WEBVTT - The Troy "SMACK" Mitchell episode 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:02.040 But all right, job. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:08.080 All across the USC Compton, Watts Bay to LA. Come 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.360 on to California day from out in the valley, we 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.680 represent that Keller County. So if you're keeping it real 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.520 on your side of your town, you tune into Gainst 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:18.800 the Chronicles. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:22.520 Chronic Goals. We gonna tell you how. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:23.280 Are we goals? 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.480 If I lie my nose will girl like Pinocchio. We're 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:28.760 gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the choose. 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.879 Gangs the chronic goals. 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I got my 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.640 dog from comt and sit next to me shure today, Man, 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.120 we got a special guests on show eight, got a 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.399 couple of special guests, but we got the primary guests. 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:18.039 Man the dude. 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.440 Man is pretty much responsible for a lot of things 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.680 Man that you see going on today. Man often imitated, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:31.160 never duplicated. Man, we got smack in the building. Yeah, 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.360 you know, no Man, when they hit me up, Man 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.280 for the thing, asked me if I want to do this? 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:38.440 I said, hell yeah. It don't need to be no question. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.560 Y'all should just be calling me. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:43.360 Asked me what day and what times? The chronicles many 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.560 I'm saying, you know, we gat up from the feed up. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:46.840 Man. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.320 You know I have to check in, you know what 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.160 I mean, tap in with y'all. Man, what's up for Shell? 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.800 For Shell for Shure? Man, So y'all got something going down? 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.440 Man on the end of this month. Man on the 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.600 twenty seventh, Man, it's like the Super Bowl for Battle 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:00.080 Wrap though. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.360 We're both for Battle Raps summer. Man, that's thirteen going 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.160 down August twenty seventh. You know what I'm saying, Houston, Texas, 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.320 I'm about to shake up the building. I'm about to 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:11.040 shake up the culture. I'm about to shake up the 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:14.040 city of Houston. You know what I'm saying. Houston is 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:15.959 just definitely like you know what I'm saying. One of 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.720 my favorite cities just due to the fact of all 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.799 the hospitality showed me every time I come through. You 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.400 know what I'm saying, And you know what I mean, 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.480 A lot of OG's come from you know what I mean, 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:26.520 that particular city. 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:27.600 So you know what I mean. 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.480 I just want to, you know, show my love and 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.840 my respect and my homage to you know what I mean, 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:34.000 the city of Houston. That's why I chose to actually 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.079 have the SAMMA man this thirteen event there this year. 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:39.320 You know, I always try to go to Houston one 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.720 time a year at least, you know what I mean, 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:43.919 just to you know, show the city some love. 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:45.920 And it's time. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:46.720 It's time. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.079 It's time. August twenty seventh, we out there. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.160 You know what I mean, Houston is a live city. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.240 Man. We don't kind of go back to your history, man, 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:59.280 because you've done so many pivotal things for the culture. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.040 You one of those people man, when they look back 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:05.040 on the pantheonic hip hop man, when they paint that 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.800 picture man, whatever that looked like, they damn sure got 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.240 to leave the room for you at the table, dog because. 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.440 You respectfully, like you know what I'm saying, Like, you 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:14.880 know what I mean, I put a lot of blood, 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.079 sweating tears. I dedicated my life to this shit, man, 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:22.000 So respectfully, my presence gotta be there, man, Like you 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.440 know what I mean, if it's real, if it's authentic, 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.560 if it's something you know what I'm saying, Like something 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.959 that's really official, I gotta be there, man, You know 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:32.040 what I mean, real, for. 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:33.600 Sure, for sure, for sure. 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:33.880 Man. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.280 I want to ask you, man, before we go into 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:41.400 all your ventures and your accolades. Man, what was Smack 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.400 doing before the Smack DVD series? 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:44.680 Oh? 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:49.720 Man, before the Smack DVD series? You talking to you 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:57.320 talking nineteen ninety nine and down. You know what I'm saying. 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.680 I was just basically, you know, coming up, cooking up 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.400 the master plan, you know what I'm saying, meditating, trying 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.880 to bring you know what I'm saying, this whole everything 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.280 that you're seeing into fuition, everything that you've seen. I 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.480 basically was in the process of, like you know what 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.320 I'm saying, just thinking it out, trying to figure out 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.800 how I was gonna actually bring it into fuition, you know, 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.600 working hustling at the same time, had a job, did 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.000 my little weed thing on the side, just trying to 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:27.480 get extra money. So I could get the equipment necessary 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.520 for me to do what the fuck I do, And 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.040 you know, yeah, that's what I was doing, man, just 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.320 just just trying to figure it out, you know, yeah 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:37.960 what it is. 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:38.279 Man. 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.800 I tell people, Man, you have to let your fay 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:45.400 job feel your dreams facts. Don't stop working your job. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:47.520 You know, you gotta still keep some income coming in. 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.680 So when did you have the idea of man to 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.400 kick the whole smack brand off? 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.719 When I was at work, man, you know what I'm saying, 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:57.440 I was a janitor before you know what I'm saying. 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.240 I began, like you know what I mean, doing what 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:00.600 the fuck I was doing when I was working for 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:04.720 the Border Education in New York City, fucking mopping hallways, 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:10.200 cleaning bathrooms, cleaning, cleaning up after these dirty ass kids 0:05:10.279 --> 0:05:12.280 and shit like that. Like when I say these kids 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:14.760 are dirty, I'm talking about I was in an elementary school. 0:05:15.279 --> 0:05:16.599 These little niggas dirty. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:18.600 Man. They used to have shit on a ceiling, like 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:20.279 how do you get shipped on a ceiling? 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.320 Like what are you doing? 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.440 And it was me responsible of cleaning that shit up 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:27.360 to make sure that, you know what I mean, my 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.240 job was complete. But like I remember like you know 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:33.040 what I'm saying. This Basically I work one day just 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:37.000 mopping the hallways, just thinking to myself, like, yo, man, 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:39.120 I got a fucking brain. Man, I don't need to 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:42.000 be doing this shit. Man, I don't gotta do this shit. 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.480 I got a brain, like I feel. I really felt 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.719 that way, Like, Yo, this shit is this. 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:48.960 Shit is whack. I mean I was getting paid good 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.480 money though it was a good job, Like you know 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:51.800 what I mean. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.039 Back then, I was getting like you know what I mean, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.600 twenty thousand an hour and this is like you know 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.040 what I'm saying, nineteen, Like this is like two thousand, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.640 nineteen ninety nine, two thousand. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.680 Back then, twenty thousand hours. 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.520 Was was was a big money. Oh that was a 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.680 good job man, and you had pretty good benefits all something. Ya. 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:11.080 Back then, that shit was good money. That shit was 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:12.440 a good job. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.400 But like it still didn't do nothing for me because 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.760 of the manual labor that I had to basically do. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.600 It was just like yo, nah, this ain't me. Like 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.240 you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna put my brain 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.000 to work. I'm gonna do something that I got a 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.400 passion for, something that I love to do. And I'm 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.520 gonna get it popping. And I was dead as serious. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.920 I used to have conversations with myself because I used 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:34.120 to work after the school was like you know what 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.800 I mean, let out, so like you know what I'm saying, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:38.719 after the school was over, I had to clean up 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.920 the whole fucking school, like you know what I mean. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:43.080 I had my floor that I had. I was responsible, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:44.360 and you know what I'm saying. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:48.240 I just remember like hallways long, mopping and shit, just 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.800 talking to myself like yo, man, this shit is whack man. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.200 Like I need, I need, I need more than this life, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.040 like it's more than this. So you know what I'm saying. 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.120 I just came up with, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.640 the concept of creating a DVD magazine, which was a magazine, 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:05.400 you know what I mean, back in the days, you 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:07.720 know what I'm saying, when the DVD technology was out, 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:11.040 Like you know what, Mandy, every DVD you used to 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:11.720 have chapters. 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.800 On DVDs, there's different chapters you can skip through. 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:15.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:19.120 I just made everybody have their own little segment on 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:20.880 every chapter, you know what I mean. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.720 So I got with like you know what I'm saying 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:24.320 all of the. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.800 Necessary hip hop dudes that I knew that I had 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.520 relationships with, and I threw the camera on them. You 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.760 know what I'm saying. I was also hustling too. I 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:35.880 did my little week thing, but I wasn't no big hustler. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.840 I ain't make millions. I make good money, but like 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:40.680 I ain't even gonna talk about that because I want 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.360 glorify that shit. But I mean, at the end of 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:48.440 the day, though, like you know, it fascinated me when 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.440 I used to do my runs and shit on the street, 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.880 you know what I mean. Like I used to read magazines, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.160 like video maker magazines, and it fascinated me when I 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.840 could see that you could actually purchase a camcorder and 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.560 and basically like import your footage inside the computer and 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.000 make your edits and shit like that. That's like a 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:08.320 video DJ I took. You know, that shit was hot 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.880 to me, you understand what I'm saying. She was dope 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.720 and shit in the world. So that shit made me, 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.800 like you know what I'm saying, take a liking to it. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.040 Got the necessary equipment that I needed because you know 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.720 what I'm saying. You know, back then, the cameras cost 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.760 a lot of money. You know what I'm saying, Three 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.760 three thousand, two thousand for a camera. Back then, that's 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.080 not a lot of money now, But we're talking early 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:33.120 early two thousand ninety nine, you know what I mean. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:34.959 Back then, that shit was a lot of money. Like 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:36.640 you have to figure that shit out. How you're gonna 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:37.400 get two stacks? 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:37.520 Like? 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:38.120 You know what I'm saying. 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.160 You know, twas steal a nice little mama changed today, 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.240 you know, for out there working every week. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:43.760 You know what i mean. 0:08:44.240 --> 0:08:46.800 Listen, Man, we in twenty twenty three, so like right now, 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.000 that shit ain't ship. But back then, that shit was 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:51.120 like damn, How'm gonna do this? You have to figure 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.680 that shit out, you. 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:55.160 Know what I'm saying. So I made it happen. 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:57.839 I got the necessary equipment just off the passion that 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.720 I had and the interest that I had for the technology. 