Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is a terrific Tuesday edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots inside the s to BBC podcast studio
Speaker 1: as the Cowboys turn their attention towards the playoff bound
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardoffs. Playoff bound but reeling Arizona Cardinals taking on
Speaker 1: the rolling playoff bound Dallas Cowboys on Sunday at at
Speaker 1: and T Stadium. Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: on this one of the anniversary of one of the
Speaker 1: greatest days in Cowboys history, December twenty December twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five. Oh yeah, come on, guys, you don't
Speaker 1: give me a break that hell there rogers stop back
Speaker 1: to Drew Pearson. So there you go, right man, He'll marry.
Speaker 1: So that's twenty five forty six. Lets that lets you
Speaker 1: know I was bound forty six years bound Dallas Cowboy today. Hello, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm bound to be a Dallas cat. What did you
Speaker 1: do when that player? Hey, man, I might tell you
Speaker 1: I was. That was my birthday. My mom was in
Speaker 1: there making a cake, and boy, when he caught that pass,
Speaker 1: I was so faking happy. I came skipping into the kitchen. Mom,
Speaker 1: Cowboys just won the game. She's like, Okay, that's great whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to remember if I actually was watching
Speaker 1: the game on TV, I was dying. I was happy
Speaker 1: to be watching the game. There was no other game
Speaker 1: on team. It was a playoffs, a wild card playoff games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I might have been working. He was. That was
Speaker 1: my first year, nice out of college. Really, yeah, Missouri
Speaker 1: wasn't in a bowl game. I was. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: in Chicago. I was working in Anderson, South Carolina. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say he was somewhere Mississippi, somewhere down there.
Speaker 1: I was shocking a place where Italians are just revered
Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah. Let me tell you how many
Speaker 1: back in nineteen seventy six, how many times I was
Speaker 1: called Yankee down there? And you might as well go
Speaker 1: back home, right? Did you should have adopted an accent?
Speaker 1: Appreciate me one they knew you were Yankee by the
Speaker 1: way you just typed your work. I think one of
Speaker 1: the first interviews on the phone I did with some
Speaker 1: coach and they was telling me it was a high
Speaker 1: school deal and they were telling me what league they
Speaker 1: were in, and it was the pell Metal League. I
Speaker 1: had never heard of a pell Metal tree, right, And
Speaker 1: I was like, what they go, pell metto South Carolina,
Speaker 1: the Palmetto state it might have been. No, it is not.
Speaker 1: There is a state, though, there is? Is it like
Speaker 1: a uh magnolia tree? Sort? Okay, okay, there you go.
Speaker 1: And I got the when I didn't ask him, could
Speaker 1: you spell that? Guys? Where are you from? Yeah? There go?
Speaker 1: All right, I'm having to look up the Palmetto Yeah,
Speaker 1: South Carolina it is. It is the Palmettos state. So
Speaker 1: that was the reason the conference and I didn't learn it, Yes,
Speaker 1: I right. And I also and I also learned that
Speaker 1: the Civil War was still being about too, yeah, no
Speaker 1: doubt and still being fought in Yes, all right, so
Speaker 1: it is for Tuesday watching it? Of course I was
Speaker 1: watching it. Of course I was. Was it a Sunday?
Speaker 1: It was a Sunday, it was, yes, it was. Church
Speaker 1: was done by then, So I don't think I went
Speaker 1: that day because I was I was watching the game.
Speaker 1: I was watching the whole game, and Mom was making
Speaker 1: the cake, and I remember it was the Vikings you speaking, okay, cake.
Speaker 1: We had forgotten it was your birthday cake. Up cake.
Speaker 1: In fact, there they are, Chris, count them up, Chris,
Speaker 1: count them up? How many cakes are there? This? This
Speaker 1: eleven eleven? Here we go, guys. Don't catch the microphone
Speaker 1: off fire. Alcohol might catch fire. Guys, good job. All right,
Speaker 1: you gonna make a wish, I'm gonna make it. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna sing Happy birthday? I don't sing. Okay, good,
Speaker 1: all right, you made your wish? I did, all right.
Speaker 1: You gotta get them all? There you go, you got
Speaker 1: one more? There you go. I'm so glad they didn't. God,
Speaker 1: that's what I was worried about. Yeah, exactly. Oh came back.
Speaker 1: It's one of those candles that doesn't get this done.
Speaker 1: There you go, put that over there before the water.
Speaker 1: You know why I bought those because they were supposed
Speaker 1: to be sparkle candles. Yeah, they were sparkling, flaming. We
Speaker 1: do have a sprinkler, sister, be careful, could gallery thank you?
Speaker 1: Guys man, Happy birthday, Thank Birthday, very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Sixty two By the way, if sixty two sixty two
Speaker 1: years old, good thing we didn't have sixty two can
Speaker 1: thank god you do that. But that's why I knew
Speaker 1: I was bound to be a cowboy. That day that
Speaker 1: sealed it for growing up in Hamilton Park. I died
Speaker 1: with every loss. I know you did too. Of the
Speaker 1: Kings used to kick our butts before that day, so
Speaker 1: Vikings owned us still high school then I was sixteen, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was junior junior in high school. Yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: I hated the Purple people either because they would kick
Speaker 1: out butts every time. And this was the time we
Speaker 1: find the guy. You know what kind of did it
Speaker 1: kind of in the in the brain of the Vikings
Speaker 1: did it? Did it? Did it? Should it did? Because
Speaker 1: before that was Chuck Foreman and all those guys for
Speaker 1: talking to him. Yeah, they had talent on them. They
Speaker 1: kept going to the Super bowls, kept losing them, kept
Speaker 1: losing them to him. Not as bad as Buffalo, but yeah,
Speaker 1: what hell? Four? It's four depends on if you're a
Speaker 1: Vikings fan or not. Right, well, so good. That's a
Speaker 1: good way to kick off the show. I still fell
Speaker 1: feel the sopha in my nose. All right, Mickey, so
Speaker 1: what do you what do you you got? Oh? Wow,
Speaker 1: you got a legal pad full of stuff. You got
Speaker 1: papers strewn across the table in front of you. So
Speaker 1: today we'd like to start. Today's the first day that
Speaker 1: teams without head coaches can ask for permission UH to
Speaker 1: interview assistant coaches in the league. And it's being reported
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville has asked permission of the Cowboys for Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn and Kellen Moore UH and also have asked permission
Speaker 1: UH for Doug Peterson, Todd Bowles and Byron Leftwich. Well,
Speaker 1: they don't have to ask permission for for Peter Peterson.
Speaker 1: They just want to interview us. And I think they
Speaker 1: already did brought him because Peterson didn't have a job, right,
Speaker 1: and then Todd Bowles and Byron Leftwich both at Tampa Bay. Right,
Speaker 1: So that's kicked off the start. Who's the other team?
Speaker 1: That's there's two teams need to already fired their coaches.
Speaker 1: It was jack it was what Jacksonville and the Raiders Sarraiders,
Speaker 1: that's right. Well, I don't know Besacchi is going to
Speaker 1: get him in the play off. He may he may
Speaker 1: earn that job. Can they interview him? So do we
Speaker 1: have anyone? Do we have any of Dan's disciples? Uh?
Speaker 1: And and I'll get to that and so uh. Quinn
Speaker 1: was asked about it on Monday and his response was,
Speaker 1: I'll be ready if the right scenario presents itself. I
Speaker 1: wasn't coming here to look what my next job would be.
Speaker 1: I wanted to come here and have a blast and
Speaker 1: hopefully kick ass and make an it. Well he's doing that.
Speaker 1: So and then Kellen Moore's response on Friday, if the
Speaker 1: opportunity shows up, that would be awesome. But we've got
Speaker 1: a lot to take care of with this thing here first.
Speaker 1: So what you would expect the coaches to say? Uh,
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, you know the head coach always it's definitely
Speaker 1: well deserving and they're ready, so you embrace that basically, opportunity.
Speaker 1: I think these jobs are hired to get. So that
Speaker 1: was his response on Monday during his media session. Okay,
Speaker 1: and so now what is the process If they want
Speaker 1: they want to interview them, when can they interview them?
Speaker 1: So I read because the process used to be that
Speaker 1: we had to wait until after the season, right, And
Speaker 1: I one of the reports said that for the Cowboy
Speaker 1: coaches that was going to be virtually so somebody in
Speaker 1: to get them away from what's going on. Another thing
Speaker 1: that's come from the pandemic where you can just zoom
Speaker 1: an interview and do something face to face, right yea,
Speaker 1: And so they can do that as early as this week.
Speaker 1: They starting today if they get permission, because today's the
Speaker 1: first day. I think we're going to put a game
Speaker 1: plane in today, So we're not going to do We're
Speaker 1: not going to that. But once the hay is in
Speaker 1: the barn, as they say, maybe even Friday, I think
Speaker 1: will approve that. What do you think? So it said
Speaker 1: that they're allowed to ask for permission in weeks seventeen
Speaker 1: and eighteen of the season and then they can didn't
Speaker 1: say anything about week nineteen because the way the rule
Speaker 1: has been for a team to that point. What the
Speaker 1: rule has been here most recently is a team that
Speaker 1: had a bye in the first round of the playoffs,
Speaker 1: they could interview and an assistant coach could interview during
Speaker 1: that week and then but once it got to game week,
Speaker 1: they were And so now what they've changed on the
Speaker 1: rule these last two weeks of the regular season, They're
Speaker 1: going to give them permission to interview for the jobs
Speaker 1: and then they can focus on the taskt brand and
Speaker 1: you would only have one team. That would I mean
Speaker 1: with the old rule, you would have more possibilities, right
Speaker 1: because there's more teams with buys now with one, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be another reason why they would relax that
Speaker 1: rule cut down the canon. Now. I didn't hear Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn's press conference yesterday, but I did see a tweaked
Speaker 1: about that. Something that he said about, uh, he wishes
Speaker 1: they would tweak the rules as far if an assistant
Speaker 1: coach got the head coaching job elsewhere moving on to
Speaker 1: that new position quickly, did he say something about that.
Speaker 1: I don't Okay, maybe he didn't. Don't recall like he
Speaker 1: wants no, no, not not for him personally, but that
Speaker 1: for the rule that a coach could go ahead and
Speaker 1: take on his new job before he's done here in
Speaker 1: coe like in college. Yeah. For instance, for instance, an
Speaker 1: assistant coach, especially Joey MacGuire at Baylor, he was the
Speaker 1: assistant head coach and three weeks left in the season
Speaker 1: he got the Texas Tech job and they let him
Speaker 1: go at that point. Yeah, there was nothing said, there
Speaker 1: was nothing talked about about that. Yeah, okay, and I
Speaker 1: think that would be like quitting and taking a college
Speaker 1: job before the season's over. What happens all the time?
Speaker 1: It happened, It happened here. What's that? What's I don't understand? No,
Speaker 1: that was it happened here, and it was it was
Speaker 1: with the blessing zat They booted them all out, They
Speaker 1: showed him the door. I think they pulled some strings
Speaker 1: to get him the job at Oklahoma. But remember we
Speaker 1: talked a week or so ago about Atlanta, right with
Speaker 1: who was it went to Arkansas? Petrino right left his
Speaker 1: staff high and dry there and Zimmer was on that
Speaker 1: staff and he was still hot over there. If you ever,
Speaker 1: if you ever look up that interview on YouTube, it's
Speaker 1: a good one because he let him have it. The
Speaker 1: next year he was okay. You know in on the
Speaker 1: in the at the college level, there's a there's a
Speaker 1: real especially with that early signing day. Yeah, there is
Speaker 1: a real reason why a coach needs to get to
Speaker 1: his college job. He's got he's got it, can recruit immediately,
Speaker 1: and that's why we saw this year, uh, the colleges
Speaker 1: making firings during the regular season and basically hirings during
Speaker 1: the regular season so that their new coach can hit
Speaker 1: the ground running recruiting. From an NFL standpoint, what is
Speaker 1: the advantage I mean, outside of just preparing, you know,
Speaker 1: and studying your new roster and being at the Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and uh and so forth, what is the advantage
Speaker 1: of going on to your new job, Because well, I
Speaker 1: would think you want to start putting your staff together, right,
Speaker 1: that would be one. But if guys still are under condy,
Speaker 1: I'd still be working in and that would be the
Speaker 1: main reason. Right. But if you had, like for instance,
Speaker 1: in at the college level right now this week, Dan
Speaker 1: Lanning is the new head coach at Oregon, right okay,
Speaker 1: And he's been announced as the new head coach at Oregon,
Speaker 1: but he is staying as the defensive coordinator at Georgia
Speaker 1: because they're playing in this playoff and he is going
Speaker 1: to be calling the defense that's on Friday for the
Speaker 1: Georgia Bulldogs at their national semifinal game. And so can you.
Speaker 1: There's no reason for the NFL to what said, oh,
Speaker 1: you also has a few guys that are coaching in
Speaker 1: their bowl game and then gonna go out to USC.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, and that's what usually I think they're gone.
Speaker 1: We don't want that, we don't want them around. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm going to forget his name. Your former quarterback at
Speaker 1: OU that left Missouri. He as the offensive coordinator, Josh Hypel.
Speaker 1: Josh Hypel, he was at Tennessee head coach at Tennessee,
Speaker 1: Missouri played their bowl. Oh yeah, and that happens all
Speaker 1: the time. And he took the tight end coach with it. No,
Speaker 1: he took the other coach with him, and so a
Speaker 1: tight end coach who had never called plays became the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Right. How do you think that bowl game
Speaker 1: turned turn out? You know, you know what happened in
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, who now the Cowboys playing the first no.
Speaker 1: But he went from Texas A and M. He was
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator at Texas A and M. Johnny Manzell
Speaker 1: was his quarterback and he got the Texas Tech head
Speaker 1: coaching job. He left before A and M played Oklahoma
Speaker 1: in the Cotton Bowl, and he basically the assistant coaches
Speaker 1: were running the show, and it was it was Clarence Shellman,
Speaker 1: who was a running backs coach who was calling plays
Speaker 1: and a GA by the name of Riley Dodge, who
Speaker 1: was helping him call plays in that Cotton Bowl, which
Speaker 1: was a lopsided blowout win for Texas A and m
Speaker 1: Over Oklahoma. It worked out really well for them in
Speaker 1: that game. But to your point, Everson, this Dan Lanning
Speaker 1: staying on at Georgia uh and and already being and
Speaker 1: and being actively the head coach at Oregon is is
Speaker 1: very unusual. And the only time they do it at
Speaker 1: the college level is if you're in the college playoffs.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's these other bowl games are but I
Speaker 1: can't see when you talk about the head coaching job,
Speaker 1: when is this? When is the Senior Bowl being played?
Speaker 1: Is it before the Super Bowl? Is? Yes? This that's
Speaker 1: why as a as a pro coach, you kind of
Speaker 1: want to be in position with your new team at
Speaker 1: that Senior Bowl. If you're not, if your team's not
Speaker 1: the playoffs and or you yeah, or you need permission
Speaker 1: to go down there. Although you know what for the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, and one of the important things there is
Speaker 1: the in person interviews and set up. But the practices
Speaker 1: you can get them on tape, but that's not why
Speaker 1: they Yeah, like you said, they go there to talk
Speaker 1: to the kids right, Yeah, but you can send the
Speaker 1: scouts there and they do a really good job. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they get in the way of the media after the
Speaker 1: practice sessions, so you know they're doing a good job. Okay, look,
Speaker 1: let's look at it at this situation. Let's say whether
Speaker 1: it's Jacksonville, Las Vegas, whoever it might be. They decide
Speaker 1: they want to hire either Kellen Moore or Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: as their head coach, and they make that decision by
Speaker 1: January twelfth, which is before the playoffs start. Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn they are not leaving this job until
Speaker 1: it is seen all the way through the end, and
Speaker 1: hopefully that would be all the way through the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Even though so it could be, could it be announced
Speaker 1: that they are the new head coach of the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars on January whenever that decision. The still stay with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys all way and and trusting both sides, trusting
Speaker 1: that the guys opposed as opposed to what happened with
Speaker 1: SMU and TCU this year. TCU had their opening on Halloween.
Speaker 1: They basically a week later decided they were hiring the
Speaker 1: SMU head coach, Sonny Dikes as their coach, but and
Speaker 1: SMU had a lot to play for. They did not
Speaker 1: play well down the stretch. In fact, they lost I
Speaker 1: think the last three games or four of the last
Speaker 1: five or whatever. And then after the SMU season was over,
Speaker 1: they went ahead and made the announcement that Sonny Dikes
Speaker 1: is the new head coach at TCU. The decisions, the
Speaker 1: decision had already been made before that, but it was
Speaker 1: never announced. So I'm wondering, will the NFL handle it
Speaker 1: differently and go ahead and make the announcement or it
Speaker 1: will How do you keep something like that secret. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't. It wasn't a secret. It was with Sunny
Speaker 1: Dikes exactly. Yeah, they tried to make it seem like
Speaker 1: it was a secret. The truth is like water. They'll
Speaker 1: find its own level, all right. And speaking of the truth, Okay,
Speaker 1: before we go to this, I want to clarify on
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings because I said that that kind of
Speaker 1: the Hail Mary kind of ended their run. Well, actually
Speaker 1: it did not kind of end their run, because the
Speaker 1: next year they lost in the Super Bowl in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy six, and then they lost in the conference championship
Speaker 1: game in nineteen seventy seven. Let's see who might so
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Speaker 1: was perfect, all right, you got much more. You know,
Speaker 1: we didn't get to a whole lot of on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night's game because we dwelled so much and rightly so
Speaker 1: on the eleven interceptions. And we talked to Marcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: some yesterday's show. Any other nuggets from Sunday night that
Speaker 1: I got one, and I got one, so good. Let
Speaker 1: me go first the birthday boy, Thank you, floor first drive, Yes,
Speaker 1: our last third down play. I was just going to
Speaker 1: bring what the heck man, what are we doing? That
Speaker 1: was that plan was a great design. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about that driving in that's amazing, said that I was
Speaker 1: going to present it what was the worst play from
Speaker 1: the game, but it could have been the best if
Speaker 1: he didn't drop. Here. Here's the amazing thing about that,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the week before, have you ever
Speaker 1: seen that play? I had not. I want to say
Speaker 1: I have before. The week before the New York Jets
Speaker 1: ran that same play, and I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was an end of games scenario, but I saw a
Speaker 1: tweet and I retweeted it at the time when I
Speaker 1: saw it the week before, and actually passed it on
Speaker 1: to a friend. Braxton Barriosum was on the I think
Speaker 1: he was in the Yamari Cooper role and the receiving
Speaker 1: end of the past from another player, and he has
Speaker 1: some family that live here that you know, and so
Speaker 1: I passed it onto them. Hey, Braxton made a play
Speaker 1: what He also had a kickoff return for a touchdown
Speaker 1: this week. But anyway, but it was amazing because I
Speaker 1: saw that play and then the Cowboys basically ran the
Speaker 1: same play, and I was like, now is he add living? Noah,
Speaker 1: Maari was setting. So I'm sitting there wondering do these
Speaker 1: play callers in the do they like text each other
Speaker 1: and hey, look what play I ran. No, tried to
Speaker 1: hide it, but then hey, Kellen saw it. I must
Speaker 1: have been what happened, because I'm sure you not only
Speaker 1: was a Mary waiting. I think I saw CD blocking.
Speaker 1: I saw CD blocking after he pitched it. After he
Speaker 1: pitched it, and he was blocking the guys away from
Speaker 1: the sideline because Mary's on the sideline. CD was blocking
Speaker 1: to shield them from the sideline, like inside inside. He
Speaker 1: pushed them back inside. Now that's not what you want
Speaker 1: them because that's what Cedric was going. But but it's like,
Speaker 1: is it an option play for the receiver? Okay? Because
Speaker 1: Cedric had a decision to make it as he I mean,
Speaker 1: he was approaching first, the first step, and he had
Speaker 1: some players in that way. I understood the decision that Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't get there, I'm gonna go ahead. But I
Speaker 1: would imagine he has that option. That's where it was.
Speaker 1: It was like an RPO. It was an RPO judging
Speaker 1: or judging from what he didn't do on the fake
Speaker 1: punt against Washington last year. They probably told him pitch
Speaker 1: the thing, don't hold on to it, but he judging job,
Speaker 1: judging by the reaction just the body language of the
Speaker 1: head coach on the sideline. Yes, it looked like the
Speaker 1: head coach would have preferred to go ahead and try
Speaker 1: to get that. First reaction was Kyle, we set up
Speaker 1: another good play, didn't That's what I'm thinking, catch the ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: he was like that because the he dropped the ball.
Speaker 1: But if he catches that ball, man, we're looking like genius.
Speaker 1: And he had to make sure the pitch was behind
Speaker 1: Sure it was. Did Cooper have to turn to No?
Speaker 1: It was right, it was behind I know the past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. It went it was a lad
Speaker 1: one yeah yeah right, yeah, absolutely, But I was trying
Speaker 1: to remember if it was behind Cooper, did he have
Speaker 1: to turn or was it in front of him where
Speaker 1: he could catch everything? You see, it didn't he did.
Speaker 1: He just pivoted. Yeah, it hit him here right right,
Speaker 1: And I don't so, I don't know. He had a
Speaker 1: lane up. The sideline's so busy. Look I think he
Speaker 1: was excited. Yeah, it's like, oh, this isn't gonna work.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's my that's ok. I realized we forgot
Speaker 1: to talk about. Yeah that was because that was the
Speaker 1: only U really mistake that they made the entire game.
Speaker 1: That's all I saw. If you're gonna knitpick, then that's
Speaker 1: how that at first drive culminated. And that's not what
Speaker 1: we wanted in that regard. So after that, no hiccups
Speaker 1: at all. Of course, perfect game otherwise, can you um
Speaker 1: they only had three penalties for like fifteen yards? Here
Speaker 1: did we have a fumble anytime? Here's what I saw
Speaker 1: after they punted on that first possession. It was touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 1: I love that now one of them. One of them
Speaker 1: was the interception repurci the picks. And then you start
Speaker 1: the second half and there was a three and out right,
Speaker 1: and then it was a touchdown on special teams and
Speaker 1: touchdown on the special teams. Yes, and then it's tough
Speaker 1: to knit after that, huh. But yeah. So I think
Speaker 1: one of the things we probably didn't talk enough about
Speaker 1: was Zeke was running like Zeke. The numbers don't reflect, no,
Speaker 1: they don't, but the touchdown run did. The fact that
Speaker 1: he got into the clear on the touchdown reception where
Speaker 1: it was a play fake, he went into the line
Speaker 1: and veered out and he was running well. So that
Speaker 1: means in LA and I made a point of this,
Speaker 1: I think two weeks ago that they other than Pollard's
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard touchdown run, they just don't run the
Speaker 1: ball in the end zone, especially in the red zone. Yes,
Speaker 1: and now in consecutive weeks he's got a thirteen yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run in eleven yard touchdown run and they finished
Speaker 1: it off diving for the pylons. So I can't believe
Speaker 1: whatever that whatever that need braces doing, it's working. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And he called the past and they called the past
Speaker 1: right Yeah. In the red zone, yes, so we were
Speaker 1: clicking in the red zone. Were six or six of
Speaker 1: the red after three of thirteen was it? Or three
Speaker 1: of eleven? And I mean, let's, you know, let's put
Speaker 1: things into perspective. We know out the way it was
Speaker 1: supposed to. You could clearly see that some of the
Speaker 1: backups had no idea what they were doing. The play
Speaker 1: to Elliott looked just as the play to Shouts. They
Speaker 1: didn't cover either one of them. They're still not close
Speaker 1: to covering those. So you could see where especially number
Speaker 1: twenty in the defensive backfield for the for the Washington,
Speaker 1: he was never on his man right. He always looked lost,
Speaker 1: and they were playing backup linebacker. Yes they were. It
Speaker 1: was a lot of backup stuff going on. But what
Speaker 1: what it gave you a chance to do was to
Speaker 1: clarify what you need to do offensively. This is what
Speaker 1: it's supposed to look like. And when you talk about
Speaker 1: zis running, the running is not spectacular, but it's affective
Speaker 1: because then it's moving the chains. Yes, and it's we're
Speaker 1: getting enough on first down the second down to where
Speaker 1: they have to respect that run and they're bringing that
Speaker 1: safety down. We just want to bring that safety down.
Speaker 1: Once he comes down, then we're going to feast on
Speaker 1: the outside. So I'm loving it. So sort of like
Speaker 1: the problems when you have your fourth quarterbacks starting last
Speaker 1: night and a backup backup? Right, how's that guy they had?
Speaker 1: They had? They played fifty seven different players, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: on the Saints. Did they say it like this a
Speaker 1: record in the well, no meaning all season? They because
Speaker 1: they they played more than that. I'm sure. In regards
Speaker 1: to no starters, I think starters starters. There you go,
Speaker 1: starters fifty seven, that's a record, that's a record. I
Speaker 1: think the red Skins are right behind them. That's like
Speaker 1: the Rangers pitching staff. They've gone through some secs where
Speaker 1: they've used fifty seven starters. I think that was maybe
Speaker 1: not starters. And I think that the worst part for
Speaker 1: Ian book was he didn't find out. I don't know
Speaker 1: how if he got a practice or two in uh
Speaker 1: and then they couldn't block. I mean they were over
Speaker 1: for nine on third down at one point they gained
Speaker 1: they had one. They actually gained positive yardies once once
Speaker 1: positive positive judies. Yeah, first positives. So even though they
Speaker 1: didn't have a book on the Saints quarterback, they handled
Speaker 1: them pretty well. Here we go. The poor the poor
Speaker 1: right tackle couldn't block anybody. They tried to diagram one
Speaker 1: play on why the blitz got there. And they were
Speaker 1: talking about the inside guy, you know, circling around and
Speaker 1: I'm going, all you do is look at the right tackle.
Speaker 1: He blew his block. The guy went right around him
Speaker 1: like he was a tomb. It's like, I don't care
Speaker 1: what kind of game they played inside if that guy
Speaker 1: didn't get him, that guy was getting Tayton and then
Speaker 1: he couldn't get a break on call. Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: dogging him. Yeah, it's something about the Saint. We we
Speaker 1: we fussed all the time cowboys, Yeah, about getting bad calls.
Speaker 1: He's right, they are the most they are the most
Speaker 1: consistent team and getting the worst calls. He must have
Speaker 1: been on that competition committee and gave a bunch of
Speaker 1: those officials bad grades. He had so much to do
Speaker 1: before the half. He wants to fussing one of his
Speaker 1: players and get that straight. And before he did that,
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, come in, come in talking to the beflee.
Speaker 1: We got to talk because he had just given the
Speaker 1: bogus call and he wasn't talking. He was yelling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was all right, there's more from that legal pad
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Speaker 1: change into that stadium more excited than they were on
Speaker 1: Sunday night. Big crowd, Big crowd. Yeah, I was go ahead,
Speaker 1: I was going to say as Jerry said when he
Speaker 1: was asked about the crowd today on his fan report,
Speaker 1: he said, they were so excited. They were eight the
Speaker 1: popcorn boxes. Not just he has got them, he has
Speaker 1: got the most awards. Smith. Yes, he's like you, He's
Speaker 1: just he's his own words. Smith. Um. I was doing
Speaker 1: live shots yesterday in the Plaza Tostitos Championship Plaza and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of activity there yesterday,
Speaker 1: a lot of fans just hanging out and basking in
Speaker 1: the glory of a victory Monday. And one little kid
Speaker 1: came up to me and I said, so, what do
Speaker 1: you think of that game yesterday? Hey, Dak won the
Speaker 1: my fantasy football championship for me? Right now, about a
Speaker 1: twelve year old kid? And what were you doing out there? Bill? Well,
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in just second. Home. From a
Speaker 1: fantasy football perspective, Okay, it's crazy right now as people
Speaker 1: that play fantasy football out there. I've got I'm in
Speaker 1: three leagues and I literally don't pay attention to these
Speaker 1: teams all week long. Why are you in it? I
Speaker 1: got a family one, I've got a neighborhood one, and
Speaker 1: I've got one here at Cowboys TV. Okay, and so
Speaker 1: it literally is right before kickoff before I each week
Speaker 1: look at the light up and realized, oh, I gotta
Speaker 1: make these adjustments. Okay. So somehow I was in the
Speaker 1: in two leagues. I was in the in the semifinals
Speaker 1: this past Sunday, and so I look at my team
Speaker 1: and I went on one of my teams. I had
Speaker 1: literally six guys in my starting light up who were
Speaker 1: out COVID or injury or whatever, and so I just
Speaker 1: had to start picking up guys off their way. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me show you. I picked up Damien Harris, the
Speaker 1: new England running back, who for some reason was out there.
Speaker 1: He got twenty eight points. I picked up Justin Jackson,
Speaker 1: he got me thirty points. The only guy that I
Speaker 1: really had on the team was T Higgins Cincinnati. He
Speaker 1: got me. I picked up Joshua Palmer the Chargers, he
Speaker 1: got me twelve point eight points. Dawson knocks of the
Speaker 1: Bills because Kelsey was out, you got me eight points whatever.
Speaker 1: And then and I just blew away my opponent. Nice
Speaker 1: on both of What does that tell you, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It tells you don't have to study hard. That a
Speaker 1: fantasy is I never got into that. I never did either.
Speaker 1: It's just really in the last five to seven and
Speaker 1: eight year or something like that, I just just try.
Speaker 1: We would we have a neighborhood fantasy draft party, and
Speaker 1: then everybody in the neighborhood just forgets about it all season. Basically.
Speaker 1: It's just it's bringing the nerds into sports. That's what
Speaker 1: I tried that, which is a good thing. One summer
Speaker 1: with baseball, when it was and I don't remember what
Speaker 1: it was called, somebody quit a league and buddy of
Speaker 1: mine said, oh, you can take it over. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Right. Well, it's all based on percentage, right,
Speaker 1: and you have your roster. It's not fantasy. You got
Speaker 1: to manage your roster. So I would be stubborn. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's the best pitcher, he's got to go, you know,
Speaker 1: and then you leave them in one inning too long
Speaker 1: and the percentages catch up with you, right. And I
Speaker 1: would stay up to two o'clock in the morning playing
Speaker 1: these games trying to make up and I'm going never
Speaker 1: again too. I'm too competitive. I can't remember. When I
Speaker 1: was coaching that junior high softball team fast pitched girls,
Speaker 1: I'd be at work scribbling out, oh, I do that
Speaker 1: my lineup right, the exact same thing. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: like and this was real. I can't imagine what I did,
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. You know, you'd set that girl's
Speaker 1: softball lineup where you got to clean up hit her
Speaker 1: in the fourth hole, and then you got another one
Speaker 1: in the eighth and you got the bad hitter. You know,
Speaker 1: you got it. There's a real strategy make a difference.
Speaker 1: It did. It did, Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: But it was funny. It was hilarious as we were
Speaker 1: my wife and I were sitting there and there then
Speaker 1: watching games at the noon games on Sunday. She wasn't
Speaker 1: really watching, she was doing what but I would shout
Speaker 1: every time, like to Jackson scored a touchdown. I was going,
Speaker 1: this is a basy. They don't play for the cow
Speaker 1: And I didn't even have my I didn't even have
Speaker 1: my guy, Rex Burkhead on the team. And he went
Speaker 1: to see that. I just saw something that came that
Speaker 1: was an amazing bill on the TV and they were
Speaker 1: doing a fantasy thing and it was drafting available fantasy
Speaker 1: players going forward, and Burkhead was the number one guy
Speaker 1: thirty one years old, ninth year in the league, and
Speaker 1: he's he's playing for the Texas, and he's playing for
Speaker 1: the Texas. But he balled out. It's hard to play,
Speaker 1: it's all out in a situation. He was at day
Speaker 1: one and he was kicked. But well, hell, he had
Speaker 1: a hundred something yards. They've had one hundred forty nine yards,
Speaker 1: but he was I didn't I was gonna play him.
Speaker 1: I look at fifty yards. I'm the president of the
Speaker 1: Rex Burkhead Fan Club, and I didn't put him in
Speaker 1: my fantasy football lineup when I had to have somebody.
Speaker 1: But he had one hundred fifty yards. He's had some
Speaker 1: hundred yard games. Fifty No, no, that's the first time
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty year come on at thirty. But
Speaker 1: the reason at thirty one years old. Okay, twenty round
Speaker 1: draft back, that was amazing. We took Joseph Randall. Go ahead, Mickey.
Speaker 1: So since we've been taught wait wait, wait, he wants
Speaker 1: he wants Burkehead to be here now, right forget Zeke?
Speaker 1: We got Zeke? Bad, No, we get no, no, no,
Speaker 1: just as the third back in his role, just like
Speaker 1: he was with the Patriots. Tom Brady would take him
Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, especially with what's going on there. Let's say,
Speaker 1: can't get your buddies to release the guy, and then
Speaker 1: that's what I'm I wanted. Let's release burkehead down there.
Speaker 1: Nick Caisserio, the GM. Of course, he was with the
Speaker 1: Patriots forever and so that's why he wound up there
Speaker 1: and he was coming off in a cl to Houston
Speaker 1: has a big connection with that. Yeah, Boston, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So since we've been talking about interceptions and takeaways, I
Speaker 1: noticed here on the latest NFL stats, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: tied for second with a plus fourteen differential takeaway turn
Speaker 1: over the turn a pretty good differential. First is Green
Speaker 1: Bay at plus sixteen. And how are they doing in
Speaker 1: the standings? Green Bay? I think they've already clay number one,
Speaker 1: except the number one. So the number one seed in
Speaker 1: the in the NFC is plus sixteen and the number
Speaker 1: two seed is plus fourteen along with Indianapolis, which is
Speaker 1: there's something to play for except to have their quarterbacks
Speaker 1: out ten days the second game too. The last ask
Speaker 1: who the backup is? Sam Ellinger's that's right. I think
Speaker 1: he's he's number two and they've got an important game
Speaker 1: every game. I think Sam could play pretty well, I
Speaker 1: really do, and he reminds me of here. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes in a good way. So check out. Here's the
Speaker 1: here's the top teams in the turnaroad turnover differential, Green Bay, Indianapolis, Dallas, Buffalo, Arizona, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, New England. That's the top eight before a
Speaker 1: team shows up that Denver. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: got a chance. I don't think they have a chance anymore.
Speaker 1: In the playoffs, obviously, Houston, Kansas City. The Rams are
Speaker 1: tied for ninth along with Seattle, and then comes New
Speaker 1: Orleans at fourteenth. So the only team the Chargers still
Speaker 1: have a chance. I think, yes, charge everybody Philadelphy. Three
Speaker 1: teams still have a chance. Philadelphia are tied for fifteenth,
Speaker 1: in Miami's eighteenth, in Pittsburgh's eighteenth, Cincinnati's twentieth. After that,
Speaker 1: it's all the also rans except for Vegas because I
Speaker 1: still think they have Oh how about Baltimore, They're twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: they're minus ten. Too many too many gambles, right, too
Speaker 1: many gambles. So anyway, but the Cowboys are our first
Speaker 1: with thirty three takeaways, and they are first with twenty
Speaker 1: five interceptions. Okay, the Colts, by the way, they play
Speaker 1: the Raiders on Sunday and then they close at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: So what a great story it would be. And Sam
Speaker 1: Ellinger is the guy that's likely to start for the
Speaker 1: Colts against the Raid. What a great story it would
Speaker 1: be if Sam Ellinger is able to come in there
Speaker 1: and basically secure a playoff spot for the Colts with
Speaker 1: what all he had gone through this year. His brother
Speaker 1: died tragically on the spring right after he was drafted
Speaker 1: by the Colts. Yeah, it was a tragic situation. And
Speaker 1: UT right, Yeah, he was reserve linebacker on the UT
Speaker 1: football team. Yeah, yeah, And so Sam had to deal
Speaker 1: with that, just as he had making the transition into
Speaker 1: the NFL. And well, he's a strong high care you know.
