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Speaker 2: Er. What's up, guys, Welcome in to our first offseason

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Speaker 2: edition of Chargers Weekly. We're powered by Microsoft Surface as always,

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Speaker 2: joined by Matt money Smith. So much to get into.

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Speaker 2: Ask for some of your questions last night, got a

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Speaker 2: ton of them, so we will get to those shortly.

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Speaker 2: But Maddy, I want to start with this maybe the

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Speaker 2: most surreal twenty four hours in football history when you

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Speaker 2: think about the legendary coaches who have all parted ways

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Speaker 2: or retired here in the last twenty four hours. Pete

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Speaker 2: Then Nick Saban seemed like ada left field for most

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Speaker 2: that Bill Belichick has parted ways with the Patriots. I

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Speaker 2: just watched Robert Craft and Bill Belichick at the podium.

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Speaker 2: A very surreal twenty four hours. What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Well, the saving thing I ended up getting word at

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Speaker 1: So that one didn't quite catch me off guard. I

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Speaker 1: there was momentum moving in that direction after they missed

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Speaker 1: this split was coming. We had been hearing about it

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Speaker 1: about Bill Belichick and Robert Crabitz. Certainly, Yeah, look, it's

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Speaker 1: a sad day, I think. I don't think that's misconstruing

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Speaker 1: how a lot of people would would feel. There is

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Speaker 1: to New England. The Chargers will visit New England to

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Speaker 1: If it's Trot Mayo, if it's Mike Vrabel, whomever's going

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Speaker 1: And people don't like change. They're reticent to it. And

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Speaker 1: certainly there is a huge shift in the National Football

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Speaker 2: So Pete made it seem like he's as energetic as

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's gonna happen, if that's gonna be

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Speaker 2: it seems like Bill wants to coach and if you

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Speaker 2: I think this is the right year to look at

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Speaker 2: some of these candidates. Money. You know, it's been Harball, Harball, Harball,

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Speaker 1: You can't go I'm gonna move Rabel aside in that

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Speaker 1: Since twenty thirteen, think about that ten years you have

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Speaker 2: Quick note on Rabel before I get into Belichick. Michael

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Speaker 2: Rabel has the same agent as Bill Belichick, So Rabel

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Speaker 2: You know, Vrabel is the top of the line for everybody,

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Speaker 2: The thing about Belichick money that I think aligns with

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Speaker 2: he's going to have his choice of multiple jobs that

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Speaker 1: Just is you almost wonder because he and Mayo were

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Speaker 1: That that he wants his good friend and his former

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Speaker 1: quirky guy. He just is. But I think what the

434
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Speaker 1: last three years have shown everybody and have changed from

435
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Speaker 1: a number of teams saying I didn't want to bring

436
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Speaker 1: him in to interview him. I have no interest. We're

437
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Speaker 1: not touching that guy. I think it's important now that

438
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Speaker 1: we've been able to distance ourselves from what happened in

439
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Speaker 1: San Francisco. I think a lot of people recognize that

440
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: Trent Balkey might be a tough guy to get along with.

441
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: That it's understandable that those two personalities clash and it

442
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: was just not going to work. And for whatever reason,

443
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: Jed York picked Trent over Jim and very similar to

444
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: Amy Strunk unthinkably picking Carthon over Verrabel. These things happen.

445
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: So I think the distance from that has now made

446
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: the NFL circles recognize we're not putting that on Harbaugh's

447
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: That's a personality conflict from two strong willed guys, one

448
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: that very few people can get along with. So there's that.

449
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: And I also think what he's been able to do

450
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: at Michigan, you know, after losing to Ohio State year

451
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: after year, cracking that coade, There's something to be said

452
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: about a coach that is able to Okay, what did

453
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 1: we do wrong? Why did it go wrong? How do

454
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: I fix it? What do I need to do to

455
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: fix this problem? And I think that's something that plagued

456
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: the Stally era. Why can I not get this defense right?

457
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Speaker 1: What do I need to do? Do I need to

458
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: relinquish play calling duties? Do I need to think about

459
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 1: a different scheme? Do we need to play a different way. No,

460
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna play my scheme. I'm gonna call the plays,

461
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna bring in J. C. Jackson, Eric Kendricks,

462
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: Austin John and that's how we're gonna fix it. And

463
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference, right. Jim Harbar brought in

464
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: different coordinators. He swapped out court, you know, he swapped

465
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Speaker 1: the guy from Baltimore, sending McDonald out, bringing another guy

466
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Speaker 1: in from John and like, we need to play Baltimore's

467
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: style defense here. And they were like, we need to

468
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: play this style of defense in Baltimore. Like it's just

469
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 1: he's that good. He's that good at it, at at coaching,

470
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Speaker 1: at playing, at play calling. And I think that's what

471
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: everybody recognized over these last three years Michigan. Michigan football

472
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: should not have been able to trade punches with the SEC.

473
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Speaker 1: Just we've heard it for a year, Chris, you went

474
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Speaker 1: to Northwestern, you know what the Big Ten was. Their

475
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: physical their plotters, they're slow, they'll grind it out, but

476
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: when they get into a game with the SEC, they're

477
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: going to get their doors blown off because they don't

478
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Speaker 1: have the athletes at wide receiver in the secondary and

479
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 1: it catches up with them. And that's why these playoffs

480
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: always ended the way they ended with Alabama or Georgia

481
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: or LSU, because you just couldn't compete. Well, he figured

482
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: it out. He figured out how to crack the code.

