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Speaker 1: as well. With no football and last night, I was
Speaker 1: kind of like a bear coming out of hibernation after
Speaker 1: three days of nothing but the NFL. In the National
Speaker 1: Title Game, I imagine we were all a little bleary eyed.
Speaker 1: And even if you're kind of surfing looking for college
Speaker 1: basketball or the NBA, you're not quite sure if the
Speaker 1: games are going to be played. They've canceled multiple games lately.
Speaker 1: But in the shadow of football, this hasn't made a
Speaker 1: dent in the news cycle because we've been so consumed
Speaker 1: by the NFL with the playoffs, the National Title game,
Speaker 1: and we're looking at these NBA games and we're like, okay,
Speaker 1: they got restarted here and you know, to shortened season,
Speaker 1: and all right, I'll catch up with it and maybe
Speaker 1: March or so. But there's a lot of things going
Speaker 1: on right now when you think about it in sports,
Speaker 1: and you have the Rockets with James Harden, you got
Speaker 1: the Nets with Kyrie Irving, the Texans with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1: These are situations that are fluid. They're happening right now,
Speaker 1: and we're trying to fix them or at least come
Speaker 1: up with an explanation as to why they're happening. I
Speaker 1: watched James Harden last night with the Lakers, and there's
Speaker 1: one thing that I will say about James Harden, and
Speaker 1: I've said this before many many times. I find him amazing.
Speaker 1: He's somebody that I love to watch, but I love
Speaker 1: to watch when he wants to play basketball. He doesn't
Speaker 1: look like he wants to play basketball. It looks like
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be in Houston, doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be in a Houston uniform, and it's basically given up.
Speaker 1: That's really troubling because he's not being professional, and he's
Speaker 1: the one that helped orchestrate all of this. He is
Speaker 1: the Houston Rockets. He's the one who wanted this guy,
Speaker 1: and you trade that guy, bring this guy in. And
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he looked around and he went,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I don't like what's going on here.
Speaker 1: I don't like who we have here. James. You created
Speaker 1: the situation. If it look no further than you and
Speaker 1: then start to take inventory with other people that you
Speaker 1: want to bring into the blame game here, but it
Speaker 1: starts with you. You don't want to be there. Okay,
Speaker 1: now what so the Rockets who did everything that you
Speaker 1: wanted them to do, now you want them to trade you.
Speaker 1: You're still scoring your fourteenth in the league in scoring,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't even get over twenty points, believe in
Speaker 1: the last four games, and last night he didn't want
Speaker 1: to be there. And after the game, this is what's
Speaker 1: really troubling. When he had this to say to the media,
Speaker 1: which is not good at us. The chemistry tell him
Speaker 1: was just everything and it was clear, like I said,
Speaker 1: these last few games, I love the city. I literally
Speaker 1: done everything that I can. I mean, this situation this
Speaker 1: is crazy to know it's something that I don't think
Speaker 1: you fixed. Sixteen, twenty, fifteen, and fifteen. Those are his
Speaker 1: points the last four games. James Harden can have that
Speaker 1: in a quarter. He didn't want to play. You've lost
Speaker 1: four or five. You got embarrassed by the Lakers last night.
Speaker 1: But instead of being a professional saying, hey, I helped
Speaker 1: create this, I'm going to stay in here for the
Speaker 1: long haul and try to make this better. What was it?
Speaker 1: Was there a moment where he looked around and went,
Speaker 1: do I really want to play with these guys? Do
Speaker 1: I want to play this style? Do I want to
Speaker 1: be known as this kind of play? And it has
Speaker 1: to be frustrating for Houston fans because it wasn't long ago.
Speaker 1: Where you go, the Rockets are exciting, We got DeShawn Watson. Hey,
Speaker 1: the Astros are winning the World Series. Now Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: wants out, Westbrook is out. You got John Wall, Poor
Speaker 1: John Wall. John Wall coming back from surgery on his
Speaker 1: achilles and he's looking around going, wait a minute, I've
Speaker 1: only been here nine games, Like what's wrong? Here's John
Speaker 1: Wall on James Harden wanning out of Houston and a day.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys years are going to compete, and
Speaker 1: I love them, and like I told everybody to night
Speaker 1: and I told the guy was doing. When the one
Speaker 1: through fifteen guys all on the same thing and they commit,
Speaker 1: they know their role, they know what they want to do,
Speaker 1: they know what they want to get out of this.
Speaker 1: That's to win you all to be fine. But when
Speaker 1: you have certain guys in the mix that don't want
Speaker 1: to buy in all this one, he's gonna be hard
Speaker 1: to do anything, specially to do anything good as a
Speaker 1: basketball team. I've been on those teams and my lamby
Speaker 1: has been the league. I've been on team like that
Speaker 1: my first five years where it was all about me, me, me, me,
Speaker 1: not about the team and ars and it brings everybody down.
