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Speaker 1: It's difficult enough, dre for the Giants to you know,

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Speaker 1: overcome the mistakes that they make, but they don't need

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Speaker 1: to be dealing with bad officiating as well. And in fairness,

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Speaker 1: I will say this, it's for all the teams. It's

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Speaker 1: for the opponents to the officiating in the NFL. I

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Speaker 1: will say this because the NFL can't find me. Stinks.

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Speaker 1: It is really bad. It is worse than I have

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Speaker 1: ever ever seen. Now you can nickel and dime ahead.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this, and it's bout my last point.

435
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Speaker 1: If the rest were full time rest, there'll be more

436
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Speaker 1: accountability to what they got. But being at their part

437
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Speaker 1: time and really have no real stick in the game,

438
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Speaker 1: they make calls and don't have to worry about the repercussions.

439
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Speaker 1: What team wants to let it come in and say, yeah,

440
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Speaker 1: we missed that call passing inference to uh, the past

441
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Speaker 1: interference call? Well, what happened to it? There was too

442
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: passion for interference calls. You know what's on, and then

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Speaker 1: you pick up one and I'm talking about the touchdown

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Speaker 1: the possible touchdowns to uh. Yeah, that was right in

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Speaker 1: front of me. Let me let me just get into

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Speaker 1: that for one second. Thanks for the call. Slayton was

447
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Speaker 1: right in front of me in my corner of the

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Speaker 1: end zone. And what they claimed was when they picked

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Speaker 1: up that flag, the past was uncatchable and therefore they

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Speaker 1: took it away. Here was the problem. The defensive back

451
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Speaker 1: put two hands on Slayton, grabbed them with both hands

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Speaker 1: and held them the entire way down the field through

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Speaker 1: the pass route. Okay, there should have been defensive holding.

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Speaker 1: Called pass interference was the wrong call. It should have

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Speaker 1: been defensive holding, which, by the way, you can't pick

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Speaker 1: up the flag on because the past is uncatchable. Defensive

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Speaker 1: holding is defensive holding period. Well. Incredible, incredible. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I mentioned this to you, Paul, or I

459
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Speaker 1: mentioned it when I was sitting maybe with David Deal.

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Speaker 1: This whole pass interference business. I'm gonna tell you what's

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Speaker 1: gonna happen with this, this whole pass interference business where

462
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: they put the rule in because of what happened last

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Speaker 1: year with the Saints, and now nobody calls it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know, you go and challenge it, but it goes

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Speaker 1: for nought. I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen, and

466
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Speaker 1: it's gonna end up being a blow up. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: this kind of deal is gonna happen in the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl when the magnifying glass and the spotlight is that

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Speaker 1: its greatest, and then you're gonna have the brew haha

470
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Speaker 1: of all brew hahas, because then they're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 1: why the hell now you're calling it now, but you

472
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Speaker 1: didn't call it during the season. You watch, you watch?

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Speaker 1: That is what's going to happen in the playoffs or

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Speaker 1: in a super Bowl you just watched. I mean, the

475
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: officiating has stunk this season. And what happens when an

476
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Speaker 1: obvious coal gets missed a coach throws the review flag

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Speaker 1: and they don't overturn it. How about that? I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you you watch alright? To zero, one, five, one three

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Speaker 1: is the number again. Gotta remind everybody Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: more details, Let's go to Delaware and check with uh.

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Speaker 1: Is it Darien or Darren Darian? How you doing today?

486
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Speaker 1: My friend? I'm doing good. How you guys good? What's up? Hello?

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Speaker 1: So I just had a question. I know you guys

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Speaker 1: can't speak, you know, in specifics, but hypothetically, what do

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Speaker 1: you think the benefit is in uh, you know, given

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Speaker 1: up potentially given up a three and a five for

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Speaker 1: you know, a guy that's going to be a free

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Speaker 1: agent at the end of the year that if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna want to keep, you're gonna have to contend or

494
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Speaker 1: you know, bid against the rest of the league for

495
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: anyway instead of you know, just waiting to the end

496
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Speaker 1: of the year to do that. Well, especially when at

497
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Speaker 1: that position d tackle is inherently not a you know,

498
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Speaker 1: game changing position that's going to turn you know, a

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Speaker 1: contender or not contender into a contender. So and if

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Speaker 1: you think and one of the reasons I heard is, um,

501
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: you know, kind of to do like an eight game

502
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: tryout to see if you even want to resign them.