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.280 And then, you know what I'm saying, got the equipment, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:05.280 you know what I'm saying, hustle up, scammed the equipment 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.480 and really went to work. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:09.360 I put that equipment to work. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.960 It never looked back. So that's how the smack DVD 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:12.840 series started. 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.599 You know what I mean, Man, I think do you 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.240 ever sit back, Troy and just wonder sometimes? Man, you 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:21.160 look at all the stuff like you look at YouTube 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.319 right now. YouTube is a huge platform for new and 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:29.959 emerging artists as well as you know, veteran artists like 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.560 I was talking off are you were pretty much YouTube 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:35.400 before there was a YouTube. You brought the hood into 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.719 the living rooms from the middle of America and to 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.719 the south, into the east, you know, west coast. You 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.080 had a pretty much cut a worldwide over in Berlin 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:44.640 and Jeremany. I remember when I was out in the 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.640 United Kingdom Man, maybe two thousand and six. They was 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:49.960 talking about it was a dude in the street selling 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:50.920 your DVDs. Dog. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.360 I was outside like your DVDs dog exactly. 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:01.559 I was outside before they was outside. Like listen, you 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:02.040 know what I mean. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:09.080 I was the bible of the culture of hip hop before. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.600 You know what I'm saying, the YouTube before the world stars, 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.800 before any of the you know mean streaming platforms that's 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:18.000 out right now. Like you know what I mean, if 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.160 you wanted the information of what was going on inside 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.199 the hip hop culture, you had to tap in and 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.880 go copy Smack DVD to get the latest news or 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:31.920 how you know what I'm saying, your your favorite hip 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.760 hop artist felt or whatever your hip hop artist was 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.839 going through if they was promoting a project, like you 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:40.240 had to come and get a Smack DVD d see 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.720 what was going on because I was getting a shit 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:43.760 that wasn't on. 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.120 The bets and the mtvs. You know what I'm saying. 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:49.439 I'm really like, you know what i mean, tapped in, 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:51.720 you know what I'm saying, running around with these dudes. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.520 I'm in they studio sessions, I'm in their neighborhoods, I'm 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.000 on the flights, in the private jets with them, just 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.839 showingcasing the reality of like you know what I'm saying, 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.800 goes on behind the music or behind you know, the coaching, 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.400 you understand. And I did it respectfully with you know 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.199 what I'm saying. It was uh, you know, respected in 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:15.160 a way where everybody just loved the the the point 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:17.320 of view, you know what i mean, because they didn't 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:20.360 they didn't have they didn't have that access before the 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.559 Smack DVD. They never had that access, you understand what 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.920 I'm saying, So you know they had to basically tap 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.719 in with me, just to see what was going on 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:30.440 with their favorite artists. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.560 You know, Smack, I wanted to ask you. I wanted 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.480 to ask you when I first met you was Maserati Fox. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:41.679 To twelve r p R let me to twelve with 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.040 So where was we. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:43.480 In, Queen? 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.320 Because I always tell people where was that? I don't 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:45.720 know Queen? 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.240 Where was that that was in? 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:51.520 That was in that was off of off of Rockaway 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:56.680 and something and in the projects right there. I forget 0:11:56.760 --> 0:11:58.720 what they was called, like you know what I'm saying, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.280 for Rockaway and something Boulevard, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.839 you know, the little the little projects or for something 0:12:05.880 --> 0:12:09.000 in Rockaway, you know what I mean, little housing complex. 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.880 I don't call it the projects, but the complex. You 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:13.439 know what I'm saying. We just tapped in. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:14.160 You know. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.520 Fox was definitely you know what I'm saying, you know, 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.000 running around at the time, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.040 really trying to you know what I mean, get you 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.319 know what I mean, his his movement off the ground, 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.920 you know, and I was there their system, so you 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.280 know what I'm saying. I gave him a look. We collaborated, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:30.760 you know what I mean. And you know I just 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.120 gave him that look that he needed this to like, 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.680 you know, really like you know, have people pay attention 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.800 to like what he was trying to bring to the game. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.120 Reason why I'm saying that because back then to do 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.199 this culture, you had to be outside. You had to 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.120 be outside. Now, this is my first meet and you, 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:55.760 and historically back that was me, you Beasley, Trave, picture Perfect, 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:56.600 and Fox. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.760 That's why I tried to just shout out to Trave. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.800 I'm saying, so now when you look black, we all 0:13:01.920 --> 0:13:03.199 went on to do our things. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:07.719 Don't forget wrecked, don't get don't forget you know. 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.640 Yeah, what I wanted to know, Bro is on First 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.040 of all, I ain't know we had bloods in New 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.160 York City. I found out that day for I didn't 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:23.920 know we had Yeah, it's crazy with shot recipes of 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.319 the homie fo you know what I'm saying, it was 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.040 a lot of them. How do you feel now that 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.600 anybody could just jump on camera and just document the culture, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.000 but they didn't have to hit the streets. You know, 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.040 at one point when we did certain things, you was 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.160 held accountable for what you said in the street. How 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.360 do you feel now? Dudes, don't get held accountable for 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:43.319 some of the things they say. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.280 I mean, you know, we live in a different age 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:48.360 right now, Like you know what I'm saying. Everything is different, 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:49.560 you know what I mean, the time, in. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:55.800 The culture, like the perception, the technology, everything is. 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:58.160 It's a different world. Like you know what, I'm shit that, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:00.839 Like you know what I'm saying. We didn't have didn't 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:05.199 even like exist of what's going on right now. So 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.439 it's like these kids grew up different than what we did, 0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:12.160 Like you know what I'm saying, Like you, like you said, 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.360 we really had to be outside. Like now, you outside 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.360 is just basically putting a funk on in front of 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.240 your face and actually talking shit. And you outside, you 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:22.560 post that shit on the ground, you get views every 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.200 you outside. That's not outside, my nigga. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:26.240 You know what I'm saying. 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:29.400 Like I tell niggas, I was at gunpoint more than 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.200 anybody in the motherfucking world. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:32.920 That's why I wanted to That's why I want to 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.720 let people know we understand what I'm saying. Like outside, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:40.480 when we went to this area, we went to this area, well, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.760 I was like, what the fuck is this? I'm a 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.680 Brooklyn dude, but I'm looking all I see is red. 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.360 Like three hundred dudes. We went to parks, we went 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:51.920 to places, but smack with spearhead and the whole thing. 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.920 And I was like, nah, this shit different, this shit different. 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.520 So when people think he just a guy that do 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:02.400 battle rap, ain't from the trenches of what y'all have 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.760 no idea. And I don't think many of you if 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:06.760 you had to do what he did, what I had 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:08.600 to do to get on, you wouldn't even do it. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.240 You wouldn't even do it because it's easy just to 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.320 put a camera in your face and talk, but you 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.320 had to be outide. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.680 Nah, yo, listen, man. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.280 And I try to explain to dudes all the time, 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.960 like you know what I mean, They don't even know 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.720 to have. Like that's something like I got tucking, I 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:26.480 got tucking in the. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.520 Stash, like all the footage. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.360 I got so much footage that I didn't release. You 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.680 know what scares me the most, man, You know what 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.800 scares me the most, what excuse me the most is 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.640 when I go back and all kinds, when I look 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.720 at the footage, I see so many niggas that's not. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.400 Here, no more right here. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.560 That shit is so it's spooky yeah, Bookie, Like I 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.400 look at the content and I'm like, Damn, he's gone. 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:57.560 He's going, he's going, he's doing life. He's locked up, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.120 He's gone this one, you know. 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:00.360 What I mean. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.480 It's crazy, though, Doug, and need to still be here 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:09.320 and you know, surviving and still striving on my mission 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:13.320 of creating content and you know, just bringing that realness 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:15.000 to the culture as far as like you know what 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.800 I mean, a content creator and just doing something else 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.360 that you know what I mean is just more laid 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:27.480 back and mellowed out, which is battle rap. I just 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.480 feel blessed, and I'm just glad that I'm still here, man, 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:34.720 you know, and you know, I'm just trying to just 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:36.560 you know what i mean, just building it as much 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.560 as possible. I'm still building on my legacy. I haven't 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:44.760 yet sit back and stopped to watch all my accolades 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.840 of what I accomplished. I'm still working. I still feel young. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:52.200 You know, I'm in the best shape of my life. 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:54.040 You know what I'm saying. I still feel like I 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:57.200 got another twenty thirty in mes man, you know what 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:57.720 I'm saying. 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.280 Let me ask, and I'm. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:00.240 Twenty and I'm twenty. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.600 Yeah, I'm one and twenty in because you know what 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:06.640 I mean, the first DVD came out two thousand and two, 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.240 two thousand and two thousand and two, so I'm like 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:09.920 twenty one in. 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:14.000 You had some of the most historical battles on DVD. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:18.800 See people don't even know that error was different than James's. 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.840 That's what Jen and the serious Jones that that Ian 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.440 Solomon you had. 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.240 Dog yo yo, when when when? 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:27.520 When? 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.080 When? When I talk about like. 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.280 Having a like you know what I mean the battles 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:39.680 that I like, I started the coaching, like the way 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:47.119 I started the coaching. Like there wasn't battle rap on camera, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.000 a cappella though a cappello the nott no beat. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.240 I mean not talking about battling on beat. 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:53.040 That's not what we do. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:55.840 You know, dude like that, I mean we respect that, 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:58.800 and you know I might I fuck with it too, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.840 I fuck with it. But like I'm talking about acapella, 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:04.840 like how we used to street, how we used to 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.800 do it in the lunch rooms, how we used to 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:11.480 do it in the barber shops where we're from. You know, 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.320 the clo you know the cloth that we cut from, 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:15.760 you know, I mean New York City, hip hop. 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:18.920 Yo, Yo, your man nice, bring him over here. I 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:19.920 got ten stacks. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:25.280 That cloth, that cloth, that's the cut, that's the cloth 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.560 that I'm cut from. Like at the end of the day, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.960 that's what we represent. I was the first to get 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.320 that on camera to promote around the world. 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:36.439 Do my platform on a smack DVD. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:43.879 You did your brother Love Brother Loves Joint. 