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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, seventy four,

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Speaker 1: Episode two of der Days Like Guys, production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a

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Speaker 1: deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Tuesday, March second.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien. A K du brings my

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Speaker 1: sperm count down right down. Never go to Poundtown because

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Speaker 1: it's so down. Due brings the Western sperm count down

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Speaker 1: like children of Men. We're all going down down. That

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Speaker 1: is courtesy of Abstrustle, the official dickhead. There's so many

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. What an honor to have the official the

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Speaker 1: blue check mark of dickheads. Uh providing a K S

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Speaker 1: and yeah that was I'm I'm shocked it didn't occur

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Speaker 1: to us when we were talking about the West's lowering

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Speaker 1: sperm count. That uh, Mountain dew is probably the culprit.

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled to be joined as always by my

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Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles Grab. Don't go chaste, Sympomo. Please

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Speaker 1: stick to the people and the pos that you used to.

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Speaker 1: I know that Joe gonna fuck around and find how Cuomo,

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Speaker 1: you're just moving too fast? What's outdoor dining? Thank you

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Speaker 1: to the Interdimensional technician for that one, because yeah, a

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Speaker 1: lot of governors are just ready to fucking I don't know,

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Speaker 1: set the clock back to January or some ship. So that,

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Speaker 1: uh is a little frightening. I mean I think a

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Speaker 1: poet once said that. Uh. I think the T. S.

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Speaker 1: Eliot or the guy who wrote The Great Guests, but

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Speaker 1: one of them said that America has no second acts.

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Speaker 1: American life has no second acts. And I think America

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Speaker 1: fucking around and finding out as it doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: find out part. They just funk around and then everybody

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Speaker 1: looks the other way while they find out. Yeah, it's it.

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Speaker 1: We're people just ignore the finding out. We're not finding out.

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Speaker 1: We're not finding out. We're not finding out. We're not

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Speaker 1: finding out. I don't know they're not finding out at

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Speaker 1: all of them. Uh. Well, we are thrilled to have

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Speaker 1: in our third seat one of the classic guests, the hilarious,

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Speaker 1: that talented Chelsea Webber Smith. Happy to be here. I

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Speaker 1: don't have a song to have you, happy to be

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Speaker 1: here to have you. We are going to speak like

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Speaker 1: this the whole time. Uh, what what's new in your world? Chelsea?

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Speaker 1: What is new in my world? Um? I've prepared a

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Speaker 1: couple of rants for you guys when the time comes

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Speaker 1: when I get to have my personal time. So until then,

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Speaker 1: as usual, I'm going on walks. I the most important

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Speaker 1: event in my life as I found a yearbook from

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy and I've been really like figuring out the

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Speaker 1: relationships between the different characters in this yearbook. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the queen be finding out who her boyfriend is. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of information in this book and looking them

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Speaker 1: up on social media. So just another quarantine, uh, projects

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Speaker 1: it's a yearbook with the inscriptions there are no Um

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Speaker 1: it was I figured out that it was like a

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Speaker 1: this nineteen seventy yearbook from uh, New Mexico got on

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Speaker 1: the ground in West Seattle. Is very cool mystery, but

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Speaker 1: otherwise tragically there are no inscriptions. You're getting the interpersonal

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Speaker 1: information from just like your book. Yeah, and I mean

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Speaker 1: they're they're writing up like, you know, she was the

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Speaker 1: the you know, the school newspaper editor and went on

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Speaker 1: fun and uh, you know he said something like I

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Speaker 1: interviewed in the newspaper for that and he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I love watch people, and you know, I can really

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Speaker 1: was presaging the dawn of reality television, you know what

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Speaker 1: did you know, I did a pretty I've been watching

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Speaker 1: someone from like one of my high school I'm sure

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Speaker 1: all those talk to you. What, um, what is there

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Speaker 1: It's pretty boring, you know. It feels like, yeah, it's pretty.

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Speaker 1: It's like very fifties, even though it's inteventy. You know,

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Speaker 1: But all they did they went to this orphanage, and

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Speaker 1: all the little section said was that they gave orphans

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Speaker 1: myf debunking, it's usually that the kind of kind of

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Speaker 1: what you just alluded to, that it's like more square

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Speaker 1: and more like nineteen fifties than the popular imagination remembers,

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Speaker 1: it was not anything by Credence Clearwater Revival. It was Honey, Honey, Sugar, Sugar,

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Speaker 1: You Are My Candy Girl by the Archies by by

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Speaker 1: by Archie as a mused issue. So yeah, I guess

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Speaker 1: looking back, what the myths will bus is like, Look,

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Speaker 1: only some of us were eating ass and into Q

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Speaker 1: and on, not everyone. It wasn't just that ass eating

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Speaker 1: good outfit for your twenties dress up day. Right, Yeah, yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, Chelsea, we're gonna get to know you a

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Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First couple of things

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Speaker 1: we're talking about today. Uh, we're gonna talk about America's

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about GAB continuing our right wing social media

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Speaker 1: just a pretty shallow. This place is not good at

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Speaker 1: being a social network. We'll talk about the right wing

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Speaker 1: outrage in defense of the muppets, uh, and why that

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Speaker 1: and have for a long time. We'll talk about what

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Speaker 1: could be the future of New York City, a future

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Speaker 1: that would make me have to move there. It sounds amazing. Um,

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Speaker 1: moral panic. Kind of a pathetic one, but we do

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Speaker 1: have to talk about it because Chelsea is here. Um. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to any of that, Chelsea, we

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guest, Uh, what is something from

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Speaker 1: your search history that is revealing about who you are,

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Speaker 1: what you're up to. Well, um, I hope you guys

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Speaker 1: But my most recent interesting one is c k Y Videos.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys remember c k Y the DVD somewhere

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Speaker 1: my garage right now? Less you? Yeah, So we're working

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Speaker 1: on an episode. Um And in case people don't know,

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Speaker 1: I host a podcast called American Hysteria. Covers moral panics,

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, urban legends, fantastical thinking, but through um a

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Speaker 1: lens of sort of cultural criticism and uh sociology and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So not do these things exist, but sort of how

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Speaker 1: it's like some kind of a continuation of of Jack

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Speaker 1: You know, no, there's no there's no paid leave or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. But the oreoke, well, here that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't Nibiscos saying that that was the cookie talking.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna take that up with the cookie. I don't

427
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: think the cookie has benefits or hr so I don't know.

