WEBVTT - Biased, Smug Jennies. 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:15.320 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:19.880 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:33.400 and Jaki and he Arms from the studio. 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:35.839 C Please in your. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.680 The throat clearing you just heard was one Joe Getty. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.360 I'm Jack Armstrong here in the Armstrong and Getty Communications compound. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.159 Glad you didn't hear what I did right before that. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.040 I'd like to clear out the whole system that you know, 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.640 Michael firing up to Mike's Prematureley. 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:58.360 Needed all the pipes reamed out. Oh yeah, And today 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.560 we're under the two legs of our general. 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:05.320 Manager, Vans and Walls, super heavyweight squaring off in the 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:06.000 Battle of. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:11.840 The centre for the week. What a vice presidential debate? 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:12.959 The battle of the century. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.160 Tell you what, I got a feeling just judging by 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:19.280 the pre show meeting, we're gonna hear some vehement disagreements 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.040 between the co hosts today. I thought the debate was 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:30.880 both unprecedentedly entertaining for a VP debate and also many 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:34.360 times more significant than any other VEEP debate in history. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:34.720 Cool. 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.200 I can't wait to hear why because I thought it 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.480 was insignificant and it's so tedious. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.360 I cannot hear another forty minutes about abortion. I just can't. 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.679 I just can't listen any more talk about abortion. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.800 I realize the average woman in America gets three abortions 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.680 a year, sometimes more on a good year and sometimes 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.760 less if on a slow year, but abortions just constantly, 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:56.200 every couple of months. Every woman gets abortion. So that's 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.560 what we got to talk about it the whole time. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.840 I know, we've been talking about abortion forty minutes, gentlemen, 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:03.520 but we need to move on to climate change, which 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:05.200 nobody freaking cares about. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:09.919 I can't handle it. And the constant non fact checking 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:10.760 fact checking. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:15.840 I just I can't do you combine inconsequential with liberal 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.799 policies only and fact checking. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:24.280 Debates on one side? It makes me insane. Well see, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:27.840 that's the difference between us. I enjoyed the hate. I 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:32.560 was reveling in the hatred. God Dans. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:36.400 Plus, you have a life, you got kids, you got craziness. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.440 I'm living the empty and pointless life of the empty nester. 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:42.639 So I had more than enough time to watch those 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.280 two go at it. 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.200 That's what I used to say before I had kids, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.480 living the inconsequential life of the childless this weekend, I 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:53.000 planned to you're one of those cat ladies Jadie Vance's 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.840 talked about. I took a couple of took in a 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.919 couple of different round tables last night online if you 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.480 want good analysis. I don't know how cable news channels 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:06.120 stay afloat at all, because like the best one, I 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.440 go to the Dispatch, they have a great roundtable with 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.520 all their heavyweights there, and then Mark Alprin puts one 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.919 together with pundits on left, right and center and everything 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:15.919 like that, and they're way better than anything you get 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:16.360 on cable. 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.160 But anyway, Mark Alpern's first comment was, I don't know 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:20.919 what to say. I don't, I don't. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.359 I don't know why that the networks keep doing it. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.359 The only the only excuse I can come up with 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.440 is they do it on purpose. And he was talking 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:34.320 about the un hidden and not even tried to hide 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.960 the bias that they bring to these things anymore. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.000 It used to me somewhat subtle. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:42.840 Now it's just we're here to debate the Republican, so 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:45.800 it's us two and you against the Republican. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:47.560 Is everybody an agreement on that? M? 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:50.400 Yeah, maybe I was just in the mood last night, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.640 but I enjoyed it and that they utterly exposed themselves. 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.480 They made it clear to everyone in jd Vance in 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:59.160 case anybody had missed it, made it perfectly clear. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:01.000 You said there'd be no fact checking. Now your quote 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.800 unquote fact checking me. Here are the facts. Uh, it was, 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:09.440 it was just it was egregious, unmissible. 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.640 Yeah, I won't bog down the conversation with the question 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.000 I always ask, do they not know they're doing it? 0:04:15.480 --> 0:04:17.680 Or are they just so deep and biased they they 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.440 actually just don't even notice, because that's what. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:25.360 Bias is really. Yeah. Yeah, the unconscious stuff is the 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:26.440 most powerful part of you. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.680 You're just unaware of your year. Your worldview is so different. 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.600 But it's just amazing to me. Hey, y'all, you don't 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.400 notice that when it's walls turned to ask you a question, 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.920 you just asked the question. But when it's Dvance's turned, 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.240 Vance's turn, you throw in a sentence that is a 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:48.160 fact in your mind that is disputable by many. 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.680 So what yeah? 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.920 All, yeah, you know what I struggle with and everybody 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.360 struggles with this. I've actually read about this in the past. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.480 When you would like to say something harshly critical of 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:07.880 a woman, there is almost always an element of her 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:09.839 womanhood in the insult. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:13.320 It's a female specific. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:20.200 Epithet or or insult, whereas dudes are usually not always certainly, 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:25.000 but usually there's there are like gender neutral insults. But 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.799 if I was going to describe the obnoxious, smug Margaret 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:34.039 Brennan and the superior and utterly biased Noro O'Donnell. 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.760 Joe used a word to describe. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:39.080 One of the moderators that I'm telling you would get 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.159 us fired behind the scenes. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.240 Mind, I don't. I don't recall that at all. 0:05:45.160 --> 0:05:49.560 And so what I want to I want to fashion 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.880 the proper epithet, But as I treasure and respect women, 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.320 I don't want to come off as sexist. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.400 So I guess I'll just call them. 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:02.560 Well, I can't call them jackasses because that is a 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:08.719 male reference, right, She asses Jenny's obnoxious, biased, smugged Jenny's 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.200 I will say this, I do want to play in entirety. 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.840 Tim Wallas's response to the you said you were the 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.960 Tienman square masking her, but record show you weren't. His 0:06:18.160 --> 0:06:20.720 explanation for that was one of the funniest things I've 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:23.599 ever seen in my life. And to Margaret Brennan's credit, 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.640 who I was angry at the entire debate. She followed 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.240 up and said, the question was why did you say 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:30.440 you were there when you weren't. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.200 Shed let him get off the hook with that rattling answer, 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:34.160 which I appreciated. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.000 We'll have to play that later, having made a trip 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:41.440 to his boss's salad bar. Yeah, he tossed that for everybody, 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:47.440 but nobody was buying it. That's ridiculous. Another complaint, and 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.719 then we can get to your positive stuff. I suppose 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:51.000 when we go big at the bottom of the hour 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:55.440 with clips and everything like that. The amount of time 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.159 they spent on Israel Iran was way too little given 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.440 the what's going on right at the moment. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:05.120 No China at all, No Ukraine in Russia? Are you 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:05.760 kidding me? 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.320 No COVID of course, even though that was the biggest 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.000 story of the last decade, because that would have been 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:13.040 really bad for Tim Walls. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.360 There's a number of budgets, but plenty of abortion and 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.880 climate change. Glad we got that in there. You're so right. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.840 Climate change just forget it, forget it, nobody cares. But 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:22.640 the abortion thing. 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.640 They make it seem like women get abortions with the 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:26.840 same frequency. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.800 That they go to grocery stores. It's like at least 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:33.400 once a week. Uh, judging by the omnipresence of the issue, 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:34.440 it's unbelievable. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:39.720 Yeah, and once again the fact checkers, who weren't supposed 0:07:39.720 --> 0:07:42.520 to fact check, were wrong about a major point that 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:45.200 Tim Walls made around abortion and the law that they 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.680 had in Minnesota. But the fact checkers feel free to 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:49.280 weigh in even when they're wrong about the facts. But 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:51.320 you can get all that later. We should start the 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.760 show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong, He's Joe Getty on this 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:56.080 What the hell the heck is it? Wednesday, October second, 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.360 Your twenty twenty four life will not be a born 0:07:58.440 --> 0:07:58.920 twenty four. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.400 I'd say we are armstrong and getting we approve of 0:08:02.440 --> 0:08:02.880 this program. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.880 Let's begin that officially according the FCC rules or rags, 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:07.840 the show starts at Mark Governor. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.560 You previously opposed an assault weapons ban, but it only 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:13.400 later in your political career did you change your position? 0:08:13.520 --> 0:08:13.720 Why? 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:15.920 Yeah, I set in that office with those Sandigog parents. 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.200 I've become friends with school shooters. I've seen it. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:24.760 Wow, that's an odd circle to run with assuming didn't 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.040 mean that, uh, and I believe the old coach miss 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.840 Folk there. Maybe another off putting thing was the number 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.040 of times I didn't agree with either candidate, which I 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.080 don't think has ever happened to me watching the debate before. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.160 Like I didn't like JD's Bands's answer on the school 0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:41.400 shootings thing at all. I don't agree with that at all. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.120 I don't want to turn schools into fortresses and have 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.360 endless drills and all that sort of stuff at all. 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:48.920 And then of course Walls blaming the guns, which is 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:52.559 just insane. Yeah. Yeah, So there were a number of 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:53.079 things like that. 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:57.760 Anyway, we got obviously plenty more on that, and who 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.920 knows what Israel might do today or tomorrow or next week. 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.920 I took in a ton of coverage on that yesterday. 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.280 I didn't see a single expert, like, not just like 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:10.600 cable news puntit, but foreign policy expert or military expert 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.599 who didn't think this is going to escalate dramatically. Not 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:16.000 one that there's a chance this is over. I think 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.120 there's an ability to cool. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:18.840 Not one. 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.560 Every single person said this is going further. Well, that's odd. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.440 The president in the United States said, take the win. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.559 Yeah, of course he did. That's not as clay. 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.360 I didn't realize that was the biggest ballistic missile attack 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.679 in world history, in addition to the fact that each 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.520 one of those ballistic missiles had twelve hundred pounds of 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.920 TNT on it and would have leveled multiple buildings. If 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:44.479 one had gotten through, it had killed hundreds, maybe thousands. 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:46.719 And will you talk about the war we'd be in then? 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.000 Holy crap? 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.520 Take the win? Right? 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:57.719 Right? Worst president ever? Did he watch the debate or 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.040 was he already sound asleep dreaming of is on the 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:01.640 East coast? 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:04.320 It aired at nine o'clock. He was asleep four hours 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:06.559 before it started. He was dreaming of being shirtless on 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.679 the beach. Just two more days and I'll be back 0:10:08.720 --> 0:10:12.120 on the beach laying in the sun. How does he 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:14.880 got Harry Legs? How does they bring up the dock 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:19.480 workers strike either? How does mailbag look? It's coming together? 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:21.040 It's fine, that's awesome. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.920 We do have a lot of highlights from the debate 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:27.360 and punditry around man. I saw some people representing Israel 0:10:27.440 --> 0:10:29.240 on various cable news channels. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:30.640 They were hot yesterday. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.280 We have a lot to get to ahead gentlemen on 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:35.160 many topics. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.480 Thank you, right, Darres Margaret reminding us that we need 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:39.160 to break. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.520 Okay, our text line is four one five, two nine 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:43.679 five KFTC. 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:44.360 That's funny. 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.360 I'm interested to see what the ratings were for the 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.719 VP debate. I gotta believe by the end of it 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:58.040 there was freaking nobody watching. But both of their approval 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:01.959 ratings went up. According to CNN snappole, they both went 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:03.720 up like about a dozen points each. 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.000 E've an angry, nervous tim which doesn't surprise me. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.520 I think if you had heard what an evil, awful 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.160 person he was, he came off it just kind of 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:16.680 a uh, somewhat ditzy, nice enough guy. And jad Vans 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.120 came off as obviously not evil and very smart and 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.520 so yeah, both their approval ratings went up. 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:22.760 That's funny. 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:27.319 I thought Walls constantly looked either a angry or b 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.160 about to crawl out of his skin with nerves. 0:11:30.600 --> 0:11:33.599 He did not impart a sense of confidence to me. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.080 He didn't your business. He definitely looked nervous. I suppose 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.040 it's a matter of taste whether that makes you dislike 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:40.559 someone or not. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.360 And angry, just a seething seething with anger and hate. 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:48.720 It's terrible. It hard to watch. Had to avert my eyes. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:50.360 He's your freedom loving quote of the day. I love 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.320 this from the great Thomas Soa. He said, along by 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.439 alert listener Steve. There's usually only a limited amount of 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.240 damage that can be done by dull or stupid people. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.920 For creating a truly monumental disaster, you need people with 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:04.720 high IQs. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:08.040 Oh that is so true. Pretty good. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.360 It's been a long running conversation on the show about 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:18.760 the Gulf, the difference between intelligence and wisdom. And you 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:22.480 can have somebody who's extremely bright but utterly lacking in 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.439 realism or wisdom understanding how human beings in the world work. 