WEBVTT - The Bees are Back in Town

0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. It's nine nine in the Vanilla Dome and

0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:23.079
<v Speaker 1>you're listening to Night Call. Hello, and welcome to Night Call,

0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the podcast for your weird days and weird nights. I'm

0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Molly Lambert. Then sitting next to me in Los Angeles

0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:37.479
<v Speaker 1>is Emily has gone on a mission to Mars to

0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:42.840
<v Speaker 1>excavate craters and look for alien life. She'll be back soon,

0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.839
<v Speaker 1>but good luck, Emily on your mission. Stay safe in space.

0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:49.880
<v Speaker 1>We are here as always to take your night calls

0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:53.760
<v Speaker 1>and your night emails and your night questions. Give us

0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a call at to four oh four six night or

0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:01.560
<v Speaker 1>check out our email at Night Call podcast at gmail

0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.280
<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hi guys, we're in a silly mood today.

0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:06.840
<v Speaker 1>We are in a super silly mood. It's just me

0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:10.280
<v Speaker 1>and tests in the Weird Garage looking at each other

0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:13.840
<v Speaker 1>in the face super close. Speaking of intense close ups,

0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.560
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about my new favorite Instagram accounts,

0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:20.039
<v Speaker 1>celeb Face. We're also going to talk about Felicity, the

0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.440
<v Speaker 1>TV show Felicity the shadow Man, and we're gonna solve

0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the mystery of the ice cream truck Ghost. But first

0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to tell everybody about little podcast. I guess

0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it on called The Shining to thirty seven that is

0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:38.480
<v Speaker 1>really awesome. It is My Friends Susan's podcast. Each episode

0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.480
<v Speaker 1>is about the Shining in two minutes and thirty seven

0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.160
<v Speaker 1>second segments of the Shining or analyzed. Well. The reason

0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.360
<v Speaker 1>being for people aren't familiar with the Shining fandom is

0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that Room to seven was the bad room. Yeah, it's

0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the scary room, the scary room. Um. But also it's

0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:57.919
<v Speaker 1>part of a trend of in podcasting that I didn't

0:01:57.920 --> 0:01:59.680
<v Speaker 1>know about, which is that there are a lot of

0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.480
<v Speaker 1>pod has that do movies where each episode takes a

0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.080
<v Speaker 1>minute of a movie at a time. So this is

0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:08.120
<v Speaker 1>also a riff on that where it's it's just the Shining,

0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but it uses the Shining as a jumping off point

0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:12.960
<v Speaker 1>to talk about kind of all sorts of things and

0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:16.079
<v Speaker 1>so on. The episode that I did, which you can

0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:21.040
<v Speaker 1>find at the Shining two three seven dot com, that's

0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the Shining, the number two, the number three, the number

0:02:23.480 --> 0:02:26.800
<v Speaker 1>seven dot com, we did an episode that was a

0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.360
<v Speaker 1>lot about Shelley Duval because that was what was in

0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the clip that I watched was a scene between uh

0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Shelley Duval and Jack Nicholson where they are having an argument.

0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.280
<v Speaker 1>This is one of the ones that just also just

0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.960
<v Speaker 1>feels like listening to like someone's parents argue, where it's

0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.239
<v Speaker 1>just very stressful. And then they cut to Danny and

0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Danny's like, you know, bleeding out the face and like

0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:54.720
<v Speaker 1>chicken and thinking about the blood Elevator, and they're playing

0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:58.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of good Wendy Carlos music and it's very intense. Um.

0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.480
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, we also talked about Shelly Duval a lot

0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:05.359
<v Speaker 1>and how much we love Shelly Duval and just all

0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:10.040
<v Speaker 1>of her great work in Allman movies and on Fairytale Theater,

0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:15.239
<v Speaker 1>which was a weird anthology show that she produced. Um,

0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.720
<v Speaker 1>that was a children's TV show that totally I watched

0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:20.960
<v Speaker 1>them and it went took me to the weirdest part

0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of my brain when it was eighties and it was

0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:26.960
<v Speaker 1>like everybody cool. It was in these Oh you gotta

0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.960
<v Speaker 1>watch it. It's like these weird Fairytale adaptations. The first

0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:33.240
<v Speaker 1>one is The Frog Prince and it stars like Terry

0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:39.120
<v Speaker 1>gar Robin Williams, Van Dyke Parks. That's awesome. Yeah, they

0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.680
<v Speaker 1>all seem really fun to have made, but they're also

0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.200
<v Speaker 1>super weird. And but they were actually the first original

0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.920
<v Speaker 1>show that was ever on HBO or one of them.

0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.280
<v Speaker 1>They were one of the first original cable shows. Yes,

0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I was saying, like Shelly Duval, perhaps an underrated pioneer.

0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Definitely an underrated pioneer. Yeah, and that wasn't the Christopher

0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.600
<v Speaker 1>walkin Puss in Boots, was it? Or I believe that

0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:03.880
<v Speaker 1>is part of it. Oh, then I've seen that like

0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.720
<v Speaker 1>four times because that is a master field, Like that's

0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:10.040
<v Speaker 1>it holds up. It's better now than it ever was.

0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:12.040
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was saying. I was saying, they're weird,

0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:14.720
<v Speaker 1>and they don't like condescend to children. They're just like this,

0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.360
<v Speaker 1>they really make an impression on you as a kid.

0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.120
<v Speaker 1>And then I was watching them again and I was like,

0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.159
<v Speaker 1>still weird, still got it, Still got that weird, the

0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.000
<v Speaker 1>shining energy of just taking you to like the innermost

0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.040
<v Speaker 1>corners of your mind where you're like, oh, it's some

0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:36.320
<v Speaker 1>spider webs in these corners because they are weird. Hey,

0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and I call listeners. Have you ever tried a kind bar?

0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.440
<v Speaker 1>You might have seen them in your local grocery store,

0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:44.880
<v Speaker 1>coffee shop or jim. They make delicious, healthy snacks using

0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:48.000
<v Speaker 1>whole ingredients. Well, if you're ready to try some tasty

0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and healthy snacks, We have got a special deal for you.

0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Try twenty kind snacks from seven of their unique product

0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:57.039
<v Speaker 1>lines with their new snack pack. Enjoy fifty percent off

0:04:57.080 --> 0:04:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and free shipping on your first snack pack when you

0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.320
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to it through snack Club, Kind's monthly snack subscription service.

