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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio studios. Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and

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Speaker 1: Jared Smith.

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Welcome in Happy Saturday to you.

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Speaker 4: Hope all is well as we are in Master's mode

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Speaker 4: over here. Huh, got golf going on. Rory McElroy is

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Speaker 4: going crazy, He's going ballistic. Got a six shot lead.

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Speaker 4: It's a Master's record for the biggest lead after thirty

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Speaker 4: six holes. So shout out to Rory as he is

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Speaker 4: doing work right here. Good morning, Jared, Good morning Rich.

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Speaker 4: Everything good with you, guys.

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Speaker 5: Morning gentlemen. Shortly Rich there we got Rich.

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Speaker 6: Oh, no, Rich, I'm feeling rich because I got it.

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Speaker 6: So I got a bed in yesterday. Bet MGM's giving

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Speaker 6: you a twenty five percent boost on all Masters bets

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Speaker 6: every day of the tournament. So I was waiting for

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Speaker 6: my moment yesterday. I forgot on Thursday. I was doing

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Speaker 6: other stuff. So I was watching yesterday and I had

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Speaker 6: Rory on and I was like, man, he really looks

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Speaker 6: pretty good today. And so he kind of slipped up

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Speaker 6: a little bit early on in his round and the

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Speaker 6: odds went to like plus two hundred for him to win,

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, well, he's still got the lead, he's

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Speaker 6: still looking pretty good, and I fired away. I got

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Speaker 6: it up from two to one to plus two fifty.

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Speaker 5: I want to say.

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Speaker 6: It was like around the fifth or sixth hole, somewhere

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Speaker 6: right around the turn, and then he, as you said,

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Speaker 6: went ballistic. And now the odds are minus two fifty

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Speaker 6: for him to win the tournament.

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Speaker 5: So I'm feeling great.

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Speaker 6: I'm sitting on a nice Rory ticket and I'm probably

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Speaker 6: gonna fire. I'll have some picks for the Masters. I

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Speaker 6: was going through it this morning, some of the props,

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Speaker 6: some of the matchups. I mean, it's really I don't

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Speaker 6: bet a ton of golf anymore. I used to bet

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Speaker 6: golf like every week. I don't bet it a ton anymore.

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Speaker 5: But this is the one week where I really get

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Speaker 5: I get involved this week for sure.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hey, I get it.

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Speaker 4: And man, Rory, he just looks comfortable right, unbelievable. If

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Speaker 4: you look at the last decade plus, right when he's

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Speaker 4: trying to win the Masters, he's trying to complete the

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Speaker 4: career Grand Slam, and he's just gripping, you know, he's

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Speaker 4: just Yeah, it looked like he was gonna slip away.

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Speaker 3: Last year.

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Speaker 4: It looked like he was gonna, you know, wet himself basically,

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Speaker 4: and he got to the playoff and then he rallied

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Speaker 4: and he won it.

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Speaker 3: And now this year he.

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Speaker 4: Just looks comfortable, He looks confident, and he birdied six

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Speaker 4: of the final seven holes. You love a six to seven?

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Speaker 4: Reference our guy, Yeah, there you go, loves a good

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Speaker 5: I don't have any kid.

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Speaker 2: If I had him, they'd be going crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was on fire man.

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Speaker 4: And that's the interesting thing to me, Jared, is it's

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Speaker 4: a lot like team sports in a way.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: You'll see a football team, a basketball team get up

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Speaker 4: big and then all of a sudden they don't stay

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Speaker 3: Lead starts to go away, go away, go away.

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Speaker 4: And so I want to see Rory can he maintain

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Speaker 4: his aggressiveness today? Now I would expect the course to

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Speaker 4: bit more firm and Sunday that's when they're like, all right,

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Speaker 4: let's get some crazy scores going on, let's get some drama.

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Speaker 4: But I would expect it to be challenging today, So

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Speaker 4: it might be more of a survive in advanced type

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Speaker 4: I want to see if he maintains his aggressiveness or

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Speaker 4: Right Like, I think he's got to maintain his aggressiveness

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Speaker 4: and he should win this thing as long as he does.

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Speaker 2: That, I agreed.

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Speaker 6: I mean the minus two fifty, I think those odds

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Speaker 6: got him at about a sixty five percent chance to win.

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Speaker 6: So again, I don't think you're getting a ton of

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Speaker 6: me is it confirmed. So I've been playing golf for

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Speaker 6: full disclosure, Like, golf's been a part of my life

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Speaker 6: since I was ten years old.

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Speaker 3: My grand but both my grandparents played.

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Speaker 6: My grandfather on my mom's side was like a scratch golfer,

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Speaker 6: and so I was taught very young to play.

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Speaker 5: I love the game.

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Speaker 6: I grew up in Florida and it's something that's been

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Speaker 6: you know, I was ten years old ninety six when

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Speaker 6: And the one thing that I noticed about Rory this

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Speaker 6: it's such a mental sport because you don't have have

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Speaker 5: It's just you out there.

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Speaker 6: So the pressure being off of Rory having won last

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Speaker 5: You could just tell like he's just kind of floating

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Speaker 6: And the thing that stood out to me too when

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Speaker 6: There's one more I'm forgetting, And he said, I just

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Speaker 6: don't like those tournaments, Like it's just it's not something

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Speaker 6: Rory's really the guy now and he's kind of carrying.

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Speaker 5: The torch of golf.

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Speaker 6: And if he goes back to back, I mean only

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's weird too, because, man, you go back

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Speaker 4: so from a betting standpoint, heading into this year's Masters,

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Speaker 4: so let's not bet Rory McElroy. And now all of

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Speaker 4: else to mention, how about Bryson to Shambo, our guy

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Speaker 4: of Rory in this year's Masters right. As comfortable as

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Speaker 4: Rory has looked, as confident as he's looked, the Shambo

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Speaker 3: And it's funny.

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Speaker 4: I saw an old quote from Gary Player describing the Masters,

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Speaker 4: That's what makes it so great talking about the Masters.

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Speaker 4: That's what the Shambo was like. Every shot was within

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Speaker 4: not the way that Deshamba wanted it to go. And

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Speaker 4: Where are the live guys? Nowhere to be found, Milk

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they've struggled this week.

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Speaker 6: So Brett, this isn't a course that's best suited for Bryson.

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Speaker 5: It just isn't. It's not a Bomber's course. It's a

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Speaker 6: And again, there were ninety one players in the field

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Speaker 6: He wasn't great with his irons Tita Green who's seventieth

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Speaker 5: Playing well period. But also this course.

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Speaker 6: Is not suited for his game. So I don't know

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Speaker 6: really don't. I think he has the capabilities of winning

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's he's come close. You know, he's well before.

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Speaker 4: But I hear you, I totally hear you. It's not

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Speaker 4: you know, it'd be like I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 4: need to compare everything to football, but I will.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we can.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be upset about that.

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Speaker 6: I feel like you can.

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Speaker 4: It'd be like a team that throws it all over

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Speaker 4: seattle and we right, and it's just raining and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: this isn't great, but you have one, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: well you can't just like take advantage of his his

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Speaker 3: But yeah, he's out.

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Speaker 6: Man decent putter too, and he hasn't put it well

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you someone who can't put yesterday was Jordan Speeth.

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Speaker 4: Jordan's Speeds could not buy one and he was he

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Speaker 4: was money except for putting. Like it's got to be

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Speaker 6: I just I think he's got that he's got that

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Speaker 5: I'll give it to you later.

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Speaker 5: He's done everything else well except putt. This week.

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Speaker 2: That's that's exactly correct.

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Speaker 8: I've been I've been in the lab, as I like

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Speaker 8: We're trying to do the Syracuse Weave three and we

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Speaker 8: what these kids are getting this morning. There's no doubt

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Speaker 8: you're not kidding. This whole week it has been a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go.

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Speaker 4: We'll get back to the masters here, but let's get

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Speaker 4: is Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel and the athletic senior

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Speaker 4: you know, tabloid I don't know, insights going on page

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Speaker 3: Now, both of these people.

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Speaker 3: A little cheating.

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Speaker 4: Now, Mike Vrabel he in a statement to page six says,

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Speaker 4: otherwise is laughable. This doesn't deserve any further response. Diana Russini.

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Speaker 4: Her comment is the photos don't represent the group of

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Speaker 3: No, that's exactly what happened. It didn't appear that's what

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Speaker 4: So Yeah, this is just uh, this is classic misdirection.

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Speaker 4: This is don't believe the pictures, don't believe the reports.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is This is a tough one for so

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, just Rich, I've

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Like if all of a sudden there were pictures

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe this is all up and up.

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Speaker 8: Maybe both of them live very private lives and they

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Speaker 8: So if you bring something really big, something glob believe in,

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Speaker 8: And then all of a sudden it changes this picture completely.

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Speaker 8: It's not so funny, it's not so easily explainable. It

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Speaker 8: it affects her integrity as a reporter. For Vrabel, this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so context matters when I and I didn't know

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Speaker 5: I think they were about four or five days ago.

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Speaker 5: When I first saw the.

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Speaker 6: Picture, I was like, Eh, that's gossip. Like I'm not

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Speaker 5: I started to see some of the reports come out

440
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 5: of Diana's reports over the years.

441
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,360
Speaker 6: And she started out as a Titans insider, like when

442
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 6: she worked for ESPN, like that was that was her

443
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 6: that was her beat, was Nashville and the Titans when

444
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,040
Speaker 6: rabel first arrived. And then you go back and you

445
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 6: actually dig into her reports and how she got like

446
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 6: she scooped Schefter and Rappaport on some pretty big stories

447
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 6: involving the Titans and AJ Brown and all the other stuff.

448
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 6: And then it's like, oh, well, that's that's not that's

449
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 6: the optics of that aren't great. And then you go

450
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 6: back even further, and to be fair, it was rescinded.

451
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 6: But she got accused of this when she worked in

452
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 6: Washington and she broke the story that Kirk Cousins was

453
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 6: was starting over RG THII, and I think it was

454
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,239
Speaker 6: the wife of the GM sure of that publicly, you know,

455
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 6: that's her side check, I think is what she said.

456
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 6: And then she eventually rescinded that and you know, apologize,

457
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 6: so that kind of got pushed away.

458
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 5: But all right, fool me once. Well how's the saying

459
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 5: go like that?

460
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 6: Like that's like, that's kind of and then I was like, wow,

461
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 6: well this this could be a big deal. And and

462
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 6: then now you kind of look at it through the

463
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,959
Speaker 6: lens of all right, this is not a personal story

464
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 6: about an affair anymore, because that kind of stuff, like

465
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 6: if if a coach or a you know, high profile

466
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 6: reporter is going through some personal problems in their marriage

467
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 6: and in their life, like you just kind of all right,

468
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 6: well that you know, everyone has their personal lives and

469
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 6: they have their professional lives, and they tend to be separate.

470
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 5: That's not the case here.

471
00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 6: This is a football story with conflict of interest, big

472
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 6: time ramifications.

473
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: So the next step of it, I think.

474
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 6: Is the proper step where the athletic has sidelined her

475
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 6: no pun intended, and they're going to review the coverage.

476
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 6: And I think it's worthy of an investigation based off

477
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 6: of the history that she's gone through, and now what

478
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 6: we're seeing come to light now the picture that listen,

479
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 6: I I I understand that context matters and these those.

480
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: Are just two pictures of two people. But the interlocking

481
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 5: fingers is the one that I just I can't get over.

482
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 6: Like, I just I don't know why that is necessary intimate.

483
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, very like that's.

484
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 6: The one that if I was the spouse of that, Yeah,

485
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 6: that would be the one that pushed me over the

486
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 6: edge and I'd say, something's going on here. Now, you

487
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 6: don't put me a tinfoil hat on for a second.

488
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 6: My conspiracy theory is Rassini's wife, who is the or

489
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 6: excuse me, Rossini's husband, who is the CEO of Shakeshack.

490
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 5: Pretty big deal, hired a p I that's what I think.

491
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 6: Because he he has a lot she like if you

492
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 6: look at like the optics of the situation, I don't

493
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 6: think Rabel's wife, she has a lot more to lose

494
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 6: in the situation.

495
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 5: Whereas the shake Shack ceo like that.

496
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 3: I think it's the spot.

497
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he'd be fine without it, like he'd be if

498
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 6: he's going around behind his back and doing that. Like

499
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 6: I think that's and not again.

500
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 5: That's just me.

501
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know being a tinfoil hat for a second,

502
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 6: but I think he hired a PI because how else

503
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 6: how else did these howlls did they get these photos? Like,

504
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 6: how else did they know where she was gonna be

505
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 6: like it's it's very unique.

506
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: Right, No, it's an interesting thought right there.

507
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 4: But listen, man, the best takeaway is what both of

508
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 4: you guys are saying originally rich through it out there

509
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 4: where if you're the spouse that's potentially getting cheated on,

510
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 4: you've got a whole different outlook on this story than

511
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 4: like the three of us talking about it today.

512
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: You know, like it's all of a sudden, it's real.

513
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 7: Right.

514
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 4: If you're the let's say you're the wife of Mike

515
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 4: Rabel and you see these photos, I doubt you're like, well,

516
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 4: maybe this and maybe that, and maybe we don't know

517
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 4: the whole story.

518
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 3: She's like what the hell is this? Right? Like, it's a.

519
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 4: Completely different ballgame if you're attached to either Russini or

520
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: Mike Rabel as their partner.

521
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's it's not that idea. What you want

522
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 3: not what you want.

523
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: With the Patriots organization, there are depending on who you

524
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 4: work for. I'm sure there are entities where if you're

525
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 4: involved in a storyline like this, a corporation would be like, well,

526
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 4: we're getting a lot of pub you know, is that the.

527
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: Worst thing in the world?

528
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: Right?

529
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 4: It is twenty twenty six. There are some things like

530
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: this that happened, but not the Athletic. The athletic wants

531
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 4: to be you know, reputable, serious, buttoned up, straight lace

532
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 4: that they don't want any part of this.

533
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

534
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, that so journalism ethics, you know, it is. It

535
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 8: is one of those things where you know, conflicts can

536
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 8: compromise your readers or your viewers trust. Uh And and

537
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 8: if that conflict isn't even real, if it's just perceived,

538
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 8: it is still your responsibility to keep that relationship as

539
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 8: clean as possible, you know. So if there was ever

540
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 8: any concern that there was something untoward happening between a

541
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 8: reporter and a source, you know, obviously as a reporter,

542
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 8: you would have to do everything in your power, if

543
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 8: you cared about your job, to make sure that those

544
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 8: rumors were kept as far away from reality as possible. So,

545
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 8: even if that is the perception, and I'm sure you

546
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 8: know that it is possible that Rusidi and Vrabel developed

547
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 8: a strong enough friendship or working relationship whatever you want

548
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 8: to call professional relationship, over the years, that he would

549
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 8: feel comfortable giving her the scoop on some big happenings

550
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 8: around the teams that he's been affiliated with.

