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Speaker 2: This week on Prime Cuts, Chad Millman, Sharper Square, John

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Speaker 2: Middelkoff on the Buffalo Bills, can Josh Allen carry them

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Speaker 2: into the playoffs? And my top takes of the week. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 2: welcome in. You know, I was thinking about the Draymond

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Speaker 2: good shape for my age, in my fifties, and there

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Speaker 2: are some things I wish I could do over in

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Speaker 2: my life. But I don't have the you know, the relentless,

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Speaker 2: boundless energy I did when I was twenty four years old,

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Speaker 2: where I could go play basketball, pick up basketball, rip

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Speaker 2: my ankle up, and then two days later be out

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Speaker 2: playing again, have a ski accident. Next day, I'm on

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Speaker 2: the slopes. Things take longer to heal. You get into

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Speaker 2: your fifties and shit breaks right. But I think the

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Speaker 2: advantage to having perspective is I just don't get worked

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Speaker 2: up very much. And because I've seen everything seven times,

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Speaker 2: like when Elon Musk took over X and Twitter now

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Speaker 2: X and people freaked out. Take a deep breath. It's

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Speaker 2: going to take six to nine months to figure it out.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the user experience is quite as good

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Speaker 2: as it was, but I filter out what I don't want.

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Speaker 2: It's not the end of the world. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to rush to threads and protest. That seems so juvenile

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Speaker 2: and so childish to me. Take a deep breath. If

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Speaker 2: you're spending that much time on X, probably need to

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Speaker 2: get a life anyway. If you have strong, defiant opinions

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Speaker 2: about a social media app, maybe get off the social

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Speaker 2: media app. I see it all the time with President Biden. Oh,

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Speaker 2: he's the worst, the best, He's neither. He's not the

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Speaker 2: best president, he's not the worst. On the stock market's

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Speaker 2: over thirty seven thousand, right, inflation down, gas prices down

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Speaker 2: in most of the country, unemployments under four percent. There's

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Speaker 2: a lot of manufacturing jobs that have bounced back. We're

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Speaker 2: through COVID. I don't think Biden's the best president. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's the worst. Age is a concern again.

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Speaker 2: I just I'm not outraged by the stuff I read.

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Speaker 2: You know, when bud Light put somebody on the can,

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Speaker 2: takeaway was, well, I don't think coming off real men

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Speaker 2: of genius to that was the smartest marketing plan. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't lose sleep over it because I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: care who's on a can of beer. And I'm married

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Speaker 2: with kids, and you know, pretty strong, thriving business here

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Speaker 2: at the volume, and I work on TV and radio.

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Speaker 2: I think people who overreact to stuff are bored or

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Speaker 2: they need attention, and there are things to get worked

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Speaker 2: up about. We know that, but I just didn't happen

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Speaker 2: to me very often. When I saw the Draymond Green

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Speaker 2: flailing punch, my takeaway was, go YouTube Bill Lamber. You

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Speaker 2: can't believe he was tackling people during the finals, not

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Speaker 2: Tuesday games, Wednesday games. Dennis Rodman YouTube him, but literally

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Speaker 2: didn't show up to playoff games, went to Vegas to

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Speaker 2: hang out. Michael Jordan had to fly out there and

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Speaker 2: get him. Is that? I remember the nineteen seventies NBA fights,

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Speaker 2: empty arenas, the horrible ownership groups from Donald Sterling to

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Speaker 2: Ted Stepien. I don't like what Draymond Green did, and

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Speaker 2: he deserved to be suspended indefinitely. Is fine, He'll get

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Speaker 2: help deal with some counseling. His agent, Rich Paul and

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Speaker 2: Clutch Sports will help him navigate that. But I know Draymond.

