Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour on this Thursday, Dan and the
Speaker 1: Danist Dan Patrick Show. I want to thank Peacock, our
Speaker 1: streaming partner. The reaction to our streaming partner has been
Speaker 1: wonderful since we joined them. Thank you for the support
Speaker 1: and our radio affiliates around the country. In case you
Speaker 1: can't watch the show, you can certainly listen to the show. Also,
Speaker 1: our podcast is one of the more popular podcasts of
Speaker 1: any sports broadcast, and thank you for your support. Our
Speaker 1: stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America,
Speaker 1: the official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. Spend
Speaker 1: some time with the NBA Commissioner Adam Silver last Home.
Speaker 1: Touched on a variety of things, including maybe the Saudi's
Speaker 1: wanting to invest in an NBA team. He said that
Speaker 1: a group can't, but you have to have an individual
Speaker 1: who does. We also talked about John Morant and we
Speaker 1: talked about the report that the second video was a
Speaker 1: toy gun, and he said, well, he treated the first
Speaker 1: one as if it were a toy and it sounded
Speaker 1: like that he's not going to be lenient because this
Speaker 1: might have been a toy gun. The second video. All right,
Speaker 1: coming up, we'll talk to Roger Bennett, one of the
Speaker 1: great voices for soccer as Lionel Messi has decided to
Speaker 1: join MLS in Miami and or Milan. The Son's looking
Speaker 1: to cut Chris Paul. It's not official, but there's a
Speaker 1: chance you could cut him and then resign him for
Speaker 1: a lot less. This is a salary cap move. Is
Speaker 1: there a possibility goes back home to Los Angeles? And
Speaker 1: would the Clippers be interested or more likely the Lakers?
Speaker 1: And his friendship with Lebron James. Does Lebron want him?
Speaker 1: You know, at some point you have to go. Does
Speaker 1: he make our team better? Hey, you're my buddy. That
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I have to play on the same team
Speaker 1: with you. What can Chris Paul give you? Also, we
Speaker 1: spend some time with Chris Haynes from Bleacher Report. We
Speaker 1: talked about Dame Lillard. He had spoken to Dame yesterday
Speaker 1: and I brought up some teams, including Boston. He's like, no, no,
Speaker 1: he is not going to Boston. Maybe the Brooklyn Nets
Speaker 1: if that happens. I could see that. He did say
Speaker 1: if he had the opportunity, Miami because he's friends with
Speaker 1: Bam Adebayo. The game last night was not much of
Speaker 1: a game unless you're a Denver Nugget fan. Joker thirty
Speaker 1: two to twenty one and ten. The last time that
Speaker 1: we had a line of those numbers. You have to
Speaker 1: go back to Kareem Abdul Jabbar in nineteen seventy with
Speaker 1: a thirty twenty and ten, Wilt Chamberlain in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1: Then you have Jamal Murray who went thirty four to
Speaker 1: ten and ten. So the first teammates to record triple
Speaker 1: doubles in the same NBA Finals game never happened before.
Speaker 1: And Joker now has one hundred points so far through
Speaker 1: three games in the NBA Finals, the fifth player to
Speaker 1: score at least one hundred. The other ones were Rick Berry,
Speaker 1: Alan Iverson, Willis Reid and the Greek freak whoa.
Speaker 2: Sad of the day, best stead of the day stat
Speaker 2: of the day?
Speaker 1: Here comes, here comes that? What stat of the day?
Speaker 1: I'm wondering about Jerry West. When Jerry averaged forty points
Speaker 1: a game in the NBA Finals and that was that
Speaker 1: against the Knicks or the Celtics. Was that nineteen sixty nine?
Speaker 1: I think he averaged forty eight games was that the
Speaker 1: Celtics and Bill Russell's last title, PAULI.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty four to sixty five.
Speaker 3: Jerry West averaged forty point six a game in that
Speaker 3: playoffs over eleven game span.
Speaker 1: What did he average in the NBA Finals though.
Speaker 2: The finals that year or the sixty.
Speaker 1: Nine Well, I just remember he was putting up these
Speaker 1: monster numbers and we were talking about Joker getting to
Speaker 1: one hundred points after three games. I'm assuming that Jerry West,
Speaker 1: if you're averaging forty, you probably came pretty close to
Speaker 1: that through the first three games.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I got in Jerry West in the NBA Finals versus
Speaker 3: Boston sixty nine. Yeah, I got him going fifty three,
Speaker 3: forty one, twenty four and then forty thirty nine.
Speaker 4: Damn.
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's probably after about forty one a game there.
Speaker 1: Do you imagine you're putting up those numbers against one
Speaker 1: of the great teams of all time, the best defensive
Speaker 1: center of all time, the greatest coach of all time
Speaker 1: in Red Arback, and then you don't win.
Speaker 3: In Game one, Jerry West had fifty three points, ten assists. Ah,
Speaker 3: he shot forty took forty one shots, hit twenty one
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 1: He just played differently. He's the first player I remember
Speaker 1: him and Elgin Baylor, they played differently than everybody else
Speaker 1: in the NBA. And you know, Wilt was athletic, and
Speaker 1: Bill Russell, but as far as skill position players like
Speaker 1: a guard, Jerry was maybe the first that I remember.
Speaker 1: Oscar was a very talented athletic player, but I remember
Speaker 1: Jerry West was playing a different game than the guys
Speaker 1: he was playing against. They're shooting shots out of the
Speaker 1: movie Hoosiers, and Jerry's down there, you know, quick dribble
Speaker 1: and you know, jumping, hitting these jumpers. And Elgin Baylor
Speaker 1: as well. I saw Elgin the last year and he
Speaker 1: had suffered a knee injury. I never got to see
Speaker 1: him as being one of the great great players of
Speaker 1: all time. He missed out because of the TV era.
