1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, orgey, do you know what today is? Is it 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: a special day today? Oh my god, I can't believe 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: your forgot? Is it your birthday? Try again? Is it 4 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: the anniversary of the Higgs Boson closer? It's actually our anniversary. 5 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Today is our two hundredth episode of Daniel and Jorge 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Explain the Universe. Two hundred episodes. Oh my gosh, it's 7 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: a lot of physics and a lot of banana jots. 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: It's a whole universe of banana physics. Hi am orhand 9 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: my cartoonists and the creator of PhD comment. Hi. I'm Daniel. 10 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm a particle physicist, and I know at least two 11 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: hundred things about physics, and I know at least two 12 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: hundred bad jokes about physics. I've made ten to the 13 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: two hundred bad jokes about physics, but our editor has 14 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,279 Speaker 1: removed most. And Welcome to our podcast, Daniel and Jorge 15 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: Explained the Universe, a production of I Heart Radio, a 16 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: project we started to explain to you all the amazing 17 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: and crazy things out there in the universe, all the 18 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: things we do know, the facts we've learned about the universe, 19 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: the secret truth that we've revealed, and also the incredible questions, 20 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: the things that science still has to figure out, the 21 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: questions that scientists are asking, and the questions that you 22 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: are asking, the deep mysteries of the universe around us. 23 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: Because it turns out that there are more than two 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: hundred questions you can ask about the universe and more 25 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: than two hundred amazing facts to learn and to discover 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: about how this crazy cosmos works. At least that's what 27 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: we've discovered in doing this podcast. We had no idea 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: how long we could keep going on. Yeah, today is 29 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: a very special episode. It's our two hundred episode. What 30 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: does that make it anial? Is it like a birthday, 31 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: a broadcast day at pot day? I don't know, but 32 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, if you look up anniversaries, like you know, 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: the fifth anniversaries paper, and the tenth anniversary is silver 34 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: or whatever, the fiftieth anniversary is diamond. There is no 35 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: culturally acceptable gift for two hundredth anniversary because he's ever 36 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: lasted that long. I think they give you a Nobel 37 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: price if you somehow managed to celebrate two hundredth anniversary, 38 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Maybe you should be the fossil anniversary something, because you've 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: become fossilized. But congratulations Daniel, two hundred episodes. Did you 40 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: ever think we would get to two hundred episodes? No? 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: I thought you get sick of talking to me about 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: physics after about ten or twenty. No, congratulations to you. Also, 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: it's been a really fun ride. And thank you to 44 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: all of our listeners who have listened to us talking 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: about science and joking about bananas and shared your goofy 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: curiosity with us. That's really what's powered us forward. So 47 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: thanks for listening, and thanks for all the feedback and support. Well, 48 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: I have definitely not gotten tired of listening to amazing 49 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: physics and to listen to you explain rated. Um, I 50 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: feel like I could go another two hundred episodes. Let's 51 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: do it. Well. In honor of our two hundredth episode, 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: I put out a tweet asking folks what we should 53 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: do to celebrate our two hundredth episode, and as usual, 54 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: I put out some silly suggestions and we did a 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: little Twitter poll. Yeah, and so Daniel asked what should 56 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: we do for a two hundred episode? And the options 57 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: were one, eat two hundred bananas, to answer two hundred questions, 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: three to two hundred different accents, and number four just 59 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: shut up. And explain. That's right, and clearly I was 60 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: going to do the explaining, but I was hoping that 61 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: you would do the bananas in the accents seems a 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: little lopsided. Daniel, Well, you're the creative one, right. How 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: can I eat bananas and accents at the same time? 64 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Those count as different accents, you know, like Scottish or 65 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: Scottish with the banana in your mouth sound very different. 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: It was a close pole. It was a close poll, yes, 67 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: exactly what it was. It dramatic like as you saw 68 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the numbers come in. Um, well, bananas was racing to 69 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: the lead in the beginning, but eventually people voted for 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Answer two hundred questions got about thirty five Eat two 71 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: hundred bananas in second place, and you know in last 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: place was due two hundred accidents, which I was sort 73 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: of hoping for. I think we have to trust the 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: wisdom of the crowd here and not offend two hundred 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: countries we can. There aren't two hundred countries to offend, 76 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: so that would be pretty impressive if we could offend 77 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: non existing countries. Yeah. So the top option was Answer 78 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: two hundred questions, which when Daniel told me, I said 79 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: it was a little impractical for a fifty minute podcast, 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: that's right. They have to be like true or false questions, 81 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: or you know, yes or no, or something which wouldn't 82 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: be too satisfied, right. I started to think, if we 83 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: take five minutes to answer each question, that's a thousand 84 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: minute episode. That's basically the next two hundred episodes. Basically, 85 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: we'd be done. We could celebrate our four hundred anniversary 86 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: next week. Then, well, this podcast is really accelerating the 87 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: logarithmic scales. We'll be doing our four thousand one in 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: a month, that's right. And I started looking through the 89 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: list of questions we've answered over email, because I answered 90 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: hundreds of questions a week from listeners, and there's a 91 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: lot of common things in there. But then or I 92 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: had a better idea something else we could do to 93 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: celebrate our two hundredth episode. Yeah, so it's be on 94 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: the podcast. We'll be asking two hundred questions, but not 95 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: two hundred number of questions, but a couple of questions 96 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: about the number two hundred. That's right, because while the 97 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: number ten and the number one hundred, and therefore the 98 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: number two hundred are really just artifacts of the number 99 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: of fingers we have in the way the human mind works. 100 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: It's also an interesting way to ask questions about the universe, 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: to think about like how far away are things or 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: what happened in certain moments of time in the universe. 103 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: It gives you like a fixed window to examine the universe. 104 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: We'll be asking coincidentally to two hundred questions here in 105 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: the podcast, and the first question has to do with 106 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: what happened at the beginning of the universe. So the 107 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: question is what happened in the first two hundred micro 108 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: seconds of the universe. And then later on we'll tackle 109 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: the another question about with the number two hundred, which 110 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: is what can we find within two hundred light years 111 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: of Earth? So a little bit of time and a 112 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: little bit of space, a little bit of space time, Daniel, 113 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: that's right. What can you find within two hundred light 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: years of Earth? Makes me think like, are you looking 115 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: for your keys? Are they somewhere out there in space? 