483
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna out physical you up front. I'm gonna make

484
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Speaker 1: life such a pain in the ass for you on

485
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Speaker 1: the lines that we're going to drag you into the

486
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Speaker 1: deep and we're going to pull you under in the

487
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And he made it work. And I think

488
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: some of those plays that you saw, some of those

489
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Speaker 1: run plays where these guys are ripping off on unbalanced lines,

490
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: fifty sixty yard runs, it's like there it is. I

491
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: remember that. I remember seeing that in San Francisco. I

492
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: remember seeing that in Stanford. He's done it again, and

493
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Speaker 1: so that I think has brought a lot of it.

494
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Speaker 1: Just speaking specifically to what you said about Jim Harbaugh,

495
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Speaker 1: I think that's why three years ago we were having

496
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 1: a much different conversation than we are today, because he

497
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Speaker 1: did it again. And it's just it's a minder of

498
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: what this guy has been able to do every stop

499
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: that he's made.

500
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Speaker 2: It's good context, all right, Uh, just win Herbert our guy.

501
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: Uh the he said, well, I find true love.

502
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

503
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Speaker 2: We can't answer that. If not, the question should come

504
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 2: first GM then coach or coach then GM. Or is

505
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: it fair to fantasize about a Mike Rabel coaching hire

506
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: in lieu of Harball unavailability? Take your pick money Frable

507
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Speaker 2: or Harball?

508
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, it's that. To me, that's either

509
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: or I'm good with either. I'm good with a lot

510
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 1: of these coaching candidates. You know, with the Pete Carroll

511
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: and the way that he approached his press conference by

512
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: Sam freaking chucked, and that he still wants to you,

513
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: you can tell he's not happy. He did not want

514
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Speaker 1: to be kicked upstairs. But to me, that appears and

515
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: and look it's Rable to the Patriots. To me, that's

516
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's going to get a head coaching job. We

517
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Speaker 1: want him to come back to Seattle. We want dan

518
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Speaker 1: Quinn back here. That's what it feels like. And that

519
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,959
Speaker 1: that's what it feels like. It's like you're not all

520
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: of you are not getting dan Quinn. We are And

521
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: I think with the Belichick departure, it feels like Robert

522
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Kraft is saying none of you are getting verable. We

523
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: are that this is our next coach for the next

524
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Speaker 1: twenty years, like we had with Belichick for the next seventeen,

525
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: like we had with Pete Carroll. To me, that's what

526
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: this is, right, So you know, I think I feel

527
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Speaker 1: like any of those candidates do what we want to see,

528
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: that they have what we want to see be accomplished,

529
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: a resume, a culture of winning, the ability to hold

530
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: players accountable and not have them roll their eyes at

531
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: you when because each of them have exactly what a

532
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: head coach needs to have in order to get through

533
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: to multi million dollar earning individuals who do something that

534
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: points zero zero zero zero zero zero zero zero one

535
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 1: percent of the population can do. Mike Rabel did it

536
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: and won Super Bowls. Harbaugh did it for fourteen years

537
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: as a quarterback and one of the toughest quarterbacks in

538
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the league that would take a beating in order to

539
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: get wins, and then he also won at every level.

540
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, of course, six super Bowls speak for themselves.

541
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Speaker 1: So I think any of those individuals can walk into

542
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: a room and like I said, and I think Keenan

543
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 1: even said it right when he was asked. He said accountability, winning,

544
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: Like they need someone that they look at and can

545
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: say that's a winner. It's right there on his resume,

546
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: that's a winner. So for me, Vrabel And just to

547
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: answer the question about head coach, GMGM head coach, I

548
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: think it depends who the person is. But if it's

549
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: any of those three, I would guess that it's simultaneous

550
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: that it's Jim Harbaugh. And you know, the name that

551
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: tends to make sense is Joe Hortiz because he's been

552
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: with his brother for twenty years, and John would not

553
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: be able to work with this guy for twenty years

554
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: if he would say, yeah, Jim, you're fine, this guy's awesome.

555
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: You're going to get along great. So when you start

556
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: lining things like that up, you know, in terms of

557
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: who would you pair with Rabel, who was you? I

558
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: think that's what you'll see. It's someone that comes in simultaneously. Yeah.

559
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: It kind of reminds me like when when Shanahan and

560
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: John Lynch came into San Francisco together, right like just

561
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: the hey, we're gonna work together, right, this is gonna

562
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: be like.

563
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: This, said John Schneider. Pete Carroll. You know that's Ziegler

564
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: and you know, woul Ziegler come with Belichick since he's

565
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: been let go by the you know, by the Raiders.

566
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: So like something like that where you would have this

567
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: pairing that would arrive. They're too big, those personalities, those

568
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: head coaches are too big to be hired by a

569
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: first time general manager, you know. So that's why they

570
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: would have to come in together. They'd have to be

571
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: comfortable with that work in relationship. And and I think

572
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: it's important for the coach to recognize it's too much.

573
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: It is too much to take on the construction of

574
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: a team through the draft, through college scouting, and also

575
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: be a head coach in the NFL. So let's find

576
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Speaker 1: someone that can take all that off your plate in

577
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: the offseason and can run the network of scouts and

578
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: run the network of pro personnel and college and all

579
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: of that and and that way, when you get into

580
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: the season, you guys can now work together and you

581
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: can tell you can run the show. And now you're

582
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: bringing players in every single week for workouts and trying

583
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 1: to sign them and no, let's get rid of this

584
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: guy and let's put him on the practice squad. And

585
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: those are your your calls, and that's what you need,

586
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: You need to find that harmony with the general manager

587
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: and a head coach. And I think that's how it

588
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: would have to work for any of those three.