Speaker 1: So we can get all on the same page. There
Speaker 1: can be something good here and we can't do it
Speaker 1: down on it because there's only been nine games. Like,
Speaker 1: come on, man, you want to jump out the cliff
Speaker 1: all the nine games. Here's a lot of basketball stud
Speaker 1: We played John Walls, the professional in the room. This
Speaker 1: is what James Harden should be saying. Hey, it's nine games.
Speaker 1: We got a good group of guys here, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna make this better. Instead of throwing his arms up saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I want out of here. It's like somebody who builds
Speaker 1: a house and it's not a good house, and then
Speaker 1: they're the ones that built the house, and then they say,
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in this house. You build it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to live here. He wants to go
Speaker 1: to somebody else's house. And you know, we I guess
Speaker 1: we expect the Nets are gonna go. I trade Kyrie
Speaker 1: for James Harden. How about that if you can find Kyrie,
Speaker 1: because right now we have no idea. We have no
Speaker 1: idea what's going on with Craig Kyrie Irving. But the
Speaker 1: Nets got to do all the right things, say all
Speaker 1: the right things, and I got to give him time. Hey,
Speaker 1: he'll be back when he needs to come back. Okay.
Speaker 1: My point through all of this was at least let
Speaker 1: Steve Nash know what's going on so he doesn't look foolish. Steve,
Speaker 1: where's your starting point? Guard? I'm not sure haven't been
Speaker 1: in touch with him, only he's been in touch with
Speaker 1: some of his teammates. Yeah, I know. Like, this is
Speaker 1: where you go. It's eleven o'clock. Do you know where
Speaker 1: your kids are? Like? Hey, it's game time. Do you
Speaker 1: know where you're starting point guard is? I would just say,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if any of the media is
Speaker 1: just say, do you know where Kyrie is? How concerned
Speaker 1: are you that Kyrie is not here? Why is he
Speaker 1: not playing in this game? Here's Steve Nash. Are you
Speaker 1: sure Kyrie will be back this year? Or are you
Speaker 1: at least confident he will be sure? You know, I,
Speaker 1: like I said, like right now, I got to focus
Speaker 1: on coaching this team and getting the best out of him,
Speaker 1: So I can't make any predictions prognostications about things that
Speaker 1: are outside of this building. This evening. You know, we
Speaker 1: got our hands fall of the nugs and my hands
Speaker 1: are full there and then that's really where I gotta focus,
Speaker 1: all right. I feel bad for Steve now. When this started,
Speaker 1: they got Kyrie and Katie, and I said, it's either
Speaker 1: going to be spectacularly great or spectacularly a disaster. And
Speaker 1: it's been both because we do see glimpses of boy
Speaker 1: these guys can be unbelievable too, okay, And Kyrie is
Speaker 1: the key, you know, in Cleveland it became an issue.
Speaker 1: In Boston, it became an issue, and he just got
Speaker 1: there with the nets a little over a year and
Speaker 1: here we are, and maybe there's something more to this.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's something that's serious going on right now
Speaker 1: and it deserves a sensitive touch here. I get all
Speaker 1: those things, but at least let your coach know that
Speaker 1: you're not going to be playing. That's the point, you know.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's not happy. And I understand why he's not
Speaker 1: happy because he looks around and he goes, Okay, we
Speaker 1: traded away DeAndre Hopkins. Who did we get Well, he
Speaker 1: didn't get anything there. We used to have a formidable defense.
Speaker 1: We don't have a formidable defense. I turned in the
Speaker 1: greatest season the quarterbacks ever turned in for a team
Speaker 1: that won four games statistically. Look at his numbers. He
Speaker 1: was doing everything he can and looks around and goes,
Speaker 1: all right, I got a coach. Now, I don't want
Speaker 1: him to be the coach. Who's the general manager? Who
Speaker 1: are we bringing as our general manager? I like to
Speaker 1: have this guy interviewed. You gave me the power to
Speaker 1: at least be involved in these decisions, which I didn't
Speaker 1: agree with. But you gave him the power to be
Speaker 1: involved in these decisions. And here you are. He wants
Speaker 1: Eric B. Enemy interviewed, and I think that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Everybody is being interviewed by the way over Zoom. Everybody like,
Speaker 1: if you're not interviewed this year with Zoom, you're not
Speaker 1: getting interviewed. I mean Jason Garrett getting interviewed. But possibility
Speaker 1: to the head coaching job of the Chargers, Like everybody
Speaker 1: come on down, get on a Zoom call, and then
Speaker 1: they don't have time or they're not interested in Eric B. Enemy. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Eric B. Enemy is the next Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: but it does feel like there's a pretty good track
Speaker 1: record there. You do have his quarterback who is speaking
Speaker 1: on his behalf, who would then lose him as his
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, but thinks that highly of him, even letting
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson know you should bring in Eric B. Enemy
Speaker 1: as your head coach. So there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: going on with big question marks attached to them. Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: James Harden, and of course Kyrie Irving. I was looking