116 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: I do lose my keys a lot, even even in 117 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: a pandemic where you don't go anywhere. Somehow I managed 118 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: to lose my keys like every day. Well, we'll see 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: if we can find them, all right, we'll tackle this 120 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: first question first, which is what happened in the first 121 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: two hundred micro seconds of the universe. Now, two hundred microseconds, 122 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: that's like, boy, that's like point to milliseconds. It's not 123 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: a lot of time. But it turns out a whole 124 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: lot of stuff happened in the first two hundred microseconds 125 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: to the universe. Basically everything's been boring ever since. Well, 126 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: two d micro seconds. That's that's shorter than a blink, right, 127 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: Like a blink is maybe a couple of microseconds, a 128 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: couple of milliseconds. It's a very small amount of time. Absolutely, Yeah, 129 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: So a lot happened in those first microseconds. A lot happened. 130 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: And one of the most interesting questions really is how 131 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: you even define like moment zero. If you're gonna say, 132 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: let's take a window of time from the very beginning 133 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: of the universe to two d microseconds afterwards, it's interesting 134 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: to think about, like how the universe expands and cools, 135 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: and we'll get into all of that. But then you 136 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: have to wonder, like where does T equal zero? How 137 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: do you define that moment? Do we even know that 138 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: there was a T equal zero? So already like anchoring 139 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: the left side, the early side of that window is very, 140 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: very difficult. It makes me think, like was there a 141 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: T minus one or like a countdown to the universe. 142 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Nobody really knows, And the problem is that we don't 143 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: think about the history of the universe in that sort 144 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: of forward way because we don't really have anything to 145 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: build on. We don't know what was in the beginning 146 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: or when the beginning was. Usually we think about it 147 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: sort of in the reverse. We look at the universe now, 148 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: and we look backwards in time as we look further 149 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: further out into space, right, because remember the further out 150 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: in space, you look older the universe is. So we 151 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: can see how the universe looked a hundred years ago, 152 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: a thousand years ago, a million years ago, a billion 153 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: years ago, etcetera. And we can project backwards in time. 154 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: So we tend to think of the history of the 155 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: universe sort of from now and running the clock backwards, 156 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: and we can do it pretty well, you know, back 157 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: about thirteen billion years or so, But then it gets 158 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: pretty murky and we have trouble extrapolating back. We don't 159 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: know if there was a T equal zero, if there 160 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: was like a T equals question mark, or who knows 161 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: what was happening at the very beginning. That's interesting. Now, 162 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: why does the picture he get fuzzy beyond if you 163 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: rewind back to more than a few hundred thousand years 164 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: from what what might be the beginning of time? Like 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: what what? What actually marks up? Well, the reason is 166 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: that things change, Things get really hot and dense. Right, 167 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: the overall history of the universe is cooling and expanding, 168 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: and so if you run that backwards from now we 169 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: have a cold, large universe. You run that backwards, things 170 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: get hotter and denser. And of course you could just 171 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: do that naively, like assume that the laws of physics 172 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: we have learned today from our cold universe still work 173 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: back then, and just run the clock backwards and you 174 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: get infinite density and you call that T equal zero. 175 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: You could do that, but we don't think that's right. 176 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: We don't think the laws we have work anymore as 177 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: things get that hot and dense, just like you know, 178 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: the physics of gases is different from the physics of 179 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 1: liquids and the physics of solids, and so things change 180 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: as you get hotter and denser, and then it becomes 181 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: difficult to extrapolate because we're reaching into regions that we 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: can't see anymore and we have no experience of because 183 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: there's a moment in the early universe when the universe cooled. 184 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: It was a hot, dense, nastiness, will talk about it, 185 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: and it cooled to a place where light could fly through. 186 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: It became transparent, And that's the last moment in the 187 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: early universe that we can actually see. Beyond that, we're 188 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: just really sort of guessing and extrapolating and using models, 189 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: but those models are very uncertain. We really don't know 190 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. So a lot of the details 191 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: we'll talk through today in this episode are really speculative. 192 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: They're like, maybe it was this, and maybe it was that, 193 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and under various assumptions which seemed reasonable but could be 194 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: totally wrong. You know, maybe this happened, But it's really guesswork. 195 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Is it guesswork because we don't know, like our simulations 196 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: don't aren't very definitive, or like the physics of the 197 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: universe might actually change it in those kind of conditions. 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: We don't know how the physics of the universe operates 199 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: in those very hot and dense environments. You know, we've 200 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: only experienced it when it's pretty cold and separated, and 201 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: so we're extrapolating back. We think we have ideas or 202 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: how it might work, and we can simulate various ones 203 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: of them, but we can't necessarily like tell the difference 204 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: between if it's like this or if it's like that, 205 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: and so we just we're extrapolating into the unknown, and 206 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: and that's always very dangerous and delicate. Now, even the 207 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: concept of time equals zero is weird, right, because I've 208 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: heard people say that, you know, like it's it's almost 209 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: like asking what is more north than the north Pole? 210 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: Because once you get to the north pole, there's no 211 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: more north? And is it the same? Also that you know, 212 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: maybe time started at T equal zero and there was 213 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: no time before that. It sounds bonkers to say that, right, 214 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: like there was no time before that, because it's before 215 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: mean if there was no time, right, It's it's confusing. 