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All right, Dr Dom Let's 30 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: dive into our quote of the day. 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: All right, So, hello, hello everyone. I am Dr Dom 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the other half of Cultivating her Space podcast. I am 33 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist, podcaster, and college professor. I have a 34 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: private practice. For those of you who are living in 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: the state of California and are interesting to beginning your 36 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: therapy journey, Please feel free to visit me at doctor 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Dominique Brussard dot com and we can have a fifteen 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: minute free consultation to see if this therapy journey with 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: me is right for you. All right, So let's get 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: started with our quote of the day. It comes from 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: Steve's Jobs. The only way to do great work is 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: to love what you do. If you haven't found it yet, 43 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: keep looking, don't settle, all right, team, So as we 44 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: think about finding purpose in your odd job. I have 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: to say, to be perfectly honest, that first part of 46 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: our quote of the. 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: Day, I don't agree with that sentence. 48 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: So the only way to do great work is to 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: love what you do. I don't think that's true personally. 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: I think that particularly for folks who are recovering perfectionists 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: or generally type A, I think that you can still 52 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: do great work even if you. 53 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: Don't love it. 54 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: Right people pleasers also like all those folks, right like, 55 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: there's a whole list of folks, and I think at 56 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: some point in my life I have fit into all 57 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: of those. 58 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: Categories of. 59 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Because of those qualities, those personality characteristics, you can do 60 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: great work even if you don't love it. 61 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, Dom, what you know 62 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: somebody like that? What you know a recovering perfectionist or 63 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: recovering people pleasing? But you know somebody like that, because 64 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: you were describing both of us. I already know, or 65 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: at least a former version of us that we are 66 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: that we are working through. But I'm with you. I 67 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: think you made a really good point. I agree with you. 68 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: There's definitely I can think back to jobs that I 69 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: did not necessarily love and because of the standards that 70 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: I had, the personal standards, I did well. I did 71 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: great work because I'm like, this has my name on it. 72 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: I wanted to look good. And speaking of jobs, I 73 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: am curious to know what are some of the odd 74 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: jobs that you remember having just in life in general? 75 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: We know today you are a successful business woman and 76 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: a psychologist and a counselor and all these amazing things. 77 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: But what where did this start? Where did this journey start? 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: Doctor down? 79 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: All right, so let's let's just keep it all the way, 80 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: keep it, keep it on it. So my very first official, 81 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: like on the books, paid government job, we're at the 82 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: start paying taxes, that official. That first official job was 83 00:04:58,720 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: at Baskin Robbins. 84 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: What I remember about working at Baskin Robbins is that 86 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: my siblings teased me because their first jobs, most of them, 87 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: their first job was at McDonald's, right, And they felt 88 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: like my job at Baskin Robbins was easy. 89 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 2: Oh I thought I would won't say bougie. 90 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, probably that too. Okay, probably a bit 91 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: of that too. Yeah, But and technically, I you know, 92 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: when I look back on it, it was fairly easy, right. 93 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: You know, Customers come in and they you know, you 94 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: scoop up some ice cream and we had thirty one 95 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: flavors and you had to know a little bit about 96 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: all the thirty one flavors. And so for a high schooler, though, 97 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that's that was a pretty good first 98 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: first job, right, Like it's I don't know, it just 99 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: felt like it was something that was easy to do. 100 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: And granted, I think why my siblings tease me was 101 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: because the money wasn't as much as what they were doing, 102 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: Like they didn't I worked less much less hours than 103 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: they worked at McDonald's, right, Okay, so for me, like 104 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: the like my shift on you know, would be maybe 105 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: four hours, where they were probably working seven or eight 106 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: hours or whatever the max the law allowed for miners 107 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: to be employed at the time. 108 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 2: Right. 109 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: So I mean, but I enjoyed it, and I'll talk 110 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: about the lessons that I learned from that a little bit. 111 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: But I want to hear about your first job. 112 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: Okay, down, So before I say about the first job, 113 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say I have had an entrepreneurial spirit 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 2: for a long time, and so when I think about 115 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: just getting money in general, I feel like being a 116 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: girl scout when I was younger and selling girls scout cookies. 117 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: That was like one thing. I used to always try 118 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 2: to find stuff that I could do, like clean people's 119 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: houses or I have always been pretty decent and like massaging, 120 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: so i'd be that person. The family was like, I'll 121 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: give you a foot rub or a back rub to 122 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: the you know the old folks love besides, and if 123 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: you pay me this, like I'll you know what I mean, 124 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 2: Like I'll, yeah, I'll do this. So those were the 125 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: kind of things that I did prior. Now you're gonna 126 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: probably think i'm a little boogie because this first job 127 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 2: is an internship that I got when I was about 128 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: fifteen or sixteen. But it was because my grandfather had 129 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: connections in Philly. And the first job that I had, 130 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: like the first official job, was in Councilwoman Donnery Miller's 131 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: office in Philly, and it was a summer internship and 132 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: it was it was really cool. It was a nice experience. 