1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin, I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin. It's 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: our first official off season week of our podcast, where 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: we're going to be bringing you content at a minimum 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: of once a week on Tuesdays. Every once in a 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: while we'll throw you an interview in there or a 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: little added bonus content. So make sure to hit subscribe 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: and follow wherever you're listening right now. 9 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Hey Dad, I've seen a lot of you this week. 10 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, we moved you into a new house. Jeff, 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 3: and I just need everyone to recognize how good you are. 12 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: I'm so proud of you at putting things together. We 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: put McKinley, your daughter, my granddaughter bed together. You said 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 3: this is going to take three hours, and we did 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: it with help in about forty five minutes. It was 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: breathtaking to watch you work. If I had been in 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: charge of putting that bed together, it would have taken 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 3: three days, and by the time it was done, it 19 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: would have looked more like a washing machine than it 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 3: would have a been. I want to know again, Jeff, 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: how do you know how to do all this? How 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: are you so good with your tools, And I'm gonna 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: ask one more time, are you am I really your dad? 24 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: Because you your dad should be Tim Allen, Tim mister 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: tool time from the toolman. Yeah, Tim, Yeah, Because I 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: stink it's flattered and you're great at this. I want 27 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 3: you to tell me again, how did you get so 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 3: good at this? 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 1: I'm flattered, but I mean it was out of necessity 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: because growing up I didn't We didn't really have anybody 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: in the house who could fix the thing, so I 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: kind of had to learn. Now I'm messing dad, But 33 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: to your credit, you came up here with a van 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: that my mom has for her furniture business where she 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: redoes vintage furniture. You brought the van up and loaded 36 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: it up four times from our old house to our 37 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: new house. Now we had had a moving van come before, 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: but as everybody knows, when you move, it's. 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 2: Like it's never done. It's never done. 40 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 1: And you made it a completed task because you had 41 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: made two runs to my house by yourself before I 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: had even gotten home from work. So your work ethic 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: is a huge reason why we're sitting here in this 44 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: new house. Now, my backdrop here behind me is not 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: studio ready. I mean, I've got my keyboard behind me, 46 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: I've got some boxes and stuff wrapped up. But pretty soon, Dad, 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: by the start of next regular season, we're gonna have 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: a brand new studio in the basement, and I'm really really. 49 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 2: Looking forward to it. 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: I already had a guy come out here and help 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: me put a design together. We're gonna put some walls 52 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: up in the basement to make it our own private area. 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna be great. 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking forward to it. I think you should 55 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: put Emily Kirkchen in charge of whatever it takes in 56 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: the house because watching her and her mom, Sherry work 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: was breathtaking to watch. We were out once moving furniture 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 3: and we said, all right, how much of the pantry 59 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: is going to be done by the time we get home. 60 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 3: We were gone for about an hour, and I guessed 61 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: eighty percent, and that was a compliment. When we got home, 62 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: the pantry was completely completely done and absolutely organized. You 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 3: see that the same way that I do. Right. 64 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: They are unbelievably hard working. In fact, yesterday Dad, both 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: of Emily's parents, myself and Emily, we put together two 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: bookshelves and Emily was like the director. She had the 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: directions and was handing screws and saying, all right, Dad, 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: you do this, All right, Jeff, you do this, and 69 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: was literally like, here's. 70 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: Exactly what you need. And she's working. 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Steps ahead and steps behind to make all the pieces fit. 72 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: It was incredible. 