0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Go to Kind snacks dot com forward slash call for

0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.560
<v Speaker 1>more details. The snack pack has the perfect mix of

0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Kind favorites for all your daily snacking needs. Like to

0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.480
<v Speaker 1>start your day with whole grains, try the oats and

0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.920
<v Speaker 1>honey with toasted coconut granola clusters. Need to snack healthy

0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.480
<v Speaker 1>while on the go, enjoy a Kind dark chocolate nuts

0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.840
<v Speaker 1>and sea salt bar that's my favorite. Looking for a

0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:25.479
<v Speaker 1>plant based protein, take a bite of the crunchy peanut

0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.799
<v Speaker 1>butter protein bar. Plus. All of Kind's snacks are crafted

0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.200
<v Speaker 1>with delicious, wholesome ingredients like nuts, fruits, and whole grains

0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:35.000
<v Speaker 1>to keep your body and your taste buds happy. Visit

0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.080
<v Speaker 1>kind snacks dot com slash call to learn more and

0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.120
<v Speaker 1>subscribe to the snack pack. That's kind snacks dot com

0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.000
<v Speaker 1>slash c A L L. And we thank them for

0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:56.240
<v Speaker 1>sponsoring today's episode. Speaking of spiders. Oh yeah, so a

0:05:56.240 --> 0:06:00.480
<v Speaker 1>long long time ago, Um, we were discussing the bees.

0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.800
<v Speaker 1>We were first coming up with ideas for what to

0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about on this podcast, and we were brainstorming. For

0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:14.640
<v Speaker 1>some reason, Tess was like, I've got an idea for

0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.359
<v Speaker 1>a segment. It's called the Bees are back in Town.

0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:22.800
<v Speaker 1>So this was almost an entire year agast a year

0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:27.040
<v Speaker 1>ago we started getting getting the gang back together. So

0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're not familiar with where the bees were before

0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.000
<v Speaker 1>they came back to town, let me just tell you

0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.719
<v Speaker 1>that for a while, the bees were suffering from a

0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.640
<v Speaker 1>mysterious disease and the honey bees were disappearing, and I

0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:44.400
<v Speaker 1>guess it was called colony collapse. And I love bees.

0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a bug friend, a friend of all bugs,

0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.479
<v Speaker 1>and this is gonna this is a reoccurring segment. I

0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.880
<v Speaker 1>know we've talked about bugs before, we will and we

0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:55.040
<v Speaker 1>will get forever. Um. So this is Insect Corner, a k.

0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:59.120
<v Speaker 1>The bug Bag, bug Bag. But I got very interested

0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.240
<v Speaker 1>in what was happening to the bees because there was

0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.200
<v Speaker 1>a colony. I guess they just follow the queen. If

0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.239
<v Speaker 1>the queen gets like confused, and goes to a bad plate,

0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like a bad neighborhood or whatever. Everyone's just following her anyway.

0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.400
<v Speaker 1>So there were a bunch of bees that followed a

0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:19.600
<v Speaker 1>queen to the pavement outside of my kids preschool, and

0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they were just like on the ground, like a swarm

0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:27.000
<v Speaker 1>of bees. And everybody was pretty divided as to what

0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the approach should be to deal with the bees. But eventually, um,

0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:36.160
<v Speaker 1>a bee saving company was called and they relocated. It

0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.440
<v Speaker 1>was a pretty crazy scene, like it was a ton

0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:42.240
<v Speaker 1>of bees. But then I was googling the bees, and

0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.240
<v Speaker 1>bees are obviously very important. And if you've seen B movie,

0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you might also understand you seen the movie like fifty times.

0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:55.280
<v Speaker 1>What have you never seen B movie? But I've made

0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of jokes about it. Okay, so be movie.

0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.640
<v Speaker 1>You know a lot of times when people get really

0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.840
<v Speaker 1>into being fans of a movie that's like, on its face,

0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:08.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe you might call it a bad movie. I think

0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.600
<v Speaker 1>that the obsession with it is a little overrated. Not

0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the case with the movie, not the case at all.

0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:18.960
<v Speaker 1>There's just so many weird, weird choices and decisions that

0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.679
<v Speaker 1>were made in the making of that movie. There's the

0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.200
<v Speaker 1>quote at the beginning about how bees are like too

0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.280
<v Speaker 1>fat to fly and it's like goes against nature that

0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I some people can quote this quote, but I cannot.

0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.920
<v Speaker 1>If there's a movie your kids like or do you

0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.680
<v Speaker 1>like the movie this? So I came. I came to

0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:39.080
<v Speaker 1>find out about this movie after everybody else, as is

0:08:39.160 --> 0:08:42.960
<v Speaker 1>my my custom, and uh, my kids tend to watch

0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:46.040
<v Speaker 1>things into the ground. So I was. I got up Netflix,

0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.199
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, we're watching something you've never seen

0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.040
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna love it. And I was like, what's this.

0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.240
<v Speaker 1>This looks like a fun movie, and I turned it on.

0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And usually I just kind of like, you know, sit

0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.160
<v Speaker 1>in the background and not watch the movie, but this

0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.440
<v Speaker 1>movie is impossible to do that with because it's just

0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:04.960
<v Speaker 1>like right off the bat, a very strange movie. Also,

0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Rene Zellwegger, for some reason, is like doing something. She's

0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.880
<v Speaker 1>disguises her voice. She plays a human. She falls in

0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:15.040
<v Speaker 1>love with a b she falls in love with a be.

0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Molly, where do I begin? Where do

0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you vegin? Where do I begin? How about the ray

0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Leota branded honey that prompts the hero of the movie

0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.960
<v Speaker 1>to have a lawsuit against humans for like stealing the

0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.520
<v Speaker 1>profits of honey, it's about and you love it because

0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it's about capitalism. Did somebody write this on drugs? And

0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.680
<v Speaker 1>like Jerry Seinfeld wrighted on drugs in a weekend because

0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:42.600
<v Speaker 1>he wrote B movie? Wait he did, Yes, Molly, I

0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of always thought it was like the B version

0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.560
<v Speaker 1>of Ants with a Z. No, it is very different

0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:50.400
<v Speaker 1>than Ants with his Is it in the Abugs life universe? No?

0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.120
<v Speaker 1>The thing is I believe I don't even know if

0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it came afterse No, it's not. It's it is its

0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:02.240
<v Speaker 1>own self contained. The movie with Where the B Barry

0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Benson Renee Zellweger spoilers. Renee Zellweger saves Barry Benson from

0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.360
<v Speaker 1>being killed by her boyfriend, who's like a really dochy guy.

0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Barry Benson is not supposed to talk to humans, but

0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.640
<v Speaker 1>feels as though he needs to repay her act of

0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:22.920
<v Speaker 1>kindness by like introducing himself to her and then making

0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:26.360
<v Speaker 1>small talk while he's like sitting on her countertop and

0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:30.200
<v Speaker 1>she's really freaked out. How does this resolve? I can't.

0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it, and now I have to make

0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:34.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone watch B move. But it's like Beauty and the B.

0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, can their love ever be Well, the other

0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:38.880
<v Speaker 1>thing that's interesting is at one point in the movie,

0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's Barry Benson has just graduated from school and

0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.240
<v Speaker 1>at some point during the discussion, because they basically go

0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.679
<v Speaker 1>in the hive and they're assigned their job roles, and

0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.080
<v Speaker 1>he's like, I don't want to be working this job

0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.160
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of my life, like turning out the honey.

