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Speaker 2: All across the USC Compton, Watts Bay to LA. Come

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Speaker 2: the Chronicles.

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Speaker 1: Chronic Goals. We gonna tell you how.

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Speaker 3: Are we goals?

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Speaker 4: If I lie my nose will girl like Pinocchio. We're

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Speaker 1: Gangs the chronic goals. This is not your average shows.

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Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't, Big Change

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Speaker 2: and Big Steals the streets.

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Speaker 3: rating the comment. We like to welcome every one to

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Speaker 3: another episode the Gainst the Chronicles Podcast. I got my

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Speaker 3: dog from comt and sit next to me shure today, Man,

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Speaker 3: we got a special guests on show eight, got a

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Speaker 1: Man the dude.

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Speaker 3: Man is pretty much responsible for a lot of things

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Speaker 3: Man that you see going on today. Man often imitated,

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Speaker 3: for the thing, asked me if I want to do this?

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Speaker 1: I said, hell yeah. It don't need to be no question.

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Speaker 4: Asked me what day and what times? The chronicles many

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, you know, we gat up from the feed up.

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Speaker 4: You know I have to check in, you know what

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Speaker 4: I mean, tap in with y'all. Man, what's up for Shell?

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Speaker 3: For Shell for Shure? Man, So y'all got something going down?

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Speaker 3: Man on the end of this month. Man on the

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Speaker 3: twenty seventh, Man, it's like the Super Bowl for Battle

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Speaker 5: We're both for Battle Raps summer. Man, that's thirteen going

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Speaker 5: down August twenty seventh. You know what I'm saying, Houston, Texas,

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Speaker 5: I'm about to shake up the building. I'm about to

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Speaker 5: city of Houston. You know what I'm saying. Houston is

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Speaker 5: A lot of OG's come from you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: I just want to, you know, show my love and

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Speaker 5: the city of Houston. That's why I chose to actually

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Speaker 5: You know, I always try to go to Houston one

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Speaker 4: And it's time.

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Speaker 4: It's time. August twenty seventh, we out there.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Houston is a live city.

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Speaker 3: Man. We don't kind of go back to your history, man,

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Speaker 4: Man, before the Smack DVD series? You talking to you

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Speaker 5: I was just basically, you know, coming up, cooking up

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Speaker 5: And it was me responsible of cleaning that shit up

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Speaker 4: Shit is whack. I mean I was getting paid good

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Speaker 5: I just remember like hallways long, mopping and shit, just

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Speaker 4: Like I need, I need, I need more than this life,

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Speaker 5: I just came up with, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: Like you know what, Mandy, every DVD you used to

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Speaker 5: I just made everybody have their own little segment on

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Speaker 4: So I got with like you know what I'm saying

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Speaker 5: Necessary hip hop dudes that I knew that I had

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Speaker 5: Back then, that shit was a lot of money. Like

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: You know, twas steal a nice little mama changed today,

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Speaker 3: you know, for out there working every week.

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Speaker 5: Listen, Man, we in twenty twenty three, so like right now,

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Speaker 5: that shit ain't ship. But back then, that shit was

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Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying. So I made it happen.

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Speaker 5: I got the necessary equipment just off the passion that

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Speaker 5: And then, you know what I'm saying, got the equipment,

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Speaker 5: It never looked back. So that's how the smack DVD

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Man, I think do you

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Speaker 3: ever sit back, Troy and just wonder sometimes? Man, you

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Speaker 3: look at all the stuff like you look at YouTube

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Speaker 3: I was talking off are you were pretty much YouTube

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Speaker 1: I was outside like your DVDs dog exactly.

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Speaker 4: I was outside before they was outside. Like listen, you

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Speaker 1: I was the bible of the culture of hip hop before.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, the YouTube before the world stars,

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Speaker 5: what was going on because I was getting a shit

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Speaker 4: The bets and the mtvs. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I'm really like, you know what i mean, tapped in,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, running around with these dudes.

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Speaker 5: I'm saying, So you know they had to basically tap

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Speaker 7: You know, Smack, I wanted to ask you. I wanted

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Speaker 4: To twelve r p R let me to twelve with

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Speaker 4: So where was we.

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Speaker 1: In, Queen?

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Speaker 7: Because I always tell people where was that? I don't

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Speaker 1: Where was that that was in?

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Speaker 5: That was in that was off of off of Rockaway

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Speaker 5: and something and in the projects right there. I forget

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Speaker 4: I don't call it the projects, but the complex. You

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: Fox was definitely you know what I'm saying, you know,

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I gave him a look. We collaborated,

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Speaker 7: Reason why I'm saying that because back then to do

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Speaker 7: and historically back that was me, you Beasley, Trave, picture Perfect,

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Speaker 4: That's why I tried to just shout out to Trave.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying, so now when you look black, we all

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Speaker 7: went on to do our things.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget wrecked, don't get don't forget you know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what I wanted to know, Bro is on First

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Speaker 7: of all, I ain't know we had bloods in New

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Speaker 7: a lot of them. How do you feel now that

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Speaker 7: but they didn't have to hit the streets. You know,

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Speaker 7: at one point when we did certain things, you was

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Speaker 7: some of the things they say.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, we live in a different age

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Speaker 5: right now, Like you know what I'm saying. Everything is different,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, the time, in.