551
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: That is highly possible.

552
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 8: It's also possible, based off these pictures that there was

553
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 8: potentially alongside of that a relationship. Now I'm not going

554
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 8: to sit here and speculate about their private lives, but

555
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 8: the perception of that conflict is now more of a

556
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 8: potential reality than ever before, and so it's going to

557
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 8: take a lot more explaining. If all of a sudden,

558
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 8: you know, like the same way Russini had the scoop

559
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 8: on certain stories coming out of Titans Camp, if all

560
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 8: of a sudden this year she has the scoop on

561
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 8: certain patriot stories, you know, rolling out, it's going to

562
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 8: affect her integrity.

563
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 2: So if the athletic, if it's important to the athletic.

564
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 8: When she puts out a tweet like she did the

565
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 8: other day and she was just reposting a friend's story

566
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 8: on the referees, the comments below it, Man, we're just

567
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 8: roasting her and Vrabel And I don't know if that

568
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 8: quiets down, I'm not sure.

569
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: If I'm sure it will. I don't know when, And

570
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

571
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 8: There are going to be certain people who, regardless of

572
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 8: how far we get from this incident, are going to

573
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 8: consistently remind both of them at every single turn, and

574
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 8: via social media is the easiest vehicle that this has occurred,

575
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 8: that this conflict, perceived or real, has occurred.

576
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 5: I don't think it's loan down anytime soon. Guys.

577
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 6: The court of public opinion has a funny way of

578
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 6: just budding their nose into this forever and there. And also,

579
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 6: to be fair to the court of public opinion, it's

580
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 6: not like their responses to it, you know, really we're

581
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 6: very meaningful or very strong.

582
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 5: I mean they like it. Just the optics. That's all

583
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 5: you have in journalism, That's it. Like both Rich and

584
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 5: I went to Penn State.

585
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 6: We probably took a lot of the same Penn State

586
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 6: journalism classes, like one of almost media ethics. I remember

587
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 6: who taught it, Marie Harden, shout out, Professor Harden, like

588
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 6: it just that's all you have in our profession is

589
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 6: your reputation and your name.

590
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 5: And I really feel, honestly, well, there's two things.

591
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 6: First of all, I'm glad I'm not a celebrity, because

592
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 6: this is the kind of like you're just every move

593
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 6: is under the microscope.

594
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 5: You can't go anywhere.

595
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 6: You really can't do anything that is not going to

596
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 6: be seen, Like you really you can't do this stuff

597
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 6: the under the curtain. It's going to get behind the curtain.

598
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 6: It's going to get found out eventually. But I feel

599
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 6: really bad for a lot of the very talented female

600
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 6: journalists out there who unfortunately, this is what this is

601
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 6: the byproduct of when you're trying to do anything to

602
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 6: get the story, and a lot of females get it

603
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 6: really get it really rough, because like, oh, you're only

604
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 6: in this spot because you slept your way to the

605
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 6: top and you're really pretty, and like this isn't helping

606
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: that narrative.

607
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 5: It's not.

608
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 6: And unfortunately a lot of talented female journalists are going

609
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 6: to get pushed aside because of a story like this,

610
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 6: and they're going to be discounted and discredited when they

611
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 6: do work hard and break a story the right way,

612
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 6: because this is not the right way to stories, guys,

613
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: It's not it. And I understand that maybe there isn't

614
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 6: everything being field in these photos that's the truth, And

615
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 6: maybe the truth is somewhere in between. But to Brian's point, like,

616
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 6: you're not interlocking hands with Jay Glazers, right, Like you're

617
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 6: just you're just not and like and and like, I

618
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 6: don't think Diana Rossini's doing this with Mike McCarthy, Like

619
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 6: I love Mike McCarthy, but he's not Mike Brabel Like,

620
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 6: it's just it's it's a bat it's a horrible look.

621
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 5: It's a horrible look for what you do in your job.

622
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 6: And on the other side too with Rabel, like you're

623
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 6: married with kid bro Like, come on, be a man,

624
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 6: You're a man. This is not what men do. It

625
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: is not the way that men conduct business. We talked

626
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 6: about this with.

627
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: Shirt with the show and Moore story.

628
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 6: It is not the way that a man is a man,

629
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 6: Like you had a wife and kids, be better as

630
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 6: a man.

631
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, totally fair. I think she. I think Roussini

632
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: needs to break like a chief story, you.

633
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Know, yeah exactly. They will believe her.

634
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they were like, Okay, that seems legit, right, yeah,

635
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: but all kidding a side man, this is not a

636
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: good situation whatsoever. But I'll pivot from this new soap

637
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: opera which is ongoing, right it might have some twists

638
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: and turns coming up here.

639
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: We can't bet on that.

640
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: There's no bet to be made unless there's like a

641
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: Patriots season win total that you can somehow. I don't

642
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 4: know ti to to Mike Vrabel and not really anything

643
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 4: juicy to bet on, So I'll throw something else that

644
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: you can bet on. How about this NBA Rookie of

645
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: the Year race. This has been wild. It's between Cooper

646
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: Flag and Conka Nipple. Ca Nipple's been doing his thing

647
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 4: with the Charlotte Hornets. Cooper Flag he's been really good,

648
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: although injured and missing games, so he's been really good

649
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 4: with the Dallas Mavericks. But what's crazy is if you

650
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 4: look at the betting odds entering last night, Cooper Flagg

651
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: was an underdog. He was plus one point twenty entering

652
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 4: the evening. Then he scores thirty three points last night

653
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 4: against the Spurs. Now on BETMGM, he's favored, he's minus

654
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: a dollar sixty five.

655
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 3: It's flipped that much. And I'm watching this stuff, I'm like,

656
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? This is just random to me.

657
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 4: Where in a meaningless game against the Spurs when you

658
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Speaker 4: know the starters aren't playing full minutes. It's this goofy game.

659
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Speaker 4: He scores thirty three points, he had twenty five in

660
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Speaker 4: the first half. He played well, but that's what does it,

661
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 4: that's what flips the betting. It's crazy, Like, I don't

662
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Speaker 4: understand how these late season games that are basically meaningless

663
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Speaker 4: are changing the betting market this much.

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Speaker 3: It's wild to me. But it's just classic steam.

665
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Speaker 4: And people see a performance by Flag and they think, well,

666
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Speaker 4: he's the bigger name, he's gonna win it. And then

667
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Speaker 4: there's just bets bets, bets bets, and the line gets flipped.

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Speaker 4: It's just crazy. There's this much movement in an eighty

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Speaker 4: two game season for a meaningless game against the Spurs.

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Speaker 3: But here we are.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, steam is a real thing, and public

672
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 8: opinion can be swayed very very quickly based on the

673
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Speaker 8: smallest pieces of evidence. Like we were just discussing this,

674
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Speaker 8: and it does relate a little with the Vrabel and

675
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Speaker 8: the Diana Russini conversation about the court of public opinion.

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Speaker 8: You know, sometimes all it takes is one tiny shred

677
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Speaker 8: of evidence to change everything, and then it is hard

678
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Speaker 8: to get people back. So even when we're talking about betting, odds.

679
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Speaker 8: You know, a futures bet could be shifted in one

680
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Speaker 8: relatively meaningless moment. You know, you could you could have,

681
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 8: like you said, a late season performance that should not

682
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Speaker 8: amount to, you know, a market shifting moment, but it

683
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 8: does because the court of public opinion drives that narrative.

684
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Speaker 8: And and when things pick up pace, there's a lot

685
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Speaker 8: more bandwagoners than there are prior to So, yeah, it's

686
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Speaker 8: probably not even done. There could be another instance of

687
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Speaker 8: this coming soon. I think there will be. So this

688
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 8: is something I've studied for years. The futures market is

689
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 8: incredibly reactionary. It is not predictive at all.

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Speaker 6: Remember Matthew Stafford in the MVP race and how bad

691
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Speaker 6: he was on Monday Night against the Falcons, and all

692
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Speaker 6: of a sudden, Drake may became the heavy favorite to

693
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Speaker 6: win the MVP.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, guess who won the MVP. Yeah it wasn't Drake May.

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Speaker 6: So I just think you do if anything, it's given

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Speaker 6: you value on the other side, right, Brian, We talk

697
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 6: about that that the flip all the time. I haven't

698
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Speaker 6: paid enough attention to the Rookie of the Year race

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Speaker 6: to give you an accurate prediction, but I wouldn't trust

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Speaker 6: the you know, the horde of people that are rushing

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Speaker 6: to bet the other side when one thing happens that

702
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Speaker 6: pushes the market.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt it's it's one of these things. Stafford

704
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Speaker 4: Drake may thing is a great comparison, because, yeah, it

705
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Speaker 4: did look like Stafford kicked it away in that horrible

706
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Speaker 4: three interception performance against the Falcons, but then you stepped

707
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Speaker 4: away from that and a lot of the better A

708
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Speaker 4: lot of the voters were looked at the whole body

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Speaker 4: of work and it made a lot more sense to

710
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Speaker 4: go with Stafford, and maybe that's what will happen here.

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Speaker 3: Conk Nipple.

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Speaker 4: Depending on who you're talking to, they're like, man, you

713
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: look at some of these numbers, especially like the advanced numbers,

714
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 4: it's canipple and it's not even close. And so maybe

715
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 4: some of the voters will look at it that way.

716
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 4: It's hard to predict. They could look at it and say, well,

717
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 4: Cooper flag he's he's the bigger name, we think he

718
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 4: might have the better career. He caught my attention more like,

719
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Speaker 4: whatever the reasoning is, I can see voters voting for

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Speaker 4: him as well. So it could be really interesting to

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Speaker 4: see how it plays out. All right, We've got Rich

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Speaker 4: John Berger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 5: What do you like?

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Speaker 6: All right, let's go to a gusts you know, and

752
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Speaker 6: I told you there's a guy this week that I

753
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 6: love coming into the tournament that has been striking the

754
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 6: ball very well, but his short game has been a disaster,

755
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Speaker 6: and I think that tends to swing violently in both directions.

756
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 6: So if he's been bad, I think he's got a

757
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 6: chance to be good. And this is Cam Young, Cameron Young,

758
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Speaker 6: however you want to say it.

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Speaker 5: You can get him at plus one sixty to finish

760
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Speaker 5: in the top five.

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00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 6: So Cameron Young right now is T seven at minus four,

762
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Speaker 6: and I think he's right in the mix.

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Speaker 5: You know. Minus five gets into the T five range.

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Speaker 6: there's eight other guys in the top five, you get

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Speaker 6: guys that are also T five, you get your full

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Speaker 6: So Cameron on the Potter will improve this weekend top

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Speaker 6: five plus one sixty to start the.

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Speaker 8: Plot, Man, I love poking around on the bet mgm

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Speaker 8: app to find like little unique ways that you can

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Speaker 8: bet on certain players during tournaments, in this case the Masters,

780
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Speaker 8: but like also just in general.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a lot of fun to get deep.

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Speaker 8: And if you click on the Masters tab and you

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Speaker 8: go over to specials, you scroll down to Rory round three.

784
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 8: You could get Rory to shoot seventy or under in

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Speaker 8: his round three for minus one oh five, and I

786
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Speaker 8: think you throw that in a parlay the way he's golfing,

787
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Speaker 8: and you add a couple of other things you feel

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Speaker 8: pretty good about over the weekend here in Augusta, and

789
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Speaker 8: you got a pretty special pick. So give me Rory

790
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Speaker 8: to shoot seventy or lower out Augusta from minus one

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Speaker 8: oh five as my leg of our three legger here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to tell you the pick and then

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Speaker 4: fill abuster for about a minute so Jared can find

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Speaker 4: the pick.

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Speaker 5: And then we've already got problem because I don't think

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Speaker 5: the Rory one is parlayable.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, no way, no, it's a special.

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Speaker 7: It's a special.

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Speaker 6: It's cash we'll find well know ye okay, sorry, yeah,

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Speaker 6: because in his rapid fire we need I'll drop it up.

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Speaker 5: That could be a prop up.

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00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll throw one that's a definitely a prop it

803
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: up pick right there. But I'll go first, Rich and

804
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 4: then we'll circle back to you for your your next pick.

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00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 3: In the parlor platter, it's.

806
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 4: A I'm looking at Twins versus Blue Jays team to

807
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 4: score the first run.

808
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

809
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: The Twins are minus a dollar sixty the Twins against

810
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 4: the Blue Jays. Blue Jays are plus one twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I like the blue Jays. Listen, the pitching matchup matters

812
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: a ton. It's Joe Ryan for the Twins. It's against

813
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 4: Eric Lower of the the Blue Jays over here. Yeah,

814
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 4: I had a rough spring training, but he's not a

815
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: bad picture.

816
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: And he's going up against the Twins and I'm getting

817
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: plus one twenty five.

818
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I I realize that momentum is the next day's

819
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 4: starting pitcher.

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00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: Right we all know.

821
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: That that that that ingenious phrase in baseball. But for

822
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 4: what it's worth, the Twins were leading for nothing yesterday

823
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: against the Blue Jays and the Blue Jays scored ten

824
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Speaker 4: unanswered runs.

825
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 3: Okay, is there a little bit of momentum? Is there

826
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Speaker 3: a little bit of carry over.

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Speaker 4: Into the beginning of today's game against Twins? There might be,

828
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Speaker 4: And again, Eric Lauer is not awful. So I get

829
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Speaker 4: plus one twenty five.

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Speaker 3: I'll take it. Give me the Blue Jays to score

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Speaker 3: the first run today.

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Speaker 8: All right, Well, this isn't gonna lengthen the odds as

833
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 8: much as I would have liked. But give me row

834
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Speaker 8: Rory McElroy to win the Masters at minus two fifty.

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Speaker 2: That's my leg in the parlay.

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Speaker 6: Eric, I think I think that should work.

837
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Speaker 5: Okay, I think no, it doesn't.

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Speaker 6: It's job get away from golfe what but but just

839
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Speaker 6: our two legs Brian and Ies plus forty five?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Fort sit this.

842
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: One out rage? I'm out of here?

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00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: Boys?

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Speaker 3: Oh what is going on? Happy Saturday to you. Hope

845
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: all is well?

846
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Speaker 4: Okay, So we've got the NFL Draft in the not

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Speaker 4: too distant future. We are sitting here talking to you

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Speaker 4: a live on April eleventh, right, the draft begins on

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Speaker 4: April twenty third, so we're lessening two weeks away from

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Speaker 4: this bad boy. We're talking about like a week and

851
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Speaker 4: a half.

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Speaker 5: Let's get it.

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00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 3: On the plane style, huh.

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Speaker 4: And so I have carefully crafted two hard hitting questions.