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.040 Hosting my joint just because your smack Yo. Come on 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:48.960 smack were yo, just off the love smack Yo. We're 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:50.720 gonna get this ship pop and come to daddy out. 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.280 We're gonna boom, Jay Mills. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.760 One of the things out here y'all talk about is 0:18:56.800 --> 0:19:01.760 the culture, right and we in the fifty years deep 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.480 in hip hop right now right, I'm an og dog. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:06.680 I'm fifty three years old. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:06.880 Dog. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.000 I can remember when you know, hearing my first hip 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:13.040 hop record, right, and back then, the cardinal rule was 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:13.720 no biting. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.239 Everybody had to be a rigid yo. 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.239 You get yo, you bite, you get fucked up. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:20.320 Yeah for real. You know you can. 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:24.400 They coming to see you if you If you bit 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.720 biting like you, you you getting. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:30.720 Approached, Yeah for sure. And I wanted to leave that 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:35.320 as a little segue into something. When you created smack, 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:41.200 there were a slew of other water down versions of smack. 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.639 They came to the street. Not this is nobody else, but. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.240 You got copy that imitate it, you know, they say 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.720 imitations of you know, purest form of flattery. I don't 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:53.760 know though I see this disrespect kind of. 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:54.919 What was. 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:08.639 I love you now with you but not at the 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:12.879 end of the day, you know, Yeah, imitation is the 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.520 greatest form of flattery. And yeah, after I came out, 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:19.000 a lot of a lot a lot of people didn't 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.000 you know what I mean, you know, immolated, you know 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:23.119 what I mean, my format, my style and ship like that. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:28.879 You know, it is what it is, like I showed 0:20:29.000 --> 0:20:31.000 the culture how to get money in a certain way. 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.240 M hm. You understand what I'm saying. 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:36.920 They just took a page out of my book and 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:39.240 did what they had to do. You know what I'm saying. 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.000 I don't I don't knock that ship. I'm not never 0:20:42.119 --> 0:20:43.000 mad at that ship. 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:45.240 As long as they did it and they own original 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.640 way to like ghost say, ghost Face said it the best. 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:51.080 Shout out to my uncle Ghosts. 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:53.439 You know what I mean, ghost Face killers, yo, man, yo, 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.440 just do your own ship, man, and you know what 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:58.720 I mean, and be original, alon as you got originality 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:00.840 in your ship, like you know what I mean, your 0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:03.480 original with what you do, then I don't have a problem. 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.680 But don't do exactly what the fuck I do? 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:08.080 You understanding at. 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.040 Least throw your own spin to the ship, bring something 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:12.560 to add something new to the ship. 0:21:13.040 --> 0:21:14.560 Don't just do what the fuck I do. 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:17.920 I'm going through the same ship right now and the 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:19.840 culture that I'm in, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:25.000 let me slow down, let me, let me. 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.480 Let me, let me still, let me ask them something 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.159 so and also, Smack, you have a lot of street 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:36.480 dudes that you change their life, right, change their life, 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.720 I say all the time, y'all niggas gotta remember nine 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.680 minutes of rhymes and you might get from five thousand 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:47.440 dollars to fifty thousand, and you can't remember that ship. 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:50.159 You get more than Jadakiss for an hour set and 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:54.080 you can't remember nine minutes of rhymes. It's time, Smack, 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:56.720 where you had to? I can't eat that. 0:21:56.880 --> 0:22:00.760 That's my favorite, you know, Oh you know that sh 0:22:01.640 --> 0:22:03.800 That shit might be on my fucking tombsto. I can't. 0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:12.560 Oh, were the business did you think the business would 0:22:12.640 --> 0:22:14.879 be so hard for so many of these brothers to grasp. 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.600 And the business means the money, the finances, the paperwork. 0:22:18.119 --> 0:22:23.399 They don't understand that concept of paperwork and W nine's 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:25.320 and all that. How hard has it been to try 0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.560 to get some of these individuals to understand we do 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.720 this for the love of the culture, but it's still business. 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:32.400 Yeah. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:37.760 I try to bring that home to these dudes all 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.520 the time because, like you know what I'm saying, at 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:42.600 the end of the day, you know what I mean. 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:46.480 You know, these people want their money. You know what 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.040 I mean. It's modern day slavery. 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:48.360 Man. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.840 They not letting nobody eat just to eat. You understand 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.200 what I'm saying. You gotta pay them taxes, man, And 0:22:55.320 --> 0:22:57.320 that's a form of slavery. Like you know what I'm saying, 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.480 because you know, at the end of the day, still 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:06.800 say that the time. Listen, man, they need their PC. 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.760 I don't give a fuck if you make five dollars, 0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.040 I want two fifty. 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:15.200 That's how they just how that's how this government give 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:17.320 it up. You understand what I'm saying. 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:21.480 And I can't be responsible for nobody else. I only 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:23.400 I only could be responsible for my ship. 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.359 You know what I'm saying. Everybody gotta you. 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.160 Know what I mean, be grown men and take care 0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:30.440 and handle the weight. You know, they make their own 0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.280 decision or however they want to move. But like I 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:35.000 know that you ain't gonna be able to make no 0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.320 money if you owe these people money. 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:40.680 So I just make sure that you know what I'm saying. 0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:44.440 My tasers crossing, my eyes has dotted, and everybody else 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.560 is on their own time. But it's definitely a business, 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:50.840 you know what I'm saying, Because you know what I'm saying, 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.639 any dollar that is going into your account got to 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:54.359 be accounted for. 0:23:54.920 --> 0:23:56.840 And that's just basically what it is. 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.760 You feel me, And you know, I explain that to. 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.520 I explain that to all these dudes, and I try to, like, 0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:05.879 you know what I'm saying, you know, just me being older, 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.720 just me being a you know, you know, a role 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.040 model to a lot of these dudes that you know 0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:14.720 what I mean, seeing you know, my accomplishments and see 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:17.600 where I came from and see where you know the 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.200 levels that I took it to and how I took 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.720 it to them levels. It's certain protocols that you got 0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.200 to follow and paying taxes is one of them. You 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:29.920 know what I'm saying, So you gotta basically you know 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.119 what I'm saying. It's a couple of things that you 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:37.080 need on your team, uh, to get money. And that's 0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:38.359 a lawyer, that's accountant. 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:44.399 You know what I mean? Those two. It's key you 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:50.720 feel me so essential for anybody else this last year. 0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:54.960 Also in the culture, you you befriended a lot of people. 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:58.040 You might advanced people money. You might have paid niggas rent, 0:24:58.040 --> 0:25:00.440 You might have did a lot. Yes, some times a 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.280 lot of brothers get mad at you when they not 0:25:02.440 --> 0:25:04.800 on this car. They ain't getting this battle. I just 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.480 but they might not be putting them asking them, you 0:25:08.560 --> 0:25:10.480 know them asses in them seats. They might not be 0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.560 buying the pay for you. How hard has it been 0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.680 for you to tell some of your friends, yo, you're 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.480 not hot right now? Yah, you gotta get hot for 0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:20.760 the people want to see you, because you know, this 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:24.760 man might depend on his battle to feed his family, 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:27.960 but he ain't bringing it. He ain't bringing no heat. 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:31.200 How hard has it been to personally tell some of them? 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:31.359 Yo? 0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:31.920 I can't. 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:33.879 I mean it is a matter for you. 0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:36.760 You know, it cost a lot of tension, you know 0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:39.119 what I'm saying, and the course of my career, you know, 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.440 but at the end of the day, you know, like 0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:44.520 you said, like it's a business. At the end of 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:45.879 the day, Like you know what I'm saying, I got 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.040 to keep the machine going so we all can eat. 0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:52.639 And if you're not in demand at the time, you 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.399 just got to respect that shit, make some adjustments to 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:57.840 make the necessary you know what I'm saying, moves to 0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:00.399 get back in position where mother fuck just want to 0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:07.080 see you understand, So you know, like this shit is 0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:10.560 not personal, it's business, you know what what I'm saying. 0:26:10.600 --> 0:26:12.639 So I had to learn that because I was. 0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.959 On some personal shit for a long time looking out 0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.160 for niggas just you know what I mean, knowing more 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:23.800 fuckers situation might not prepare or might fuck up or 0:26:23.920 --> 0:26:26.679 might not you know what I mean, deliver fucking three rounds. 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:28.800 But you know what I'm saying, I have a liking 0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:29.240 for them. 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.879 I have some type of loyalty for these individuals. 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:34.639 So it's just like, yo, come on, I'm gonna place you. 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.760 But like that shit is over with because that shit 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:44.080 started to like jeopardize my situation of credibility of respect 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:46.320 when it came to the fans and shit like that. 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:48.720 So I had to cut that shit out because you 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:50.080 know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, 0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.199 I'm not gonna let you know what I'm saying nobody 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:58.879 else negligence interrupt my opportunities of what I created and 0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.520 what I established to basically feed my family. 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:02.960 You understand what I'm saying. 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.800 Because you let the fans know that might not know 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.359 that at one particular point you was kind of banned 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:13.239 in New York and no fault to yours. We had 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.840 the Urban Plaza unfortunate incidents, the banger, but then the 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.200 punch and Irvin Plaza too, and you took all the 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.879 blame for the first of all, the fight and that 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.920 took place. You got kicked out of New York and 0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:31.119 then the unfortunate incident happened. So that's one of the 0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.880 reasons why you had to go to Houston. You had 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.280 to travel because you want to the people don't know. 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:37.760 You want to stay home and you want to do 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.160 shit home, but they home wasn't your home for a while. 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:43.600 What you went through with all that shit. 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:48.520 First of all, New York City is just the like 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:51.000 that state is just a fucked up state when it 0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.240 comes to business speak on this. You know what I'm saying, 0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:56.800 as far as let's start with the taxes, Like if 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.440 you live in the Five Boroughs, not only that you 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:01.399 got to pay you know what I'm saying, the fects, 0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:03.560 you gotta pay the Feds federal income. 0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.200 Then you gotta pay the state. 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.359 And if you live in the Five Boroughs, you gotta 0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:09.480 pay the city taxes of New York City. 0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:13.200 Bro, you understand that what I'm saying, You're getting hit 0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:15.320 from three different angles. 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:20.119 Not to mention, you know, the venues and shit like that. 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.240 They scared of us. They don't even want they don't 0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:25.560 even want to give us the business, like you know 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:27.400 what I'm saying, even though I could pack that shit 0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:28.600 out with my eyes closed. 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.119 Half two thousand motherfuckers come up in your motherfucking venue. 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:36.400 Yeah it's a little rowdy, but everybody's coming in peace, 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.719 like they just want to see what they want to see, 0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:39.840 you know what I mean. 0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:41.719 They scared of our kind, like you know what I mean. 0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.320 So like you know what I mean, I feel like 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:44.440 you know what I mean, New York. 