216 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to really get these ideas into your head. 217 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: But it's true that some theories of the universe say 218 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: that space and time were created at some moment and 219 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: things have expanded and cooled since then, and before that point, 220 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: there was no time, There was no space, there was 221 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: no before that point. That's really hard to grasp your 222 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: mind around because your mind lives in that space in 223 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: that time. It's all you've experienced, and so it's all 224 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: you can really imagine how you organize your thinking. It's 225 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: how we think about causality and logic, and a it happens, 226 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: then be happens, then see happens. But it doesn't mean 227 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: it's the only way the universe can be. And so 228 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: it's extraordinarily difficult to sort of extrapolate your brain and 229 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: you're thinking into something completely unfamiliar, right, And so what 230 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: we do is we have these frameworks like general relativity 231 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: and quantum mechanics that try to tell us about what 232 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: might have happened, But those aren't very conclusive either. I 233 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: guess the North Pole analogy kind of works also in that, 234 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: you know, like here where we are. You know, if 235 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: you have like a compass, it's pretty clear how to 236 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: use it, Like, you know, it tells you north and 237 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: right and south and east and west, and you can 238 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: walk around pretty easy blue. But if you are like 239 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: near the North Pole, it might be a little tricky 240 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: to use a compass, right, Yeah, if you're at the 241 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: North Pole, you'd be a little disoriented. Yeah, if you're 242 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: at the north pole. There is no more north to go, right, 243 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: you can't go any north eier than that. But we 244 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: don't know if time works that way. It could be 245 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: that there was stuff for you know, these early moments, 246 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: these singularities. There was a whole other universe perhaps which 247 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: came down into a big crunch or something else totally different, 248 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: some sort of other weird kind of thing which gave 249 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: birth two hours space and time. You know, our entire universe, 250 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: Our space and time could be a bubble of that 251 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: other pre universe stuff like decaying into a universe. There 252 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: could be a whole spectrum of other universes also that 253 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: were created in the same moment, or the could that 254 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: are still being created now. There could be like you know, 255 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: moments of creation happening right now, really far away in 256 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: this other meta space. It sounds like bonker speculation because 257 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: it is mostly because we're so clueless. You mean, like now, 258 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: like as we speak, there could be some time equal 259 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: zero moments right now for other universes in this universe. Yeah. 260 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: One idea of how our universe got started is that 261 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: there was some sort of like pre universe stuff some 262 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: Inflaton fields, and that our universe is essentially some random 263 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: spontaneous decay of at and that's when our universe began, 264 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: and that influence on Field is just like expanding and 265 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: creating and eternally inflating. But all the time it's parts 266 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: of it are decaying and starting whole new universes, their 267 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: universes that haven't even gotten started yet, in universes that 268 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: are trillions of years old. And none of this is 269 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: anything we know. It's just like it's a crazy idea, 270 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: and in a thousand years people will read about these 271 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: ideas the way we think about, you know, the Greek's 272 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: ideas about air, water, fire, and earth. We're like, well, 273 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: that's cute, you know, and it could have been true. 274 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I suppose, yeah, it's it's well meaning, carefully thought out, 275 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: totally wrong, And that could be the way we describe 276 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: all of our current ideas about what happened to T 277 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: equal zero and whether T equal zero even makes sense. 278 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: It could be like cute to future busicists, exactly lessly 279 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: cute to a future five year olds. Man, five year olds, 280 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: and a thousand years will laugh at our ideas that 281 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: were like, oh, you're ridiculous, that's silly, oh man, well, 282 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: five year olds already laugh at me, Daniel, so that 283 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: that's going to be We'll pretend that's on purpose though, 284 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: all right, so it seems like, okay, so we can't 285 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: see that well beyond a few hundred thousand years into 286 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: the universe. So really asking like what happened in the 287 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: first twohundred microseconds is really speculative, then that's right. All 288 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: you can do is say, like, you know, extrapolate backwards 289 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: from where we are it gets hotter and denser, hotter 290 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: and denser, and pretend that you know how to extrapolate 291 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: back to some point like general relativity says you can 292 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: extrapolate all the way back to a point of infinite 293 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: density and temperature. But you know, we know that general 294 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: relativity is probably wrong when it talks about singularities and 295 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: stuff like that, because it ignores important things like quantum mechanics, 296 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: which tells us that you can't have an infinite amount 297 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: of stuff in a tiny zero volume point and know 298 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: all about it. So definitely something wonky happens. But you know, 299 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: you can extrapolate sort of naively and say we'll call 300 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: this t equal zero and we'll move forward from there. 301 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: I see, I see so we're gonna plant the flow. 302 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: I can say this is tequals zero, and then we're 303 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: going to see what can the universe do to get 304 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: us to where we are today? Kind of yeah, exactly. 305 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: All right, well let's get into that and to the 306 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: question of what is within two hundred light years of Earth? 307 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: But first let's take a quick break. All right, Daniel, 308 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: we're celebrating our two birthday. Does that mean that I'm 309 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: two years old and you're two hundred years old, or 310 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: we're each a hundred years old? It means we should 311 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: have retired a hundred and thirty years ago. I feel 312 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: like this podcast has aged me two years. I feel 313 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: like I'm two hundred light years from where I started. There, 314 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: you go, all right, well, so we're talking about the 315 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: first two hundred microseconds of the universe, and so we'll 316 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: start with time equals zero. What what happened at times zero? Daniel? 317 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: We don't know, but one idea is that there was 318 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: a singularity that you know, the universe was super hot 319 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: and super dense. And I think a lot of people 320 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: imagine this as a single point. They hear singularity to 321 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: think a single point. They think one hot, dense spot 322 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,239 Speaker 1: like the entire energy and all the matter of the 323 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: universe was in a really tiny dot. But it's better 324 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: not to think about it as one place, but more 325 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: to think about it as the density. Because we don't 326 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: know if the universe is finite or infinite. Possible that 327 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: when the universe started it was already infinite, and that 328 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: this singularity we're talking about was everywhere like multiple singularity, yes, yes, precisely, 329 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: like a non singular singularity. Yes. Like the singularity refers 330 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: not to how many of them there were, but the 331 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: fact that the density becomes infinite singularity refers to what 332 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: happens to the equations, that the equations get infinities in them, 333 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: because the density becomes infinite, not the size of it. 334 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: And there's a i think a very common misconception that 335 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: the Big Bang or pre Big Bang starts with a dot, 336 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: and a dots small than an adam becomes the entire universe. 337 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: And because we don't know how big the universe is, 338 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: it could have been a little blob, it could have 339 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: been an infinite extent. It's better to think about it 340 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: in terms of infinite density, or like an infinite number 341 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: of dots, an infinite number of dots. Yeah, The thing 342 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: we do know is that the universe was denser and 343 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: harder back then. We don't know how much of it 344 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: there was, could have been infinite, could be finite, and 345 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: loop all around on itself. That's a whole other episode 346 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: about the size and shape of the universe, which is fascinating. 