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Speaker 1: So do you guys think that it Well, well, hold

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Speaker 1: on a second. The only place you heard that was

505
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Speaker 1: speculation by somebody in the media. Oy, okay, you know

506
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Speaker 1: you haven't heard that. You know, the giants didn't say,

507
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, if if this is again it's speculation, if

508
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Speaker 1: this is going to be the deal. Uh, you're having

509
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Speaker 1: somebody on a tryout for my If you're asking me, Darian,

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Speaker 1: I would say, if they're making this deal, I keep saying,

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Speaker 1: is Darians still there? No? Well, you know, sorry, Darian,

512
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Speaker 1: but you left us, I would say, Paulie, if indeed

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Speaker 1: this deal is being made, I don't think it's being

514
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Speaker 1: made for eight games. I think it's being would be

515
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: made for full intentions of keeping the man here. That

516
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: would certainly make a lot of sense, you know, And

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Speaker 1: you know, then the other thing I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you can scratch your heads. Everybody wants to speculate, and

519
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Speaker 1: until it happens it's official, then we can't ask the

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Speaker 1: powers to be the questions. But you know, could it

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Speaker 1: be they want this guy on the edge to be

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher. Yeah, you know so, I mean there

523
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of different ways. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing the Giants go to a four

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00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 1: man line, yeah, especially if said player is part of

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Speaker 1: the roster. Yeah, I don't again, so um, if and

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Speaker 1: when this comes the deal, I think that is part

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Speaker 1: of the thinking. Let's go travel out to Denver and

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Speaker 1: check in with Bill. Hello, Bill, you're on with Russ

530
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Speaker 1: and Hey, how you doing? How you doing? Bill? The

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Speaker 1: snow day today out here in Denver? How much will

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Speaker 1: I catch the podcast later on? Is? How much treat

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Speaker 1: to be able to call? How much snow do you have?

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Speaker 1: It's still coming down saw a few inches right now,

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Speaker 1: but it could be anywhere from six to twelve by

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning. Okay, all right, boy, I don't know if

537
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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you anymore. I'm not ready

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Speaker 1: for any of that stuff. We'll keep it on our

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Speaker 1: side of the count, please do Um. I just wanted

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Speaker 1: to call and talk a little bit about, you know,

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Speaker 1: what's going on here with the situation Daniel Jones, Like,

542
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Speaker 1: why why is it helpful to have him in this

543
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Speaker 1: position of starting these games? Taking like when we're we

544
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Speaker 1: started in the third game of the season, and I

545
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: wasn't sure about that because, you know, walking him in

546
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Speaker 1: the third preseason game, all these sack fumbles, and you know,

547
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Speaker 1: when I saw that in the third preseason game, I thought, great,

548
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna work on ball control, balk security until like

549
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Speaker 1: late in the season, until we're mathematically out of things,

550
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: and then you know, we'll give him a few games.

551
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Speaker 1: But we got Eli Manning here, and frankly, i'd rather

552
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Speaker 1: watch you live through interception take sack fumbles. They're giving

553
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: the ball up behind the line scrimmage with this many times. Bill, Well,

554
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: you sound like and thank you for the call, but

555
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: you sound like you sound like Russ and Paul, meaning

556
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: you're a big, big Eli Manning fan, and I don't

557
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: think you have two people who are bigger Eli fans

558
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Speaker 1: than the two of us sitting here. But listen, If

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Speaker 1: you can't see the progress that Daniel Joe Owns is

560
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Speaker 1: making and you can't see the reason he's in there,

561
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Speaker 1: then then you're looking at it with Eli blind blinds on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry you you've seen mistakes, which you see with

563
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: the young quarterback, but you've also seen a lot of

564
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: good things. You've seen, tremendous toughness and if you're gonna

565
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: be really honest, and Paul and I have had to

566
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: be really honest with ourselves. There are definitely certain situations

567
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: that young Mr Daniel Jones got out of that Eli

568
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Manning would not be able to get out of because

569
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Speaker 1: of his uh mobility. So I mean for for you

570
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Speaker 1: to say, what's the sense of having Daniel Jones behind there?

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Speaker 1: Quite frankly, no disrespect my friend, but that doesn't make

572
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Speaker 1: any sense to me. To zero one three is the number.