Speaker 1: I saw Wilt at the very end when he was
Speaker 1: a defensive minded player, and then got to see Kareem
Speaker 1: when he first came in. I never saw Bill Russell.
Speaker 1: I was having dinner with a friend last night. We were
Speaker 1: talking about all the players that I'd seen and all
Speaker 1: the games that I'd been to, and Russell was the
Speaker 1: one I did not get to see in person. But
Speaker 1: got to see just about everybody else in the modern
Speaker 1: era who's played the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, poem, this is May of sixty nine, Lakers Boston Celtics.
Speaker 3: I got the game seven box score, and Jerry West
Speaker 3: had forty two, thirteen and twelve in a losing effort.
Speaker 3: I was wondering what NBA Finals game or a playoff
Speaker 3: game had the most Hall of Famers on the court
Speaker 3: at one time. I would think it'd be like maybe
Speaker 3: a Lake is Boston from the eighties, but this one
Speaker 3: had Hailcheck, Bill Russell, Sam Jones, Don Nelson, Jerry West,
Speaker 3: Elgin Baylor, Wilt Chamberlain. That's what that's that's six Hall
Speaker 3: of famers right on the court between.
Speaker 2: The two teams.
Speaker 1: I think it's more than that.
Speaker 2: Probably more than six. Yeah, probably look at seven.
Speaker 1: Well, if you had Sam Jones, Casey Jones, you had Halchak, Heinsen,
Speaker 1: Bill Russell, Red arbroughn.
Speaker 3: No Tommy Heinsen on this one, okay, But with the Lakers,
Speaker 3: you had West, Baylor, Chamberlain, Keith Erickson, Johnny Egan, Melcounts.
Speaker 2: Tom Hawkins.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder for one of those eighties Celtics Lakers,
Speaker 1: Bill Sharman was he the head coach of the Lakers
Speaker 1: then because he played with the Celtics, and I think
Speaker 1: it was a Hall of Famer as well. But I
Speaker 1: would imagine, you know, the entire Celtics team, we're Hall
Speaker 1: of famers. But then you have you know, Bird Mchalen, Parrish,
Speaker 1: Dennis Johnson, all Hall of famers. Bill Walton was on
Speaker 1: the eighty six team. Hall of Famer. Casey Jones was
Speaker 1: the head coach, I believe, or Tommy Heins and and
Speaker 1: if you're going against Magic, Kareem Worthy, Wilkes or McAdoo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: both of those guys. Is Jamal Wilkes in the Basketball
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, I believe, and Bob McAdoo is yes, wow,
Speaker 1: and then pat Riley Hall of Famer. I don't know
Speaker 1: if anybody else. It feels like it'd be Lakers in Celtics.
Speaker 1: Those are the two most decorated teams in NBA or
Speaker 1: franchises in NBA history. Yes, Mark.
Speaker 4: The only thing that comes close to me is maybe
Speaker 4: like heat Spurs in like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Okay, we have probably like four on one side, four
Speaker 2: and the other.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul, how about this question, which NBA Finals had
Speaker 3: the least amount of Hall of Famers on all sides,
Speaker 3: like this NBA Finals, Yokich clearly on his way. Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of a lot of postseason people
Speaker 3: like him, and his story is good.
Speaker 1: I think if Reggie Miller is in, then Jimmy Butler
Speaker 1: is going to get in. Yeah. They think they're they're
Speaker 1: similar players from regular season numbers are just okay. Postseason
Speaker 1: numbers oh okay, trying to think.
Speaker 2: I don't think Kevin loves getting in.
Speaker 1: No, he's not.
Speaker 2: He had a good his first five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he did. He had incredible numbers in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Kyle Lowry's not a Hall of Famer. Eric Spolster is
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, So i'd have Joker. I don't
Speaker 1: know about Jamal Murray maybe down the road, Uh Auto,
Speaker 1: let's see, uh, Michael Porter Junior, the third No, no
Speaker 1: he's not not yet. No, no, no, no, not yet.
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon, no, anybody else that's in there. The Spurs
Speaker 1: had when you had Duncan Robinson, Janobili, Parker Hall of Famers,
Speaker 1: Popovich Hall of Famer, the heat with Spolster or pat Riley,
Speaker 1: you had Lebron, d way Aid, Ray Allen Hall of Famers,
Speaker 1: Chris Bosh, Hall of Famer. Yeah, quite a few of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. Uh, Pritty has a do you have a
Speaker 1: sports centered tease?
Speaker 4: I do?
Speaker 1: Do you have mock headline?
Speaker 2: Sports on t so?
Speaker 4: Mock headline's kind of mixed in like we like to
Speaker 4: do as a sports oner tees.
Speaker 1: Are you going to use the phrase messy situation in Miami?
Speaker 2: Very likely?
Speaker 4: Okay, it's just screaming to be used, and as unoriginal
Speaker 4: as it may be, it is in the mix.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5: Can I just say, is he going to say? What
Speaker 5: are they spolstra do guaranteed?
Speaker 6: Wow? You guys could have just written miss for me.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not hard. I've heard it before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do call back a couple of lines where needed.
Speaker 1: Any other lines that we think? Is it like live
Speaker 1: and there?
Speaker 2: I'm not yoking. This is a great finals.
Speaker 5: All right, go ahead to Wyami. Here here you go,
Speaker 5: here hit the theme, Thanks for humoring.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, Sports Center, Cheeves, time, Frits,
Speaker 1: everybody coming up on Sports Center.
Speaker 4: A pair of triple double spells, double trouble for the
Speaker 4: Heat on South Beach. Now, what's Miami's supposter.
Speaker 1: Do to contain Joker and Murray in Game four?
Speaker 4: If things got messy less than on Top Beach, it's about.
Speaker 1: To get even more messy. We'll explain sooners or later.
Speaker 2: They'll get there.
