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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 2: With on our radio.

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Speaker 3: It's Almost Famous podcast, and we're back for another Frankie Friday,

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Speaker 3: the day we round up all the latest news on

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Speaker 3: Taylor Frankie Paul.

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Speaker 2: Today.

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Speaker 3: I'm really excited to be in Carmel, California and joined

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Speaker 3: by one of the most beautiful, kind and considerate humans

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Speaker 3: to ever walk through the Bachelor franchise. And she Mary Dean,

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Speaker 3: which is still confusing to me.

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Speaker 4: Kaylin Bell, Hello and nice intro.

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Speaker 3: Uh okay, So I just for listeners out there as

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Speaker 3: we get this started. Frankie Friday has been a huge hit,

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Speaker 3: but they're used to Ashley breaking down these headlines. Ashley

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Speaker 3: has taken it upon herself to really dig into Taylor

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Speaker 3: Frankie Paul's life. How familiar are you with Taylor Frankie Paul?

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Speaker 1: I feel like so, I've watched all of the seasons.

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Speaker 1: How many are there too?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh, your way ahead of both of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel well versed in that sense. I

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Speaker 1: haven't really kept up with her since she's stopped filming

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Speaker 1: The Bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: Are you Are you excited about her getting announced as

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Speaker 3: the Bachelorette?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think we desperately needed a shake up.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 4: This is definitely.

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Speaker 1: Shaking up what we know, so I'm excited to see

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Speaker 1: see how it goes. It's also so interesting that she

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Speaker 1: was filming TikTok's the entire time she was filming.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole new landscape for the child.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they allowed her access to her life while she

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Speaker 3: was on the show.

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Speaker 1: And filming with guys that she's on dates with. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's one she was on a football field, like holding

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Speaker 1: someone's hand.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's.

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Speaker 3: Interesting and I actually don't know this is a good

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Speaker 3: point to kind of kick us off. I actually don't

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Speaker 3: know now if it helped the show much at all.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think they did it because they wanted

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Speaker 3: people talking about it, and I do think people were

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Speaker 3: talking about it. But I still think the most important

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Speaker 3: thing they can do is make the season great because

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Speaker 3: so many fans of The Bachelor at and Bachelor aren't

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Speaker 3: really following people on social media. They might be older,

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Speaker 3: you know, they might just watch the show for entertainment.

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Speaker 3: So I don't actually know if giving her access to

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Speaker 3: her phone like spiked the interest in this season. I

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Speaker 3: think it was already going to be something people are

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it was necessary, but I do

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Speaker 1: think what we loved, you know, like your season old

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Speaker 1: school seasons is the messiness and it's I just feel.

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Speaker 4: Like it's going to be messy.

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Speaker 2: Oh. I agree.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be like the I think

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Speaker 3: it will feel like a throwback season where people are

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Speaker 3: like grown men are weeping. Yeah, they're crying, they're frustrated.

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Speaker 3: We need that again, we need investment from everybody involved. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And the one thing we've learned about Taylor Frankie Paul

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Speaker 3: along the way so far is that she will invest

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Speaker 3: think that's going to make for a great season. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's kick it off with some of the headlines that

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Speaker 3: Taylor Frankie Paul wonders if she's worthy of love in

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Speaker 3: the first promo for The Bachelorette Season twenty two. The

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Speaker 3: promo was recently released. You can go out and watch

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Speaker 3: it or google it and find it. The quote here

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Speaker 3: is she's questioning if she's worthy of love.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just think It's very interesting to have someone who's

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Speaker 1: People have followed her on TikTok and we've seen her

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Speaker 1: I just I'm so curious about this season. We've seen

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Speaker 4: So it makes sense that she's questioning this.

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Speaker 3: When you say family, we've had her her mom on

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Speaker 1: There is one episode where they're sitting down and her

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Speaker 3: So Dakota kind of has a team. Yeah, we're speaking

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Speaker 3: of Dakota. His new girlfriend slams Taylor, Frankie Paul and

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Speaker 3: the comments underneath the official Bachelor at Instagram. So this

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Speaker 3: promo is released again, you go out and watch it.

