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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros.

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Speaker 2: This is the Fantasy Football Podcast as me Joey p

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Speaker 2: joep Zapia, and today we're going to continue our series.

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Speaker 2: If you missed yesterday's show on the quarterback version, we'll

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Speaker 2: go back and watch it on demand on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 2: Subscribe to the YouTube channel. But today we're moving to

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Speaker 2: the running backs and the early tiers and the early

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Speaker 2: rankings that you could find on fantasypros dot com Slash

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Speaker 2: rankings again easy to remember, so go check it out

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Speaker 2: there to help us parse through these tiers of rbs.

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Speaker 2: Who you want to move up, who you want to

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Speaker 2: move down? Who better than my two best friends, Andrew Erickson,

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Speaker 2: mister Big Pod Energy, and of course Deepro Derek Brown,

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Speaker 2: the King of Bros, fresh from a beard consortium, beating

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Speaker 2: too with all of his good friends and the beard community.

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Speaker 2: So I hope that went well for you. I hope

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Speaker 2: you enjoyed that. I hope you brought lots of fun

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Speaker 2: creams and lotions and oils home. I assume you did.

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Speaker 2: I imagine your bathroom is just slick with all the

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Speaker 2: beard products, right, is that what it is?

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Speaker 1: I felt like this conversation was going to make a

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Speaker 1: very weird left turn there.

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Speaker 2: I think it has.

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Speaker 1: But yes, we had a long conversation. There were many,

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Speaker 1: many PowerPoint presentations about fade and Italian beards and the

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Speaker 1: construction of those Right now, next year we're hoping to

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Speaker 1: get Andrew Erickson in the door, but he's got to

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Speaker 1: prove that he can grow a beard first before we

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Speaker 1: allow him into the meeting. So we shall see.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like a shot at you, Andrew.

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying it's an accurate one.

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Speaker 1: It's not for me. I'm just speaking for the collective

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Speaker 1: spot on.

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Speaker 3: That's some top tier accuracy debro there you go.

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Speaker 2: Well, look that's what it's all about over here, the

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Speaker 2: accuracy of the rankings. We're going to get into all

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Speaker 2: these next few weeks. We've got a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: stuff just talking football. It's not fans, not betting, it's

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Speaker 2: just football, so it encompasses everything and we just kind

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Speaker 2: of have loose conversations and have a bunch of fun

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Speaker 2: there too. But we're gonna have fun here today as well.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna get to these running back rankings here,

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Speaker 2: and let's start at the very top with the Tier

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Speaker 2: one guys. Obviously, no surprise, we got Jamiir Gibbs at

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Speaker 2: people will debate Bjeon over Jamiir. I'm team Jamiir. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if anybody wants to like stick a claim

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Speaker 2: to that. You guys feel passionate about it one way

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Speaker 2: or another or should we just move on from the

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Speaker 2: one to two debro?

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Speaker 1: But I'm not like dug in passionate about it. But

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Speaker 1: I Amtbjon.

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Speaker 2: How about you, ericson? Are you team Jon here or

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Speaker 2: are you team Edward? I mean team Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: I think I was. I was definitely team Bjeon to

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Speaker 3: want to adopt the team Gibbs as we progress throughout

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Speaker 3: the twenty six Fantasy football draft season. I added Isaiah Pacheco.

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Speaker 3: That's it. And yeah, we've talked about this on a

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Speaker 3: lot of the shows, including the Tailgate. How do we

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Speaker 3: feel about the Lions? How do you feel about the Falcons?

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Speaker 3: We talked about the Falcons of the team that can

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Speaker 3: be potentially picking a quarterback next year? What does that

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Speaker 3: Lions as easiest schedule, Oh my god, this team's going

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Speaker 1: I just feel like we're going to get a one

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Speaker 3: Montgomerydim Montgomery. I mean, we've seen that before with Gibbs

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Speaker 1: But what if they just turned Pacheco into the new Montgomery.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoyed this. Well, what if what if Ladadian

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Speaker 1: What becomes the new Matt Ryan? Ericson He.

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Speaker 2: I guess the idea is you really can't go wrong

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Speaker 2: moral of the story there, It's pretty much it's choose

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Speaker 2: your own adventure with those guys. Now, that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: even harder for me to pick a coverboard for the

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Speaker 2: Black Book. Should I just pivot to Josh Allen? Because

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Speaker 2: you can't decide your running backs. I don't know. I've

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Speaker 1: And making an AI hybrid of Gibbs and Bijon.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to use the AI.

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Speaker 1: We could just call it b Gibbs.

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Speaker 3: You should put you should put Brian Robinson on the

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Speaker 2: You know what I wanted to do. What I wanted

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Speaker 1: Yeah. People people won't get that. That would go straight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the right number. And when you doing you don't

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Speaker 3: Everyone that's what I would do, which everyone's not on

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 2: Look, they're both good at football. They both have situations

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Speaker 2: So I mean, it's a great situation for both those guys.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor is coming into three, Christian McCaffrey at four,

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Speaker 2: you here in James Cook. My most drafted running back

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Speaker 2: all said and done, it turns out that James Cook

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Speaker 2: was still pretty productive. And fantasy. Now they did add

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Speaker 3: It makes the offense score more points, then yeah, sure

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Speaker 3: it's a good thing. DJ Moore can be another piece

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Speaker 3: You still have Josh Allen leading the pack. It's going

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Speaker 3: And I just kind of feel like James Cook is

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Speaker 3: every year he just checks off another box of well

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Speaker 3: he can't be this sufficient two years in a row,

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Speaker 3: Well he is. He can't score many touchdowns year in

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Speaker 3: where at Georgia that what he was known for. That

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Speaker 3: He's in his uber prime. Some of these other running backs, okay,

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Speaker 3: And if he can get that, I mean, worst case scenario. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't get the receiving all right, fine, well he

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Speaker 3: the NFL rushing yards again. Ain't score double digit touchdowns?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, why not pick this guy?

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Speaker 2: I like, well, dude, bro, that was the whole thing, right,

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Speaker 2: And I know you're doing the write ups right now

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Speaker 2: for Black Books. He You're like knee deep in all

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Speaker 2: this stuff, right, which, by the way, comes out in June,

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Speaker 2: so go check it out. It's on nine, is on

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Speaker 2: go order it. It's gonna be great. First week at

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Speaker 2: Of course he wasn't gonna have eighteen touchdowns again. Instead

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Speaker 2: he only had fourteen. Oh woe is me? How will

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Speaker 2: And again, as Andrew pointed out, the receiving kind of

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Speaker 2: think he weakens those defenses too. That makes James Cook's

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree in James Cook is my RB three

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Speaker 1: if we get the the past game, utility for James

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Speaker 1: Cook gets unlocked. Here, Guys like say he runs for

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Speaker 1: But I think the other part of this conversation that

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Speaker 1: Are there going to be offensive changes with Joe Brady

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Speaker 1: What if Joe Brady is just like, look, I'm the

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Speaker 1: want and he unlocks this part of James Cook in

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Speaker 1: the passing game. Can we all sit here and say

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Speaker 1: right now that cannot happen.