73 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: But the cool thing that about you being in town 74 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: for the move is we got to kind of kill 75 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: two birds with one stone. Not only did you help 76 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: me massively with our move to our new house, but 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: also we got to go to the ALS United mid 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: Atlantic luncheon that they have every single year two years ago, 79 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: in which you spoke at And for those who might 80 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: be new to the show, my dad's brother, my uncle Matt, 81 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: passed away from ALS in twenty twenty three, devastating loss 82 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: for the Kirkchen family. The pride of the Kirchens, the 83 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: one that kept us all glued together so tight, and 84 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: we miss him every single day. And so we got 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: to be there, and Dad, you got to introduce a 86 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: friend and former guest of the. 87 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: Show who was the featured speaker this year. 88 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: Right we Boog Shambi did a great job as the 89 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,559 Speaker 3: featured speaker. Boog is one of my best friends. Of course, 90 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: he lost one of his best friends Tim Sheehey to 91 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: ALS in two thousand and seven, and ever since then, 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: through Project Main Street Boog has raised an enormous amount 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: of money for people who need help. So it was 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: a great event in Philadelphia that was last Friday, and 95 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: then last Saturday, we had another event for the ALS 96 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: Association in Washington, DC and it was great. And Aaron Nola, 97 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: who was on our podcast last year, great Phillies pitcher, 98 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: he was the guest speaker and I introduced him Saturday night. 99 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: So we had a great ALS weekend, raised a ton 100 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: of money, which is so important. And Aaron Nola is 101 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: one of the best guys you'll ever meet. Jeff and 102 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: he did a great job with his speech. We really 103 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: had a good night. 104 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fantastic. 105 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: He has also a connection to the cause because he 106 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: too lost his uncle to ALS and has always been 107 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: committed in his baseball career to help give back to 108 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: that cause. And Dad, I'm wearing a jacket because it's 109 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: cold in the basement, but I'm wearing my end ALS 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: Sarah Lang's T shirt today underneath my little league jacket 111 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: because I just felt like it was fitting because we 112 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: had so much, so much great work with ALS across 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: the Eastern seaboard this weekend, so I felt it was 114 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: fitting to wear that shirt today now, Dad. This past week, 115 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: despite it being the offseason, it was a big week 116 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. The awards were announced every single day. 117 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: I love the way they do the rollout, by the way, 118 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I think it's so neat how they roll it out 119 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: one day at a time. 120 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: It really is cool. 121 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: Any surprises anything you want to talk about when it 122 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: comes to the awards, obviously were you know, a couple 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: of days after the awards, so everybody knows kind of 124 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: where everything fell, But what are your taken away? 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: I didn't see any real big surprises. I think the 126 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: Rookies of the Year were right, Nick Kurtz, Drake Baldwin, 127 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: Nick Kurtz, go back and look at that season, and 128 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 3: remember he was in college the year before, and he 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: comes out and throws up a season like that with 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: at a four homer game everything else. That kid is 131 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 3: really special. I think the managers were correct in Steven 132 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: Vote and Pat Murphy, and they both won last year. 133 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: I mean, this is just so odd that managers win 134 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: Managers of the Year two years in a row. Remember 135 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: Stephen Boats Guardians were fifteen and a half games out 136 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: of first place, and they came back to win the division. 137 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 3: No team has ever been that far back and come 138 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 3: back to win. He kept that team together. Pat Murphy 139 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: did similar things. Best record in baseball for the Brewers, 140 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 3: the cy Youngs. No surprise at all, Trek Skoubl although 141 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Garrett Crochet had such a great year for the Red Sox, 142 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: and of course Paul Skeins won unanimously. So did you 143 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: have any surprises in those first three? You know? 144 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: I have to say, I think Nick Kertz is absolutely 145 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: a stud. 146 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Exactly what you said, Dad. 147 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: His season was just unbelievable and then to throw up 148 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: a four homer game so exciting to watch. Exciting for 149 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: an Oakland team or I guess an athletics team that 150 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: needs some hope. Right. They're planning on moving to Las 151 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: Vegas soon, but they're going to build up on some 152 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: weapons and have a young team. And I love Nick 153 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: Kurtz this season. I love watching him and it's a 154 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: well deserved award. And I mean, can you take down 155 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: Tech Scoogle and Paul Skeins, My goodness, Skeens unbelievable season 156 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: and he had ten losses yeah, ten and ten was 157 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: his record. 