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Speaker 2: He's a terrific employee. He's a hard worker, he's an

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Speaker 2: excellent podcaster. He's thoughtful and very, very reflective, and I've

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Speaker 2: the teammate. So it's not that I'm supporting Draymond just

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Speaker 2: But it's just perspective. You know, he's not let's take

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Speaker 2: He's not a shady politician. He's not selling weapons to

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Speaker 2: it's really hard. It's hard to do it. Sounds like

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Speaker 2: in football, not all positions are same, not all positions

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Speaker 2: When Shohei Otani signed and he deferred ninety percent of

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Speaker 2: so he can play with better players. And to manipulate

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Speaker 2: the California tax system, people all over California do that.

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Speaker 2: live some of the time in California. Nobody had a

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Speaker 2: problem with the Yankees dominating the Hot Stove League twenty

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Speaker 2: on every other regional or local cable network, and the

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Speaker 2: Yankees bought whoever they wanted to. Nobody was outraged by that.

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Speaker 2: I think my content is smart enough and thoughtful enough

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Speaker 2: I do not pedal outrage. I'm just not upset. Very often.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to. I'm not selling that now. For

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Speaker 2: some people, their internet business is their business. Again. I

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Speaker 2: pedal anything for growth. Everything's growing organically. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: a lot of turbulence. There's a lot of There's been

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Speaker 2: a lot of great, great moments in Draymond's career. There's

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Speaker 2: been some bumpy ones and this is a bumpy one.

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Speaker 2: But I want to talk about Tommy DeVito. So you know,

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Speaker 2: great high school player from the area, little college star, right,

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito does not succeed if he has a defensive coach. Okay,

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Speaker 2: now Seahawks with a backup quarterback, Steelers with a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 2: the Jets with backup quarterbacks. A complete s show defensive coaches.

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Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco, the Giants with Tommy DeVito, all offensive

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Speaker 2: do not think defensive coaches are equipped to handle it.

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Speaker 2: It is not a coincidence that eleven of the fourteen

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Speaker 2: It is also not a coincidence that the three most

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Speaker 2: not a coincidence. Tommy DeVito, you give him, Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at the Steelers. They have Mitched trib

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Speaker 2: It's not luck, it's not What Brian Dabole is doing

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Speaker 2: that's got some mobility. De Vito's not real big, doesn't

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito is not talented enough to move that offense

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen, Sean McDermott, defensive coach. All right, enough, nice

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Speaker 2: win for the Giants. I thought that game. You know,

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Speaker 2: But when you go into this game tonight and I'm thinking, oh,

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Speaker 2: I was watching the Cowboys and listen, they've played the

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Speaker 3: has coached this team through a myriad of injuries and

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Speaker 3: kept them in the hunt for the title in their division,

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Speaker 3: even though they are basically down to four to fifth

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Speaker 3: six stringers on their interior offensive line. The Bears, meanwhile,

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Speaker 3: since Week nine EPA per play expected points allowed per play,

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Speaker 3: they're sixth in the league. The Browns twenty fifth in

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Speaker 3: the league. Like, this is a defense in the Browns

431
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Speaker 3: that is getting consistently worse, and a defense in the

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Speaker 3: Bears that is getting consistently better since they got Montes sweat,

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Speaker 3: They're running defense, their rushing defense consistently better now becoming

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Speaker 3: a dominant force for them, and that might be the

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Speaker 3: only strength the Browns had. I am not buying Joe

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Speaker 3: Flacco and the glorious story that happened last week against

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars. That was a fluke. That is not going

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Speaker 3: to happen again. That was why you fade the Browns

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Speaker 3: this week. And also Justin Fields, I'll tell you this

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Speaker 3: right now, this is going to be the most fascinating

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Speaker 3: four weeks in a generation for the Chicago Bears or

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Speaker 3: Chicago Bears fans. Justin Fields is playing for a new

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Speaker 3: contract in Chicago, a new coach in Chicago, if that

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Speaker 3: is what happens next year. He is playing for the

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Speaker 3: next coach he plays for, if the Bears decide to

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Speaker 3: trade him, whatever the case is, Justin Fields is playing

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Speaker 3: for something over the next four weeks. And since the buy,

448
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: he has been making better decisions, faster decisions, and showing

449
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Speaker 3: he knows how to play the quarterback much much better

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Speaker 3: than we thought he did prior to his injury.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get serious. Here are the picks. I

452
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Speaker 2: really like my two favorite.

