Oh my right, he said. 507 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: It was pretty gruesome to see high school high school. Yeah, 508 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 5: a dislocated knee, Yeah, he said. It was just like 509 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 5: nobody could look at it and everybody was like, oh, 510 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 5: I got an immediately called nine one one, and you know, yeah, 511 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 5: have they gotten a dude on the team. I'm sorry, 512 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,479 Speaker 5: I mean a transgender. Oh they are that wouldn't work. No, 513 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 5: they're all dudes. 514 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that doesn't work the other way, which is funny, 515 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 3: isn't it. Huh huh? But ooh, that is maybe an adult, 516 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: youngish looking twenty four year old. 517 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: I don't want to see somebody's knees sticking out. 518 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 3: He said. 519 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 5: It was just amazing, how far out of where it 520 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 5: should be. 521 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 3: I don't even want to hear. I know when he 522 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: was telling me about it, I was getting light. 523 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess that was the end of practice. They 524 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 5: shut down practice after that. And it's not like volleyball, 525 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 5: is you know, football? You don't expect that sort of thing. Well, no, no, indeed, 526 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 5: can we talk about something else. We're going to have 527 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 5: to institute a program of I approve these little tests 528 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 5: from real life in advance. That's disgusting, you know, grewesome 529 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 5: football injury or whatever that they show three times on 530 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 5: the telecast. 531 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 3: I won't. I don't look either. Why would I want 532 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 3: to see that. I have no interest in him, though, 533 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: But somebody likes it. Most people must like it, because 534 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: that can't be can it. Yeah? 535 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 5: Most people want to see you. 536 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're crazy high dollar football telecasts. They know what 537 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 3: their audience wants. They study it carefully. 538 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 5: Remember the most famous injury and no football television. 539 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to not have my approval to bring 540 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: it up. 541 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 5: I'm not going to talk about what happened, but just 542 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 5: the the coverage of it. 543 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: Joe th Eisman, which I've never seen. 544 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 5: He was a quarterback and he got hurt, and they 545 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: just replayed it over and over and over again, and 546 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 5: there was a lot of pushback after that. I'm like, 547 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 5: why did you keep showing this awful injury over and 548 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 5: over again? And but it doesn't seem to have slowed 549 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 5: down the media. They still do that. See right there 550 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 5: where he plants his foot. Yeah, I get it. 551 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: I broken leg, Yes, yes, I get it. Why are 552 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: you showing me this? 553 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 2: Dah? 554 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: All right, that's enough of that. Oh, so you think 555 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: our politics are screwed up? 556 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 5: You're gonna think I'm making up what I'm about to 557 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 5: tell you about politics in the Philippines, And this is 558 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 5: one of our most important allies in the region. 559 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: Oof. 560 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 5: I mean, can you imagine, like you know, whenever you've 561 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 5: accidentally hurt yourself, why would you ever want to see 562 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 5: a video of that in slow motion never never anyway, 563 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 5: stay tuned. 564 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: Arm Strong and do you know who she is? 565 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: Do you know who she is? 566 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: It is you better off get better off not knowing. 567 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 5: So that's Trump in the Oval office with the do 568 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 5: they have a prime minister in Ireland? There's a fancy 569 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: Irish urn for it, but yeah, that's what he is, 570 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 5: and saying you know because Rose Odonnald moved to Ireland 571 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 5: because of Trump whatever. 572 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: And put out a statement saying she's going to stay. Well, 573 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 3: do we have it? We have it handy right twelve Michael. 574 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 4: Mayor in Ireland and it's beautiful and warm, not physically 575 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: it's actually quite cold. Moved here in January fifteenth, and. 576 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 3: It's been pretty wonderful. 577 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: And when you know it is safe for all citizens 578 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: to have equal rights there in America, that's when we 579 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: will consider coming back. 580 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 5: And is that over the alleged transphobia? Trump cracking down? 581 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: Oh, I'd listen to. 582 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 5: Gay marriage will be over, that's right, transgender people hunting 583 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 5: down in the streets by the secret police or something. 584 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 5: NPR had a feature yesterday on Mayor's fighting back against 585 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 5: the Trump administration. I think this mayor was Cincinnati from 586 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: Cincinnati they had on He talked about how we immediately 587 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 5: before the inauguration had an emergency five hundred thousand dollars 588 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 5: infusion to transgender youth to protect I thought half a 589 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 5: million dollars you found somewhere from an emergency injection into 590 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 5: shoring up transgender youth. 591 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: Whatever the hell that means, handing it out to your cronies, 592 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: that's what it means. 