Speaker 4: Props why you should be talking about Oklahoma softball?
Speaker 1: How not to live your best life?
Speaker 4: How one golfs incentive comments left the social media gallery stunned.
Speaker 4: Speaking of stunned, they shocked the Bruins, So why the
Speaker 4: Panthers coming up? Snake eyes in Vegas plus hallbearers? Are
Speaker 4: the Suns saying goodbye to a future Hall of Famer? Well,
Speaker 4: we're here to say Sports.
Speaker 2: Center, it's next. I gotta tell you I like Paul
Speaker 2: be Yeah, that's sneaky.
Speaker 5: Yeah, homage little Keith.
Speaker 1: Oh look who's here with NBA Finals mock headline? It's
Speaker 1: Ryan in Honolulu?
Speaker 7: Hello, had Dan?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I.
Speaker 7: Heard, I heard you want me to be a little
Speaker 7: less friend.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you don't have to. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I have to take off my headphones because you exactly.
Speaker 1: That's why I want you to be you Ryan. Oh, Well,
Speaker 1: that's always going to happen. So I'm all high on
Speaker 1: the NBA Finals, Dan, I'm Kevin loving it right now?
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, last where okay Braun again, Christian rewarding coach
Speaker 8: Malone's faith.
Speaker 1: All right, well it's brown brown again. It's spelled ita'st Braun.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, it's all right, we're just mind it details.
Speaker 1: Ok all right, here we go, Miami fans, cool off.
Speaker 7: If you can't stand the heat, get.
Speaker 1: Out of the stadium or arena.
Speaker 4: Okay, Jamal, you can eat money, order the triple double.
Speaker 1: Burger, right, all right, you're saving the good ones.
Speaker 2: He's in the hall.
Speaker 8: The joker is Jack of all trades, King of Miami.
Speaker 7: South of Gods.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, maybe they weren't then very good today, Dan,
Speaker 1: But I had a few nuggets, all right, thank you?
Speaker 1: All right, I had some nuggets.
Speaker 2: Three forty five am.
Speaker 1: Where he's doing it? Oh, I know, I know, I appreciate.
Speaker 1: I appreciate Ryan getting up early in Honolulu. Update the
Speaker 1: poll results. If you can see, okonnor from previous hours
Speaker 1: or what we're going with this, Dan, last hour we
Speaker 1: had up there.
Speaker 5: How much better of a commissioner is Adam Silver than
Speaker 5: Roder Goodell one hundred and ten percent, one thousand percent.
Speaker 5: We didn't really put that's there. I was just kidding.
Speaker 5: I was just kidding.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put up there.
Speaker 5: Most people believe that this series NBA NBA Finals is
Speaker 5: going six games.
Speaker 1: We're gonna throw up there.
Speaker 5: Will you watch more MLS because Lionel Messi is joining
Speaker 5: Inner Miami, you know it?
Speaker 1: Maybe? Or Okay, I won't. I'll watch the highlights. I'll
Speaker 1: be curious, you know, maybe his debut maybe, But I
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to be glued to
Speaker 1: their terrible team and uh, they're about to get good though,
Speaker 1: do you think so? Yeah, the three of them coming,
Speaker 1: you might be surprised. Who else are they bringing.
Speaker 5: Uh, they're talking about one of his old teammates from
Speaker 5: Barcelona Busquets. Don't say the word, you know, one of
Speaker 5: his former teammates. Pardon me, pardon me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They talk about Anhilde Maria who could still play a
Speaker 5: little bit. He's kind of he's a little older, but
Speaker 5: he could still play. They're talking about him leaving Europe
Speaker 5: and coming over here to join Messi too. That would
Speaker 5: be exciting. Actually, the two of them again, okay.
Speaker 1: Are we more excited Messi's come here, or that European Soccer,
Speaker 1: Global Soccer is disappointed that Messi is leaving Seaton. As
Speaker 1: our soccer correspondent.
Speaker 5: I don't, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know how.
Speaker 5: I don't know about the disappointment part because I felt
Speaker 5: like once Messi left Barcelona that was sort of the
Speaker 5: end of the era right there. And then I think
Speaker 5: it's Bartholona. Batholona's part of me. Once he left there,
Speaker 5: that was sort of and his stop at PSG was
Speaker 5: kind of a joke, and now this is just the
Speaker 5: next stop in the end of his career. I think
Speaker 5: Europe is looking at it, so yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 5: think the US is more excited than Europe is disappointed.
Speaker 1: Is he a better player than Wayne Rooney was or
Speaker 1: Terrynree when they came over?
Speaker 5: I would say definitely Wayne Rooney. He could still play,
Speaker 5: There's no doubt of it. I mean, he's older, but
Speaker 5: he could absolutely still play.
Speaker 1: Plus, this isn't a great league that he's in as
Speaker 1: far as competition goes.
Speaker 5: It's dropping down a little bit. Yeah, Like I would
Speaker 5: say mls' is probably like a top fifteen, maybe like
Speaker 5: thirteen something like that in the world, and I think
Speaker 5: I think, you know, the French League that he's just
Speaker 5: coming from was like, I don't know, somewhere like four
Speaker 5: or five something like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he should be able to play. Well, we'll
Speaker 1: get to Roger Bennett menon Blazers, he'll join us. We'll
Speaker 1: get some more phone calls as well. Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We're back after this. In the Dan Patrick Show, Get
Speaker 1: Refunds dot Com Thank you. I've got a lot of
Speaker 1: responses from people saying that they didn't know about it.
Speaker 1: They took advantage of this and they got money back.
Speaker 1: ERC Tax Refunds Now got ahead of myself here, Innovation Refunds.