589
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: Think of these like just the big three that we've

590
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 2: talked about. Harrball, Vrabel and Belichick. Vrabel and Harball are like,

591
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: all right, coach in the future, maybe for a long

592
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: long time here, and you know, you want to pair

593
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 2: a franchise quarterback with somebody who you expect to be

594
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: there for a while. With Belichick, I feel like it's

595
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: like a three year plan, Like he wants to get

596
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: that Shula record, he wants to probably go somewhere where

597
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: he knows he can get it and win a Super

598
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: Bowl within a three year window. And you know, you

599
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: hear you know, I read Bill Parcells's biography, you know,

600
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: years ago, and I remember just the chase that Arthur

601
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: Blank had to get Parcels and it didn't work out,

602
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: and you just you kind of read the tea leaves.

603
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's what Arthur Blank is thinking about, Like

604
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 2: maybe we're going to try to bring Bill quarterback. They

605
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: have a pretty good roster and you can maximize Vialent.

606
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: Right that lines up to me, that's the one that

607
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. They need a quarterback. They have

608
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: the eighth pick. Could they trade up and get Jaden

609
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: Daniels if New England isn't going to take him at

610
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Speaker 1: number three, or could they trade for a current quarterback? Yes,

611
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Speaker 1: if maybe someone wants to what's that? Maybe Justin Field

612
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Speaker 1: not Justin Fields. I don't know. I don't know if

613
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Bill would have the patience with Justin Fields, a guy

614
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: that took one hundred and forty sacks in three years

615
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: and hasn't figured it out in three years. You know,

616
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: to me, that would frustrate the hell out of Bill Belichick.

617
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: Guy taking sacks to take you out a field goal range,

618
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: to take you out of goal to go situations on

619
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: first down like that. There's just two his His resume

620
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: is littered with those, and I I cannot imagine him

621
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Speaker 1: one that. To me, that's just I don't think Justin

622
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: Field's I could be wrong, but I cannot imagine him

623
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Speaker 1: being a Bill Belichick kind of guy. So with the ag.

624
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: Remember that Money Night game where Justin Fields ran all

625
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: over Foxborough last year and Bill had no answer for him.

626
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: And I know that he may not be quarterback, but

627
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: Cam Newton he came in there, right.

628
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: No, it's that's a great point. That's an absolutely great point.

629
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Speaker 1: I just man, I perhaps I'm just not a Justin

630
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Fields guy. I think I am. I am, so I

631
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: can't just defredge stray for a second. I don't know

632
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: how they could possibly think that keeping Justin Fields at

633
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: the cost of forty million bucks per year, because that's

634
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the bottom that that will be the

635
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: bottom of what he wants to earn. Considering the Daniel

636
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: Jones contract, How keeping him for forty million bucks a

637
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: year makes more sense and Caleb Williams for thirty six

638
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: million dollars over five. Yeah, you can't convince me of that.

639
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, and I appreciate the condescending tone and talking

640
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: down to people on Twitter of you watched every single

641
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: snap from the twenty twenty three season and you are

642
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: utterly convinced that Justin Fields is the Bears quarterback of

643
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: the future. But you can stick it because you clearly

644
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: didn't watch the sacks. And that's and that's the one

645
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: thing that people overlook.

646
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 2: Well, they fired the entire offensive staff, So I don't

647
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: know what that I don't know what that means. Money

648
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: like if like I almost feel like if you have

649
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: the number one overall pick and Caleb Williams is sitting

650
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: there and you can reset your quarterback and you already

651
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: have your pick in the top ten that you can

652
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: either trade back or use for a wide SIP player, Like,

653
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: you know, why not just start all over because it

654
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: now it feels like abra flus is going to be there.

655
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: It may or may not be justin fields, and it's

656
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: going to be a new coaching staff. And if it's

657
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback and it doesn't quite work out his

658
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: first year, then I don't know you. Then you're not

659
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,479
Speaker 2: really in lockstep. Everything's just kind of jumbled, you know.

660
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: So that's what I don't understand what the Bears are

661
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: doing right now.

662
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, you clean house because you're going to

663
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: be able to attract someone to come and coach Caleb Williams.

664
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: I can promise you that, especially with the ninth pick overall,

665
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 1: you're going to get a great tackle or a great

666
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: receiver to pair with Dj Moore and Cole Comet and

667
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: now you can get a big three. Your running backs

668
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: have been great, the offensive line has slowly gotten better.

669
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: It's still not anyway, we don't need to get too

670
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: deep into what they're going to do. But I would

671
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,240
Speaker 1: be floored if they did not take Caleb Williams number one. Overall,

672
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: I would be absolutely floored. I don't just to put

673
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: it in context as someone that lived his first seventeen

674
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: years there, but Liz lived the last thirty whatever three here.