Speaker 1: at these numbers with James Harden, and the reason why
Speaker 1: I'm piling on is because I've been over the top
Speaker 1: supportive of James Harden. As a basketball player. I find
Speaker 1: him truly amazing. First three games average thirty seven shot
Speaker 1: fifty two from the floor, forty five from three point range,
Speaker 1: had five three pointers per game. Made last five games
Speaker 1: seventeen points per game, shooting thirty seven percent, shooting twenty
Speaker 1: five percent from three point range, and he's making two
Speaker 1: three pointers per game. James Harden has licked the stamp,
Speaker 1: put it on the envelope, and mailed it in. And
Speaker 1: I have a problem with that. Not everybody's going to
Speaker 1: play with the best team, but you've got to make
Speaker 1: the best of a situation that you helped create. And
Speaker 1: if you want to play better, Like, if I'm a
Speaker 1: team right now, do I go? Man? Now's when I
Speaker 1: really want James Harden. Looks like he's out of shape
Speaker 1: and looks like he doesn't care. Man, Who do we
Speaker 1: want to give up to get James Harden? At least
Speaker 1: a Shawn Watson is coming off an unbelievable year for
Speaker 1: a bad team that went through an awful lot, and
Speaker 1: he still played magnificently. Yeah, boy, when you said that
Speaker 1: about James Harden, I thought to myself, this sounds like
Speaker 1: a job for the New York Knickerbocker. Yeah. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: got some young talent. Let's package him up. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he's not gonna want to go there, of course. That
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing is that he wants to
Speaker 1: go for a winner. Hey, I gotta go. I gotta
Speaker 1: be part of a winner. Okay, you gotta be part
Speaker 1: of a winner. But weren't you part of a winner
Speaker 1: in Houston? You just got to a certain glass ceiling
Speaker 1: and you couldn't get through it. I understand those things,
Speaker 1: But you didn't want Chris Paul anymore. You wanted Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 1: You traded away all of your draft picks, and then
Speaker 1: you suddenly were moving on from Russell Westbrook. You know,
Speaker 1: that's one of those where you have to go, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm the problem. Like after a while, you go,
Speaker 1: who's the problem here? What's the problem here? James has
Speaker 1: to look at this and go, maybe I'm part of
Speaker 1: the problem. Does anybody want to play with me? And
Speaker 1: how many times does a superstar go, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: the problem. It's really really really really rare and if
Speaker 1: they do it, they probably don't say it publicly. But
Speaker 1: James Harden has to look at this and say, I
Speaker 1: can be the solution to my problem me. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to this program brought you by
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Speaker 1: I mean, I want to put up who would you
Speaker 1: rather have on your team? Kyrie or James Harden? Just
Speaker 1: solve all our problems with one fouls who? All right?
Speaker 1: That's fine? Do you? I mean do you think it
Speaker 1: could honestly happen where the nets could get harder at
Speaker 1: some point? I mean, if this gets pushed close to
Speaker 1: the trade deadline and he really wants to go to
Speaker 1: a contender, I think I think the host in me,
Speaker 1: the person looking for content, would love if he went
Speaker 1: to the nets, because once again, it could be either
Speaker 1: great or disaster. But if I'm Kevin Durant, I don't
Speaker 1: want that. You have a talented team there? You do
Speaker 1: you have a talented team? Do you think you have
Speaker 1: enough to win a title? Though? Sure, if Kyrie is there.
Speaker 1: Kyrie plays it like when's the last time Kyrie played
Speaker 1: a full season? Like, I can't count on that. And
Speaker 1: here's Katie who did everything possible to get ready for
Speaker 1: this season, coming back from achilles surgery, which is not
Speaker 1: easy to do, and he looks great, look great last night.
Speaker 1: But I think that I guess the Rockets have to
Speaker 1: make a move. But you know what, it's a shame
Speaker 1: because they're gonna make a move and they're gonna trade
Speaker 1: somebody and they're not gonna get They're gonna get not
Speaker 1: pennies on the dollar, but you're not going to get
Speaker 1: your true value for James Harden. I mean, are you
Speaker 1: getting three or four good players here? You're getting anybody
Speaker 1: potentially great? Here is this addition by subtraction. I think
Speaker 1: that's that's what happens players. You know, NBA players have
Speaker 1: the power. You don't always find this in other leagues,
Speaker 1: but you do in the NBA. You've got power. Yeah,
Speaker 1: McLevin our two, Paul and I don't know if it's related.
Speaker 1: Is there any trade package that the Texans should listen to?
Speaker 1: If you're you run the Texans? Are you taking calls
Speaker 1: right now? Yes? Yeah? I mean I think you have
Speaker 1: to do your due diligence here, because what if Miami
Speaker 1: blows you away? What if they say we'll give you two,
Speaker 1: we'll give you the third pick? Overall? Okay, you got
Speaker 1: my attention. I mean, Deshaun Watson's a wonderful player, but
Speaker 1: you're not winning anything with Deshaun Watson, not anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Factor in his contract. I mean, that team's a mess.
Speaker 1: It's like the Eagles. I would not want that job.
Speaker 1: I would want to be the head coach in the NFL,
Speaker 1: but the Eagles situation is a mess. Like if I
Speaker 1: was the PA announcer at the grocery store, I'd be saying,
Speaker 1: we got a spill in Aisle six, we got a
Speaker 1: spill in Aisle three. I mean, that's really what's happening today.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of spills, and I think you're
Speaker 1: seeing that with Houston with the tech since with the
Speaker 1: rockets and the nets potentially could be a disaster as well.
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Speaker 1: TP show. Steven Ohio leads us off, I Steve, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind? How's it going? A big fan? Sixty? Literally,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what h I was raised by a
Speaker 1: terrific father who said, when somebody pays you to do
Speaker 1: a hard day's work, that's what you do. And that's
Speaker 1: what I do every day. And see my family. These guys.
Speaker 1: I'm a pro player guy, I am, but these guys
Speaker 1: are getting out of control. And you know, I'm a
Speaker 1: Cavs fan, but I love the late Kobe Bryant. I
Speaker 1: remember No. Eight when he wanted a trade from La
Speaker 1: not real public, didn't whine and complain when the season
Speaker 1: started they had found a deal, he had vetoed it.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of media attention, at least from that side,
Speaker 1: and then he played his ass off because that's what
Speaker 1: professionals do, and you know it ended up working out
Speaker 1: for them. He didn't whine and complain, he didn't cry
Speaker 1: about it in the newspaper. He just out every night played.
Speaker 1: And I think that these guys need to take a
Speaker 1: page out of his book. You know, he would lose
Speaker 1: a big series. He was the first guy to the
Speaker 1: podium to answer questions. That's what professionals do. And when
Speaker 1: I look at a guy like James Harden, just not professional.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want that guy in my organization or on
Speaker 1: my team. Yeah, and you know I put them in
Speaker 1: a real difficult position. Thanks for the phone call, because
Speaker 1: you did what he wanted you to do. And we
Speaker 1: all looked at this and said, can you win with
Speaker 1: the roster where your starting lineup is six, seven and under?
Speaker 1: You got Mike D'Antoni very entertaining regular season teams that
Speaker 1: he's coached, but not great postseason teams. And James Harden
Speaker 1: wanted this, got this, and now he wants to leave.
Speaker 1: And it sounded like that was an exit interview last
Speaker 1: night or an exit comment. Hey I love this city,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I've done everything that I can. The situation's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's something I don't think can be fixed. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: have you noticed in the past two months that this
Speaker 1: is going on. Guys like Adrian Wishnowski have not reported
Speaker 1: any trade offers, trade movement. It's a very quiet story
Speaker 1: except for the coverage of it. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of active people trade trying to trade
Speaker 1: for him. Well, all stories always get out, and he's
Speaker 1: trying to expand the list, or his agent is because
Speaker 1: if you say, hey, these are the teams I want
Speaker 1: to go to, well you might not get that it
Speaker 1: might be somebody who was one of the teams that
Speaker 1: are on the precipice of being a playoff team. There's
Speaker 1: no guarantee here. Hey, I want to go to the nets. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how do we make that happen? James? We just
Speaker 1: take whoever they give us, and then we send you
Speaker 1: on your married way, because we've given you everything before.
Speaker 1: And that's the disappointing part of this. Through all of this,
Speaker 1: I always saw James Harden putting up numbers, playing hard
Speaker 1: and being a force. And the last four games and
Speaker 1: last night and then these comments. That's really disappointing to hear,
Speaker 1: really disappointing. All Right, we got our poll question here.
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian has taken over at Texas. The college football
Speaker 1: transfer season is officially under way. Kyrie m i a
Speaker 1: NBA tightening up hotel protocols. No hugging, no hugging. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks have fired their offensive coordinator. There's a whole lot
Speaker 1: going on, a whole lot going on. Man, we haven't
Speaker 1: even gotten to the games coming up this weekend, but
Speaker 1: we will. The popular Ross Tucker will join us coming up.
Speaker 1: What would he do with Deshaun Watson in Houston, and
Speaker 1: is there an offer out there where you go. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that benefits both teams. We'll talk to Rossill
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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker Football podcast Westwood one NFL analyst. He'll be
Speaker 1: in Buffalo on Saturday night AFC Divisional playoff game between
Speaker 1: the Ravens and Bills. That's on Westwood one, and he
Speaker 1: was also on the broadcast for the coltson Bills wildcard
Speaker 1: game this past weekend. Ross, thanks for joining us. What's
Speaker 1: the weather forecast in Buffalo. Yeah, it's gonna be cold, Dan,
Speaker 1: as you might imagine, and they're saying there's a chance
Speaker 1: of snow now only accumulating an inch or so. But
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson already talking about it. He was asked about
Speaker 1: it yesterday. He said he's never played in snow before.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to play in snow. Remember he's a
Speaker 1: South Florida kid. So I think I already tweeted this
Speaker 1: morning Dan at Ross Tucker NFL the first rule of
Speaker 1: snow football club is never admit that you don't want
Speaker 1: to be a part of snow football. I mean, like
Speaker 1: it's like Lamar, I think it's a little bit too honest,
Speaker 1: Like we know you don't want to play in the snow, man,
Speaker 1: but it might be snowing Saturday night, so just embrace
Speaker 1: it and have fun. Can you imagine, by the way, Dan,
Speaker 1: if it does a night game in Buffalo, Ravens Bill snowing.
Speaker 1: I mean, if it snows Saturday night, it's because God
Speaker 1: realized it should snow Saturday night. But I think I
Speaker 1: would be more concerned about the wind in Buffalo than
Speaker 1: the snow, because by the time you play, you know,
Speaker 1: you get going, and I don't think that concerns you
Speaker 1: as much as the wind would. If if I'm a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you tell me would you would you be more concerned
Speaker 1: with the wind and Buffalo if you're you know, the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks or if it snows, Yeah, well it depends on
Speaker 1: how much snow, right. I mean, I was up there
Speaker 1: a few years ago when the Bills played the Colts
Speaker 1: and it was like an absolute monsoon of snow the
Speaker 1: whole time. It was like a blizzard the entire game.
Speaker 1: So that's a totally different story. It doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like that. Wind is absolutely more of
Speaker 1: a factor. Although I'll say this, Dan, the Bills cannot
Speaker 1: run the football and Zach Moss now is hurt. So
Speaker 1: if there's any time, I mean, I would argue that
Speaker 1: the more inclement the weather, right, whether it's wind or
Speaker 1: snow or whatever, I think that plays into the Ravens hands.
Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens the last six games have had
Speaker 1: the most rushing yards of any team in a six
Speaker 1: game stretch since the fifties. I mean, They've had more
Speaker 1: rushing to the last six games than six NFL teams
Speaker 1: had the whole year. Meanwhile, the Bills can't run into Lick.
Speaker 1: So I think the worst the weather, the better it
Speaker 1: is for the Ravens. Quite frankly, yeah, I thought that
Speaker 1: the Ravens were going to be the dangerous team that
Speaker 1: nobody wanted to face, because it almost felt like, and
Speaker 1: you've done the research on this, you'd know better. Something
Speaker 1: happened with Lamar Jackson where maybe he came to the
Speaker 1: realization I need to just go out there and be
Speaker 1: the guy the previous year, like I'm not a pocket passer.
Speaker 1: I'm never going to be a pocket passer, but I
Speaker 1: need to go out there and make plays. And we
Speaker 1: saw that in the game against the Titans. He needed
Speaker 1: to make a big play. He made a big play
Speaker 1: and it changed the complexion of the game. What is
Speaker 1: it that you've seen from Lamar that's different from say,
Speaker 1: the first three quarters of the season. Well, I think
Speaker 1: part of it is what you said, but I think
Speaker 1: the other part of it is Greg Roman, the Ravens
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, he kind of changed. I think he realized
Speaker 1: that with no Marsha Yanda and Ronnie's only getting hurt
Speaker 1: up front. Their offensive line wasn't as athletic. You know,
Speaker 1: they're bigger though. Phillips is like three forty five, Flukers
Speaker 1: three fifty. So rather than trying to run a zone
Speaker 1: scheme up front, they're doing a lot of the same
Speaker 1: backfield action, but it's more gap scheme, which means you
Speaker 1: don't have to move as much. It's more just downhill.
Speaker 1: And you know what else, Dan, I know they like
Speaker 1: mark ingram. They realize that JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards
Speaker 1: are better. Those guys are just better. Dobbins and Edwards
Speaker 1: are better. They get more yards and the scores have
Speaker 1: been reflected. I mean they have gone on a stretch
Speaker 1: thirty four seventeen against the Cowboys, forty seven forty two
Speaker 1: against the Browns, forty points against the Jaguars. These two teams,
Speaker 1: the Bills and the Ravens, have the best point differential
Speaker 1: in the NFL over the last six games. When people
Speaker 1: like you have been asking me who might be able
Speaker 1: to beat the Chiefs, I've said the Bills or the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Now the Chiefs, I think benefit They only have to
Speaker 1: play one one of them because they're gonna play each other. First,
Speaker 1: we're talking to Ross Tucker in the former NFL offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: and he'll be on the call with Westwood One with
Speaker 1: the Bills in the Ravens Saturday Night Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
Speaker 1: What should the Texans do with Deshaun Watson. Well, they're
Speaker 1: not going to trade him. That makes absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: They need to first get him to get in touch
Speaker 1: with them and actually listen, to listen to what they
Speaker 1: have to say. And you know, I hate to say it, Dan,
Speaker 1: but I would imagine that they're gonna now hire a
Speaker 1: head coach that is Deshaun Watson approved. I think they'll
Speaker 1: probably talk to him about it, maybe give him a
Speaker 1: few names, and if they come down to a guy
Speaker 1: or two, they're gonna probably lean to the one that
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson would prefer. He is the most important person
Speaker 1: in the building. If you have a top ten franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: they get paid the most by a lot, they're by
Speaker 1: far the most important. It's easy to me that he
Speaker 1: reportedly likes b Enemy. Dan. They were the only team
Speaker 1: that the six that had openings that didn't request an
Speaker 1: initial interview with Eric b Enemy, the only team and
Speaker 1: by the way they asked Deshan for his feedback, he said,
Speaker 1: b enemy and then they're the only one that didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost like they went out of their
Speaker 1: way to say, de Shawn, we don't care what you think.
Speaker 1: You're the player. You just play, Like, why wouldn't you Dan, Logically,
Speaker 1: even if you weren't going to hire him, just interview
Speaker 1: him because your franchise quarterback wants you to. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have given him that power to have a say so,
Speaker 1: but you did. Therefore you have to listen to him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Brady had any input on I'm
Speaker 1: going to take less money or spread this out. I'm
Speaker 1: going to leave it up to coach Belichick to be
Speaker 1: able to decide who he wants to bring in. We
Speaker 1: thought all along, or that can't be the case, Brady
Speaker 1: should have a say. And then the more I researched it,
Speaker 1: the more I found out Brady didn't have a say
Speaker 1: in who they brought in. Here, you're given to Shaun Watson,
Speaker 1: who's what twenty five kind of not veto power, but
Speaker 1: he's involved in the process there. So Houston created this.
Speaker 1: They should at least acknowledge, you know, his input here.
Speaker 1: Totally agree. And by the way, what you said about
Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick, I think that's part of the reason
Speaker 1: why Brady's no longer in New England and in Tampa.
Speaker 1: I think he just kinda got sick of that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he got sick of taking less and then
Speaker 1: they weren't actually getting better players for him. What am
Speaker 1: I taking less for? And I'm throwing it to an
Speaker 1: old Edelman and a bunch of guys that stink. Why
Speaker 1: am I taking less for you? To put these guys
Speaker 1: around me? What kind of surprises you think you'll see?
Speaker 1: You got one this weekend. Yeah, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a surprise, but I think the Ravens
Speaker 1: are gonna win Saturday night, and I think the Bucks
Speaker 1: are going to beat the Saints. So look, they're not
Speaker 1: big spread. We talked about it on the even Money podcast.
Speaker 1: It's like two and a half and three, so neither
Speaker 1: one of these would be shocking. But I just think
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the way they run the football, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Colts should have beat the Bills. The Colts for
Speaker 1: the better team on Saturday. They just screwed it up
Speaker 1: multiple different ways. Josh Allen played awesome, and the Bills
Speaker 1: still barely won. Meanwhile, the Bucks are getting back Devin
Speaker 1: White and Steve McClendon. Brady's playing way better than he
Speaker 1: was earlier in the year, and I think it's very
Speaker 1: difficult to beat a team three times. So out of
Speaker 1: the underdogs the upsets, I'll take the Bucks as well
Speaker 1: as the Ravens on the road. Explain to me Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald and how that like the Packers and Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: the game plan you'll have, and how it focuses on
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. So what's interesting about that Dan is I
Speaker 1: wonder how effective he's going to be able to be.
Speaker 1: You know, the reports are that he tore rib cartilage
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. That is really painful. I never had
Speaker 1: that happen, but I've had guys tell me it's more
Speaker 1: painful than actually if you crack a rib, if you
Speaker 1: tear that cartilage, and so much like if you see him,
Speaker 1: he is so twitchy, and he's so explosive, and he
Speaker 1: contorts his hips to try to get the corner on
Speaker 1: the guards. I just I don't know if he's gonna
Speaker 1: be as effective as he normally would be. He's a guy,
Speaker 1: though I can remember. Do you remember You probably don't
Speaker 1: remember Tommy Harris when he played for the Bears. Tommy
Speaker 1: Harris had like a two or three year run. Coahoma
Speaker 1: was unreal. I remember playing for the Browns Dan, and
Speaker 1: even if we were supposed to slide the protection the
Speaker 1: other way, I was starting at center. You we're gonna
Speaker 1: go one way. We made a deal and Drew Zie
Speaker 1: and Cosey Coleman wherever Tommy Harris was, we were gonna
Speaker 1: double team him, and we all kind of we all
Speaker 1: kind of made a pack. That's the pack you have
Speaker 1: to have with Aaron Donald. You're to have an understanding
Speaker 1: that even if that's not all you're supposed to do,
Speaker 1: you better do it otherwise somebody's gonna get embarrassed. You
Speaker 1: have Jalen Ramsey on the back end too, So do
Speaker 1: you just say to Jalen Ramsey, Davante Adams is your friend,
Speaker 1: like you two are gonna be together an awful lot
Speaker 1: the entire game, and then you take your chances elsewhere. Correct,
Speaker 1: It's like Hoosiers And you got to know what flavor
Speaker 1: gummy is at the end of the game. For Jayleen,
Speaker 1: you know what's weird, Dan, I really I missed on
Speaker 1: the Rams. I did not think they were gonna be good.