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Speaker 1: Let's go down to Alabama and check in with John. Hello, John,

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Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and PAULI dots hey, I think Paul,

575
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys, how you doing. John? Hey? Good?

576
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: I tell you guys opinion. So through having it like

577
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Speaker 1: a report card with regards to some of the things

578
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Speaker 1: that are going on with the Giants, and I just

579
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Speaker 1: want your guys thoughts. Okay, So I think gentman and

580
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Speaker 1: I think the coach is doing well. Maybe the defensive

581
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: coach has some issues with trying to teach some of

582
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Speaker 1: these young players. So I give coaching and management probably

583
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Speaker 1: like a b Okay, what's your guys thoughts, Um, I

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Speaker 1: I would think, you know, I think B is being

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Speaker 1: generous if you bet you if you if I if

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Speaker 1: you said the coaches, if he has the coaches, I

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Speaker 1: don't think they give themselves a B because coaches, you know,

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Speaker 1: coaches take blame. And when I say they take blame,

589
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: they take blame on themselves. I think, Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd say B minus. Okay. I think the key thing

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Speaker 1: here is some of our playmakers are just not making

592
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Speaker 1: the plays. Except we've got some exceptions. I would say

593
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Speaker 1: Golden Tate, except he missed four games. I think that's

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Speaker 1: the difference. He made all those games. I think Berkeley too,

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00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: but he's missed some games. And then, um, I think

596
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Speaker 1: also we've as regards to the playmakers, one of the

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Speaker 1: key things that we're missing here with our playmaker is

598
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Speaker 1: we're missing field goals, which are hurting us. What do

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Speaker 1: you guys think about that? Well, I'll tell you what, John,

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Speaker 1: you bring up a good point. I really you know what,

601
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Speaker 1: Paul and Paul and I schmooze and talk about it

602
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: all the time. That's one thing you and I haven't discussed.

603
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Speaker 1: And you know, kicking can go into streets Paul as

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Speaker 1: you and I both know, and I've gotten a little

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm panicking, but I just want if

606
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Speaker 1: Aldric is going into a little bit of a bad

607
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Speaker 1: streak missing a field goal here, missing a field goal,

608
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Speaker 1: they're missing an extra point, it just kind of oh

609
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm a big ross guy, so am I,

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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm very disappointed. Uh. And I would also

611
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: say that again, a team in the Giants situation unfortunately

612
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: needs basically perfection out of its kicking game. They've got

613
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Speaker 1: to beat every team every week in the special team's category.

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Speaker 1: If they're going to have a chance to win the game.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be an edge that they locked down

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Speaker 1: every single weekend. That has not been the case. That's

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Speaker 1: that was a good point to bring up, John really,

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Speaker 1: because I'm glad you did, because I've been thinking about that.

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Speaker 1: And again, big fan of Aldric, you know, Uh, he

620
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Speaker 1: came off a shaky kind of I think he's pressing

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you and I really ending last season.

622
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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he listen. He has to trust himself.

623
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Speaker 1: We saw all last season that he is an outstanding kicker.

624
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: He needs to trust himself and I think right now

625
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: it's mental. I think it's in his head like it

626
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: was when he was a rookie. And I think he's pressing.

627
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, you can't make a guy relax because that's counterproductive.

628
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: He's got to be able to do it by himself.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, John, nothing, nothing will get you

630
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Speaker 1: into a bad streak as a kicker, like like pressing,

631
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Speaker 1: because that makes you're nervous. Yeah, and hey, listen my

632
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: last point with regards to this, um, you know, you

633
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: just have to fix a couple of key things here.

634
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Speaker 1: Um Number one, turnovers they're killing us, okay, and they

635
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: kill all the teams when they you know, you start

636
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Speaker 1: turning the ball over when part of that standil Jones

637
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: just getting used to the pass rushing stopping. You know,

638
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: I actually give him a grade of a bee. Drop

639
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: passes have been killing, killing us on key moments without questions.

640
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: And and then second, well, and well, the last one

641
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: besides those skill goals is the coverage on the secondary.

