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Speaker 1: the podcast BIPAC twelve Fans, four Pack twelve fans, where

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Speaker 1: things and no bias, no junk, just keeping it real. Ralph,

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Speaker 1: Let's start the day with the state of the pack

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Speaker 1: All right, my number six is USC. Um a little

430
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: bit of life injected into them with with with Jackson Dart.

431
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: I thought you looked fantastic. I thought he was a gamer.

432
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: I love war paint on a backup quarterback, So now

433
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I guess I have to be a Jackson Dart fan. Um,

434
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 1: they they really really rallied around Jackson Dart. Uh. Didn't

435
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: like Keaton Slovis's body language after getting benched, but then again,

436
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: the guy is sick of getting banged up back there,

437
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: and I don't blame him. Um, but that this team

438
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: needed a jolts of energy. Perhaps a new quarterback and

439
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: a new head coach is the thing that we'll get

440
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: them there. So I have them at number six, Arizona

441
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: State at number five. Still think they're a very strong

442
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 1: team that shot themselves. Um, you know, they really punished

443
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: themselves in this game with nineteen flags fifteen that were

444
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: accepted in four turnovers, including two turnovers. That just Ralph,

445
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: just give us the power rank is due. We're gonna

446
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: go over to games. Hey, you I watched the games.

447
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: I have something to say. If you don't have anything

448
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: to say, that's on you, man, Okay, I apologize. I'm

449
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: giving the why behind the what it's important for millennials.

450
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: I know you're a little bit older. I know you're

451
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: on the gen X and the only gen X or

452
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: who doesn't know who Nirvana is. Um wow, A fine

453
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: fine whatever Stanford is for Tanner McKee. Uh, that's my

454
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: reason for that. Three is U C l A because

455
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: they actually look good too. Is the combination of Fresno

456
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: State b y U in San Diego State that is

457
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: currently six and one against the PAC twelve almost seven

458
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: and oh and the number one is Oregon, who had

459
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: to come back in the fourth quarter to be Fresno State.

460
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: So that's and was up only seventeen to seven against

461
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: um little sisters of the Poor this week at half

462
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: and you gotta be that guy. I don't know. We

463
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: should call it the Pact Twell Rankings and take the

464
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: word power out though there is power there, dude, don't.

465
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: We can't be a true ful Debbie Downer. We do

466
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge what happened, but it's gonna get better.

467
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: The best player in the PAC twelve is Travis Dyan.

468
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: You don't even like him, No, he's not. Oh god,

469
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: I do like Travis Dye. Okay, So let's go through

470
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: the games this past week. Uh and there and this

471
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: is the last week where there's forty eleven games, so

472
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: so this is good good news. We'll hit these FCS joints. Uh,

473
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: first and quick, Utah State, I'm sorry Oregon State. At Utah,

474
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm sorry at Idaho. How did we do in that game?

475
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: We both got the spread that we invented, correct, and

476
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: then I think the over under we blew it because

477
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: it was forty two to nothing. Um uh yeah, this

478
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: was a bludgeoning. I did not watch this game the

479
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: second game, so I wasn't gonna want. I mean, Idaho's

480
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: best player, Hayden Hattan, I didn't think he had a

481
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: statistic in this game, so it was kind of pointless. Yeah.

482
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I didn't watch this game either. It like for for what?

483
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: All right, Um, next game up, Sacramento State in cow.

484
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: How do we do there? Uh? Sacramento State and Cal

485
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: We invented a line that was twenty four, so obviously

486
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: we blew that. You took the over. I took the under,

487
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: so you got that right? Um. I watched two quarters

488
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: of this game. Some of the throws Chase Carvers was

489
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: making was like he was just twine. He had no

490
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: respect for that defense whatsoever. Just loft in balls up

491
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: in the end zone. Um for for people to come

492
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: down with that, the offense looked good. I was really

493
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: confused as if the defense just got gassed at the end. Dude,

494
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the giving up set thirty points

495
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: the Sacramento State is not good and and people will

496
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: give you the oh it was the backups. Well, the

497
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: backups will eventually have to play because people get hurt.

498
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: So so I never bought into the oh it was

499
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: just the backups talk, because the backups matter. Those are

500
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: the people that are gonna come in when your players

501
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: get hurt inevitably. So sorry, yes, your backups giving up

502
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: points does matter. And this is three weeks in a

503
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: row that they've been thoroughly outplayed in the second half,

504
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: three weeks in a row, so that that that makes

505
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: for a trend. And I know that. I know that

506
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 1: Sacramento States head coach is a former cow quarterback, and

507
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: I know that it's you know, there's some you know,

508
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: conflicted Cow fans out there of like, well, he must

509
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: be really good, maybe you'll be our next head coach

510
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: or whatever, like, no, your team keeps gassing out in

511
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: the second half and that is not gonna be good.

512
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: Come Pack, twelve play yep, Northern Erazon. Actually no, let's look, look,

513
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: let's I forgot the other terrible game. Let's go to Oregon.

514
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: Uh Stony Brook, Oregon one to seven. Um, how do

515
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: we cut? How do we do on the line? On

516
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: this game? We came up with Oregon minus thirty six

517
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: with an over under a fifty four. I think the

518
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: total scores fifty five, So pretty good job of set

519
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: in the line. And then Oregon covered the thirty six. Yeah. Um,

520
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown got hurt. He maybe he should be back

521
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: this week against Arizona. You had Cavan Thibadeaux not play.

522
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: A bunch of Oregon had like half of their defense

523
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: starting defense not start the game. It was an atrocious

524
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: offensive first half, and but in the in the second

525
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: half they only allowed like six total yards offense in

526
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: the third quarter and shut them down in the fourth

527
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: and it was it was the way it should be

528
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: in the second half of this game. There wasn't a

529
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: lot to be learned. Yeah, Troy, Troy Franklin play played well. Yeah,

530
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: that that was kind of the bright spot. Oh and

531
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Baron McKinley too, who was packed well. Defensive player of

532
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: the week again. I I enjoyed seeing Ti Thompson gets

533
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: some run. Um. This reminded me a lot of last

534
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: week's a s u UNLV game, in which the first

535
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: half was uh, it seemed like um coaching staff was

536
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what it was they were playing with,

537
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: trying to learn their own players, and then once they

538
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: figured it out, it was it was a boat race

539
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: at the at the end and so um, yeah, I

540
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: mean the first half was was was frustrating. I know

541
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: you were frustrated. I know you had to put money

542
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: in the swear jar. Yes, I did have to put

543
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: my in this ware jar. And then the second half

544
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: is exactly what it what it should have what the

545
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: first half should have should have been. This game should

546
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: have been seventy two to seven or seventy two zo um,

547
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: all right, Northern Arizona Arizona. This was an unexpected result

548
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: I for the life of me. I mean even at

549
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: halftime when Arizona was up thirteen to seven, I was like, Okay,

550
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: they'll come out and win. It's it's fine. So I

551
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: kind of just flipped back and forth because it was

552
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: a lot of games on at the same time and

553
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Northern Arizona Arizona is gonna get a like. I thought

554
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: it deserved the same attention until I went back and

555
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: watched that Idaho Oregon State got but or Cal Sacramento State.

556
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: But it didn't. It deserved way more attention. Yeah, this

557
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: was brutal. Will Plumber got benched through two interceptions. Jordan

558
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: McLeod came and went six fort Evan threw a touchdown.

559
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: I would expect heading into the Oregon game, I would

560
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: expect Arizona to name their third different starting quarterback of

561
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: the season. Uh. They ran the ball pretty well, um,

562
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: but didn't stick with the run. That's the That's the

563
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: thing that I don't understand is between their two Um

564
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Michael Wiley, who is there starting running back? Like that,

565
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: he's the guy. He had three carries for negative one yard,

566
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: but then the the other the other two backs had

567
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: fifteen carries for d nine yards average to combine like

568
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: six and a half seven yards to carry. Uh. They

569
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: threw the ball forty one times for what? For what? Against?

570
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: This team? Established the run and get yourself a win.

571
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: Before this game, they were debating whether or not Before

572
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: this game, they were debating whether or not they were

573
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: going to storm the field if they broke their four

574
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: team game losing street. What yeah, yeah, storm in AU.

575
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Would it be appropriate to storm the field like Kansas did?

576
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: If you snap the longest losing streak in the country.