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Speaker 4: I'm excited for this, actually for you gentlemen. Now, there

856
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: are layers to these questions here, and we will get

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Speaker 4: into it. But quite simply, it's a matter of take

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00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 4: your pick, which player would you prefer? Okay, if you're

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00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: looking for a pass rusher, and we'll get to the

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Speaker 4: wide receivers in a second. But if you're looking for

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Speaker 4: a pass rusher, would you prefer to take David Bailey

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00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: out of Texas Tech or Rvel Reese out of Ohio State. Now,

863
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: there are a couple of layers to this. David Bailey,

864
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: he had fourteen and a half sacks last year. He

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Speaker 4: was tied for the most in college football. He's been

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Speaker 4: a productive player, very good player, top prospect rvel ree

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Speaker 4: He is productive as well, but a little bit different.

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Speaker 4: He is a hybrid guy, so he not only rushed

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Speaker 4: the passer, he played off ball linebacker as well, like

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Speaker 4: not rushing the passer. And the stats are eye popping

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. So this guy might be the

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00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 4: second overall pick in the draft. Rvel Reese out of

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Speaker 4: Ohio State. He generated nineteen pressures on ninety seven pass

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Speaker 4: rush reps. He rushed the passer less than one hundred

875
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: times last season. So the question is which guy do

876
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: you want? Arvel Reese has, you know, the toolbox. If

877
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: you look at a guy that has the measurables, the

878
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: combine numbers, he's your guy, and he's got a high,

879
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: high upside. And David Bailey does also, But what David

880
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 4: Bailey has is a lot more production in college football

881
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 4: than rvil Reese does.

882
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 3: So when you.

883
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: Start to weigh it that way, and look, we're looking

884
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 4: at the number two overall pick, if you're the Jets specifically,

885
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 4: maybe that changes your mind a little bit. Do you

886
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 4: want the high upside, high ceiling guy like rvel Reese

887
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 4: who wasn't as productive, who could be a home run

888
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 4: but maybe not. Or do you want a guy like

889
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: David Bailey who's ceiling arguably could be a little bit lower,

890
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 4: but he's been way more productive. If you're Aaron Glenn,

891
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: the Jets head coach, do you want the guy that's

892
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 4: a little bit more proven, has been more productive.

893
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: Well, David Bailey's your guy. So if you look at

894
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 3: it that way.

895
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 4: With the Jets, like through Jets vision, if you will,

896
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: maybe that affects who you would rather have if you're

897
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: looking at just prospect versus prospect, and who you think

898
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: is going to be a better pro take the Jets

899
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: out of it, however you want to look at it,

900
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 4: Who's your guy? Take your pick? Rich Hornberger, David Bailey

901
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: or Rvel Reese.

902
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 8: All right, Well, I'll answer your question directly because you said,

903
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 8: let's start with the pass rusher. And so if I'm

904
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 8: gonna look through at the lens of who's the better

905
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 8: pass rusher in my opinion, based on watching Tech or

906
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 8: Texas Tech and Ohio State Film, I'm going with David Bailey,

907
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 8: and he has a higher win rate. When we're talking

908
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 8: about pass rushing. He obviously led the nation in sacks.

909
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 8: He's the type of player who's prototypical from that standpoint. Now,

910
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 8: physical traits, I mean, there are some places where Reese

911
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 8: takes the cake. Obviously running a faster forty time, you know,

912
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 8: Bailey's more of a four to five guy.

913
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: Reese, you know, was able to run in the four fours.

914
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 8: And when you're talking about fractions of seconds in the forty,

915
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 8: it may not if you're unfamiliar with the measurement. Maybe

916
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 8: it doesn't seem like a big deal. But that level

917
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 8: of explosiveness to just shave a tenth off of a

918
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 8: forty time, it does matter and can show up on

919
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 8: film and on the field.

920
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: But when you're.

921
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 8: Taking two elite athletes and you're starting to look at

922
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 8: just the combine stats alone, you're really splitting hairs.

923
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: The most important thing is to turn on the film. So,

924
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: just from a.

925
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 8: Pure pass rush standpoint, putting five fingers in the dirt,

926
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 8: working off tackle, game in game out, play in play out,

927
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 8: Bailly is the more bang for your buck pass rusher. Now,

928
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 8: the higher ceiling guy may be Reese in terms of

929
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 8: what he can do for you on the football field

930
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 8: with a good coaching staff. You know, the multiplicity, the

931
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 8: position flexibility. But just from a pass rushing lens, David

932
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 8: Baily's my pick.

933
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think scheme matters a lot. Personally. I think

934
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 5: Reese fits in better with more of.

935
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 6: An outside line back hybrid edge four three type of scheme,

936
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 6: whereas Bailey in a three to four being that traditional

937
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 6: edge rusher, I think makes a lot more sense. Well,

938
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 6: the Jets play a four to three, so maybe there's

939
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 6: your there's your answer right there. I think Arizona, the

940
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 6: third pick in the draft, plays a three four with

941
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 6: Nick Ralis. That's their base defense.

942
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 5: So I think that to me leads more towards RVL res.

943
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 6: That's the way that orcheres me towards towards David Bailey.

944
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 6: That that's the way that I see it. I what

945
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: Rich said his spot on I think Bailey is the

946
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 6: better pass rusher, the more pure pass rusher. When I

947
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 6: watched him in college, I'm like, Damn, this guy's freaking amazing.

948
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 6: Reese is kind of one of those guys that's like

949
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: Spider Man. He's all over the field, and in a

950
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 6: three to four, I think you need at that edge spot,

951
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 6: you need a pure pass rusher. We're in the four

952
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 6: to three, you can be a little bit more flexible.

953
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 6: I think that on those edge spots, and I think

954
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 6: that's where he's probably a better fit.

955
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 5: On the Jets. The odds say it's a pick them.

956
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 6: The odds are saying this thing is could go either way,

957
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 6: there is not, and I've seen it flip in both directions,

958
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 6: and to me, that leans towards you know, a sharp

959
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 6: better or a couple betters putting on one side and

960
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 6: then they come back once the odds move and go

961
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 6: on the other side. I think if you're getting plus

962
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 6: money on either guy to be the number two pick,

963
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 6: I think you're making a good bet. But I think

964
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 6: scheme matters. But also, Darren Moogie's gonna be he holds

965
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 6: the cards here. We know who's going one, So Darren

966
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 6: Moogie is the essentially has the first pick in this draft.

967
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: So I think that's it's more about what scheme he

968
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 6: fits into better, or what scheme Mogie fit thinks that

969
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 6: one of these guys fit into. I can't tell you

970
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 6: that it's gonna be one of those two. I feel

971
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 6: very confident it's gonna be one of those two guys

972
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 6: at the number two spot. It's it's all about where

973
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 6: they where they slide in. I would say Reese because

974
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 6: I think the Jets are, you know, looking for maybe

975
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 6: more of that high upside. They have another first round

976
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 6: pick later on, So I agree with Rich's assessment. I

977
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 6: just I don't know if the scheme one hundred fits

978
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: what Bailey's trying to do fair enough.

979
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would personally, I would take David Bailey in general,

980
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: and i'd also take David Bailey specifically. If I'm the Jets,

981
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: we got to find a pass rush like and Rvel.

982
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: Reese can be a really good NFL player, but the

983
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: hybrid thing and being off ball a good amount of

984
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: time when he's on the field, you know, I gotta

985
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: have a pure pass rusher. I got to have more

986
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: pass rush in my defense. So I would go David

987
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 4: Bailey specifically. Of course, if we're talking in general, I

988
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: would go with David Bailey. And it's not to sell

989
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 4: Rvel rees short, but it's like, Bro, you had ninety

990
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 4: seven pass rushes in all last season.

991
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 3: Nine ninety seven. That's nothing. That's nothing.

992
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: So I just need a guy that's a dedicated, you know,

993
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 4: all the time rushing the passer type player, and that's

994
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: David Bailey. So I would go that direction, all right. Another,

995
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: take your pick for the receivers. Okay, we got Jordan

996
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 4: Tyson out of Arizona's, We've got Carnell Tait out of

997
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 4: Ohio State, and you can make an argument for either

998
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 4: one of these guys. Carnell Tait is a very good,

999
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 4: very productive wide receiver, great route runner. You could argue

1000
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 4: maybe doesn't maybe doesn't have as high of a ceiling

1001
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 4: as Jordan Tyson. So Jordan Tyson at Arizona State special.

1002
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 4: He closed his twenty twenty four season the final six games.

1003
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 4: Get a load of these stats. Fifty catches for seven

1004
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty two yards and six touchdowns. That's in

1005
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: six games to close the twenty twenty four season. It's

1006
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 4: a special talent. The bad thing is he's been banged

1007
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 4: up so last season. He had a hamstring injury that

1008
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 4: cost him games, previously had a broken kyler bone, had

1009
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: an ACL tear. But man, he is great running after

1010
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: the catch. He's got unique talent, good size, acceleration, you

1011
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 4: name it. He's just checking boxes. Jack Jack Chuck cha Chuck.

1012
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 4: So you could argue Jordan Tyson has the higher ceiling,

1013
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 4: but I would argue it's not just about the ceiling,

1014
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: it's also about the floor. I think Tate's floor is

1015
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 4: higher as well. I would look to Carnell Tate myself.

1016
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 4: And it's interesting if you start looking at specific teams.

1017
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 4: What if the Chiefs are sitting there at ninth overall.

1018
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 4: Did they want a guy like Jordan Tyson, huge upside,

1019
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 4: high ceiling but banged up quite a bit, or they

1020
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: want a guy like Carnell Tit Carnell Tate, little steadier,

1021
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: special player, but a higher floor in my estimation. Kind

1022
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: of interesting when you attach a specific team onto that.

1023
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 4: Maybe the Browns. Browns might have their pick at sixth

1024
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: overall which wide receiver they want? So Rich, we'll throw

1025
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: it out to you, either thinking of a specific team

1026
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 4: or just in general. Do you want Jordan Tyson out

1027
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 4: of Arizona State or Carnel Tate out of Ohio State.

1028
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 8: Man, you know, this is a very similar comparison to

1029
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 8: what we were just talking about with Bailey and Reese,

1030
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 8: because one is more of the polished pass rusher, the

1031
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 8: other one is the higher ceiling guy. With you know,

1032
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 8: some some skills and some things that flash on tate

1033
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 8: that really make you fall in love with the athlete

1034
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 8: and the player that they could be or could translate

1035
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 8: to in the NFL.

1036
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: And that's similar to.

1037
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 8: Comparing Cardinal Tait and Jordan Tyson, because Tyson he plays

1038
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 8: predominantly that exposition.

1039
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: And if you think of.

1040
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 8: Like an aman Ra Saint Brown, or you think of

1041
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 8: Brandon Ayuk, which are some of the comps that these

1042
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 8: draft analysts go to. When they talk about Jordan Tyson

1043
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 8: and his separation working against defenders at the college level,

1044
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 8: it gets you excited because you say, my goodness, well,

1045
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 8: if you could get the Saint Brown production or the

1046
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 8: Ayuk production, especially earlier in their career on NFL football field,

1047
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,879
Speaker 8: it feels like a no brainer. However, if you want

1048
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 8: to go with the more quarterback friendly receiver, meaning a

1049
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 8: guy who understands how to get open and present a

1050
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 8: target for a quarterback to find, especially one who's had

1051
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 8: to compete with a pretty crowded wide receiver room at

1052
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 8: Ohio State, think about how editive it gets just in

1053
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 8: your position group to get to the field at Ohio

1054
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 8: State and then to stay on the field in terms

1055
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 8: of level of production. That level of pressure at O

1056
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 8: state much higher than cardinal. Excuse me, then Jordan Tyson

1057
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 8: experienced during the course of his career. And that quarterback

1058
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 8: friendly aspect to it. What do I mean by that?

1059
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 8: You know, it means that when you're you're coming out

1060
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 8: of breaks, you're working downhill toward your quarterback, whether it's

1061
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 8: a crossing route, whether it's just a quick dig route,

1062
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 8: you know you're you're working back toward the line of

1063
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 8: scrimmage and making yourself available. You don't float downfield and

1064
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 8: allow the defender to undercut a route where it may

1065
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 8: look like the.

1066
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: Quarterback's fault on an interception.

1067
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 8: Meanwhile, if you have a keen football eye, you go, no,

1068
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 8: that wasn't a crisp route like you're supposed to make

1069
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 8: that cut. It's supposed to you know, one foot in

1070
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 8: the ground, get going. This is a timing route. This

1071
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 8: receiver really sold this quarterback out because that ball needs

1072
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 8: to be on time. And if that receiver isn't in

1073
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 8: the spot, well that's an interception. And that's where Tate,

1074
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 8: in my opinion, has the edge over Tyson. Not only that,

1075
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 8: but the injuries. The injuries man it's a big red flag.

1076
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 2: Now.

1077
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 8: I don't want to dog anybody for getting injured in

1078
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 8: college because it again another thing that doesn't translate to

1079
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 8: the NFL always, because I think Tyson's a tough kid.

1080
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 8: I think he's played through some stuff and that matters too.

1081
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 8: Think about Gronk. He came in his draft stock, fell

1082
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 8: into the NFL because he had a back injury coming

1083
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 8: out of Arizona, and then he ended up being arguably

1084
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 8: the best tight end to ever play football at the

1085
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 8: NFL level.

1086
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: So injuries aren't everything.

1087
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Speaker 8: Injuries aren't everything, but it's a part of the story

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00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 8: that needs to be discussed pre draft when you're making

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00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 8: a first round investment. So I would say Tate is

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00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 8: not only the more polished receiver pick with potentially the

1091
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 8: lower upside, but more consistency and also the less often

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00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 8: injured of the too.

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00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, the odds agree.

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00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 6: I mean the draft position odds for Tate is seven

1095
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 6: and a half and there's heavy juice to the under,

1096
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 6: like over minus two hundred, so he's not gonna last.

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00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 6: I think to Kansas City at nine. I mean, it

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00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,919
Speaker 6: just makes a lot of sense, right, stay in state,

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00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 6: stay in Cleveland. They go to the Browns at six.

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00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 6: I think that makes a ton of sense. I think

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00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 6: Washington makes makes some sense too. I would be surprised

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00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 6: if he makes it to the eighth pick based on

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00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 6: what the odds are telling me. And I agree with

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00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 6: with Rich's assessment that the hand size also is a

1105
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 6: big one. We talk about hands right receivers, and you

1106
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 6: have good hands, Carnel. Tate's in the ninetieth percentile of

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00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 6: hand size, where whereas Tyson is much lower, in the

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00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 6: twenty seventh percentile. So I think that's a big one.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're both really good players. Tate's a little younger,

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00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 6: slightly by about a half a year. I know that's

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 6: not a big deal, but in NFL terms, you know

1112
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 6: that means that he's probably got a little.

1113
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 2: Bit more growing to do.

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00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 6: And the injury, I would is the final answer for me.

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00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 6: And I agree with Brian's assessment. Higher floor, maybe slightly

1116
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 6: lower ceiling, but higher floor. And when you're drafting in

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00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 6: the top ten, I would prefer to have a higher floor, frankly, because.

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 5: You know you're not gonna miss on those guys.