428
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Speaker 1: I I feel like the it's interesting to you the

429
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: potato head thing on a continuing with the pepsi ad

430
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: because I feel like the pepsi Ad was an example

431
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: of the brand trying to appeal to people who have

432
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: progressive politics and it's just like failed miserably because they

433
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: first of all, it was just poor, like horribly handled,

434
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: but also, uh, it's just a more subtle thing to

435
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: do that, whereas the I do wonder like I would

436
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: love to see a marketing material leak like they had

437
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: with the logo design for pepsi where they were just

438
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: like posed for twenty million dollars by people who are

439
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: just like throwing out how to use photoshop. Yeah, who

440
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: knew how to use photoshop. But I wonder if this

441
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: is part of the calculus at this point, that because

442
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: the right is just so reliable in its outrage and

443
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: you know exactly what is going to happen when you

444
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: do something that is even remotely progressive in any way

445
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: that the right is going there's going to be an outrage. Uh,

446
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: that is incredibly reliable and that automatically pits you against,

447
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: so it it's like a safer bet to do something

448
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: that's designed to outrage the right and be safe as

449
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: opposed to like trying to do whatever the funk the

450
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: pepsi ad was trying to do. Yeah, I think there's

451
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: or it's like it's just genius troll marketing. It's like

452
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: watch but nobody give a funk about potato Head. We're

453
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna do this thing. It's going to outrage the right.

454
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: Every renews outlets going to cover it and without paying.

455
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Now even people have heard, well, Hasbro's on the right

456
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: side of the woke wars and that's all they had

457
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: to do was just pist off the right um, and

458
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: that's that seems That also seems very like a very

459
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: feasible marketing plan to save money on on your ad

460
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: Bucks because you see it done with other stuff too,

461
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's normally just like some sensational product

462
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: they used to get blocks to be like, oh my god,

463
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: a log that smells like beef, but like this ship

464
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: they can get everywhere, like just past of toy blogs

465
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: or food blogs by making by entering the culture wars

466
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: and be like and we're right, and honestly the people

467
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,959
Speaker 1: on the right, they just talk shit. What would I

468
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: still see them drinking Kruig and wearing Nike. So yeah,

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00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: I want I want somebody from the marketing world. Uh,

470
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: if anybody, if any it is like GNG works in

471
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: marketing and knows, like I bet there's a term for

472
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: this whatever is like basically right wing croll baking. It's

473
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be so euphemistic. You'll be like organic

474
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: societal reconciliation strategies. Oh all right, let's get into some news.

475
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: America is. I mean, we've talked about double standards all

476
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: over the place, but Miles, you you had kind of

477
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: written up a couple of places where you're seeing America's

478
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: double face all over the place. Just so yeah, if

479
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: it's not, if it aint double face, it doesn't belong

480
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: in your face or whatever the Carl's Junior thing is.

481
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: But it's just this whole okay, Like I'm you know,

482
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: like everything. If you're an aware person who's progressive, you'll

483
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: find someone to be so outraged in this country without

484
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: without even trying. Um. The first thing was, Hey, I

485
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: was just reading this thing about how these proud boys

486
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: they're being arrested, some of them are going to be

487
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: on conspiracy charges which carry just really lengthy sentences and

488
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: reading some of the actual descriptions of the people that

489
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: were charged. Um, you know, one guy was roaming, was

490
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: prowling around with a fucking axe handle and like threatening

491
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: to take out police. Okay, and this guy didn't get shot.

492
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: He'd gotten people's phases. You see him in video. Um,

493
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: nothing happened. It wasn't, you know, the only person that

494
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: there's only one person shot and killed by police like

495
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: sort of in like the main sort of melee of it,

496
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: and the quote unquote security around the capitol look more

497
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: like you know, frosh orientation at a university. You know,

498
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a welcome wagon exactly, but it wasn't

499
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: really like Yo, who are you? What's going on? Who

500
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: are you? What the you doing here? So then cut

501
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: to the George Floyd trial is about to kick off

502
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. They have already barricaded the courthouse and shut

503
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: down the street where the court is for a trial

504
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: that starts in one week. In one week, they're about

505
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Speaker 1: to start the trial, and they have already fortified the

506
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: place of factory because they know they're wrong. You know

507
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, and the visuals of something like you

508
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: can get a lot of intel that or watch the

509
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: news that these people are going to storm the capital.

510
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: You could prepare because whatever, you know, because it's white supremacy,

511
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: will little rock whatever something like this. People outraged because

512
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: of an injustice that's being committed, and now you're like,

513
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: get the fucking steal wire out the tanks. Everything called

514
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: a you know, called Goku from Dragon Ball, so he

515
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: could fucking handle these people. I don't know what, Like,

516
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,239
Speaker 1: it's so next level. So that was just like the

517
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: first thing that was really jarring to see. It's just

518
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: sort of this the duality of like two situations where

519
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: municipal buildings are protected or not protected, and like what

520
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: the outcomes are possible? Like or are possible? And the

521
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: other thing that came out of the Minneapolis thing is

522
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: the city was gonna hire social media influencers during the

523
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: George Floyd trial to reach out to communities of color

524
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: with city approved message jing to talk about the case

525
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: and people like what the funk is that they said?