642
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: And I really go to I think, um, we're asking

643
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: too much of Baker. You know from my first round

644
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: draft choice, he's just he lost, he's kind of lost

645
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: out there. And I'll just take that offline. Guys to

646
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: the call, I don't I don't know. I would disagree

647
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: with you saying that he's lost. But he is a rookie,

648
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 1: so he's gonna make rookie mistakes because his game. I think, Paul,

649
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: you would really agree with me that his game has

650
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: really improved from the first couple of games. So so

651
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: to say lost, no, to say some shaky moments, yeah,

652
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: that comes with the territory. But you know, like if

653
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna be fair and we'll talk about this mistake

654
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: from this guy be a Daniel, or this mistake from

655
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: DeAndre Baker or what you know what, let's be honest.

656
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: Um made a big boo boo if you will on

657
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: that lateral pass because he just looked at it. You

658
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: admitted to it. No, No, he didn't. No, I'm not

659
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: saying that he didn't admit to it. I mean, no,

660
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: one's more stand up than say Kuan. But those are

661
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: all the things that we're talking about. They gotta everybody's

662
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: gotta be on their game. You gotta be aware of

663
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: everything going on all the time. And that was a

664
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: costly mistake, real costly mistake. To zero four five one

665
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: three is the number. Let's go down to Columbia, Maryland

666
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: and speak with our friend Lenn. Hello Lenn, you're on

667
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: with Russ and Paul. Hey, guys, how are we doing? Lenny? Well,

668
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm frustrated you too, Huh, I'm frustrated like most Giants fans.

669
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: Look what you know, looking looking at it long, looking back,

670
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: long term. Guys, we've lost thirty of our last forty

671
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 1: games with ten and thirty holy count. I mean, by accident,

672
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: you should be better. I mean, I just don't. I

673
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: don't get it. You know, we keep saying they got

674
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 1: to play better, they got to play better. What makes

675
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: us think? You know, they're all nice guys, they're all trying.

676
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: That's the first thing I want to say. I should

677
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: have said that straight out. Everybody's triumph. Okay, I'm not

678
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: blaming anybody here for dogging it. Everybody's trying. But what

679
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: makes us think we can get more out of these guys?

680
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we're hoping well. I I would say I'll

681
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: stay right off the top. I no, no, let lens,

682
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: it's a fair question, but I would say right off

683
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: the top. And if you've been listening, we've been talking

684
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: about I'll tell you what makes us say that they

685
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: can be better. Is this they simply execute better, and

686
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: they have not been the only thing they've been executing

687
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: has been executing themselves. Absolutely, absolutely, They're not to think

688
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: that that there's not enough talent on this team to

689
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: play much better. Well, I don't. I don't see where

690
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, I don't see where it's going to improve

691
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: this this four game stretch. Frankly, you know, Arizona to Detroit,

692
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: Arizona less less than a mid level team, and we

693
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: got him at home. Uh, Detroit, you know, a mid

694
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: level team at best. But but you know, real weaknesses.

695
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm in the trade norf starters, so you know they've

696
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: they've they've got some weaknesses. They're okay, the Cowboys are

697
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: a good team. What we got him at home? We

698
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: got him on Monday night, and then we get the chants.

699
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: I thought maybe, and I'm not taking what game we

700
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 1: were gonna lose. I thought we'd win through or four

701
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: of those games. Well, but do you just you let

702
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: me ask you a question, and Paul, Paul, please time in.

703
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: You just use the phrase at Detroit mid level Arizona

704
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: mid level? Okay, Well, where would the Giants be? What

705
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: were you calling the Giants upper level. No, no, no, no, Well,

706
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: I just thought we had chances to win those games.

707
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: I thought there would be improvements. I mean, see, I

708
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 1: thought we'd see improvement this week. I mean the thirty

709
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: out of forty is the same. What our record is

710
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: this year. We're two and six. We've lost three times

711
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: as many games as we won. That's what we've done

712
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: over the last forty two. Uh, you know, I mean

713
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,959
Speaker 1: it's just I think the way you get better, Russ.

714
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: You know you talked about we got to get better.

715
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: The way we get better is we get better players.

716
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: And that's why, honestly, if this trade goes through, I'm

717
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I'm all for it. I think

718
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: williams On on Monday Night against the Cowboys is the

719
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: best defensive linement on our team. On Monday Night, he

720
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: comes in and becomes the best defensive linement. I think

721
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: he's one of the three or four if he gets

722
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: traded to the Giants, one of the three or four

723
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: best defensive three four defensive ends in the conference, not

724
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: in the hole, in the whole conference. I mean, that's

725
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: the top level player. That's the kind of players we

726
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: got a gift guys. Well, but but we we don't

727
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: have any players like that. Well, but Len, you're just

728
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: answering your own question, if and when it becomes official, buddy,

729
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: and thank you for the call as always Land, But

730
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 1: if and when that that becomes official, you're getting a

731
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: good player, a very solid good player. I kind of like,

732
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: and again you know it's not on any inside information.

