1 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Welcome into jags Am on this Thursday. The fans are 2 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: already in their seats as they get geared up for 3 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: day two of joint practices with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. 4 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: We are inside in the Miller Electric Center for the 5 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: studio today as we get ready for jag Zam. I'm 6 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Kinnannie Stevens, Brian Sexton and John Oser are back with 7 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: me as we get ready for day two of joint practices. 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: That's our big thing number one today as well, Day 9 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: two of those joint practices with the Bucks. As you 10 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: kind of get settled in a little bit, Brian, we 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: saw some of the action yesterday, but going through the 12 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: motions getting used to playing with another team, what can 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: you kind of look for specifically on day two. 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, if you go back to day one real quick 15 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: and just talk about the fact that it was a 16 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 2: physical performance by the Jaguars, they wanted to see it, 17 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: they got it. Today they're in shelves and helmets, so 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: it's not gonna be the same physical challenge that it was. 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: But you want to see the technical side of it. 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: So today's the day that. 21 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: You watch the receivers in their routes and the defensive 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: backs and their coverage and things of that nature. This 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: is a Bucks team that made the playoffs last year 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: and they're a good football team, so you want to 25 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 2: see young players. We talked about the class of twenty 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: three at nauseum here. You want to see those guys 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: continue to play well no matter who they're matched up against. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they went this route last year. They had 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: a real physical day against the Lions on the first 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: day of the dual practices last year, and then not 31 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 4: so physical the second day because you went to shelves. 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 4: I agree with Brian. You want to see them working 33 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: on the skill positions. I thought the defensive backs from 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: what I heard, played well yesterday against the Bucks receivers. 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 4: You want to see a repeat of that, and you 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 4: want to see them continue working on looks that they 37 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 4: don't necessarily get from their own team. I expect to 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 4: day be a little more about mental than physical because 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: of that. 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: Our second big thing is keeping it clean. Obviously much 41 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: more physical yesterday, but kept things everything in between the lines. 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: No fights. We know this can break out at joint practices, 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: John when you switch out of pads. You touched on 44 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: this a little bit, but focusing in on those key 45 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: skill positions. What else can you learn, Like, what are 46 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the big guys kind of doing on a daylight today repping. 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll get some pass rush in terms of technique, 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: it won't be as physical, you know. I get that 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: pads are important, but when you're controlling it the way 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 4: they do, you can probably get eighty seventy five eighty 51 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: five percent of the work that you normally would in 52 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: pads because they're so understandably tentative about not tackling to 53 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: the ground, about not putting players in tough situations. Brian 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 4: that I get, you get a little more out of 55 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 4: it when it's padded work, but they're trying to get 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 4: the mental and some high speed stuff on the outside. 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 4: I guess you might say, you know I. 58 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: Did like today Kai Tony Selly said yesterday that blocking 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: is about your feet, which seems countertuitive, right. Blocking is about, 60 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: you know, being able to get your hands on a guy, 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: but really it's about having a guy in between the 62 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: pass rusher and the quarterback, and so it becomes very 63 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: very technical. You'll hear Phil Rauscher talking about dropping their head, 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: dropping their hips. 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: Are your arms all the way out? Here. 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: In fact, Mike Malarkey, the former Jags coach, was out 67 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: here yesterday and he said, you ever see anybody rush 68 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: with their hands way out here? And I said no, 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: He goes, well, then why are they blocking with their 70 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: hands way out here? 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: Right? 72 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: He was talking about one particular player who's technique was 73 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: way off, and that's what they're looking for today. Again, 74 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: Buccaneers have a talented defensive front. Dug Peters Snardi talked 75 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: about Vitavea and what a handful he is in the middle. 76 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: So you're looking to see where a guy's feet and 77 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: hands are and then those are all coachable, correctable things. 