347 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: But to think through the history of the universe is 348 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: mostly to think about the density changing da days that 349 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: you know, there's no real reason for this to exist, 350 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: just somehow the universe what we know was really dance, 351 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: almost like infinitely dance. Yeah, there must have been a 352 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: reason for it to exist, because it does. And we 353 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: think the universe follows reasons and laws. We just don't 354 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: know what they are and we can't argue for it. 355 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: We don't know why there was something instead of nothing, 356 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: and why there was this, and could there have been 357 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: other things, and you know, just really shockingly basic questions 358 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: that we have really no clue about. Okay, so we 359 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: had to super dance state almost infinitely dense, maybe everywhere, 360 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: maybe just one dot, and then what's next thing that 361 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: happened and what happened in the first tend to the 362 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: minus you know, forty three seconds, so The picture you 363 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: should have in your mind is that we have space, 364 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: and space is really really hot, like there's a huge 365 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: amount of energy. Right. The density we're really talking about 366 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: there is energy density. And if you've been following the podcast, 367 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: you know that we like to think about space in 368 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: terms of quantum fields. Every point in space has fields 369 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: in it, the electron fields of cork fields, the photon fields, etcetera. 370 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: And particles that we think about today are little blobs 371 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: of excitations of those fields. Today, most of those fields 372 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: are very very low energy. Most of space is empty 373 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: in those fields are zero. But back then, infinite density 374 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: really means all those fields are going nuts. They're going crazy, 375 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: they're oscillating, they're just full of energy. And so instead 376 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: of thinking about individual particles, it's like having an ocean, right, 377 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: you don't think about a drop of water. When you 378 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: have an ocean. You can just think about the entire crazy, 379 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: turbulent blob and it's doing all sorts of stuff. So 380 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: the first ten to the minus forty three seconds of 381 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: the universe we called this the plant epoch. Everything was 382 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: hot and dense in these fields were just going crazy. 383 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: Now I have a question, though, somebody's talk about that. 384 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: It's not just like stuff that was crammed in together 385 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: really tightly. It's also that space itself was smaller, much smaller. 386 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: So it's like it's both those things. It's like everything 387 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: was crowned in together and also space was smaller. That's right. 388 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: There's two kinds of expansion we're gonna talk about later. 389 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: One is the expansion of stuff through space as things 390 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: spread out into existing space. The other is the expansion 391 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: of space that you create more space, and new space 392 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: itself is created. Because remember that space is not just 393 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: like a backdrop on which things happen. There's a dynamical 394 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: connection between space and energy. Space curves and bends and 395 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: expands in response to the mass and energy that's in it, 396 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: and then it shapes the motion of that mass and energy. 397 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: So space and mass and energy are two things that 398 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: are very tightly coupled and respond to each other. Okay, 399 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: so in the first you know point zero zero zero 400 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: zero down to forty zeros one seconds, you said, that's 401 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: called the planet. Yeah, and back there we had a 402 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: bunch of really hot fields. And the thing to think 403 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: about here is that there are no particles. What it's 404 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: it's like too hot for particles like particles just kind 405 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: of everything is just crazy. That's right. There are no 406 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: isolated particles because everything is just too hot and too intense. 407 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: It's all just energy in these fields. It's slashing around. 408 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: You know, later on things will cool down enough for 409 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: particles to form. But particles are like you know, when 410 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: you have a few little isolated blobs of energy in 411 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the field. Here we have like an incredible turbulent ocean. 412 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: So it makes no sense to think about in terms 413 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: of particles. I mean, technically you could, you could say 414 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: this field is ten ca jillion particles in it, but 415 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't really make any sense. It's really just energies, 416 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: not discrete packets being around through space. It's just a 417 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: huge blob of energy slashing around in the field. I see. 418 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: There's no moment where you're like, oh, there's an electron. 419 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: It's just that the whole field is just sit on fire. Yeah, precisely. 420 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: You can't follow a drop of water in the ocean, right. 421 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: And the other thing to think about is that the 422 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: fields here behave differently, just like the way materials on 423 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: Earth have phases as you cool them or or heat 424 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: them up. The physics of them changes completely, right, The 425 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: same thing happens for fields. They tend to act in 426 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: different ways at different temperatures and different energy densities. And 427 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: this is not like the laws of physics changing. It's 428 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: just like how you can think about it, how you 429 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: can describe it. The effective the emergent results of it 430 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: are very different at different temperatures, just the same way 431 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: they are for solid But can we still use the 432 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: same equations we have, Like do our equations still work? 433 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: We don't think they do. We think the equations that 434 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: we have now only describe physics sort of at lower temperatures, 435 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: that they're sort of like the falling at the effective 436 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: equations for what happens when things are old. We don't 437 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: think we have like the fundamental equations. Our equations should 438 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: be like the low temperature limit of the true equations, 439 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: which we haven't found yet. But for example, and we 440 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: think that a very hot temperature is the early moments, 441 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: all of the forces acted like one gravity, electromagnetism, the 442 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: weak force, and the strong force. We think they're probably 443 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: all just one force that acted together. What do you 444 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: mean of force? Don't forces depend on particles to no? 445 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: Forces are also just fields? Right, But we think that 446 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: there was a single field that represents all those forces 447 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: but combined into one. And we think when it was 448 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: really hot and dense, that they acted together. They all 449 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: had the same strength, and there were all just different 450 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: components of one mega force which exists in the universe. Well, 451 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: I think you just coined the term right there at 452 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: the megaphorce. This is like to call it the grand 453 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: unified theory. I like megaphorce better megaforce. It is, then, 454 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: all right, so those are the first ten to the 455 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: minus forty three second. Is then what happened? And things 456 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: start to cool, things start to expand a little bit, 457 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: and the first breaking happens. Here the force splits into two. 458 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: You have gravity on one side, and then all the 459 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: other forces electromagnetism, the weak force, and the strong force 460 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: combined still into one single force, which we call electro strong. 