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Speaker 1: us here on Talking Cowboys. Heck my Harrison, Isaiah stand back.

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Speaker 1: We've got Chris Beam in the back. No Rob Phillips

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Speaker 1: again for the second straight day, but do not worry,

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Speaker 1: don't fret. Rob Phillips is back tomorrow. So we will

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Speaker 1: have a say it with your chest Friday with all

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Speaker 1: four quarters of Talking Cowboys. Thank you, Chris. That's the

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Speaker 1: perfect way to summarize not having Rob Phillips. But we

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Speaker 1: to get close to greatness, my best best. How's everybody

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Speaker 1: doing today? Done? Good? Good? Still? How about how about

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Speaker 1: even better? After yesterday's practice report for the Cowboys. Felt

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Speaker 1: pretty good about that, right, Getting Randy Gregory Neville Gallimore

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Speaker 1: back on the practice field kind of what we had anticipated.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you also didn't have any

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard out there. Oh no, that's one thing I

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Speaker 1: was really happy to hear about. No one COVID listed.

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Speaker 1: That's another huge Mike McCarthy back in the building. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he even joked around yesterday as of twelve or one

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Speaker 1: am today, which would have been a minute after midnight

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Speaker 1: and that's that's huge. So everybody's off the COVID list, right,

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Speaker 1: everybody's good at the moment. Knock on wood, where's that wood?

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Speaker 1: We have knocked on it. But that's that is that's

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Speaker 1: a huge key to having everyone back. You feel like

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Speaker 1: that's an added boots to this team of having just

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Speaker 1: regalvanizing the coaching staff and kind of getting back to

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Speaker 1: your roles. Health in general, health in general. But you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's amazing how you go through a season having

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Speaker 1: to check who's on the injury report and COVID report.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing. I mean, we did and have

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Speaker 1: our coach, our head coach last game and just to

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Speaker 1: hear that he's back in the building, I think in

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Speaker 1: Phil Bend and other assistance. You know, although we have

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Speaker 1: more coaches on the staff than any other team, obviously

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Speaker 1: just having guys back healthy is going to be a

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Speaker 1: boost for this team. I believe. How much is that

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Speaker 1: a boost for guys, not even just the players and

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Speaker 1: looking around and seeing their coaches back, which is obviously

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Speaker 1: going to be a confidence level that's higher than it

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Speaker 1: was without those guys, But really for the coaches that

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Speaker 1: had to do two three, four, jobs at a time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about the guys who had to

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Speaker 1: you talk about the offensive line coaches and having Wells

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Speaker 1: offensive line. How much of a relief is that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how much. I don't know how much of

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Speaker 1: a relief it is. I think those guys honestly their competitors,

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Speaker 1: so they look forward to those opportunities too. They don't

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Speaker 1: you know they're not going to back down from it.

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Speaker 1: I think every coach on his staff looks for opportunities

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Speaker 1: those type of situations present area rear their head, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think those guys step up, you know, willingly. But

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Speaker 1: I am now concerned with their backfield. The heck's going

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Speaker 1: They actually got a really good report on Zeke and

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Speaker 1: a positive spin. But then a not so positive spin.

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollard, dealing with a foot injury, spent time off

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Speaker 1: anticipating both of those guys playing. But then they go

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Speaker 1: mid season, it's just, you know, obviously shoring up the

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Speaker 1: don't think that this time to take the glass off

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Speaker 1: just too laid back about it because we've gone through

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Speaker 1: you know, so I'm just evaluating that just to see

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Speaker 1: then hell, who am I to panic? I wouldn't say

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Speaker 1: with your finances, but you prepare for the worst case scenario,

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Speaker 1: right so I mean, this is what an indication of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is something that you can ignore.

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Speaker 1: They have running backs on the roster. You know, they

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Speaker 1: I don't care what nobody says. Zeke has not been healthy.

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Speaker 1: He's been playing through it, right, but he has not

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Speaker 1: a reflection of what Zeke has been. So we know

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Speaker 1: Zeke is injured, but he's not missing practice time, right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then we have TP who actually is now missing practice

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Speaker 1: Being that it's a foot injury, we don't know the

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Speaker 1: severely limited in your run game. You know. I think

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Speaker 1: but playing through that, I think that catapults your whole team.