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Speaker 2: No, of course, again, hey, look last year he was

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Speaker 2: was it fastwards per game for James Cook?

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Speaker 2: He was sixth overall with sixteen point eight. It's pretty great.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was only behind Gibbs, a chm bejon

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, and McCaffrey. Let's go talk about Jonathanail for

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Speaker 2: the season, it was crazy it was just touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think, so I didn't want to choose violence

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Speaker 4: About cmc one Barkley last year, Josh Jacobs the year before,

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Speaker 3: And Christian McCaffrey is no stranger to this. He's been

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Speaker 2: And that's what it is. It's all the risk factors

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Speaker 2: you're weighing in every single year, and last year Christian

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Speaker 3: It doesn't really affect my outlook for Omaron Hampton because

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Speaker 2: De bro Saquon Barkie last year I went on quite

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Speaker 2: the diet tribe. I had production people make videos of

435
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Speaker 2: me talking about it. I screamed from the rooftops. I

436
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Speaker 2: even put a special section in the Black Book about it.

437
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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley and the long list of guys for the

438
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Speaker 2: last twenty plus years, they wouldn't have four hundred carries

439
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Speaker 2: the next year just doesn't go very well for them

440
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Speaker 2: statistically speaking. It was something to be concerned with, and

441
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Speaker 2: at the very least, even if it went Okay, he

442
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Speaker 2: wouldn't finish as an RB one, and guess what he didn't.

443
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Speaker 2: He finishes RB fourteen and Fantasy points per game and

444
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Speaker 2: fantasy points overall at the position he was fourteen. So

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Speaker 2: now that we have put that to the side, right,

446
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Speaker 2: we didn't have a long playoff usage for Saquon Barkley

447
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Speaker 2: either last year. What do we do with him this year?

448
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Speaker 2: Are you comfortable with this ranking?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not comfortable with this ranking. It's like people

450
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Speaker 1: just pretending like last year didn't even happen.

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Speaker 2: Joe, Like, well, I have seen the bouncebacks too. That

452
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Speaker 2: is one thing that's that's probably the year following. But

453
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Speaker 2: then we've seen after the year following the guys do return.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's been guys who have done it in

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Speaker 2: other sites. They did it for multiple seasons, right, but

456
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Speaker 2: the season after he did the four hundred plus garies

457
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Speaker 2: was either an injury or a bad performance year. But

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Speaker 2: that's priced in, Like right now he's our B six,

459
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Speaker 2: so you're pricing in, like where's the ceiling there? Okay, Well,

460
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Speaker 2: he has to be RB one RB two overall, and

461
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Speaker 2: that's what the bet that you're making. Like if he

462
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Speaker 2: was I have him at RB thirteen right now, I

463
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Speaker 2: have him as like a like on that edge of

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Speaker 2: low end RB one, high end RB two because I

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Speaker 2: just don't understand where people are looking at the Philadelphia

466
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Speaker 2: Eagles and saying, okay, he had three in the historic

467
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Speaker 2: season that he had in twenty twenty four, he had

468
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Speaker 2: three point five five yards into contact our yards before

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Speaker 2: contact per tent, so basically breaking the down for people,

470
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Speaker 2: he was getting almost four yards up the freaking field before.

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Speaker 1: He got contacted. That is an unsustainable number. It's insane.

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Speaker 1: That led all running backs by a decent margin. And

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Speaker 1: last year one of the reasons was the falloff of

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Speaker 1: their offensive line, where they weren't an elite top unit

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Speaker 1: of the entire freaking NFL, top three, top five. I

476
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Speaker 1: don't see that the Eagles are gonna return and be

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Speaker 1: a top three offensive line. Can they be okay? Can

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Speaker 1: they be good? Can they be top twelve to fifteen? Sure,

479
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Speaker 1: that's fine, but a lot of questions helped being one

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Speaker 1: of the big drivers there. And last year the big

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Speaker 1: fall off from that metric where he was getting almost

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Speaker 1: fourty yards upfield before he got contacted, that fell to

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Speaker 1: two point one. That wasn't a horrible number. That was

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Speaker 1: twenty third amongst forty nine qualifying running backs. That was

485
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Speaker 1: league average basically, So I'm kind of saying, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I think they can reproduce that. And at where Barkley

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Speaker 1: is at in his career, we kind of know like

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Speaker 1: who he is, Like he's an explosive play machine. But

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Speaker 1: if the offensive line is not elite, are they going

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Speaker 1: to consistently get him into the second level to have

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Speaker 1: those explosive plays. His mistackle rate hasn't been amazing. His

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Speaker 1: yards are to contact per attempt to rank thirty fifth

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Speaker 1: and thirty ninth over the last two years. It fell

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Speaker 1: last year too, So his age kind of creeping up

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Speaker 1: on him. He's not going to be heavily heavily utilized.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the other guys that like in this

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Speaker 1: top tier, like even him versus Hampton, Like, is he

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Speaker 1: going to get the same type of pass game utility

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Speaker 1: all these other guys, James Cook even has the upside

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Speaker 1: to get. I don't see it. So no, I cannot

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Speaker 1: draft Saquon Barkley at freaking RB six like I think

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Speaker 1: low end RB one, high end RB two is absolutely appropriate.

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Speaker 1: If he goes there in drafts, I'm fine, but I

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Speaker 1: will not press the button at RB freaking six.

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Speaker 2: Nope, that is fair, all right. Before we get to

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Speaker 2: and let's talk about the RB three tier. Starting at

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Speaker 2: number eleven, Kenneth Walker, who I feel like I'm investing in.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he wants the ball, He's gonna get the ball,

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Speaker 2: and they're gonna especially the first four weeks of the season,

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Speaker 2: I think there'll be a lot of Kenneth Walker in

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Speaker 2: that offense. Chase Brown at twelve, I might be too low.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about him in a second. Josh Jacobs at thirteen,

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love at fourteen. So it's a bigger tier here.

