Speaker 1: This is he said a yadiho with Eric Winter and
Speaker 1: Rodlin fantag.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, welcome back to another episode, he said, A
Speaker 2: yet d ho.
Speaker 1: How's everybody? How are you?
Speaker 2: I hope we are doing well out there. We are excited.
Speaker 2: We have a very cool guest. I've always been pretty
Speaker 2: fascinated by hypnosis, and we have a hypnotist with us
Speaker 2: here today, Sasha Guardion Gad.
Speaker 3: She's also a transformational coach with more than oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: seventeen years of experience. She has earned her a reputation
Speaker 3: as a go to expert for Hollywood celebrities, visionary entrepreneurs,
Speaker 3: and high performing individuals at pivotal moments in your lives.
Speaker 3: What do you know about being hypnotized?
Speaker 2: I think I was, if I remember right, Like back
Speaker 2: in junior high they brought a hypnotist in. It was
Speaker 2: kind of for fun, and I don't think I ever
Speaker 2: really fully went under. I have a lot of questions
Speaker 2: because I want to know the science behind it. I
Speaker 2: went and have you ever been hypnotized?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I have?
Speaker 2: Did you did it work?
Speaker 3: Many many many years ago? I did it because of
Speaker 3: my claustrophobia.
Speaker 2: But it was you actually felt.
Speaker 3: Actually I've done it three times, even with Eve. You
Speaker 3: know Eve Williams a friend, her mom does it. I
Speaker 3: went to Eve's mom. I don't remember too much with experience.
Speaker 3: She said that I was out, like I was sleeping
Speaker 3: for like an hour to meet for like five minutes.
Speaker 3: So I was very confused. And then I did an
Speaker 3: actor Nick Xenna Xeno. Nick Xeno, he had a really
Speaker 3: close friend that was a hypnotist and he dealt with phobias,
Speaker 3: and I said, you know, I have panic attacks when
Speaker 3: I'm in the plane. I remember him explaining to me,
Speaker 3: if you tap here, if you tap.
Speaker 2: The straight You've done this three times and you still
Speaker 2: have the same phobias.
Speaker 1: It hasn't work, But I'm sure Sasha will make a word.
Speaker 2: Let's talk to Sasha about this. We're going to dive in.
Speaker 2: Let's bring her in.
Speaker 1: Yes, Hey, Sasha, how are you good?
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 1: How are you nice? Meeting you? Nice?
Speaker 4: Meeting you guys as well.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us today on the podcast.
Speaker 2: We're excited to talk to you.
Speaker 1: We have so many questions.
Speaker 3: You have no idea because this whole topic is fascinating.
Speaker 2: We actually started in the intro well before we get
Speaker 2: into the hypnosis of it, all our thoughts and everything else.
Speaker 2: Just talk about you. What how did you get into hypnosis?
Speaker 2: When did you realize you could do it? How does
Speaker 2: that even work? Do you have to go to school
Speaker 2: for something like that? Is it a gift that you
Speaker 2: have naturally? Like a medium that you start to hart like?
Speaker 2: How does that work?
Speaker 3: Well, you, guys, she's going to talk about her childhood
Speaker 3: because everything starts there, the trauma on what happened to you.
Speaker 3: So if you're comfortable, we would love to.
Speaker 1: Hear about it.
Speaker 4: Yes, of course, And first of all, thank you so
Speaker 4: much for having me on the show. I'm so happy
Speaker 4: to hear to be here with you guys. Yeah, for me,
Speaker 4: it started way back because when I was five and
Speaker 4: my sister three, our mother disappeared. My parents were in
Speaker 4: the process of getting a divorce. My father was a
Speaker 4: really abusive alcoholic. My mother had done everything to try
Speaker 4: to save him, and she got to the point where
Speaker 4: she realized that who she needed to save was us.
Speaker 4: So they were in the process of getting a divorce
Speaker 4: and because of that, my sister and I were allowed
Speaker 4: to sleep with my mom. The night my mom disappeared,
Speaker 4: I remember her talking u Sin saying good night, and
Speaker 4: in the morning.
Speaker 1: She was gone, oh my god, this in Puerto Rico, Sasha.
Speaker 4: Yes, my mother was Puerto Rican, my dad Mexican.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is in Puerto Rico.
Speaker 4: No, No, this was here in La and raised in La.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And what ended up happening was that they would
Speaker 4: ultimately question my father as to her disappearance. And then
Speaker 4: my father disappeared. Isn't that crazy? Two days after she
Speaker 4: had disappeared, he disappeared, so clearly he became suspect number one.