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Speaker 1: his shoulder was out of place, right, And so you

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Speaker 1: his toughness is viewed and looked at completely differently. But

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Speaker 1: he's playing through it. It's not a tear. It's not

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Speaker 1: something he's gonna have to have surgery on at the

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Speaker 1: just saying particularly Zeke and his toughness in him saying that, hey,

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Speaker 1: Oh goodness, all right, let's take our first break when

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Speaker 1: From the Washington football team. We continue previewing Cowboys offense

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Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't trust it, you don't trust

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Speaker 1: and I don't think. I mean, how many things are

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Speaker 1: Christmas list. No, I don't have any laminated things. I've

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Speaker 1: the ongoing joke, Well Eve in stadiums that no, yeah easy, yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's how it goes, all right, Glad you're with us

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Speaker 1: here on Talking Cowboys Presented by Toe Stidos, and we

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Speaker 1: were just talking about the Cowboys offense and the Washington defense.

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Speaker 1: If you're just joining us, and I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: you this question about the Washington football team. It's a

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Speaker 1: defense that's been playing really well over the last four weeks.

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Speaker 1: You talk about a complete turnaround, and five of their

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Speaker 1: first six game of the year they had allowed at

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Speaker 1: least twenty nine points. At least for the most part,

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Speaker 1: it was up over thirty. Yeah. Five of their first

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Speaker 1: horrible they were not good at all. And then they

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Speaker 1: turn around and even without some of their key pieces

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Speaker 1: like a Chase Young, especially off the edge, a top

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft a couple of years ago, and

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Buckeye edge rusher that is one of the

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Speaker 1: young stars in the league. He's out for the season

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Speaker 1: with a torn acl So with that being said, they

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be as good, right wrong. They've been really good

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Speaker 1: the last four weeks and have really turned it around

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Speaker 1: since the bye week. Huge credit to Ron Rivera and

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Speaker 1: company to getting to that point. But Isaiah, when you

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Speaker 1: look at this defense and you see some of the

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Speaker 1: ways that they could expose the Cowboys offense, which one's

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Speaker 1: the number one way that they could do that. Just

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Speaker 1: their defense up front. I mean, they're they're missing some guys,

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Speaker 1: they're definitely missing some guys, but they're they're still pretty

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Speaker 1: pretty stout up front. There no Montes sweat because he's

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Speaker 1: on the COVID list. Montes, you know they who else

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Speaker 1: they're missing up there? Um? Yeah, really about it, honestly,

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Speaker 1: that's really about everybody else. Still got big John Allen

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Speaker 1: in there. Um they got you know, hold him. That

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Speaker 1: linebacker does a great job for them. They they are,

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're just pretty strong. They're they're strong at

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Speaker 1: the point of contact. And that's these guys are. I

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Speaker 1: think they're third in the league right now in terms

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Speaker 1: of yards rushing allowed something like that. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: these guys are not allowing you to run the ball,

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Speaker 1: which doesn't necessarily bode well for the whole conversation we

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Speaker 1: just had a whole But at the same token, these

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Speaker 1: guys are thirtieth in the league in terms of yards

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Speaker 1: allowed in the air, So it's something that we can

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Speaker 1: definitely exploit in that regard. But you know, running running

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Speaker 1: the ball, as we just talked about, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: essential to the success of the Dallas Cowboys. Can they

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Speaker 1: win without it? Yes, that's not the way in which

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Speaker 1: you want to approach this game. Well, Duran pain has

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Speaker 1: been the pain UH for us, and he's been over

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Speaker 1: the top of Connor Williams for a lot of these

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Speaker 1: matchups that we had last year. Specifically, I think now

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Speaker 1: that we've gone with Connor mcgovernor, I'm excited to see

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Speaker 1: how this matchup goes. And last year when we played

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Speaker 1: them and just I have to talk about this, A

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Speaker 1: lot of people talk about the UH when Dalton Showtz

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Speaker 1: was pounded on the carpet and no one said anything

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Speaker 1: about our Our team didn't retaliate, basically didn't respond to

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton as well, both of them in that game.