461 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: And so here the temperature has dropped enough that the 462 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: force has split. It's like cracked. You know how. Sometimes 463 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: when you cool something, you can freeze, or it can crack, 464 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: or it can end them as some weird configuration. As 465 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: the universe cooled, gravity sort of like froze and split 466 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: off from the other forces. Interesting like inevitably or is 467 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: it like a random you know, like an ice when 468 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: you freeze eyes, you you sometimes get crystals here or 469 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: crystals there. Is it random like that or is it 470 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: like inevitable? Do you think that the equations were like 471 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: we were always going to get gravity and these other 472 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: forces we don't know. We call it spontaneous symmetry breaking 473 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: because we think there's a random element in it and 474 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: all the forces you'll see as we go through time, 475 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: all the forces split off, and we think that those 476 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: splittings are spontaneous, that they're essentially the result of one 477 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: little quantum fluctuation which then gets propagated through the universe. 478 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: You know, like when everybody sits down at a dinner table, 479 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: do you drink from the glass to your left to 480 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: your right? Well, if one person chooses left, then you know, 481 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: everybody around them starts to choose left and it spreads 482 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: across the whole dinner table. Right, they could have chosen 483 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: to drink from the one to their right and then 484 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: everyone would use that one. So one little fluctuation like 485 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: that can propagate itself through the whole universe. And we 486 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: don't know if gravity splitting off was inevitable or at 487 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: what temperature it should have split off? We just don't know. 488 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: We think gravity split off first because it's the weakest force, 489 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: and so we think it would take the hottest temperature 490 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: to combine all the forces. And then fourteen billion years later, 491 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: everyone's like, is this my glasses? Is your glass? Did 492 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: you drink from mine? Because I thought I had more 493 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: wine left over? And then people are spitting up what 494 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: And then it's it's like back to the big bank, 495 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: all right, So things start to split off and cool down, 496 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: and then we start to get more forces defined. Uh, 497 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: and then what happens next? And then the next thing 498 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: to split off is the strong force. So gravity split off, 499 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: and then the strong force splits off. So now we 500 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: have gravity, we have the strong force, and we have 501 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: the electro weak force electro week being the combination of 502 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: electromagnetism and the weak force. Remember still we have no particles, 503 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,479 Speaker 1: so these things aren't like forces that we think of 504 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: today that are balancing particles around. It's just the fields 505 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: now have different properties. They operate differently, they contain energy differently, 506 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: they have different strengths. As the universe is coolest, so 507 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: gravity split off, but it's not like bringing anything together 508 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: because there is no thing. Well, gravity is doing what 509 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: gravity does. It's you know, the bending of space. But 510 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, even talking about merging gravity with these other 511 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: forces requires a conceptual leap that we haven't made yet, 512 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: which is thinking about gravity as a quantum field, which 513 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: we don't know how to do, especially in the early universe. 514 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: So we are really out on very thin ice, or 515 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: conceptually would like maybe if gravity can be unified with 516 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: the other forces, then it was the first thing to 517 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: split off of some mega force which might exist. And 518 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: I can't emphasize enough how much respeculating cluelessly here, Okay, right, right, 519 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: if gravity is a quantum field, this is kind of 520 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: what we might expect. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But it's not 521 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: like we have a firm prediction that we can like 522 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: interrogate and explore. It's just like, hopefully somebody clever comes 523 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: along and figures out how to make gravity quantum field 524 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: and maybe it would work like this. All right, So 525 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: now that and we split off the strong force, now 526 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: we have more forces, and then something dramatic happens at 527 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: around ten to the minus thirty two seconds. Right, Yeah, 528 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: here's where the excitement really happens, and we don't know why, 529 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: but we think at this point, for some reason, the 530 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: universe started to expand extraordinarily rapidly, like space itself expanded, 531 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: not just stuff flying through space slashing around, but space 532 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: itself got stretched. Remember that space can expand based on 533 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: the mass that's in it, Like we know the space 534 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: is expanding right now. In their current universe is something 535 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: called dark energy, which is creating new space, not just 536 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: pulling on space, not pushing things further apart through space, 537 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: but actually like adding new bits of space between galaxies. 538 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: So that can definitely happen, and we know that it 539 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: did happen in the very early which were created more space. 540 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: The universe just started just creating at a crazy rate. Right. 541 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: It's the kind of this kind of the bang in 542 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: the Big Bang theory. Yeah, this is sort of the 543 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: bang and the Big Bang theory. I mean, originally people 544 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: thought of the Big Bang is like a dot and 545 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: things explode through space. These days, we have this period 546 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about now, which we call inflation, and then 547 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: we think of the hot Big Bang is basically at 548 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: the very end of inflation. But you know, the terms 549 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: are a little fuzzy, but essentially here you have the 550 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: biggest bang. I mean, the universe expands by a ridiculous amount. 551 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: It's ten to the seventy eight ten ten to zero. 552 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: So you take a piece of space that's like a 553 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 1: nanometer across, very very quickly, in like ten to the 554 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: minus thirty two seconds, you expanded to a hundred trillion kilometers. Crazy. 555 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: So in ten to the minus thirty two point zero 556 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: zero zeros one seconds, the universe for some reason just 557 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: was like come out of here. Yeah, exactly, And and 558 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: we don't know why. We we have, like you know, 559 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: given fancy names to this theory to make it sound 560 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: like it's a thing we know how to deal with. 561 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: We call the inflation theory. We think maybe it was 562 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: generated by the inflaton field, but that's really just like saying, oh, 563 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, the answer is a fluctuation in my cluelessness field, 564 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: like I really just don't know. For this into the 565 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: framework of ideas, so it sounds clever, so they're like, oh, 566 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: they blew up. And it could be, you know, that 567 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: it's triggered by the electroweak breaking that like maybe breaking 568 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: off the strong force from the electroweak force created the 569 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: infloton field or settled the infloton field into a way 570 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: that made it do this crazy expansion. But this is 571 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: guessing upon guess. We are very confident that inflation happened. 