526
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: Last Friday, the council unanimously approved a public and safety

527
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: communication plan tied to the upcoming trials, which paid two

528
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: thousand dollars per person uh to six influencers in the

529
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: city's Black, mong Latino, Native American, and Somali communities. They

530
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: scrapped that because everyone was like, what the funk are

531
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: you talking about. They said it was just to like

532
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: get information into the communities. Either way, city funded messaging

533
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: around one of the most significant trials around racial injustice

534
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: being pumped into communities is deeply problematic. So good for

535
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: them for figuring that out. These are people who are

536
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: probably going to be covering the story anyways, So by

537
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: adding a paycheck to it and like it being the

538
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: official city like like the unofficial official city approved messaging, Uh,

539
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: it just feels like, yeah, I mean that's like can

540
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: you imagine It's like, y'all, is Derek Chauvin invited to

541
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: the cookout? Like, no, get the funk out, Like that's

542
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: the kind of insidious ship that I can just you know,

543
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: not that it's gonna be that fucked up, but in

544
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: a way just as offensive. Um, the next one is

545
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: just about how Biden is handling Saudi Arabia, specifically mohammedd

546
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: Been Salmon. Okay, we were we were talking about an

547
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: American national Jamaha, Shoji was cut up and tortured, murdered

548
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: on the okay of mohammedd Been Salmon. Trump is just like,

549
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: let it rock, and we're like, of course he's gonna

550
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: let it rock. But at the same time, I think

551
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: we we can't really trick ourselves too much because the

552
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: U S and Saudi Arabia, Like, it's I don't know

553
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: when there's gonna be any kind of reckoning of this

554
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: relationship that clearly did some damage. But you know, when

555
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: you look at what Biden was saying and doing, for example,

556
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: on we talked about this strike in Syria against Irani

557
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: and back facilities and what was going on there. But

558
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: there's this need to try and get the nuclear deal done,

559
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: to try and have Iran come back to the table.

560
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: They're already being crippled with sanctions, but they're saying release

561
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: the sanctions as a you know, a show of goodwill

562
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: and then we can begin negotiat because right now you're

563
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: just killing us and then just demanding more, and so

564
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: you have to kind of see from our standpoint too,

565
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: it's like, well, if this is gonna be a fight

566
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: to the death, then we'll fucking knuckle up. Like that's

567
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: just how human nature works. Sanctions are violence are I mean,

568
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: and a lack of resources getting to people that need it.

569
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: So Mohammed been someone kills an American. Joe Biden calls

570
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: it Mohammed Bin Salman's dad. The king first to be like,

571
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: so here's the thing. You know, we're gonna make it hot,

572
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I think, but we're not gonna do anything. And you're

573
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: just seeing the way two things are being handled, right

574
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: because on one side, I get there. There's a lot

575
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Speaker 1: to just to talk about and parsed through the United

576
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: States Saudi relationship as it relates to petro dollars, how

577
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: they helped us, uh make keep the dollar as like

578
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: the standard when it talks when we're talking about trading petroleum,

579
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: because that's a huge issue too, on top of being

580
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: a strategic ally on the region. But the whole thing,

581
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: whether it's white supremacy or autocratic regimes like the United States,

582
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: it's like they're so inconsistent and we ignore the bullshit

583
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: depending on like if it's white supremacy, the US is

584
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: gonna handle it. We have to go down the checklist.

585
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: What do the people who are perpetrating look like and

586
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: what do the victims look like if it comes to

587
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: autocrats with a pension for human rights violations, it's like, well,

588
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: how much are they spending on arms with us? What

589
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 1: can they do for us? And also what do the

590
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: victims look like? Because I think one thing is for

591
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: certain that if the victims are anonymous or faceless and

592
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: don't look camera ready, they can die in droves and

593
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: the needle won't move in this country. And that's the

594
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: same thing with unarmed people of color being killed by police,

595
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: or maybe the people that are being killed in Yemen

596
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: by Saudi Arabia. There's just this whole thing of like, well,

597
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's not it's not a it's not because

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: see Jamaha Shoji wasn't part of an elite class so

599
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: had connections to it. So that already changes the game,

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00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, you know, the

601
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: United States will always there's not It's it's hard to

602
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: say it's always moving consistently in one direction on an

603
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: issue unless it's taxes. That's the only thing I can

604
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: really think of. On the other hand, uh, nobody likes

605
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: to have their parents called by the teacher. That's always scary. Uh,

606
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: So NBS must have been really nervous when he heard

607
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: that phone call was happening. Um just locked up more

608
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: of his cousins or something. But yeah, just the handling

609
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: of you know, the other thing is Joe Biden called

610
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Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia a pariah state when he was running for office.

611
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Where's that energy joke? But at the end of the day,

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00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. But at the same time, name a

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00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: single U S president that really fucking puffed their chest

614
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: up at Saudi Arabia. You know, it's it's a whole

615
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: other thing. And you know, in our relationship to Iran

616
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: was similar, but ship changed because when they're when the

617
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: shop uh you know, was fell out of power, and

618
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 1: now we had someone in like anti American theo, like

619
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: a theocratic class move into power, then that immediately shifted relationship.

620
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that the Biden administration

621
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: says out loud, Well, we don't want to say, we

622
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: don't want get too hot because we need them there

623
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: because then if they totally turn anti America, then it's

624
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: going to be some kind of a very similar thing

625
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: that's played out with other quote unquote allies in the region.

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00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: Right put it simply, you know, the US has three,

627
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: like not many options. When it comes to saud Arabia,

628
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: they either go they say okay, we're done here sanctions

629
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: that is going to completely push them away, and now

630
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: you have a country that used to be this place

631
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: that you could launch all your scary war machines from

632
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: to scare the other people in the region from that's gone,

633
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: and then you turn that into an enemy. The other

634
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: is just to do what has been happening, which is

635
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 1: to just look the other way and be like, well,

636
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Speaker 1: thanks for the half past collaboration on some like anti

637
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: terror stuff we do. And then also, i mean think

638
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: about it, like they didn't say anything after nine eleven. Yeah,

639
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: I mean it's like if you just lookury history of

640
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: that relationship at pretty pretty wild. It's the same thing

641
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: like when it comes to those strategic allies and just

642
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: these partners, we have the same thing. Like in Israel

643
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: in twos an American national was there was died of

644
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: a sum as the UN called it a summary execution.