158 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 3: Let's just hope that the Pirates are able to build 159 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: around him now because they've come out and said we're 160 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: not going to trade Paul Skins, nor should they. But 161 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: if they're going to keep him long term, they have 162 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: to build around him and give him more offense to 163 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: deal with and a better team around him, because you 164 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: can't have a generational pitcher like this and then just 165 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: let him be wasted as far as winning and losing 166 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: and going to the playoffs. So the last thing, Jeff, 167 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 3: of course, was the MVP shoheo tany one the fourth time, 168 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: so only Barry Bonds with seven now has more MVPs 169 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: than show Hey Otani, and this was another unanimous MVP. 170 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 3: You know. The big MVP vote, of course was Aaron 171 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: Judge over cal Raleigh in a very close vote. But Jeff, 172 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: my takeaway on that whole thing was, I was really 173 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: pleased that at the lack of anger out there from 174 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: all sorts of people. Okay, you know, if you're a 175 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 3: cal Raley fan, you have to wonder, how could he 176 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: not win the MVP in the season in which he 177 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: hit sixty home runs. Well, he didn't win because Aaron 178 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 3: Judge had an unbelievable season. I've told you before, Jeff, 179 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: there are a lot of years where there are two MVPs. 180 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 3: There are no wrong answers here. Anyone who voted for 181 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: cal Raley there is no argument with that. But if 182 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: you voted for Aaron Judge, there's no argument with that either. 183 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 3: And I found it really compelling and really refreshing that 184 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: most people, instead of screaming and yelling how can cal 185 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 3: Raley lose? How could Aaron Judge win? Everyone recognize this 186 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: was a year where there were two MVPs and no 187 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: wrong answers. 188 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: And Dad kind of on the MVP race, don't you 189 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: have a team ten that you have put together for well, yeah. 190 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 3: Just based on what cal Raley did. You gotta think 191 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: maybe other than Mike Piazza in nineteen ninety seven, has 192 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 3: any catcher ever had a season like this and not 193 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: won the MVP. Now we've been the MVP is nineteen 194 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: thirty one on that's when the Baseball writers guys like 195 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: me have been voting for this. So I think cal 196 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: Raley had the greatest season by a catcher without winning 197 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 3: the MVP. And I ran a team tim on this 198 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: and This is very debatable, but my first baseman is 199 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: Lou Gary, who did not win the MVP in nineteen 200 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: thirty one Jeff and he hit three forty one, had 201 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: forty six homers, drove in one hundred and eighty five runs, 202 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 3: scored one hundred and sixty three runs, had two hundred 203 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: and eleven hits, and did not win the MVP because 204 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: Lefti Grove won the MVP that season. The first year 205 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: of the MVP went thirty one and four. So so 206 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: again this is not about snubs for MVP, because everyone 207 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: we mentioned in these years essentially earned it and deserved it. 208 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: But there's somebody else that deserved it just as much. 209 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: That's the point. So second base Roberto Alomar nineteen ninety nine, 210 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 3: he finished third to Pad Rodriguez and Pedro Martinez. Just 211 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: go back and look at Robbie Alamar's nineteen ninety nine season. 212 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: It was ridiculously good and he finished third. Third base 213 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: Eddie Matthews, who never won an MVP. His nineteen fifty 214 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 3: three season, hit forty seven homers, one hundred and thirty 215 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 3: five RBIs, had an ers over one thousand, and didn't 216 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 3: win the MVP because Roy Campanella did, so this is 217 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: the point. The shortstop is Bobby Witt. His twenty twenty 218 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: four season was just ridiculously good, but Aaron Judge had 219 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 3: an even better season, so he won the MVP that year. 220 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: But it's maybe the greatest season by a shortstop to 221 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: not win the MVP. Outfield, of course, Ted Williams is 222 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: number one here. He won the Triple Crown twice and 223 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: didn't win the MVP in either one of those seasons. 224 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: Nineteen forty one, Ted Williams hit four h six thirty 225 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: seven homers one hundred and twenty RBIs had an ops 226 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: of one point two eight seven, which is historically high. 227 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 3: But Joe DiMaggio won now, Jeff back then. Back then 228 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: you got extra credit points for playing on a winning team, 229 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: where not, we don't do it the same way. Now. 230 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 3: It's more of a Player of Year ballot instead of 231 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: a Most Valuable Player ballot. You agree with that. 232 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: I agree, and I even had asked you, Dad, how 233 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: in the world do you win the Triple Crown and 234 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: not become the MVP. 235 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 2: You're literally number one in all of the. 236 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: Important categories, and that's when you write, reminded me and 237 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: explained to me, it was different. 238 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 3: Batter that and Willy Mays nineteen sixty two or sixty four. 239 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 3: You know, he lost the MVP vote in both of 240 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 3: those years, could have won them easily. Willy May's only 241 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: won two MVP awards. If we had gone by today's standards, 242 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 3: he probably have won six MVPs. That's just how it works. 