675
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: There has been such a dearth of quarterback play in

676
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: that city that because Justin Fields was sort of good

677
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: and running the football and had a couple of good games,

678
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: they feel like they been watching, you know, Tom Brady,

679
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: like they like, oh my gosh, these last three years

680
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: we've had Randall Cunningham here, this has been incredible, and

681
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: it's like, no, not really, Yeah that the guy's the

682
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: guys does not score points. He looked at the number

683
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: of three hundred yard passing games he's had, look at

684
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: the number of touchdowns he's thrown. Look at the number

685
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,479
Speaker 1: of sacks that he's taken. Yeah, that ain't that. Ain't

686
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: it man, That's it's just it's it because of the

687
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: context and the lens through which you're watching it, Yeah,

688
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: you think it is. And you're terrified to let that

689
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: go because of all of the failures of the past,

690
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 1: Rick Meyer and and and Mitch Drubisky and Rex Grossman

691
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: and Kyle Orton and Caleb Haney and all of those,

692
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: and Moses Moreno and Shane Matthews and Eric Kreme.

693
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: Jay Cutler was like Joe Montana.

694
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler was was the best quarterback they've had. Now, look,

695
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon got a raw deal, right, he got his

696
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: freaking shoulder exploded the year after they won the Super

697
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: Bowl and he was never the same quarterback. But like

698
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: Jake Kuller, was their best quarterback since the nineteen forties.

699
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: That's why, literally since Sid Luckman in the nineteen forties.

700
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: So that's way too much of a departure. My apologies.

701
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: That was like a five minute tangent. So sorry, I

702
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: don't know how we got on that.

703
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: But so we were talking about where Belichick could go and

704
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: a Fields gets traded.

705
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: All right, all right, justin Field, yell, and there was

706
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: Belichick to Atlanta. I could see, you.

707
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 2: Know what, But there's there's so many things that could

708
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: affect the Chargers, you know, indirectly with this draft and

709
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 2: what the what the Bears could do, and you know,

710
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: we can get into the draft, maybe another time. I

711
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: want to buzz through some of these questions because we

712
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: have a lot of them. UH ninety three Chargers Son

713
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 2: Since Herbert's last interview, two parter with ownership, consider Herbert's

714
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: thoughts on the head coach and if so respect on

715
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: his viewpoint, could that sway from a coach they originally

716
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: had as their number one. I don't know if if

717
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 2: Justin would have this way to pick the coach at

718
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 2: this point, I think that I think we all realized

719
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: it is that it has to be an experienced coach

720
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 2: with with any authoritative mindset. I don't I don't know.

721
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: I just I don't know if you had the quarterback

722
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: pick the coach the one.

723
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Speaker 1: The one thing I would that I would you never

724
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: want to ask who they want because then if you

725
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: don't select that person, they're all but hurt. So you

726
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. The one thing I would

727
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: do is if you hired a defensive coach, if you

728
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: hired Dan Quinn, or you hired Jim Schwartz, or you

729
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: hired Mike Vrabel, or you hired Bill Belichick, I would

730
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: ask Justin do you want to keep Kellen Moore? And

731
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: if you do, let's sit you down with with coach Rabel,

732
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: with coach Belichick, with coach Schwartz, with coach Quinn, and

733
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: let's have that conversation before they bring in their guy.

734
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: I'd like you because imagine if they had been able

735
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: to do that. Hey, Justin, let's sit you down with

736
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 1: coach Staley. I want you. Do you want to keep

737
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: Shane because if you do, he doesn't want to, But

738
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: I want to give you the opportunity to sell him

739
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: on why he should keep Shame And I think that's

740
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: hard to do after a rookie season and a twenty

741
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: two year old, But now that we know what Herbert

742
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: is and what he can be, that's what I would want.

743
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: Do you want to keep Kellen? If you do, let's

744
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: have this meeting because Kellen wants to stay. Coach Rabel's

745
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: not sure about it. He wants to bring in Arthur Smith.

746
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: He can bring him back. They had two incredibly successful

747
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: years in Tennessee, going to the Conference championship one year

748
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: that he was there and being a top five offense

749
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: another year that he was the OC. So that's what

750
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: he wants to do. He wants to bring Arthur Smith in,

751
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: but he also wants to hear you talk to him

752
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: about Kellen Moore. That's what I would probably do.

753
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see here, Laois. If I got that wrong,

754
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: I apologize. Can you convince the NFL to send the

755
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: charges back to Europe for a game twenty eighteen too long? Await?

756
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: I think? I think our buddy Tye sent me a

757
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: text that Munich may be in play because they play the.

758
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: Now Carolina is the only is the only option the

759
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: other games of our that the four Vikings, Bears, Jags, Panthers,

760
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: So we do play the Panthers in Carolina, so that

761
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: would be the one. I looked at their home schedule

762
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: thinking of which because the way it works for people

763
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: that don't know is if you takeing a European game,

764
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: if you take a game in Europe, the NFL pays

765
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: out as a sellout your home game. So typically what

766
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 1: teams want to do is take an opponent that would

767
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: sell the fewest tickets to Europe, so they get paid

768
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: for a sellout at home. That's what they want to do.

769
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: So you have the thing, and it's very hard to

770
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: play a divisional game over there. That almost never happens.

771
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: So looking at their opponents, to me they play the

772
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: NFC East. They're not going to lose a Cowboys game

773
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: an Eagles game, you know at home. To me, what

774
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: it looked like was you have probably two prospects. Chargers

775
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: Bengals are the two that they would look at to

776
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,839
Speaker 1: drag over to Munich, and so I do think it's

777
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: it's possible. Now. The league may want the Chargers to

778
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: do the Brazil game because we're on the West coast

779
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: and it's just a straight shot south and they may

780
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: want to do the Brazil thing with the Chargers. So

781
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: that's the one thing that hasn't been announced because this

782
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: coming year it's I believe it is. Yeah, I believe

783
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: it is because I know a stadio, a Stadio Steca

784
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: is under construction, so they're not doing Mexico City, and

785
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: I feel we can figure it out right now. So Brazil,

786
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: the Brazil game.