0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:55.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to And there's like a you know,

0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a little like homage to the graduate where he's like

0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.800
<v Speaker 1>floating in the pool of honey and his parents are

0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:01.360
<v Speaker 1>taught being like, what are you going to do with

0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life, Barry? And then he has

0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:08.640
<v Speaker 1>like a fantasy that involves like an exploding plane. Anyway,

0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.520
<v Speaker 1>but they mentioned the fact that bees only live for

0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:15.680
<v Speaker 1>like not long, and so it's so confusing because he's

0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:19.520
<v Speaker 1>having this relationship with Renee Zellwagger and clearly he's just

0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna die, like on their third date or something. But

0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the courtroom scenes, it's a really it's a

0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.000
<v Speaker 1>really strange movie, and it's so strange that it's good

0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:35.600
<v Speaker 1>just because it's strange. Al Right, Tess Lynch endorsing b movie. Yes,

0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:38.280
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, back to real bees. Bees were dying off.

0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Then they came back a full year ago. This was

0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.160
<v Speaker 1>all this all happened. You were like, the bees came back,

0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's like where were they? And you're like, they disappeared.

0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.959
<v Speaker 1>They were dying and wandering around confused. But now they're back,

0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.080
<v Speaker 1>which is amazing, which is kind of surprising because I

0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.400
<v Speaker 1>did not. When you hear something like colony collapse, you're

0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.320
<v Speaker 1>not like colony is going to come back real strong,

0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:02.880
<v Speaker 1>necess but it's very encouraging. And these are bouncing back.

0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:06.560
<v Speaker 1>These are bouncing back. The bees are back in town.

0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:12.800
<v Speaker 1>The bees are back. The bees are back in town.

0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:17.439
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite bug? Um? Well, right now?

0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Like bees? Bees? Bees? Um? Also, when you said the

0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.800
<v Speaker 1>B expert, my friend told me about a B expert

0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.240
<v Speaker 1>whose name is a B Man. He changed his name

0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:31.120
<v Speaker 1>so I would come up first under under be looking

0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.480
<v Speaker 1>for bees. It's a a B man and he's the

0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.640
<v Speaker 1>B expert. Um. I do like bees. I love bees.

0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I think they're really cool. I always would rescue them

0:12:41.440 --> 0:12:47.320
<v Speaker 1>from pools. My question, thank you. I also think spiders

0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.800
<v Speaker 1>are really cool. You know some big ones, but you're

0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.360
<v Speaker 1>more of the bug the bug lady. Um, what are

0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the best bugs. I do like a praying mantis for

0:12:56.040 --> 0:12:58.880
<v Speaker 1>obvious reasons, but also just they look the most like

0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.280
<v Speaker 1>aliens ants. I've been back and forth with those guys.

0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.400
<v Speaker 1>For sure. There was some hanging out out front. How

0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.400
<v Speaker 1>do you feel? You just respect it and I live

0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and let lift because basically, like I think I may

0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.760
<v Speaker 1>have actually already talked about this on the podcast, which

0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.280
<v Speaker 1>would be like really embarrassing. But after I learned that

0:13:15.320 --> 0:13:19.439
<v Speaker 1>ants colonized aphids and they farm them and then they

0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:22.560
<v Speaker 1>have this system where the aphids bring them nectar in

0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:25.680
<v Speaker 1>exchange for the ants basically like being their bodyguards and

0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.680
<v Speaker 1>location scouts, I was like, I just can't spray them anymore. Wow,

0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you did not say that before, because I would have

0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:34.600
<v Speaker 1>been impressed. That's really cool. So what happens is if

0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:36.840
<v Speaker 1>you ever see if you're in l a who have

0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a citrus tree to examine, um, you might notice what

0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.240
<v Speaker 1>looks like like fuzzy mold. It kind of looks like cotton,

0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.120
<v Speaker 1>and those are a fits. They're like wooly a fits,

0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and you'll see a lot of ants next to them.

0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.240
<v Speaker 1>And I assumed that that was the food chain thing,

0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.040
<v Speaker 1>but it's not. The ants aren't eating the aphids. The

0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:59.080
<v Speaker 1>aphids stuck out sap from the tree. Ants go up

0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:01.760
<v Speaker 1>and tap them with an antenna, which is a signal

0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.320
<v Speaker 1>like give me. I mean, they're like mafia don that's

0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:07.640
<v Speaker 1>so cool. And then the ants kind of protect them,

0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they like lead them to the best places, they protect

0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:15.000
<v Speaker 1>them from other predators. Interdependent species. It's interesting, right, It's

0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:18.800
<v Speaker 1>so interesting. I also this makes me want to recommend

0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:23.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a documentary on Netflix right now about Rachel Carson. Uh,

0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:27.400
<v Speaker 1>the nature writer and all around cool, cool lady. I

0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:30.840
<v Speaker 1>think it's American Masters Rachel Carson, and I found it

0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:35.360
<v Speaker 1>so inspiring. She's most famous for having written Silent Spring,

0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.720
<v Speaker 1>but she kind of started the like seventies environmentalism movement

0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.560
<v Speaker 1>because she was writing a lot about how everything is

0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.880
<v Speaker 1>interdependent and how this idea of like putting man at

0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the center of everything is just insane and also not

0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.720
<v Speaker 1>how anything works UM, and she tried to write about

0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:58.200
<v Speaker 1>DCT before anybody wanted to talk about it about UM,

0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.240
<v Speaker 1>just because you invent something doesn't mean you should use it,

0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.240
<v Speaker 1>which is something we think about a lot in terms

0:15:04.240 --> 0:15:08.760
<v Speaker 1>of tech stuff that not every idea that people have

0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that's profitable is good for the environment or human beings.

0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.960
<v Speaker 1>But we've really gotten ourselves into a bad predicament with

0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the mosquitoes. I have our fault. I'm saying it's our way,

0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.960
<v Speaker 1>and also like if they take over, that's what we

0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:28.080
<v Speaker 1>deserve a little bit. Well. Check out the Rachel Carson documentary.

0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I also just found it really inspiring because it's like

0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:35.120
<v Speaker 1>she did what she had to do. She knew that

0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the fish were important and she had to write a

0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.280
<v Speaker 1>book to teach everybody. And her book about fish became

0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.600
<v Speaker 1>like really popular because it was like post war and

0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:47.040
<v Speaker 1>everybody was like excited to read a relaxing book about fish.

0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:48.800
<v Speaker 1>And maybe it's during the war and that's why. Anyway,

0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.040
<v Speaker 1>check it out. It's a great documentary. That whole series

0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.760
<v Speaker 1>is good. The Walt Disney one is also amazing and

0:15:53.760 --> 0:16:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I recommend it highly. We're gonna answer one of night

0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.880
<v Speaker 1>calls great mysteries, the most burning question, the most burning

0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.320
<v Speaker 1>question that we've had, the ice cream truck ghost mystery

0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:14.640
<v Speaker 1>from our friend Kate. Kate called us with a night

0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:18.600
<v Speaker 1>call about how she was getting mysterious calls from a

0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:23.680
<v Speaker 1>ice cream truck that would say hello Hello, a scary

0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:28.200
<v Speaker 1>ice cream truck and she didn't know why, and we

0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.320
<v Speaker 1>heard about it a lot. A lot of people suggested

0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to reply all article episode that implied it was a scam.