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Speaker 2: We got Kiren Williams at fifteen, who annually just gets

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Speaker 2: dismissed for some reason. Javonte Williams at sixteen, Breece Hall, Who, Andrew,

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Speaker 2: You're gonna love this. I'm buying back in at Breece

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Speaker 2: Hall here this year at seventeen. I know you'd enjoy that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, Let's go. That's why I'm buying back in

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Speaker 2: on Breeze Hall, just despite Geno Smith. Just hand the

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Speaker 2: ball off to Breeze Hall. And then Bucky Irving at nineteen,

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Speaker 2: Who's got some issues too, some injuries that do not

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Speaker 2: make me feel warm and fuzzy right now at this

568
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Speaker 2: stage we are in May and the injury news on

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Speaker 2: him is not great and that makes me want to

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Speaker 2: buy all the Kenneth game. Well, I possibly can. We

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Speaker 2: talked about that on yesterday's show too, because that came

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Speaker 2: up so deeper.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with you on this one.

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Speaker 2: Javonte Williams last year was basically a free running back.

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Speaker 2: And credit to Pat fitz Morris because of all the

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Speaker 2: many mock drafts and real drafts that we all did

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Speaker 2: together last year and all the ones where he had

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Speaker 2: FITZI he kept saying, I'm just gonna dig Javonte Williams.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it was right because he just

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Speaker 2: looked at the room and said, I don't think any

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Speaker 2: of these other guys are any good. I think the

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Speaker 2: offense will still be productive. And he was one hundred

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Speaker 2: percent correct. So what does that hold for Javonte Williams

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Speaker 2: this year? And do you like the ranking currently where

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Speaker 2: he is right now as the sixteenth guy off the board.

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Speaker 1: I will toot my own horn. I was big into

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Speaker 1: Joontay last year. I said he could have been last

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Speaker 1: year's JK Dobbins and that was proved absolutely right. I

589
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Speaker 1: dealt with all the haters that said he was washed,

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Speaker 1: he was garbage. Yeah, everybody said Jayden Blue is going

591
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Speaker 1: to take the job and blah blah and Miles Sanders

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Speaker 1: and all whatever. Man, But again we're going back to

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Speaker 1: like people just pretending that are like. Javonte Williams wasn't

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Speaker 1: the RB eleven and Fantasy points per game last year.

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Speaker 1: And while it looks like on paper he had a

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Speaker 1: falloff towards the back end of the season, the deeper

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Speaker 1: metrics were totally fine. It was really just bad touchdown luck.

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Speaker 1: You had Javonte Williams. A week's one through eight, he

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Speaker 1: scored nine total freaking touchdowns. Guys, he was the RB

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Speaker 1: eight and fantasy points per game, and then weeks nine

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Speaker 1: through seventeen he only got four touchdowns. So if we

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Speaker 1: think the Cowboys again are going to be an improved

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Speaker 1: team this year, the defense is gonna be better. They're

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Speaker 1: playing with more positive game scripts at the end of

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Speaker 1: games where Javonte Williams is getting loaded up he is.

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Speaker 1: Nothing has changed about that damn depth chart. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be the unquestioned RB one. He was an RB

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Speaker 1: one in fantasy last year, yet we're ranking him as

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Speaker 1: an RB two.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I thought this RB twelve and fantasy points

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Speaker 2: per game of fourteen point one. He did have eleven

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Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns last year. It was a good season.

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Speaker 1: Lots of room for more touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: There there, there are, there, definitely are. I would say

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Speaker 2: this with Yvonte Williams. I feel like if you are

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Speaker 2: somebody that like me, who drafts heavy wide receiver early,

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Speaker 2: then Gravonti Williams ends up being your third round guy

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Speaker 2: that you start building a running back room around, you

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Speaker 2: can do worse. That's how I feel about him.

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Speaker 1: Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I want to get your gut feeling about another running

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Speaker 2: back in this grouping here, and that's Chase Brown because

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Speaker 2: he's a twelve And if we're all into this assumption

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Speaker 2: that we're living in this beautiful fantasy land that I

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Speaker 2: hope comes to fruition in twenty twenty six, that Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrows stays in the field the whole time and the

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Speaker 2: Bengals have good health and they actually perform up to

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Speaker 2: their capabilities for an entire season, not just little patches

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Speaker 2: of it. That Chase Brown might be really undervalued here,

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Speaker 2: is that a correct assumption.

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Speaker 1: I almost picked him too, so I wanted to leave

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Speaker 1: him for Ericson because I felt like we were gonna

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Speaker 1: be hand holding here.

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Speaker 5: Well, I was gonna Davante, but you have so guys,

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Speaker 5: since a Cincinnati Dallas Super Bowl, We're gonna Samois only

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Speaker 5: Santa Super Show.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can't wait to live stream the

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Speaker 3: Bengals Cowboys Super Bowl. It's gonna be absolutely, absolutely electric

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Speaker 3: high loves.

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Speaker 2: That will never happen this year for one thousand Cowboys supers.

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Speaker 2: You know what I have to I want to tell

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Speaker 2: I want to go back to this and run it

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Speaker 2: on social media. Off February of twenty twenty seven. There

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Speaker 2: is no universe that we live in where everything goes

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Speaker 2: right for both of those teams to get into the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I want to go for Super Bowl right now.

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Speaker 3: Just to do it, I gotta go beals exact angles

649
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 3: super Bowl.

650
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: You know better than that. Just give me your money

651
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: and I'll put it my saving account. That way, it

652
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: could just grow.

653
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 3: Brown Barbie one season. Honestly, I think he could finished

654
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: the top five running back yes year. I think that

655
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: his ceiling is so so high. Look at last year

656
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 3: slow start because Joe Burrow was not the quarterback of

657
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 3: the Bengals. He was injured. After he came back Week

658
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: seven onward, Chase Brown finishes the RB seven in points

659
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: per game. He was the overall RB five in terms

660
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: of expect fantasy points the game because Zach Taylor in

661
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: this offensive scheme, they feature Chase Brown as a three

662
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 3: down workhorse for the most part. And I know that

663
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: there were some scary splits last year with SMAJ p

664
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Ryan kind of eating in. I don't really care about

665
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: that because even though p Ryan was taking.

666
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: I got you a good nugget of con Chase from.