Speaker 1: They helped start Get Refunds dot Com and they are
Speaker 1: helping small businesses with their ERC tax refunds. These are
Speaker 1: refunds that you get. Innovation Refunds has already completed over
Speaker 1: seventeen thousand returns and they've all they I think they've
Speaker 1: helped clean about five billion dollars in payroll tax refunds
Speaker 1: for their clients through the ERC. They might be able
Speaker 1: to help you as well. Takes about eight minutes. That's
Speaker 1: the process, and then you could be fine if you're
Speaker 1: going to receive money for your business. And we're talking
Speaker 1: about construction and retail and restaurants and bars and hotels,
Speaker 1: and it's small businesses. And maybe you went through the government,
Speaker 1: maybe you tried to try this and the process can
Speaker 1: be complicated, but the experience to navigate the process innovation
Speaker 1: refunds can help you get started. Go to get refunds
Speaker 1: dot com or download the app from the app stored today.
Speaker 1: That's get refunds dot com. Thanks for listening to The
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live
Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live
Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Roger Bennett, founder of Men and Blazers,
Speaker 1: he'll join us coming up in a couple of minutes. Here,
Speaker 1: I want to bring back the part of the conversation
Speaker 1: I had with Commissioner Silver on Jahn Morant not having
Speaker 1: a ruling right now and the report that it was
Speaker 1: a toy gun in the second video. Is the Jare
Speaker 1: investigation over. We're just waiting for the finals to be
Speaker 1: over to announce the decision.
Speaker 6: The latter we are waiting for the finals to be over.
Speaker 6: I'm aware, of course, of his reports on social media
Speaker 6: about you know, whether the gun was in fact a gun,
Speaker 6: and so we haven't completely.
Speaker 2: Wrapped it up.
Speaker 1: Do we have any more on that.
Speaker 6: It's the very issue is for job, certainly in the
Speaker 6: first incident, was treating a gun as a toy. That's
Speaker 6: what we're talking about, and that's what I think the
Speaker 6: danger is to society taking a gun live streaming it,
Speaker 6: you know, without getting into gun issues in terms of
Speaker 6: the propriety of owning guns and the use of guns.
Speaker 6: I think everyone agrees that gun safety is critically important
Speaker 6: and that guns aren't toys. So it's something that I'm
Speaker 6: thinking a lot about because again I'm not going to
Speaker 6: get into the specifics of the investigation, but in fact,
Speaker 6: if you are live streaming something that to the world
Speaker 6: looks exactly like a gun and in a frankly reckless manner,
Speaker 6: should it matter whether or not it's a real gun.
Speaker 1: So that's the commissioner for from last hour. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: all pending here. By the way, this program brought to
Speaker 1: you by the great folks Mercedes Benz. They say good
Speaker 1: things come to those who wait. Mercedespins SUV family proves otherwise,
Speaker 1: takes no time at all. Set up a test drive
Speaker 1: your local Mercedes Benz dealer. Learn more at n busa
Speaker 1: dot com. Jesse in La, Hey Jess, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today?
Speaker 7: Hey gee, thank you for taking my call. Of course,
Speaker 7: So I wanted to touch on the great merger, and
Speaker 7: I think it's sports Washington. I think when the details
Speaker 7: come out, this is just speculation. But I think what's
Speaker 7: going to reveal is that TIF not not only is
Speaker 7: not They're not an owner of people or or a team,
Speaker 7: it's an owner of a league. And that interview with
Speaker 7: Adam Silver, I thought you did a great job pressing
Speaker 7: him because it sounds like he's prepping for them coming
Speaker 7: to the NBA. He was talking very nice, like very nice,
Speaker 7: a great interview. And I do have a conspiracy for you, Dad, Okay,
Speaker 7: the conspiracy. The conspiracy. I don't think it's a coincidence
Speaker 7: that a day after the PGA announcement was made that Messi,
Speaker 7: who has decided between Saudi Arabia and Barcelona and Inner Miami,
Speaker 7: chooses Inner Miami. And part of the deal is that
Speaker 7: he now owns a part of Apple, and Apple is
Speaker 7: the highest valued American company, like our most formidable competition
Speaker 7: America has to pis so conspiracy theory, but you know,
Speaker 7: I don't think it's a surprise.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you, Jesse. Let's bring in Roger Bennett,
Speaker 1: founder of Men and Blazers, joining us now to the celebration. Here.
Speaker 1: Messi is coming to the United States. You said it
Speaker 1: would never happen, Roger, and it.
Speaker 9: Has Donny pay it was a try to listen to
Speaker 9: the commission of the NBA, who looks like my eldest son.
Speaker 9: He's so gorgeous. To follow him is an absolute delight.
Speaker 9: And to be here with you on a day which
Speaker 9: is for all who love the growth of football in
Speaker 9: this nation, this beautiful nation. It is incredible, Linel Messi.
Speaker 9: It's a bit like if Lebron decided so the Lakers,
Speaker 9: I'm going to go to China. I'm going to play
Speaker 9: for the Shanghai Sharks. I'm going to do commercial deals
Speaker 9: all over that great nation. That's what Messi's doing by
Speaker 9: coming here. Conspiracy theorist, I'm sorry, he doesn't own Apple.
Speaker 9: He may play in a provisor. That may be, he
Speaker 9: may play foot. We'll still score a couple of hat tricks,
Speaker 9: but he's coming. It's a very creative deal to make
Speaker 9: him come. And I think from Miami it's probably the
Speaker 9: greatest day in that city's history since Don Johnson discovered teal.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I like that. Okay, how does this effect?
Speaker 1: What is this effect? Who's this effect?
Speaker 9: Well, America clearly from your last call and now has
Speaker 9: conspiracy theories about football, which is progress. All right, I
Speaker 9: mean it's immense. Just to be clear, America's had Pele.
Speaker 9: You probably remember him that Dan, Yeah, Beckham came here.