645
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: We're being part of a flotilla to help like refugees,

646
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: but again that didn't I don't think there's a single

647
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: person unless you're really interested in this area of of

648
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: like the world that would that would have heard that

649
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: in the US because that's the other part, because it's

650
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: all like the other things, all tied to capital, so

651
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: it's all fun up right. Um well, speaking of all

652
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: fucked up sepack happened last weekend. Uh, Trump had his

653
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: if his going on on the phone on Fox News

654
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: for a whole evening talking about the legacy of Rush

655
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Limbaugh didn't count as his official coming out coming back

656
00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: into the media spotlight. This certainly did. He had the

657
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: keynote or like the final climactic speech at Speck, and

658
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, the next morning, Monday morning, barely on the

659
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: front page of Fox News or Drudge. I don't know, Like,

660
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: I think part of the problem for him is that

661
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any new messaging, like because personally, like

662
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: he can't he can't move on from losing the election

663
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: and that can't move on from Hillary, yeah exactly. Uh.

664
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Speaker 1: And also not having Twitter. Yeah, you know, just just

665
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: night and day after that one like one action that

666
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: also could have happened a really long time ago. But

667
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: that's and I think it's like that there does seem

668
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: to be a movement on in terms of like people

669
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: he gotta he's still at job approval with the attendees

670
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: of Speck, but only sixty eight percent said they want

671
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,760
Speaker 1: him to run again in even though he basically announced

672
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: he was going to during his speech and also announced

673
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: that he's staying with the Republican Party. But I just

674
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: don't think I think there's some movement in this, like

675
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: as it becomes more and more of an accepted reality

676
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: that he lost, uh, and you can't really there's no

677
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: evidence that there was cheating, like even now like Newsmax

678
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: can't even say that the voting machines were were rigged.

679
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: So it's like, I just think he's playing a weaker

680
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: and weaker hand as as long as he stays on

681
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: this current note, which I don't know if his uh

682
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: sucking like whole where his you know, sense of self goes,

683
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: is going to allow him to move on from an

684
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: l like that. So I just they have some kind

685
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: of agreement, you know, for him to say I'm staying

686
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: with the party sounds like something I would have negotiated

687
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: if I was the RNC, you know what I mean,

688
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: And like what the terms of that is, which is okay,

689
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: we'll continue to try and fucking protect you, um, but

690
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: like just stop saying wild ship because the other thing

691
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: too is like out of seapack. There were a few

692
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: different you like Rick Scott, who I was surprised at

693
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: Center of Florida. He was like, Biden one, fair and square. Uh,

694
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: just so we know, I'm just gonna say that out

695
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: loud here at sea pack. But then there are other

696
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Republican politicians too, were saying like we're we're past Trump, Like, yes,

697
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: he's part of the Republican Party, but the party can't anymore,

698
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: no longer be about one person because that actually affects

699
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: the ability of every other candidate to be elected. And

700
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: I think maybe that's like the one thing they're taking

701
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: from this is just like just we got to allow

702
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: the party to be amorphous enough that their first thing

703
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: isn't it's whatever Donald Trump is, because that's their that's

704
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: their that's their brand issue at the moment. And of

705
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: course there's like a lot of talk of splitting the

706
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: party now, which feels like such a reality. It's so

707
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: hard for me to imagine i mean, a Trump ever

708
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: winning again, but be just sort of like maybe I

709
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that because that's like some ship, but I

710
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: don't know. It just feels like I don't. I I

711
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: don't see a pathway to success. I mean, do you

712
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: guys agree with that? Or do you think I'm being naive?

713
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to see right now. But he's

714
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: I think he's still the most dangerous candidate on either

715
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: side because he's got this massive base that is impervious

716
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: to pulling and fats and he's the he's now the

717
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: default candidate who gets to benefit from the anyone but

718
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: the guy in office, uh vote. And I feel like

719
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: that's a scary world because he has such massive name

720
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: recognition um and all he has to do is like

721
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: find new talking points, and like, I feel like we're

722
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: at a very low tied moment right now because he

723
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: has been unable to move on from losing, and everybody

724
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: knows he lawin so he just looks kind of ridiculous.

725
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: But to to again to only like yeah, yeah, but yeah,

726
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I I can I will

727
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: never say never when when it comes to him and

728
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: his plan, he's going to cause a lot more problems,

729
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, Like there there's a lot more potential I

730
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: think for violence and sort of like commanding different actions

731
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, it's like cognitive dissonance. People

732
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: are never going to give up. I mean people do,

733
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: but the hardcore ones, it would cause so much distress

734
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: to try to change that stance after, you know, the

735
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: last five years of their lives being dedicated to this

736
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: charismatic leader. It's it's really really hard. But that we

737
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: saw him lose by so much, it would be really

738
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: like you said, he'd have to revise talking points, but

739
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: it would it would all hinge again on like you said,

740
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: like not Hillary or not Joe Biden. But I don't.

741
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: I just don't see it unless there's some bombshell. But

742
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, Hillary was just so there's so much tied

743
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,439
Speaker 1: in with her, and Biden is just kind of like

744
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, I think the one thing is SPA.

745
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: They definitely the masks are all gone. Now they're all gone.