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:49.800 Is been discriminating against you know what I'm saying our culture, 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.080 you know what I mean when it comes to like 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:56.760 underground for years, so it's hard for me to secure 0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.880 the venues necessary for us to have a successful event 0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.120 where it makes sense, where I can actually recoup the 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.280 money that you know, what I'm saying is basically being 0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:06.680 allocated out. 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:08.200 To make the event happen. 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.880 You understand what I'm saying, Like it's just the nasty market, 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:14.520 you know what I'm saying all around the board, like 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.760 you know what I'm saying, and then not to even 0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:19.120 mention like I know everybody in the city, so like 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:23.520 it's hard for me to tell niggas no, I can't. 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.680 I just can't tell no too because I was outside. 0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:29.080 Niggas did a lot of shit for me. 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:29.959 Yo. 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:31.120 They good, Yo, he good? 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:31.400 Yo? 0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:32.600 How much he good? 0:29:32.640 --> 0:29:33.000 He good? 0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.320 I don't get no money in New York, bro. 0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.840 And also let the audience know that they might not 0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.360 know they hear about it. Let them know how real 0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.120 them hip hop police is. Let them know how real 0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:44.440 it is. 0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.520 Listen, man, I mean, I just I they knew me 0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.480 for years because of what I did, Like you know 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.480 what I mean, you know, guns and all type of shit. 0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:56.880 You know, Yo, this person got hit. Yo. 0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:57.840 Heard it was on Camra. 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.120 I ain't had nothing to do, Yo, Yo, heard was 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:01.920 on Smack. Y'all get out of here like I wasn't 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:05.720 even out. Youre bugging like they they hip hop police 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.600 is real, Like you know what I'm saying. In case 0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:09.600 you don't know, but you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:12.640 I know some hip hop police and they fuck with 0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:15.880 me like you know what I'm saying. So it's like, Yo, listen, YO, 0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:18.560 We're gonna let you rock your smack. Just make sure this, this, this, 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:21.760 that and the third eye got you boom. That's how 0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.120 I was able to do what I had to do 0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:25.040 for so many years. 0:30:26.320 --> 0:30:27.000 Listen what I'm saying. 0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:28.600 So you know you're laying on. 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:29.680 Some real quick smack. 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.560 You you know, it being hard to do business in 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.880 New York and those other factors that you talked about, 0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:37.960 is that when you started doing more stuff on the 0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:38.560 West Coast. 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.280 Yeah, I was always on the West Coast. I was 0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:42.960 on the West Coast. Since you know what I'm saying, 0:30:43.040 --> 0:30:44.160 it's smack DVDs. 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.240 When I was around there with Game and you know 0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:49.880 what I mean, Game had me and Compton and you know, 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:51.640 you know what I'm saying. 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:52.680 You know, b m F. 0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:54.280 You know what I'm saying. We was out there, like 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.920 I was. We We we had like a lot of ties, 0:30:58.000 --> 0:30:58.160 you know. 0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:01.200 What I'm saying, Mitchie Slick and them, you know, fucking 0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:05.360 m the cartoon, you know what I'm saying, on some tattoo. 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:06.280 All this shit, like you know what I mean. I 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.880 was real diverse with like you know, the content that I. 0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:12.680 Was creating for the West Coast and giving them that 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.680 look on the East Coast and around the world or 0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:20.040 wherever like my arms reached to. You know, I always 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.680 felt that I was always a fan of the West Coast, 0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:25.640 you know, movement as far as like n w A. 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:27.800 You know what I'm saying, ice Cube, you. 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:28.120 Know what I mean. 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.520 Easy, You know what I mean, Doctor Dre You know 0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.520 what I mean. Fucking one of the best, if not 0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.400 the best, producing the world. Like you understand what I'm saying. 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.920 So I felt that it was necessary for me to 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:42.040 have that representation on my platform. 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:43.320 So you know what I'm saying. 0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:45.440 I made it necessary for me to make my way 0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.720 out there, being from the East Coast, you know what 0:31:48.760 --> 0:31:52.200 I'm saying, Just you know, connecting dots and linking up 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.240 with you know what I'm saying, the real dudes out 0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.320 there on that coast and and and really giving them 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.720 that that proper you know what I'm saying, visualization. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.000 So everybody else. 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.640 From the South, from the East, from Central you know 0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:10.400 what I'm saying, America, Europe, Africa, respect, you know what 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:10.680 I mean. 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:13.480 What you know the West Coast was about. You know 0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:14.000 what I'm saying. 0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.760 I had Nissey hustle, like you know what I mean 0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:21.440 before you know what I mean, anybody you know you 0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.120 know that that that that that really you know, took 0:32:24.160 --> 0:32:25.320 it there like I got. 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:27.520 Exclusive shit. 0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.480 I don't even drop with this yet and I still 0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:31.720 got that ship in the top. You know what I'm saying, 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.160 because you know, it's. 0:32:33.680 --> 0:32:36.480 Just something in a time that I felt that like 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:41.240 he was just like the knives are fucking you know 0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:41.680 what I'm saying. 0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:44.120 The West Coast, you know what I'm saying. 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:45.360 And no lovem yo. 0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:46.440 We love him in New York. 0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:47.680 I don't think they're not yo yo. 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.760 Let you that nigga, Like you know what I'm saying, 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.200 God bless the death, but like you know what I'm saying, 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:58.200 like and it's just like he just reminded me so 0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.080 much of Knives from the from from the West Coast. 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.640 It's just like yo, yo dog, your comme here, yo, 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:05.800 you know, let's do some shit, like you know. 0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:06.280 What I'm saying. 0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.120 But he was running around the East Coast like it 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.800 was nothing, you know what I'm saying. Like he was 0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:15.920 outside for rip, you know what I'm saying. So it 0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:17.479 was all love though, you know what I mean. 0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:21.160 Well, yeah, he was definitely doing his thing. Now, when 0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:23.400 did you decide to bring you off into the battle 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:25.960 rap to you are ill? When did you decide the 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:28.760 forum that well what the batter rack? 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:32.280 Yeah? Yeah, when did you decide to form your lead? Oh? 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:34.920 Like that's after, that's after, Like you know what I mean. 0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.560 I always wanted to represent the art form of battle 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:39.680 rap because I felt that it was, like you know 0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:43.120 what I'm saying, essential for that representation of the art 0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:49.840 form of lyricism to be fucking represented worldwide because that's 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.320 what we grew up loving. I consider that hip hop, 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.800 like you know what I'm saying, motherfucker's coming battling each other, 0:33:55.880 --> 0:33:58.560 exchanging rhymes, going bar to bar and shit like that. 0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:00.440 That's in me, you know what I mean. 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.000 From high school when we used to be in a 0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:05.520 motherfucker lunch room, you know, period seven, we in a 0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.880 lunch room. We got these two niggas going at it. 0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:10.200 I bet you know what I'm saying. You know, the 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.840 whole school, they didn't even go to class. Everybody's in 0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:16.080 the motherfucking lunch room just basically just like you want 0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:16.640 to see. 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:17.000 What's going on. 0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.719 So like that representation of like lyricism, I felt that 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:25.320 was necessary for me to represent on my platform, you 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.360 know what I'm saying. So on the DVD, I always 0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.160 made sure that it had its real estate on my DVD. 0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:31.880 At the end of the DVD. If you go to 0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:35.279 any Smack DVD, you go to that last chapter the 0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.120 end of the DVD, you always had a classic battle. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:40.760 That was my signature. 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:45.239 So now when you know World Star came out two 0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.680 thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, you know they 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:53.000 started really blowing up two thousand and seven, two thousand 0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.200 and six, two thousand and seven, World Star came out 0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:56.920 God Bless the Dead Q. 0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.080 You know know, So what I'm saying, he really and 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.759 with you know what I'm saying, the content online he 0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.880 was just basically he started his whole platform, taking all 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:11.640 our ship, taking all our ship, your dog, I'm lying. 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:16.719 That's why he had conversation. 0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:19.000 Why that's why we have with them. 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.480 Mother, Like, yo, how this nigga eat you know, and 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.759 the nigga blew and took it off. He took our ship, 0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.840 popped his ship off with our ship, and then taking 0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:35.120 every everybody sending him ship. So he ain't had to 0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.000 put no work in, you know what I'm saying. 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:39.880 All the content on World Star could have been the 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.200 biggest ship in the world if they would have produced 0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.960 their own content. They never used their own content though, 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.000 so it was like it was this people he grabbing 0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:51.800 clips or he grabbing clipps. 0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:53.280 It was smart, it was genius. 0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.120 It was genius actually, because he ain't had to put 0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:01.200 the man hours the label, flying to the West coast, 0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:04.320 flying to the south, getting up with these artists. 0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.799 These artists don't pick up their phones. Bro, you gotta 0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.560 call a million times before mother fucking pick up his phone. 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:10.759 That's why I stopped doing. 0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.200 What the fuck I do that, you know what I'm saying, 0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:15.239 because it took me too, yo. 0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:21.040 Call I still to this day, don't even call it like, yo, Bro, 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.080 I don't call niggas more than two times. 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:27.600 How good I see you. 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:28.120 When I see you? 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:30.399 Real temperamental people. 0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:30.680 Dog. 0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:33.080 You know I'm not mad at them because you know 0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:34.520 what I mean, Artists deal with a lot. But like 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:36.280 you know what I mean, I'm not calling the nigga 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.719 phone a million. You know I'm calling you see me 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:43.080 calling the dogs. I'm a real nigga too. You understand 0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:45.000 what I'm saying. You're getting money. I'm getting money too, 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:48.280 but you swong my money down not picking up your phone. 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:49.640 You know what I'm sam saying. 0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:51.440 So that's when you know. 0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:56.359 World Star came out, and then the technology came. 0:36:57.680 --> 0:37:00.719 Technology started catching up a time when motherfuckers can have 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:03.960 their own fucking cameras and ship like that. Fucking cameras 0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:07.120 started being on your phone. Motherfuckers was filling pulling out 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:11.680 their phones, catching the artists at gas stations. Motherfuckers, Oh 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.360 ship yo go you go gz yo, GIZI what's up? 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:18.160 And they're fucking post that ship. The blocks don't give 0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:20.600 a fuck. The blogs is taking that footage, putting it 0:37:20.680 --> 0:37:24.240 on they websites just because it's gonna get hits and views. 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:28.080 They didn't care where the content was coming from. Because 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.680 you know what I'm saying, they just want the clicks. 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:30.440 Took us. 0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:33.160 Crazy. 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.120 It was just like, yeah, like. 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:40.480 Artist content started decreasing in value, it started decreasing in value. 