133 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: I didn't really do a whole lot of work, but 134 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: it was great to put on my resume. And I 135 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: was really big, I'm like, what am I gonna put 136 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: on my resume so I can make it look good 137 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: for college? But My first job in high school, like 138 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 2: where I actually had to do work study was at 139 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: jet Rock bar and grill and terminal f at the 140 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Airport. And that job was so awesome because it 141 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: was just fun because it was like I was seventeen, 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 2: I was making money. I used to get tips. But girl, 143 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: I also done met a couple of celebrities up in there, 144 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: because you know the airport, they always have levels coming through. 145 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: Let me tell you who I to meet, girl, Oh 146 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: who did unique? I met Chaka Khan. Shaka Khan came 147 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: through the airport. Chaka Khan VICKI whinings, Yes, she came through. 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 2: I actually still have the card that she gave me 149 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: when she came through. But girl, let me tell you how. 150 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: John Stamos came up into the work to my job, girl, 151 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: And I remember seeing him. He is so he is 152 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: so handsome the person too, like, oh, I bet it 153 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: was just so he was so attractive. I remember being like, 154 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 2: you're that guy, and he was like, yeah, I am. 155 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: Any sign I received, I was like, that's uncle what 156 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: was it? Uncle Jesse on full House? 157 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: Right? 158 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: So yeah, girl, that that is my first fit like 159 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: the real job. 160 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: So okay, I mean your job experiences definitely are like 161 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: way more interesting and entertaining than mine. So what were 162 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: some of the the lesson that you learned from those jobs? 163 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: I could imagine working in politics, that was you could 164 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: probably you know, you were probably a fly on the 165 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: wall for a lot of interesting things, or able to 166 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: observe a lot of things. And so what were some 167 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: of the lessons that you learned from those first jobs. 168 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: That's a really good question, dom And let me just say, 169 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: if I could go back in time and work in 170 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: basket ribements, I sure would have because I loved the 171 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 2: besket viblems. I would have worked the McDonald's too, Like 172 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: that was so good. Oh, I just know it was. 173 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: I just know what thirty one flavors. Yes, you know 174 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: what I think. Working at city hall, for me, that 175 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 2: just gave me. I was a business major in high school, 176 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: so for me being business minded, I just felt a 177 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: sense of pride, like going to city hall every day. 178 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: My grandmother also worked in city hall, So I just 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: I feel like it brought out a certain level of 180 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: maturity in me. I was very mindful of like the 181 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: way that I dressed. I was like, oh, I got 182 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: a big girl job. I get to dress up a 183 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: little bit and go into these meetings, and so I 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: think it just it gave me a sense of self worth. 185 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: I guess you could say, I don't think it's always 186 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: good to tie your work to a job, but I 187 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: think at that young age, there was a sense of 188 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: pride that was instilled in me and the work that 189 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: I did and being in that environment. Also seeing these 190 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: black professionals in that setting, you know, and seeing how 191 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 2: things were running the office. I think it just gave 192 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: me a great appreciation to work around people that look 193 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: like me as well and to see them in positions 194 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: of power, you know. So those I wouldn't say necessarily skills, 195 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: but it gave me a lot of self esteem and 196 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: confidence about what's possible. As far as jet rock, bar 197 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: and grill. The thing that I learned there was I 198 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: mean it was very fast paced, you know, you got 199 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: to busy along line. I think customer service was something 200 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: that I learned. I think also being able to build 201 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 2: a positive rapport with my colleagues, Like you always want 202 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 2: to make sure when you're serving like you are and 203 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: good with the cook so that the meals can come 204 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: up quickly, so that you can get your tips and 205 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: you can serve your customers well. So I think just 206 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: no them menu, knowing how to communicate with people, knowing 207 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 2: how to serve. I think those were all some of 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: the skills that I learned there. Yeah, I think those. 209 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Are great skills, right, because well, I don't want to 210 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: speak for you, but I think about how some of 211 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: those skills transferred over to what you do now and 212 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: what you've done along the way. So I'll let you 213 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: speak to that, but I'll come back. 214 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 2: And talk about. 