787
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 2: I would be down for the Brazil game.

788
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: Yes, twenty twenty four, first ever NFL regular season, so yes,

789
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: So that's that may be the other op but in

790
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: terms of Europe that the only option would be Munich.

791
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: It's not one of the Lendon games this year because

792
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: we're not on their schedules.

793
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: Ewing Fight or Pilot money. Considering we don't have a

794
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 2: coach at GM, is it near impossible to do a

795
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: mock draft? Do you think whoever fills those positions would

796
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 2: have different priorities with the fifth pick personally, with so

797
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: many needs, I'm hopeful we trade down to get a

798
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: hall of picks. Love the work boys, appreciate you, E

799
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 2: Wing Fighter Pilot. I think he's right. I mean, like

800
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: whoever comes in is the GM has some tough decisions

801
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: to make, as you alluded to, and that could affect

802
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: who they draft. And there's obviously a lot of needs

803
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: on this roster, from tackle to a receiver, corner to

804
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: defensive tackle. So I think you do you have to

805
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: wait and see who the coach and GM are going

806
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: to be and see which decisions are made a free

807
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: agency to really dictate what you do at five, because

808
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: you do have a lot of options there well.

809
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: And also it's philosophy. You know, we knew that Tom

810
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: Tellesco's philosophy was sticking pick. He almost never moved up

811
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: and down the draft board. It happened once a good point,

812
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, in the entire time that we were here,

813
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: and that was to trade back into the first round

814
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: to get Kenneth Murray. Outside of that, he never moved.

815
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: So think about Bill Belichick, what did he do? He's

816
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: traded down his entire life. They constantly traded down and

817
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: acquired more and more picks. He has routinely done that.

818
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: So now you're talking about philosophy. Do we stick and pick?

819
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: Do we trade down? Do we find value in acquiring

820
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: more bites at the Apple at a lower number and

821
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: in a future draft? So that that will depend on

822
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: the general manager and what their philosophy is. Also, let's

823
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: just talk about head coaches. It's Ben Johnson, he may

824
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: say I want the toy, give me Malik Nighbors, I

825
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: want to take the top off this thing and get crazy.

826
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: And if it's Jim Harbaugh, he can say, we're going

827
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: to do intellectual brutality. I want Joe Walt, give me

828
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: the tackle. Now I got he and Rashaan Slater, let's

829
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: get after. So he's absolutely right and understand mock drafts

830
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: are what they are. It's just an exercise. It's fun

831
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: and people love them. And there's a reason why every

832
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: single day you could google NFL mock draft and there

833
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: will be new mock drafts there because they know you're

834
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: going to click on it, and they know you're gonna

835
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 1: get excited or upset over which player they mocked to

836
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: your team. So I know Nate Tice. I was listening

837
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: to him and Dane the other day and he had

838
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: mocked Joe Walt and he said the Charger fans have

839
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: viscerated him because they all want brock Bauers. He's like,

840
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: they are on a one track. They are on one

841
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,959
Speaker 1: track and they want brock Bauers. And I've tried to explain, look,

842
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: Joe Walton Rashaun Slater, you're gonna have the two best

843
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: tackles in the league. This is you set your team

844
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: for success for ten years moving forward with these two,

845
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: and they just don't want to hear it. So, you know,

846
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: and then you look at a lot of the other

847
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: mock drafts and I think the I can't remember his

848
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: name at AT is it Josh who's a at ESPN?

849
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: Their new person that Jordan replaced Todd mcshade. Jordan, Yeah,

850
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: he's got he's got Malik Neighbors. So, and I'm sure

851
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: people a lot more excited about that than a tackle.

852
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: So to me, there's it's one of three options. It's

853
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: the tackle, it's the wide receiver, or it's trade back.

854
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: And if you ask me what it's it's hard for

855
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: me to say which I would prefer. Part of me

856
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: would love that explosive element to this offense that it

857
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: has just lacked there. There has been zero explosiveness in

858
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: this offense for years now, and I would love to

859
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: see a playmaker like Malik Neighbors, or like Roma Dunza,

860
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: or like Marvin Harrison Junior. Because now you're starting to

861
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: hear it, and it could all be you know bs,

862
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: but you're starting to hear oh no, there are teams

863
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: that like Neighbors as the number one. There are teams

864
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: that like a donsays the number one. There are teams

865
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: that like Harrison as the number one. And that's very possible.

866
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: You know, the Cardinals may decide, we love Marvin Harrison,

867
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: but we love Mylik Neighbors just a little bit more,

868
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: you know. And that's so that's where the stick and

869
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: pick comes into play. You have no end. What if

870
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: you know, what if New England has a ton of

871
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: cap room and they signed Kirk Cousins and they're like,

872
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: you know what, we believe we can win with a

873
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: vet quarterback, we got the defense. Let's at number three,

874
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: take Marvin Harrison, and now we got our domin. You know,

875
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: we know we got a run game, our O line

876
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: is solid. Let's go sign a veteran quarterback with all

877
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: this this cap space we got and make a run

878
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: here these couple two, three years and get back to

879
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: where we believe we belong. So and then all of

880
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: a sudden, Jada Daniels sitting there at five, and you're like,

881
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: here we go, come on up.

882
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: Who wants on up?