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Speaker 3: You know, I appreciate you throwing that one out there.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know where you were going.

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Speaker 2: This is not the best line, but I think my

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Speaker 2: favorite pick of the week was Lions minus four. It's

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Speaker 2: now four and a half. I don't love that, but

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Speaker 2: I think this is a tough spot for Denver. Lions

459
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Speaker 2: are a good team. People sell them because they played

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Speaker 2: poorly outdoors. One of my favorite picks of the week

461
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Speaker 2: last week was Chicago get him back indoors off a

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Speaker 2: humiliating loss we saw a couple of weeks ago. Them

463
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Speaker 2: jumped out to a huge lead on the Saints. They're

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Speaker 2: more than capable. Broncos have had a series of games

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Speaker 2: and travel. I think it's pretty tough. I think this

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Speaker 2: just feels like a spot. You know that number. I

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Speaker 2: love four fours my favorite number. I see it. I

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Speaker 2: take the favorites. I like four better than minus four

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Speaker 2: and a half. I think the Lions is a side

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Speaker 2: sharper square.

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Speaker 3: So it was decided four, and then it went up

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Speaker 3: to four and a half, and then it went up

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Speaker 3: to five, and the wise guy's bought a little bit, a

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Speaker 3: little bit back. I'm with you, the Lions are the

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Speaker 3: right side here, right. So the Lions. They're four and

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Speaker 3: two the past six games. It's not like they're a

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Speaker 3: terrible team. They've had a couple bad losses that people

478
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Speaker 3: are remembering. One of them Green Bay, one of them

479
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Speaker 3: to Chicago. But look in those two losses, six turnovers

480
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Speaker 3: two of ten on fourth downs in their two losses.

481
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Speaker 3: Like Dan Campbell likes to go for it. When it works,

482
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Speaker 3: we think he's a genius. When it doesn't work, it

483
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Speaker 3: puts them in more difficult positions. We saw it against

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Speaker 3: the Bears last week. One thing I think, one thing

485
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Speaker 3: I think is really important for them, Frank Ragnow their

486
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Speaker 3: center is expected to be back. I do think that's

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Speaker 3: incredibly important for their rushing game with Jamier Gibb David Montgomery.

488
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Speaker 3: When they are both playing well and they can provide

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Speaker 3: sort of the impetus for that offense to give Jared

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Speaker 3: Goff more opportunities, then I think they're a much better

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Speaker 3: team than the Broncos. And don't forget the Broncos. Look,

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Speaker 3: they are living on fourth down luck. They are living

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Speaker 3: on turnovers plus fifteen in the turnover margin during their

494
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Speaker 3: sort of winning streak the past few weeks. Don't forget

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff, most profitable quarterback in a dome the past

496
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Speaker 3: twenty years. I am not ready to sell this Detroit

497
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Speaker 3: Lions team, and I love the Broncos. I want to

498
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Speaker 3: cash a Broncos over eight and a half season wins ticket,

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Speaker 3: But I don't think this is the red spot for them.

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Speaker 3: Neither do the Wise guys.