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00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 6: You might not hit the home run, it might be

1120
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 6: a double in the gap, but you're not going to

1121
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 6: strike out. And I think that to me is very

1122
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 6: important when you're drafting in the top ten, especially with

1123
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 6: a receiver. Rookie receivers tend to struggle. It's like, look

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00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 6: at Marvin Harrison. It's really difficult for rookie receivers to

1125
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 6: find their footing. The verbiage is different, the routes are different,

1126
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 6: the route tree changes, the way that you check with me,

1127
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 6: the way that routes are options coming in and out

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00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 6: of breaks depending on what the defense is doing. Like,

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00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 6: it's just it's why the quarterback position is so difficult

1130
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 6: to adapt to the NFL level because you're reading these

1131
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 6: coverages and I think at Ohio State, I just I

1132
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 6: feel safer with Carnel Tate than I would Tyson.

1133
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1134
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're all in the same page. Interesting.

1135
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 4: It's one of these deals where it's not a comp

1136
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 4: in terms of the players, in terms of stylistically or anything.

1137
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 4: But think of a guy like Xavier Worthy with the

1138
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: Chiefs where it's a ceiling floor type thing where he

1139
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 4: ran this blazing forty times. He's just a burner, right,

1140
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 4: and so the Chiefs take him with a first round

1141
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 4: pick and he's been productive ish, But that's a guy

1142
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 4: where you're like, man, if he realizes his potential, look

1143
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 4: at the ceiling and he had one touchdown catch last

1144
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: season with Mahomes as his quarterback.

1145
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1146
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 4: So the point is it's not just about the ceiling.

1147
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 4: Like the floor matters as well. And I know it's

1148
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 4: easy to get captivated and seduced if you will, by

1149
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 4: the ceiling where it's like, man, if this guy, if

1150
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 4: he reaches his full potential, well what if he doesn't.

1151
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 3: What's the floor?

1152
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 4: What's the realistic, you know, baseline type production you're getting

1153
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: from this player.

1154
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 3: I think it's very important to think about that too.

1155
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 2: I do too, I really do.

1156
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 8: I think that when you're a general manager, with all

1157
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,280
Speaker 8: of the data that you have compiled over the course

1158
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 8: of the final college season of evaluation for each of

1159
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 8: these players, which typically is their best or the one

1160
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 8: that is going to be weighted the heaviest in terms

1161
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 8: of making a determination on whether or not this player

1162
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 8: is going to be special enough to be drafted, especially

1163
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 8: in the first round, to your organization.

1164
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 2: Because look, love it or hate it.

1165
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 8: General managers are judged harshly on how they draft in

1166
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 8: the first round. It's just such a big part of

1167
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 8: the culture of football, and there's so much momentum that

1168
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 8: can hinge and swing on those selections.

1169
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:34,959
Speaker 2: We see it all the time.

1170
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 8: It's like, oh, my goodness, the you know, TMX could

1171
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 8: have had player B if the you know, got selected

1172
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 8: two picks later and went to this team who's won

1173
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 8: a super Bowl. Now, if they would have just gone

1174
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 8: with that player, Oh, that what a squander.

1175
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, you know.

1176
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 8: Twenty twenty hindsight, it's easy to play, you know, Monday morning,

1177
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 8: general manager two years departed from the draft we're talking about.

1178
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 8: It's very difficult when you're in the war room, and

1179
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 8: so I think you have to get all this information

1180
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 8: when you're a general manager, sit down, turn on the

1181
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 8: film again and say to yourself, our quarterback or our

1182
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 8: perceived starter at quarterback, our scheme, our head coach, how

1183
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 8: is this player going to match this system? Do I

1184
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 8: think that we have a system that welcomes this player

1185
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 8: and that we can use this player in immediacy, because

1186
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 8: that's how you're judged. Also, you don't have the two

1187
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 8: or three year on ramp that you used to have

1188
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 8: as a general manager, where teams are going to give

1189
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 8: you some leish and some on ramp. Now you need

1190
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 8: to have production immediately, And so I think you got

1191
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 8: to look at upside and you got to say, yeah, great,

1192
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 8: But is that upside going to be during my career.

1193
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 2: As a general manager or.

1194
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 8: Is it going to be for the next general manager

1195
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 8: that they hire When this draft pick looks like a

1196
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 8: bust for two years while he's learning the NFL, and

1197
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 8: then finally he starts getting to that level of expectation

1198
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 8: in year three and I've been fired from this organization, Like,

1199
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 8: you have to make that determination too, because it is

1200
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 8: it is. It is a sport about a game, and

1201
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 8: it's a sport about football, but there's also a business

1202
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 8: side to it. So again, if you want the rock

1203
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 8: steady pick, you go with Tate. If you want that

1204
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 8: higher upside and you feel like you have some on

1205
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 8: ramp to groom a player into becoming the player you love,

1206
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 8: you go with the other guy.

1207
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 6: You've got nine gms this year that are in their first, second,

1208
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 6: or third draft, and you've got one team that doesn't

1209
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 6: have a GM that's a third.

1210
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 5: To Rich's point right there.

1211
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and that's something that I've really So the

1212
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 6: draft has been like, I love the draft. When I

1213
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 6: first started the gambling media thing back in twenty nineteen,

1214
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 6: you couldn't bet on the draft.

1215
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 5: It didn't exist.

1216
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 6: And then twenty twenty happened and everyone went into their

1217
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 6: little COVID caves and all of a sudden you could

1218
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: bet on the draft, and to be fair, you could

1219
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 6: bet on it, but it was not the robust markets

1220
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 6: that we are aware of today. And since that time,

1221
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 6: over the last six years, it has become a phenomenon

1222
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 6: in the gambling world. And I've really studied it. I

1223
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 6: mean I have just dived headfirst into it. And the

1224
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 6: thing that I've changed over the last year or so

1225
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 6: is I've really studied the gms and their tendencies and

1226
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 6: what they prefer to pick.

1227
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 5: And I think that is fascinating.

1228
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 6: And we'll get into it a lot over the next

1229
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 6: week and then next sat in two saturdays from now,

1230
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 6: when we have some you know, oh, this is what

1231
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 6: these teams did in the first round, we can really

1232
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 6: dive into it. But I think it's a fascinating study

1233
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 6: with how gms operate and which ones prefer to trade,

1234
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 6: which ones prefer to stick, and pick, what schools, what

1235
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 6: age groups, what athleticism traits certain gms prefer.

1236
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 5: You can profile these.

1237
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 6: Gms and you could really get an edge on who

1238
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 6: they're going to pick based off of that.

1239
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 5: It's a really interesting study.

1240
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 3: Brian absolutely, all right.

1241
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:58,240
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Speaker 3: All American. I'm Brian.

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Speaker 3: Good morning to you, Seamus. Okay, Masters on the mind.

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Speaker 4: Rory is crushing it, the biggest lead through thirty six

1274
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 4: holes in Masters history. Do you see a way to

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01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,000
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1277
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 9: It's hard to see Rory choking this lead away. I mean,

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Speaker 9: it's the biggest lead after two rounds you've ever seen,

1282
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Speaker 9: and he looks styled in as he's ever. So there's

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Speaker 9: can you can look at the last two days, whether

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Speaker 9: I was on Kopka this week. Doesn't look like he's

1291
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 9: gonna get there, but maybe there's still some value on him.

1292
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 9: He looked like he started to figuring a game out

1293
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,400
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's funny because golf is I would say, of

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01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 6: the of the sports that we talk about on a

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Speaker 6: weekly basis seams, bat basketball, football, you know, baseball.

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Speaker 5: Golf is the most unique to bet on.

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Speaker 6: It's kind of one of those things where you have

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Speaker 6: to really be invested the whole tournament, and I think

1300
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 6: the matchups are something that the sharp beetters really like

1301
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 6: to like to hammer as well. It's it's it's definitely

1302
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 6: maybe tennis is kind of another example where it's like

1303
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 6: head to head, but then you also have the overall

1304
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 6: outright markets like it's it's a very unique sport to

1305
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 6: bet on. Is it something that you know, the Masters

1306
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 6: obviously being the biggest handle of the year for golf,

1307
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 6: is that fair to say? Or are there other events,

1308
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 6: you know, throughout the course of the year that aren't

1309
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 6: majors that you really see a spike on or is

1310
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 6: it the Masters is kind of the super Bowl for

1311
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 6: golf betters?

1312
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 9: This is a super Bowl. This is the biggest golf

1313
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 9: handle we take all year. But you know, when the

1314
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 9: US Open comes around, depending on where it is, not

1315
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 9: even really you do see a big handle on the

1316
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 9: US Open. There's a lot of media push around it,

1317
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 9: so you'll see a big handle there, but the mastersing

1318
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 9: nothing comes close to the Masters.

1319
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 5: This is this?

1320
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 8: Is it?

1321
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? It really is. I mean it's golf seminal event.

1322
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,439
Speaker 8: Calling it the super Bowl I don't think is out

1323
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 8: of place or out of touch with its level of

1324
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 8: importance to not only you know, the golf fans, but

1325
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 8: the casual somebody who turns on golf for the majors

1326
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 8: like this does feel like the most important one now,

1327
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 8: all right, So you're a casual, you're somebody with a

1328
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,720
Speaker 8: betting app. You know, you got some scratch to spend.

1329
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 8: All of a sudden, you hear the greens are firming

1330
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 8: up with record tempts touching maybe potentially the low nineties

1331
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 8: in AUGUSTA.

1332
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: What does that mean for?

1333
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 8: You know, you know somebody who's willing to do twenty

1334
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 8: minutes of research before placing a bet, should you look

1335
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 8: into the better putters?

1336
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: You know? You know what I mean.

1337
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 8: I'm being serious, Like, is there an edge or an

1338
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 8: angle that somebody could find by by just looking into

1339
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 8: somebody's putting stats, for example, before placing a bet, you know,

1340
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 8: for some of the specials available on the bet MGM app.

1341
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,040
Speaker 9: Definitely you want to, especially at a gusta of all places,

1342
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 9: you need to be good with the flas stick there.

1343
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 9: So if if it's gonna be hot on the greens,

1344
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 9: the green's gonna be running fast. So you definitely want

1345
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 9: to be backing someone who's been a little you know,

1346
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 9: at better with the putter in their hand. So that's

1347
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 9: definitely how you should look at it there, especially when

1348
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 9: they're running this fast. They did that yesterday as well.

1349
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 3: M Seamus.

1350
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 4: I'm just curious this time of the sports betting calendar. Right,

1351
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 4: you do have final two days of the Masters, you

1352
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 4: have the NFL Draft coming up next, but that's not

1353
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 4: like sustained betting, if you will, right like this portion

1354
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 4: of the calendar. Are you more of an NBA better?

1355
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 4: Are you more of a baseball better, a soccer better?

1356
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 4: How do you get down this time of year?

1357
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 9: Soccer is my number one though after my club Arsenal

1358
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 9: lost today, I think I may just be permanently done

1359
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 9: with the sport.

1360
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: But for me it's soccer.

1361
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 9: You get into the business end of a lot of

1362
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 9: these leagues, the Champions League getting up to the semi finals.

1363
01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 9: You do have the NBA playoffs coming up, NHL playoffs

1364
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 9: coming next week, so it's definitely coming, you know, no football,

1365
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 9: no March madness. It does feel like there's a lull,

1366
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 9: but it's gonna be a lot of good sports on

1367
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 9: the next month or two with the playoffs coming up,

1368
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 9: you know, end of the soccer leagues and then you

1369
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 9: know primer for the World Cup. If you're trying to

1370
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 9: get into soccer. You can pick up some names you like,

1371
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 9: some teams, so definitely some opportunities to make some money.

1372
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 6: I think the World Cup is going to be a

1373
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 6: big betting event, especially with it being here in the States.

1374
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a massive windfall for

1375
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 6: you guys. You guys are going to see a ton

1376
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 6: of handle over the next few months, so leading up

1377
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 6: to the World Cup the Draft? Is this another one

1378
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 6: of those one off events, right, kind of like the

1379
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 6: Masters where it just it peaks and you get a

1380
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 6: lot of interest and then all of a sudden, you know,

1381
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 6: two three days it's over.

1382
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 5: Have you seen any.

1383
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 6: Interest in the NFL draft markets? I know that BEDEMGM

1384
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 6: and a lot of other sportsbooks have been much more

1385
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 6: conservative over the last few years.

1386
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 5: It's a very difficult event to book.

1387
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 6: You see a lot of information that gets tossed around

1388
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 6: and the odds move very quickly. Is it something that

1389
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 6: bedem GM's going to offer more markets over the next

1390
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 6: week as we get closer to draft night?

1391
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 5: And have you seen a lot of handle so far?

1392
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 9: In touching on the draft? I want to credit our

1393
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 9: trading team here. It looked like we were first to

1394
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 9: market with a lot of these markets nice coming up,

1395
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 9: but you are dead on I mean the twenty twenty draft,

1396
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 9: that's one where you saw a massive catalog and it

1397
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 9: was really bad for the books, and it was mainly

1398
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 9: because there was nothing else to gamble on. Really, So

1399
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 9: now you've seen that over the last few years where

1400
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 9: the market there was an immediate reaction where the markets

1401
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 9: just really dwindled in terms of headcount. Really now you're

1402
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 9: starting to see pick up a little bit. Nothing close

1403
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 9: to what we saw in twenty twenty, but I think

1404
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 9: you might see some more markets pop up closer to

1405
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 9: the draft, probably more player over unders what the selection

1406
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 9: would be. And in terms of handle, right now, there's

1407
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 9: definitely sharp action moving a lot of lines, but it

1408
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,599
Speaker 9: feels like nothing close to what we've seen prior. I

1409
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 9: feel like closer to the draft will get a lot

1410
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 9: more dark odds movement and definitely more handle people who

1411
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 9: love betting the draft. You know, when we get closer

1412
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 9: the week of and the rumor mail starts flying.

1413
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 7: Well, so we'll.

1414
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 9: See how that shakes out. I wonder it's a quality

1415
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,879
Speaker 9: of this draft will make an impact on the handle,

1416
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,719
Speaker 9: because it does feel like in terms of years past

1417
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:18,759
Speaker 9: guys coming out, it just feels like there's less buzz

1418
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 9: around a lot of guys, like it just seems that

1419
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 9: Mendoz has just kind of walked into the number one

1420
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,759
Speaker 9: overall slot, you know, so it'll be interesting to see.