746
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: They have no masks anymore. The State times a fucking

747
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: Nazi room, yeah, or one of those rude symbols that think, right,

748
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: there's no other explace there are another actions. How many

749
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: people did that pass through? Yeah, it doesn't I'll say this,

750
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what they intended or didn't and if

751
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: that was an accident, because run Nazi stage or not,

752
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: They're They're entire schedule and speaking events were filled with

753
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: anti democratic want to be autocracy, like how do we

754
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 1: fuck over our Essentially you distill it down like how

755
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: do we win elections when we can't win elections? Or

756
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: like how do wig wig elections? Because all the clock

757
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: is ticking and if we're gonna be a part of this,

758
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to switch our entire system of governance

759
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: in this country for us to be able to have

760
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: a shot at ruling. So with that, democrats really need

761
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: to be like, oh I saw that over the weekend, assholes,

762
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: and I'm not dealing with any of y'all were This

763
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: is just so you know that if I mean, this

764
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: is a quote unquote representative democracy, but if you have

765
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: one party who's out to be like, oh yeah, we're

766
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: we're the we're here for not this, like we're actually

767
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: here to try and nickel and dime the local constitutions

768
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 1: and laws for it to be essentially this minority ruled

769
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: autocracy or whatever. Whose president you gotta fucking deal with

770
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: them like that rather than being like, oh, you know,

771
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's just there. There's a lot. There's a

772
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: lot going on on that side. It's like, no, dude, there,

773
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: this is what it is, So now you have to

774
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: actually address the threat properly. Yeah. The one messaging that

775
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: seemed to be consistent top to bottom was like trying

776
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: to fight back against mail in voting and uh, only

777
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: sick people or people like, hey, you have to go

778
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: through all these steps to legally vote by mail, which

779
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: you know obviously benefits the Republican Party, um, which is why.

780
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: But they don't want people to jump through hoops to

781
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: buy a gun, right yeah, yeah, oh that's too much.

782
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: That's too much. But if you vote, we all look,

783
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 1: we can all agree you need to be able bodied, uh,

784
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: be able to walk, have a job that will let

785
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: you off that the like. No, but that's how that's

786
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: how so transparent this ship is. And I wish the

787
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: like everyone who is responsible for like reporting it like

788
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: on a massive scale, and then a leadership level would

789
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: be like, we have to really talk about what this

790
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: is objectively and they can go and try and part

791
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: like mince their words and ship like what we're looking

792
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: at is this, this is what it is. There's a

793
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: legacy of this. This is not new, this is it's

794
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: been every voting has been an issue in every civil

795
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: rights movement, even if it's like quiet, right, it's been,

796
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: it's always been. Why wouldn't it be a focal point

797
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: and why wouldn't it be something that is an obsession

798
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: because it is the expression of the people which can

799
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: be manipulated and has been since and before probably you know,

800
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: with with landowners and all that bullshit. But like, it's

801
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: not I just don't think it's it's not surprising, and

802
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: it's just as everything is is just now quiet and

803
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: insidious and not quite so loud as it maybe was before.

804
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I feel like it's it is louder,

805
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: right because like you feel like the vote Civil Rights

806
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: Act in sixty four, like that helped white people be like, okay,

807
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: we have to deracialize a lot of star racism because

808
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: that didn't work. You see what happened? Do we overplayed

809
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: that hand and now they have more rights than we

810
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: wanted them to have, so that a lot of school choice,

811
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: ship and all this other stuff started coming out because

812
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: they couldn't. They had they had to let go of

813
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 1: those words. They've now fully like it's like they're coming

814
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: back around to it in like a very less elegant

815
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: way where it's like the most charged dog whistle language

816
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: that like at least school choice might confuse somebody, right,

817
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it sounds like freedom, Yeah, exactly.

818
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: But the other ship that they're saying is so like

819
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: on on its nose. You're like, are y'all even try

820
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: like have you learned or you're just being like this

821
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: is now they've completely are like no, we're just relying

822
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: on our worst habits and instincts now, and that's all this,

823
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: that's all it was too, but now in a way

824
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: that we don't even know how to finesse appearing in public. Yeah,

825
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean dog whistling from a stage that looks like

826
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: a Nazi ruin whistling, Right, it's kind of dog even

827
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 1: with like school choice, like you said, that is such

828
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 1: a dog whistle of tax exemption like back to And

829
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: it's just so weird how we don't talk about the

830
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: moral majority and the fact that like abortion was like

831
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: a created, manufactured period, like it was a manufactured outrage.

832
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: Evangelicals didn't care. In fact, they more supported it because

833
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: they hated Catholics. But it was like, you know, it

834
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: was the tax exemption was they didn't want to desegregate

835
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 1: their schools, but they didn't want to lose their tax exemption.

836
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: So they were able to mobilize a conservative Christian vote

837
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: for the first time in a really long time through abortion.

838
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: But it was all hiding the fact that they wanted

839
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: to not have to desegregate their schools. And this is

840
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: in the seventies eighties, and that's hidden. It's a hidden thing,

841
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 1: and it's covered by school choice, tax exemption, religious freedom,

842
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: all these sort of things that we still hear, but

843
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: that used to be an issue of segregation. And like

844
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: Bob Jones University, you couldn't date interracially until the year

845
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: two thousand and they still kept their tax exemption. They

846
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Speaker 1: used Reagan to try to do what I mean, this

847
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: is like it's not the same thing as voting, but

848
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: it's like we're talking about it's like these dog whistles

849
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 1: have such history and you may not know it, but

850
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 1: it still can like trigger. He's sort of like ingrained

851
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: dis ingrained ship. We all have the Boston the desaggregation

852
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: of Boston public schools and the just incredible amounts of

853
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: rioting and violence and just open war in the streets

854
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: that happened around that is one of those stories that

855
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: everybody should go read if you haven't, um, because it's

856
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: like one of those ones where I heard it in

857
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: my thirties and I was like that, how is this

858
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: one of the how is this not one of like

859
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: an entire section of US history? But it's because it

860
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: deal and they like to. Yeah, any anything that makes

861
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: that issue at the forefront of US history they liked.

862
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 1: It's just so uncomfortable. It just makes me so uncomfortable. Yeah, alright,

863
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: let's take one more break and we'll be right back.

864
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: And we're back. Uh, And I wanna talk about to

865
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: pop culture icons that are being challenged by Republicans and

866
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: Democrats on the From the Republican side, Donald Trump Jr.

867
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: Is mad, He is t owed man. Uh. The Muppets

868
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: have now this is a quote from him, The Muppets

869
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: have now been canceled. Apparently the Muppets have now been canceled.