Speaker 4: Of course, nobodies were identified that match to my mother.
Speaker 4: My grandmother ultimately adopted us. Abuela, my grandmother became the
Speaker 4: oldest woman in the state of California at that time
Speaker 4: to adopt children.
Speaker 3: Abola from mom's side or yes, your mother's side, okay,
Speaker 3: your grandmother.
Speaker 1: And she was living here in California.
Speaker 4: Yes, because she had come to help with us, and
Speaker 4: so she was already here when it happened.
Speaker 2: So she's raising you. And still nothing like, where did
Speaker 2: the investigation go. What was the Let me tell us
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it went absolutely nowhere because there wasn't a single lead,
Speaker 4: So we didn't hear anything about my mother's case for years.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't until I went to UCLA and I
Speaker 4: was nineteen, and I realized, my god, I'm so different
Speaker 4: from all these other kids. You guys know, the Westwood
Speaker 4: area is a very affluent area, and here I was,
Speaker 4: without parents, without any support, without any money, trying to
Speaker 4: figure things out in college. And I decided that I
Speaker 4: wanted to know what had happened. So I started asking
Speaker 4: family members, and everybody had the same answer, which is,
Speaker 4: I don't know. One day I spoke to an uncle
Speaker 4: who offered to take me to Mexico and see if
Speaker 4: I could find my dad. He said he didn't know
Speaker 4: what had happened, but maybe I could.
Speaker 1: Get some answers.
Speaker 4: So imagine that I get to the airport and there,
Speaker 4: fourteen years after all of this had happened, I see
Speaker 4: my father in Mexico.
Speaker 1: You're like twenty, you're what twenty years old?
Speaker 4: Now I'm nineteen.
Speaker 2: Nineteen at the airport in Mexico.
Speaker 4: Yes, So I asked my father what had happened, and
Speaker 4: he said, well, what happened? And was that your mom
Speaker 4: took off with another man? And I'm as much of
Speaker 4: a victim as you are.
Speaker 1: And is it true.
Speaker 2: I hate you. I hate to ask that question. Did
Speaker 2: you believe him at that time?
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I believed him, and in retrospect, you know, honestly,
Speaker 4: I had always been a daddy's little girl. I loved
Speaker 4: my father, and you know, my grandmother as much as
Speaker 4: Abuela did her best with us. Abuela was very old school,
Speaker 4: kind of a very strict disciplinarian, and she wasn't affectionate
Speaker 4: with us. So I grew up really feeling like I
Speaker 4: didn't have family. So I embraced my father and I
Speaker 4: was a part of his life. From there on for
Speaker 4: ten years, I was a part of his family. He
Speaker 4: had remarried, started to have more kids. I loved my
Speaker 4: brothers and sisters.
Speaker 3: What about your little sister, she stayed in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: Yes, So my sister was already in law school when
Speaker 4: this whole thing, and I told her what had happened
Speaker 4: and what he had said, and she never believed them.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: She always had just a bad gut feeling, and she
Speaker 4: kind of kept her distance. At one point she kind
Speaker 4: of came around for a little bit, but then she
Speaker 4: just kept her distance. I think a part of her
Speaker 4: wanted to believe it, but then a part of her didn't.
Speaker 4: And then I believed until my father's stories started changing
Speaker 4: a little here, a little there. And then one day
Speaker 4: the same uncle that had taken me to Mexico confessed
Speaker 4: to me the truth, which is what my father had
Speaker 4: murdered my mother in the same room that we had
Speaker 4: been sleeping. And can you imagine.
Speaker 2: While you were not while you were in the room,
Speaker 2: or just while we were.
Speaker 4: In the room, like right next to them anything. That's
Speaker 4: the thing is my sister and I don't have any recollection.
Speaker 4: And now that I am a hypnotherapist and transformational coach,
Speaker 4: people always ask me, well, why don't you hypnotize yourself
Speaker 4: to remember that? And I always explained, why would I
Speaker 4: do that? Why go stirring the pot? You know, it's
Speaker 4: about healing, not about living in the past. Why. God.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And this was proven not just as your uncle
Speaker 2: said it, but the police were involved.
Speaker 1: He confessed. Did your dad finally confessed or so?
Speaker 4: When I confronted my father over the phone, I think
Speaker 4: he thought that the phone was tapped and it was
Speaker 4: almost as though a switch had gone off, because my
Speaker 4: father treated me in a way that he had never
Speaker 4: spoken to me and pretty much told me off and
Speaker 4: then hung up the phone. And after that I was
Speaker 4: focused on getting justice. Nothing was happening because he couldn't
Speaker 4: be extradited. Yeah, and then one day I got the
Speaker 4: call that he was sick in a hospital and it
Speaker 4: looked like he was going to die. His mother called
Speaker 4: and said, you need to be here for your father,
Speaker 4: and I thought the nerve But you know what, I'm
Speaker 4: going to go down there because I want to find
Speaker 4: out where my my mother's bodies. So I go down
Speaker 4: there and imagine that I have my dad laying in
Speaker 4: front of me in this hospital bed, and I asked
Speaker 4: him to tell me the truth, and for a brief moment,
Speaker 4: it looked like he was going to tell me what
Speaker 4: had happened, what he had done, and then he said, no,
Speaker 4: you know, that happened a long time ago, and besides,
Speaker 4: I've been a good father.
Speaker 2: Wow. Was that that was probably enough for you to
Speaker 2: get confirmation from him?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, it was enough. And all of his family
Speaker 4: members said the same exact thing, because he had told them,
Speaker 4: so I absolutely knew what he had done.
Speaker 2: So he told he actually confessed to the whole family
Speaker 2: that had murdered your mom, oh yeah, yeah, Wow, what
Speaker 2: did he How much information did he give up in
Speaker 2: that confession, just just the fact or details of anything.
Speaker 2: Did you ever get resolution? Did you ever get closure?
Speaker 4: So my father was at the time, he was a
Speaker 4: So my understanding is that he took my mother's body,
Speaker 4: he drove past the the border, and he disposed of
Speaker 4: our body in such a way where she wouldn't be
Speaker 4: able to be idda.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Not how I thought this was a podcast. This is wild,
Speaker 2: Like we are shocked, and thank you for sharing.
Speaker 1: I know this is like a movie. This is a movie.
Speaker 1: This is like unheard of.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So what is your relationship with your sister Now?
Speaker 4: I absolutely love my sister. I adore her. We're closer
Speaker 4: than ever before. So it's interesting because I'm in the
Speaker 4: business of helping people to get past whatever's holding them
Speaker 4: back and be at their best. My sister, on the
Speaker 4: other hand, is all about getting people justice. She's an
Speaker 4: attorney up the San fran.
Speaker 2: You two are a one two punch for sure, with
Speaker 2: helping helping the world. So did you obviously not stayed
Speaker 2: in touch with your father's side in Mexico anymore? Beyond that,
Speaker 2: I'm guessing right.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, the people who had hit, what had happened.
Speaker 4: I kept my distance from them for a long time. Recently,
Speaker 4: I actually in the last few years, I spoke to
Speaker 4: my one uncle and right away he started crying and
Speaker 4: he apologized and I forgave him his wife. My aunt
Speaker 4: refused to talk to me.
Speaker 1: Oh God, And.
Speaker 4: I thought, out of the nerve, you know, it's like you,
Speaker 4: you don't want to talk to me. You've been lying
Speaker 4: to me all these years. You know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: let it go. God bless her, send her light and love,
Speaker 4: and it's okay.
Speaker 3: So you moved, Okay, So you went to Mexico. You
Speaker 3: were there for ten years. Then you know the truth.
Speaker 2: You didn't live in Mexico for ten years.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I was around my father for ten years.
Speaker 4: So I was going back to side and forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, this is after college, Like you were going
Speaker 2: back and forth establishing that relationship. But you had roots here.
Speaker 3: Yes, So the hypnosis of it all started as a
Speaker 3: personal journey to you for your own healing exactly.
Speaker 4: So the next step after this whole thing had happened,
Speaker 4: was that I really needed to heal myself and the
Speaker 4: thing is that I was experiencing so much anxiety depression.
Speaker 4: I had even lost my faith in something even greater.
Speaker 4: I just felt so alone and I felt like God
Speaker 4: had really let me down. To be totally honest, and
Speaker 4: I was desperate because I was in a bad mental state.
Speaker 4: I had gone to see a traditional therapist. I went
Speaker 4: to see a psychiatrist. I took the pills. I had
Speaker 4: physical ailments because I had migraines, I had shoulder pain,
Speaker 4: neck pain, I could barely sleep. I even had hair loss,
Speaker 4: and you see, got a lot of hair. And so
Speaker 4: I went to see a doctor. He went to give
Speaker 4: me the same exact prescription. I went to a second
Speaker 4: dog and when he went to give me the same prescription,
Speaker 4: that's when I said, I got gutsy and I said,
Speaker 4: now you know what the problem is. You don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on with me, and that's why you just
Speaker 4: want to give me another prescription. And he said, no,
Speaker 4: what you don't realize is that you have emotional things
Speaker 4: that are causing all of these physical ailments that you have.
Speaker 4: And that conversation led to me finding a book on
Speaker 4: the body and mind connection, and that's when I found
Speaker 4: out about the subconscious mind and something called hypnosis.
Speaker 2: And from the book, and how does that journey go
Speaker 2: for a typical I've come encountered. I've encountered different hypnotherapists
Speaker 2: throughout my life. I've started in junior high just in
Speaker 2: passing you or for fun or like party you hypnosis,
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Yeah, you get intrigued through this book,
Speaker 2: what does someone do? What is that next step when
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm going to study hypnosis and I want
Speaker 2: to go all in and I want to learn this craft.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I was already seeing a hypnotherapist for myself,
Speaker 4: so I'd gone to see a hypnotherapist. It was working.
Speaker 4: I was really feeling the shifts. And one day she
Speaker 4: was a little off, but I had already figured out
Speaker 4: how she formulated the suggestions, and I started telling her
Speaker 4: what suggestions to give me. And she looked at me
Speaker 4: and she said, you know, I bet you to make
Speaker 4: a great hypnotherapist. And I looked at her and I thought,
Speaker 4: I bet you actually would. So she actually put that
Speaker 4: little seed in there, and after that, I just, you know,
Speaker 4: signed up for hypnotherapy school. Next thing you know, I'm
Speaker 4: certified by one and then since I'm such a nerd,
Speaker 4: I went and I got certified by another school.
Speaker 1: Wow, So what is it? Exactly?
Speaker 3: If somebody's completely cluel is about what is hypnotherapist? What
Speaker 3: is it? The most like one to one simple way
Speaker 3: to like if you were to teach a kid, what
Speaker 3: does that mean? Like?
Speaker 1: What is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So it is a state of altered consciousness, which
Speaker 4: is on a a part of the human condition. It's
Speaker 4: absolutely normal. So the goal in a hypnotherapy session is
Speaker 4: to make it so that your brain's wavelengths drop, your
Speaker 4: mind opens up and is able to really receive positive suggestions.
Speaker 4: And what we do is, once we put you in
Speaker 4: this deeply relaxed state, we give your mind suggestions that
Speaker 4: are in line with you, completely eliminating whatever it is
Speaker 4: that's blocking you and number two retraining the mind. And
Speaker 4: the great thing that we do at my offices is
Speaker 4: that we also record the sessions for you.
Speaker 3: How do you recognize what's causing the problem? I remember,
Speaker 3: It's interesting. I went to one many many many many
Speaker 3: years ago, and I remember that when I was under
Speaker 3: the state of subconsciousness.
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 3: I saw me walking in with a shirt that was
Speaker 3: like lemnas like a navy you know, white a navy line,
Speaker 3: white line, and how you call that?
Speaker 4: Like? Man? Yes, yes, I.
Speaker 1: Was like that, and I was young.
Speaker 3: I was maybe ten years old, and I walked in
Speaker 3: and my dad was just talking very like as usual,
Speaker 3: very like loud to my mom, and I remember vivially
Speaker 3: seeing the way I looked and that wardrobe and how
Speaker 3: it made me feel, which was like, oh, here we
Speaker 3: go again.
Speaker 1: I'm scared. I'm gonna go to my bedroom. And I
Speaker 1: remember then calling my mom said, Mom, but you remember.
Speaker 3: If I ever had a T shirt that was like this?
Speaker 3: And she couldn't remember, But what was that? To this day,
Speaker 3: I remember that moment, but I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was real.
Speaker 4: Oh, I assure you that, I mean, I really do
Speaker 4: believe that it was real because the mind took you
Speaker 4: there for a reason. It was showing you something about
Speaker 4: your childhood that relates with whatever was going on in
Speaker 4: your life at that time. So things show up in
Speaker 4: your life so that you can heal them. So I'll
Speaker 4: give you a really good example. Years ago, I had
Speaker 4: a client that I successfully helped. She brought in her
Speaker 4: mom for this really bad fear of flying. When the
Speaker 4: woman came in, I asked her what her relaxing place
Speaker 4: would be, because that's one of the things that we
Speaker 4: crosswire when we do a session to help the person
Speaker 4: really relax. The woman said she didn't have a relaxing place,
Speaker 4: and I said, okay, how about a moment when you
Speaker 4: where you were really relaxed. She's like none, And I
Speaker 4: said how about a happy moment? She said none? And
Speaker 4: I said, you're the mother of two daughters. You're telling
Speaker 4: me that there hasn't been a single happy moment. She
Speaker 4: said no, So I continued, right, I continued, And since
Speaker 4: I had been asking her so much those questions, her
Speaker 4: mind on its own went and found a memory that
Speaker 4: she had no previous recollection of. She remind she was
Speaker 4: able to remember herself in I think it was Guam,
Speaker 4: and she saw her living at her aunt and uncle's house.
Speaker 4: Her parents were no longer with her. I think her
Speaker 4: mom had gone to work in a different country, and
Speaker 4: she was a family members that didn't treat her very well.
Speaker 4: And she saw herself outside playing and she said she
Speaker 4: had this beautiful yellow dress with flowers on it. And
Speaker 4: she said that even though it was dirty. She felt
Speaker 4: so happy. That was a happy moment that her mind
Speaker 4: went and found.
Speaker 2: Well, that's all happens under hypnosis those moments. Right, you're
Speaker 2: talking to her, she's saying no, it's short answers. She's aware,
Speaker 2: she's at a state of consciousness, but you're going deeper
Speaker 2: into her past communicating with her. And when you get
Speaker 2: someone in that state, the goal is, like you said,
Speaker 2: to sort of give them affirmation or whatever the verbiage is.
Speaker 2: That's going to be repeated and over and over to
Speaker 2: try to train the subconsciousness to rewire so when they
Speaker 2: come back into full consciousness that the brain isn't hitting
Speaker 2: that loop again of whatever dealing.
Speaker 4: With that's right. So what we normally do is we
Speaker 4: talk just like this, and we go over what the
Speaker 4: person wants to change and how they want things to be,
Speaker 4: and then we build a list of suggestions that's what
Speaker 4: you're referring to. That are pretty much instructions that we're
Speaker 4: going to give the mind so that it starts to
Speaker 4: change the way the person sees things, feels about things,
Speaker 4: and thinks and as well as behaves. And we give
Speaker 4: that person the suggestions and make it so that the
Speaker 4: mind is able to really just absorb those.
Speaker 3: But it happens while you are not aware. So when
Speaker 3: you're giving all those affirmations or the suggestions, let's say
Speaker 3: you have a list of five, I'm under right, you're
Speaker 3: treating me, you're giving me the suggestions, my conscious mind
Speaker 3: is not listening to it. My subconscious mind is.
Speaker 4: So this is the thing, is that for the majority
Speaker 4: of the session you are aware. There's sometimes where you
Speaker 4: go a little bit deeper. Sometimes you're a little bit lighter,
Speaker 4: next thing, you know, deeper, a little bit lighter, a
Speaker 4: little bit deeper. It's it's kind of like a wave
Speaker 4: and your mind is absorbing everything during that time frame.
Speaker 4: It's like you have a foot in both worlds. And
Speaker 4: the goal is to make it so that if your
Speaker 4: conscious mind was here and the subconscious was here, you're
Speaker 4: aligning them, making it so that everybody is on the
Speaker 4: same page. Because a lot of times what happens is
Speaker 4: you may know exactly what you want to achieve and
Speaker 4: what you need to do to do that, but what
Speaker 4: happens is that if your subconscious mind is on a
Speaker 4: different page, it'll ultimately always sabotage you.
Speaker 2: So what type of maybe there's different versions of hipo therapy,
Speaker 2: because what is the one like again, I've seen it
Speaker 2: at parties, right, and it's more for fun. What do
Speaker 2: you mean a part like my junior high part, like
Speaker 2: a grad party. They brought somebody and they brought all
Speaker 2: these kids up in psychic no hypno therapist and then
Speaker 2: they go like boom and the kids like huh and
Speaker 2: now you know what I mean? And then they make
Speaker 2: them do silly things or they make it for fun.
Speaker 2: I don't remember doing any of that. And you know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Is that a different form of hypnotherapy or hypnosis? What
Speaker 2: is that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I guess I should explain the difference between
Speaker 4: hypnosis and hypnotherapy. Hypnosis general term that's used for all
Speaker 4: forms of hypnosis hypno therapy is the use of hypnosis
Speaker 4: as a therapeutic tool. And the stuff that people experience
Speaker 4: in shows, that's entertainment hypnosis. So it's totally different from
Speaker 4: what we do in our offices, is it?