1421
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 8: You know, we're just talking about how the Masters is

1422
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 8: the super Bowl of golf. You know, after the Super

1423
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 8: Bowl ends, there's a lot of people who run to

1424
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 8: the window to place the futures bet on the next

1425
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 8: year's Super Bowl champ, you know, because there is some

1426
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,639
Speaker 8: good carryover in the NFL. You know, there are certain

1427
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 8: teams where you know who their quarterback is going to be,

1428
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 8: you know who their head coach is going to be,

1429
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 8: and maybe due to injury or you know, unfortunate circumstances

1430
01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 8: in the playoffs, they missed it this year, but they

1431
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 8: got a good back next year. With college basketball, March

1432
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 8: Maddness just sort of said goodbye to us, with Michigan

1433
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 8: taking it all. Is there any value anymore in placing

1434
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:13,440
Speaker 8: this early of a futures bet considering player, you know, mobility,

1435
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 8: being able to transfer the nil money. I mean, you

1436
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 8: basically don't know what kind of team any of these

1437
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 8: college basketball teams are going to field next year, So

1438
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 8: is there any value in futures at this point in

1439
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 8: the calendar looking forward to next year's college basketball Tournament.

1440
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 9: The answer is yes, of course there is. I remember

1441
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 9: a few years ago I was able to get a

1442
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 9: ticket on San Diego State at two hundred and one

1443
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 9: and they made a crazy run to the champion.

1444
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1445
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: Wow.

1446
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 9: This past week I bet UVA around sixty to one.

1447
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 9: And that's mainly because I know a lot of these

1448
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 9: guys who are on this team are actually coming back

1449
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 9: next year. If you can find those, if you can

1450
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 9: find a slow moving number where you know this team's

1451
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 9: getting this guy back, the rumor goes flying about this

1452
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 9: guy transferring, Like I think. I also put down on

1453
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 9: Miami and US State mainly because of the recruiting class

1454
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 9: coming in for USC in Miami. I'm I'm banking on

1455
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 9: them spending some cash in the portal this year, and

1456
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 9: they had a good rebound year. They made the tournament

1457
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 9: this year, So I think there's absolutely value even this

1458
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 9: far out, almost a cavender year to the tournament. You

1459
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 9: just got to be really in tune with what the

1460
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,599
Speaker 9: insiders are saying about who's coming back, and then where's

1461
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 9: some guys might end up in the portal.

1462
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 4: Now, all right, Seamus, it's that time, Seamous special time.

1463
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 3: What do you have for us today.

1464
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 9: We're gonna hit the ice fellas. We're going to go

1465
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 9: on Long Island. We're taking to Ottawa Senators. I think

1466
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 9: they're around minus one thirty one thirty five, you can

1467
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 9: get there.

1468
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 7: Centers have been red hot.

1469
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 9: They have been one of the more stronger favorite teams

1470
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 9: of the betting market. You know, if you look at

1471
01:11:56,680 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 9: strength ratings, the betting market has loved this Senator team

1472
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 9: and they're starting to get home at the right time.

1473
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 9: I think this could be a fun team as a

1474
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 9: sleeper in the Eastern Conference. So we'll take the Senators

1475
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 9: on Long Island today against the Honors.

1476
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: All right, great stuff is always Seamous. We'll catch you soon.

1477
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 3: Hope you have a great day. Have a good one, guys,

1478
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 3: you too.

1479
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 4: There he is Seamous McGee, team lead of sports trading

1480
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:21,679
Speaker 4: at Bett MGM.

1481
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 2: I think that was his.

1482
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 6: First hockey pick ever, I think I don't know. I

1483
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 6: don't know if he's given out of hockey before.

1484
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, he went, yeah, that's right.

1485
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: I think you're right.

1486
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 5: I think he has given out a college hockey pick before.

1487
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 5: That's true.

1488
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:34,839
Speaker 2: That's a good yeah college.

1489
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what I used to walk to Islander

1490
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 8: games in nasau Coline.

1491
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: See him.

1492
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 5: I used to cover him.

1493
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 2: For News twelve.

1494
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 5: He's to love going on.

1495
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 6: I covered the Last Isles playoff game at the Barn

1496
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 6: between the old Barn between the Isles and the Caps.

1497
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 4: Alex Wi Betchkin, Well, you guys were talking about the

1498
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 4: NFL Draft. I wanted to sneak in one note here

1499
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 4: where Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza not going.

1500
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 3: To be at the draft?

1501
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 4: Not going to be and listen, I'm not sure trying

1502
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 4: to create a straw man argument. I don't know that

1503
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 4: he's getting much criticism for this, but I'll just say

1504
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 4: for anybody, like they've earned this day. Right If you

1505
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 4: want to go fishing with your dad, like Joe Thomas did,

1506
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 4: go right ahead. You want to be in Miami with

1507
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 4: your family instead of at Pittsburgh at the draft, like

1508
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza, be my guest, you've earned that day. I

1509
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 4: don't think there should be any thought of, well, this

1510
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 4: is good for the league that if you want to

1511
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 4: think that way, great, but I don't think there's any

1512
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 4: obligation to do that. The last top quarterback that was

1513
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 4: not attending the draft was Trevor Lawrence. I don't even

1514
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,639
Speaker 4: remember that, right, Like, so for anybody who's like, oh,

1515
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 4: he should be there, you're not even gonna remember that.

1516
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,919
Speaker 4: It's not gonna spruce up the telecast that much. Anyway,

1517
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,800
Speaker 4: He's earned this day. Totally fine by me that he's

1518
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 4: not there.

1519
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,879
Speaker 8: I completely agree, you know, I I look at the draft.

1520
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 8: This sounds so strange, This sounds so strange, but but

1521
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 8: follow me here. Almost like your wedding day, you know,

1522
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 8: I really, you know, for for a guy, for a guy,

1523
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 8: you don't, you don't really you don't really dream about

1524
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 8: your wedding like it's I'm sure there are some guys

1525
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 8: in our listening audience who do you know, But you know,

1526
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 8: typically that is you know something you know, a young

1527
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 8: girl or even you know, even a woman who's been

1528
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 8: searching for mister Wright. You know, they might catch themselves

1529
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,679
Speaker 8: daydreaming about the dress, or about the church, or about

1530
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 8: you know, the reception or whatever whatever that special day

1531
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 8: has in store for them. And and guys they typically

1532
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 8: don't have those machinations.

1533
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: They don't sit.

1534
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 8: Back and say, man, I wonder, I wonder what tucks

1535
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 8: I'm gonna wear?

1536
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,600
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, it's just not you know,

1537
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 2: but but and every wedding day no judgment.

1538
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 8: Whether you want to get married at a courthouse or

1539
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 8: if you want to get married with an annoy or

1540
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 8: miss you know, five hundred person gallery and a huge

1541
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 8: party reception.

1542
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,719
Speaker 2: Or if you want to have something quaint and intimate.

1543
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: It's up to you.

1544
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 8: And I feel the same exact way about Draft day,

1545
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 8: whether you want to be on stage with the NFL

1546
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 8: or you want to be in your backyard with their

1547
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:18,800
Speaker 8: high school football coaches, in those closest to you do

1548
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 8: it your way, it's your day.

1549
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 6: Nothing more to add except I've been married before, and

1550
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,520
Speaker 6: if and when I get married again.

1551
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 5: I don't really want it to be a big deal.

1552
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 6: I've done that already. Yeah, gone down that road. It

1553
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 6: was a gigantic party. It was just a party, and

1554
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 6: it was, you know, relatively meaningless because we got divorce

1555
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 6: very short time after that. So there's no there's no

1556
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 6: it's just a night. It's just a party. But but

1557
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 6: to her, it was like the world. So I agree

1558
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 6: on a percent with Rechar's assessment on marriage.

1559
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's funny, that's good Vegas style, you know.

1560
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just gonna go We're just gonna go to

1561
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 5: like y or something. Just get it over with.

1562
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 6: There.

1563
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 8: You got little White chapel, Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1564
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: All right.

1565
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 4: We've got Rich Orenberger, Penn State, All American, Jared Smith FSR,

1566
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:04,519
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1567
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:05,560
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1568
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1575
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 4: we will look at the prop betting market compare notes.

1576
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:31,960
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1586
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 3: Alrighty, let's do this.

1587
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 7: Player plays all right?

1588
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:08,680
Speaker 4: The prop betting market, jaredy, you have been feverishly anticipating this,

1589
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 4: been preparing like the hard working man that you are.

1590
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 3: What do you have for us today?

1591
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 5: Well, if you scroll so you got to dig for

1592
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 5: this one.

1593
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 6: But if you go to the masters tab on BETMGM

1594
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 6: and you scroll down, you will find Rory's third.

1595
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 3: Round score over under.

1596
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:28,320
Speaker 5: Seventy and a half. So it's a par seventy two

1597
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:28,919
Speaker 5: at Augusta.

1598
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 6: So seventy one would be a one under day and

1599
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 6: that would hit be over.

1600
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,479
Speaker 5: And I don't see Rory going much lower than that today.

1601
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:39,760
Speaker 5: I mean maybe two under.

1602
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 6: But I think the conditions to Brian's point, we talked

1603
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:44,600
Speaker 6: about this earlier. It was a very easy day to

1604
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 6: Augusta yesterday. I think they're gonna suck the moisture out

1605
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 6: of the greens. It's a very dry, hot day. I

1606
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be a much more difficult day than

1607
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,080
Speaker 6: what maybe.

1608
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 5: We saw yesterday. And Rory's sitting on this lead.

1609
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna not necessarily play it safe, but

1610
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to be firing at every green.

1611
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 5: I think bogie's and doubles hurt him a lot more

1612
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 5: than pars do.

1613
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:05,720
Speaker 6: So if he shoots seventy two even par that is

1614
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 6: over seventy and a half. Even if he shoots one

1615
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 6: under in red numbers at seventy one, I still would

1616
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 6: hit this bet so minus a dollar eighteen over seventy

1617
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 6: and a half for Rory's third.

1618
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 5: Round four at bet mg.

1619
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 8: All right, sorry, I had my microphone off. Goodness, gracious,

1620
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 8: I was so excited I forgot to even turn my

1621
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 8: microphone on. But listen, I love that you're on, Rory,

1622
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 8: and I'm glad that you chose that special available on

1623
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 8: the bet MGM mapp because I'm choosing a different one,

1624
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 8: and it's the birdie or better at least oh no,

1625
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,919
Speaker 8: excuse me, it's to make five or more birdies or eagles.

1626
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 8: So it's birdie better on five holes. Now, this sounds crazy.

1627
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 8: This sounds crazy considering the greens are going to be

1628
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,799
Speaker 8: scorching hop and but nobody's flat stick has been playing

1629
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 8: better than Rory's through the first thirty six and he's

1630
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 8: rewriting the record book right now in AUGUSTA the start

1631
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 8: he's only finished with four birdies to finish out his

1632
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 8: round in round two, So round three birdie or better

1633
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 8: on at least five holes, and you're getting that for

1634
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 8: a pretty decent price. What do we got minus won

1635
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 8: twenty five. So there's some value there if you believe

1636
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 8: in his putter.

1637
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 2: You gotta believe though.

1638
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: Wow, interesting, you guys are polar opposite over here.

1639
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well here video. You know, it could be both.

1640
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 2: It could be both.

1641
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 6: He could have five birdies and four bogies and then

1642
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 6: we hit.

1643
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: We believe that we both.

1644
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 4: Come on, let's hit it in the drink a couple

1645
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 4: of times on the same hole, you know, a couple.

1646
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 5: Of infusions on the way to the back time.

1647
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna look to the NFL draft. I'm gonna keep

1648
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 4: it very simple here. I think David Bailey will be

1649
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 4: the number two overall. Pick that minus in dollar forty

1650
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 4: five on vet MGM right now.

1651
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 3: Short, simple to the point. I think he's the.

1652
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 4: Better pass I know he's the better pass rusher in

1653
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 4: terms of production wise in college, in terms of reps

1654
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:10,160
Speaker 4: in college, rvel Reese is a hybrid guy. Rvel Reese

1655
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 4: is a pass rusher. At times he moonlights as a

1656
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 4: pass rusher, but he's oftentimes an off ball linebacker. I

1657
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 4: think that the Jets have to go with a dedicated

1658
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 4: pass rusher.

1659
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,920
Speaker 3: You gotta take David Bailey number two. I think they will.

1660
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:27,719
Speaker 4: So that's my profit up selection right there, David Bailey

1661
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 4: number two overall kicks.

1662
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,400
Speaker 6: As a Jets fan, I love it, which is why

1663
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 6: they won't pick that. So because it's a Jets fan,

1664
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 6: I think that's the personally speaking as a Jets fan,

1665
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 6: that's what I would do.

1666
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 5: That's the smart choice, which is why they won't do it.

1667
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, there.

1668
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 5: You go, because that's what the Jets love to do.

1669
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they love to But.

1670
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 5: I do agree with your session.

1671
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 3: It's sitting right there on a team. Let's let's not

1672
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: do that. Let's let's do something goofy right here? Yes

1673
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 3: the Jets.

1674
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 4: Ways, hey, maybe they will do that. Come up next

1675
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 4: to this guy stunk it up for the first time

1676
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 4: in a long time. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown

1677
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 4: presented by bet MGM.

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: Hope you're having a fantastic Saturday. Hope all is well.

1679
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 4: We got lots to do over here, fired up about

1680
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 4: all of it, and we will get to a guy

1681
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 4: at the Masters who's stunk it up and he normally

1682
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 4: doesn't do that whatsoever, that in just a couple of

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1691
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 4: our guy, Scotty Scheffler normally don't say this, especially at

1692
01:21:52,479 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 4: the Masters, stunk it up pretty good for his standards, right,

1693
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 4: Like most people would be like that, it's a pretty

1694
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 4: good round, Like not for him, seventy four two over par.

1695
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 4: You're not used to seeing Scotty struggle like that. It's

1696
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 4: his first over par round in the last three years

1697
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:10,600
Speaker 4: at the Masters.

1698
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 3: He had two golf balls into the water.

1699
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 4: You're just like, who kidnapped Scotty Scheffler? What is going

1700
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 4: on over here? But he's got a lot of work

1701
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 4: to do. He's tied right now for twenty fourth and

1702
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 4: you're looking yesterday four bogies as a rough day man,

1703
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 4: rough day two over. So Scotty Scheffler going down the

1704
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 4: leaderboard after day one. I think he was still top

1705
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 4: ten right around seventh if memory serves correctly. But rough

1706
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 4: day yesterday for Scotty Scheffler. And the question is if

1707
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 4: this is a challenging day with firm greens and all that,

1708
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 4: is it going to be more of the same. Is

1709
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 4: he gonna struggle again for a second straight day.

1710
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, you know he did struggle reading the greens.

1711
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 8: So it wasn't just about some water holes on par fives.

1712
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:58,679
Speaker 8: It was also you know, there were just some missed

1713
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,680
Speaker 8: opportunities on the greens at Augusta to show off in

1714
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 8: showcase what he's typically able to do, which is whether

1715
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:13,719
Speaker 8: he is leading a tournament or he is applying pressure

1716
01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 8: to the leader in the tournament, Scotty Scheffler rarely looks flummixed.

1717
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 8: There's rarely those moments where you're like, oh wow, you

1718
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 8: know he just put through the line or oh wow,

1719
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 8: he just misread that green.

1720
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,639
Speaker 2: And that was the most stunning part of the story.