Speaker 9: That is this times one thousand. I mean, this is
Speaker 9: a gentleman who, yes he's thirty five, but he's the
Speaker 9: greatest player of his generation. He's just come off what
Speaker 9: was a bit like in Greek epic times that be
Speaker 9: poems written about him, the Argentinian World Cup win in December.
Speaker 9: He delivered glory to that nation. I think they've just
Speaker 9: finished the bender of celebration that started in the wake
Speaker 9: of that.
Speaker 1: And this is.
Speaker 9: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: I mean, we're living in a different world. We're living
Speaker 9: in a wired world, We're living in a interconnected world.
Speaker 9: Little MESSI may only be five ft seven, but He
Speaker 9: is a human billboard that is visible from space. We
Speaker 9: always said the Great Wall of China is visible from space.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 9: But Lionel Messi, what he does, how he plays, where
Speaker 9: he gets his carne asada, where he walks his giant dog,
Speaker 9: Send your Hulk. All of these make global news the
Speaker 9: second it occurs, and it resounds across the world. And
Speaker 9: for that to happen in MLS, you know, a league
Speaker 9: that to be candid, needed an identity. You know, the
Speaker 9: great players were not coming here. They were going to
Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia is offering oil refineries to any great player
Speaker 9: who wants to go there. Linna Messi's wife did not
Speaker 9: want did not fancy bringing up the three kids. Figure yes,
Speaker 9: so she's like, nah, how about Miami.
Speaker 1: We got an apartment there. And credit MLS.
Speaker 9: You know, the young American players, they're all leaving America.
Speaker 9: They want to play in the best teams. You know,
Speaker 9: your policit Cheers, your Geo Rainers, your Tyler Adams. They
Speaker 9: want to play for the best teams they can in Europe.
Speaker 9: So MLS needed an identity and credit them. They went
Speaker 9: out and got the biggest face in the global game.
Speaker 9: And who will be playing. Ticket sales have gone up
Speaker 9: like you know, you watch on stub Hub how quickly
Speaker 9: they shot up to from face value ex. A thousand
Speaker 9: into Miami's Instagram which was a million this time yesterday.
Speaker 9: I think it's just top five million. Stadia will be packed.
Speaker 9: This is going to be the Beatles reforming playing across
Speaker 9: our nation and kids in all serious dan kids will
Speaker 9: be able to pay witness to the greatest footballer who
Speaker 9: have ever seen. I'm not a religious man, but I've
Speaker 9: watched him player. I've watched him playing Barcelona, watched him
Speaker 9: play in Paris, and it is spiritual watching this tiny
Speaker 9: human being who is It's like the Dali Lama in Cleets.
Speaker 1: Where does he rank? Greatest players of all time?
Speaker 9: Christian Poliitic number one and probably.
Speaker 6: Second?
Speaker 1: Okay, all he is?
Speaker 9: I mean here, this gentleman is diminutive. He looks like
Speaker 9: he's just wandered out of your local super cuts. But
Speaker 9: there's a there's a great poet in Uruguay, Eduaro Galiano,
Speaker 9: who sadly died recently. But I interviewed him once and
Speaker 9: he said, you know, Maredonna played as if the ball
Speaker 9: was stuck to his shoe to his boot, to his cleat.
Speaker 9: He said, Lionel Messi plays as if that ball is
Speaker 9: actually inside his sock. And it is incredible what he does.
Speaker 9: But it's not just what he does on the field,
Speaker 9: it's what he does off it. And Lionel Messi going
Speaker 9: courtside at the heat, Lionel Messi, you know, going down
Speaker 9: to high fi. Patrick Mahomes before a Chiefs Dolphins game,
Speaker 9: Jack Harlow jetting in for every single.
Speaker 1: Game in the face.
Speaker 9: That's the circus times a million that we're about to see.
Speaker 9: And when you project that forward commercially with a World
Speaker 9: Cup coming here in twenty twenty six, Mexico, Canada, the
Speaker 9: United States, those two forces together, Dan, all of your
Speaker 9: fans who are probably tweeting him, be like, no, socker.
Speaker 1: Dan, what is this?
Speaker 9: Remember Jack Kemp didn't die so that this.
Speaker 1: Football could be considered football.
Speaker 10: They're going to be genuinely very disscaying, is this a
Speaker 10: greater moment for the United States or a a bigger
Speaker 10: disappointment for Europe or soccer outside the United States that
Speaker 10: Messi has come come here?
Speaker 9: God, that's an incredible question. Look, the Saudi thing is
Speaker 9: is slightly insane. The live golf that you've no doubt
Speaker 9: talked about.
Speaker 1: Game in Saudi Arabia with gathering all these soccer players.
Speaker 9: To own the Dan Patrick Show, to be all of
Speaker 9: our bosses.
Speaker 1: Dan, We're all gonna work.
Speaker 9: Why are they doing it? Not to get all geopolitical
Speaker 9: on your ass for a second, but Saudi Arabia, you
Speaker 9: know the golf, it's a We did a whole podcast
Speaker 9: series about it with crooked media called World Corrupt. Why
Speaker 9: would Qatar, this tiny country, won the World Cup? Why
Speaker 9: would we forgive them the World Cup? Those are the
Speaker 9: two questions we looked at. And the reality is geopolitically,
Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia is in a complex place. It has infinite
Speaker 9: money as a petro state, but it also has a
Speaker 9: deeply complicated reality. Deeply complicated is doing all of work there, Dan,
Speaker 9: They murdered Kashogi, the bombing of Yemen, the human rights
Speaker 9: record that's rationally, deeply challenging to a lot of people. However,
Speaker 9: sports is not rational. Sports is emotional. When we watch sports,
Speaker 9: the guitar thing and they'll run up to Katar, everyone
Speaker 9: was like, oh my god, we must protest and then
Speaker 9: MESSI run to five players like oh my God, did
Speaker 9: you see that guitar is amazing? And so by linking
Speaker 9: formula one, by owning golf, by owning football teams. You know,
Speaker 9: Saudi Arabia and Newcastle, katar In Paris and Jaman. Manchester
Speaker 9: City are playing the Champions League final on Saturday. They're
Speaker 9: owned by Abu Dabby. You can and if you speak
Speaker 9: to the Manchester City human beings, it's quite interesting. They
Speaker 9: bought Manchester City on the same day as they spent
Speaker 9: like I can't remember the number, something like a hundred
Speaker 9: times what they spent on Manchester City. They spent on
Speaker 9: a a tech plant in California's about to make chips.