78 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be flashes 79 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: as we check in on the skill groups and as 80 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: you talked about technique today as well. You did see 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: some placid yesterday. Brian Thomas Jenior looks good. If he's 82 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: really every single day, I feel like we've seen him 83 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: out there. Brian, was there anyone that you saw flashing 84 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: yesterday in not joining practice? 85 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: I say it again, Ventral Miller's just everywhere you look 86 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: you see fifty one. Maybe it's because he's got that 87 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: big club on his handle, though it was you know, 88 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: painted black, not the white que tip that Doug Peterson 89 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 2: laughed a bit at on Monday in his news conference. 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: Every time I look in the direction of fifty one, 91 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: I see him near the ball, whether that was Saturday 92 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: night against Kansas City or yesterday against Tampa. I don't 93 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 2: know that he breaks the starting lineup, but he's pushing 94 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: hard for it. 95 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, they have some depth there, and he's a guy 96 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: if he can stay healthy, should be on the field 97 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: in some capacity by the end of the year. A 98 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: Christian Brasswell, Chad Muma, Parker Washington. Those are all the 99 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,799 Speaker 4: guys you're hearing about. You guys know me. I put 100 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: very little faith in rookies actually contributing, But Brian Thomas 101 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: seems to be developing at a pace that surprises me. 102 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: I had some car troubles yesterday, wasn't on the field, 103 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 4: but had a catch yesterday for a touchdown, had one 104 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 4: on Monday for a touchdown, had one on Saturday. He 105 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 4: started to stack stuff. It makes you think usually rookie 106 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 4: wide receivers, if they get one or two plays that 107 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: you remember, oh, pretty good year. I think he's going 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 4: to be more than that, and that makes this receiver 109 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 4: corp very interesting. 110 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: I think one of the impressive things with Brian too 111 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,119 Speaker 1: is he seems to always be in the right place. 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: The play might not always work out the way they 113 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: wanted to, but he seems to be understanding the offense 114 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: and in the spots that he's supposed to be at 115 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: the right times. We'll talk a little bit more about 116 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: that and what else we saw a joint practice on 117 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: day one and what we're looking forward on day two 118 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: here coming up after the break here on jags am 119 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: geg XAM brought to you by Fields Atto Group. You 120 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: can see Jacksonville's premier luxury auto group by going to 121 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: Fields Auto dot com. Well, I've looked at joint practice 122 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: day number two with the Bucks. Hopefully just as good 123 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: as yesterday's fight free but you know, obviously we love 124 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: to see some competition, but keep think a little more 125 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: low key. 126 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 3: After practice yesterday, I'm sure you guys noticed this. 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: There were players from both teams all over the field, 128 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: you know, congregating and talking. I mean it was so 129 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: after really physical practice. They were all getting along well, right, 130 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: they made a point of it. 131 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: So I think that comes from the coaches. 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: It does, for sure. 133 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 4: There's nothing stupider than a football fight. 134 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: But it's funny though, because they have comments on them 135 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: and pretending a bunch but. 136 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: A coaches generally consider them a waste of time as 137 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 4: they are, and if coaches are encouraging it or allowing 138 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: it anyway, come on, I mean, it's it's it's time 139 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 4: to go to work. And might have disagreements, but at 140 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: the end of the day, all these guys are after 141 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: the same thing. They're trying to get better. Maybe an 142 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: emotional flare up, but not. 143 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: You know, let's be honest. How many times do you 144 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: see a fight between frontline guys? 145 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 3: You don't. 146 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: I mean most of the camp fights are guys who 147 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: are battling, you know, at the very bottom of the roster, 148 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: fighting for a spot, fighting for a spot, They lose 149 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: their temper, they let it go the starters. I can 150 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: remember one night here in two thousand and eight where 151 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: you had Big John Henderson fighting Maurice Williams. That's from 152 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: the last time that you saw two frontline guys go 153 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: at it. 154 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: Who's fighting Big John? 155 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: Not many people, but what was tough guys so he 156 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: wouldn't back down fair enough. 