1721
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 8: It's also equally stunning that he had this streak of

1722
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 8: tournaments where he didn't shoot over par So it's kind

1723
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,520
Speaker 8: of amazing to have that level of consistency.

1724
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 2: But he he was performing at almost a Tiger Woods.

1725
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 8: Esque consistency over the past two golf seasons now, and

1726
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 8: that's that stunning in its own right. So what, Scotty Scheffler,

1727
01:23:58,240 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 8: are we going to get round one?

1728
01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: Around two? Scottie Scheffler will see.

1729
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 8: Also, you gotta fall back on what you know about

1730
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 8: this guy over the past couple of years now, he's

1731
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 8: been he's been mister consistency.

1732
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: So look with with the.

1733
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 8: Stakes higher, a moving day, with you know, this being

1734
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 8: a familiar course to him now more so than well,

1735
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 8: I shouldn't even say more so, because the Masters is

1736
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 8: an interesting tournament with exemptions and stuff like that. There's

1737
01:24:25,960 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 8: a lot of talented golfers in the field who have

1738
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 8: seen this course many, many times, so it's it's.

1739
01:24:32,479 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 2: A little bit different.

1740
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 8: But his level of experience, his level of consistency, I

1741
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 8: think he figures it out today and the better golf

1742
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 8: golfers typically prevail. When the course conditions get worse for golf,

1743
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:49,400
Speaker 8: it's gonna be like putting on a glass coffee table today.

1744
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 8: And I think we're going to see a massive fall

1745
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 8: off and and some players really you know, who are

1746
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 8: just trying to eke out a tournament, really really separate.

1747
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 8: The cream will rise to the top, and I think

1748
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 8: Scheffler will be a part of that that rise.

1749
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 6: He's a fantastic putter, and he has not putt it

1750
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 6: well this week, and I think that's right. And we

1751
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 6: talk about to me like he's he's lost over a

1752
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 6: stroke on the greens this week. That's crazy. That's crazy

1753
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 6: to me. When he won the tournament a couple of

1754
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 6: years ago, he was a plus a stroke on the greens,

1755
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,799
Speaker 6: about three quarters of a stroke.

1756
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 5: And when I'm trying.

1757
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 6: To figure out who is going to play well on

1758
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 6: any given day on the golf tournament, you know, on

1759
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 6: the golf course, I tend to use putting as the pendulum,

1760
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 6: Like if you're striking it well, that to me is

1761
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 6: pretty consistent. He's been really good off the tea this week.

1762
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 6: He's been pretty good around the greens. He's top ten

1763
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,960
Speaker 6: strokes gained tea to green, But he can't put to

1764
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 6: save his life this week. Well, that's not the Scottish

1765
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 6: Scheffler that we know, and sometimes this might sound weird.

1766
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 6: Sometimes when the greens are playing easier than expected, that

1767
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 6: is just as difficult as when the greens are playing

1768
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 6: harder than expected. What do I mean by that? If

1769
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,400
Speaker 6: you are expecting the putt to break significantly and it

1770
01:26:08,439 --> 01:26:11,720
Speaker 6: doesn't because the greens are playing slower, that can be

1771
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 6: hard to read as well. So it's kind of this

1772
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 6: weird all right. If they're playing too fast, so that

1773
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 6: obviously is difficult, and if they're playing too slow, well,

1774
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 6: then the players have to adjust for that as well,

1775
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 6: and that can be difficult sometimes as well.

1776
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,160
Speaker 5: So I think when.

1777
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 6: We get back to the very difficult putting conditions which

1778
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 6: we all expect to take place today, that might actually

1779
01:26:34,120 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 6: help Scotty get his putting back on track, because sometimes

1780
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,400
Speaker 6: it's like it's like the Three bears, right, when the

1781
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 6: porridge is too hot and when the porridge is too cold,

1782
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 6: either way it's bad. You want it to be just right.

1783
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 6: So we'll see what the vibe is on the greens today.

1784
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 6: But out of ninety one golfers in the field, Scotty

1785
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 6: Scheffler fifty fourth strokes gained on the greens we don't

1786
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 6: expect that to be middle of the pack in terms

1787
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 6: of his putting, so would expect his putting to improve.

1788
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,719
Speaker 6: And if it does, I don't think he's gonna catch Rory,

1789
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 6: but he could definitely finish in the top five.

1790
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 3: Yeah he could.

1791
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 4: So good news, bad news for Scotti Scheffler. So I

1792
01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 4: short changed him. After day one he was actually tied

1793
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 4: for fourth. He was up in the top five after

1794
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 4: day one shot minus two. That first day he was tied.

1795
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 4: He was alongside Justin Rose and Shane Lowry tied for fourth.

1796
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 4: Now here's where it goes bad. Here's the bad news

1797
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 4: for Scotty Scheffler because of yesterday's stinkfest for his standards

1798
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,679
Speaker 4: right two over par So now he's tied for twenty fourth.

1799
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 4: He went from tied for fourth to tied for twenty

1800
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,719
Speaker 4: fourth after yesterday's performance. And by the way, the guys

1801
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 4: he was tied with after round one, Justin Rose and

1802
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 4: Shane Lowry, they're still tied for fourth place right now.

1803
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 4: Both of those guys are minus five while Scotty is

1804
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 4: at even par So we're talking a five stroke difference

1805
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 4: between Justin Rose and Shane Lowry compared to Scotty Scheffler.

1806
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 4: So yesterday was a really bad day. It doesn't sound

1807
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: that bad. Where're like plus two. I mean, they could

1808
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 4: have been worse than that. It's not the worry. It

1809
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 4: wasn't plus eight. He wasn't plus a snow man, you're

1810
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 4: plus two. And the competition is this stiff. Yeah, you're

1811
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 4: gonna lose twenty spots. That's the way it goes at

1812
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 4: the Masters.

1813
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

1814
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna throw in a little nuance here because

1815
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 8: I think it's appropriate. He just recently had his second kid,

1816
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 8: you know, welcome baby Remy to the world. It was

1817
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 8: March twenty seventh where he and his wife met their

1818
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 8: newest edition. And you know, this is just speaking from

1819
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 8: the familial standpoint, being a father and understanding like the

1820
01:28:42,640 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 8: world changing.

1821
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 2: Event that it is to have a kid.

1822
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 8: Even after having your first, you don't really understand how

1823
01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 8: it could get much better, And then it does where

1824
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 8: you don't really understand if it's going to impact you

1825
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 8: quite the same way the first one did. And you know,

1826
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 8: there's nothing like the first time, right like in you know,

1827
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 8: in most things, but like when it comes to a kid,

1828
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 8: that's that's especially true. But you think you've got it,

1829
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,960
Speaker 8: like this fatherhood thing, You think you kind of have

1830
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 8: it figured out, and then you add a second and

1831
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 8: you're like, whoa, the paradigm has shifted again.

1832
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 2: Did not expect it.

1833
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 8: And to have that so close to his teeing off

1834
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 8: at the most important tournament of his year, I'm sure

1835
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 8: the Masters, like many golfers, holds a very special place

1836
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 8: in his heart.

1837
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 2: And going to Augusta.

1838
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 8: And performing at a high level, especially after having such

1839
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 8: a moving event in your life, where it does put

1840
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,080
Speaker 8: a lot of things in perspective. Children have a way

1841
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 8: of making everything else seem foolish and silly as an endeavor.

1842
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1843
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 8: They have this way of taking your life, flipping it

1844
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 8: upside down and making you think like nothing's more important

1845
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 8: than this kid, nothing's more important than this family, and

1846
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 8: it should feel that way, and if you're a good dad,

1847
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 8: you should feel that way. So there's a little bit

1848
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 8: of you know, if you're having a good day or

1849
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,960
Speaker 8: a bad day on the course, you're almost like, well, well.

1850
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 2: The hell with it, I mean, what does it all matter? Anyways?

1851
01:30:11,479 --> 01:30:14,639
Speaker 8: As long as that kid is breathing and healthy at

1852
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 8: his mother's side right now, everything's fine, and so there's

1853
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:24,360
Speaker 8: a little bit of a competitive edge shift that could

1854
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 8: have occurred between the last time we saw Scheffler and

1855
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 8: this time that we're seeing Scheffler. I just want to

1856
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 8: throw that in there, because I know how it feels.

1857
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 8: I've never golfed at Augusta, but I can imagine after

1858
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:41,679
Speaker 8: having such an important event in your life, golfing within

1859
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 8: a week or two of that event, it has to

1860
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 8: change the way you're feeling on the course a little bit.

1861
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:53,439
Speaker 6: Guys, golf is really hard, the hard it's really hard sport.

1862
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,400
Speaker 6: And Scott he's been playing it at a level that

1863
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 6: most people will never even get close to reaching. And

1864
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 6: it's just hard to make that level. I mean, this

1865
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 6: is a guy that has won multiple majors over the

1866
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 6: last few years. He's been arrested, he's been behind bars

1867
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 6: for one of that. Like, it's just it's he's he's

1868
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 6: been through a lot. I'm not I would not be

1869
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 6: surprised if he struggled a little. I mean, this is

1870
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 6: a guy that won two majors last year PGA and

1871
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 6: the Open Championship.

1872
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:24,440
Speaker 5: So and he finished T. Four in the in the Masters.

1873
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 6: Like, it's just it's hard to maintain that level, not

1874
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,760
Speaker 6: like Tiger what what Tiger was able to do at the.

1875
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:31,719
Speaker 5: Peak of his career.

1876
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:34,599
Speaker 6: And people forget because we have a very short attention

1877
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 6: span in sports and in life, and it's in Recncy

1878
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 6: biased and he hadn't won a major in a long time,

1879
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 6: and he's had a lot of, you know, tough things

1880
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 6: happened in his life recently off the course, so we

1881
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,200
Speaker 6: kind of forget just how dominant Tiger Woods was. That's

1882
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 6: where Scotty was for a good portion of of the

1883
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, twenty four, twenty five season.

1884
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 5: Like untouchable type stuff. That is not sustainable.

1885
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 6: So I think for for Scotty just to have an

1886
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 6: average round at Augusta, like, I think we should give

1887
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 6: him a break because it's just it's been it's been

1888
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 6: an unbelievable run. It's been an unbelievable run for him.

1889
01:32:10,520 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 6: Again in the last two years. He won the Masters

1890
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,680
Speaker 6: in twenty four, he won the PGA last year and

1891
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,840
Speaker 6: the Open last year, and then he finished fourth in

1892
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 6: the Masters last year. Like that's incredible, Like just that

1893
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 6: stretch of two years is a career.

1894
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 5: For most guys. And he also won the Masters in

1895
01:32:25,439 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 5: twenty two.

1896
01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 6: So I just think we need to, you know, understand

1897
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 6: that the expectations for Scotty are always going to be

1898
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:33,519
Speaker 6: sky high.

1899
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 5: So when he has one of.

1900
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 6: These events where he's just kind of average and he

1901
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 6: finishes in the top twenty of a major, we're like,

1902
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 6: is everything okay with Scotty? Like, It's just it's a

1903
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 6: really tough game. It's a really hard game to maintain

1904
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 6: that level of dominance for a long stretch of time.

1905
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 3: There's no doubt.

1906
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 4: The only thing I would say is, I'm just really

1907
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 4: curious where it goes from here, yeacause just the psychology

1908
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 4: of sports is always fascinating to me.

1909
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 3: Whatever sport we're talking about.

1910
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 4: We're talking about a NBA three point shooter, he misses

1911
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 4: three threes in a row, what's his mentality? Is it

1912
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 4: the next one's going in? Or is it like I

1913
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 4: should pass? I can't buy a shot right now, you

1914
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean? So for Scotty, as well decorated

1915
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 4: as he's been and as much as he crushed it

1916
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,640
Speaker 4: last season, to have a down round like this, his

1917
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 4: worst and his only overpart round over the last three

1918
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 4: years at the Masters, where does it go from here?

1919
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:31,120
Speaker 4: Does he just come out full force and look like

1920
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 4: Scotty today or is it a little bit more of

1921
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 4: the same where he's just pressing. You saw that yesterday, right,

1922
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,719
Speaker 4: You don't see Scotty Scheffler hid it twice in the drink.

1923
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 4: You saw it yesterday. And that, to me is a

1924
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,480
Speaker 4: guy who's pressing. That's a guy who knows how talented

1925
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 4: he is. He knows what he can do on a

1926
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 4: golf course, and he's trying to will it to happen,

1927
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 4: and sometimes that could be the worst thing you do

1928
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 4: on a golf course. So I'm really curious just the

1929
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 4: psychology and where it goes these next two days for Scotty,

1930
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 4: because yeah, it's not the end.

1931
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 2: Of the world.

1932
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 4: It's one bad round at the Masters, but it's just

1933
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,920
Speaker 4: so uncommon. We're not used to seeing that, and I

1934
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 4: don't think that it's irresponsible to wonder where it goes

1935
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 4: from here, Especially on a day like today where the

1936
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 4: greens are.

1937
01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:16,639
Speaker 3: Firm, it's gonna be really, really tough.

1938
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a tough go out there, even if

1939
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 4: you're Scottie Scheffler. So to have a day like he

1940
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 4: did yesterday and a lot of people be anticipating, all.

1941
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:25,080
Speaker 7: Right, here we come.

1942
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,760
Speaker 4: He's gonna be punching right back today. I don't know

1943
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 4: that it happens today, Yeah I will.

1944
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make a comparison.

1945
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 8: That's that probably makes sense for a lot of people

1946
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 8: out there.

1947
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 2: When when you're up.

1948
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:41,439
Speaker 8: Big in Vegas, or if you've ever gone to a

1949
01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:45,639
Speaker 8: casino and you know, whatever your game is, roulette, blackjack, craps,

1950
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,639
Speaker 8: it doesn't matter. You all of a sudden have five

1951
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:51,679
Speaker 8: hundred extra dollars in your pocket. Maybe it's maybe your

1952
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 8: your low stakes better, maybe it's one hundred dollars extra

1953
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,679
Speaker 8: in your pocket and you're like, WHOA, Like, okay, I've

1954
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 8: got a little weight to me. Now I'm walking a

1955
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 8: little differently, I'm talking a little bit differently. I'm feeling

1956
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:06,200
Speaker 8: a little bit better about this. The funny thing about

1957
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 8: my brain and I think this is tied to my past.

1958
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 8: As you know, an athlete is. I try not to

1959
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 8: let the winds affect me either. So that old adage

1960
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 8: of playing with house money, I try never to act

1961
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 8: like I'm playing with someone else's money when I have

1962
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 8: somebody else's money.

1963
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 2: In my pocket.

1964
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 8: So the approach needs to stay, you know, on on

1965
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:33,599
Speaker 8: on you know, on on.

1966
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 2: The path that I was on prior to the wins.

1967
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 8: Like you know when they say, oh, this poker players

1968
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 8: on tilt getting a little wild with the way he's

1969
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:45,360
Speaker 8: playing certain hands, you know, especially when you're watching hold

1970
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 8: him tournaments and stuff like that, where there's cameras, there's

1971
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:49,639
Speaker 8: a lot of eyes, there's a lot of pressure.