572 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean the things that it predicts are very specific 573 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: and very concrete. You know, like before inflation, the universe 574 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: is very hot and dense, but not totally uniform because 575 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: it's quantum mechanical, and so you get subspots that have 576 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: like little quantum fluctuations of a little bit more density 577 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: and quantum fluctuation is a little bit less density, really 578 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: really tiny variations. But then this inflation is stretching, turns 579 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: those little seeds of over densities into big structures which 580 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: then form the structure of the universe. And we can 581 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: do all those simulations and it describes very well what 582 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: we see today is thing. And I guess one question 583 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: is where did all the space come from? Like when 584 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: you make space, does it require energy? Yeah, we don't 585 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: really know. I mean, we know that the universe is 586 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: not closed, and so an energy conservation is not required 587 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: by general relativity to make space, you don't need energy. Maybe, well, 588 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: you know space is energy, like space has energy in it. 589 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: When you create space, it has all these fields, and 590 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: those fields have energy in them, and so when you 591 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: create space, it's like creating energy. So it's not something 592 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: that we understand. It's not something we know how to do, 593 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: or that we understand the rules about. We see it 594 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: happening in our current universe. We don't understand the mechanism 595 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: behind it. We call it dark energy because we're clueless. 596 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: We know that it happened in the very early universe. 597 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's the same mechanism, maybe it's something totally different. 598 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: We really just don't know, all right, So now we're 599 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: getting almost to the two microsecond mark, So let's finish 600 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: off what happens in the first two microseconds, and then 601 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: we'll go on to our next question. But first let's 602 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: to get quick break, all right, Daniel, we just exploded 603 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: the universe. We just went through inflation. In the first 604 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: tent of the minus thirty two seconds, one ter became 605 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: a hundred trillion kilometers. Now things are expanding like crazy. 606 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: Quantum fluctuations make a huge difference. Now what happens now 607 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: we finally get particles. Things have cooled down enough that 608 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: the energy that's in the field is distinct and discretized, 609 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: and you can follow it around. You can say, oh, 610 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: this little blob of energy in the electron field is 611 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: moving through space in a coherent way. You can call 612 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: this an electron and the same for the other fields. 613 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: And so you start to get particles made, and you 614 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: get the last moment of breaking that we're aware of 615 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: the electro weak force, which at the time was just 616 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: one force. You know, there wasn't like a separate photon 617 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: and W n z bosons acting separately. It was a 618 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: single force with four of its own bosons. This field 619 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: now breaks, and it breaks into electromagnetism and the weak force. 620 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 1: It becomes two forces. It becomes two forces that are 621 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: still closely connected. I mean, they're two broken pieces of 622 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: a larger force. You can sort of like fit them 623 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: together roughly the way you can fit continents together, you know, 624 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: like you can think of the mega continent breaks into 625 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: little continents and now they're a little different, but the 626 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: contours sort of match, and so you can think about 627 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: their history. Right, And this is another example spontaneous symmetry. 628 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: Breaking the Higgs field gives the photon no mass, and 629 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: it gives the ws and z s a lot of mass, 630 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, the weak force becomes really 631 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: really weak. Interesting, and so then that's what kind of 632 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: gives rise to the Higgs field, which is the one 633 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: that gives mass to everything. Yeah, so the Higgs field, 634 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,719 Speaker 1: like all the other field started out really hot. It 635 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: was cooling down and cooling down, and most of the 636 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: other fields they like settled down to zero, but the 637 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: Higgs field got stuck, got stuck at a certain point 638 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: where it couldn't go any lower because it has a 639 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: really weird shape to It's like you know, on the 640 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: edge of a canyon wall. It's got a little like 641 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: dip in it, so you can get stuck in a 642 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: little like on the precipice, like a little buzz right, 643 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: And it got stuck there. And because it got stuck 644 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: there and not somewhere else, it gave mass to the 645 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: ws and disease, but not the photon and also to 646 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: the other part of it. So all the other particles 647 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: their mass then gets fixed because the Higgs field got 648 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: stuck at this value. And before so before that we 649 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: didn't have mass, or we just didn't have like consistent mass, 650 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: or you can't even talk about mass. It's harder to 651 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: talk about mass before. The particles really are like separate, 652 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: identifiable spots. But the mass of the particles depends on 653 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: the energy of the Higgs field. So as the universe 654 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: is cooling down and the Higgs field is cooling down, 655 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: you can think of it as like the masses of 656 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 1: the particles are decreasing because the Higgs field is cooling down. 657 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: All right, So now all of our forces are in motion. 658 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: Now they're in play, and particles now exist, which is 659 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: crazy to think about that. We didn't have particles before. Yeah, 660 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: and now they have mass or they interact with the 661 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: Higgs field, and and so is that then? Kind of 662 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: is that it like is it a straight line from 663 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: there to here? Or are there there still things we 664 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know. There's a lot of things we don't know, 665 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: but it's basically a straight line. I mean, now you 666 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: have particles, and the interactions in play are the ones 667 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: we're familiar with. There's electromagnetic fields, the weak force, the 668 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 1: strong force, there's gravity. But you know, it's still pretty 669 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: hard to understand, Like it's a hot, dense and nasty mess. 670 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: Like it's mostly quarks and leftons, but they are too 671 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: hot to form any larger particles, Like you don't have 672 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: protons and neutrons and stuff like that, which are bound 673 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: states books just quarks quarks and flying around annihilating each other, 674 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,479 Speaker 1: constantly turning into photons, turning back into particles. It's still 675 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: hot and dense, and then things are cooling off, so 676 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: like you know about after one micro second you get 677 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: this cork glue on plasma. Things start to cool off, 678 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 1: and then you get things like protons and neutrons and whatever. 679 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: And there's a really interesting mystery there about like what 680 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 1: happened to all the anti matter. If everything was symmetric, 681 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 1: you would expect the fields to create like as much 682 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: matter and antimatter should all annihilate into a universe filled 683 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: with light. But instead there was some asymmetry there. We 684 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: ended up with like a little bit more matter than antimatter. 