577
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: That was what the student body and local media were

578
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: debating leading into the game. And then you walk away

579
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: not even being able to do that, And I think,

580
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: what's incredible? What what needs to really be stressed here

581
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: about this game? I know the players on an a

582
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: used roster. I know that Kevin Daniels who had a

583
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: hundred thirty seven combine yards and a touchdown UH, including

584
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: seven carries for a hundred twenty seven yards. I know

585
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: that Kevin Daniels wanted to go to you o Bay.

586
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: I know that when when an AU was his best option,

587
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: he was disappointed and so that that is like like

588
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: that that stings. Yeah, he made sure to rub it

589
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 1: in absolutely. I know that Hendrix Johnson, who had a

590
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: touchdown catch UM in that game. I know for a

591
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: fact that both a s U and you have a

592
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: debated offering him. But a SU was like, we're not

593
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: gonna take more than one white wide receiver and that's

594
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: all you get. There's a there's a quota of which

595
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: you and I were not even joking, Like, if you

596
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: are close to college football, you know this is a thing. Um.

597
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 1: And so Hendrick Johnson was considered one of the better

598
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: in state prospects that he ends up at n A U.

599
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: This is the second time he's played against you, of A,

600
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: and this is the second time he's scored on you,

601
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,280
Speaker 1: of A. And now he's one and one against him.

602
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: Harrison B. Miller, who had four and a half tackles

603
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: for a loss. Guess where he went to high school

604
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: Saguaro Tucson in effing Tucson and he's four and a

605
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: half so here. So so here's my question. Is this

606
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: coaching or is this roster this bad? It's not a

607
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: good roster. The coaches are all really green and enthusiastic,

608
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: but I think what it really comes down to is, um,

609
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: there is a talent there. You can't say there's a

610
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: talent gap because obviously they're going to be better than

611
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: an AU on the whole. Um I couldn't. So you

612
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: got you got to give some of it to coaching,

613
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: and then you have to also put it on the

614
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: fact that they don't have somebody they trust at quarterback

615
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: to be able to execute the game plan. Maybe Jordan

616
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: Cloud is going to be that guy. Maybe they go

617
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: back to Gunner cruz um but but maybe not. They

618
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: don't have a dedication to the run game either, which

619
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: is if the Georgia, if they go out and throw

620
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: forty one times against Oregon, this is gonna be one

621
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: of the worst losses I've ever seen. Wait if they

622
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: if they go what if they go out and throw

623
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: the ball forty one times against Oregon the way that

624
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: they're going to throw eight picks? Yeah, exactly, and and

625
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think you'll appreciate that one of the

626
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: guys that house to a pick against um Arizona in

627
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: this game for NAU is Tyler Shuck's little brother, Brady

628
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: Tyler Shucks brother. Yeah, he shuck. He took a pick

629
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: to the house against all Right, Well, this team is

630
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: an absolute disaster. UM Arkansas State at Washington. I know

631
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: I got this spread wrong because Washington was favored by

632
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: like seventeen even though that they had only scored seventeen

633
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: points on the season. Yeah, uh you. This is one

634
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: of the only places where I think got a w

635
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: and you didn't was we had you had Arkansas State

636
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: sixteen and a half plus sixteen and a half. I

637
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: think this was thirty five nothing at a halftime. No, no,

638
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight nothing at halftime. Yeah, so that's that's no good. Um,

639
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: I think that I don't I don't know what to

640
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: say about this that I think I already brought up

641
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: the running back situation and on infuriating. That is Washington people.

642
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: We're like, because Jalen McMillan had tin catches for a

643
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: buck seventy five and a touchdown, and their fans are like,

644
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: this is our offense, this is this is us. We're

645
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: still that we we have the best defense and the

646
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,959
Speaker 1: best offense in the Pac twelve. This proved it today. Okay, well,

647
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: don't get cute because Memphis scored fifty five and you

648
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: only scored fifty two. Right, this is a very very

649
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: bad Arkansas State defense. You should be proud of what

650
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: your defense did correct in this game. Offense, that should

651
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: just be expected. And again, Sean McGrew only had six

652
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: touches and scored on two of them. Surprise, yep, all right,

653
00:40:54,920 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: Minnesota at Colorado this felt like PJ Flex, you know,

654
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: his audition for the USC job. I mean, they came

655
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: in and it was zero zero after the first quarter

656
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: and then it was just an absolute destruction for every

657
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: single second after that. They won thirty to zero. Colorado

658
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: passed the ball for eighty two yards. And and you're like, George,

659
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: I thought they had, you know, sixty seventy yards offense.

660
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: Well they rushed for a team total of negative nineteen yards.

661
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Is that bad? Is that bad? Ha? Ha? Ha? Is

662
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: that is that bad? Dude? That might be the worst

663
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: rushing effort I've ever seen from a Power five team.

664
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: If only they only gave Broussard and founting of the

665
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: ball eight times total in the running game, so eight

666
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: carries for twelve yards. Most of that came from Brendan

667
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: Lewis getting sacked because they were down and they kept

668
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: having to drop him back. Um, they should have kept

669
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: trying to run the ball. It's it's absurd that they

670
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: that they didn't feel that they had the ability to

671
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: do that. I mean, in Minnesota, Minnesota, you talk about

672
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: this being an audition for p J. Fleck. What what

673
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: what do people want to see restored at USC more

674
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: than anything else? What do you mean? Faith? Hope, but

675
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: but also like a running game? Yes, embarrassment, oh yes,

676
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: And he is going to run the football. There's no

677
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: fifty three times, and specifically they're running backs. They're running

678
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: backs forty eight times, forty eight times for four touchdowns. Yeah,

679
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: he don't, he don't play him games. He's like, let listen,

680
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: we're not just I mean, they only threw the ball

681
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: seventeen times. P J. Fleck will run the ball until

682
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: you force him to stop it. Then he'll throw it.

683
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: But if you're running the ball at this level, they

684
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: ran for five yards to carry there, like, so what

685
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: keep it keep it going, Keep it going, Keep it

686
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: going because four plus four plus floor equals twelve. Three

687
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: plus three plus three equals fifteen. Both of them are

688
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: first downs. So hard it is to get seventy two

689
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: yards of offense without turning the ball over like they didn't.

690
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: They just got blanked at home. That's embarrassing. That's embarrassing. Actually, Okay,

691
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,280
Speaker 1: So which loss is more embarrassing considering the statistical numbers

692
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: of Colorado and considering Arizona lost to n A U.

693
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Which one is more embarrassing? Uh? The last time the

694
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: NAU beat Arizona was ninety two. Okay, Colorado sucks sometimes,

695
00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: and so I'm gonna go with is worse to be

696
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: not even um, it is worse to not even be

697
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: a top three college football team in your state when

698
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: your state only has two FBS college football teams. Okay, okay,

699
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: I will go with you there, all right. The Stanford

700
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: Cardinal traveled out to Nashville to go play Vanderbilt and

701
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: one forty three. This is a far cry from the

702
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Week one effort that David Shaw's team had against Kansas State,

703
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: and now after three weeks of football, they look a

704
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 1: lot more like that eight and four team that I predicted. Yeah,

705
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: this is two weeks in a row where they've had

706
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: explosive plays in the run game. And if you're getting

707
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: explosive plays in the run game, you're you're definitely gonna

708
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: have a chance. Austin Jones broke off a sixty one

709
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: yard run Nathaniel Pete at I think it's twenty one,

710
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: You're a touchdown if I'm not at stake, and Tanner

711
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: McKee looks by. This is not a good defense that

712
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't think you should be judging. I don't think

713
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: that you should be judging how good Stanford's offenses in

714
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: back to back weeks using Vanderbilt Vanderbilt as one of

715
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: your Well, they did have their starting quarterback goes six

716
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: team for thirty seven, which is well below yeah, which

717
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: gave your offense the ball a time more. Um. Bryson

718
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 1: Tremaine continues to be one of the more impressive players

719
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: in the pack twelve. He had a touchdown reception and

720
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: again walk on, walk on, Yes from l A. Yeah,

721
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: so that's pretty cool. Um. Defensively it could have been better. Uh,

722
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: they were is a doormat of the of the SEC.

723
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: They lost to East Tennessee State and East Tennessee State

724
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 1: held them to three points. How much more special do

725
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: you feel like it makes James Franklin seem as a

726
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: coach to watch Vanderbilt struggle like this. That's a good point.