1972
01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 2: When you're on tilt.

1973
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:54,679
Speaker 8: It means you're playing differently because the circumstances have suddenly changed.

1974
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,480
Speaker 8: The best players in the world, whether it's a gambler

1975
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 8: or it's an athlete professionally or otherwise, are the athletes

1976
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:08,040
Speaker 8: or the players who can, regardless of the circumstance, play

1977
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:11,719
Speaker 8: the game just like they would regardless.

1978
01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 2: Of the circumstance. So Scotty, you know, to put it

1979
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 2: in the.

1980
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,200
Speaker 8: Parlance, I was just borrowing for a second, is sort

1981
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,599
Speaker 8: of playing with house money.

1982
01:36:20,920 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 2: Now, I know, Brian, you don't like that. Oh, I know,

1983
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 2: it's a sore spot. But but but what.

1984
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:30,639
Speaker 8: I'm saying is, look, he's already, he's there, Like he's

1985
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 8: one of the best golfers who's ever golfed ever, in

1986
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 8: the history of golf ever, you know, And it's like,

1987
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 8: so when you're at this level, you can either do

1988
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 8: this one of two ways. Either you can chase or

1989
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 8: you can you can use that mentality where regardless of

1990
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 8: the circumstances, I'm gonna show up and I'm gonna I'm

1991
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 8: not going to change my approach because I shot a

1992
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 8: seventy two or I shot a sixty seven.

1993
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 2: Like I'm the approach is the approach, trust the process.

1994
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 8: So I think even given the down round, I think

1995
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 8: we're gonna see a very measured Scottie Scheffler. He's gonna

1996
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 8: go out there, he's gonna play his game, whether it

1997
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 8: looks conservative to the onlooker or it looks like he's

1998
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 8: pressing to the onlooker. From an analyst standpoint, I think

1999
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 8: between the ears, all he's thinking is the next shot,

2000
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 8: the next shot.

2001
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 2: Focus on this? All right? Par three? What what quadrant

2002
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,639
Speaker 2: of the green am miaming for? All right?

2003
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:25,240
Speaker 9: Uh?

2004
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 2: Par five? Dog leg left?

2005
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 8: Is this the whole that I make up a stroke on? No,

2006
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,800
Speaker 8: it's not time. I'm gonna I'm gonna lay up. This

2007
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:38,599
Speaker 8: is going to be a par birdie and it's gonna

2008
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 8: it's gonna be based off of my approach. Shot Like

2009
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 8: you know those calculations. I don't think change based on

2010
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 8: the day he had the day before.

2011
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 5: I'm gonna read you his quote. You know.

2012
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 6: He did an interview before the Open Championship at Royalport

2013
01:37:54,600 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 6: Rush last year, a tournament that he won. By the way,

2014
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 6: this is not a fulfilling life. It's fulfilling from the

2015
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:02,720
Speaker 6: sense of accomplishment, but it's not fulfilling from a sense

2016
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 6: of the deepest places of your heart. It's something that

2017
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 6: I wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like showing

2018
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 6: up with the Masters every year. Why do I want

2019
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 6: to win this golf tournament so badly? Why do I

2020
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 6: want to win the Open Championship so badly? I don't know,

2021
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 6: because if I win, it's gonna be awesome for two minutes.

2022
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 6: Is it great to be able to win tournaments and

2023
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,320
Speaker 6: to accomplish the things that I have in the game

2024
01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 6: of golf. Yeah, it brings tears to my eyes just

2025
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 6: to think about, because I've literally worked my entire life

2026
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 6: to be good at this sport. To have that kind

2027
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 6: of sense of accomplishment.

2028
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:28,679
Speaker 5: I think is a pretty cool feeling.

2029
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 6: I think Scotty is one of the most emotionally intelligent

2030
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 6: athletes that I've ever watched.

2031
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 5: I honestly believe that.

2032
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 6: I mean, this is a guy again that was arrested

2033
01:38:38,040 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 6: before the US opened a couple of years ago and

2034
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 6: came back from that and won majors after that. Like

2035
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 6: it just I think he has an incredible and you

2036
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 6: have to be to be a golfer because you're out

2037
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 6: there and you're between your ears and it's just.

2038
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 5: You out there.

2039
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 6: I think he has an unbelievable sense of emotional intelligence,

2040
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 6: and I don't think one round, one bad round, and

2041
01:38:58,080 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 6: I guess is gonna deter him or shape cam in

2042
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 6: any way. I don't know if he's going to win

2043
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 6: another major. Probably will, but I think he is in

2044
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:10,759
Speaker 6: the upper echealon of emotional intelligent athletes that I've ever watched,

2045
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 6: especially in the sport of golf, and I'm rooting for

2046
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 6: him every.

2047
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 3: Week I hear you.

2048
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 4: Last thing I'll add real fast is I think that

2049
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 4: pressing is a really interesting thing, regardless of what sport

2050
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 4: you're talking about. Actually, basketball comes to mind. Steve Fisher,

2051
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 4: remember the coach of the Fab five and beyond went

2052
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 4: to San Diego State after that, but I think he

2053
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 4: compared the Fab five they were just trying so hard

2054
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:39,759
Speaker 4: to win a championship. He said, it's like a feather

2055
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 4: floating through the air. Instead of letting it fall into

2056
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 4: your hand, you're trying to grab it. You're trying to

2057
01:39:45,240 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 4: and it's floating away. Even when that's the worst thing

2058
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 4: you can do is press at times, and I think

2059
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 4: for golf, that's certainly the worst thing that you can do.

2060
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:58,120
Speaker 4: Bryceon De'shamba was pressing this whole tournament, right triple bogey

2061
01:39:58,160 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 4: on eighteen. He didn't make the cut. Scotti Scheffler was

2062
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:04,640
Speaker 4: pressing yesterday. The quote that you read, Jared, that's a

2063
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 4: guy who hasn't pressed hardly ever, right like, and he's

2064
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 4: just let his talent do its thing and he's not

2065
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 4: pressing to a fault. We'll see if he can regain

2066
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 4: that today because he was pressing yesterday. There's no doubt

2067
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 4: about that, and I think that got into his way.

2068
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 8: All right, We've got yeah, go ahead, yeah, sorry, you

2069
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 8: know what you just that that Steve Fisher quote. It's

2070
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 8: so funny that you mentioned that because I've interviewed Steve

2071
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 8: Fisher many times and I wouldn't say we're friends, but

2072
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 8: I see him. I see him often because he's around

2073
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,879
Speaker 8: San Diego. His kid still works with the basketball program,

2074
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 8: and obviously Brian Dutcher, his protege, has become the head

2075
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 8: coach of the Aztecs basketball team. So Steve Fisher is

2076
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 8: somebody who I've looked to his words in the past

2077
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 8: and thought to myself, like, if you can learn anything

2078
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,799
Speaker 8: from somebody, Steve's a pretty good guy. And that feather

2079
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,479
Speaker 8: quote I've literally used it, yeah, with with my kids.

2080
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:00,360
Speaker 8: With my children, I love it, and I always think about,

2081
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:04,600
Speaker 8: like with leadership or or even with like you know it,

2082
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 8: what it takes to be a man, because I'm raising two.

2083
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 2: Boys, Like it's all about composure.

2084
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 8: Like nobody's running to the person losing their mind in

2085
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 8: any major situation.

2086
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 2: If there's an emergency, who are you trusting.

2087
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 8: The guy who's going, oh my god, nobody panic?

2088
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:25,720
Speaker 2: Everybody follow me and breaks a window.

2089
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 8: And start you know, he's bleeding and you're like, why

2090
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 8: is there so much blood? I mean, it's just a

2091
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 8: fire in the kitchen. Or you trust in the person

2092
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 8: goes all right, we got this. Listen, there's an exit

2093
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,400
Speaker 8: out back. I called the cops. Ready, the police are

2094
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 8: on their way. Everything's fine. You're going with that guy.

2095
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:44,920
Speaker 8: Composure is such an important part of life, and it

2096
01:41:45,360 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 8: can be so difficult to in your bodies. Sometimes you

2097
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,799
Speaker 8: have to train your body to calm down. Your brain

2098
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 8: is in control of the thing, but sometimes you feel

2099
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 8: it in your legs.

2100
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,200
Speaker 2: It's so hard not to press.

2101
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 8: But yeah, Scotti shall one of those guys who seem

2102
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 8: to understand composure over the course of his career.

2103
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 2: So if there's a.

2104
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:06,840
Speaker 8: Dog you want to back to have a good day,

2105
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 8: round three, Scheffler might be that guy.

2106
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,439
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Speaker 10: through the first two days of the Masters. He steps

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Speaker 10: in to try to complete a record setting performance through

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Speaker 10: thirty six holes. Outside the hole he looks putter back

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Speaker 10: and through and on its way, and it's at.

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Speaker 7: The bottom Rory, not Gooia.

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Speaker 10: The closing Birdie is reached twelve under par He leads

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Speaker 10: by six. That's the largest thirty six hole lead in

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Speaker 10: Master's history.

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Speaker 4: So I saw something and I wanted to throw it

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Speaker 4: your way because the storyline itself is like okay.

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Speaker 3: But if you dig deeper, that's where the gold is.

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01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 4: So the Houston Texans they have exercised the twenty, twenty

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Speaker 4: and fifty year options on the contracts of quarterbacks c J.

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Speaker 3: Stroud and defensive end Will Anderson.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so they're they've exercised these deals for next year.

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01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 4: Now both are contract extension eligible right now. So the

2146
01:44:19,800 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 4: question we know they're extending Will Anderson junior. He's been fantastic.

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Speaker 1: C J.

2148
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 4: Stroud had an excellent rookie season. He's been mediocre since then.

2149
01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 4: He was a disaster in the playoff loss on the

2150
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 4: road against the Patriots through what four first half interceptions?

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Speaker 3: Brutal, just awful.

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Speaker 4: So the question is, would you even consider extending c J.

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01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 4: Stroud right now when you would get a bargain there's

2154
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 4: no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Let's say c J.

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01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 4: Stroud gets back to it, regains his form this next season,

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01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 4: Well you're talking a ton of money if you extend

2158
01:44:56,280 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 4: him after getting more information and he plays well. There's

2159
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 4: an argument where if you do believe in this guy

2160
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 4: and you think he's gonna bounce back, and you think

2161
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 4: he does have the long term goods, now would be

2162
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 4: the right time to extend him.

2163
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 3: I need more information.

2164
01:45:10,960 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 4: If it costs me a little bit of money, fine,

2165
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 4: but I'm willing to pay for that information because he

2166
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 4: was just that bad in that playoff loss in particular,

2167
01:45:19,520 --> 01:45:21,800
Speaker 4: and he didn't have a good season anyway. It wasn't

2168
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 4: like this one off. He's been regressing ever since that

2169
01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 4: Studley rookie season. So I need to see more. Rich,

2170
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 4: What do you say, would you extend him right now?

2171
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 4: Or do you need to see more as well?

2172
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 8: Okay, So to put it in you know, dollar and

2173
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 8: cents terms, if you pay the fifth year option, you're

2174
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:45,520
Speaker 8: essentially paying for time, which is inarguably the most valuable

2175
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:49,759
Speaker 8: resource we all have in general, Like there's no way

2176
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:53,560
Speaker 8: for us to create more time in our lives or professionally,

2177
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 8: you know, because the clock is always ticking, especially in

2178
01:45:56,160 --> 01:46:00,200
Speaker 8: a performance based industry like the NFL. So if you're

2179
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 8: sitting in the front office in Houston and you're pitching

2180
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:08,440
Speaker 8: to the owner, you know, a very strategic and very certain.

2181
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 2: Destination like CJ.

2182
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 8: Stroud's our guy, and here's the reason why, and you

2183
01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 8: lay it all out, you know your owner is going

2184
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 8: to say, you know what, I may disagree with some

2185
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,519
Speaker 8: of the points, maybe even the broader point that CJ.

2186
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 8: Stroud is the guy, but I love his certainty and

2187
01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 8: I trust him, and so we're going with that. When

2188
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 8: you say, hey, boss, look we like him. But and

2189
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 8: then you have this longer, more circuitous conversation about you know,

2190
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 8: the half in, half out portrayal that you're giving, and

2191
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 8: you basically say, I know, it's not what anybody wants,

2192
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:54,240
Speaker 8: and it's going to drag on and exacerbate negotiations, and

2193
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 8: it potentially could cost us more money in the future,

2194
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,320
Speaker 8: because if he ends up having a really solid twenty

2195
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:02,720
Speaker 8: twenty six for us, you know what that means. But

2196
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 8: we got we gotta just sort of foot the bill

2197
01:47:07,040 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 8: to figure out whether or not this is our guys,

2198
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 8: you're at that financial crossroads, and so I'm sure there's

2199
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:16,559
Speaker 8: a lot of soul searching going on in the front

2200
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 8: office of the Houston Texans right now, because you want

2201
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:21,519
Speaker 8: to be able to speak with certainty. But I think

2202
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,880
Speaker 8: the smarter thing to do right now is to wait

2203
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 8: it out, to wait and see. I think that deadlines

2204
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:32,200
Speaker 8: create urgency. There is no major looming deadline here in

2205
01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 8: my opinion, and so I don't think you need to

2206
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:38,400
Speaker 8: make any sort of urgent decision here. CJ knows the sport,

2207
01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 8: he knows the business, he's a big boy. His agent

2208
01:47:41,240 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 8: certainly does. Whoever's representing him has been through this, I'm

2209
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 8: certain many times and understands. Look, when you are trending

2210
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 8: in the wrong direction, heading toward a major milestone moment,

2211
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:58,640
Speaker 8: your first contract negotiation of your NFL career at the

2212
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 8: highest paid position, everybody wants to make sure all teaser

2213
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:05,639
Speaker 8: cross and aeser dotted. And I don't think Stroud has

2214
01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 8: performed well enough for everybody to feel like the final

2215
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 8: edit on the draft has been made. And I'm not

2216
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:13,960
Speaker 8: even talking about the NFL Draft. I'm sort of using

2217
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:17,799
Speaker 8: the metaphor talking about preparing a report. You know this,

2218
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 8: this is an unfinished work, and so I need to

2219
01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,759
Speaker 8: see more. If I'm in the front office in Houston,

2220
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 8: I'm in the camp of I need.

2221
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 2: To see more before we make a long term commitment.

2222
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 5: I would agree.

2223
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 6: And I think the other factor that's looming here is

2224
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 6: you have a first year OC in Nick Keyley, and

2225
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,759
Speaker 6: I think this is the third offensive coordinator that CJ.

2226
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 5: Stroud's had in four years. That's tough.