733
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: I kind of like your thoughts where when I ask

734
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: you about him possibly being you know, an edge rusher,

735
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: and you kind of said, yeah, why not a four three? Look?

736
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: I know one thing for sure, the Giants have a

737
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: better chance of putting ford defensive lineman on the field

738
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: and succeeding as a defense then they do right now

739
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: putting the linebackers that they have on the field. There

740
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: there's more power, beef, sturdiness in the defensive line, especially

741
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: if said player is coming in that trade. I mean,

742
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: it's all about getting your best players on the field,

743
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: So why not go to a fourth three? It just

744
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: makes perfect sense to me. Yeah, I'll tell you one

745
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: guy who I've been pleased with the past few games

746
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: is uh uh Dalvin Dalvin Thomlinson. I thought he's been

747
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: playing some very good football, and and in fact, coach

748
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: singled him out yesterday on the conference call. Quite honestly,

749
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: the rookie has done really well Dexter. Yeah. You know,

750
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: for for all that we have said about the inconsistency

751
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: of the inconsistencies of the rookies, Dexter, Lawrence is providing

752
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: quality snaps. Now they're not statistical highlights, but their quality snaps. No, no,

753
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean he singled out Dexter. And you know Dalvin,

754
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: but Dalvin, Dalvin had a great game. What was it?

755
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:58,479
Speaker 1: Dalmin had a terrific game against UM the Patriots. Uh,

756
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: Dalvin has been playing and you know there's another young

757
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: player who's now in his third year. So uh, two

758
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: zero one three is the number. Let's go to Cranford

759
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: and check in with Dave. Hello, Dave, you're on with

760
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: Russ and Paul. Hey, how are you guys? Hey, Um, Paul,

761
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: you get a kick out of this because I know you. Um.

762
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I go back and after I watched the game live,

763
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: I watch it on tape and you know it was interesting.

764
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: You remember this play when UM when Jones threw his

765
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: second touchdown pass, it was right into the end zone

766
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: that you were standing at on the sideline, right, So

767
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: the the the the the game you know that was

768
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: on TV. It has you a lot of people are

769
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: not going to see this, but because I go back

770
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: and watch the whole thing, and I slowed it down

771
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: a couple of times last night, there's you in the

772
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: sideline and as he's making the catch um that Daniel

773
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: Jones threw, You're like, you're fifth bumping the guy next

774
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: to you. I don't know who that was. It was

775
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: some giant had some giant gear on. Not sure who.

776
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: You're sure you know who was, but but you're standing

777
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: there just as they're making a touchdown and you can

778
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: see you and and the two of you, you know,

779
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: being positive. It was great to see, Paul, because listening

780
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: to you for all these years, you know, one of

781
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: the things that makes you so good at what you

782
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: do is the fact that you're passionate about what you do.

783
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: So it was it was a nice moment to watch

784
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: you in the background. I'm sure you'll go back on

785
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: the and see that. You can see that for yourself. Well,

786
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't mean to do that,

787
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: but quite frankly, I love the game so much that

788
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: when I see a quality play, and a good play succeed,

789
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: you know, I I just eat it up. So yeah,

790
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: if you know, we can't be too demonstrative down there,

791
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: as you understand, But a simple fist pump is nothing

792
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: that anyone's going to sneeze at. So and that's about

793
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: the extent of what I'm allowed to do, if you understand.

794
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: And and Dave, I am gonna know. The league doesn't

795
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: need me doing the back flips on the sideline. I

796
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: know I would like to see that. I would definitely

797
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: like to see. But Dave, let me say this, Um,

798
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: Paul brings it. And I say this without bias. I

799
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: say it because it's the truth. Paul brings his passion

800
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: as a reporter. He brings his passion as a fan

801
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 1: each and every day. Uh, he wears it on his sleeve.