727
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: I didn't even consider that, yes, extremely special because he

728
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: made them. Teams were like, oh, well, we actually have

729
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: the game plan for Vanderbilt because if we don't play,

730
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: if we play around, they could actually win. And I

731
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 1: think it was Aaron Rodgers brother who was a quarterback

732
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: at the time. See Jordan's yeah, um, yeah, this is

733
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: so this is Uh, there's a decent performance. They were

734
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: leading tackles by Kyle Blue Kelly, who is like your

735
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: favorite player right now, But no, you you bring up

736
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: Vernon McKinley, and I think that it's probably between the

737
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: two of them, to be honest, and then obviously team

738
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: success is gonna get factored in, so like you, I'd

739
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: give her on the cheep. All right, Um, we had

740
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: the oh A, the number two team in your ranking.

741
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: B y you beat Arizona State and this was the

742
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: matchup between two ranked teams. How do we do in

743
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: this game? You took B y U, I took a

744
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: s U. So you got that one, and I think

745
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: we both took the over and so we did not

746
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: get that. All right? All right? You had you don't

747
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: want to talk about because we've been fighting on the

748
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: phone about a SU are week. Okay, So so here

749
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: is what I say to you. Guys, can weigh in

750
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: on this nine three seven, five for seven shoot us

751
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: a text message. I am just saying, how on God's

752
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: green Earth can I fairly and honestly assess Arizona State

753
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: and the best parts of their team When they beat

754
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: Southern Utah, they beat un l V. Both teams are awful.

755
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: And then the first team they played with a pulse

756
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: they lost to and I said to you, I was like,

757
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: how can we say that this is still a top

758
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: any team? I'm sorry or yeah? And you were like,

759
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: because you can, and I was like, no, you can't.

760
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: The first time that they had a post, they looked terrible.

761
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: They looked terrible parts of their parts of them look terrible,

762
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 1: not the whole. What do you mean? The passing game

763
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: and the discipline is very bad. Jaden Jaden Daniels throwing

764
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: no touchdowns in two picks never, He's never had a

765
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: multiple multiple interception game before. He's also hasn't thrown the

766
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: ball thirty times very many times either. Yeah, so this

767
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: is concerning if I'm Arizona State, because he's supposed to

768
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: be Like after his freshman year, people thought he was

769
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna be the savior. I even wrote an article about

770
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 1: that he was the future. I also in that article said, yeah,

771
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: but this isn't gonna be good enough for or a

772
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: sophomore year either that he's going to have to make

773
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: some big strides in terms of statistics if this team

774
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: is gonna ascend to the heights that it desires. But

775
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: with him playing the way he played against b Y,

776
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: you this team has headed for three or four losses.

777
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: It's very possible. And I will say this, Um, the

778
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,919
Speaker 1: attitude towards hers on the State turned in a way

779
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: that I was not expecting. Um, And I think it's

780
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: because if you go back in Arizona State's history through

781
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: Dirt Cutter and Dennis Ericson, there were talented teams that

782
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: that had self inflicted wounds and as you got really

783
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: sick of it, and it resulted in the Todd Graham era,

784
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: which was lots of discipline but coaching errors. And so

785
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: this was supposed to be the fix for all of that,

786
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: was to only replace Todd Graham and nobody else and

787
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: keep the discipline, but eliminate the coaching errors. Right, the

788
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: coordinators don't stick around. He ends up having a staff

789
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: up from a limited network because he's been in broadcasting

790
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: for nine years now. The discipline is gone, and Arizona

791
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: State fans had already completely washed their hands of any

792
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 1: more a s U teams lacking discipline. So you go

793
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: out there and you get nineteen flags and George Arizona

794
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: State fans were calling for her Edward's head. They basically

795
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: what I saw online was we could have tolerated the embarrassment.

796
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: Of the investigation if you didn't show that same lack

797
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: of discipline in your on field play, so you're gonna

798
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: get us investigated and you can't even prepare your team

799
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: to understand the snap count on the road, then we

800
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: don't want you and we don't want Ray Anderson. And

801
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: it was it was I mean, and it was near

802
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: universal people being a team that could still win the

803
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: Pack twelve Al wants to ditch their head coach based

804
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: on how things went at b y U. And that's

805
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: how Hyperson because they were like, we gotta keep harm

806
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: and then it was like, oh wait, are you? Are

807
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: you sure? And I big part of that is they

808
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: were promised that Jane Daniels would be developed, and freshman year,

809
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: it looked like Jane Daniels was going to evolve into

810
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: one of the better quarterbacks in the Pact twelve. George,

811
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: would you say that Jade Daniels is better now than

812
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: he was as a freshman? No, I would say they

813
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: look kind of like the same person. Yeah. Well, the

814
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: defense looks really good, but they're incredibly senior, top heavy,

815
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: and now they have another injury on the defensive line.

816
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: The running game looks fantastic. If those two things carry over,

817
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: they probably have some success. If not, then then you're

818
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: probably right. But the way that I look at it

819
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: now is I still feel like we're probably looking at

820
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: a at a top twenty team by the season end.

821
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: But you can't you can't get twenty flags and again

822
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: you can't like that's got to be gone otherwise you're

823
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: not gonna get another win on the road. And they

824
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: play at Washington and at u c L A is

825
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: that what you told me? Yes? Right? And so if

826
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: you c L all of a sudden convinces the crowd

827
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: to come out, then what then what if you can't

828
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: snap the ball or you don't know the snap count,

829
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: or you can't even go to a silent count on

830
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: the road. Yeah, it was disappointing some of the things

831
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: that and some of the excuses that that were made, like, yeah,

832
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: the crowd is a factor, and you haven't played in

833
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: front of a crowd in in a while. Yeah, I

834
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: don't know who was meant For the most part, A

835
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: s U fans universally are are upset at this. I

836
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: don't you always see um mostly people making excuses for

837
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: their team to I think I feel like I'm the

838
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: only one making an excuse right now, Yeah, I think

839
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: everybody's fed up and and and those people need to

840
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: temper their expectations because while while this is a bad

841
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: loss in terms of because you didn't expect it and

842
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 1: you wanted your team to look look better, like firing

843
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: the head coach, Okay, like chill there. You you have

844
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Colorado coming up, so you're gonna win that. And then

845
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: it's the at U C l A and then Stanford

846
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: and U TAW all three in a row. That's gonna

847
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: determine their season because they're gonna beat Colorado. If they

848
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: don't beat Colorado, that would be like losing to n

849
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: AU almost if they don't beat Colorado. So that this

850
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: is an interesting question is the staff is probably gonna

851
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: get overhauled at the end of the season. But yeah,

852
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 1: that that's a matter of fact. Um, but would you

853
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 1: try to get an early start on that. I think

854
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: the answer would be yes if you're athletic director. Was

855
00:53:53,040 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 1: not the head coach's best friend. Mm hmmm. Now yeah,

856
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll fire herm no matter the results.

857
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: I think that he's gonna make it through the season.

858
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: Right What what if they go one and three? In

859
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: their next four. He can't. He can't fire her. That

860
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: would be wild, dude, because then who would you make

861
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: head coach. He can't make Antonio appears head coach with

862
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: all the stuff that's happened. Yeah, I guess if exact Hill, Yeah, yep, yeah,

863
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: all right. Uh. Then the next non conference game, Fresno

864
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: State at U c l A. This would I was

865
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: actually upset that. At first, I was like, man, at

866
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 1: least this game was on Pack twelve network, but when

867
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: you see l A lost. But then I thought about it,

868
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I wish this game had been

869
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: in prime time because people needed to understand how good

870
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: Fresno State is and Hainer their quarterback, who is a

871
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: special person. I mean, like, this kid has NFL written

872
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: all over him. He's got the guts, the cohonis, the skills,

873
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: everything that you want out of your quarterback. And like

874
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: he's a grinder too. And I'm just sitting here, like,

875
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: very very weird to watch U c l A walk

876
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 1: off the field and tip their cap to an opposing player. Dude,

877
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: he was dying on the field. They they had beat

878
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: the hell out of him, Dude, they hit him so

879
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: many times he couldn't barely walk he was. It was

880
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: incredible And I wish this game had been in prime

881
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: time because it was an absolute like people needed to

882
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: understand how good Fresno State is, this team is, and

883
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: because remember people were like, oh my god, Oregon struggled

884
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: with Fresno State. Then you're watch him play and you're like, oh,

885
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. Any Fresno State would

886
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: give any do If they played Clemson, they would beat

887
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 1: Clemson the way Clemson's offensive is right now, click, Clemson

888
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: can't beat Fresno State. Yeah, if I told you, if

889
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: I told you that Dorian Thompson Robinson had three touchdowns

890
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: no interceptions, and that Zack Sherbon had got two touchdowns

891
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: on his own on the ground, you've been like, oh,

892
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: that was quick work, yes, exact, Zack Shermon they only

893
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: had six carries. What was that about? I know, I

894
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: thought it was weird, right, Yeah, there there had to

895
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: be some explanation for it. But U c l A

896
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: didn't run the football at the level that they normally

897
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: do anyway, Um, they only read it twenty nine times

898
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: and thirteen of them were Dorrian Thompson Robinson. They ran

899
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: thirteen for a hundred and seventeen yards, which is completely

900
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: opposite of what they had been doing. But part of

901
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: it is because they allowed seventeen points in the second quarter,

902
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: so they were down twenty three to ten at halftime,

903
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: and I remember saying, Okay, I'm very confident that U

904
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: c l A would would would win this game because

905
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: my wife's a U c l A fans, So I

906
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: was like, okay, because Dorian Thompson Robinson had a Dorian

907
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson moment right before halftime where he fumbled the

908
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: ball all by himself. He went to go throw it

909
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: and it just fell out of his hands, and that's

910
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: the most Dorian Thompson Robinson thing that's possible to do.