Speaker 1: If you look at their defense, it's there's no players
Speaker 1: in the middle. That it's Aaron Donald twenty something million
Speaker 1: a year, Jalen Ramsey twenty something million a year, and
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys making the minimum. But they figured
Speaker 1: out if you have two top ten defensive players in
Speaker 1: the NFL, you can kind of fill in the other
Speaker 1: pieces as long as you have those two. I was skeptical,
Speaker 1: but man, it worked. And they're decordinator Brandon Staley. That
Speaker 1: guy is a stud. He should be a head coach
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, you're not alone in missing on the
Speaker 1: Rams because I did too, because I didn't know how
Speaker 1: good the offense was going to be. Then they get
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. You got an offensive mighty head coach who
Speaker 1: then changed over to understanding I'm gonna win with defense
Speaker 1: here and just enough offense before I let you go
Speaker 1: to Browns and the Chiefs. The Browns win this by
Speaker 1: doing what running the crap out of the football and
Speaker 1: playing zone coverage on defense and not giving up anything
Speaker 1: cheap and deep. But they got the best old line
Speaker 1: in football and Chubb and Hunt are playing at a
Speaker 1: really high level. They need to try to pound the
Speaker 1: Chiefs into submission. I think they have a shot. I
Speaker 1: don't agree with the betting line on that one, Dan
Speaker 1: at all. I said that on the even Money podcast.
Speaker 1: That is way too many points. I think the Browns
Speaker 1: have a chance. They've got a good formula, and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs haven't been able to put anybody away or blow
Speaker 1: anybody out in forever. So I like the Browns and
Speaker 1: the points for entertainment purposes only. I like the Browns
Speaker 1: an awful lot against the Steelers, and so you don't
Speaker 1: have your coaches and you go in there and you know,
Speaker 1: you blow them out. I think if the Browns don't
Speaker 1: get full of themselves, which they have that capability of
Speaker 1: doing it, but hopefully Kevin Stevanski back, will, you know,
Speaker 1: make sure that doesn't happen. I think if they do
Speaker 1: go in there with that game plan, they make it
Speaker 1: interesting because I have to keep Mahomes off the field
Speaker 1: as long as possible, and I cannot let any one
Speaker 1: of those receivers get behind me, you know, and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs they let teams hang in there. Ross. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's it's a fault of theirs. They do win, but
Speaker 1: they let you hang around, almost as if they're teasing you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Two thoughts on that one is the Browns are also
Speaker 1: getting their best oldlignement back Joel Betonio. They're best defensive
Speaker 1: back back. They should be getting back Denzel Ward. And
Speaker 1: you're exactly right, you know, you talk to any of
Speaker 1: these math guys, Dan, the Chiefs had how many games
Speaker 1: in a row? Were they one by one score or less?
Speaker 1: You're gonna lose one of those, like they almost would
Speaker 1: have been better off if they lost to the Falcons,
Speaker 1: or they lost one of those games earlier, because if
Speaker 1: they do that in the playoffs against the Browns or
Speaker 1: the Bill's Ravens or whatever, they're gonna lose. The odds
Speaker 1: tell you you keep trying to win these one score games,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go against you. One of these times. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna get that break like they did against the Falcons.
Speaker 1: Have fun in Buffalo. There ross always great to talk
Speaker 1: to you. I will absolutely thanks for having me, Dan,
Speaker 1: and we don't have to have that question answered. Can
Speaker 1: Lamar win the big one like Kenny win a playoff
Speaker 1: game here? I know, but you know, Dan, what's gonna happen? Right?
Speaker 1: If they lose Saturday Night all offseason? Can Lamar win
Speaker 1: in the snow? Can Lamar Jackson ever win a snow
Speaker 1: game in his whole career? And this will be his
Speaker 1: first snow game? So yeah, hopefully he shows out here.
Speaker 1: Thank you Ross. That's Ross Tucker, the Ross Tucker Football Podcast,
Speaker 1: and he'll be on the calls Saturday Night on Westwood
Speaker 1: One with the Ravens and the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: were wondering because we know Ross pretty well, but do
Speaker 1: you think he's like that at home? Where's the apple sauce? Like,
Speaker 1: just walk around the house full blast, big as a house. Well,
Speaker 1: I know that Vitawe is not like that when he's
Speaker 1: at home. I'm taking out the garbage because he doesn't,
Speaker 1: you know, eat pot rosy and this is awesome, baby.
Speaker 1: He's very very quiet. And I've worked with people who
Speaker 1: are different on the air as they are off. Chris
Speaker 1: Burman is Chris Burman. That's Chris. Chris is like that
Speaker 1: off the air as well. Vitall is the shocker because
Speaker 1: I remember when I first got there nineteen eighty nine,
Speaker 1: and I think it was Sienna upset Stanford first round
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament, and I walked in to the studio and
Speaker 1: Dicky v Is yelling to Howie Schwab Helle, I need
Speaker 1: something on Sienna and I think Stanford had Todd Lichty
Speaker 1: and but you know, Vitowel was very calm off the air.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, that light goes on and he
Speaker 1: goes on. I went, oh, wow, he's not really like that.