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.720 I think maybe it gives you a hubris. 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:31.800 Also, you know you're smart, so you're more likely to 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:34.439 take a big bite or take a big swing or 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.599 whatever I mean, like the geniuses that put together the 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:37.240 Iraq war. 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:38.760 Right. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.319 Yeah, yeah, Well that and you're much more effective in 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:46.959 going shit exactly the wrong direction. So between all of 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.640 those factors. Yeah, the great soul Man, you cannot read 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.880 him enough. Mailbag, Oh well, drop us note mail Bag 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:57.120 at Armstrong and Getty dot com. Going with a smattering 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.000 of reactions to the debate and no particular order. Darren 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:03.360 and Seattle, just take a second to think about it. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:06.240 Close your eyes and imagine JD. Van's debating Kamala would 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.160 be like the Yankees playing a little league team on 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:09.160 a little league field. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.640 Why can't he just be the nominee not the only 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.120 person who expressed that sense. JD. 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.080 Vance clearly the best of the four Oh yeah, oh 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:21.520 by Miles, Bryan and Sacramento. I'm betting I'm not the 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.600 first with this thought, but this VP debate is more 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.920 presidential than any of the last dozen presidential debates. Why 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.960 can't our presidential candidates be this well spoken? Walls can 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:33.439 actually put together thoughts, and Vans is trying hard to 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.160 hit issues. Can we just make it a wash and 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:36.520 make the veeps the candidates? 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.720 And then how about just the stability of it? Did 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:39.559 you like that or not? 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:45.199 And then he signs off with f exclamation book, the 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:49.080 guttural cry of the frustrated voter. I fail you, brother, 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.400 TJ in the dang writes key Thoughts said to my 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.840 wife multiple times, I wish Vance was running for president. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.439 Waltz was fine, seemed a bit nervous, won't move the 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:01.199 needle either way. I actually agree, and I'll explain in 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:01.800 a little bit. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:04.000 But that was the first debate in a long time 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.880 that actually felt like a debate, actually answering some of 0:14:06.920 --> 0:14:10.880 the questions, arguing important Democrat Republican differences, showing at least 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.080 some respect for each other, and explaining things so people 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:13.840 can understand. 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:15.679 I'll be voting for Trump. I can't wait for the 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:16.679 Trump Air to be over with. 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.880 At the same time, and then he says very nice 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:25.600 things about the whole crew here, the team, Michael Catie Hanson, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.840 behind the scenes mostly and more. 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:31.600 Is there more? 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.480 I don't think there's more, seems like there should be. 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:38.200 Let's pretend there is old Joe from Dayton, Ohio. Not 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:40.360 that he's old, but he's a longtime correspondent and a 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.240 fine fellow. Last night I was watching my first VEEP 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.120 debate since ninety two, Quail Gore Stockdale, Who am I? 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:48.040 Why am I here? 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.680 And I concur ninety minutes is too long. Nonetheless, I've 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:55.080 found it refreshing political opinions. Notwithstanding, I simply appreciated their 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.440 cordiality to weave viewers on each other. I would not 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.560 be adverse to them running again to each other as 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:04.400 Potus Macca make America civil again. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.520 Yeah, how did you feel about the civility? Did you 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:08.600 like it? I did? 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.120 I absolutely did. I think both fellas tend to be 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.680 more civil. And also JD is smart enough to know 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.520 he had to counter the narrative that he's some sort 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.080 of maga demon from hell. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.080 Right, but he is. 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.240 I mean hell, We've talked to him for a very 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:33.680 long time. He's an extremely thoughtful in both senses of 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.480 the word person. But they both did a lot of 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:39.480 just a lot of complimenting each other with a variety 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.160 of things, or being polite more than I than we've 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.120 seen it debated in quite a few cycles, deliberately gentlemanly 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.360 in a way that used to be obligatory. I miss it, 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.000 Billy and Irvine. Let's see, let's ditch Trump and Harris 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.640 and elect these guys. But they have to switch Potus 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.080 and VP roles every four months. This will force them 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.760 to cooperate with themselves in both parties in the House 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:06.840 and Senate. Too bad, the Constitution wouldn't allow it. Yeah, 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:08.840 not even close. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.720 But I like the idea. Let's be horrified at a 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:16.080 Tim Walls presidency. Me too. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:21.400 I am seriously I would be terrified Arizona Brandon right, so, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.360 I thought jadvanced, absolutely brilliant. I had my doubts about 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.480 Trump choosing him as the VEEP candidate, but I have 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:27.320 to give him credit. 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:28.760 PS. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:31.240 I would rather watch Roseanne Bard to a strip tease 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:35.040 than hear Jack talk about AI again. I don't know 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:39.120 why the somewhat zoftig and aged Roseanne Barr comes in 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:41.600 for a kicking and Jack. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.840 I find Jack's AI screeds fascinating. 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.200 It's damn important whether you whether you want it to 0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:49.480 be or not. Roseanne Barr, what an odd choice. And 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.160 we don't have time for this right now, but I 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:53.480 want to get to this in a little bit. 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.320 Loyal listener Robert, who has been in the midst of 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.760 a natural disaster, talking about what an enormous counterproductive pain 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.840 in the acid is when big time politicians show up. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.520 Oh, I don't doubt that a bit. So it's not 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.440 only not helpful, it's miserably unhelpful. Doesn't surprise me. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:15.240 The dumbest thing we do around disasters is decide governors 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.560 need to put on some sort of barn coat and 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:20.280 act like they're in charge in presidents whatever. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.840 More on the debate and some of the analysis from 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.040 smart people stay. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:28.160 With us, Armstrong and Getty should. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.440 We got a lot for you today and a bunch 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.720 of different things. Some things learned yesterday about the doc 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.359 strike that are super interesting. Got that guy who's the 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.719 head dude for the union who talks so tough they 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.680 ever gave an ass about us until now. Guy makes 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.400 seven hundred grand a year plus benefits, and the benefits 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:45.800 add up to a hell of a lot. So he 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.520 actually makes a lot more money than that. Drives a Bentley, 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:51.080 has a yacht. 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:52.400 Yeah. 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:53.000 Yeah. 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:56.560 And the doc worker they don't do like, no care 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:57.720 about us work guys. 0:17:58.640 --> 0:18:02.160 Well, and you may recall from yesterday's show we pointed 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:06.080 out that he'd been investigated for mob ties. Some details 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:09.720 of that trial because it actually went to trial, including 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:13.159 the fact that one of the defendants disappeared mid trial 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.359 and was later found in a shallow gray Really no. 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:20.320 Mob involvement at all here, nothing to see. Wow, I 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.520 hadn't heard that. Oh, this guy is straight out of 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.080 you the Godfather, goodfellas you name it. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.879 Also, we got to check in on Iran Israel that 0:18:30.080 --> 0:18:33.560 whole thing that could explode into like a major major 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.960 people talk about it years from now war at any moment, 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.600 So we've got that coming up a little bit later. 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.600 And then you had the vice presidential debate last night, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.680 which Joe believes is interesting and consequential. I believe is 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.240 not consequential and only made me sad and angry. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:50.840 Well, I certainly won't debate that last part, although I 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.640 found it fairly entertaining at least for the first hour. 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.439 So I can't stick with those things much more than 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:55.760 an hour. 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:58.080 And it's funny how often the big singer, the big 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.480 haymaker is lneded, like in the last five minutes. 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.080 Well, that's fine. 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:05.639 I've heard from a number of people, including people on 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.600 the right who are being fair that the last answer 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:12.160 Vance gave on January sixth, with his worst moment. Well, 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:13.920 the saving grace for that would be if it's true 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.080 and I didn't see the end, is nobody watched it. 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.560 Nobody saw the end, so he's safe there. It was 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.639 just him and the moderators and Tim Walls and their 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:25.000 wives the only people that are aware that that happened. 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:28.440 So here is my very brief take on why I 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:31.800 think it's going to be much much more consequential than 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:35.440 any VEEP debate in history. And that is because you 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:40.600 have two unpopular presidential candidates who seem to have topped 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.399 out their appeal and seem unable to do. 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:48.000 Anything about moving the needle. Just their last efforts have 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.800 been floundering. Kamala's honeymoon is over and people have woken 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:53.040 up to the fact that she's an empty headed puppet. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:58.200 And Trump just finds it completely impossible to be appealing 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:02.240 to anybody but those who already love him. So you 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:08.920 have a highly unhappy electorate thinking all right, which way 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.679