911
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: And then U c l A comes back, gets control

912
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: of the game, gets to lead. Their defense in the

913
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 1: second half was smothering until the last two drives of

914
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, smothering. They have multiple takeaways, they got

915
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: bumbles that Fresno State recovered. It was just a dominating

916
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: performance and then all of a sudden, all the things

917
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: that they did. So whoever's calling the plays, whether it's

918
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: Jerry azenor or whoever else, did the complete opposite of

919
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: what they did to get the lead in the end,

920
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: they went prevent and all it did was prevent them

921
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: from winning. And Jake Hayner throwing for four hundred and

922
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: fifty five yards on fifty three attempts. You want you

923
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: want to know what what I found kind of fun

924
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: in this game because everybody's talking about Jake Haner, right,

925
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: Ronnie Rivers, they're running back. Yep, yeah, Ronnie Rivers Fresno

926
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: State running back to star out of high school. He

927
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: is out of Oakley, California, where he ran for twenty

928
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: three touchdowns fift hundred yards as a junior yards thirty

929
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: three touchdowns as a senior, had a two star rating

930
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: from Rivals, and has been on the roster at Fresno

931
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: State getting regular reps for four years. He decided to

932
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: come back and repeat his senior year because the n

933
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: C double A allows you to do that, and he

934
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: now in his career at Fresno State is seventy three

935
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: yards shy of three thousand yards. Geez, he is uh,

936
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: He's got forty eight total touchdowns and this is like,

937
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: this is a two star kid who's stuck it out

938
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: at the same school for five years and is just

939
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: a grinder. He's not a star. He looked like one

940
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: against U C o Ay. He's never run four yards yeah, no,

941
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: no, no no no. His best year was his junior year

942
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: where you know, but he he gets over five yards

943
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: to carry and and you absolutely just know that if

944
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: he was on University of Washington's roster, they wouldn't give

945
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: him carries either. All Right, the last how bad was

946
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: this loss? Do you do? Do you think for the

947
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: Pack twelve? Uh? It really depends on what Fresno State

948
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: does from here, and I think unfortunately for the Pack twelve,

949
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: the Mountain West is extremely loaded at the top because

950
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: you've got Um, You've really thin defense out at Nevada,

951
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: especially in the secondary, but you've got one of the

952
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,959
Speaker 1: top NFL prospects at quarterback. Do you have to worry

953
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: about boys? The state is still boys state. They have

954
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: a roster who's recruiting is would would land them in

955
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: like the eight spot in the Pack twelve year over

956
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: year if they were in the Pac twelve and obviously

957
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: be better. But so you you have a team that

958
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: recruits like a Pack twelve school, um that you have

959
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: to worry about. And then Utah State all of a sudden.

960
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: They're undefeated. Wyoming's undefeated New Mexico under Danni Gonzalez looks

961
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: like a functional team. So I don't know if anybody

962
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: in the Mountain West has the ability to actually run

963
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: the table. It's only a bad loss if Fresno State

964
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: gets in that Mountain West play and loses three or

965
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: four games. Dude, you are no wonder. You've been so

966
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: so happy. Wyomings three and oh, Wyomings three and oh,

967
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: they look like asked. They have three points going into

968
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of their first gaming. It's Montana State

969
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: and Montana State's coach was last year's offensive coordinator. But

970
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: that was extremely frustrating. And then I took the under

971
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: in their game against Northern Illinois, and I think both

972
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: teams hit the over individually. Um, so you know, I'm

973
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: they're three and oh, but I am still very frustrated

974
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: with how they look. All right, Well, there was one

975
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: conference game and that was USC, who beat Washington State

976
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: forty five to fourteen. This was a game that USC

977
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: got a last second halftime touchdown on fourth down. Where

978
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: they have their their new head coach, first black head coach,

979
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: in Dante Williams, who's the interim guy. And they were

980
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 1: dominating in that third quarter because they went in down

981
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: fourteen seven, and if Washington State had stopped that play,

982
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: you and USC would have quit because you USC actually

983
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: should have been down any one zero because Washington State

984
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: dropped a wide open touchdown pass, so they should have

985
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: been down twenty zero. And then they would have quit

986
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: had Washington State not come out and fumbled the opening kickoff.

987
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: And then Washington State quit after uh USC went up

988
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: fourteen and Jaden Jaden the Laura got hurt right before halftime.

989
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: This offense was not good. After that, they played three

990
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Cameron Cooper, victor uh Gabballis as well, one of

991
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: them a walk on or was a walk on? This

992
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: was just and then um Jared Guarantano still hurt. Who's

993
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: their other quarterback? This game for Washington State was awful

994
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: while for USC, Keaton Slova's got got hurt only through

995
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: two passes and then incomes Jackson Dart going th for

996
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: three ninety one and and four touchdowns, but he also

997
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: had two really bad interceptions too, So what what is

998
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: to be gained from that? When they couldn't run the

999
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 1: football at all? Carries for forty eight yards and Jackson

1000
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 1: Dart lit up a really really bad team. I mean, like,

1001
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 1: what what are we supposed to judge about USC? When

1002
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: USC people are acting like this is a this is

1003
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: what they like, They're happy with the results. Yeah, I

1004
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: think there's if you're a USC fan, there's some stuff

1005
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: maybe you don't like about this game, and then there's

1006
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: some stuff that you do, like um, getting Andrew Edson,

1007
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: who is a freshman at Washington State and I know

1008
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: they love him, but he's still a freshman, beating Dijon

1009
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: Benton off the edge and crushing Keaton Slovis in the

1010
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: beginning of that game. Keaton Slovis going down like that

1011
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 1: was not a great start to the Dante Williams era.

1012
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: A big part of what was wrong under Clay Hilton

1013
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: was not being able to protect your quarterback. Uh, and

1014
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 1: that I mean that that was how this game started off,

1015
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: and so that kind of took the air out of

1016
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: the room. Travell Harris, who I have said to you

1017
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: the biggest crime of the PAC twelve preseason pole was

1018
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 1: that Travell Harris, and then maybe to a certain extent,

1019
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: Arizona State's middle linebacker as well. We're left off the

1020
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: preseason awards Travelle Harris scored twice in this game right away, um,

1021
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: and and it really looked like he was one of

1022
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 1: the best players on the field. And then you get

1023
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 1: Jackson Dart in the game. And Jackson Dart did something

1024
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 1: that I really appreciate. He played like it didn't matter

1025
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: what he did, Like they're already down fourteen nothing, Oh yeah,

1026
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: you're the backup quarterback. Just go out and throw, no risk,

1027
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: no biscuit, he like. And and that's kind of what

1028
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 1: you need out of your quarterback, right is is a

1029
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: dude who's like, listen, I'm not worried about this. But

1030
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: then that's kind of the way Keaton Slovis played his

1031
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: freshman year. But it's like, as Sue, it's like that

1032
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: old saying almost that um that when you're when you're

1033
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: young and dumb. But then once you realize the steaks,

1034
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: then that kind of change how players play. Yeah, and

1035
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like these coaches that go out

1036
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: there and hammer no turnovers, no turnovers, no turnovers into

1037
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: their quarterback's head, because that could change the way that

1038
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: they they approached the game. Um. Jaden Daniels was a

1039
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: menace in high school, he was the he was the

1040
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,160
Speaker 1: seven seconds or last Phoenix Suns. He was the Golden

1041
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: State where he was like offense up and down the field,

1042
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: helter skelter, you know, put up ungodly numbers. And then

1043
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 1: you get him in herm Edwards Uh playing herm ball

1044
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,479
Speaker 1: and it's ball control. And it's just like that type

1045
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: of stuff drives you nuts because enough years of that

1046
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: and that becomes who you are. And so you know,

1047
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: you start to see Keaton Slowis get more and more

1048
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: afraid of making mistakes. And and this is just an

1049
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: assumption on my part. There is nothing from Keaton Slovis

1050
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: or his camp. I know that stories came out his

1051
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: freshman year of his mom making him promise to quit

1052
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: if he ever got bad enough concussion. Um, But I

1053
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: when I watched Keaton Silov's play, I feel like he's

1054
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: worried about that next hit because he promised his parents

1055
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 1: he would never play again if it came to, you know,

1056
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: an issue of like brain. That's some serious speculation on

1057
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 1: my part. But I watched him from freshman year to now.