Speaker 1: Of course, he had lost his father when he was
Speaker 1: either in high school I guess he's in high school
Speaker 1: or early on it when he was at UT. But
Speaker 1: it would be that would be a great story if
Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger can lead them into problem. I truly think
Speaker 1: he can. Um, he's solid quarterback. Had those problems at UT,
Speaker 1: you know, I guess because he was going through so much.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that what he was going through.
Speaker 1: But I just thought he didn't play up to his potential,
Speaker 1: especially his last year there and the way he plays
Speaker 1: his size, the way he runs the ball. He's a
Speaker 1: lot like Carson Wins, and if he could just stay
Speaker 1: away from those Wins mistakes, I think he'll do pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think he fits fits well into that about leaning
Speaker 1: on that running back, Jonathan Take that's what you do. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just just handed off a goat. But but he's got
Speaker 1: to be able to show enough throwing the football that
Speaker 1: that defenses aren't. I truly believe that he can. I
Speaker 1: really do all right, Mickey got mixed. Shot the closest
Speaker 1: out with our final minute here. I was trying to
Speaker 1: see if Ellinger had any He hasn't had playing time
Speaker 1: to have it in here. Um Tyron Smith, Tyron Smith.
Speaker 1: Garry Jones backed up Steven's assessment on Monday this morning,
Speaker 1: saying he's betting that Tyron Smith is good to go,
Speaker 1: so they're counting on him. We'll find out more tomorrow
Speaker 1: when they go to practice. But Jerry basically said that, uh,
Speaker 1: And he was asked if he ever got to catch
Speaker 1: a pass as an offensive lineman, and he said, I
Speaker 1: got mine. Before I became a guard, I was a fullback.
Speaker 1: Was he really yeah? And he said practice was a
Speaker 1: lot easier as a fullback than being a guard and
Speaker 1: getting hit every play, every snap. So now, back then,
Speaker 1: the fullback carried the football. Oh yeah, well I remember
Speaker 1: there was a primary back. Was the fullback because a
Speaker 1: lot of time because technically Jim Brown was a fullback, right, wow,
Speaker 1: I never knew that. Oh yeah, and Um Green Bay
Speaker 1: Um Horning was the tailback. They called it a half
Speaker 1: was Oh why am i? Jim Taylor Taylor of Las
Speaker 1: was the fullback and he was their leading rusher all
Speaker 1: the time. Now, Harning was a leading scorer because he'd
Speaker 1: kicked field goals too, while Garrison ran for a lot
Speaker 1: of yards. He says a fullback. Right. One year he
Speaker 1: led the Big eight in rushing at Oklahoma State. Believe
Speaker 1: it or not. I said, are you serious? He was like,
Speaker 1: whoa what do you mean? And I said, you were
Speaker 1: a fullback, hey man. He could run and run and
Speaker 1: he'd run through a wall to Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: Bay talked about Rayphael right catching his touchdown. They actually
Speaker 1: showed the video and there right there newspaper clipping and
Speaker 1: a confirmation a tight end. He was number eighty five,
Speaker 1: eighty five video, Yes, and it wasn't necessarily on the sideline.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like over the million who showed it?
Speaker 1: Uh NFL network. Okay they did, did they make the
Speaker 1: claim that he was wearing the number eighty five and
Speaker 1: entire show, and we tipped them off clarified that it
Speaker 1: was a tight end. They knew it was a tight end,
Speaker 1: but just for the sake of the story itself, they
Speaker 1: called him and off there you go. They fake news again.
Speaker 1: But the real story here, they actually did say that
Speaker 1: he was they want they wanted to continue the narrative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well so we we have corrected and clarified the narrative
Speaker 1: and Calie Rayfield, right, was a tight end on that time.
Speaker 1: I passed the picture onto the Cowboys PR department that
Speaker 1: showed that he had the ball in his hands eighty five.
Speaker 1: He looked good, right, he looked really good. He was laid.
Speaker 1: He was a hell of a yeah, he was excited.
Speaker 1: Think about that. And he ended up at was at
Speaker 1: Valdosta State. He's no Fort Valley Valley, George. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: now man, and that's where shine, and that's where he
Speaker 1: ended up in college, right, because probably didn't have a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity Fort Valley. Now he's what do you
Speaker 1: think his playing weight was, even as a offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: I bet he was in the two six. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if he was two fifty. Well, he was playing.
Speaker 1: It really didn't look good. And the only reason he
Speaker 1: got that scholarship is he was already as he told
Speaker 1: the story, Uh, he signed up for the military and
Speaker 1: he had to pull strings for someone to allow him
Speaker 1: out of his military commitment to go to college. And
Speaker 1: whoever did that basically told him, when you go there,
Speaker 1: you got to finish, otherwise you're back in the military.
Speaker 1: And uh, he ended up finishing, and they convinced him
Speaker 1: to play football. About that, I'm gonna stay here, not
Speaker 1: going out there, said, I had a lot of incentive
Speaker 1: to stay in college. US. He's one of a few
Speaker 1: black men. I'm gonna stand in Georgia. All right. Well,
Speaker 1: that was a good mix shot to end on yea
Speaker 1: absolutely was my birthday. Yes, started with a birthday and
Speaker 1: ended up on yield. Right. He covered a lot of ground,
Speaker 1: all right, and enjoy the rest of your birthday. Every
Speaker 1: play tonight. Yes, wife's taking me out, and where are
Speaker 1: we going to meet you? You see I didn't say,
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