2227
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:41,160
Speaker 6: I mean, I think Jalen Hurts has like got nine

2228
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,120
Speaker 6: ocs and is nine years over in NFL in college

2229
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 6: and that's pretty difficult too. But the fact that Nick

2230
01:48:47,720 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 6: Keyley comes in, he brings a lot of experience, really

2231
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 6: good career so far, really exciting offensive mind. I'm excited

2232
01:48:54,280 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 6: to see what he can do with CJ. Stroud, But

2233
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of uncertainty there and you're

2234
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,599
Speaker 6: getting like if you're the Texans, I mean, there's there's

2235
01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 6: definitely no.

2236
01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 5: Reason to rush this.

2237
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 6: Obviously Stroud wants the money. But the other side of

2238
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 6: this is if you catch lightning in a bottle with

2239
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 6: Kaylee this year and Stroud returns back to his rookie form,

2240
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 6: well then he just got paid even more next year.

2241
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 6: You know, like he's playing for his contract and it

2242
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 6: could go in the positive direction. It could go negative

2243
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden he's he's gone. But it

2244
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:27,719
Speaker 6: could go positive where Kaylee comes in and everything looks

2245
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 6: great and they figure out the offensive line and you know,

2246
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 6: you get some healthy running back some semblance of a

2247
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 6: running game to help this dude out, and we know

2248
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 6: the receivers are great, and all of a sudden, you've

2249
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 6: got yourself a fifty million dollar quarterback because he's proven it,

2250
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:45,799
Speaker 6: you know, on the last year of his deal, essentially.

2251
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:49,120
Speaker 6: So I think it is definitely a pressure point, Brian.

2252
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 6: It is one of the more intriguing pressure points at

2253
01:49:51,840 --> 01:49:52,759
Speaker 6: the quarterback position.

2254
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 5: Heading into this season.

2255
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 6: We'll be talking a lot about what the Texans do

2256
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 6: in the draft, how they address their offensive line, what

2257
01:49:58,360 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 6: that offense could look like under Kaylee coming in twenty

2258
01:50:00,920 --> 01:50:01,400
Speaker 6: twenty six.

2259
01:50:01,520 --> 01:50:03,559
Speaker 5: But I would not pull the trigger right now.

2260
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

2261
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 2: I would.

2262
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 4: Wait, I just I you know, everybody talks about the

2263
01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 4: discount you could get, Like if you extend a quarterback,

2264
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:14,120
Speaker 4: lit'sally say it's c J.

2265
01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:15,479
Speaker 3: Stroud and he.

2266
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 4: Performs very well, and you would get a discount. But

2267
01:50:19,120 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 4: there's a flip side of that. If he continues performing

2268
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 4: mediocre or less than average and you give him that

2269
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 4: much money, there's no discount. It's the opposite of a discount.

2270
01:50:31,720 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 4: So it's all about how well he performs going forward,

2271
01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 4: and you have to have serious doubts about him performing

2272
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 4: very well. Think about Nick Cassario. Remember when he was

2273
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:46,200
Speaker 4: at the NFL combine and he pushed back greatly.

2274
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 3: Someone was like, is c J. Stroud gonna be your quarterback?

2275
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:51,799
Speaker 3: He's like, yes, of course he is. That's a dumb question.

2276
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,800
Speaker 4: Basically I'm paraphrasing, but the file up should have been like,

2277
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 4: are you gonna extend him this offseason? Because that's what

2278
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,719
Speaker 4: really matters, right like that, if you're really that guy,

2279
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 4: you're extending him right now and saving yourself some money.

2280
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 4: But I don't anticipate a contract extension coming this offseason. Now,

2281
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 4: we save the best for last, which, as we all know,

2282
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 4: is the NBA.

2283
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 2: Right.

2284
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm curious what you think about this scenario.

2285
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,160
Speaker 4: I'll throw one at you because if you look at

2286
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 4: the race for the three seed in the West, so

2287
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 4: the Lakers they have a chance to get the three seed,

2288
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 4: they would have to beat the Jazz, which spoiler alert,

2289
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:30,360
Speaker 4: they will do. Right, They're gonna beat the Jazz. If

2290
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:31,840
Speaker 4: they want to beat the Jazz, they're going to beat

2291
01:51:31,880 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: the Jazz. If the Nuggets beat the Spurs, the Nuggets

2292
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,799
Speaker 4: would have the three seed, But if the Nuggets lose

2293
01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,479
Speaker 4: and the Lakers win, the Nuggets would fall to the four.

2294
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:47,639
Speaker 4: So the scenario is, do the Nuggets play their guys

2295
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 4: and try to win this game and get the three seed.

2296
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:54,439
Speaker 4: They rested their guys, all of their starters, Jokic, Aaron Gordon,

2297
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 4: all their main guys. They rested them last night, still

2298
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 4: beat the Memphis You know who they play? They played,

2299
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 4: Uh goodness, I'm having a senior moment over here. Hang on, yeah,

2300
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,479
Speaker 4: I was watching the game and they played a decent team.

2301
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:09,640
Speaker 7: Here.

2302
01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 3: Let me get it for you. I'm sorry, I apologize.

2303
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,400
Speaker 4: Let's see, because they covered I had them in the

2304
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 4: money line parlay. They played the thunder That's right. Okay,

2305
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,680
Speaker 4: see rested everybody too. So the Nuggets want do they

2306
01:52:21,720 --> 01:52:24,200
Speaker 4: arrest everybody again against the Spurs and say, we don't

2307
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 4: really care if we get the three or not.

2308
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 3: We'd rather be healthy for the playoffs.

2309
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 4: It's an interesting conversation because the three seed will get

2310
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,639
Speaker 4: the Minnesota Timberwolves, and and Rudy Gobert has just been

2311
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,639
Speaker 4: worn out by Jokich.

2312
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 3: So what do you think?

2313
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,960
Speaker 4: Do you think the Nuggets should play their main guys

2314
01:52:42,040 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 4: and go for the three seed?

2315
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 2: Rich?

2316
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean I think you kind of perfectly

2317
01:52:46,600 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 8: laid it out, you know, to put it in you know,

2318
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:57,720
Speaker 8: real simple terms. Avoiding Okac is the three seed strategic importance,

2319
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:01,719
Speaker 8: the valuable or I should say it's valuable is because

2320
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 8: even though like you said, beating Okac where everyone's resting starters,

2321
01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 8: that's a non starter for this conversation because we know

2322
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,640
Speaker 8: what Okac is and we know how they perform in

2323
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 8: the postseason. So yeah, I mean you can make the

2324
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:21,679
Speaker 8: case easily for you know, playing your starters, getting knocking

2325
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:25,599
Speaker 8: yourself into that three seed and avoiding Okac in the

2326
01:53:25,640 --> 01:53:29,680
Speaker 8: postseason and then also maintaining momentum is another case to

2327
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,400
Speaker 8: be made. The other flip side of that coin is

2328
01:53:32,479 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 8: health and freshness. With the playoffs starting April eighteenth, you know,

2329
01:53:35,880 --> 01:53:38,639
Speaker 8: when you rest your starters, this gives you a little

2330
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 8: bit of a longer on ramp for the slog, and

2331
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 8: it is a slog that is the NBA postseason. It

2332
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:49,560
Speaker 8: is long, the pressure is higher, everybody is playing like

2333
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 8: it matters more and including your players.

2334
01:53:53,280 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 2: And so if you try to imbue.

2335
01:53:55,800 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 8: The playoff mentality this early and you get the W

2336
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 8: and you knock out or you you you knock yourself

2337
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:08,040
Speaker 8: into the three seed, what does that mean?

2338
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 2: How does that project forward? It's one game.

2339
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 8: I don't know if it necessarily matters or it's that meaningful.

2340
01:54:15,920 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 2: But if you try and you lose and then you

2341
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 2: face OKAYC, what does that? Dude? Did so?

2342
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 8: I sort of look at it from a risk reward standpoint,

2343
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,640
Speaker 8: it feels like they're leaning in the direction of not

2344
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:31,919
Speaker 8: playing their starters anyways. And I think that's the message

2345
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 8: that was sent last night against Okac, So I think

2346
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 8: he kind of just got to stay that path and

2347
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 8: hope it's the right.

2348
01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:39,600
Speaker 2: One, agreed.

2349
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 6: And also, let's be honest, guys, if you play Okac

2350
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 6: in the semis or the conference finals, doesn't really matter.

2351
01:54:44,720 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 6: You're gonna, like Okac's going like this is the Oka

2352
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 6: Ce Invitational. You're gonna have to beat him eventually if

2353
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,120
Speaker 6: you want to win the if you want to win

2354
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 6: the West.

2355
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:58,640
Speaker 5: So I don't see the Spurs beating I don't see.

2356
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,920
Speaker 6: Anyone really, frankly beating Okay in a seven game series.

2357
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:02,000
Speaker 6: I really don't think it matters.

2358
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 5: So I probably would. I probably would rest everyone.

2359
01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,240
Speaker 6: I Mean, here's the stat that really just blew my

2360
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 6: mind that I saw Jim Reynolds tweet this out. Seventy

2361
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 6: one hundred and sixty six players will miss games because

2362
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 6: of injuries, could wind up being like one hundred and

2363
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 6: seventy five.

2364
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.

2365
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 6: Wow, Like, nobody plays, Nobody freaking plays. This is the

2366
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:26,360
Speaker 6: second to last night of the season and nobody is playing.

2367
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,200
Speaker 6: There's only like four hundred players in the NBA. A

2368
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 6: third of the league miss games yesterday.

2369
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 4: Crazy crazy yesterday it was one to seventy players missing

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01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 4: due to injury or sitting out. Buck seventy. That's crazy good,

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Speaker 4: this will be very fast. But there was a nugget

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Speaker 4: that I saw. I wanted to pass your way. So, okay,

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Speaker 4: see the Thunder. They have the best record in the

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Speaker 4: NBA for a second straight year. The last time that happened.

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Speaker 4: You have to go back to twenty eighteen nineteen and

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen twenty those two seasons, right, The last team

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Speaker 4: to have the best record in back to back.

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Speaker 3: Years was the Box. Think about that for a second.

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01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 4: That was six years ago, six years ago. Look at

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Speaker 4: them now, they're a freaking grease fire. Can you anticipate

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01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 4: six years from now? OKC is a grease fire. I

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01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 4: can't even wrap my mind around that. But that's reality

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01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,360
Speaker 4: for Milwaukee. That's a wild stat right there. That's pretty crazy,

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01:56:23,400 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 4: and it shows you how quickly things can change in

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Speaker 4: the NBA.

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Speaker 3: All Right, We've got rich.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next the Moment of Truth Rapid Fire, which

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Speaker 4: have a bushel of picks for you. We'll throw them

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Speaker 4: your way rapid fire style. Next, it is Fox Sports

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Speaker 4: All right, we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 7: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 3: All right, we start with you, Jared, what do you like.

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Speaker 6: We'll go one baseball to golf today. We'll start with

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01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,720
Speaker 6: the baseball. We're gonna go under seven and a half

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01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,080
Speaker 6: Marlins and Tigers. This is a dollar fifty or minus

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01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 6: dollar fifteen. Excuse me at bet MGM Chili day in Detroit.

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Speaker 6: Attempt him a forties. Not a great hitting day, especially

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01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 6: for an indoor team from South Florida. Jansen Junk Casey Meiser.

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01:58:27,480 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 6: Pitching matchup not exactly, you know, Cy Young versus Nolan Ryan.

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01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 6: But this Marlin's team really struggles against righties. They only

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Speaker 6: had two hits yesterday Detroit, one two nothing. I think

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01:58:35,880 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 6: we get another low scoring game today. I gave you

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Speaker 6: this during prop it up.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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01:58:39,560 --> 01:58:42,480
Speaker 5: I'm giving a tea again during rapid Fire. Rory third

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01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,680
Speaker 5: round score over seventy and a half.

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Speaker 6: That means seventy one or higher, so he can shoot

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Speaker 6: one under seventy one and this.

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Speaker 5: Bet still hits.

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01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,600
Speaker 6: He has been fantastic all week long, especially around the

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01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:55,400
Speaker 6: greens and with the flats that get that crazy chip

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01:58:55,480 --> 01:58:57,919
Speaker 6: in yesterday for a birdie. But he's been very inaccurate

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01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,840
Speaker 6: off the teeth thirty six in stroke gained off the tea,

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Speaker 6: So I think the driving really matters.

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01:59:02,480 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna think I think the putting, you know,

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Speaker 5: even out, and I think the driving is really important.

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Speaker 2: So we'll go ok.

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Speaker 6: Rory over seventy and a half hen Cameron Young over

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01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:12,839
Speaker 6: Jason Day. This is a three way matchup. Iyes lose

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Speaker 6: minus a dollar thirty five at at MGM. I love

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01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 6: Cameron Young this week. He also has not been putting

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01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 6: it well, but everything else has been great, so I

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01:59:20,360 --> 01:59:22,440
Speaker 6: think he straightened it out today against Jason Bury.

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Speaker 8: All Right, I'm on a little bit of a schneid

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01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 8: after the March tournament.

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Speaker 2: Ended, so we're gonna change things up.

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Speaker 8: I'm going all baseball tolls here today. All right, all right,

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Speaker 8: Pirates Cubs, give me under six and a half runs

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01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:39,600
Speaker 8: in that one. Look both strong starting pitchers getting the

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01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:42,800
Speaker 8: ball today, and we have low tempts at Wrigley and

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01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:45,640
Speaker 8: high wins. You know that makes for lower scoring games.

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Speaker 8: I got White Sox Royals under the nine runs there,

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01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 8: strong starter.

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Speaker 2: For the uh for the Royals.

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Speaker 8: The White Sox really continue to struggle offensively, so I

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Speaker 8: think this is gonna help keep the total well blown

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Speaker 8: nine runs. And then Diamondbacks versus Phillies, I'm going over

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Speaker 8: the nine.

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Speaker 2: Both of the starters today have really struggled.

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Speaker 8: This provides a pretty clear path for an over to hit,

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Speaker 8: so I'll take the over in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'll go quickly here. Let me start with

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Speaker 3: the NFL draft.

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Speaker 4: Gotta be patient because this doesn't happen for another week

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Speaker 4: and a half. I'm gonna go David Bailey number two overall,

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Speaker 4: pick minus a dollar forty five. I just think he's

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02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,120
Speaker 4: gonna be this election for the Jets, or if there's

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02:00:30,160 --> 02:00:33,000
Speaker 4: a trade. I think he's the best pass rusher in

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Speaker 4: this group. I think he'll go number two. Give me

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Speaker 4: Patrick Reid to shoot seventy one or lower today he's

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Speaker 4: been three. Like the first two days you co signed

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Speaker 4: that huh rich Yepice, I like you very good, yep.

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Speaker 7: And then I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna co sign with Jared's saying Rory McElroy, I thought

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Speaker 4: the same thing. I'm going over seventy and a half.

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Speaker 4: He's been five. He was five under first day, seven

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02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 4: under last yesterday. Just needs to be two under. I

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Speaker 4: smell a rat, I say over