0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.640
<v Speaker 1>We were waiting to see if we would ever find out,

0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.880
<v Speaker 1>and now we found out, Tess, would you like to

0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.040
<v Speaker 1>do the honors? I would love to. This comes from Kate.

0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.320
<v Speaker 1>Hey night, call per your request. I called back and

0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.320
<v Speaker 1>left another message explaining what happened. Here's a backup email

0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.160
<v Speaker 1>in case my call cuts out again. I'm in a

0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.400
<v Speaker 1>rural area. Sometimes services bad. We're relying on the email

0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.440
<v Speaker 1>because oh right, because she called back and it got

0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:00.320
<v Speaker 1>cut off. That's why we were like, oh, we're never

0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.520
<v Speaker 1>going to find out. But no, okay, go on, okay, okay,

0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.639
<v Speaker 1>back to Kay. The big reveal came as I was

0:17:06.720 --> 0:17:09.440
<v Speaker 1>leaving New Orleans a few weeks ago. Some friends came

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.679
<v Speaker 1>over to say goodbye, and when they said we have

0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:16.119
<v Speaker 1>something to confess, I realized immediately that they where the

0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:19.560
<v Speaker 1>ice cream truck ghost. They would call me number blocked

0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.040
<v Speaker 1>and hold the phone up to this YouTube video, which

0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.040
<v Speaker 1>she links. I had apparently mentioned to them in passing

0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.919
<v Speaker 1>several months ago that I used to live near an

0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.320
<v Speaker 1>ice cream truck deep depot in Brooklyn, in Bushwick, off

0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.040
<v Speaker 1>the Morgan l stop, so I would often hear the

0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.160
<v Speaker 1>hello and the songs from my window. I probably should

0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.719
<v Speaker 1>have placed this together, but instead I spun out an

0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:44.000
<v Speaker 1>elaborate and terrifying theory in my head, story of my life. Anyway,

0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm relieved it was just my friends being goofy. However,

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I still believe that ice that ice cream trucks are

0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:54.399
<v Speaker 1>deeply haunted. Wow. So it was interesting. Yeah, everybody, we

0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.240
<v Speaker 1>got like fifteen emails or something UM suggesting we listened

0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:02.240
<v Speaker 1>to this reply All episode, but there were differences between

0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:05.560
<v Speaker 1>what Kate had originally described and this scam that they

0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.960
<v Speaker 1>looked into on reply All, which obviously is such a

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.800
<v Speaker 1>good podcast and you should listen to um. But yeah,

0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.120
<v Speaker 1>it was it was just her friends punking her right,

0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:16.760
<v Speaker 1>which is also scary. It is kind of scary. But

0:18:16.840 --> 0:18:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it's funny that you would mention something haunting and then

0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.520
<v Speaker 1>forget it, because that's totally something that I could picture.

0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.640
<v Speaker 1>It's funny you would forget mentioning that you lived next

0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:27.879
<v Speaker 1>to an ice cream truck depot. Yeah, that's awesome, because

0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that's hilarious and awesome, but also it makes more sense

0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.359
<v Speaker 1>that way because it's such a specific Brooklyn. Everybody in

0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Brooklyn is like, oh, yes, the ice cream truck that

0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:42.640
<v Speaker 1>goes hello. I also am glad that we got an answer.

0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know we were ever going to get an answer.

0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:48.119
<v Speaker 1>You never know. Thank you Kate in a Ride for

0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:57.080
<v Speaker 1>solving the Zodiac murders. Leggings are so much more than

0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.480
<v Speaker 1>work out clothes. Great leggings are truly a necessity, but

0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.000
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean they should cost a fortune. That's why

0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad I found fabletics dot com. Fabletics, co

0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.119
<v Speaker 1>founded by Kate Hudson, is premium activewear at a great value.

0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.840
<v Speaker 1>They make the world's best leggings. That's right, world's best.

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.240
<v Speaker 1>You get performance, quality and style for two to three

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.399
<v Speaker 1>times less than other activewear brands. Fabletics clothes are designed

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to move with you through your lightest workouts and your

0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.960
<v Speaker 1>most intense whether you're lounging in the house or chasing

0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:31.040
<v Speaker 1>the kids around. They're guaranteed to support you in any activity.

0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Their leggings are available in size It's Extra Extra small,

0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.160
<v Speaker 1>two three X, and in petite, regular, and tall lengths.

0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I love that they deliver on a performance level so

0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you can get the most out of your workout. But

0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.680
<v Speaker 1>they're so cute you can wear them anywhere. Seriously, from

0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.200
<v Speaker 1>bar to brunch. Fabletics has got you covered. I challenge

0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you to try these and tell me they're not the best.

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:53.840
<v Speaker 1>When you visit the site for the first time, you're

0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:58.119
<v Speaker 1>given a style quiz. Then Fabletics personalizes your shopping experience

0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:00.159
<v Speaker 1>so your favorite styles right straight to the top up.

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.840
<v Speaker 1>You can shop as a guest or become a v

0:20:02.920 --> 0:20:05.640
<v Speaker 1>I P spoiler. Becoming a v I P is by

0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.240
<v Speaker 1>far the best way to shop v i P s

0:20:08.240 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>safe forty off retail prices and gain access to tons

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of other exclusive sales and perks. I signed up as

0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.159
<v Speaker 1>a v I P and it's awesome. Fabletics shows me

0:20:18.200 --> 0:20:20.439
<v Speaker 1>the styles that it knows I'll be interested in on

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:22.280
<v Speaker 1>the website. Check it out and decide if you want

0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.119
<v Speaker 1>to buy something. If not, no sweat, just skip the

0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.679
<v Speaker 1>month and pay nothing. Imagine your favorite store was offering

0:20:28.680 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 1>you a discount on all merchandise for the rest of

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 1>your life, and all you had to do was visit

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the store each month to check out what was new,

0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:38.399
<v Speaker 1>with absolutely no pressure to buy. That's the value you

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>get from a Fabletics v I P membership. I love

0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:44.119
<v Speaker 1>being a v I P and you will too. Go

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to fabletics dot com slash call now to get two

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.520
<v Speaker 1>pairs of their amazing leggings for just twenty four dollars. Seriously,

0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.600
<v Speaker 1>these are the world's best leggatings. There nine value and

0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 1>you'll get to for only twenty four dollars when you

0:20:55.960 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 1>join at fabletics dot com slash call. That's Athletics dot

0:21:00.840 --> 0:21:13.119
<v Speaker 1>com slash call, okay, speaking of New York of the

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 1>University of New York. Yeah, it's the twenty anniversary of

0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the show Felicity, Everyone's favorite sometimes sci fi college drama.