0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:44.480 Because it was more exclusive. It's no more exclusive more. 0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.440 It's like, Yo, I'm I'm running around the country. 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.160 I'm flying the South, flying in Atlanta, flying to LA 0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:53.720 flying the fucking Miami, flying to New York, creating a DVD. 0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:56.080 It's taking me four months to fucking put out a 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:59.560 DVD when all the information is being already uploaded on 0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.520 these fucks on websites, just because somebody is asking the 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:04.719 artists that they've seen at the fucking gas station with 0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:08.120 their motherfucking camera phone and they fucking uploading that. All 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.480 the blogs and all the fucking websites is posting that 0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:14.000 because they need content. It just came like, yo, fuck, 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.120 I'm running around chasing artists. For us, I have to 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:18.839 focus on the battles. The battles are something that can't 0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:21.600 be recreated. To answer your question, that's why I started 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.520 the league. I'm like, yo, fuck it, I'm gonna just 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:27.000 do the shit that you know and create a new 0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:30.520 form of hip hop entertainment, which is battle rap, which 0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.480 is you know what I'm saying, the URL And I 0:38:32.600 --> 0:38:34.880 created my league on that because I was just like, yo, 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:37.840 I'm not gonna compete with everybody that you know what 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.520 I mean, May go see fifty cent because fifty cent 0:38:40.640 --> 0:38:42.920 just got that fat Joe or whatever and they just 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:44.480 do the fucking cam on them. 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.680 And now that shit is all over the internet, Like 0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:48.240 I can't compete with the world. 0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:51.320 Yeah, technology man at one point. 0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:56.320 Technology at one point fucked the game up, but it 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.080 made it more broad and it brings the millions of 0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.120 people like I wass thinking about a conversation that I 0:39:03.320 --> 0:39:07.000 was having them with Eight's red partner from CMW The Child, 0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.239 and he was telling me how Aight and Snoop used 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:10.560 to battle back in middle school. 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.080 Dad. Can you imagine if y'all had a camera during 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:14.720 that time. 0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:19.799 Go go oh chatter Uncle Snoop, you know what I mean. 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:22.279 Snoop was one of the realist dudes that I came 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.560 across in this culture. And you know, I'm an uncle too. 0:39:25.760 --> 0:39:27.920 They call me Uncle Smack. I'm in an uncle club, 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.040 you know what I'm saying. There's only a couple of 0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:30.879 uncles in the game. 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:35.400 Read Alert started it read Alert started, Uncle Red started. 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.000 Snoop, Uncle Ross. 0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:40.680 Luke, Uncle Uncle Luke. 0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:47.000 I considered Uncle Bunny, Uncle bun Deez an uncle to me, 0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.640 Like you know what I'm saying, man, uncle smack Man. 0:39:51.000 --> 0:39:52.760 You know what I mean, it's a couple of uncles 0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.360 to being an uncle club. You gotta you gotta be, 0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:56.920 you gotta be, you gotta be cut. 0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:57.760 From a different cloth. 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.279 Charlotte Mane, Charlie. I mean it's trying to be coming 0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:04.360 into the uncle club too, Uncle Sean. But I don't know. 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:11.640 So hip hop flat what he do because the kid 0:40:11.800 --> 0:40:14.120 is different. When it comes to the journalism, you know 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:15.000 what I'm saying, and. 0:40:15.360 --> 0:40:15.839 You know what I mean. 0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:19.560 He he broke down doors. That is incredible. So like 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:20.279 you know what I'm saying. 0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:21.920 I respect it, but like you know. 0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:24.799 What I mean when it comes to street stop, Yeah, yeah, 0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:25.600 what I'm saying. 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:29.359 HIPOs fifty smack hip Hop fifty is here amongst us. 0:40:30.680 --> 0:40:34.640 Do you feel like battle rap is getting the appreciation 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.200 that it needed, specifically what you brought to it in 0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.240 this hip hop fifty landscape, Because we got to be honest. 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.880 For a while, hip hop was fucked up and battle 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:48.520 rap brought a different eyes to it from all over 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.120 the world because it was hip hop and its purest form. 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:53.359 So we look at the cold Crush, we look at him. 0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:56.080 They started out meeting in the park, rapping against her, 0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.880 sometimes with no beat. You brought that back to a 0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:01.919 large scale. But in this hip hop fifty landscape, where 0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:05.799 they placing you in this where where they place some work, 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.319 where they placing you in this hip hop fifty, I. 0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:08.920 Don't even know. 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:11.719 I don't even know. I don't even know. 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.520 You know, I don't know where they placing me at. 0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.160 You ain't been in, no celebrations, nothing, you know, Nah, 0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:20.680 Like I don't, I don't know. 0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:24.120 And you know it's crazy because I feel like I 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.040 put a lot up, you know what I'm saying, blusod, 0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.520 sweat and tears into this culture. 0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:33.000 I contribute my contribution to this ship is different. I 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:36.319 created a whole genre. 0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:42.680 Industry, it's say industry inside the hip hop industry. You understand, 0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.440 I created my own industry where motherfuckers could you know, 0:41:46.680 --> 0:41:49.759 actually get paid to do something that they loved to 0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.920 do that they wasn't getting paid to do before. Motherfuckers 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:56.839 used to just battle for credibility. You understand what I'm saying, 0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:59.120 who had the ill bars or who had the illis 0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.680 lyrics and lyrics or lyricism, or who had like you 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.160 know what I mean, who killed who? Motherfuckers used to 0:42:05.200 --> 0:42:06.440 do that shit for credibility. 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.280 Now I created a whole lane where motherfuckers is getting 0:42:10.360 --> 0:42:10.920 paid to do. 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:15.120 A whole new fucking you know what I mean art 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.760 form that exists withinside the hip hop culture. 0:42:19.360 --> 0:42:22.239 You know, hip hop is based on competition. 0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.520 I want to play you the thing for him bringing 0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.319 him to the Gangst The Chronicles is important because when 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:36.120 we start talking about the Gangst the Rap Chronicles, one 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:38.520 of the you know, the offshoots of the name and 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:39.680 the concept of. 0:42:39.760 --> 0:42:40.400 The show. 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:42.080 They was. 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.920 They was able to stand on stage in each other 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.120 face and talk about how they're gonna kill each other 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:51.600 ways they gonna kill each other, but not have to 0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:57.759 kill each other face there. So, hey, let me ask 0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:00.400 you something, do you think and the hate of you 0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:03.560 and quick with y'all ship, do y'all think y'all would 0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:05.000 have been able to stand in front of each other 0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.359 and rap battle at one point? 0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.880 No, because we was gang bangers. It wasn't about rapping. 0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.480 It was about the neighborhood. It wasn't about rap music. 0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:16.440 Rapping was rapping, that's. 0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:16.920 All it was. 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:22.040 So it wasn't like I'm out here to try to 0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:25.160 battle rap a nigga and get some money and embarrass 0:43:25.200 --> 0:43:25.680 the nigga. 0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:26.560 Our ship. 0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:31.360 Our ship bled deep because of neighborhood times. That's what 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:36.160 it was about. So we couldn't we couldn't be battle 0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.799 rappers because niggas be getting killed because first of all, 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.280 you ain't finna put no crypt blood in the same 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:47.560 place because the result is finna be fighting first ship. 0:43:47.640 --> 0:43:49.279 Don't IM about to give a fuck about no rap 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:53.560 music music. Yeah, that's how it went. 0:43:54.040 --> 0:43:56.920 Now, you know that's a different I guess it's a 0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:01.400 different aspect if if that's what you on is just 0:44:01.520 --> 0:44:04.239 trying to be an MC. But a lot of us 0:44:04.400 --> 0:44:08.440 was from the neighborhood first. Even before a rap started, 0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.799 we was game banging, you feel me? So, uh, that's 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.799 the difference of That's why a lot of our our 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:21.960 talk was was on records, because when you met a nigga, it. 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:25.120 Wasn't it was fighting here. It was dunk them first. 0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:28.920 That's what it was. Yeah, And I don't think the 0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:30.480 thing that was interest in the boat. 0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:35.280 The situation with any niggas over here who had beef 0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:38.359 with each other, the niggas was chunking them when they 0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.000 see each other. It wasn't no nigga, let's go on 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:45.120 stage and grab the mic and talk about each other. Nah, nigga, 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.880 I'm trying to bust your motherfucking face open. 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:51.080 So that's what it was all. A lot of a 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:54.840 lot of of of art, of artists who came. 0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:58.759 From my era who dealt with gangs and all that 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:02.280 shit you could and been put in that settle. That segment. 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:05.319 Battle rapping is just that. That's for niggas who are 0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:08.680 on BMC's you know. You know, I don't give a 0:45:08.760 --> 0:45:11.360 fuck you from a block or whatever. You know, A 0:45:11.440 --> 0:45:15.040 lot of that shit progressed down the road because when 0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.320 I first started rapping, niggas had beef. 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:18.960 We wasn't thinking about. 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:19.360 You know. 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:23.160 That's why a lot of our our shit was spoken 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.120 on records, because that's where we was able to confront 0:45:26.160 --> 0:45:28.640 a nigga. Because you see a nigga in the streets, 0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.160 ain't no nigga, I'm finna drop this line on you 0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:37.320 and say, nigga, homie, he's talking about you smoking me, 0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:38.719 or you're finna kill me. 0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:42.800 Real pistols is coming out, real fist is flying and 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:43.360 getting me. 0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:46.680 So yeah, I'm just trying to picture some cheet cats 0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:48.759 man begging that they man standing in front of each 0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.359 other talking about each other, because you know, cats would 0:45:51.360 --> 0:45:53.719 have got real disrespectful with it. Somebody would have got 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.600 disrespectful and disrespected somebody's neighborhood and it would have been 0:45:57.640 --> 0:45:59.680 a melee before he can get a second bar out 0:45:59.760 --> 0:45:59.960 the top. 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.520 About that, dude's here's some more. It had been twenty 0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:03.680 thirty people on stage. 0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.480 The first battle I seen on camera from your side 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:11.480 was I think the Bay. It was severe versus casual. 0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:13.120 You remember that it was the first time I seen 0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.680 two people from the West Coast in battle and. 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:20.520 Battle. 0:46:20.880 --> 0:46:23.279 But as time went on, I'm like, now these thing 0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.400 it's too real to be. Ain't nobody gonna be standing 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:27.640 and spitting each other face? They gonna get crazy with it, 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:29.399 you know what I'm saying. So that when we see 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.400 where the battle rap culture is now. These are sometimes 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.440 dudes who might have little rivalries in the sense of 0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.920 they research on each other that they're gonna bring out 0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:40.840 in the battle, But it don't really be no past 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.000 street history. Sometimes it is a little bit what makes 0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:48.279 for a battle battle. So it's entertaining back in y'all 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:49.319 in your time. 0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:49.600 Eight. 0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.920 I know it wasn't possible for that shit to happen 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:56.480 because again, when you see a nigga fuck music, you 0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.239 know what I'm saying. Music was how you got off 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:02.080 on a nigga like I had, I had, we spent 0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.799 your block, you know what I'm saying. But it wasn't though, 0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.880 we're gonna spend your block, or we're gonna do this, 0:47:08.040 --> 0:47:10.320 we're gonna do that. Those is like this record, but 0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:12.920 more was like a response of the ship that actually 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:16.359 was taking place for real, for real. Now you can't 0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:18.120 do that because nigga go to jail now, you know 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.520 what I'm saying that, because you see the little dudes 0:47:20.520 --> 0:47:22.439 who do the drill and all that shit, they using 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:24.200 all that shit to lock they asks up now, you 0:47:24.239 --> 0:47:28.080 know what I'm saying. So if hip hop was then 0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.000 what it is now, they probably been looking at y'all 0:47:31.080 --> 0:47:33.040 crazy like, oh for real, you such and such, you 0:47:33.080 --> 0:47:36.439 know what I'm saying. But the eyes wasn't on y'all 0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:41.120 when you when you made this record though, eight what 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:43.560 was what was your and what was your intention? Just 0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:47.319 the ship on them, that hood, that that people as 0:47:47.400 --> 0:47:49.520 much as you can or like, what what was. 0:47:49.560 --> 0:47:54.359 Your I never disrespected anybody's neighborhood, even though I might 0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:58.640 add beef with niggas. I never brought neighborhoods into it 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:06.239 because me being from a neighborhood, it's bigger than that shit. Man, 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:11.239 So you know niggas do that shit nowadays. But if 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.600 I beef with the nigga, I kept it to the nigga. 