243 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 3: And Mickey Mantle's the other guy on this list. Mickey 244 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 3: Mantle's nineteen sixty one season, he batted three seventeen, hit 245 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 3: fifty four homers, knocked in one hundred and twenty eight 246 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: runs ops of one point one three five. But Roger Maris, 247 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: his teammate, hit sixty homers that year and won the MVP. 248 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: And last is our pitcher, Pedro Martinez, who I'm going 249 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 3: to do this in two year span nineteen ninety nine 250 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: two thousand, Pedro finished well. In ninety nine he finished 251 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: second in the MVP voting to Pud Rodriguez. And in 252 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: those two years combined, Jeff and I've told you, those 253 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: are the two great for me, the two greatest seasons 254 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: back to back ever put together by a pitcher. Those 255 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: two years, his ERA was one point nine to zero 256 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: and the league er those two years was four point 257 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 3: nine zero. He was three runs gosh, exactly below the 258 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: league average. That's how dominant Pedro Martinez was in his prime. 259 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: So that's my list of players at each position who 260 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: had every right to win an MVP but didn't. So 261 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: any suggestions there, Any objections there, Jeff. 262 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: None whatsoever? 263 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 3: Dad. 264 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: But if anybody else has something to say, a player 265 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: they want to add to the team, you can do. 266 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: So go to Great Game or what dot com and 267 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: all you got to do is find the say hi 268 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: to us button and send us some message there and 269 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: we'll be sure to respond to it. We have another 270 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: team Tim coming up next on is this a great 271 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: game or what? On this state in baseball history? And 272 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: also we're playing with baseball cards coming up next, welcome. 273 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: Back to is this a great game or what? Dad? 274 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 2: All right, well, back to back team Tim's why not? 275 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's do it. Well, this team Tim is the 276 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 3: best player at each position, least in my mind, who 277 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: never won an MVP. Now we have to go again 278 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: nineteen thirty one on because that's when the MVP became 279 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: an official vote. So, and again a lot of these 280 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: are very debatable. We want our listeners and our viewers 281 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: to chime in on this. I'm not suggesting all of 282 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 3: these are right, but this is just the way that 283 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: I see it. Mike Piazza never won an MVP. Go 284 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 3: back and look at that nineteen ninety seven season. Oh 285 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: my gosh, just incredible. So he's my catcher first base. 286 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of options, Jim Tomy, Johnny Maies, but 287 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: I'm going with Eddie Murray, who never won an MVP 288 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 3: and had some obviously incredibly great years with the Orioles, 289 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: but he was on the same team as Cal Ripken 290 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: at eighty three, Otherwise he might have won the MVP 291 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: that year. Roberto Alomar, who we mentioned I think is 292 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: the greatest second baseman never to win an MVP. Eddie Matthews, who, 293 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: for me, after Mike Schmidt, is the greatest third baseman ever. 294 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: He never won an MVP, and neither did Derek Jeters. 295 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: He's our shortstop. Jeter had an amazing season in nineteen 296 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: ninety nine and didn't win the MVP because that was 297 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: one of the greatest MVP classes I've ever seen. I 298 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: think six different players got a first place vote that 299 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: year for MVP. Joe. Think about that for a seconds. 300 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: That stunned you. 301 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 302 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, shocking, shocking, not even a top five of first place. 303 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: I think six guys got a first place vote that year. Okay, 304 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 3: my outfield again very debatable. I'm going with al Kline, 305 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: mel Ott, and Tony Gwynn never won an MVP. All 306 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: five of them had a season at least a season 307 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 3: that would have been an MVP season. And David Ortiz 308 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 3: is our DH and he never won an MVP either, 309 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 3: even though could certainly make a case after Ted Williams, 310 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 3: he's the greatest red Sox ever. So that's our playing 311 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 3: around with m vps. And what do you think of 312 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: that list? And there are a bunch of pictures of 313 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 3: course who never won an MVP, but it's a slightly 314 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: different category. 315 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I think going into pictures is difficult 316 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: because it changes at all. We would have to do 317 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: Greatest Pictures should ever win a cy Young, which would 318 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: make a little more sense given that it's dedicated to 319 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: the pictures. 320 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: I mean, to me, Dad, there was a couple of 321 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: shocks there. 322 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: I didn't realize Tony Gwinn never won an MVP and 323 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Mike Piazza never wanted. That is shocking to me, and Dad, 324 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: I looked back at that. You look at the ninety 325 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: seven season of Mike Piazza. 