157 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: As we mentioned, this starts at the top right. This 158 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: is the coaching staff. Todd Bulls spoke after practice yesterday 159 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: and he said his respect for Doug Peterson and just 160 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: they're both understanding of how to practice together is why 161 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: he wanted to do this joint practice. 162 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 5: No, man, some good work done, Doug, run's a good program. 163 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 5: We try to run a good program with some good 164 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: work done on both sides. We got to see different schemes, 165 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 5: and that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to 166 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 5: make each other better. You know, the physicality is part 167 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 5: of the sport. We did a good job of taking 168 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 5: care of each other today. 169 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: He did. We didn't see as we mentioned, didn't get 170 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: too riled up. But it's nice to see, as he mentioned, 171 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: in a different style of football, even like obviously the 172 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs come in the way they run things to and 173 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: against a team that Jagged struggled against mightily, probably just 174 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: because they weren't mentally ready going into that game on 175 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve, but to kind of see a different lineup. 176 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: Did you hear what Jared Mayo, the new New England coach, 177 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: told his team about fighting against the Eagles last week. 178 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: I thought this was the greatest line of all time. 179 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: You said, if your a starter and you fight, you're 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: playing the whole game. And if you're a backup and 181 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 2: you fight, you're not playing at all. 182 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 4: The linebacker talking, you understand, Yeah, exactly, and it they 183 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: scheduled these practices and to fight simply waste their time 184 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 4: and Riff's injuries. 185 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's just I walked around the field, I 186 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: saw a little bit of everything yesterday. 187 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: There was an intensity level to it. 188 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: I mean when when Todd talks about Doug running a 189 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 2: good program, they didn't waste a lot of time. They 190 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 2: moved from place to place. Camp practice is scripted. That's 191 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: not a surprise to anybody. And Doug hat talked about 192 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: how the coordinators had worked together a few days before 193 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: the Bucks arrived to make sure that everyone got what 194 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: they wanted. 195 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 3: Out of it. Two things. First of all is these. 196 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: Now joint practices are just part of summer, so everyone 197 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: knows how to pull them off effectively. But I thought 198 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: they got the most out of their time on the 199 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: field with them yesterday. 200 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: And I think Doug's approach is interesting and I think 201 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: more coaches are doing this. The guys who really get 202 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 4: a lot of work this week won't play Saturday, they've 203 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 4: by necessity, even though fans I think like only having 204 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 4: three preseason games, the coaches are turning this one dual 205 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 4: practice into essentially a fourth preseason game, which they have 206 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: to do. 207 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: And we've talked about before. It's almost like two practices 208 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: at once. So it feels like you get that added 209 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: time as well because the coaches kind of divide up. 210 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, their offense, our defense, our defense, their offense, 211 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: and because of that going on same time, you get 212 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: twice the work in. It feels like at. 213 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: Times, well think about it from a coach's perspective, you 214 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: might not get a third Nate in rettle game. Because 215 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 4: you just might not get third Nate. They can make 216 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: sure they get the situation they won in this for 217 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: all the guys. 218 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 2: Well, how many times you need to see Denzel Mims 219 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: line up against mont K Brown? 220 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Right? 221 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 3: I mean, at some point you've made a decision, a 222 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: decision as to. 223 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: Who can play and where they fit in your scheme. 224 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: Now you get to see one of those players line 225 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: up against someone from Tampa that you haven't seen. Okay, 226 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,479 Speaker 2: that gives you a much better evaluation. 227 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: You can't necessarily predict what they're going to do either. 228 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: We talked to Josh Allen and Eric Armstead after practice yesterday. 229 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: Josh obviously had a career year last year. Get that 230 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: long term extension. He's going to be in town for 231 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: quite some time. He earned it for sure, and he 232 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about how he feels he's playing 233 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: at his best, he feels physically at his best, and 234 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: how that helps him help the team. 235 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is right now. 236 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 6: I feel the best I've ever felt being six years 237 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 6: into the league, you know, and we just got better 238 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 6: all around me as well. But now it's more team, 239 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 6: you know, more championship, Phil, more bring everybody in and 240 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 6: once everybody in hold this standard to a high standard. 241 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 6: If I can be willing to. 242 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 5: Do that. 243 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 6: And bring everybody along, man, we're gonna be hunting for days. 244 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: John, is that the next step of this He's set 245 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: the standard now bringing everybody in on it. 246 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 4: Well, I think with Josh and Brian, you've been around 247 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 4: him as long as I have. I know every player prepares, 248 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 4: but maybe because Josh is so open and candid about it, 249 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 4: you feel like you know more about his preparation process. 250 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 4: He missed the team because he comes back in the 251 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: off season he talks about it, but I do believe 252 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 4: that he spends each off season trying to figure out 253 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: how to prepare better, trying to get rid of what 254 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: didn't work before. So I think when he says he 255 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 4: feels as good coming into this camp as he ever has, 256 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: I think that has some weight. And I do think 257 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: he's a guy who is gets better every year and 258 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: feels more prepared, feels more gassed up, if you will. 259 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 4: So I guess what I'm getting that is. I don't 260 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 4: know if seventeen and a half sacks again, but I 261 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 4: don't worry about him being as prepared as possible and 262 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: playing at a high level after a contract years. I 263 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 4: feel like again he just keeps Peyton Manning to this, 264 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: and all the great players I've been around to it. 265 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 4: You know, they just keep wanting to get better because 266 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 4: they kind of know that if they don't physically, they're 267 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: going to fall off. So I feel like Josh again 268 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: him a big. 269 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 2: Year because of that truly important to him. I mean 270 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: that's what you don't know until you spend time around 271 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: the player. 272 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 3: He wants his name in the pride of the Jaguars. 273 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he wants to be the all time sack leader. 274 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: I think he needs something. 275 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: He's willing to work to do it. 276 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: We're talking eleven sacks, and so because we know what's 277 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 2: important to him, you can see him going out and 278 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: having a big year. 279 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: Two things. 280 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 2: One, he had a bunch of sacks in December, which 281 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 2: is important. I'd like to see him have a bunch 282 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: of sacks in September this year as well. I'm not 283 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: saying he got them in garbage time. I'm saying you 284 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 2: want to see more consistency of those seventeen and a 285 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: half sacks. 286 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 3: I would at least like to see that. 287 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: And the other thing is he proves how important the 288 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 2: offseason program is because he goes to Arizona and works 289 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 2: out and he looks incredible and is. 290 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 3: Ready to go. 291 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: Coaches will disagree with that because they want everyone here, 292 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: but you have great players that go do their own 293 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: thing and do it as well as he does. That's 294 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: the most important part. He didn't miss anything by not 295 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: being here. And I know people are like, hey, he 296 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: got the big contract, why isn't he here. If that's 297 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 2: what I get for my money, go anywhere you want. 298 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: The great ones don't need it because they know how 299 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 4: to prepare on their op Yeah, any yeah, you guys need. 300 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing it's important to point out. 301 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: You guys have been around enough professional athletes as well. 302 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: There's some people that are satisfied with certain things. Josh's 303 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: not one of those people. I think when he gets 304 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: to a point, he's like, no, I want more than that, 305 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: and I want more than that. And that's kind of 306 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: the mentality you need, especially at the professional level. If 307 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: you want to get to a championship caliber level, you 308 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: have to have that at different spots on your team. 309 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's great we have Josh in that 310 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: spot on defense. I think he'll bring it around him 311 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: as well. Another guy that we know that has a 312 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: similar mentality to that. As a new addition, Eric Armstead. 313 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: We haven't seen him out on the field yet beat 314 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: until he was activated earlier this week. He took part 315 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: into individual drills and do the team drills Yesterday's working 316 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: his way back from a knee injury. But he talked 317 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: a little bit about whether he you know, he thinks 318 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: he'll be ready for the start of the season, but 319 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: where his focus is really at for the season. 320 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 7: My goal is to feel good, to feel good and uh, 321 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 7: you know, get off to a good start in the 322 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 7: season and prepared to have a dominant season, but also 323 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 7: at the same time realizing that it's a seventeen game season, 324 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 7: and you know why. My my goal is always to 325 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 7: be my best when my best is needed, and I 326 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 7: think I have a great track record of that, and 327 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 7: looking at a season as a whole, I want to 328 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 7: get off to a good start, obviously, but also I 329 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 7: want to be, you know, there for my team when 330 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: they need me the most in December, in January, in February. 331 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 7: So that's always been my goal. 332 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Ryan or once again talking about somebody that's done this 333 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: a couple of years in a row, knows why he 334 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: needs to do to get his body ready and mentioning 335 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he played on that torminiscus throughout the playoffs 336 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: into the Super Bowl, so he's someone that will play 337 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: hurt if necessary, when needed, and now he's at a 338 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: point where he's like, I need to do what I 339 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: need to do to get ready to play one hundred percent. 340 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: Just two years ago, maybe it was three, he had 341 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: ten and a half sacks and you know, he's a 342 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 2: hand in the dirt kind of pass rusher, that's a 343 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: lot of sacks. In the last couple of years, he's 344 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: battled some nagging injuries. Doug Peterson was asked this morning, 345 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: you know, are we gonna see him on Saturday? Do 346 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: want to se him Atlanta? Dougs like, I don't need 347 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: to see him, don't need to see him. He knows 348 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: how to get ready, and he's not He's not here 349 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 2: for September, you know, he's here for Thanksgiving until the 350 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: super Bowl. He's that guy that when things get really difficult, 351 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 2: you want him in your locker room and in your 352 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 2: huddle keeping everybody focused because he's been in super Bowls before. 353 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: That's quote not a concern. Yeah, and it's not the 354 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: guy like that ten year guy. Even playing for ten 355 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: years at that kind of a level, you know how 356 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: to prepare, because if you don't know how to prepare 357 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: even be here, you're out of the league after ten year, 358 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: after six years. 359 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 3: I just serve a quick story. He came through. 360 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: There was a time when the draft visits would come, 361 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, the guys come in and they would let 362 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: us sit down with them. So in twenty fifteen, I 363 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: spent some time with him over in the stadium. In 364 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: one of the locker rooms doing an interview, and I 365 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: remember seeing how big he wasn't thinking, man, I would 366 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: love to have a guy like that right because he 367 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: reminded me of the John Henderson Marcus stroudays where the 368 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: physical size was so imposing. And here we are now 369 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: ten years later, and I say, let's not see him 370 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: until you need him. 371 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm kind of excited to see him. 372 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: Trent Bulky measurements. He loves the wingspan on those ends, 373 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: and he certainly is well. 374 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: He's got one Mason Smith, same guy. 375 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: I know he's molded after him. He's he will he 376 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: wanted night, So I'll talk about him after the break. 377 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: But stay with us. 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As we get 384 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: ready for day two of joint practice with the Bucks, 385 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: and also it's gonna be a preseason game on Saturday. 386 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: Ye we're gonna guess a little bit about who we 387 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: think we're playing is playing in that game because we 388 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: know they get a lot of work in during the week. 389 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: So the starters probably won't play at all, maybe some 390 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,640 Speaker 1: of the rookies. So who are you gonna be looking 391 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: at hopefully playing anything. 392 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: We'll never let it be said that if I have 393 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 2: a hammer, I don't swing it right, and I have 394 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: been swinging on Ventro Miller, so I'm gonna go with it. 395 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: He's not gonna crack. 396 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: Look, listen, he will impress you on Saturday night because 397 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: that's all he's done in training camp so far. 398 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: He's where he needs to be. 399 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 2: For a guy who is coming off an achilles guy, 400 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: and Achilles normally is the kind of injury that if 401 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 2: you do come back, it's a two or three year 402 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: point before you start to see the guy. But I mean, 403 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: he just run from place to plays, so he will 404 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: impress you. He won't crack the starting lineup. That means 405 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 2: taking foy Lucon right because he's a weak side linebacker, 406 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 2: or even Devin Lloyd, and he's not going to take 407 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: that this year. But he is a long term solution 408 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: and a guy who will be on the field, and 409 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 2: he might be a guy that because linebackers get beat up, 410 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 2: steps in in November and December and makes enough plays 411 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: that you're like, man, how do we find a way 412 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: to keep him on the field. He's just been a 413 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: really impressive part of the twenty twenty three draft class 414 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: that has really had a good camp, so it plays 415 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: with great energy. 416 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: I talked to him yesterday, John. 417 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: I know you have friends in the scouting world too, 418 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: but a scout years ago said to me, if you 419 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: get a chance to look a player in the eye, 420 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: you can tell a lot about what he is, what 421 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: it means to him. And as I talked to him 422 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: yesterday about football and how much he missed it last 423 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 2: year and how excited he is to try to stay 424 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: healthy this year, it's just it's that eye, the tiger thing. 425 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: I mean, he has got it and it would be 426 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: fun to watch him play. 427 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just hope for his say he can stay healthy. 428 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,239 Speaker 4: There's some guys early in their career where you look 429 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: at him and say, I know this guy can play 430 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: eight or nine years in this league. No doubt he 431 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 4: can do that. It's if he can stay healthy. He 432 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 4: was injured to Florida, been injured so. 433 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Far, but thing on Fred Taylor and he ended up 434 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 2: playing a long time. 435 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I. 436 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 4: Went with Cooper Hodges and he will play on Saturday's 437 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: gonna be one of those guys in that group, because 438 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: why wouldn't he. It's sort of a similar thing. He 439 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 4: won't crack the starting lineup to start this year, but 440 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: to get very quickly to that he might. I think 441 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 4: he's in a similar situation as Intreel, as with Cleveland's 442 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 4: been dealing with the heel. I'm sure as of Cleveland's 443 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: gonna play the whole season. Brandon Sheriff Older has dealt 444 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: with injuries over the course of his time with the Jags. 445 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 4: You can see Hodges being a guy just like Miller, 446 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 4: who can come in play well enough during training camp, 447 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 4: be forced into the line up at some point this season, 448 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 4: and playing well enough to hold on to it. They 449 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: would have liked that scenario last year, not the injury, 450 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 4: but they would have liked to have seen him in 451 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: camp long well if he had earned it. I mean, 452 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: you know, he still has not been on the field 453 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 4: or in practice long enough for them to say, yes, 454 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 4: we know what this is for him. He needs to 455 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 4: have that be this year because if if it's two 456 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: years in a row where you're going to the off 457 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 4: season not sure, then they start drafting over you. But 458 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 4: he clearly has that ability, that skill set, and he 459 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 4: might wind up doing this year. He might wind up 460 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: proving that he's the guy in the future. 461 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: There. 462 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like Ventrel, a guy that they had high 463 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: hopes for playing last. 464 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: Year, didn't because of injury. 465 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: But when you see him and yesterday he played pretty well, 466 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: you know against a big, physical Bucks defense at front. 