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Speaker 2: Second favorite bet Bills minus two at home against the Cowboys,

502
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Speaker 2: off a big division rivalry blowout win, Buffalo playing for

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Speaker 2: their playoff lives. You know, we can say what we

504
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Speaker 2: want about Buffalo. They're in close games, blowing people out

505
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Speaker 2: like three years ago where they were kind of the

506
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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson of the league like it was a first

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Speaker 2: round knockout, or they lose late. Now they're actually in

508
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Speaker 2: a lot of close games. I think this is still

509
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Speaker 2: a team that will make a dent in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I think this home spot get the Cowboys in chilli

511
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Speaker 2: Weather off their spot a little out of rhythm, Sharper

512
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Speaker 2: square like the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Totally sharp. This is the side a lot of inflation

514
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Speaker 3: on the Cowboys. There couldn't be a higher price on

515
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Speaker 3: betting on the Cowboys right now, and if you look

516
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Speaker 3: at Josh Allen. Look, he's got the interception streak right,

517
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Speaker 3: nine straight games with an interception. But he's carrying this

518
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Speaker 3: team and they're starting to play a little bit better.

519
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Speaker 3: Remember Rasille Douglas, who they traded for at the trade deadline,

520
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 3: was replacing Tredavius White. He's a fourth rated best cornerback

521
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Speaker 3: according to Pro Football Focus. And also, don't forget they

522
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Speaker 3: had to replace Matt Mlano, who is their best defensive player.

523
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: It takes time for the backups to come in, get

524
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Speaker 3: used to the scheme, get used to playing every down,

525
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Speaker 3: get used to playing with their other teammates. This defense.

526
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Speaker 3: While they gave up thirty seven points to the Eagles,

527
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Speaker 3: they are improving. I think they're becoming a little bit

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Speaker 3: more well rounded. I agree with you, it's going to

529
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Speaker 3: be fascinating the next four weeks. They got the Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: they got the Chargers, They're going to end the season

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Speaker 3: with the Dolphins. Right now, the Buffalo Bills plus depending

532
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Speaker 3: on where you look, three hundred to win the AFC East,

533
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Speaker 3: Josh Allen twenty to one to win MVP. I know

534
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 3: everybody's saying Dak Prescott has this MVP thing locked up.

535
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Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if Josh Allen and the

536
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Speaker 3: Bills run the table and they make the playoffs and

537
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Speaker 3: he wins the AFC East. He'll end the year with

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Speaker 3: a freak load of touchdowns, possibly leave the league in

539
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Speaker 3: touchdown passes, leave the league in total touchdowns. He might

540
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Speaker 3: be a nice, little tasty long shot bet right now

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Speaker 3: for MVP.

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Speaker 2: One of the under I like Commanders plus six and

543
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Speaker 2: a half at the Rams. I think that game against

544
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore winner lose was a lot emotionally. It was one

545
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Speaker 2: of the great games of the year. Rams travel East.

546
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Speaker 2: They lose in overtime. It just I think it took

547
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Speaker 2: a little chip out of them. I think they win

548
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: the game. I get the Commanders off a bye healthy again.

549
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Speaker 2: I think it's always an advantage when you have a

550
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Speaker 2: buy compared to a team coming off a wildly emotional win.

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Speaker 2: I think the Rams can win out, and I think

552
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Speaker 2: they will. I think they're a really well coached team,

553
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: but nobody that offense is still kind of dinged up.

554
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Speaker 2: I mean they're really doing it off great coaching scheme

555
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: and Cooper cups not fully healthy. Stafford show signs that

556
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Speaker 2: occasionally he's grabbing something every time off the field, Tyler

557
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: Higbee's not healthy. So I like the Rams to win,

558
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Speaker 2: but six and a half is way too many points

559
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: for me. Sharper square, So.

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Speaker 3: You're sharp right now. I will tell you. I'm on

561
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Speaker 3: the Rams, and I don't really understand why the Wise

562
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Speaker 3: guys like the Commanders they do. They totally do. You

563
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 3: are completely, one hundred percent like Sam Howell has had

564
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Speaker 3: a great year. I think that the Wise guys are

565
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: still looking at Sam Howell from the first four to

566
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Speaker 3: six weeks of the year and giving him a lot

567
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Speaker 3: of credit and thinking, Okay, this is number is too big.