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Speaker 1: That's why I was. I was, I was trying to

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. Was Andy Dalton? That's the play that to me,

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Speaker 1: I think was sealed twenty twenty altogether. But I think

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Speaker 1: there was another play in that game that I really

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Speaker 1: showed me, oh that the Washington football team they playing

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Speaker 1: for blood and we out here joking around, and that

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Speaker 1: was when linebacker Cole Holkem came on the blitz and

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Speaker 1: med Ezekiel Elliott in the A gap and it was

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Speaker 1: that's the first time I'd ever seen Zeke actually take

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Speaker 1: like a molly whopping, and that was what it was.

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Speaker 1: And um it was he wasn't trying to get to

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. It was specifically about punishing Zeke. It was

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Speaker 1: disrespect and we have to return that man. We have

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Speaker 1: got to go to DC and get our leg back

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Speaker 1: because they physically impose their will on us. And so

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Speaker 1: when we talk about them being third or fourth or

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Speaker 1: whatever it is in as far as Russian he is concerned,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be important for us. And I know there's

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Speaker 1: a lot that's been said about getting to the outside.

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Speaker 1: We see the speed with Tony Pollard and hopefully he's

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Speaker 1: able to go this week. But I think it's going

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Speaker 1: to be very important that we establish in the trenches

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage tackle to tackle a running game. It's

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Speaker 1: it's got to be against this front instead of trying

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Speaker 1: to run to the outside, because they are tops in

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Speaker 1: next gen stats and runs that go to the outside,

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Speaker 1: so concentrating on the inside is going to be important.

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Speaker 1: And also I just feel like Michael Gallup. Michael Gallup

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Speaker 1: can be very impactful in this game because with their

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Speaker 1: cornerbacks being spread all over with CD and also with

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Speaker 1: TheMark Cooper, he's going to have some one on one looks.

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Speaker 1: That stat that you just mentioned about going out outside

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Speaker 1: and running outside the hash marks negative seventy yards on

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Speaker 1: expected against expected. That's third best in the league. I think,

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Speaker 1: uh for the Washington football team defense. So they want

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Speaker 1: to let you do what we've been talking about wanting

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Speaker 1: to do. We've been wanting to get to the outside

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Speaker 1: has seven eight men in it. Instead, you wanted to

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Speaker 1: get to the edge. Think again, don't do it because

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Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen against this team. And I know,

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Speaker 1: I know how much confidence level of this game is

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Speaker 1: one hundred. I know we're not telling you tomorrow, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I know its confidence is a hundred, said Tostitosa.

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Speaker 1: Tostitos hundo. If we don't, If we don't, the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys don't run for one hundred? What is what percent

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Speaker 1: is that that confidence dropped to h It doesn't doesn't.

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Speaker 1: So you stay hundred regardless of yards on the gre

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Speaker 1: And the reason why it doesn't is because I think

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Speaker 1: that Washington is foolish enough to continue to try and

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Speaker 1: blitz and put pressure on DAC. And Dak has succeeded

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Speaker 1: in the short throws and we saw that against the

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Speaker 1: Saints with getting the ball to the outside with CD

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Speaker 1: and those that's where a lot of our big plays

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Speaker 1: came from from Yak. And so with them trying to

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Speaker 1: still present that pressure and they've had success doing it

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Speaker 1: against the best in the league so far, so I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna do that. And Dak is number one,

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Speaker 1: number two in the league in QPR on quick throws,

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Speaker 1: and so that's and they suffer with the quick passing.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about when you talk about the

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Speaker 1: running game, and you've you've alluded to I've heard you

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Speaker 1: allude to this before that sometimes those short passes can

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Speaker 1: double as a run. And so that's why that's why

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Speaker 1: I don't panic. But if you're run rivera and you

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Speaker 1: know that Dallas is struggling running the ball, and you

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Speaker 1: know that they want to get the ball out quick,

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Speaker 1: do you not adjust and make sure that you press

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Speaker 1: your guys up right. And so it really comes down

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Speaker 1: to how much time does Dak have now to drop

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Speaker 1: back and throw the receivers that could potentially beat their dbs,

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Speaker 1: So do you do you eliminate that? If you're Ron River,

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Speaker 1: do you eliminate that aspect of the game. And just

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Speaker 1: like we just talked about Dak, that's this, but that's

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Speaker 1: the chess match that's gonna happen between Kelly Moore and

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Speaker 1: run RIVERA and I look forward to it because that's

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Speaker 1: the same thing that that's the way the teams have

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Speaker 1: been playing us over the last couple of weeks. And

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Speaker 1: that's why you see, that's why you're talking about Dak

644
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: in those throws in those small windows spaces, and we

645
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: saw him make a throw like that, and everybody's been

646
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: talking about for the last week the throw that he

647
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: made the CD on my hash mark with Latimore on him.