593 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 5: Oh my god. An NPR was just so happy that 594 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 5: that happened. Unbelievable. Cincinnati used to be such a sane, 595 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 5: nice conservative city. Anyway, So Rosie O'Donnell is in Ireland. 596 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 5: Enjoy our delusional cast offs Ireland and we got this 597 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 5: note from b I wonder if Rosie's okay with the 598 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: abortion laws in Ireland up to twelve weeks wow, only 599 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 5: beyond that if the mother's health is in serious question. 600 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 5: According to amneste dot Org, four thousand women leave for 601 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 5: England annually to get an abortion. Since Rosie's so concerned 602 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 5: about freedom, wonder how she squares this. It's as if 603 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 5: she's a dip ass who doesn't know what she's talking about. 604 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 5: Very crazy anyway, speaking of fur and lands and their 605 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 5: odd laws, the Philippines. You're familiar with the history of 606 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,719 Speaker 5: our relationship with them, key in World War two. MacArthur, 607 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 5: I will return baton Deathmarch, all sorts of bases, their 608 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 5: US military bases there. It's a huge strategic asset for 609 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 5: the United States, very close to China. Indeed, China is 610 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 5: bullying the heck out of the Philippines recently, and I've 611 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 5: been rooting for the Philippines and AUS to back them up. Anyway, 612 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 5: here's what's going on politics wise. Do you remember hearing 613 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 5: about r Rego to Terte, their old president who announced 614 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 5: this war on drugs, and he initially was very popular, 615 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 5: but he sent his goon squads forth, some in uniform, 616 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 5: some not to seek out anybody who's selling drugs, doing drugs, 617 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 5: looked at drugs whatever, and depends who you ask. At 618 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 5: least ten thousand people were killed in extra judicial killings, 619 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 5: and maybe a couple of tens of thousands, again depending 620 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 5: who you asked. He just was killing anybody he thought 621 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 5: had anything to do with drugs or was kind of 622 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 5: inconvenient to his regime. Well, I I was going to say, 623 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 5: do we believe that he was just like obsessed with 624 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 5: the drug problem? Or where was it just a cover 625 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 5: to take out anybody you wanted. It's hard to picture 626 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 5: somebody who is sincerely interested in the health and safety 627 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 5: of his people and willing to conduct ten to twenty 628 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: thousand extra judicial murders. No trial, no hearing, no warrant, 629 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 5: no nothing, just gunning people down in the streets. 630 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: Anyway, So you got him. 631 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: He's out of office now, and they just took him 632 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 5: into custody at the behest of the International Criminal Court, 633 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 5: which we the United States ignores because of his crimes 634 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 5: against humanity allegedly what we were just talking about. So, 635 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 5: the guy who's now president has a great nickname, Ferdinand 636 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 5: Bong Bong Marcos. I don't know if he's just really 637 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 5: into the gang or if it's some Philippine nickname, but anyway, yeah, exactly, 638 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 5: he is the grandson I think of the longtime dictator 639 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 5: Ferdinand Marcos of the Philippines and Emmel de Marcos with 640 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 5: his seven thousand pairs of shoes and all that. 641 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: He's their grandson. 642 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 5: His vice president is Sarah Duterte, the daughter of Rodrigo 643 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 5: du Terte, who committed all those killings and was just 644 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 5: taken into custody. So tensions have been building for months 645 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 5: between the president and vice president, who are the two 646 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 5: big powerful families. Powerful families are an ugly, stupid thing 647 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 5: in a democracy, you don't want that. But anyway, she 648 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 5: was starting to say that she fears for her safety 649 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 5: because she thinks the president, the current guys goon squads 650 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 5: are going to take her out. So at a mid 651 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 5: morning news conference and how did this not make the 652 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 5: news much? In November, she said she had asked a 653 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 5: hit man to assassinate the president, along with his wife 654 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 5: and the speaker of the country's House of Representatives. I said, 655 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 5: do not stop until you kill them all, and he said, yes, 656 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 5: it's all hired, it's all arranged. If I disappear, he's 657 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 5: going to take out your whole family. That's the vice 658 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 5: president to the president. 659 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 3: Wow, holy crap. 660 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 5: So I've been following a little of the trial of 661 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 5: the old guy who was killing all these people because 662 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 5: he was pushing people out of helicopters and all kinds 663 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 5: of crazy stes. Oh yeah, that was his favorite way 664 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 5: to get rid of people because there's no paper trailer evidence. 665 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 5: You just take him up in a helicopter and push 666 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 5: him into the ocean. Now, his daughter's the VEEP and 667 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 5: threatening to rub out the president if anything happens to her. So, 668 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 5: you know, as Chuck Schumer is lying and trying to 669 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 5: start a government shut down, and they're a clapping bag. 670 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: Jd Van says this, it could be worse. Buy your 671 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 3: champagne today. 672 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 5: Two hundred percent tariffs according to Trump, among other things 673 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 5: we'll talk about in an hour. 674 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 3: Three Suck Reflue Armstrong, and Geeddy