1058
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: I watched him get destroyed by Lecky Foe too, just

1059
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 1: got blue blown up by Andrew Edson. The more often

1060
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: that that stuff happens, the more it's changed how he plays. Meanwhile,

1061
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 1: Jackson darts cool to go out there and hurt his

1062
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: knee and throw for three d plus yards just to

1063
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 1: get be be happy to be on the field. This game,

1064
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: to me changed in the first play of the second

1065
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: half when Travelle Harris took a helmet to his helmet

1066
01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: and let the ball go and the refs were like, no,

1067
01:06:56,920 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: that's fine, that's that that thing is allowed now, and

1068
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: and USC was able to tie the game fourteen fourteen,

1069
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: and Jade DeLaura is out and Jane DeLaura is out,

1070
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: they can't move the ball down the field, and they're

1071
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: reeling because if there's one thing that Washington State fans

1072
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: hate is feeling like the refs want USC to win

1073
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,720
Speaker 1: because it's definitely part of their recent history. Yes, um,

1074
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: and yeah, you just saw the wind. You saw Washington

1075
01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 1: State change as a team. If Jade DeLaura is not

1076
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 1: on the field for them, they don't look like a

1077
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: functional offense. And you can take the wind out of

1078
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: the sales of of their defense, which looked very good

1079
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: in the first half. Yeah, I totally agree with that.

1080
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: But now we can go on to, oh, some of

1081
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 1: the the stats and statistics this week, you actually have

1082
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: in terms of you have c J. Verdell leading the

1083
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: conference and rushing b J. Baylor from O s U. Second,

1084
01:07:56,520 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: Zack Charbonne third, who is surprised in league third because

1085
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: you would have thought that against Fred No Stadi would

1086
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: have gotten a few more carries that would have been

1087
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: interesting as well, Um Jackson dart is leading the conference

1088
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: in yards per game, passing yards per per game even

1089
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: though he only started one game. And then surprisingly, uh,

1090
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 1: you have Dylan Well Chase Chase Garber second as far

1091
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: as total offense, Dylan Morris third at you dubbed despite

1092
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:37,919
Speaker 1: their they're terrible you know, scoring practices the first two games.

1093
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: And then Thompson Robinson third, Jade Daniels and then Chance Nolan,

1094
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, Jade Delora, Tanner McKee and Gunner Cruise round

1095
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: out the top ten. Yeah. Do you feel like I'm

1096
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: starting to feel this way that only one team in

1097
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: the conference knows how to get the ball to their

1098
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 1: star as often as they should. Oh it as usc

1099
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: getting add they everybody else? Yeah, Washington State certainly does not.

1100
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: Oh you know who does? Though you of a, they're

1101
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: getting it to Stanley berry Hill, the third he's got

1102
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: twenty eight catches. He's second in the conference, and by

1103
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: a by a lot because third is okay. So leading

1104
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: the conference with twenty nine catches, three hundred and seventy

1105
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: five yards and three touchdowns is Drake London. And then

1106
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 1: you have Stanley berry Hill who has twenty eight for

1107
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 1: two sixty three, and then you have Calvin Jackson with

1108
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: eight teen catches for two sixty two. So it's a

1109
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: big drop off between two and three. How frustrating does

1110
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: it have to be for University of Arizona three years

1111
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: in a row to have a walk on be their

1112
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: leading receiver when you have four star Drew Dixon and

1113
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: four star Jamori Joyner ye who haven't really gone anything. No,

1114
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 1: you are right, um, And where the team's statistics? So

1115
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: scoring offense, U c l A leads at thirty nine

1116
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: point seven points a game, Oregon second at thirty eight,

1117
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: and then last and then pulling up the rear, you

1118
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 1: oh actually hold up Oregon State third at thirty six,

1119
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: USC at thirty four, Arizona State at thirty one, CAL

1120
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: at thirty which is surprising because they're used around at

1121
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty number Stanford's up from last year at thirty.

1122
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: Utah is at twenty nine, Washington State a twenty seven,

1123
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: Washington at twenty three points a game, Arizona at sixteen,

1124
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: in Colorado at fourteen. Yeah, oh, breaking news. You and

1125
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: I talked about it before we started recording. But Cal's

1126
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 1: quarterback commitment has reopened his recruitment and that is Justin.

1127
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what what the heck? Is his name? Justin? Um?

1128
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: You know him? Yes, yes, the black kid from from Inglewood.

1129
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,800
Speaker 1: He trains with with my son um, Justin, Justin with

1130
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: a Y, Justin with y. You can get it, you

1131
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: can get the second word, I think, Gina. Oh, Justin Martin,

1132
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: Justin Martin, So Justin pare a little bit of inside info.

1133
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: He had been waiting on his U c l A

1134
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: offer and he is in love like his dream school

1135
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,760
Speaker 1: was U c l A. He finally got it a

1136
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: few months ago and he didn't deep commit initially, and uh,

1137
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,840
Speaker 1: now we will see what happens. My my money is

1138
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: on u c l A. He had just visited Old

1139
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: miss and U c l A interestingly came out and

1140
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: offered Devin Brown USC's quarterback commit, as did Lane Kiffin

1141
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 1: at All Miss, which is kind of a fun thing.

1142
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 1: Right after his name got linked to the USC job,

1143
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: he offers USC's quarterback commit. Wow, hey, I'm not mad

1144
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: at mad at him. And remember when Chip was on

1145
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: what did he say about his offers? They are committable. Yep.

1146
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: If you get an offered from U c l A,

1147
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: it's committable. So it's like, whoever takes it first, um

1148
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 1: is gonna be Um. You know it's gonna be that guy.

1149
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: So we will see because if you c l A

1150
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: offered Devin Brown, there's probably some communication there and they

1151
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 1: may think that they can steal him because U c

1152
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 1: l A doesn't have a sure fire, for sure next guy,

1153
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: so we chelsee. So that that means that there are

1154
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 1: now three pack twelve teams without a quarterback commit right

1155
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: because U c l A do Cal doesn't have one

1156
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: and a s U do A SU seems to be

1157
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: in a terrible quarterback situation right right now? Oh wait, no, no,

1158
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: they do have Finn Finn Collins, who I do like.

1159
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I may be partial, I've never seen him

1160
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: on the field yet, but you just like his personality. No,

1161
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 1: like you like hanging out with him at the gym. No,

1162
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, dude, he's he's yeah, yeah, he trains

1163
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: with my kid. I like him. He treats my kid good.

1164
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: I want success for him. I've fallen into the Ralph

1165
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: Amazon trap. That trap though, I'm there. I'm there because

1166
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: uh Trent, Trent board Gay Jade Daniel's backup, he walked

1167
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,440
Speaker 1: on and I want nothing but like great things for

1168
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: for him as well. Um, so I'm with you. Okay.

1169
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: So now onto the games this week. You have all

1170
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 1: packed twelve games, which is good. That means that there's

1171
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: gonna be some winners. There's gonna be some some It's

1172
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: um first thing that you have up in order of

1173
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 1: when they come on you. And there are no week games,

1174
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: weekday games this uh so so far yet? Um? You

1175
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:19,799
Speaker 1: have Washington State at Utah. It is a twelve thirty

1176
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: Mountain kick, so an eleven thirty Pacific kick. Um, what

1177
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: do we have? Oh? Let me pull up the lines

1178
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: that you sent. Would you would you like some would

1179
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: you like some Utah news? Okay? Charlie Brewer, Uh, it

1180
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: was announced that that he will not be starting this

1181
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 1: week and he quit the team. What Desola. Utah has

1182
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: issued a statement to this as salt like tribune Charlie,

1183
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: he's done playing, yep, so you just quit your football

1184
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: career because you lost your job because you were bad,

1185
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: or maybe he just doesn't want to play anymore, Right,

1186
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: that's possible. I mean, he probably came out from Baylor

1187
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: with the specific purpose of play. And if he wasn't

1188
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna play, then he's done. If you if if if,

1189
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 1: if his whole thing was to play, I mean, you don't.