685 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: Most of it is gone, but a little bit of 686 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: matter or was left, and that's what led in a 687 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: straight line to where we are today. I think the 688 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: lesson here is a lot happened in the first two 689 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,959 Speaker 1: hundred microseconds. We missed the big party. I just feel 690 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: like we went through an hour of just to cover 691 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: a two d microseconds. That's amazing, So a lot happened, right, 692 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: and a lot could have happened. Yeah, the history of 693 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: the universe has been pretty boring ever since. You know, 694 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: like most of the excitement was in the first few 695 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: tiny slices of time, and ever since then it's been 696 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: pretty slow. But you know, think about it, like on 697 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: the cosmic time scale, like trillions and quadrillions of years, 698 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: it could be that, you know, intelligent species in septillion years. 699 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: Think about the first few billion years of the universe 700 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: as like, you know, the first moments, because you know, 701 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: it could be that the universe is very different in 702 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: a trillion years, that it's all just black holes separated 703 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: by vast distances or something else forms. You know, there's 704 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: so many fascinating emergent phenomena they're really hard to anticipate, 705 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: and so you know, maybe this will seem exciting to 706 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: people who come much much later. Yeah, I'm sure they'll say, like, 707 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: you know, that day where they post the two hundred 708 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: episode of Daniel and Horge Explained the Universe, that's the 709 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: equal zero to us. That's when that's when the party 710 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: really started. Before then, it's not even really worth there, 711 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: all right, Well, I think the answer is a lot 712 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: happened in the first two hundred microseconds of the universe, 713 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: which is amazing. All right, we have one more question here. 714 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 1: I think we might have to talk about it in 715 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: two hundred microseconds, Daniel. But the question is pretty interesting. 716 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 1: It's something I thought about as we try to brainstorm 717 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: ideas for this episode. But the question is what can 718 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: we find within two hundred light years of Earth? So 719 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: I guess, first of all, how much is two hundred 720 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 1: light years? Like a few Brazilian kilometers? Yeah, a light 721 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: year is really far. So a light year is like 722 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: nine point five times ten to the twelve kilometers. That's 723 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: why we use light years, because the distances in the 724 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: universe are so vast the kilometers become an absurd unity. 725 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: So it's like two hundred million million kilometers. So if 726 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: you could hop in a spaceship and go two hundred 727 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: million million kilometers, where could we go visit? Yeah? So 728 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: mostly the universe is empty. You know, you pick our 729 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: random spot outside the Solar system and you go in 730 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,360 Speaker 1: a straight line, you'll see nothing for two hundred light years. Like, 731 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: it's just not much there. The universe is not very 732 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: dense anymore. And you know, I read these science fiction 733 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: novels about people flying through space and like hitting asteroid 734 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: fields and bumping into stars, and I'm like, it's just 735 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: not that much stuff out there. Likely, No, It's like 736 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: swimming in the ocean. How often do you really encounter 737 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,399 Speaker 1: a desert island? Like? Really not that often? Oh, I see, 738 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: that's a good analogy. Like if you were in the 739 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: middle of the ocean and you went a few hundred kilometers, 740 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: you know, what are the chances that you'll hit another island? 741 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: Pretty small? Yeah, pretty small. It's mostly just ocean out there. 742 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: But there are things out there, and mostly within two 743 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 1: hundred light years of Earth. There are a bunch of stars, 744 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: but you know, not that close. Like the closest star really, 745 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: once you leave our Solar system, the closest thing that 746 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: you can find to our Solar system is a star 747 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: called Proximus Centauri. It's about four point two light years away. 748 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: It's done the name of an Avengers villain. I feel 749 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: like I've heard that name before. Are you auditioning to 750 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: be in the next Marvel movie? That's what happening here? 751 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: To be the voiceover? I think Proximate can Centauri, the 752 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: Marvel villain can do two hundred accents. So if you 753 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 1: really want to audition, then we've got to hear some accents. Yeah, 754 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: all right, so that's the nearest star. I guess how 755 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: how many stars can we find within two hundred light years? 756 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 1: You know, surprisingly, you can find a lot of stars. Now, 757 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: on one hand, stars are not very dense. I mean, 758 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 1: in our galactic neighborhood, there's about one star per two 759 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty cubic light years. But as the radius 760 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: of your sphere grows, the volume of it goes up 761 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: very quickly, goes up with radius cubed. So a sphere 762 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: with radius two hundred light years has a lot of 763 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: cubic light years, like thirty million. If you go at 764 00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: about two hundred light years, there's something like, you know, 765 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: tens of thousands or maybe a hundred thousand stars in 766 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: that volume. Really, yeah, I could visit a hundred thousand 767 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: stars within two hundred light years. Yes, But you know, 768 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: if you travel in a straight line two hundred years, 769 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: you would probably find very small number of stars. If 770 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: you completely visited a spear with radius two hundred light years, 771 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: would be a hundred thousand stars there. But you know, 772 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: like the list of destinations I can go. Is it's 773 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: like a hundred thousand stars. Yeah, there's a lot of options. 774 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you like decisions and you like choices, 775 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: then there's a lot of options. Most of them are 776 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: pretty far away. I mean, the vast majority of those 777 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,800 Speaker 1: hundred thousand are on a thin shell on the outside 778 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: of that sphere, mostly because that's where most of the 779 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: volume is. But they say that, you know, about one 780 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: in five star has an Earth like planet, So we're 781 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: talking about like there's twenty thousand earthlike planets I could visit. Yeah, 782 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: there are definitely a lot of Earth like planets, and 783 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: we think that most of those solar systems have planets 784 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: like multiple planets, which is fascinating. We don't know a 785 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 1: lot about like what those solar systems look like, and 786 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,360 Speaker 1: how often do you get big gas giants and rocky 787 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: inner worlds, And is our solar system unusual or totally typical. 788 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: Something that is unusual about our solar system that you'll 789 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: discover as you look around in the solar system is 790 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 1: how many solar systems have multiple stars. Like in the 791 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: closest fifteen light years is like fifty something stars, and 792 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: about half of them are single stars, just like a 793 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 1: star with planets around it. But there's like ten of 794 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: them that are binary systems, like two stars orbiting each 795 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,800 Speaker 1: other and then planets around the wo that's common. That's common. 