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Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: What's Up Everybody?

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Speaker 3: This is Sugar Steve from Questlove Supreme. We are back

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Speaker 3: with part two of our conversation with the incredible Erica Alexander.

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Speaker 3: If you have not heard part one, please check that

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Speaker 3: out before this. In that episode, Erica spoke about her

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Speaker 3: upbringing living in Arizona and New Mexico before moving to Philly.

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Speaker 3: She really opened up about her experiences playing cousin Pam

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Speaker 3: on The Cosby Show and Maxine on Living Single, two

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Speaker 3: very memorable roles.

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Speaker 2: One thing I want to add too is that you

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Speaker 2: won't hear me or.

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Speaker 3: One thing I want to add too is that you

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Speaker 3: won't hear me or unpaid bill in this part too,

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Speaker 3: because one thing I want to add too is that

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Speaker 3: you won't hear me or unpaid bill in this part too, because.

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Speaker 4: Theyre so here's the thing, when, of course it's revealed

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Speaker 4: that you know Living Singles main sort of influence, of

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Speaker 4: course being right, and you've talked about this time and

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Speaker 4: time again about friends, but I do want to know

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Speaker 4: because here's the deal. I had to go to the

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Speaker 4: Warner Brothers a lot, maybe like a month ago. I

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Speaker 4: did a cameo on Avid Elementary, which I think might

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Speaker 4: be on right now as we speak. And I remember

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Speaker 4: seeing an interview where you were like, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: we were on the same lot. You know, both shows

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Speaker 4: were Warner Brothers shows, and I go there now, and

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Speaker 4: of course you know, you'll you'll go past the wherever

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Speaker 4: what do you call it? Like the buildings that they

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Speaker 4: build sets, like oh, the house stages, right, you know,

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Speaker 4: I always wanted to know what sound stage you guys

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Speaker 4: were on, because they now mark off like this is

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Speaker 4: where Ozzie and Harriet and and Da Da Da and

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Speaker 4: friends and Da Da Da, And I wanted to know

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Speaker 4: where the living single one was, but we weren't there.

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Speaker 5: We were on the ghetto a lot, I'm not kidding, right.

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Speaker 6: So not even in that whole area, a whole different

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Speaker 6: area location address.

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Speaker 7: You're saying, yeah, what's something.

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Speaker 8: Called the ranch And they had all the big shows

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Speaker 8: or all the shows with white casts on the big

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Speaker 8: lot and we were on the ranch lot. We didn't

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Speaker 8: have air conditioning, wed No, we had to. We staged

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Speaker 8: a walk out because we didn't have craft service correct

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Speaker 8: or you know those types of things.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were hot in sale on that stage.

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Speaker 4: So okay, I add when I asked the Avid people

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Speaker 4: that like, okay, so where's this in proximity to work

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Speaker 4: for it? They're like, we're right next door to them,

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Speaker 4: And they were like, that's a big deal to be

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Speaker 4: right next door to where they shot Friends, and I

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Speaker 4: briefly mentioned the whole living single thing, but then I

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Speaker 4: got distracted and never got the answer. But obviously, to

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Speaker 4: shoot any where in proximity to where Friends was means

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Speaker 4: that you're going to get treated better, like you're things work,

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Speaker 4: and so you're saying that a lot of those things

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Speaker 4: you actually wanted the stage a walk out, that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: We did stay the watch on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, really, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I was very.

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Speaker 5: Political even then.

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Speaker 8: I wrote a letter and I said that you have

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Speaker 8: to understand I had to come off of the biggest

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Speaker 8: going to get those types of niceties to Cosby got,

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Speaker 8: but I understood what we were being treated like niggas

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Speaker 8: say that, yeah, so wait with the number one show

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Speaker 8: in America, Black and Latino Household and we didn't have

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Speaker 8: any air condition at the time, we need to that's

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Speaker 8: crazy advocate for it now. They wouldn't do those types

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Speaker 8: of things, and it's nice to be in proximity to

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Speaker 8: power and things that are, you know, in the zeitgeist.

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Speaker 8: But we were over there building still for the black

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Speaker 6: Those sets, that's the same part of the stories that

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Speaker 6: I wish you would have been able to finish that story.

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Speaker 6: So they understood how much of a real big deal

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Speaker 6: fought for them to be there, because that's fucking ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, real quick, what other shows shot at the Ranch?

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Speaker 5: The Wayne's Brothers?

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Speaker 7: Oh wow.

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Speaker 8: For a long time it was mostly us, and then

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Speaker 8: season three or so, the Wayne's Brothers dropped in and

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Speaker 8: then the Waltons actually came to do like a limited series.

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Speaker 8: And I had done a series of something called Common

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Speaker 8: Ground with Richard Thomas and we had already won friends,

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Speaker 8: so we said, oh, there goes the neighborhood with all

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Speaker 8: We all joked about it, and they got it. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's who was on that lot before they fixed it up.

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Speaker 8: We were on the Ranch lot, and you know that

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Speaker 8: that fountain, but they didn't let us.

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Speaker 5: That's why we're behind the couch eight. That's some shit.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's the things I learned.

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Speaker 4: Oh, was there any truth to the rumor that initially

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Speaker 4: NBC was going to pick up the show initially before

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Speaker 4: it went to Fox?

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Speaker 8: Never because we are a Warner Brothers show and we

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Speaker 8: played on the Fox.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so Warren Littlefields.

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Speaker 8: The story goes that when we made our first debut,

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Speaker 8: they said, is there anything show there was any show

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Speaker 8: that you saw that you wish it was yours? And

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Speaker 8: he said single And he was the head of NBC

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Speaker 8: and then the next year he created with a different

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Speaker 8: team France.

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Speaker 4: I never heard of the cast members response to jay

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Speaker 4: Z's Moonlight video. Jay Z infamously uh Alan Alan Yang,

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Speaker 4: who who directed uh uh with with Disease and Sorry Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Masters of None, and also uh Maya's current series Lut.

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Speaker 4: Jay Z got Alan Yang to basically get the friend

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Speaker 4: set to actually recreate Do you remember this vine?

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Speaker 2: Remember it was it was? Was it was it? Four

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Speaker 2: four four? Was it? Yeah? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: The Moonlight song or four four four? What were your

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 4: Once that story broke out, and then jay Z also

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Speaker 4: gave a statement on it as well, what were your

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Speaker 4: Did you have a response to that video at all?

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Speaker 5: No, I was unaware of it.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, basically, when you're that story got out, jay

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Speaker 4: Z made a video in which Tessa Thompson, Uh, Tiffany

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, basically I think I did see that. Just

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Speaker 2: wanted to know if you word okay, I think that.

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Speaker 8: We're understand and I understand that in marketing that you

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Speaker 8: want to also speak to a wide audience. If you

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Speaker 8: friends is this juggernaut. I'm sure that jay Z who

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Speaker 8: understands that you stand next to things you want to

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Speaker 8: shine on you and vice versa. I don't think he

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Speaker 8: needs to stand next to living single, okay, and and

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Speaker 8: and not that he needs to stand next to friends,

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Speaker 8: But I get it.

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Speaker 5: I get it as a branding.

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Speaker 6: Was that his homage to living single in a way

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Speaker 6: like was it the supposed to feel like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 6: it was supposed to feel like this is we know

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Speaker 6: what the real truth is?

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Speaker 8: And I guess so, But it could also be seen

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Speaker 8: in the opposite.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it came right, you know, right, you're right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So but I get it, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, at one hundred and eighteen episodes, I mean, that's

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Speaker 4: nothing to sneeze at for in most shows. Basically, if

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Speaker 4: we're really being honest with ourselves, most shows are at

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Speaker 4: their best during a five season arc, and then it

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Speaker 4: gets a little shaky with season six, seven, eight.

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Speaker 2: You know they Fraser was consistent all I didn't watch.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I watched pretty consistent.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I agree with that five season or

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Speaker 9: like the favor like I mean Breaking Bad or like

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Speaker 9: the wh Like five seasons is kind of it's perfect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but we're greedy, and so it's like what's

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Speaker 2: ringing for? All? Right?

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Speaker 4: Like right now, fell down a suit hole and now

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Speaker 4: I'm a little upset that it ended that eight seasons,

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Speaker 4: even though two said it ended a season five or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But are you.

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Speaker 4: Satisfied with that particular arc, like those one hundred and

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Speaker 4: eighteen episodes or do you feel as though there was

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Speaker 4: more in it? Because I'm not I'm not too sure.

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Speaker 4: But by the time you guys ended.

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Speaker 6: Max is pregnant, right ended, and with her gonad, I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna get together and and then Kadija goes on to

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Speaker 6: another country to be with Scooters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that was just them wrapping it up.

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Speaker 8: We didn't even really have passed together, like was you know,

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Speaker 8: TC wasn't really there.

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Speaker 5: That was my comedy partner.

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Speaker 8: That's like I'm dancing with Redistare and Ginger and something

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Speaker 8: I ain't got nobody to dance with.

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Speaker 7: I love watching y'all dance.

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Speaker 5: Yes, there you go.

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Speaker 8: We had a Dallas and we had met Williams and

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Speaker 8: things like that. We're starting to be incorporated, and I

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Speaker 5: You have you need everybody to be engaged.

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Speaker 8: We're saying very intentional words of writers, and they are.

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Speaker 8: They're building these characters in these worlds, and if they're

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Speaker 5: Do We're like puppets. We can only do so much.

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Speaker 4: I've uh one one last living single, which is totally

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Speaker 4: just off of character. But I gotta know one of

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Speaker 4: your directors of the show, John's first thing, JD Lube.

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Speaker 4: This sounds like a weird poor name. Are you familiar

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Speaker 4: with JD Lube? L o U l O b U

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Speaker 4: e okay, see, I would imagine that on a sitcom

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Speaker 2: I wanted to know.

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Speaker 4: I know you're looking like, well, no, no, he JD

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Speaker 4: was sort of the longest director of Soul Train, which

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Speaker 4: to go do living single. But you know, I always

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Speaker 4: just wanted to know what what was he like as

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Speaker 2: But you don't remember, Sorry we ruined show.

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Speaker 5: Right to go on listen?

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Speaker 4: But but but my question is actually in that in

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Speaker 4: me it's weird that the director isn't consistent from soup

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Speaker 4: to nuts, Like in most comedies they have different directors

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Speaker 4: come in and direct one Do you know generally why

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Speaker 4: that's a rule, Like why isn't there just one director

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Speaker 4: and one writing staff? I know the staff writers can

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Speaker 4: change throughout the seasons or whatnot, but what does the

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Speaker 2: A series, Like why is that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I'm not quite sure, but I would imagine that it

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Speaker 8: keeps the show from getting stale.

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Speaker 5: They're also performers favorites.

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Speaker 8: Some people don't jail with the performers, and if they

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Speaker 7: It was a black Emmy show.

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Speaker 7: No, I remember, I remember.

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Speaker 6: That's why we got to keep telling history and telling

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Speaker 7: Not to move fast forward, boss.

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Speaker 6: But in my mind, I'm like, so when somebody said

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Speaker 8: I like to choose great material on the you find it,

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Speaker 4: I often wondered more with Us than get Out. I

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Speaker 5: With that one thing. I thought it was a comedy.

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Speaker 8: Outrageous story, and I bring in my team and we

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Speaker 8: Jordan always told me when I came on the scream

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Speaker 8: So he would joke and say, we need to make

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Speaker 5: So no, I do.

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Speaker 8: On the paper it looked exactly like it looked. Only

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Speaker 8: But I can assure you I had a call from

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Speaker 5: Says, Yoe, I just saw the trailer. Didn't you say

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Speaker 4: And wait, even then, you didn't realize where he was

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Speaker 6: No, because you didn't get to read the whole thing.

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Speaker 8: It was during the election. I was Hillary Clinton's most

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Speaker 8: So I had flown in from Baton Rouge straight to

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Speaker 8: it all like this without even looking. Sometimes you just

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Speaker 7: Wait wait, wait, wait wait.

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Speaker 6: So did you ever get going sneak into a theater

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Speaker 7: Did you get to feel that?

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Speaker 2: In parts.

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Speaker 4: That and then I saw I went to Magic Johnson

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Speaker 4: Now that I think about it, there's another iconic film

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Speaker 4: Can you just talk. I think that was maybe the

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Speaker 4: And so when this sort of came to fruition in

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Speaker 4: though I experienced everything, listening to records, watching videos whatever

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Speaker 4: But to me, that looked so much fun. I was like, wow,

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Speaker 2: What was it? Like?

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Speaker 8: I was pretty intimidated. Really, yeah, because I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Teacher Campbell once asked me about this. She said, Erica,

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Speaker 5: So I didn't come in hanging out.

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Speaker 5: You get captain the ads. Yeah, So you just didn't

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Speaker 8: And so that was the first time me meeting those people.

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Speaker 5: Ye.

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Speaker 4: When I think of it, I think of you first,

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Speaker 4: and maybe I think at tis Campbell like, but yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: when when you're there, we noticed.

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Speaker 7: Thanks always, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We noticed. I wanted to ask about Queen Sugar.

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Speaker 10: You talk about, you know, shows that didn't get Emmys

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Speaker 10: or recognition.

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Speaker 2: What was it like working on that show?

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Speaker 10: Because that was just such a beautifully shot show and

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Speaker 10: beautifully lit, like you know.

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Speaker 2: It was just a beautiful show to watch. Why do

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Speaker 2: they not announci you a while?

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Speaker 4: Ara Angela blame Ralph angel for me now having subtitles on.

452
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Speaker 5: Ava does everything with intention.

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Speaker 8: Avid Duvenet came in this world with a black power

454
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Speaker 8: sign stamped on her breast in the front. It's her

455
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Speaker 8: shield and it's her mantra. And I think that you

456
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Speaker 8: see that as an expression of love, and she wants

457
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Speaker 8: to rebrand black people. That's what I want to do.

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Speaker 8: She wanted to show a family that had land. We

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Speaker 8: came in and we worked the land, but we didn't

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Speaker 8: own that land. And once we owned the land, we

461
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Speaker 8: were sharecropping for that land, and then we were thrown

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Speaker 8: off the land. And now they say, we're not country

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Speaker 8: and we are country. So there's all these things mixed

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Speaker 8: in to Queen Sugar. She's talking about money ownership, she's

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Speaker 8: talking about families, she's talking about generational trauma, she's talking

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Speaker 8: about politics, she's talking about real estate. She's talking about

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Speaker 8: all these things. And she did it. So I bravoed

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Speaker 8: to her. And that's what it was like. You knew

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Speaker 8: when you walked on that you were contributing to something

470
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Speaker 8: that had very little to do with you, but more

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Speaker 8: to do with how could we tell this story about

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Speaker 8: a generational family that owned land.

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Speaker 10: Did you see your work in American fiction? You mentioned

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Speaker 10: kind of rebanded, rebranding black people. Did you see American

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Speaker 10: fiction as an extension of that?

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Speaker 5: For sure?

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Speaker 8: I mean, poor Jefferson is made for the moment. I

478
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Speaker 8: mean you have to understand American fiction is a satire. Okay,

479
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Speaker 8: let's mention the greater Jeffrey Wright. You just got one

480
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Speaker 8: of the best actors of all time to do it.

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Speaker 8: But that character wants to be free of a narrative

482
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Speaker 8: that's been keeping him in the cheap seats. He's a

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Speaker 8: spectator in his own life and his reality. Our reality

484
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Speaker 8: is much more complicated and plex then the narratives that

485
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Speaker 8: drive the market. And so we have a problem with

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Speaker 8: these stories that endure because black people have been amazingly

487
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Speaker 8: successful by catering to those forces, and they've successfully produced,

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Speaker 8: they've supported and these impoverished narratives. But this very durable

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Speaker 8: and very self sustained universe is rejected. So that's the question,

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Speaker 8: why do we see black people locked in these stereotypes?

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Speaker 8: And has blackness become a victim of its own success?

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Speaker 8: And that's what that that movie is about. When you're

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Speaker 8: playing a narrative that you don't own and yet you,

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Speaker 8: you know, push it out.

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Speaker 5: So you could be successful.

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Speaker 8: You it's I'm surprised we haven't all gone that shit crazy.

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Speaker 4: We have, But I also feel like, well, I'm under

498
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Speaker 4: the impression that the reset of twenty twenty is what

499
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Speaker 4: actually allowed us to recharge.

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Speaker 2: And come forth. But yeah, I too wonder that.

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Speaker 4: Can I ask you something though, because it's been a

502
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Speaker 4: minute since a movie sparked any type of conversation use

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Speaker 4: especially with me, like I'll see moving like okay, it's

504
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Speaker 4: dope or whatever, you know, the ending of American fiction,

505
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Speaker 4: or at least I would and we should probably have

506
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Speaker 4: Chord on the show. We should have chord on the show.

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing with the last fifteen minutes of

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Speaker 4: the show without spoiling the movie for people was talked about,

509
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Speaker 4: and the thing was I told the group of people

510
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Speaker 4: I went to see it with, I said, look, they

511
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Speaker 4: could have easily did a Hollywood ending where all's well,

512
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Speaker 4: that ends well. Now, for me, the ending of that

513
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Speaker 4: was much akin to like you remember, like maybe the

514
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Speaker 4: first seven Spike Lee films really never ended right, it

515
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Speaker 4: never yeah, but even think of do the right thing

516
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Speaker 4: like it wasn't happily ever after No Better Blues was

517
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Speaker 4: QUI fied.

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Speaker 2: He found love, but he lost his gifts right, And

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Speaker 2: for me, the ending of.

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Speaker 4: American fiction was not only I felt the right choice

521
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Speaker 4: of an ending, but I mean as a person, and

522
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Speaker 4: I know I'm not alone like I often find myself

523
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Speaker 4: in that ending where sometimes you're just like all right,

524
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Speaker 4: fuck it, you know what I mean. And even though

525
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Speaker 4: it wasn't the ideal Hollywood ending, I felt that was the.

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Speaker 2: Most realistic, the realistic ending.

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Speaker 4: And for those that were just like yo, man, what

528
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Speaker 4: do you think about the end? And I felt like

529
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Speaker 4: that's how that shit goes that was the truth and

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Speaker 4: it's the sad truth. Did you guys sort of wonder that,

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Speaker 4: like in the film of How It Ends? Because even

532
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Speaker 4: for me, I was wondering, like, okay, when the big

533
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Speaker 4: revelation happens, is, you know, is it redemption for all

534
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Speaker 4: of us?

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Speaker 2: Is in my mind?

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Speaker 4: I started predicting houses sick going end. I can't wait

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Speaker 4: for this at the end, And when it ended, I

538
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Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I guess that's how it ends. How

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Speaker 4: did you feel about that at the time? And was

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Speaker 4: that ever a subject of discussion where their alternate ending

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Speaker 4: shot for it?

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Speaker 8: Or I knew the one I was in. I was

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Speaker 8: in two of them, the happy ending and the more

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Speaker 8: tragic endings.

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Speaker 2: Wait, wait, time out you're talking about American fiction? Or yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, oh, because you also, I don't know if

547
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Speaker 4: you inadvertently know this. I didn't realize that Get Out

548
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Speaker 4: also had two endings as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the we did, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But I didn't ours just like I felt like it

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Speaker 6: was clue yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, get it Out and never showed you other endings.

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Speaker 8: But I think we have to just take it from

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Speaker 8: the point of view of an author. Okay, and the

555
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Speaker 8: author has posited this question that And this could be metaverse,

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Speaker 8: by the way, and you appreciate this, You guys are

557
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Speaker 8: all nerds. When Jeffrey starts to sip his cognact and

558
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Speaker 8: write the movie, he goes into a matter verse and

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Speaker 8: makes me wonder what movie are we watching? Is it

560
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Speaker 8: still his real life or is it something he's writing?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 7: Was that an Eastern third ending?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 6: He's saying that was the third ending that we didn't win,

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Speaker 6: the fourth ending that we didn't see.

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Speaker 8: I'm saying that there's a lot of things that switch

567
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Speaker 8: and start to be different once we see Keith David

568
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Speaker 8: and start before we started to get the idea that

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Speaker 8: he can manipulate his reality through his fiction.

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Speaker 5: So I think we need to ask the original source.

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Speaker 8: Material, Percival ever, because maybe in erasure exactly, maybe that's

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Speaker 8: where the true ending lies. But they shot the ending

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Speaker 8: you saw after we were all gone, so I was

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Speaker 8: surprised to see the ending. Oh okay, so Corty's to

575
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Speaker 8: come in here and stand and deliver he used this all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: One of my favorite things about that film was I

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Speaker 10: liked how it showed relationship, romantic relationships, black romantic relationships

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Speaker 10: with people of different ages.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, generational. Yeah, that was so beautiful like you and Jeffrey.

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Speaker 10: But then also I forgot the name, but the Old House.

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Speaker 6: Is a boss listen, I mean dead pull along. I'm

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Speaker 6: like the fact that she pulls American fixture the dead pool.

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Speaker 8: She's fucking yeah, she's a back and I got to

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Speaker 8: share a green room with her and get all those stories.

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Speaker 8: These people are walking around with such genius inside of

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Speaker 8: it's such the blueprints to our lives and to the future.

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Speaker 5: And she's one of them.

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Speaker 8: So that's the other ones is excellent, And you're right,

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Speaker 8: that was remember the housekeepers.

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Speaker 2: The housekeeper in the security Guard.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, it's trying to give truth to

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Speaker 5: the lie that black people.

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Speaker 8: Don't have generational stories, that we only exist inside of

596
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Speaker 8: the generation we're in and we're not having this back

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Speaker 8: and forth communication wisdom and also building and architecture in

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Speaker 8: our lives and it's so normal in that movie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I really I literally got like emotional watching you

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Speaker 6: and Jeffrey because it's just something that we just don't

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Speaker 6: see seeing you in that role and seeing you get

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Speaker 6: a chance to show love in that way, like you

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Speaker 6: like seeing you as the actors that we know play

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Speaker 6: that role was so important and kind of I think

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Speaker 6: I'm not the only person that got emotional overseeing you,

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Speaker 6: just in that.

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Speaker 8: You know, people have said that I get to meet cute,

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Speaker 8: I get to meet like and make Ryan. I dropped

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Speaker 8: my tomatoes and did he talk over Ryan? I imagine

610
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Speaker 8: that you're not jumping each other phones. I got lotion

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Speaker 8: afterwards after we do our little do.

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Speaker 5: It's a seduction.

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Speaker 6: And you think high enough of yourself to be like,

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Speaker 6: I don't have to be there here.

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Speaker 8: No you confused, don't bring that king, don't disturb my peace. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: she's not pining for him. She just let go of

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Speaker 8: aok A relationship, and I'm sure it was difficult for her.

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Speaker 8: So what she took to regain that kind of stability,

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Speaker 8: She wasn't willing to give it up his drama and

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Speaker 8: that's self empowerment.

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Speaker 5: And it was lovely. It wasn't mean or angry. It

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Speaker 5: was just sort of like, you gotta.

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Speaker 7: Go, Erica.

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Speaker 6: Please tell me what it's like going back and forth

625
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Speaker 6: and playing this game with Jeffrey Wright, Like, what is

626
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Speaker 6: it like in a scene like what he's just he's it,

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Speaker 6: He's it.

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Speaker 7: And then talk about sterling.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, Jeffrey is a nerd too. He only watches documentaries.

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Speaker 8: He doesn't watch TV, but he knows all for references,

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Speaker 8: so he would get along with all of you guys.

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Speaker 5: It's from DC. You know those DC light skinned brothers,

633
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Speaker 5: me too and all there you go.

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Speaker 7: But he's from Southeast though. He went to Anacostia High School.

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Speaker 8: Okay, so you know who you are. He loves his

636
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Speaker 8: mother and he loves his auntie who raised him. He's

637
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Speaker 8: a great lover of women, black women, and he understands.

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Speaker 8: So he's not intimidated by me. He doesn't think that

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Speaker 8: I'm a thread and in fact feel like, yeah, well,

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Speaker 8: he feels like he's taking care of business. He is

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Speaker 8: a man that's perspected on and he understands what he's

642
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 8: there to do. But here's what he's not there to do.

643
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Speaker 8: He's not there not to make mistakes. So he's trying

644
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Speaker 8: things and experimenting. He's frustrated that.

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Speaker 5: You can see. He wants a certain result and he's

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Speaker 5: going for it.

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Speaker 8: So I like somebody who was expectation is high, but

648
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Speaker 8: he's like, that's your expectation. I came on here to

649
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Speaker 8: be an actor and make my mistakes like everybody else

650
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Speaker 8: and put it together and you it reminds you that

651
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Speaker 8: you have to give yourself grace. Everybody can expect you

652
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Speaker 8: to be perfect, but that's not what you're here for.

653
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Speaker 8: And that's who Jeffrey is. And once he gets permission

654
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Speaker 8: to do those things, he gives everyone else permission.

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Speaker 5: And then the set runs.

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Speaker 4: When you are paired with an acting partner that you

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Speaker 4: know that your your characters sort of connected to. Are

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Speaker 4: there conversations beforehand of what the chemistry is going to be?

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Speaker 4: Because I've heard, and I'm asking this as a new

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Speaker 4: director and as a director that hasn't done scripted yet,

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Speaker 4: I've heard. I've talked to a lot of directors and

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Speaker 4: they've told me ideal stories of like, these actors are

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Speaker 4: the ones who gravitates towards I've heard nightmare stories of

664
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Speaker 4: established actors who you know, this actor will only give

665
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: you two takes and if you don't got it, tough titties,

666
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,720
Speaker 4: that's your fault. I don't give a fuck next scene.

667
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: That sort of thing. Is it a speed dating process?

668
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 2: Like how long?

669
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: Because the thing is is that one with Jeffrey, but

670
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 4: also your relationship with uh, what's his name? No, no, no, no,

671
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 4: I'm going back to to Bobby, to h who's playing him? Okay,

672
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 4: So I'm wondering how long is the speed quote air

673
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 4: quote speed day process between you and an actor to know,

674
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: like to at least get to know each other or

675
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 4: is this just like cold like you automatically know what

676
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: to do.

677
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 8: So I want to first say something about the bad

678
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 8: behavior that they might be speaking to. I have not

679
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 8: experienced that, and I've been in Shobiz forty years, so.

680
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: I've been a little bit. I don't know.

681
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 8: I give a little side eye to the stories because

682
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 8: I think that people attract certain things because they put either, oh,

683
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 8: that person must be in that role, knowing that the

684
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 8: person is problematic, instead of giving somebody who can do

685
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 8: the role just as well and not give those type

686
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 8: of problems. And so everybody has a reputation. No one

687
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 8: is operating in a vacuum. So if they're experiencing that,

688
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 8: I think it's hard for you not to know where

689
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 8: actor lands, and you have to consider do you really

690
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 8: want that, because that could be that can ruin you.

691
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 8: A bad attitude can ruin everything, the crew, everything.

692
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 5: So I haven't but I haven't experienced that.

693
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 8: I've experienced some issue with younger actors because they haven't

694
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 8: been properly trained. And I'm not talking about on stage

695
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 8: because I only did a very small amount of training.

696
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 8: I mean, no one tells them the truth and they

697
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 8: get away with bad behavior and there's no consequences. If

698
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 8: somebody did that on my set, I would replace them

699
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 8: almost immediately.

700
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

701
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 9: So when you check after check a young actor, what

702
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 9: do you say, like, how do you check them?

703
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 8: You take them aside, You don't embarrass them. You ask

704
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 8: them if there's something wrong, because sometimes they can come

705
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 8: to set and there's something wrong and you ask them

706
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 8: if they need help. You have identify somebody they can

707
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 8: talk to. It could be another actor who's willing to

708
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 8: mentor them and they can be open, honest with and vulnerable.

709
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 8: It could be a psychiatrist. They could just be scared

710
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 8: and not know how to say it. They may need

711
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 8: help with lines and they're freaking out. Get them a

712
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 8: dialogue coach, get them the help they need. They'll calm down.

713
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 8: They also need sleep, and some people these people sleep

714
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 8: working these kids, what's too they're more soft than not.

715
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: We work that is actual and factual.

716
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 8: Thank you, But I'm saying that all those things are

717
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 8: playing in part. So that's what I would say. I

718
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 8: first maybe see that, and then I might have a

719
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 8: conversation outside, whether their manager or agents, and not.

720
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 5: To scare them, but they need.

721
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 8: Warning that it is and they need to know that

722
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 8: you're on their side. If it continues, then you need

723
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 8: to start looking into it right away and reshift your

724
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 8: schedule to shoot things they're not in.

725
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 10: Did you have any like any ogs who was who

726
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 10: did that for you?

727
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 5: Like?

728
00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: Who gave you that need.

729
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 8: To I came into the set pristine. I'm a preacher's daughter.

730
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 8: I know how to act, I cook, and I'm from

731
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 8: girls high studied. I know and I'm learned. And if

732
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 8: I was scared, I might not have known you talked

733
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 8: to That's true. I think I experienced a lot of

734
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 8: trauma because I couldn't really tell what I was feeling.

735
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 5: But that came later on in life.

736
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 8: But I didn't have problems showing up, knowing my lines,

737
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 8: being prepared. We did twenty six show a year. Now

738
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 8: people do ten and they freak out. I'm learning to

739
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 8: play a week. No, I ain't got no problem.

740
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 4: All right, this is this hit me right now when

741
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: you started saying those words like it's something wrong and

742
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: can I help you? You know, sometime I just realized,

743
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 4: surely Ralph just sunned me. And I'm realizing it, right.

744
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: Baby, Oh yeah you.

745
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 6: Are.

746
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 7: I love that.

747
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: She pulled me to his side. She pulled me to

748
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 4: the side. Are you a little nervous right now? And

749
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 4: I was like, and just hit me. I got the

750
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 4: quasi defensive no no, no, I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm I'm good.

751
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: No no, no, listen, listen. You could just breathe and

752
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: say it is lower. No, no, no, and she like, now

753
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 4: do it.

754
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: And I was like, and I just realized, oh shit,

755
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 2: I was fucking up.

756
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: I was that perfect. I didn't realize it until you

757
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 4: said that.

758
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 5: But a mirror.

759
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 8: She did that with respect. What she was trying to

760
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 8: do is give you permission. And if you said to

761
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 8: her me, I'm a little nervous, then it goes away.

762
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 8: You know how if you say something, you could lean

763
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 8: into it because everyone's nervous.

764
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 4: But the thing was that in my mind, like when

765
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: you said that, then I'm like, okay, you're an experienced actress.

766
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 4: You could tell what a newbie doesn't know any better,

767
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 4: or they might be doing something wrong, or da da

768
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: da da da. And I'm now realizing that maybe the

769
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: first three takes that I did, because you know, they

770
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: do ship over there like nine times in a row.

771
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 4: So now I'm realizing my first four takes were like

772
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: he's not getting it. And they kind of had this

773
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: magic circle thing, you know, when people were together and

774
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 4: they just look at each other and you know you're

775
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 4: being talked about, but no one's saying it, Like I

776
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 4: felt like maybe there's something on my teeth or it was.

777
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: It was rather significant nice and so she was the

778
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: designated She's the leader of the group.

779
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 2: Chat damn.

780
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 7: That an elder sister who was like mighty queen because.

781
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 8: Thinking that a lot of the I don't know if

782
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 8: you did a read through and all that, but some

783
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 8: of these things, yeah, and that's that's the issue. You're

784
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 8: fitting into their world and you're trying to take it

785
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 8: all in all at once, and you're also trying to

786
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 8: do all this other stuff. By the way, any guests

787
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 8: feature performer has that extra burden. So I think that

788
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 8: she was just giving you PERMISSI, but she wasn't sonning you.

789
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 5: She was just sort of like a big sister going yeah.

790
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no cool.

791
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 4: I mean, let me let me make it clear. Yes,

792
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: she wasn't sonning me disrespect. Yeah, but you know, I

793
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 4: think maybe because I only entered situations that I know,

794
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 4: like the back of my hand, like if it were

795
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 4: music or that sort of thing. Is like, I'm not

796
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 4: saying you can't tell me nothing, but you know, this

797
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: is definitely an area that.

798
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 8: In your world you're king, it's hard to come in

799
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 8: spaces and you direct and you do all these things,

800
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 8: and then you're putting in a position where suddenly it's like, okay,

801
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 8: wait a minute, I'm not on you know what what again,

802
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 8: you're an artist, So she approached you as one, and

803
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 8: that's respectful, and she it wasn't a matter of whether

804
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 8: you could do it. It was a matter of sort

805
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 8: of saying, you know who told me that cely Tithe

806
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 8: it her cold breathe, breathe. When these sisters tell you

807
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 8: it sounds ridiculous, like I am breathing, but you know,

808
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 8: but she they're trying to remind you to be in

809
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 8: your body also to give you permission that you ain't

810
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 8: got to be perfect. And she I've been told that

811
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 8: by whoopee, I've been doing and these people are that.

812
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 8: I'm there for those Wu Tang kids to come up

813
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 8: and say, you're tired, you're not getting you sleep, okay,

814
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 8: so let's let's get you some water.

815
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

816
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 8: Stand up, stand up, shake your body, let's go outside

817
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 8: and get some sun. And I remind them that they're human,

818
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 8: They're not a freaking robot. But they're talented and that's

819
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,479
Speaker 8: why they're there, and they need to not think about

820
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 8: the talent, just think about being present. And it's all

821
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 8: right to have that. But I do want to say

822
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 8: something to what you said. You asked about you know,

823
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 8: how do you how do you.

824
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 2: Talk to your scene partner?

825
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 8: You don't usually it if when I say, you don't

826
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 8: usually if unless you need to. I'm at a point where,

827
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 8: for the most part, if somebody needs to talk to me,

828
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 8: they'll pick you aside.

829
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 5: So, Erica, I'm not sure about this scene. I don't

830
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 5: know where it's headed, but I think this and that.

831
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 5: What do you think?

832
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 8: And I said, I don't know. I don't know, Jeffrey,

833
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 8: but I'll follow your lead. He goes, okay, we'll work

834
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 8: it out and then it's just one of those things

835
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 8: where in a way he's just convincing that maybe hasn't

836
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 8: settled on how the scene goes or I and I

837
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 8: know to be ready for changes, and he's just putting

838
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 8: me on blasts, but also not on a blast. He's

839
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 8: giving me a heads up, but he's also telling me,

840
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 8: support me, look out for me.

841
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 5: And I'm glad when somebody says that because I've said that.

842
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 8: By the way, when I was on Queen Sugar, I

843
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 8: had medication because I have colitus, and sometimes it can

844
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 8: it's a steroid.

845
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 5: It can make you feel like.

846
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 8: Really like if you can get emotional, everything feel heightened,

847
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 8: like you can faint.

848
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 5: And so I told Omar, who plays.

849
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 8: I said, I've got to do this emotional scene and

850
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 8: if I get overwhelmed and faint, because that's how I said,

851
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 8: you got to tell them I'm all right.

852
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: But you know what happened. He says, I got you, girl,

853
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: I got you.

854
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 8: And once I did that, I actually calm calm down

855
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 8: and I was able to do the scene because I

856
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 8: was worried about fainting.

857
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 5: That's what it is.

858
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 8: The director can sometime give you that kind of confidence

859
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 8: because that's the person you want to impress, and you

860
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 8: sometimes don't want.

861
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 5: To be too friendly with the performers, but.

862
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 8: You do have to make a connection with him that

863
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 8: you're they're not there to hit a line, a bar,

864
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 8: a vis or that, and that you enjoy their mistakes.

865
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 5: So that was fun.

866
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 8: Give them encouragement, and don't give them encouragement just because

867
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 8: they get it and cried. Just say thank you each time,

868
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 8: say thank you for whatever they get me. It's no

869
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 8: different thank you for the crime. Then when if they

870
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 8: don't do it, and then they say, okay, they're not

871
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 8: making a big deal out of it.

872
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 5: I can be whatever and still get approval.

873
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 8: The actors will do anything for you because they know

874
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 8: they can't fail.

875
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 9: I want to ask about the Wu Tang show, which

876
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 9: I loved. How did you get that role? And did

877
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 9: you actually meet Rizz's mom before you know?

878
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: Oh man, I didn't know that long straight short.

879
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 8: I loved the Woutang, but at the time, I didn't

880
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 8: think it was a role for me. I didn't know

881
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 8: if I wanted to be a mother of all these

882
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Speaker 8: may ask kids.

883
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Speaker 2: Well, you look like you could be their sister on

884
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Speaker 2: the camera, So I mean.

885
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 8: Yeahreer, but I didn't know, so I didn't really step

886
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 8: up for the audition because there was an audition and

887
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 8: they said, Erica, they coming back to you, would you

888
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 8: And I said, all right, so I did and they said, well, Rizzon.

889
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 5: Wants to meet you.

890
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 8: And I said, oh, I don't know if I wanted

891
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 8: to go any further, and I don't want to lead

892
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 8: anybody on, but I decided, you know what, Erica, go on,

893
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 8: do what's in front of you.

894
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Speaker 5: So I met.

895
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Speaker 8: Him and Ris is very you know, charismatic and lovely

896
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 8: and respectful, and I did my thing, and he said

897
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 8: after I got the partner, I accepted it because I

898
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 8: did get it that you know, there's only four represented

899
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 8: in the show, but I got eleven brothers and sisters

900
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 8: including me, and they all had to say you were

901
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 8: okay to play our mother.

902
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 5: Because the whole.

903
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 8: Real America can play Linding Diggs. So then I learned

904
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 8: about their mother, and their mother had experienced abuse and

905
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 8: it's one of the reason why they think she died.

906
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 8: She was married twice and unfortunately she experienced domestic abuse,

907
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Speaker 8: which is portrayed into there. So I knew that it

908
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 8: was something very special that Rizzo wanted me to project.

909
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 8: So I said to her, and I'm not very religious,

910
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 8: but those spiritual said, miss miss Linda, your children want

911
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 8: to see you. You showed me the way. And then

912
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 8: I didn't do anything because I knew they had already

913
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Speaker 8: seen what they wanted and I just needed to not perform.

914
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 8: I need to just get out of the way and

915
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 8: let her be there. And to me, she's a ghost.

916
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Speaker 8: In that series, Rizza wanted to see his mother, so

917
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Speaker 8: he wrote her in I.

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Speaker 5: Fulfil the mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, were you Au Tang fan? Prior to the

920
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 2: did you Tang fan?

921
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Speaker 8: Not as much as everybody didn't know their music as much.

922
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 8: But I'm a Wu Tang fan because I really love

923
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 8: how intellectual they are are. I love methic man and

924
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 8: and I like men who are working it out and

925
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 8: they're individualists. Again, they're an individualists and then they decide

926
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Speaker 8: to come together to make a super group and then

927
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 8: their brand becomes bigger than them all.

928
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. I love that kind of story.

929
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Speaker 7: Did you see?

930
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Speaker 6: And I'm curious because there's a lot of great actors,

931
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 6: great young actors in that cast. Do you see a

932
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 6: couple of them as like leading in the in the future,

933
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Speaker 6: like the next like not the next.

934
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Speaker 7: They're doing their thing.

935
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Speaker 8: But Julian Elijah Martinez who played my son, he played

936
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Speaker 8: the elder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he played divine.

938
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Speaker 7: Sometimes he.

939
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Speaker 5: Does look like.

940
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Speaker 8: There of course Ashton Sanders there, You've got Marcus Callender,

941
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 8: their genius performers, and Elijah is on fire. There is

942
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 8: not enough film are television to absorb this talent, and

943
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 8: my goal is to find ways so they can show

944
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 8: the world what they can do. We've got more talent

945
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 8: than we've got content for them to be in. So yeah,

946
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Speaker 8: look out. All of them are wonderful. I love them all.

947
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Speaker 9: I have one last question, Eric, I need the face routine.

948
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 9: I need what's what's your face routine?

949
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Speaker 6: What's your so thank you for that.

950
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 5: I had a huge breakout because I came here and

951
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 5: started eating stuff I didn't know.

952
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 8: But you know what, I think I really appreciate that

953
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 8: when you saw me in person, you see the lines.

954
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 7: See no, no, no, that's not true. I just weeks ago.

955
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 7: Don't tell tales.

956
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 5: Well you know what black does crack.

957
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 8: But I think if you keep yourself smiling and laughing

958
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 8: about things, I think people see the brightness in my

959
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 8: face really and the openness and I like to believe

960
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 8: that I can still be young and enthusiastic and not

961
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 8: jaded and not tired. I'm enthusiastic after forty years to

962
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 8: be here, and I know what it feels like to

963
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 8: be tired.

964
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 5: But Harriet wasn't tired until she was tired. So I'm

965
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 5: all right.

966
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 7: My hair is strenders ship.

967
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 5: That's in your DNA. I'm good, by the way. I

968
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 5: don't believe in all this hustle. I get your sleep,

969
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 5: get your rest. It's important.

970
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 8: Listen, read and go outside and let the sun hit

971
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 8: you and listen to read. Take off all the things

972
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 8: and just the ambient noise get to you.

973
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 4: I don't think I ever heard an episode where I

974
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 4: don't want to say goodbye to the person.

975
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: No.

976
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,959
Speaker 4: Once again, thank you so much for coming on our show.

977
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 4: And this is definitely you know, this is a dream

978
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 4: for us. We talked about this for a long time

979
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 4: of having you.

980
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 7: And shout out your organization.

981
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 6: Please, because when you say you're trying to uplift these

982
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,439
Speaker 6: people and these creatives, you're doing it in real time.

983
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 7: Please please Color Farm.

984
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 8: We call ourselves the town of film, television and tech.

985
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 8: You're trying to change the face to the media and

986
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 8: rebrand blackness. We produced John Was Good Trouble. I co

987
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 8: directed the reparations documentary The Big Payback. You're doing a

988
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 8: Diet and Carol documentary. You're also doing collaborations partnerships in

989
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 8: the scripted space as well. Remember us a mirror and

990
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 8: for everyone there, we appreciate your support because.

991
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 5: We don't have a deal.

992
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 8: Just worked really hard and we got the DuPont Columbia

993
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 8: word for something we did called Finding Tamika, which was

994
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 8: the top true crime audio series that I created a

995
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 8: road and I really am very proud of that because

996
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 8: we're talking about missing white woman syndrome and to do

997
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 8: what we use this black girl's life to show Mika.

998
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 5: She was used as the discussion around it.

999
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 8: And we maybe made Neil Noir ghost story and we

1000
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 8: thought it was lovely and their family was lovely to

1001
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 8: let us do it.

1002
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 5: But I'm here, I want to say something to you. Yes,

1003
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 5: you are not only.

1004
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 8: An agot, You're a person who is in power to

1005
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 8: empower and I'm very gratified that you're from Philly. I

1006
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 8: see all the stuff that you do, and I say

1007
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 8: stuff that you do, the amazing.

1008
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 5: Things that you accomplish.

1009
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 8: But I also love that you have the curiosity intellectual

1010
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 8: and the deep dives that most people don't allow themselves

1011
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 8: to have. And so you're very generous with your mind

1012
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 8: and your brilliance. And I appreciate that, brother, because all

1013
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,719
Speaker 8: the people, all those people would recognize that you are

1014
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 8: their son. So thank you all for creating this for

1015
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 8: us to have these long conversations, because I think we're

1016
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 8: also archiving history.

1017
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 2: One. Thank you, Yeah you made it.

1018
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,359
Speaker 7: Thank you, thank you for making that.

1019
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: Thank you for yeah doing your ship.

1020
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.

1021
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, and you're back.

1022
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 4: That is probably the greatest ending of quest love Supreme.

1023
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 5: We could just get that plate of Patty.

1024
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, to let the world know Patty invited me

1025
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 4: and the guy who sang about her pies and talked about.

1026
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, the viral a viral.

1027
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah all right, she invited both of us to our

1028
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 4: house for Thanksgiving, and I ate my ass off.

1029
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 2: It was oh this happened like this happened in twenty

1030
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: fourteen years ago. Oh okay, gotcha. Yes, after a lot

1031
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: of begging.

1032
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 6: Erica wants to be invited. I will guest if you

1033
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 6: watched eightieth birthday. I'm saying, we just make it a family.

1034
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 5: Thank you, gol face.

1035
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Speaker 2: I appreciate, thank you, Thanks see all the next around, y'all.

1036
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Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Quest Love Free. This podcast

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00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: is hosted by.

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Speaker 9: Emir West, Love Thompson, Boss Man, Like Here, Saint Clair

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1040
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:18,200
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00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,279
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