667
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: Chase Brown, it didn't really stop his production. Like he

668
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: was the RB three weeks thirteen through seventeen, so Chase

669
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 3: Brown basically left for dead. Killed Fantasy manage to start

670
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 3: the year over twenty half PR points per game weeks

671
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: thirteen through seventeen, So when it mattered the most during

672
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 3: the Fantasy Football playoffs and championships, Chase Brown was coming

673
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: up huge. And this is how we reward him. This

674
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 3: is where we're gonna rank him as RB twelve when

675
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: he should be firmly inside the top ten. I think

676
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 3: that with Smaja p Ryan as his main competition for

677
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: targets and touches in this backfield, it's a contract year

678
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 3: for Chase Brown, and I can't help but think that

679
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 3: Chase Brown, to me, reminds me a lot of Kyrin Williams,

680
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 3: where I wasn't woke enough to adapt Kyron Williams as

681
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: a thing that Champa Bay really loves this guy, and

682
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 3: I was really slow to kind of coming around on

683
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: Kyraen Williams, and I still have been. I've been wrong

684
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: on him seemingly every single year, and I don't want

685
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: to make that mistake with Chase Brown, who also a

686
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: Day three pick. Zach Taylor came from the Sean McVay

687
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: coaching tree. They found a gem in Chase Brown, and

688
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't see why they would not run him into

689
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 3: the ground in his final year when he's improved every

690
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 3: single year of his NFL career. Joe Burrow loves him,

691
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor loves him. They talk about how talented of

692
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 3: a ball carry is. He's improved as a pass blocker,

693
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 3: and he's improved as a receiver. So I love Chase

694
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: Brown and he to your point, Joe, you're going wide

695
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: receivers early in your drafts. Chase Brown is my hero RV.

696
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: That's the perfect start for me.

697
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: That's a nice lit receiver, wide receiver. And then Javonte

698
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: and Chase Brown for the monies. Baby.

699
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: You know what's funny. We put the show together yesterday afternoon,

700
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: about the time that we're recording it in the afternoon,

701
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: and I just looked at it now to see what

702
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: the updated ones are, and he's actually moved up a

703
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: little bit in the half PPR rankings. He's up to

704
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: nine now already from the twelve.

705
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: Where do you have him ericson?

706
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 2: I guess, I guess all three of us must have

707
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 2: updated rankings or something yesterday preparing for the show. That's

708
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 2: what it kind of feels like we got to move

709
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: the needle a little bit too much. So I don't

710
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: know how long this is going to last, but enjoy

711
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: it while it does. In best ball season at the

712
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: very least. All right, let's go to the RB tier.

713
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: Number four here starts with Cam Skataboo at twenty, Trevon

714
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: Henderson at twenty one. Then you've got David Montgomery DeAndre Swift,

715
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 2: who continues to be productive despite everybody passing on him.

716
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a guy that I'll end

717
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: up with a lot of shares in PPR leagues of

718
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift because there's nobody wants and I'll just be like, Okay,

719
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: I'll just do it. Quinn John Jenkins at twenty four,

720
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: Basell Tutin which is unknown. It's question mark, Jenerim Price

721
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: I don't think as much of a question mark at

722
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: twenty six, Jalen Warren at twenty seven, Chuba Hubbard at

723
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 2: twenty eight, and Rico Downa at twenty nine. I feel

724
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: like Chewba Hubbard and Rico Doubtell will also be guys

725
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: that I have shares of. Debro. I want to get

726
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: to you here about the guy on your list, Trevion Henderson.

727
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: So let's talk about him because I feel like this

728
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: is another polarizing player. I think the talent and the

729
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: explosiveness you saw in Spurts last year, you also see

730
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: that sometimes the Patriots continue to want to be boring,

731
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 2: play defense and run Romandre Stevenson a lot. I don't

732
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 2: know how much is going to change here over year.

733
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: What do you think changes with this Patriots backfield?

734
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't think anything changes. That's why I think this

735
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: ranking for Trevion Henderson is egregious and wrong. I don't

736
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: see what happened last year, and I'm going to go

737
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: through it here. What happened last year? For anybody to

738
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: have faith that is long as Romandre Stevenson stays healthy,

739
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: how does Travion Henderson.

740
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: Take over this backfield? I do not see it happening.

741
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: Vermondre was the guy, remained the guy, and should be

742
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: the guy because if you look at every single metric

743
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: that I care about, on paper, Romandra Stevenson was better

744
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: than Trevion Henderson. Explosive run rate better than him, misstackles,

745
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: force yards are to contact per attempt, yards per route

746
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: run all better than him. Vermondre Stevenson bested him in

747
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: every single one of those categories, and people want to

748
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: talk about, Okay, well, Henderson's pass game utility. Okay, vermondre

749
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: Stevenson was better than him in that one point four

750
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: yards per route run versus zero point nine pass blocking snaps.

751
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: Vermanre Stevenson had one hundred and twelve of them, Travion

752
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: only forty eight. He had a better pass blocking grade.

753
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: He allowed zero sacks in those one hundred and twelve

754
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: pass blocking snaps and only five hurries. Trevion Henderson and

755
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: half the sample forty eight pass blocking snaps three sacks,

756
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: allowed eight hurries. You also take out of the equation

757
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: of two with Trevion Henderson. He had two massive games

758
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: and that floated basically his entire season long vowel you

759
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: in the sense of he was RB twenty four in

760
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: Fantasy points per game. You look at his production in

761
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: weeks ten and eleven, twenty eight, thirty two point three

762
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: PPR points per game. There was sixty PPR points per

763
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: like totality. You take out those two freaking massive games.

764
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: And I don't like to do this for every other guy,

765
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: but when it's two outlier game versus the entire Schmorgasbord

766
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: to the rest of the freaking season. Travion Henderson falls

767
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: from RB twenty four in Fantasy points per game. He

768
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 1: would have been the RB thirty three in fantasy points

769
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: per game. I have Ramandre Stevenson ranked ahead of Trevion

770
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: Henderson because I think that is the appropriate ranking, and

771
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: everything else is just based off of hope and hype

772
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: that I do not see paying off.

773
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: I like a good Schmorgasbord, not gonna lie. I don't

774
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: know if I've ever actually eaten from Amorgas board.

775
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: Have you.

776
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: I stick to Sharkty love a good Charcterioard. Every Sunday,

777
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: I do this char It's and the kids was just

778
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 2: being my daughter's on Sunday. I will get like a

779
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: good lof of Italian bread early in the morning on

780
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: a Sunday before shows and stuff like that to the

781
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: store whenever I'm making and then I'll buy a bunch

782
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: of nice cheeses and fruits and do that little the

783
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: charcuterie board, it's beautiful thing. But the Smorgis board is

784
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: a variety of hot and cold dishes, so it's a

785
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: little bit more Scandinavian.

786
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: So I don't set up that sounds like a flex

787
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: league thing we need to do at your house this year.