0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 1>Y wait, when was it? In Like the last two episodes,

0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:28.640
<v Speaker 1>there was like a like a time split. They did

0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like alternate worlds of like if she'd gone with Ben

0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:35.359
<v Speaker 1>or if she'd picked no Let's just start off with

0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the heavy hitters Ban or no Oh. In the end,

0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I was a nold girl, what I know. But that

0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.400
<v Speaker 1>was the thing is that eventually Ben just Ben had

0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.520
<v Speaker 1>like Ben was a hot douchebag. He was like the

0:21:47.520 --> 0:21:50.040
<v Speaker 1>blonde Jordan Catalano a little bit, but Noel was a

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.359
<v Speaker 1>little bit of a Brian crack out. He was totally

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.480
<v Speaker 1>a Brian crack out. But I think you should data,

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:56.879
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to. Well, also, he was her

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.680
<v Speaker 1>resident advisor, so there's like he was he had that

0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:02.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of like paternalistic thing that I think is kind

0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:04.560
<v Speaker 1>of gross. But then eventually they kind of moved out

0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>of that, and I thought like he just had a

0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 1>little more like pizzazz than Ben. In the end, Yeah,

0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Ben was very like he has like darn catalano, right,

0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:15.200
<v Speaker 1>just like a cipher. Well, he's like, yeah, he's hotter

0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:17.280
<v Speaker 1>before you know anything about him, and you can just

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.919
<v Speaker 1>project like how deep you think he might be on him? Right,

0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you talked to him and you're like, oh,

0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.359
<v Speaker 1>maybe not so smart? Yeah, do you think she should

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:27.119
<v Speaker 1>have gone to Stanford? I forget even that was the

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:28.919
<v Speaker 1>setup was like the set up. I just had to

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:30.800
<v Speaker 1>look this up before we started, and I was like,

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.639
<v Speaker 1>how did this start? It? Also, it was like Felicity

0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>was like it's like porn for College's like go to college,

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.480
<v Speaker 1>It's so fun, and I totally bought into it and

0:22:41.480 --> 0:22:43.879
<v Speaker 1>then I did, and it was ye, you left college.

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I enjoyed college, but it also is just like living

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>in a dorm, like she had a Wiccan roommate, which roommate.

0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the most interesting thing about Felicity in the

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:57.360
<v Speaker 1>end was that there was the writer on Felicity who

0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:01.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm nineteen years old and here's my Felicity

0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 1>script and they're like, you're so great, and she was

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:04.719
<v Speaker 1>on all of these lists, and then she was like, actually,

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm thirty two and you're very agist. Who thinks about

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.679
<v Speaker 1>that story all the time? Oh? Who could it be

0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:16.440
<v Speaker 1>who constantly is like, is now the time to do that? Yeah? Well,

0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>she was four ft eleven and I think that that

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.600
<v Speaker 1>may have been she also, I think was passing off

0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.320
<v Speaker 1>her her husband as her older brother. Okay, that's weird, right,

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there was a very thought through experiment. But

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 1>props to her for exposing the fact that as soon

0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 1>as she was like, actually I'm older than I said,

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:34.679
<v Speaker 1>everyone was like, oh, then forget it. They're like, well,

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.959
<v Speaker 1>we only hired you to give us the youth voice,

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>and too bad you got scammed. Drifted drifted Um. Yeah,

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.600
<v Speaker 1>but she the show started because she was going to

0:23:45.640 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>go to Stanford and be premed, right, and then Ben

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 1>signs for book. Hey, a graduation. I remember thinking that

0:23:54.000 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>was ridiculous. It's super But it's also interesting because after

0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>settling on college, which feels like such a huge decision,

0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:04.000
<v Speaker 1>then being like, you know, ready to go, it would

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.920
<v Speaker 1>have been a very exhilarating thing. I think you can

0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 1>easily imagine if you're at that phase in your life,

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.639
<v Speaker 1>which we were in high school at the time, just

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:14.359
<v Speaker 1>being like, oh, all that work that I did and

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>all that decision making, I'm just gonna like flip it

0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 1>over and do something else instead. It's kind of like

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>an intoxicating thing because then she goes to college and

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:25.879
<v Speaker 1>it's as if she were totally unprepared, which obviously you are,

0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 1>even if you've spent a long time thinking of what

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:31.800
<v Speaker 1>college is, because you have no idea until you get there. Um,

0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, she she decided against Stanford and went to

0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the University of New York. The University of New York.

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>What's the one in SPU Hudson University, But you know,

0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:46.240
<v Speaker 1>n YU apparently doesn't mind being mentioned in shows. But

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>with Felicity, they were like, no, no, it's the U

0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.879
<v Speaker 1>n Y. The U n Y. But I mean, I

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.400
<v Speaker 1>guess Dean and de Luca must have let her let

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.720
<v Speaker 1>them use her name a real capsule two thousand's pre

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>nine eleven capsule. Well, what didn't span nine eleven? I

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>can't remember. Well, it was the twentieth anniversary of the debut,

0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>which would have been ninety eight, but it went for

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:10.239
<v Speaker 1>four seasons. Well, I remember also that it was going

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to get canceled. And did you come to the protest?

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I went with our friends Nicky and Annie and we

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>like skipped skipped class to go to the save Felicity

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>protests at I think she looks good with her new

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 1>hairs studio? How was it really sad and funny? But

0:25:30.640 --> 0:25:35.640
<v Speaker 1>what's what's odd? So it went through until her graduation correct,

0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and maybe after even we I mean, this has been

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 1>making me like, I haven't thought about the show in

0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a long time. And you were saying, you were like,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember anything about it, but I was like

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 1>a fervent Oh yeah, I remember the theme song more

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:52.080
<v Speaker 1>than anything. Yes, it was, and they changed it at

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>one point. It was a very haunting. It had like

0:25:54.160 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the my so called life theme song. It was very

0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 1>like my so called life, but in college, which feelings

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:03.080
<v Speaker 1>feeling feelings, And then she would make the recordings. To

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Janine Garofolo, it was just like a fantasy about not

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>having to live at home with your parents anymore, which

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.400
<v Speaker 1>is like very appealing when you're a teenager. You're like, yes,

0:26:12.480 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>my life is going to begin. Yeah. I mean, I

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:19.280
<v Speaker 1>like watching TV shows about New York so much. New

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>York has a really good TV propaganda department because there's

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>so many good shows that take place in New York

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that make you be like, oh, that looks fun. But

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>most of my friends who went to college in New

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>York had very mixed feelings about that in the end.