883
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 1: Atlanta, Come get it, Come get it. We'll take the eight,

884
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: and we'll take your next year's one, this year's two,

885
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: and we are good.

886
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: That's the that's the beauty of having number five is

887
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: really you have the number two overall pick because I

888
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be Caleb some combination of Daniels and

889
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: Drake May going in the top five. Then you think

890
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison neighbors Dunes in the top ten. But just

891
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,720
Speaker 2: like the pedigree of wide receivers that have come from LSU,

892
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 2: when we're talking about Justin Jefferson and Odell Beckham and

893
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase and then Ohio State, it's like, you know.

894
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: Guys, Jarvis Landry and that's yeah, that's ridiculous.

895
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 2: Ohio State, Garrett Wilson and Smith and Jigbud most recently.

896
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: I mean, like you know that these guys just train

897
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: all pro wide receiver and to get one of those

898
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: guys in the fold, it's a shame because you drafted

899
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 2: one in the first round last year and you I

900
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: hope that Quentin can make a make a leap.

901
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: But but you know what, Chris, that's okay. Maybe maybe

902
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: Quentin's just not your one. You got him at twenty one.

903
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: Maybe Quentin's gonna be a really good two. And and

904
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: I would sign Josh Palmer. DJ was talking about this.

905
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: I would get him signed now because he you know,

906
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: if Mike and Keenan may be moving on. If they are,

907
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: I he's got to be able to stay healthy. I

908
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: know he's kind of dealt with some injury stuff, but

909
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: if he's healthy for sixteen for seventeen games, that dude's

910
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: gonna put up big numbers. He is a really good receiver.

911
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: And I would love to get him signed to a

912
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 1: lower number long term. You're not getting the the aj

913
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: Brown twenty million bucks a year. Let's see if we

914
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: can get you that seven to ten mil per get

915
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: you locked up and if you tell me you're moving

916
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: forward with pick, take your pick, you know, whichever one

917
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: you want. Neighbors Harrison, you know, or a doonesay as

918
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: you're one, Palmer is your two, Quinton is your three.

919
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: Now that's a very intriguing you know, Quinton is your

920
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: quick kidder yack guy, and Josh as you're keenan Allen

921
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: route runner third down, and now you've got your guy

922
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: that can take the top off. It's a pretty exciting

923
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: trio of receivers, no doubt.

924
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: All right, we get still got a ton of questions.

925
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: Let's try to go in like a minute on each

926
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 2: of these so we could try to get to guy.

927
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: It's possible. Thunder down under our guys. Great job, all

928
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: your Chris and money. Love that money fought the good

929
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: fight trying to make DJ the GM because he would

930
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: be awesome. Instead, maybe you can use your collective powers

931
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: of persuasion to arrange for the three Aussee guys to

932
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 2: read out a Chargers pick at the draft this year.

933
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 2: I would be down for that. And you know, if

934
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 2: I have to just say it here, guys, I want

935
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: you to make a selection for the Chargers in the

936
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four draft. I don't know who's gonna hear it,

937
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: but I hope that you can clip it off and

938
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: give it to somebody, you.

939
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: Know what, I will, I will reach out. I have

940
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: a very close friend that's involved in NFL AT in

941
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: the NFL International program, So let me find out who

942
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: makes those decisions, because I would assume they would love

943
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: to get something as far away as Australia.

944
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: First of all, First of all, the guys, these guys

945
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: are awesome, and they know they're Charges football like any boy,

946
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: and they're watching it off hours. I was, you know, gracious,

947
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 2: they were gracious to have me as a guest this

948
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: past year, and they love you and DJ and you know,

949
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 2: I think it's just so cool that you have Chargers

950
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: fans all around the world and for someone from Australia

951
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 2: they want to come to the States and be a

952
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: part of the draft. Let's make it happen.

953
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: No, I think, just send the camera there, you know,

954
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: have them set up the camera and make it right

955
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: there wherever they are, if they're in Melbourne, if they're

956
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: and you know, Sydney, wherever they're sitting up. Let's do

957
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: it do a little let's go timing may be a

958
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: little bit often just for the first part of their question.

959
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I hope they do. I don't know why you wouldn't

960
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: want to interview DJ to be your GM. Why would

961
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: you not want to sit with him for a couple

962
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: hours and talk to him about what you think went wrong,

963
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: what you think you should do better. He's we know

964
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 1: his acumen. You get to see it the guy. The

965
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: guy has a You can give him a report card.

966
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Every year he publishes his top fifty. He talks about

967
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: which players he likes when they are drafted, and how

968
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: the fit like. That's all your research. He is an

969
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: open book. He cannot hide from Oh this is the

970
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: way I felt about this player, or this is the

971
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: way I felt about that player. It's all there. You

972
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: can see all of his top fifties for the last

973
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: ten years and see how on it he was. I

974
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: think they will. I really do. I think I absolutely

975
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: think they will end up interviewing him to be the GM.

976
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: Now whether or not he would want to take the job.

977
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why they don't interview him. Perhaps he's already

978
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: conveyed to them that he's really happy with his current life,

979
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, as a media draft expert and being the

980
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: best in the business and getting paid a princely sum

981
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: from the NFL network to do it. That may be

982
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: the case, and maybe he's already shared that with them,

983
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: But if he hasn't, I think it'd be I mean,

984
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: why would you not want to lean on that resource.

985
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: He's incredibly smart and incredibly good at.