568
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Speaker 3: They're off the by like you just said. I look

569
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Speaker 3: at this though, and I tell you this Commander's defense

570
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Speaker 3: is truly terrible, and they are. They are really terrible.

571
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Speaker 3: And like they had what I call what we call

572
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Speaker 3: like the dead cat bounce. Right. So in finance, when

573
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Speaker 3: like a stock is doing terribly and all of a

574
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Speaker 3: sudden it has a nice little blip, like a moment

575
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: of clarity, right, that's the dead cat bounce. Because it's

576
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: really kind of a crappy stock. This is a crappy

577
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Speaker 3: team that after they traded away basically their entire defense

578
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Speaker 3: and Chase Young and Montes sweat. They went on the road,

579
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Speaker 3: they beat the Patriots. Everyone's like, oh, maybe this team

580
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Speaker 3: has a little more moxy than we thought. They've basically

581
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Speaker 3: been blown out in every game since then, right, and so,

582
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Speaker 3: including at home by the Dolphins. They got blown out

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Speaker 3: by the Cowboys. They have looked bad. They got beat

584
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Speaker 3: by the Giants, right, and this is when like before

585
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: Tommy DeVito and like the magic of being Italian in

586
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Speaker 3: North Jersey. So it's a bad team and their defense

587
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 3: is the worst in the league at giving up passes

588
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 3: of twenty yards or more. Cooper Cup I think he's

589
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: playing amazing right now. What he did against the Ravens

590
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 3: was awesome. Pooka Nakua has been final and making fantastic catches.

591
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: I don't know that anyone in Washington can guard them.

592
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Speaker 3: And by the way, Karen Williams has been amazing since

593
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Speaker 3: he came back from his injury.

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Speaker 2: Oh fantastic.

595
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Speaker 3: Like, I think the Russian game can dominate against the Commander.

596
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Speaker 3: So you are one hundred percent on the right side.

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Speaker 3: I'm making an executive decision. I'm with the Rams. I

598
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Speaker 3: don't care what the wise guys say.

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Speaker 2: Another underdog guy like Seahawks plus four Monday Night Football

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Speaker 2: against Philadelphia. The move line has moved up all olids

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Speaker 2: provided by DraftKings. They played a very spunky game against

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Speaker 2: San Francisco and Dallas. These a good teams. They played

603
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Speaker 2: them tight. And my takeaway here is we've watched on

604
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Speaker 2: Monday Night football a very average Giants team win, Cincinnati

605
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Speaker 2: beat Jacksonville. Monday Night Football is one of the last

606
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: places home field is still three points. And I think

607
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Speaker 2: Seattle's a desperate team that has actually lost but played

608
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Speaker 2: pretty darn good in the last couple of weeks. And

609
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Speaker 2: Philadelphia is reeling defensively, They're not running Jalen Hurts as much.

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Speaker 2: It's an offense that hasn't solved their issues. And we've

611
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Speaker 2: watched three or four games in a row. They have

612
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Speaker 2: not had a great offensive game for four quarters this season.

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Speaker 2: Seattle's tough. Wendy Rainey, I'm gonna take the Hawks plus four.

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Speaker 2: Sharper square, Yeah, sharp.

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Speaker 3: You know it's interesting. Before we came on the air,

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Speaker 3: you and I talked about how this has been a

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Speaker 3: sort of dominant season for the public, and when you're

618
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Speaker 3: betting on the public, you're normally betting on the favorites.

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Speaker 3: The one area where that doesn't apply is primetime games.

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Speaker 3: Primetime games, it has still been the right side to

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Speaker 3: fade the public bet with the Sharps, bet on the underdogs.

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Speaker 3: So yes, the Seattle Seahawks at plus four will be

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Speaker 3: the side that you'll find the wise guys on as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we do this every week where I want you

625
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Speaker 2: to talk me into a game that I have strong

626
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Speaker 2: feelings with. But I have been watching Sharps and I

627
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Speaker 2: don't think they like it. I actually think people shouldn't

628
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Speaker 2: sell any of their stock of Green Bay. I really

629
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Speaker 2: like them. I think their receivers are twitchy. I think

630
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Speaker 2: Lafleur now runs the team. It's a really fun team.