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:14.560 You guys me. 0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:20.799 I tried to keep it on that level as far 0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.880 as hip hop was concerned, because at the end of 0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:27.719 the day, I still was a hip hop artist, you 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:32.799 feel me. So I didn't want to necessarily go too 0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.800 deep on that aspect when it came to dissing the 0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:41.040 nigga if I had beef with him, because I really 0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:45.360 didn't beef with niggas. Everybody know whatever the aspect was, 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:49.000 But basically the intention when you was writing a record 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:54.360 or ditch record, it was basically just your feelings. 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.440 Of how you felt about a motherfucker. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.719 You give me the nigga you and I guess that 0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:03.680 no different if niggas wanted to express themselves if they could. 0:49:04.280 --> 0:49:08.080 You know, uh, you know, you got other football players. 0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.279 They get in practices, they fuck that nigga or we're 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:14.040 gonna but they don't necessarily do it that deep. But 0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.360 you know they might be like, oh yeah number twelve 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.520 till number twelve were coming for him this weekend, or 0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:23.239 or or tell motherfucker you know. 0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.759 So basically writing a disk record. 0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:32.360 And it necessarily wasn't too I think like in what 0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:37.040 y'all called the Battle Rap thame, niggas go deep to 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:43.000 expose a motherfucker. You feel me, With writing a disc record, 0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:46.520 I'm just saying, fuck a nigga. You know, don't necessarily 0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:54.240 I don't necessarily know your mama or your financial status 0:49:54.480 --> 0:49:57.680 or where you nigga. All I know is like, nigga, 0:49:57.880 --> 0:49:58.600 I don't like you. 0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:02.279 So it's neop you didn't come, try to come with 0:50:02.400 --> 0:50:06.799 no extra fly metaphors and that ship because really. 0:50:07.120 --> 0:50:10.560 And then it really wasn't like I want. 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:16.080 I wouldn't say, uh, necessarily like battling niggas, we just 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.080 busting rhymes, you know, I would call it more of 0:50:19.200 --> 0:50:24.959 a cipher we had then, like a nigga, you ain't 0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:27.640 this or Nigga, you ain't that. We never did that. 0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:31.879 It was more like I'm missing I'm that, and I'm 0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:34.600 missing I'm that. And then he was more like, well, 0:50:34.640 --> 0:50:37.120 I'm from here, and I'm from here and I'm missing 0:50:37.239 --> 0:50:40.880 I'm that. So it's basically like a cipher we had. So, 0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:45.000 like I said, it's different from you know, battle rapping 0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:48.440 and writing a disc record. Some niggas do. Some niggas 0:50:48.560 --> 0:50:52.879 like nowadays, they go technical, Oh, nigga, I'm gonna search 0:50:52.920 --> 0:50:59.279 a niggas history. I'm gonna see what who the fuck with? 0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.000 I'm see if the nigga got all f's on his 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:05.479 report card and school, you know, all kind of shit 0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:10.120 niggas come out with. But me, basically I was just 0:51:10.320 --> 0:51:12.520 like Nigga, this Compton and Nigga fucked you. 0:51:13.320 --> 0:51:14.320 That's it, you know. 0:51:15.040 --> 0:51:18.759 I mean a battle rapper, I think battle rapping it's 0:51:18.920 --> 0:51:23.680 more to expose the individual and his skills and who 0:51:23.760 --> 0:51:27.760 the fuck he think he is as a motherfucking battle rapper. 0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.040 So Nigga, just like the Homie said when when he 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.520 was on the show what's his name that we had, 0:51:35.880 --> 0:51:40.160 he said, nigga. Oh, And then the benefit of it 0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:43.440 is from what y'all tell me. I'm gonna tell you 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.719 you're fin the battle this nigga next week. Right, But 0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:50.040 now I get to go do my homework on motherfucking 0:51:50.440 --> 0:51:52.560 I get to go dig into it. Like I said, 0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:56.640 you had motherfucking buck teeth in the third grade and 0:51:56.719 --> 0:52:00.839 shit like that. Nigga, your mama wore motherfucker get hand 0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:03.959 me downs and y'all drove a pinto wagon the church 0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.959 on Sundays and ship like you get to dig into 0:52:07.040 --> 0:52:11.160 a nigga's all kinds of shit. So, like I said, 0:52:11.440 --> 0:52:14.719 sometimes with niggas making records and ship it's just like, man, 0:52:15.360 --> 0:52:15.719 fuck you. 0:52:16.200 --> 0:52:18.719 Hey, it don't got deeper. Hey, it don't got so 0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.480 deep in battles, dude. Us the big screen in the back, 0:52:22.800 --> 0:52:25.360 dudes had on T shirts with a nigga mother baby 0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:28.280 mother getting fucked on it. That's the research they was able. 0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:32.319 To do it. That's a lot deep. 0:52:32.680 --> 0:52:34.800 But then I guess you have to. 0:52:36.640 --> 0:52:40.200 I guess you got to present that showmanship because you 0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:42.759 on stage. It's a show. Right. 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:46.279 It's no different than when I get on stage and 0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.799 I got props. I might bring a lowrider bike out 0:52:49.920 --> 0:52:53.640 or play play my scenes from minutes to society in 0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:58.160 the background or whatever. So I guess as a battle rapper, Yeah, 0:52:58.520 --> 0:52:59.840 you want to have your props. 0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:01.000 You want to have your. 0:53:00.920 --> 0:53:04.759 Motherfucking stage presence. So y'all want the big screen. I 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:06.839 want to put a picture up of this nigga when 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:09.359 he got socked in the mouth. I want to put 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.080 up a big screen to the nigga when his baby 0:53:12.160 --> 0:53:14.480 mama was cheating on him, and shit she was at 0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.960 the movies with another nigga or some shit, all kinds 0:53:17.960 --> 0:53:18.279 of shit. 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.320 So yeah, that's what you call chowmanship. 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:25.600 Though, in that motherfucking realm of hip hop, you gotta 0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.759 ask chowmanship, especially if you want to be that top dog. 0:53:29.120 --> 0:53:30.680 And like you said, with all the props and the 0:53:30.800 --> 0:53:35.440 technology and all the research you can do that that 0:53:35.520 --> 0:53:39.680 could be critical for some niggas. He can basically destroy 0:53:39.840 --> 0:53:43.160 some niggas battle career. Yeah, I think we love Smack. 0:53:43.160 --> 0:53:45.080 I would love to have him here to answer this one. 0:53:45.680 --> 0:53:48.359 I saw, you know, the homely man from the baby Man, 0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:53.439 mister fab right, he dealves off into that battling world. 0:53:53.480 --> 0:53:56.960 He's actually really dope, Yes, but I saw I forget 0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:00.400 the call. He was battling man for Arsenal he was 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:03.880 failing Arsenal. Arsenal got to talking about busting nuts in. 0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:08.320 His daughter's face, disrespectful, doing this and that, talking about 0:54:08.360 --> 0:54:08.839 his daughter. 0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:12.040 Fuck your sick daughter or slaughter our duct taper and 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:13.640 throw that little sick something. 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:15.680 And I was just like, oh my god, this dude, 0:54:16.120 --> 0:54:16.760 he the girl. 0:54:17.719 --> 0:54:20.760 You set yourself up for that, right and battle rapping, 0:54:21.440 --> 0:54:25.160 you said, That's why I said, it would have been 0:54:25.440 --> 0:54:30.120 very difficult to from you know, from the days of 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:35.479 niggas dissing each other and neighborhoods being involved. That would 0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:42.479 have been a hard scene to control because the minute 0:54:42.520 --> 0:54:45.160 the niggas say, nigga, your hood, ain't this a nigga? 0:54:45.239 --> 0:54:47.880 Y'all some this, and then nigga, that's why we killed 0:54:47.960 --> 0:54:50.480 so and so, and nigga's over. 0:54:50.880 --> 0:54:53.680 That's what driller is doing now, little drill cats over 0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:57.640 there in Chicago. Yeah, I mean that's New York too. 0:54:57.840 --> 0:55:00.759 Yeah, that's state way of you know, they call you out, 0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.560 say who got killed, nigga, We peeled sos and so, 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:07.280 cap this package and then at the bus stopped screaming 0:55:07.520 --> 0:55:10.120 like a bitch and wootie. Yeah they do all that 0:55:10.239 --> 0:55:14.600 ship now. So that's why you have so much controversy 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:18.480 and conflict. You give me as opposed to niggas who 0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:21.279 was battle rappers in my day, You give me you 0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.080 had an Ll cool J and coolmodgo at it and 0:55:24.160 --> 0:55:27.200 it was just you know, battle on wax. You know, 0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:31.520 Cube had his you know, Cube had his dealings with 0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:34.680 easy in them and and a lynch mob with above 0:55:34.760 --> 0:55:36.680 the Law and all them type of niggas. 0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:37.520 I had my. 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:41.279 Battles with quick and and you know. But sometimes it 0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:44.920 was to the necessarity of well, we kept it on records, 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:50.440 didn't You didn't You never saw uh LLL or cool 0:55:50.520 --> 0:55:52.680 Man with d tell my, let's get in the boxing 0:55:52.800 --> 0:55:55.680 ring and you know, scrap or let's bus guns at 0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:58.160 each other or something. We tried to keep it on 0:55:58.239 --> 0:56:04.320 the elements of hip hop at me, you know, you know, 0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:07.360 what was fresh and young, and we didn't want to 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.640 jeopardize it to the fact because you know, back then 0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.520 they was banning niggas left and right and pulling niggas 0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:15.439 in doing all of that. So we tried to keep 0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:18.720 it to a level of not getting out of hand. 0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:22.640 But like you said, nowadays, man, it's just like I 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:26.000 don't I couldn't be a I couldn't be in them 0:56:26.160 --> 0:56:31.240 shoes of a nigga standing in my face like you said, saying, nigga, 0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:35.719 your son is this or your your mama ain't ship Like, 0:56:36.120 --> 0:56:39.080 I'm not gonna like this. Up fab is the homie nigga. 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:41.160 They must fight work all the probably fired on you. 0:56:41.280 --> 0:56:44.120 It was all I was getting mad and I was thinking, man, 0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:44.480 oh my. 0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:46.960 Is that first contracts not to fight them? 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:47.759 Yeah. 0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:50.080 At first it was a little bit funny because you know, 0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.279 he was being light. But then when he started doing 0:56:52.400 --> 0:56:54.440 certain stuff and it was. 0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.040 Kind of like, man, so basically you have to you 0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.799 have to sign the contract saying that you're gonna take 0:56:59.840 --> 0:57:00.799 the humiliation. 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:05.160 You gotta keep I would assume, man, and I would 0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:08.000 assume that to keep your cane. That's a hard pill 0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:13.000 to swallow. Stuff. Sign a contract. 0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:14.239 It's a rapper name good. 0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:19.040 You have hands on and you have to allow this 0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:23.400 motherfucker to say whatever they want to say. Now, look, 0:57:26.200 --> 0:57:29.800 basically put your basically put yourself out there for it. 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:33.680 You know it's you better be hard as a motherfucker 0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:34.080 all out. 0:57:34.240 --> 0:57:34.920 That's all I know. 0:57:35.080 --> 0:57:38.800 If you want to get into that motherfucking realm of 0:57:39.320 --> 0:57:42.360 hip hop, if you know whatever music, whatever you want 0:57:42.400 --> 0:57:42.760 to call it. 0:57:43.320 --> 0:57:46.640 Uh, you better have some tough skin. Yeah, really you know. 0:57:47.160 --> 0:57:50.480 Still, it's a rapper name Goods who put in every contract. 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:53.400 I don't give a fuck what you say about me. 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:56.560 Don't say nothing about my daughter. But he put it 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:59.080 in writing that the artist wasn't allowed to speak about 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:01.200 his daughter. He said. The only reason why I'm saying 0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:03.960 that because when she get older, I don't want her 0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:06.800 to ever see her. Daddy stood there and had the 0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:10.680 nigga say your little baby daughter, suck my dick. He said, nah, 0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:12.840 we you can say whatever you want about me, fuck me, 0:58:12.960 --> 0:58:15.760 fuck everybody, but don't say nothing about my daughter. The 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:19.040 one person that says something about his daughter he misinterpret. 0:58:19.400 --> 0:58:20.919 He smacked the shit out of him in the middle 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.240 of the battle. This is a fact, so so you could, 0:58:24.640 --> 0:58:27.560 you could get some shit taken out. But it's Arsenal. 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:31.440 You got QB, you got Bridge Rostein. It's certain rappers. 0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:35.600 They're clean. The thing, they are so disrespectful that you 0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:39.720 got an autistic child. If you got anything going on, 0:58:40.360 --> 0:58:42.320 they're gonna get there. Still, I gotta get up out 0:58:42.320 --> 0:58:47.360 of here, smack man. Uh yeah, we got like five Yeah, 0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:49.280 go into the go into the events. 0:58:49.560 --> 0:58:51.040 I got it, don't I got it? Right? 0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:52.080 Lad On, y'all all right. 0:58:52.240 --> 0:58:56.840 Smack you you missed it, Doug. We was talking about 0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:02.680 some of them, real disrespectful battle rappers. Let me see, 0:59:02.760 --> 0:59:08.360 is he back? But he got froze out again. Look 0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:10.520 like we got froze out again. We got some we 0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:13.080 got smacked back in the building, but he froze. He 0:59:13.120 --> 0:59:15.960 got some technical difficulties going on. Were gonna talk a 0:59:16.000 --> 0:59:18.800 little bit, Man about this lineup Man that Summer Madness. 0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:21.720 Man is going down. It is going down. 0:59:21.840 --> 0:59:25.480 Sunday, August twenty seventh, Man the Ultimate Rap League was 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:28.600 touched down in Houston, Texas the whole Summer Madness thirteen, 0:59:29.120 --> 0:59:31.200 the pinnacle of being in the world of battle rap, 0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:35.200 featuring a full evening of electrifying showdowns from the most 0:59:35.240 --> 0:59:38.840 respected names from around the coach. You know they got 0:59:38.920 --> 0:59:42.000 some cats. I know you, ag, you ain't really familiar 0:59:42.000 --> 0:59:45.120 with the battle rap, saying you you you heavy into it? 