326 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: Is that the one you were talking about? Three sixty 327 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 2: two batting average, Dad? Forty homers? I mean, are you 328 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: kidding me? 329 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: That's a catcher, Jeff. 330 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: He's a catcher, right, and he bats three sixty two 331 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: and he finished second in the MVP voting that year, 332 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: only to fall to fellow Hall of Famer Larry. 333 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: Walker, right, May and Walker had an amazing year. And again, Jeff, 334 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: that's the point of these awards. Some years people just 335 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: lose out because someone was even better. But Mike Piazza 336 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 3: had every right to be the MVP that year. 337 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, on this state in baseball history, what 338 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: do you got for? 339 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty six, Sandy Kofax officially announced his retirement on 340 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: this day Again, Sandy Kofax, who I've told a bunch 341 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: of Sandy Kofax stories of the last few weeks based 342 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: on seeing him at Dodger Stadium and everything else. Jeff, 343 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,479 Speaker 3: he was ninety seven and twenty seven in his final 344 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 3: four seasons, he was seventy games over five hundred, and 345 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 3: then his elbow hurt so badly that he retired off 346 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: of four unbelievably great seasons at age thirty one because 347 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: his arm was killing him and he didn't want to put. 348 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 3: If we had today's technology, he would have gotten well, 349 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: maybe Tommy John, but he would have been back and 350 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: probably pitched for five or six more years. But so 351 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: on this date. He retired. On this date. In nineteen 352 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: twenty five, Gene Malk was born. Gene Malk was one 353 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 3: of the best managers in baseball history. Not in the 354 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame because he managed a bunch of really 355 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 3: bad teams. But I can tell you, Jeff, I, I'm 356 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: not sure I enjoyed too many more managers than him, 357 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: because he was so smart and he was he loved 358 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: the game so much. When he was a bench coach 359 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 3: or a coach for the Royals, I sat on a 360 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: bench with him. He was way past his managerial prime. 361 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 3: And he looked at me and he said he was 362 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: He was a major league player, but not for very long. 363 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: He said, I would have given up thirty years of 364 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: my life to play one hundred games in Hank Aaron's body. 365 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: That's what he told me. Wow, that's how much he 366 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 3: loved the game and how much he wanted to be 367 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: a great player thirty years of his life. He said, 368 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: I would have given up to play one hundred games 369 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 3: in Hank Aaron's body. Also, Gene Mauk once in Baltimore 370 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: showed me how you can look at a box score 371 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: and add up all the columns left on bass caught 372 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 3: stealing all that, and determine who made the last out 373 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: of the game. This is a major league manager showing 374 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 3: a dinky little baseball writer me. How do I said, Gene, 375 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 3: I don't understand how to do that? Show me. So 376 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 3: he sat down at his desk in the in the 377 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 3: visiting manager's office in Baltimore and showed me the process 378 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: to figure out who made the last out of the game. 379 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: Do you do you find that interesting? 380 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: I just think it's crazy that he had the time 381 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 2: to show you that. That's something you would show me, right. 382 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 3: But again, Jeff, this is back in the time where 383 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: the access was available. You could walk into Jean Mark's 384 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: office or any manager's office and they were in there 385 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: and you could talk to him about anything. Just can't 386 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 3: do that anymore, and that saddens me all right, this 387 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 3: date in nineteen sixty three, Dante Boschett was born. Of course, 388 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: his son is bo Bashett, who had a really good 389 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: World Series and it's going to make a ton of 390 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: money as a free agent out there. Dante Bichette. Jeff, 391 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: as you know, was Larry Walker's teammate and had some 392 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 3: incredible years with the Rockies. And he told me once 393 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: he said, every day, and this is in the prime 394 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 3: of his career, every day I go to the ballpark, 395 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: I wonder is today the last day that I'll be 396 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 3: able to hit in the big leagues. That's how hard 397 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: hitting is Jeff, especially today, that you go to the 398 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: ballpark saying do I still have it today? Is this 399 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: it for me? Even in the prime of your career. 400 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: No great NBA jump shooter goes to the arena and says, ah, 401 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: I hope I can make a three today. They show up, 402 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: figure I was. 403 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: Gonna jump on you and say, I know my dad's 404 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: gonna say. Does Lebron James ever show up to the 405 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 1: gym and think, am I gonna be able to hit 406 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: a fifteen foot right? 