870
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing these psychos won't destroy. Liberalism is a disease

871
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: the and then he reiterated that over the weekend at

872
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: sepack Um. This is all based around a disclaimer. Brief

873
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: disclaimer that has been added to the beginning of some

874
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: of the episodes of The Muppet Show that was just

875
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: added to Disney Plus because some of them have extremely

876
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: racist puppet characters that are still in the shild that's

877
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying about. They said, hey, y'all, were there's

878
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: some wild as racist puppets in here. We're sorry, just

879
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: so you know, And he's like that that equals cancelation somehow,

880
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: that exactly. But that's true. Awareness equals cancelation, awareness accountability,

881
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: because it's not canceled, it's accountability. That's what it is.

882
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: It's so black and white to them. It's like something's

883
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: either got to bad, period. So it's like if there's

884
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: a critique, then it's as if it is entirely bad

885
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: versus just like here's a bad thing. Here's you know,

886
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: the Muppets saying we're sorry about this. This isn't good.

887
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: But it's still even on there, which whatever you can

888
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: say about that, but I you know, it's still they're

889
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: giving sort of an acknowledgement and it's just whatever, guys,

890
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: such a fucking doink. Yeah, but I mean it's across

891
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: the board. Also sorry. One episode features Johnny Cash perform

892
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: in front of a giant Confederate flag, and they left

893
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: that in there. They're disclaimer. These stereotypes were wrong then

894
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: and are wrong now. Rather then remove this content, we

895
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learned from it, and

896
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:17,959
Speaker 1: sparked conversation to create a more inclusive future together. Um.

897
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: Fox just uh latched onto this non story, using it

898
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: as yet more evidence of cancel culture. One of the

899
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: hosts on Fox and Friends that I don't remember the

900
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: Muppets ever being offensive. Here we are again with cancel culture. Uh.

901
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: And in an interview with Tom Cotton, they asked him

902
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: about it, because why ask a sitting US senator a

903
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: nonpuppet based question in the middle of the pandemic um

904
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: and the the amazing thing I write. Jam points out

905
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: that if anyone's been trying to cancel the Muppets, it's conservatives,

906
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 1: like for a long time. Uh. When their newest movie,

907
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: The Muppets came out in eleven, Fox News aired the

908
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: segment are liberals trying to brainwash your kids against capitalism?

909
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: Because the villain of the Muppets was a sleazy oil

910
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: executive creatively named text Richmond. Um. But uh yeah. One

911
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: of the hosts of on Fox questioned why the filmmakers

912
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: couldn't simply have made the villain be someone from the

913
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: Obama administration and I quote, I just wish liberals could

914
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: leave little kids alone. Why couldn't the muppets have the

915
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: evil person be the Obama administration? So the entire Obama administration.

916
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: Then in two thousand fifteen, Uh, this was a real

917
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: headline on Breitbart, Miss Piggy comes out as pro abortion.

918
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: This was because Miss Piggy was given an award for

919
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: some reason, and when asked if she was pro choice,

920
00:54:56,840 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: she responded, I am pro everything, which again not really

921
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: a program like it's yeah, it's uh, that's that's the

922
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: most both sides the ship, you could say, Miss Piggy, yea.

923
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: And with everybody, every but the one million moms. I

924
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 1: can'tnot believe they still exist. I didn't know that. Yeah,

925
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: they launched a boycott of the Puppets ABC show, which

926
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 1: was more adult oriented, But I mean, come on, um,

927
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: so it's double standard. Yeah, find a new angle, asshole. Uh,

928
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: well you know that Sesame Street. Obviously, we we did

929
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 1: an episode called Children's Programming about public education in Sesame

930
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: Street was super Jim Henson obviously influenced and it was

931
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 1: just a bunch of radical people getting together to try

932
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: to make uh television specifically for children of color to

933
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: see some reflection of their own experiences. And it was

934
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: really radical. And there were things called like hidden curriculum,

935
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: like there were black psychologists working on this show to

936
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: sort of just give like just a little bit back

937
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: to to two children who weren't white. And uh, it

938
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 1: was huge. It was outrageous. I mean there was the

939
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: pushback was enormous. It was banned in different states literally

940
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: because they said things like Mississippi is not ready for

941
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: this diverse of a cast. So it's like, I know

942
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: it's not the Muppets, but it's Muppets adjacent, so it's

943
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it's just uh there the Muppets. Jim

944
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: Henson was always I mean he's a hippie. You know,

945
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: he was always and you know he's always been kind

946
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: of an anti capitalist and anti whatever, pro everything, yeah,

947
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: not pro everything, Yeah, you don't say that. No. Uh.

948
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: And finally, uh, while we have you, Chelsea, I do

949
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about this latest video game Panic, which

950
00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: seems like it's a headline from ten years before this

951
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: show started. Um but an Illinois Democrat wants to fight

952
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: crime with a video game. Band which video game? You

953
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,399
Speaker 1: may ask Grand Theft Auto? Of course, Okay, the Grand

954
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: Theft Auto come back in some way like did it

955
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: become mobile? So it's just literally from however many years ago,

956
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: we had the same fucking Grand Theft Auto game over

957
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 1: like three consoles now PS three, PS four, and that's

958
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: just on PS five. I'm sick of ground. Definitely look

959
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: at that motherfucker anymore. I don't know. I've shot down

960
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: a lot of helicopters with a lot of launchers and

961
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: haven't done that yet. And you get on the train

962
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: and they can't catch you because you want to train

963
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: tracks and the AI and the cops is stupidest. They

964
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: never they can never touch you. Then you can like

965
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: borrow yourself in a store and wait in the five

966
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: star stitch. Yeah right, and then you're out. What's the

967
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: logic though, of why is this person in the year

968
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: of our Lord now thinking like we gotta get hold

969
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: on Have guys seen Grand Theft Auto. There's been a

970
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: rise in car theft and carjacking by the last year,

971
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: which uh literally nobody is surprised by because the economy

972
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: has completely shipped the bed, and also everybody's wearing masks around.