1190
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: You never know what's gonna happen with Cam Rising. He

1191
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: is fresh off in a c O. Yeah, two of him, Right,

1192
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: he missed a senior year of high school and he

1193
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: missed last year. Yeah, so you you can't just assume

1194
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: that he's going to be starting in the whole rest

1195
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 1: of the year. That's that's kind of weak. So what

1196
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,879
Speaker 1: are we what are we doing at quarterback as a backup?

1197
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: If we're uh, jack Quinden Jackson, Jack Quindon Jackson is

1198
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: now the backup quarterback at Utah. We'll see bro That

1199
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: seems outrageous. Um And last week against the spread, I

1200
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: was five and six, which brought me to a season

1201
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 1: total of twenty one and thirteen. Ralph was five and six,

1202
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: brings him to a total of fourteen and twenty and

1203
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: in over unders, I was eight and three four. It

1204
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:11,639
Speaker 1: brings me to a total of twenty thirteen and one,

1205
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: and Ralph's over under he was four and seven, which

1206
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: brings him to sixteen seventeen and one. So, uh, Ralph's

1207
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: a loser right now. Um, it's fair. That is fair.

1208
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: So so now that that's the situation, let's go through

1209
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: this week's games. So, um, Washington State is Washington State

1210
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,679
Speaker 1: is favored by fourteen and a half. No, I'm sorry,

1211
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: Utah is favored by fourteen and a half points and

1212
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: the over under is fifty four and a half. Who

1213
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: do you have? I like Utah. I like Utah because

1214
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Jaden de Laura is going to play

1215
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,640
Speaker 1: in this game. Now, you know what, I'm gonna take

1216
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna I'm gonna take Washington State. Um, I'm

1217
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna take Washington State just because it's I do think

1218
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: that Utah is gonna have issues scoring the ball. Yeah,

1219
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,719
Speaker 1: this is rough. I think they're gonna rally around Rising.

1220
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 1: Wasn't he the captain of the team, Yes, he was

1221
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: the captain and they didn't vote. But then the kid

1222
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: from Baylor was starting, the one who quit. Now it

1223
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 1: makes more sense why they didn't by the team didn't

1224
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 1: vote him a captain. Yeah, can I'm gonna read you this,

1225
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: this tweet from Scott Gerard. I thought, I thought it

1226
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 1: was great. He works for those zone uh twelve eighty

1227
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 1: sports up in Saltwack, great great radio station. Um Jake

1228
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,639
Speaker 1: Bentley had a three thousand yard twenty seven touchdown season

1229
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Charlie Brewer through for nine thousand yards

1230
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: sixty plus touchdowns at Taylor. Both were largely disappointing at

1231
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,280
Speaker 1: Utah and left. Huntley was homegrown and had NFL talent.

1232
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: The mercenary approach, for whatever reason, is not working. Well.

1233
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: That was an interesting take, and I wanted to get

1234
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: it out there. I will take against my better judgment.

1235
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: I am gonna roll with Washington State and hold out

1236
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: hopes that your boy Jaden Delora gets on the field. Okay,

1237
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: So I all right, Ralph, I want to do something

1238
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: a bit unconventional in that is it okay with you?

1239
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: If I take this bet pending the Jaden Delora news

1240
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: that if that if if he doesn't play I'll take

1241
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: Utah minus fourteen and a half and if he does

1242
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: and the over, and if he doesn't play, and I'm sorry,

1243
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: and if he does play, I'll take Washington State and

1244
01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: still the over. I will let you do that so

1245
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: long as whatever the line is when the game kicks off,

1246
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: not the line now, not the fourteen and a half

1247
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: line now. But if it comes out that Jaden Dolora

1248
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 1: isn't playing and the line jumps to eighteen, you gotta

1249
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: take the line of eight team. M Okay, okay, cool,

1250
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: all right, you drive a tough bargain, but I will

1251
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: take that alight. The second game in chronological order is

1252
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: Saturday at three pm Pacific. It is U c l

1253
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: A at the Stanford Cardinal who have found a way to,

1254
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: you know, come back from what was a very very

1255
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: disappointing Week one, and they are U c l A

1256
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: is favored by six and a half. The over under

1257
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 1: is fifty eight and a half. I will take U.

1258
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 1: C l A minus six and a half and I'm

1259
01:19:55,439 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: gonna take the under. I will also tell U c

1260
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: l A. I do not believe that Stanford has a

1261
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: seventeen point second quarter in them the way that the

1262
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: way that Fresno State did. So I will ride with

1263
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 1: you on u c l A with with a touchdown

1264
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,759
Speaker 1: and I will go over because back to back games

1265
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,599
Speaker 1: with Stanford going over forty points I think I think

1266
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: might be an indicator that this game could be pretty

1267
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 1: igh scoring. Yeah. My only thing is the reason why

1268
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,919
Speaker 1: I think that you're wrong, Ralph is because and but

1269
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: but you're locked in is that that both of these

1270
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: teams are gonna run the football very heavy, especially U

1271
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: c l A. After last week. Not running it very

1272
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 1: much means clock is gonna go down, not gonna score

1273
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: quite as many points. That's why I got the under. Um.

1274
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: Next game up the Cow Golden Bears, who just lost

1275
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 1: their committ commit quarterback Justin Martin against Washington, who put

1276
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: up a good performance last week. So Cal is getting

1277
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: five and a half points at Washington and the over

1278
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 1: under is forty six and a half. I got Cow

1279
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: plus six and a half plus the under at forty

1280
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:18,599
Speaker 1: six and a half because if this game goes over,

1281
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: that means Washington is gonna win. Interesting, Okay, I will

1282
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: ride with you on Cow plus six and a half.

1283
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: I think that Cal there are issues that they've had

1284
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:33,799
Speaker 1: because they should be three and oh right now instead

1285
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: of one and two. Um, the issues are fixable. They

1286
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 1: are coaching issues, and they are fixable. So because of that,

1287
01:21:41,479 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put faith in Cal here Um, but I

1288
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 1: don't like the under is. I mean we're talking twenty

1289
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:59,439
Speaker 1: would beat the over under number. Yeah, I think we're well,

1290
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 1: I think we're get mat m m. I think this

1291
01:22:05,040 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: is more like seventeen game. This feels This feels like

1292
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: a rock fight of too bad offenses. Because Washington is

1293
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: going to regress back to the mean. They're gonna throw

1294
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: some picks, They're gonna have drive stall. This is gonna

1295
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: be two teams that kick a lot of field goes. Watch. Yeah.

1296
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:29,080
Speaker 1: Cal has been susceptible to a dominant offensive player. Um.

1297
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: Washington I think has that in Kate Doten. Um. But

1298
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 1: I think Cal scores because they take a lot of shots.

1299
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: They really take a lot of shots down the field. Um.

1300
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 1: So we we'll see. That's where we're split. We both

1301
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: have Cal plus six and a half and I will

1302
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: take the over yep. Alright, next game up it is

1303
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 1: at this is the night game. Start from here on

1304
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: that and that Cal game is that Cal Washington game

1305
01:22:57,040 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: is at six pm Pacific. So uh, then the night

1306
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: game starts. You have Arizona at Oregon. Oregon's favored by

1307
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: twenty eight and a half points. The over under is

1308
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 1: fifty eight and a half. I got Oregon plus the over. Yeah,

1309
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the under because I don't think University

1310
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,600
Speaker 1: of Arizona can score. So even if this game is

1311
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: like forty eight to ten, you're still under. Um. I

1312
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: think that Oregon has moved into a style points uh

1313
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: type of mindset, and I think that this game is

1314
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:40,560
Speaker 1: important to them. I think it's important for Oregon to

1315
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: look for this final score to look the way it

1316
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: should look, and I think that it's still probably pretty

1317
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 1: fresh in Oregon fans minds that there's a couple of

1318
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,719
Speaker 1: times against the University of Arizona where they let things

1319
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: get out of control and and and even ended up losing.