Speaker 9: And what they couldn't believe was the chip plant was
Speaker 9: a local news story and a tech story. Minor, minor.
Speaker 9: Oh this this tech plant sold. The Manchester City story
Speaker 9: was heard all around the world. And when you buy
Speaker 9: global football, you are buying the greatest platform to communicate,
Speaker 9: to rebrand. Oh we're not Saudi Arabia of the Kashakhi
Speaker 9: bone saws. Do you see our Newcastle? Did you see
Speaker 9: we've got messy walking. Here's Saudi Arabia's tourist ambassador Ronaldo
Speaker 9: plays here and that's ultimately they want the World Cup.
Speaker 9: The short answer is they want the twenty thirty World
Speaker 9: Cup to be in Saudi Arabia. And the way things
Speaker 9: are going, what does football like more than anything? Not rationality,
Speaker 9: not geopolitics, oh money, they.
Speaker 1: Probably would do When do we get Ronaldo?
Speaker 9: Where who's we the Dan Patrick showls?
Speaker 1: Does MLS get Ronaldo?
Speaker 9: Damn Paige?
Speaker 1: Do you want Ronaldo?
Speaker 9: Do you want credim showing it's like a bottle of
Speaker 9: Dreka on the war come alive in human form?
Speaker 1: Is that what we have? You smelled? Have you smelled Ronaldo?
Speaker 1: Before I have? I'll tell this.
Speaker 9: In two thy twelve, I was in Donech in Ukraine
Speaker 9: and in tonight the Euros, the football tournament, and my
Speaker 9: hotel room I couldn't you know once you hate when
Speaker 9: you arrive in a city, when you get to the
Speaker 9: hotel and they're like, sorry, your room's not ready. I
Speaker 9: was like, so I did the thing?
Speaker 6: You did?
Speaker 1: What my room?
Speaker 9: And they're like, sir, the check in is three o'clock.
Speaker 9: It's twelve thirty. And finally I made enough of a
Speaker 9: first that they put me in a room and it
Speaker 9: was quite a nice room and What happened was Portugal
Speaker 9: had played Spain the night before, had actually been at
Speaker 9: the game, and they'd lost, and so Portugal flew home
Speaker 9: and I walked into that room. I opened the door
Speaker 9: and my lord, it.
Speaker 1: Smelled of DrAk on the wall.
Speaker 9: It took me months to get rid of the stench
Speaker 9: of drack on the war. And I said to the
Speaker 9: hotel manager who showed me in with the key, I said,
Speaker 9: and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, just tuition, maybe yeah? Uh? Is David Beckham
Speaker 1: officially an American?
Speaker 9: David Beckham is an incredible human being, but is the American?
Speaker 9: Let's claim him? What is an American?
Speaker 1: And I'm saying, let's just make him, you know, an
Speaker 1: official American heat He's saved mls now twice LA.
Speaker 9: Which is amazing. I said, there are layers to this story.
Speaker 9: I spoke to the Great Ray Hudson yesterday. If you
Speaker 9: don't know who he is, fans of this show, you've
Speaker 9: probably heard his clips. He's like the one, the crazy commentator,
Speaker 9: poet philosopher who when MESSI scores used to commentate and
Speaker 9: say things like he's out of his working mind, He's
Speaker 9: got a food mixer down his pants, and it's sex
Speaker 9: beat stuff like that. So I interviewed him because Ray
Speaker 9: Hudson played in the NASL. He lives in Fort Lauderdale.
Speaker 9: I call him like Lionel Messi's dad, like that, he
Speaker 9: adores his human I wanted to get his reaction, and
Speaker 9: he said, Lionel Messi is about to play on the
Speaker 9: field that Pelle played on in Fort Lauderdale, that Johann
Speaker 9: Chriusch played on that Beckham There's a lot of history
Speaker 9: to this. There's a lot of layers, and one of
Speaker 9: the beautiful stories I think is that David Beckham did
Speaker 9: come over here at a time when MLS was really struggling.
Speaker 9: You know, the thirteen teams, I think there's now twenty nine,
Speaker 9: and it was his arrival that transformed MLS legitimized. It
Speaker 9: made many other players think, you know, Beckham can go there.
Speaker 9: I will too, commercially gave the league heft and the
Speaker 9: fact that he owns into Miami and was a part
Speaker 9: of the team who negotiated this deeply complex and creation.
Speaker 1: This was just a simple question, right Drew, Should Yah
Speaker 1: make America?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was biblical. David Beckham the gat Lionel Messi America.
Speaker 9: They're both American now, right, Dan, isn't that how it works?
Speaker 1: It'd be He's a great addition. You're a great edition.
Speaker 1: David Faride, a great edition. David Beckham. Rebecca Lowe great addition.
Speaker 9: She is a great addition. She she's a great American
Speaker 9: and Dan ultimately twenty twenty twenty six World Cup. Let's
Speaker 9: play Beckham in the middle. Let's have Planel Messi, Blanel Messi,
Speaker 9: just you know, playing it.
Speaker 1: It's Lionel, not in America, not when he's American. Here
Speaker 1: a Lionel.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they'll change his name at Ellis Island. I'll like
Speaker 9: your Lionel now, So get in there, make something of yourself.