986
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: It and not hard to find. All right, Boltz draft

987
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: talk given at the organization blocked an interview requests for

988
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: Ryan Ficken. How does that affect how they discuss the

989
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: current staff for tension with head coaching candidates. I think

990
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: that's a great point. I think when you have an

991
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 2: asset like Ficken, you at least have to make sure

992
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 2: that he's not going anywhere and that the coach that's

993
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: coming in is aware that Ryan Ficken can stay on

994
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 2: the staff. And who would not want Ryan Ficken on

995
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: your staff for what he's done with this special teams

996
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 2: in the last couple of years.

997
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: And also it signals to me, just to add to that, really, Chris,

998
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: you said it all, but that you want to get

999
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: this done quick because you don't want to get him

1000
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: screwed out of a job. You want to make sure

1001
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: we're going to get our head coach done quickly, and Ryan,

1002
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We're going to let you. You're

1003
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: going to be part of some of these coaching searches

1004
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: and new staffs. You're not going to get shut out.

1005
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: But we expect to get this done quick and then

1006
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: we'll know whether or not this coach wants to keep you.

1007
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 1: We hope they do a couple more.

1008
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: What role do you guys think Toulee is going to

1009
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 2: have in the defense next year and how do you

1010
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: think he will develop? You want to go money, Yeah,

1011
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: he's starting. I don't I would like to believe they

1012
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 2: will be, but I don't believe that both Khalil Mack

1013
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 2: and Joey Bosa are going to be back. It's possible

1014
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 2: that neither are back. I'd love it if they were

1015
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: both back, and tu Lee is that third guy and

1016
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 2: you can rotate them like they were and have this

1017
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: dominant set of edge rushers that you can never take

1018
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,879
Speaker 2: a break in. Whichever one you double, the other one's

1019
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: gonna recavoc. But I just don't think that's reality. So

1020
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 2: to me, he'll end up being one of the two

1021
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: starting edge rushers. Next year, and I expect him to

1022
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 2: be great because he's already been great. We haven't really

1023
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: gotten into the you know, the Chargers have requested the

1024
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: interview several candidates as general manager and heych already and

1025
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 2: you know, I know we've been focused on the big names.

1026
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 2: But what like Ben Johnson, Uh, it was Raheem Morris

1027
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 2: one of the names.

1028
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris is one of them there here we go.

1029
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: So their requests are Steve Wilkes, who was a head

1030
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: coach in Arizona for a year and an interim and

1031
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: did a great job and care Rolina. He's now the

1032
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: d C in San Francisco. Ben Johnson we know about OC,

1033
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: and then Aaron Glenn the d C, both of them

1034
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: in Detroit. Todd Monkin, who's done great work with Lamar

1035
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: Jackson this year as the OC was at Georgia when

1036
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 1: they won the national championship. Dan Quinn, we know about

1037
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: Patrick Graham, the d C in UH in Las Vegas,

1038
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: was the d C in New York for a while.

1039
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 1: He's done a great job there developing talent. Raheem Morsh

1040
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: talked about Kellen Moore, Giftsmith, Brian Callahan OC and Leslie Frasier,

1041
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: the former d C, former head coach in Minnesota, former

1042
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: DC in Buffalo.

1043
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: Let me just say this. I think Raheem Morris is

1044
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: going to be an excellent head coach wherever he goes.

1045
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: And I know it seems a little too similar to

1046
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 2: what the Chargers did. It does three years ago get

1047
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 2: taken the defensive coordinator from the Rams. But I just

1048
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: think Raheem Morris is going to be an outstanding head

1049
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: coach when he gets his chance.

1050
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: I do too, And somebody who's got head coaching experience

1051
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: and was able to learn from, you know, maybe what

1052
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: went wrong when he, you know, got that job at

1053
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: such a young age and has been able to kind

1054
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: of figure that out out and reconcile sense.

1055
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: Dude, he was so young and he was on that

1056
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: he was on that that staff with Mike Shanahan, you

1057
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: know that picture that we see every year, like he was.

1058
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: He was part of that picture and part of it. It's

1059
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: a head coach. His name's gonna his headshot's gonna be

1060
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 2: up there too.

1061
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: Exactly.

1062
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: Do you think there's any coincidence that the Chargers are

1063
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 2: interviewing coaches from teams they play in twenty twenty four

1064
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: to get some insight. This is from Jacob McKinney. I

1065
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: like that question. I think that I do hurt.

1066
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: I think the answer is no, But I think it's

1067
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: a very you did your research it down tip of

1068
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: the cap. Yes, but but no, I do not think

1069
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: it is a fact gathering, uh session, for for what

1070
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Speaker 1: they might see the following year. There's seventeen games of

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00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: film that they'll be able to dissect to figure that out.

1072
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 2: Uh. Hey, breaking news though, high C wide receiver Marvard

1073
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior is entering the draft. How about that?

1074
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I'm just look number four, maybe number five,

1075
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe number three. Again, he's he's an incredible

1076
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: talent and he is.

1077
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Speaker 2: Going to go on the top five money anything else

1078
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: you want to hit on before we get out of here. Obviously,

1079
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: next week we'll probably have a lot more information and

1080
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: there'll probably be some other surprises around the league that

1081
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 2: could affect this team.