1320
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: So they want to make sure they take care of

1321
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 1: business at home. They want to make sure that they

1322
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 1: start quicker than last week. Uh. Jordan McLeod, I'm sure

1323
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 1: is a fine quarterback if if if Arizona decides to

1324
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: roll with him. But if if Cabon Thibodeau plays, and

1325
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: I wouldn't play him. No, he well, actually he's trying.

1326
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: He tried to play last week versus Stony Brook, and

1327
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: the team was like, no, you're you're not playing you

1328
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: You do know that, right? Yeah? This this offensive line,

1329
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that. There's a couple of dangerous guys

1330
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: on you of ase defense that I would look out

1331
01:24:31,479 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: for if I was you, George. I mean, they got

1332
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: a they got like a six six three tackle who

1333
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: can make a little bit of noise. Um. But other

1334
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 1: than that, this is gonna be this is gonna be brutal.

1335
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 1: I think thirty four, thirty four points, I still would

1336
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: have taken Oregon. So I'm gonna roll with Oregon and

1337
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:54,639
Speaker 1: I'll take the under. Okay, alright. The next game up

1338
01:24:55,120 --> 01:25:02,679
Speaker 1: is Colorado at Arizona State. Uh. This was a tough

1339
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:08,679
Speaker 1: game for me because Colorado is favored by fourteen points

1340
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:13,800
Speaker 1: over under forty four and a half, and everything in

1341
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: me was like, yo, I don't believe in this in

1342
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: the as much in this Arizona State team because they're deep,

1343
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: because Colorado's defense had played really well until this last week,

1344
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: but then was it their offense? And then if their

1345
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: offense is just as bad, then of course Arizona State

1346
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: is gonna win by fourteen points. So I got Arizona

1347
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: State plus four I'm sorry, minus fourteen. Oh and the

1348
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,080
Speaker 1: over at forty four and a half because they may

1349
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: beat them forty zero. Uh yeah, this game is the

1350
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: This line is as close to a guarantee, um, as

1351
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: I'd be willing to make this week within the pact.

1352
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 1: Twelve Arizona State minus fourteen. You are twenty consecutive drives,

1353
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,400
Speaker 1: twenty consecutive drives for Colorado without points. Oh and that

1354
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: actually topped Washington's nineteen straight drives without points. How do

1355
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 1: you nineteen straight drives without points? Including what? You also

1356
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: have to include that Oregon was playing two legitimate programs

1357
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 1: and Washington had Montana in there, so that nineteen feels

1358
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: a lot more like thirty. Um. Yeah, so I feel

1359
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: like Washington still has the record for now. Uh. Oregon

1360
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: States defense is going to be challenged to keep that going.

1361
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: You will not see if there's If you believe in

1362
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: regression to the mean, then you should also believe in

1363
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: progression to the mean. A su will not turn the

1364
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: ball over four times and they will not have nineteen flags.

1365
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: So are you sure though? Yes? Yeah, they're not gonna

1366
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: have nineteen flags, okay if okay, So if they have fourteen,

1367
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: is that that that's damn near nineteam bro. That's a lot.

1368
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: That's a lot. If they could cut it in do

1369
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: you know you're in a bad place when you cut

1370
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: it in half and it's still terrible? Yeah? Okay, So

1371
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: here is here. Here's a fun secondary over under. UM

1372
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: two of them. Actually, Colorado had seventy some yards of

1373
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: total offense against Minnesota. Let's double it because you and

1374
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,720
Speaker 1: LV only had a hundred and fifty five yards of

1375
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,679
Speaker 1: offense against a s U. So let's set the over

1376
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: under at total offense for Colorado at one on the

1377
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: road at night. You think they get a hunter and

1378
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: fifty five yards? Do you? I'm asking you? Do you

1379
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: think that Colorado will have more offensive yards than you

1380
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: and LB did against a s U. They should I'm

1381
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 1: gonna go yes, okay. And then will Arizona State have

1382
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 1: less than ten penalties? No? Okay? So that you this

1383
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: game might end up being a little bit closer in

1384
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: your mind because Arizona State hasn't shown that they will.

1385
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: You know, UM do really good with with the penalties.

1386
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 1: So until I see that I won't believe it, alright,

1387
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: So are we both on Arizona State though, because that's

1388
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 1: that line is that line could be that line could

1389
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: be twenty, and I'd still be all over it. Yeah, okay, okay,

1390
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 1: but you have twenty and you would be all over it.

1391
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 1: You are a mad man. You are a man. I

1392
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 1: think we're looking at like a three game seven maybe, okay,

1393
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,600
Speaker 1: um Oregon State at USC. Oregon State's getting twelve and

1394
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 1: a half points and the over under its sixty three.

1395
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 1: I got oregons a plus twelve and a half and

1396
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: the under of sixty three. Because if the overheads, there's

1397
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: not a snowball's chance in hell Oregon State can stay

1398
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: within twelve and a half points. So I have to

1399
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: take the under if I'm taking Oregon State at twelve

1400
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 1: and a half. If Oregon State wins, and you're a

1401
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: USC fan and you see the organ if you see

1402
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the Oregon State offense in action, like if it really

1403
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: clicks against USC the way it's supposed to, the way

1404
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 1: it's built to, even with lesser players, and you're a

1405
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 1: USC fan, do you say I would be willing to

1406
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 1: give him the keys to the kingdom? Do no absolutely

1407
01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: not do big but as a smart human being, as

1408
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 1: a smart objective human being. Oh, I consider, I thought

1409
01:29:46,120 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: you were asking me about USC fans because USC fans

1410
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,519
Speaker 1: aren't gonna like the hire of Jonathan Smith because it's

1411
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: not big enough for them, like, which is hilarious because

1412
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: he's not a a big enough name and he doesn't

1413
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: have you know, quarterback head coach face. So and that's

1414
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: what they want. I lay awake at night afraid that

1415
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: some team with the ability to have the area recruit

1416
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:20,480
Speaker 1: for them would let Jonathan Smith run things. Yes, so

1417
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: so now so now the question to you is this

1418
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: is do they is? Who? Before we get out of here,

1419
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: who does USC higher? Which we will have months to

1420
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 1: speculate about. Probably, Yeah, I tell you what I am

1421
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: more and more as each day passes on the PJ

1422
01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,800
Speaker 1: flex train. Um, because he's done it with two programs,

1423
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: and he's young, and he's a dogged recruiter. Like Chris

1424
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,160
Speaker 1: Peterson said at halftime in that game, whe Emmanuel Acho

1425
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,719
Speaker 1: told him he was wrong, Um, chrig Chris Peterson basically

1426
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: outlined the reasons why he'd never take the job either.

1427
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,760
Speaker 1: You need a twenty four seven recruiter that doesn't take

1428
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 1: the act that USC recruits itself for granted, um, which

1429
01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: Johnte Williams could be that, but I don't think they're

1430
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 1: gonna stick with him if they lose at all ever. Um,

1431
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,759
Speaker 1: but I'm I noticed that our guy Andrew har Hobner

1432
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,559
Speaker 1: throughout Kellen Moore, I don't like it. I don't like

1433
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 1: it either because you don't know if he can recruit,

1434
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: like if he's willing to recruit on that level. Yeah,

1435
01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: and Reggie Bush said Dion Sanders, Okay, I would love

1436
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 1: the Deon Sanders higher, right, but there is nothing Southern

1437
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: California about Deon Sanders. Deon Sanders is a Texas South

1438
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 1: kind of guy. First, Yeah, dude, dude win when Florida

1439
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: state would be on the table. Yes, absolutely, But the

1440
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: only problem with that is this is that Dion seems

1441
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: pretty committed to the HBCU thing. He seems pretty committed

1442
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 1: to and he's preaching that and harping that so hard, right,

1443
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah about turn about getting up opportunities for the HBCU

1444
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: kids all that like this and that, And if he

1445
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:11,639
Speaker 1: takes another job prior to building something there, it'll look bad.

1446
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: I think I think that it would be kind of

1447
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 1: hypocritical because but the only job that I would not

1448
01:32:19,720 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: fault him for taking and call him a hypocrite would

1449
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: be Florida State. If he got the Florida State job

1450
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 1: in two years, when they fire Mike Norvell if things

1451
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,599
Speaker 1: don't turn around, because they know that this team is bad,

1452
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: so they know that that this is a rebuild. But

1453
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 1: if after next season, if things still aren't going well,

1454
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: then they might fire Norvelle, which would put Dion in

1455
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: the running. And if he hasn't done enough at Jackson

1456
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 1: State to elevate the profile, because now Eddie George has

1457
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: followed his footsteps and is the head coach of Tennessee

1458
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: Tech or inn C State, So now you have other

1459
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,240
Speaker 1: guys getting involved in it, and all it is t

1460
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: o s around all the time. Chad Johnson like he's

1461
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 1: bringing that around. If he didn't leave for Florida State,

1462
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: then I think that he's gonna be there quite a while.