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, so when we entered college that was

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 1>right before. I think a lot of people who went

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>to college in New York who were freshmen in two

0:26:41.840 --> 0:26:43.720
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one, there were obviously like a lot of

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>people left because of that. They were like freaked out

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and left. I think it's like some percentage of the

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.919
<v Speaker 1>class that year just was like, Okay, don't well. In

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:54.679
<v Speaker 1>a way, I mean, having a TV show about college

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:56.359
<v Speaker 1>in New York kind of creates the sense of a

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>campus you're following. Just the characters who are on campus

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>send a lot of time in the dorm rooms more

0:27:01.560 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 1>than you would maybe if you were actually attending college there.

0:27:05.000 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people I know who went

0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to um N y U, I think in particular, found

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>that it was you know, maybe they at some point questioned,

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 1>They were like, Felicity lied to me exactly, sold you

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>all good, it's going to be in a love triangle.

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.880
<v Speaker 1>And J. J abrams first show. I mean, that's also

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 1>what makes it funny is to be like that was J.

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>J Abrams like entry into the world of entertainment. Do

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>you think J. J Abrams was shocked that Felicity was

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>like you can imagine him like pitching all these things

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and then they're just like, we'll go. We just remember

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:40.120
<v Speaker 1>because like I read the Entertainment Weekly like TV preview

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 1>issue every fall, you know, and that was like the

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.880
<v Speaker 1>buzziest show. Felicity like this show about a girl going

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to college, like everybody wants it. I have not watched

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>any of the Americans at all, but I hear she's

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>good on it, and uh, it seems like everybody turned out.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>Well that's why I saw about the reunion post. Everybody

0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, everybody looks hot from the show. You know,

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:10.119
<v Speaker 1>here's a little story you might not know about a

0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>man who's made of shadow. Hello, women of the night.

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>This is not exactly a ghost story, but one about

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>an encounter my family had with what I recently learned

0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>people call a shadow man. When I was around seven

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.439
<v Speaker 1>years old, I hadn't experience one night that later I

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>thought I must have dreamt, but didn't. In the middle

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>of the night, my dad, a very low key gentleman,

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>burst into the room I shared with my sister and

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>told us to get up and go across the hall

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>to my parents room and wait there with my mom.

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>He got his handgun out of the lock box he

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.040
<v Speaker 1>kept on the top shelf. Then he had us close

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the door and wait while he checked every room in

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the house for what he was sure was a man

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that had broken in. You see, my parents were both

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>asleep when my dad suddenly awoke to find a figure

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>that had the shape of a man but no distinguishable

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:00.719
<v Speaker 1>features standing over him with a knife about to plunge

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>it into his chest. He yelled, which woke my mom

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>and sister, and I jumped up and began struggling with

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>the man for the knife. My mom also jumped out

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 1>of bed and can see my dad struggling with what

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>she said was a figure that looked around the same

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>size as my dad. My dad thought he had a

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 1>hold of its wrist, but it slipped out of his

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>grip and ran down the hallway towards our living room.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>That's when he came and got my sister and I.

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>He checked every window and door in every room for

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the man, but found nothing. My dad has passed away

0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 1>since then, but I recently talked to my mom and

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.880
<v Speaker 1>sister about that night and now many years ago. My

0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 1>parents talked a lot with each other about the incident

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 1>over the years and always puzzled about it, and it

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>was one of the few things that ever happened to

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 1>them that challenged their understanding of reality. I found out

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:47.600
<v Speaker 1>recently that many people have similar stories, and some worry

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that talking and thinking about them attract and feed their power.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 1>That is such a bad reveal. For the end of

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>the scene, you know, we're not quite done, Sweet Dreams,

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 1>she says. I hope they're wrong, so she's not trying

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 1>to trap us. But yeah, Sweet Dreams, thank you for writing, Jennifer.

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I believe this. That is fascinating. It is you tell

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 1>me what you think, and then I'll tell you what

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I think. It sounds kind of like it was maybe

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 1>a night terror. That's what I thought too. It was

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>sleep paralysis and stuff, that's what I thought also immediately.

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I like to be open to the idea that this

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 1>experience is accurately reflected at the same time night terrors

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:33.320
<v Speaker 1>and sleep paralysis. Like I could see that, you know,

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>he he like springs into actions like wrestling with a person,

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:40.800
<v Speaker 1>and you wonder, like, and then maybe that just started,

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, this chain of events with his wife freaking

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.280
<v Speaker 1>out and believing that he's actually doing it. But doesn't

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>sound like have you seen those paintings that like represent

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 1>night terrors where it's a demon sitting on your chest.

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You have physical symptoms that are then misinterpreted in your dream.

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know exactly. I know it's like you you

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>feel like you can't move and it's very scary. Have

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>you ever had a night ter No, I've had really

0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:09.959
<v Speaker 1>terrible nightmares, but I've never had a nightmare, a night

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 1>terror or sleep paralysis. But they're very common in young children. Apparently,

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like a lot of kids go through um periods world,

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>they'll have night terrors UM and it can appear as

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:25.200
<v Speaker 1>as dramatic and scary as a seizure. Um, like your

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.360
<v Speaker 1>your child will just start screaming, screaming. Maybe Danny from

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the Shining was having night teres. Maybe that's something that

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.680
<v Speaker 1>the Shining two thirty seven ship should look into. Um. Yeah,

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>that's like a super super scary shadow man's story. Yeah.

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking it was going to be more about

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the hat Man, who's a ghost whose face you can't see.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of ghosts whose faces you can't see,

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>which seems like the scariest possible the faceless. Yeah. The

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>idea of like a faceless person. Yeah, like a person

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>turns around and they have no face or you're like

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>struggling to make out their face and you're like, can't

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>quite is very scary. Well, why do you think it's

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 1>so scary? Well, I mean what's interesting here is obviously

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>the other family member, the mom, corroborated the story, and

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>then the kids went with it because they just you're like, yeah, sure,

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>we're freaked out, and they all kind of describe it

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 1>as just a dark a dark figure, like a shadow,

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>like a human shadow, a three dimensional shadow. I mean

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a psychiatrist might have like a field day being like, well,

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 1>that could have been your dad's fear of his dark side.

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:37.280
<v Speaker 1>He had wrestling, he had the gun ready to go,

0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>so he might be paranoid about somebody getting you know,

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>that's obviously his fear. Every dad's fear that someone will

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>come and attack your family, and in the shining, it's

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that it might be you. But this sounds I mean,

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to say night terror, but I also feel like,

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:59.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, but that's the interesting thing. He was able

0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 1>to spring out of bed, so it couldn't have been

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the paralysis. And you would think with a night terror

0:33:03.960 --> 0:33:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that by the time you know, he was chasing the

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 1>man to the living room, that he would that the

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>night terror would have ended by then. Yeah. I mean,

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I think anything like that that does undermine your sense

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>of reality, then that stays with you for a super

0:33:16.720 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>long time because they're like, oh, what if I can't

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>trust my own eyes? And experience speaking of not being

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 1>able to trust your own eyes, I got really into

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>this Instagram account called celeb Face, and I was telling

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>to us about it yesterday because it is super nightcall e.