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Speaker 3: Ashley did a whole breakdown of the trailer that you

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Speaker 3: can kind of go listen to on the almost famous

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Speaker 3: going on in the trailer. But Dakota's girlfriend takes it

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Speaker 3: it's that feels messy already. I mean I saw this

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Speaker 3: this morning, Taylem.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just looking at it for the first time too.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's already so messy, Like this is just insane,

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Speaker 3: I don't know her comment is this This isn't going

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Speaker 3: it can't wait for Bachelor Nation to find out their

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Speaker 3: bachelorette is actually the one there for the wrong reasons.

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Speaker 1: But okay, it's just like that, it's such an old

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm with you. Yeah, I mean, let's be honest.

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Speaker 3: I don't think Taylor Frankie Paul signed up to be

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Speaker 3: the Bachelorette only for the idea that she could find love, right,

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Speaker 3: And I think we're okay with that.

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Speaker 1: But everyone on the show, you know, like that's been

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Speaker 3: I mean I think most people would say, hey, this

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Speaker 3: to Taylor Frankie Paul's reasoning. Right, great, it's really good

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Speaker 3: for her career, puts her out there, and if she

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Speaker 3: doesn't mean when you're not there for the right reasons,

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Speaker 3: Like if you go onto the show thinking I am

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Speaker 2: I think it works sometimes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know if I don't know

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Speaker 3: if there's a fair argument, Like you said, when you're

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Speaker 3: not there for the right reasons, is my point. I

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Speaker 3: and I hope she finds love on this season. I

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Speaker 1: We need it, we really desperately need it, we do.

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting too, the wrong reason stuff. Again, we've

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Speaker 1: Dina Katz to be on Dancing with the Stars, like

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Speaker 1: we see all this in the show. So to say

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Speaker 1: I don't really know, but I think it's just fun.

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Speaker 3: It's just another thing for her to say yes to.

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Speaker 3: And the way the show is set up. If she

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Speaker 3: what we know is we're gonna watch good television. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and ultimately both those are wins. She fine love she couldn't,

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Speaker 3: We need to be entertained. I want to This isn't

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Speaker 3: a headline here, Kaylin, But because you'd have watched The

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Speaker 2: If I think about my now wife.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: I just think Dakota is, for lack of a better word, manipulative.

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Speaker 1: He wants it seems like he desperately wants to be

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Speaker 1: for her to comment that is kind of ironic, but

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Speaker 1: also like the manipulation started. You know, we saw in

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Speaker 1: they had a reunion where he was like kicked basically

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Speaker 1: producers an ultimatum essentially.

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Speaker 4: So it's just he just has weird behaviors.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, And is there I think I remember

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Speaker 3: The Secret Lives, like there's a team Dakota and a

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Speaker 3: team Taylor, Right.

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Speaker 3: Don't know, you explain you remind me I'm asking more

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Speaker 3: of the question. Is there like two t is there

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Speaker 3: like fans of both? Or Okay, maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 3: That clears up everything I was asking. Next headline is

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Speaker 3: this Taylor shares what she's doing for herself in this

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Speaker 3: phase of life and an IG story. Last Saturday, Taylor

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Speaker 3: posted a mere selfie with this text and I quote.

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Speaker 3: This phase I'm in is fast paced with high cortisol,

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Speaker 3: So I'm learning what helps, especially for my mental health.

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Speaker 3: Red light therapy has helped my mood. Liquid IV before

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Speaker 3: travel in the arm helps with hydration, vitamins, energy levels.

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Speaker 3: B twelve shots are straight to the bloodstream, which is

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Speaker 1: It's also cancel culture that people don't want us to change.

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Speaker 3: next time, I've been Ben, I've been Kaylen. Thank you, Kaylen.

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