407 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 2: No? 408 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 3: That's because that skill. Sorry, and I love basketball and 409 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 3: it's a hard game, but baseball is harder. Hitting a 410 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 3: baseball is harder than shooting a three. It's the hardest 411 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: thing to do in sport. 412 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: I really firmly believe that hitting a baseball is the 413 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: hardest thing to do. And most baseball players, I know, 414 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: I saw Mookie Betts on a podcast say. 415 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 2: And it's not even close. 416 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: Right. 417 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, you know NFL quarterback who's a good baseball player, 418 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: a professional baseball player. 419 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 2: Said the same thing. So it just I mean, it 420 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: just speaks ball. 421 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: Yes. 422 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 3: And last birthday is David Ortiz nineteen seventy five, Big 423 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 3: Poppy was born. I should not share this with you, Jeff, 424 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: but when I was the Dugout reporter for several years, 425 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,679 Speaker 3: Big Poppy got a game winning hit. So I interviewed 426 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: him on live television after the game. And when the 427 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: interview was over, again, this is not good, he picked 428 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: me up, like over his head. He's you know, he 429 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: weighs one hundred and twenty pounds more than I do. 430 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: He picked me up over his head after I did 431 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 3: an interview with him. It was not a good look 432 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: for the ESPN reporter that day. But it was the 433 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 3: you know, fun loving Big Poppy having a little fun 434 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 3: with the dinky little sports reporter. 435 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: I mean that's one of my favorites. 436 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: And I mean over the weekend when we were at 437 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: that ALS event, Dad the fanatic came to you making 438 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: another funny reporting moment where the fanatics stood next to 439 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: you on his knees to do an impression of you. 440 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: And he remembered the moment. 441 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: Right. Oh, Jeff, listen, I forgot something speaking of the 442 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 3: ALS function that I spoke at, this is our quirktion 443 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 3: for the week, Okay, okay, And I forgot to put 444 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: it in earlier in the show. I'm glad you reminded me. 445 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: So. 446 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: Aaron Nola was recognized, as you know, the the award 447 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: winner for the Volunteer Impact Award from the ALS Association. 448 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 3: The other the chef there that night, and what a 449 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: great job he did cooking the food. It was incredibly good. 450 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: His last name was Nola. Also, so the chef who 451 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 3: spoke multiple times at the event like this is what 452 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 3: our salad is made of, this is the main course, 453 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: this is what dessert is. His last name is Nola, 454 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: same spelling, and he told us I've never met anyone 455 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: in my life with the same last name as mine, Nola. 456 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: And the guest speaker that night was Aaron Nola. Nola, 457 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 3: do you do you find that interesting? 458 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: And we don't see too many Kirkshions out and about, 459 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: so I would, yeah, Nola, that's so funny and obviously 460 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: no relation that they know of, right. 461 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: Right, right, that's so parfect. Okay, Jeff. Last event of 462 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 3: the day. What what do we got? 463 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: Three cards in the bathroom that you're back at home 464 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: and you have there's a collection of vintage baseball cards 465 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: in the basement bathroom of your home. So you decided 466 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: instead of ripping packs like we've done in the past, 467 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: which we may get back to one day, you never know, 468 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: but you decided to just grab some from the baseball 469 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: mit that's down there and take a look at who 470 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: you got. 471 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: So who we working? 472 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: Right? 473 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,719 Speaker 3: I picked out three? First one is Spike Owen, and 474 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: I love Spike owing He was a good player, played 475 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 3: for the Mariners, Red Sox, Expos and others. But I 476 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 3: love it. His real name is Spike. It's his real 477 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 3: name is Spike d Dee Owen. And I believe his 478 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: mother's maiden name was Spike's and that's how he was 479 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 3: named Spike. How about that? 480 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: That's so neat. 481 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: You know, my middle name is Patrick, and that's everybody 482 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean who knows. 