1463
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:20,839
Speaker 1: And while Dion would be a homer and higher, especially

1464
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 1: with recruiting, I just don't I can't see a world

1465
01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 1: where he takes the job. I don't I would shy

1466
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,639
Speaker 1: away from hiring anybody who didn't need this job, especially

1467
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: after watching Charlie Brewer just quit on Utah. What do

1468
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: you mean somebody who didn't need it? Somebody who who

1469
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,920
Speaker 1: didn't like Dion doesn't need any of this. He's doing

1470
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 1: it of his own free will. And he's also part

1471
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: time and in media working with Barstool Sports. He's not

1472
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 1: like he's not I feel like he's two ft down

1473
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,920
Speaker 1: and all in, but not not for somebody who would

1474
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: be at the power five level. Two ft down and

1475
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: all in looks different at the power five level. And

1476
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm a there's other people that I would consider for

1477
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 1: this job if I was USC, but I don't know

1478
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Speaker 1: if they can escape that glitz and glam Hollywood mindset.

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01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 1: That's why I like p J. Fleck, because I think

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01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: he's a big enough name for them. But the truth is,

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01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: if I'm USC, I'm looking over at Billy Napier, like,

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01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: if the SEC schools couldn't get him, I'm gonna do

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01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: it mm hmm like and I wouldn't. Okay, so would

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01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 1: you consider um? Okay? So they're not gonna consider Hugh

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01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: Freezing because if they weren't going to consider Urban Meyer,

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01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: they're damn sure not going to consider Hugh Freeze right,

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01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: mm hmm, And I don't think Hugh Freeze would consider

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01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: like I don't think Kyle winning him is the choice.

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01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: I've heard you say this, how winning him is the choice.

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01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I can imagine how good he could be. Now, my

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01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: only question is is he willing to get in them

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01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: trenches recruiting at that level? I don't know, but I

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01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 1: will say, is Kyle Whittingham perfect if you know he's

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01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:21,839
Speaker 1: not going to bring his staff with him m because

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01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,719
Speaker 1: he can't bring the former defensive coordinator who was using

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01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:31,160
Speaker 1: the the in words, so he's out a man and

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01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 1: then want a better wide receivers coach, you're gonna no offense.

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01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: He probably brings his DBS coach with him, his OC.

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Speaker 1: I mean, never mind, Yeah, that's That's my whole thing

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01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: is like what comes with Yeah, that's all because he's

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01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 1: been very loyal to guys who have like Utah ties.

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01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: We were state b y U, all the interchangeable type stuff,

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01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:58,320
Speaker 1: guys who have a history with Utah. So that's my

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01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 1: only thing with Whittingham is he so ingrained in that

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01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: culture and he's so loyal to the regional ties that

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01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: I do believe all other things being equal, he would

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01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: be a fantastic coach to say, hey, we're gonna give

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01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: you even better players to develop into pro prospects than

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01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 1: you are getting at Utah. I love I love that idea,

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01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: but I just it takes a village, and I don't

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01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: know if the village comes with Yeah. So that makes

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01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: me think that you're right. That makes me think that

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01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 1: you're right. Who at this moment, who's your top who's

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01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: your top guy? Like, what's the name that says like

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01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 1: I would? Because in my head it's if if they

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01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: could get if they could get James Franklin, they would,

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01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,920
Speaker 1: but they can't. Therefore p J. Fleck has to be

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01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: the guy. To me, mm hmmm mm hmmm mm hmm.

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01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm leaning towards what you said with with with p J. Fleck,

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01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:13,760
Speaker 1: he makes a lot of sense to He's one at

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01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 1: multiple places, so he didn't just do it at what

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01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: was it at Central Michigan or Western Michigan. I think

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01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 1: he was at Central Yeah, Okay, and then he leaves

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01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: that that school, which you'll clarify just a second, and

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01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 1: goes to Minnesota and immediately gets them contending. Even in

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01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:37,719
Speaker 1: their loss to Ohio State, it still looked really good

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01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: and he was at Western Michigan. Yeah, so he's built

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01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 1: a good team, right, he's recruiting. Well, if you gave

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01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 1: him better resources and you gave him the location of

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01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, he would be willing to come right and

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01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 1: then they would be like roll roll the boat and

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01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 1: it would actually be even more appropriate here because there's

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01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 1: actually there's an ocean. Well actually there's there's lakes in Minnesota,

1534
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: but but they freeze up in the wintertime. And he's

1535
01:38:09,720 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: a Shiano guy, like he's a Shiano disciple. We know

1536
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:17,679
Speaker 1: that that's Sianna took him to the NFL with him. Um,

1537
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 1: he built what he built Western Michigan and he built

1538
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota and he did it with getting the same level

1539
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,920
Speaker 1: recruits that they were getting before. That's the thing that

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01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: people need to understand about Minnesota. Their recruiting classes are

1541
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:37,599
Speaker 1: still in the range. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, I like

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01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:40,720
Speaker 1: p J. Fleck. I think just the idea that you

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01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 1: that oh I I have to you know, like when

1544
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,960
Speaker 1: at this level, or that I need a big name,

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01:38:54,320 --> 01:38:59,719
Speaker 1: big name is not the answer at USC somebody, because

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01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,960
Speaker 1: would anybody have thought when Mario Cristo Ball got the

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01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: job that he would be recruiting at this level. Uh No,

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01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't. I think the Mario Crystal Ball higher was

1549
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:20,840
Speaker 1: a like a triage oh ship moment, like I remember

1550
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,439
Speaker 1: at the time and like, oh he could be good,

1551
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: but but they were put into this situation by Willie

1552
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,759
Speaker 1: Tagger and kind of left without a better option. Was

1553
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:35,480
Speaker 1: was the was the prevailing mindset of the time. Yeah, um, yeah,

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01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:37,960
Speaker 1: So I think that they do have to go after

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01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 1: somebody like I like who they should hire and they

1556
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: but they can't, like they can't take a chance, right,

1557
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: they can't take a chance to be wrong because they've

1558
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 1: been wrong twice. Well, actually they fired their last three

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01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: head coaches, so they can't be wrong. So give me

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01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 1: p J fleck of me. Dude. It's so hard because

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01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,719
Speaker 1: who who else is there that you know would be

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01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,960
Speaker 1: at least put a competent team out there every single

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01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:23,200
Speaker 1: year Matt Matt Campbell, Luke Fickle, Yeah, the Luke. I

1564
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: think I think the thing that's keeping people off of

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01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:30,599
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle is the Ohio loyalty. Yes, because his Ohio

1566
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 1: loyalty is on maximum level. He's He's like Ralph in Arizona. Yeah.

1567
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,080
Speaker 1: But if there's one thing I know about people from Ohio,

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01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 1: it's they will head southwest. Well, the entire population of

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01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 1: Arizona is people who talk about how great Cleveland is

1570
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: like then go back. Oh yeah, you can't. There's no jobs,

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01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Like he has a good job in Ohio, so maybe

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01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,320
Speaker 1: he won't leave. But if you dropped the bag for

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01:40:55,400 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle, why wouldn't he How could he simply say no, Yeah,

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01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,559
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at. YEA, would they do it?

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01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:08,080
Speaker 1: Would they? Would they? Is that big enough for them?

1576
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:13,200
Speaker 1: It should be. It should be because because you don't

1577
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:15,800
Speaker 1: need big Like I don't think it's big enough for

1578
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: their fan base, but it's big enough to win, which

1579
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. Um. But um yeah, I

1580
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: think that's it for this episode. Guys. This is oh

1581
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,400
Speaker 1: the one thing that we forgot to cover, Jees Louise

1582
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: is and we we can mention it's super quick. Is

1583
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: how the referees in college football have been bad all

1584
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:38,759
Speaker 1: across the country and not just in the back twelve

1585
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: I have been just so happy that football is back

1586
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:49,600
Speaker 1: that I'm that I'm I'm willing to excuse it. I

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01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:53,720
Speaker 1: am not, dude, I am not. Um. Well, that's that

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Speaker 1: for this episode. You guys, make sure that you gotta

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