215 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: My work at Baskin Robbins and some of the skills 216 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: that I learned there. Right, So, I mean you're working 217 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: when you're working in the food industry, like you mentioned, 218 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: it's like a lot of customer service, right, and really 219 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how can you please the customer 220 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: who comes in right exactly. And you know, folks may say, oh, 221 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: working at an ice cream store like that should be 222 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: pretty easy in terms of managing customer service, but not 223 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: necessarily when, like I think, because the other piece of 224 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: working at Baskin Robbins is they made these delicious ice 225 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: cream cakes. And with the ice cream cakes, you know, 226 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: if someone came in and placed in order for especially 227 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: made cake, then chances are that's because that's what they 228 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: specifically wanted, right, they wanted that particular cake flavor with 229 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: that particular ice cream flavor, and it means something to 230 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 1: them or the person that they're giving it to. And 231 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: so if you are not delivering that right, like, if 232 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: you're not giving them the deliverable that they asked for 233 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: in the time frame that they asked, in the manner 234 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: in which they wanted, then you're doing them a disservice, right, 235 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: And then you have to manage their response. And so 236 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: at seventeen eighteen years old, I'm learning how to listen 237 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: to what people are saying that they want and making 238 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: sure that we are able to deliver on what it 239 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: is they say that they want. And even when you're 240 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: working in even when we're a customers coming in and 241 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: they want a three scoop Sunday and it's. 242 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 2: Just bringing back memories. 243 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: Now I'm like talking about the products, right, you know, 244 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: they want they want a three scoop Sunday. Like if 245 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: you're working in there with another you have another employee 246 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: with you, and there's multiple customers in there, you have 247 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: to be able to tune out then what's being said 248 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: around you enough to be able to hear what the 249 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: customer in front of you wants, but not so much 250 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: that you have you are losing your environmental awareness, right, 251 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: because if you're so focused on the customer in front 252 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: of you and you aren't paying attention to now you 253 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,719 Speaker 1: have ten customers that are in this small store and 254 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: they're all waiting, you have to pay attention to. Okay, wait, 255 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: I can't spend as much time with this one customer 256 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: when I see that there are ten other folks waiting 257 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: and I know that they want they're ready for their 258 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: ice cream, right, Yeah, So it's about time management, it's 259 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: about task management. So you're learning all of these skills 260 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: in what it may initially seem as a quote unquote 261 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: easy job. 262 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: That is a really good point. You didn't already listen 263 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: to some amazing transferable skills. I was thinking about that too, 264 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: Like you know, sometimes when someone comes into order and 265 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: they're like like me, and sometimes it was like I 266 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: don't know what I want, and they're like, oh damn. 267 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 2: You know, it's stood in my line with all these 268 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: people mind you, and you don't know what you want, 269 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: you have to try to taxtfully usher them into something 270 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: that they might like, but still be mindful of other 271 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 2: people on mind so so many great skills. Like one 272 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: of the things that I've learned and had all these jobs, 273 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: I've had so many odd jobs in my life. I 274 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: have learned one that if I'm in this job, like, 275 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to do the best that I can do, 276 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: no matter what role I have in life. Like I'll 277 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: give an example. I have my master's degree and I 278 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: left a job that was a very bad experience. And 279 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: I remember working at a shuttle place. It was called 280 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: bay Runner Shuttle in Solisbury, Maryland, and so I'm helping 281 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: people book shuttles for the airport, sometimes having to go 282 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 2: on rides orchestrating the calendar. And even though I was 283 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 2: working with high school and college students and I had 284 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: a master's degree, I showed up and I was like, 285 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: I'm going to do the best that I can do, 286 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: because one, I'm developing myself as far as my customer 287 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: service skills, my time management, working with other people. And 288 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: why why if you have to do the job, why 289 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: show up and be crusty and think about it like 290 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: if you got to be there anybody, you might as 291 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: well make the most out of it, right, So exactly, yeah, 292 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: there's so much value on transferable skills for sure. 293 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Exactly like that, as you were saying that, thinking about 294 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: jobs that you're taking, like kind of like those in 295 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the meantime, like I think about For me in college, 296 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: I worked at a boutique hotel in the French Quarter 297 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and it was you know, And I 298 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: think the thing is, as I'm reflecting on this, like 299 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: I picked jobs that would allow me the flexibility to 300 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: still be able to focus on school. So I know that, 301 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: like I could have worked at like a Marriott or 302 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: Hilton or one of the bigger brands, but working at 303 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: those places would not have given me the time to 304 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: also be able to work on focus on school. 305 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 2: So the boutique hotel. 