973
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: People are like, yeah, of course, it's like we're honestly

974
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: that we could have told you. Yeah. So this is

975
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: out of Illinois, where Colonel David Bird of the Illinois

976
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: State Police uh blamed it on there's a social media

977
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: aspect of it. Uh. He said, kids steel cars and

978
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: evade police in order to impress their friends. Presumably there

979
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: was like a single instance of that that made the

980
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: local news. Uh. And then one of their local politicians said,

981
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: this carjacking is something out of a video game, and

982
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: that was all he needed to try and propose this bill.

983
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: It would include a one dollar fine for those who

984
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: sell or rent these games, again proving that it was

985
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: designed in two thousand. You can rent these games. I'll

986
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: shut down this Blockbuster, I tell you. Yeah. The panic

987
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: is such a bipartisan event, you know, it's so and

988
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: it's so many times, like Democrats and Republicans, it will

989
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 1: be like the one thing that they unite over is

990
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 1: some kind of moral panic. And h it's like Columbine.

991
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: This happened during Columbine, all the shooting video games, and

992
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's happened every time, every time, every time,

993
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: anything bad happens, it's because it's the teens. One. You

994
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: can blame the teens, and then you can blame this

995
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: thing that actually has nothing to do with it, so

996
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: then you don't have to deal with systemic issues. You

997
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: can just point to this fucking dumbass thing. It's more

998
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: fun to blame, that's for sure. You know, it's like

999
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: so much more cinematic than than systemic poverty. Parents are

1000
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: different things. Parents who are a big part of your

1001
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: audience or voter base are already the inherently suspicious of

1002
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: their kids. So you know, I've met enough parents are like,

1003
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, not enough parents growing up who are like,

1004
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: just are dying for this sort of ship because exists.

1005
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: These moral panics are half born out of a you

1006
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: don't you actually don't want to address the real issue

1007
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: of a given thing, And the other one is you're

1008
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: so out of touch that you just connected the first

1009
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: dot and you're like, yeah, that's what it was. It's

1010
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: this game. So you're saying there's a lot of crimes

1011
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: of grand theft auto, that we're experiencing a lot of

1012
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: charges of grand theft auto. Yeah, oh my god, there's

1013
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: a game called grand theft auto. That's what we have

1014
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: to go after the last big grand theft auto release

1015
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: was Um, they did see an uptick uptick of sales

1016
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: during the pandemic, but they sold far more games in

1017
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 1: previous years in which there was not a surgeon cardjacking.

1018
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: So there is also a case that's being made that uh,

1019
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: this is predominantly like young people doing the car theft

1020
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:10,919
Speaker 1: and carjacking. Uh, except it's completely based on just once

1021
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: again proof proof that the people interpreting crime statistics shouldn't

1022
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: be the police because they do the the worst job

1023
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: of it. Um. So the cops painted this picture of

1024
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: roving juvenile gangs instagramming their joy rides. But of the

1025
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: one thousand, four hundred and sixteen carjackings the reported in Chicago,

1026
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 1: only one hundred eighty eight people were arrested. A hundred

1027
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: and six of them were kids. So if you're taking

1028
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: that as a overall sample of all d carjackings, uh,

1029
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: you would have some evidence. But it could be that

1030
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,680
Speaker 1: kids aren't as good at car theft and are more

1031
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: likely to post it on social media. Maybe uh this

1032
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: like a time Yes, yeah, they're just getting popped the

1033
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 1: first time, right, and then you learn after that one.

1034
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: But like the idea too of just trying to be

1035
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: like they're doing it to be on Instagram, like these

1036
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: are crimes of swag, not crimes of survival. Nobody steals

1037
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,479
Speaker 1: a fucking car for the thrill. I mean, I guess

1038
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: maybe they just watch New Jersey Drive or bad movie

1039
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: from the nineties or some ship. But like there's you

1040
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,479
Speaker 1: do it because you need to make money, and that's

1041
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: how you're going to make money, because you're For many people,

1042
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: you're only financial recourse is extra legal activity because there

1043
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: are no there's no way for you to survive anymore.

1044
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: But let's not talk about what the options are for

1045
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: these people. Let's say these teams are throwing on a

1046
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: filter to look like a little kitty cat and then

1047
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: taking your tesla. It's just it's out of control. To

1048
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: your point, was another thing besides Grand Theft auto sales

1049
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 1: UH that have gone up in the last year, which

1050
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 1: again Grand Theft auto sales picked up a little bit,

1051
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: not UH didn't sell as many copies as previous years. UH.

1052
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: On the other hand, unemployment in Illinois has gone up

1053
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: by a whopping six d seventy UH and Illinois's unemployment

1054
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: offices have been closed for the entire year, meaning people

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Speaker 1: who lack access to online services or running into technical

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Speaker 1: problems are pretty much fucked. Um. So yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: all to avoid a real fucking problem. And I mean

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Speaker 1: the racial dynamics aside of this story, Like it's it's

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Speaker 1: so simple. I mean, like you, you don't need to

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Speaker 1: be a fucking detective to be like, wait, people usually

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Speaker 1: people steal because you don't have. Oh, there's an uptake

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Speaker 1: uptick in people who don't have That's probably what is.

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Speaker 1: And also grand theft auto. Trust me, the people who

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Speaker 1: bought that it's motherfucker's like me who got suckered into

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Speaker 1: buying it for the fucking third time. It's not new

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Speaker 1: people of getting into grant that auto. It's like, funk,

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Speaker 1: I don't have it on this console. I guess I

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Speaker 1: gotta give rock Star more fucking money for this game.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean. I would love to see the statistic

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Speaker 1: on the number of newcomers to g T A five

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Speaker 1: uh in those numbers, but that's more of a gamer

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Speaker 1: statistic I would like to see. Yeah, and this is

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened with UH with as I mentioned, like

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Speaker 1: Columbine and in the school shootings into this last decade

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Speaker 1: is the exact same thing. It was the shooting video games,

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Speaker 1: and that was you know, so we didn't have to

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Speaker 1: deal with guns, and that was Democrats and Republicans. It's

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Speaker 1: just this way to have a flashy, you know, sleight

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Speaker 1: of hand. I think of it as a sleight of hand.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how intentional it is or how

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Speaker 1: much these people are just you know, fucking stupid and

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Speaker 1: totally out of touch, like you said, and how much

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Speaker 1: of it could be not I don't want to say

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Speaker 1: a conspiracy, but you know, I think there's something to that.