802
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: And I will also say this without a doubt in

803
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: my mind. And I'm covering his team for thirty one years. Nobody,

804
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: especially today, nobody knows the giants in the media better

805
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: than this guy. Nobody, but nobody, Dave Paul Paul. If

806
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't clear, my my only comments here were extremely

807
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: positive about you being there. It was it was just

808
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: the crack up you know, watching it on the TV

809
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: side and seeing you in the background, and you were

810
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: extremely reserved. Well well, well hold now hold on a second. Way,

811
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: that's what you lost. You see, wait just a minute.

812
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: That as uh my buddy here, Mike Pison would say,

813
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: go sit go sit Dave next to Paul in the

814
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: press box watching the Giants game when it's not going well.

815
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: First of all, this arm, this arm is killing me.

816
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: It's already an atrophy because of the punches and the

817
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: shoves and the neurosis that I gotta deal with on

818
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: a regular basis. Okay, So please, okay, buddy, do you

819
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: have a question. I just want to ask Paul. I

820
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,760
Speaker 1: want to ask one of the questions. Yes, yes, um,

821
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: and and and that is oh he's gone. Uh they

822
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: called back and get him on, Dave. For some reason,

823
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: we lost connection. We I promise we'll put you back

824
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: on if you call us right back. In the meantime,

825
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: let's two three is a number in the meantime. While

826
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: we're waiting, let's go the Big ev in Maryland. Hello, Big,

827
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: you're on with Russ and Paul. Hey, guys, how you doing.

828
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: What's up? Yeah? What's up? Buddy? Hey, Big Paulie, how

829
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: are you throwing over there? Hello? Good to talk to

830
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: you again the day My goodness. Uh okay, guys, apparently

831
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: I had to come on and say it, so I'm

832
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: here to say it. It's not about execution, it's about preparation.

833
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: If you're not prepared. Now, Jabriel said he likes what's

834
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: been called when we just haven't been playing like we've

835
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: been called what we've been called. So if you're not

836
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: playing what you've been called, you gotta do it. And

837
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: then the biggest thing, Yeah, you's go right, we definitely

838
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: need to go to that fourth three. What would be

839
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: even stronger at now to keep the doll game is

840
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: the defense a lot, especially against the Zekiel Elliott question.

841
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: We yep, I would definitely load up. You. You want

842
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: a big lineup defensively, you want the beef against the Cowboys, So,

843
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: to be perfectly frank with you, I would have considered

844
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: trying to four or three against them anyway, even before

845
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: said trade would would take place. Exactly, I'm definitely down

846
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: for it. But I'm gonna tell y'all, I don't care

847
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: when anybody say. You gotta understand from a football perspective,

848
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: if you don't have a winning coach. You're not expected

849
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: to win because he hasn't won yet, so he doesn't.

850
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: He's not he's not the guy for us. I'm sorry.

851
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't need no disrespect. I don't mean no hum.

852
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: I love my family, my giants, and my family. This

853
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: guy here, man, he's not a proven winner, and I

854
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: don't know what the rust was to get him. He

855
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: hasn't been proven. Well, we need a real winning coach.

856
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: We need a real coach to coach this team because

857
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: this team is actually I mean I looked at everything,

858
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: particularly the first game. We're getting better on offense and

859
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: we're scoring more points, but our defense is somewhere in

860
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: the in the lost planet somewhere. They're playing like that

861
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: in New Jersey farm field somewhere way over on the

862
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: other side coast Ohio. Something. Well, let's let's listen. Got

863
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: to get this thing together. And the only way it

864
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: comes together we need a general. And I'll say this,

865
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: if you bring in I'm not even against it, but

866
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: I would be okay, we'll bring it in. Gerald Um,

867
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: bring back our body, bring out God buddy who was

868
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: a great office coordinator, who did he don't have to

869
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: be our head coach. Who are you talking about? Um? Gerald? Um?

870
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: When the Super Bowl with I'm sorry he came to

871
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: get his name. Kevin gilbri Kevin Gilbride is is GM

872
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: and president and head coach of the XFL's new New

873
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: York team, the Guardians. Right now, he's got a job.

874
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: He's got a job. Let's win a championship. We don't

875
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: need a real guy in there. Man, they really do it.

876
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: I think let's listen, big and thank you for the call.