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Speaker 1: So those are throws he's gonna have to continue to

649
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Speaker 1: make it. He's gonna have to continue to do those things.

650
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to continue to throw guys open. And

651
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: so like I personally see like guys like James Smith,

652
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: Smith Williams on the edge being a threat for us.

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00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I also, you know they have a guy to hell

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00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: that Jonathan Allen. He's a big people. But at some

655
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Speaker 1: point our offensive line. Last you talk about our running

656
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: game and going into playoffs, how we're gonna have any

657
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 1: success is trying to establish the line of scrimmage. This

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Speaker 1: is particularly important for a squad that you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: two weeks from now. So you got to you got hey,

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Speaker 1: you gotta implement and initiate these guys right now. Jonathan

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00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: Allen can very easily have a Chris Jones type of games,

662
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: very easily taking over. So just because Montese Sweat and

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00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: Chase Younger on that defense line, don't think that that

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Speaker 1: Washington defense, that Washington front seven is not going to

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Speaker 1: get any extra pressure on. That is a gift. Was

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00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Sweat hopefully a prey to He's okay, sure and auto jest,

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00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: but jeezus, that as a huge, huge, probably a sigh

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00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: of relief for a matchup standpoint for Cowboys out there.

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00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: But kind of going back to what Heckman was talking

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Speaker 1: about about blitzing and Washington being very blitz happy. Washington

671
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 1: has blitz on thirty two percent of dropbacks this season.

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00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: That's the fifth most in the NFL, and they've given

673
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: up a ninety five passer rating aloud. That's not good thing,

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00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: which is not very better stop Dak Prescott this year.

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Speaker 1: Just for those wondering on a comparison, Dak Presscott a

676
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: career high and completion percentage, a career high in yards

677
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: of per attent, and a career high and passer rating.

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Speaker 1: Oh and an eight touchdown one interception ratio against quick

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: passes or on quick pass So we welcome, welcome the blitz.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's you mentioned the chess match between

681
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Speaker 1: Ron River and Kellen Moore. I think that's even to

682
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: be a more juicy side of it too, because if

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00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: they back off of the blitz, that's going away from

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Speaker 1: what Washington does. Well, they would have to, but that's

685
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: kind of the thing is Dallas is inviting that, So

686
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: Washington's gonna be the first one to give there and

687
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: to back off from the blitz if they have to. Yeah,

688
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: they're smart enough to show blitz and back off. They're like,

689
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: they're smart enough to show cover too, too safety high

690
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: and it actually be one safety high. You see a

691
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: lot of adjustments being made when you look at their cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: Kendall Fuller, I think, is I guess the one name

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Speaker 1: that I really know and can concentrate on and watching

694
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: him he's okay, So I mean he's you know, it's

695
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,479
Speaker 1: not Reever's island, but he's a guy that you can

696
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: expose on the outside. And they give more yards than

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00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: any team in the league to the X receiver, the

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00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: guy on the outside, and so we got some really

699
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: good axes. They've got some guys on the outside that

700
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 1: can burn them down. And that's why I'm looking for

701
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: these matchups to see will they expose themselves on the

702
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: back half if D goes short pump fake and then

703
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: goes up top on them. So that's when when the

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00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: chess game. I just think that there's some really big

705
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: plays that we can make on the outside, and I'm

706
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: looking to see if we can expose them. I agree,

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Speaker 1: but I think Ron Riveres, we'll see. I believe that

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00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 1: Ron Riveres is a lot smarter than what his what

709
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: his stats are showing. Well, he's continuing to do that.

710
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: He they've won four straight for a reason. They started

711
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: two and sixt like that. Yes he did, so, I mean,

712
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: we will see, we will see. But I mean these guys,

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Speaker 1: I think I can I foresee, right, if I have

714
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: a little crystal ball, see you get you get a

715
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: lottery numbers out of that way. I wish I knew that.