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:48.760 I see him. I love battle rap. On I've never 0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:51.080 been into it, so I've never been into it. 0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:53.240 Yeah you, but I'm gona have to take you to 0:59:53.320 --> 0:59:58.880 some events. Look, well, we was talking about smacking you 0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:02.680 you good now? He got technically he got you got 1:00:02.760 --> 1:00:06.280 technical difficulties going on. They got a good line up, man, 1:00:06.360 --> 1:00:10.600 They got Tay Rock versus ad t Top versus John 1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:15.440 John to Don DNA versus Jerry West, Fine Fines versus 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:16.840 Shotgun Sugar. 1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:20.040 And New Jersey Twerk versus howld have done? These cats 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:21.600 got some color names. 1:00:21.680 --> 1:00:21.840 Man. 1:00:22.680 --> 1:00:26.800 Yeah, I have no disrespect, but I've never gotten into 1:00:26.920 --> 1:00:31.160 the you know, I've I've heard, I've seen a couple 1:00:31.760 --> 1:00:35.560 as far as the Internet is concerned, when they come across, 1:00:35.720 --> 1:00:38.520 But I never got into the battle rap thing. 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:41.680 Yeah, well you know what it is, man, It's like 1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:48.520 it's definitely acquired taste. It's definitely one of those acquired tastes. 1:00:48.600 --> 1:00:52.120 Man, for you to be heavy into it, what is 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:57.640 the What is what I want to say is. 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:05.040 What is that angle of performing hip hop or whatever? 1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:09.480 Like is the intention to ever make a record or 1:01:09.560 --> 1:01:12.320 is it just to be a disrespectful battle rapper? 1:01:12.680 --> 1:01:14.960 I think you know what I think because of what 1:01:15.200 --> 1:01:18.160 Smack is done with the culture now with Survive, But lifting, 1:01:18.600 --> 1:01:20.640 to me, it's just another branch of the hip hop tree. 1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:23.200 You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know, we got 1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:26.480 gangster rap. Now you got trio. You even got the 1:01:26.560 --> 1:01:29.400 country western you know, the country dudes doing the rap now, 1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:30.960 you know what I mean over country music. 1:01:31.320 --> 1:01:32.480 I look at it just like that. 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:35.160 Look at it more as a competitive sport now, like 1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:37.880 just like how gaming it is now. And it's one 1:01:37.880 --> 1:01:40.960 of them things. Man. I definitely like, man, the older 1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:43.080 stuff a little bit better because it was a little 1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:46.080 less disrespectful. You know, they got in people's ass, but 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:48.080 there was certain lines you didn't cross. Like if you 1:01:48.160 --> 1:01:50.880 heard about a dude's mama just passed away, you was 1:01:50.920 --> 1:01:52.479 gonna leave that alone. You feel what I'm saying. 1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:53.800 It wasn't this. 1:01:54.000 --> 1:01:56.320 You know, you had some dudes that got disrespectful though, 1:01:56.760 --> 1:01:58.520 but they kept it to a limit when you agree, 1:01:58.560 --> 1:02:01.360 be they kept it to limit. Now, like with that 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:03.919 cat man, like with the arsenal cat and stuff, Man, 1:02:04.640 --> 1:02:05.880 I would probably whoop his ass. 1:02:06.960 --> 1:02:09.760 Yeah, like I said, I would never you know, So 1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:14.400 it's an acquired taste for sure. 1:02:14.480 --> 1:02:18.320 Smack you good now your yacky heavy Yeah for sure, 1:02:18.360 --> 1:02:20.840 we can hear you man before we get to that. 1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:23.720 Yeah, pardon for the technical difficulties. 1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:26.480 Man, It's all good. It happened, man, But but that's 1:02:26.520 --> 1:02:27.920 what we do. We go get through it. You know 1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:29.080 what I'm saying, We get through. 1:02:30.680 --> 1:02:33.520 You know, I that modems and all type of ship. 1:02:33.640 --> 1:02:34.920 This make sure I come back to this. 1:02:35.000 --> 1:02:38.800 Interview, man, sure, Man, And I appreciate it, Bro, And 1:02:38.840 --> 1:02:40.640 I appreciate it because you know, it ain't every day man, 1:02:40.680 --> 1:02:41.480 people get to talk to you. 1:02:41.600 --> 1:02:42.880 So I really appreciate it. Man. 1:02:44.640 --> 1:02:46.720 One of the things we talked about, man with some 1:02:46.880 --> 1:02:50.360 of the disrespect because see, I'm a battle Rat fan eight. 1:02:51.560 --> 1:02:52.400 I ain't gonna say, you. 1:02:52.440 --> 1:02:54.440 Know, he's not too familiar with the sport, you know 1:02:54.480 --> 1:02:56.160 what I mean, He's not too familiar with it, right, 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:58.240 So I could be kind of like, you know, letting 1:02:58.280 --> 1:02:59.440 him know what's going on with it. 1:02:59.520 --> 1:03:01.200 One of the things we talked about was back in 1:03:01.240 --> 1:03:02.960 the day, wasn't it disrespectful? 1:03:03.320 --> 1:03:05.320 People would get in your ass, But they kind of 1:03:05.520 --> 1:03:08.160 left some stuff to you know, they just left some 1:03:08.200 --> 1:03:10.400 stuff to the imagination. They had a class about it, 1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:13.120 you know what I mean. Now you got cancers, don't 1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:14.640 give a fuck what they say to somebody. 1:03:14.760 --> 1:03:14.880 Man. 1:03:15.080 --> 1:03:16.960 I looked at that what was his name, Briant Arsenal. 1:03:18.200 --> 1:03:21.400 I looked at Arsenal battle somebody's daughter. He was talking 1:03:21.440 --> 1:03:23.960 about the dudes daughter or whatever like that. I said, Man, 1:03:24.000 --> 1:03:25.320 how to probably knocked this dude out. 1:03:26.080 --> 1:03:28.760 Yeah, man, you know, you gotta have a tough skin 1:03:28.840 --> 1:03:30.320 to be in this culture. You know what I'm saying, 1:03:30.400 --> 1:03:32.960 there's no rules. You know, you got some dudes that 1:03:33.200 --> 1:03:36.560 respect certain ethnics in certain codes. Then you got some 1:03:36.760 --> 1:03:39.160 dudes that just don't give a fucking just gonna just 1:03:39.360 --> 1:03:41.720 do that. Like you know what I'm saying, Arsenal, Arsenals, 1:03:42.520 --> 1:03:46.760 he's known, his name is missed, disrespectful, he gonna disrespect 1:03:47.400 --> 1:03:50.840 Andy and everything going. I've done seen people speak about 1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:52.520 the dead, you know what I'm saying. 1:03:52.640 --> 1:03:53.840 I've seen people talk. 1:03:53.760 --> 1:03:56.600 About you know what I'm saying baby moms and all 1:03:56.720 --> 1:03:58.320 types of shit, Like you know what I'm saying. 1:03:58.760 --> 1:04:00.640 That's why, like, you gotta have a tough skin to 1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:01.440 be in this culture. 1:04:01.800 --> 1:04:04.120 And you know what I'm saying, your your your your 1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:08.480 resume or your rapport, your your your your your your 1:04:08.560 --> 1:04:09.800 your life gotta be you know what I. 1:04:09.840 --> 1:04:10.880 Mean, squeaky clean. 1:04:11.440 --> 1:04:14.040 Because if anything, you got any dirt on your name 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:18.320 or any dirt that's associated with you, motherfucker's is gonna 1:04:18.360 --> 1:04:20.400 find that ship and try to expose it. I mean, 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:22.600 that's a part of the culture. You know what I mean, 1:04:22.640 --> 1:04:24.360 that's part of the coach, that's part of this ship. 1:04:24.400 --> 1:04:25.000 You know what I'm saying. 1:04:25.160 --> 1:04:27.439 Well, it's just coming out for sure. 1:04:27.560 --> 1:04:27.720 Man. 1:04:28.240 --> 1:04:31.800 So let's talk about man. Let's talk about summer. 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:31.960 Man. 1:04:32.040 --> 1:04:35.840 That's thirteen. Man, you gotta wind up on the man. 1:04:36.560 --> 1:04:38.480 Who you looking at? Who you're looking to see the moves? 1:04:38.480 --> 1:04:39.840 Who are you looking forward to see over there? 1:04:40.840 --> 1:04:45.240 Every everybody, every battle I put everything together. I want 1:04:45.280 --> 1:04:46.880 to to I put this card. I want to see 1:04:46.920 --> 1:04:48.080 every battle on his card. 1:04:48.200 --> 1:04:54.680 Man. So you personally, you said, what So you personally 1:04:54.760 --> 1:04:55.720 put this card together? 1:04:57.080 --> 1:04:57.280 Yeah? 1:04:57.400 --> 1:04:59.880 Yeah, with the assistance of my team and ship like that. 1:05:00.160 --> 1:05:02.200 But like you know, I co signed and check off 1:05:02.280 --> 1:05:05.920 on everything. You understand what I'm saying. So, like you 1:05:06.000 --> 1:05:07.880 know what I mean, this car right here. 1:05:07.840 --> 1:05:10.560 I want to see the outcome of every battle because 1:05:10.560 --> 1:05:13.640 I feel like everything, every battle on this car is competitive. 1:05:14.800 --> 1:05:19.320 You know. Sure, one of the names on there, it's 1:05:19.400 --> 1:05:21.680 because a lot of legends on there, man, But one 1:05:21.800 --> 1:05:23.280 name in particular, Man. 1:05:23.200 --> 1:05:25.360 How would have done? How long has How would have Done? 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:30.760 Been around? Man forever? You know what I mean? 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:32.880 He was He's one of the like you know what 1:05:32.880 --> 1:05:35.320 I mean, He was another on Smack DVD. It's certain 1:05:35.400 --> 1:05:37.240 classes of the ship though, you know what I'm saying. 1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:40.919 You got the Godfathers of the Grandfathers of the coaching. 1:05:40.600 --> 1:05:42.000 Which was you know what I'm saying. 1:05:42.360 --> 1:05:45.600 You know, the Murder Moves of course, the Loaded Lucks, 1:05:45.840 --> 1:05:51.120 J Mills, the party Artis, the t Rex's, the the 1:05:51.440 --> 1:05:56.360 mid Midwest Miles, you got X factor, you got like 1:05:56.560 --> 1:05:59.640 these dudes was on Smack DVD map Hot for Eye 1:05:59.680 --> 1:06:02.600 inside Coloman. You know what I'm saying, These are the 1:06:02.720 --> 1:06:04.919 dudes that's in the coaching that was on the Smack EVD. 1:06:05.120 --> 1:06:06.480 So they considered like the. 1:06:07.040 --> 1:06:11.600 The Godfathers or the grand the Granddaddy's other ship. 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:14.000 And then you got the U R L class you 1:06:14.080 --> 1:06:16.400 know what i mean, which you know, consists of like 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:18.960 you know what I'm saying, the Hollow, the Dons, the 1:06:19.080 --> 1:06:25.560 Tate Rocks, the you know, you know everybody else, Calicos, 1:06:25.960 --> 1:06:31.000 the you know then you know J Mills, I mean 1:06:31.080 --> 1:06:32.400 not J Mills, but like you know, I mean the 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:37.680 Geechee Gottis, the Rumnittis, the New Jersey Torch, the you 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:40.080 know what I'm saying, those are like the newer generations 1:06:40.200 --> 1:06:42.080 of like you know what I'm saying, it's coaching. 1:06:42.560 --> 1:06:45.280 So you know you mentioned the main man that's a 1:06:45.320 --> 1:06:47.000 friend of our show man that's extent. 1:06:47.360 --> 1:06:50.840 His cousin's over here with me right now. Man gott 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:54.200 you man, that kid really came in and made the impact. 1:06:54.320 --> 1:07:02.000 Man Nutty blocked, Nutty Gang, I heard you over. Yeah, 1:07:02.320 --> 1:07:03.080 I was in a hood. 1:07:03.160 --> 1:07:03.840 You know what I'm saying. 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:05.400 You know, I had to come tap in and see 1:07:05.440 --> 1:07:07.600 what the fuck was going on. You know what I mean. 1:07:07.680 --> 1:07:09.360 I had to see if someone was certified. 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:10.800 He showed me he was certified. 1:07:11.120 --> 1:07:13.360 The whole hook came out, you know what I'm saying, 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:16.240 and it just you know, gave me that hospitality, like 1:07:16.240 --> 1:07:17.720 you know what I'm saying, made me feel I'm good 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:20.080 over there anytime I pull up. You know what I'm saying, 1:07:20.720 --> 1:07:22.320 And you know what I mean, it's vice versa on 1:07:22.400 --> 1:07:22.800 my side. 1:07:22.840 --> 1:07:24.160 Way, you know what I'm saying. He come, You know 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:26.240 what I'm saying. In New York, but like you know 1:07:26.240 --> 1:07:27.720 what I'm saying, Nah, I saw love. 1:07:27.800 --> 1:07:31.280 You know what I'm saying. You know, geeky, you know 1:07:31.320 --> 1:07:31.760 what I'm saying. 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:33.600 One of the best you know what I'm saying in 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:37.920 the culture right now, hands down, hands down, I speaking 1:07:38.000 --> 1:07:38.400 that real. 1:07:38.480 --> 1:07:41.080 You know what I'm saying, hood shit that you know, real. 1:07:41.040 --> 1:07:42.400 Street dudes appreciate. 1:07:42.960 --> 1:07:45.360 So you know what I'm saying, He's definitely, you know 1:07:45.400 --> 1:07:48.040 what I'm saying, one of my favorites right now. You 1:07:48.120 --> 1:07:49.560 know what I mean, I got a lot, I got 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:52.760 a great deal of respect, and I'll rock with him 1:07:52.800 --> 1:07:53.600 and shit, you know what I mean. 1:07:53.880 --> 1:07:57.880 Well, you truly a hustler man, And this is gonna 1:07:57.880 --> 1:08:01.000 be on the Caffeine APIs everybody we would have a link. 1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:02.320 We gonna make sure to put a link in the 1:08:02.360 --> 1:08:04.640 description man, so they can go to caffeine Man to 1:08:04.760 --> 1:08:05.240 sign up. 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:07.120 Man. How did you get plugged up? Man? 1:08:07.120 --> 1:08:08.520 Because I heard a lot of it. Man, You just 1:08:08.600 --> 1:08:10.960 like the world's greatest ustler man. Looked up Man, you 1:08:11.080 --> 1:08:13.040 signed the big deals man with Caffeine. 1:08:13.080 --> 1:08:16.120 That's what I said. Man, he out there getting some paper. 1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:18.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to us. 1:08:18.920 --> 1:08:19.320 You know what I mean. 1:08:19.479 --> 1:08:23.120 Champagne shopping, champagne poppy. You know what I'm saying, Drake, 1:08:23.720 --> 1:08:26.400 You know you know what I mean. He's the liaison 1:08:26.520 --> 1:08:28.960 between the connection between me and caffeine. 1:08:29.000 --> 1:08:29.559 You know what I mean. 1:08:30.120 --> 1:08:32.840 You know, I got a good relationship with you know 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:35.320 what I'm saying the whole over Yon Drake himself, and 1:08:35.560 --> 1:08:35.960 you know what I mean. 1:08:36.040 --> 1:08:37.640 We always used to trap it up. And you know 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:37.960 what I mean. 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:40.360 He's like such a big you know what I'm saying, 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:43.439 battle rap fan and a fan of Smack first and foremost, 1:08:43.560 --> 1:08:45.599 and a fan of the U r L TV movement, 1:08:46.120 --> 1:08:48.639 and you know what I mean, It's just like every 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:50.880 time we used to see each other, He's like your snack, Yo. 1:08:51.000 --> 1:08:53.559 I promise you, yo, We're gonna do something. Man, We're 1:08:53.600 --> 1:08:54.200 gonna do something. 1:08:54.200 --> 1:08:56.360 I'm gonna put a player for us together so we 1:08:56.400 --> 1:08:58.960 can get some money together. I just wanted, basically, you 1:08:59.000 --> 1:09:01.800 know what I'm saying, you know, show my love and 1:09:01.960 --> 1:09:05.439 appreciation of your contributions, of what you brought to this culture, 1:09:05.520 --> 1:09:07.400 and I just want to just get some money with you. 1:09:07.920 --> 1:09:10.280 I'm gonna put a play together for you, and you 1:09:10.320 --> 1:09:12.280 know what I'm saying, We're gonna, We're gonna make something happen. 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:14.560 I got you, you know what I'm saying. And you know, 1:09:15.800 --> 1:09:18.599 you know he we always used to say that shit. 1:09:18.640 --> 1:09:20.160 He always used to say that shit. You know what 1:09:20.160 --> 1:09:20.360 I mean. 1:09:20.360 --> 1:09:22.720 He popped up to one of my events like, Yo, 1:09:22.800 --> 1:09:24.400 I have to come here and smack you. I'm telling 1:09:24.439 --> 1:09:26.840 you we're gonna do saying, and then he really called 1:09:26.880 --> 1:09:27.880 me like yo, smack yo. 1:09:28.000 --> 1:09:29.519 I got it, Yo. This is what we're doing. 1:09:29.640 --> 1:09:31.640 This, this, this, that and the third you know what 1:09:31.680 --> 1:09:34.680 I'm saying. You know, so he put that, you know 1:09:34.720 --> 1:09:36.840 what I'm saying, plug together and you know what I'm saying. 1:09:36.920 --> 1:09:39.120 He threw me a layup and I ain't never looked back. 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:39.840 You know what I'm saying. 1:09:39.880 --> 1:09:42.080 I just took the ball and ran with it. You 1:09:42.120 --> 1:09:42.840 feel what I'm saying. 1:09:43.200 --> 1:09:44.519 And you know what I'm saying. 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:47.880 Yeah, so you know what I mean. 1:09:48.560 --> 1:09:51.519 That's how we linked with caffeine and shit, you know 1:09:51.560 --> 1:09:54.240 what I mean. We did the caffeine thing. You know 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:57.240 what I mean, shot the caffeine. You know, I just 1:09:57.360 --> 1:10:00.200 gave the world the opportunity, like you know what I'm saying, saying, 1:10:00.439 --> 1:10:03.800 to have access. That was our vision, Like you know 1:10:03.840 --> 1:10:06.000 what I'm saying. Because he used to like Drake is 1:10:06.080 --> 1:10:06.599 such a fan. 1:10:07.200 --> 1:10:09.200 He used to be on the phone for like, you 1:10:09.240 --> 1:10:10.720 know what I'm saying. I was just going back and 1:10:10.840 --> 1:10:12.519 forth and shit. He's like, Yo, I've seen that event. 1:10:12.880 --> 1:10:15.000 I like this, but this kind of like it took 1:10:15.080 --> 1:10:17.959 me so long to log in and I had troubles, 1:10:18.479 --> 1:10:22.120 like you know what i mean, logging and I can't 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:22.840 see this shit for. 1:10:22.920 --> 1:10:24.960 Like a certain amount of time, and then it came on. 1:10:25.479 --> 1:10:25.880 It's good. 1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:26.760 We got to fix all that. 1:10:26.960 --> 1:10:28.880 So he just felt like, you know what I'm saying, 1:10:28.920 --> 1:10:30.799 He wanted to give you know what I mean, a culture, 1:10:30.880 --> 1:10:32.479 like you know what I'm saying, a better experience when 1:10:32.479 --> 1:10:34.800 it came to having access to the content, you know 1:10:34.840 --> 1:10:37.080 what I'm saying. So that was his angle with his 1:10:37.400 --> 1:10:39.759 just like damn, how can I make this shit bigger? 1:10:39.840 --> 1:10:41.400 And you know what i mean, We're just like, yo, 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:42.920 damn yo. You know it would be dope. 1:10:43.040 --> 1:10:44.400 Fuck the pay per view, Like you know what I'm 1:10:44.400 --> 1:10:46.840 saying that the world actually see this shit for free, 1:10:46.920 --> 1:10:49.000 but you still get your bread, you know what I'm say. 