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Speaker 1: And especially when you're trying to get reelected, your platform

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Speaker 1: is going to be a lot more flashy and interesting

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Speaker 1: to people if the story is you know, the teens

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Speaker 1: aren't all right, versus we have massive unemployment and poverty.

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Speaker 1: It's not I'm surprised Republicans didn't blame the uprisings on

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Speaker 1: NBA two K like that by that logic talking about

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Speaker 1: like look at the problem also at like you know,

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Speaker 1: it's tops we have too many these assholes. We're not

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Speaker 1: there to actually change outcomes for people. They're just there

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Speaker 1: to win office and stay in office and that's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, this is an example of somebody

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Speaker 1: being bad at uh showing the like politically, you know,

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Speaker 1: shrewd and calculating thing. Uh. And but I think there's

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Speaker 1: plenty of examples that we're not talking about because they

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily cross our radar and such a don't like

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Speaker 1: splat against our radar the way this one would. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's this seems to be a

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Speaker 1: good uh indicator of what the underlying logic is in

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Speaker 1: in Congress. Definitely, Chelsea. It has been such a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you as always being on. Thank you guys. It's

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Speaker 1: so much fun. Where can people find you and follow you? Well,

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Speaker 1: you can go and listen to our show American Hysteria

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Speaker 1: on pretty much any podcast app, or you can follow

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Speaker 1: us at a mayor Hysteria on Twitter or American Hysteria

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Speaker 1: Podcast on Instagram. And is there a tweet or some

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Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of buried the lead, but I

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Speaker 1: think just for me it was Oreos trands people exist.

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Speaker 1: I just I just want to say, think, when was

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Speaker 1: that so brave? UM? Got a few days ago, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It was like during the potato folks coming

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Speaker 1: out as as trans um. But that's that's just been

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Speaker 1: a memorable, memorable one for me. M Yeah, I remember that.

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Speaker 1: I think that was right after their tweet about Fred

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Speaker 1: Hampton Jr. Yeah exactly. Yeah, they're like, and you imagine though,

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Speaker 1: why is it that when they connect poor people of

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Speaker 1: color and poor white people, think outcomes change for these

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Speaker 1: civil rights leaders anyway? Get the new double stuffed orioles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's some people do not want anybody to know,

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Speaker 1: which is odd because like you could just be like, hi,

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Speaker 1: everything the people that got never every The way the

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Speaker 1: way we win is together our new our new rainbow

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Speaker 1: coalition OREO where you open it up and it's a rainbow.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, just it's coming. Don't tell them the words. Miles,

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: Oh Man Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Gray also other podcast

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Speaker 1: for twey day fiance we were chatting ninety day. Uh

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Speaker 1: tweet I like from Reductress because it's just so absurd,

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Speaker 1: but somehow, like I it's resonating with me. Uh. It's

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Speaker 1: a photo of like to two people talking. One person

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Speaker 1: is just like sort of clearly listening to the other speak,

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Speaker 1: but was sort of like a like vacant eyes, and

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Speaker 1: the text reads how to pretend you were listening by answering,

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Speaker 1: hey Marca Reina in a neutral tone, Hey Marcarina, Hey

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Speaker 1: can you believe that ship? Jack? Hey Macarina? Okay, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I knew you, I knew you're on my side. Hey Macarana,

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey Macarina, I want I once I was

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Speaker 1: caught by my friends way too late after that song

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Speaker 1: was no longer cool, just very drunk on a dance

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Speaker 1: floor doing the macarino Um. Was not my proudest moment.

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Speaker 1: Hey Macarina, Hey Macarina. Indeed, Marcarina, you can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien a couple of tweets

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Speaker 1: I've been enjoying. Aaron Chack tweeted, yeah, the moon is

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Speaker 1: full full of shit. Um, it was a very nice,

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Speaker 1: full moment. Over the weekend, shout out to the moviment um,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Kin tweeted it would be crazy if every

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Speaker 1: oncoming headlight you saw in the freeway was its own

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Speaker 1: person with their own life. But thank god that's not

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Speaker 1: the case. Uh. Find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

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Speaker 1: fan page and a website, Daily zeitgeist dot com, where

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Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we recommend you check out. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song are people checking out today? Oh, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: check out Look. You need some you need some good drumming.

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Speaker 1: You want some naia being the drumming. Uh, if you

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Speaker 1: really funk with the reggae sounds, get into that. But

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Speaker 1: this track is called Lamb's Bread Collie and it's Lamb's

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Speaker 1: l A MBS bread v r e A d Collie

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Speaker 1: c L l I E like colleague pug uh and

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Speaker 1: the the artist is Cedric I'm Brooks and the Light

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Speaker 1: of Saba and it's just like look I was that

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Speaker 1: was saying off, Mike. I got some musical equipment. I've

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Speaker 1: been going through some old records and things and you

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Speaker 1: don't want to sample. I was really looking at This

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Speaker 1: album is great because it's got a lot of deep

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Speaker 1: grooves in it um. But this is for anybody who

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Speaker 1: just you know, needs a little heavy, heavy sound to

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Speaker 1: start your week. This will help you, but also you know,

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Speaker 1: very enlightened. All right. Well, The Daily Ze Guy's a

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Speaker 1: listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna do it for

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Speaker 1: this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell you

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Speaker 1: what's trending and we'll talk to you all then. Bye bye,