Speaker 9: It's the American way, Lionel. You came here with nothing,
Speaker 9: you're now Lionel. We see a future for you in
Speaker 9: this nation.
Speaker 1: Here he is. Roger Bennett, men in blazers. Great to
Speaker 1: talk to you.
Speaker 9: Great to be with you, your beautiful human being.
Speaker 1: Thanks. That's right, Roger Bennett. Always great to have Roger on.
Speaker 1: We appreciate his insight, his passion. Yeah, if you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna plod on that side of the glass, you
Speaker 1: got to turn your mihone.
Speaker 11: Roger that.
Speaker 1: We've had a show today.
Speaker 5: They changed his name with Ellis Islands.
Speaker 1: You're Lionel Messy gat make something of yourself. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: take a break here. Last call for phone calls, What
Speaker 1: we learned? I think we learned a lot today, and
Speaker 1: what's in store tomorrow? Right after this. Thanks for listening
Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch
Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern sixty
Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find
Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us
Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app. Hey, it's me Rock Parker.
Speaker 12: Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for
Speaker 12: twenty two minutes of piping hot baseball talk featuring the
Speaker 12: biggest names of newsmakers in the sport. Whether you believe
Speaker 12: in analytics or the eye test, We've got all the
Speaker 12: bases covered.
Speaker 13: New episodes dropped every Thursday, So do yourself a favor
Speaker 13: and listen to Inside the Partner with Rob Parker on
Speaker 13: the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 1: Last call for phone Calls, What we learn? What's in
Speaker 1: store tomorrow. The NFL recruited Tom Brady to deliver a
Speaker 1: message to players about gambling, and he did it via
Speaker 1: a video. He emphasized how playing in the NFL is
Speaker 1: a privilege of a lifetime, stressed that betting on NFL
Speaker 1: games not only undermines the integrity of the league, but
Speaker 1: also tarnishes the reputation of everybody associated with the team.
Speaker 1: And they said, risking it all for a bet is
Speaker 1: simply not worth It seems obvious. Do you need Tom
Speaker 1: Brady to remind you? And I wouldn't have used Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: I would have used Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley, it cost
Speaker 1: him eleven million dollars. Tom Brady hadn't been hurt by this.
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley ten hundred dollars and it costs him a
Speaker 1: season where he's going to get eleven million dollars. He
Speaker 1: came back with Jacksonville, and part of that his punishment
Speaker 1: should have been, how about you tell the younger players
Speaker 1: what you went through, what you did, and how it
Speaker 1: impacted you. That to me would mean a whole lot
Speaker 1: more than Tom Brady, who by all indications has never
Speaker 1: placed a bet. But he's going to be the one
Speaker 1: to tell you that you don't want to tarnish your
Speaker 1: reputation or ruin it all just for that, I get that.
Speaker 1: I don't need Tom to tell me. I need somebody
Speaker 1: who went through it.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'll tell you the most surprising thing about this
Speaker 3: whole thing is that Tom Brady, I looked it up,
Speaker 3: does not currently have a betting partner, sponsorship or deal.
Speaker 3: Do you think a guy like him would have had
Speaker 3: they were been clamoring for him?
Speaker 1: Well, he was in crypto though. Yes, Matt's gambling as well,
Speaker 1: Big b L. Yeah. And I think they're all getting sued,
Speaker 1: aren't they. I think Tom Brady and Shaq Steph Curry.
Speaker 1: I remember when we were approached on the show about
Speaker 1: doing crypto and I said no, and they're like, it's
Speaker 1: good money, and I go, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: believe in it. Why would I tell my audience to Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm gonna have you buy into crypto. I'm
Speaker 1: not like, no, I'm not going to do that. A
Speaker 1: company called pyramid scheme.
Speaker 2: I look at the Ponzi dot com.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if a celebrity is telling you to buy it,
Speaker 3: it's too late, that's that could be a mantra.
Speaker 1: Let's see, uh, Jake and Washington. Hi, Jake what's on
Speaker 1: your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hey, DP, maybe I wanted to cast my vote for
Speaker 11: Adam Silver is one thousand percent better human than Roger Goodell.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, Jake, Well it was it was commissioner,
Speaker 5: not human.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not human. We only stayed with the it's still
Speaker 1: a controversial title. Yes, Okay, what else?
Speaker 8: Jake? All right? Uh?
Speaker 11: Listening to you earlier talking about the players you've seen
Speaker 11: over over your your lifespan and what you've witnessed, and
Speaker 11: I was thinking a lot about their contracts and what
Speaker 11: we played now, say players now, and knowing at one
Speaker 11: point in time these guys were making part time It
Speaker 11: was a part time job and it became a full
Speaker 11: time job. Yeah, like a guy like Delton Baylor, what
Speaker 11: was what do you think he was making? How did
Speaker 11: he rank in you know, middle class, upper class versus
Speaker 11: you know what guys are now. And do you think
Speaker 11: that one major sport led the way for salaries and
Speaker 11: the increases that we see now that payers being played, Well.
Speaker 1: It feels like baseball once we had the million dollar
Speaker 1: and then it was three million dollars. I think Nolan
Speaker 1: Ryan and Ricky Henderson were in there making that kind
Speaker 1: of money. I don't know the first contract where I went, God,
Speaker 1: I can't believe they're paying him that much. Baseball it's
Speaker 1: all guaranteed. Basketball is guaranteed. Football is not. So Football's
Speaker 1: numbers are always hollow. You're like, okay, they're making that,
Speaker 1: but are they really making that? Do you remember the
Speaker 1: biggest contract where you went, oh my god, yeah, pull,
Speaker 1: I looked at.