716
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: I foresee a lot of stunts. Our office A line

717
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: has struggled with stunts in terms of Dak, in terms

718
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: of us talking about him not being um, not being

719
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: confident and being able to sit in the pocket and

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Speaker 1: he's not stepping up for whatever reason in the pockets

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Speaker 1: and finding those seams where he can actually deliver the

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Speaker 1: ball with confidence. I foresee a lot of stunts because

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Speaker 1: it's creating a dynamic where it really is like a

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Speaker 1: break in the in the link where these these already

725
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: office alignment are no longer able to work as one

726
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: unit um and these guys are now creating these gaps

727
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Speaker 1: by running these stunts. And I can foresee them blitzing,

728
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: but blitzing one guy. I don't see them doing six seven,

729
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: eight man blitzes. I foresee them doing five men right,

730
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: four men rushing one linebacker and really dropping everybody else

731
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: out right and trying to get hands on guys at

732
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage to not allow them to get

733
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Speaker 1: down the field. That's if I'm run Rivera, That's what

734
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 1: I'm doing against Dallas. Because I said the offensive line,

735
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: they still are not They're not all the way tied

736
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: in and tapped in yet, right, So they we're seeing

737
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: issues out there that they're they're having with stunts, So

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Speaker 1: let's go ahead and stunt them up. Right. I'm gonna

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: send one extra linebacker because I do want to make

740
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: sure we get some pressure on them. But I don't

741
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: want to expose myself too much, right, So I want

742
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Speaker 1: I want to heat them up just a little bit,

743
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't want to put my hand

744
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: on the eye, you know. So if I'm Ron Rivera,

745
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: that's the approach that I'm taking. There's with all these weapons,

746
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: there should be nothing that shuts down Dallas. Let's just

747
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: get that on the table. But that's the other that's

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00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: the approach that I would take. No, that's I mean, hell,

749
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: that's a hell of an approach, especially for an explosive

750
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: offense that you're trying to slow down. And if you're

751
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: gonna fool them dropping everybody out like that, obviously, then

752
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: you're dropping people out in the lanes that Dak is

753
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: going to be trying to throw into. I think the

754
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: other side of that is if you do that, I

755
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: just turned around and hand the ball to Zeke. Yeah,

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: but that's that's the thing that's what I'm saying as

757
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: Ron Rivere knows they're struggling with that, and he knows

758
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: Zeke doesn't have the burst. Zeke's not healthy. Zeke even

759
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: when he had lanes last week, wasn't toting that thing

760
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: the way we know Zeke. He was gimpy. He wants

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00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: to his mind saying go, his body's saying no. Right, so,

762
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: and then if you know you don't have TP as

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00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: somebody that can follow that up and be that check back.

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00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Right now, Ron River is like, we have the advantage. Yeah,

765
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: we know you're wounded. You're a wounded You're wounded right now.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this man, it's been a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And then one problem that I've had with this offense,

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00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: so just the offensive line coach has been this carousel

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00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: that they've been doing with all. I don't agree with it.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that in the third segments. Okay,

771
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: can we go ahead and take our second break, because

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00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: I would love to have that conversation because the Cowboys

773
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: are getting all these weapons back, Dak is back, Ezekiel, Ellie,

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00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: it's healthy, Amari Cooper, Cede Land, Michael Gallub, all of

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00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: these guys on the field for the same time. But

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00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: are we still okay with that offensive line. That's the

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Speaker 1: have Rob back tomorrow. But we've got one more segment

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Speaker 1: here on this Thursday. Gentlemen, let's talk about this offensive line.

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00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: It's not really the best topic of conversation for the

826
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys this year. Wasn't necessarily last year either, But there's

827
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: not a ton of confidence up there right now. So Ema,

828
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Speaker 1: you were asking the question. I want you to go

829
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Speaker 1: through your question that you were asking a moment ago

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Speaker 1: prior to the break. But ultimately I'm looking at this

831
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Speaker 1: as why is it a revolving door? Were you kind

832
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Speaker 1: of right there with it? No, I am man. That's

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Speaker 1: my biggest question is asking the quarterback in the room

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Speaker 1: if you had a situation where you're having to change

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Speaker 1: out your offensive lineman for you when you're taking the

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Speaker 1: snap and you're getting a snapshot of where everybody is.