877
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: Thank you for the call. But let's listen, uh when

878
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: they're losing and they're you know, and you're on a

879
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: full game losing streak. Pat Shermer is not gonna shy

880
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: away from criticism, Okay, but I I think you're being

881
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: a little unfair to say, um, this guy can't do

882
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: it or he's not a general. I don't. I don't

883
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: buy that, Okay. I I just don't. And you know, uh,

884
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: that's not uh, that's not that's not a bias. I

885
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: think that's we're talking. This is eight games into a season,

886
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: and as far as last season goes with, we're talking

887
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: about a situation it's been we just made a colossal

888
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: move and historic franchise history. Move three games into the

889
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: season with a new quarterback. That's one okay. I mean,

890
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: you know, let's let's talk about other things. If we're

891
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna talk and again, not now, somebody could say, well,

892
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: here we go, will make an excuses. You have the

893
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: young quarterback coming in the third game of the season,

894
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: You didn't have Golden Tate for the first four games

895
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: of the season. You had your star running back out

896
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: for three games of the season. You know, I mean,

897
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: let's be reasonable here. No one's no one's given anybody

898
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 1: a pass, not the coaches, not the players, not anybody.

899
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: But to say it can't be and I think that's

900
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: a little uh over the top. Let's go to James

901
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 1: in New River. Hey, fellas, how are you doing today? Good?

902
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: How are you doing? Hi? I'm doing well. Um, I'll

903
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: be I'll try to keep it short. Um. You know,

904
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: I had my my own theories as while we're struggling,

905
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: But I do think it's important to remember as a

906
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: fan base. Um No, I think we are kind of

907
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: leading the league with that money this year. I'm not

908
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: sure the exactly reson I but I'm pretty sure. Um,

909
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: we're we're really behind the ball. On that. So we're

910
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: paying players that aren't m team, which means you need

911
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: to get more value out of people who are being

912
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: paid less, which is asking a lot. Um. Aside from that,

913
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: our top players, one of them on the top paid

914
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: players that we are paying is on the one of

915
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: them's you know, been replaced Eli and the others Nate

916
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Folder who gets beat every game multiple times typically a

917
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: turnover results from it. Um, there's no value there. And

918
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: we during this process of rebuilding, we've brought in some

919
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,799
Speaker 1: some really nice players. You know, We've got Barkley, We've

920
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: got Loal Hernandez, Deeitler, Dexter, Lawrence Peppers. Um. But what

921
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: I would say is you forgot one by the name

922
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: of Jones. Right. Well, obviously Jones, I've just been a

923
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: little through the struggles. UM, so I'm I'm very optimistic

924
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: about that. UM. So you know, I'm actually glad he's

925
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: going through some of the struggles, just um to see

926
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: how he responds, and it seems like he's doing a

927
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: good job. But I would say, out of all the

928
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: players I just listed, analytics would say that we improved

929
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: the least important positions um on the field. So we

930
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: have good players. Our best players are at positions that

931
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: don't really affect the outcomes of games. So we have

932
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: good guards, we have a good safety, we have a

933
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: decent developing you know, promising you know, the lineman, and

934
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: we brought another one into that would be nice. Um

935
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: and obviously the storky class we focus on on corner.

936
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: So you know there's going to it's just a process.

937
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: But the players we do have right now or at

938
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 1: positions that really don't move in the go on the

939
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: wins and losses. So that was my main thing I

940
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up. Well, I mean, I I don't

941
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: know that you can say that if you want to

942
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: say that in some places. I mean I really what

943
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: I really like, um with Barkley is just more creativity. Um,

944
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, getting him messed up one on one with linebackers.

945
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 1: I know we did it against the Lions and um

946
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: he tripped on what would have more than likely been

947
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: a long touchdown reception. Um. But you know watching how

948
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 1: the Packers utilize Adam Jones. Uh, well let's let's James,

949
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: let's be fair for a second. I mean, Quan just

950
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: back in his second game, so you know, let's hold

951
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: on with that you're also talking about when you say

952
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: when you say key position players, I mean you mentioned

953
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: everybody again, you know, just like we were talking about

954
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: bringing in young players, you men, and well we key

955
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 1: players and key positions. You've failed to mention the quarterback. Well, no,

956
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 1: I'm very optimistic about Dan, know John, so obviously he

957
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: is an outlier on I guess you know he goes

958
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: against the point I was making because he's the most

959
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: important position on the field. Yeah, I mean so, well, yes,

960
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,959
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Collectively, Obviously there's an outlier. Evan

961
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: Ingram would work against my my point as well. So