Speaker 3: That's just what this guy is saying. Elgin Baylor is
Speaker 3: a rookie with the Lakers in nineteen fifty six. He
Speaker 3: made twenty five thousand dollars a year, which was a
Speaker 3: lot of money at the time. The average American made
Speaker 3: three thousand, six hundred for a year, so he was
Speaker 3: making eight times what the average American made. You know, Okay,
Speaker 3: well that would be if a average American, let's say
Speaker 3: the average American made fifty thousand, now eight times five
Speaker 3: four and are thousand downs, that would be the league minimum,
Speaker 3: less than a league minimum all three leagues.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just had certain players who came before their
Speaker 1: time that they would have benefited. You know, when we
Speaker 1: got to the bird and Magic like that's the TV era,
Speaker 1: that's when the National Title Game. I think that's the
Speaker 1: most watched national title game of all time. But that
Speaker 1: was the TV era, and I remember watching Nixon Lakers
Speaker 1: on tape delay NBA finals. College basketball was bigger at
Speaker 1: the time. The NIT was bigger than the NCAA. Then
Speaker 1: it just felt like basketball, bird and magic what they did.
Speaker 1: And then Jordan came in, and you you had a
Speaker 1: commissioner who obviously saw the future of investing in individual players,
Speaker 1: not necessarily teams. Now it's football where we're looking at this,
Speaker 1: you know, five hundred I think baseball because it's guaranteed
Speaker 1: somebody is going to pay Shoho Tani six hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: That's what that's what owners were paying less than that
Speaker 1: paying for, you know, franchises, And it'll be worth it
Speaker 1: to pay him that kind of money with what he'll
Speaker 1: do globally. Richard and Georgia. Hi, Richard, what's on your
Speaker 1: mind today?
Speaker 8: He first time callers Camp five. Nice to take them
Speaker 8: my call first of all. So last night I'm watching Scarface.
Speaker 8: After the game, I came up with a way for
Speaker 8: John Moran to show some real remorse.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 8: So he holds a press conference with Adam Silver. He
Speaker 8: pulls his gun out as he hands it over to
Speaker 8: the commissioner. He says, say goodbye to my little friend.
Speaker 1: Right, thank you, Richard. He's unlikely, Yeah, probably get I
Speaker 1: guess the commissioner probably wouldn't be thrilled with that.
Speaker 2: Where can I have imitation?
Speaker 1: You know, Setan's been working on his joker impersonation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just debuted that a few minutes.
Speaker 1: You did, yeah, out on the basketball court. Yeah, it was, Uh,
Speaker 1: what do you think Okay does? Does the joker? Where
Speaker 1: is he among floppers in the NBA minimum top three
Speaker 1: minimum minimum? Okay, Who's who is number one?
Speaker 5: Well, it depends on who you ask.
Speaker 1: I'm asking you.
Speaker 5: I would say him, but I was trying to be diplomatic.
Speaker 5: What about Lebron?
Speaker 1: Mmm?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's up there, he draws fouls.
Speaker 1: But but these guys, they're always this incredulous look like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like you're not calling that, and it feels
Speaker 1: like that they The higher up you get, the more
Speaker 1: you're able to do that, the officials will give you
Speaker 1: that leeway of like, oh my god.
Speaker 5: Like if you're a rookie and you're coming in you're
Speaker 5: going like that. They're like, you're a rookie, you'll get
Speaker 5: just built like a like a bear. He's like a bull,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. And somehow Jimmy Butler, you know,
Speaker 5: coming close to him.
Speaker 1: Makes is he is he too big to flop? Is that?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 5: Way too big? Lebron all right, but Lebron is like
Speaker 5: you can't mention his name and be like, hey, I.
Speaker 1: Saw Lebron in the restaurant walking through the door. Somehow
Speaker 1: he's like the poster.
Speaker 5: Child of it when here's this gigantic dude that everybody respects, Like, dude,
Speaker 5: you're too big to be that soft one man just
Speaker 5: standing there?
Speaker 1: Why are we yelling at each other today? And at
Speaker 1: the end of the show, Yeah, I'm gonna take this
Speaker 1: home with me. It's just gonna bother me on the
Speaker 1: right hot now you ruin we can do.
Speaker 5: It's a good impression, though, I feel like it's pretty
Speaker 5: spot on.
Speaker 1: How about this day in sports history?
Speaker 3: Pauli wh nineteen thirty four of the Reds became the
Speaker 3: first major league team to fly from one town to another.
Speaker 3: They flew from Cincinnati Chicago to play a game. Nineteen
Speaker 3: sixty nine, the Yankees retired Mickey Mantle's number seven, and
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty nine, also the NFL announced that the
Speaker 3: both the AFL and NFL would have a combined schedule,
Speaker 3: the first time in their history.
Speaker 1: It was on this date. In nineteen seventy nine, two
Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame quarterbacks were drafted in the by
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball teams. Two quarterbacks nineteen seventy nine drafted
Speaker 1: Marv John Elway, Yeah Blue Blue, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino
Speaker 1: ooh yeah. Marino was drafted by the Royals fourth round.
Speaker 1: John Elway's second round by the Yankees. This is the
Speaker 1: story I did not know. On this date. In nineteen twenty,
Speaker 1: ed Rausch fell asleep in center field during an argument
Speaker 1: on the field, and he when he didn't wake up,
Speaker 1: the umpire ejected him for delay of game. What I'm
Speaker 1: guilty of that? Sometimes when Todd talks Todd, what did
Speaker 1: you learn today?
Speaker 4: The jokers not seeking the spotlight effect after games.
Speaker 2: He just wants to FaceTime his horses and.
Speaker 4: Go to bed.
Speaker 1: Discover credit cards do something pretty awesome. At the end
Speaker 1: of the first year. They automatically double all the cash
Speaker 1: back you've earned. Cash back from trips and restaurants all doubled.
Speaker 1: See terms and check it out for yourself. Discover dot
Speaker 1: Com slash match. Hopefully we made you smile, made you think,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make you come back tomorrow for a
Speaker 1: meet Friday. Talk to you then,