788
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, make Celi do it have to

789
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: drop it is asked to work for a change that

790
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: that's really anything organized with the league. Big deal.

791
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: Before we turn the page on this, I gotta I

792
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: want to ask your Patriot fans out. Yes, I want

793
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: the Patriots side of this, like I need to know

794
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: what the Homers.

795
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: I don't care what the Patriots side is. I like

796
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: the logical side of this. Anybody who can't put their

797
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: fandom aside for this job is bad at their job. Okay, uh, Ericson,

798
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: I put you on the spot.

799
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Now him into a corner man.

800
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, but I think I want to venture to say,

801
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for him, that he probably

802
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: thinks along the same lines.

803
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: As you do.

804
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: He's a little afraid of him, but maybe not.

805
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 3: No, definitely a little afraid of Trevian Henderson at RB

806
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: twenty one, because I think bet Remandre, especially if he's

807
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: going to be a thorn in the side of Henderson,

808
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: it's going to be to start the year. So I

809
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: think the only thing I'd push back on with Henderson

810
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 3: and Stevenson is I want to allow room for growth

811
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: for Treviman Henderson, Like, we know how exposive this guy

812
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: can be, we know how good of a pass we

813
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 3: know how good he can be in past protection. It's

814
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: just really hard for rookies. Again, he was herald as

815
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 3: one of the best pass walking running back out of

816
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: college in years, and yet he struggled in that area too.

817
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: So sometimes it takes guys some time.

818
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 2: She Will Campbell was what the turnstile because Will Campbell

819
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: wasn't helping him out any capacity. Guy on the Texas

820
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: and Charges were.

821
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 1: But if Will doesn't get any better this year, then

822
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: trust in the known commodity that's good in pass pro

823
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: or the rookie you're hoping could be.

824
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: I think would take an injury to Stevens into really

825
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: unlock Henderson in twenty twenty six.

826
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: I agree, honest, That's why I think this ranking is.

827
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: I really don't want to draft either guy, to be honest.

828
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: That's that I will tell you I'll take Calemandre where

829
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: he's going because he's like, he's gonna get disrespected. Nobody

830
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: wants to draft him. Guys.

831
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: He's not fun. He's not He's not fun.

832
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: But I like fantasy points, though I don't like fantasy

833
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: points too.

834
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 2: All right, let's if we can find some more fantasy points.

835
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Rico Dowdell because I made the I

836
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: I went out there in the limb and I felt like, hey,

837
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: ricco'dowdell is a guy I'd rather have him than Jalen Warren,

838
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: even though Jalen Warren has had of Reco Dowell and

839
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 2: in draft rankings. Right now, do you think about No,

840
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: it's not that, it's just this is old people problems

841
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: sometimes which all of a sudden, just like gonna tell

842
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 2: the Tombs after the show for no reason at all.

843
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 3: Just Jalen Warren spots Rico dowdellots gave.

844
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Him reflex no.

845
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: No, But the Steelers are gonna give stupog and a

846
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: lot of acid reflux throughout the season. I think, yeah, that's.

847
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: Lauren will do that to you.

848
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 2: So well, let's talk about this situation because rigo' dadell

849
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: is not unfamiliar with the head coach because it's the

850
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: new head coach that was his old head coach. Right,

851
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: Micha McCarthy, You've got Aaron Rodgers back for however long

852
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: his body continues to cooperate, dumping off passes all day long.

853
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: Does the running back situation that I want to be

854
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: a part of here.

855
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 3: Andrew, Yeah, it's a bit of an ambiguous situation because

856
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: we don't know exactly how things will shake out. But

857
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: I see an opportunity for points here, like you kind

858
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 3: of hit at the top rico' dowell, I think he's

859
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 3: mich McCarthy's guy. I don't think it's by accident that

860
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: m McCarthy went out and signed him to after they

861
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: lost out on Kenneth game. Well, Pittsburgh swers did not

862
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: bring him back. Dawdall had a breakout year in twenty

863
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,439
Speaker 3: twenty four. I mean, Rigo o'daddell. I think another player

864
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 3: that maybe we need to put a little bit more

865
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 3: respect on again. That he's been a journeyman from the

866
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 3: majority of his career. He's going to be entering his

867
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: age twenty eight season. He has six hundred and seventy

868
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: two touches on his resume because he did not play

869
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: a lot during the beginning of his career. He's either

870
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: deal with injuries on depth charts, but he's.

871
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: Earned his touches in the last Elliott too like that

872
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: was just never gonna happen.

873
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: He's earned his touches, I mean, the last two seasons,

874
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: he has not opened up as the army one on

875
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: any depth chart, whether it's on the Dallas Cowboys or

876
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. He took Chub Hubbard's job last year

877
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 3: and made it so even when Hubbard came back, sorry,

878
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: like we're riding Uncle Rico here, like to the promised Land,

879
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: Like let's go into the Panthers winning the division down.

880
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't.

881
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: Despite all these things, He's got back to back thousand

882
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: yards seasons.

883
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 3: The last two seasons, he's been a top twenty one

884
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 3: running back, like he's been a Fantasy arby two, over

885
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: four point five yards per carry, total seventy eight catches,

886
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: And I think it's really telling that he was given

887
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 3: nothing right. He had to earn all these touches based

888
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: on his practice, play and what he did with his

889
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: limited opportunities on the field. So I really like Jayleen

890
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: Warren too, but we've seen multiple coaching staffs not view

891
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: him as a belcow, as a three down back, whereas

892
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: with Rico Dwdele I mean, over thirteen hundred totally yards

893
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 3: from scrimmage last year, forty nine qualifying running backs, he

894
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 3: was seventeen to miss tackles, force per tent tenth yards

895
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: after contact per attempt. The guy's just good. So I

896
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: get that he's a little bit older, not the traditional

897
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 3: running back that we like to gravitate towards. But if

898
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: I'm picking a Steelers running back, I want to pick

899
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: the guy that is boys with Mike McCarthy and has

900
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: been really productive over the last two seasons. So although

901
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: I don't know how much of a split's gonna be

902
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 3: with him and Jalen Warren, that'll maybe keep Dowdell out

903
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: of RB one territory. I would not be surprised if

904
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 3: you the RB two for the third straight season.

905
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: Let's play a game. Who had more Fantasy points per

906
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: game last year? Rico Dowdell or Kenneth Walker. That's correct

907
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: Fantasy points per game last year, Rigo Dowell or Breece

908
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: Hall Rico Bresaw Hall, but not by much. Yeah, I know,

909
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: I know, I know it's your boy, it's your boy Blue, but.

910
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: Close, right, very close.