Speaker 1: Oh, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you. So I'll tell you how that functions.
Speaker 4: Notice that when you go to these shows, they will
Speaker 4: bring in a bunch of volunteers. Everybody goes up to
Speaker 4: the front. Right. Notice that he's doing all of these tests,
Speaker 4: doing all of these things, And what he's doing is
Speaker 4: he's weeding out the people that are not naturally as suggestible,
Speaker 4: because when you're doing stage show stuff, you need people
Speaker 4: that are the most suggestible right then and there because
Speaker 4: their minds will go with it.
Speaker 3: But how do you identify that, Like how somebody see
Speaker 3: twenty people and know by looking at somebody that one
Speaker 3: is a target?
Speaker 1: How do you know that?
Speaker 4: So he doesn't know, So he has to get them
Speaker 4: on the stage and then do all of these different
Speaker 4: things and see how everybody responds. And then notice that
Speaker 4: he keeps making the group smaller, smaller and smaller, till
Speaker 4: next to you know, he's he's left with about six
Speaker 4: people and those are the most highly suggestible people in
Speaker 4: the lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. That's what I remember. I vaguely
Speaker 2: junior high, so I'm vaguely going back and trying to
Speaker 2: remember these things, but I do recall it being somewhat
Speaker 2: like that. People going up elimination, there was a handful left,
Speaker 2: and you would see the ones that were very I
Speaker 2: guess suggestible to this whole process, you know, boom, they
Speaker 2: were out. They'd snap tap their head and then they'd
Speaker 2: have him do funny things and then they'd wake them
Speaker 2: back up.
Speaker 1: And what is explanation?
Speaker 3: Like I went once, we have a dear friend that
Speaker 3: her mother used to practice. I don't know if she's
Speaker 3: active anymore. And I remember that I went and she
Speaker 3: said that I was not out. That's not the phrase
Speaker 3: you used.
Speaker 1: She said that. She asked me, how long do you
Speaker 1: think you've been kind of like daydreaming?
Speaker 3: And I said, I don't know, five ten minutes, and
Speaker 3: she now it's been an hour, And I had no idea.
Speaker 1: How is that possible?
Speaker 4: That is what is called the hypnotic time warp. And
Speaker 4: what happens is that when you're in a hypnotic state,
Speaker 4: you lose all sense of time, and so it could
Speaker 4: be that you feel time a lot longer or shorter.
Speaker 4: Normally people will say, oh my god, I thought it
Speaker 4: was like five or to ten minutes, but in reality
Speaker 4: it was a lot longer.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what happened to me.
Speaker 2: If people aren't fully suggestible to hypnosis and the broader scope,
Speaker 2: I'm assuming hypnotherapy can't necessarily work. For everyone. You have
Speaker 2: to be fully open and willing and wanting to go
Speaker 2: to see the process and receive correct like I'm sure
Speaker 2: you've had some clients where it just didn't work as
Speaker 2: well as other clients.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in order for hypnotherapy to work, you have to
Speaker 4: want whatever you are coming in for, because honestly, we
Speaker 4: navigate your mind, but it's really always you who is
Speaker 4: making the changes happen, So there can't be any form
Speaker 4: of resistance. You have to be able to flow with
Speaker 4: it and really get into it. So this way the
Speaker 4: mind can absorb the suggestions. Otherwise it's not happening. So
Speaker 4: the person has to be one hundred person on board.
Speaker 3: Do you think that every single these seas or ailment
Speaker 3: or pain physical pain? Do you think that every single
Speaker 3: one is related to some kind of trauma or like
Speaker 3: energetically there's something that you're holding into that is manifesting
Speaker 3: as a pain. Do you think that's correct?
Speaker 4: I do, And I'll give you a really good example.
Speaker 4: A few maybe two years ago, I started experiencing these
Speaker 4: really bad hives on my neck, and I thought I
Speaker 4: had to do something with pollen. I thought had to
Speaker 4: do something with allergies, and it turned out that what
Speaker 4: it was was an emotional response to my partner. Every
Speaker 4: time he pissed me off, I realized I would start
Speaker 4: getting the hives. I would get hot, and I would
Speaker 4: start getting the hives. And what happened was that the
Speaker 4: moment I was able to start working on those issues
Speaker 4: with him, and I was also able to do something
Speaker 4: that I call NRT, which is a way of healing
Speaker 4: the nervous system, the hives went away. And I've been
Speaker 4: clear this whole time.