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 1>I think it's very in the uncanny valley. It's run

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>by somebody who's like twenty or something. They posted about

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>how they were a real person. The other day, accounts

0:33:45.360 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>like this too that have a ton of followers, you're like,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>oh right, or one regular person might still be running

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 1>this account that just does this for free, presumably, although

0:33:54.600 --> 0:33:56.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody should pay them to do this because it is

0:33:56.560 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>a skill. They collect a celebrity photo and compare the

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 1>candid photo to the version that the celebrity posts on

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:10.359
<v Speaker 1>their Instagram and then show you what they photoshopped. And

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy because a lot of people photoshop things that

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you would not ever notice, and also a lot of

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot about Instagram personalities who a lot of

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.799
<v Speaker 1>them have a lot of plastic surgery. But then on

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:30.719
<v Speaker 1>top of that they are photo shopping. The pictures um

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to this like super uncanny point and it's super weird.

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Molly showed me a bunch of these pictures

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and what was I found super interesting about it is

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 1>the arbitrary choices. Because of course, you know, a lot

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>of the choices makes sense in terms of the beauty

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.240
<v Speaker 1>standards that are being pushed of, like you know, waste

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>are kind of nipped in, legs are tanned, all of

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.880
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. But then there are just really

0:34:55.040 --> 0:34:58.759
<v Speaker 1>random choices of like the hair, Like you know, it's

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:01.600
<v Speaker 1>if if a woman long hair is like walking down

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.280
<v Speaker 1>the street, they will take in her hair to almost

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.479
<v Speaker 1>like make her hair thinner. Just things that that don't

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.479
<v Speaker 1>make sense, that reveal these insecurities that you would never

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>have thought about in your life. Yeah. Dorian st Felix

0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:20.080
<v Speaker 1>most posting yesterday about how everybody has kind of the

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.479
<v Speaker 1>same plastic surgery face right now, She's like somebody should

0:35:22.520 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>profile perhaps Bellahodie just denied having surgery, although um, all

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>of these girls have the same face because they all

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 1>go to the same doctors and the face is like

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>this very specific type of nose job that somebody described

0:35:40.000 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>as looking like a four leaves clover. Oh, and you

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 1>see all of these people that are famous and sort

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 1>of Instagram famous and a lot of the new crop

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:53.400
<v Speaker 1>of models that all have the exact same face, and

0:35:53.440 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it is super weird because it makes you question reality.

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>I noticed that with micro blading it which I am fascinated,

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>but I didn't know what it was until like a

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like a few weeks ago. I could have talked with

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you about this month. I tell you what I thought

0:36:11.560 --> 0:36:14.319
<v Speaker 1>it was. Yes, I thought it was like somebody well,

0:36:14.360 --> 0:36:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you say what it is. It's like threading in little

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:21.560
<v Speaker 1>tiny hairs to people's eyebrows. It's tattooing your eyebrows with

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a semi permanent tattoo that each individual eyebrow hair is

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>tattooed on, and it creates the look of a very full,

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 1>very bold and everybody. How's that. Well, it's much like

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 1>when you first notice, for instance, when men start dyeing

0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>their hair like black, when they start going great and

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>then they start dyeing their hair black and they're not

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.520
<v Speaker 1>very good at it yet. Like that first time that

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you noticed you're like, oh, he's dying is because you

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:52.600
<v Speaker 1>see on this library. You're like, I see it, and

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>then you can't unsee it. The micro blading is the

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.080
<v Speaker 1>exact same thing where you're like, wow, look at those

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>eyebrows and then you're like, well I see them everywhere

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're all the same eyebrowser these like extremely thick eyebrows.

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>But it's creating this this new I mean, it's just

0:37:08.800 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of, yeah, a link between faces. I didn't realize

0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>because because I thought it was just makeup. Because that

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>also came in to just like do the really thick

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like the dip paint, you know, put a lot of

0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 1>product or powder or whatever on the browse to make

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.759
<v Speaker 1>them really thick. But I didn't realize what micro blading was.

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was like when like vanilla ice like

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.359
<v Speaker 1>shaved off half aside. That's what I thought it was.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.279
<v Speaker 1>That's micro raising, That's what I was like blading, it's

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 1>like you chopped. I don't know. I thought they like

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.000
<v Speaker 1>took it off and then like we're like threading or something.

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I should have looked into this more, but

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's that they use a very small blade

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.000
<v Speaker 1>to like achieve the look of the hair. Um. It

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.799
<v Speaker 1>has become so normal and I'm so naive that when

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I looked at slub Face and some of these people,

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>when you see the before shots and you're just like

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>bah and some of them are really young also, which

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>is super freaky because you're like your face is still changing,

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Like who even knows if you'll grow into the nose,

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>then like your new small nose will look weird in

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:09.399
<v Speaker 1>comparison to your like real adult face. Uh. Everybody has

0:38:09.440 --> 0:38:15.640
<v Speaker 1>lip injections. Uh, and everybody's photoshop their waist really small, um,

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.200
<v Speaker 1>which is like a thing you would never notice, except

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:20.719
<v Speaker 1>then when you see it in like a hundred consecutive

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.880
<v Speaker 1>photographs of like Victoria's Secret models and they all do it,

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>You're just like, this is crazy, because like things have

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.799
<v Speaker 1>kind of spiraled out of control a little bit. It

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>feels like um And in a way I found slip

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>face like comforting because I was like, Wow, even these

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>like incredibly hot people whose job it is to be

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>hot professionally are so insecure that they photoshop like their

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 1>elbow smaller. Wouldn't it also be sad because you're kind

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of rewriting your own history. And I think what's really

0:38:50.360 --> 0:38:53.920
<v Speaker 1>interesting being our age and not having a digital archive

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>of what we looked like. We have like printed photos

0:38:57.719 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and we can scan them or whatever, but there was

0:38:59.480 --> 0:39:04.160
<v Speaker 1>no a for your average twenty year old whatever to

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like do a good photos. We couldn't face tune ourselves,

0:39:07.840 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>and we weren't talking about the You had like a

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>spring break photo album that we were looking through that

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:17.840
<v Speaker 1>no one will ever see, but it's amazing. It was

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.360
<v Speaker 1>a disposable camera, and I also had my cannon test

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:23.520
<v Speaker 1>is the real spring Breakers? She did some spring breaks.