911
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: There just interesting questions.

912
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Do do you guys have Rico ranked ahead of Jalen Warren?

913
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: Because I do I do, yes, yes, yeah, yes as well.

914
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: And I think this is a very similar situation that

915
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: we were talking about just with the Patriots. The sexy

916
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: pick is Jalen Warren, the right pick is ric o'dowdell,

917
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: and it's Mike McCarthy's boy. Dude. I love ric o'dowdell,

918
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: O G. Truther. I've got Prospect tweets about Rico o'dowdell

919
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: out there in the either. So I'm with all of this.

920
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: God, please, I beg everyone, don't search for those on Twitter.

921
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Don't they're out there, Prospect coming out down.

922
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Look, I mean Rico. I like Eerrickson's point too, which is,

923
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: despite the facts a little older, I don't think he's

924
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: got the same treadle attires as a lot of guys

925
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: that age. So I think that's what makes them so intriguing,

926
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: and the situation makes them intriguing, where even though we

927
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: know Jalen Warren is going to be a part of

928
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: this offense, there's just going to be enough of this

929
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: offense tailor towards dumping balls off to the running backs

930
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: that I just want to be a part of it,

931
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 2: Like Aaron Rodgers is not, you know, the arm talent

932
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: he once was. He's just not. And we had, you know,

933
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: the falls all of us.

934
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 3: We saw two running backs be top twenty last year

935
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: because of game out of dump off pass from Aaron Rodgers.

936
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: It's not gonna get better this year, although shout out

937
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: congratulations Aaron Rodgers. And the big nuptials too. He got married.

938
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Good for him. Maybe, I'm sure that'll we know who

939
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: his wife was.

940
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: I don't know, wasn't it just.

941
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: It's just a dark screen. It's like his wedding.

942
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: The wedding racers are just a black.

943
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers' wedding went on the screen.

944
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: This is why you watch the tailgate again, everybody. If

945
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: you just like, if the three of us are your

946
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: cup of tea, just watch the tailgate. This is literally

947
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: the show with no agenda.

948
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: It's just us talking football like this the honeymoon and

949
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: somebody is painted a mural of their wedding pictures and all.

950
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: This is a black wall in the living room, just blackness.

951
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: All right, all right, let's talk about this last year

952
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,560
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971
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,800
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about today, and this one is a

972
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: mixed bag. It's a pot pourri. As they say, some

973
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: guys that I'm really curious about. Some guys that I

974
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: really like, and we'll even talk about some guys after

975
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: this tier as well, if you guys want to throw

976
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: something out there. Blake Corrum at thirty I think was

977
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 2: one of the best guys you get invested. I don't

978
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: like taking handcuff running backs or guys, but I'm sold

979
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: on Blake Corrum. Last year on the On the Way

980
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: Wires show, don't how many times we had to have

981
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: the conversation about Blake Korm and people still wouldn't roster them,

982
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: and we kept looking at you, like, what are you doing.

983
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: There's a role for him here. He's scoring touchdowns and

984
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 2: if you have to hit that emergency to break up

985
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: in glass, Blake Korm can be useful for you. Kaliman

986
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: on guy, another guy that I really liked it. I'm

987
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: getting a lot of shares of this year Whereondre Stevenson

988
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: at thirty two, where you're talked about.

989
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 5: R. J.

990
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: Harvey at thirty three. I don't know how Deebro feels

991
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 2: about him this year, but we'll find out. Tony Pollard

992
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: at thirty four, JK. Dobbins then j CM, Jacory Krusky,

993
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: Merrit Aaron Jones, Jordan Mason. I love whenever rankings of

994
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: guys like that on the same team are back to back,

995
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: because this just tells you that everybody in the industry

996
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: also has no idea what to do with them. It's

997
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: one of my favorite things. I can't get enough of it.

998
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: Just put them together. Because we all know about the

999
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: Minnesota Vikings backfield. It's right, we don't. Nobody does, so

1000
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: be careful. Zach Sharponey thirty nine is hilarious that he's

1001
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: ranked this high because he's not gonna play for possibly

1002
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: the season, I mean, not gonna play until November. So

1003
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: why is ranked this high? I'll never know. Tyler al

1004
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: Juwart forty were shot. Why to forty one might be

1005
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: too low? Kenneth Gainwell forty two is too low. I

1006
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 2: can tell you that right now. That's what he marks

1007
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 2: at forty three, and then Chris Rodriguez at forty four.

1008
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: Speaking of Chris Rodriguez, this is the guy that I'm

1009
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: most intrigued by. Andrew You've sold me on a couple

1010
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: of our conversations about the connectivity with him and Liam Cohene.

1011
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: I am not one hundred percent sure about how much

1012
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: they love Baschell Tuton because of the amount of money

1013
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 2: that they're paying Chris Rodriguez. It's not a massive amount,

1014
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: but it's more than just like a you're gonna come

1015
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 2: here and just be a part of the cog and

1016
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: the machine amount too, So I think all those kind

1017
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: of lean me towards I'm gonna have some Chris Rodriguez

1018
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: shares in twenty twenty six, and I just drafted one

1019
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: on that CBS draft I referenced earlier. So talk to

1020
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 2: me about Chris Rodriguez this season with the Jags.

1021
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like Chris Rodriguez as a pick because

1022
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he's very good. As I've kind of

1023
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: looked at this a little bit more, citing the relationship

1024
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: with Liam Cohen. That's really about it for me when

1025
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: it comes to having faith that Chris Rodriguez can really

1026
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: have a useful and focal point in this backfield. Because

1027
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 3: although he does check off some of the advanced metrics

1028
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: eighth yards after contact per attempt, eighth in rushing success

1029
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: range twenty twenty five, I just looked at what Bachell

1030
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: Twoton did in those similar metrics and they're basically all

1031
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: the same. So Bachelle two was already as good as

1032
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: Chris Rodriguez, who is twenty six years old, journeyman running

1033
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: back that was splitting touches last year with Jacorey Krossky Merritt,

1034
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 3: a seventh round a rookie running back, and Jeremy McNichols,

1035
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 3: who again just another player that has not really established

1036
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 3: himself as a Oh this is a guy that NFL

1037
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 3: teams need to feature in some capacity. Bachelle Tuton has

1038
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: way more juice than Chris Rodriguez does. He's a zero

1039
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 3: in the passing game. He has three catches last season,

1040
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: six catches in his three year NFL career, and something

1041
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 3: that I can never ignore when it comes to Day

1042
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: three rookie running backs when they forced their way onto

1043
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: the field without an injury, and I think it was

1044
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 3: extremely telling that last year the Jaguars took Travis etn

1045
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: off the field to put Bachell Tuton in in goal

1046
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: line packages. I think that that is very encouraging for

1047
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: what tunes Out could be in twenty twenty six, that

1048
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: they were taking travesse Eten, who's having he had a

1049
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 3: monster season last year, got paid by the Saints, and

1050
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 3: they were taking him out the field to put Bachell

1051
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 3: Tune in goal line packages in the red zone, and

1052
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 3: that's where you get fantasy points, is in the red zone.