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Speaker 1: It's a trust thing for quarterbacks. And if you were

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Speaker 1: having a different guy at the position, like your right

839
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: tackle is ever changing, you're already dealing with your left

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00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 1: tackle situation and your guard. With that change your mind

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Speaker 1: state from a quarterback position on how you go through

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Speaker 1: your reads knowing that, hey, the guy that I trusted

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Speaker 1: that was here at first, with the guy that I

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Speaker 1: trusted over here, he's not there anymore. With that change

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Speaker 1: your mind state as a quarterback, I would say no

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00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: unless that individual was constantly giving up pressures. Now at

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Speaker 1: that individual, if I have to keep my you know,

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Speaker 1: if I have to take my eyes from being downfield

849
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Speaker 1: to that I'm I'm at the corner of my eye

850
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: because I need to know that this dude may or

851
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: may not be giving us some pressure that would change

852
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: my ability to read read the coverage to be able

853
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: to step up and diagnose where I need to be

854
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: able to diagnose and deliver the rock accurately. But overall,

855
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: I've had that happened before and know because you have

856
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: so many other things to be worried about. You know,

857
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: you're thinking about communicating to the offensive line at that point,

858
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: I think I would you have to turn up your

859
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: communication to ensure that everybody's on the same page. Hey,

860
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: someone fifty five's of Mike, Hey, we were going here,

861
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: We're going to Liz, Liz, We're going to rip, rip,

862
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Making sure that those guys understand

863
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 1: where they're going, so that you know that you've at

864
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: least given them the proper directions, you know, and that

865
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: you can go about your business now if they fail

866
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: to do what they need to do, you know, you

867
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: slap them on the bud, give them a little love,

868
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: and then that's for coach Philbin to take care of,

869
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: which we didn't have last week right now. And the

870
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: only reason I ask that is that you know, I

871
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: can only equate a think from a defensive standpoint of

872
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 1: just knowing where everybody's going to be on the field,

873
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: and if a guy is in there that I'm not

874
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: familiar with I haven't played with that, that kind of

875
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: throws my train of thought off because if I'm going

876
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: on a blitz through the a gap here and we're

877
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: stunting together. I know the rhythm in which we do that,

878
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: and they may change. For a quarterback, I couldn't even

879
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: imagine playing quarterback because hell, first of all, you got

880
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: people coming at you and then you got to look

881
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: up the field at the same time. But so that's

882
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: why I asked that question. I think it's changed our

883
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: offense tremendously by having this revolving door at the at

884
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: the offensive line position. And that's one of the things

885
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: that I hope I don't like. I know we're mad

886
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 1: at lael at for the beginning of the season. Yea,

887
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: I understand, right slap on the risk and maybe you

888
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: know it's a punishment. I don't know what it is,

889
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: but at some point we have to agree that Layel

890
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: is the best option to right tackle. I'm hoping that

891
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: we all see that we I mean, in the past,

892
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: based off of what he's done for sure. But let's

893
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: play a little game right here. Okay, I've got a

894
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: game for you guys. I need like some game show music.

895
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: So this is guess the pressure rate? Oh yes, Chris

896
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: p all right, Uh, guess the pressure rate. What do

897
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: you think in terms of in between let's say zero

898
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: and five percent pressure rate on Lyo Collins right now

899
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: this season? How much is he given up pressures? Between

900
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: zero and five percent? Zero and five percent? Yeah, that's

901
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean, that's where the number is. So I'm trying

902
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: to say, so, like between zero and five, where do

903
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 1: you think he's at? I give him two point seven?

904
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 1: Two point seven? Okay, I'm gonna go three three. Okay,

905
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: what about Taren Steele? Two two two two? So you

906
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: think he's better than than Lyle Collins? That clessure? Okay, man,

907
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go higher because I already said that. I think. Well,

908
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: then wait a minute, I couldn't be backing you up here.

909
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: You could be, But then I think he's better at

910
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: the door. Don't come me down. I think Leo's been

911
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 1: at the run right now than maybe still lives a past.