1082
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: I'd see. I just think, you know, we saw so

1083
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: much Harbaugh. I think it's important to remember there's we

1084
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 1: say it all the time. Yes, I would love for

1085
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: it to be Harbaugh. If it's not that there are

1086
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: other candidates that could do a very good job with

1087
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: this team. So if the head coach is already hired

1088
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,439
Speaker 1: by this time next week and it's not Harbaugh, then

1089
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, chances are they just felt

1090
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: better about a fit and the way the interview went

1091
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: and all that seems to be lining up to be

1092
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. But if that's not the case, if he

1093
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: decides he wants to live somewhere else, if he wants

1094
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: to have if the Raiders say you can take McCarthy

1095
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: with the thirteenth pick, come here, and we know those

1096
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: two have a very special bond, that may be part

1097
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: of his calculus is to what he wants moving forward

1098
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: that maybe they give him control of everything, and I

1099
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: don't think that would necessarily be wise, and that's something

1100
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: the Chargers aren't willing to do. That They would want

1101
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: to have him paired with somebody else that could do

1102
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: all the work in the offseason. So there are many

1103
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 1: things that could come up that could prevent him from

1104
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: being the head coach of the Chargers. And I think

1105
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: it's important to remember if he's not that there are

1106
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: some really other you know, there's some really good other

1107
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: candidates that could end up taking taking the reins and

1108
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: guiding this team to a super Bowl.

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00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: I think I alluded to it at the top, but

1110
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter did say, keep an eye on Wildcar weekend

1111
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 2: because there are some teams that are currently in the

1112
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 2: playoffs now that they know did Bill Belichick's available and

1113
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: Mike Rabel's available, and you know who knows to an

1114
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 2: extent with Jim Harball that they could replace their coach

1115
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: who's in the postseason right now, And he said that

1116
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 2: maybe there's a team that is out of the playoffs

1117
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: that is mulling that at this moment. So the one is.

1118
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, right, that's the big one. Yeah, Green Bay

1119
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: beats Dallas, That's that's the one.

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Speaker 2: I think that everything SEMs like you know, do you

1121
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: do you see some smoke in Philly?

1122
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. Nick. We know Nick. I love him,

1123
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: but he's a he's a different dude. He's he's a

1124
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: different dude. He's fiery, he's mouthye, and it works great

1125
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: when you're winning. When you're not, it can get it

1126
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: can get a little rough. So I think that's it'd

1127
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: be crazy for them to move on from him. They

1128
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: were ten in one, they were ten in one. Yes,

1129
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: you go through lulls and now if they lose to Tampa, okay,

1130
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: maybe that that conversation is that Howie is one that

1131
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: will move on, and he is. He moved on from

1132
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: Andy Reid. He you know that they they you know

1133
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: they Jeff Lurry recognized his mistake with Chip Kelly and

1134
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: was like, Howie, I'm sorry, Chip's gone. You're coming back.

1135
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: So like it's an organization that's very forward thinking like

1136
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: that that they are comfortable getting rid of somebody who

1137
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: clearly they probably shouldn't have an Andy Reid, but felt

1138
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: like the timing was right. And they've won a super

1139
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: Bowl since, so it worked out. They did not win

1140
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: a super Bowl with Andy, they won one without him

1141
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson. So I could see it just because

1142
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: of the way that they've operated in the past, so

1143
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: that those would be to me, those are the only two.

1144
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: You know, Cleveland is just the fancy's going to be

1145
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: the coach of the year, you know, Miami, Kansas City, Houston, Buffalo,

1146
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: the Green Bay, they're all Sean Avay, Detroit's, It's Dallas,

1147
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: and it's Philly would be the only two.

1148
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: Let me just stay in the state of Pennsylvania. Though,

1149
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: because Pittsburgh, I think Glazer had some potential, like, hey,

1150
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: Tomlin may be thinking about taking a year off or

1151
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 2: you know, so he's been under so much heat and

1152
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 2: he won ten games with three different starting quarterbacks. I

1153
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 2: don't know if he's sick of the heat or.

1154
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: It's just such a good fit for him, you know.

1155
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: I guess the one thing you think about where he's from,

1156
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: that that Washington if he decided, but they'd have to

1157
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: trade for him. They probably have to. You know, they're

1158
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: not giving up the number two overall pick, but maybe

1159
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: they send their second rounder, you know, this is the

1160
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: third pick of the second round or the yeah, the

1161
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: third pick of the second round to him. Yeah, you know,

1162
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: for Tomlin, that's a possibility and certainly would be in

1163
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: step with them trying to completely overhaul the feeling around

1164
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: that organization. But again, you're not going to hire someone

1165
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,959
Speaker 1: that's better than Mike Tomlin. The Titans are not going

1166
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: to hire someone that's better than Mike Vrabel. It's just

1167
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: not going to happen. So, you know, Seattle in New

1168
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: England are different because of the age and how long

1169
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: those coaches had been there, and sometimes, like Phil Jackson said,

1170
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: or Bill Parcells said it's Bill Walsh was one who

1171
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: said it. You know, ten years. Max cannot be there

1172
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: longer than that, And I think it was even less

1173
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: than that. It might have been six, So you know

1174
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 1: that's I'd be very surprised.

1175
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh man, it's been a week. It's been a

1176
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: week since the Chargers lost their final game of the year.

1177
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: We didn't even talk about the game. But it don't

1178
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: need too no need to. They have the fifth overall pick.

1179
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: We're moving on to the off season looking forward. Yeah,

1180
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: there's a lot to dig out of here in January,

1181
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: and once it does settles, Chargers will have a new

1182
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 2: coach in GM that's gonna do it for Rust. Appreciate

1183
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: all your questions for money. I'm Chris. This has been

1184
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:18,439
Speaker 2: charged a week.