962
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,919
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the team is I'm saying our top

963
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 1: players just happened to be at positions that if you

964
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: were to compare them to the other spots on you know,

965
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, you're not going to say the

966
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: often to guard the most important lineman. Most people would

967
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: say that blindside tackle um or the center you can

968
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: make an argument for, but you know, the our tackles

969
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: are weakness there. There's a whole lot that would take

970
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: me out to philosophical discussion, and you know that's all

971
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: I look, there's a lot going on here and and

972
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: and the broad bay. Use a broad paintbrush to go

973
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: through this philosophical presentation that he just gave us would

974
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: take hours to dissect because there are so many things

975
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: that intertwined with every single one of these points that

976
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: he's trying to make that it becomes very convoluted. I

977
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: would just say, uh, he needs to simplify things a

978
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: whole lot more than what he just tried to do. Charlie,

979
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: your next go ahead. Get him on, Charlie. You got

980
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: to wrap it up as I can. Okay, I agree

981
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: with Paul. The offense is the main problem. Look, we

982
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: gave him Jones, gave him seven points. You take that away. Listen, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie,

983
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: Charlie enough score. Yeah, Charlie, enough, Charlie. Thank you for

984
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 1: the call. You know what, if you want to call

985
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: and talk common sense to a common sense this you Charlie.

986
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 1: You you go on Twitter and you say it was

987
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: going into the I think it was the Patriots game, Eli,

988
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: Eli gives us the best chance to win, but by playing,

989
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: by playing um Daniel, you're only gonna hurt his confidence.

990
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: A kid throws four touchdown passes and you're gonna complain

991
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: about because he gave up the seven points. It wasn't that. Also,

992
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: say Quan who admitted he had a brain lock and

993
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. You've got your eli itis and you

994
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: refused to let it go. And I'm sorry, but you

995
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: can't have a common sense conversation if you're gonna be

996
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: like that all the time, it just can't be done.

997
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: I mean, the kid throws four touchdowns and you want

998
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: to whine about one play. So yeah, Daniel Jones is

999
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: the reason they lost the game because they scored on

1000
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: that touchdown. Daniel Jones is the reason. The other the

1001
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 1: four touchdown passes don't matter. It was the one that

1002
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: they scored on. That's the only one that mattered. Come on,

1003
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: give me a break, you know, Charlie. The only thing

1004
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 1: I would say here is that I'm simply saying the

1005
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: offense should not get a pass, and it does seem

1006
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are willing to do that.

1007
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the offense is the reason. Clearly, the

1008
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: Giants defense has been the major culprit in this season's record.

1009
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: Please don't misinterpret what I said. I'm simply suggesting that

1010
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: the offense is getting a little too much leniency here,

1011
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: because when they need to, when they absolutely need to

1012
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: earlier in games, when they've got to seize control of

1013
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: the tempo of a game, when they've got to, uh

1014
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: put impose their will on the other team, if if

1015
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: you would prefer, they're not doing it. And and how

1016
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 1: does that happen to us? It happens with a steady,

1017
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: power running game and controlling the ball and the clock

1018
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 1: and the time of possession and telling the other team,

1019
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 1: guess what, we're gonna take this fight to you today,

1020
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,959
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna be able to dictate to our

1021
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: team what's going to happen over the next two and

1022
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: a half hours. And the Giant's offense hasn't done that.

1023
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: No one's gonna dispute that. So but but Charlie's taking

1024
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: it way too well. But that that's all the time.

1025
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 1: You know, David Deal will be sitting next to me

1026
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: and he'll tell David Deal how an offensive lineman is

1027
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: supposed to play at stop. Okay, let's not be stupid here.

1028
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: You're talking about kids throws four touchdown passes, and you're

1029
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: gonna say Daniel Jones is the reason they lost the game.

1030
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: The discussion stops right there. But what it also stops

1031
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: right here is today's show. I want to thank everybody

1032
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: for being part of it. Thanks to my buddy at

1033
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: the controls, Pierson Butler, my real good buddy here, Pauli Dots,

1034
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: Paula Tino um russ Alsburg, and most of all, thanks

1035
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: to you, because without you, we'd have nobody to here

1036
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: to talk to. So I'm with you tomorrow. Always remember

1037
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 1: the number is two zero one nine three nine four

1038
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: five one three. See you tomorrow