912
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: So let me that maybe a problem. So god, I'm

913
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: gonna go two. Okay. Lyo Collins is giving up a

914
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: three point eight pressure rate, three point eight, whereas Terren

915
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: Steel is at three point five. Come on, So he's

916
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: been a little bit better this year and that's one

917
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: more snaps too, because Lyle's plays three hundred and sixty

918
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: five snaps this year and Lyo Collins played fourteen so

919
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: consistency wise, Tarren Steele is actually from a statistical standpoint,

920
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying the numbers are everything. We know

921
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: that on this show. They know that. On the other

922
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: side of the building, Yeah, numbers are not everything, but

923
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: the numbers there say that there's a potential. Now I'm

924
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: gonna go Isaiah stand back on this one man. Statistics

925
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: out the window. Because you you've seen, you've got you've

926
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: got a sample size of steel and what he's done,

927
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: and it's a good problem. We feel good about the

928
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: future of our tackle position because of Terrence Steele. I

929
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: just think that Leo Collins going missing him last year

930
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: was big. We saw that, but I just believe he's

931
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: so stronger and if you're gonna establish the run, there

932
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: are just things that he can do. He can be

933
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: better in pass protecting at three point eight is ugly.

934
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know that that's ugly, but he's got to

935
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: get better. And if you're Zach Martin, when when Steal's

936
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: in there versus Collins in there, who do you feel

937
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: more confident about Leo Collins? Why because of the because

938
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: of the past, because of this year. I'm just hey, man,

939
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm talk about this year. I'm talking about this year, Garlins.

940
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: I take this is both for their first years in

941
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the league, right, and the only thing you're going off

942
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: of what they've shown you this year? But come on, no, no,

943
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But this is when we start

944
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: talking about the culture of the team, right. Are we

945
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna base guys based off Are we gonna judge guys

946
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: based upon what they've done in the past or what

947
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: have you done for me lately? I'm gonna I'm definitely

948
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 1: gonna go it's a what have you done for me lately? Business?

949
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: So I'm still if I'm if I'm Zach Martin, I

950
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: feel better with Leo Collins. I wonder if I wonder

951
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: if he's I'm sure this. He's been a part of

952
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: that conversation, right, He's had to be. Do you think

953
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: they would include him on that process? For him, I

954
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: could guarantee you that. I mean, when he steps to

955
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 1: the line of screams, you look over he's like, we

956
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: can't do this or we can't do this. I mean,

957
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: it's like us coming into the studio and not having

958
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. I mean, we're still gonna have a fun show.

959
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: But Rob Phillips, it's not the same. It's not there's

960
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: a mindset deal with it. It's the same thing with

961
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: Zach Martin in the way that he has a guy

962
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: to Let's just say that this offensive line in totality

963
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: is struggled. Let's go to the Chris Jones game and say, hey,

964
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: even Zach Martin got some business in the Kansas game.

965
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Do we have to go to the Christians? Oh? No,

966
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: we got to because we're saying that Jonathan Allen is

967
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: the smaller size of that man that gave us trouble

968
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: in the A Gap. We have to return to that.

969
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: But I think the thing is is that we continue

970
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: to pile on the running game and ask how can

971
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: we get this thing re established without giving credence to

972
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: the fact that we've been having different faces at the

973
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: offensive line. That's all I'm saying. And I just think

974
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: that continuity with Zach Martin and be oddish on the

975
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: right side, I feel better about that. Yes, he hit

976
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: me with the high I believe that a little. That's it,

977
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: all right, That's how we're gonna on the show. That's

978
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: how we're done. It's like it's like the White's buying

979
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: your fresh pair of fresh packs of draws. You know

980
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like they did not, none of we

981
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: ever gonna get broken on back to the draws draws.

982
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: Wasn't that a terrance steal conversation? We were talking about steal?

983
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Ain't we fresh pair of draws? You do? You want

984
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: to have the same fourteen pairs of draws? Or you

985
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: want to have a fresh rotation or new one's coming

986
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: new packs? Well, I think the fresh rotations, the fresh rotation.

987
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: I want the one I want the ones that nights

988
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 1: are broken in. We could have said that with shirts.

989
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: We could have said it draws. Everybody can relate to draws,

990
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: especially the fellas. You don't want the fresh drawls. I

991
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: got this anyways, Next show, where's Tommy John Where we

992
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: gotta get our sponsorship in here? All right? That's it

993
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: for us here. I was talking Cowboys for Chris Bean,

994
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: for heck My Harrison, Isaiah stand back, I'm Kyle Yeoman's

995
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: join us tomorrow. We've got our pickups. We've got to

996
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: say it with your chest Friday. We've got a special

997
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: guest picker on the way. Larna will join us tomorrow.

998
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: We'll be back. Thanks for joining us here on Talking Cowboys,

999
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,120
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