483 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 2: Me well enough to go, oh, is that a family name? 484 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: And I said, it's actually my mother's maiden name, which 485 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: is kind of fun. 486 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, find it funny. Second one, Jay Buehner, a really 487 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: good player for the Mariners for many years, nicknamed Bone, 488 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 3: had great power and a tremendous throwing arm. So one year, 489 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 3: this is in the eighty nineties, Jay Buehner was, of 490 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: course losing his hair, so instead of like so, he 491 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 3: shaved his head and because of that, they had Jay 492 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: Buhner Buzzcut Night at the King Go and four hundred 493 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: and twenty six people sat in a barber's chair at 494 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 3: a baseball game at the Kingdome and got their hair 495 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: shaved off like Jay Buner as a support for the Mariners. 496 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 3: Right fielder Jay Buner told me, he said, you should 497 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: have seen it. Hair was flying everywhere. He said, I 498 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 3: should have collected some of it, some of it just 499 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: in case I needed a weave someday. So there you go. 500 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: And last one, Jeff is Mark Clear. Mark Clear was 501 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: a pretty darn good relief pitcher for several years, pitched 502 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 3: for the Angels and the Red Sox and the Brewers, 503 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: but this was always one of my favorite things. For 504 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 3: eighty one and eighty two he was teammates with Chuck Rainey, 505 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: so on the same pitching staff we had Rainy and Clear. 506 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: So they of course are on our all weather team, 507 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 3: and we will present that again. We've done that before, 508 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: but we'll present it again. Chuck Rainey and Mark Clear. 509 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 3: And in nineteen eighty two, sometime in May, I remember this, 510 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 3: Chuck Rainey started for the Red Sox against the Rangers, 511 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 3: the team that I was covering. I was the beat 512 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 3: guy in eighty two for the Dallas Morning News and 513 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 3: Chuck Rainey started. I think he pitched seven and a 514 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: third or something, and Mark Clear got the same. So 515 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: they were beaten by Rainy and Clear, and I wrote 516 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 3: most of my game story that night, I remember. I'm 517 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 3: sure it wasn't any good, but I wrote it based 518 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 3: on the fact that they got beaten by Rainy and 519 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 3: Clear All weather team. 520 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: Dah do you consider clear a color because we could 521 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: make an all color team, Tim, have you ever done that? 522 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: Yes? Blues, yeahboard, Yes, I've done the all color team. 523 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: We did. 524 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm running out of like brain space to remember 525 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: all the things. 526 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 2: We're doing on this podcast. 527 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: We've had a lot of team tims. We'll bring back 528 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 3: the weather Team next year and have Mark a Clear 529 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: and Chuck Rainey on it. 530 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Dad, have you ever been to Nashville? 531 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 3: I have. We've done the Winter Meetings in Nashville many times. 532 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 3: I played basketball on the Sunday of the Winter Meetings 533 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 3: at Vanderbilt University. Wow, it was so cool. Jeff Joe Biddle, 534 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: good friend of mine, put together a basketball game and 535 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 3: playing in the game. We had like coaches from the 536 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: Vanderbilt team. We had major leaguers, former major leaguers. It 537 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 3: was really a great collection. And we played the game 538 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: Jeff to one hundred and our team won one hundred 539 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: to ninety eight. 540 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: So it a great Yeah. 541 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 3: So it came down to like the last bucket wins, 542 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 3: the games ninety eight to eight, next bucket wins. We 543 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: scored and we won. It was so cool playing at 544 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 3: Vanderbilt University. So yes, I've been to Nashville a few times. 545 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: Well, I'm off to Nashville to cover the CMA Awards. 546 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be interviewing all the great country stars that 547 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: come through and so. 548 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: I'm off and in about. 549 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: Is there any country music country western stars you want 550 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: me to talk. 551 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: To for you? 552 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: Jeff, is Luke Combs gonna be there? 553 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 2: He might, he could be there right. 554 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: Well, you have to tell him from me that his 555 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 3: voice is unbelievable and help me hear Jeff. He was 556 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: like singing in like bars and stuff like that, and 557 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: people said, hey, you got a great voice. And now 558 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: he's got one of the great voices ever. Correct. 559 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: He dropped out of college. He want he was a 560 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: criminal justice major. He wanted to be a detective. And 561 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Yeah, he was singing in 562 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: local pubs to nobody, to the one drunk guy asleep 563 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: on the bar, and he said, I got I gotta 564 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: give this a shot. So if I see Luke Combs, 565 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: I'll be sure to say hi to him for you. 566 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure to made a lot to him coming 567 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 3: from me. 568 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: So he's more of a football fan, all right. 569 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening, and as always, thank 570 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: you for being a part of our family.