467 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: I think he is a guy who by the end 468 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 2: of the year because of injuries. I mean, give Shriff 469 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: a ton of credit. He played with a foot ankle 470 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: last year. Oh yeah, yeah, I couldn't practice at all, 471 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: practice some, but couldn't practice both days last year year. 472 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: So I think he's a guy who by the end 473 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: of the season you'd be like, that's our starting guard. 474 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: Tons of talent from both of those guys. Just injuries 475 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: are concerned, so got to get them as much playing 476 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: time keep them healthy. I'm going with Mason Smith. That's 477 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: someone we were talking about. We've seen tons of slashes 478 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: from him. I think he will continue to improve as 479 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: things go along. We heard Josh heinz Allen singing his praises, 480 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: just talking about his you know, God give an abilities, 481 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: all his natural range, what he looks like out there. 482 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: I think he won't get beaten the same way twice. 483 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: He's very smart. He's one of those people that you 484 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: don't have to tell this similar to Brian Thomas as well, 485 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: Like when he makes a mistake, he doesn't make a 486 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: repeated mistake, and I think that's huge, especially coming in 487 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: his rookies. There's tons of stuff being thrown at you. 488 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: But if you can take that in and be like, 489 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: all right, that's something I can cross off the list. 490 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: I won't do that again. That's how you improve as 491 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: a rookie. And he might end up being one of 492 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: the steals of the draft. Obviously, this was a high risk, 493 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: high reward pick. He came in the second round. A 494 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: lot of people thought that was an overreach. Trent Balke 495 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: feels very strongly about this. Obviously, he was dealing with 496 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: some injuries, then came back and played at LSU. Didn't 497 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: look at the same player. He looks better now, doesn't 498 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: seem to be hampered by anything. So if this pans 499 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: out well, Trent Balkey's gonna look really smart for picking him, 500 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: even though people are ragging on him to start. 501 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: You know, on draft day, the first thing that stuck 502 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: out to me was Chris Jones. He's got Chris Jones size, right. 503 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's that big in that athletic. Chris Jones, 504 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: who's probably the best defensive lineman in football today, and 505 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons, who's probably the best interior defensive lineman in 506 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: the division, were both guys who slid down the draft 507 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: board because of injuries when they were a Mississippi State. 508 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 3: And I asked him about that. 509 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: I said, you've got all these measurables, you were highly acclaimed, 510 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: and yet your injury cost you. I said, do you 511 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: recognize And he's not. In his head he gets he said, Brian, 512 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: I want to be great. I love that he's got 513 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: that eye that look to him. Now, he's got a 514 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: lot to learn. I mean, you start stepping up. He's 515 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: twenty one years old, he's playing against twenty eight, twenty 516 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: nine year old offensive lineman. He realizes the challenge in 517 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: front of him. But it's really important to him as well, 518 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: and Man's that is just one more thing when you 519 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: get the size and the length and all that on 520 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: the draft and then you get a guy to whom 521 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: it's really important. Yeah, he was worth the second round 522 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: pick for sure. 523 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 4: He's really important because you figure Armstead is not going 524 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: to be here three years, right, I mean, I hope 525 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 4: he is for his sake, but realistically history tells us 526 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 4: he's not. So you need Smith to come along and 527 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: be that guy in a year, two years where it's 528 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: Smith Trayvon Devon Howe. You keep all these guys together, 529 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 4: but you need him to be that dominant force on 530 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: the inside that you sign Armstead to be this year. 531 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 4: And at some point, like we've talked about all off season, 532 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: when you've got Trevor, Josh Heinz Allen, all these guys 533 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 4: locked up taking up a lot of cap room, you 534 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 4: need that guy. You need some dominant linemen. I think 535 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: Hod just sort of feels that thing too. You need 536 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 4: these guys to start developing that you drafted and being 537 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: stars that you didn't necessarily picking positions where you would 538 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 4: be sure of it non first round picks. Smith could 539 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 4: be sort of that transition to being that sort of team. 540 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: And also important in this process when you do the 541 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: development part, you need Josh Eric those guys to help 542 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: pull things along, similar to how Josh talked about when 543 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Klays was here, helped pull him along and learn the 544 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: ways and then as it progresses things. 