796 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: And even within fifteen light years there are four systems 797 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,439 Speaker 1: that are trinary systems that have three stars in orbit 798 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 1: around each other. That's pretty cool. So in Star Wars 799 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: when Luke is looking out at the two suns on 800 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: the horizon, that's like maybe more common than you think. 801 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: That's not rare. It's a lot more common than you think. 802 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: And if you think about how things form, you start 803 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 1: from a big cloud and things cold less, and so 804 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: it's not necessary for its all coalesceent to one really 805 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: big blob in the center of a solar system. If 806 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: you have like a little bit of density here, in 807 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of density there, it can form two. 808 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: Or if two stars form close enough to each other, 809 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: they'll pull on each other and form one of these systems. 810 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,719 Speaker 1: Some listeners send me an awesome question recently. He said, 811 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: are there any stars out there that have sort of 812 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: two planetary disks, Like one planetary disc aligned in one 813 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: way and then the second one aligned you know, at 814 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: an angle to it like two hula hoops. Yeah, like 815 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: two hula hoops. And I don't know if one, but 816 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: there's no reason to think there couldn't be. Like if 817 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: you had two solar systems that sort of merged and 818 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: the stars combined in the center, or you get a 819 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: binary star system in the center, they could keep each 820 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: of their planetary disks and it would be at different angles, 821 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: and so that could totally happen. I think that would 822 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: be an awesome setting for a science fiction right, but 823 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: every year you go around the Sun, you'll be like, 824 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: watch out for those other this other planet is would 825 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: be a drama every year. It would have to work 826 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: like clockwork, but it might make for some pretty cool 827 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: nighttime observations. All right, cool, So there's about a hundred 828 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: thousand stars within two hundred light years. What else can 829 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: we find in this bubble? Well, it's mostly it. I 830 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: mean in the galaxy we have stars. Of course, we 831 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: have gas clouds, which are the birthplace of stars, but 832 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: there aren't any of those within two hundred light years. 833 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: Like the closest one is about four hundred and something 834 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: light years away. It's called Taurus, and it's where stars 835 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: are being born. There are stars in there. They're like 836 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: one or two million years old, But we don't have 837 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: any of those big blobs inside our like two hundred 838 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: light year windows, because like a cluster itself is pretty big. 839 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: It's almost as big as two hundred light years. Yeah, 840 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: some of these gas clouds are are hundreds of light 841 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 1: years across. They're really vast. There's like the birthing regions 842 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: of stars. But there is a cluster of stars. Like 843 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: there's a big major cluster of stars. It's called the 844 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: Hyades cluster, and it's about a hundred and fifty light 845 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: years away. It's like six hundred something million years old, 846 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: and it's just like a big blob of stars that 847 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: are all together. It's probably comes from a really dense 848 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: region of of gas and molecules that got formed early on, 849 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: and so that's like a big blob of stars. So 850 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: I see, oh wow, that must be pretty amazing to 851 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: go near or to visit there. Yeah, And you know, 852 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: if you're looking to visit a lot of stars and a 853 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: a lot of planets at once, it's probably a good destination. 854 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: On the other hand, it's a hundred and fifty light 855 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: years away, so it's to take you a while to 856 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: get there. Well, I think this kind of tells you 857 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: how big the universe is, you know, two hundred light years, 858 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: Like that's even like if we prolong human life and 859 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: double it and was able to go at the speed 860 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 1: of light, that's as far as like any one person 861 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: could probably go without any kind of special awards beat 862 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: or wormhole, right. Yeah, And you know the thing that's 863 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: furthest away, the human device that's furthest away from the 864 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: Solar system right now is voyage or one. It's traveling 865 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: at sixty one thousand kilometers per hour, and if it 866 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: kept going, it would take another seventy thousand years to 867 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: reach the nearest star. Like, these distances are just incredible, 868 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: and it's already eighteen billion kilometers away from us, but 869 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: that's just like a tiny fraction of the distance to 870 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: approximates centauri. I see, seventy thousand years, that's like what 871 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: three thousand more episodes, Daniel, I got all those ideas. Yeah, 872 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: I've sketched them out already. You would really like to 873 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: work ahead. Yeah, And you know, if you think about 874 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: the larger context you know of our galaxy. Our galaxy 875 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,760 Speaker 1: is a hundred thousand light years across. So a bubble 876 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 1: two hundred light years is really a tiny neighborhood. You know, 877 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: the Sun itself is just like is twenty something thousand 878 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,800 Speaker 1: light years from the center of the galaxy. So even 879 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,760 Speaker 1: like the most we might right now could imagine traveling 880 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,719 Speaker 1: to for a single human is is a drop in 881 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: the bucket of the size of our galaxy. Yeah, if 882 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: you were looking at a map of the galaxy, you 883 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't even notice that distance, right, Wow, alright, Well, I 884 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: feel like we covered a lot in the first two 885 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: seconds this podcast. And uh, we also got this kind 886 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: of amazing view of how big the galaxy is and 887 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 1: spaces and how empty it is. It's incredible how dense 888 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 1: and hot the universe used to be and how big 889 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: and cold it is today, and yet it's still filled 890 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: with mystery and our whole concept of the universe, where 891 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: it came from, how it began, what it looks like now, 892 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: what's out there could be totally rocked by discoveries that 893 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: are coming, discoveries made by scientists working today, over by 894 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: somebody out there listening to this podcast right now that's thinking, Hey, 895 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,160 Speaker 1: maybe I could crack one of the biggest questions in 896 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,799 Speaker 1: the universe because you know you could. Yeah, yeah, and 897 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 1: then we'll cover it here in our episode. That's right, 898 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: And so I want to say a personal thank you 899 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: to all the fans and listeners for tuning into all 900 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: these episodes, for sending us supportive messages, for letting us 901 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: know that you're enjoying what you're hearing, and for sharing 902 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: with us all of your wonder and your curiosity, and 903 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 1: for going on this crazy journey with us. Absolutely believe 904 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: we wouldn't be doing this without you. And thanks also 905 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: for letting all your friends know and all your context 906 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: note because the more people that are listening, the more 907 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: episodes we can make. All right, well, thanks again for 908 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: helping us celebrate our two hundred episode. We hope you 909 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: enjoyed that. See you next time. Thanks for listening, and 910 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: remember that Daniel and Jorge Explain the Universe is a 911 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. For more podcast For my 912 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 913 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows