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Speaker 4: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. How is the Giant's war room situation?

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Speaker 4: It looks like they're at the counter of a McDonald's.

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Speaker 1: Wait until water, guys, the friar leader's broken. It's just

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Speaker 5: Okay, Patriots Select, they heard your table pounding in a

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Speaker 5: Will Campbell. I'm a fighting ut to protect them with everything.

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Speaker 4: We call it BTT. You're a bang the table, guys.

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Speaker 1: You banged it before the thing even started.

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Speaker 4: We'll have him in our studio. We'll do a one

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Speaker 4: on one with him, and we'll bring him in here,

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Speaker 4: live and in person.

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Speaker 1: Great day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I can gush all over it. He took it.

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Speaker 4: He took it in a dark place. Yeah, guy, that

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Speaker 4: All right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Friday night.

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Speaker 4: Two of the NFL Draft. We're back and we'll be

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Speaker 4: back until ten o'clock tonight, maybe a little later depending

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Speaker 4: on what happens. Well, you know, we'll kind of play

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Speaker 4: it by youar. You know, things start to go berserk,

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Speaker 4: we can't just abandon shit, right.

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Speaker 5: Zirk, and at least wait out our picks, right seventy seven?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Duce, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, and

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Speaker 4: we're still glowing with the pickle. At least I am

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Speaker 4: of Will Campbell and we had a chance to sit

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Speaker 4: down with him today. So when we feel like it,

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Speaker 4: we'll play that for you. That was really cool.

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Speaker 5: When are you gonna play it, Mike, when we feel.

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Speaker 4: Like we feel like it? When Fred decided but he

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Speaker 4: was making the rounds today with the crafts and his

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Speaker 4: I guess agents. Yeah, he's so good. He has two agents,

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Speaker 4: big guy. You know what, Freddy, good kid, good kid kid,

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Speaker 4: good kid, good stock comes from good stock. So we'll

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Speaker 4: play that interview, and uh see who else they picked tonight?

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Speaker 4: The Patriots, Sarah have the sixth pick in the second round,

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Speaker 4: and uh, I'm thinking I said before the show to

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Speaker 4: the guys, I think we're going to go offense tonight.

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Speaker 4: We're going to continue. We're picking with me for the.

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Speaker 1: You into my role.

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Speaker 5: We have AFS fourteen game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's a really important night though for

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Speaker 7: the team. Nice pick with Will Campbell filled a major need.

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Speaker 7: But tonight, I think is where the rubber meets the

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Speaker 1: This is, you know, D two.

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Speaker 7: This is where the good teams find the good players,

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Speaker 7: the guys that maybe have some wartz or have something

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Speaker 7: is where your scouting staff makes their money, finds the gems.

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Speaker 1: And I hope tonight that they do a little do

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Speaker 4: Should it strictly be best player available from now on?

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Speaker 8: I think so. But I think Duce just said exactly

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Speaker 8: is this is where the men separate themselves from the boys.

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Speaker 8: That's what Fred likes to say. This is when you

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Speaker 8: know you got to get picks on Day two of

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Speaker 8: the draft are huge, Like it's one thing to sit

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Speaker 8: You know a lot of people could have done that. Now,

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Speaker 5: I like the way you put it too. It's a

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Speaker 5: you know, the day two picks. You know that's you

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Speaker 5: Bill Belichick used to talk to us a little bit

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Speaker 7: It's a great question, Fred, because I see both sides

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Speaker 5: We are underway, by the way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Browns have made a pick.

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Speaker 4: Oh they had Okay, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 8: The Browns took Carson Sweeshinger linebacker Linda from New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: So you don't like him, no.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's an interesting story.

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Speaker 7: I mean he was basically a special teams player the

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Speaker 7: don't know, just an interesting pick.

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Speaker 1: Again, defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 7: You just took Mason Graham, now you're going to put

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Speaker 1: I just who's on the offense still, Jerry Judy, that's

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Speaker 4: So a lot of people speculated yesterday that now that

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Speaker 5: I think that they told you and the top of

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Speaker 4: Well at the top of the first round.

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Speaker 5: No, but I don't I think if they liked him

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Speaker 5: I think someone will take Shad with Sanders tonight. But

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to be like.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, well at this point too, you know,

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Speaker 8: you're there's only so many teams that need the quarterback,

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Speaker 5: I don't pick until the round round three, right, right,

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Speaker 5: but maybe New Orleans.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: And so like so it's like, let's say shut goes

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Speaker 7: why do we spend so much time talking about sdor Sanders?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: So that's not that good round pick.

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Speaker 5: And I was telling you guys, it was listening to

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Speaker 5: We're only talking about him sliding because of his last name,

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Speaker 5: like both sides so dug in that it's he got

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Speaker 5: snubbed because he's a Sanders or we're only talking about

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Speaker 5: who's right. You know, it's totally diametrical opposites.

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Speaker 8: we're moving pretty quickly. They did not take an offensive,

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Speaker 5: Took the guy out.

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Speaker 8: So now it looks like Ursery might actually end up

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Speaker 4: And we think we have a trade. The Seahawks have

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the Seahawks are on the clock.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yep, So maybe that's maybe that's Ursery, But I mean,

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Speaker 7: I think you saw Houston last year after they lost

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Speaker 7: It seems like they're you know, continuing to stuck up.

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Speaker 7: I just always think it's interesting what Nick Cassario's doing

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Speaker 1: Seeing some of the trades that all. That seems kind

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Speaker 7: But I mean maybe this is kind of a sweet

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Speaker 1: Continue.

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Speaker 4: So who do you think the Seahawks moved up for.

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Speaker 7: I mean maybe Ursery. It's as good a bet of

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Speaker 8: The ed drushers. They are still there potentially too. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: I like where your headsat with Jayden Higgins, Mike just

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Speaker 8: year too, you lose to Von Diggson free agency. You know,

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Speaker 8: Higgins can play off of Nico Collins is more of

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Speaker 8: I can see what they're going for now they I'm.

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Speaker 1: Going to study your size.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to stun you because you know what I

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Speaker 5: think of you know, the offensive line. But wasn't the

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Speaker 7: I mean we all kind of assumed, oh, they're going

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Speaker 5: The pick in for Seattle, you know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so they traded number fifty two in number eighty

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Speaker 4: Okay, fifty two. Any chance that Seahawks are in the

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Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I mean absolutely. I don't know why you

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Speaker 5: But I think Cleveland is like Cleveland is broadcasting to

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Speaker 5: everybody that they don't want them, Like why wouldn't you

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Speaker 4: Because you didn't want to spend you didn't want them there,

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 5: Know, four picks, two picks later, you want them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure that, like I keep bringing up Garoppolo,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure the Patriots like Garoppolo, they're just never we're

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Speaker 5: I mean, I just but they just took a second

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Speaker 5: rounder and didn't take them. This is what I'm trying

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Speaker 5: could absolutely see Seattle taking them. No, I mean, you

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Speaker 7: Well, i'd feel bad for him. What did you like, Sam,

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Speaker 7: here's the guy, but now you got this thing hanging.

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Speaker 5: Here's the quarterback. But you know, you take a developmental backup.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that doesn't I don't think that that necessarily

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Speaker 4: By the way, last night's show we got the numbers in,

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: So I want to thank everybody for watching last night.

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Speaker 4: The highest draft show that we've ever done. We've done

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Speaker 5: You gotta think Rivers and Tides was high. But that's

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Speaker 5: just me.

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Speaker 4: Well, if people had known we were going to get

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Speaker 8: The time, and so the Seahawks picks in, it's Paul's guy,

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Speaker 8: Nick Amnewery. Oh there you go, out safety goes to Seattle, so.

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Speaker 1: Woh, treat it up.

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Speaker 7: Gotta have them, gotta have them, have them, gotta kid

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Speaker 5: A lot of guys had a first round grader and

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Speaker 5: just because Evan didn't like, I mean, no one else.

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Speaker 4: Bugler had a He was in the top thirty two.

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Speaker 5: Number seventeen.

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Speaker 8: I will fully be accepting that I could be very

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Speaker 5: It so it's funny I'm to be in full disclosure

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Speaker 8: I think that the things that I saw with him

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Speaker 1: Well, they're probably.

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Speaker 8: Thinking that he's Kyle Hamilton to point zh and I

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Speaker 4: So do we know who these Seahawks picked?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's some worry, right, Yes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the player we just spent the last time I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I took Quinn Judkins at thirty six that I

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Speaker 5: was like to me, it's almost like I thought they

441
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Speaker 5: should have taken genty at five. You could have gotten

442
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Speaker 5: genty light. Yeah, right at whatever the thirty six and

443
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Speaker 5: they went with kind I mean good running back. John

444
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Speaker 5: Kins is not a stiff. I don't want to make

445
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Speaker 5: it out to be that. I think he's He's not good,

446
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Speaker 5: but I think Anderson is the better player than.

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Speaker 8: You guys a little bit. Yeah, I think they were.

448
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Speaker 8: It was a coin flip for a team, Like a

449
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Speaker 8: lot of people had them kind of neck and neck

450
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Speaker 8: and sort of a flavor thing like Judkins is more

451
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Speaker 8: kind of one warrant. Yeah, Judkins is an angry runner,

452
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Speaker 8: like he's a downhill angry runner. He's gonna run people over,

453
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Speaker 8: he's gonna wants.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a tone setter.

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Speaker 8: Henderson's uh, you know, Breese Hal Jamir Gibbs. Like he's

456
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Speaker 8: a space player. He's an explosive player. So if you

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Speaker 8: if you wanted you know more of I think Judkins

458
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Speaker 8: can probably fit more in like a volume role as

459
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Speaker 8: an early down running back and somebody that could probably

460
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Speaker 8: tote the rock a little bit more. But Henderson's going

461
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Speaker 8: to be the guy that's going to make the bigger plays.

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Speaker 4: So so who on uh the Twitter is getting the

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Speaker 4: picks early?

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Speaker 8: A lot of people are a lot of people. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I think most people try to stay off tipping, uh

466
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Speaker 8: you know, on night one, to just kind of let

467
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Speaker 8: the spectacle happen. But now tonight, I think all the

468
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Speaker 8: gloves are off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just kind So the Browns have picked their guy,

470
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Speaker 4: The Raiders are up the hole, and then the Patriots

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Speaker 4: Patriots are on deck as we speak.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, because there a guy for the Patriots

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Speaker 5: and I know they're only on deck, but guy that

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Speaker 5: you'd really like to see Jalen Nole.

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Speaker 1: Uh Ezeraku Scordon, those are those are the two?

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Speaker 4: Pretty nice to take the BC kid, Yeah, I think

477
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Speaker 4: the Jalen Knowle here, Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 8: Luther Burden is still there. I think I assume that

479
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Speaker 8: Luther Burden is off a lot of people's boards.

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Speaker 5: I like, but I'm just assuming that, yeah, something's up,

481
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Speaker 5: he's off.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Azeraku makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 5: I would rather pick Burden. I just want to state

484
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Speaker 5: that before we make the pick. I don't want to

485
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Speaker 5: get called a fraud when we pick Burden. I'm like

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Speaker 5: oh great, yea, because I like Burden better. But clearly

487
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Speaker 5: there's something about him that's causing him.

488
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Speaker 4: Get a wide receiver room that you think needed some maturity.

489
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Speaker 4: Maybe he's not the best person to bring into it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, ye I've you've added digs though, and I would

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Speaker 7: hope that you know he's going to bring in just

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Speaker 7: an element of setting the bar high and reinforcing some

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Speaker 7: of those expectations.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think ask who you know makes a ton

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Speaker 8: of sense for them. Boston College kid, they had probably

496
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Speaker 8: a great intel on him, tested really well, had sixteen

497
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Speaker 8: sacks last year at BC, second in the FBS and sacks.

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Speaker 8: I think that he has the type of play, you know,

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Speaker 8: style that fits him. I actually compared him to Harold Landry.

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Speaker 8: I think they're similar players in the way that they run,

501
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Speaker 8: they Russian in the way that they win. So I

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Speaker 8: could see that making a lot of sense.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 8: When we were at Boston College for his pro day,

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Speaker 8: Bill O'Brien said that Doug Marone did a lot of

506
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Speaker 8: behind the scenes stuff with Eziraku and was working with

507
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Speaker 8: him behind the scenes on this is what the linemen

508
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Speaker 8: are going to do to you? So how do how

509
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Speaker 8: are you going to counter what an offensive lineman is

510
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Speaker 8: going to do to you, that type of thing. So

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Speaker 8: he has a pretty good relationship with the player, knows

512
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Speaker 8: him pretty well. So if I had to guess if

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Speaker 8: they're going to go edge, I think as Iraku makes

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Speaker 8: a ton of sense. Maybe running back here, maybe they

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Speaker 8: go Trayvon Henderson.

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Speaker 4: What I hope for? Yeah? Wait, a couple emails at

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Speaker 4: podcasts at Patriots dot com, Ryan in Nebraska, here's what

518
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Speaker 4: I'd like to see in wonder your thoughts at thirty

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Speaker 4: eight or a slight trade back og preferably Ratledge from Georgia.

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Speaker 4: But I'm intrigued by Millim in savanaa running back top

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Speaker 4: of the third. My prediction, however, at thirty eight is

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Speaker 4: an Ohio running back. So despite what he wants, he

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Speaker 4: thinks they're gonna take an Ohio State running back Henderson. Yep, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't hate.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't hate that bit.

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Speaker 7: I'd I just I think it's a little soon for

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Speaker 7: another guard. Yeah, just at some point you gotta let

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Speaker 7: those guys compete. I'm not against it. Maybe a little

529
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Speaker 7: bit farther down, but for right now, I want I

530
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Speaker 7: want to take a swing.

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Speaker 4: Maybe Andre in New Jersey. First thing, Evan was on fire.

532
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Speaker 4: And I'm not just saying about his heated arguments, but

533
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Speaker 4: the way he dressed yesterday was very sharp. Unlike the

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Speaker 4: rest of you guys, they will say, I'm very disappointed

535
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Speaker 4: with the wardrobe. I know Paul can't afford a new car,

536
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Speaker 4: but I expected better of him. As for the pick,

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Speaker 4: I loved it. We needed a stud and that's exactly

538
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Speaker 4: what we got. As for the fans that call in,

539
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Speaker 4: why the hell can't you ever be pleased and always whining?

540
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Speaker 4: Just be happy with the pick and for May not

541
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Speaker 4: to be killed this season. Also, Evan, happy that you

542
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Speaker 4: get to go to Kendrick Lamar and I'm going next month.

543
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Speaker 4: He's my second favorite rapper behind eminem.

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Speaker 1: Oh good picks.

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Speaker 8: Thank you for all the compliments.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you love the chastising with the people who

547
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Speaker 5: don't agree with him. Why can't you just be happy

548
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Speaker 5: with the pick? I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, no, that that's That's exactly what I was going

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Speaker 8: to say, Like, it's not not everybody has to be

551
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Speaker 8: happy about the pick. If you didn't like the player,

552
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Speaker 8: you didn't like him, you know we're all happy.

553
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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean, you have to be negativity that's in

554
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Speaker 1: this town sucks.

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Speaker 10: I agree.

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Speaker 4: Rick Rick backer from Uvalde, Texas Dolphins, are the trade

557
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Speaker 4: the Dolphins traded. Okay, a while back, you wondered how

558
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Speaker 4: different mock drafts from December January were to the actual draft.

559
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Speaker 4: This is a mock draft by Field Yates from December eleventh,

560
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, which means the draft order hadn't been set.

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Speaker 4: Interesting takeaways Number one Giants Chador Sanders, two Raiders Cam Ward,

562
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Speaker 4: three Patriots Travis Hunter in forour Carolina Abdul Carter.

563
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Speaker 7: So yeah, that was I mean, that was the period

564
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Speaker 7: where you feel like we're feeling out the quarterbacks. And

565
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Speaker 7: we talked about a little yesterday, we're cam Hoard all

566
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Speaker 7: of a sudden, because I would say after that, there

567
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Speaker 7: was i'd me when you thought it was Carter.

568
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Speaker 5: At the end of the football season, it was Sanders Ward, Yeah,

569
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Speaker 5: and then once you got into combine season, it was

570
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Speaker 5: Ward Sanders in the quarterback rankings. Now, Sanders I think

571
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Speaker 5: has continued now once you started getting into the combine

572
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Speaker 5: in the interviews and then the thirty visits and everything else,

573
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Speaker 5: I think Sanders has gone even lower.

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Speaker 8: So Patriots are on the clock. Dolphins have made the pick.

575
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Speaker 8: They're taking Jonas Savanilla, the guard from Arizona. So they

576
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Speaker 8: jumped the one up to above the Patriots to take

577
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Speaker 8: a guard. So the Patriots are now on the cloth.

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Speaker 1: It feels like we're a little all over the place.

579
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Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just I got Brugler's top one hundred

580
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Speaker 7: years to cross off and kind of keep track a

581
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Speaker 7: little bit. But you're getting now into guys. It seems

582
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Speaker 7: like as as we knew coming into this draft, a

583
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Speaker 7: lot of people set it in the lead up that

584
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Speaker 7: there's just a lot of similarities in this would second

585
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Speaker 7: like right, so it's it's I think you're gonna sit

586
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Speaker 7: st jumping all over Fitz draft.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, seventy is a perfectly

588
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Speaker 8: fine player. I think it's interesting in that offense because

589
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Speaker 8: he's a big dude, like he's kind of built like

590
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Speaker 8: Mike onn Wentu. So outside zone scheme with a player

591
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Speaker 8: that's playing at three thirty, three hundred and forty pounds

592
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Speaker 8: not typically the type of lineman that those types of offenses

593
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Speaker 8: like to take, so it's an interesting fit. You know,

594
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Speaker 8: he's a really good athlete, but he's still built the

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Speaker 8: way he's built. I'm interested to see what are there

596
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Speaker 8: going on.

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Speaker 5: I like that trade because I was worried that the

598
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Speaker 5: Raiders would take a receiver. Okay, so I'm glad that

599
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Speaker 5: Miami jumped in front of him and took a guard

600
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Speaker 5: because I don't think the Patriots would take it guard right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean some people think they would.

602
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Speaker 8: I guess maybe the Dolphins did. I mean, seventy is

603
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Speaker 8: their type of player. He's more their type of player

604
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Speaker 8: than Miami's type of player. That's why I'm kind of surprised.

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Speaker 8: I think he's a good player, So I'm not trying

606
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Speaker 8: to kill the player.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not killing the pick.

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Speaker 8: I don't I don't understand the scheme when you see

609
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Speaker 8: big and powerful and you see three hundred and twenty

610
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Speaker 8: four pounds next to his name, and then you're gonna

611
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Speaker 8: put him and have him running in that offense like

612
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 8: we went outside zone and trying to get outside the

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Speaker 8: hashes and and run the ball to the perimeter and

614
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Speaker 8: things like that.

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Speaker 1: He's a big boy, big dude, so he's one to have.

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Speaker 7: Like he's one right right tackle in college and he

617
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Speaker 7: just going right inside the guard, there's not even a question.

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Speaker 8: With Yeah, most likely. I think that if he was

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Speaker 8: in the right type of system, like if he was

620
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Speaker 8: in a downhill scheme, then he probably could have played

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Speaker 8: right tackle in the NFL. He's got the length, he's

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Speaker 8: got the athleticism for it. But my guess is that

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Speaker 8: he's probably going to be best at guard. But I

624
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Speaker 8: think he probably could have held up at right tackle

625
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Speaker 8: if a team wanted to keep him out there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's been a lot lot of offensive eyes just tweeted,

627
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Speaker 5: you know, if the Dolphins needed linement and they were

628
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Speaker 5: running out alignment, So maybe that's why they just said

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Speaker 5: we got to go up and get one. Yeah, before

630
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Speaker 5: they're all gone, I'm just just sing them with ursery.

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Speaker 7: I mean, that's, you know, another potential option for them

632
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Speaker 7: that they passed on.

633
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Speaker 4: But Patriots are on the clock. Reck writes in from Dallas,

634
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Speaker 4: fantastic show. It's obvious why the viewership grows every year.

635
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Speaker 4: You guys are by far the best draft coverage out there.

636
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Speaker 4: Can you expand on anything you're hearing on the potential

637
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Speaker 4: for Cavan Tibbitt, the bow Thibodeau being available if the

638
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Speaker 4: reporting is true and he might be available for a

639
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Speaker 4: third or fourth, should the Patriots have any interest.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I thought I saw reporting

641
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Speaker 1: last night that they were still planning to pick up

642
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: his option, and.

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Speaker 5: I know that he was very excited about the pick,

644
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Speaker 5: at least publicly.

645
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Speaker 1: NASCAR package.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I made that comment last night. The

647
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Speaker 5: Giants have had a lot of success with multiple edged

648
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Speaker 5: kind of players.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I can see it. Like I said

650
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Speaker 8: last night, Abdul Carter is one of those guys that's

651
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 8: a chess piece. You move them around the defensive front.

652
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Speaker 8: He doesn't have to just rush off the edge. He

653
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 8: can play off the ball, he can play inline over

654
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 8: the garden center like he's a Micah Parsons. He's a

655
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Speaker 8: chess piece.

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Speaker 5: And one of the things that people have been critical

657
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Speaker 5: of Carter about, you know, in terms of his red

658
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 5: flags his character, he doesn't you know, play the run

659
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 5: as well. Yeah, he's not as not as committed to

660
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 5: play in the run. So well, maybe you don't ask

661
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: him to, at least initially, and you ask him to

662
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 5: be strictly a pass rusher off the edge, and you

663
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 5: play Thibodeau more on the edge on early downs, and

664
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Speaker 5: I don't think Thibodeau is necessarily known as a run

665
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 5: stopper either, But I think you can find a way

666
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: to get three talented players on the field.

667
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

668
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Speaker 8: So, yeah, the clock is they're letting the clock tick

669
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 8: a little bit with this pick.

670
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 7: Seems like there's a lot activity going on with trades

671
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 7: and stuff. I assume they're probably taking calls trying to

672
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 7: measure what.

673
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're under.

674
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 8: Two minutes on the clock right now for the Patriots and.

675
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 4: Pedro and Rio. Evans comments yesterday about some players not

676
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 4: getting the opportunity to attempt to play tackle even though

677
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 4: the league doesn't have enough made me change my opinion

678
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: about Campbell.

679
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 5: That's what he did to me.

680
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

681
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 5: One, not about Campbell, but about the whole Dutch, the

682
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: whole history of the short arm tackle.

683
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: One thing is for sure, his body is odd. Doesn't

684
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: look like a tackle. He looks like a chubby kid

685
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: that got put on a man's six y five body,

686
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 4: and yet somehow he's one of the most athletic tackles

687
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 4: ever based on combine numbers. Now, I'm all for it.

688
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: Evan's comments really hit me. Get me a wide receiver today.

689
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't think he's chubby at all. I mean,

690
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 8: he was in here with us and he's that's a

691
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 8: that's a Charle Taldrins.

692
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 4: Sort of a cherubic face.

693
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, well he is only twenty one.

694
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's young.

695
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, but he I mean he's all he's every bit

696
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 8: of six six three twenty when he was in here

697
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 8: with us.

698
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 5: The fact that he's like my son's age is really

699
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 5: kind of blown me away, a little bit, a little old.

700
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 5: He's like six months older than my son.

701
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what cock's still ticking?

702
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: Louis wants to know what.

703
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 5: He blames a lot on genetics.

704
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 4: So Louis wants to know what it would take to

705
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: move up to get Luther Burden. I don't think you're

706
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 4: gonna have to. If you want him him right now,

707
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: you want him, you can have him.

708
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 7: Oh there's there's no socks, no socks live.

709
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 8: You're right right in the corner waiting. I don't know,

710
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 8: this is interesting. We're under a minute. Yeah, they're really

711
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 8: taking We're.

712
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 5: Going to pass. Belichick is back. We're going to pass.

713
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 4: So I have this google sheet that the NFL maintains,

714
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 4: and I can't make any changes to it. It's a tracker,

715
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: but I can see when the person's about to do something,

716
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 4: and he just highlighted the Patriots block for the player.

717
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: But because now I don't see any typing yet in yeah.

718
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 5: The red light is on him.

719
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: Is I know it is. I don't know it is

720
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: trying to stay off. I did not have it. Have

721
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: it broken you by slack or Twitter?

722
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 5: But uh, there's nothing on it, Mike.

723
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's something going on.

724
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 8: So I think that we're going to get some help

725
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 8: for Drake may.

726
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: Oh and.

727
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 8: Not just say it. Yeah, go ahead. Traveon Henderson running

728
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 8: back from Ohio State. So explosive, big play running back.

729
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 8: I've compared him a little bit to Jamiir Gibbs. I

730
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 8: don't think he's quite Jamiir Gibbs, maybe more in the

731
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 8: breeze hall mold, but that similar archetype of those two guys.

732
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 8: He's a explosive, big play, loose mover. I mean, this

733
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 8: guy can catch the ball out of the backfield. He's

734
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 8: gonna hit big plays in the run game. This is

735
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 8: a really nice pairing. I would say with Ramandre Stevenson,

736
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 8: you know, a little thunder and lightning action going on here.

737
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 8: I would assume that he's going to play a lot

738
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 8: on third down. His pass blocking tape was pretty solid

739
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 8: as well. I love the player. I'm really crazy about

740
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 8: the player. I had him on my big board. I

741
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 8: didn't know they would go running back this early. I did,

742
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 8: but I was just so infatuated with the player that

743
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 8: I felt like he had to be on there and

744
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 8: I would be really excited about it. So I love

745
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 8: this pick for the Patriots. I loved him before the draft.

746
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 8: It's a big play machine, so they got some explosiveness

747
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 8: that coming.

748
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 5: I like to pick a lot.

749
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too.

750
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: I mean, even though it's a running back pall.

751
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 5: It's a playmaking running back though. And this is where

752
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 5: like I didn't use the fifth pick on the fourth

753
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: pick to get them, I'm getting him in the second round. Okay,

754
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 5: perfectly fine. I think it's a really good pick.

755
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about the running back position in

756
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 1: the draft. How do you manage it?

757
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 7: Said over the last few days, they've got to come

758
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 7: away with a running back in this draft. Whether it's today,

759
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 7: whether it's tomorrow.

760
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good backs.

761
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 7: I like what they did just this is kind of

762
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 7: what we talked about with teams at the end of

763
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 7: the first round where you see what falls through the

764
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 7: cracks and then you make a move on what makes

765
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 7: the most sense of your team. I think this is

766
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 7: like Evan said, I think it's a slam dunk for them.

767
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 7: It's another help for Drake.

768
00:33:54,960 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 4: May NFL draft the New England Patriots select.

769
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 7: But I go back to I go back to last year,

770
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 7: you know, with Elliot Wolf saying needed to weaponize the offense,

771
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 7: and I feel like that's.

772
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 5: That's weaponized offense, you know, with digs.

773
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 7: With this now with getting protection, feels like they're checking

774
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 7: the boxes that they really needed to check in.

775
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: You know, I still think there needs to be filled.

776
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: But this is a guy who moves the needle for

777
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: the team.

778
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 5: See that first thing that he wrote there, Freddy, what's

779
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 5: that elite pass pro? Okay, so what does that tell

780
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: you for Josh McDaniels.

781
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 4: He wants him as his passing.

782
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 5: Back, speedback, passing back playmaker who can pass protect.

783
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 8: I mean, when this guy can literally make things happen.

784
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 5: That's a route down the field. It's not just like

785
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 5: you know, tell people what you There was a little

786
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 5: double move on the outside, kind of reminiscent of James White,

787
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 5: where you know, sort of lining up one on one

788
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 5: with a linebacker, abusing them with a pass route, not

789
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 5: just swinging out of the backfield, and kept in sixty

790
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 5: five passes for sixty eight yards the way they've done

791
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 5: in the past, the recent past, with their backs. This

792
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 5: guy's I really like this pick a lot for You're

793
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 5: not gonna make me like.

794
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 4: You're not putting me in a corner.

795
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: No, I didn't like.

796
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 5: I like it because because you always tried to start

797
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 5: at the beginning of this show telling me I didn't

798
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 5: like the Will Campbell pick, which I did.

799
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just I think when you watch, you know,

800
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 8: running backs like Jamior Gibbs, running backs like Burisse Hall

801
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 8: around the NFL, and you see guys that can get

802
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 8: into space and just make things happen. And that's what

803
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 8: Traveon Henderson is. He is a space back, he's a speedback.

804
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 8: He's an explosive, big playmaker. I really just thought watching

805
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 8: him on tape in the College Football Playoff, in particular,

806
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 8: the way that he was destroying pursuit angles by really

807
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 8: good defenses and really good high level of competition was

808
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 8: extremely impressive. And I love the pick. I love the player.

809
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 8: I'm pretty excited about what they're doing here offense because

810
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 8: Will Campbell a really good run blocking left tackle as

811
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 8: well as a good pass blocker. Now you get a

812
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 8: speedback in the backfield too, Like this is trying to

813
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 8: help out Drake May. I know it's not a receiver

814
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 8: per se, you know, a classic pass catcher, but all

815
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 8: these pieces that they're adding are helping Drake May.

816
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 4: So barring any trade, we've got a ways to go.

817
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 4: The Patriots will pick fifth in the third round.

818
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 7: If I may, Fred, if I may. The NFL just

819
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 7: made an announcement about some new uniforms that are coming

820
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 7: this year. Oh you don't mind if I'm sure there

821
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 7: will be many fans interested in this because the AFC

822
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 7: East is in fact one of the first teams. I'll

823
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 7: just read it a little bit about it. NFL and

824
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 7: Nike launch rivalries program with new uniforms and fan gear

825
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 7: inspired by communities.

826
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: What's to know Rivalries. The NFL and Nike's.

827
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 7: New uniform and fan gear program will elevate NFL rivalry

828
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 7: games over the next four seasons. The first cohort of

829
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 7: rivalry teams are from the AFC East and the NFC West.

830
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 7: Will wear uniforms born from local community insights during select

831
00:36:58,840 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 7: home games.

832
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: Against division right, like City connect for like City Connects.

833
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 7: So the Patriots, yes, folks, they will have new uniforms

834
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 7: in this rivalry program.

835
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: How often are they going to wear them?

836
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like over the next four years and select

837
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: home games against division rivals, So Patriots against the throwback.

838
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 4: Is an addition in addition to Color Rush.

839
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: Well I don't know color Rush exists anymore, but yeah,

840
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: well throwback sure, And it said over the next four seasons,

841
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: so they'll be releasing I guess two divisions each year.

842
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, Patriots are first up.

843
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 7: And so yeah, guys, we are getting some new uniforms

844
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 7: for the twenty twenty five.

845
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: Wow, that's exciting. I know everyone everyone's been clamoring.

846
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

847
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 7: Well it's some big news there too. So yeah, back

848
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 7: to back, get a ring back, you get a new uniforms.

849
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 5: All right, like a whole new uniform or a new uniform.

850
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: It's called the rivalry uniform.

851
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 7: And again Paul inspired by the community, so inspired by

852
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 7: New England.

853
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: As okay with these, so we're gonna have like lobsters

854
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 4: and right, just be a giant lobster uniform.

855
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: All right, so the only drawback here is a difficult

856
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: first name to type. Now, I'm not happy with the

857
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 5: random capitol letters.

858
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Hey, you go.

859
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 4: It's not that. It's not that bad.

860
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: Thanks, I'm gonna need device myself.

861
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: Fuess not that.

862
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 4: So we've added a left tackle and we've added a

863
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: running back. Uh, and that'll be it for a while.

864
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 4: We've got a you know, Patriots next pick is at

865
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: sixty nine. There could be a trade, you never know,

866
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 4: you could. You can come back up. They have two

867
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 4: picks in the third round. But in the meantime, as

868
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 4: I said at the top of the show, we did

869
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: have a chance to sit down with Will Campbell earlier

870
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: today as he made his rounds through the building and

871
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 4: Matt Morrell, if if we're ready to go, let's let's uh,

872
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 4: let's watch that number one pick, fourth overall, Will Campbell,

873
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 4: Will welcome to the Patriots. I know you've been through

874
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 4: the car wash, so I know it's been a long day,

875
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: so we're not going to keep you too long, but

876
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 4: we appreciate you stopping in.

877
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt, I'm super excited to be here. It's

878
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 11: an honor to represent this organization. And I just can't

879
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 11: wait for the future.

880
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 4: So it's Mike, it's Evan, it's Paul, I'm Fred. We're

881
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: in house. So you're you're safe here. Don't worry about it. Safe,

882
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 4: no doubt you were. We have what we call BTT guys.

883
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: Would you happen to know what that is? That's a

884
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 4: bang the table guy. So we were banging the table

885
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: for Will Campbell before the draft.

886
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 11: I'd like to hear that.

887
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like to hear. We were all sold on

888
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 4: you being our left tackle, so we're excited about that.

889
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: So guys jumping, I mean, I gotta jump in.

890
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 7: Well, just we watched you last night, right after you

891
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 7: were selected, and we watched you walk to the stage

892
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 7: and you were interviewed briefly and then you got emotional.

893
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 7: I think we've felt the emotion there for you. I mean,

894
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 7: just now we have a little bit of time away

895
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 7: from that.

896
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: What was last night like for you?

897
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: What a whirlwind it all was?

898
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 11: He I mean, it was amazing. I put a lot

899
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 11: of work into, you know, last night, and you know,

900
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 11: for me to be able to hear my name and

901
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 11: hear my name called early and you know, be able

902
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 11: to represent you know this organization, you know, with the

903
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 11: history that's behind this place, the championships, be able to

904
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 11: play for coach Variabel. It's everything I could have asked

905
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 11: for to, you know, be in this best position possible.

906
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 11: And I'm just super excited to get to work, meet

907
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 11: my new teammates, meet all of them, you know, build

908
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 11: that relationship with not only them but the coaches, and

909
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 11: just get back to playing ball.

910
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 5: So I'm trying to wrap my head around Will Campbell.

911
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: How do you describe your play style? I'm violent, nasty,

912
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 5: you know, really physical player and this common measured, you know,

913
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 5: sort of way that you you answer the questions, and

914
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 5: you're really thoughtful and just even killed. How do you

915
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: mix those two things on and off the field. It

916
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 5: seems like your personalities are very different.

917
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: You can see that switch under his armpitch.

918
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 11: Okay, okay, yes, my dad always talked about you got

919
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 11: to be able to flip the switch, be the cool, calm,

920
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 11: collected guy off the field. But whenever it's time to go,

921
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 11: they need to see a different you. And that's just

922
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 11: what I try to do. I try to be the

923
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,280
Speaker 11: guy you know that's just a normal dude off the field.

924
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 11: I'm just like everybody else. I want to, you know,

925
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 11: be able to interact with people. I want people to

926
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 11: you know, know that I'm personable. I can really conversate

927
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 11: with whoever it might be. And but on the field,

928
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 11: you know it's time to go. And that's just kind

929
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 11: of the mentality going.

930
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 4: To try that, Freddy, I'm always Paul goes from zero

931
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 4: to high like that.

932
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 8: We've heard the story now a million times about you

933
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 8: putting Rabel on his butt during the workout, which I love.

934
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 8: But I remember watching your tap against Texas A and

935
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 8: M and you took Nick scoring and you tort them

936
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 8: right out of the gap. He's two hundred and sixty pounds, right,

937
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 8: So when I heard that story about Rabel, I thought

938
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 8: of that block. But is there any other blocks that

939
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 8: stand out to you in your career at LSU that

940
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 8: are some of your favorites or to highlight reels or

941
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 8: anything like that.

942
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 11: I mean, I feel like I had a couple of

943
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 11: good ones. I don't really remember you know each of

944
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 11: them specifically, Yes, you do, not not enough, you know,

945
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 11: but Uliss, she was everything I could have ever asked for,

946
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 11: you know, in a university. I tried to represent it

947
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 11: in the best way possible, and I'm just super thankful

948
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 11: for everything that they did for me and my family,

949
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 11: you know, my three years there, and you know, even

950
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 11: though I'm a long way from Louisiana, I will still

951
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 11: represent the right way.

952
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, forget about football for a second. I want to

953
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: talk about the sporting goods compy store that you've been

954
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 4: in your family for a long time. How cool was

955
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: that growing up? Like you just walk inside, I need

956
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: a new baseball club. And my father owned a hardware store,

957
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: so all I could get was paint, you know.

958
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 11: So you know, yeah, no doubt. I mean, whenever I

959
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 11: would go in and I'd be like, Mom, I need

960
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 11: new shoes, she'd be like, that's not.

961
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: How it worked.

962
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 11: That's how it's working today, you knew, and she would

963
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 11: she would usually take care of me. But yeah, it

964
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 11: was definitely pretty cool. My grandpa started that. I think

965
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 11: he had probably about seven or eight stores now is

966
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 11: down one right down the street from my high school,

967
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 11: probably about three or four minute drive from my house.

968
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 11: My mom, you know, a few other people have been

969
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 11: working there for a long time, so it's pretty cool.

970
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is I think that'd just be cool. And

971
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 4: you get a lot of friends too. Hey, well, can you.

972
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 11: Be all the drama goes out?

973
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 5: Ye?

974
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 11: Hear everything in there.

975
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,479
Speaker 5: The high school stuff. I wanted to ask you about

976
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 5: Andrew Whitworth and your he I think he went to

977
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 5: the same high school. Now we went to Rival okay

978
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 5: Rival High School, but he was someone you really looked

979
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 5: up to, you know, being from your area.

980
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt.

981
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: I think.

982
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 11: You know, whenever you're a young, aspiring offensive lineman and

983
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 11: you know you want to be the best, you look

984
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 11: at guys like him and Cam Robinson, even though they

985
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 11: went to the rival high school that I don't really

986
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 11: care for too much. I'd probably say some vulgar words

987
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 11: about him if we weren't on air, but yeah, I

988
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 11: mean they did it the right way. They went about

989
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 11: their business from a young age in high school to college,

990
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 11: even though Cam went to Alabama. But you know, whenever

991
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 11: you look at guys like that, they've been successful at

992
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,959
Speaker 11: every level that they played at. They've also been great

993
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 11: in the community, and that's something that I wanted to do.

994
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 11: So I really looked up to both of those guys.

995
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 8: Well, you were asked about working with Duke Manniweather this offseason.

996
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 8: Everybody that doesn't know is a very well known offensive

997
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 8: line guru trainer. Just what have you guys been working

998
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:21,720
Speaker 8: on to get ready for your rookie season?

999
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean really just everything. You know, he's the

1000
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 11: best I think, you know, this past offseason or this

1001
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 11: past season, he had eight or nine Pro Bowlers that

1002
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 11: you know he trained specifically. So that's something that I

1003
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 11: want to be a part of any way that you know,

1004
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 11: he can critique my game and help me put the

1005
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 11: best product on the field. It's something that I'm interested

1006
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 11: in every off season. So I've really enjoyed the time

1007
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 11: that I spent with him so far. He's taught me

1008
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 11: a lot, just you know, expanding my game in every aspect,

1009
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 11: and it's something I continue to look forward to.

1010
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 5: I have a quick question for you, you know, kind

1011
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 5: of off the beaten path. We live here in New England.

1012
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 5: We have Boston College, but we don't really have what

1013
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: you guys have in terms of college football. You're in

1014
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: the SEC, which is the NFL of college football. What's

1015
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 5: the best venue besides LSU? What's the best venue if

1016
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 5: I wanted to see if I could go down and

1017
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 5: take a trip to watch a major college football game,

1018
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 5: which I've never really done. What would you recommend?

1019
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 11: Really honestly, you know, every venue in the SEC except

1020
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 11: maybe two or.

1021
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,959
Speaker 5: Three are at Vanderbilts out.

1022
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 11: I'm not going to say anything, but I mean, like,

1023
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 11: I played at some really cool places. The most underrated one,

1024
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 11: I feel like, in my opinion was Auburn at Jordan Hare. Yeah,

1025
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 11: that's a pretty electric environment. Florida has a great environment. Uh,

1026
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 11: Texas A and M. I never played at Tennessee, but

1027
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 11: I kind of figured that Tennessee is probably number two,

1028
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 11: right behind us, and then Kyle Field and then probably

1029
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 11: Bryant Denny Cool.

1030
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 5: So really a lot to choose from.

1031
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you feed off that environment?

1032
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 7: There's so many clips that I've seen of you leading

1033
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 7: the true leading the Tigers out of the locker room,

1034
00:45:58,440 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 7: you know, out of the eye black line, you know,

1035
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 7: going into battle. It just seemed like that really you

1036
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 7: were in your element in those moments.

1037
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 11: Yeah, no doubt. I mean, if if you can run

1038
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 11: out in front of you know, that many people and

1039
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 11: not get some chills on your spine, you're not a

1040
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 11: human being.

1041
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 4: That's what it's about.

1042
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 11: And you know every you know, Saturday, we just want

1043
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 11: to represent the state in the best way that we

1044
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 11: possibly can, you know, just go out there and put

1045
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 11: the best product on the field. And but yeah, I

1046
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 11: mean it's it's amazing. You know, playing an SEC is

1047
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 11: everything I could ask for.

1048
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 4: So are you going right home after this? You're going

1049
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 4: out to dinner tonight? Like, what's what's the plan?

1050
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1051
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 11: We're actually staying here tonight. I can't remember the name

1052
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 11: of the restaurant. It's right here in Patriots Place. I'm

1053
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 11: gonna go where you did.

1054
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 4: If it's Davio's. They make good steak, that's right.

1055
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 11: I actually went there on my thirty visit. That's where

1056
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 11: I'm going. Uh, went there on my thirty visit. They

1057
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 11: tried to get me to try a clam chowder.

1058
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 4: I didn't do it. It's good you should.

1059
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 11: We'll see.

1060
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: Have you had lobster?

1061
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like lobster okay? Oysters? Yeah?

1062
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 11: Okay, all right, but I whenever you know, Bravey, when

1063
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 11: them came down, I put them on some real char

1064
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 11: grilled oysters. There you go, the butter, that cheese, all that.

1065
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 4: Oh all right, Well listen, well, I know it's been

1066
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 4: a long day. We really appreciate you coming in and

1067
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 4: we're really excited about you being a Patriot.

1068
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 11: Yes, sir, I'm super excited.

1069
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 4: Thank you welcome Yeah, thanks, yeah you too. All Right.

1070
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 4: That's Will Campbell. Yeah, he's he's everything they said he's.

1071
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 4: He's a great kid, a.

1072
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 7: Little bit of a serious football guy my SFG rating,

1073
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 7: which I like about him, certainly an offensive football guy.

1074
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: I've had that one for a little bit.

1075
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 7: But I just you can see the switching him of.

1076
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 7: And I was saying to Paul in between the interview

1077
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 7: and coming back on the air, like that guy's got

1078
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 7: to deal with some tough, big, mean dudes.

1079
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 4: Every snap is a battle. Every snap is against.

1080
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 7: The toughest guys that there are in the NFL. I mean,

1081
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 7: a lot of those edge players are among the biggest, fastest,

1082
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 7: meanest guys out there. So you know, I get I

1083
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 7: lot of respect for anybody who's going to go out there.

1084
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: And line up against those kind of guys.

1085
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 7: And he seems like he has the demeanor to deal

1086
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 7: with it and excited. Just love that energy that he's

1087
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 7: going to bring adding it to that offensive line room.

1088
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to get him laughing though.

1089
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: You got them a couple of a little bit, Yeah,

1090
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: a couple.

1091
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 5: Of yeah, you he cracks him up with the bang

1092
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 5: the table. I think he kind of chuckled at that,

1093
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 5: and then you're you're talking about you know, all you

1094
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 5: got was painted and the hard waist. Think you liked

1095
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 5: that one too.

1096
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, so he's going to be a leader in

1097
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: this locker room, I'm sure.

1098
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1099
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 7: The only question I was just curious to ask him

1100
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 7: about it to get a chance was just wearing the

1101
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 7: number seven on his jersey.

1102
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 5: I was going to ask him that too.

1103
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 8: How did I forget that?

1104
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 4: Is that the kid?

1105
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's an explosive playmaker. I think it is

1106
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: a playmaker.

1107
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 5: It started with Patrick Peterson, you know, at LSU, and

1108
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: they have it, you know, a small seven on their uniforms,

1109
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 5: and I just wonder I wanted to ask him, you know,

1110
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 5: sort of the history of it, how rare is it

1111
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 5: is it to get it for an offensive lineman. I

1112
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 5: think he is the first one, you know, and that

1113
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 5: that's kind of what I was interested in. I know

1114
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 5: that they have like a lot of college programs. I

1115
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 5: think the number eighteen is sort of special at LSU

1116
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 5: in terms of you know that the a variety of

1117
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 5: different positions can wear it, but like for an offensive

1118
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 5: linemen to get a playmaker designation has to be kind

1119
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 5: of rare.

1120
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: So, you know, I go back to like the videos

1121
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: that we had early in Brady's career when he was

1122
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 4: just starting out and him going out with the lineman

1123
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 4: and trying to keep up with the lineman drinking and

1124
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 4: all that. There's always been this like perception that the

1125
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 4: linemen hang out together and they go out and they

1126
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: just they drink, right, And I wonder if that's still true,

1127
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: and if this kid is one of those guys who

1128
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 4: like he's, like you said, serious football guy, but when

1129
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 4: it's time to like go out in the bar with

1130
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 4: the friends, like he has a good time. I wonder.

1131
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I'm gonna say.

1132
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 7: For I think some of the case with those kind

1133
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 7: of guys, I feel like, oh, yeah, they're there, they're drinking,

1134
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 7: but you would never know it. They're completely level headed

1135
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 7: as well. He's had twenty five beers and he's just

1136
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 7: sitting there kind of enjoying the music.

1137
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 5: So I'll tell you who he kind of reminds me

1138
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 5: of is Mankins.

1139
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. With his low he

1140
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: like just over and.

1141
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: I was just watch I was just watching Matt. I

1142
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 5: was just watching Matt, you know, you know, punches, punch

1143
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 5: him on the head, you know, just like no, no,

1144
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 5: big woo.

1145
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 4: So okay, good stuff. So while we were doing that,

1146
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 4: we did have some picks here defensive Luther Burdens gone,

1147
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 4: he went to the Bears. Uh and guess who's not gone.

1148
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 4: Sanders is still out there.

1149
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 5: Guess who is gone? Tyler another another quarterback.

1150
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 4: Quarterback went over Sanders. So that's that's is he going

1151
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 4: from legendary to like just pretty good. So what we're

1152
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 4: talking about Sanders, like he calls himself.

1153
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 8: Legend Yeah, I feel like his handling of the pre

1154
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 8: draft process is what's really coming back to bite him.

1155
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 8: I don't think there's anything to do with Dean or

1156
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 8: anything like that necessarily, other than.

1157
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: The fact, either I think if he was really good.

1158
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, other than maybe the fact that Dion is the

1159
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 8: one advising him. You know, he he handled this process

1160
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 8: like he was a top quarterback, like he was Drake

1161
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 8: may or Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels. You know, didn't

1162
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 8: throw at the combine, didn't work out anywhere, threw at

1163
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 8: his pro day, and you know, like all these other

1164
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 8: top quarterbacks do and didn't interview very well. And so

1165
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 8: here we are in the second round, and the other

1166
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 8: Tyler Shook, who's like twenty seven years old or something

1167
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 8: like that, is going ahead of him, whose.

1168
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 5: Dog is very excited that he just got drafted.

1169
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 8: Good for the dog.

1170
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 5: He wanted, he wanted in on the celebration.

1171
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: Good for the dog, Good for good for the dog.

1172
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 8: Tyler Shuk's twenty five years old. I'm sorry I aged

1173
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 8: him a little bit.

1174
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 5: He is one of those six or seven year college.

1175
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 8: Seven year senior.

1176
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he went to the Saints, who

1177
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 5: was another team that needed a quarterback. So listen, I

1178
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 5: don't know about trades and what can happen, but the Jets.

1179
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 5: I suppose the Jets could take a quarterback of the

1180
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 5: future if they're not necessarily sure that Justin Fields is

1181
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 5: going to be there for long. But I don't know.

1182
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 5: There's a lot of teams that would necessarily look at

1183
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 5: this and say I need to take Sanders. Yeah, you

1184
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: could be looking at the third round.

1185
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 4: Isaac writes in Patriots have chosen, But what's your take

1186
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: on Burden versus Henderson. This is my first draft. My

1187
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 4: son happy to have a New Patriot in my family,

1188
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: and thank you for being so amazing. Greetings from Winnipeg.

1189
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 5: I would have been just as happy if they had

1190
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 5: taken Burden, Yeah, I would have. But I really like him.

1191
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: I just wanted offense.

1192
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 5: I want I want playmaker offense. It's not like, you know,

1193
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 5: maybe he can develop into a possession receiver. I wanted

1194
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 5: a playmaker. That's why the more that Mike and Evan

1195
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 5: talked about Jalen Knowle, the more they were selling me

1196
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 5: it's not just like in a nine yard per catch

1197
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 5: slot guy. He's a downfield slot guy. So absolutely, I

1198
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 5: mean I was wrapping my head around that too. I

1199
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 5: wanted a playmaker.

1200
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll see what happens at sixty nine and seventy seven.

1201
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 8: Like I'm not going to come on right now and say,

1202
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 8: what a horrible decision to take Henderson over Burden, because

1203
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 8: they could check Jalen Knowle in the third round or

1204
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 8: Kyle Williams in the third round, which were very similar

1205
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 8: type of players that are going to accomplish similar type

1206
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 8: of things with their skill sets. So we'll see. But

1207
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 8: I think the one thing we were kind of talking

1208
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 8: about this when the interview was going on Paul Is.

1209
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 8: Clearly Luther Burden had something going on with teams behind

1210
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 8: the scenes because he was not the thirty ninth best

1211
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 8: player in the draft. He was a much better player

1212
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 8: than that. So let's just put our thinking caps on

1213
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 8: here for a second and ask ourselves why did he

1214
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 8: fall to thirty nine? Then well, if the Patriots are

1215
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 8: gonna be about culture and they're going to be about

1216
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 8: these things, then that's probably not the type of guy

1217
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 8: that they're going to draft.

1218
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 5: At least not yet.

1219
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 8: They're not right for that yet, right or wrong, Like,

1220
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 8: maybe it will be coming back to bite them that

1221
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 8: they didn't take Burden, but that type of guy clearly

1222
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 8: was not on their board.

1223
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,479
Speaker 5: So you know what I think is funny just looking

1224
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,400
Speaker 5: a couple of things league wide. So you know, we

1225
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 5: talked about and Evan just talked about him sliding a

1226
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 5: little bit because of you know, potentially some character issues.

1227
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 5: He goes to Chicago and you know, there's been a

1228
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: lot of criticism for the Patriots. You know, certainly at

1229
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 5: the end of the Belichick era, they want to win

1230
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 5: every game seventeen thirteen or thirteen ten. Is Rabel doing

1231
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 5: the same thing? You know, all the free agent signings.

1232
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 5: You know most of them are on defense. Well, Ben

1233
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 5: Johnson's trying to win games forty five to forty two. Yeah,

1234
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,720
Speaker 5: you know, he's taken, Colston Loveland, he's taken now, Luther Burden.

1235
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 5: You know, they already had roma Dunes last year with

1236
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 5: the rookie quarterback. They loaded up on their offensive line

1237
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: and free agency. I don't know if they're going to

1238
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: stop anybody, but they're going to be able to score

1239
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 5: some points. With Ben Johnson one of the more creative

1240
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 5: offensive minds and a really good cast of skilled position guys,

1241
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 5: they're going to score. You know. That's the way Detroit

1242
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 5: kind of played last year. Now, part of it was

1243
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 5: because of the injuries on defense, but the defense wasn't

1244
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 5: very good. They got they got out to Leeds, they

1245
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 5: did the old time sort of Patriots thing. They bludgeoned

1246
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 5: you with offense and made their defense look better as

1247
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 5: a result. That's what looks like Chicago's trying to do

1248
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 5: right now. That's what Cincinnati, yeah does So it's different.

1249
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 5: Yeah sort of mindsets.

1250
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: I like those.

1251
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 8: It's fascinating because they did. Two teams just took quarterbacks

1252
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 8: last year right at the top of the draft. So,

1253
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 8: I mean the Bears in the Patriots are. We're in

1254
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 8: the same exact position a year ago, two teams that

1255
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 8: needed quarterbacks, and to Paul's point, they've built it differently,

1256
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 8: and now we'll find out in a year or two

1257
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 8: you know which team is building it correctly. Yeah, it

1258
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 8: can go either way.

1259
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 5: You could put Washington in that mix too. Yeah, they've

1260
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 5: sort of, you know, focused a little bit on trying

1261
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 5: to get some weapons around Jayden Daniels and we'll see

1262
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 5: if it works.

1263
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 8: It's interesting.

1264
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 7: I wonder how much of this, though, is in part

1265
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 7: motivated from Ben Johnson coming from Detroit and being like,

1266
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 7: it's stupid for me to try to think I'm gonna

1267
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 7: stop that offense. I know what they're capable of. I've

1268
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 7: got to play on their terms if I'm going to

1269
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 7: want to beat those guys. But I wonder how it's

1270
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 7: all gonna come together at the receiver position. You know,

1271
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 7: you said said the same thing with Houston. You're seeing

1272
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 7: some of these teams that you might look at on

1273
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 7: the surface and think they got their guys. They seem

1274
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 7: like they got you know, Nico Collins kind of a

1275
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,799
Speaker 7: number one like, but these teams are continuing to try

1276
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 7: to stack wide receivers. And it's clearly a prevalent philosophy

1277
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 7: out there amongst NFL teams that you can never have

1278
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 7: too much explosiveness at wide receiver. And I mean, I

1279
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 7: think it speaks to a lot of what we've talked

1280
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 7: about with the Patriots, and you know, philosophically, what directions

1281
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 7: should they go. Some teams, clearly though, are are taking

1282
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 7: that very seriously and they're hoarding it.

1283
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 5: I just I like to look at different ways because

1284
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: I get annoyed with what you got to build in

1285
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: the trenches. Or now you need a strong defense. If

1286
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 5: you can't stop anybody, you can't win. Defense wins championship.

1287
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 5: Or maybe we're just gonna try to we know we

1288
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: have problems on defense, We're gonna try to compensate with just,

1289
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 5: you know, explosiveness everywhere. I think there's a lot of

1290
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 5: different ways to win.

1291
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1292
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 5: Now I'm not telling you one ways, right, because I

1293
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 5: think there's a lot of different ways to win championships.

1294
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I mean it's easy to see Bill Belichick

1295
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 7: might be in that position and say and really relish

1296
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 7: the challenge of I got to try to slow this

1297
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 7: Detroit offense down.

1298
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: How am I going to build the defense too?

1299
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 5: You know, good pick for the Jets. Who they get

1300
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 5: Mason Taylor. Yeah, that's a good pick for them. Yeah, No,

1301
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 5: you don't like Mason Taylor, He's fine.

1302
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 4: Well, if you're trying to buy a car because he's

1303
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 4: a Jet And if you want to see Toyota's best offers,

1304
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 4: including those not seen on TV, go to buy a

1305
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 4: Toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official website for deals from

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Speaker 4: the official vehicle the New England Patriots, Toyota. Let's go places.

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Speaker 1: Oh, there we go, We're back. Yeah, all right.

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00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: And you know what's easy bud Light. Yep, it's easy

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00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 4: to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light, the official

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00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. So Mason Taylor

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00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 4: tight end goes to the Jets.

1312
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 8: Yeah. I liked Mason Taylor. I feel like he was

1313
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 8: a little bit overhyped. You know, there was a lot

1314
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 8: of conversation about him potentially going in the first round.

1315
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 8: But looking back on you know where I had him

1316
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 8: like this is this is a good spot for the

1317
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 8: Jets to.

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00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 5: Take for your second round.

1319
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is about where he probably should have gone.

1320
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 8: There was a lot of conversations about him going higher

1321
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 8: than this, and I thought he got a little bit

1322
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 8: overrated during the process. But this is a good spot

1323
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 8: for him. What I do like about him is just

1324
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 8: a natural hands catcher and really good straight line speed.

1325
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 8: But you see him go through that gauntlet drill at

1326
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 8: the combine and it was like, that's you put that

1327
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 8: on the teach tape of how you run that drill.

1328
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 8: So he's got a lot of natural talents, obviously got

1329
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 8: the bloodlines. So good player, good good draft so far

1330
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 8: for the Jets. Membu Mason Taylor not a bad haul

1331
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 8: so far for that.

1332
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 4: Adam from Louisiana says, as an LSU alumni, I'm well

1333
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 4: versed on the numbers, meaning for the football team, seven

1334
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 4: represents the best playmaker on the team. It has generally

1335
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 4: gone to a wide receiver defensive back. It has never

1336
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 4: gone to alignment before Campbell. Number eighteen is given to

1337
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 4: the leaders of the team. Going back to quarterback Matt

1338
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 4: malk In two thousand and three, you go, but basically

1339
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 4: everything you said, but now it's confirmed. Spiin Fresno, right, sin,

1340
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 4: can we put a hold on accepting Evan Scornsky argument

1341
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 4: at face value, Paul wilted into Evan's soft lawnmower free

1342
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 4: hands too easily. While it's a thoughtful, intriguing possibility to pose,

1343
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 4: I like some verification that coaches are really not giving

1344
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 4: these measurably challenged college tackles adequate shots at that position

1345
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 4: before shoving them into the guard role. It seems just

1346
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 4: as plausible that those guys aren't living up to their

1347
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 4: tackle billing in pro practice situations. Need more evidence and

1348
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 4: definitely need more frothing at the mouth counter arguments from

1349
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 4: the former fattest man in town.

1350
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 8: Oh, I think that was a compliment.

1351
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1352
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 5: I just want to state it for the record. Now

1353
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 5: I'm getting made fun of for not arguing enough.

1354
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 8: Right and also for being skinny.

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00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: Paul.

1356
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 5: I don't mind the skinny because I'm still not skinny,

1357
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 5: but I'm getting in front of for not arguing enough.

1358
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 5: No one's ever said that.

1359
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 4: To me before. Al from Wisconsin Times like this. I'm

1360
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 4: so thankful for Fred. You guys spend five minutes talking

1361
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 4: about the guy the Seahawks picked, only for Fred to

1362
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 4: immediately chime in and say.

1363
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 5: So, do we know who the Seahawks pick, so Henderson

1364
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 5: was the fourth running back taken. Right, there was two

1365
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 5: in the first round and then the two Ohio State

1366
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 5: guys tonight.

1367
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, yeah, I had Henderson real quick. I had

1368
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 8: him as my running back three. I had him and

1369
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 8: Henderson and Judkins were really close for me. I thought

1370
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 8: both those guys were. It's a flavor thing, you know.

1371
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 8: I preferred the speed in the big playability. But if

1372
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 8: you preferred the power and the angry run ability, as

1373
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 8: Deuce's friend Kyle Brand likes to say, then you know,

1374
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 8: Judkins is more your flavor. But I thought both those

1375
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 8: guys were a top of the second round. I had

1376
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 8: Henderson thirty second on my board and the Patriots picked

1377
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 8: him at thirty eight, so they I thought they got

1378
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 8: pretty good value with the pick here. But yeah, I

1379
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 8: had him as a top four running back and they

1380
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 8: took him as the fourth running back.

1381
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: Joe in Darkness says, stop tipping picks. I want to

1382
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 4: listen to your stream, but this is a buzzkill, Like, well,

1383
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 4: so if you're listening to us, you're getting it, Like, like,

1384
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 4: what else are you doing that we're ruining right now?

1385
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 5: I don't understand how that's tipic, Like, if you're listening,

1386
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 5: I don't know this. This argument has never made sense.

1387
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 4: To Like what if you're saying, I want to wait

1388
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 4: until the commit or you know, the TV announces it, So.

1389
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 5: Why don't you go with the commit the commissioner for

1390
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 5: tipping picks right? If you're finding out for the first time,

1391
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 5: it's not tipped right. Why do you care where you're

1392
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 5: finding out for the first time?

1393
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: Like, if you're listening to us, where your source?

1394
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 5: Like if if we would if we were watching a

1395
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 5: game right now and you were watching the game on

1396
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 5: TV and we were there alive and we were telling

1397
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 5: you what happened in the game before you're seeing it,

1398
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 5: that's tipping what's happening? You get like, that's ruining it.

1399
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 5: I get it. Yeah, you're hearing information for the first time.

1400
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 5: Why do you care where.

1401
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 4: We get it for the first where the like why

1402
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: can't we be your source?

1403
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 8: I also just think it's hard for us to have

1404
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 8: a show and then to put the show on halt

1405
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 8: to follow the TV. We would still be on the

1406
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 8: you know, five picks ago if we were matching up

1407
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 8: with the TV. So to keep the show moving, we

1408
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 8: kind of have to tell you what's going.

1409
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 4: But I'm open to like the reason why this is

1410
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 4: ruining it for you? I don't understand, because like, if

1411
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 4: you're listening to us, we're now your source to stick

1412
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 4: with us.

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01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so it got to be listening along while

1414
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 6: watching and just here.

1415
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 4: But like, what are you getting from watching that makes it? So?

1416
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 4: What is that? Why is it better to find out

1417
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 4: there than here?

1418
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know.

1419
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: I'm asking you know, I don't know.

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01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I, like I said, if if we were

1421
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 5: ruining something that you didn't know was come, Like, so

1422
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,959
Speaker 5: we scored a touchdown and you don't know we score

1423
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 5: a touchdown because you're watching on TV and we just

1424
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 5: ruined it for you, right, I totally get that.

1425
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 10: I don't.

1426
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 5: I don't know what's the difference of Roger Goodell tells

1427
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 5: you who.

1428
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 4: Kush and you're in your example, we're ruining the action

1429
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: for you. There's no action, you know, like the action

1430
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: is the this is the actions? The action's right here?

1431
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 8: What's that from?

1432
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 7: I was going crazy when we're waiting for this pick

1433
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 7: to come in because I didn't see it on our

1434
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 7: slack channels.

1435
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: I didn't see I wasn't looking at Twitter, like I

1436
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: had no idea.

1437
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 5: I didn't know.

1438
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: The show just kind of grinds to a hall for

1439
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, a minute.

1440
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 5: Evan, Evan got it. What did you get it on Twitter?

1441
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1442
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I hadn't seen it on my feed, so

1443
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 5: I didn't know. I learned it from watching.

1444
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: I learned it from watching you.

1445
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 8: Well, that's just my point, Like you know, Due just said,

1446
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 8: the show grinds to a halt, like if we just

1447
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 8: sit here and wait for the pick to be an

1448
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 8: ass on TV, and we're gonna be sitting here twiddling

1449
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 8: our thumbs in between all these picks.

1450
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 5: Children who drew drugs have parents.

1451
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 4: Who right there it is.

1452
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 5: It just comes out, and it's the other way around.

1453
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 5: The parents are just.

1454
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: Like I can make an ocean wave way. It's like

1455
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:49,439
Speaker 1: the television from.

1456
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 5: The eighties just built balk like a penguin.

1457
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 4: From Burlington, Ontario rights in. He said, you guys, give

1458
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 4: me eighteen vibes or ocean eight, Ocean eight, like Crew

1459
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 4: Paul's face in or Brad Pitt.

1460
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 8: Oh geez, oh wow wow.

1461
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 5: If I had known that I was going to get

1462
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 5: to the action, I done lost waye long ago.

1463
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 4: Fred Is Hannibal for George Clooney, Wow, take it. Evan

1464
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 4: is Murdoch or Matt Damon.

1465
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 5: Means a lot less now George.

1466
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 4: Evan is Murdoch or Matt Damon and Mike is be

1467
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 4: a baracas for jet Lee except I think you all

1468
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 4: talk Fred out of a tucks this year. Anyway, I

1469
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 4: think Cleveland is trying to tank for Manning next year.

1470
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 4: That's why they're taking solid role players who aren't win now, guys. Plus,

1471
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 4: they got the Jags picked next year and that might

1472
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 4: be number two again.

1473
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 5: Oh see. I think the Jags are probably going to

1474
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 5: be okay. But I do think that there's some validity

1475
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 5: to they're playing for the quarterback next year.

1476
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 4: I think he's right, could be and I don't you know.

1477
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 4: Now it's dangerous though, it's very dangerous.

1478
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 5: And Evan's point is, you know, like Berry and Stefanski

1479
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 5: might not be around to do that, so it is

1480
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:01,520
Speaker 5: the roll of the dice. But I, as a.

1481
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: Rock would just get taken Yeah by Dallas, good pick.

1482
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 5: I think there is risk that I think Everyan is

1483
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 5: correct in that, but I feel like they really believe

1484
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 5: in Stefanski.

1485
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah they do, I know, you know, and I mean.

1486
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 5: Two years removed from going to the playoffs without a quarterback, right,

1487
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 5: you know who's to say, can he Pickett and Joe

1488
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 5: Flaggo can't hold it together for a year and have

1489
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 5: them win nine or ten games. Yeah, I don't think

1490
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 5: that will happen. I'm not predicting that by any chance,

1491
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 5: by any means, but it could.

1492
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 8: I just think that. You know, my whole thing was

1493
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 8: with Cleveland first of all, Like, no one knows if

1494
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 8: arch Manning is any good. Like arch Manning hasn't played

1495
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 8: any college.

1496
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 5: But no one knows if arch Manning is going to

1497
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 5: come out of the draft. It's not uncommon for the

1498
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 5: Mannings to stay or.

1499
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 8: Even be good.

1500
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 4: Like he's more money.

1501
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 8: He's played one game at Texas, full game against I

1502
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 8: forget which team it was, but it's like Texas. Yeah,

1503
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 8: like one of those Like I'm pretty sure he's going

1504
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 8: to be good. He might be good, but he might

1505
01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 8: not be We don't know.

1506
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 5: There's no guarantees.

1507
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 8: Hey, there's no guarantees. So I don't think any team

1508
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 8: is preparing like, oh, like next year is like the

1509
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 8: Andrew Luck or the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, and we're going

1510
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 8: to get in on that and if I was Cleveland.

1511
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't mean necessarily a notch maning. I'm saying

1512
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 5: they're going to be in position to get the best quarterback, right.

1513
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 8: But do they want to put that quarterback in a

1514
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 8: position to succeed and like draft players this year to

1515
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 8: set up that quarterback in twenty six. I don't like there.

1516
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 5: I definitely don't like the Mason Graham pick, right, you know,

1517
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 5: and I would have taken Anderson and not Judkins. Yeah,

1518
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 5: but that's just my that's why they've made bad picks.

1519
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 5: I don't think that their strategy has been bad. If

1520
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: that makes sense, Yeah, that that made me makes sense.

1521
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 8: I just if you take Travis Hunter, like, yeah, the

1522
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 8: brown he probably doesn't make the Browns a winner overnight.

1523
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 8: But now when you draft the quarterback in twenty six,

1524
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 8: you're drafting him to throw the ball to Travis Hunter.

1525
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 8: So because you already have that piece in place, you

1526
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 8: can't throw the ball to Mason Graham.

1527
01:06:56,120 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 5: But what they're trying to do is increased their odds

1528
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 5: to be able to get that quarterback next year. Taking

1529
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 5: Travis Hunter. That leads you only one opportunity you'll pick.

1530
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 5: They're trying to up the possibility, Like if if we're

1531
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 5: not in position to get that quarterback, now we have

1532
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 5: two picks to get in position to get that quarterback.

1533
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 4: Right.

1534
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 5: That's what I think was part of I don't hate

1535
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 5: the trade. I still and I know that. I mean,

1536
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 5: am in the vast minority. Everybody is with Evan on

1537
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 5: Jacksonville made a great move. I think Jacksonville will actually

1538
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 5: be decent. I don't think that that's a that's a

1539
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 5: team that had a bad record last year. Everything that

1540
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 5: could go wrong did. I don't think that that's a

1541
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 5: bad team. I really don't. And I think it put

1542
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 5: a couple of things in place, and if Liam Cohen

1543
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 5: knows what he's doing, he can fix Trevor Lawrence. I

1544
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 5: don't think it's out of the Roman possibility. They win

1545
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 5: nine or ten games and they compete for the AFC

1546
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 5: Cell title. I don't think that that's crazy.

1547
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: The Boston College Edge Ezeraku went to the Cowboys.

1548
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 8: A nice picked by them. You like this guy, yeah,

1549
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 8: I do like Jt're going to try to pronounce his

1550
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 8: last name. Yeah, heavy handed? You know stout edge defender,

1551
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 8: a good athlete, really good college football playoff performance and

1552
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 8: against six sacks in the College Football Playoff. Throughout the

1553
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 8: couple games that they played, I really liked him a lot.

1554
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 8: I thought that he would be on the Patriots radar.

1555
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 8: You know a lot of people obviously think that the

1556
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 8: Patriots are going to draft Jack Sawyer. I kind of

1557
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 8: thought that JT was a better player than than Jack Sawyer.

1558
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 5: I totally agree.

1559
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I don't know if the Patriots thought that.

1560
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 8: But I thought he I had a higher grade on.

1561
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 5: So the other guy I wanted to get your thoughts

1562
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 5: on because AFC East is TJ. Sanders.

1563
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,919
Speaker 8: Yeah, so t J Sanders, you know, penetrating three technique,

1564
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 8: you know, a little bit of a one of those,

1565
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 8: you know, Milton Williams types of players. Yeah, Ed Oliver

1566
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,720
Speaker 8: maybe you know that's kind of like the top of

1567
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 8: that archetype, you know, if you will. But I thought

1568
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 8: he was a sturdy player. I thought he had some long,

1569
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 8: long arms. I can think he can shoot gaps. I

1570
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 8: think you can penetrate the line of scrimmage, do that

1571
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 8: type of stuff. But I also think he can win

1572
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 8: with power and win with speed. To pick for Buffalo,

1573
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 8: I think this is a better pick than their first

1574
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 8: round pick. Yeah, I got Sanders was a pretty solid

1575
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 8: player and it fits there for three. You know, whether

1576
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 8: they play him a three technique or or the one shade.

1577
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 8: Either way, I think that he's going to be a

1578
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 8: pretty good player for them.

1579
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 4: Andrew in La says, please stop talking about the draft.

1580
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 4: I want to talk about Dev's batting average. This is

1581
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 4: a caller on Coller crime.

1582
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 5: I'm here for Coller on Coller Crime.

1583
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 4: I love it.

1584
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 5: I would also say, at the risk of I'm going

1585
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 5: to knock on wood here, I'm appreciating that the pick

1586
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 5: seemed to be coming at a pretty good clip.

1587
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, Terrence Ferguson, what is it seven minutes this round?

1588
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 5: I believe it's seven minutes this round, and then it

1589
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 5: goes down to five.

1590
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: We're already like on pick fifteen.

1591
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, we're about halfway through, almost halfway through the

1592
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 5: round or hour.

1593
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 4: Ethan in La says, anyone listening to this live, why

1594
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 4: are you listening to anything else? Keep tipping the picks.

1595
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to wait the extra two minutes for

1596
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:01,840
Speaker 4: the pick to be told.

1597
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: Fair enough, that's and.

1598
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,679
Speaker 4: Joe says, yes I am. I follow up by yes,

1599
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 4: I am watching the broadcast and listening to you. Uh.

1600
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 4: The answer to Fred's questions, it's fun, okay, well, and

1601
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 4: Norman says, I disagree with anyone annoyed by tipping picks.

1602
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 4: I want to know as soon as possible. You guys

1603
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 4: are doing a great job, keep it up, best draft

1604
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 4: coverage without a doubt.

1605
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 5: I just would need a BIB for Fred. But I

1606
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 5: would just wonder, like I like Fred, I think you

1607
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 5: put it perfectly. I don't really understand if we're telling

1608
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 5: you what the pick is, why that's considered tipping.

1609
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 4: It, all right, But because that's not action.

1610
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 5: Tipping the pick would be like we knew an we

1611
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 5: knew an hour ago.

1612
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: I start the pagers are gonna pick tonight.

1613
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 4: On the other hand, Dan says, the drama of hearing

1614
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 4: the stage announced the pick is on the TV broadcast

1615
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,719
Speaker 4: is much more entertaining than hearing one of you guys

1616
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 4: blurt out the pick randomly. It's just the way it is.

1617
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 4: I'm wanted to mute you guys for a couple of

1618
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 4: minutes before pick is in fair enough.

1619
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: Maybe were pump pumping, stir circumstance when we announced the picks.

1620
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 4: Then you know, I like this one. Joe says, I

1621
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 4: can't explain what you're doing is tipping picks. I just

1622
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 4: know I don't want to hear it from Deuce first,

1623
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 4: something about his face.

1624
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 5: It's just punishable.

1625
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: Just kidding. I love dudes. I'm just writing to take

1626
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 4: credit for paul Is losing weight months ago, and also

1627
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 4: to say there's no shot. Tides was a higher rated

1628
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 4: show that was a Day three joint. That's true, that's true.

1629
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 1: Was it day three that?

1630
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1631
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1632
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 7: I was in the middle of the draft party that

1633
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 7: was day one because people were looking at you guys like,

1634
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 7: are you crazy. I've heard the story.

1635
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 8: I'm not heard yelling at each other.

1636
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: This is supposed this is supposed to be a draft party.

1637
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 1: We're having fun. Yeah, they're yelling about Tides.

1638
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, so a lot of people tipping picks, tipping picks.

1639
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 1: Maybe we just put a warning up before we tip anything.

1640
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,000
Speaker 4: Harvey and Maine, what are we going to do about

1641
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 4: wide receiver? Do we move up a bit or wait

1642
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 4: until sixty nine and seventy seven? Seems to me like

1643
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 4: we're waiting a bit too long.

1644
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 8: We'll see. I think that, you know, one of the

1645
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 8: things that they were they were trying to prioritize from

1646
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,559
Speaker 8: all the reporting that we heard is you know, players

1647
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 8: that play outside the numbers at wide receiver. They wanted

1648
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 8: to get a bigger you know what, a Paul's guy.

1649
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 8: It's a bigger X receiver. Some of they can play

1650
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 8: out outside the numbers and compliment what they have was

1651
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:29,919
Speaker 8: Stefon Diggs and the Mario Douglas and those types of players.

1652
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 8: You know, Trey Harris from Ole, miss is probably the

1653
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 8: best player in that mold. That's still on the board.

1654
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 8: Jalen Knowle still on the board as well. Jack betch

1655
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 8: is still on the board. Kyle Williams still on the board.

1656
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 8: You know a lot of people like Jalen Royals from

1657
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 8: Utah State. He's also still available. So there's still wide

1658
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 8: receiver talent available. I don't think that that's a there's

1659
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 8: any reason yet to be worried that they're going to

1660
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 8: miss the boat on adding someone with some upside and

1661
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,599
Speaker 8: some talent. If they draft Kyle Williams at sixty nine,

1662
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 8: we're all going to be happy. So let's just wait

1663
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:00,599
Speaker 8: and see what happens.

1664
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: You got to defense already, Evan, Can we have some

1665
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 1: for the defense please?

1666
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:07,000
Speaker 5: I mean how many? Well sign how much?

1667
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 10: How much.

1668
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 8: For these defensive guys I need like seven edge rushers.

1669
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 8: Like now you'll have your three, and you'll.

1670
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 5: Be got a lot more.

1671
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,720
Speaker 8: But I always kind of felt like this would maybe

1672
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 8: be how the board fell at edge, because there's gonna

1673
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 8: there's so many talented edge rushers in this class that

1674
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,960
Speaker 8: your third fourth round range you can still get a

1675
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 8: guy that you feel like has some developmental upside and

1676
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 8: starter upside. Or maybe it's a guy that's more specialized,

1677
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 8: you know, like a pass rush specialist, like a Jusiah

1678
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:39,719
Speaker 8: Stewart from Everett, Massachusetts and also from Michigan. Like maybe

1679
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 8: it's one of those types of players where it's okay,

1680
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 8: we're envisioning him in a third down role instead of

1681
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 8: a full time role, but you're still so much talent

1682
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 8: on the board of that particular position that I do

1683
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 8: think you can get one sixty nine, seventy seven, one

1684
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:52,959
Speaker 8: oh six even.

1685
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be okay with that.

1686
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 7: Like I think even the not Joshua specifically, but that

1687
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,559
Speaker 7: josh type where maybe you don't work out as a

1688
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 7: three down layer, but you can come in and bring

1689
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 7: some juice on third down. So we don't have I mean,

1690
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 7: you can't rely on Harold Landry and claveon Chase on

1691
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 7: to play all three downs. You know, they need some

1692
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 7: other rotational piece there, preferably some young, lively.

1693
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: Legs that they can get off to the edge and

1694
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: get off to the quarterback.

1695
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 5: We're going to really have to remember Josiah Stewart because

1696
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 5: he's going to be the last one. Yeah, it would

1697
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 5: be my last. Every guy for a while.

1698
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:24,600
Speaker 1: Really, No, that was when you stopped coaching in the

1699
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: town and at the town level.

1700
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 5: Just I never coached any of these boys.

1701
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 4: I'll just recruited as far as you know. Let's see

1702
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 4: eight five five past five hundred is the hotline. Let's

1703
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 4: go to it. Sean's and Vancouver. What's up, Sean?

1704
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 5: Sure on?

1705
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 12: Hey everyone, happy draft?

1706
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 4: Thanks for holding on.

1707
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, thanks, no problem. As Mike, as you're saying earlier,

1708
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 12: you know, you didn't want it to be like a

1709
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,720
Speaker 12: draft the last two years where we picked well in

1710
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 12: the first round, player that everyone thought you should and

1711
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 12: then it kind of fell off in there. It seems like, now, no,

1712
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 12: that's not the case. We got something in the second

1713
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,800
Speaker 12: round who has a lot of ups I who thinks

1714
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 12: like one of the players that probably fell to us.

1715
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 13: So that's that's a good thing.

1716
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 12: And and the other thing that I look at is

1717
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 12: the free agency. I mean, before well this offseason, there

1718
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 12: were thirteen real needs for this team, and not to

1719
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 12: say they filled them all, but it looks like they

1720
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 12: at least addressed eleven of them. And the other two

1721
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 12: needs you can get late Saturday night full back and

1722
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 12: kick her. So right now, it's all about building.

1723
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 5: Did I miss the wide receiver fillings?

1724
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: Say it again, well, Sean, you said the two needs

1725
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 4: are kicker in full back.

1726
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, those are the receiver well guards, so that at

1727
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,920
Speaker 12: least I'm not saying they then they at least dressed

1728
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 12: it right. So yeah, I like that, Like maybe Noel

1729
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 12: will be there in the third round and that's that's

1730
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 12: just the player i'd like to get.

1731
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 5: If you still there, Oh okay, I missed that part.

1732
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:51,839
Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

1733
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 12: No, I wasn't getting there, but yeah, I've not you. Yeah,

1734
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 12: you could get players that are going to help your

1735
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 12: team that aren't huge need, and you know you can

1736
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:05,280
Speaker 12: get the kicker and the fullback and undrafted for you.

1737
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if thanks Sean,

1738
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if fullbacks a need and or if

1739
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 4: it's even on the table of a position on the team.

1740
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 4: I hope it is a lot of people are assuming,

1741
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 4: you know, if Rash McDaniels and he likes using a

1742
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 4: full back, but Will Johnson, I don't know. I don't

1743
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 4: know about that. Oh Will Johnson just went Okay, I

1744
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 4: don't either.

1745
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,519
Speaker 7: I would say that if they had heavy plans for

1746
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 7: a fullback, there probably would already be one on the roster.

1747
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 7: You're not going to wait to draft a Day two

1748
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 7: or three full back and expect that person to be

1749
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 7: a significant part of the offense. Look at how long

1750
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 7: it took James Devlin to even like break into that role.

1751
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 7: It's there would be a veteran. I think I think

1752
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 7: they're gonna just go for it with what they got.

1753
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 1: I don't think the fullback's coming back.

1754
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,559
Speaker 8: If they if they really are looking at true full

1755
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 8: backs like Yakub Johnson, James Devon, like you, those guys

1756
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 8: go undrafted, like you can get that.

1757
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 5: Guy in the That's what Sean was saying. You're a

1758
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 5: kicker in a full back and you get them as undrafted.

1759
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:03,720
Speaker 8: In the seventh round. I mean, I think right now,

1760
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 8: you know you look, you're still looking at wide receiver.

1761
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 8: Is the obvious one. I still think you gotta tap

1762
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 8: that class at some point right on the.

1763
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: Edge, ducee, Like, at some point class you gotta.

1764
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 8: Add a defensive lineman and a loaded group like this,

1765
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 8: you want to do that, and then I think that

1766
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 8: you're you could add another offensive lineman guard guard, you know,

1767
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 8: but you have three more picks in the top one hundred,

1768
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 8: you know, right, So so those picks like.

1769
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 5: Would be sixty nine, seventy seven and one oh six.

1770
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: It's the top one hundred, pick seven, we got the

1771
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: top one hundred.

1772
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,519
Speaker 8: Well, you know that somebody that is in the top

1773
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 8: one hundred is probably going to slide a little bit,

1774
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 8: because somebody always does.

1775
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 5: That's good people.

1776
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 8: So I will say that they made a top one

1777
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 8: hundred pick when they picked somebody in my top one hundred.

1778
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 5: It's my charge exactly. It's like when Parcels used to

1779
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 5: say about going for two, is that that's not what

1780
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 5: the chart says. It's my chart. How do you know

1781
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 5: what my chart says?

1782
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 4: Owen's a dublin, Hey, Owen.

1783
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 2: Dublin.

1784
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:08,160
Speaker 14: Fred?

1785
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 5: How are you doing good?

1786
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 13: How are you guys?

1787
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 15: Listen? Long time, long time listener and.

1788
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 16: Make twenty five years so to listen to you guys, and.

1789
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 15: Then I'd like to ask a couple of questions. Really,

1790
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 15: I'm kind of happy with happy with the pick. Was

1791
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 15: I'm a bit worried that Evan thinks that he's going

1792
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,480
Speaker 15: to need somebody to hold his hands on the outside.

1793
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 8: With Will Campbell you're talking about yes.

1794
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 15: Well obviously, well we only picked one player, now, Evan

1795
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 15: the first round.

1796
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I got you.

1797
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 15: Do you know what I mean?

1798
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 8: I mean?

1799
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 15: Should should he have to have somebody to hold his

1800
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 15: hand on the outside?

1801
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 8: You mean like chipping and stuff like that.

1802
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: We talked about last night's number four in the draft.

1803
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, now I hear what you're saying. Oh, and

1804
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 4: I you know, like you're saying, if you're going to

1805
01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 4: take him forth, like just get him in there and play,

1806
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 4: and if you have to do all this, Yeah.

1807
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 15: I think he should be able to do that. Still, Fredge,

1808
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 15: you know what I mean? Yeah, shouldn't somebody to hold

1809
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 15: his hand?

1810
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1811
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:08,799
Speaker 5: I think, Well I'm not forever.

1812
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I look, I don't know if he'll necessarily need it.

1813
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 8: I'm just saying that they're the way. The point I

1814
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 8: was trying to make with that is that there are

1815
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 8: ways to schematically help the tackles, right, there are there

1816
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 8: are ways to do that that aren't a total detrimental

1817
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,600
Speaker 8: to your offense, whether it's chipping you know, at the

1818
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 8: backs and the tight ends or whatever the case may be.

1819
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 8: And when I don't care if he's the fourth overall

1820
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,920
Speaker 8: pick or the fortieth overall pick, when you're a rookie

1821
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 8: offensive tackle in the NFL and you're, you know, going

1822
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 8: Week one and you're facing you know, an all pro

1823
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 8: edge rusher potentially coming off the edge, like he's a

1824
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 8: he's a twenty one year old kid that's never played

1825
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 8: in the NFL before, Like he's gonna need to have

1826
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 8: some you know, dipping the toes in the water here.

1827
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 8: We're not going to just put him in the in

1828
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 8: the deep end and hope that he sinks like or swims.

1829
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 5: You know that.

1830
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 8: To me, that's what good coaching staffs avoid. They good

1831
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 8: coaching staffs coach around that. They they help guys, And.

1832
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: I get it, but I get what I want to say.

1833
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 4: If we're halfway through the season and we're constantly needing.

1834
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 8: To te okay, go ahead.

1835
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 15: But nobody did anything like that last year to move

1836
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 15: anybody around, And there's a compete disaster. So do we

1837
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 15: think the coaching was so bad last year?

1838
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 4: I think that was part of the problem, But I

1839
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 4: also think.

1840
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:22,599
Speaker 15: That I mean, I understand we've got way better coaching

1841
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 15: this year, but it's going to improve that movement and

1842
01:20:25,760 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 15: the blocking so much better now.

1843
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the coaching was bad last year. I

1844
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 4: think the talent wasn't up to par. I think your

1845
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 4: overall thing, though, I hear what you're saying. If we're

1846
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 4: halfway through the season and we're constantly having to chip

1847
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 4: keep in a tight end Max protect because there's a

1848
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 4: deficiency there, then that's a problem. But I think it's worth.

1849
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 4: I think this guy's worth, you know, doing whatever we

1850
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 4: can to make him succeed, because if he ends up

1851
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 4: being your left tackle for ten years, it'll be worth

1852
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 4: this early type of help that you have to give him.

1853
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying you're gonna have. Like I was

1854
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 4: watching a thing with him on Twitter today where he

1855
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 4: was analyzing his own game with somebody and he was

1856
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 4: actually breaking down his own tape. I mean, he knows

1857
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 4: what he's doing out there. Yeah, and he knows what

1858
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 4: he needs to do, even though even if right now

1859
01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 4: he needs to work on some things.

1860
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, I hear Owen's point about he's a fourth overall

1861
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 8: picture and he'd be good enough to just do it

1862
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 8: on his own. But I think in this league, these

1863
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 8: pass rushers are extremely talented players, and there aren't a

1864
01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 8: lot of tackles that do it on their own for

1865
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 8: four straight quarters and have no help and have no

1866
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 8: schematic tweaks or you know, tricks of the trade when

1867
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 8: they first get in the league.

1868
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 5: Right, I was just gonna say, like, if you're gonna

1869
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 5: on one hand, say that they were pully coached last year,

1870
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 5: and then on the other hand, you're going to say, well,

1871
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 5: they can't, you know, try to help them this year. Well,

1872
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 5: that's part of the reason why that I didn't think

1873
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 5: they were well coached last year is because they too

1874
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 5: often just put them out there and left them on

1875
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 5: islands and they weren't good enough to do it that.

1876
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,759
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if they were pully coached

1877
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 5: in terms of teaching techniques and teaching, but like when

1878
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 5: it came time to solve a problem in a game,

1879
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 5: they seem powerless to do it. They're asking like Demontra

1880
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,440
Speaker 5: Jacobs to block Nick Bosa as an example in San Francisco.

1881
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,200
Speaker 5: That's asking for trouble. That to me is why they

1882
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,400
Speaker 5: were let down by the coaching. Not because Scott Peters

1883
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 5: didn't know how to teach the you know, hand placement

1884
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 5: of you know, the punch and all that kind of stuff.

1885
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,720
Speaker 5: I'm sure you know, I'm I'm sure he understood, you know,

1886
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 5: the fundamentals of blocking. I just think schematically, they had

1887
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 5: problems and they didn't adjust to them. I think Josh

1888
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 5: McDaniels will do a better job of that.

1889
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 8: That's the point I'm making as well. I don't think

1890
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 8: it's as much of a knock to say that, oh,

1891
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 8: if you're facing Nick Bosa in his third career, start

1892
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 8: that maybe we'll send the tight end over there and

1893
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 8: have him chip him on the way out into the

1894
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 8: pattern every once in a while to try to help

1895
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 8: him out. Like that's what smart coaching staffs do.

1896
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 5: There was a game that Houston, oh they got uh.

1897
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 1: Waited till the NFL announced it.

1898
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 5: Good job, Mike. But there was one specific game sort

1899
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 5: of later in the year here at home where I

1900
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 5: think Lowe had to leave the game and number seventy two,

1901
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 5: whose name is escaping me right now, how to go

1902
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 5: in for him.

1903
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 8: Is that Zach Thomas.

1904
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 5: Zach Thomas's yeah, he was here for like and it

1905
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 5: was like they were lining up at the batrack for

1906
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 5: a chance to rush the passer against him and there's

1907
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 5: no help Like that's I don't look at that as

1908
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 5: a negative for the player. I look at that as

1909
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 5: lack of adjusting from the coaching staff.

1910
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 4: Right, it's very you know, I remember back in the day,

1911
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 4: there would we'd go against certain teams that had known

1912
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 4: sack artists. Clay Matthews is an example for the Packers,

1913
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 4: and I remember Belichick would say, we're just not going

1914
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 4: to let him beat us today. He's not going to

1915
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 4: rate a guy. They would have it didn't let kill Right,

1916
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 4: they'd have a special plan for Clay Matthews or JJ

1917
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 4: Watt that included whatever, chipping, leaving guys in, you know,

1918
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 4: giving help.

1919
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 17: In.

1920
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 4: It worked.

1921
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll give you another example.

1922
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 4: But if you just leave the guy out there, he's

1923
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,560
Speaker 4: gonna like, these guys are gonna win sometimes.

1924
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, as you guys would know

1925
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 8: better than me, Like Matt Light had a ton of

1926
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 8: trouble with Jason Taylor, like had a lot I had

1927
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 8: a ton of trouble with Jason Taylor. And I don't

1928
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 8: think I'm saying anything love Matt.

1929
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 5: I'd like to tell you exactly what Jason Taylor did

1930
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 5: to give Matt Light trouble. But any anytime those games happened,

1931
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,439
Speaker 5: I never got to talk to Matt Light after the

1932
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 5: game because there was no where to be found.

1933
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 8: Okay, Well, he gave him a ton of truck That's

1934
01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 8: what you've heard a time or two. And I would

1935
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 8: say Dwight Freeney also gave him a lot of problems too,

1936
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,800
Speaker 8: But those guys are Hall of Fame caliber edge rushers.

1937
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 5: And for the most part, Bill made sure that Daniel

1938
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 5: Graham right.

1939
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 8: So what did Bill do. He took his two hundred

1940
01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 8: and sixty pounds tight end. He put him right next

1941
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 8: to Mat And anytime Dwight Freeney or Jason Taylor tried

1942
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 8: to come off the edge and turn the corner, Daniel

1943
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 8: Graham would would chuck him. And that's what you do

1944
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 8: for tackles, to help him out. Like Matt Light is

1945
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 8: a Patriot, Hall of Famer, he's a really good player.

1946
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 8: He those guys were better a lot of the time.

1947
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 4: I remember Bruce Smith and Bruce Armstrong would have epic

1948
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 4: battles Bruce Smith is I mean, Bruce Armstrong is in

1949
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 4: the Patriots Hall of Fame. But he would lose a

1950
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 4: lot to Bruce Smith, and sometimes he'd win and sometimes

1951
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 4: he'd get help, you know, in certain games. Yeah, but

1952
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 4: Bruce Armstrong was one of the best left tackles we

1953
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 4: ever had.

1954
01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 7: Another element, though, to me, is just the uncertainty of

1955
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 7: left guard. And as I said last night, in the

1956
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,959
Speaker 7: perfect world, you'd love to have a veteran there that

1957
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,439
Speaker 7: that can be that calming presence next to Will Campbell.

1958
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 7: Now you're gonna be having basically an open competition at

1959
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 7: left guard for all we know, with Leyden Robinson over

1960
01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 7: there Cole Strange City. So so how how do you

1961
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 7: build up some continuity with Will Campbell and help him

1962
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 7: out a little bit when there might, at least early

1963
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 7: in training camp be kind of a revolving door next

1964
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 7: to him on the right. Like, I think it's something

1965
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 7: they have to think about just how to manage and

1966
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 7: hopefully somebody's emerged in the spring that they believe in

1967
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 7: and in a perfect situation they're going to start off.

1968
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 7: Let's just call it Leydon Robinson there's And that's a really.

1969
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 4: Good point because as we've been told by you know,

1970
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 4: Scarneki and others, it's all about a lot of it

1971
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 4: is cohesion and communica. Yeah, and like having that the

1972
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 4: same guy next to you, snap after snap, I think

1973
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 4: can only be a benefit. And when that guy's changing

1974
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 4: in and out, it stunts growth I think, I mean,

1975
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 4: and not just of an individual of the whole line.

1976
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 7: I mean points to you know, Logan Mankins, who I mean,

1977
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 7: I don't know if he's ever been asked about that,

1978
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 7: but I would probably consider him being a key part

1979
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 7: of that transition of going from Matt Lte to Nate's

1980
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:53,960
Speaker 7: solder and helping Nate Solder along the way.

1981
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: I know that. You know there were some.

1982
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 7: Injuries as well that added into that. But it's never

1983
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,559
Speaker 7: going to be perfect. You're never going to have every

1984
01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 7: element that you want along the offensive line. But I

1985
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 7: do think, as I said last night, it puts a

1986
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 7: little bit more of a spotlight for me on that

1987
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 7: left guard position and how they approach it in the spring.

1988
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, I do wonder, you know, to that point, use

1989
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 8: there's a lot of talented interior offensive lineman and I've

1990
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 8: made that point numerous times, and it seems like they

1991
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,640
Speaker 8: kind of want their guys, you know, like Trayvon Henderson

1992
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 8: instead of Antonio Gibson, right, you know, Will Campbell comes

1993
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,759
Speaker 8: in obviously that's a little bit of a different situation.

1994
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 8: But they keep on turning the roster over to bring

1995
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 8: in Rabel guys and Rabel identified people. So at left guard,

1996
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,759
Speaker 8: are we waiting on a left guard pick here tonight

1997
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 8: because it kind of feels like they might not love

1998
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 8: Cole Strange and City So and Leyden Robinson. That's not

1999
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 8: Mike Rabel and Ryan Cowden's pick, Like, that's not their guy.

2000
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 8: So maybe it's going to be a guy that they

2001
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 8: draft tonight or early tomorrow that's going to be that

2002
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 8: the left guard instead.

2003
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 4: So I know you need bodies in camp, but if

2004
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 4: you do pick a left guard with in a third

2005
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,920
Speaker 4: round here to clear the decks a little bit and say, Okay,

2006
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:04,799
Speaker 4: he's gonna be our left guard and let's go.

2007
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean to be hard the third.

2008
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 5: Round, the third round, yeah, sight unseen. Well, like if

2009
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 5: he if he trust no, but if he turns out

2010
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,040
Speaker 5: to be Joe Toney and he just emerges as the

2011
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 5: best one in camp, Yeah, by all means, but he's

2012
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 5: got to win a job.

2013
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 4: I mean, sure, but I'm talking to start.

2014
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 5: But there's going to be on the team as a

2015
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 5: third round pick.

2016
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 4: But until you get rid of everybody, because you need bodies,

2017
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 4: you need depth on the offensive line. But right now,

2018
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 4: this seems like a backlog.

2019
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 5: My guess is I hear if they draft a guy

2020
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,640
Speaker 5: in the third round, somebody, probably City So is going

2021
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 5: to go.

2022
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 8: I would think, Yeah, they have three guards right now

2023
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 8: with Robinson, Strange and So that are all here, that

2024
01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 8: are all competing for one spot. So your point, Fred,

2025
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 8: if they draft a guard here in the third round,

2026
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 8: that that's a top seventy five, top eighty pick in

2027
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 8: the draft that you're probably thinking as a starter. You know,

2028
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 8: you're you're hoping that as a starter.

2029
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just not saying that. In year one, No,

2030
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,599
Speaker 5: he's not. He's not plugging plays as a third round pick,

2031
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,720
Speaker 5: but in this at that position, you might be. I

2032
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 5: think he might end up being but he has to

2033
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 5: win it.

2034
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 8: Sure.

2035
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,719
Speaker 5: I just proved that he's better than the first round

2036
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 5: pick that's already on the roster.

2037
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 7: Could I share just a few things share on Henderson

2038
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 7: from the Beast that I found interesting just showing through

2039
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 7: his blurbs.

2040
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 4: Patriots running back pit.

2041
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is two point one percent of carries and

2042
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four resulted in gains of ten yards or more,

2043
01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 7: which was third best in the FBS, speaking to how

2044
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 7: explosive he is, trusted blocker, consistently puts defenders on their backside.

2045
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 7: Credits faith for his maturation.

2046
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: Motivated by his mother, he used his nil money to

2047
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: help her retire last piece. Unselfish teammate voted twenty twenty

2048
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 1: four captain. He told Ryan Day to quote do what

2049
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 1: is best for.

2050
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 7: The team when Ohio State was considering adding quin Shawn

2051
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 7: Judkins in the transfer portal.

2052
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: Excuse me, so.

2053
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,320
Speaker 7: That, you know, seems like a leader that kind of

2054
01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 7: you know, another culture fit, and I think it's I

2055
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 7: just think it adds another l of intrigued too, is

2056
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 7: I think about it a little bit more. You guys

2057
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 7: pointed out the obvious piece of it, which is Antonio

2058
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 7: Gibson receiving role. I think last year we just saw

2059
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 7: more of a balanced rotation and maybe that's a Josh

2060
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 7: thing that they were getting away from. Maybe they'll get

2061
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 7: back to it. But when they brought in Antonio Gibson.

2062
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 7: I thought, oh, he's going to be the passing down back,

2063
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 7: But it just seemed like they kind of rotated those

2064
01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 7: guys liberally and there was no you know, obvious code

2065
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 7: like there was when it was all right, Sony Michelle's

2066
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 7: out there, they're gonna run it. James White's out there, they're.

2067
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:27,439
Speaker 1: Going to pass it.

2068
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 7: But I just I wonder how Henderson's going to push

2069
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 7: those guys, because I see him pushing Stevenson too. I

2070
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 7: think he's in the mix for you know, he can

2071
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 7: do it all, and certainly the explosiveness is brillian appealing

2072
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 7: for this team.

2073
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 4: Travis and West Virginia props Fred on the use of

2074
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 4: the word cherubic earlier. I'm sure you've addressed this, but

2075
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 4: remind me again why the Patriots don't have the fourth

2076
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 4: pick in the second and third rounds like they did

2077
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 4: in the first.

2078
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're all tied and it rotates, right, so you

2079
01:30:56,600 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 5: get it. The tiebreakers how unfolds and the very first

2080
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 5: round and then the rotation among those teams that ties

2081
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 5: sort of flip flops by round.

2082
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 4: So we were at fourth this round, we were six six,

2083
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,320
Speaker 4: and then we're gonna go up to fifth in the

2084
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 4: third round.

2085
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 5: Right, because which I think we tied with three it's

2086
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 5: a three way tie or four way? Is it a

2087
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 5: four way time?

2088
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 10: No? Three way?

2089
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 4: Eventually we'll get back to fourth.

2090
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, all the four and thirteen teams that tied rotate.

2091
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,720
Speaker 8: Yeah. I just think it will be really fun with

2092
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 8: Henderson and Stevenson. I think it's a perfect pairing between

2093
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 8: the two of those guys. I go immediately to David

2094
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 8: Montgomery engineer Gibbs, like, you have a guy that's between

2095
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 8: the tackles, bruiser, a real sledgehammer with Stevenson. And we've

2096
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 8: talked a lot about the fumbling issues with Mandre and

2097
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 8: I think a big part of that is just how

2098
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 8: much volume he's taken on over the last couple of

2099
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 8: years of trying to be really a three down player

2100
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 8: in the offense because they haven't had a true change

2101
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 8: of pace back that can kind of take some of

2102
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 8: the pressure off of him. So having a fresher mare

2103
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 8: Stevenson having less on his plate, does that make him

2104
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 8: a better player? Does that make him a less stepped

2105
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 8: world of fumbles and having ball security issues. I think

2106
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 8: that two of those guys together, it's not redundant at all.

2107
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 8: You can see how they can kind of fill in

2108
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 8: each other's holes and be, you know, a little bit

2109
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 8: more explosive in the passing game than Remandre is.

2110
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 1: The home run threat.

2111
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 7: That that, to me, is the huge piece of this puzzle,

2112
01:32:20,479 --> 01:32:22,639
Speaker 7: and that I think we get in so many debates

2113
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 7: about running backs and teams trying to build themselves around

2114
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,280
Speaker 7: the run, but having that explosive element of the running

2115
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 7: game that that's.

2116
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: Promising to me.

2117
01:32:30,520 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 7: I think that Vrabel and this new regime, they understand

2118
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 7: how they have to win games, and that's with with

2119
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 7: Drake May's arm ultimately, but building a complimentary running game

2120
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 7: that can take a little bit of pressure off him.

2121
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 7: I mean that these are the things we talked about

2122
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 7: when we're throwing genty out there, of ya, you know,

2123
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 7: and obviously these are different players, but but not that

2124
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 7: much really. I mean, I think the elements of genty

2125
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 7: that we're appealing in, if it all worked out perfectly,

2126
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 7: are a lot of what Henderson will bring to the table.

2127
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 4: Did we get our first reach with the Bengals taking

2128
01:32:58,280 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 4: Demetrius Knight Junior.

2129
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, A lot of people sort of talked about that.

2130
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 5: Obviously a player they really like though.

2131
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:08,640
Speaker 8: My boy, I think what we're at the point, you know,

2132
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,040
Speaker 8: just looking at a lot of these picks, Like Terrence

2133
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 8: Ferguson I had as like a fringe top one hundred

2134
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 8: guide probably a little early for him to but really

2135
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 8: what we're getting at now is just everybody's board is

2136
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 8: so widely different in a draft like this, and like

2137
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 8: there's not a ton separating some of these guys at

2138
01:33:25,840 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 8: this point. So if that's your fit, if that's your

2139
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 8: type of player, then you're just taking your guy and

2140
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 8: you're cool with it. The other position that I think

2141
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 8: is a little bit you know, getting passed on right

2142
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 8: now is corner. There's a lot of corners out there still,

2143
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 8: you know, Ben Morrison's out there. Trey Amos I don't

2144
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 8: think has been picked yet. He hasn't as a rate.

2145
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 8: Thomas from Florida State. I'm terrible with names. Chavon Revel,

2146
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 8: East Carolina is coming off an injury, but he a

2147
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,320
Speaker 8: lot of people thought he was like a top fifty guy.

2148
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 8: So corners are getting pushed down the board by all

2149
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 8: these ed dressers. It seems like right now on the

2150
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 8: defensive side of the ball. I'm shocked at Amos as

2151
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:05,680
Speaker 8: in gonyet so to.

2152
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 5: Be honest, like I expected a lot more of that, Like,

2153
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 5: you know, someone's top hundred might have five or six

2154
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 5: guys taken that warn't in there because of the way

2155
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 5: everybody talked about this draft.

2156
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:17,240
Speaker 4: But it hasn't yet.

2157
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 5: It's going to be wildly similar from twenty to seventy

2158
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 5: or something whatever, Right, But so far, most of the

2159
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 5: boards have been pretty good.

2160
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Mike Green's still out there right.

2161
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 8: Like, yeah, Mike Green.

2162
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 4: Well, Nick Courton just went when Dylan writes and he

2163
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 4: wants to know why we think Mike Green is falling?

2164
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,040
Speaker 1: Oh boy, sexual assault allegation.

2165
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 4: H he's got some off fields.

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01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 7: I said to Evan, I've never been to the commine

2167
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:42,760
Speaker 7: where I heard a guy at the podium and I

2168
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 7: just was walking by and all I heard him saying

2169
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 7: was like I've never been formally charged with anything.

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01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, that ain't going good over there.

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01:34:49,120 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 7: Have you guys seen something like this, like when do

2172
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 7: we get into uncharted territory where a guy who every

2173
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 7: mock draft was a first round pick is now really

2174
01:34:57,360 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 7: I mean, when is he going to go?

2175
01:34:58,760 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 1: It's what point is it working?

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01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure that the draft knicks would tell you,

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01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 5: but I just can't think of a name right now.

2178
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 5: But it happens, yeah, usually, you know, I remember, like

2179
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 5: Nikobe Dean was the guy that all of a sudden,

2180
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 5: like the draft came around and it was like what

2181
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 5: wasn't broken on him? He had like a shoulder problem,

2182
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,080
Speaker 5: the knee problem, and he had a lot of injury

2183
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 5: red flags and it's kind of.

2184
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: A first round some people.

2185
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 5: A lot of people thought him first potential too, and

2186
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 5: he fell. But in terms of red flags, I mean,

2187
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,800
Speaker 5: I don't know where a d. Mitchell was supposed to

2188
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:32,759
Speaker 5: go last year.

2189
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 8: Exactly, probably higher than he's.

2190
01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 5: Definitely higher than he did. But I don't know if

2191
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 5: he was supposed to be this his round pick.

2192
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, but this is for almost forgetting for two rounds

2193
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 8: the day that's a good pick by Tennessee. Uh yeah,

2194
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 8: I were Mike Green. I don't at this point like

2195
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 8: this is Mike getting drafted, Like yeah, I don't know.

2196
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,799
Speaker 8: I mean, just watching the edges fly off the board

2197
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 8: like one after another and it's not him.

2198
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 5: I I just wonder if there is a chance that

2199
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 5: you don't see him at all and then someone just

2200
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:03,720
Speaker 5: you know, takes a sixth round flyer on him or

2201
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 5: something says, you know what's the worst if if he

2202
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 5: has what you know, he's on a zero Tarnlan's policy

2203
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 5: and one one strike and he's gone. But you lose

2204
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,240
Speaker 5: nothing because six or seventh round pick.

2205
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:18,880
Speaker 4: Craign's central mass. You guys are peaking professionally tonight Deuce

2206
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 4: got new uniforms, Fred got the topic pick the top

2207
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 4: pick to laugh at a joke about paint. They're talking football,

2208
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 4: so Evan is happy, while Paul was only slightly negative

2209
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 4: about the second pick, complaining that his first name is

2210
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 4: hard to tell.

2211
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 5: Thank you, my god, I can't remember liking to pick.

2212
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 4: That much anyway. When do you see the center from

2213
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 4: Georgia going? And is he worth investing a pick in

2214
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 4: to take the job from Bradbury next year? Tip them picks?

2215
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,879
Speaker 8: He says, well, sorry, who was the first center from Georgia?

2216
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 8: Jared Wilson really talented player. I think that he's going

2217
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 8: to be a starting center for sure, maybe even as

2218
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,880
Speaker 8: a rookie. I would say that we're getting into Jared

2219
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 8: Wilson territory now. He's probably back into the top one

2220
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,800
Speaker 8: hundred kind of guy. If you're drafting Jared Wilson. Noah,

2221
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 8: this high, like he's starting year one, Like that's not

2222
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,840
Speaker 8: maybe not day one, but I would be surprised if

2223
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 8: if you keep him off the field. You're drafting a

2224
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 8: center at sixty nine is high, you know, if you're

2225
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,560
Speaker 8: gonna go that position. So I would think that that

2226
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 8: would probably be off their board just because of that.

2227
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 8: It's a little aggressive at center.

2228
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,679
Speaker 4: Right, All right, let's get back to some phone calls.

2229
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,440
Speaker 4: Eight five to five, Pats five hundred is the hotline.

2230
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 4: Christian is a LA. What's up? Christian?

2231
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 13: Hey, you guys, thanks for taking my all this afternoon

2232
01:37:35,080 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 13: on Draft stay two here in La Los Angeles where

2233
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:42,959
Speaker 13: it's sunny. But I am definitely cloudy. I I don't understand.

2234
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 13: I don't I don't get it. I know they got

2235
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 13: Mike Rabel, and I know exactly who he is and

2236
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 13: exactly what he's doing. He's building the Tennessee Titans.

2237
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 16: Again.

2238
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 13: I know what he wants to do. He wants to

2239
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 13: run first, play good defense, and win seventeen to fourteen.

2240
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 13: We are no longer in a seventeen fourteen lead. We

2241
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 13: are in a lead where you have to put points

2242
01:38:04,160 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 13: on the board all right. And I don't mind the

2243
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 13: kid Tevon Henderson. I don't mind him at all. But

2244
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 13: he is not a lead.

2245
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 4: Okay, so what would you what should I'm up there, okay,

2246
01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 4: I'm just and I get it. So what should what

2247
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,880
Speaker 4: should Rabel have done of that? That?

2248
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:20,559
Speaker 1: You what?

2249
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 4: What didn't he do that you think he should have done?

2250
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 4: So far?

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01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 13: He should not have taken a running back with our

2252
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,960
Speaker 13: second pick when we have two. Oh, they're not superstars anymore.

2253
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 13: But Mandre has this problem. And I told you and

2254
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 13: get it. He's okay, I get it. They're not superstars.

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01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 13: We do not need a running back. We need a

2256
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 13: impact player that could play.

2257
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 4: Put a name to it, put a name to it.

2258
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 13: I don't mind Jalen Nolan. I don't mind somebody's got.

2259
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 8: Well, he's still on the board watching well.

2260
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:52,120
Speaker 4: He thinks they should have taken him.

2261
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, but he's still They could take him at sixty nine,

2262
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 8: I know, but he's still on the work.

2263
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 4: But he may not be sixty nine, but I I

2264
01:38:57,760 --> 01:38:59,280
Speaker 4: so fifty something.

2265
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: There we are.

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01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 13: He's building a team for a league that does not

2267
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 13: exist anymore.

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01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 8: League Christian Christian Christian Christian Trayvon Henderson is not that

2269
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 8: type of running back. Dude, he's pass He's not. He's

2270
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 8: not Derrick Henry, right, can I We're not He's not

2271
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,639
Speaker 8: five three yards in the thought of dust. He averaged

2272
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 8: seven yards of carry last year. It's an explosive running

2273
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 8: back is a playmaker.

2274
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:27,519
Speaker 13: Reason why kids and and Montgomery able to do what

2275
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,519
Speaker 13: they do is because they have a sievers that can

2276
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:31,879
Speaker 13: back up the linebackers that can back up the safety.

2277
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,160
Speaker 13: I don't care about this kid. When the safety is in,

2278
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 13: the linebacker are going to crash. The box's not going

2279
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:38,639
Speaker 13: to It's not that good league. And I'm so mad.

2280
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, can I just go on recres. I

2281
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:49,840
Speaker 5: don't believe. I don't know. I don't believe any bit

2282
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 5: of that.

2283
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:56,120
Speaker 4: That's l A. I'm sorry, but I like it, Christian.

2284
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 4: I love it. Good stuff.

2285
01:39:58,640 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 8: Let's just wait to the end the night, Like, let's

2286
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,679
Speaker 8: see what they do in the third round, Like there's

2287
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:03,760
Speaker 8: still receivers out there.

2288
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 5: I really like Jalen Knowle too, right, Yeah, I was thinking,

2289
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 5: you know, thirty eight, I would have liked him. Well,

2290
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,680
Speaker 5: we'll like fifteen twenty picks after that. He's still on

2291
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 5: the board, so maybe you know, I know this is

2292
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 5: hard to maybe I'm wrong, yeah, but you know, maybe

2293
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 5: you know, no one else thought he was worthy of

2294
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 5: a pick yet.

2295
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 4: Either, But you know, I'll play the game. Let's just

2296
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 4: say that that is truly you know, rage coming from

2297
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 4: Christian But like I like it. They needed a left

2298
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 4: tackle too, right, Oh yeah, if you don't take a

2299
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 4: left tackle, then that word neglect comes back into play.

2300
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 5: I would just argue that I get the whole thing

2301
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,879
Speaker 5: about trying to win games, you know, strictly on defense,

2302
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:45,599
Speaker 5: and I hate it.

2303
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 4: You guys know that, right, they just took offensive players.

2304
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,400
Speaker 5: But I think that the the offensive player that they

2305
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 5: took you can easily put into that category. Oh, they

2306
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 5: just want to run the ball and stop the run. Now, Like,

2307
01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:00,000
Speaker 5: I don't think that's this kind of running back.

2308
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 4: He's two oh two, he's a fast guy.

2309
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 5: I think he's a home run here. I think he's

2310
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 5: a big play guy that they're going to look to

2311
01:41:05,479 --> 01:41:06,559
Speaker 5: try to make some plays with.

2312
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 8: Right, They're going to try to get this guy the

2313
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 8: ball in space. You don't have to go three yards

2314
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:14,160
Speaker 8: in a cloud of dust. Like you can make big

2315
01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 8: plays in the passing game. You can, you know, sort

2316
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 8: of try to you know, have a big play running

2317
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 8: attack too. I mean, I'm not suggesting you give this

2318
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 8: guy twenty five carries a game.

2319
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to do that, but can can you

2320
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,040
Speaker 5: you scheme up some stuff and get him in space?

2321
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:30,960
Speaker 8: He's not even that kind of guy, right, Like, you

2322
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 8: want to get this guy like ten to twelve touches

2323
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 8: a game where.

2324
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,600
Speaker 1: He's in a lot of tools going for ten yards plus.

2325
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 8: Right on right, And I would just say, you know,

2326
01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 8: fair or not, Luther Burden and Travon Henderson will be

2327
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 8: Lad mccacky and Jalen Polk right like there we are

2328
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 8: going to compare those two players. They got picked back

2329
01:41:48,400 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 8: to back. The Bears picked Burden, the Patriots picked Henderson,

2330
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 8: and whether it was fake or not, if Luthor Burden

2331
01:41:55,080 --> 01:41:58,559
Speaker 8: goes on to have a great career and Travon Henderson doesn't,

2332
01:41:58,600 --> 01:42:02,320
Speaker 8: then then Christians outrage will be warranted like that.

2333
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 5: That's how it works.

2334
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, those are the coin flips, and that that was

2335
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:06,160
Speaker 8: a coin flip.

2336
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 5: And by the way, if you're allowed to be outraged

2337
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,960
Speaker 5: before it happens too, I mean I remember being sort

2338
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 5: of outraged on the Taekwon Thornton pick with all the

2339
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 5: receivers that were picked right around him. All the receivers

2340
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 5: picked right around him weren't all good. It was one

2341
01:42:23,160 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 5: that was much better than him, one that was good,

2342
01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 5: and one that's kind of done nothing. Sky Moore. Right,

2343
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:32,559
Speaker 5: it was George Pickens, Alec Pearce, and sky Moore. Now

2344
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,519
Speaker 5: I would take all three of them over Taekwon Thoharton.

2345
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, but sky Moore has really done

2346
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 5: nothing in one of the best offenses in football. So

2347
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 5: you never know.

2348
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,879
Speaker 4: Patty, let's see. You gotta get my mouth, Patty's inn agawam.

2349
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 4: What's up? Patty?

2350
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 5: One sure signing note?

2351
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough.

2352
01:42:57,720 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 14: I want to I want to get into some of

2353
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 14: the ways I know, like two of the guys. I

2354
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 14: really like to hear some Jalen noell are on the board, Evan.

2355
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 14: I wanted to ask you, have you watched any film

2356
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 14: on Yes, his name's escaped me.

2357
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 5: The kid from Utah State, Jalen Royals.

2358
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,840
Speaker 14: Jalen Royals. Yeah, because like I've only seen highlights. He

2359
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:20,840
Speaker 14: looks like he's a little deliberate when he's running his route,

2360
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 14: but as soon as the ball gets in his hands,

2361
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,320
Speaker 14: like he like kicks into another gear. And then I

2362
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:27,400
Speaker 14: don't know if I'm just seeing stuff I want to

2363
01:43:27,439 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 14: see if you see the same thing, and Mike listen,

2364
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:32,720
Speaker 14: calm down, buddy. By the end of the night, the

2365
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:35,640
Speaker 14: Patriots will have Jack Sawyer on the team. Oh I

2366
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 14: got let's go.

2367
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 4: Thanks.

2368
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,040
Speaker 8: Yeah. Jalen Royals fits right into that same mold with

2369
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 8: Kyle Williams and Jalen Nole, Like they're all kind of

2370
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 8: speed slots. I would agree with Patty good good scouting. Patty.

2371
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:50,559
Speaker 8: I think he's better with the ball in his hands

2372
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 8: than he is as a route runner in terms of

2373
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 8: his play speed. But he reminded me a little bit

2374
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 8: of your guy, Jayden Reied. He reminds me a little

2375
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:00,599
Speaker 8: bit of him, a similar type of player. So he's

2376
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,800
Speaker 8: still out there if that's their their pick. And again

2377
01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 8: it's it's kind of uh Noel, Kyle Williams, Jalen, Jalen Royals,

2378
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:11,880
Speaker 8: you know, used to be Isaiah Boss. I'm just going

2379
01:44:11,920 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 8: to say for one out, but all four of those

2380
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 8: guys were kind of in a cluster and it was

2381
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 8: sort of just pick your flavor, pick your choice out

2382
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:19,519
Speaker 8: of that group.

2383
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:21,799
Speaker 1: I like those guys. Be happy with any of those guys.

2384
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 8: Speed now, but good players well as long as they

2385
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 8: have speed. Yea, they have speeds.

2386
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:27,960
Speaker 7: That's what we've been saying since I think the end

2387
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:31,200
Speaker 7: of last season was that's the element you need in

2388
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 7: that room. I think they've got a lot of guys

2389
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 7: in that room that you know, do certain things well,

2390
01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 7: but they don't have anybody who can chew up the

2391
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:38,519
Speaker 7: field and really.

2392
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 4: Ce j and Case. I just want to say how

2393
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 4: pumped I am for the Henderson pick. Solid pick that

2394
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 4: can help Day one. I can't remember the last Ohio

2395
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,639
Speaker 4: State player the Patriots pick, but I hope that changes,

2396
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 4: especially since their wide receiver you now, I hope we

2397
01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 4: aren't in a position to pick Juremiah Smith in a

2398
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:56,679
Speaker 4: couple of years when he's available, but I maybe give

2399
01:44:56,760 --> 01:44:59,000
Speaker 4: up the whole twenty twenty seven draft to move up

2400
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,440
Speaker 4: and get him. Thanks for the great draft.

2401
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 5: Coverage that be Andy katziwhere.

2402
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 4: Katzimore was. Yeah, Terry Glenn was the best probably that

2403
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 4: they picked for Ohios.

2404
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:12,439
Speaker 10: Stay.

2405
01:45:12,720 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 8: I'm glad there's one. There's one sooner than Cats and Moore. Nate, Yeah,

2406
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 8: I think it might be Nate Ebner. I'll look it up.

2407
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 7: With Belton going now though it's just this is what

2408
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 7: we talked about. Now, now you're trying to project tackles,

2409
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 7: and it's a tough spot to be in right now

2410
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 7: if you felt like I need to get a left

2411
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:32,200
Speaker 7: tackle or you know even really at this point, right

2412
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 7: tackle that can play. And now you're crossing your fingers

2413
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 7: and hoping that one of these guys is gonna make.

2414
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,200
Speaker 8: A k Yeah. I mean I didn't even think Anthony Belton.

2415
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 8: I didn't have him in my top one hundred picks.

2416
01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,240
Speaker 8: So like you're already starting to kind of like get

2417
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:47,840
Speaker 8: into that Kiden Wallace territory of like we're reading out

2418
01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 8: tackles because we need a guy. Now. The other side

2419
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 8: of it, Ery did make it to thirty eight. Yeah,

2420
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 8: so you could have done Ash and Genty Ursery instead

2421
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:02,040
Speaker 8: of Will Campbell Traveon Henderson. So that's another one that

2422
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 8: we'll look back and we'll say, you know, which would

2423
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 8: which one would have been better? Would Urcery and Genty

2424
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 8: would have been better or Henderson and Campbell. It's kind

2425
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 8: of funny that they're both tackles and running back, so

2426
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 8: we'll have an exact now, different teams.

2427
01:46:15,439 --> 01:46:17,720
Speaker 4: Interesting, but yeah, tweet that out.

2428
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:18,800
Speaker 1: I bet that would get some traction.

2429
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:20,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I'm gonna keep that one.

2430
01:46:20,120 --> 01:46:25,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think yeah. Let's go to Ray and Dedham.

2431
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 4: What's up? Ray?

2432
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,280
Speaker 9: Hey, Hey, what's up guys?

2433
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 4: Great show? Thank you.

2434
01:46:32,680 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 9: First of all, Henderson was a great back. Okay, so

2435
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:40,759
Speaker 9: you know together previous caller, I think he's a little

2436
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 9: you know, all off face there. But two picks later, uh,

2437
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 9: the Saints picked Tyler Shaw as quarterback instead of Shador Sanders. So,

2438
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:56,759
Speaker 9: I mean that was kind of like a holy, holy

2439
01:46:56,840 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 9: crap moment because Tyla Shaw I was expecting him to be,

2440
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 9: you know, in that mix. So why is should Sanders

2441
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:05,960
Speaker 9: falling so far?

2442
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:07,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question.

2443
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:08,040
Speaker 18: Ray.

2444
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:12,320
Speaker 4: I mean we've heard, we've heard everything in this pre

2445
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 4: draft process from people are not understanding his gifts, that

2446
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 4: he's talented and it was a product of the system

2447
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 4: that he just couldn't, you know, be that quarterback on

2448
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 4: tape that you know, with all the refinement that he

2449
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 4: had to do what he did. And then the other

2450
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 4: side of the argument is that he wasn't you know,

2451
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,600
Speaker 4: he didn't have that thing, that he doesn't have the

2452
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 4: patience he got out of you know, off platform too quickly.

2453
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:39,160
Speaker 4: He was you know, he didn't give the play chance

2454
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 4: to develop. He was and he doesn't have that great

2455
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 4: an arm. So you heard both sides of it. And

2456
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,759
Speaker 4: I don't know who to believe because I'm.

2457
01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 5: Not physically he's not great now. I think he's probably

2458
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:53,840
Speaker 5: a better player than Tyler Shuck, but yeah, I mean

2459
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 5: he's not.

2460
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:58,720
Speaker 8: He's not a first round talent that too, Tyler Shucks.

2461
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:02,879
Speaker 9: So if he falls of to the third round, Cleveland

2462
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 9: has a couple of picks in the third round. They

2463
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,080
Speaker 9: can wait till like ninety four together because nobody else

2464
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 9: needs a quarterback at this point.

2465
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, I could. Yeah, I stun Thanks for everything that

2466
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 8: I hear heard about your door going up to this

2467
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 8: is just how awful his interview process was.

2468
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 4: That didn't hurt, that didn't help.

2469
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that that's a big party. Why like

2470
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 8: what was it just or just yeah, one of the

2471
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:32,640
Speaker 8: entitled like one of the worst interviews of this, like

2472
01:48:32,800 --> 01:48:36,760
Speaker 8: these executives' careers, you know in the NFL, you know.

2473
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 8: And I'm not saying that that's true, like this is

2474
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 8: all anonymous sourcing and all that kind of stuff with

2475
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 8: all these reports, but that's what's being said about.

2476
01:48:45,400 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 4: It, even in like third round or fourth round. You

2477
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 4: take this guy and you have to realize there's going

2478
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 4: to be a constant drumbeat by maybe half your fan

2479
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 4: base and certainly his dad that he should be playing

2480
01:48:57,200 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 4: right now.

2481
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:01,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've I was thinking about that for some

2482
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 5: of these teams that aren't necessarily looking to plug him

2483
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,800
Speaker 5: in as the starter right away. What's he going to

2484
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:06,080
Speaker 5: be like?

2485
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 4: Is like he's the Giants.

2486
01:49:08,520 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 1: My chance was my chance?

2487
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 5: You suddenly Joe Milton's a problem. He's a Dallas cowboy.

2488
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:17,479
Speaker 5: This is this is this is time it all comes around.

2489
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:20,120
Speaker 5: I'm not going to blame you because you were on

2490
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:22,640
Speaker 5: my side last year when we had this conversation.

2491
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 4: This is where we were.

2492
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 8: We were called.

2493
01:49:24,840 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 5: Baby, I was called a baby. I was I was

2494
01:49:27,479 --> 01:49:29,639
Speaker 5: told to take my ball and go home if I recalled,

2495
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 5: and once again I was right. So tired of being right.

2496
01:49:36,160 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm tired of it too. Because the Patriots have been

2497
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:38,759
Speaker 1: four and twelve.

2498
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 8: You wanted to get rid of Tom Brady, all right.

2499
01:49:43,439 --> 01:49:47,320
Speaker 8: You invited thists because of you.

2500
01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,519
Speaker 5: You are the reason you invited you. This is this

2501
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 5: is on you.

2502
01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 1: This is why they sent me over here.

2503
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 8: Really quickly, Trey Harris went to the Chargers. So he

2504
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,120
Speaker 8: was sort of the other ex receiver that we were

2505
01:49:59,120 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 8: talking about earlier. Uh so you know there are some

2506
01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 8: receivers that are starting to go slowly here off the board.

2507
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:07,599
Speaker 8: Uh if you're I was a Trey Harris guy too.

2508
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 8: I liked him.

2509
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 5: Another local product went too.

2510
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,360
Speaker 8: It was kind of like Ted McMillan, Uh, Jayden Higgins,

2511
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 8: Trey Harris, like those were kind of the three tiers

2512
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 8: of that type of player. So, uh, now we're getting

2513
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,320
Speaker 8: into the Dante Thorntons and the Isaac Teslaws and like

2514
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 8: those types of guys if you want that true outside

2515
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:26,800
Speaker 8: the numbers.

2516
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 4: Ethan in La says Henderson hasn't fumbled since his freshman year,

2517
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:32,000
Speaker 4: perfect third down back. Yeah.

2518
01:50:32,080 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's got a lot of like Bill and that,

2519
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 7: Like just reliable team guy.

2520
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:36,760
Speaker 10: You know.

2521
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,080
Speaker 1: It's just it seems like he's checks a lot of

2522
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:39,719
Speaker 1: those off the field.

2523
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 5: But I just need him to be a playmaker. That's

2524
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 5: all I'm working for. I want someone that can put

2525
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 5: some pressure on a defense. So, Mike, they're not easy

2526
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 5: to you. Yeah, I was saying. Another local guy, Ozzie Trapilo,

2527
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:57,599
Speaker 5: went to the I thought for him though, I thought

2528
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:00,640
Speaker 5: he had Patriots written, well, yeah, this is he's going

2529
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:01,200
Speaker 5: to go tonight.

2530
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:01,559
Speaker 4: He was.

2531
01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 5: I would have been shocked if he didn't go tonight.

2532
01:51:03,600 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 7: Okay, Yeah, Bears their interesting team this saf season. I

2533
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 7: mean I almost forgot that they had gotten Tooney. I mean,

2534
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 7: they're they're going to try to make some noise there

2535
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:13,880
Speaker 7: and that and that Tony Domon you know, and uh

2536
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:17,040
Speaker 7: that other Jonah Jackson. I mean it kind of likes

2537
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 7: just the philosophy of let's solidify our aligne with with veterans,

2538
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,960
Speaker 7: and let's just keep adding youth and explosiveness to our weaponry.

2539
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:27,680
Speaker 5: And big play guys, you know, with Lovelins to go

2540
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 5: with Caleb Williams. I mean, let's face it, you could

2541
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 5: talk about all this stuff. If Caleb Williams doesn't have

2542
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 5: some development in year two, just like we're talking about

2543
01:51:35,160 --> 01:51:37,680
Speaker 5: here with Drake May, it's going to be all or not.

2544
01:51:38,120 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 5: You can do all the right things, and if your

2545
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 5: quarterback doesn't develop, you're going to be limited.

2546
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,320
Speaker 8: Uh'd be interesting to see where he plays Trpillo because

2547
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:48,320
Speaker 8: he played right tackle at Boston College. Most people think

2548
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:50,519
Speaker 8: that he's best at right tackle. They have Darnell Wright,

2549
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 8: who they dis drafted in the first round a couple

2550
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 8: of years ago was their right tackle and they had

2551
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 8: more of a whole Chicago at left tackle. So are

2552
01:51:57,360 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 8: they thinking of trying to flip Trpillo to left tackle?

2553
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:02,799
Speaker 8: You know, he's probably the best tackle on the board

2554
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:06,439
Speaker 8: to if you're going to do it, I understand thinking

2555
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 8: that way instead of overdrafting a tackle. Now it's really

2556
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:11,880
Speaker 8: a Day three guy that you're drafting here just because

2557
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 8: he plays on the left side.

2558
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,800
Speaker 7: I'm blanking on his name. The mercurial receiver from the

2559
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,519
Speaker 7: Bears who was on Carolina.

2560
01:52:17,479 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 8: Dj Moore.

2561
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 1: I think they tried to move him maybe, Like I

2562
01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:21,599
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just I don't know.

2563
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 4: I wonder if he's on board now with all these

2564
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,080
Speaker 4: moves eyeballs for Patriots.

2565
01:52:25,120 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like, I mean he was. He was

2566
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,600
Speaker 1: kind of pouty last year, right, nothing crazy, Yeah, No,

2567
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 1: he was.

2568
01:52:31,439 --> 01:52:33,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you wonder how much of that pouting was

2569
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:36,680
Speaker 5: because of Caleb Williams, Right, And if that was, you know,

2570
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:38,640
Speaker 5: he didn't like playing with Caleb Williams, then maybe you

2571
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 5: try to move him.

2572
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:39,679
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2573
01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 8: Tate Ratledge to the Lions. Nice, really good player, really

2574
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:48,479
Speaker 8: nice pick for the Lions. I didn't really love Tate

2575
01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 8: Ratledge for the Patriots because he's been a solely a

2576
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 8: right guard at Georgia and has never played any left guard.

2577
01:52:54,360 --> 01:52:55,760
Speaker 8: I think there was a lot of people that did

2578
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 8: really like him as a Patriot fit. But I think

2579
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 8: it's like something like forty careers starts all at right

2580
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 8: guard at Georgia, so he would have had to. We

2581
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 8: were all anti flipping the tackles, and so it kind

2582
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 8: of has to stand the reason that we're anti flipping

2583
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 8: the guards also right So a good player though, that's

2584
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 8: a good pick.

2585
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 4: By the line, Oh boy, this this one this email

2586
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 4: or Paul writes in curious if the listeners feel the

2587
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:22,320
Speaker 4: same way I do. Fred, Paul and Mike are conversational.

2588
01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:24,920
Speaker 4: There is a nice flow of ideas. It's like hanging

2589
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:26,720
Speaker 4: out at a bar with your friends. Evan, on the

2590
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,519
Speaker 4: other hand, is lecturing people when he talks in an

2591
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 4: angry manner. His opinion is the only opinion. Did Eric

2592
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 4: return with football knowledge? If someone could remove the stick

2593
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 4: from Evans took us, he may relax and be a

2594
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 4: good listen. Long live Barth. So I wonder if this

2595
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 4: is Bartha's burner. This could be Bartha's berner.

2596
01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 5: I really like that email.

2597
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:51,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I apologize for taking it too seriously. I'll take

2598
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 8: it less seriously, and there we go. I'll take it

2599
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,360
Speaker 8: less seriously for the email. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'll

2600
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 8: put my notes away and I'll just you know, Mike.

2601
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:05,599
Speaker 5: You and I sit down and watch football with Fred.

2602
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:08,519
Speaker 5: It's sort of just a free conversation because I don't.

2603
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 4: Know what the hell I'm talking about.

2604
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:12,400
Speaker 8: I am one hundred percent not conversational when it comes

2605
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:15,320
Speaker 8: to this. I fully admit that I let you guys

2606
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,599
Speaker 8: handle the conversational and you know you call on me

2607
01:54:18,640 --> 01:54:19,400
Speaker 8: when it's my turn.

2608
01:54:19,479 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 4: All right, that's why those ball are you gonna like

2609
01:54:21,880 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 4: go in the corner?

2610
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 2: Now?

2611
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 8: Apparently I just won't cover the draft when when we

2612
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,360
Speaker 8: come on the clock at sixty nine, I'll come back.

2613
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:29,840
Speaker 4: And I used to do that once in a while.

2614
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 4: All Right, I just won't talk.

2615
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,640
Speaker 1: Fine, Yeah, I won't share my gift half.

2616
01:54:33,680 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 5: I'm not doing it with down.

2617
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:38,440
Speaker 4: Eric returned with football knowledge.

2618
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 8: I mean, at least he said I had football knowledge.

2619
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 8: Like I guess there's that.

2620
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:47,480
Speaker 5: Nope, that's the funniest part right there. Like the fact

2621
01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 5: that he got made fun of is of no consequence.

2622
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 5: The guy, the guy.

2623
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,160
Speaker 4: The guy said, I had football college.

2624
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I absolutely do not care if I am

2625
01:54:56,640 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 8: conversational or not during the draft. No, this is gott

2626
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 8: this is too important.

2627
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 1: We got to get it out.

2628
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 4: Clinton, Omaha, Clinton Henderson about Henderson, really impressed by his

2629
01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:12,840
Speaker 4: willingness to block, as well as the eleven plus yards

2630
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 4: per catch. Josh should be able to take advantage of that.

2631
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 4: Trey Harris seems like a shaky pick, very limited routree

2632
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 4: at Ole Miss. His best take may have been at

2633
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 4: Louisiana Tech. Yeah, I prefer.

2634
01:55:24,440 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 7: William mental pick. Though I think, you know, there's a

2635
01:55:26,360 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 7: lot appealing about Trey Harris. I think off the bus

2636
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,640
Speaker 7: he looks just like, well, there's your guy. It's not

2637
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,480
Speaker 7: built like but like a lot of.

2638
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 5: Stuff they said about DK Metcalf and AJ Brown. Oh,

2639
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 5: I don't know. How about the rout tree. You know,

2640
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:43,240
Speaker 5: because if you remember, if you thought that DK Metcalf

2641
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 5: was better than Kenei ol' harry, you're an idiot.

2642
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,080
Speaker 8: Yeah. I don't know if he's as explosive as those

2643
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,440
Speaker 8: two guys, but there's no problem of him being a

2644
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 8: limited routree in Los Angeles. His job is going to

2645
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 8: be the run routes on the outside and let lad

2646
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:59,000
Speaker 8: McConkie do Lad McConkie things. So like, it's not like

2647
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 8: they're asking him to go out there and run like

2648
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 8: these option routes in this diverse rout tree. He's gonna

2649
01:56:04,840 --> 01:56:07,080
Speaker 8: run go routes. He's gonna run nine stops, he's gonna

2650
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 8: run in cuts, and they're gonna feed lad maconkie the ball.

2651
01:56:10,640 --> 01:56:13,640
Speaker 8: They needed an outside receiver, they needed somebody that complimented

2652
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:15,960
Speaker 8: lad and and Cray Harris definitely does that.

2653
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,720
Speaker 1: Quentin Quentin Johnson.

2654
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 5: You don't have to rely on him as much. He's

2655
01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:22,680
Speaker 5: too he's not reliable. Yeah, I mean he can make

2656
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 5: some plays, but he drops too many balls and he's

2657
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:27,640
Speaker 5: not consistent. So now you have someone else take that out.

2658
01:56:27,680 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 4: You have a little insurance. You know, some Christian hate.

2659
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:37,360
Speaker 4: Can we give Christian an adderall Ethan? What a freaking boom, Christian? Please?

2660
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 5: Christians made the heel turn, he's embracing the heel turn.

2661
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:45,200
Speaker 5: He's in his Uh, that's Austin's Christian.

2662
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 4: Please to filling up those until you get that big

2663
01:56:48,280 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 4: acting break and stay away from anything football, or at

2664
01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 4: least watch the videos or something. Can we petition a

2665
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 4: sponsor lunches to never take another call from him again.

2666
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:00,840
Speaker 4: But if I don't take calls him, then you have

2667
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 4: nothing to be mad about. And if you have nothing

2668
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:08,200
Speaker 4: to be mad about, it's not fun. So people hoping

2669
01:57:08,240 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 4: for Osio Trapillo, he got taken, so we can't. We

2670
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:17,320
Speaker 4: can't get him. Sorry, sorry, Darius writes, in any chance

2671
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 4: we skip on drafting a wide receiver because Rabel and

2672
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 4: company have faith in Poke and Baker. Maybe he thinks

2673
01:57:24,640 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 4: they can play, but wasn't developed and coach correctly. By

2674
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 4: the way, I still have faith in Baker. He was

2675
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,959
Speaker 4: a dog in college and can learn from Digs hopefully.

2676
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what he's trying to say.

2677
01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 7: And that's why I would just say, like, I want

2678
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,760
Speaker 7: to add a receiver, but somebody that brings something different

2679
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 7: of the party. I don't need to just add a

2680
01:57:42,040 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 7: receiver to say we added a receiver. And that's why

2681
01:57:44,080 --> 01:57:46,320
Speaker 7: I was kind of out on you know, guys like

2682
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 7: Jack Bash or I mean, Ristreppo is kind of even

2683
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 7: ridiculous out of the conversation now, but you know, early

2684
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 7: on there were conversations about him, all these inside receivers

2685
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 7: who aren't going to run the fastest, but they're reliable, Like,

2686
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 7: we don't need to do.

2687
01:57:58,280 --> 01:57:58,920
Speaker 1: It just to do it.

2688
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 7: If there's a guy with some speed that you feel

2689
01:58:00,680 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 7: like brings a new element to the offense, I'm all

2690
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 7: for it. But I don't need to see another guy

2691
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,960
Speaker 7: where he's probably gonna be the inside guy. He might

2692
01:58:06,960 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 7: struggle to separate. I don't want to hear those things

2693
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 7: about they don't need.

2694
01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,960
Speaker 1: It, they have If that's the case, like you said,

2695
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 1: just let them fight it out with the guys that

2696
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:14,880
Speaker 1: they have and hope somebody emerge.

2697
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,080
Speaker 5: And I would say, like, why can't you do both?

2698
01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:19,120
Speaker 5: Why can't Mike ra Abel look at it and say

2699
01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,720
Speaker 5: we're gonna do a better job of developing Polk and Baker,

2700
01:58:21,760 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 5: but we need to get better.

2701
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and push them too.

2702
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:26,320
Speaker 5: I mean, i'd say, because I think if Baker and

2703
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:31,240
Speaker 5: Polk develop, you still need playmakers. Like the best that

2704
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:34,839
Speaker 5: Polk is gonna be is sort of a possession receiver,

2705
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:38,240
Speaker 5: complimentary piece. They need playmakers. So why can't you look

2706
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:40,040
Speaker 5: for both? Why can't you hope that those guys are

2707
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 5: better than they looked last year and want to get better? Yep,

2708
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:45,920
Speaker 5: And yeah, Jags is only going to be around so long.

2709
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:47,240
Speaker 7: And I think that goes back to the heart of

2710
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:51,640
Speaker 7: the running back conversation, where it's like Henderson is not plotting,

2711
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:53,840
Speaker 7: you know big all right, We're gonna just ground him

2712
01:58:53,840 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 7: into the ground.

2713
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 5: The previous email a eleven yards a catch.

2714
01:58:57,000 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 4: That like for a running back's that's good, that's off.

2715
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:03,680
Speaker 5: That's better than slut receiversh Aaron Wright.

2716
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 4: So now that you're on video, I no longer need

2717
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:08,880
Speaker 4: to watch the draft somewhere. I do have some suggestions

2718
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 4: to improve the draft show and eliminate some of the

2719
01:59:11,360 --> 01:59:15,520
Speaker 4: whining about tippicks. One next up ticker to show who's

2720
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 4: picking next two Evan's best available picks ticker sidebar. So

2721
01:59:20,080 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 4: basically he wants to turn us into ESPN.

2722
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 8: Sure, I do like the best available because it's my

2723
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:27,120
Speaker 8: best three.

2724
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 4: Less Deuce and Evan, more Paul and Fred because this

2725
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 4: is just because I am too old for less football,

2726
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 4: more nonsense, and five. Tell me the pick sooner so

2727
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,560
Speaker 4: I can make money betting off my friends.

2728
01:59:39,840 --> 01:59:42,040
Speaker 8: So Jack Besh just went to the Raiders, and I'm

2729
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:45,280
Speaker 8: glad you brought Jack Besh up because I really liked

2730
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 8: the player. But like He's he's a power slot, right

2731
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 8: he A, He's a power slot, That's what he is.

2732
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:53,880
Speaker 8: And it just felt very redundant to me. It's another

2733
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:58,520
Speaker 8: guy that had, you know, issues or concerns with top

2734
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:02,160
Speaker 8: end speed and that sort of thing, and I just

2735
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 8: I didn't really love the fit because of that. You know,

2736
02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 8: if you're gonna add another receiver, I want to add

2737
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 8: a guy that's got big playability.

2738
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:12,240
Speaker 7: It's funny, like your Raiders unfiltered, what are they saying,

2739
02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:14,160
Speaker 7: We got Jacobe Myers and I got another Like it's

2740
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 7: kind of what I was talking about. It's, you know,

2741
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 7: not completely redundant love. Jacoby Myers a reliable guy, but but.

2742
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:22,800
Speaker 5: He's how much longer Seacon? I mean, there's a that

2743
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:27,520
Speaker 5: position gets a lot of wear and tear. So I

2744
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 5: don't think that most of them lasts very long. They're

2745
02:00:30,280 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 5: probably looking to move on.

2746
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:36,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, here comes the should they call him? Jacoby Myers

2747
02:00:36,120 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 8: calls uh, Mike Green is going to Baltimore. So the

2748
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 8: Ravens have the.

2749
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:45,040
Speaker 1: Zoo Boy and to work out for the rage.

2750
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:50,400
Speaker 5: There's only three, four, five teams that can say, Okay,

2751
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,680
Speaker 5: I took him and then he got in trouble and

2752
02:00:52,720 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 5: I had to cut him. Yeah, what are you gonna

2753
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:57,920
Speaker 5: get rid of? You know that that whole regime with

2754
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:01,520
Speaker 5: Harbaugh and and what's his name? Into cost But I

2755
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 5: just say, why am I blanking Costa?

2756
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 10: Right?

2757
02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 5: Costa?

2758
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:06,680
Speaker 2: Uh?

2759
02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 5: Those guys are entrenched. They do it as well as anybody.

2760
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 5: They're not. They're not going to lose their job over

2761
02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:13,720
Speaker 5: one bad pick, right, just and it doesn't work out.

2762
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:18,440
Speaker 7: Another great moment here with best They'll getting drafted, fantastic.

2763
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:21,040
Speaker 7: You can see the joy in that family's face after

2764
02:01:21,080 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 7: what they've been through over the last five months. It's just,

2765
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 7: you know, it's another moment in the draft that's just

2766
02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:28,680
Speaker 7: you know, heartwarming and nice to see and the reason

2767
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 7: why you just you love the sport.

2768
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 1: This is what it brings out of people.

2769
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 8: NFL route runner like really good route runner physically.

2770
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 5: Alan Robinson to use young No, I could use some

2771
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 5: young Allen Robinson coming out of Penn State.

2772
02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 7: Was I was just laughing at physical yeat because physically

2773
02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 7: and a couple of physical yacts in college after some

2774
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,320
Speaker 7: long nights of party and you don't want to be

2775
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:49,320
Speaker 7: the physical.

2776
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:53,200
Speaker 5: After some struggles on PP two Rolling Rocks you p

2777
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 5: P two.

2778
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 4: Uh, Tim's in Seattle. What's up, Tim, Seattle?

2779
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:07,320
Speaker 19: Big guys, I'm still seeing Kyle Kyle Williams from Washington State. Yeah,

2780
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:12,800
Speaker 19: I caught some of that guy out here. Obviously a

2781
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 19: local guy to me at least, I actually kind of

2782
02:02:16,840 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 19: see a bit of Steph Diggs in him, a little worried,

2783
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 19: just gonna get taken here. What do you guys think

2784
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:27,760
Speaker 19: about trading up? I guess you know, I could see

2785
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 19: actually Vegas maybe taking him. But what do you think

2786
02:02:31,680 --> 02:02:33,120
Speaker 19: about getting ahead of some of these.

2787
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 4: Other teams here and to get Kyle Williams.

2788
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:38,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I'm a big fan of Kyle Williams' game.

2789
02:02:38,840 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 5: Vegas did not take him, they took back.

2790
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 8: Well, they have another pick, that's what he's saying they

2791
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:46,760
Speaker 8: do in the third round.

2792
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, right before us.

2793
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 8: Right, but they're not going to take another receiver to

2794
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 8: Paul's point, but I mean that that would be the

2795
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,560
Speaker 8: guy right my point that I would.

2796
02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:01,920
Speaker 5: Take things not loading properly because I have the Raiders done.

2797
02:03:02,280 --> 02:03:05,880
Speaker 4: But the Raiders just picked back, but they have another

2798
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:06,760
Speaker 4: pick before us.

2799
02:03:08,080 --> 02:03:10,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it ends my round, ends mind.

2800
02:03:11,000 --> 02:03:14,880
Speaker 8: Jalen Nole also still available. Yeah, so between those two guys,

2801
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 8: if they picked either one of those guys, I'd be

2802
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:17,680
Speaker 8: really happy with that.

2803
02:03:18,040 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 4: You guys want to hear from Trevion Henderson, Sure, yeah,

2804
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 4: what's let's let's hear it.

2805
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:26,760
Speaker 20: Matt Hey Trivia. Welcome to New England. My name is Andrea,

2806
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:30,800
Speaker 20: worked for the Boston Herald. First of all, how you feeling, man.

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02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm feeling. I'm feeling amazing, man, I'm feeling I'm excited. Good.

2808
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:38,160
Speaker 20: Can you take us through from when your college season ends,

2809
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 20: obviously with the championship, all the way through tonight. The

2810
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,960
Speaker 20: times you've spoken with the Patriots met with them, Where

2811
02:03:43,960 --> 02:03:45,640
Speaker 20: were you what did you talk about?

2812
02:03:46,720 --> 02:03:51,160
Speaker 21: Yeah, I think only did one zoom meeting with the

2813
02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:55,200
Speaker 21: running backs coach, and so other than that, you know, honestly,

2814
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:56,600
Speaker 21: you know, I had I.

2815
02:03:56,520 --> 02:03:59,160
Speaker 2: Had no clue that you know, New England was going

2816
02:03:59,200 --> 02:04:01,600
Speaker 2: to be the spot. Uh, it was definitely. It was

2817
02:04:01,640 --> 02:04:02,720
Speaker 2: definitely a surprise for me.

2818
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 5: Tan you're gonna your head coach is Mike Rabel, who's

2819
02:04:10,480 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 5: in Ohio state along then must excite you.

2820
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:13,240
Speaker 4: A little bit.

2821
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:17,560
Speaker 21: Oh yeah, most definitely. You know, I know, I think

2822
02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:19,879
Speaker 21: I'll watched the video. You know, he's trying to rebuild

2823
02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:22,600
Speaker 21: the culture there and so man, I'm excited, you know,

2824
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:24,800
Speaker 21: I'm excited to be a part you know what what

2825
02:04:24,880 --> 02:04:28,440
Speaker 21: he's what he's looking to accomplish.

2826
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 2: Travion.

2827
02:04:29,720 --> 02:04:32,080
Speaker 3: For those who don't know you, how would you describe

2828
02:04:32,120 --> 02:04:32,560
Speaker 3: your game?

2829
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:39,480
Speaker 21: I say, I'm fast, I'm explosive. You know, I'm good

2830
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 21: and one on one matchups, you know, my receiving, the ability,

2831
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:45,640
Speaker 21: my blocking, you know, I'm pretty I pretty much.

2832
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 2: Can do it all.

2833
02:04:49,480 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 18: Him. I'm Sophia, but a I'm just curious.

2834
02:04:53,760 --> 02:04:56,240
Speaker 8: What are you familiar with trait May at all? His

2835
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,720
Speaker 8: style of play, and just what's your level of excitement

2836
02:04:58,760 --> 02:05:00,320
Speaker 8: to kind of get in here and with.

2837
02:05:00,280 --> 02:05:01,240
Speaker 13: Him as your cornerback.

2838
02:05:02,360 --> 02:05:04,640
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm familiar with him. Great, great player. You know,

2839
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:08,720
Speaker 21: I'm excited, you know, to play alongside of him, and yeah,

2840
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:10,640
Speaker 21: you know, I just I can't I can't wait to

2841
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:12,360
Speaker 21: get started, you know, to get there and get started

2842
02:05:12,360 --> 02:05:14,560
Speaker 21: to get to work with him.

2843
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 22: Trevian, how did your experience the last four years at

2844
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:20,160
Speaker 22: Ohio State prepare you for this opportunity?

2845
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:22,600
Speaker 9: You've had some ups and downs, but how did that

2846
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:24,680
Speaker 9: experience prepare you to play in the NFL.

2847
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:29,600
Speaker 21: Yeah, you know, man, I'm thankful. You know, I heard

2848
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 21: a lot you know from the players in the past.

2849
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 21: You know who played in the past, you know who

2850
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 21: played their NFL careers. How they said Ohio State did

2851
02:05:37,000 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 21: a good job of preparing him for what's next. And

2852
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:41,160
Speaker 21: so you know, all the meeting is pretty much this

2853
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:43,680
Speaker 21: whole draft process. I can say, you know, Ohio State

2854
02:05:43,720 --> 02:05:45,720
Speaker 21: prepared me for that, and you know, I'm believing, you know,

2855
02:05:45,760 --> 02:05:48,360
Speaker 21: what they put us through will prepare me. You know,

2856
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:51,000
Speaker 21: have prepared me for you know, when I take those steps,

2857
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:53,840
Speaker 21: you know, and get there. You know, the New England

2858
02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:58,440
Speaker 21: and so.

2859
02:05:56,400 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 20: Trivian, how familiar are you with Josh McDaniels and how

2860
02:06:00,600 --> 02:06:02,839
Speaker 20: he used it running backs within his offense.

2861
02:06:04,480 --> 02:06:08,000
Speaker 21: Yeah, I'm not too familiar with it, but I'm looking.

2862
02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:11,240
Speaker 21: I'm excited, you know, to learn, you know, to get

2863
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:15,120
Speaker 21: coach Bob and so yeah, you know, I'm excited. You know,

2864
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:16,400
Speaker 21: I'm just excited to.

2865
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:18,680
Speaker 2: Learn and grow, Trivia.

2866
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:21,280
Speaker 23: One of the big things we've seen go through notes

2867
02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,400
Speaker 23: is ball security and how well do you took care

2868
02:06:23,440 --> 02:06:25,960
Speaker 23: of the ball to Ohio State? How important is that

2869
02:06:26,120 --> 02:06:27,160
Speaker 23: for you as a player?

2870
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:29,040
Speaker 2: Very important?

2871
02:06:30,080 --> 02:06:32,320
Speaker 21: You know, one of the something we did almost every

2872
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:33,360
Speaker 21: week at Ohio State.

2873
02:06:33,800 --> 02:06:36,360
Speaker 2: And I know we put the ball on the ground.

2874
02:06:36,400 --> 02:06:38,240
Speaker 21: You know, it's the high possibility you're coming out and

2875
02:06:38,240 --> 02:06:40,920
Speaker 21: you're probably not playing a game, and so that encouraged

2876
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:42,480
Speaker 21: me a lot, you know, to hold on to the

2877
02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:44,800
Speaker 21: ball because it can cause the team, especially in those

2878
02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:47,080
Speaker 21: big matchup games, and so you know, that's something that

2879
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 21: I'm looking forward to carrying on to the next level

2880
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:49,840
Speaker 21: as well, just holding.

2881
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 2: On to the ball.

2882
02:06:51,400 --> 02:06:54,080
Speaker 23: I also want to know about how good is your

2883
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 23: trophy security, because you showed that at the White House

2884
02:06:56,880 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 23: with the fumbled JD Vans.

2885
02:06:58,760 --> 02:07:01,720
Speaker 3: Is that something you can promise to Patriots fans?

2886
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:03,520
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I can't.

2887
02:07:03,560 --> 02:07:06,680
Speaker 21: I can't make a promise, but uh yeah, I'll just say,

2888
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 21: you know, I'm gonna.

2889
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 2: Give it everything that I got to hold onto that ball.

2890
02:07:11,520 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 20: Just going back for a second, so you said you

2891
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 20: have the zoom call with coach dous Nothing, it's combined,

2892
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 20: no proda if you if you ever talked with coach Rabel.

2893
02:07:19,960 --> 02:07:20,960
Speaker 2: No, I don't.

2894
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 21: I don't recall having a meeting with them.

2895
02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, there was honestly a surprise. It is a

2896
02:07:27,160 --> 02:07:29,440
Speaker 2: surprise for sure, Trevian.

2897
02:07:29,600 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 23: How much do you know about the running backs on

2898
02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:34,280
Speaker 23: the Patriot's roster Remindra Stevenson and Antonio Gibson, And what

2899
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,200
Speaker 23: are your thoughts about joining that room.

2900
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:40,680
Speaker 21: Yeah, you know, I'm excited to really learn from those guys. Man,

2901
02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 21: I'm excited to be part of that room. And yeah,

2902
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:45,280
Speaker 21: looking to build and grow with those guys. You know,

2903
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:46,440
Speaker 21: I'm looking forward to that.

2904
02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 24: Trevian, generally running backs some bit of a transition or

2905
02:07:51,480 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 24: a struggle to pick up pass protection schemes, blitzes.

2906
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:56,400
Speaker 4: You seem to be really good at it.

2907
02:07:56,440 --> 02:07:58,440
Speaker 16: How did you get to be just good at it

2908
02:07:58,520 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 16: at this stage your career?

2909
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:03,200
Speaker 21: Yeah, getting developed at Ohio State, you know, the coaches

2910
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 21: there and just competing against some of the best players

2911
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 21: every day in practice, you know, help helped me out

2912
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 21: a lot. And so that's something I continue to look,

2913
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:13,200
Speaker 21: you know, to work at and bring on to the leaders.

2914
02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 2: You know.

2915
02:08:13,560 --> 02:08:15,520
Speaker 21: I know that's very important, you know, as a running back,

2916
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:17,880
Speaker 21: and so that's something that I got to definitely continue

2917
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:19,760
Speaker 21: to work at and making sure I'm staying on top

2918
02:08:19,800 --> 02:08:21,960
Speaker 21: of trivia and with.

2919
02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:22,600
Speaker 22: The Zoom meeting.

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02:08:22,720 --> 02:08:25,200
Speaker 23: When was that and what else do you remember about that?

2921
02:08:27,520 --> 02:08:29,560
Speaker 21: I don't remember when it was. It was more so

2922
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:32,160
Speaker 21: I believe it's like early on you know, after the

2923
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 21: after the combine, I believe, and so you know, it's

2924
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:38,280
Speaker 21: more so just getting to know your background, seeing how

2925
02:08:38,320 --> 02:08:40,400
Speaker 21: well do you know ball, how fast can you pick

2926
02:08:40,440 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 21: up the system?

2927
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:43,760
Speaker 2: And I believe I did a pretty good job.

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02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:46,120
Speaker 21: You know, I don't if I if I did a

2929
02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 21: bad job, I don't know if they would have picked me. So, yeah,

2930
02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:51,520
Speaker 21: I think I did a good job.

2931
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 22: This through just the whole moment.

2932
02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 4: Who was with you and you got the call and

2933
02:08:56,440 --> 02:08:59,560
Speaker 4: just what your reaction was like when you saw the

2934
02:08:59,640 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 4: number come.

2935
02:09:00,200 --> 02:09:01,080
Speaker 18: Across your screen.

2936
02:09:02,040 --> 02:09:04,480
Speaker 21: Yeah, I was with my mom and dad, my grandma,

2937
02:09:05,200 --> 02:09:07,760
Speaker 21: both of my grandmothers, and my brother on the couch, and.

2938
02:09:09,200 --> 02:09:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I got that call, it was It's crazy.

2939
02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:14,960
Speaker 21: I didn't I didn't even know who had who had

2940
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:16,720
Speaker 21: to pick at the time as well, because I forgot

2941
02:09:16,720 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 21: what was on the TV at the time.

2942
02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:19,160
Speaker 2: And so when I was.

2943
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:21,200
Speaker 21: Getting a call, you know, I was I was shocked.

2944
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:24,400
Speaker 21: I was definitely shocked. And yeah, the excided. You know,

2945
02:09:24,640 --> 02:09:27,000
Speaker 21: I prayed on this. You know, there's been a lot

2946
02:09:27,040 --> 02:09:30,320
Speaker 21: of sacrifices, you know, a lot of hard work, and

2947
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 21: so you know, I'm just thankful that God has put

2948
02:09:32,440 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 21: me in this position and that he's leading me to

2949
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 21: New England. You know, I know it's for a great reason.

2950
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:37,600
Speaker 2: And so.

2951
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:42,880
Speaker 17: I did touch Rabel have a message for you when

2952
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:43,840
Speaker 17: when you were picked.

2953
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I'm not gonna lie to y'all.

2954
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:52,880
Speaker 21: The moment went by so fast. I barely I barely

2955
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:56,400
Speaker 21: remember too much. I was so I was so excited.

2956
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 21: It was going by so fast. Yeah, there was just

2957
02:09:59,720 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 21: some you most as I barely remember. We're going to

2958
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,320
Speaker 21: finish up with two final questions from online here, So

2959
02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:09,919
Speaker 21: we're going to start with Taylor Kyles Travion.

2960
02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,080
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. Man, Welcome to New Witlntngrats

2961
02:10:12,160 --> 02:10:12,920
Speaker 2: on getting drafted.

2962
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:15,520
Speaker 21: I read in the scouting report that said that you're

2963
02:10:15,560 --> 02:10:17,680
Speaker 21: motivated by your mother, So I'm curious. Can you tell

2964
02:10:17,720 --> 02:10:19,800
Speaker 21: us a little bit about that relationship and why she

2965
02:10:19,880 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 21: inspires you so much? Yeah, she she inspires me a lot,

2966
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,120
Speaker 21: and definitely definitely when I was younger, you know, seeing

2967
02:10:27,160 --> 02:10:30,480
Speaker 21: all the sacrifices, everything that she had to sacrifice to

2968
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:32,280
Speaker 21: help her out from me and my other two brothers.

2969
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 2: You know, she she worked really hard.

2970
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 21: And you know when Tom got tough, you know, she

2971
02:10:39,120 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 21: she didn't give up, you know, and so that was

2972
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 21: more so my encouragement. You know, when I first got

2973
02:10:43,800 --> 02:10:46,440
Speaker 21: to Ohio State, when Tom got tough, you know, just

2974
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 21: seeing everything that she went through and her not giving

2975
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 21: up and encouraged me.

2976
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:51,120
Speaker 2: You know, when Tom got tough to I give up.

2977
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I'm thankful. Thank you again.

2978
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:56,080
Speaker 18: Sorry.

2979
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,040
Speaker 25: The final question from Chris Ryan.

2980
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:02,160
Speaker 26: Hey, congrats, that's welcome to UH to New England. Just

2981
02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:06,440
Speaker 26: what excites you the most about this particular opportunity and

2982
02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:10,320
Speaker 26: what kind of your initial thoughts on what this team

2983
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:11,480
Speaker 26: is and what you can bring.

2984
02:11:12,640 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 21: Yeah, what excites me the most, you know, is just

2985
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:22,560
Speaker 21: being part of the culture. You know, I'm just excited

2986
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:24,720
Speaker 21: to learn about the culture, to learn about what they're

2987
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:27,800
Speaker 21: trying to do there, and I believe, you know, they're

2988
02:11:27,800 --> 02:11:30,240
Speaker 21: trying to you know, they're trying to compete for Super Bowl,

2989
02:11:30,360 --> 02:11:32,840
Speaker 21: and so you know, I'm just excited to come there,

2990
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:35,000
Speaker 21: and I know God is leading me there for a reason,

2991
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:37,760
Speaker 21: and so you know, I'm just walking by faith, and

2992
02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:40,600
Speaker 21: you know, I don't I don't understand it all now,

2993
02:11:40,680 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 21: but you know eventually I will, you know, eventually, I will.

2994
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:47,520
Speaker 21: So yeah, I'm just I'm honestly just excited, you know, and.

2995
02:11:47,480 --> 02:11:49,480
Speaker 26: How do you feel that you're run with Ohio State

2996
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:52,840
Speaker 26: kind of prepared you for a playoff type football, the

2997
02:11:52,920 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 26: type of you know environment this team is looking to

2998
02:11:55,640 --> 02:11:57,080
Speaker 26: you have to get to where you guys faced a

2999
02:11:57,120 --> 02:11:59,200
Speaker 26: lot of adversity this year, particularly after the Michigan game.

3000
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 26: But what did you learn about, you know, what it

3001
02:12:01,480 --> 02:12:03,640
Speaker 26: takes to win in those types of situations.

3002
02:12:04,640 --> 02:12:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think the biggest thing is just.

3003
02:12:08,480 --> 02:12:10,560
Speaker 21: You know, at Ohio State we talked about the brotherhood,

3004
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:14,320
Speaker 21: and last year the brotherhood was really special. You know,

3005
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:17,240
Speaker 21: when times got tough, you know, we stayed together. And

3006
02:12:17,520 --> 02:12:19,520
Speaker 21: I believe a big part of that is because of

3007
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:22,720
Speaker 21: our faith in Jesus and so, you know, I'm just.

3008
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:25,760
Speaker 2: That's that's the most important thing.

3009
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:26,200
Speaker 10: You know.

3010
02:12:26,440 --> 02:12:28,920
Speaker 21: It's just you know, we have to be willing to

3011
02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:30,800
Speaker 21: love each other, to fight for each other, to be

3012
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 21: all you know, brought in and have the same goal

3013
02:12:33,160 --> 02:12:35,840
Speaker 21: in mind. And yeah, you know, I'm just decided how

3014
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:37,920
Speaker 21: I can be part of that, you know, how I

3015
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 21: can learn, however I can grow, you know, That's what

3016
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:42,280
Speaker 21: I'm That's what I'm willing to do. You know, they're

3017
02:12:42,280 --> 02:12:44,360
Speaker 21: willing to help the team however. You know, however, I

3018
02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:48,840
Speaker 21: can so thank you, yep, thank you, thank.

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Speaker 25: You very much for your time and congratulations.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much, appreciate John.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, that's Trevon Henderson, newest running back for

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Speaker 4: the New England Patriots. And I have a question, so

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Speaker 4: does the obviously he's probably doing this from his home.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine does the league send every player of

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Speaker 4: thirty two caps so that whoever picks them they can

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Speaker 4: just throw on a cap.

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Speaker 8: I do believe they do. Yeah, I think that the question.

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Speaker 8: They send a box of thirty two of them, but

3029
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Speaker 8: not to I don't think it's to every prospect. It's

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Speaker 8: probably just like the consensus top one hundred guys or

3031
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Speaker 8: something like that. I don't think the guy's picking in

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Speaker 8: the seventh round or getting hats.

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Speaker 7: I had a similar question for about the Jerseys and

3034
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Speaker 7: how the guys were able to get up there and

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Speaker 7: they already and they had a little behind the scenes

3036
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Speaker 7: thing on the NFL about they have like the jersey

3037
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Speaker 7: printer in the back right there and as soon as

3038
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Speaker 7: the pick is like coming in, they tell the guy

3039
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Speaker 7: and he's putting it together right away.

3040
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Speaker 4: So yeah, maybe that's why they need to delay before

3041
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Speaker 4: they announced it so they can get the jersey right right.

3042
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Speaker 4: Maybe we've collected we've overthought it. We think it's always

3043
02:13:49,440 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 4: about rating. No, it's about getting that damn jersey right.

3044
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Speaker 1: The jersey is ready all right.

3045
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Speaker 4: We already knew that, So that was What do you

3046
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Speaker 4: think after listening to him?

3047
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's about what I expect.

3048
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Speaker 7: It sounded like, you know, well spoken guy and a

3049
02:14:04,320 --> 02:14:07,440
Speaker 7: guy who really seems to understand himself his role in

3050
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Speaker 7: the offense and what he does well. And I'm excited

3051
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Speaker 7: to at him, you know, into the mix. I think

3052
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:14,160
Speaker 7: it's always hard with like the first thing I always

3053
02:14:14,160 --> 02:14:16,520
Speaker 7: think about is getting first glimpses of these guys. And

3054
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Speaker 7: it's so hard to get excited about running backs in

3055
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Speaker 7: the spring and summer when you really can't tell till

3056
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Speaker 7: you get into the game.

3057
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Speaker 1: So there's that part of it.

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Speaker 7: We'll see some intrigue probably maybe during training camp when

3059
02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:29,200
Speaker 7: the Pats come on a little bit, but you don't

3060
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Speaker 7: really get a sense of what these guys are going

3061
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Speaker 7: to contribute till you get to the game. So they'll

3062
02:14:32,440 --> 02:14:35,120
Speaker 7: be an element of unknown with Henderson, how big his

3063
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Speaker 7: role is going to be, how they're going to divide

3064
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Speaker 7: up the carries once we get to the regular season.

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Speaker 4: I think, Matt, we'll take one. We'll come back with

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Speaker 4: more calls and emails and picks here on Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 27: Buddy, we're happy as hell and we're excited for you.

3142
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Speaker 27: Make sure you thank everybody that that helps you get here.

3143
02:18:44,560 --> 02:19:01,600
Speaker 10: Okay, sir, family, how you.

3144
02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:05,000
Speaker 5: Doing man, I'm doing good. Hey, this is Cam.

3145
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Speaker 1: Williams from the Patriots.

3146
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Speaker 28: Man.

3147
02:19:06,000 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 4: I got I got Elliot Wolf right here.

3148
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Speaker 10: He's on the line. He's ready to fulfill you in

3149
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:10,480
Speaker 10: on some things.

3150
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Speaker 29: Yes, sir, congratulations man, we're gonna make you our first round.

3151
02:19:15,959 --> 02:19:16,119
Speaker 10: Tick.

3152
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:18,480
Speaker 4: You're in New England, Patriots Man, Thank you.

3153
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Speaker 29: I appreciate it all right, man, he's cut ready.

3154
02:19:24,240 --> 02:19:26,640
Speaker 10: Buddy, We're we're happy as hell. We're excited for you.

3155
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Speaker 27: Make sure you thank everybody that that helps you get here. Okay, there, girl,

3156
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Speaker 27: you've got a great story.

3157
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Speaker 10: You're about everything that we are.

3158
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Speaker 27: So, yes, sir, well, we're looking forward to seeing you

3159
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Speaker 27: tomorrow and uh, we'll get this thing going.

3160
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Speaker 10: And and we're excited to have you. Okay, yes, sir,

3161
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Speaker 10: thank you, I appreciate it. Well, just thank everybody that

3162
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Speaker 10: helps you get here. I'm gonna let you talk to mister.

3163
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Speaker 11: Kraftar Okay, yes, sir, thanks will Yes, sir, Well what's

3164
02:19:59,440 --> 02:19:59,879
Speaker 11: going on?

3165
02:20:01,000 --> 02:20:08,840
Speaker 10: Congratuately, I'm excited to be there. Yeah, we're gonna You're

3166
02:20:08,879 --> 02:20:14,320
Speaker 10: gonna hopefully help us to strengthen that person. And I

3167
02:20:14,400 --> 02:20:17,840
Speaker 10: look forward to meeting you in person. Thank you. I

3168
02:20:17,920 --> 02:20:20,839
Speaker 10: appreciate it. All right, you'll be well.

3169
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Speaker 4: All right back here on Patriots Unfiltered. That was a

3170
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Speaker 4: little inside the draft room after the pick of what's.

3171
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Speaker 5: The first time I've seen that? Yeah, yeah, I hadn't.

3172
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Speaker 4: You don't go to Patriots dot com anymore.

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Speaker 2: I do.

3174
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Speaker 5: But we've been busy.

3175
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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm chip for last night, that's true.

3176
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Speaker 1: Yeah, got home, reviewed all the content.

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Speaker 10: Did you.

3178
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Speaker 5: I went home, went to sleep.

3179
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Speaker 4: I went home and tried to get to sleep.

3180
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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, it's not easy.

3181
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Speaker 4: Okay, So, and we're probably gonna have something similar tonight

3182
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Speaker 4: after the Henderson call in the draft room. So look

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Speaker 4: for Patriots dot Com and Patriots Social all night and

3184
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Speaker 4: tomorrow for for some great content.

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Speaker 7: It's always a great sign when your two n e's

3186
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Speaker 7: are on the ticker. You can see the last two picks.

3187
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Speaker 5: Now or are there so tons.

3188
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Speaker 1: In sight of this round? And I agree to get interested?

3189
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Speaker 5: I agree that just gives you a little at the

3190
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Speaker 5: end of the tune.

3191
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're heading to the beginning of the third round.

3192
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Speaker 4: The Chiefs selections in and they were at sixty three.

3193
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Speaker 5: Would they take.

3194
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Speaker 4: Yes, they took Omar Norman Lott.

3195
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Speaker 8: A lot of those defensive linemen Ano they're penetrating, you know,

3196
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Speaker 8: up the field player good uh, back to back Shamar

3197
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Speaker 8: Turner Omar Norman Lott. I basically thought they were like

3198
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Speaker 8: Spider Man meme style, the same players. They both played

3199
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Speaker 8: in the SEC. They both played the same exact way,

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Speaker 8: and they both went like within the like what two

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Speaker 8: picks of each other, three picks of each other? So

3202
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Speaker 8: similar players. But you know, sh we do a little

3203
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Speaker 8: best player available right now and with pop Patriots get

3204
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Speaker 8: getting close here. Darius Alexander, I think is probably the

3205
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Speaker 8: best player from Toledo defensive tackle. Jalen Knowle appreci out there.

3206
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that of.

3207
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Speaker 8: Him, you know, Jalen Royals, Kyle Williams. A couple of

3208
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Speaker 8: receivers still out there. Jordan Burch from Oregon I think

3209
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Speaker 8: is a solid edge rusher Landon Jackson Ano. There could

3210
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Speaker 8: be another variable kind of guy, you know that that

3211
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Speaker 8: type of personality, that type of play demeanor. A couple

3212
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Speaker 8: of corners that are still out there as well. Savon

3213
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Speaker 8: Revel dropping because of that injury. He's coming off a

3214
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Speaker 8: torn acl so that's why he's still available. First for

3215
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Speaker 8: top fifty talent, still available because.

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Speaker 24: Of the injury.

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Speaker 4: Dennis Wright saying, he says, just to balance the critics,

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Speaker 4: I enjoy Evans' comments and knowledge. Deuce is quiet and

3219
02:22:52,720 --> 02:22:56,080
Speaker 4: gets talked over by everyone. Fred is always defending himself.

3220
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Speaker 4: Paul and Bart just like to be heard and argue

3221
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Speaker 4: a lot, and I both unfiltered and Cash twenty two

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Speaker 4: my fiftieth year as a Patriot.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Alex. He likes to argue a lot. Yeah,

3224
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Speaker 5: but like I have to keep that mind because I

3225
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Speaker 5: commonly do some things on Sundays with Barthy and I'll

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Speaker 5: look to take advantage of that.

3227
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Speaker 4: Not always he's take guy. He likes to come up

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Speaker 4: with a take and then defend it.

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Speaker 8: You know, that's the sports that way. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 8: mean he's a sports radio guy. That's what he does.

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Speaker 4: Do you watch his Sunday morning I listened to a

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Speaker 4: Sunday morning show.

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Speaker 8: I don't usually listen on Sunday, but I do listen

3234
02:23:33,640 --> 02:23:36,360
Speaker 8: to him whenever he's on during during the day, like

3235
02:23:36,400 --> 02:23:36,680
Speaker 8: on the.

3236
02:23:36,800 --> 02:23:39,400
Speaker 4: I listen because I'm usually like driving around doing errands

3237
02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:40,120
Speaker 4: Sunday mornings.

3238
02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:42,240
Speaker 5: I do a lot of Saturday mornings, but I don't

3239
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:43,560
Speaker 5: hear a lot of Sunday mornings.

3240
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:45,680
Speaker 4: And he's got a two hour show on Sunday.

3241
02:23:45,720 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 5: No, I know, I got to do this Sunday for

3242
02:23:47,879 --> 02:23:50,560
Speaker 5: four hours with Big Joe Murray. Oh we'll be talking

3243
02:23:50,560 --> 02:23:51,039
Speaker 5: beast bro.

3244
02:23:51,160 --> 02:23:52,400
Speaker 4: Oh so you're on that show.

3245
02:23:52,400 --> 02:23:56,920
Speaker 5: I'm on ten to two on Sunday. But yeah, absolutely, no,

3246
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:57,560
Speaker 5: you kidding me?

3247
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:01,680
Speaker 1: A lot of probably, Yeah, yeah, I'll.

3248
02:24:01,560 --> 02:24:04,240
Speaker 5: Be tapping into Mike dude, you got you got forty

3249
02:24:04,280 --> 02:24:04,800
Speaker 5: five minutes.

3250
02:24:05,720 --> 02:24:08,000
Speaker 4: I was actually listening home last Sunday because I was

3251
02:24:08,000 --> 02:24:10,840
Speaker 4: outside painting, and so I had him on and he

3252
02:24:11,000 --> 02:24:14,560
Speaker 4: was going on a rant about re enactments. Oh no, no,

3253
02:24:14,640 --> 02:24:16,680
Speaker 4: you know what that was Big Jim Murray that was

3254
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:19,240
Speaker 4: doing that. He went on a rant about reinact like

3255
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:21,440
Speaker 4: the you know the Lexington I was just there, like

3256
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:23,440
Speaker 4: why are they doing this? You know the guy I

3257
02:24:23,680 --> 02:24:27,480
Speaker 4: covered it. I did Winslow that he gets shot and

3258
02:24:27,480 --> 02:24:29,040
Speaker 4: then he gets back up and like somebody said, what

3259
02:24:29,080 --> 02:24:32,280
Speaker 4: do you expect them to like really kill him. He's like,

3260
02:24:32,280 --> 02:24:33,400
Speaker 4: if you gotta do it, do it.

3261
02:24:33,440 --> 02:24:36,360
Speaker 7: I'm going to defend reenactments little bit because I've never

3262
02:24:36,360 --> 02:24:39,879
Speaker 7: really been to a real reenactment, but we went Kellen

3263
02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:41,879
Speaker 7: and I. We were there four in the morning on Saturday,

3264
02:24:42,320 --> 02:24:44,800
Speaker 7: uh full reenactment in Lexington for the two hundred and

3265
02:24:44,840 --> 02:24:47,840
Speaker 7: fiftieth anniversary. There was a little bit of pomp and circumstances,

3266
02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:53,080
Speaker 7: but like I was telling Paul, it was so cool

3267
02:24:53,240 --> 02:24:56,760
Speaker 7: to see the actual you know, the American military, I

3268
02:24:56,800 --> 02:24:58,760
Speaker 7: guess at that point just calling us like lining up

3269
02:24:58,800 --> 02:25:00,720
Speaker 7: and there's like twenty of them. And then to get

3270
02:25:00,800 --> 02:25:03,120
Speaker 7: the visual sense of the British Army marching in all

3271
02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:06,760
Speaker 7: in the red coats, they're all uniform, they're all in file,

3272
02:25:06,920 --> 02:25:09,119
Speaker 7: and it just you can read it one hundred times

3273
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:10,760
Speaker 7: in a history book, but until you're like standing in

3274
02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:12,800
Speaker 7: the actual place that had happened two hundred and fift

3275
02:25:12,840 --> 02:25:14,640
Speaker 7: years ago to the minute, and you see exactly and

3276
02:25:14,840 --> 02:25:16,840
Speaker 7: he's right though, there's like I noticed there was one

3277
02:25:16,879 --> 02:25:19,920
Speaker 7: guy right before the British charge they put their bayonets

3278
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:21,560
Speaker 7: on and that's when the Americans were like, all right,

3279
02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:23,520
Speaker 7: let's scatter, and then a shot goes off.

3280
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:25,480
Speaker 1: You don't know which side. That's the history, and then

3281
02:25:25,480 --> 02:25:27,200
Speaker 1: they opened fire. But right as that.

3282
02:25:27,160 --> 02:25:30,320
Speaker 7: Happens, one of the British reactors like runs.

3283
02:25:30,080 --> 02:25:32,680
Speaker 1: Up and like fake staffs one of the guys.

3284
02:25:32,440 --> 02:25:32,879
Speaker 4: On the ground.

3285
02:25:32,920 --> 02:25:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, this is really it's kind

3286
02:25:34,920 --> 02:25:35,240
Speaker 1: of funny.

3287
02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:37,280
Speaker 7: And then for the next ten minutes, the guy's got

3288
02:25:37,280 --> 02:25:39,000
Speaker 7: to land on the ground, right, you know, in this

3289
02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:40,680
Speaker 7: awkward position that he happened to choose.

3290
02:25:40,680 --> 02:25:41,760
Speaker 1: So I get what he's saying.

3291
02:25:41,760 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 7: There is some comedy there, but I still think it

3292
02:25:43,280 --> 02:25:45,760
Speaker 7: was pretty cool to kind of see what it actually

3293
02:25:45,840 --> 02:25:47,400
Speaker 7: looked like in the place that it actually.

3294
02:25:47,240 --> 02:25:50,039
Speaker 4: It's so excited about it, like history, you were there

3295
02:25:50,120 --> 02:25:51,119
Speaker 4: for the morning.

3296
02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:51,680
Speaker 1: We were there for them.

3297
02:25:51,720 --> 02:25:53,680
Speaker 7: Well, I mean they had to do the real time,

3298
02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:55,480
Speaker 7: which it started like five point fifteen.

3299
02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:57,520
Speaker 1: But you know, first it's like and this is mine

3300
02:25:57,520 --> 02:25:59,680
Speaker 1: on the women and children then went to this place

3301
02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:00,840
Speaker 1: and then you see like a bunch of women that

3302
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:02,000
Speaker 1: old kind of run across.

3303
02:26:01,800 --> 02:26:03,480
Speaker 7: The field with some stuff, and you know, like it's like,

3304
02:26:04,040 --> 02:26:06,039
Speaker 7: just get to the shooting part to come on, I want.

3305
02:26:05,840 --> 02:26:06,200
Speaker 8: To see it.

3306
02:26:06,280 --> 02:26:07,760
Speaker 5: So but it was cool. It was cool.

3307
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:08,960
Speaker 1: We got some shots, you know. I mean, because of

3308
02:26:08,959 --> 02:26:11,520
Speaker 1: course we're the Patriots. They're like, what who are you with?

3309
02:26:11,640 --> 02:26:13,840
Speaker 7: And I'm like with the New England Patriots, the football

3310
02:26:13,959 --> 02:26:14,920
Speaker 7: the football Patriots.

3311
02:26:15,879 --> 02:26:16,360
Speaker 4: There you go.

3312
02:26:16,680 --> 02:26:18,280
Speaker 5: So we are officially through round two.

3313
02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:23,400
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so the Patriots.

3314
02:26:21,360 --> 02:26:26,800
Speaker 5: Are Andrew h Safety from Texas. I hate the Eagles, wife,

3315
02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:27,760
Speaker 5: I'm taking good players.

3316
02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:30,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's just like, all right, that's up one time.

3317
02:26:31,879 --> 02:26:36,680
Speaker 4: Wait for the Patriots to get the clock here. Let's

3318
02:26:36,760 --> 02:26:42,120
Speaker 4: go to our phones. Dave is in the Philippines. What's up, Dave? Oh?

3319
02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:45,840
Speaker 28: Not much? Good morning guys for you.

3320
02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:47,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

3321
02:26:47,760 --> 02:26:53,160
Speaker 28: I like the first two pick so far, and I

3322
02:26:53,560 --> 02:26:56,280
Speaker 28: love the interview with Will Campbell. It seems like he's

3323
02:26:56,320 --> 02:27:01,640
Speaker 28: a really good guy. I really called because I want

3324
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:09,600
Speaker 28: to vent if that's okay with you guys. I went

3325
02:27:09,720 --> 02:27:15,360
Speaker 28: to YouTube after y'all's draft show yesterday and I started

3326
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 28: watching clips of reactions to the draft. The first one

3327
02:27:21,560 --> 02:27:26,959
Speaker 28: I watched was EEI and there were four guys there

3328
02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:31,880
Speaker 28: and they seemed like they really hated the pit. Full disclosure,

3329
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:34,240
Speaker 28: I didn't watch the whole clip because I got really

3330
02:27:34,400 --> 02:27:38,160
Speaker 28: foed about what they were saying. Then another clip I

3331
02:27:38,280 --> 02:27:41,960
Speaker 28: watched had Sims on it, and this is the one

3332
02:27:42,000 --> 02:27:45,000
Speaker 28: that really got me because the first words out of

3333
02:27:45,080 --> 02:27:49,240
Speaker 28: Sim's mouth is he's a guard. He's a guard. He's

3334
02:27:49,280 --> 02:27:53,840
Speaker 28: never I won't say he's never. He's played left tackle

3335
02:27:54,280 --> 02:27:58,039
Speaker 28: the whole time he was in college. They picked him,

3336
02:27:58,360 --> 02:28:02,120
Speaker 28: and I trust the coaching app they picked him to

3337
02:28:02,200 --> 02:28:05,160
Speaker 28: be the left tackle. And the first word out of

3338
02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:06,360
Speaker 28: Sim's mouth is.

3339
02:28:06,640 --> 02:28:07,280
Speaker 9: He's a guard.

3340
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:12,120
Speaker 4: So well, yeah, I would take that and I would

3341
02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:15,600
Speaker 4: play it for him, and I would say this, you know,

3342
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:17,240
Speaker 4: prove this guy wrong.

3343
02:28:19,360 --> 02:28:24,160
Speaker 28: I look at it is the scouts and the coaching

3344
02:28:24,280 --> 02:28:28,640
Speaker 28: staff have spent a lot more time, in my opinion,

3345
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:33,960
Speaker 28: a lot more time watching this guy and and evaluating

3346
02:28:34,040 --> 02:28:37,000
Speaker 28: this guy, and they do it as a left tackle,

3347
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:40,960
Speaker 28: and all of a sudden, Sims just says he's a guard.

3348
02:28:41,720 --> 02:28:44,240
Speaker 28: That really just it frosted me.

3349
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:48,000
Speaker 4: That's why I wanted. That's exactly the reaction he was

3350
02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:51,720
Speaker 4: looking for, Dave. He that's why Sims has done that before.

3351
02:28:51,760 --> 02:28:54,280
Speaker 4: He likes to, you know, come out with those takes.

3352
02:28:54,320 --> 02:28:58,039
Speaker 4: But that's he's looking for that visceral reaction that you.

3353
02:28:57,760 --> 02:28:59,360
Speaker 5: Don't think that he thinks that he's going to be

3354
02:28:59,400 --> 02:29:00,000
Speaker 5: a guard.

3355
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:03,360
Speaker 4: I think I think I think if he's being honest,

3356
02:29:03,360 --> 02:29:05,440
Speaker 4: he's like he could play tackle. But I think he

3357
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:08,920
Speaker 4: wants to have a definitive take to get a reaction.

3358
02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:13,120
Speaker 4: I think it like, how can you be so definitive

3359
02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:14,040
Speaker 4: Paul about either way?

3360
02:29:14,160 --> 02:29:17,200
Speaker 5: I don't know because I'm not a football guy.

3361
02:29:17,320 --> 02:29:19,279
Speaker 4: Right he is, I know, but but.

3362
02:29:19,240 --> 02:29:22,039
Speaker 5: Like, I don't think that he would just like sacrifice

3363
02:29:22,040 --> 02:29:24,480
Speaker 5: his reputation by saying he's a guard if he doesn't

3364
02:29:24,480 --> 02:29:25,280
Speaker 5: think he's going to be a guy.

3365
02:29:25,320 --> 02:29:27,160
Speaker 8: And this was the same guy that had Drake Man

3366
02:29:27,240 --> 02:29:29,280
Speaker 8: is the sixth best quarterback in the class last year.

3367
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:31,959
Speaker 5: Anybody can be right around to sacrifice. I don't how

3368
02:29:31,959 --> 02:29:33,080
Speaker 5: do you know what he's not going to be?

3369
02:29:33,160 --> 02:29:34,560
Speaker 8: But right I know what he's talking about.

3370
02:29:34,800 --> 02:29:35,200
Speaker 4: He could be.

3371
02:29:35,840 --> 02:29:37,120
Speaker 8: How do you think he's going to be the sixth

3372
02:29:37,120 --> 02:29:38,560
Speaker 8: best quarterback in the class?

3373
02:29:39,160 --> 02:29:40,200
Speaker 4: Drake possibility?

3374
02:29:40,280 --> 02:29:41,760
Speaker 5: How do you know the possibility?

3375
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:43,160
Speaker 4: There is no But but.

3376
02:29:43,160 --> 02:29:44,880
Speaker 5: You don't think there's a chance that the other five

3377
02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:46,240
Speaker 5: guys turn out to be better than Drake?

3378
02:29:46,280 --> 02:29:51,199
Speaker 8: May hell, no, possibly the other five guys. He said

3379
02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:53,640
Speaker 8: he was six, but I think he had another guy

3380
02:29:53,640 --> 02:29:53,920
Speaker 8: in there.

3381
02:29:54,800 --> 02:29:55,840
Speaker 4: I think that's the point.

3382
02:29:56,360 --> 02:29:58,600
Speaker 5: There's a possibility there was six guys taking in the

3383
02:29:58,600 --> 02:29:59,520
Speaker 5: first round last year?

3384
02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:00,480
Speaker 1: Correct, right?

3385
02:30:00,800 --> 02:30:03,880
Speaker 5: He Chris Sims, not Paul Parola. Before this one blows

3386
02:30:03,959 --> 02:30:06,600
Speaker 5: up on me. Yea, Chris Simms thinks he's the sixth right?

3387
02:30:07,320 --> 02:30:08,240
Speaker 5: Is that impossible?

3388
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:10,879
Speaker 4: It's not impossible, but it is impossible.

3389
02:30:11,280 --> 02:30:11,960
Speaker 5: Is it unlikely?

3390
02:30:12,080 --> 02:30:12,240
Speaker 8: Yes?

3391
02:30:12,400 --> 02:30:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

3392
02:30:13,000 --> 02:30:16,280
Speaker 8: And I just can't take someone's opinion seriously that evaluated

3393
02:30:16,360 --> 02:30:18,560
Speaker 8: tape and said that that's all. And I didn't have

3394
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:20,440
Speaker 8: Drake as the best quarterback in the past. I'm not

3395
02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:20,840
Speaker 8: saying that.

3396
02:30:22,480 --> 02:30:26,000
Speaker 5: An opinion, okay, But but I can't take anybody seriously.

3397
02:30:26,040 --> 02:30:27,800
Speaker 5: I don't have to agree with him. Melt Kuiper said

3398
02:30:27,800 --> 02:30:30,199
Speaker 5: that Shauel Sanders was the best quarterback in this draft.

3399
02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:33,840
Speaker 5: I don't completely dismiss melt Kuiper because I disagree with

3400
02:30:33,879 --> 02:30:34,400
Speaker 5: his opinion.

3401
02:30:34,560 --> 02:30:36,640
Speaker 4: You don't dismiss it. But you can get mad about it.

3402
02:30:37,720 --> 02:30:39,560
Speaker 5: You could do whatever you want about it. Yeah, Like

3403
02:30:40,320 --> 02:30:41,520
Speaker 5: I'm not here to tell you how to.

3404
02:30:41,840 --> 02:30:43,360
Speaker 4: My point is that's what these guys.

3405
02:30:43,680 --> 02:30:45,840
Speaker 5: But I just don't think Chris Simms just made up

3406
02:30:46,160 --> 02:30:48,800
Speaker 5: that he thinks this guy's a guard because he wants

3407
02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:51,160
Speaker 5: to get attention. I don't think I think that he

3408
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:52,280
Speaker 5: thinks he's going to be a guard.

3409
02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:54,640
Speaker 4: But I think if he's a reasonable he could be wrong.

3410
02:30:54,720 --> 02:30:56,959
Speaker 4: But I think if he's a reasonable person, he can

3411
02:30:57,000 --> 02:30:59,320
Speaker 4: say I think he's a guard, but but it's not.

3412
02:30:59,440 --> 02:31:01,560
Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense for him to say, but

3413
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:04,360
Speaker 4: he could play tackle. You just finish it there. You

3414
02:31:04,360 --> 02:31:06,720
Speaker 4: don't leave the room for doubt. This is my opinion,

3415
02:31:06,920 --> 02:31:10,119
Speaker 4: and that's it. But I think being a reasonable person,

3416
02:31:10,600 --> 02:31:13,120
Speaker 4: he would have to admit, yeah, he could end up

3417
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:13,840
Speaker 4: playing tackle.

3418
02:31:14,040 --> 02:31:15,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just you're not supposed to say.

3419
02:31:15,320 --> 02:31:17,480
Speaker 4: It's like, I'm a reasonable person and I say, I

3420
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:20,240
Speaker 4: think he's a tackle, but I don't know for sure,

3421
02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:23,080
Speaker 4: Like maybe you know he could play guard, but I'm.

3422
02:31:23,080 --> 02:31:26,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I get that. Like i I'm like, like.

3423
02:31:26,160 --> 02:31:28,439
Speaker 4: I said, if he's wishy washy.

3424
02:31:28,440 --> 02:31:30,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just don't think that that's why they have opinions.

3425
02:31:30,879 --> 02:31:33,960
Speaker 5: I don't think that they Chris Sims's opinion is born

3426
02:31:34,040 --> 02:31:36,720
Speaker 5: on like, well, it won't really make much sense if

3427
02:31:36,760 --> 02:31:38,400
Speaker 5: I say, well, he could play tackle, but I think

3428
02:31:38,400 --> 02:31:40,320
Speaker 5: he's going to be a guard. So I'm just going

3429
02:31:40,360 --> 02:31:42,039
Speaker 5: to say he's a guard. I don't think that.

3430
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:43,440
Speaker 4: That's what they know, that's what they do.

3431
02:31:43,480 --> 02:31:46,000
Speaker 5: Maybe they do. You know more about this behind the

3432
02:31:46,040 --> 02:31:46,920
Speaker 5: scenes stuff than I do.

3433
02:31:46,959 --> 02:31:49,760
Speaker 7: It sounds like he's responding to like the dismissiveness of

3434
02:31:49,879 --> 02:31:51,280
Speaker 7: just like in fact, he's a guard.

3435
02:31:51,360 --> 02:31:54,080
Speaker 5: But let's let's call it what it is. He had

3436
02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:56,240
Speaker 5: an opinion that he didn't like, and so he just

3437
02:31:56,360 --> 02:31:57,640
Speaker 5: like dismisses it.

3438
02:31:57,959 --> 02:31:59,840
Speaker 4: We all, we all do it. Well, he hadn't dismiss it.

3439
02:32:00,120 --> 02:32:00,320
Speaker 4: Do it?

3440
02:32:00,360 --> 02:32:03,400
Speaker 5: You get mad about it? And again, I'm not here

3441
02:32:03,400 --> 02:32:05,600
Speaker 5: to tell people how to feel. It doesn't bother me.

3442
02:32:05,600 --> 02:32:08,280
Speaker 5: When someone doesn't think like me, that doesn't bother me

3443
02:32:08,320 --> 02:32:10,840
Speaker 5: in the least. You know, I am here to have

3444
02:32:10,879 --> 02:32:14,199
Speaker 5: different opinions forged. I am very comfortable in my own.

3445
02:32:14,320 --> 02:32:16,440
Speaker 5: But I think, but I don't think that Mike is wrong.

3446
02:32:16,760 --> 02:32:20,680
Speaker 4: ESPN likes it when Dave gets mad, you know, that's that's.

3447
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:23,160
Speaker 7: I mean, I just personally, I think Chris Sims has

3448
02:32:23,160 --> 02:32:25,000
Speaker 7: had a history of stupid takes, and I just I

3449
02:32:25,040 --> 02:32:27,480
Speaker 7: don't really even qualify anything he says.

3450
02:32:26,959 --> 02:32:29,240
Speaker 1: I think a guard great, Like I just some of

3451
02:32:29,240 --> 02:32:29,800
Speaker 1: the stuff in this.

3452
02:32:29,800 --> 02:32:32,800
Speaker 8: What happened to me, Like we've all been very wrong

3453
02:32:32,840 --> 02:32:35,520
Speaker 8: about the draft a million times, and Chris Sims and

3454
02:32:35,560 --> 02:32:37,240
Speaker 8: I are in the same boat on that. Like I'm

3455
02:32:37,240 --> 02:32:39,560
Speaker 8: not trying to say that that he's you know, I

3456
02:32:39,560 --> 02:32:41,879
Speaker 8: probably shouldn't have said that. I I don't take them

3457
02:32:41,879 --> 02:32:45,760
Speaker 8: seriously because I do take everybody's opinion somewhat seriously that

3458
02:32:45,879 --> 02:32:48,480
Speaker 8: I feel like has some credibility. But my my only

3459
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:51,280
Speaker 8: point with with all of this is is that it's

3460
02:32:51,280 --> 02:32:53,160
Speaker 8: just one man's opinion. Okay, that.

3461
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:57,959
Speaker 5: That line of work that I don't really take overly seriously.

3462
02:32:58,080 --> 02:33:01,759
Speaker 5: And he hasn't been around much lately, but Merril Hodge, Yeah,

3463
02:33:01,840 --> 02:33:04,280
Speaker 5: I used to like because I just was like, this

3464
02:33:04,360 --> 02:33:06,640
Speaker 5: is a guy that I was consistently seeming like. I

3465
02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:09,360
Speaker 5: was like, I don't look at anything his way, and

3466
02:33:09,400 --> 02:33:11,080
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, you know what, I might I

3467
02:33:11,160 --> 02:33:13,640
Speaker 5: might feel better about it if I feel opposite him,

3468
02:33:13,879 --> 02:33:16,520
Speaker 5: because maybe he just looks at football in a different way. Now,

3469
02:33:16,760 --> 02:33:18,680
Speaker 5: do I know as much about football as Merril Hodge?

3470
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:19,920
Speaker 5: Of course, not the guy played.

3471
02:33:20,120 --> 02:33:23,720
Speaker 4: But these guys are they're paid to have opinions. No

3472
02:33:23,760 --> 02:33:26,160
Speaker 4: one wants to hear them, you know, through their top

3473
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:30,320
Speaker 4: five with seven guys, you know like some like, some

3474
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:30,840
Speaker 4: of them.

3475
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:33,240
Speaker 5: Do right, But they're paid to have opinions. And he

3476
02:33:33,280 --> 02:33:35,640
Speaker 5: would be paid just as much as if his opinion

3477
02:33:35,840 --> 02:33:37,520
Speaker 5: was will Campbell will be a tackle?

3478
02:33:38,200 --> 02:33:38,360
Speaker 4: Oh?

3479
02:33:38,440 --> 02:33:41,840
Speaker 5: Yes, he wouldn't make any less or more if there's

3480
02:33:41,959 --> 02:33:44,680
Speaker 5: very thin he thinks that he's going to be a guy.

3481
02:33:44,760 --> 02:33:46,880
Speaker 4: I think that. I think he believes the chances are

3482
02:33:46,920 --> 02:33:48,039
Speaker 4: he's going to be I do believe that.

3483
02:33:48,120 --> 02:33:50,120
Speaker 5: I don't think that the money for him is like

3484
02:33:50,400 --> 02:33:52,160
Speaker 5: I can make more, I can get more attention. If

3485
02:33:52,160 --> 02:33:53,520
Speaker 5: I say he's going to be a point.

3486
02:33:53,400 --> 02:33:55,520
Speaker 4: Is Dave wouldn't have been as mad as if he said,

3487
02:33:55,560 --> 02:33:56,640
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be a guard.

3488
02:33:59,120 --> 02:34:01,039
Speaker 5: We're coming up here too, we should get we should

3489
02:34:01,040 --> 02:34:01,680
Speaker 5: get ready.

3490
02:34:01,640 --> 02:34:04,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know you have to be definitive on

3491
02:34:04,520 --> 02:34:06,880
Speaker 4: these shows. You can't be wishy washy.

3492
02:34:07,040 --> 02:34:10,280
Speaker 7: Well, I mean it's also too sorry, but how many

3493
02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:14,600
Speaker 7: NFL executives that are making picks today are making horrible

3494
02:34:14,640 --> 02:34:16,760
Speaker 7: mistakes that we won't know about for the next year

3495
02:34:16,840 --> 02:34:19,400
Speaker 7: or two. But it's just how it works. Like, yeah,

3496
02:34:19,680 --> 02:34:22,640
Speaker 7: that's the NFL, even the teams that study this stuff.

3497
02:34:22,680 --> 02:34:24,280
Speaker 7: Like I just to joke around, like we kind of

3498
02:34:24,280 --> 02:34:26,680
Speaker 7: costplay it like we do our own little research. Ultimately

3499
02:34:26,720 --> 02:34:29,280
Speaker 7: we're not picking any players. But these people whose jobs

3500
02:34:29,320 --> 02:34:30,240
Speaker 7: depend on it, they.

3501
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:32,760
Speaker 1: Screw it up too. It's it's so far from it.

3502
02:34:33,040 --> 02:34:37,440
Speaker 5: That's when I get mad, is like it, you know,

3503
02:34:37,720 --> 02:34:40,440
Speaker 5: but these guys they don't even know what they're doing. Like,

3504
02:34:41,040 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 5: of course not. It's just like the teams like they're

3505
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:46,520
Speaker 5: I mean, they obviously come from it with far more

3506
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:51,240
Speaker 5: information and far more, far more experience, and there's all

3507
02:34:51,320 --> 02:34:53,800
Speaker 5: kinds of missteps all the time because it's a hard

3508
02:34:53,879 --> 02:34:56,320
Speaker 5: thing to do. So like I don't know if that's why,

3509
02:34:56,480 --> 02:34:58,880
Speaker 5: Like I love to tease myself about the Vernon Golstons

3510
02:34:58,879 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 5: of the world so that I completely we missed the

3511
02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:05,519
Speaker 5: boat on. But like I'm not seriously mad about it.

3512
02:35:05,640 --> 02:35:10,040
Speaker 7: I mean, how you million this job and talk about

3513
02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:12,120
Speaker 7: it for X amounts a week and write all these

3514
02:35:12,160 --> 02:35:15,199
Speaker 7: different big boys and not have some dumb wrong things.

3515
02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:18,400
Speaker 5: Because let's hope that Chris Simms. This is one of

3516
02:35:18,440 --> 02:35:20,120
Speaker 5: the silly things that we can make fun of him

3517
02:35:20,120 --> 02:35:22,480
Speaker 5: about in two years, Like this guy didn't even think

3518
02:35:22,480 --> 02:35:24,720
Speaker 5: he could even play tackle and now he's a Pro

3519
02:35:24,800 --> 02:35:26,840
Speaker 5: Bowl attacker. That's what you gotta hope.

3520
02:35:26,920 --> 02:35:31,000
Speaker 8: I'll give him credits. He definitely goes against con consensus

3521
02:35:31,000 --> 02:35:33,120
Speaker 8: with a lot of his rankings, Like he's not afraid

3522
02:35:33,200 --> 02:35:36,600
Speaker 8: to buck trends and like have Drake may as the

3523
02:35:36,640 --> 02:35:39,200
Speaker 8: sixth best quarterback in the class last year when everybody

3524
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:40,039
Speaker 8: thought he was the third.

3525
02:35:40,720 --> 02:35:43,600
Speaker 5: And he really liked Mac Jones coming out, didn't he

3526
02:35:43,240 --> 02:35:44,440
Speaker 5: He tended that one.

3527
02:35:44,440 --> 02:35:46,600
Speaker 8: And I'm not saying this is as a knock on him.

3528
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:47,960
Speaker 5: But he we all loved Chris Sims.

3529
02:35:48,040 --> 02:35:51,520
Speaker 8: Then he tends to gravitate towards more of the pro

3530
02:35:51,640 --> 02:35:53,879
Speaker 8: ready guys, right, Like he was really high on Bo

3531
02:35:54,040 --> 02:35:56,920
Speaker 8: Nicks because he just thought that Bo Nicks was ready

3532
02:35:56,959 --> 02:36:00,960
Speaker 8: for the league from a quarterback technical standpoint. That that

3533
02:36:00,959 --> 02:36:03,600
Speaker 8: that tends to be his m O with quarterbacks, his

3534
02:36:04,000 --> 02:36:07,119
Speaker 8: you know Nicks, that makes sense, Nix like those types

3535
02:36:07,160 --> 02:36:08,280
Speaker 8: of Matt Jones was.

3536
02:36:08,200 --> 02:36:09,920
Speaker 5: More NFL ready when he came out.

3537
02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,080
Speaker 4: He was. That's what his that was. That was the

3538
02:36:13,160 --> 02:36:17,560
Speaker 4: highest floor of the quarterbacks, but maybe the lowest ceiling

3539
02:36:18,879 --> 02:36:19,360
Speaker 4: at the time.

3540
02:36:19,440 --> 02:36:28,640
Speaker 5: Turns out both right, So Wilson he is better than Zachs.

3541
02:36:29,080 --> 02:36:32,200
Speaker 4: The Browns pick is in. That means the Raiders are

3542
02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:35,840
Speaker 4: up next, followed by your New England Patriots in England.

3543
02:36:36,440 --> 02:36:38,880
Speaker 4: So that's coming up quick. So we'll go to a

3544
02:36:39,240 --> 02:36:42,160
Speaker 4: phone call or two before we get there. Colleen's in Houston.

3545
02:36:42,360 --> 02:36:43,280
Speaker 4: What's up Colleen?

3546
02:36:45,520 --> 02:36:52,039
Speaker 18: Hey guys? So, uh, my question is are very good

3547
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:59,200
Speaker 18: tackles in college boys to be right tackles? Because it

3548
02:36:59,360 --> 02:37:03,640
Speaker 18: feels like any good tackle is the right tackle except

3549
02:37:03,680 --> 02:37:08,760
Speaker 18: for Will Campbell, who then there's a problem with him

3550
02:37:08,800 --> 02:37:12,400
Speaker 18: because of his online and I just I want to

3551
02:37:12,400 --> 02:37:14,960
Speaker 18: know what you guys think about that.

3552
02:37:15,320 --> 02:37:15,680
Speaker 14: Thank you.

3553
02:37:16,280 --> 02:37:19,160
Speaker 8: Okay, there were some there were some, you know, left

3554
02:37:19,160 --> 02:37:21,320
Speaker 8: tackles in the top of this draft that all went

3555
02:37:21,400 --> 02:37:25,879
Speaker 8: in the top in the top ten, Kelvin Banks, Josh

3556
02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:27,760
Speaker 8: Simmons at the end, and Connery at the end, and

3557
02:37:27,800 --> 02:37:29,959
Speaker 8: the nursery went today, you know those That was the

3558
02:37:29,959 --> 02:37:33,280
Speaker 8: group we talked about. That group A Ton Membo is

3559
02:37:33,320 --> 02:37:34,200
Speaker 8: the right tackle, you know?

3560
02:37:34,240 --> 02:37:37,640
Speaker 5: That was the only highly right am I missing one?

3561
02:37:37,800 --> 02:37:39,560
Speaker 5: He was the high the only high lead.

3562
02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:43,200
Speaker 8: Radio I mean, big Oz was wash the.

3563
02:37:43,240 --> 02:37:46,279
Speaker 4: Back of the envelope. Guys just went Harold Fann and Jr.

3564
02:37:47,400 --> 02:37:49,119
Speaker 4: Went to the Browns.

3565
02:37:49,240 --> 02:37:52,280
Speaker 8: So, I uh, the Patriots are on the clock, and

3566
02:37:53,040 --> 02:37:55,199
Speaker 8: I just got to say, I think we're gonna love

3567
02:37:55,240 --> 02:37:55,760
Speaker 8: this one.

3568
02:37:55,879 --> 02:37:59,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say it's Jalen Nole based on L like

3569
02:37:59,640 --> 02:38:00,360
Speaker 5: this close.

3570
02:38:00,840 --> 02:38:01,440
Speaker 1: You're close.

3571
02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:04,840
Speaker 8: Oh yes, they're kind of cooking.

3572
02:38:05,080 --> 02:38:08,720
Speaker 7: I mean yeah, I just I'm gonna go back to

3573
02:38:08,760 --> 02:38:11,680
Speaker 7: what I I mean. I just think we've done a

3574
02:38:11,680 --> 02:38:14,600
Speaker 7: good job of prepping the fans and our viewers for

3575
02:38:15,640 --> 02:38:17,840
Speaker 7: what's happening here in this draft tonight, and I like

3576
02:38:17,879 --> 02:38:19,279
Speaker 7: that it's probably about.

3577
02:38:20,440 --> 02:38:21,480
Speaker 4: No, let's wait a little bit.

3578
02:38:21,560 --> 02:38:23,600
Speaker 8: Okay, we'll wait a little bit on this one.

3579
02:38:23,840 --> 02:38:25,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm excited though.

3580
02:38:25,879 --> 02:38:28,720
Speaker 8: This is Paul did like the lap around yet last

3581
02:38:28,800 --> 02:38:31,280
Speaker 8: night with Will Campbell. This is a lap around type

3582
02:38:31,320 --> 02:38:36,440
Speaker 8: of guy for me personally, I'm I mean, I'm pretty

3583
02:38:36,520 --> 02:38:38,880
Speaker 8: jacked up about this one. Dude. I'm not gonna lie.

3584
02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:41,600
Speaker 4: Robin san Diego. Deuce is quickly becoming one of my

3585
02:38:41,680 --> 02:38:44,440
Speaker 4: favorite Peu personalities. I'll be honest. At first, I wasn't

3586
02:38:44,440 --> 02:38:46,920
Speaker 4: a fan. I usually perform when Fred and Paul swaps

3587
02:38:46,920 --> 02:38:49,760
Speaker 4: stories about parking lot arguments in middle school fights from

3588
02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:52,400
Speaker 4: decades ago, rather than diving into the data. But with

3589
02:38:52,560 --> 02:38:55,199
Speaker 4: Do stepping up and sharing more from his father's athletic

3590
02:38:55,280 --> 02:38:58,920
Speaker 4: history to possible family ties to Canada, his new appreciation

3591
02:38:59,040 --> 02:39:02,400
Speaker 4: for historical rhann actors, and especially the wide range of

3592
02:39:02,440 --> 02:39:06,320
Speaker 4: careers pursued by his cousin, He's really started to come

3593
02:39:06,320 --> 02:39:08,320
Speaker 4: into his own rate drafts. So far, I can't wait

3594
02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:10,520
Speaker 4: to see what they do next. What we're about to

3595
02:39:10,560 --> 02:39:15,080
Speaker 4: see pretty quickly here the Raiders selection is in. Who

3596
02:39:15,200 --> 02:39:23,840
Speaker 4: the Raiders take the Raiders hasn't been listed yet. Who

3597
02:39:23,840 --> 02:39:24,840
Speaker 4: did the Raiders take.

3598
02:39:25,879 --> 02:39:28,560
Speaker 8: The Raiders have? Yeah, we don't know yet. Oh really,

3599
02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:30,560
Speaker 8: we do not know yet. The tipping has been a

3600
02:39:30,600 --> 02:39:33,760
Speaker 8: little bit. People kind kind of gave up a little bit.

3601
02:39:33,800 --> 02:39:36,320
Speaker 8: I think tip they took Darien Porter.

3602
02:39:36,640 --> 02:39:40,480
Speaker 4: Okay, the cornerback out of Ioasa State and New England

3603
02:39:40,680 --> 02:39:43,360
Speaker 4: is on the clock. Might not be on my list

3604
02:39:43,720 --> 02:39:44,720
Speaker 4: Darien Porter.

3605
02:39:44,680 --> 02:39:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think so.

3606
02:39:46,320 --> 02:39:50,119
Speaker 4: I think he's outside of the Beast one hundred.

3607
02:39:51,200 --> 02:39:53,240
Speaker 8: He was right on the fringe of my top one hundred.

3608
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:57,360
Speaker 8: Really good combine tester, high weight, speed, exact exactly what

3609
02:39:57,440 --> 02:39:59,640
Speaker 8: I was about to just say that that's what he is.

3610
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:01,600
Speaker 8: He's a little bit of an older prospect though, and

3611
02:40:01,640 --> 02:40:03,360
Speaker 8: I think that that, you know, hurt him in a

3612
02:40:03,400 --> 02:40:05,960
Speaker 8: lot of people's eyes. He's like twenty four, but he's

3613
02:40:06,320 --> 02:40:10,800
Speaker 8: he's a good zone corner, good athlete. Tested. Well, there's

3614
02:40:10,840 --> 02:40:14,760
Speaker 8: like some like Tyreek Woolland type vibes with him. That's

3615
02:40:14,760 --> 02:40:15,160
Speaker 8: all I got.

3616
02:40:15,280 --> 02:40:19,240
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, let's go to Aaron in Utah. What's up Aaron?

3617
02:40:21,240 --> 02:40:24,560
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, just real quick, Keith Tippet picks.

3618
02:40:25,120 --> 02:40:25,720
Speaker 10: We love it.

3619
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:27,840
Speaker 13: All the haters hate it, but whatever.

3620
02:40:29,240 --> 02:40:32,039
Speaker 12: Really, it's only thirty seconds a minute difference.

3621
02:40:32,680 --> 02:40:34,199
Speaker 13: Tops you know, it's not a big deal.

3622
02:40:34,680 --> 02:40:38,920
Speaker 5: Evan, You're only getting hate just because you're knowledgeable and you're.

3623
02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:41,120
Speaker 29: Bold and you know what you're saying, and you're not

3624
02:40:41,280 --> 02:40:44,240
Speaker 29: couching it, right, So you're not saying I think this.

3625
02:40:44,520 --> 02:40:48,560
Speaker 5: I think that he's obviously he's also hateable it more.

3626
02:40:48,720 --> 02:40:51,920
Speaker 13: It's only one opinion, so okay.

3627
02:40:52,720 --> 02:40:55,760
Speaker 9: And then last thing, if you guys could come away

3628
02:40:55,800 --> 02:40:58,760
Speaker 9: with one guy or one position out of the next

3629
02:40:58,760 --> 02:40:59,879
Speaker 9: two picks, what would it be?

3630
02:41:00,120 --> 02:41:00,560
Speaker 10: Thank you.

3631
02:41:03,640 --> 02:41:06,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to sound like a fraud, but wide receiver.

3632
02:41:06,840 --> 02:41:08,840
Speaker 4: All right, so let's let's uh, they.

3633
02:41:08,680 --> 02:41:12,000
Speaker 5: Took a wide receiver and all this is the I

3634
02:41:12,240 --> 02:41:14,320
Speaker 5: to answer that question, that's the position I would have.

3635
02:41:14,320 --> 02:41:16,040
Speaker 4: Said, one wide receiver would they pick?

3636
02:41:17,320 --> 02:41:21,279
Speaker 8: The Patriots have picked Washington State wide receiver Kyle Williams.

3637
02:41:21,800 --> 02:41:22,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

3638
02:41:22,280 --> 02:41:26,760
Speaker 8: Fantastic pick again by the Patriots, who I think. Now

3639
02:41:27,200 --> 02:41:30,400
Speaker 8: I can safely say I'm really loving the draft honestly,

3640
02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:33,120
Speaker 8: like this is not it's been. I really like what

3641
02:41:33,160 --> 02:41:36,720
Speaker 8: they've done so far. Everybody has been clamoring for speed

3642
02:41:36,760 --> 02:41:40,000
Speaker 8: and explosiveness at the wide receiver position, and they got

3643
02:41:40,120 --> 02:41:42,360
Speaker 8: a guy and Kyle Williams who ran a four to

3644
02:41:42,400 --> 02:41:44,920
Speaker 8: four forty yard dash and can absolutely fly with the

3645
02:41:44,920 --> 02:41:48,720
Speaker 8: ball in his hands as well, big playmaker, great separator,

3646
02:41:48,760 --> 02:41:51,760
Speaker 8: one of the best pure separators in the entire draft.

3647
02:41:51,800 --> 02:41:55,240
Speaker 8: So this is a really exciting pick to me, another

3648
02:41:55,280 --> 02:41:57,160
Speaker 8: big board guy. So that's three for three.

3649
02:41:57,720 --> 02:41:58,320
Speaker 1: You're one up on me.

3650
02:41:58,440 --> 02:41:59,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we're doing well.

3651
02:42:00,720 --> 02:42:02,920
Speaker 4: They were going to go offense big yeah so far,

3652
02:42:03,000 --> 02:42:03,520
Speaker 4: and they have.

3653
02:42:04,520 --> 02:42:06,280
Speaker 5: I like the pick of Kyle Wins too. I just

3654
02:42:06,320 --> 02:42:08,480
Speaker 5: said I needed a fast duty to make plays. This

3655
02:42:08,600 --> 02:42:10,600
Speaker 5: is two in a row, two playmakers.

3656
02:42:11,200 --> 02:42:14,320
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay, yes, So give me some stats.

3657
02:42:14,400 --> 02:42:16,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, so he can play on the outside and and

3658
02:42:16,720 --> 02:42:18,560
Speaker 8: on the inside. I think that was what I like

3659
02:42:18,600 --> 02:42:21,080
Speaker 8: the most about him. That maybe tip the scales for

3660
02:42:21,120 --> 02:42:23,640
Speaker 8: the Patriots a little bit over Jalen Knowle, who was

3661
02:42:23,680 --> 02:42:26,039
Speaker 8: really a slot only type of player. This is a

3662
02:42:26,040 --> 02:42:28,960
Speaker 8: guy that can play on the outside and actually want

3663
02:42:28,959 --> 02:42:32,320
Speaker 8: to go round against Travis Hunter at Washington State, let's

3664
02:42:32,360 --> 02:42:33,119
Speaker 8: go to the podium.

3665
02:42:33,280 --> 02:42:37,720
Speaker 30: In the twenty five NFL Draft, the New England Patriots

3666
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Speaker 30: select Kyle Williams, wide receiver, Washington States.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you see, I mean, you know, five ten and

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Speaker 7: change a little under five to eleven one ninety's that's

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Speaker 7: the thing with him. But you know, even just pulling

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Speaker 7: his best stuff up here, and then the thing is

3671
02:42:55,920 --> 02:42:59,400
Speaker 7: sticks out his quick uncover, guy who gets open, guy

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Speaker 7: who can get off the Travis Hunter by that talking about.

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Speaker 8: Him, And he can also you know, catch and run

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02:43:07,520 --> 02:43:09,360
Speaker 8: with the football very well too. This is a guy

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Speaker 8: that can create plays with the football in his hands

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Speaker 8: as well.

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Speaker 5: And Wood throwing him the ball to that that I

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Speaker 5: think was from.

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Speaker 8: N He can take short passes and he can turn

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Speaker 8: him into longer gains. But I think what the thing

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Speaker 8: that really stands out above the rest with Kyle Williams

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Speaker 8: is his ability to separate. This guy is a true separator.

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02:43:26,320 --> 02:43:29,080
Speaker 8: We're not talking about somebody. We have a speed in

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02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:30,080
Speaker 8: size concerns.

3685
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Speaker 5: We have a slate.

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Speaker 1: Henderson Digs Williams.

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Speaker 8: You have two guys here and Traveon Henderson and Kyle

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02:43:38,040 --> 02:43:41,360
Speaker 8: Williams that can eat up grass man Like. These guys

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02:43:41,400 --> 02:43:44,240
Speaker 8: can fly, they can make big plays. They are explosive

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02:43:44,480 --> 02:43:47,720
Speaker 8: chunk play artists. So if you wanted speed, you wanted

3691
02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:51,840
Speaker 8: big playability, you wanted separation on the outside at wide receiver,

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Speaker 8: you got it. You got it with both these picks.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited.

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02:43:55,800 --> 02:43:57,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I just you know, I'm just I guess

3695
02:43:57,680 --> 02:43:59,800
Speaker 7: I'm proud that we've been talking about this guy all night.

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02:43:59,840 --> 02:44:01,720
Speaker 7: We've talking about what we want. I mean, been saying

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02:44:01,720 --> 02:44:04,199
Speaker 7: we want speed the whole time. Like you said, Evan,

3698
02:44:04,240 --> 02:44:05,760
Speaker 7: like I don't want to you know, you feel like

3699
02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:07,400
Speaker 7: you need to say, I'm not I'm not lying. I

3700
02:44:07,400 --> 02:44:09,640
Speaker 7: got really am excited, like I've been saying for months now,

3701
02:44:09,680 --> 02:44:12,119
Speaker 7: like this is what I wanted them to add speed

3702
02:44:12,600 --> 02:44:16,120
Speaker 7: at this wide receiver position. Kyle Williams brings what this

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02:44:16,240 --> 02:44:18,280
Speaker 7: wide receiver room doesn't have right now, which is that

3704
02:44:18,400 --> 02:44:22,520
Speaker 7: quick uncoverability, the ability to get downfield. It's a huge

3705
02:44:22,520 --> 02:44:24,200
Speaker 7: thing with Drake may. We saw how many goal balls

3706
02:44:24,240 --> 02:44:26,320
Speaker 7: did he throw last year in practice? Few in the

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02:44:26,360 --> 02:44:29,240
Speaker 7: game too, uh, mostly to Kaysehan Boody. But he has

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02:44:29,240 --> 02:44:31,879
Speaker 7: that ability to hit downfield. It's an element that their

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02:44:31,920 --> 02:44:35,039
Speaker 7: offenses lacked. And I think, you know, the excitement's really

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02:44:35,440 --> 02:44:37,600
Speaker 7: building for me too. And now you have one more

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02:44:37,640 --> 02:44:39,840
Speaker 7: pick coming up, chance to really you know, put an

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02:44:39,840 --> 02:44:42,440
Speaker 7: exclamation on these first two rounds. And like I said

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Speaker 7: at the top, you know, I feel like these are

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Speaker 7: the days you really need to move the needle, and

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Speaker 7: I think.

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Speaker 1: They've done that with these first two picks here on

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Speaker 1: day two.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, dude, skeed some of your edge guys here.

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Speaker 8: Maybe at seventy seven.

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Speaker 4: Throw me a bone, Notott, I know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, I got what I needed, all right.

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Speaker 8: Like if you're Josh McDaniels right now, you're sitting back

3723
02:44:58,920 --> 02:45:00,680
Speaker 8: there and you said you got me a I've tackled

3724
02:45:00,680 --> 02:45:04,039
Speaker 8: and two big play skill players, Like I'm good, Like,

3725
02:45:04,160 --> 02:45:07,360
Speaker 8: go get yourself some pass rush because I'm all set

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Speaker 8: over here.

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Speaker 7: You know, can our friend in La I wonder can

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02:45:10,120 --> 02:45:11,360
Speaker 7: he call back in does he want to tell us

3729
02:45:11,360 --> 02:45:13,280
Speaker 7: how he's feeling now about you know, I mean the

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Speaker 7: little bit when you really sit back and evaluate the

3731
02:45:15,640 --> 02:45:19,440
Speaker 7: Henderson pick, you know, instead of just looking at it

3732
02:45:19,440 --> 02:45:21,120
Speaker 7: as a running back, looking as you guys said, what

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02:45:21,160 --> 02:45:22,600
Speaker 7: it is a three down guy, a guy who can

3734
02:45:22,680 --> 02:45:24,000
Speaker 7: catch the ball, a guy who can.

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Speaker 1: Make big plays consistently.

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Speaker 5: And now another rest And I look at the collectives

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02:45:28,480 --> 02:45:32,640
Speaker 5: like they needed playmakers. These are playmakers. Yeah, that's how

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02:45:32,879 --> 02:45:34,560
Speaker 5: you know. Like you can sit there and say they're

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02:45:34,560 --> 02:45:37,800
Speaker 5: trying to win game seventeen thirteen, but their acts belide

3740
02:45:37,800 --> 02:45:40,720
Speaker 5: that line of thought. They're trying to playmake.

3741
02:45:40,800 --> 02:45:42,360
Speaker 4: If you want to make more plays, you.

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02:45:42,400 --> 02:45:43,680
Speaker 5: Got to get playmakers, right.

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Speaker 8: I think. You know what I also just really love

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02:45:47,040 --> 02:45:49,480
Speaker 8: about this pick here for the Patriots is you know,

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02:45:49,640 --> 02:45:51,800
Speaker 8: they didn't reach on him like they will let him fall.

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02:45:51,920 --> 02:45:53,840
Speaker 8: They let him wait. They waited for the right area

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02:45:53,920 --> 02:45:55,959
Speaker 8: to pick him at sixty nine. I had him in

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Speaker 8: my last last mock draft to the Patriots at thirty

3749
02:45:58,480 --> 02:46:00,400
Speaker 8: eight because I felt like they were going to like

3750
02:46:00,440 --> 02:46:02,080
Speaker 8: the player, but I thought that they would take him

3751
02:46:02,120 --> 02:46:05,200
Speaker 8: around earlier than this. They waited for him. They got

3752
02:46:05,280 --> 02:46:08,560
Speaker 8: him where he probably should have gone. But Fred, you

3753
02:46:08,560 --> 02:46:10,840
Speaker 8: asked for some stats. He had twelve hundred yards and

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02:46:10,879 --> 02:46:14,720
Speaker 8: fourteen touchdowns last year at Washington State on seventy catches.

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Speaker 8: So that's seventeen yards per catch that he averaged last

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Speaker 8: year at Washington State. So I again, what I really

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02:46:22,160 --> 02:46:25,000
Speaker 8: thought separated him from some of this group. You know,

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02:46:25,040 --> 02:46:26,800
Speaker 8: we talked a little bit about Royals, We talked a

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02:46:26,800 --> 02:46:29,560
Speaker 8: little bit about nol his ability to play on the

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02:46:29,600 --> 02:46:31,959
Speaker 8: inside and the outside. This is a guy that can

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Speaker 8: line up on the outside and win on routes and

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Speaker 8: win on vertical routes and stretch the field a little bit.

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Speaker 8: So I think that probably separated him from that group.

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Speaker 8: Among that group, really good release package, really good ability

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Speaker 8: to stack corners on the outside. Fun player, like fun

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Speaker 8: fund tape, fun player.

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Speaker 1: This was the gronk pick who wasn't This was at

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Speaker 1: least got a little gronkn.

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Speaker 4: So are you in touch with Barth? What's he saying?

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Speaker 8: Well, bar I gotta tell you to give him his props.

3771
02:47:01,720 --> 02:47:04,800
Speaker 8: This was Barr's guy. Bart told me about Kyle Williams

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Speaker 8: when I went down to Mobile for the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 8: back in January, and he said, do me a favor

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Speaker 8: you know, watch the Washington state wide receiver and let

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Speaker 8: me know what you think. I think that's going to

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Speaker 8: be like my my mid round, you know, sleeper type

3777
02:47:17,720 --> 02:47:20,560
Speaker 8: of guy. He was all over it with Kyle Williams

3778
02:47:20,680 --> 02:47:22,879
Speaker 8: and I was late to the party compared to him,

3779
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Speaker 8: and he he put me on him, so I'm the game.

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Speaker 5: Oh sorry.

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Speaker 8: He absolutely is married to the game.

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Speaker 5: And I did hear him on one of my shows

3783
02:47:34,400 --> 02:47:36,440
Speaker 5: talking about that. He's like he came back from the seaboy.

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02:47:36,480 --> 02:47:38,959
Speaker 5: He's like he couldn't understand why more people weren't talking

3785
02:47:38,959 --> 02:47:41,480
Speaker 5: about him. So he was someone that really stood out

3786
02:47:41,520 --> 02:47:44,440
Speaker 5: to him in those practices. And then all of a sudden,

3787
02:47:44,520 --> 02:47:46,920
Speaker 5: as the process continued, he started to rise and he

3788
02:47:47,000 --> 02:47:50,120
Speaker 5: was like, Oh, I'm glad that I'm not crazy with

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Speaker 5: this guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to give anything.

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Speaker 5: We have him.

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Speaker 1: But weren't you talking to people who told you that

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02:47:55,080 --> 02:47:55,760
Speaker 1: Kyle Wims was.

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Speaker 5: Going to go a lot higher than people were Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Expect Yeah, I mean he started the process of three

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02:48:00,400 --> 02:48:03,560
Speaker 8: pick and then he just quickly rows up the board.

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Speaker 8: Great week down in Mobile, he puts down a four

3798
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Speaker 8: to four in the forty yard dash at the combine,

3799
02:48:08,840 --> 02:48:11,720
Speaker 8: so he checks off the speed box, and like I

3800
02:48:11,800 --> 02:48:14,400
Speaker 8: keep saying, I think the thing that's so exciting about

3801
02:48:14,440 --> 02:48:16,520
Speaker 8: the pick is that this is a guy that can

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02:48:16,560 --> 02:48:19,320
Speaker 8: really get open, Like he can really separate, and he

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02:48:19,360 --> 02:48:23,320
Speaker 8: can really run routes and create separation, which frankly, some

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02:48:23,360 --> 02:48:25,720
Speaker 8: of the picks they've made at wide receiver lately, we've

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02:48:25,760 --> 02:48:27,840
Speaker 8: had that concern. You know, we had that concern last

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02:48:27,920 --> 02:48:30,800
Speaker 8: year with Jalen Polk, like that, this is not Jalen Polk.

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02:48:30,840 --> 02:48:33,680
Speaker 8: This is a different type of receiver than Jalen Polk

3808
02:48:33,680 --> 02:48:36,879
Speaker 8: and more complete receiver than like a Taekwon Thorton, you know,

3809
02:48:36,920 --> 02:48:40,360
Speaker 8: not just a one trick pony. So it's an exciting pick.

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02:48:40,720 --> 02:48:42,959
Speaker 5: He's almost five eleven, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Five ten and a half, one ninety. You know we're

3812
02:48:45,920 --> 02:48:49,080
Speaker 1: in a four to four. Uh you want his wingspan

3813
02:48:49,400 --> 02:48:50,359
Speaker 1: speed slot.

3814
02:48:51,080 --> 02:48:53,520
Speaker 5: I love Evans terminology that I'm going to go with

3815
02:48:54,360 --> 02:48:55,039
Speaker 5: speed slot.

3816
02:48:55,040 --> 02:48:57,040
Speaker 1: Speeds got good speed.

3817
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Speaker 8: Like I said, I think he can play some on

3818
02:48:59,520 --> 02:49:02,160
Speaker 8: the outside, Like I don't think that's his best usage

3819
02:49:02,240 --> 02:49:04,480
Speaker 8: is probably to move him around and let him hunt

3820
02:49:04,560 --> 02:49:07,400
Speaker 8: matchups and hunt space and let him get open off

3821
02:49:07,440 --> 02:49:09,800
Speaker 8: the line of scrimmage. But I love to fit for

3822
02:49:09,879 --> 02:49:13,080
Speaker 8: Josh McDaniels. McDaniels is gonna move this guy all around

3823
02:49:13,120 --> 02:49:15,280
Speaker 8: the formation. He'll get him off the line. He'll use

3824
02:49:15,280 --> 02:49:18,119
Speaker 8: stacks and bunches and pick plays and things like that

3825
02:49:18,200 --> 02:49:21,439
Speaker 8: to get him free. You get him catch and run opportunities.

3826
02:49:21,879 --> 02:49:26,720
Speaker 8: He's really a burner, a really explosive player. And I

3827
02:49:27,040 --> 02:49:29,680
Speaker 8: just both guys that they picked today, Trayvon Henderson and

3828
02:49:29,800 --> 02:49:31,400
Speaker 8: Kyle Williams, are gonna make big plays.

3829
02:49:32,280 --> 02:49:35,119
Speaker 4: No Jeremiah wants to know if Noel's there at seventy seven,

3830
02:49:35,160 --> 02:49:38,680
Speaker 4: do you double dip Personally, I would strongly capital letters

3831
02:49:38,720 --> 02:49:39,280
Speaker 4: consider it.

3832
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Speaker 5: I don't know. Now you're in ten. That's a little

3833
02:49:43,840 --> 02:49:48,279
Speaker 5: replication to me. Yeah, they're similar players, and yeah, they've

3834
02:49:48,320 --> 02:49:51,200
Speaker 5: deemed that Kyle Williams is a better player. Yeah, I

3835
02:49:51,240 --> 02:49:52,720
Speaker 5: think you have other needs. Yeah.

3836
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:55,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like I said, I think Kyle Williams is the

3837
02:49:55,160 --> 02:49:58,400
Speaker 8: more complete receiver in the ability to play on the outside.

3838
02:49:58,480 --> 02:50:00,480
Speaker 8: I think that's what changes it a little bit. I

3839
02:50:00,520 --> 02:50:04,520
Speaker 8: think Nole's probably a little bit more highly touted coming

3840
02:50:04,520 --> 02:50:07,320
Speaker 8: out as a slot receiver. But if you wanted a

3841
02:50:07,360 --> 02:50:10,320
Speaker 8: guy that could play some reps on the outside and

3842
02:50:10,320 --> 02:50:12,840
Speaker 8: be maybe more of like a fifty to fifty split

3843
02:50:12,959 --> 02:50:16,280
Speaker 8: inside outside. Then this is a player that can do that.

3844
02:50:16,520 --> 02:50:20,680
Speaker 8: So I just look at all the things that they

3845
02:50:20,800 --> 02:50:23,240
Speaker 8: missed on on wide receivers in the past, and I

3846
02:50:23,240 --> 02:50:25,320
Speaker 8: think that this is this shows me that it's a

3847
02:50:25,360 --> 02:50:27,080
Speaker 8: little bit of a different scout, is a little bit

3848
02:50:27,080 --> 02:50:27,680
Speaker 8: different player.

3849
02:50:27,920 --> 02:50:31,240
Speaker 4: Dana Virginia, Michigan says, Patriots pick a fast wide receiver.

3850
02:50:31,400 --> 02:50:33,280
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to be someone driving in front of

3851
02:50:33,280 --> 02:50:40,800
Speaker 4: Eldrid's truck right now. Yeah, yeah, Eldred you listening. What

3852
02:50:40,840 --> 02:50:41,680
Speaker 4: do you think.

3853
02:50:45,760 --> 02:50:47,240
Speaker 1: It always works so flawlessly?

3854
02:50:48,280 --> 02:50:51,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I say Josh mctanna is probably probably Owes, Ryan

3855
02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:53,960
Speaker 7: Couten and Mike Frabile, Elliot Wolf maybe at dinner tonight,

3856
02:50:53,959 --> 02:50:56,840
Speaker 7: because I mean, just what fun I've been a lot

3857
02:50:57,040 --> 02:50:59,280
Speaker 7: thinking about that. It's just where Josh is at, how

3858
02:50:59,280 --> 02:51:02,760
Speaker 7: he's going to Taylor of the offense, to Drake May

3859
02:51:02,800 --> 02:51:05,119
Speaker 7: and there's just some fun stuff to play with now,

3860
02:51:05,160 --> 02:51:08,680
Speaker 7: I mean across the board from Stefan Diggs to you know,

3861
02:51:08,760 --> 02:51:10,440
Speaker 7: I just I'll throw the rookie, you know, the rookies

3862
02:51:10,440 --> 02:51:12,680
Speaker 7: from last year in there too. I'd be excited to

3863
02:51:12,800 --> 02:51:14,400
Speaker 7: try to get something out of those guys. I think

3864
02:51:14,440 --> 02:51:16,440
Speaker 7: they're they're more talented than they showed last year. I

3865
02:51:16,440 --> 02:51:19,760
Speaker 7: don't know how talented they could be, but Josh gonna

3866
02:51:19,800 --> 02:51:20,280
Speaker 7: have some fun.

3867
02:51:20,800 --> 02:51:23,440
Speaker 4: Cathal and Ireland wants me to tell you, Evan that

3868
02:51:23,760 --> 02:51:26,760
Speaker 4: Chris Simms had Williams at his WR as his WR

3869
02:51:26,840 --> 02:51:27,640
Speaker 4: two he did.

3870
02:51:27,760 --> 02:51:29,280
Speaker 1: I love Chris Sims.

3871
02:51:29,280 --> 02:51:33,320
Speaker 5: I mean, I just Christims. But that's the crux of

3872
02:51:33,400 --> 02:51:37,840
Speaker 5: my argument, Like I don't just dismiss when I don't agree, right,

3873
02:51:38,040 --> 02:51:42,119
Speaker 5: but like sometimes you agree sometimes.

3874
02:51:40,959 --> 02:51:46,119
Speaker 8: I said earlier with Chris Simms that he doesn't shy

3875
02:51:46,160 --> 02:51:49,760
Speaker 8: away from being different, Like he's not a consensus guy

3876
02:51:49,800 --> 02:51:52,080
Speaker 8: when he makes his rankings, and having Kyle Williams at

3877
02:51:52,160 --> 02:51:53,680
Speaker 8: high as certainly not the consensus.

3878
02:51:53,800 --> 02:51:56,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's made a reputation in a in a

3879
02:51:56,360 --> 02:52:00,880
Speaker 4: career at being dumb. So let's go to uh kidding Chris,

3880
02:52:00,920 --> 02:52:04,199
Speaker 4: we hired him in a presonnel department Landon and Jackson

3881
02:52:04,240 --> 02:52:04,960
Speaker 4: to Buffaloedo.

3882
02:52:05,680 --> 02:52:09,959
Speaker 5: I didn't the Patriots. Patriots is weed. I know, like

3883
02:52:09,959 --> 02:52:12,400
Speaker 5: you're not supposed to do that in the media. But Dave,

3884
02:52:12,480 --> 02:52:13,920
Speaker 5: let's speak grown ups and say it's weak.

3885
02:52:14,040 --> 02:52:17,200
Speaker 4: David writes in uh, he says, we all know the

3886
02:52:17,240 --> 02:52:19,279
Speaker 4: next pick will be Jack Sawyer book.

3887
02:52:19,040 --> 02:52:21,960
Speaker 8: It honestly though, like I wouldn't hate it. And at

3888
02:52:22,000 --> 02:52:26,119
Speaker 8: this point I'm being sincere dude, like I would say

3889
02:52:26,120 --> 02:52:28,520
Speaker 8: that getting back to the trenches. You know, you got

3890
02:52:28,520 --> 02:52:31,000
Speaker 8: your skilled players, you got your speed and your explosiveness

3891
02:52:31,080 --> 02:52:33,640
Speaker 8: on offense. You needed to do it. Now go back

3892
02:52:33,680 --> 02:52:35,920
Speaker 8: to the trenches, you know, get an edge, get it,

3893
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:38,640
Speaker 8: Get another offensive lineman, you know, whether it's a tackle

3894
02:52:38,720 --> 02:52:41,400
Speaker 8: or guard or both, you know, and try to beef

3895
02:52:41,480 --> 02:52:43,520
Speaker 8: up the trenches again now because I think you know,

3896
02:52:43,600 --> 02:52:45,240
Speaker 8: these two guys are are going to be fun to

3897
02:52:45,240 --> 02:52:47,440
Speaker 8: play with, but you gotta keep Drake May upright to

3898
02:52:47,480 --> 02:52:47,920
Speaker 8: play with them.

3899
02:52:47,959 --> 02:52:49,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Paul laughed at me.

3900
02:52:49,680 --> 02:52:51,600
Speaker 7: We had I had a question on my ask me

3901
02:52:51,640 --> 02:52:53,720
Speaker 7: anything in the newsletter and someone was like, you know,

3902
02:52:53,760 --> 02:52:56,120
Speaker 7: what what four things have to happen for you?

3903
02:52:56,360 --> 02:52:56,480
Speaker 4: Or not?

3904
02:52:56,520 --> 02:52:58,040
Speaker 7: I don't know if they said for there's what would

3905
02:52:58,080 --> 02:52:59,680
Speaker 7: you what would have to happen for for this to

3906
02:52:59,680 --> 02:53:00,360
Speaker 7: be a good draft for you?

3907
02:53:00,400 --> 02:53:01,720
Speaker 1: And I said, final.

3908
02:53:01,480 --> 02:53:03,920
Speaker 7: Left tackle, a wide receiver with speed, one of the

3909
02:53:04,000 --> 02:53:05,560
Speaker 7: running backs, and one of these edges.

3910
02:53:05,600 --> 02:53:08,120
Speaker 1: And they've hit three of the four right now. I

3911
02:53:08,440 --> 02:53:08,920
Speaker 1: won't lie.

3912
02:53:08,959 --> 02:53:11,480
Speaker 7: I mean I'm a little bit less enthusiastic now about

3913
02:53:11,480 --> 02:53:14,959
Speaker 7: some of the edge rushers for three down potential than

3914
02:53:15,000 --> 02:53:18,040
Speaker 7: I was earlier in the draft. But you got to

3915
02:53:18,080 --> 02:53:20,520
Speaker 7: give to get and you know that's something that we'll see.

3916
02:53:20,720 --> 02:53:22,840
Speaker 5: Guy just went too with Landon Jackson Jackson.

3917
02:53:22,879 --> 02:53:24,360
Speaker 7: But I still say, you know, I'm still open to

3918
02:53:24,400 --> 02:53:27,480
Speaker 7: a guy like Josiah Stewart who probably not gonna be

3919
02:53:28,120 --> 02:53:30,360
Speaker 7: a three down defensive end, like I thought a guy

3920
02:53:30,400 --> 02:53:32,520
Speaker 7: like Nick Gordon could potentially be for this off for

3921
02:53:32,600 --> 02:53:34,880
Speaker 7: this defense. But I think you would fill a need

3922
02:53:34,920 --> 02:53:36,800
Speaker 7: and bring some juice to the pass rush. That's I mean,

3923
02:53:36,800 --> 02:53:38,520
Speaker 7: when I look at this team right now, it's one

3924
02:53:38,520 --> 02:53:40,600
Speaker 7: of my biggest remaining concerns. We know a lot of

3925
02:53:40,600 --> 02:53:44,320
Speaker 7: what their concerns are, but invigorating that pass rush, making

3926
02:53:44,320 --> 02:53:47,160
Speaker 7: sure that pass rush is elite, not you know, Chase

3927
02:53:47,200 --> 02:53:50,360
Speaker 7: on Harold Landry. They'll bring they'll bring some juice in experience,

3928
02:53:50,400 --> 02:53:52,360
Speaker 7: and they'll run stunts and they'll get some pressure. But

3929
02:53:52,760 --> 02:53:54,480
Speaker 7: who's that guy who's gonna come off the edge and

3930
02:53:54,480 --> 02:53:55,040
Speaker 7: have some speed.

3931
02:53:55,040 --> 02:53:57,160
Speaker 4: I think it's necessary our next pick has to be

3932
02:53:57,160 --> 02:54:00,440
Speaker 4: scat of a. I mean, come on, right.

3933
02:54:00,480 --> 02:54:02,720
Speaker 1: I mean right, we do I think I don't know.

3934
02:54:02,760 --> 02:54:05,560
Speaker 8: I think I would just love to see them go

3935
02:54:05,640 --> 02:54:08,320
Speaker 8: back to the trenches now, like use seventy seven and

3936
02:54:08,600 --> 02:54:12,800
Speaker 8: one oh six offensive line, defensive line. You got your

3937
02:54:12,879 --> 02:54:15,360
Speaker 8: you got your toys, you got your skilled players, you know,

3938
02:54:16,040 --> 02:54:17,480
Speaker 8: go get.

3939
02:54:16,879 --> 02:54:19,360
Speaker 1: Like corner, Like is there some value at corner right now?

3940
02:54:19,440 --> 02:54:21,640
Speaker 1: Or there's some guys that have fallen because of the corner, Like,

3941
02:54:21,800 --> 02:54:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think did Revel go yet?

3942
02:54:24,280 --> 02:54:29,960
Speaker 7: I mean, I know he's the guy that he's supremely

3943
02:54:30,640 --> 02:54:31,119
Speaker 7: I think.

3944
02:54:31,000 --> 02:54:35,879
Speaker 8: He's about to do go now, Thomas, I think the Jets. Yeah, No,

3945
02:54:36,160 --> 02:54:39,120
Speaker 8: Jacob Parrish from Kansas State, it's another guy I've really liked. Uh.

3946
02:54:39,200 --> 02:54:41,800
Speaker 8: You know, can see him playing in the slot. Comp

3947
02:54:41,879 --> 02:54:45,400
Speaker 8: him to like a Jonathan Jones type. Uh. Shavon Revels

3948
02:54:45,480 --> 02:54:49,160
Speaker 8: like a size speed prospect, you know, coming off that injury.

3949
02:54:49,440 --> 02:54:53,240
Speaker 8: Quincy Riley's got good ball skills, good good on ball production.

3950
02:54:53,360 --> 02:54:55,760
Speaker 8: Noel Williams is the guy people really like from Cal two.

3951
02:54:56,360 --> 02:54:59,360
Speaker 8: There there definitely are corners out there to be had,

3952
02:54:59,400 --> 02:55:01,920
Speaker 8: for sure. I mean just looking quickly here at the

3953
02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:05,520
Speaker 8: edge rushers. You know, Jordan Birch and Brady Swinson are

3954
02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:09,040
Speaker 8: two guys people like Princey's still out there as well

3955
02:55:09,760 --> 02:55:12,320
Speaker 8: if they wanted to go that direction, and Jack Sawyer

3956
02:55:12,360 --> 02:55:15,600
Speaker 8: and Baron Sorel as well. So I think there's still

3957
02:55:15,600 --> 02:55:18,920
Speaker 8: plenty of talent on Edge two. And you know, I'm

3958
02:55:18,959 --> 02:55:21,880
Speaker 8: sure there's still plenty of talent at like Interior Offensive Line.

3959
02:55:21,879 --> 02:55:25,680
Speaker 8: You know, Mylom's still out there, fair Child, Mabou Frasier,

3960
02:55:26,040 --> 02:55:27,120
Speaker 8: you know those types of guys.

3961
02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:34,039
Speaker 4: Let's see, I gentleman, says Katina. She's from Houston. I

3962
02:55:34,040 --> 02:55:37,080
Speaker 4: don't mind when people disagree with my opinions, but respectfully,

3963
02:55:37,160 --> 02:55:40,800
Speaker 4: I can't take anything. Chris Simms says seriously, as far

3964
02:55:40,840 --> 02:55:44,039
Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, he lost any legitimacy after his time

3965
02:55:44,120 --> 02:55:47,200
Speaker 4: as QB one at UT where for the most part

3966
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:52,080
Speaker 4: he behaved like that animal Fred called Richie Campanella. Until

3967
02:55:52,120 --> 02:55:55,520
Speaker 4: proven otherwise, I shall be cautiously optimistic about all our picks.

3968
02:55:55,560 --> 02:55:58,120
Speaker 4: I love that the one word Will Campbell used to

3969
02:55:58,120 --> 02:56:02,400
Speaker 4: describe his play was dirty. I've heard nasty, I heard violent. Also,

3970
02:56:03,320 --> 02:56:05,760
Speaker 4: I don't think dirty dirty. I want the Old Line

3971
02:56:05,800 --> 02:56:08,360
Speaker 4: to be full of intimidating dudes, even if they look

3972
02:56:08,440 --> 02:56:12,360
Speaker 4: like giant man babies when they take their helmets off, Chub. Indeed,

3973
02:56:13,120 --> 02:56:17,440
Speaker 4: can we focus on some defense now? All right? Yeah, yeah,

3974
02:56:17,560 --> 02:56:19,000
Speaker 4: now you've got Duce listening.

3975
02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:22,119
Speaker 5: I think they did plenty of focusing on the defense.

3976
02:56:22,200 --> 02:56:23,520
Speaker 4: And that's the free agency with.

3977
02:56:23,480 --> 02:56:26,800
Speaker 5: Milton Williams and Carlton Davis and Harold Landry and Robert Splaine.

3978
02:56:26,879 --> 02:56:30,680
Speaker 5: I mean they signed four starters and I thought they

3979
02:56:30,720 --> 02:56:34,680
Speaker 5: even got the what's his face the defensive tackle Kyries.

3980
02:56:34,640 --> 02:56:39,920
Speaker 7: Tonga, Like, seriously, for you.

3981
02:56:40,360 --> 02:56:41,320
Speaker 4: One young edge.

3982
02:56:41,360 --> 02:56:42,320
Speaker 1: I want one young edge.

3983
02:56:42,680 --> 02:56:43,039
Speaker 8: I'm with.

3984
02:56:44,520 --> 02:56:48,160
Speaker 5: He would be sick of taking take another guy like

3985
02:56:48,200 --> 02:56:50,279
Speaker 5: I love, I liked you a plan of the two guys.

3986
02:56:50,280 --> 02:56:55,280
Speaker 5: You know it's the trenches. Yeah six yeah, sure, line

3987
02:56:55,320 --> 02:56:56,039
Speaker 5: defensive line.

3988
02:56:56,080 --> 02:56:59,240
Speaker 8: I disagree with a lot on this because it's a

3989
02:56:59,280 --> 02:57:02,720
Speaker 8: really great it's a really great edge class. It's it's

3990
02:57:02,720 --> 02:57:05,360
Speaker 8: the strength of the draft. Is these a rushers? So

3991
02:57:05,480 --> 02:57:07,280
Speaker 8: I just grab one of them, like it doesn't you know,

3992
02:57:07,400 --> 02:57:10,200
Speaker 8: have to go crazy and draft when early, like you know,

3993
02:57:10,520 --> 02:57:14,119
Speaker 8: some some people are maybe suggesting they should have done.

3994
02:57:14,440 --> 02:57:15,920
Speaker 8: But I just go get one now.

3995
02:57:16,240 --> 02:57:18,080
Speaker 7: I mean I wouldn't be appost to Jack Sawyer. I

3996
02:57:18,080 --> 02:57:19,600
Speaker 7: mean he was He's the big board guy for me.

3997
02:57:19,800 --> 02:57:21,640
Speaker 7: I just a little more pass rush juice.

3998
02:57:21,640 --> 02:57:22,320
Speaker 1: That's you know, the.

3999
02:57:22,320 --> 02:57:25,000
Speaker 7: Way I'm leaning, I'd probably said like more Jesiah Stewart

4000
02:57:25,080 --> 02:57:27,800
Speaker 7: right now than Jack Sawr. But I would definitely take

4001
02:57:27,879 --> 02:57:29,840
Speaker 7: a guy like Jack Sawyer, who I think you know

4002
02:57:29,920 --> 02:57:32,240
Speaker 7: could play early downs, and then I paul your thing,

4003
02:57:32,840 --> 02:57:35,080
Speaker 7: allow Chase On to be the past rush guy and

4004
02:57:35,160 --> 02:57:36,120
Speaker 7: let him do that specially.

4005
02:57:36,160 --> 02:57:39,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's fine. I just don't want him playing

4006
02:57:39,400 --> 02:57:40,560
Speaker 5: every down or anything like that.

4007
02:57:41,760 --> 02:57:48,360
Speaker 4: Let's go to Andre in New York. Hey, Andre Dello, everybody, Hey,

4008
02:57:48,760 --> 02:57:49,760
Speaker 4: happy draft Dave.

4009
02:57:50,080 --> 02:57:53,280
Speaker 29: Yeah, I wanted to say thank you guys for all

4010
02:57:53,280 --> 02:57:56,000
Speaker 29: if you do when it comes down to breaking down

4011
02:57:56,080 --> 02:57:58,640
Speaker 29: statistics and everything. I'm kind of new to football.

4012
02:57:58,680 --> 02:57:59,120
Speaker 10: I got a thing.

4013
02:57:59,160 --> 02:58:01,480
Speaker 29: It's a two thousand and eight so I love watching

4014
02:58:01,480 --> 02:58:04,560
Speaker 29: all the dissection of the Patriots that my squad since

4015
02:58:04,600 --> 02:58:07,440
Speaker 29: two thousand and eight. Any Who, I wanted to know

4016
02:58:07,640 --> 02:58:10,160
Speaker 29: I love the draft picks first of off, and wanted

4017
02:58:10,200 --> 02:58:11,760
Speaker 29: to know, if you think we get a fullback and

4018
02:58:11,800 --> 02:58:13,920
Speaker 29: get back to like running the ball, we can get

4019
02:58:13,959 --> 02:58:16,800
Speaker 29: another thousand yard rusher. I don't think we had one

4020
02:58:16,840 --> 02:58:21,440
Speaker 29: since Lamango twenty two, so I think that would help

4021
02:58:21,680 --> 02:58:22,320
Speaker 29: Drake May a.

4022
02:58:22,280 --> 02:58:26,400
Speaker 4: Lot Okay, So will we get a fullback? I don't

4023
02:58:26,400 --> 02:58:30,080
Speaker 4: think so, and I hope that that's not what's required

4024
02:58:30,200 --> 02:58:35,279
Speaker 4: in today's seventeen game season to get a thousand yard rusher. Yeah,

4025
02:58:35,840 --> 02:58:39,560
Speaker 4: you know so, Like, but Josh McDaniels has loved the

4026
02:58:39,560 --> 02:58:42,800
Speaker 4: fullback in the past. But I don't think that that's

4027
02:58:42,800 --> 02:58:43,280
Speaker 4: gonna happen.

4028
02:58:43,320 --> 02:58:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I said it before. I just think he'd

4029
02:58:44,600 --> 02:58:45,400
Speaker 1: already be here.

4030
02:58:45,240 --> 02:58:47,360
Speaker 7: You're You're not right, Oh, our whole offense is gonna

4031
02:58:47,400 --> 02:58:50,280
Speaker 7: run through a Day three rookie Like I don't.

4032
02:58:50,520 --> 02:58:51,360
Speaker 1: It's just hard to see.

4033
02:58:51,560 --> 02:58:55,760
Speaker 4: Yep. So the Patriots are getting close. The Broncos pick

4034
02:58:55,840 --> 02:58:59,560
Speaker 4: is in, then come the forty nine Ers Cowboys, and

4035
02:58:59,600 --> 02:59:02,680
Speaker 4: then the Patriots. So we're getting close to that second

4036
02:59:02,680 --> 02:59:06,480
Speaker 4: pick in the third round. This is the Matthew Judon pick.

4037
02:59:07,240 --> 02:59:08,840
Speaker 4: Tim's in Seattle. What's up? Tim?

4038
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:09,800
Speaker 10: To me?

4039
02:59:10,600 --> 02:59:12,879
Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, I'm.

4040
02:59:12,720 --> 02:59:16,119
Speaker 31: So happy they took Kyle Williams like I said they should,

4041
02:59:16,160 --> 02:59:19,640
Speaker 31: didn't have to trade up and his uh felder would day.

4042
02:59:19,720 --> 02:59:20,960
Speaker 19: I felt a little tingle.

4043
02:59:21,720 --> 02:59:25,880
Speaker 4: Okay, something moved, something move, That's right.

4044
02:59:26,480 --> 02:59:27,240
Speaker 19: I'm pumped.

4045
02:59:29,360 --> 02:59:32,400
Speaker 13: So I'm just curious here best available.

4046
02:59:32,440 --> 02:59:35,120
Speaker 31: What do you guys think in Jordan Birch here or

4047
02:59:35,280 --> 02:59:37,119
Speaker 31: Jack Toyer, let me know what you think.

4048
02:59:37,200 --> 02:59:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, something something like George Sanders.

4049
02:59:40,280 --> 02:59:43,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, Jordans Jordan Birch is a is a good good

4050
02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:44,520
Speaker 8: shout here.

4051
02:59:44,879 --> 02:59:45,000
Speaker 2: You know.

4052
02:59:45,080 --> 02:59:48,520
Speaker 8: Joshua Farmer is another guy that they had in for

4053
02:59:48,560 --> 02:59:51,720
Speaker 8: a thirty visit. And uh, you can play into your

4054
02:59:52,080 --> 02:59:55,200
Speaker 8: defensive line or play end. Probably a hand in the

4055
02:59:55,200 --> 02:59:57,480
Speaker 8: dird type of player. But if they're gonna run that

4056
02:59:57,640 --> 02:59:59,760
Speaker 8: like four to three style defense, then maybe he can

4057
02:59:59,760 --> 03:00:04,040
Speaker 8: be a four three n for Vrabel Brady's Brandon Swinson.

4058
03:00:04,160 --> 03:00:06,360
Speaker 8: Sorry I keep saying his name wrong from LSU's a

4059
03:00:06,720 --> 03:00:09,480
Speaker 8: sort of in that category of more stand up edgreshers

4060
03:00:09,480 --> 03:00:11,560
Speaker 8: as his princely who I am not going to try

4061
03:00:11,560 --> 03:00:14,320
Speaker 8: to pronounce his last name is I said, I always

4062
03:00:14,400 --> 03:00:17,480
Speaker 8: butcher it. So yeah, there there's a lot of edge

4063
03:00:17,480 --> 03:00:22,480
Speaker 8: talent here. I would say safety still may safety yeah

4064
03:00:22,520 --> 03:00:24,440
Speaker 8: maybe yeah, safety yeah, free Safety's I.

4065
03:00:24,360 --> 03:00:26,520
Speaker 5: Also think Mike is right about corner you can you

4066
03:00:26,520 --> 03:00:29,440
Speaker 5: can use another corner too, and there's a handful available.

4067
03:00:29,520 --> 03:00:31,440
Speaker 4: But what about Xavier Watts.

4068
03:00:32,320 --> 03:00:34,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd like Xavier Wats a lot. I mean, he

4069
03:00:34,200 --> 03:00:37,200
Speaker 8: plays with his hair on fire. He's a really aggressive player.

4070
03:00:38,480 --> 03:00:40,240
Speaker 8: Really just flies to the football.

4071
03:00:40,320 --> 03:00:42,640
Speaker 4: See more of a strong safety.

4072
03:00:42,879 --> 03:00:45,720
Speaker 8: I would say so. Probably. There are some concerns about

4073
03:00:45,720 --> 03:00:48,800
Speaker 8: his top end speed and is a range from center field,

4074
03:00:49,440 --> 03:00:52,600
Speaker 8: but he plays with great instincts in a great motor

4075
03:00:52,680 --> 03:00:56,000
Speaker 8: and almost makes up for it with just being there

4076
03:00:56,120 --> 03:00:56,680
Speaker 8: all the time.

4077
03:00:56,800 --> 03:01:00,840
Speaker 1: You know, trade it back, did they?

4078
03:01:01,200 --> 03:01:04,920
Speaker 7: Well, they moved so all of a sudden, they're they're

4079
03:01:04,920 --> 03:01:06,240
Speaker 7: about eight picks ahead.

4080
03:01:06,040 --> 03:01:09,560
Speaker 4: Now, well, waiting on the forty nine ers Cowboys? Oh

4081
03:01:09,640 --> 03:01:12,240
Speaker 4: oh yes, what happened here? Where do we go?

4082
03:01:12,360 --> 03:01:13,000
Speaker 5: Don't see us?

4083
03:01:13,200 --> 03:01:13,320
Speaker 4: No?

4084
03:01:13,400 --> 03:01:13,560
Speaker 10: Wait?

4085
03:01:13,920 --> 03:01:14,640
Speaker 4: Where did we go?

4086
03:01:14,760 --> 03:01:16,119
Speaker 5: Till we go? Out of the third round?

4087
03:01:16,120 --> 03:01:19,680
Speaker 1: Seven ten picks? Now in between Tampa and the Lac.

4088
03:01:20,600 --> 03:01:21,640
Speaker 5: Tampa and the Lack.

4089
03:01:24,320 --> 03:01:29,200
Speaker 8: They traded with the Patriots. The trade is seventy seven

4090
03:01:29,360 --> 03:01:32,680
Speaker 8: for eighty five and one forty six. So the Patriots

4091
03:01:32,680 --> 03:01:35,720
Speaker 8: now have one forty four and one forty six and

4092
03:01:35,879 --> 03:01:38,360
Speaker 8: one seventy one all in the fifth round. So they

4093
03:01:38,360 --> 03:01:39,680
Speaker 8: added a fifth round pick here.

4094
03:01:40,720 --> 03:01:43,160
Speaker 4: Okay, And so the next pick that the Patriots have

4095
03:01:43,480 --> 03:01:46,600
Speaker 4: is number eightighty five in the third round?

4096
03:01:47,400 --> 03:01:48,320
Speaker 8: Correct, yep?

4097
03:01:49,720 --> 03:01:51,920
Speaker 5: So what do they have? Eighty five, one forty four

4098
03:01:51,920 --> 03:01:52,440
Speaker 5: and what else?

4099
03:01:52,520 --> 03:01:53,280
Speaker 1: One forty six?

4100
03:01:53,560 --> 03:01:55,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, so there are now there are picks that are

4101
03:01:55,400 --> 03:01:58,119
Speaker 8: left are eighty five, one oh six, one forty four,

4102
03:01:58,640 --> 03:02:02,119
Speaker 8: one forty six, one, two twenty, and two thirty eight.

4103
03:02:02,160 --> 03:02:05,280
Speaker 8: So they have one, two, three, four, five, six seven

4104
03:02:05,320 --> 03:02:05,879
Speaker 8: picks left.

4105
03:02:05,959 --> 03:02:08,920
Speaker 4: Now what they picked up more picks? Paul love It.

4106
03:02:11,920 --> 03:02:13,600
Speaker 4: Are you happy with that trade down?

4107
03:02:15,560 --> 03:02:17,600
Speaker 7: I don't know, generally, no, just because I wanted to

4108
03:02:17,640 --> 03:02:19,400
Speaker 7: like make the pick and like put a bow on

4109
03:02:19,480 --> 03:02:22,119
Speaker 7: the evening, but I wasn't like, Oh man, I hope

4110
03:02:22,120 --> 03:02:23,800
Speaker 7: they're gonna be able to get a certain player that's

4111
03:02:23,879 --> 03:02:25,520
Speaker 7: right here. So I guess they probably see a lot

4112
03:02:25,520 --> 03:02:28,039
Speaker 7: of guys similar right now, which is generally how it

4113
03:02:28,080 --> 03:02:30,120
Speaker 7: seems like the rest of the NFL is viewing the

4114
03:02:30,120 --> 03:02:32,039
Speaker 7: board here in the middle of the third round.

4115
03:02:33,560 --> 03:02:35,200
Speaker 1: So I guess it's just it is what it is.

4116
03:02:35,240 --> 03:02:36,760
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what they're waiting on.

4117
03:02:36,920 --> 03:02:39,960
Speaker 5: Woild you say one forty six and one seventy one, Okay, yeah,

4118
03:02:39,959 --> 03:02:42,560
Speaker 5: it's just one forty six they added. Yeah, correct, So

4119
03:02:42,600 --> 03:02:45,360
Speaker 5: they moved from seventy seven to eighty five and got

4120
03:02:45,360 --> 03:02:48,600
Speaker 5: one forty six to do that correct the fifth rounder?

4121
03:02:49,600 --> 03:02:56,920
Speaker 4: Okay, um, you're killing me, very you're killing me. Okay,

4122
03:02:57,080 --> 03:02:59,280
Speaker 4: So what do we do Should we stick around?

4123
03:03:00,200 --> 03:03:01,000
Speaker 1: Is just stick around?

4124
03:03:01,120 --> 03:03:01,320
Speaker 10: Yes?

4125
03:03:01,640 --> 03:03:03,240
Speaker 1: Who was the trade wind go by Quick?

4126
03:03:03,320 --> 03:03:07,080
Speaker 8: It was with the Panthers. Al Yeah, I mean I

4127
03:03:07,160 --> 03:03:09,039
Speaker 8: just rattled off a bunch of names at this point

4128
03:03:09,080 --> 03:03:10,879
Speaker 8: in the draft. I think, you know, there's a lot

4129
03:03:10,920 --> 03:03:13,960
Speaker 8: of players that are similarly graded at this point, and

4130
03:03:14,160 --> 03:03:18,879
Speaker 8: you know kind of all I would say heavy, heavy

4131
03:03:19,400 --> 03:03:23,160
Speaker 8: on certain positions as well. You know, edge corner. There's

4132
03:03:23,160 --> 03:03:26,360
Speaker 8: obviously a million running backs left still that they're that

4133
03:03:26,480 --> 03:03:30,440
Speaker 8: running back run really hasn't fully started yet. So the

4134
03:03:30,440 --> 03:03:32,840
Speaker 8: Patriots probably felt like they were going to get the

4135
03:03:32,879 --> 03:03:34,840
Speaker 8: same player that they're gonna they were going to pick

4136
03:03:34,840 --> 03:03:37,879
Speaker 8: at seventy seven, at eighty five, and they had.

4137
03:03:37,760 --> 03:03:40,560
Speaker 4: A pick Tom and Melbourne says this emails for Mike

4138
03:03:40,640 --> 03:03:43,800
Speaker 4: to so suck at Mike. I love you, but hearing

4139
03:03:43,840 --> 03:03:46,120
Speaker 4: you whine about front seven for two years as we

4140
03:03:46,200 --> 03:03:48,560
Speaker 4: watch perhaps the worst offense in the NFL has been

4141
03:03:48,680 --> 03:03:52,280
Speaker 4: very annoying. I'm glad they've totally avoided making a front

4142
03:03:52,280 --> 03:03:55,160
Speaker 4: seven pick so far. You will deal with Keon White

4143
03:03:55,240 --> 03:03:58,160
Speaker 4: starting in week one, and you will like it. Seriously,

4144
03:03:58,400 --> 03:04:01,560
Speaker 4: did that guy run over your or something? Now that

4145
03:04:01,560 --> 03:04:04,000
Speaker 4: the joking's out of the way, loving the draft coverage

4146
03:04:04,000 --> 03:04:04,920
Speaker 4: and thanks for all you do.

4147
03:04:05,080 --> 03:04:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense was thirtieth and dv away, so I

4148
03:04:07,760 --> 03:04:08,080
Speaker 1: get it.

4149
03:04:08,120 --> 03:04:10,400
Speaker 7: But the defense was terrible too, So don't fault me

4150
03:04:10,440 --> 03:04:12,200
Speaker 7: for want defensive guals.

4151
03:04:12,400 --> 03:04:14,879
Speaker 5: I'm making fun of you because I believe that they've

4152
03:04:15,000 --> 03:04:17,800
Speaker 5: significantly addressed the defense, not because I think you were

4153
03:04:17,800 --> 03:04:20,360
Speaker 5: wrong about criticizing the last defense.

4154
03:04:20,600 --> 03:04:22,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't think I'm wrong to say to

4155
03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:25,039
Speaker 7: look at the defensive front. Oh god, no, this is

4156
03:04:25,040 --> 03:04:27,560
Speaker 7: a veteran defensive front that you're gonna get a year

4157
03:04:27,600 --> 03:04:28,520
Speaker 7: or two out of it best.

4158
03:04:28,560 --> 03:04:31,520
Speaker 5: And the guys that people love that have played have

4159
03:04:31,640 --> 03:04:34,400
Speaker 5: been responsible for the thirtieth dv away right right, And

4160
03:04:34,440 --> 03:04:36,560
Speaker 5: so they needed to get better, like I just think

4161
03:04:36,600 --> 03:04:37,640
Speaker 5: they did right well.

4162
03:04:37,680 --> 03:04:40,680
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, Landry was released, he could have signed anywhere.

4163
03:04:41,560 --> 03:04:42,680
Speaker 4: He's a lot of money.

4164
03:04:42,680 --> 03:04:44,920
Speaker 7: In the defense, they did, But I'm just saying the

4165
03:04:45,000 --> 03:04:46,879
Speaker 7: most what's the most important part of a defense their

4166
03:04:46,920 --> 03:04:47,400
Speaker 7: pass rush.

4167
03:04:47,520 --> 03:04:49,280
Speaker 1: Right, Do you feel great? I mean, yeah, I don't

4168
03:04:49,280 --> 03:04:49,760
Speaker 1: feel great.

4169
03:04:50,120 --> 03:04:52,000
Speaker 5: I don't feel great about the pass rush. I don't,

4170
03:04:52,000 --> 03:04:53,640
Speaker 5: But I don't feel great about guys that you're going

4171
03:04:53,680 --> 03:04:55,480
Speaker 5: to draft in the third round for your pass rush.

4172
03:04:55,800 --> 03:04:57,760
Speaker 7: But that's but that's what I'm banging the table for.

4173
03:04:57,840 --> 03:05:00,400
Speaker 7: I'm just asking for a pass rusher in the around,

4174
03:05:00,440 --> 03:05:01,960
Speaker 7: and you guys are acting like, no, we've done too

4175
03:05:02,000 --> 03:05:02,320
Speaker 7: much on.

4176
03:05:02,360 --> 03:05:05,240
Speaker 5: Because I don't think it's really worth wide receiver. Like

4177
03:05:05,280 --> 03:05:07,560
Speaker 5: I would rather have Harold Landry than the third round

4178
03:05:07,600 --> 03:05:12,920
Speaker 5: pass rush if you wanted to find process.

4179
03:05:13,040 --> 03:05:13,720
Speaker 1: No, this is fine.

4180
03:05:13,720 --> 03:05:17,000
Speaker 7: No, when you're talking about how they think, well you

4181
03:05:17,000 --> 03:05:19,520
Speaker 7: were team Herold Landry and Chase on this.

4182
03:05:20,320 --> 03:05:21,040
Speaker 4: No, this was great.

4183
03:05:21,240 --> 03:05:22,800
Speaker 1: We got all we need with pass rush. Now we're

4184
03:05:22,840 --> 03:05:23,520
Speaker 1: gonna be fine.

4185
03:05:23,959 --> 03:05:31,600
Speaker 5: For the record, I haven't mentioned Chase on and I won't, Okay,

4186
03:05:31,879 --> 03:05:32,320
Speaker 5: So it's.

4187
03:05:32,200 --> 03:05:34,039
Speaker 1: Just like one of their defensive ends period.

4188
03:05:34,120 --> 03:05:35,720
Speaker 5: I don't like any of them.

4189
03:05:35,959 --> 03:05:36,680
Speaker 4: You don't.

4190
03:05:36,920 --> 03:05:39,280
Speaker 5: I think that you're right in saying that they need

4191
03:05:39,400 --> 03:05:43,400
Speaker 5: edge help. I think they needed wide receiver help and

4192
03:05:43,440 --> 03:05:46,160
Speaker 5: playmaker help in general more than they needed edge help.

4193
03:05:46,680 --> 03:05:48,800
Speaker 5: And you can't. I've said this from the start. You

4194
03:05:48,879 --> 03:05:50,160
Speaker 5: can't fill every hole.

4195
03:05:50,520 --> 03:05:51,400
Speaker 4: We're coming close.

4196
03:05:51,520 --> 03:05:55,320
Speaker 5: But still if they take if they take an edge

4197
03:05:55,360 --> 03:05:57,959
Speaker 5: guy here, I'm not gonna sit there and say what

4198
03:05:58,000 --> 03:06:00,840
Speaker 5: a waste of a pick. They need edge help. I'm

4199
03:06:00,879 --> 03:06:02,680
Speaker 5: just not expecting edge help now.

4200
03:06:03,160 --> 03:06:05,440
Speaker 8: I think I think I think you're under selling the class,

4201
03:06:05,760 --> 03:06:07,560
Speaker 8: like this class is really You've.

4202
03:06:07,400 --> 03:06:09,240
Speaker 5: Seen a lot of guys taken in the hundreds and

4203
03:06:09,280 --> 03:06:11,640
Speaker 5: they generally hit or miss. And I'm going to these

4204
03:06:11,640 --> 03:06:14,680
Speaker 5: guys are going to be in that that range as well. Okay,

4205
03:06:16,120 --> 03:06:17,720
Speaker 5: So you can go one hundred and six is in

4206
03:06:17,720 --> 03:06:19,959
Speaker 5: the top hundred. I can't say eighty seven is like

4207
03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:25,600
Speaker 5: one hundred and eighty five. Okay, So anyway, I like plan.

4208
03:06:26,240 --> 03:06:29,680
Speaker 5: I like Evans' plan of the trenches more because I

4209
03:06:29,720 --> 03:06:33,480
Speaker 5: do think you can get lineman at this stage that

4210
03:06:33,520 --> 03:06:37,840
Speaker 5: can contribute. I would think that the edge guys are

4211
03:06:37,840 --> 03:06:41,160
Speaker 5: more skilled guys and the best ones are gone now

4212
03:06:41,160 --> 03:06:44,240
Speaker 5: and now you're just kind of taking flyers. Look, here's

4213
03:06:43,760 --> 03:06:46,200
Speaker 5: the odds, but I won't hate it if they take

4214
03:06:46,200 --> 03:06:47,800
Speaker 5: an edge guy. They need edge helps.

4215
03:06:48,000 --> 03:06:51,680
Speaker 4: Realistic. The odds of any draft is the deeper you get,

4216
03:06:52,080 --> 03:06:56,680
Speaker 4: the less the odds. And we're really counting on these

4217
03:06:56,680 --> 03:07:00,000
Speaker 4: first three picks hitting. And if the first three picks

4218
03:07:00,120 --> 03:07:03,840
Speaker 4: of anybody's draft hit, that's a great draft, that's a

4219
03:07:03,879 --> 03:07:06,440
Speaker 4: great draft. And the odds of now four or five

4220
03:07:07,040 --> 03:07:10,080
Speaker 4: hitting your not round, but your fourth and fifth pick.

4221
03:07:10,160 --> 03:07:11,080
Speaker 5: So I'm also.

4222
03:07:10,879 --> 03:07:13,200
Speaker 4: Hitting the odds are starting to decrease right now.

4223
03:07:13,240 --> 03:07:14,760
Speaker 5: But I like to make fun of Mike and defend

4224
03:07:14,800 --> 03:07:18,560
Speaker 5: him at the same time because he's right, Like this defense,

4225
03:07:19,120 --> 03:07:21,480
Speaker 5: everybody just has been pounding on the offense, and with

4226
03:07:21,560 --> 03:07:23,920
Speaker 5: good reason because it's so obvious that they can't score,

4227
03:07:24,200 --> 03:07:26,920
Speaker 5: and people don't realize that the defense has been every

4228
03:07:26,959 --> 03:07:30,080
Speaker 5: bit as bad. Well, no, don't see, that's the right.

4229
03:07:30,160 --> 03:07:31,360
Speaker 4: The offense doesn't help.

4230
03:07:31,240 --> 03:07:33,400
Speaker 5: It, and the defense doesn't help the offense. Well, I

4231
03:07:33,720 --> 03:07:35,560
Speaker 5: think they get no help from either because they were

4232
03:07:35,760 --> 03:07:37,480
Speaker 5: equally bad on both sides.

4233
03:07:37,240 --> 03:07:38,959
Speaker 4: Of the bay. So you think they're equally bad.

4234
03:07:39,040 --> 03:07:41,120
Speaker 5: They're horrible on both sides of the ball.

4235
03:07:41,160 --> 03:07:43,560
Speaker 4: I would say, until Drake May got here, the offense

4236
03:07:43,640 --> 03:07:44,040
Speaker 4: was worse.

4237
03:07:46,920 --> 03:07:48,200
Speaker 5: The offense was worse than what.

4238
03:07:48,400 --> 03:07:49,160
Speaker 4: Then the defense.

4239
03:07:50,080 --> 03:07:52,279
Speaker 5: But they're both last, So what's the difference?

4240
03:07:52,320 --> 03:07:54,840
Speaker 4: No, I know, But like as Parcels would say, you know,

4241
03:07:54,879 --> 03:07:56,760
Speaker 4: one side gives the other side hope.

4242
03:07:56,600 --> 03:07:58,520
Speaker 5: Right, and they get no hope from either side. Right,

4243
03:07:58,800 --> 03:08:00,840
Speaker 5: But they can't get off the field and they can't

4244
03:08:00,879 --> 03:08:03,039
Speaker 5: stay on the field. So it's a bad combination. If

4245
03:08:03,040 --> 03:08:03,879
Speaker 5: a Mike is right.

4246
03:08:04,000 --> 03:08:06,560
Speaker 4: If I have to say which one is was worse,

4247
03:08:07,120 --> 03:08:08,080
Speaker 4: I would say the offense.

4248
03:08:08,240 --> 03:08:10,080
Speaker 5: I don't know how you can watch a team run

4249
03:08:10,120 --> 03:08:12,240
Speaker 5: the ball twenty times in a row and say that

4250
03:08:12,280 --> 03:08:14,720
Speaker 5: the offense is worse. The offense went out in that

4251
03:08:14,720 --> 03:08:16,520
Speaker 5: game and scored ten points the first two times they

4252
03:08:16,560 --> 03:08:18,800
Speaker 5: got the ball. Did they get any help from the defense? No,

4253
03:08:19,080 --> 03:08:21,520
Speaker 5: Brian Thomas got a bomb on the next play, and

4254
03:08:21,560 --> 03:08:24,560
Speaker 5: all of a sudden it was floodgates open. They got

4255
03:08:24,560 --> 03:08:27,039
Speaker 5: help from the offense for at least a quarter. They

4256
03:08:27,160 --> 03:08:29,400
Speaker 5: stunk on both sides of the ball. They can't score

4257
03:08:29,600 --> 03:08:31,080
Speaker 5: and they can't stop you from scoring.

4258
03:08:32,040 --> 03:08:32,520
Speaker 1: They needed.

4259
03:08:32,720 --> 03:08:35,320
Speaker 5: This is why I'm gonna make fun of you for

4260
03:08:35,480 --> 03:08:39,160
Speaker 5: looking for like a star at eighty five. But you're

4261
03:08:39,160 --> 03:08:40,959
Speaker 5: not wrong. They need edge help, No, I mean, and

4262
03:08:41,000 --> 03:08:43,680
Speaker 5: that's like I mean, they need they need somebody to

4263
03:08:43,720 --> 03:08:45,400
Speaker 5: be able to rush the passer. But I don't know

4264
03:08:45,440 --> 03:08:48,000
Speaker 5: where I Evans think about trenches. They need, they need.

4265
03:08:48,160 --> 03:08:49,640
Speaker 5: This is why I said, like, if they don't get

4266
03:08:49,640 --> 03:08:52,880
Speaker 5: a left tackle, yeah that was it'd be a disaster.

4267
03:08:53,040 --> 03:08:56,000
Speaker 5: But like, I'm not expecting to fill the fifteen holes

4268
03:08:56,040 --> 03:08:58,760
Speaker 5: that they had to fill. They didn't have more than

4269
03:08:58,920 --> 03:09:02,760
Speaker 5: five or six quality the NFL starters. Now, I think

4270
03:09:02,800 --> 03:09:05,680
Speaker 5: that they're starting to fill some of those gaps. I

4271
03:09:06,360 --> 03:09:08,280
Speaker 5: just would say, like, don't kill that buzz I like

4272
03:09:08,360 --> 03:09:11,080
Speaker 5: this draft, don't get a bus star here, and like

4273
03:09:11,120 --> 03:09:13,959
Speaker 5: the eightieth pick. But I look at what the needs are.

4274
03:09:14,040 --> 03:09:16,000
Speaker 7: I look at the deeps and I say, I'd like

4275
03:09:16,040 --> 03:09:17,640
Speaker 7: to at least put an iron in the fire.

4276
03:09:17,840 --> 03:09:20,240
Speaker 1: And you're right, maybe it'll work, maybe it won't.

4277
03:09:20,360 --> 03:09:22,039
Speaker 5: And that's why I will not make fun of you

4278
03:09:22,120 --> 03:09:23,959
Speaker 5: if they take an edge, because they need an edge.

4279
03:09:23,959 --> 03:09:25,920
Speaker 7: But I still think, like a guy like Josiah Stuart,

4280
03:09:26,080 --> 03:09:28,240
Speaker 7: it's an easy right into the rotation.

4281
03:09:28,480 --> 03:09:29,880
Speaker 1: Hey buddy, you're gonna go rush the passer.

4282
03:09:29,879 --> 03:09:30,960
Speaker 5: You're gonna do what you do best.

4283
03:09:30,959 --> 03:09:33,119
Speaker 1: You're super athletic, you got speed around the corner.

4284
03:09:33,280 --> 03:09:36,520
Speaker 7: That's exactly what we Lackett makes some older edge players,

4285
03:09:36,879 --> 03:09:38,160
Speaker 7: and I was just you know, looking at I mean,

4286
03:09:38,160 --> 03:09:41,039
Speaker 7: they were thirty second and pressure rate on offense thirty second.

4287
03:09:40,760 --> 03:09:41,879
Speaker 4: Thirtieth on defense.

4288
03:09:41,920 --> 03:09:44,879
Speaker 7: So if you believe in pressure counting, they were terrible

4289
03:09:44,920 --> 03:09:46,800
Speaker 7: on offense, they were just a little bit less terrible

4290
03:09:46,840 --> 03:09:47,279
Speaker 7: on defense.

4291
03:09:47,320 --> 03:09:48,640
Speaker 1: So I appreciate all the love.

4292
03:09:48,760 --> 03:09:51,760
Speaker 8: And I'm not say they were less snaps for deuced.

4293
03:09:51,640 --> 03:09:58,880
Speaker 5: I'm not even saying. And because I think. I don't

4294
03:09:58,920 --> 03:10:00,879
Speaker 5: mean I don't think they were a little bit worse

4295
03:10:00,920 --> 03:10:01,440
Speaker 5: on offense.

4296
03:10:01,440 --> 03:10:01,760
Speaker 4: They don't.

4297
03:10:03,080 --> 03:10:06,520
Speaker 5: It's like a poetry, poetry.

4298
03:10:06,000 --> 03:10:08,360
Speaker 4: Musicians musicians stopped.

4299
03:10:09,480 --> 03:10:11,400
Speaker 8: That's that's how I say. I'm agreeing with you.

4300
03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:15,000
Speaker 5: I think the defense awful. Did another one of your educations?

4301
03:10:15,440 --> 03:10:17,640
Speaker 8: Come on, Paul, and you're just jinxing it now.

4302
03:10:17,959 --> 03:10:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the one that was going to

4303
03:10:19,120 --> 03:10:19,360
Speaker 1: be good.

4304
03:10:19,760 --> 03:10:23,360
Speaker 5: I was just they just Lostrell Sus and just crime,

4305
03:10:25,600 --> 03:10:26,360
Speaker 5: we're having fun.

4306
03:10:26,480 --> 03:10:31,160
Speaker 8: Okay, I'm not saying that fifty I'm not saying any

4307
03:10:31,160 --> 03:10:33,840
Speaker 8: of these guys are going to be Terrell's Suggs. But

4308
03:10:34,200 --> 03:10:36,120
Speaker 8: this was the strength of the draft. This was the

4309
03:10:36,360 --> 03:10:38,760
Speaker 8: depth of the edge class, and the depiction of one

4310
03:10:39,440 --> 03:10:41,760
Speaker 8: was the strength of the of the draft. And that

4311
03:10:41,840 --> 03:10:44,920
Speaker 8: means that in the third round at this point, there

4312
03:10:44,920 --> 03:10:47,680
Speaker 8: are still players that people are really excited about as

4313
03:10:47,720 --> 03:10:50,760
Speaker 8: prospects and are really high on them as prospects. Again,

4314
03:10:50,800 --> 03:10:52,640
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that they're going to be stars, but

4315
03:10:52,680 --> 03:10:55,240
Speaker 8: like Kyle Canarden in South Carolina last year had a

4316
03:10:55,360 --> 03:10:58,480
Speaker 8: huge season in the SEC. Like he's a good pass rusher,

4317
03:10:58,480 --> 03:10:59,439
Speaker 8: he's a good player.

4318
03:11:00,520 --> 03:11:01,400
Speaker 4: That was in practice.

4319
03:11:01,600 --> 03:11:05,800
Speaker 8: I wasn't gonna go there. But that's that. This is

4320
03:11:05,840 --> 03:11:07,760
Speaker 8: exactly what I was hoping that they were gonna do,

4321
03:11:08,280 --> 03:11:09,920
Speaker 8: was they were going to target some of the positions

4322
03:11:09,959 --> 03:11:11,880
Speaker 8: that were thinner at the top of the draft. And

4323
03:11:11,920 --> 03:11:14,080
Speaker 8: now just let the edge guys fall to you, right,

4324
03:11:14,160 --> 03:11:16,160
Speaker 8: Let the guys at eighty five and one oh six

4325
03:11:16,200 --> 03:11:18,400
Speaker 8: fall to you that have some upside and have some

4326
03:11:18,520 --> 03:11:21,200
Speaker 8: tools and have some ability, and give them to Terrell

4327
03:11:21,240 --> 03:11:23,320
Speaker 8: Williams and Mike Rabel and let them develop them and

4328
03:11:23,360 --> 03:11:24,119
Speaker 8: see what happens.

4329
03:11:24,360 --> 03:11:26,320
Speaker 4: Dan and Boston says, tell Paul to get off his

4330
03:11:26,400 --> 03:11:29,560
Speaker 4: high horse with his crimson, Chris Sims. Take Paul's the

4331
03:11:29,600 --> 03:11:32,280
Speaker 4: guy who's most dismissive of other people's opinions, but in

4332
03:11:32,320 --> 03:11:34,640
Speaker 4: this case he's on Chris sims side because he's so

4333
03:11:34,760 --> 03:11:36,640
Speaker 4: enlightened and everyone else is stupid.

4334
03:11:36,720 --> 03:11:38,520
Speaker 5: Chris Sims loves Kyle Williams, so you hate him.

4335
03:11:38,600 --> 03:11:40,520
Speaker 4: The only reason I hate him on that because he

4336
03:11:40,720 --> 03:11:43,160
Speaker 4: likes to be the contrarian. Good job, Paul, you went.

4337
03:11:43,640 --> 03:11:46,080
Speaker 8: So Jalen Knowle is going to the Texas Shy.

4338
03:11:47,240 --> 03:11:48,120
Speaker 1: I like that for them.

4339
03:11:48,280 --> 03:11:49,760
Speaker 5: Take you a little binkie and go home.

4340
03:11:49,800 --> 03:11:51,840
Speaker 1: But again, isn't it funny do you feel like Nickosaria

4341
03:11:51,920 --> 03:11:53,280
Speaker 1: had a heel turner and he was like, I don't know,

4342
03:11:53,320 --> 03:11:54,680
Speaker 1: we got draft wide receivers, like we.

4343
03:11:54,680 --> 03:11:57,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, well they drafted both Iowa state wide receivers.

4344
03:11:57,480 --> 03:12:00,000
Speaker 5: I actually don't love this because I like, they just

4345
03:12:00,080 --> 03:12:02,360
Speaker 5: signed Christian Kirk. He's Christian Kirk.

4346
03:12:02,680 --> 03:12:05,000
Speaker 4: That's true, Jalen Noel.

4347
03:12:05,160 --> 03:12:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't even put Christian Kirk on the ground.

4348
03:12:07,760 --> 03:12:09,279
Speaker 5: Look, he just got bumped off the graphic.

4349
03:12:09,360 --> 03:12:12,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, well he got Christian. Christian Kirk's kind of running

4350
03:12:12,720 --> 03:12:16,279
Speaker 8: out of steam at Christian Kirk's best football is behind him, probably.

4351
03:12:15,920 --> 03:12:17,960
Speaker 1: And Tanked Eli probably out for the year.

4352
03:12:18,080 --> 03:12:21,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, Tanked's probably out for the year. And maybe you

4353
03:12:21,000 --> 03:12:23,360
Speaker 8: don't know long term at all what's going to happen.

4354
03:12:23,400 --> 03:12:26,760
Speaker 5: And just to clarify the whole Chris Sims thing, I

4355
03:12:26,879 --> 03:12:30,039
Speaker 5: disagree with him. I think that Mike Rabel thinks that

4356
03:12:30,080 --> 03:12:33,880
Speaker 5: he can play tackle. I just don't dismiss people's opinions

4357
03:12:33,879 --> 03:12:36,880
Speaker 5: that are different than mine, that's all. You don't I don't.

4358
03:12:37,280 --> 03:12:39,360
Speaker 5: I don't agree with them, and I'm not afraid to

4359
03:12:39,400 --> 03:12:40,199
Speaker 5: tell you that I don't.

4360
03:12:40,000 --> 03:12:42,039
Speaker 4: Agree with Oh that's okay, then that dismissing it.

4361
03:12:42,280 --> 03:12:45,440
Speaker 5: No, no No, doesn't because I'm not telling you I'm right.

4362
03:12:45,600 --> 03:12:50,240
Speaker 5: I thought Vernon Golston was like a unbelievable people Chris Sims.

4363
03:12:50,240 --> 03:12:52,320
Speaker 4: Are they dismissing him or not agreeing with no?

4364
03:12:52,520 --> 03:12:54,600
Speaker 5: Like I got so mad I had to turn it off?

4365
03:12:55,280 --> 03:12:57,760
Speaker 5: Why because he said something I didn't agree right?

4366
03:12:58,000 --> 03:12:59,560
Speaker 4: Well, why would you get mad and turn it off

4367
03:12:59,600 --> 03:13:01,640
Speaker 4: if you agree with him? Of course he disagreed with.

4368
03:13:01,720 --> 03:13:04,040
Speaker 5: Him, But you're turning it off like you're not going

4369
03:13:04,080 --> 03:13:05,720
Speaker 5: to get Why Why wouldn't you turn it off if

4370
03:13:05,760 --> 03:13:07,520
Speaker 5: you disagree with him? That Kyle Williams is a really

4371
03:13:07,520 --> 03:13:11,959
Speaker 5: good prospect because he's he's saying something good about your guy.

4372
03:13:12,040 --> 03:13:15,359
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's that's what that's that's my only point.

4373
03:13:15,200 --> 03:13:16,440
Speaker 4: With the guy. Why are you getting mad?

4374
03:13:16,680 --> 03:13:18,640
Speaker 5: But what if you disagree with him? But it's but

4375
03:13:18,680 --> 03:13:21,000
Speaker 5: it's positive for your t if you're not going to

4376
03:13:21,040 --> 03:13:23,360
Speaker 5: get mad about it. Oh well, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe

4377
03:13:23,440 --> 03:13:25,240
Speaker 5: Kyle Williams really is good. I didn't like him, but

4378
03:13:25,320 --> 03:13:27,440
Speaker 5: Chris Sen's likes him and the Patriots picked him.

4379
03:13:27,440 --> 03:13:28,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, I see what you're saying.

4380
03:13:29,000 --> 03:13:31,040
Speaker 5: That's you know, that's how you form your opinions.

4381
03:13:31,400 --> 03:13:34,360
Speaker 1: Okay, you people, you guys have somebody who's on first.

4382
03:13:34,400 --> 03:13:37,600
Speaker 1: That's how your opinion.

4383
03:13:38,840 --> 03:13:41,959
Speaker 8: You know, you know that it's ten to fifteen on

4384
03:13:42,080 --> 03:13:43,320
Speaker 8: day two because we're getting.

4385
03:13:43,320 --> 03:13:46,080
Speaker 5: It's not it's not that's what. That's how you people

4386
03:13:46,560 --> 03:13:49,800
Speaker 5: your opinions. They said something beautiful the guy we drafted.

4387
03:13:50,080 --> 03:13:53,480
Speaker 4: Are they good player? Are they Jets having a good draft?

4388
03:13:54,160 --> 03:13:55,000
Speaker 1: Haven't all right draft?

4389
03:13:55,040 --> 03:13:55,200
Speaker 8: Yeah?

4390
03:13:55,240 --> 03:13:55,520
Speaker 4: All right?

4391
03:13:55,560 --> 03:13:58,360
Speaker 5: But I think Houston is having a memb draft. But

4392
03:13:58,440 --> 03:14:00,360
Speaker 5: I think the Patriots have a Jets I think you

4393
03:14:00,360 --> 03:14:01,119
Speaker 5: said Houston.

4394
03:14:00,959 --> 03:14:02,320
Speaker 4: I said the Jets down.

4395
03:14:02,520 --> 03:14:06,640
Speaker 5: They got Membo, Membo and Mason Mason.

4396
03:14:06,320 --> 03:14:10,680
Speaker 8: Taylor, Taylor and as acause Kentucky Pos helped me cope

4397
03:14:10,720 --> 03:14:12,920
Speaker 8: with this Jets draft feels like it's wicked good.

4398
03:14:12,959 --> 03:14:17,360
Speaker 4: I'm worried. Break it down for me, please, Really it's wicked, wicked.

4399
03:14:17,760 --> 03:14:18,480
Speaker 5: It's a good draft.

4400
03:14:18,520 --> 03:14:21,720
Speaker 8: But if Justin Fields can play, they'll be they'll be Yeah, no,

4401
03:14:22,200 --> 03:14:25,600
Speaker 8: they they've they've picked good players. I mean, we'll see.

4402
03:14:25,720 --> 03:14:27,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't like it doesn't bother me.

4403
03:14:28,040 --> 03:14:30,600
Speaker 7: Like sometimes when I feel like the Ravens do it

4404
03:14:30,640 --> 03:14:32,280
Speaker 7: all the time, Ravens draft a bunch of my guys,

4405
03:14:32,360 --> 03:14:32,920
Speaker 7: it bothers me.

4406
03:14:33,680 --> 03:14:35,560
Speaker 5: If Justin Fields can't play, it won't matter.

4407
03:14:35,720 --> 03:14:38,680
Speaker 1: Right, that's I mean. And if he makeson Taylor great

4408
03:14:38,760 --> 03:14:40,440
Speaker 1: great stats hasn't really ever lived up to.

4409
03:14:40,520 --> 03:14:43,160
Speaker 5: What he But this is Fred's theory on defense. I

4410
03:14:43,240 --> 03:14:45,640
Speaker 5: think the Jets have the pieces to have a good defense.

4411
03:14:45,720 --> 03:14:48,360
Speaker 5: They seem like they're always flaming out and playing terrible

4412
03:14:48,400 --> 03:14:50,080
Speaker 5: defense by the middle of the year because they never

4413
03:14:50,120 --> 03:14:53,600
Speaker 5: get any support from their offense. If Justin Fields can

4414
03:14:53,640 --> 03:14:57,680
Speaker 5: play with Bryce Hall and Garrett Wilson and now Mason Taylor,

4415
03:14:57,840 --> 03:14:59,640
Speaker 5: and you know, they've got a few pieces in place,

4416
03:15:01,160 --> 03:15:04,920
Speaker 5: maybe they can be Okay, Dylan Fair, they have a

4417
03:15:04,959 --> 03:15:07,000
Speaker 5: good offensive line interior.

4418
03:15:07,560 --> 03:15:08,879
Speaker 4: Rio's in Texas. What's up?

4419
03:15:08,959 --> 03:15:09,160
Speaker 5: Rio?

4420
03:15:11,440 --> 03:15:12,920
Speaker 16: And good evening, gentlemen.

4421
03:15:12,920 --> 03:15:13,800
Speaker 4: How you doing good?

4422
03:15:14,040 --> 03:15:14,280
Speaker 10: Great?

4423
03:15:16,800 --> 03:15:17,879
Speaker 16: I just kind of want to take a little bit

4424
03:15:17,920 --> 03:15:21,840
Speaker 16: of a victory lap and offer a bit of constructive

4425
03:15:21,879 --> 03:15:25,680
Speaker 16: criticism for Evan Okay, on the victory lap. First time

4426
03:15:25,760 --> 03:15:28,960
Speaker 16: I called in to catch twenty two is to discuss

4427
03:15:29,040 --> 03:15:32,560
Speaker 16: Kyle Williams absolutely loved that pick. I'm gonna declare here

4428
03:15:32,720 --> 03:15:35,800
Speaker 16: now they broke the wide receiver curse. This guy is

4429
03:15:35,840 --> 03:15:39,920
Speaker 16: gonna play. It's gonna be good. Okay, I know barth Is,

4430
03:15:40,080 --> 03:15:41,760
Speaker 16: you know on Cloud nine, Ron.

4431
03:15:41,680 --> 03:15:43,440
Speaker 4: I'm not mad at you because I agree with you.

4432
03:15:45,120 --> 03:15:45,840
Speaker 5: You and Dave in the.

4433
03:15:45,800 --> 03:15:51,520
Speaker 16: Philippines, right, well, I would hope not. But on that topic,

4434
03:15:51,680 --> 03:15:56,400
Speaker 16: that was my criticism for Evan. And again I have zero,

4435
03:15:56,920 --> 03:15:59,400
Speaker 16: zero problem with Evan's steaks. I think he's really good

4436
03:15:59,400 --> 03:16:02,440
Speaker 16: at what he does, but he does tend to come

4437
03:16:02,480 --> 03:16:05,119
Speaker 16: across a little bit dismissive when somebody brings up something

4438
03:16:05,200 --> 03:16:06,480
Speaker 16: that he's not on board with.

4439
03:16:08,360 --> 03:16:11,080
Speaker 5: I called you that's why he got mad at the take.

4440
03:16:13,200 --> 03:16:14,720
Speaker 16: That because Chris Sims is a douche.

4441
03:16:17,800 --> 03:16:18,760
Speaker 10: I hate there.

4442
03:16:18,800 --> 03:16:19,000
Speaker 4: You go.

4443
03:16:19,640 --> 03:16:21,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I don't agree with other people.

4444
03:16:21,840 --> 03:16:23,720
Speaker 5: I do like all the Texas guys that het Chris

4445
03:16:23,760 --> 03:16:26,120
Speaker 5: Sims because which what do they hold against it? What

4446
03:16:26,160 --> 03:16:31,240
Speaker 5: did he? And he was entitled, yeah, I get it.

4447
03:16:32,680 --> 03:16:32,920
Speaker 10: Yeah.

4448
03:16:33,080 --> 03:16:33,120
Speaker 23: No.

4449
03:16:34,280 --> 03:16:36,360
Speaker 16: Aside from that, though, I called you guys last night

4450
03:16:36,400 --> 03:16:38,600
Speaker 16: and I listed off some players as my top players

4451
03:16:38,600 --> 03:16:43,440
Speaker 16: at the top a round two Carson Schweesinger that you

4452
03:16:43,480 --> 03:16:46,320
Speaker 16: guys didn't actually say anything about. He went at the top.

4453
03:16:47,400 --> 03:16:50,800
Speaker 16: Dan Higgins was my favorite X in this draft. Kyle

4454
03:16:50,840 --> 03:16:53,800
Speaker 16: Williams is my favorite receiver, but specifically for the X,

4455
03:16:53,879 --> 03:16:57,560
Speaker 16: I like Higgins. But then I brought up Nick em

4456
03:16:57,640 --> 03:17:00,800
Speaker 16: and Morey and Evan looked like, you know, somebody shot.

4457
03:17:00,600 --> 03:17:06,080
Speaker 8: His dog and don't talk about my dog, not well.

4458
03:17:06,240 --> 03:17:10,600
Speaker 16: Your imaginary dog. And you know that was Yeah, that

4459
03:17:10,720 --> 03:17:11,920
Speaker 16: was That was the sort of thing where you know,

4460
03:17:12,000 --> 03:17:13,720
Speaker 16: I think for about the third or fourth time you said,

4461
03:17:13,720 --> 03:17:15,680
Speaker 16: well I'm not picking on Rio, well a little bit

4462
03:17:15,760 --> 03:17:18,720
Speaker 16: you were. So I'll take that big by leap when

4463
03:17:18,760 --> 03:17:22,440
Speaker 16: he's making you know, splash play after splash play in Seattle, okay,

4464
03:17:22,560 --> 03:17:27,040
Speaker 16: but to to kind of take off, take way off

4465
03:17:27,080 --> 03:17:31,240
Speaker 16: of that, I still think I'll agree with Deuce that one.

4466
03:17:31,920 --> 03:17:36,240
Speaker 16: They need an edge like that's They've got some temporary

4467
03:17:36,280 --> 03:17:39,440
Speaker 16: pieces there now, but they need somebody long term to develop.

4468
03:17:39,680 --> 03:17:42,560
Speaker 16: But I think there's another position where that's really true.

4469
03:17:42,760 --> 03:17:44,520
Speaker 16: And I've brought it up a bunch of times and

4470
03:17:44,600 --> 03:17:47,520
Speaker 16: I haven't really seen anybody addressing in. It's a safety position.

4471
03:17:48,280 --> 03:17:51,080
Speaker 16: To me, they've got two box safeties. And I think

4472
03:17:51,160 --> 03:17:53,840
Speaker 16: Douger is done, Like I just don't think he's coming

4473
03:17:53,879 --> 03:17:57,000
Speaker 16: back from that injury. I think his brain's broken, honestly,

4474
03:17:57,000 --> 03:17:59,320
Speaker 16: the way I saw him play last year. What do

4475
03:17:59,360 --> 03:18:01,280
Speaker 16: you guys think of Xavier Watts?

4476
03:18:01,640 --> 03:18:02,400
Speaker 10: I have never dame.

4477
03:18:02,640 --> 03:18:05,240
Speaker 16: I think you know, he's poor opposite of them and

4478
03:18:05,280 --> 03:18:06,800
Speaker 16: Worry But you know, I think he's the kind of

4479
03:18:06,840 --> 03:18:08,039
Speaker 16: guy that might have feeled a rabel.

4480
03:18:08,360 --> 03:18:10,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just talked about him a little bit.

4481
03:18:10,920 --> 03:18:13,720
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, thanks for real and honestly real. We we

4482
03:18:13,920 --> 03:18:16,480
Speaker 8: actually agree on more players than you think. We like

4483
03:18:16,520 --> 03:18:18,680
Speaker 8: a lot of the same players, just not not Am

4484
03:18:18,720 --> 03:18:20,879
Speaker 8: and Worry who I've argued with this one about too,

4485
03:18:21,000 --> 03:18:22,240
Speaker 8: So it's not like this one.

4486
03:18:23,120 --> 03:18:26,240
Speaker 5: This one so I hate I can't listen to him

4487
03:18:26,240 --> 03:18:27,800
Speaker 5: anymore because he he disagrees with me.

4488
03:18:28,080 --> 03:18:30,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it's okay. I agree with the caller. He's

4489
03:18:30,760 --> 03:18:32,959
Speaker 8: one hundred percent right. Like if we have a disagreement

4490
03:18:33,000 --> 03:18:35,040
Speaker 8: on a player, I'm not going to agree with you,

4491
03:18:35,400 --> 03:18:38,640
Speaker 8: like I'm going to disagree. I'm gonna stick to my guns.

4492
03:18:38,800 --> 03:18:41,520
Speaker 8: I don't think he's a good I didn't like him,

4493
03:18:41,680 --> 03:18:43,440
Speaker 8: didn't didn't like the tape. What can I say?

4494
03:18:43,760 --> 03:18:45,120
Speaker 5: I don't need to take it, and I don't need

4495
03:18:45,160 --> 03:18:47,920
Speaker 5: you to take a victory lap either, if you're right, Well,

4496
03:18:48,040 --> 03:18:50,400
Speaker 5: if anybody should take a victory lap on Kyle Williams,

4497
03:18:50,480 --> 03:18:50,840
Speaker 5: it's Bart.

4498
03:18:50,879 --> 03:18:52,960
Speaker 8: I mean, Bart told me about Kyle Williams a year ago.

4499
03:18:53,200 --> 03:18:55,160
Speaker 8: So like, if anybody's going to take a victory lap

4500
03:18:55,240 --> 03:18:55,480
Speaker 8: on him.

4501
03:18:55,520 --> 03:18:56,000
Speaker 5: It's real.

4502
03:18:56,320 --> 03:18:57,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's it.

4503
03:18:57,760 --> 03:19:03,040
Speaker 4: Willson, k cod Hey, will Hey, how are you?

4504
03:19:03,280 --> 03:19:05,040
Speaker 9: I know it's been a long night. Thank you for

4505
03:19:05,120 --> 03:19:05,640
Speaker 9: the hard work.

4506
03:19:07,560 --> 03:19:11,320
Speaker 32: First of all, you know, I'm very happy with the

4507
03:19:11,400 --> 03:19:13,680
Speaker 32: Kyle Williams pick. I'm still con get some speed and

4508
03:19:13,920 --> 03:19:16,879
Speaker 32: I like Henderson too. For sake of argument, with Dylan

4509
03:19:16,959 --> 03:19:19,160
Speaker 32: Sampson still being on the board, would you have preferred

4510
03:19:19,160 --> 03:19:21,920
Speaker 32: getting Burdened and Sampson? I mean, I might have, but

4511
03:19:22,040 --> 03:19:23,080
Speaker 32: I'm fine with this as well.

4512
03:19:23,560 --> 03:19:25,560
Speaker 13: And I was wondering if you got songs.

4513
03:19:25,320 --> 03:19:28,240
Speaker 32: That Steve Smith Senior compared Kyle Williamston himself. I thought

4514
03:19:28,280 --> 03:19:32,480
Speaker 32: that was pretty high praise. And I still like a

4515
03:19:32,520 --> 03:19:34,480
Speaker 32: lot of players that are available. I know Paul was

4516
03:19:34,520 --> 03:19:36,480
Speaker 32: a little you know, he didn't.

4517
03:19:36,240 --> 03:19:38,160
Speaker 24: Really like the edges that are still there.

4518
03:19:38,200 --> 03:19:41,680
Speaker 32: But I like Jasiah Stewart, I like Mila mc guard

4519
03:19:41,760 --> 03:19:43,480
Speaker 32: I think that's some good players to get here at

4520
03:19:43,480 --> 03:19:43,880
Speaker 32: eighty five.

4521
03:19:44,160 --> 03:19:46,880
Speaker 5: Okay, you guys to get the other line.

4522
03:19:47,000 --> 03:19:51,960
Speaker 8: Winston, yeah, Winston, Yeah, he's a he was a fun study.

4523
03:19:52,120 --> 03:19:56,520
Speaker 8: He's got hurt, but he was gonna be a higher pick.

4524
03:19:56,560 --> 03:19:58,800
Speaker 8: I think if he didn't get hurt, but he.

4525
03:19:58,840 --> 03:20:02,440
Speaker 1: Had that Jalen Walker presence vibes. Just this guy's a dude, and.

4526
03:20:02,560 --> 03:20:08,960
Speaker 8: He's super athletic too, and just really fluid, loose mover

4527
03:20:09,560 --> 03:20:11,680
Speaker 8: in space. Like I really liked what I saw out

4528
03:20:11,720 --> 03:20:14,280
Speaker 8: of him if he didn't get hurt. But he played

4529
03:20:14,320 --> 03:20:16,760
Speaker 8: like three games last year and then then got hurt.

4530
03:20:16,920 --> 03:20:20,120
Speaker 8: So who is the player? He said, I'm sorry, I

4531
03:20:21,200 --> 03:20:21,840
Speaker 8: totally forgot.

4532
03:20:22,240 --> 03:20:25,280
Speaker 5: And there's still going to be more good players taken.

4533
03:20:25,600 --> 03:20:29,720
Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, like just just just to stay like,

4534
03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:33,119
Speaker 5: there will be guys taken, you know, in the next

4535
03:20:33,160 --> 03:20:35,160
Speaker 5: one hundred picks that will be good players in the NFL.

4536
03:20:35,760 --> 03:20:36,440
Speaker 8: Are you sure?

4537
03:20:37,040 --> 03:20:37,800
Speaker 5: I am pretty sure.

4538
03:20:37,959 --> 03:20:40,680
Speaker 4: Show from the Darkness. The way everyone talks about Kyle

4539
03:20:40,720 --> 03:20:43,720
Speaker 4: Williams sounds like a first round pick. What's the catch?

4540
03:20:43,840 --> 03:20:45,160
Speaker 4: Why is he a third round guy?

4541
03:20:45,720 --> 03:20:49,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, so's older player. He's twenty three, you know, six

4542
03:20:49,560 --> 03:20:53,360
Speaker 8: year player in college, so that that definitely hurt him.

4543
03:20:54,120 --> 03:20:56,400
Speaker 8: He is not the biggest guy. I would agree with

4544
03:20:56,480 --> 03:20:58,600
Speaker 8: that as well. You know, probably not going to be

4545
03:20:58,680 --> 03:21:02,120
Speaker 8: a full time X or outside receivers, probably more of

4546
03:21:02,160 --> 03:21:06,160
Speaker 8: a zero move receiver at the next level. I would

4547
03:21:06,200 --> 03:21:09,360
Speaker 8: say age position, you know, flex would probably be the

4548
03:21:09,400 --> 03:21:10,279
Speaker 8: two biggest.

4549
03:21:09,959 --> 03:21:12,880
Speaker 1: Things, no special teams something, Yeah in the beast.

4550
03:21:13,120 --> 03:21:16,359
Speaker 8: Yeah, there was like he's a great separator. I wouldn't

4551
03:21:16,360 --> 03:21:19,040
Speaker 8: say he's a great route runner, Like he's not a technician.

4552
03:21:19,200 --> 03:21:22,880
Speaker 8: He's just got great burst and suddenness and separation ability.

4553
03:21:23,600 --> 03:21:25,680
Speaker 8: So there were some drifting on some of his routes

4554
03:21:25,680 --> 03:21:27,960
Speaker 8: I saw on tape, especially you know, coming across the

4555
03:21:28,000 --> 03:21:29,880
Speaker 8: middle of the field, Like things will have to clean

4556
03:21:29,959 --> 03:21:32,119
Speaker 8: up in terms of his route running. But he's got

4557
03:21:32,240 --> 03:21:35,920
Speaker 8: great natural separation skills to him. So I'd rather do

4558
03:21:36,080 --> 03:21:38,680
Speaker 8: that I have to fix that, then have to fix

4559
03:21:39,200 --> 03:21:41,600
Speaker 8: well he's running a four five five, you know, so.

4560
03:21:41,959 --> 03:21:46,359
Speaker 4: Kendall in San Diego, Stefan Diggs, Kyle Williams on the outside,

4561
03:21:46,560 --> 03:21:50,080
Speaker 4: the Mario Douglas in the slot. How's the offense looking now?

4562
03:21:51,840 --> 03:21:52,400
Speaker 4: What do you think?

4563
03:21:52,959 --> 03:21:53,960
Speaker 8: Feel much better about it?

4564
03:21:54,080 --> 03:21:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

4565
03:21:54,640 --> 03:21:56,040
Speaker 8: I mean I think it comes back to the thing

4566
03:21:56,080 --> 03:21:58,760
Speaker 8: that Paul keeps saying, like, at this point, you have enough,

4567
03:21:59,200 --> 03:22:01,760
Speaker 8: you have enough, you know, toys to play with, but

4568
03:22:02,320 --> 03:22:05,680
Speaker 8: it's that next step for Drake May. Like, if Drake

4569
03:22:05,760 --> 03:22:08,080
Speaker 8: May takes the next step with the pieces that they've added,

4570
03:22:08,160 --> 03:22:10,000
Speaker 8: then they should be marketably better.

4571
03:22:10,320 --> 03:22:10,920
Speaker 1: That's connected.

4572
03:22:11,280 --> 03:22:13,480
Speaker 5: That's a Patriots running I mean, that's a Pittsburgh running

4573
03:22:13,520 --> 03:22:14,480
Speaker 5: back Johnson.

4574
03:22:14,560 --> 03:22:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's squaring Iowa in colors. But shoot, I

4575
03:22:18,560 --> 03:22:19,760
Speaker 1: just forgot what I was going to say.

4576
03:22:21,000 --> 03:22:21,680
Speaker 5: It's my fault.

4577
03:22:21,800 --> 03:22:23,360
Speaker 1: What did you say, Evan, What were you talking about?

4578
03:22:23,400 --> 03:22:24,879
Speaker 8: I said, toys to Drake May?

4579
03:22:25,000 --> 03:22:26,000
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, yeah, I said.

4580
03:22:26,040 --> 03:22:27,600
Speaker 7: It goes back to I think, which is Paul said

4581
03:22:27,600 --> 03:22:29,959
Speaker 7: about the Jets, like, if Justin Fields can play, that'll

4582
03:22:29,959 --> 03:22:31,880
Speaker 7: be pretty good. If Drake May takes a step this year,

4583
03:22:32,160 --> 03:22:34,840
Speaker 7: cuts down on the turnovers in clutch time, he's making

4584
03:22:35,000 --> 03:22:37,520
Speaker 7: plays to win games, then they're going to be good.

4585
03:22:38,280 --> 03:22:41,040
Speaker 4: Uh, Anthony Seattle, I'm watching you guys on TV following

4586
03:22:41,120 --> 03:22:43,480
Speaker 4: along Anyway, I just want to say how pumped I

4587
03:22:43,600 --> 03:22:47,040
Speaker 4: am that we're addressing needs with name brand players. No

4588
03:22:47,160 --> 03:22:50,000
Speaker 4: head scratchers, no trying to be smarter than everyone else.

4589
03:22:50,480 --> 03:22:53,440
Speaker 4: Thirteen points per game, can't protect that quarterback. We went

4590
03:22:53,600 --> 03:22:57,800
Speaker 4: protection explosion, explosion. It's officially a new regime.

4591
03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:03,280
Speaker 8: So Patriots traded down again, yep, So we're never getting

4592
03:23:03,280 --> 03:23:04,960
Speaker 8: off the air. It seems like they're still in the

4593
03:23:05,000 --> 03:23:08,400
Speaker 8: third round though, based off of that, but Kansas City

4594
03:23:08,560 --> 03:23:10,800
Speaker 8: is now on the clock at eighty five. They have

4595
03:23:10,920 --> 03:23:12,800
Speaker 8: made a trade with the Patriots, and the Patriots have

4596
03:23:12,879 --> 03:23:17,039
Speaker 8: traded down. I'm wait there though, I'm trying to figure out.

4597
03:23:17,040 --> 03:23:17,920
Speaker 4: And filled in yet.

4598
03:23:18,120 --> 03:23:18,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's.

4599
03:23:22,600 --> 03:23:26,200
Speaker 8: Rights wherever the Chiefs were in the third round very five.

4600
03:23:26,240 --> 03:23:27,680
Speaker 5: I mean I think that that's.

4601
03:23:27,600 --> 03:23:30,160
Speaker 33: Where they are, but I'm positive we are at ninety five.

4602
03:23:30,280 --> 03:23:33,640
Speaker 33: Now ninety five it is okay, Well we're doing a marathon.

4603
03:23:34,240 --> 03:23:36,720
Speaker 33: And they bucks took Jacob Parrish as a player. I

4604
03:23:36,840 --> 03:23:40,200
Speaker 33: really liked to play the nickel for the Patriots, So

4605
03:23:40,840 --> 03:23:44,680
Speaker 33: good pick by Tampa. The Guka picked by Tampa was

4606
03:23:44,760 --> 03:23:47,240
Speaker 33: kind of weird to me, like they they just paid

4607
03:23:47,320 --> 03:23:51,320
Speaker 33: Chris Godwin and now they have redundant Chris Godwin because.

4608
03:23:51,080 --> 03:23:55,000
Speaker 5: I really like Jalen McMillan. Yeah, they had two older receivers,

4609
03:23:55,040 --> 03:23:57,200
Speaker 5: a good young receiver, they get a good time, you know,

4610
03:23:57,360 --> 03:23:59,440
Speaker 5: decent tight end, yeah, Kate Auton.

4611
03:23:59,680 --> 03:24:02,119
Speaker 8: So I actually really like this trade of the Patriots

4612
03:24:02,240 --> 03:24:05,199
Speaker 8: just made. Uh they actually added a pick in twenty

4613
03:24:05,240 --> 03:24:05,800
Speaker 8: twenty six.

4614
03:24:06,000 --> 03:24:07,560
Speaker 1: Hey, what do we got?

4615
03:24:07,760 --> 03:24:10,640
Speaker 8: So the Patriots have moved back ten spots to ninety

4616
03:24:10,680 --> 03:24:14,320
Speaker 8: five overall and added a twenty twenty six fourth round

4617
03:24:14,400 --> 03:24:17,520
Speaker 8: pick from Kansas City. So they added a fourth round

4618
03:24:17,520 --> 03:24:21,080
Speaker 8: pick next year to this trade, so I actually kind

4619
03:24:21,120 --> 03:24:21,360
Speaker 8: of like.

4620
03:24:21,400 --> 03:24:24,480
Speaker 4: That fourth So it was it was that a third

4621
03:24:24,560 --> 03:24:26,640
Speaker 4: this year paul or pickswap and then they got a

4622
03:24:26,720 --> 03:24:30,240
Speaker 4: fourth round I believe. So. Yes, so they got nothing

4623
03:24:30,320 --> 03:24:31,320
Speaker 4: extra this year for it.

4624
03:24:31,520 --> 03:24:34,240
Speaker 8: They did not. They got a twenty twenty foururth round pick,

4625
03:24:34,680 --> 03:24:35,840
Speaker 8: so they probably would have gotten a.

4626
03:24:35,959 --> 03:24:38,000
Speaker 5: They probably would have been a third round pick next year.

4627
03:24:38,080 --> 03:24:40,039
Speaker 8: Well, they would have gotten a fifth round pick this year.

4628
03:24:40,360 --> 03:24:43,560
Speaker 8: So they got a fourth round pick next year. Oh wow,

4629
03:24:43,720 --> 03:24:45,760
Speaker 8: so they actually that's actually pretty good value. What do

4630
03:24:45,800 --> 03:24:46,280
Speaker 8: you think about it?

4631
03:24:46,959 --> 03:24:51,480
Speaker 5: I guess Yeah, Evans having a good weekend selling me

4632
03:24:51,560 --> 03:24:54,119
Speaker 5: on stuff, and I'm really tired, so I'm just gonna

4633
03:24:54,120 --> 03:24:54,480
Speaker 5: go with this.

4634
03:24:54,840 --> 03:24:59,840
Speaker 8: But the pick in the year ahead, Yeah, usually.

4635
03:24:59,680 --> 03:25:03,640
Speaker 5: You get an extra round the other way. Yeah, didn't

4636
03:25:03,640 --> 03:25:04,320
Speaker 5: it go the other way?

4637
03:25:04,879 --> 03:25:06,640
Speaker 4: He's saying. He's saying, to drop.

4638
03:25:06,480 --> 03:25:08,160
Speaker 5: Down ten spots, it would have caught you a fifth

4639
03:25:08,280 --> 03:25:10,560
Speaker 5: round pick, is what you're saying. So instead of that,

4640
03:25:10,680 --> 03:25:12,360
Speaker 5: they got a fourth thron pick next year. That's what

4641
03:25:12,440 --> 03:25:14,480
Speaker 5: I said. He's doing a good job selling me and stuff. Okay,

4642
03:25:16,040 --> 03:25:17,640
Speaker 5: I gave him credit. You explained it to me in

4643
03:25:17,720 --> 03:25:18,760
Speaker 5: like fifteen seconds.

4644
03:25:19,040 --> 03:25:21,320
Speaker 1: See now I'm too tired to do these things.

4645
03:25:22,360 --> 03:25:24,520
Speaker 4: Let's go to Florida. Daves there, what's up, Dave?

4646
03:25:26,280 --> 03:25:27,160
Speaker 24: Hey, guys, what's it going?

4647
03:25:27,560 --> 03:25:27,720
Speaker 4: Hey?

4648
03:25:29,760 --> 03:25:30,400
Speaker 9: I got a question.

4649
03:25:30,480 --> 03:25:32,480
Speaker 24: Am I living in the twilight zone? Because this might

4650
03:25:32,560 --> 03:25:36,720
Speaker 24: be the happiest draft Patriots Unfiltered I've ever tuned into.

4651
03:25:36,840 --> 03:25:40,320
Speaker 24: And I'm actually happy myself. This is very streme feeling

4652
03:25:40,760 --> 03:25:41,560
Speaker 24: for the last five.

4653
03:25:41,680 --> 03:25:43,920
Speaker 5: This is an old school Belichick draft for me. I

4654
03:25:44,040 --> 03:25:46,480
Speaker 5: haven't been happy like this since like the heyday.

4655
03:25:46,120 --> 03:25:48,600
Speaker 4: Of Fat lost his weight and he lost all his anger.

4656
03:25:48,840 --> 03:25:51,440
Speaker 5: So I haven't lost the anger. But I like this draft.

4657
03:25:52,760 --> 03:25:53,879
Speaker 5: I like this draft a lot.

4658
03:25:54,560 --> 03:25:57,800
Speaker 24: I mean when you also add real quick yeah, I

4659
03:25:57,879 --> 03:25:59,960
Speaker 24: got to disagree with Mike real quick on. I feel

4660
03:26:00,200 --> 03:26:01,880
Speaker 24: the field to play as well for the Jets. The

4661
03:26:01,920 --> 03:26:03,800
Speaker 24: Jets will be good, Fred, You'll be with me and

4662
03:26:03,840 --> 03:26:04,640
Speaker 24: Jets will never be good.

4663
03:26:05,200 --> 03:26:06,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, take it off here, fair enough.

4664
03:26:06,680 --> 03:26:07,400
Speaker 1: I'll take that, right.

4665
03:26:07,800 --> 03:26:09,360
Speaker 4: There's always something with them, that's right.

4666
03:26:09,440 --> 03:26:10,120
Speaker 1: I forgot about that.

4667
03:26:10,320 --> 03:26:12,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think when you pair this draft up

4668
03:26:12,879 --> 03:26:17,640
Speaker 4: with the addition of Mike Rabel, Josh McDaniels is back,

4669
03:26:18,879 --> 03:26:22,040
Speaker 4: all you know, new coaching staff. What they did in

4670
03:26:22,120 --> 03:26:27,880
Speaker 4: free agency, and now you know three people that on

4671
03:26:28,040 --> 03:26:30,640
Speaker 4: paper are going to help this offense. I think there's

4672
03:26:30,640 --> 03:26:31,960
Speaker 4: a lot to be excited about.

4673
03:26:32,600 --> 03:26:35,280
Speaker 7: I do two unfortunately, I don't know, but you can't

4674
03:26:35,320 --> 03:26:38,160
Speaker 7: be you know, no, no, but that's I mean, but

4675
03:26:38,280 --> 03:26:40,240
Speaker 7: those are long term needs, and you know, at this

4676
03:26:40,320 --> 03:26:42,400
Speaker 7: point you're just trying to say, like what makes sense

4677
03:26:42,480 --> 03:26:44,080
Speaker 7: to grab and that, you know, so it's not like,

4678
03:26:44,160 --> 03:26:45,960
Speaker 7: oh my god, the season hinges on if they get

4679
03:26:46,000 --> 03:26:48,520
Speaker 7: a third round defensive end. But I just say, I'm

4680
03:26:48,520 --> 03:26:50,680
Speaker 7: gonna give Paul a little credit right now, because I

4681
03:26:50,760 --> 03:26:51,400
Speaker 7: think last.

4682
03:26:51,280 --> 03:26:54,440
Speaker 8: Year I had a credit going around, yeah studying, Uh

4683
03:26:54,800 --> 03:26:55,560
Speaker 8: you know last.

4684
03:26:55,400 --> 03:26:56,600
Speaker 1: Year, I mean, he was right.

4685
03:26:56,680 --> 03:26:58,440
Speaker 7: They didn't really change the team, like the team that

4686
03:26:58,560 --> 03:27:02,680
Speaker 7: came back three twenty four essentially the same team.

4687
03:27:02,760 --> 03:27:04,240
Speaker 5: And it's two things from last year.

4688
03:27:04,280 --> 03:27:07,120
Speaker 7: And now I understand a little bit to some extent,

4689
03:27:07,160 --> 03:27:08,960
Speaker 7: which I think Paul would probably agree with, that you know,

4690
03:27:09,040 --> 03:27:10,600
Speaker 7: they had to keep some of those guys, like it

4691
03:27:10,680 --> 03:27:12,480
Speaker 7: makes sense to some of them, probably.

4692
03:27:12,240 --> 03:27:16,960
Speaker 5: Not Henry, Like I wasn't opposed to bringing any of

4693
03:27:17,040 --> 03:27:18,720
Speaker 5: them back, and then they just brought.

4694
03:27:18,560 --> 03:27:20,440
Speaker 1: All of them back, right, And so you know, they

4695
03:27:20,520 --> 03:27:22,000
Speaker 1: didn't really do that this year.

4696
03:27:22,120 --> 03:27:24,880
Speaker 7: They've changed the team, they've added some new elements, they've

4697
03:27:24,920 --> 03:27:27,520
Speaker 7: added some things that we don't know how it's gonna

4698
03:27:27,560 --> 03:27:28,560
Speaker 7: work out in a good way.

4699
03:27:28,560 --> 03:27:30,119
Speaker 1: You know, it's like you have some options.

4700
03:27:30,640 --> 03:27:31,200
Speaker 8: It's not like.

4701
03:27:31,360 --> 03:27:34,119
Speaker 7: Jesus God, please Kendrick Bourne come back and be healthy.

4702
03:27:34,200 --> 03:27:36,440
Speaker 7: Last year, you know, like that, you were so reliant

4703
03:27:36,480 --> 03:27:39,240
Speaker 7: on that, and now it's all right, Well, maybe it

4704
03:27:39,280 --> 03:27:41,400
Speaker 7: all clicks for Javon Baker. Maybe not, but then maybe

4705
03:27:41,480 --> 03:27:43,120
Speaker 7: Kyle Williams, maybe he pops up.

4706
03:27:43,240 --> 03:27:45,560
Speaker 5: Instead of going into a season having to rely on

4707
03:27:45,720 --> 03:27:48,480
Speaker 5: one of those things happening, well, no, I'm probably gonna

4708
03:27:48,520 --> 03:27:53,200
Speaker 5: rely on having Stefan Diggs and Kyle Williams to go

4709
03:27:53,360 --> 03:27:56,640
Speaker 5: with the Mario Douglas as opposed to Javon Baker and

4710
03:27:56,720 --> 03:28:00,360
Speaker 5: Jalen Polk getting it. If they get it, great now

4711
03:28:00,400 --> 03:28:02,920
Speaker 5: I have a really strong wide receiver room.

4712
03:28:02,959 --> 03:28:04,440
Speaker 1: But all the pressures on them to do it and

4713
03:28:04,560 --> 03:28:05,119
Speaker 1: to prove.

4714
03:28:04,959 --> 03:28:06,320
Speaker 5: It and if not, they're going to go.

4715
03:28:07,120 --> 03:28:09,560
Speaker 4: And you know, Rabel said when he first got here,

4716
03:28:09,640 --> 03:28:14,320
Speaker 4: this team's gonna look really different in August, and we're like, okay,

4717
03:28:14,520 --> 03:28:15,480
Speaker 4: let's see and it.

4718
03:28:15,840 --> 03:28:18,400
Speaker 7: It will it will I mean, I mean, you guys

4719
03:28:18,440 --> 03:28:20,040
Speaker 7: are writing me and going back to you know, teasing

4720
03:28:20,040 --> 03:28:21,560
Speaker 7: me about the defense, like you're right, Like I mean

4721
03:28:21,600 --> 03:28:22,840
Speaker 7: they the defensive front.

4722
03:28:22,959 --> 03:28:25,039
Speaker 1: The front is going to be completely different.

4723
03:28:24,840 --> 03:28:27,320
Speaker 5: And it's not done here. That's why I keep saying,

4724
03:28:27,440 --> 03:28:31,560
Speaker 5: like I'm not gonna be like upset, and you know, say,

4725
03:28:31,760 --> 03:28:33,800
Speaker 5: forget about what I said about how good the draft is.

4726
03:28:33,879 --> 03:28:36,800
Speaker 5: If they start taking some defensive players. They need help

4727
03:28:36,920 --> 03:28:40,080
Speaker 5: there too. I just don't expect to fill all the holes.

4728
03:28:40,400 --> 03:28:42,560
Speaker 5: I think that they've only won eight games the last

4729
03:28:42,600 --> 03:28:46,240
Speaker 5: two years, and I think they have significant ground to

4730
03:28:46,360 --> 03:28:49,000
Speaker 5: make up. I think they've done a good job of

4731
03:28:49,120 --> 03:28:51,520
Speaker 5: starting to make up some of that ground. I don't

4732
03:28:51,520 --> 03:28:53,400
Speaker 5: think it's gonna be magic that they're gonna win ten

4733
03:28:53,480 --> 03:28:58,279
Speaker 5: games this year what like this, Like they have a coach,

4734
03:28:58,800 --> 03:29:00,800
Speaker 5: so all of a sudden, you know, you're not going

4735
03:29:00,879 --> 03:29:04,520
Speaker 5: to lose all these games. You probably are, but you're

4736
03:29:04,560 --> 03:29:12,200
Speaker 5: going to be much more poised to compete with the

4737
03:29:12,320 --> 03:29:14,840
Speaker 5: Milton Williams. You're going to see Houghton Davis, you know,

4738
03:29:15,160 --> 03:29:18,240
Speaker 5: and Roberts Spelaane's of the world as opposed to just

4739
03:29:18,360 --> 03:29:21,959
Speaker 5: running it back with you know, all the same cast

4740
03:29:22,040 --> 03:29:22,600
Speaker 5: of characters.

4741
03:29:22,680 --> 03:29:25,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, and then having really no depth once injuries struck

4742
03:29:25,320 --> 03:29:27,480
Speaker 7: the defense. I mean, I think that's what exposed them.

4743
03:29:28,000 --> 03:29:30,000
Speaker 5: Those are things you can and by the way, right

4744
03:29:30,080 --> 03:29:32,320
Speaker 5: now that's going to be an issue too because you've

4745
03:29:32,480 --> 03:29:36,560
Speaker 5: you've replaced players, but again when those players inevitably start

4746
03:29:36,640 --> 03:29:39,960
Speaker 5: to get banged up, you have to stack these kinds

4747
03:29:40,000 --> 03:29:40,560
Speaker 5: of classes.

4748
03:29:40,920 --> 03:29:43,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I mean, I just to get depth. Yeah,

4749
03:29:43,200 --> 03:29:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean the easiest way I say it right now

4750
03:29:45,240 --> 03:29:46,000
Speaker 1: is you have splane.

4751
03:29:46,040 --> 03:29:49,119
Speaker 7: But you also you know, went and got what's his name,

4752
03:29:49,200 --> 03:29:51,440
Speaker 7: Jack Gibbons as well, like another similar company. You know,

4753
03:29:52,040 --> 03:29:54,320
Speaker 7: you're building some depth, You're building in some options, and

4754
03:29:54,760 --> 03:29:57,560
Speaker 7: I think they've you can see like what direction they're going,

4755
03:29:57,600 --> 03:29:59,120
Speaker 7: They've got a style they they have.

4756
03:29:59,560 --> 03:30:00,760
Speaker 1: It's just I mean, I.

4757
03:30:00,720 --> 03:30:02,480
Speaker 7: Don't want to I don't want to crap on last year,

4758
03:30:02,560 --> 03:30:05,040
Speaker 7: but just this year, you really feel a sense of

4759
03:30:05,240 --> 03:30:06,000
Speaker 7: they lost their.

4760
03:30:05,959 --> 03:30:10,320
Speaker 4: North star last well, he's not here anymore.

4761
03:30:10,560 --> 03:30:14,200
Speaker 8: I just liked the process of what this this offseason has.

4762
03:30:14,520 --> 03:30:17,200
Speaker 8: The way that they've got about the offseason, I think

4763
03:30:17,240 --> 03:30:21,800
Speaker 8: it's been you know, they've targeted players that fit the

4764
03:30:21,879 --> 03:30:24,400
Speaker 8: style of play that they want to play, and they've

4765
03:30:24,480 --> 03:30:27,120
Speaker 8: targeted guys that were at the top of the market

4766
03:30:27,200 --> 03:30:29,400
Speaker 8: in free agency and they were able to actually actually

4767
03:30:29,480 --> 03:30:31,720
Speaker 8: able to sign some of those players and convince some

4768
03:30:31,800 --> 03:30:35,040
Speaker 8: of those guys to come to New England and be Patriots.

4769
03:30:35,080 --> 03:30:37,360
Speaker 8: And then here in the draft, I just think that

4770
03:30:37,480 --> 03:30:40,560
Speaker 8: they've they've played the value pretty well and all we

4771
03:30:40,640 --> 03:30:43,040
Speaker 8: can grate them on right now is the process. Like

4772
03:30:43,120 --> 03:30:45,840
Speaker 8: we'll see what happens with all these picks, you know,

4773
03:30:46,120 --> 03:30:47,920
Speaker 8: over the course of the next two to three years.

4774
03:30:48,040 --> 03:30:51,760
Speaker 8: But I said it earlier, like I feel like Kyle Williams,

4775
03:30:52,120 --> 03:30:54,120
Speaker 8: in other years, they would have picked them at thirty eight,

4776
03:30:54,440 --> 03:30:56,240
Speaker 8: like they would have reached on Kyle Williams, and they

4777
03:30:56,240 --> 03:30:58,760
Speaker 8: would pick them around earlier than they had to, you know,

4778
03:30:59,000 --> 03:31:01,920
Speaker 8: Jalen polk taikwon Thornton like they would have reached on

4779
03:31:02,040 --> 03:31:05,040
Speaker 8: the player. And this year they they've been they've been

4780
03:31:05,120 --> 03:31:07,480
Speaker 8: good at sticking true to the board. You know, Henderson

4781
03:31:07,640 --> 03:31:11,000
Speaker 8: was the best player available for most people at thirty eight,

4782
03:31:11,040 --> 03:31:13,879
Speaker 8: and they took the best player available at thirty eight.

4783
03:31:13,959 --> 03:31:18,120
Speaker 4: So they've traded down twice. Now, are in all fairness,

4784
03:31:18,200 --> 03:31:22,560
Speaker 4: are there players that they passed up during this trade

4785
03:31:22,600 --> 03:31:24,720
Speaker 4: down period that you're like, I wish they had taken.

4786
03:31:24,800 --> 03:31:27,680
Speaker 8: They look I mean, so let's see.

4787
03:31:30,560 --> 03:31:33,400
Speaker 7: Seventy seven Birch Noel yea, I already got a guy.

4788
03:31:33,480 --> 03:31:37,840
Speaker 7: Winston probably wasn't really a fit, yeah, I mean not really.

4789
03:31:38,320 --> 03:31:43,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was really princely Birch. Noel Waley, Fairchild, Kevin Winston,

4790
03:31:43,680 --> 03:31:47,280
Speaker 8: Caleb Johnson, Jacob Parrish, Noel Williams, and Jamari Caldwell have

4791
03:31:47,400 --> 03:31:49,640
Speaker 8: gone so far in this this stretch of picks from

4792
03:31:49,680 --> 03:31:52,520
Speaker 8: seventy seven to eighty five. Uh, Jacob Parrish was a

4793
03:31:52,520 --> 03:31:56,480
Speaker 8: player I really liked. And they were sitting there at

4794
03:31:56,520 --> 03:31:59,000
Speaker 8: eighty five and he went eighty four, and then they

4795
03:31:59,040 --> 03:32:02,440
Speaker 8: traded out of eighty five. So if you wanna maybe,

4796
03:32:02,720 --> 03:32:05,040
Speaker 8: if you want to kind of sit here and play

4797
03:32:05,120 --> 03:32:07,640
Speaker 8: that side of the fence, you know, was Jacob Parrish

4798
03:32:07,720 --> 03:32:10,640
Speaker 8: their guy, And when he got taken by Tampa Bay,

4799
03:32:10,800 --> 03:32:13,320
Speaker 8: they traded out again. Yeah, I think that that could

4800
03:32:13,360 --> 03:32:17,280
Speaker 8: be possible. He's a slot corner man, coverage corner. I

4801
03:32:17,360 --> 03:32:19,880
Speaker 8: compared him to Jonathan Jones. I think he can play

4802
03:32:20,040 --> 03:32:22,640
Speaker 8: a similar style. Play like that would have been a

4803
03:32:22,760 --> 03:32:26,080
Speaker 8: nice like complete secondary at that point with Gonzo and

4804
03:32:26,120 --> 03:32:29,240
Speaker 8: Carlton Davis on the outside and Jacob Parrish playing the nickel.

4805
03:32:29,879 --> 03:32:33,280
Speaker 8: So maybe they they wanted Perish and he went there.

4806
03:32:34,560 --> 03:32:37,040
Speaker 8: You know that pick, So that would be the one

4807
03:32:37,120 --> 03:32:39,920
Speaker 8: guy that I would look at in nat cluster and say,

4808
03:32:40,959 --> 03:32:43,160
Speaker 8: if there's anyone that I thought that they might actually

4809
03:32:43,280 --> 03:32:47,440
Speaker 8: draft coming in, it was probably Parish. And it does

4810
03:32:48,160 --> 03:32:51,000
Speaker 8: make sense, you know that they picked him the pick before.

4811
03:32:51,240 --> 03:32:53,880
Speaker 4: Adam and Louisiana. I emailed him to PU earlier this

4812
03:32:54,000 --> 03:32:56,480
Speaker 4: year about how I thought the Giants had to take

4813
03:32:56,560 --> 03:32:59,720
Speaker 4: Sanders to three overall to save their jobs. On reflection,

4814
03:33:00,240 --> 03:33:02,040
Speaker 4: there was a lot of coping going on in that

4815
03:33:02,160 --> 03:33:04,640
Speaker 4: line of thought. He might not go in the first

4816
03:33:04,720 --> 03:33:07,560
Speaker 4: three rounds much less the first three picks. Love the

4817
03:33:07,640 --> 03:33:12,360
Speaker 4: draft coverage and this slow decent descent into insanity on

4818
03:33:12,520 --> 03:33:12,840
Speaker 4: the air.

4819
03:33:14,480 --> 03:33:15,039
Speaker 1: We'll get there.

4820
03:33:15,200 --> 03:33:17,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's gonna un out of a runway to trade

4821
03:33:17,600 --> 03:33:20,000
Speaker 7: down though. So but we're gonna get an interview too,

4822
03:33:20,080 --> 03:33:22,720
Speaker 7: aren't we. Uh, after the conclusion that yeah.

4823
03:33:22,680 --> 03:33:31,280
Speaker 4: Do we have something ready? Yeah, let's uh, let's looking.

4824
03:33:28,640 --> 03:33:30,039
Speaker 5: After we make the pick, we have that interview?

4825
03:33:30,120 --> 03:33:32,280
Speaker 4: Well we have Yeah, we're gonna have Ryan Cowden after

4826
03:33:32,440 --> 03:33:35,840
Speaker 4: our last pick on this show. That's kind of a

4827
03:33:35,879 --> 03:33:37,200
Speaker 4: reason why we have to stay in the air. But

4828
03:33:37,400 --> 03:33:40,160
Speaker 4: also do we have. We don't have Kyle Williams yet.

4829
03:33:40,200 --> 03:33:43,199
Speaker 4: I could get it ready, Okay, yeah, that'd be nice.

4830
03:33:43,480 --> 03:33:45,680
Speaker 8: So Saveon Williams just went to the Packers just to

4831
03:33:45,840 --> 03:33:48,720
Speaker 8: fill to fill a buster here for a second. So

4832
03:33:48,920 --> 03:33:51,680
Speaker 8: the Packers took Matthew Golden in the first round and

4833
03:33:51,720 --> 03:33:54,280
Speaker 8: then they took save On Williams here in the third round.

4834
03:33:54,360 --> 03:33:56,760
Speaker 8: So clearly the Packers thought they had to completely rebuild

4835
03:33:56,760 --> 03:33:59,280
Speaker 8: their wide receiver room because they just double dipped a

4836
03:33:59,440 --> 03:34:02,440
Speaker 8: wide receiver. Save you On Williams a really fun player. Uh,

4837
03:34:02,640 --> 03:34:05,040
Speaker 8: kind of like a Corderio Patterson type of player where

4838
03:34:05,560 --> 03:34:09,320
Speaker 8: you know, scheme touch guy and big, fast, explosive receiver.

4839
03:34:09,800 --> 03:34:12,880
Speaker 8: Probably needs to be like schemed, open and helped and

4840
03:34:12,959 --> 03:34:15,800
Speaker 8: things like that. He's not a pure receiver, but he's

4841
03:34:15,840 --> 03:34:18,920
Speaker 8: a fun player and with the floor and his creativity,

4842
03:34:18,959 --> 03:34:20,760
Speaker 8: I'm sure he'll be able to figure out ways to

4843
03:34:20,840 --> 03:34:22,400
Speaker 8: get the ball in his hands and how to use him.

4844
03:34:22,600 --> 03:34:24,560
Speaker 1: Say Cordell Patterson.

4845
03:34:24,240 --> 03:34:27,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, Cordill Patterson. You know, Bishard Perryman, you know that,

4846
03:34:27,840 --> 03:34:28,640
Speaker 8: those types of guys.

4847
03:34:28,720 --> 03:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a fun He was a fun guy

4848
03:34:30,080 --> 03:34:31,520
Speaker 1: to watch. I was like, what's this guy doing? I mean,

4849
03:34:31,760 --> 03:34:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know why to figure what the number is

4850
03:34:33,280 --> 03:34:34,359
Speaker 1: with a handoffs.

4851
03:34:33,959 --> 03:34:37,480
Speaker 8: That, oh yeah, and straight out of the backfield too,

4852
03:34:37,640 --> 03:34:39,480
Speaker 8: like as a running back. And I think the one

4853
03:34:39,560 --> 03:34:42,360
Speaker 8: thing that really could put him over the top is

4854
03:34:42,560 --> 03:34:45,080
Speaker 8: is that he has better contested catch skills than I

4855
03:34:45,120 --> 03:34:47,600
Speaker 8: would say Patterson did. Like he can climb the ladder

4856
03:34:47,640 --> 03:34:49,680
Speaker 8: and catch the ball over guys and use his size

4857
03:34:49,720 --> 03:34:52,720
Speaker 8: in that way. But it's funny because they'll he'll drop

4858
03:34:52,840 --> 03:34:55,120
Speaker 8: like a five yard slant where he's uncovered and there's

4859
03:34:55,160 --> 03:34:57,120
Speaker 8: nobody around him, and he'll just drop the ball and

4860
03:34:57,200 --> 03:34:59,160
Speaker 8: then he'll go and moss somebody on the next play.

4861
03:34:59,200 --> 03:35:00,520
Speaker 8: It's He's one of those kinds of guys.

4862
03:35:00,680 --> 03:35:03,119
Speaker 1: Did you guys look at what's happening in the NFC

4863
03:35:03,200 --> 03:35:05,320
Speaker 1: West a little bit as like an arms race. It's

4864
03:35:05,320 --> 03:35:06,520
Speaker 1: an arms race right now there.

4865
03:35:06,560 --> 03:35:08,960
Speaker 7: I mean, all these receivers have gone. I mean, Detroit

4866
03:35:09,160 --> 03:35:13,680
Speaker 7: super explosive offense last year. Chicago seemingly can't get enough receivers.

4867
03:35:14,040 --> 03:35:17,560
Speaker 7: We've seen Packers have added a couple as well. You know,

4868
03:35:17,640 --> 03:35:20,480
Speaker 7: I just I wonder how much the team inside the

4869
03:35:20,560 --> 03:35:23,120
Speaker 7: division kind of dictates how the rest of the team's

4870
03:35:23,160 --> 03:35:25,040
Speaker 7: kind of play. Like when the Patriots were dominating. I

4871
03:35:25,080 --> 03:35:27,280
Speaker 7: always felt like the Jets the Bills there always how

4872
03:35:27,320 --> 03:35:28,600
Speaker 7: do we get to Tom Brady? You know, we would

4873
03:35:28,600 --> 03:35:31,280
Speaker 7: get interior pressure? Do we try to target those guys?

4874
03:35:31,720 --> 03:35:34,520
Speaker 7: I just I wonder in that division if Detroit's really

4875
03:35:34,640 --> 03:35:36,160
Speaker 7: kind of set in the bar and all these other

4876
03:35:36,200 --> 03:35:37,520
Speaker 7: teams are, like, man, we are going to have to

4877
03:35:37,560 --> 03:35:39,080
Speaker 7: score a bunch of points to keep up with those

4878
03:35:39,120 --> 03:35:39,920
Speaker 7: guys the way they play.

4879
03:35:40,160 --> 03:35:44,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Chad Atlanta. Will there ever be an answer, a

4880
03:35:44,640 --> 03:35:49,760
Speaker 4: true answer to the exposition exposition for the Patriots? Yeah?

4881
03:35:49,840 --> 03:35:50,000
Speaker 21: Yeah.

4882
03:35:50,080 --> 03:35:52,760
Speaker 4: Evan says Kyle Williams can play on the outside, but

4883
03:35:52,840 --> 03:35:55,240
Speaker 4: he's a small guy. Are they really going to go

4884
03:35:55,360 --> 03:35:57,840
Speaker 4: into the season with thirty one year old Matt Collins

4885
03:35:57,920 --> 03:35:58,520
Speaker 4: at that spot?

4886
03:35:59,720 --> 03:36:03,480
Speaker 8: I would say that, Uh, just because the guy is

4887
03:36:03,560 --> 03:36:05,240
Speaker 8: not six foot four, it doesn't mean he can't be

4888
03:36:05,320 --> 03:36:07,920
Speaker 8: an X receiver. You know, Stefan Diggs has played X

4889
03:36:08,000 --> 03:36:13,080
Speaker 8: receiver plenty of in his career in Buffalo, especially in

4890
03:36:13,200 --> 03:36:15,360
Speaker 8: Minnesota when he was playing next to THELN, So like,

4891
03:36:15,480 --> 03:36:18,120
Speaker 8: it's not it's not just a size thing. Like you

4892
03:36:18,160 --> 03:36:20,240
Speaker 8: can play on the outside with a different set of

4893
03:36:20,360 --> 03:36:24,040
Speaker 8: skills than just being a big body X receiver that

4894
03:36:24,120 --> 03:36:26,440
Speaker 8: can play outside the numbers. So in this kind of

4895
03:36:26,480 --> 03:36:29,360
Speaker 8: offense with McDaniels, I mean, there's a lot of guys

4896
03:36:29,440 --> 03:36:32,240
Speaker 8: that that weren't big guys that played the X for

4897
03:36:32,320 --> 03:36:35,400
Speaker 8: Josh McDaniels. Like I go back to like Brandon Lloyd

4898
03:36:35,600 --> 03:36:37,840
Speaker 8: was like he was what one hundred and eighty pounds

4899
03:36:37,879 --> 03:36:40,400
Speaker 8: soaking wet, like, I mean, he was not a I.

4900
03:36:40,360 --> 03:36:43,800
Speaker 5: Mean, I Fell was bigger than Lloyd. But even you know,

4901
03:36:44,600 --> 03:36:46,400
Speaker 5: Josh had got a good year out of Bourne. And

4902
03:36:46,480 --> 03:36:48,760
Speaker 5: I know he's not he's not an X like, he's

4903
03:36:48,800 --> 03:36:52,320
Speaker 5: not really in that, but he's not afraid to be unconventional. Yeah,

4904
03:36:52,480 --> 03:36:56,600
Speaker 5: And I think Josh likes Kendrick Bourne for whatever reason,

4905
03:36:56,760 --> 03:36:59,400
Speaker 5: Like I like, I we talked about this. I would

4906
03:36:59,600 --> 03:37:01,879
Speaker 5: make him expendable before I would make a younger guy

4907
03:37:02,000 --> 03:37:05,120
Speaker 5: expendable Budger. I don't think Josh looks at it that way. Now,

4908
03:37:05,200 --> 03:37:07,039
Speaker 5: and someone's going to go now, I mean they added

4909
03:37:07,120 --> 03:37:09,520
Speaker 5: Kyle Williams, Someone's going to go.

4910
03:37:09,879 --> 03:37:11,960
Speaker 7: I mean to me, it's just about I'd like a

4911
03:37:12,080 --> 03:37:15,360
Speaker 7: spectrum of options, and you know, of course, competition's got

4912
03:37:15,480 --> 03:37:16,640
Speaker 7: to be part of it, and you want to let

4913
03:37:16,640 --> 03:37:18,520
Speaker 7: these guys all duke it out and there is some

4914
03:37:18,680 --> 03:37:21,360
Speaker 7: overlap with the position group, but you know, I want

4915
03:37:21,360 --> 03:37:23,640
Speaker 7: a guy with speed. I want a guy who you

4916
03:37:23,680 --> 03:37:25,920
Speaker 7: know good after the catch. I want some size like

4917
03:37:26,040 --> 03:37:28,880
Speaker 7: with Mac Collins. I mean, you joke about it, but

4918
03:37:29,680 --> 03:37:31,880
Speaker 7: Mac Collins being like your fifth receiver and being a

4919
03:37:31,959 --> 03:37:34,240
Speaker 7: key special teams guy like that's an important role on

4920
03:37:34,320 --> 03:37:36,400
Speaker 7: the team. And you know, somebody who can contribute in

4921
03:37:36,640 --> 03:37:39,440
Speaker 7: both phases. So and that's why I'm excited about Williams.

4922
03:37:39,440 --> 03:37:40,760
Speaker 7: I mean, I set up before they picked him and

4923
03:37:40,840 --> 03:37:41,959
Speaker 7: wanted a guy in that mold.

4924
03:37:42,000 --> 03:37:42,800
Speaker 10: That was what I was.

4925
03:37:42,840 --> 03:37:45,600
Speaker 1: Interested in this year. Not the not the little slot guys,

4926
03:37:45,720 --> 03:37:47,480
Speaker 1: not the tough guys, but the guys who's just going

4927
03:37:47,520 --> 03:37:50,240
Speaker 1: to bring an element of separation and speed. And that's

4928
03:37:50,320 --> 03:37:51,560
Speaker 1: and I think they've really.

4929
03:37:51,440 --> 03:37:52,880
Speaker 4: Got a good spectrum in this room. I don't know

4930
03:37:52,920 --> 03:37:53,640
Speaker 4: how it'll work out.

4931
03:37:53,840 --> 03:37:55,119
Speaker 1: I don't know who the one and then the two

4932
03:37:55,240 --> 03:37:56,960
Speaker 1: and all that stuff will be, but I think they

4933
03:37:57,000 --> 03:37:59,600
Speaker 1: have enough to work with that fosters some competition the

4934
03:37:59,640 --> 03:38:02,360
Speaker 1: summer camp, get some joint practices, start to see you

4935
03:38:02,440 --> 03:38:03,600
Speaker 1: know who who stands out.

4936
03:38:03,480 --> 03:38:06,640
Speaker 5: Like Rise And again I keep saying it, you can't fill.

4937
03:38:06,920 --> 03:38:09,119
Speaker 5: They probably still have a hole there at that one,

4938
03:38:09,200 --> 03:38:12,000
Speaker 5: but you can't fill them all at once. Someone wrote in,

4939
03:38:12,240 --> 03:38:13,800
Speaker 5: you know, like a half hour ago, you know, the

4940
03:38:13,920 --> 03:38:17,879
Speaker 5: idea of digs with Kyle Williams and to Mario Douglas,

4941
03:38:18,360 --> 03:38:22,240
Speaker 5: it's not the worst this room for a one there

4942
03:38:22,400 --> 03:38:25,160
Speaker 5: to knock all those guys down a spot, but that's

4943
03:38:25,200 --> 03:38:27,280
Speaker 5: better than they've had out there the last couple of years.

4944
03:38:27,360 --> 03:38:27,560
Speaker 10: Sure.

4945
03:38:27,640 --> 03:38:30,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, And like you said, Paul if Stefan Diggs is

4946
03:38:30,440 --> 03:38:32,880
Speaker 8: just like a bridge one for now, you know. You

4947
03:38:32,959 --> 03:38:35,520
Speaker 8: know this year he's a bridge one and you got

4948
03:38:35,560 --> 03:38:38,120
Speaker 8: the left tackle this year. Maybe next year in the

4949
03:38:38,200 --> 03:38:40,760
Speaker 8: first round there's a stud wide receiver that comes out

4950
03:38:40,800 --> 03:38:43,120
Speaker 8: that you feel is worthy of a pick, you know,

4951
03:38:43,200 --> 03:38:44,280
Speaker 8: in the wherever they.

4952
03:38:44,440 --> 03:38:47,680
Speaker 5: Let's say that you get better and he's a bridge

4953
03:38:47,720 --> 03:38:50,200
Speaker 5: guy one year, but you're picking in the teens next year.

4954
03:38:50,280 --> 03:38:52,600
Speaker 5: You can be in line to get a you know,

4955
03:38:52,680 --> 03:38:55,160
Speaker 5: a top wide receiver. You know, maybe not like a

4956
03:38:55,720 --> 03:38:58,000
Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Myleak Neighbors type, because they're going to go

4957
03:38:58,040 --> 03:38:59,800
Speaker 5: at the top of the round, but you can get

4958
03:38:59,800 --> 03:39:04,199
Speaker 5: a player in the teams at that position. You gotta

4959
03:39:04,240 --> 03:39:06,240
Speaker 5: feel you got to take him as they come. You know,

4960
03:39:06,320 --> 03:39:10,000
Speaker 5: it's like Cleveland's not forcing the quarterback. They still need

4961
03:39:10,080 --> 03:39:10,600
Speaker 5: a quarterback.

4962
03:39:10,680 --> 03:39:17,080
Speaker 4: You should yet you know, oh my god, Wownderson comes

4963
03:39:17,080 --> 03:39:20,920
Speaker 4: in and has forty catches this year. Maybe what what

4964
03:39:21,000 --> 03:39:21,600
Speaker 4: does that mean?

4965
03:39:21,840 --> 03:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Who gets forty catches?

4966
03:39:24,480 --> 03:39:26,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, that would be awesome. I don't know if he's

4967
03:39:26,000 --> 03:39:28,080
Speaker 8: gonna have forty catches, but that would be great. I mean,

4968
03:39:28,520 --> 03:39:31,000
Speaker 8: he's got that kind of ability, There's no doubt about it. Like,

4969
03:39:31,080 --> 03:39:34,680
Speaker 8: he's got that kind of past catching ability. And you know,

4970
03:39:34,720 --> 03:39:38,640
Speaker 8: if he's truly good enough in pass protection and they

4971
03:39:38,840 --> 03:39:42,039
Speaker 8: keep aces the test mentally in that respect, then they

4972
03:39:42,080 --> 03:39:43,840
Speaker 8: can keep him on the field for third downs and

4973
03:39:44,000 --> 03:39:45,480
Speaker 8: and maybe, like it's possible.

4974
03:39:45,520 --> 03:39:47,360
Speaker 7: It's kind of an interesting experiment. I mean, you guys

4975
03:39:47,400 --> 03:39:49,280
Speaker 7: would you guys would know that. You know, it took

4976
03:39:49,360 --> 03:39:52,000
Speaker 7: some time for Sane Vereen to kind of develop with

4977
03:39:52,080 --> 03:39:52,600
Speaker 7: Kevin fall.

4978
03:39:52,640 --> 03:39:55,080
Speaker 5: I was just going to say, took some time, you know, for.

4979
03:39:55,160 --> 03:39:56,400
Speaker 1: James White to then develop.

4980
03:39:56,480 --> 03:39:59,840
Speaker 5: Both of those guys basically red shirted offense for that.

4981
03:40:00,200 --> 03:40:03,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, but but Henderson has like pass protection skills.

4982
03:40:03,240 --> 03:40:05,400
Speaker 5: He comes in with that probably at a higher level

4983
03:40:05,440 --> 03:40:05,840
Speaker 5: than most.

4984
03:40:06,280 --> 03:40:09,000
Speaker 1: So it's it's, you know, it'll just an interesting experiment.

4985
03:40:09,000 --> 03:40:09,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna work.

4986
03:40:09,959 --> 03:40:13,040
Speaker 4: When Veren came, it was fun, and then when when

4987
03:40:13,320 --> 03:40:15,119
Speaker 4: White came, it was Ververen. So they had to wait

4988
03:40:15,160 --> 03:40:16,760
Speaker 4: their turn. Yeah, am I right? Yeah?

4989
03:40:16,840 --> 03:40:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

4990
03:40:17,440 --> 03:40:20,120
Speaker 4: I mean, uh, this guy doesn't have to wait for anybody.

4991
03:40:20,240 --> 03:40:21,879
Speaker 7: No, No, I mean, and I mean, and I kind

4992
03:40:21,879 --> 03:40:23,560
Speaker 7: of like Antonio gets. I mean, you know, I was

4993
03:40:23,600 --> 03:40:25,400
Speaker 7: probably liked him a little more than anybody else, but

4994
03:40:26,959 --> 03:40:28,240
Speaker 7: young legs and running back.

4995
03:40:28,280 --> 03:40:29,520
Speaker 5: He's not ready. He's not ready.

4996
03:40:29,720 --> 03:40:33,720
Speaker 8: Yea, yeah, no, I but I think you're gonna as

4997
03:40:33,760 --> 03:40:36,240
Speaker 8: a team like the Patriots that that are starving for

4998
03:40:36,360 --> 03:40:39,800
Speaker 8: big plays run offense, You're gonna want to find ways

4999
03:40:39,840 --> 03:40:42,440
Speaker 8: to get Trevon Henderson the ball in space, like, even

5000
03:40:42,520 --> 03:40:45,720
Speaker 8: if it's has to be really orchestrated because he can't

5001
03:40:45,760 --> 03:40:48,920
Speaker 8: handle just playing every single third down right out of

5002
03:40:49,000 --> 03:40:52,080
Speaker 8: the gate with the pass protection responsibilities. I think you're

5003
03:40:52,120 --> 03:40:53,760
Speaker 8: still going to try to find ways on first and

5004
03:40:53,840 --> 03:40:57,039
Speaker 8: second down, throw them screens, throw them passes into the flats,

5005
03:40:57,080 --> 03:40:59,280
Speaker 8: you know, swings, things like that, and just to see

5006
03:40:59,280 --> 03:41:01,200
Speaker 8: if you can get them and get him, get him

5007
03:41:01,200 --> 03:41:01,880
Speaker 8: into some space.

5008
03:41:02,000 --> 03:41:03,840
Speaker 5: Yeah. And I think if they felt like Shane Vereen

5009
03:41:03,959 --> 03:41:06,879
Speaker 5: was ready, like Kevin Falk did nothing really that last year.

5010
03:41:06,959 --> 03:41:09,760
Speaker 5: Got heard that twenty eleven year he didn't. It wasn't

5011
03:41:09,800 --> 03:41:11,480
Speaker 5: really a big part. I don't think he was even

5012
03:41:11,520 --> 03:41:12,720
Speaker 5: active in the playoffs.

5013
03:41:12,800 --> 03:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they had Danny Woodhead kind of had the.

5014
03:41:14,560 --> 03:41:17,000
Speaker 7: Like would stop gap a little, right, It was Woodhead

5015
03:41:17,000 --> 03:41:18,039
Speaker 7: that he got aways too.

5016
03:41:18,200 --> 03:41:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Veren was really good in that strol.

5017
03:41:20,879 --> 03:41:23,000
Speaker 7: But then I remember you get to twenty fifteen and

5018
03:41:23,200 --> 03:41:25,160
Speaker 7: and then the playoffs in twenty fifteen and James White

5019
03:41:25,200 --> 03:41:27,320
Speaker 7: had like fifteen targets or something crazy.

5020
03:41:27,120 --> 03:41:28,960
Speaker 1: Like that, Like me just a bunch of touches, had six.

5021
03:41:29,120 --> 03:41:31,640
Speaker 5: Didn't you have like a million catches in that Denver game?

5022
03:41:31,680 --> 03:41:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

5023
03:41:32,920 --> 03:41:35,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, soft for that wheel route, right, And I.

5024
03:41:35,480 --> 03:41:36,880
Speaker 1: Remember kind of like going into that.

5025
03:41:37,160 --> 03:41:39,800
Speaker 5: I remember going to that offen amazing, how Brady's never

5026
03:41:39,879 --> 03:41:40,600
Speaker 5: made a bad pass.

5027
03:41:41,000 --> 03:41:41,600
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

5028
03:41:41,840 --> 03:41:43,840
Speaker 7: It's it's funny, is I remember being kind of frustrated

5029
03:41:43,840 --> 03:41:45,080
Speaker 7: by that game and like, what are we doing?

5030
03:41:45,160 --> 03:41:47,199
Speaker 5: We're trying to force the ball that James White targeted

5031
03:41:47,280 --> 03:41:48,160
Speaker 5: him a million times.

5032
03:41:48,280 --> 03:41:50,520
Speaker 7: Cut to one year later in the Super Bowl and

5033
03:41:50,640 --> 03:41:52,880
Speaker 7: James White is you know, got two point conversions in

5034
03:41:52,920 --> 03:41:53,879
Speaker 7: the game when he touched down.

5035
03:41:54,120 --> 03:41:55,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's funny how it works out.

5036
03:41:56,160 --> 03:41:58,600
Speaker 4: Ryan says, saying the Pages would have picked Kyle Williams

5037
03:41:58,680 --> 03:42:01,040
Speaker 4: in the second is outrageous. They would have picked Nick

5038
03:42:01,160 --> 03:42:02,680
Speaker 4: Nash in the second, Let's be honest.

5039
03:42:04,080 --> 03:42:06,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I said this before the draft, and I just

5040
03:42:07,080 --> 03:42:11,160
Speaker 8: that's why I think I'm I'm mostly excited because you know, Paul,

5041
03:42:11,240 --> 03:42:13,240
Speaker 8: you say this a lot, but like, we don't really

5042
03:42:13,320 --> 03:42:14,760
Speaker 8: know what these guys are going to turn into. Like

5043
03:42:14,800 --> 03:42:16,760
Speaker 8: we all hope that, we have hope that they're going

5044
03:42:16,800 --> 03:42:19,800
Speaker 8: to turn into great players. But they've stuck to the

5045
03:42:19,840 --> 03:42:23,560
Speaker 8: board here, like Campbell Anderson, Williams, is they all they

5046
03:42:23,680 --> 03:42:26,160
Speaker 8: picked them exactly where everyone had them projected to go,

5047
03:42:26,680 --> 03:42:29,440
Speaker 8: you know, first, second, third round, and there's no reaches,

5048
03:42:29,560 --> 03:42:32,199
Speaker 8: there's no wait what they picked who in the second round?

5049
03:42:32,360 --> 03:42:35,240
Speaker 8: Like there's nothing going on like that. You know, that's

5050
03:42:35,400 --> 03:42:38,560
Speaker 8: that's a refreshing feeling because I didn't really necessarily feel

5051
03:42:38,600 --> 03:42:39,760
Speaker 8: that way the last couple of years.

5052
03:42:39,959 --> 03:42:43,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, and again, we don't know that the projections are right.

5053
03:42:43,400 --> 03:42:47,960
Speaker 5: But there's two things. Number One, you you inherently feel

5054
03:42:48,000 --> 03:42:50,000
Speaker 5: better when they're picking guys that you're really familiar with

5055
03:42:50,320 --> 03:42:51,520
Speaker 5: at you know, in the school positions.

5056
03:42:51,560 --> 03:42:52,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah sure.

5057
03:42:52,959 --> 03:42:54,960
Speaker 5: Will you be talking about running back a wide receiver?

5058
03:42:55,480 --> 03:42:55,720
Speaker 8: Yeah?

5059
03:42:55,840 --> 03:42:57,800
Speaker 5: Like I know these guys, I know these names. I

5060
03:42:58,080 --> 03:43:01,360
Speaker 5: watched the highlights, these guys as to the guard that

5061
03:43:01,600 --> 03:43:02,400
Speaker 5: like there is.

5062
03:43:03,360 --> 03:43:04,760
Speaker 1: I know, well that was last year with like what

5063
03:43:04,920 --> 03:43:06,080
Speaker 1: day two when they had you know, a bunch of

5064
03:43:06,120 --> 03:43:07,240
Speaker 1: guards going and they're.

5065
03:43:07,160 --> 03:43:11,160
Speaker 5: Like yeah, okay, wait yeah road grad. Yeah it looks

5066
03:43:11,280 --> 03:43:14,240
Speaker 5: like but it's harder, it's harder to make the projection.

5067
03:43:13,959 --> 03:43:16,720
Speaker 4: Yet, Matt, might be a good time to take a break.

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03:48:31,720 --> 03:48:33,640
Speaker 4: you know, It's like, oh, it's a story.

5170
03:48:33,840 --> 03:48:36,400
Speaker 5: Like for these NFL people that are like a gash,

5171
03:48:36,480 --> 03:48:38,920
Speaker 5: I wonder are they are they talking? Like on Twitter

5172
03:48:39,000 --> 03:48:41,400
Speaker 5: they keep writing all like the players that are available

5173
03:48:41,440 --> 03:48:43,560
Speaker 5: at all, and every one of them, you know, He's.

5174
03:48:44,760 --> 03:48:46,880
Speaker 7: It's a little bit of a psychological experiment to me

5175
03:48:47,200 --> 03:48:50,560
Speaker 7: because after I heard Sanders talk at the combine and

5176
03:48:50,800 --> 03:48:53,720
Speaker 7: just you know, couldn't have been more self assured, more

5177
03:48:53,840 --> 03:48:54,760
Speaker 7: confident in himself.

5178
03:48:54,800 --> 03:48:56,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, this is going to go one of

5179
03:48:56,120 --> 03:48:58,920
Speaker 1: two ways. And now I just want to see how

5180
03:48:58,959 --> 03:48:59,600
Speaker 1: he deals with this.

5181
03:48:59,720 --> 03:49:00,240
Speaker 10: What's this?

5182
03:49:00,400 --> 03:49:01,680
Speaker 1: You know, what does this do to him?

5183
03:49:02,080 --> 03:49:03,960
Speaker 7: He seemed to completely believe that he was ready to

5184
03:49:04,000 --> 03:49:06,000
Speaker 7: come in and turn a franchise around, and now he's

5185
03:49:06,040 --> 03:49:07,880
Speaker 7: going to have to, you know, take a long look

5186
03:49:07,920 --> 03:49:10,080
Speaker 7: at going into a team and working his way in

5187
03:49:10,240 --> 03:49:12,800
Speaker 7: waiting for an opportunity, trying to get better. It's I

5188
03:49:12,880 --> 03:49:15,160
Speaker 7: think it's a lot different. I just can't imagine that

5189
03:49:15,280 --> 03:49:16,440
Speaker 7: there was anyone telling.

5190
03:49:16,280 --> 03:49:17,480
Speaker 1: Him that he was going to end up being a

5191
03:49:17,560 --> 03:49:19,600
Speaker 1: Day three selection. I mean, I made a bet with

5192
03:49:19,600 --> 03:49:20,680
Speaker 1: Paul He's going on the top of it.

5193
03:49:20,720 --> 03:49:22,360
Speaker 4: But like, I didn't think he was that great. But

5194
03:49:22,640 --> 03:49:25,600
Speaker 4: I think he's better than Jalen milroeh. I just you know,

5195
03:49:25,720 --> 03:49:26,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm pretty.

5196
03:49:26,440 --> 03:49:31,240
Speaker 5: Sure, so I think he's better than Jalen Milroe as well.

5197
03:49:31,840 --> 03:49:37,840
Speaker 5: But Jalen Milroe is a vastly superior athlete. And if

5198
03:49:37,880 --> 03:49:41,760
Speaker 5: you don't think that Sanders can throw well enough, he

5199
03:49:41,800 --> 03:49:44,160
Speaker 5: doesn't have the physical skills to make up for that. Now,

5200
03:49:44,320 --> 03:49:46,720
Speaker 5: I think that Sanders is better than Milroe, but I

5201
03:49:46,760 --> 03:49:49,280
Speaker 5: could understand why someone could look at Milroe and say,

5202
03:49:49,320 --> 03:49:52,800
Speaker 5: I can lamar Jackson him. He's special, He's got a

5203
03:49:52,840 --> 03:49:54,440
Speaker 5: special skill that Sanders doesn't.

5204
03:49:54,600 --> 03:49:57,800
Speaker 8: Special runner and and really good arm like you know, yes,

5205
03:49:58,280 --> 03:50:01,560
Speaker 8: very inaccurate, but really good armed strength and power in

5206
03:50:01,640 --> 03:50:05,000
Speaker 8: his throes. Better at both those things, I would say

5207
03:50:05,040 --> 03:50:07,640
Speaker 8: than Chador. But sure Chador is definitely a better pocket passer,

5208
03:50:07,760 --> 03:50:10,760
Speaker 8: like he definitely has a better innate feel for playing

5209
03:50:10,800 --> 03:50:11,920
Speaker 8: the position for sure.

5210
03:50:12,520 --> 03:50:18,880
Speaker 5: I am just fascinated by if this was just about

5211
03:50:18,920 --> 03:50:20,800
Speaker 5: the interviews and all that, which a lot of the

5212
03:50:22,000 --> 03:50:25,400
Speaker 5: talking heads are intimating, like, oh, this is all deon Sanders.

5213
03:50:25,520 --> 03:50:29,040
Speaker 5: You know, they don't they don't want the cocky, brash attitude.

5214
03:50:29,480 --> 03:50:31,720
Speaker 5: He rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. That

5215
03:50:32,120 --> 03:50:34,640
Speaker 5: that can't be. It like it, it has to be.

5216
03:50:34,720 --> 03:50:37,680
Speaker 5: People aren't sold on the skills. And then they're saying,

5217
03:50:38,240 --> 03:50:40,040
Speaker 5: I'm not going to bother taking a flyer on a

5218
03:50:40,080 --> 03:50:43,040
Speaker 5: guy who has limited skills because of how poorly he interviewed.

5219
03:50:43,080 --> 03:50:45,760
Speaker 5: It's it's not worth it. It has to be a

5220
03:50:45,840 --> 03:50:46,800
Speaker 5: combination of the two.

5221
03:50:47,080 --> 03:50:49,280
Speaker 7: That way, I kind of respect the NFL teams for

5222
03:50:49,360 --> 03:50:51,040
Speaker 7: doing it. I just I thought they'd all be duped.

5223
03:50:51,040 --> 03:50:53,360
Speaker 7: I thought they'd buy the confidence and they would just say,

5224
03:50:53,400 --> 03:50:54,960
Speaker 7: we don't think this guy can really play.

5225
03:50:55,040 --> 03:50:58,000
Speaker 1: But it's Dion's kid. He seems like he really is confident.

5226
03:50:58,080 --> 03:50:59,800
Speaker 1: He seems to believe in himself. I think we need

5227
03:50:59,880 --> 03:51:02,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Let's just pull the trigger. That's how I

5228
03:51:02,240 --> 03:51:04,120
Speaker 1: saw it unfolding. But I think you're right, Paul. I

5229
03:51:04,160 --> 03:51:05,040
Speaker 1: think teams just scared away.

5230
03:51:05,520 --> 03:51:07,840
Speaker 4: So the Saints pick is in, then it's the Browns,

5231
03:51:08,040 --> 03:51:11,720
Speaker 4: and then it's the Patriots at ninety five in the

5232
03:51:11,840 --> 03:51:12,880
Speaker 4: third round, and.

5233
03:51:13,000 --> 03:51:14,240
Speaker 5: That ends the third round.

5234
03:51:14,840 --> 03:51:17,240
Speaker 1: No, No, still about seven. There's still a chance they

5235
03:51:17,280 --> 03:51:20,120
Speaker 1: could trade back down or trade back in.

5236
03:51:21,640 --> 03:51:22,080
Speaker 8: Two picks.

5237
03:51:22,160 --> 03:51:24,440
Speaker 5: So that's why I was asking, well, they do have

5238
03:51:24,800 --> 03:51:27,200
Speaker 5: oh yeah, you haven't even gotten to the compensatory picks yet.

5239
03:51:27,200 --> 03:51:30,520
Speaker 8: They do have three fifth round picks now because they

5240
03:51:30,560 --> 03:51:34,160
Speaker 8: added a pick, and they have the two seventh So uh,

5241
03:51:34,400 --> 03:51:35,480
Speaker 8: in theory they could.

5242
03:51:35,360 --> 03:51:37,720
Speaker 4: I forgot about the comp pe Yeah, the third round

5243
03:51:38,000 --> 03:51:41,040
Speaker 4: at one O two and the Patriots will be at

5244
03:51:41,160 --> 03:51:50,960
Speaker 4: ninety five. Ker went to, Uh, the Saints, Virginia.

5245
03:51:51,080 --> 03:51:53,240
Speaker 8: You want two guesses at the Patriots pick. I'll give

5246
03:51:53,240 --> 03:51:53,920
Speaker 8: you two guesses.

5247
03:51:54,080 --> 03:51:54,760
Speaker 5: Well, one of them.

5248
03:51:55,520 --> 03:51:59,040
Speaker 8: Joshua Farmer from Florida State, defensive end, play a little

5249
03:51:59,040 --> 03:52:02,480
Speaker 8: bit of tackle as well, long arms on arm length

5250
03:52:02,560 --> 03:52:04,160
Speaker 8: with the Patriots. I think he has like thirty five

5251
03:52:04,200 --> 03:52:07,360
Speaker 8: inch arms like, he's got real long arms. He's got

5252
03:52:07,400 --> 03:52:11,600
Speaker 8: good power, good two gapping ability. The other guy, similar player,

5253
03:52:11,800 --> 03:52:17,960
Speaker 8: similar position, Baron Sorel from Texas. Really raw, toolsy, high upside,

5254
03:52:18,840 --> 03:52:22,520
Speaker 8: very athletic defensive end, four to three end. I think

5255
03:52:22,800 --> 03:52:26,040
Speaker 8: he plays me and he plays nasty, angry effort, finish

5256
03:52:26,440 --> 03:52:28,720
Speaker 8: check check. I think both those guys make a lot

5257
03:52:28,760 --> 03:52:31,760
Speaker 8: of sense for them right now at this spot in deuce,

5258
03:52:31,840 --> 03:52:34,280
Speaker 8: will finally get a player on defense.

5259
03:52:34,360 --> 03:52:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah you think so, No, I don't know.

5260
03:52:36,400 --> 03:52:37,160
Speaker 8: It's just my guess.

5261
03:52:37,720 --> 03:52:39,040
Speaker 5: We're just trying to play k I.

5262
03:52:39,040 --> 03:52:41,480
Speaker 7: Mean, just a little little highlight for tomorrow, so you know,

5263
03:52:41,640 --> 03:52:44,360
Speaker 7: fourth round kickoff things that I guess at noon, fourth

5264
03:52:44,440 --> 03:52:46,520
Speaker 7: overall pick, and then in the in the fifth round

5265
03:52:46,520 --> 03:52:48,440
Speaker 7: if you don't want to do the math.

5266
03:52:49,040 --> 03:52:53,640
Speaker 1: They'll pick eighth or sorry, sixth and eighth, and there

5267
03:52:53,720 --> 03:52:54,600
Speaker 1: should be one more so.

5268
03:52:54,720 --> 03:52:59,600
Speaker 8: The Browns have taken a quarterback. It is not or

5269
03:53:00,760 --> 03:53:03,840
Speaker 8: they have taken Dylan Gabriel, the quarterback from Oregon. So

5270
03:53:04,520 --> 03:53:07,560
Speaker 8: Dylan Gabriel is like five eight five nine, like legitimately

5271
03:53:07,720 --> 03:53:09,000
Speaker 8: like he's he's tiny.

5272
03:53:09,160 --> 03:53:13,400
Speaker 5: So there's a guy with probably less physical skills like that.

5273
03:53:13,720 --> 03:53:16,200
Speaker 8: They just really did not like Shdoor Sanders like that.

5274
03:53:16,320 --> 03:53:19,360
Speaker 8: This is a complete I mean, Dylan Gabriel, this highest

5275
03:53:19,600 --> 03:53:21,600
Speaker 8: is honestly kind of crazy. I think this is kind

5276
03:53:21,600 --> 03:53:22,520
Speaker 8: of might just.

5277
03:53:22,560 --> 03:53:23,640
Speaker 4: Burn this league down.

5278
03:53:24,000 --> 03:53:24,280
Speaker 10: He might.

5279
03:53:24,960 --> 03:53:26,520
Speaker 4: He might go to war with the NFL.

5280
03:53:26,680 --> 03:53:27,880
Speaker 8: The Patriots are on the clock.

5281
03:53:27,920 --> 03:53:29,600
Speaker 1: By the way, is it too late for Shure to

5282
03:53:29,640 --> 03:53:31,680
Speaker 1: go back to Colorado since they retired his number?

5283
03:53:32,120 --> 03:53:37,040
Speaker 4: Ah? Well, you can always unretire what you retire, I mean,

5284
03:53:37,280 --> 03:53:39,280
Speaker 4: just wear a different number. Right, I can do whatever

5285
03:53:39,320 --> 03:53:45,680
Speaker 4: he wants. Okay, So the Patriots are on the clock.

5286
03:53:45,800 --> 03:53:49,880
Speaker 4: The pick is in for Cleveland, so we await the

5287
03:53:49,960 --> 03:53:54,280
Speaker 4: Patriots pick. Here on Patriots Unfiltered getting into the wee

5288
03:53:54,440 --> 03:53:57,960
Speaker 4: hours here. This is bonus cover, bonus coverage.

5289
03:53:58,280 --> 03:54:00,920
Speaker 7: I want to shout out to a the caller or

5290
03:54:01,040 --> 03:54:03,320
Speaker 7: email or that you know picked the bone with me

5291
03:54:03,360 --> 03:54:05,240
Speaker 7: and then you guys for you know, kind of pile

5292
03:54:05,280 --> 03:54:06,520
Speaker 7: on me a little bit because I feel like it.

5293
03:54:06,720 --> 03:54:08,640
Speaker 4: You know, it is the juice we needed.

5294
03:54:10,080 --> 03:54:10,120
Speaker 5: That.

5295
03:54:10,440 --> 03:54:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm thanking you. I'm thanking you for for getting me

5296
03:54:13,160 --> 03:54:15,120
Speaker 1: a little angry. And you know it's not easy to

5297
03:54:15,200 --> 03:54:16,040
Speaker 1: do to get you know.

5298
03:54:16,120 --> 03:54:19,800
Speaker 4: The duce fired up, but the deuce, but they did.

5299
03:54:20,960 --> 03:54:22,120
Speaker 5: And the third person, I like it.

5300
03:54:24,600 --> 03:54:25,200
Speaker 1: It's lau.

5301
03:54:25,600 --> 03:54:28,880
Speaker 5: She brought some passion to and otherwise attack the defense.

5302
03:54:29,120 --> 03:54:31,880
Speaker 1: I gotta respond, you know, It's just it's how I.

5303
03:54:31,920 --> 03:54:34,920
Speaker 5: Am Freddie trying to tell you the defense wasn't as

5304
03:54:34,960 --> 03:54:37,320
Speaker 5: bad as the offense really got any got.

5305
03:54:37,920 --> 03:54:39,240
Speaker 1: At any point of that, did he turns to you

5306
03:54:39,280 --> 03:54:40,600
Speaker 1: and give the eyebrows thing?

5307
03:54:40,880 --> 03:54:43,800
Speaker 5: He didn't know? He didn't, although at one point we

5308
03:54:43,920 --> 03:54:45,800
Speaker 5: both did look at each other and say how great

5309
03:54:45,840 --> 03:54:49,040
Speaker 5: it was that you were as passionate as you were there. Right,

5310
03:54:49,240 --> 03:54:50,000
Speaker 5: Is that that's acturate?

5311
03:54:50,080 --> 03:54:50,160
Speaker 2: Right?

5312
03:54:50,360 --> 03:54:50,480
Speaker 10: Right?

5313
03:54:50,600 --> 03:54:52,000
Speaker 1: No, it's good, it's good. We needed we need a

5314
03:54:52,040 --> 03:54:52,960
Speaker 1: little kick in the pants there.

5315
03:54:53,200 --> 03:54:56,480
Speaker 8: Post ten PM, I still can't believe they took Dylan Gabriel. Yeah,

5316
03:54:56,600 --> 03:54:59,720
Speaker 8: I mean that's crazy that that's absolutely crazy.

5317
03:54:59,760 --> 03:55:02,040
Speaker 5: Like Dan Gabriel is the ultimate college quarterback.

5318
03:55:02,160 --> 03:55:04,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, most people had Dylan Gabriel like just pulling him

5319
03:55:04,600 --> 03:55:07,800
Speaker 8: up in the beast right now, Dylan Gabriel had a

5320
03:55:07,840 --> 03:55:11,480
Speaker 8: fourth round grade. I'm in the beast. So Dame Bruger

5321
03:55:11,520 --> 03:55:13,800
Speaker 8: had a first second on Shador Sanders and they took

5322
03:55:13,840 --> 03:55:16,040
Speaker 8: a guy with the fourth round grade instead.

5323
03:55:16,360 --> 03:55:21,400
Speaker 1: So this is just basically four is having the draft

5324
03:55:21,440 --> 03:55:23,200
Speaker 1: party again tonight or is that that was just last

5325
03:55:24,800 --> 03:55:26,520
Speaker 1: They don't have like a he's just sitting at home.

5326
03:55:28,640 --> 03:55:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy, he's just like throwing dirt right on

5327
03:55:31,640 --> 03:55:32,000
Speaker 5: the grave.

5328
03:55:32,960 --> 03:55:33,600
Speaker 4: He's not dead.

5329
03:55:34,400 --> 03:55:35,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna get a chance.

5330
03:55:35,400 --> 03:55:39,000
Speaker 4: But I don't know, is he I don't know.

5331
03:55:39,120 --> 03:55:40,680
Speaker 5: You think he goes on drafted period?

5332
03:55:41,160 --> 03:55:42,120
Speaker 10: No, damn?

5333
03:55:42,480 --> 03:55:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean at what point does he start wishing for that?

5334
03:55:45,880 --> 03:55:46,920
Speaker 5: Take him at North Carolina?

5335
03:55:47,080 --> 03:55:51,320
Speaker 8: I would have to think Pittsburgh. Maybe at some point

5336
03:55:51,600 --> 03:55:53,240
Speaker 8: in the when maybe Brady.

5337
03:55:53,120 --> 03:55:54,800
Speaker 1: Brady gets the Raiders to help him out.

5338
03:55:54,840 --> 03:55:59,920
Speaker 4: His boys should But now like again, well maybe he's humbled.

5339
03:56:00,040 --> 03:56:02,320
Speaker 4: I don't know, but like now you pick him in

5340
03:56:02,360 --> 03:56:05,760
Speaker 4: the fourth round, the fifth round as this project. But

5341
03:56:06,880 --> 03:56:08,640
Speaker 4: the clamor is going to be get him out there,

5342
03:56:08,680 --> 03:56:10,400
Speaker 4: get him out there, and do you want that?

5343
03:56:10,560 --> 03:56:12,160
Speaker 1: Well that's a good question, Fred, I mean, do you

5344
03:56:12,240 --> 03:56:13,800
Speaker 1: think if he's taken.

5345
03:56:13,760 --> 03:56:15,720
Speaker 8: Uh, Patriots pick us in.

5346
03:56:17,280 --> 03:56:20,560
Speaker 5: We don't have only only an hour over.

5347
03:56:20,720 --> 03:56:23,120
Speaker 4: It'll be the center of attention when we talk about

5348
03:56:23,240 --> 03:56:25,720
Speaker 4: very good food wild.

5349
03:56:29,040 --> 03:56:33,560
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, Dylan Gabriel.

5350
03:56:34,720 --> 03:56:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, Okay, I guess I should don't care.

5351
03:56:40,440 --> 03:56:43,480
Speaker 8: Quarter back, Yeah, speaking of centers.

5352
03:56:46,480 --> 03:56:51,200
Speaker 4: Not happy, speaking of centers, all right, Evan Happy? Yeah, yeah,

5353
03:56:51,320 --> 03:56:54,920
Speaker 4: you know, it is what it is. Who was that

5354
03:56:55,400 --> 03:56:59,920
Speaker 4: five ninety five? Yep? So why don't we just talk

5355
03:57:00,000 --> 03:57:00,320
Speaker 4: about it?

5356
03:57:00,480 --> 03:57:03,880
Speaker 8: All right? So well, we're going to be the first

5357
03:57:03,920 --> 03:57:04,600
Speaker 8: one to talk about it.

5358
03:57:04,680 --> 03:57:07,320
Speaker 4: Just oh really yeah, no one else is not, okay,

5359
03:57:07,560 --> 03:57:10,960
Speaker 4: so let's wait, yeah, let's wait. Wow, I can't believe that.

5360
03:57:11,600 --> 03:57:13,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, maybe just you talk a little bit about

5361
03:57:14,640 --> 03:57:19,280
Speaker 7: David Andrews retired this year, obviously a great player from Georgia.

5362
03:57:22,640 --> 03:57:26,400
Speaker 1: Snap the ball, all right, I mean I.

5363
03:57:28,520 --> 03:57:31,440
Speaker 8: Show I tried to play.

5364
03:57:32,160 --> 03:57:32,920
Speaker 9: I tried to play.

5365
03:57:34,520 --> 03:57:36,720
Speaker 7: Because I just wanted to honor David Andrews and the

5366
03:57:36,800 --> 03:57:38,880
Speaker 7: great job he did as a center from Georgia for

5367
03:57:39,000 --> 03:57:39,640
Speaker 7: the Patriots.

5368
03:57:40,680 --> 03:57:43,400
Speaker 4: Adam and We said, the networks are absolutely talking about

5369
03:57:43,440 --> 03:57:46,960
Speaker 4: Shador Sanders slides, so much so that NFL network was

5370
03:57:47,000 --> 03:57:49,920
Speaker 4: discussing if he could return to college and he can't.

5371
03:57:53,280 --> 03:57:54,440
Speaker 1: Oh, they were bringing that up too.

5372
03:57:55,200 --> 03:57:58,720
Speaker 5: So I I wonder the team that I would really

5373
03:57:58,760 --> 03:58:03,520
Speaker 5: wonder about is purg because of Tomlin and his strong

5374
03:58:04,600 --> 03:58:06,480
Speaker 5: like I'm talking about the teams that need a quarterback,

5375
03:58:06,520 --> 03:58:11,480
Speaker 5: but his strong program. He can take him. And I think, Fred,

5376
03:58:11,520 --> 03:58:14,160
Speaker 5: you might be right, like this might end up being

5377
03:58:14,240 --> 03:58:16,560
Speaker 5: something that could be beneficial for him if he allows

5378
03:58:16,600 --> 03:58:18,920
Speaker 5: it to be and have it humble him.

5379
03:58:18,800 --> 03:58:19,880
Speaker 4: A little bit. Yeah.

5380
03:58:20,400 --> 03:58:22,400
Speaker 5: And then for any of these people that are talking

5381
03:58:22,440 --> 03:58:28,240
Speaker 5: about how poorly he interviewed, you can't interview poorly in

5382
03:58:28,360 --> 03:58:31,920
Speaker 5: that regard after getting you know, you know, snubbed for

5383
03:58:32,640 --> 03:58:36,920
Speaker 5: three rounds. Right, So maybe Pittsburgh looks to pick him up.

5384
03:58:36,960 --> 03:58:39,680
Speaker 5: And you know, even if they do end up signing

5385
03:58:40,200 --> 03:58:42,520
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers, you know, it's only a one year thing

5386
03:58:42,800 --> 03:58:44,760
Speaker 5: more than likely. So you let him learn and let

5387
03:58:44,840 --> 03:58:47,600
Speaker 5: him be humble, yep, and let him, you know, get

5388
03:58:47,680 --> 03:58:49,480
Speaker 5: himself prepared under a guy like like.

5389
03:58:50,160 --> 03:58:52,680
Speaker 4: Let's go to James White. Yeah, at the podium, he's

5390
03:58:53,000 --> 03:58:56,200
Speaker 4: going to be announcing the Patriots pickerta to see them right.

5391
03:58:56,120 --> 03:58:59,280
Speaker 17: Now as the pass ninety fifth overall selection.

5392
03:59:00,080 --> 03:59:01,200
Speaker 4: What's going on Wesco?

5393
03:59:03,800 --> 03:59:03,920
Speaker 10: Oh?

5394
03:59:04,040 --> 03:59:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the ninety fifth pick in the twenty.

5395
03:59:06,640 --> 03:59:10,960
Speaker 20: Twenty five NFL Draft the sixth time Super Bowl champion

5396
03:59:11,320 --> 03:59:15,240
Speaker 20: New England, Pagris select Jared Wilson center Georgia.

5397
03:59:16,040 --> 03:59:16,560
Speaker 5: Oh, this is so.

5398
03:59:18,680 --> 03:59:21,400
Speaker 4: We talked about it. Could they take a center in

5399
03:59:21,520 --> 03:59:25,160
Speaker 4: the third round and they did? They stick to offense. Dudes,

5400
03:59:25,240 --> 03:59:26,800
Speaker 4: I'm sorry now, it is what it is.

5401
03:59:26,840 --> 03:59:27,280
Speaker 1: That's all right.

5402
03:59:27,320 --> 03:59:29,160
Speaker 7: I mean I do think I mean I would almost

5403
03:59:29,200 --> 03:59:31,760
Speaker 7: put the need at center vaguely in the position of

5404
03:59:32,320 --> 03:59:36,040
Speaker 7: where the edge need is. But I think at this

5405
03:59:36,200 --> 03:59:38,440
Speaker 7: point this is the kind of position where I think

5406
03:59:38,480 --> 03:59:41,480
Speaker 7: I'd rather they go and get the player and not

5407
03:59:41,960 --> 03:59:44,280
Speaker 7: kind of sit there and wait. We've talked a lot

5408
03:59:44,360 --> 03:59:46,760
Speaker 7: about the depth that they have there, but is there

5409
03:59:46,840 --> 03:59:47,840
Speaker 7: really any depth there?

5410
03:59:47,920 --> 03:59:51,560
Speaker 1: We don't know for sure. You know, behind Bradbury, what

5411
03:59:51,960 --> 03:59:54,440
Speaker 1: they have in Cole Strange, you know what they might

5412
03:59:54,520 --> 03:59:55,440
Speaker 1: have in Jake Andrews.

5413
03:59:56,360 --> 03:59:59,200
Speaker 5: So they don't have a ton invested in Bradbury. It's

5414
03:59:59,200 --> 04:00:01,640
Speaker 5: a two year deal, there's some guaranteed money. It's like

5415
04:00:01,720 --> 04:00:04,000
Speaker 5: three million. He's going to be on the team, yeah,

5416
04:00:04,080 --> 04:00:07,160
Speaker 5: you know, barring something you know, unforeseen. But goes back

5417
04:00:07,200 --> 04:00:09,520
Speaker 5: to Fred's thing last night, like if they it might

5418
04:00:09,600 --> 04:00:11,400
Speaker 5: have been early tonight. I don't know. It all blends together.

5419
04:00:11,400 --> 04:00:12,400
Speaker 1: We run there so long.

5420
04:00:13,440 --> 04:00:16,920
Speaker 5: If they took a if they took a center, you know,

5421
04:00:17,160 --> 04:00:19,680
Speaker 5: is that like a plug and play kind of a move.

5422
04:00:19,840 --> 04:00:22,840
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think this competition. I mean, do I

5423
04:00:22,920 --> 04:00:25,360
Speaker 5: think that Garrett Bradbury is the starting center? Yes, I do.

5424
04:00:25,840 --> 04:00:28,680
Speaker 5: But if this kid comes in and he's he's really

5425
04:00:28,760 --> 04:00:32,440
Speaker 5: good and he makes Bradbury expendable, I don't. I don't

5426
04:00:32,440 --> 04:00:34,640
Speaker 5: think that that's out of the Roman possibility Fred's theory.

5427
04:00:35,400 --> 04:00:35,440
Speaker 10: No.

5428
04:00:35,680 --> 04:00:38,480
Speaker 7: I mean it's look, Patriots no strangers to having centers

5429
04:00:38,520 --> 04:00:40,200
Speaker 7: come in and start as rookies, right, And I think.

5430
04:00:40,120 --> 04:00:43,920
Speaker 5: Evan you probably were right. They're moving down with a

5431
04:00:44,000 --> 04:00:46,440
Speaker 5: n eye on a player that they probably knew a

5432
04:00:46,600 --> 04:00:48,440
Speaker 5: center is going to be available. Yeah.

5433
04:00:48,640 --> 04:00:52,400
Speaker 8: So I really thought that Jared Wilson uh graded out

5434
04:00:52,440 --> 04:00:55,080
Speaker 8: really highly for me. I mean he was my sixty sixth,

5435
04:00:55,400 --> 04:00:59,280
Speaker 8: sixty seventh player on the board. Obviously he plays center,

5436
04:00:59,360 --> 04:01:02,800
Speaker 8: so you know, probably docks them around or so there

5437
04:01:02,880 --> 04:01:07,320
Speaker 8: with that, but a fantastic combine nine point nine to

5438
04:01:07,360 --> 04:01:10,960
Speaker 8: eight relative athletics scorer out of ten. That's elite athleticism

5439
04:01:11,040 --> 04:01:15,160
Speaker 8: at the position. Wide body, good athlete, stout, anchor to

5440
04:01:15,360 --> 04:01:17,880
Speaker 8: them and pass protection, you know, and head up rushers,

5441
04:01:17,920 --> 04:01:20,480
Speaker 8: you know, zero technique nose tackles, try to bowl rush

5442
04:01:20,520 --> 04:01:22,760
Speaker 8: him and push them in the pocket box with a

5443
04:01:22,840 --> 04:01:25,720
Speaker 8: nice low center of gravity. I really think this is

5444
04:01:25,800 --> 04:01:29,080
Speaker 8: a starting center of the future, like a guy that

5445
04:01:29,160 --> 04:01:33,200
Speaker 8: has starting center caliber upside. Now, he only started one

5446
04:01:33,280 --> 04:01:35,920
Speaker 8: year at Georgia, so you know, the Garrett Bradbury of

5447
04:01:36,000 --> 04:01:40,120
Speaker 8: it all, he's a pretty inexperienced player, especially for his center.

5448
04:01:40,240 --> 04:01:44,360
Speaker 8: You know, centers usually you hear about centers have been

5449
04:01:44,440 --> 04:01:47,360
Speaker 8: starting forty fifty games in college and you know their

5450
04:01:47,440 --> 04:01:50,280
Speaker 8: cerebral and they understand how to run the line of

5451
04:01:50,320 --> 04:01:52,600
Speaker 8: scrimmage and how to communicate pre snap and do all

5452
04:01:52,680 --> 04:01:55,640
Speaker 8: that different type of stuff. So for now, Jared Wilson

5453
04:01:56,040 --> 04:01:58,320
Speaker 8: is you know, a guy that maybe they develop in

5454
04:01:58,400 --> 04:02:01,880
Speaker 8: the short term and maybe get him in there midway

5455
04:02:01,920 --> 04:02:04,360
Speaker 8: through the season, late rookie season, maybe even your two

5456
04:02:04,480 --> 04:02:09,120
Speaker 8: and like Garrett Wilson, Garrett Wilson, Garrett Bradbury, show him

5457
04:02:09,160 --> 04:02:11,720
Speaker 8: the rope. I don't think he can play guard. That

5458
04:02:12,240 --> 04:02:15,000
Speaker 8: would be the one thing that I would say, Now,

5459
04:02:15,680 --> 04:02:18,000
Speaker 8: could he play it? And could they give him a chance? Like,

5460
04:02:18,360 --> 04:02:20,120
Speaker 8: of course they could always give it and play it

5461
04:02:20,200 --> 04:02:22,960
Speaker 8: a chance, But I had him as a center. Dan

5462
04:02:23,040 --> 04:02:25,600
Speaker 8: Bruger had him as a center. Pretty much everybody you

5463
04:02:25,960 --> 04:02:29,560
Speaker 8: you know, look across the board, everybody in the draft

5464
04:02:29,560 --> 04:02:32,080
Speaker 8: community had him as a center. So I think he

5465
04:02:32,200 --> 04:02:34,840
Speaker 8: is a true center prospect. But like I said, it's

5466
04:02:35,120 --> 04:02:36,680
Speaker 8: what I like about it is that you know, you

5467
04:02:36,760 --> 04:02:39,720
Speaker 8: have Garrett Bradbery right now that can start day one,

5468
04:02:39,960 --> 04:02:42,880
Speaker 8: you know, week one in September, and then Jarrett Wilson's

5469
04:02:42,920 --> 04:02:46,400
Speaker 8: got that upside and got that physical tools to potentially

5470
04:02:46,480 --> 04:02:49,600
Speaker 8: be the starter in year two or maybe halfway through

5471
04:02:49,640 --> 04:02:52,040
Speaker 8: his rookie season or something like that. Yeah, but he's

5472
04:02:52,080 --> 04:02:55,080
Speaker 8: got upside. I think he's got tremendous upside with that athleticism.

5473
04:02:55,680 --> 04:02:58,120
Speaker 4: Logan and Myrtle Beach right, Sid, I don't understand how

5474
04:02:58,200 --> 04:03:00,920
Speaker 4: you can't like this draft. They acknowledged and went for

5475
04:03:01,040 --> 04:03:04,240
Speaker 4: guys that positions of need. Given not every prospect will hit,

5476
04:03:04,360 --> 04:03:07,080
Speaker 4: but the guys they've taken fit obvious holes they had

5477
04:03:07,160 --> 04:03:09,440
Speaker 4: on the roster. I think they couldn't have done much

5478
04:03:09,480 --> 04:03:12,320
Speaker 4: better with the issues they needed to fix. LFG Go

5479
04:03:12,640 --> 04:03:13,560
Speaker 4: Patriots Nation.

5480
04:03:14,080 --> 04:03:15,880
Speaker 5: I think we're all in the same patro change.

5481
04:03:15,960 --> 04:03:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, just except for the edge position.

5482
04:03:17,400 --> 04:03:17,880
Speaker 4: But that's fine.

5483
04:03:18,040 --> 04:03:20,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, the one thing you know about

5484
04:03:20,080 --> 04:03:23,120
Speaker 8: this pick to douce his point over there. You know,

5485
04:03:23,480 --> 04:03:27,080
Speaker 8: I don't know if Jared Wilson is an immediate contributor.

5486
04:03:27,160 --> 04:03:28,640
Speaker 8: You know, I think the first three picks that they

5487
04:03:28,720 --> 04:03:32,200
Speaker 8: made are certainly the first two or immediate contributors. My

5488
04:03:32,280 --> 04:03:35,560
Speaker 8: guess is that Jared Wilson is more of a developmental play.

5489
04:03:35,640 --> 04:03:37,360
Speaker 8: You know, he's a younger player. Like I said, he

5490
04:03:37,440 --> 04:03:40,080
Speaker 8: hasn't started a ton of games. That's not a position

5491
04:03:40,160 --> 04:03:41,920
Speaker 8: that you know you're gonna make all the line calls

5492
04:03:41,960 --> 04:03:43,840
Speaker 8: and do all You don't just throw those guys into

5493
04:03:43,880 --> 04:03:46,640
Speaker 8: the into the fire too often at that spot. So

5494
04:03:47,080 --> 04:03:48,720
Speaker 8: this is the first one out of the guys that

5495
04:03:48,800 --> 04:03:51,480
Speaker 8: they've taken that I feel like is we're more talking

5496
04:03:51,480 --> 04:03:54,320
Speaker 8: about the long game with a guy like Jared Wilson.

5497
04:03:55,160 --> 04:03:58,800
Speaker 4: Gary and Ireland. Jared Wilson not the sexy pick, but

5498
04:03:59,000 --> 04:04:01,520
Speaker 4: a very good pick. He'll be there at center for

5499
04:04:01,640 --> 04:04:02,640
Speaker 4: the next ten years.

5500
04:04:04,440 --> 04:04:06,640
Speaker 5: I don't know about ten years, but people love to

5501
04:04:07,160 --> 04:04:09,960
Speaker 5: use that line and it makes me laugh. For the

5502
04:04:10,120 --> 04:04:12,080
Speaker 5: next decade, Well, you just pencil them in for the

5503
04:04:12,160 --> 04:04:15,120
Speaker 5: next ten years again about it? Like you see these

5504
04:04:15,200 --> 04:04:18,840
Speaker 5: poor guys like Ryan Ramschiks for like New Orleans excellent

5505
04:04:18,880 --> 04:04:21,080
Speaker 5: offensive lineman. He just had to retire because it's like

5506
04:04:21,160 --> 04:04:23,200
Speaker 5: kneezer shot. He's been in the league like seven years.

5507
04:04:23,360 --> 04:04:25,480
Speaker 4: I know, but you do realize that this is a

5508
04:04:25,520 --> 04:04:26,560
Speaker 4: show for Patriots fans.

5509
04:04:26,640 --> 04:04:28,400
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no. But I'm just saying, like, do

5510
04:04:28,480 --> 04:04:30,440
Speaker 5: you know how hard it is to play for ten years?

5511
04:04:31,840 --> 04:04:34,280
Speaker 5: That's what my point is, not that these guys aren't

5512
04:04:34,280 --> 04:04:38,000
Speaker 5: good players in the NFL right and nowadays like they're

5513
04:04:38,000 --> 04:04:40,000
Speaker 5: starting to make money so they don't have to play

5514
04:04:40,040 --> 04:04:45,000
Speaker 5: that long like that offensive lineman, especially Emery Ratt wants to.

5515
04:04:45,040 --> 04:04:48,040
Speaker 4: Know, does this mean cole Strange goes back to left guard?

5516
04:04:48,800 --> 04:04:50,920
Speaker 8: I think that Cole Strange is going back to left

5517
04:04:50,920 --> 04:04:53,760
Speaker 8: guard regardless. You know, I thought, I've thought since the

5518
04:04:54,080 --> 04:04:57,200
Speaker 8: moment they signed Bradberry that he was the leader in

5519
04:04:57,280 --> 04:04:59,800
Speaker 8: the clubhouse to be the starting center unless he had

5520
04:05:00,120 --> 04:05:02,640
Speaker 8: like a real drop off in training camp and was really,

5521
04:05:02,880 --> 04:05:04,880
Speaker 8: you know, having a tough time of it in training camp.

5522
04:05:05,000 --> 04:05:08,920
Speaker 8: So that guard competition, you know, it's it's Robinson, it's

5523
04:05:09,040 --> 04:05:11,680
Speaker 8: Cold Strange, it's City. So right now, I think one

5524
04:05:11,760 --> 04:05:14,240
Speaker 8: of those three guys they hope we'll emerge out of

5525
04:05:14,280 --> 04:05:16,920
Speaker 8: the out of the the camp battle.

5526
04:05:16,680 --> 04:05:17,680
Speaker 1: A couple just beasts.

5527
04:05:17,680 --> 04:05:19,520
Speaker 7: No, sorry, Evan, if I didn't, if I didn't hear

5528
04:05:19,560 --> 04:05:22,680
Speaker 7: you mentioned this, but led all offensive linemen in the

5529
04:05:22,720 --> 04:05:24,520
Speaker 7: forty yard, dashed to the combine four point y four

5530
04:05:24,600 --> 04:05:27,600
Speaker 7: and hit twenty one point zero four miles per hour,

5531
04:05:27,680 --> 04:05:29,120
Speaker 7: the fastest ever for a center.

5532
04:05:29,280 --> 04:05:30,840
Speaker 1: So we can run. He'll be running up those hills

5533
04:05:30,880 --> 04:05:32,400
Speaker 1: pretty good, pretty fast.

5534
04:05:32,800 --> 04:05:34,360
Speaker 8: Okay, little nuggets.

5535
04:05:34,360 --> 04:05:34,840
Speaker 5: So we got that.

5536
04:05:34,880 --> 04:05:36,680
Speaker 1: Go on gets from the beast, which is nice. Which

5537
04:05:36,760 --> 04:05:37,840
Speaker 1: is nice, be running.

5538
04:05:37,640 --> 04:05:42,400
Speaker 4: Fast, little run on safeties Xavier Watts, we talked about him,

5539
04:05:42,480 --> 04:05:47,000
Speaker 4: Notre Dame. Then Jalen Smith from USC earlier, Jonas Sanker

5540
04:05:47,080 --> 04:05:51,080
Speaker 4: from Virginia. So three out of the last six picks

5541
04:05:51,120 --> 04:05:51,880
Speaker 4: were safeties.

5542
04:05:52,720 --> 04:05:55,840
Speaker 5: There's Jonas soft j yogging.

5543
04:05:56,920 --> 04:05:59,040
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding, Raiders have two picks.

5544
04:05:59,040 --> 04:06:00,360
Speaker 5: I'm not completely out of the San.

5545
04:06:00,280 --> 04:06:04,160
Speaker 4: Francisco's got to pick the Eagles and then Minnesota and

5546
04:06:04,240 --> 04:06:07,160
Speaker 4: that closes out the third round. So we're getting close.

5547
04:06:10,240 --> 04:06:13,680
Speaker 4: Let's see. Jeremiah says, I don't understand the Sanders fall.

5548
04:06:14,280 --> 04:06:17,080
Speaker 4: I can someone understand the argument for Jackson Dart being better,

5549
04:06:17,280 --> 04:06:19,560
Speaker 4: but I don't see it. Every other backup after that.

5550
04:06:19,960 --> 04:06:23,120
Speaker 4: Just seems like the league has this unreal dislike for him.

5551
04:06:23,800 --> 04:06:27,560
Speaker 4: It would seem that way for whatever reason that dislike.

5552
04:06:27,920 --> 04:06:31,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think it's born out of ability, because

5553
04:06:31,560 --> 04:06:34,760
Speaker 5: I don't think you just don't take like three rounds in, right,

5554
04:06:35,200 --> 04:06:38,640
Speaker 5: you know, just because you don't like someone. Yeah, like

5555
04:06:38,760 --> 04:06:41,320
Speaker 5: that might be why Aaron Rodgers dropped from the top

5556
04:06:41,360 --> 04:06:42,880
Speaker 5: of the first round to like the middle of the

5557
04:06:42,920 --> 04:06:44,560
Speaker 5: first round or the end of the first round, because

5558
04:06:44,960 --> 04:06:48,000
Speaker 5: he rubbed people the wrong way. But obviously the ability

5559
04:06:48,040 --> 04:06:50,000
Speaker 5: is we're gonna take him. He's too good to pass up.

5560
04:06:50,120 --> 04:06:50,800
Speaker 5: Someone took him.

5561
04:06:50,840 --> 04:06:58,280
Speaker 4: He's a super athlete. All right, Let's see for Deuce.

5562
04:06:59,080 --> 04:07:02,040
Speaker 4: Ethan says, Sand's actually had a draft room built for

5563
04:07:02,120 --> 04:07:04,280
Speaker 4: the draft. It's on Twitter. Check it out.

5564
04:07:04,480 --> 04:07:07,240
Speaker 1: Really, you could shot him just sitting in there and

5565
04:07:07,280 --> 04:07:09,240
Speaker 1: by himself right now. But I don't know.

5566
04:07:09,360 --> 04:07:15,000
Speaker 7: I mean, interesting guy, and I just love to see

5567
04:07:15,280 --> 04:07:17,640
Speaker 7: people put in challenging situations, and that seems like this

5568
04:07:17,840 --> 04:07:20,280
Speaker 7: is kind of like the exact kind of challenge that

5569
04:07:20,520 --> 04:07:23,040
Speaker 7: should or Sanders needed. And I don't know, maybe maybe

5570
04:07:23,080 --> 04:07:24,520
Speaker 7: the best will come out of this, Maybe he'll be

5571
04:07:24,600 --> 04:07:26,880
Speaker 7: humbled a little bit, and you know, he'll come in

5572
04:07:26,960 --> 04:07:28,600
Speaker 7: and then he'll keep his mouth shut and work hard,

5573
04:07:28,640 --> 04:07:29,640
Speaker 7: and then that's what teams.

5574
04:07:29,440 --> 04:07:31,320
Speaker 5: Are hoping for, that's what he needs to do.

5575
04:07:31,480 --> 04:07:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I hope. I think teams are probably

5576
04:07:33,520 --> 04:07:36,040
Speaker 1: hoping that a he doesn't, you know, get.

5577
04:07:35,960 --> 04:07:38,880
Speaker 7: Drafted in whatever day three somewhere and still come in

5578
04:07:39,040 --> 04:07:42,200
Speaker 7: with that kind of confidence on his shoulder. But also

5579
04:07:42,240 --> 04:07:44,520
Speaker 7: too that the fan base doesn't do like we talked

5580
04:07:44,520 --> 04:07:47,360
Speaker 7: about before the show with Malie Cunningham and with Joe Milton,

5581
04:07:47,840 --> 04:07:50,400
Speaker 7: that there's always an intrigue with the backup quarterback and

5582
04:07:51,000 --> 04:07:53,200
Speaker 7: the second there's some kind of you know, something going

5583
04:07:53,240 --> 04:07:54,960
Speaker 7: on with the starting quarterback. It's going to start with

5584
04:07:55,040 --> 04:07:57,080
Speaker 7: drum beats, and you know, are there going to be

5585
04:07:57,200 --> 04:07:59,600
Speaker 7: fans of this team even though should Er sanders Fellow

5586
04:07:59,600 --> 04:08:01,040
Speaker 7: the third round on the NFL tells you what they

5587
04:08:01,080 --> 04:08:02,720
Speaker 7: think of his potential at least out of the gate,

5588
04:08:03,240 --> 04:08:04,960
Speaker 7: and still kind of like expect him to be like, well,

5589
04:08:04,960 --> 04:08:06,400
Speaker 7: they got him waiting, let's get him in now, you

5590
04:08:06,480 --> 04:08:07,160
Speaker 7: know that kind of thing.

5591
04:08:08,000 --> 04:08:10,880
Speaker 4: Let's see, let's go to the phone and we'll go

5592
04:08:11,160 --> 04:08:15,640
Speaker 4: to Alex in San Francisco. What's up, Alex?

5593
04:08:16,000 --> 04:08:19,000
Speaker 1: I got a lot of Freezency, alex.

5594
04:08:20,960 --> 04:08:21,640
Speaker 4: Is alex there.

5595
04:08:22,760 --> 04:08:25,200
Speaker 7: It was like me last night with the Peterski Your

5596
04:08:25,240 --> 04:08:27,480
Speaker 7: line should have been you got Milton Williams, just shut up.

5597
04:08:28,200 --> 04:08:31,280
Speaker 4: You got a lot more than Milton Williams gave and Maine.

5598
04:08:31,320 --> 04:08:33,120
Speaker 4: I love this draft so far. It seems like the

5599
04:08:33,200 --> 04:08:36,120
Speaker 4: team finally realized that the days of finding diamonds in

5600
04:08:36,160 --> 04:08:40,000
Speaker 4: the rough are over. Rabel probably gave Elliott one pick

5601
04:08:40,200 --> 04:08:42,320
Speaker 4: to use as he sees fit, and that's how they

5602
04:08:42,360 --> 04:08:45,200
Speaker 4: got the wide receiver. Rabel made the rest of the

5603
04:08:45,280 --> 04:08:47,880
Speaker 4: picks and went with guys that are good at football.

5604
04:08:48,280 --> 04:08:50,920
Speaker 4: Now pick Sanders as the late round quarterback and we'll

5605
04:08:50,960 --> 04:08:53,160
Speaker 4: be all set. I think he's kidding. I hope.

5606
04:08:54,960 --> 04:08:57,640
Speaker 8: I don't know who's making the picks, but I keep

5607
04:08:57,720 --> 04:08:59,880
Speaker 8: saying I just love that they stuck to the board,

5608
04:09:00,200 --> 04:09:03,240
Speaker 8: like we still have not had a Patriot reach yet

5609
04:09:03,480 --> 04:09:06,200
Speaker 8: and that that is just awesome, Like that's great. Like

5610
04:09:06,320 --> 04:09:09,400
Speaker 8: Jared Wilson. I just looked it up. Dame Bruger had

5611
04:09:09,440 --> 04:09:11,000
Speaker 8: a second round grade on Jared Wilson.

5612
04:09:11,080 --> 04:09:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

5613
04:09:12,240 --> 04:09:14,320
Speaker 8: He had him firmly in the top one hundred.

5614
04:09:14,200 --> 04:09:17,880
Speaker 5: So he has him on his beasts at fifty seven.

5615
04:09:18,400 --> 04:09:19,600
Speaker 8: I had him at sixty something.

5616
04:09:19,680 --> 04:09:23,240
Speaker 5: Now on the other side, Kyle Williams was down in

5617
04:09:23,320 --> 04:09:26,920
Speaker 5: the nineties ninety one, but still in the same round. Yeah,

5618
04:09:27,200 --> 04:09:30,560
Speaker 5: you know, so like we're not talking about like Tevon

5619
04:09:30,640 --> 04:09:31,680
Speaker 5: Wilson kind.

5620
04:09:31,560 --> 04:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Of you know, like what Jordan Richards, you know where

5621
04:09:34,920 --> 04:09:37,720
Speaker 1: the rounds off, that's where they belong. I mean, they're

5622
04:09:37,720 --> 04:09:39,400
Speaker 1: all cold strange easy.

5623
04:09:39,520 --> 04:09:41,680
Speaker 7: When these guys have all been picked, it's been easy

5624
04:09:41,760 --> 04:09:43,960
Speaker 7: for us to say, this is why they made the pick,

5625
04:09:44,120 --> 04:09:46,240
Speaker 7: this is how they fit in, this is why we're

5626
04:09:46,280 --> 04:09:47,040
Speaker 7: excited about it.

5627
04:09:47,640 --> 04:09:48,640
Speaker 1: And I think in the in.

5628
04:09:48,720 --> 04:09:50,480
Speaker 7: Years past, there have been picks that have been really

5629
04:09:50,520 --> 04:09:53,440
Speaker 7: hard to explain it or even to ourselves understand, Like

5630
04:09:53,520 --> 04:09:54,560
Speaker 7: why why cold strange?

5631
04:09:54,600 --> 04:09:57,000
Speaker 1: Right here, I explain it to me. I don't understand it.

5632
04:09:57,480 --> 04:09:59,920
Speaker 7: But there's no explanation needed for the picks that they've made.

5633
04:10:00,080 --> 04:10:03,400
Speaker 7: I think they all are seriously going to help this offense,

5634
04:10:03,480 --> 04:10:04,920
Speaker 7: and I hope that they're going to be able to

5635
04:10:04,960 --> 04:10:06,800
Speaker 7: get them out of the basement because that's what they

5636
04:10:06,800 --> 04:10:07,440
Speaker 7: were last year.

5637
04:10:07,520 --> 04:10:09,040
Speaker 1: So they've got some options to play with.

5638
04:10:09,320 --> 04:10:11,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, the only position. And I don't mean to keep

5639
04:10:11,360 --> 04:10:14,560
Speaker 8: on supporting deuce over here, Like I one of those six.

5640
04:10:14,680 --> 04:10:17,320
Speaker 8: I really feel like the cherry on top right now

5641
04:10:17,360 --> 04:10:19,360
Speaker 8: would be an edge rusher, like just to add one

5642
04:10:19,400 --> 04:10:22,160
Speaker 8: of these guys that's going to slip through the cracks

5643
04:10:22,200 --> 04:10:25,560
Speaker 8: here in the third round. You know, Jack Sawyer still there.

5644
04:10:25,440 --> 04:10:26,520
Speaker 1: At at Jack Sawyer right now.

5645
04:10:27,080 --> 04:10:30,480
Speaker 7: I mean, just again, like Rabel, what I like about

5646
04:10:30,480 --> 04:10:32,640
Speaker 7: this is just going back to when they signed those

5647
04:10:32,680 --> 04:10:34,440
Speaker 7: free agents and we met those free agents, and you

5648
04:10:34,640 --> 04:10:37,000
Speaker 7: watch how Robert Spoline plays, and you watch how Milton

5649
04:10:37,040 --> 04:10:39,480
Speaker 7: Williams plays, and then you look how all of these

5650
04:10:39,520 --> 04:10:42,280
Speaker 7: players play, and you talk to will Campbell today sitting here,

5651
04:10:43,000 --> 04:10:44,920
Speaker 7: and it's clear that they have a type.

5652
04:10:45,240 --> 04:10:47,400
Speaker 1: They know what they want and they're trying to build.

5653
04:10:47,440 --> 04:10:50,200
Speaker 7: And I think, you know my experience professionally when you

5654
04:10:50,280 --> 04:10:52,240
Speaker 7: actually know that there's a vision and somebody you know,

5655
04:10:52,400 --> 04:10:53,960
Speaker 7: driving the bus and saying this is the kind of

5656
04:10:54,000 --> 04:10:55,560
Speaker 7: guys I want, this is how I want to play.

5657
04:10:56,040 --> 04:10:57,640
Speaker 7: You know, ve Abel talk to the fans up at

5658
04:10:57,640 --> 04:10:58,800
Speaker 7: the party said, you know, we're going to be the

5659
04:10:58,880 --> 04:11:01,520
Speaker 7: kind of team that you guys understand and can get behind.

5660
04:11:01,320 --> 04:11:03,040
Speaker 1: Them, be proud of. And you know we have a style.

5661
04:11:03,520 --> 04:11:05,680
Speaker 7: And I think you just you see that coming to Fruition.

5662
04:11:06,080 --> 04:11:08,120
Speaker 7: It has to translate onto the field. Of course, that's

5663
04:11:08,160 --> 04:11:10,600
Speaker 7: what's important. But I just think all these pieces, they

5664
04:11:10,600 --> 04:11:12,760
Speaker 7: all fit together into a puzzle, and it's it's easy

5665
04:11:12,840 --> 04:11:15,160
Speaker 7: to see the picture that Mike Rabel and company are

5666
04:11:15,160 --> 04:11:15,640
Speaker 7: putting together.

5667
04:11:15,840 --> 04:11:20,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is. You know, all all coaches want that

5668
04:11:21,040 --> 04:11:23,800
Speaker 4: they want to build a culture, they want guys to

5669
04:11:23,880 --> 04:11:26,480
Speaker 4: be proud of playing for the team and and all that,

5670
04:11:26,760 --> 04:11:31,800
Speaker 4: but not all that they can do it, you know obviously.

5671
04:11:31,720 --> 04:11:33,760
Speaker 1: So it's hard. I mean, I think you need to

5672
04:11:33,800 --> 04:11:35,360
Speaker 1: have a you know, a unity of vision.

5673
04:11:35,400 --> 04:11:37,520
Speaker 7: You need somebody at the top of the pyramid that

5674
04:11:37,560 --> 04:11:41,640
Speaker 7: can really communicate what they want, and you have people

5675
04:11:41,760 --> 04:11:43,600
Speaker 7: below you that understand.

5676
04:11:43,200 --> 04:11:45,680
Speaker 1: And support what you're looking for as well. So it's

5677
04:11:45,720 --> 04:11:46,360
Speaker 1: just it seems like.

5678
04:11:46,400 --> 04:11:48,760
Speaker 7: They've they've really had a good first off season here

5679
04:11:48,840 --> 04:11:51,640
Speaker 7: under Mike Rabel and you know, to reset, recalibrate the

5680
04:11:51,680 --> 04:11:54,840
Speaker 7: whole direction of the franchise. And I would hope that

5681
04:11:55,000 --> 04:11:56,840
Speaker 7: that Patriot fans out there, I would hope the majority

5682
04:11:56,840 --> 04:11:57,720
Speaker 7: of them are pretty excited.

5683
04:11:57,800 --> 04:11:58,920
Speaker 1: It's it's it seems hard to.

5684
04:11:58,960 --> 04:12:02,240
Speaker 7: Be you know, miss after this offseason between Milton Williams,

5685
04:12:02,480 --> 04:12:05,760
Speaker 7: Stefan Diggs, you know, Will Campbell up top the Kyle Williams,

5686
04:12:05,800 --> 04:12:08,480
Speaker 7: the guy we talked about for what two hours leading

5687
04:12:08,560 --> 04:12:10,080
Speaker 7: up to when they finally took him. We had no

5688
04:12:10,200 --> 04:12:12,480
Speaker 7: idea that they liked him as much as we did.

5689
04:12:12,840 --> 04:12:14,560
Speaker 7: You know, It's just it's it's all coming together. It's

5690
04:12:14,600 --> 04:12:15,640
Speaker 7: it's pretty exciting.

5691
04:12:15,360 --> 04:12:19,160
Speaker 4: To see three more picks, and then this round is over.

5692
04:12:19,360 --> 04:12:22,040
Speaker 4: The forty nine ers pick is in or no, they're

5693
04:12:22,080 --> 04:12:25,240
Speaker 4: on the clock, but probably in. Then it's the Eagles

5694
04:12:25,280 --> 04:12:25,920
Speaker 4: and the Vikings.

5695
04:12:26,400 --> 04:12:26,480
Speaker 10: Uh.

5696
04:12:26,640 --> 04:12:28,960
Speaker 4: And then we're supposed to be talking to Ryan Cowden,

5697
04:12:29,160 --> 04:12:30,800
Speaker 4: so right after.

5698
04:12:30,840 --> 04:12:32,360
Speaker 5: I don't worried about that at the stitch.

5699
04:12:33,000 --> 04:12:35,520
Speaker 4: No, yeah, last night I heard it was still happening.

5700
04:12:35,640 --> 04:12:37,760
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, keep us trying to trade it. He

5701
04:12:37,760 --> 04:12:39,200
Speaker 1: wants me, he wants that last two picks.

5702
04:12:39,320 --> 04:12:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well you never know, they could trade

5703
04:12:41,280 --> 04:12:42,160
Speaker 4: back up. Who knows.

5704
04:12:42,560 --> 04:12:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, I take it get a

5705
04:12:44,160 --> 04:12:47,200
Speaker 1: couple of fifth rounders tomorrow, you know, yeah.

5706
04:12:47,240 --> 04:12:49,440
Speaker 8: I do wonder. You know, there was a lot of

5707
04:12:49,520 --> 04:12:52,680
Speaker 8: conversation about like who was truly running this draft, right,

5708
04:12:52,760 --> 04:12:55,240
Speaker 8: you know, who was really the guy that was making uh,

5709
04:12:55,680 --> 04:12:59,120
Speaker 8: these these final picks. And I got to say, like

5710
04:12:59,160 --> 04:13:02,520
Speaker 8: a lot of these guys is like feel like Rabel picks,

5711
04:13:02,720 --> 04:13:06,440
Speaker 8: you know, and I know that that's sometimes not the

5712
04:13:06,520 --> 04:13:08,640
Speaker 8: best way to read it, but it's just it just

5713
04:13:08,760 --> 04:13:12,000
Speaker 8: feels like, you know, some of these players that they've taken.

5714
04:13:12,160 --> 04:13:13,840
Speaker 8: I mean, it took Campbell, who was just such a

5715
04:13:13,960 --> 04:13:16,400
Speaker 8: Rabel guy from uh through and through, and then they

5716
04:13:16,440 --> 04:13:18,840
Speaker 8: took an Ohio State guy, you know, with the next pick.

5717
04:13:18,960 --> 04:13:21,360
Speaker 8: So like that feels like it, you know, you go

5718
04:13:21,480 --> 04:13:24,400
Speaker 8: back with with the center there in the fourth round,

5719
04:13:24,520 --> 04:13:27,280
Speaker 8: you know, I just I feel like this, you know,

5720
04:13:27,400 --> 04:13:29,600
Speaker 8: to douce his point, a lot of these guys are

5721
04:13:29,640 --> 04:13:32,960
Speaker 8: sort of building that identity and building a vision of

5722
04:13:33,040 --> 04:13:35,040
Speaker 8: the type of players that he's looking for. And you

5723
04:13:35,080 --> 04:13:37,680
Speaker 8: can tell that his fingerprints are all over a lot

5724
04:13:37,760 --> 04:13:40,120
Speaker 8: of these And I said to go back to the trenches,

5725
04:13:40,160 --> 04:13:41,840
Speaker 8: and they did. I didn't think it was going to

5726
04:13:41,840 --> 04:13:43,520
Speaker 8: be a center, to be honest with you, but they

5727
04:13:43,560 --> 04:13:44,640
Speaker 8: did go back to the trenches.

5728
04:13:44,760 --> 04:13:49,800
Speaker 4: So John and La says that pick from k C

5729
04:13:50,680 --> 04:13:53,560
Speaker 4: is I'm told the fourth k C gut from the

5730
04:13:53,640 --> 04:13:56,920
Speaker 4: Bears for Tuny, so it's better than a k C fourth.

5731
04:13:57,080 --> 04:13:58,640
Speaker 4: Can you confirm then discuss?

5732
04:13:59,000 --> 04:13:59,880
Speaker 1: I can't confirm that.

5733
04:14:00,160 --> 04:14:04,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I haven't seen any information yet on which fourth

5734
04:14:04,320 --> 04:14:08,640
Speaker 8: exactly it is, but I'll try to figure that out.

5735
04:14:09,280 --> 04:14:10,760
Speaker 7: I love when you get into the trades and then

5736
04:14:10,800 --> 04:14:12,920
Speaker 7: you start to actually calculate, like, well, how bad are

5737
04:14:12,960 --> 04:14:13,400
Speaker 7: they going to be?

5738
04:14:13,520 --> 04:14:15,520
Speaker 1: Like how good is this going to actually be?

5739
04:14:15,680 --> 04:14:16,160
Speaker 31: In the round?

5740
04:14:16,360 --> 04:14:17,120
Speaker 1: So it matters.

5741
04:14:17,440 --> 04:14:20,720
Speaker 5: They're talking about the future one yeah, and they think

5742
04:14:20,760 --> 04:14:25,800
Speaker 5: at Chicago's So you're assuming Chicago will finish behind Kansas

5743
04:14:25,840 --> 04:14:27,880
Speaker 5: City in terms of record. Maybe it would be a.

5744
04:14:27,920 --> 04:14:30,320
Speaker 1: Higher pay, maybe not that far though, it could be

5745
04:14:30,400 --> 04:14:32,160
Speaker 1: thirty two and like twenty seven.

5746
04:14:32,480 --> 04:14:34,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Chicago, I don't know how good they'll be,

5747
04:14:34,680 --> 04:14:36,840
Speaker 5: but they should be better. I mean, what do they

5748
04:14:36,920 --> 04:14:41,400
Speaker 5: they would ten this year in the draft? Yeah, they should.

5749
04:14:41,480 --> 04:14:42,160
Speaker 5: They should improve.

5750
04:14:42,760 --> 04:14:45,720
Speaker 4: David in Madrid loving this draft. If the Patriots get

5751
04:14:45,800 --> 04:14:48,840
Speaker 4: the massive Holland Pierce, the big ex Thornton Junior, and

5752
04:14:48,920 --> 04:14:52,000
Speaker 4: a tight end like Gunner Helm, I'll give this draft

5753
04:14:52,040 --> 04:14:54,840
Speaker 4: a ten out of ten. An edge guy from Mike

5754
04:14:54,960 --> 04:14:58,080
Speaker 4: that I like as a lottery pick is Ahmed Hassanane.

5755
04:15:00,040 --> 04:15:00,480
Speaker 4: You heard him.

5756
04:15:00,480 --> 04:15:02,080
Speaker 5: I just threw his hands up in discuss.

5757
04:15:02,160 --> 04:15:02,240
Speaker 10: Now.

5758
04:15:02,440 --> 04:15:02,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

5759
04:15:02,800 --> 04:15:04,240
Speaker 7: I mean we're getting the day three I don't I'm

5760
04:15:04,280 --> 04:15:08,120
Speaker 7: not going to cling to know. Everybody try to get

5761
04:15:08,120 --> 04:15:10,200
Speaker 7: those first, like one hundred picks. Know those pretty well

5762
04:15:10,200 --> 04:15:12,920
Speaker 7: inside and out. But there's a lot of dudes, a

5763
04:15:12,960 --> 04:15:15,080
Speaker 7: lot of dudes, and then you know, on Sunday, get

5764
04:15:15,160 --> 04:15:16,720
Speaker 7: some U DA phase and then you just try to

5765
04:15:16,760 --> 04:15:18,880
Speaker 7: forget everything that you've done the last couple of months.

5766
04:15:19,200 --> 04:15:22,560
Speaker 4: Let's say this is Jessica. She says, I'm the wife

5767
04:15:22,600 --> 04:15:24,640
Speaker 4: of Anthony and Seattle. I saw you guys read his

5768
04:15:24,720 --> 04:15:25,440
Speaker 4: email on air, and.

5769
04:15:25,440 --> 04:15:26,760
Speaker 8: I thought it'd be fun if I could get my

5770
04:15:26,880 --> 04:15:27,640
Speaker 8: email read too.

5771
04:15:28,240 --> 04:15:29,880
Speaker 4: So you just did good for you.

5772
04:15:30,040 --> 04:15:31,520
Speaker 1: J happy couple out in Seattle.

5773
04:15:32,240 --> 04:15:37,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, your husband's name Evan On the phone.

5774
04:15:37,400 --> 04:15:39,880
Speaker 4: On the phone, it's Spee and Fresno. What's up, Spee.

5775
04:15:41,480 --> 04:15:44,760
Speaker 24: Wow, you guys got me a little, a little deep

5776
04:15:44,800 --> 04:15:52,280
Speaker 24: in the bottle, but it's all right. This is great, awesome.

5777
04:15:52,480 --> 04:15:55,200
Speaker 24: I'm happy with the draft. I wanted to It was

5778
04:15:55,280 --> 04:15:58,080
Speaker 24: a little bit too cerebral for the moment, but I

5779
04:15:58,200 --> 04:16:02,160
Speaker 24: wanted to ask. So you know you're thinking that Will Campbell,

5780
04:16:03,800 --> 04:16:06,200
Speaker 24: I guess you're saying that maybe he sets ab outside

5781
04:16:06,240 --> 04:16:10,040
Speaker 24: it's noticeable, and then guys make a little moves inside so.

5782
04:16:10,400 --> 04:16:11,200
Speaker 16: They get around him.

5783
04:16:12,000 --> 04:16:15,600
Speaker 24: If I heard that right, So if if you're trying

5784
04:16:15,640 --> 04:16:18,200
Speaker 24: to scheme for a player in the in the in

5785
04:16:18,280 --> 04:16:20,320
Speaker 24: the first round like that, you're like you're asking coaches

5786
04:16:20,360 --> 04:16:22,760
Speaker 24: to fix a player like that. Is there a downstream

5787
04:16:22,840 --> 04:16:25,280
Speaker 24: effect of that? So you'd almost have to be able

5788
04:16:25,320 --> 04:16:27,760
Speaker 24: to set it and forget it for a premier position

5789
04:16:27,840 --> 04:16:31,320
Speaker 24: in the first round. But like, like if you start

5790
04:16:31,400 --> 04:16:33,920
Speaker 24: to have to sort of scheme around somebody at that position,

5791
04:16:34,440 --> 04:16:36,680
Speaker 24: is there a downstream effect where like now you have

5792
04:16:36,880 --> 04:16:40,320
Speaker 24: you can't make as many adjustments for other guys at

5793
04:16:40,560 --> 04:16:43,720
Speaker 24: you know, maybe on as inherently talented at lower positions.

5794
04:16:43,840 --> 04:16:45,880
Speaker 4: That make sense, Oh it does? I mean, listen, if

5795
04:16:45,920 --> 04:16:47,840
Speaker 4: you have to, like yes, if you have to like

5796
04:16:48,320 --> 04:16:50,760
Speaker 4: help out a tackle or any guy in the line

5797
04:16:51,280 --> 04:16:55,080
Speaker 4: that's taking up a body, that's that's suggesting that's not

5798
04:16:55,600 --> 04:16:58,120
Speaker 4: giving you as many options as you would have otherwise.

5799
04:16:58,640 --> 04:17:02,720
Speaker 4: But hopefully even with you know, if that's true, it's

5800
04:17:02,800 --> 04:17:05,680
Speaker 4: not every game against every player he comes up with.

5801
04:17:06,040 --> 04:17:08,360
Speaker 4: There's just going to be certain players in this league

5802
04:17:08,800 --> 04:17:14,480
Speaker 4: that I think unless you're you know, Jonathan Ogden, you're

5803
04:17:14,520 --> 04:17:16,520
Speaker 4: gonna have trouble with and we you know, we mentioned

5804
04:17:16,600 --> 04:17:19,880
Speaker 4: Matt Light. If you know Matt Light had trouble with

5805
04:17:20,040 --> 04:17:22,800
Speaker 4: Jason Taylor, and I'm sure the Patriots at times had

5806
04:17:22,880 --> 04:17:25,480
Speaker 4: to listen, he's getting killed. We got to help him

5807
04:17:25,480 --> 04:17:29,080
Speaker 4: out here. You know, you can't just like be blind

5808
04:17:29,160 --> 04:17:31,640
Speaker 4: to it. He's going to have trouble against certain guys,

5809
04:17:33,280 --> 04:17:35,600
Speaker 4: you know, at least at first, there's you know, that's

5810
04:17:35,720 --> 04:17:38,440
Speaker 4: just the way it is. And yes, there is a

5811
04:17:38,480 --> 04:17:41,120
Speaker 4: trickle down. You're right, there is, And it's a sacrifice

5812
04:17:41,120 --> 04:17:44,000
Speaker 4: that you make when you when you have to, you know,

5813
04:17:44,360 --> 04:17:48,240
Speaker 4: set leave somebody in for max protect or whatever that

5814
04:17:48,800 --> 04:17:50,880
Speaker 4: that limits your offense. It takes things away.

5815
04:17:51,080 --> 04:17:52,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I can.

5816
04:17:52,480 --> 04:17:53,760
Speaker 24: I guess the idea is that's like if it's a

5817
04:17:53,800 --> 04:17:56,040
Speaker 24: first round pick, you'd hope that you wouldn't have to

5818
04:17:56,120 --> 04:17:57,280
Speaker 24: make that many adjudgments.

5819
04:17:57,360 --> 04:17:59,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, you you hope that you don't have to.

5820
04:18:00,600 --> 04:18:02,520
Speaker 8: You hope you don't have to, man Like, you hope

5821
04:18:02,760 --> 04:18:04,760
Speaker 8: that you don't have to. But like if you do.

5822
04:18:05,320 --> 04:18:07,280
Speaker 8: I'm the only reason why I brought it up is

5823
04:18:07,320 --> 04:18:10,080
Speaker 8: because if you do, it's not impossible to do it.

5824
04:18:10,360 --> 04:18:13,120
Speaker 8: That that's all. That's all I'm saying. I'm not hoping

5825
04:18:13,240 --> 04:18:18,080
Speaker 8: that they're gonna have to do it, isntreams Well, I

5826
04:18:18,120 --> 04:18:20,240
Speaker 8: would say the biggest consequence.

5827
04:18:21,640 --> 04:18:24,160
Speaker 24: That at that point is does that mean like it

5828
04:18:24,280 --> 04:18:25,080
Speaker 24: takes away.

5829
04:18:24,960 --> 04:18:27,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me answer your question, it does. I think

5830
04:18:27,520 --> 04:18:29,560
Speaker 8: the biggest thing that you look at is that if

5831
04:18:29,600 --> 04:18:31,920
Speaker 8: you're the tight end is chipping, then he's not releasing

5832
04:18:32,000 --> 04:18:34,480
Speaker 8: into the pattern right or he's not releasing into the

5833
04:18:34,520 --> 04:18:37,080
Speaker 8: pattern right away, so it's like a chip and release.

5834
04:18:37,160 --> 04:18:40,320
Speaker 8: So basically you're you're running four guys into the pattern,

5835
04:18:40,400 --> 04:18:42,080
Speaker 8: or you're running four and a half if you want

5836
04:18:42,120 --> 04:18:44,600
Speaker 8: to call it that way, because once you chip and release,

5837
04:18:44,640 --> 04:18:46,520
Speaker 8: you're probably only going to release the guy into the

5838
04:18:46,600 --> 04:18:49,040
Speaker 8: flat as kind of like a checkdown on the backside

5839
04:18:49,120 --> 04:18:51,760
Speaker 8: type of thing, So you're you are taking a receiver

5840
04:18:52,440 --> 04:18:56,360
Speaker 8: in theory out of the pattern. But that, like Fred said,

5841
04:18:56,400 --> 04:18:58,840
Speaker 8: it doesn't have to be every single play and it

5842
04:18:58,960 --> 04:19:01,880
Speaker 8: doesn't necessarily have to be at all. The point I

5843
04:19:02,040 --> 04:19:04,080
Speaker 8: was just trying to make was that if it does

5844
04:19:04,200 --> 04:19:06,600
Speaker 8: come to that, that I have faith in the coaching

5845
04:19:06,680 --> 04:19:09,440
Speaker 8: staff that they have now in place, especially Josh, to

5846
04:19:09,560 --> 04:19:11,760
Speaker 8: be able to do stuff like that like they used

5847
04:19:11,760 --> 04:19:13,760
Speaker 8: to do in the past. I mean, there's a million

5848
04:19:13,880 --> 04:19:16,480
Speaker 8: examples of them doing this in the past with Bill

5849
04:19:16,520 --> 04:19:19,480
Speaker 8: where they faced a dominant edge rusher, and they just said,

5850
04:19:19,520 --> 04:19:21,080
Speaker 8: you know, we're going to put two guys on this

5851
04:19:21,200 --> 04:19:23,120
Speaker 8: guy and we're going to make sure that he doesn't

5852
04:19:23,160 --> 04:19:26,200
Speaker 8: wreck the game. You know, It's it's just that's the

5853
04:19:26,240 --> 04:19:28,920
Speaker 8: way it is. You know, some guys are just that great.

5854
04:19:30,320 --> 04:19:31,840
Speaker 13: And then let me ask you one more questions.

5855
04:19:31,880 --> 04:19:33,920
Speaker 24: So, like, given that we just drafted a center, right,

5856
04:19:34,000 --> 04:19:35,680
Speaker 24: and so now we're talking about center a little bit.

5857
04:19:36,040 --> 04:19:38,520
Speaker 24: Like so now we're talking about the left guard helping

5858
04:19:38,720 --> 04:19:42,440
Speaker 24: the left tackle and those specific situations maybe like here

5859
04:19:42,480 --> 04:19:45,080
Speaker 24: and there, but like what what if the center needs

5860
04:19:45,120 --> 04:19:48,040
Speaker 24: them help? You know, what if like what what is

5861
04:19:48,080 --> 04:19:50,760
Speaker 24: the left guard doing to like if the left tackle

5862
04:19:51,240 --> 04:19:54,920
Speaker 24: is dragging the left guard out a little bit of

5863
04:19:55,000 --> 04:19:57,880
Speaker 24: help or or the tight end or whatever in that situation,

5864
04:19:58,240 --> 04:19:59,600
Speaker 24: does that create an imbalance?

5865
04:19:59,720 --> 04:20:04,680
Speaker 8: Now, like you're sure or under well, yeah, so, I

5866
04:20:04,760 --> 04:20:06,560
Speaker 8: mean not to get too bogged down in all of it,

5867
04:20:06,680 --> 04:20:12,080
Speaker 8: but you know, basically, most most standard pass protection systems

5868
04:20:12,400 --> 04:20:14,760
Speaker 8: run a half slide protection, right, So you're gonna have

5869
04:20:15,160 --> 04:20:17,520
Speaker 8: the center fan out with three guys to one side

5870
04:20:17,520 --> 04:20:19,280
Speaker 8: and then you're gonna block man to man on the

5871
04:20:19,360 --> 04:20:22,200
Speaker 8: other side. So in theory, you know, you can kind

5872
04:20:22,240 --> 04:20:24,720
Speaker 8: of bump over a gap right with every guy that's

5873
04:20:24,880 --> 04:20:28,440
Speaker 8: in the slide side of the protection, so the center

5874
04:20:28,520 --> 04:20:30,600
Speaker 8: can bump over, the guard can bump over, and then

5875
04:20:30,640 --> 04:20:34,080
Speaker 8: the tackle can set out and bump over. So you

5876
04:20:34,160 --> 04:20:36,640
Speaker 8: can go about it that way. And you know, maybe

5877
04:20:37,120 --> 04:20:39,600
Speaker 8: in just saying if it has to come to that,

5878
04:20:40,040 --> 04:20:42,360
Speaker 8: then like you have Mike on money and Morgan Moses

5879
04:20:42,440 --> 04:20:44,560
Speaker 8: on the right side, who are two guys that are

5880
04:20:44,640 --> 04:20:47,080
Speaker 8: veteran players that you feel pretty good about being one

5881
04:20:47,160 --> 04:20:50,840
Speaker 8: on one and you trust those guys to win their blocks,

5882
04:20:50,920 --> 04:20:53,360
Speaker 8: you know, and that's what it comes to. But like

5883
04:20:53,440 --> 04:20:56,000
Speaker 8: I keep saying, I'm not saying that it's automatic that

5884
04:20:56,120 --> 04:20:58,080
Speaker 8: that's gonna have to happen. I'm just saying, if it

5885
04:20:58,200 --> 04:20:59,960
Speaker 8: does have to happen, it's not the end of the world.

5886
04:21:00,000 --> 04:21:04,280
Speaker 24: World and miss Dante, it would be good you get

5887
04:21:04,280 --> 04:21:06,080
Speaker 24: to have that man here. But anyway, this is awesome.

5888
04:21:06,120 --> 04:21:08,280
Speaker 24: Thank you so much, guys, awesome, awesome shows.

5889
04:21:08,880 --> 04:21:09,440
Speaker 9: Rock and roll.

5890
04:21:09,680 --> 04:21:11,480
Speaker 24: I love to pick rock and roll.

5891
04:21:11,920 --> 04:21:13,560
Speaker 4: Okay, thanks, thanks me.

5892
04:21:14,080 --> 04:21:16,280
Speaker 8: Some real balltop Thearris speed I like to no, I.

5893
04:21:16,280 --> 04:21:19,800
Speaker 4: Mean, listen, he's of course, when you have to adjust

5894
04:21:20,000 --> 04:21:23,120
Speaker 4: for somebody not being able to go one on one

5895
04:21:23,440 --> 04:21:25,840
Speaker 4: that takes away from something else. There is a trickle down,

5896
04:21:25,880 --> 04:21:26,240
Speaker 4: and if.

5897
04:21:26,160 --> 04:21:29,880
Speaker 5: Every offensive lineman that they have needs help, then obviously.

5898
04:21:29,560 --> 04:21:31,440
Speaker 4: You need upgrades on your offensive right now.

5899
04:21:31,920 --> 04:21:34,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that it was one of those things

5900
04:21:34,400 --> 04:21:36,880
Speaker 5: that Evan sort of brought up last night that is

5901
04:21:36,960 --> 04:21:40,840
Speaker 5: sort of mushroomed into something. I don't think you intended

5902
04:21:40,880 --> 04:21:44,320
Speaker 5: ev correct that he's going to be a rookie who

5903
04:21:44,480 --> 04:21:49,400
Speaker 5: might need some help with specific matchups. If we need

5904
04:21:49,640 --> 04:21:52,680
Speaker 5: help on every play every game, then he ain't the

5905
04:21:52,760 --> 04:21:54,800
Speaker 5: right guy, right, And I don't think that will be

5906
04:21:54,880 --> 04:21:56,680
Speaker 5: the case. I don't think he'll need help all the time,

5907
04:21:56,960 --> 04:22:01,240
Speaker 5: every game against every match out right. So I don't

5908
04:22:01,240 --> 04:22:03,080
Speaker 5: think that you necessarily intended it that way.

5909
04:22:03,320 --> 04:22:03,360
Speaker 28: No.

5910
04:22:03,920 --> 04:22:05,920
Speaker 4: I mean, if he can come in, like, think of

5911
04:22:05,960 --> 04:22:07,760
Speaker 4: it the other way. If he comes into this league

5912
04:22:08,120 --> 04:22:11,480
Speaker 4: and he never needs help against anybody, we've just got

5913
04:22:11,520 --> 04:22:14,120
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer, Like, I don't think that's the

5914
04:22:14,200 --> 04:22:15,480
Speaker 4: case either, you know what I mean?

5915
04:22:15,920 --> 04:22:18,840
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, And Paul's right, Like, I didn't intend to

5916
04:22:19,000 --> 04:22:21,800
Speaker 8: like alarm anybody that he was gonna constantly need help.

5917
04:22:22,160 --> 04:22:24,040
Speaker 8: The only point I was making was that, you know,

5918
04:22:24,160 --> 04:22:26,160
Speaker 8: kind of what Fred just said, is that a lot

5919
04:22:26,200 --> 04:22:29,120
Speaker 8: of great tackles have needed help against great pass rushers.

5920
04:22:29,160 --> 04:22:31,000
Speaker 8: You know, there's a lot of great pass rushers in

5921
04:22:31,080 --> 04:22:34,640
Speaker 8: this league, and it's really a time right now where

5922
04:22:34,680 --> 04:22:39,600
Speaker 8: there's particularly a lot of them, and sometimes everybody's gonna

5923
04:22:39,640 --> 04:22:41,560
Speaker 8: need a little bit of help for the most part,

5924
04:22:41,840 --> 04:22:44,440
Speaker 8: you know. I mean, Tristan Wharfs probably doesn't need any help.

5925
04:22:44,600 --> 04:22:47,280
Speaker 8: But we're talking about the best left tackle in football

5926
04:22:47,400 --> 04:22:49,400
Speaker 8: right And I don't know if Will Campbell will be

5927
04:22:50,000 --> 04:22:52,160
Speaker 8: day one that he's not going to be the best

5928
04:22:52,200 --> 04:22:55,720
Speaker 8: left tackle in football, But eventually, hopefully he gets to

5929
04:22:55,760 --> 04:22:57,360
Speaker 8: the point where he is on an island a Tony

5930
04:22:57,640 --> 04:23:00,440
Speaker 8: Lsu left him on an island a ton They left

5931
04:23:00,520 --> 04:23:02,640
Speaker 8: him one on one on the backside all the time,

5932
04:23:03,320 --> 04:23:06,040
Speaker 8: and he held up in the sec So hopefully that

5933
04:23:06,400 --> 04:23:08,360
Speaker 8: skill translates. That's what we're all hoping for.

5934
04:23:08,480 --> 04:23:10,720
Speaker 4: One thing we know about him is whatever he needs

5935
04:23:10,800 --> 04:23:13,280
Speaker 4: to do to get there, he's gonna be willing to

5936
04:23:13,360 --> 04:23:16,680
Speaker 4: do it. He's he's gonna work hard, so and he's

5937
04:23:16,720 --> 04:23:20,280
Speaker 4: gonna probably take the coaching really well. And I think

5938
04:23:21,400 --> 04:23:23,120
Speaker 4: as compared to the last couple of years, I think

5939
04:23:23,120 --> 04:23:25,440
Speaker 4: we've got some better coaching along the offensive line.

5940
04:23:25,840 --> 04:23:29,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, and I'm optimistic, and you know, I'm sure

5941
04:23:29,720 --> 04:23:32,520
Speaker 8: that people that are way, you know, smarter about this

5942
04:23:32,640 --> 04:23:34,760
Speaker 8: type of stuff than me, you know, Doug Maron and

5943
04:23:34,920 --> 04:23:37,560
Speaker 8: Mike Rabel and those types of guys. I'm sure there

5944
04:23:37,600 --> 04:23:39,840
Speaker 8: are ways that they can coach his technique and help

5945
04:23:39,920 --> 04:23:43,120
Speaker 8: him protect the inside a little bit more consistently than

5946
04:23:43,160 --> 04:23:46,120
Speaker 8: he did at LSU. That was just that was the

5947
04:23:46,200 --> 04:23:47,560
Speaker 8: fatal flaw on tape with him.

5948
04:23:47,600 --> 04:23:47,840
Speaker 5: That's it.

5949
04:23:48,000 --> 04:23:51,960
Speaker 4: Ryan Counten, Okay, so let's go to Ryan there. He

5950
04:23:52,160 --> 04:23:55,200
Speaker 4: is Ryan count and Vice president of player Personnel for

5951
04:23:55,280 --> 04:23:57,440
Speaker 4: the New England Patriots. Hey, Ryan, thanks for joining us.

5952
04:23:57,480 --> 04:23:58,720
Speaker 4: I know it's been a long night for you.

5953
04:24:00,040 --> 04:24:02,640
Speaker 22: Oh that's okay, it's great, appreciate you having me. It's

5954
04:24:02,680 --> 04:24:05,040
Speaker 22: good to see you guys. And hello, I guess as

5955
04:24:05,080 --> 04:24:07,560
Speaker 22: some of you haven't actually met in person yet with

5956
04:24:07,640 --> 04:24:08,200
Speaker 22: everything going on.

5957
04:24:08,480 --> 04:24:11,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's Mike do So, Evan Lazar, Paul Parolo, myself,

5958
04:24:11,640 --> 04:24:14,720
Speaker 4: Fred Kersh. I'll just start it out. When the when

5959
04:24:14,800 --> 04:24:16,920
Speaker 4: this night started out, did you know you were gonna

5960
04:24:16,920 --> 04:24:17,680
Speaker 4: go all offense?

5961
04:24:20,800 --> 04:24:22,600
Speaker 22: I think I think that the great thing about the

5962
04:24:22,680 --> 04:24:25,320
Speaker 22: draft is you can always have a plan, but ultimately

5963
04:24:25,720 --> 04:24:29,880
Speaker 22: the draft creates situations where you have to react. I

5964
04:24:29,920 --> 04:24:31,720
Speaker 22: don't think you ever go in saying, man, we're gonna

5965
04:24:31,720 --> 04:24:33,200
Speaker 22: we're gonna hammer this out on one side of the

5966
04:24:33,240 --> 04:24:33,840
Speaker 22: ball or the other.

5967
04:24:34,480 --> 04:24:34,600
Speaker 12: Uh.

5968
04:24:35,000 --> 04:24:37,840
Speaker 22: The key is following your board, trusting the board, and

5969
04:24:38,160 --> 04:24:42,160
Speaker 22: leading yourself to the picks based off where you've evaluated players.

5970
04:24:43,000 --> 04:24:45,320
Speaker 22: You never think, I'm gonna go heavy on this side.

5971
04:24:46,640 --> 04:24:47,800
Speaker 22: So it just sometimes works out.

5972
04:24:47,960 --> 04:24:49,080
Speaker 4: Just turned out that way, yep.

5973
04:24:49,520 --> 04:24:51,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, Ryan One to actually just about this running back group.

5974
04:24:51,920 --> 04:24:54,200
Speaker 7: We've been talking about them all spring. Everyone talked about

5975
04:24:54,200 --> 04:24:56,120
Speaker 7: how there's gonna be good players from you know, top

5976
04:24:56,160 --> 04:24:58,040
Speaker 7: of the draft with genty all the way into tomorrow.

5977
04:24:58,440 --> 04:25:01,000
Speaker 7: How did you guys land on Hender and make him

5978
04:25:01,040 --> 04:25:02,960
Speaker 7: your guy out of that big, you know, impressive group.

5979
04:25:03,920 --> 04:25:05,880
Speaker 22: Sure, it is an impressive group. And you know, I

5980
04:25:05,960 --> 04:25:10,080
Speaker 22: think with Trevion, Trevion has been and a really explosive

5981
04:25:10,080 --> 04:25:12,840
Speaker 22: player his whole career at Ohio State. I know there's

5982
04:25:12,840 --> 04:25:14,800
Speaker 22: been times in his career where he's worked in tandem

5983
04:25:14,840 --> 04:25:17,160
Speaker 22: with other backs, but I think one of the things

5984
04:25:17,160 --> 04:25:20,160
Speaker 22: that jumps out is his ability to flip the field,

5985
04:25:20,480 --> 04:25:23,760
Speaker 22: his ability to create explosives. You know, I think this

5986
04:25:23,920 --> 04:25:26,360
Speaker 22: year he took a really a huge step in his

5987
04:25:26,440 --> 04:25:29,640
Speaker 22: pass protection. You'll find some evidence of him on tape

5988
04:25:30,240 --> 04:25:33,280
Speaker 22: not afraid to deliver a blow to play square. And

5989
04:25:33,480 --> 04:25:35,720
Speaker 22: I think over his career he's grown as a player.

5990
04:25:36,080 --> 04:25:39,320
Speaker 22: He's gone through some adversity in his life. He's dealt

5991
04:25:39,360 --> 04:25:41,680
Speaker 22: with some stuff on the field off the field, just

5992
04:25:41,760 --> 04:25:44,480
Speaker 22: that's hard calloused him. And I think this year he

5993
04:25:44,680 --> 04:25:48,000
Speaker 22: was just a guy that he's a real matchup problem.

5994
04:25:48,040 --> 04:25:50,120
Speaker 22: And I think when he's on the field, defensive have

5995
04:25:50,240 --> 04:25:50,960
Speaker 22: to account for him.

5996
04:25:51,480 --> 04:25:51,600
Speaker 4: Right.

5997
04:25:51,680 --> 04:25:54,000
Speaker 5: The next pick you guys made was was Kyle Williams

5998
04:25:54,280 --> 04:25:58,520
Speaker 5: the wide receiver. What specifically attracted you guys to him?

5999
04:25:58,560 --> 04:26:00,280
Speaker 5: And what about his skill set did you guys like?

6000
04:26:01,400 --> 04:26:01,600
Speaker 10: Yeah?

6001
04:26:01,640 --> 04:26:03,320
Speaker 22: So, I think when you take a look at Kyle

6002
04:26:03,520 --> 04:26:07,200
Speaker 22: like there's an explosive, dynamic playmaker element to his game.

6003
04:26:07,520 --> 04:26:09,280
Speaker 22: I think if you look over the last two years,

6004
04:26:09,320 --> 04:26:12,320
Speaker 22: you know, he played with cam Ward last year after

6005
04:26:13,000 --> 04:26:16,160
Speaker 22: transferring over from UNLV to Washington State and played with

6006
04:26:16,280 --> 04:26:19,840
Speaker 22: Cam last year. I think Cam probably heavily tried to

6007
04:26:19,880 --> 04:26:22,000
Speaker 22: recruit him to go to Miami as well, but you know,

6008
04:26:22,160 --> 04:26:24,800
Speaker 22: Kyle stayed and this year he had a great year.

6009
04:26:24,920 --> 04:26:27,480
Speaker 22: I think he ended up somewhere around close to twelve

6010
04:26:27,520 --> 04:26:30,320
Speaker 22: hundred yards and fourteen touchdowns, And I think when you

6011
04:26:30,440 --> 04:26:33,360
Speaker 22: watch what he does in the way he runs routes

6012
04:26:33,560 --> 04:26:37,000
Speaker 22: and there's a suddenness to his game. And I think

6013
04:26:37,040 --> 04:26:39,320
Speaker 22: as receivers one of the biggest things their job to

6014
04:26:39,400 --> 04:26:41,840
Speaker 22: do is is we always say a couple of things right,

6015
04:26:41,920 --> 04:26:44,920
Speaker 22: ones get open and the others catch it. And I think, Kyle,

6016
04:26:45,000 --> 04:26:47,280
Speaker 22: when you look at the get open face, Kyle has

6017
04:26:47,320 --> 04:26:51,920
Speaker 22: some unique skills physically to really create windows for the

6018
04:26:52,000 --> 04:26:53,040
Speaker 22: quarterback to throw to him.

6019
04:26:53,160 --> 04:26:55,440
Speaker 5: Do you see a little versatility there in terms of

6020
04:26:55,640 --> 04:26:58,400
Speaker 5: his alignment? Can he go inside outside maybe a little bit?

6021
04:26:58,520 --> 04:27:01,000
Speaker 5: Or do you like him just as a slot No?

6022
04:27:01,360 --> 04:27:03,080
Speaker 22: You know, I think actually probably Kyle. You know, I

6023
04:27:03,120 --> 04:27:05,400
Speaker 22: don't ever want to try to pigeonhole guys. I think

6024
04:27:05,440 --> 04:27:07,560
Speaker 22: the biggest thing is playing receiver. And I know that

6025
04:27:07,680 --> 04:27:11,160
Speaker 22: sounds like a very generic idea, but I think when

6026
04:27:11,200 --> 04:27:13,640
Speaker 22: you say he's an inside guy, he's an outside guy. Well,

6027
04:27:13,720 --> 04:27:17,000
Speaker 22: formations dictate a lot of different things, and sometimes outside guys,

6028
04:27:17,200 --> 04:27:20,280
Speaker 22: you know, you go inside for a matchup or then

6029
04:27:20,320 --> 04:27:22,760
Speaker 22: you get into saying what do you want certain plays

6030
04:27:22,800 --> 04:27:24,120
Speaker 22: to look like? What are you going to ask from

6031
04:27:24,160 --> 04:27:28,280
Speaker 22: those roles. I think Kyle does not his physical skills shit,

6032
04:27:28,360 --> 04:27:31,240
Speaker 22: don't limit him to either inside outside any of that

6033
04:27:31,280 --> 04:27:32,160
Speaker 22: stuff in my opinion.

6034
04:27:32,240 --> 04:27:35,600
Speaker 8: So, Ryan, what can you tell us about Jared Wilson?

6035
04:27:35,680 --> 04:27:39,000
Speaker 8: And you know, with Garrett Bradberry obviously on the roster already,

6036
04:27:39,040 --> 04:27:42,360
Speaker 8: how do you kind of envision that center position looking

6037
04:27:42,480 --> 04:27:42,800
Speaker 8: right now?

6038
04:27:44,080 --> 04:27:46,760
Speaker 22: So it falls into jar jareds a young player, you know,

6039
04:27:46,880 --> 04:27:49,160
Speaker 22: stepped in this year his first year to start in

6040
04:27:49,240 --> 04:27:49,680
Speaker 22: the SEC.

6041
04:27:51,440 --> 04:27:53,120
Speaker 1: Had a good year obviously.

6042
04:27:53,280 --> 04:27:56,000
Speaker 22: You know, everybody can point to some of the testing athletically,

6043
04:27:56,120 --> 04:27:58,880
Speaker 22: what's in his body, what he's capable of, and I

6044
04:27:58,960 --> 04:28:01,200
Speaker 22: think he's a player that's it's just kind of scratching

6045
04:28:01,240 --> 04:28:04,440
Speaker 22: the surface. Speaking to the guys on our team, you know,

6046
04:28:04,480 --> 04:28:06,000
Speaker 22: we have a bunch of guys or a handful of

6047
04:28:06,080 --> 04:28:09,000
Speaker 22: guys that you know will compete at that center position,

6048
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Speaker 22: and I.

6049
04:28:09,200 --> 04:28:10,600
Speaker 2: Think Jared falls into that mix.

6050
04:28:11,280 --> 04:28:13,760
Speaker 22: I think anytime you're you're trying to do this in

6051
04:28:13,840 --> 04:28:17,080
Speaker 22: the draft, you're all you're always trying to create competition,

6052
04:28:17,360 --> 04:28:19,240
Speaker 22: and I think if we don't do that, then it's

6053
04:28:19,280 --> 04:28:21,480
Speaker 22: a flow on our part to create as much competition

6054
04:28:21,520 --> 04:28:24,000
Speaker 22: as possible across the board. And I think we just

6055
04:28:24,080 --> 04:28:25,960
Speaker 22: see that there's a lot of upside to Jared's game.

6056
04:28:26,720 --> 04:28:29,600
Speaker 22: We have some veteran guys that you know, we just

6057
04:28:29,720 --> 04:28:32,280
Speaker 22: envisioned those guys competing, and as you guys know, with

6058
04:28:32,640 --> 04:28:35,200
Speaker 22: coach ray Wood, I really think the way it should be,

6059
04:28:35,680 --> 04:28:37,680
Speaker 22: competition across the board is what's going to bring out

6060
04:28:37,680 --> 04:28:40,040
Speaker 22: the best of all of us, and I think he'll

6061
04:28:40,120 --> 04:28:40,880
Speaker 22: just add to that room.

6062
04:28:41,160 --> 04:28:42,480
Speaker 8: Does he have it? Do you think he has any

6063
04:28:42,520 --> 04:28:44,760
Speaker 8: flexibility to play some guard or do you guys see

6064
04:28:44,800 --> 04:28:46,640
Speaker 8: him as a center only prospect?

6065
04:28:47,600 --> 04:28:51,040
Speaker 22: He has some experience playing guard. I think again that's

6066
04:28:51,080 --> 04:28:52,880
Speaker 22: one of those kind of similar to the receiver part.

6067
04:28:53,800 --> 04:28:56,840
Speaker 22: Anytime we, you know, try to take offensive lineman, you

6068
04:28:56,880 --> 04:28:59,120
Speaker 22: would love the versatility, right. You don't want as many

6069
04:28:59,200 --> 04:29:02,240
Speaker 22: guys being stuck in the one spot. Whether that's how

6070
04:29:02,280 --> 04:29:04,120
Speaker 22: it factors into your game day stuff, how you can

6071
04:29:04,240 --> 04:29:06,840
Speaker 22: manipulate stuff in practice, how you can work through injuries.

6072
04:29:07,360 --> 04:29:11,160
Speaker 22: Jared has experienced playing guard, obviously started this year playing center,

6073
04:29:11,520 --> 04:29:13,160
Speaker 22: So I think we would look at both those things

6074
04:29:13,200 --> 04:29:14,720
Speaker 22: and wind up doing ultimately what's.

6075
04:29:14,600 --> 04:29:16,360
Speaker 2: Best for the to get the best five.

6076
04:29:16,360 --> 04:29:20,160
Speaker 4: And his rotation how we see fit. All right, Well,

6077
04:29:20,480 --> 04:29:22,160
Speaker 4: we'll let you get back to work. I know you've

6078
04:29:22,160 --> 04:29:25,480
Speaker 4: got to restack the board, get ready for tomorrow. Tomorrow's

6079
04:29:25,520 --> 04:29:27,200
Speaker 4: all defense, right, I'm only.

6080
04:29:27,480 --> 04:29:29,360
Speaker 22: Well, yeah, you want to just counter that by saying

6081
04:29:29,440 --> 04:29:33,160
Speaker 22: defense right, right? You know it is, though, Tomorrow's exciting,

6082
04:29:33,200 --> 04:29:35,560
Speaker 22: you know what. I think everybody does get caught up into,

6083
04:29:36,320 --> 04:29:38,720
Speaker 22: you know, in the first round, and rightfully so, and

6084
04:29:39,040 --> 04:29:42,280
Speaker 22: then tonight and I think, you know, fortunate for me.

6085
04:29:42,400 --> 04:29:45,680
Speaker 22: I think this is my twenty sixth draft, and I

6086
04:29:45,760 --> 04:29:48,440
Speaker 22: think the fun part is tomorrow. And not only is

6087
04:29:48,480 --> 04:29:50,760
Speaker 22: it with the draft selections, it's it's what happens after

6088
04:29:50,880 --> 04:29:54,520
Speaker 22: the draft. There's an organic part discounting that happens after

6089
04:29:54,600 --> 04:29:57,760
Speaker 22: the draft, and there's a lot of work by our staff.

6090
04:29:57,760 --> 04:30:00,480
Speaker 22: I've been impressed with with the college staff pro staff

6091
04:30:00,520 --> 04:30:02,800
Speaker 22: over my couple of months here, the time they put in,

6092
04:30:02,960 --> 04:30:05,840
Speaker 22: and just really excited to see them kind of go

6093
04:30:05,920 --> 04:30:08,520
Speaker 22: to work tomorrow through the post draft and that's where you.

6094
04:30:08,520 --> 04:30:09,240
Speaker 4: Can make a difference.

6095
04:30:09,400 --> 04:30:11,400
Speaker 22: And I'm excited to be able to do that tomorrow

6096
04:30:11,440 --> 04:30:11,920
Speaker 22: with this group.

6097
04:30:12,120 --> 04:30:14,000
Speaker 4: Well, Ryan, thank you so much for joining us.

6098
04:30:14,840 --> 04:30:15,400
Speaker 5: Thank you guys.

6099
04:30:15,520 --> 04:30:20,040
Speaker 4: Have a great night, Okayry Ryan Counton, Vice President of

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Speaker 4: Player Personnel for the twenty.

6101
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Speaker 1: Sixth draft too.

6102
04:30:22,640 --> 04:30:24,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, well you're just like Ryan Cowton.

6103
04:30:24,880 --> 04:30:26,400
Speaker 5: I don't look as young as he does. That I'll

6104
04:30:26,440 --> 04:30:26,760
Speaker 5: tell you that.

6105
04:30:27,880 --> 04:30:30,040
Speaker 4: Well, he was three years old start at the Herald.

6106
04:30:30,760 --> 04:30:33,240
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't count those drafts. Okay, yeah, that

6107
04:30:33,280 --> 04:30:35,440
Speaker 5: would be like thirty six drafts if I counted the Herald.

6108
04:30:35,520 --> 04:30:37,160
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that, you know, your career at the

6109
04:30:37,240 --> 04:30:38,280
Speaker 4: Herald preceded all this.

6110
04:30:38,520 --> 04:30:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, So.

6111
04:30:41,160 --> 04:30:42,720
Speaker 4: Okay, So that was good to hear from him.

6112
04:30:43,160 --> 04:30:45,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I've I've been impressed with him. You know,

6113
04:30:45,680 --> 04:30:47,160
Speaker 8: I got to talk to him at the Senior Bowl

6114
04:30:47,240 --> 04:30:50,000
Speaker 8: for the first time, and I think him and Elliott

6115
04:30:50,040 --> 04:30:52,760
Speaker 8: Wolfer both kind of cut from the same cloth as

6116
04:30:53,120 --> 04:30:56,120
Speaker 8: like true scouts like him talking about undrafted free agency

6117
04:30:56,240 --> 04:30:58,600
Speaker 8: is his favorite part, right, Like that that that's a

6118
04:30:58,720 --> 04:31:01,640
Speaker 8: true scout, Like these guys like that element of it,

6119
04:31:01,720 --> 04:31:04,080
Speaker 8: I think more than anything of just going on the

6120
04:31:04,200 --> 04:31:07,440
Speaker 8: road and scouting players and stacking boards and you know,

6121
04:31:07,560 --> 04:31:11,000
Speaker 8: finding those hidden gems. So it's cool to hear hear

6122
04:31:11,120 --> 04:31:13,480
Speaker 8: what he has to say about that element of it.

6123
04:31:14,000 --> 04:31:18,160
Speaker 4: All right, So the Patriots book had it's late. The

6124
04:31:18,200 --> 04:31:21,000
Speaker 4: Patriots ended up with three players tonight. They got a

6125
04:31:21,560 --> 04:31:24,000
Speaker 4: running back, they got a wide receiver, and they got

6126
04:31:24,040 --> 04:31:28,320
Speaker 4: a center. Tomorrow is the rest of the draft rounds four, five, six,

6127
04:31:28,440 --> 04:31:31,640
Speaker 4: and seven. We will be on at noon tomorrow for

6128
04:31:32,040 --> 04:31:35,400
Speaker 4: at least a couple hours. These guys eventually have to

6129
04:31:35,440 --> 04:31:38,120
Speaker 4: do some other work, you know, start writing about these

6130
04:31:38,200 --> 04:31:41,880
Speaker 4: guys sleep. Yeah, yeah, but we will be back at noon.

6131
04:31:42,160 --> 04:31:45,120
Speaker 4: Thank you for watching and listening tonight. We really enjoyed it.

6132
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