631
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Speaker 2: It feels like a Matt Lafleur offense. I think Jordan

632
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: Love has made big strides in that game against the Giants.

633
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: He had a couple of brilliant passes in the end zone.

634
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Speaker 2: One got knocked down, one was just a foot the

635
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: receiver couldn't get his foot down before they did eventually score.

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Speaker 2: I think they're playing with confidence. I think they're young,

637
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: they'll bounce back. They don't know what they don't know,

638
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 2: and it was a Monday night football game where they

639
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: went in off beating the Chiefs, so they kind of

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Speaker 2: got into their fields a little bit. They went it

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Speaker 2: as a favorite, and it's like, no, no, no, no, that's

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Speaker 2: not what you are. Now they come home, I like

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Speaker 2: a minus three. Talk me into it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know that I should have to work

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Speaker 3: that hard to talk you into it. It's it's a

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Speaker 3: really complicated matchup for the professionals. They like the Bucks

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Speaker 3: at plus three and a half. At plus three, I

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Speaker 3: mean at minus three you kind of lean Packers or

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Speaker 3: nothing at all. You need the hook if you're going

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Speaker 3: to be interested in the Bucks, and if the hook

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Speaker 3: is there, you don't want to bet the Packers. I

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00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: think there's still so much for Jordan Love to learn.

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Speaker 3: And you're right about the Giants last week. That was

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00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: the smash spot. That was the easiest money that we

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Speaker 3: have bet all season. Never in doubt, never a concern

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Speaker 3: like that was just you know, Jordan Love going on

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Speaker 3: the road is nearly a touchdown favorite in prime time.

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00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 3: You're not betting on that at this point in his career.

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Speaker 3: Going home. I agree with you. This has been a

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Speaker 3: much better coach team. The second half of the year,

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Speaker 3: he has looked much better. The challenge is that Baker

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Speaker 3: Mayfield all season long has been keeping his team in games.

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Speaker 3: He's playing terribly in moments of every game and keeping

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Speaker 3: them in games and keeping the cover alive in every

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Speaker 3: single game. It happened against the Eagles earlier in the year,

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Speaker 3: and then we saw it again with the Falcons. He

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00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: had played horrible and in that final drive, I think

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Speaker 3: he had five incompletions. It was like five incompletions in

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Speaker 3: a few runs, and then all of a sudden, he

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Speaker 3: hits Chris Godwin with a perfect tear drop pass on

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Speaker 3: the sideline that gets them close to the end zone,

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Speaker 3: and then he makes a perfect throw into the end

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Speaker 3: zone to win that game. The beauty of Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 3: is that he's always been a guy who just plays

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Speaker 3: with a massive amount of courage and does not care

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Speaker 3: about what happened before. And I feel like that's when

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Speaker 3: the Bucks have been doing all season long. So to me,

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Speaker 3: it's scary to bet against them when they're not playing

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Speaker 3: a really, really good team that is just so much

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Speaker 3: better than them, And I don't think the Packers are

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Speaker 3: that much better than them.

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Speaker 2: Sharper Squire Chad Milman. Sorry for my long open but

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Speaker 2: I just feel, I feel.

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Speaker 3: You'll never have to apologize to me for your rants.

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Speaker 3: I never know where they're going to go. I always

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Speaker 3: find them entertaining. I know you thought of them deeply.

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Speaker 3: I know you've got notes on your lead eagle pad.

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Speaker 3: I know there's like a tree that you're looking at

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Speaker 3: and this is just a branch and yep, I'm happy

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Speaker 3: to take a ride with you, brother.

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Speaker 2: Good see Anyboddy go bears. The volume