1053
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: So I think that the Chris Rodriguez hype or love

1054
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 3: has actually gone too far with his connection with Liam Cohen,

1055
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 3: because besides that, I don't see how he's going to

1056
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 3: outpace baseeall too. I think Tune's gonna run circles around

1057
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: this guy.

1058
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: And I don't think he is good. I think you're right.

1059
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he's special.

1060
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, but like that should matter the most.

1061
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: He's not good, It should matter the most, except I don't.

1062
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: I think that Chris Rodriguez is gonna be on the

1063
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: field more than anybody who in fantasy wants him to

1064
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: be from a football perspective, and he's going to be

1065
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 2: there around the goal line, and to me, that is

1066
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: where I think he might win out a little bit. Again,

1067
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. We're gonna watch how this hash is out.

1068
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: I think August will be very interesting to see, you know,

1069
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: some of those preseason games and some of the looks

1070
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: and situations that we get to see a little bit of,

1071
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: and it'll be telling. Look, I'm somebody that has Baseil

1072
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: Tuton in the Dynasty League that it's very important to

1073
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: me that I want Bachelton to do well. Believe me,

1074
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: but I am. I was kicking the tires on trades

1075
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 2: to see what he might be worth out there. And

1076
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: I think the fact that I didn't get a lot

1077
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 2: of buzz and a lot of interest in him tells me.

1078
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm the only person that's kind of

1079
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: has big questions about Bachelot and go into the season.

1080
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't.

1081
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 3: You guys just follow up?

1082
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: Please?

1083
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: How different is this situation from Zach Moss and Chase Browning.

1084
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: His second season?

1085
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 3: And you're right, Zach Moss was really annoying to start

1086
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: the year. But what do we say every single Week's

1087
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: like you gotta buy Chase Brown.

1088
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: Andrew, I want to hand you this microphone. I have

1089
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: this microphone and I want you to drop it on

1090
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 2: me because I think you just that was very good.

1091
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: That was very good.

1092
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: Here it is, that's for you. God, take it. Take

1093
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 2: it from my hand.

1094
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: Thank you. That was very very good. It was very good.

1095
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: I like that, all right. I don't even want to

1096
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: do the rest of the show now, depressed that.

1097
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I got.

1098
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: I got Zack Moss. I got mossed.

1099
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: You got most.

1100
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: Kind of loss me, Randy Mossby, don't Zach moss me Bro,

1101
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: that's gross, all right, de Bro talk about Tony Pollard

1102
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: because I don't know what else.

1103
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: I don't dude, why are we? Why is Tony Pollard

1104
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 1: and RB three right now? Who's taking away from him?

1105
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 2: Trying to get his money? And he got it, he

1106
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 2: got paid. But that's why.

1107
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: Who's taking work away from him? Nick Singleton, Taja Spears.

1108
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't believe it, man, Like I think he should

1109
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: be ranked as an RB two. I have him as

1110
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: an RB two in my rankings. We're talking about like

1111
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: we've talked about this on Tailgate where we're all collectively

1112
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: high and really think that, like the Titans can surprise people. Uh,

1113
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: the offense is going to be better with more pass catchers,

1114
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: hopefully improved quarter back play from cam Ward. We don't

1115
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: think that, Like, I don't believe that his job is

1116
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: in jeopardy at all. From Nick Singleton, who is entering

1117
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: this process coming off a foot injury. Tajy Spears, who

1118
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: cannot stay healthy and on the field. Tony Pollard was

1119
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: hampered by an offense last year that was thirty second

1120
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: and red zone scoring attempts per game, thirtieth in points

1121
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: per game. I think we all collectively believe those numbers

1122
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: are going up this year. And quietly, the Titans had

1123
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: an offensive line that was thirteenth best in yards before

1124
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: contact per attempt, and yet Tony Pollard is an RB

1125
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: three in rankings.

1126
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: Why did you go full doctor evil at the end

1127
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: of that because a prie, because he's all the way

1128
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 2: down there, right.

1129
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: Okay, somebody needs to tell me.

1130
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: All right, well, look, I look Taji Spears. Injuries have

1131
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: really hampered his ability to take over. And I think

1132
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: with the rookie, we all kind of feel the same there.

1133
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: It's like a wait and see kind of scenario. And

1134
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 2: the other thing too, Tony Potter being a free agent,

1135
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: You're un restricted free agent next year, is intriguingly this

1136
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 2: is a chance for you to go cash in. Yeah,

1137
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 2: it's Travis Agen, Like, look at him.

1138
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: We're putting Blake Korm, kyleman On, Guy Ramandre r J. Harvey,

1139
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 1: Rico goes to Cuba, Hubbard, Jalen Warren like all these guys.

1140
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: You went above him.

1141
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: Well, I understand the youth factor of those guys. There's

1142
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: a guy that isn't on any of these lists right

1143
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 2: now that both of you earmark to talk about. It's

1144
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: a guy that's had not one, but two a cl tears.

1145
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: So I can't wait to hear about this about Jonathan Brooks.

1146
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: Talk to me about why you two yahoos wanted to

1147
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: talk about Jonathan Brooks.

1148
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: Here, because Chuba Hubbard is horrible.

1149
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: He lost john once.

1150
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: He lost his job last year to Rico Dowdle. He's

1151
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: probably gonna lose his job again this year. If Jonathan

1152
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: Brooks is fully healthy and the guy that they spent

1153
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: a second round pick on but after they took all

1154
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: the time and the same knee like two years. So

1155
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the entirety of the rest of

1156
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: his career. I'm talking about twenty twenty six and Chuba

1157
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: Hubbard last year, amongst forty nine qualifying backs guys, forty

1158
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: ninth in explosive run rate, he legit had zero explosive

1159
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: runs the entire season. He was also dead last in

1160
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: mistackle rate. He was forty seventh, so not dead last,

1161
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: but close and yards are to contact per attempt, so

1162
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,879
Speaker 1: he's lost his job once he can do it again.

1163
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: And if Jonathan Brooks can even be eighty percent of

1164
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: the guy that he used to be in college. He

1165
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: could take the job.