306 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: That I worked at, I remember the general manager who 307 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: hired me. One of the things that he said, the 308 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: reason that he hired me was because I was in school, okay, 309 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: and he knew for him, he knew that he'd like that. 310 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: He didn't want to see me in this position for 311 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: the rest of my life, right, he wanted to make 312 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: sure that I took this job, that I focused on school, 313 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: got the skills that I needed and kept moving and growing. Right, 314 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: and so, now, in all honesty, I'll say the shift 315 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: that I worked was one that because it was a 316 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: smaller hotel, it allowed me the flexibility to do homework 317 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: when things were quiet, right and so, and because the 318 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: manager was supportive of me being in school, I had 319 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: some flexibility in if I needed to take off because 320 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: I had a school related thing, he would support that. Right. 321 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: But I think the thing so I learned like that 322 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: immediate piece of like it's important to have of good managers, 323 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: good support around you. Right. So, even though that's not 324 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: necessarily a skill, that was something that I learned. 325 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 2: A piece that I. 326 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: Learned about what do I need when I move into 327 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: the next job, right, Like how important it is to 328 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: have a manager who is supported or supervisor whoever's above you, 329 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 1: to be supportive of you and what your dreams and 330 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: goals are. 331 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: You learned a valuable life lesson that some people don't 332 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: learn until they get into corporate or get into other positions, 333 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,439 Speaker 2: because your manager really makes your job. Like if you 334 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 2: go into an amazing job, you get money, it's like, 335 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 2: oh everything's great here, but you have a sucking manager 336 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: that doesn't support you. It really ruins the whole experience. 337 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 2: So I think you learned a valuable life lesson that 338 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: can stick with us, you know, forever. I will say, 339 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 2: I think that making your job work for you is 340 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: so key. I remember when I was working at Asana 341 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 2: and I was able to I work there for four years, 342 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 2: and I was able to grow in the company, and 343 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: I had a chance because it was my job. I 344 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 2: had a chance to and they were so small. I 345 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: had a chance to test out different aspects of myself 346 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: but also different roles within the company. And I remember 347 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: when I left the company last year, I remember thinking 348 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 2: about all that I had done there, and I was like, wait, 349 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: I was doing all this for this company. I can 350 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: do that same thing for my business. I was consulting 351 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: and manage a book of fifty some five fortune five 352 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: hundred companies like IBM and Facebook. I'm like, I could 353 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: do my own consulting business and do that. So I 354 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: think we have to also understand that what you do 355 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: in your day job. Of course, if there's no conflict 356 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 2: of ventuests and you're not you know stuff, yeah, you 357 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: got to think, yeah, don't do no illegal shit, y'all. 358 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: But like whatever it is that you're doing at your company, 359 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 2: you can also do that for yourself. So don't ever 360 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: get so caught up in the role that you have 361 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: in the job that you think, oh, I can only 362 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 2: do it within these four walls or within this zoom 363 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: screen or whatever you might be working. But like, realize 364 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 2: you can do it for yourself as well. 365 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: I would also say too, to add to that is 366 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: that even if it's something that you don't really want 367 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: to do, but you know what you're in the meantime, 368 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: you still show up as. 369 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: Your fullest self because you never know who will come 370 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 2: through those. 371 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: Doors, right and you know, virtual, physical, whatever, you know. 372 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like the people that you 373 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: may come in contact with, you never know how those 374 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: people may be useful, helpful, influential to you down the line. Right, 375 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: Like I think about some of the folks that came 376 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: through the hotel, right, Like it was like sports team owners, 377 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: winery and vineyard owners, like people that were doing you know, 378 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: that had businesses and we're doing things right, had network 379 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: that you could be connected to, you know, and and 380 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: so like I even remember as I was leaving that 381 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: job because I was graduating and moving to Georgia, for 382 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: graduate school. I remember them telling me, you know, the 383 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: administration there, telling me that if I wanted to get 384 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: another hotel job when I moved to Georgia, to let 385 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: them know and they would make sure, you know, even 386 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: though it wasn't a big chain hotel, because they because 387 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: of the industry, they knew folks, right, and they knew 388 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: the quality of my work. Even though I knew like 389 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: working in the hotel was not my career, right, they 390 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: knew the quality of my work, and they were gonna 391 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: be willing to help me get connected in my on 392 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: my next staff, in my journey. 393 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: So powerful. So what you're doing today can actually be 394 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: used in your dream, dream job down the line. So 395 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: keep hustling, all right. 396 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: So thank you all for listening to us today, joining 397 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: us in the green room. Know that you can find 398 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:18,160 Speaker 1: us here every Friday one thirty pm Pacific time four 399 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: thirty pm Easter Time. 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