0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.359
<v Speaker 1>She went to Florida on spring break in college Live

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and live in the felicity lifestyle. Um, but yeah, your

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>photos are all candids because they were like pre digital photography,

0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>so they were like just whatever you got, you got,

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>and you didn't know how to pose really because you know,

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:43.880
<v Speaker 1>you there was no way to like instantly review. I

0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.439
<v Speaker 1>mean you could later with like digital cameras obviously look

0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:50.919
<v Speaker 1>and review, but there the like selfie was I now

0:39:51.160 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>find it like because that's the thing. It's like we

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't like learn how to take selfies until we were adults. Uh,

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's it's kind of like charming to me when

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 1>I look at the spring break photos, like a lot

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 1>of them are just like wildly unflattering and funny and

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 1>like you know, catching people with like they're like their

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 1>weirdest face because you're just like, I got to capture

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>this moment and also I'm drunk on spring break in Florida. Pictures, pictures,

0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.240
<v Speaker 1>and then you just like print them and you're like,

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 1>like these are funny. It's that's the thing is you're

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>just like even in like candid photos of people post

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>now there's still like the cutest of the hundred candid

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>photos you took, you know, as opposed to like the

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 1>one photo you got of that day that everybody looks stupid,

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>But then you see it and you're like, oh, I

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.759
<v Speaker 1>remember that day. That was funny. It's a way better. Well,

0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>it's also a better trigger because yeah, I mean it's

0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>untouched and and you weren't thinking about the photo when

0:40:41.640 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I realized this, when I was learning how to take

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:47.760
<v Speaker 1>selfies and stuff, and I was like, oh, being like

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>like femininity is just pretending like there's a camera on

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 1>you all the time. And like everyone I've ever known

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 1>who was good at it is like also good at

0:40:56.480 --> 0:41:00.640
<v Speaker 1>taking pictures because you just like are always like as

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>though someone might take a picture and like, you know,

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>posing yourself in that way. And I was like, that

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.839
<v Speaker 1>is exhausting. You know, if you're an actor and you're

0:41:08.880 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>delivering things to camera, it can be really difficult. In

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 1>one of the ways that sometimes you're taught to loosen

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:16.879
<v Speaker 1>up is to pretend that the camera as a person

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you're in love with. What it's pretty sorry, wait, so

0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:25.920
<v Speaker 1>when people are like, make love to the camera, that's

0:41:26.000 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what they mean. I mean. It's to be able to

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 1>look into a lens and to trust the lens as

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you would trust of human you love means that you

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of lose the self consciousness because you assume it

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.839
<v Speaker 1>loves you back, right, you know, you can tell. It's

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.919
<v Speaker 1>like it's interesting because like I don't I have enough

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 1>of an opinion where I'm like that's a good model,

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Like that's a bad model. Like that model looks like

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:48.879
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at you, and that model looks like they're

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>like dead in the eyes. And that's the difference between

0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 1>a good model and a bad one. Um. But especially

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:57.880
<v Speaker 1>with all the models now, it is so weird because

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.439
<v Speaker 1>they do all have the same face. The one that

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.600
<v Speaker 1>have that makeover all come out kind of looking the same,

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.839
<v Speaker 1>and it does make you start to really just be like, like,

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>real faces are so nice. Yeah, I don't know. I

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>saw a picture of Cindy Crawford on somebody's uh some

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>photographers Instagram that I followed, but it was like an

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.440
<v Speaker 1>outtake where she just looked kind of goofy, you know,

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:21.480
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh my god, even Cindy Crawford

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>is just like a regular person. You know. Magazines have

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>always been photoshopped. Like I remember the first time I

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.480
<v Speaker 1>saw like celebrity Holly, you know, I saw like what

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:33.200
<v Speaker 1>an unretouched photo of Betty Davis looked like versus like

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 1>what the Herald portrait that they put out that's like,

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, airbrush to the Gods. Wrapped ran a really

0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 1>interesting UM series of essays a couple of weeks ago,

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and one of them dealt with how um like Dove

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and the campaigns that that kind of we're all about

0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>embracing your real beauty and not. You know, they kind

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:57.839
<v Speaker 1>of showed some behind the scenes like we don't photoshop,

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, photo shopping is evil in instead of doing

0:43:01.040 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>something positive, instead kind of shifted the onus in the

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>end to women who didn't feel like they were beautiful enough,

0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 1>as if they should feel guilty for that. Well, they're

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>also still being like, we're going to make you insecure

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.840
<v Speaker 1>in some ways so you'll buy our thing. The Dove campaign,

0:43:14.880 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I think two of them that were called out in

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the essay on Rack that I read. One of them

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>was the one where a woman had to choose which

0:43:21.719 --> 0:43:24.879
<v Speaker 1>door to walk through, the like beautiful or average door,

0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>to reflect how they felt about themselves, and another one

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:32.919
<v Speaker 1>where they yes, it does and also, you know, as

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>was pointed out, average it does not mean hideous. No,

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that's what they're saying I saw some of that stuff

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.439
<v Speaker 1>to where they're just saying, like then it's like it's

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>you're bad if you can't love yourself exactly. But then

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 1>if you think about I mean, for instance, if you're

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 1>not able to shop at stores that don't cater to

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:52.760
<v Speaker 1>your size and then are being told that you should

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>be able to wear whatever you want and it's your

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.440
<v Speaker 1>fault if you're not confident enough to wear them in

0:43:57.440 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>confidence is beauty, but they're not available to you, you know,

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, so it's it kind of exposes this weird

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>double standard where you're doing. It's just like all the

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>like like empowerment, feminism, like capitalism is still bullshit. It's

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:11.320
<v Speaker 1>not still like you need this thing to be happy.

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:13.759
<v Speaker 1>And the idea that a brand is looking out for

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:19.919
<v Speaker 1>your mental brand brands don't fucking care um but slub face. Also,

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, yeah, I was like, oh, like

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 1>even the really beautiful people who are professionally beautiful, like

0:44:27.080 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody thinks they're hot. And if someone does think they're hot,

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 1>we like everyone thinks they're like a psycho, you know,

0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 1>like you can't win, so don't play the game. That's

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 1>what we say. Good God, Molly, good, fud good pod. Um.

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed this tour through the B filled

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>the B bag, the B bag filled fields of our minds.

0:44:50.320 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>So yes, Emily, by the way, is off getting married.

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.239
<v Speaker 1>So if you would like to call and wish her

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>well and your congratulations, please give us a call at

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:03.200
<v Speaker 1>two row four six night and we may play some

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:07.239
<v Speaker 1>of these and uh shout out Emily's nuptials for as

0:45:07.280 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>long as she has gone. She has gone for the

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 1>wedding and the honeymoon. Um. If you also want to

0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.480
<v Speaker 1>talk about anything else, yeah, shadow men, shadow men, your

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 1>love problems, bugs, bees, kind of anything, Felicity, your feelings

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.760
<v Speaker 1>about Felicity or Dawson's Creek or the whole WB block

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:26.760
<v Speaker 1>of the um. You can email us again at Nightcall

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:30.240
<v Speaker 1>Podcast at gmail dot com. Also, please follow us on

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>social We are Nightcall Pod on Twitter, Night Call Podcast

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram, Nightcall Podcast on Facebook. The Facebook is a

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 1>very intimate group right now. Facebook is intimate. Joined the

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Facebook and guests which one of us runs it, they've

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>already guest, they already know. And again, if you're enjoying

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the pod, please consider um rating, rating, ranking, reviewing, review

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and subscribing. Given a call rolls off, the tongue doesn't.

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>The States was present at all.