1166
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: From Jubai as a prospect out of college. You and

1167
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: I agree on Jonathan Brooks. We like Jonathan Brooks for sure,

1168
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 2: but to a c al tears is too much for me.

1169
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: And I think the Panthers have done a bad job,

1170
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, filling in with the Rico

1171
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 2: Dwell absence this year.

1172
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: But isn't that also a feather in the cap and

1173
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: also a quiet signal for Jonathan Brooks that maybe he's

1174
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: further a lot.

1175
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: It's just a bad organization that doesn't know how to.

1176
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: They made so many moves this off season, dude, they

1177
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: made a ton of moves.

1178
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 2: We have so much cap space to fill every you know,

1179
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: glaring issue that you have. And I thought this was

1180
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: a glaring issue as a backup for him, And I

1181
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: don't know if Trevor ATM doesn't do it.

1182
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: By the way he answered, Jonathan Brooks changed his name too.

1183
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: We don't know.

1184
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 3: He has gone radio silence since his brother's big announcement,

1185
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 3: So he's gonna have to do something of relevance.

1186
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call him Trevor ATM then until something else changes.

1187
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: Andrew orson, do you have anything to share here on

1188
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: the Jonathan Brooks scenario.

1189
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: I just want to dad that he is coming off

1190
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 3: those major knee injuries, but he is twenty two years old,

1191
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: and we're seeing guys come back faster and faster from

1192
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: acl injuries. One of the biggest mistakes I made was

1193
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: writing off Christian Watson last year, like, this guy's not

1194
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 3: gonna play towards a cl in October November, and then

1195
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: he comes back and is the most efficient of his

1196
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 3: entire NFL career. Now, maybe that's just Christian Watson, but

1197
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 3: I don't want to bet against the player that had

1198
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 3: that much talent at the college level that even when

1199
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 3: he has played the end in twenty twenty four, before

1200
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 3: he reinjured his knee, he was immediately soaking up targets

1201
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 3: as a rookie after Chuba Hubbard was already on the field.

1202
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 3: So Hubbard has broken down the last two seasons. Dero

1203
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: just kind of listed out. I just don't like the

1204
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: idea of investing in a player like Hubbard when the

1205
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: coaching staff has already given his job to somebody else,

1206
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: Like it's already in their mind. It's like, so if

1207
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 3: Jonathan Brooks looks good one week, it's like, well, maybe

1208
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 3: we should give him more touches. We took Way two

1209
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: Hubbard's job last year, like, let's get Jonathan Brooks more,

1210
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 3: And well that just concerns me. So maybe it's not

1211
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: just about drafting Jonathan Brooks, but it's trying to be

1212
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 3: very cautious about Cheba Hubbard and maybe his lock on

1213
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 3: that RB one job is not really as secure as

1214
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: the contract would suggest like it was last year.

1215
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Last question, guys, sure, is Jonathan Brooks this year's Javonte

1216
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: Williams from last year?

1217
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: No, because Javonte was clearly the lead for the starting

1218
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: role going in, so his captain.

1219
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: So all we need is one news blurb saying that

1220
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: Brooks is ahead of Hubbard when we're in camp, and

1221
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: then you're there.

1222
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 3: I would also say Javonte Jonta had a good rookie

1223
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: season in the NFL, like Jonathan Brooks has done nothing

1224
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: in the NFL. Like, even though I just talked about

1225
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,959
Speaker 3: like you got targets, it was hardly a sample side.

1226
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: I mean, remember Javonte, but I guess his second year

1227
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: Kim and.

1228
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: Melvin talented running back coming off injuries, isn't it talented

1229
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: running back coming off devastating the injuries that can be

1230
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: the undisputed lead back for their offense, and yet it's

1231
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: not priced in at all.

1232
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 2: All right. I did a little homework here where you

1233
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 2: guys were yapping about Jonathan Brooks too, to find some

1234
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: of the guys who have done this twice against It's

1235
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: not too easy. It's the same knee that I'm really

1236
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 2: focused on, too, because that's the thing that bothered me

1237
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: the most. So on your side, Frank Gore in two

1238
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 2: thousand and two and then two thousand and three, but

1239
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: again that was very early in his career, okay, so

1240
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: maybe that's that's okay, And then he played for another

1241
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: fifty seasons after that.

1242
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 3: So you're thom Brooks is on the cor pass.

1243
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: Wait, I just heard the positive.

1244
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 2: I led with the positive, all right. Zameir White also

1245
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Dalvin Cook twenty fourteen, but he

1246
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: was in high school the first time he did it,

1247
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: so it's a little bit different than again in twenty seventeen.

1248
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: I think after that made the NFL good career.

1249
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: I mean, if you get if you gave me three

1250
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,439
Speaker 3: comps of Frank r Z, a Mere White and Dalvin Cook.

1251
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 3: I know it's too I'm taking to the bad.

1252
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: Out of the three a bad baby. Out of the

1253
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: three a bad but but.

1254
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: Two of them was very early in their career too,

1255
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 2: like one was a hog school.

1256
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: Well, Jonathan Brooks is sweet. He was twenty and twenty

1257
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: one years twenty two. He had the guys that got

1258
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: drafted this year exactly.

1259
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: Perhaps there you go, everybody draft John Bay in the

1260
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 2: nil et when everybody started this episode. This is not

1261
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: where we thought we'd end up. But that's why you

1262
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: take the journey with us. You're a Fantasy Pro. Subscribe

1263
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 2: to the channel. Drop your comments below. How early are

1264
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: you taking Johnathan Boks? No, but seriously, how early are

1265
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: you taking some of these guys? Who do you think

1266
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 2: we're right about? Who do you think we're wrong about?

1267
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: Who do you think that is going to be your

1268
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: target the running back position? Drop your comments below. We

1269
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: love to have this debate. We love to hear from you,

1270
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 2: and we'd like to interact with everybody here on the

1271
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 2: YouTube comments too, because we're we're a show of the

1272
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: people here over Fantasy Pro so go check it out

1273
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: right now.

1274
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: By the way, I found Aaron Rodgers his wedding. I

1275
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: found it.

1276
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 2: It's here, is very nice, excellent, well done. All right, everybody,

1277
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: make sure you go check out the rankings for yourself

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Speaker 2: over at fantasypros dot com slash rankings for all the positions,

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: and continue to watch the rest of the series here

1280
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: as we go through the wide receivers and tight ends

1281
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 2: as well. That'll do it for us, but the story

1282
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 2: of the game goes on for Derek Brown Andrew ericson

1283
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