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:50.680 I'm saying, let's try to do something like that. 1:10:50.840 --> 1:10:53.120 So he created an opportunity for us to link up 1:10:53.160 --> 1:10:56.160 with you know what I mean, a streaming company as Caffeine. 1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:59.400 They was just getting off the ground. They needed the content, 1:10:59.520 --> 1:11:01.360 they needed the you know what I'm saying to use 1:11:01.400 --> 1:11:02.240 a you know what I mean. 1:11:02.200 --> 1:11:03.160 Base and shit like that. 1:11:03.640 --> 1:11:06.040 So we had everybody signed up to Caffeine to have 1:11:06.280 --> 1:11:08.599 access to the content, and you know what I'm saying, 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:10.600 it was a perfect marriage and shit for you know 1:11:10.600 --> 1:11:12.680 what I'm saying the time and shit like you know 1:11:12.720 --> 1:11:13.040 what I mean. 1:11:13.160 --> 1:11:14.080 So, you know what I mean. 1:11:15.920 --> 1:11:19.559 It's very dope, man, And I'm a fan of that movement. Man. 1:11:19.600 --> 1:11:21.960 I'm actually got some plays on working man, because I 1:11:22.080 --> 1:11:24.000 do believe that you can make a lot of money 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.240 off of content, man, but get it to the people 1:11:26.280 --> 1:11:31.000 for free. Yeah, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. And 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:33.400 that's one of the good things that technology has brought 1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:34.240 to the table. 1:11:34.040 --> 1:11:34.200 You know. 1:11:35.200 --> 1:11:35.400 Yeah. 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:37.720 And we did it in the middle of the pandemic 1:11:37.800 --> 1:11:41.040 when everybody was stuck in the motherfucking house, you understand. 1:11:41.160 --> 1:11:43.479 So it was like, you know what I mean, it 1:11:43.640 --> 1:11:46.400 just made perfect sense, you know what I mean. It's like, Yo, 1:11:47.000 --> 1:11:48.720 we're gonna just do this shit real quick, you know 1:11:48.760 --> 1:11:51.440 what I mean. Everybody's tuned in, everybody's trapped. 1:11:51.200 --> 1:11:53.160 In the house, like you know what I Man, let's 1:11:53.280 --> 1:11:54.120 put on that ship. 1:11:54.240 --> 1:11:56.280 You're now. One of the questions I had, man, because 1:11:56.280 --> 1:11:57.760 I heard you wasn't hosting it this year. 1:11:59.400 --> 1:12:01.320 Nah, I'm hosting, you know what I mean. 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:03.479 I was just like, you know, I put out a 1:12:03.600 --> 1:12:06.840 thread the other day just like like yo, you know 1:12:06.880 --> 1:12:10.439 what I mean, Like, yo, man, you know I'm fifteen years. 1:12:10.280 --> 1:12:10.880 Into this shit. 1:12:10.960 --> 1:12:13.439 Man, this is something man that's thirteen man, Like you 1:12:13.479 --> 1:12:13.840 know what I mean. 1:12:14.040 --> 1:12:16.200 I'm like, I'm like fifteen years into this shit. So 1:12:16.280 --> 1:12:19.400 I'm just like yo, man, Yo, this card is so crazy, 1:12:19.920 --> 1:12:21.520 you know what I mean, and so competitive. 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:26.240 I just want to enjoy it. As from a fan's perspective. 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:27.639 You understand what I'm saying. 1:12:27.960 --> 1:12:30.840 I want to enjoy your shit, just like I'm a fan. 1:12:31.000 --> 1:12:33.920 First niggas think yo smack just this, that and the third, 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:36.639 But nah, I really love this shit man. You understand 1:12:36.640 --> 1:12:39.160 what I'm saying. So it's like I want to just chill, 1:12:39.439 --> 1:12:41.800 sip on my drink and just watch, you know what 1:12:41.840 --> 1:12:43.840 I mean, everybody get busy, you. 1:12:43.880 --> 1:12:45.240 Know what I mean, instead of like, you know what 1:12:45.280 --> 1:12:47.559 I mean. So I was just like, yo, man, I'm 1:12:47.640 --> 1:12:49.439 about to do something with you know what I'm saying. 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:50.920 I might have you know what I mean, just you know, 1:12:51.160 --> 1:12:54.200 just different people host so I might just get a 1:12:54.320 --> 1:12:56.840 co host or whatever, just to turn up, just to 1:12:57.479 --> 1:12:59.120 you know what I'm saying, so I could just sit 1:12:59.240 --> 1:12:59.559 back and. 1:12:59.680 --> 1:13:01.040 Just enjoy this ship. 1:13:01.200 --> 1:13:03.000 Man. You know, sometimes. 1:13:04.400 --> 1:13:08.320 With it, huh yeah, sometimes you just want to watch 1:13:08.360 --> 1:13:10.599 your son play because you know me and they both. 1:13:12.960 --> 1:13:15.200 You know, my perspective in my view is the best 1:13:15.479 --> 1:13:17.800 view in our house though, because I'm right there in 1:13:17.840 --> 1:13:18.479 front of center. 1:13:18.840 --> 1:13:20.560 But I just want to just get a different you 1:13:20.600 --> 1:13:23.080 know what I'm saying, point of view and ship like that. 1:13:23.280 --> 1:13:25.280 I want to see how I feel it, you know 1:13:25.280 --> 1:13:27.479 what I mean. Sit down, man, I've been standing on 1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:29.719 my feet. You know what I'm saying for years. 1:13:30.720 --> 1:13:31.280 You know what I'm say. 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:31.719 I'm saying. 1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:35.880 You know them batteries and the eventually longest longest hit man. 1:13:36.200 --> 1:13:39.800 You know, I talking about nine hours standing on your feet. 1:13:40.200 --> 1:13:41.760 You know what I mean. Just chilling, you know what 1:13:41.760 --> 1:13:43.880 I mean. And it's just like yo, I just want 1:13:43.960 --> 1:13:45.519 to be chilling. I just want to sit back and. 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:50.120 Just enjoy this shit sometimes, man, you know, or yeah, 1:13:50.200 --> 1:13:53.920 for sure, for sure, man, I'm gonna asking this question. 1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:55.680 I know I ain't gonna get no answer from you. 1:13:56.760 --> 1:13:58.240 Any predictions. 1:13:59.640 --> 1:14:01.320 Of of of of summer madness? 1:14:01.880 --> 1:14:06.040 Yeah, of course madness. Yeah, any predictions. Oh man, no, 1:14:06.280 --> 1:14:08.640 I don't. You know, you know, I don't got no. 1:14:10.120 --> 1:14:12.920 Like I put the car together to figure the ship out, man, 1:14:13.080 --> 1:14:15.599 Like this is what I do it Like I really. 1:14:15.520 --> 1:14:17.280 Like battle with like you know what I mean. 1:14:18.280 --> 1:14:21.439 I put the car together because I don't know who 1:14:21.560 --> 1:14:24.280 the fuck will win these battles, you know. 1:14:24.280 --> 1:14:24.720 What I'm saying. 1:14:24.760 --> 1:14:26.000 I don't know who's gonna win. 1:14:26.280 --> 1:14:30.400 So it's like I feel like everybody have a chance 1:14:30.479 --> 1:14:32.880 to win. That's why that's how I picked the card, 1:14:33.360 --> 1:14:35.920 because it's so competitive. You got Jerry West versus DNA. 1:14:36.600 --> 1:14:38.560 You got t T, you got t Top against you 1:14:38.600 --> 1:14:41.960 know what I'm saying, John Johna done like anybody could 1:14:42.000 --> 1:14:42.200 take it. 1:14:42.240 --> 1:14:45.600 You got shotguns, Shigar against motherfucking you know what I'm saying, Fans. 1:14:47.439 --> 1:14:48.200 Against fans. 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:51.280 You know what I'm saying, Like that that that's that's crazy. 1:14:51.280 --> 1:14:52.840 You gotta hollow the down versus New Jersey. 1:14:52.920 --> 1:14:55.799 Twurk's crazy. 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:58.360 You got DNA versus Jerry West. 1:15:00.040 --> 1:15:03.120 It's gonna be crazy. It's a crazy car. Like it's 1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:04.720 a crazy car, and people and. 1:15:04.800 --> 1:15:08.120 People and people are trying to, like, you know, criticize 1:15:08.200 --> 1:15:10.439 the card, saying your shit is Mikia. 1:15:10.840 --> 1:15:13.479 Yo, Bro, I don't do the name shit no more 1:15:13.640 --> 1:15:15.800 like I've been off the name shit. I want people 1:15:15.880 --> 1:15:16.559 that get busy. 1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:19.200 I want people that's gonna go and you know what 1:15:19.240 --> 1:15:21.200 I'm saying, give one hundred and ten percent when they 1:15:21.240 --> 1:15:25.320 step in that motherfucking stage and really turn up and 1:15:25.680 --> 1:15:29.000 everybody that's battling each other is gonna basically, you know 1:15:29.040 --> 1:15:32.400 what I'm saying, deliver the best performance. Like that's how 1:15:32.439 --> 1:15:34.599 I put the car together. I ain't give a fuck 1:15:34.640 --> 1:15:38.160 about getting who got the biggest profile of that name 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:42.880 or that nah, like nah, these dudes basically are the 1:15:43.000 --> 1:15:46.120 most consistent in the game right now for my person 1:15:46.360 --> 1:15:47.680 from my point of view. 1:15:48.960 --> 1:15:51.280 You know what I'm saying wrong, You're keeping it wrong, 1:15:51.400 --> 1:15:51.600 you know. 1:15:52.479 --> 1:15:54.479 And I guarantee you, and I guarantee you. 1:15:55.040 --> 1:15:58.640 I guarantee you that this is gonna be like the 1:15:58.720 --> 1:16:00.240 best card of the year. Guy. 1:16:00.400 --> 1:16:02.320 You know what I'm saying content wise? 1:16:03.120 --> 1:16:04.880 You know what I mean when it comes to entertainment, 1:16:05.280 --> 1:16:09.880 when it comes to the competitiveness of the culture, I 1:16:10.000 --> 1:16:10.559 guarantee you. 1:16:10.560 --> 1:16:12.160 This ship, Like you know what I'm saying be You 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:16.360 know what I mean that that that that ship. I'm 1:16:16.400 --> 1:16:18.679 the god of this ship. I'm the god of this ship. 1:16:18.880 --> 1:16:20.080 I'm the god of this ship. 1:16:20.320 --> 1:16:21.920 Let's talk, I'm the god of this ship. 1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:25.040 So so so so so. 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:28.880 You know, I love when people try to like question 1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:32.840 me and and try to like, we're gonna see what 1:16:32.880 --> 1:16:34.760 it's hitting for we are. 1:16:36.760 --> 1:16:37.479 This is what I do. 1:16:38.120 --> 1:16:39.160 You understand. 1:16:40.600 --> 1:16:43.320 I'm talk You know I'm gonna talk. You're I'm gonna 1:16:43.320 --> 1:16:45.439 talking respectfully, like you know what I'm saying. 1:16:45.520 --> 1:16:47.599 And you know, at the end of the day, when 1:16:47.600 --> 1:16:49.920 it's all sudding down, i'mna just look and like, yeah, 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:51.800 I told y'all, so you know what I'm saying. 1:16:52.080 --> 1:16:54.200 Like I told y'all, you know what I mean. 1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:56.599 And I want to see anybody else that's doing anything 1:16:56.640 --> 1:16:58.840 else in the motherfucking culture live up to what the 1:16:58.920 --> 1:17:00.120 fuck this ship is gonna live up to. 1:17:00.600 --> 1:17:04.479 Hence done. Like I said, Man, you've done it twice. Man. 1:17:04.520 --> 1:17:06.519 You know, look, let me tell you something before we 1:17:06.600 --> 1:17:10.240 get out of here. Man, it is very hard. 1:17:11.560 --> 1:17:14.160 To pull the needle out the haystack. You feel what 1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:16.400 I'm saying, To think of that one dope idea that's 1:17:16.439 --> 1:17:20.479 life changing. I've had the chance to do it twice 1:17:20.560 --> 1:17:23.080 in my life. You know big, you know, to think 1:17:23.120 --> 1:17:26.840 of something and it's really flourished from me, right, it's 1:17:26.920 --> 1:17:27.760 hard to think of one. 1:17:27.960 --> 1:17:28.560 You've done it. 1:17:29.280 --> 1:17:32.799 You've done it multiple times, and you've created an industry. 1:17:32.880 --> 1:17:37.479 Bro Like, honestly, without you, I probably you talk about 1:17:37.520 --> 1:17:39.320 I inspired you. I wouldn't be doing what I was 1:17:39.360 --> 1:17:41.040 doing without you did the first. 1:17:41.920 --> 1:17:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I was the first, 1:17:46.400 --> 1:17:49.280 Like Nigga, I was the first podcast to you know, 1:17:49.439 --> 1:17:52.439 all these podcasts running around, you know what I mean, 1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:55.400 and they ain't not even doing Like I'm not even 1:17:55.439 --> 1:17:57.320 gonna I'm not gonna talk too much because I don't 1:17:57.320 --> 1:18:00.040 want to give them too much game. But like you 1:18:00.040 --> 1:18:01.160 know what I'm saying, at the end of the day, 1:18:01.200 --> 1:18:03.720 now they're not even doing it how they need to 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:06.200 be doing it. But like you know what I'm saying. 1:18:06.600 --> 1:18:08.800 You know, you know, it's easy to set up a 1:18:08.880 --> 1:18:11.519 microphone and just talk to somebody and just talk shit 1:18:11.560 --> 1:18:13.680 and shit like that. But like at the end of 1:18:13.720 --> 1:18:17.839 the day, man, you know, I could come back anytime 1:18:17.960 --> 1:18:20.320 and take and reign supreme. 1:18:21.280 --> 1:18:22.280 Man, come back on me. 1:18:23.200 --> 1:18:23.760 You know what I'm saying. 1:18:23.800 --> 1:18:26.440 I can come back anytime I want and reign supreme 1:18:26.640 --> 1:18:29.280 because I'm connected to a different and higher source, a 1:18:29.360 --> 1:18:30.880 higher power and the ship. 1:18:31.760 --> 1:18:34.720 That's what I'm saying. Like I got the I got 1:18:34.760 --> 1:18:38.360 the realist and the biggest dudes like you know what 1:18:38.400 --> 1:18:40.400 I mean behind me, Like you know what I mean. 1:18:40.479 --> 1:18:45.840 All the dudes that it's over here came up looking 1:18:46.040 --> 1:18:47.840 and watching me. You feel me. 1:18:48.240 --> 1:18:52.519 So it's like, you know, anytime I want to want 1:18:52.880 --> 1:18:55.200 one change, I could just press the button. And you 1:18:55.280 --> 1:18:58.680 know that's just the blessings and the gift that I 1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:01.720 have for the from the contributions that you know what 1:19:01.760 --> 1:19:03.400 I'm saying, I gave to this ship. 1:19:04.200 --> 1:19:08.160 And you know what, dude that's in position, that's real respected. 1:19:10.000 --> 1:19:13.400 They respected. You know what it is too, Man. 1:19:14.439 --> 1:19:17.120 I can tell that everything you do, you come in 1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:20.360 to it with the intended just doing the dopest thing possible. 1:19:20.800 --> 1:19:23.200 I'm gonna tell you what the problem is today with 1:19:23.720 --> 1:19:26.040 just in general, with content and everything else. 1:19:26.560 --> 1:19:31.160 Everybody is looking to make a bag. Everybody's looking to 1:19:31.240 --> 1:19:33.360 make a bag. Man. But I appreciate you man coming 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:34.320 to sit down with us. 1:19:34.400 --> 1:19:38.240 Man, You'll remember, definitely, Man, I had a good time. 1:19:38.320 --> 1:19:39.160 I had a good time. 1:19:39.240 --> 1:19:39.400 Man. 1:19:39.479 --> 1:19:41.000 I'm sure nobody like. 1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:46.439 You know what I'm saying, Yo, man, when when when 1:19:46.479 --> 1:19:47.360 you I'm ready? 1:19:47.360 --> 1:19:48.240 When you ready man? 1:19:48.560 --> 1:19:52.080 Or you know you know what the next time, man, 1:19:52.360 --> 1:19:53.920 the next time I want you to be sitting out 1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:55.280 here with us. When the next time you be on 1:19:55.320 --> 1:19:55.960 the coast. 1:19:57.040 --> 1:19:59.599 A ship man, I don't even know. I don't even 1:19:59.720 --> 1:20:02.400 got no no nothing on my itiner rate right now 1:20:02.479 --> 1:20:04.800 for l A or CALLI. You know what I'm saying 1:20:04.920 --> 1:20:07.920 right now? But ship we we we we can make 1:20:07.960 --> 1:20:08.360 it something. 1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:09.000 You know what I'm saying. 1:20:09.280 --> 1:20:11.479 You know, me and me and eight will be in 1:20:11.760 --> 1:20:13.720 New York the first of the year. We're gonna go 1:20:13.800 --> 1:20:15.240 make our little run out. There's time. 1:20:15.320 --> 1:20:16.720 We got to go to New York. You know what 1:20:16.720 --> 1:20:17.760 I mean. We can run out there. 1:20:17.840 --> 1:20:19.720 Dog we go bump in to you. 1:20:20.680 --> 1:20:20.840 Yeah. 1:20:20.920 --> 1:20:22.920 Nah, Just keep the lines open, you know what I'm saying. 1:20:23.680 --> 1:20:26.280 You know, I'm gonna get your information, You're gonna take. 1:20:26.240 --> 1:20:28.040 Minds, and then we're gonna definitely keep the lines of 1:20:28.080 --> 1:20:31.639 communications open, you know what I mean, and connect. 1:20:31.680 --> 1:20:32.080 You know what I mean. 1:20:32.160 --> 1:20:34.200 If you ain't doing nothing on the twenty seven, come 1:20:34.320 --> 1:20:35.680 come pull up, man, you. 1:20:35.800 --> 1:20:39.400 Gotta come pull up like I might just do that. 1:20:39.520 --> 1:20:42.519 I might, you know what you know I'm gonna roll out, 1:20:42.600 --> 1:20:47.559 you know, yo, listen, I'm rolling out the red carpet. 1:20:48.840 --> 1:20:50.040 You know we got to keep it. You know, we 1:20:50.120 --> 1:20:52.439 got the key to the city for the weekend. You 1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:54.080 know what I'm saying. I got, I got, I got, 1:20:54.160 --> 1:20:54.840 I got a lot of. 1:20:54.800 --> 1:20:56.439 Ship going off for the whole weekend. 1:20:57.160 --> 1:20:59.120 Come come come through and that you you know what 1:20:59.120 --> 1:21:01.720 I mean, that's that's that's you know, be the you 1:21:01.760 --> 1:21:05.160 know what I mean, the official start of an introduction. 1:21:04.840 --> 1:21:07.280 Of like you know what I'm saying for real, like yo, 1:21:07.439 --> 1:21:08.439 come come pull up. 1:21:09.120 --> 1:21:10.040 For sure for sure. 1:21:10.160 --> 1:21:10.280 Man. 1:21:11.200 --> 1:21:13.759 So that concludes this episode. 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.640 But before we go, I need you guys to go 1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:20.000 in that description going to the description down there, man, 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:21.760 because some of y'all out there, I wonder about some 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:22.120 of y'all. 1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:24.800 Love y'all, but I wonder go down there and hit 1:21:24.880 --> 1:21:26.160 that caffeineling. 1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:30.120 So on August twenty seven, when it jumps off, you 1:21:30.200 --> 1:21:32.599 don't miss out because it's gonna be something to talk about. 1:21:33.439 --> 1:21:36.479 Trust murder out So man is thirteen. 1:21:40.360 --> 1:21:42.559 Don't miss history. Be a part of it. You're let's 1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:42.840 get it. 1:21:44.439 --> 1:21:44.840 For sure. 1:21:44.880 --> 1:21:47.160 On that note, were out of here. Well, that concludes 1:21:47.200 --> 1:21:49.840 another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:52.200 to download the iHeart app and subscribe to the Gangst 1:21:52.200 --> 1:21:55.320 the Chronicles podcast. For Apple users, find a purple mica 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:57.120 on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, 1:21:57.240 --> 1:22:00.120 leave a common and rating. Executive producers for the Games 1:22:00.160 --> 1:22:03.120 to Chronicles Podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron m c a Tyler. 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:06.080 Our visual media director is Brian Whyatt, and our audio 1:22:06.200 --> 1:22:08.920 editors tell It Hayes. The Gainst Chronicles is a production 1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:12.400 of iHeartMedia Network and the Black Effect Podcast Network. 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