Speaker 1: But there's some guys who were like that. It's hard
Speaker 1: to do that. You have to kind of plug in
Speaker 1: and be something when you're on the air, as opposed
Speaker 1: to this is just who you are. Yeah. Point, this
Speaker 1: is an old reference. But one of our favorites back
Speaker 1: in the day, Van Earl, right on CNN you work.
Speaker 1: Van Earl on air was full blast. I was wondering
Speaker 1: in the hallways. Was he Van Earl? No? He was
Speaker 1: just Earl. No. But but he had a great stick.
Speaker 1: I mean Earl with doing headline sports was great. He
Speaker 1: was entertaining and kind of created his own cottage industry there,
Speaker 1: but off the air we just called him Earle. Do
Speaker 1: you think Stephen A. Smith off the air is similar.
Speaker 1: I think he's quieter. I think Stephen A. Knows what
Speaker 1: he's then an entertainer, steven A knows I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: some fun and I'm gonna ratchet things up here a
Speaker 1: little bit. But it's tough to be that kind of
Speaker 1: big personality all the time. It's exhausting. It's like when
Speaker 1: you meet people and you go, oh, you're not the
Speaker 1: same guy in the ring as you are outside the ring,
Speaker 1: or on the football field as you and you realize
Speaker 1: you can't be that way. It's hard to be that demonstrative.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if some of these football players
Speaker 1: when they go home that they celebrate like ya over
Speaker 1: little things like my daughter got an a and she's
Speaker 1: in a fourth grade. It doesn't happen. I think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: imagine like steven A going to get gas. I don't
Speaker 1: want to let it, don't need it, don't have it.
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Speaker 1: poll question we've settled on mclovin. If you were the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, would you take trade calls for Deshaun Watson? Yes,
Speaker 1: if you Once you do it, then it feels like
Speaker 1: it's the point of no return. If I if I
Speaker 1: knew that I was going to trade him, or that
Speaker 1: he wanted to be traded. He has to want to
Speaker 1: be traded by the way he's got the no trade clause,
Speaker 1: if I knew that he wanted and I could not
Speaker 1: repair this because I can repair to Shaun Watson, I
Speaker 1: don't think I can repair James Harden. And the thing
Speaker 1: with James Harden is I truly feel like they do
Speaker 1: have a nucleus to be competitive. They're not winning anything,
Speaker 1: they were never winning anything, but they do if Boogie
Speaker 1: Cousins is able to contribute Christian Wood, like they have
Speaker 1: some players here, it's not that they're pathetic, they're just
Speaker 1: not inspired. Like you know, you show up and then
Speaker 1: you see that your star player doesn't really want to
Speaker 1: be there, like he's just putting in half an effort here,
Speaker 1: not even getting twenty points in the last four games,
Speaker 1: and I think because of that, it just feels like
Speaker 1: there's this cloud that's hovering over Houston. With the Rockets.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is reparable, but they have their work. First
Speaker 1: of all, they have to get in touch with him,
Speaker 1: and then they have to find out where he stands
Speaker 1: and how they can accommodate him, how they can make
Speaker 1: this a better situation. But as it is right now,
Speaker 1: if DeShawn wantson, wants out and he has the no
Speaker 1: trade clause, then you have to start listening to offers.
Speaker 1: But once you start listening, then you have to go
Speaker 1: through with it. Yeah, pull, they have Deshaun. The Texans
Speaker 1: have Deshaun Watson under contract until through the two twenty
Speaker 1: five season. He'll be thirty years old. The average pay
Speaker 1: he'll make per year is twenty nine million, which is
Speaker 1: every year is becoming cheap, cheaper for a guy of
Speaker 1: his elk. They have it. They stumbled into de Shaun Watson,
Speaker 1: who was supposedly the number one pick of the draft,
Speaker 1: and they got them you know, way later than that.
Speaker 1: There's no there's no way, right, Yeah, your your goal
Speaker 1: is to find a quarterback in this league before everything else.
Speaker 1: Like ross that they already got that. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you get they don't have any draft picks, they have
Speaker 1: salary camp here issues. If you look back, you can
Speaker 1: find old stories where Aaron Rodgers was disgruntled and Tom
Speaker 1: Brady was disgruntled. And the one thing that those teams
Speaker 1: did was they fixed the supporting cast. But Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: didn't say, hey, we got rid of Mike McCarthy. I
Speaker 1: want to be involved in the process to decide who
Speaker 1: we're hiring. He may not have liked Matt Lafloor when
Speaker 1: he first got there, but he likes him now. Rogers
Speaker 1: had built up the cache to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: Here's Deshaun Watson where they acquiesced to him and go, hey,
Speaker 1: you're going to be involved in this, and then they
Speaker 1: don't want to hear his opinion. Yeah, mcclubbin. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Green Bay is a great example. They drafted
Speaker 1: a quarterback like they didn't support their guy too in
Speaker 1: a way, in a way, a different way. Well, they're
Speaker 1: thinking about the future here. It's not the immediate future,
Speaker 1: you hope, it's a really really distant future. There coming
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