Speaker 2: Now as this is gonna be kind of a funny question,
Speaker 2: has it ever been challenging, as you mentioned your partner,
Speaker 2: has it ever been challenging having this gift and dating
Speaker 2: or being with someone and going you're a hypnotherapist. How
Speaker 2: do I know you're not trying to hypnotize me right
Speaker 2: now with this conversation and you're getting your way with me?
Speaker 2: Has it ever happened where someone's just questioning what you're doing?
Speaker 4: So, to start with, I'll be totally honest with you.
Speaker 4: My partner used to be a client. Wow, I helped
Speaker 4: cure him of insomnia, and then months later I was
Speaker 4: going to the Philippines and I thought, gosh, didn't I didn't.
Speaker 4: I have a client that said he knew the ins
Speaker 4: and outs of the Philippines, and I thought, oh, that
Speaker 4: one guy, Jerry, and I reached out to him and he,
Speaker 4: you know, filled me in with all of what I
Speaker 4: need to know about the Philippines. And then at one
Speaker 4: point he said, gosh, you're gonna have so much fun.
Speaker 4: I wish I could go, and I thought, why don't
Speaker 4: you go? And he went with me. We have a
Speaker 4: nine year old son.
Speaker 3: Now, by the way, Oh my god, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: That's amazing a client. I love how that story comes together.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you win every argument in the house. You
Speaker 2: look them in the eyes and you make them agree
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: Usually how many sessions like if somebody like I think
Speaker 3: you know this because we have a mutual friend. Your
Speaker 3: manager is a good, dear friend, and he knows about
Speaker 3: my I share with him about my claustrophobia. I've been
Speaker 3: have my my entire life as long as I remember.
Speaker 3: But the older that I'm getting, the more aggressive it gets.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting. I go in, we work out maybe
Speaker 3: you're able to tap into an experience.
Speaker 1: I've done it before.
Speaker 3: Listen, when I've been to psychics, healers, reincarnation. I've been
Speaker 3: to everything trying to figure out why do I have
Speaker 3: this like severe phobia. Nothing works, nobody has. The closest
Speaker 3: that I've gotten is I'm the youngest of four children.
Speaker 3: I have three brothers, and then me and the youngest
Speaker 3: one of the boys, which is still five older, five
Speaker 3: years older than me. We're very close.
Speaker 1: Now, you know.
Speaker 3: But when we were growing up, there was a level
Speaker 3: of I don't want to say jealousy, but he was
Speaker 3: like the little prince and then the girl came along,
Speaker 3: and he always had like a little bit of a
Speaker 3: this subconscious resentment, and I was very much a little tomboy.
Speaker 3: And we will like wrestle the time. I love boxing
Speaker 3: and lucha livre, and he will just we will just
Speaker 3: be playing and he will put a pillow on me
Speaker 3: and like with like rage, and sometimes I felt that
Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm dying, I'm gonna die. And then my
Speaker 3: mom will come in rushing like yo, and we'll like
Speaker 3: grab him.
Speaker 1: And it happened a lot.
Speaker 3: Of course, nothing happened to me, but I always had
Speaker 3: this thing of like I was I remember thinking as
Speaker 3: a child ten more seconds, and I think I was
Speaker 3: gonna pass out.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's it.
Speaker 4: Oh, it is it? It is? You know why, because
Speaker 4: when you're a kid, Number one, you're highly suggestible. When
Speaker 4: we're kids, we are walking and talking sponges. And during
Speaker 4: that timeframe, you really perceived that there was a threat
Speaker 4: to your life and to your mind, it was a
Speaker 4: genuine threat. And the very fact that it kept happening
Speaker 4: over and over again it really conditioned that behavior where
Speaker 4: you know, you experience this fear of being in like
Speaker 4: pretty much smothered. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't breathe.
Speaker 3: That's why when I get into an elevator, if there's
Speaker 3: no oxygen, if it's not cold inside the elevator, I
Speaker 3: can't even inside a plane. And I used to medicate
Speaker 3: myself to be able to fly, and I fly every month.
Speaker 3: Now I'm getting better. But if the plane it's not cold,
Speaker 3: like I talk, every single fly that I take, I
Speaker 3: have to tell the flight attendant you need to put
Speaker 3: the ac higher.