545 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 4: And Josh's words yesterday about Smith mattered. Josh doesn't always 546 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: like he doesn't do that to everybody. If you ask 547 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 4: him about somebody, he'll praise him, but not to the 548 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: point where he's saying, hey, he's got a chance to 549 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 4: be that guy. 550 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 1: That's interesting, absolutely noted for sure. Stay with us here 551 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: on JAG XAM our final look at live practice, and 552 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: we'll tell you what we think is gonna happened later 553 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 1: on today. Dag fans, Jag fans, If you want customized 554 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Jaguars furniture for your home, check out gift Chair at 555 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: dot com rouse all customizable options. Zip Chair is furniture 556 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: for fans. 557 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 8: A lot of these guys, man, they I'm old enough 558 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 8: to be some of these guys, dads man. 559 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: So some of these. 560 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 8: Guys, man, I remember, God was just like I used 561 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 8: to watch you in seventh grade and I was just like, men, 562 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 8: I'm telling me that no more. Man, It's like I 563 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 8: was in the sixth grade when you came in the league. 564 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 8: So uh, man, obviously it's just it's it's humbling that, uh, 565 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 8: you know, the respect that the guys have given me 566 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 8: since I stepped foot in this locker room, and uh, 567 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 8: you know, obviously just being being any sort of assistant 568 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 8: to these guys. Man got a lot of great young players, man, 569 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 8: So I'm excited to just be able to give those 570 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 8: guys what I got physically and uh mentally, for sure. 571 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: Your face back in Jacksonville, John were he heard from 572 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: Gibson yesterday. He was here on some good teams and 573 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: now he's coming back around. 574 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 4: Give Gibson credit because it is hard to play thirteen 575 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: years in this league as an undrafted rookie, as undrafted 576 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 4: rookie and a guy who you know has played on 577 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 4: a lot of teams. Usually the path for a lot 578 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: of guys is you play four years somewhere, you go 579 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 4: play for a couple, then you're one, and then you 580 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 4: really you're sort of in that NFL wilderness where teams 581 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: don't want to pay anymore for guys they did in draft. 582 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 4: So seven eight years of about thirteen and I'm not 583 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 4: shocked because when he was here, he was a guy. 584 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 4: He got it. He knew how to assimilate into a building, 585 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: he knew how to keep preparing, and he's a smart player. 586 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 4: He an underrated thing for fans who really really watched close. 587 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: Not underrated, but wasn't the guy off the Saxonville team. 588 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 4: He had Kalaya, he had Jalen. You had a million 589 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 4: guys he talked about more than him, but he mattered 590 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 4: a lot and I think it's a good signing for him. 591 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: Well, here's why it was a great move by Trent Balkey. 592 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: You've got a guy, a veteran guy that you're locking 593 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: up now who's got a six week suspension, And how 594 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 2: is that good? You don't need him right away, but 595 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: the chances are you're gonna need him down the stretch 596 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: at some point. Right Andre Cisco was banged up a 597 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: bit last year. Dewey is already banged up. So now 598 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: you've got a guy that you can count on later 599 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: in the season, who's playing at a number that fits 600 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: your salary cap very very well. It's a jar on 601 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 2: the shelf, something that they can go to as opposed 602 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: to you get to mid October and you're looking for 603 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: somebody on the street who can help you, right, and 604 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: there's nobody there. You've now got a guy that you 605 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: can have for the stretch run and at a position 606 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 2: that is super important in this game. 607 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: And you're not paying him for the first six weeks. 608 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 4: And it really is GMS think this way. It really 609 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: is a fifty fourth guy in the ross yep. Because 610 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 4: you're gonna need that death at some point, so let's 611 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 4: make sure they're in a position where you're at. 612 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, smart move, a good. 613 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: Front office move, and yes, if they're doing what we hope, 614 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: which is win now, it will be very important on 615 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: the back half of the season. So you have joined 616 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: practice here again today. Second preseason game on Saturday. Jag 617 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: XAM will be back on Monday to recap all of 618 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: it for you. Make sure you check out all that 619 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: and have a good weekend.