Speaker 1: I'm getting hot and it could be freezing.
Speaker 3: Everybody else is comfortable, but I'm not because I feel
Speaker 3: like I need I need to feel cold and I
Speaker 3: need to feel air, otherwise I will have a panic attack,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna it's just awful. This is the craziest
Speaker 3: feeling about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, your mind has already deemed that if you feel
Speaker 4: the cold, then that equals safe. But if you don't,
Speaker 4: then you're not safe because one of the things that
Speaker 4: you experienced when he was smothering you was heat. Think
Speaker 4: about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, it's crazy, makes sense.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, Sasha, how do our listeners learn more? I
Speaker 2: know you have a team that you work with. They
Speaker 2: want to get in touch with you directly or your team.
Speaker 2: Please tell everybody the best way to reach you if
Speaker 2: they want to explore this.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So my website is Sasha Karon dot com. My
Speaker 4: office website is Heal Yourself Therapy dot com. On Instagram
Speaker 4: on my English account, I am Sasha Garon as well.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I hope everybody you know goes and checks
Speaker 2: out your site and see if you probably can help
Speaker 2: a lot of people, a lot of listeners who are
Speaker 2: going and.
Speaker 3: You deal with all kinds of trauma, pain, claustrophobia, divorce.
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't matter that the pain or the
Speaker 3: trauma that you're having, you're able to go in.
Speaker 4: And work at us. Yeah, So the great thing about
Speaker 4: hypnotherapy is that we're able to customize, to customize each
Speaker 4: session to what the person needs.
Speaker 1: The person has to be in front of you.
Speaker 4: No, we do online sessions all the time. OK. Yeah.
Speaker 4: In fact, I have a client who was the daughter
Speaker 4: of a president and one day she needed a session
Speaker 4: while she was in Europe and I totally hypnotized her,
Speaker 4: you know online.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's great. All right, everybody check out the website.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being on the podcast. A lot of fun.
Speaker 2: Appreciate your time.
Speaker 1: Your story is incredible. It is incredibly sad.
Speaker 3: But the fact that now you are helping people heal
Speaker 3: and you're happily. You know, you're a mom, and you're
Speaker 3: so stunning and like life is thriving for you, it's incredible.
Speaker 2: It's incredible blow complain about their issues in the past,
Speaker 2: and you're clearly someone who rose completely above it all,
Speaker 2: far worse than many people have ever had it. And
Speaker 2: you are a true example coming diversity. Thank you.
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. I really do believe that I'm doing
Speaker 4: what I was put on this sarth to do.
Speaker 1: Love this Amen.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you again, and we look forward to meeting
Speaker 2: you at some point. In person when you come to
Speaker 2: La and this is great. We're excited, thank you.
Speaker 3: What a story, My goodness, fascinating Cane.
Speaker 2: I did not genuinely think this podcast was going to
Speaker 2: start that way. I'm blown away by her strength. Again,
Speaker 2: I said that at the end, and I mean it.
Speaker 2: So many people complain about things they've gone through, and
Speaker 2: you don't. Very few people could hold a candle to
Speaker 2: a past like that and overcome it to be a
Speaker 2: successful functional not just functional, but delivering help and improving
Speaker 2: people's lives.
Speaker 1: And so put together and so smart. And the sister
Speaker 1: a lawyer.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like incredible, girls, it's an amazing testament
Speaker 2: to overcome a adversity.
Speaker 3: You know, it was incredible how God protected those two children.
Speaker 3: They don't remember anything. I guess the way the father
Speaker 3: performed the murder or whatever. I wonder if the dad
Speaker 3: gave them something to make them fall asleep, because I
Speaker 3: think the story could have been maybe slightly different if
Speaker 3: they actually remember anything all of it. So just the
Speaker 3: fact that it's a complete blank canvas is that now
Speaker 3: they know the truth, but they don't.
Speaker 1: They don't. They didn't see it, they didn't hear it.
Speaker 1: It's wild. I wonder if that it was a saving
Speaker 1: grace for them.
Speaker 2: I think so for sure. I'd be far more traumatizing
Speaker 2: to have to, you know, see that happening in the
Speaker 2: moment and then lie. If you did see it in
Speaker 2: the moment, it could have been worse for everybody.
Speaker 1: I know, and everybody knew about it but them. It's like, what,
Speaker 1: just awful, It's very I'm so confused.
Speaker 2: Well, great podcast again, thank you everybody for listening. You know
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