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Speaker 4: The culture, like the perception, the technology, everything is.

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Speaker 5: It's a different world. Like you know what, I'm shit that,

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Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying. We didn't have didn't

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Speaker 5: it's like these kids grew up different than what we did,

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Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, Like you, like you said,

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Speaker 5: we really had to be outside. Like now, you outside

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Speaker 5: is just basically putting a funk on in front of

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Speaker 5: post that shit on the ground, you get views every

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Speaker 5: you outside. That's not outside, my nigga.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Like I tell niggas, I was at gunpoint more than

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Speaker 7: That's why I wanted to That's why I want to

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Speaker 7: let people know we understand what I'm saying. Like outside,

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Speaker 7: when we went to this area, we went to this area, well,

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Speaker 7: I was like, what the fuck is this? I'm a

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Speaker 7: Like three hundred dudes. We went to parks, we went

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Speaker 7: to places, but smack with spearhead and the whole thing.

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Speaker 7: And I was like, nah, this shit different, this shit different.

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Speaker 7: So when people think he just a guy that do

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Speaker 7: battle rap, ain't from the trenches of what y'all have

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Speaker 7: no idea. And I don't think many of you if

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Speaker 7: you had to do what he did, what I had

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Speaker 7: to do to get on, you wouldn't even do it.

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Speaker 7: You wouldn't even do it because it's easy just to

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Speaker 7: had to be outide.

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Speaker 1: Nah, yo, listen, man.

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Speaker 5: And I try to explain to dudes all the time,

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Speaker 5: like you know what I mean, They don't even know

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Speaker 5: to have. Like that's something like I got tucking, I

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Speaker 5: got tucking in the.

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Speaker 4: Stash, like all the footage.

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Speaker 5: I got so much footage that I didn't release. You

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Speaker 5: know what scares me the most, man, You know what

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Speaker 5: scares me the most, what excuse me the most is

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Speaker 5: when I go back and all kinds, when I look

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Speaker 5: at the footage, I see so many niggas that's not.

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Speaker 1: Here, no more right here.

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Speaker 5: That shit is so it's spooky yeah, Bookie, Like I

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Speaker 5: look at the content and I'm like, Damn, he's gone.

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Speaker 5: He's going, he's going, he's doing life. He's locked up,

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Speaker 5: He's gone this one, you know.

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Speaker 1: What I mean.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy, though, Doug, and need to still be here

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Speaker 5: and you know, surviving and still striving on my mission

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Speaker 5: of creating content and you know, just bringing that realness

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Speaker 5: to the culture as far as like you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, a content creator and just doing something else

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Speaker 5: that you know what I mean is just more laid

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Speaker 5: back and mellowed out, which is battle rap. I just

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Speaker 5: feel blessed, and I'm just glad that I'm still here, man,

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Speaker 5: you know, and you know, I'm just trying to just

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Speaker 5: you know what i mean, just building it as much

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Speaker 5: as possible. I'm still building on my legacy. I haven't

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Speaker 5: yet sit back and stopped to watch all my accolades

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Speaker 5: of what I accomplished. I'm still working. I still feel young.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm in the best shape of my life.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I still feel like I

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Speaker 5: I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Let me ask, and I'm.

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Speaker 4: Twenty and I'm twenty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm one and twenty in because you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, the first DVD came out two thousand and two,

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Speaker 5: two thousand and two thousand and two, so I'm like

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Speaker 7: You had some of the most historical battles on DVD.

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Speaker 7: See people don't even know that error was different than James's.

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Speaker 7: That's what Jen and the serious Jones that that Ian

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Speaker 7: Solomon you had.

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Speaker 4: Dog yo yo, when when when?

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Speaker 1: When?

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Speaker 4: When? When I talk about like.

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Speaker 5: Having a like you know what I mean the battles

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Speaker 5: that I like, I started the coaching, like the way

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Speaker 5: I started the coaching. Like there wasn't battle rap on camera,

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Speaker 5: a cappella though a cappello the nott no beat.

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Speaker 4: I mean not talking about battling on beat.

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Speaker 1: That's not what we do.

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Speaker 5: You know, dude like that, I mean we respect that,

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Speaker 5: and you know I might I fuck with it too,

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Speaker 5: I fuck with it. But like I'm talking about acapella,

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Speaker 5: like how we used to street, how we used to

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Speaker 5: do it in the lunch rooms, how we used to

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Speaker 5: do it in the barber shops where we're from. You know,

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Speaker 5: the clo you know the cloth that we cut from,

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Speaker 5: you know, I mean New York City, hip hop.

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Speaker 4: Yo, Yo, your man nice, bring him over here. I

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Speaker 4: got ten stacks.

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Speaker 5: That cloth, that cloth, that's the cut, that's the cloth

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Speaker 5: that I'm cut from. Like at the end of the day,

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Speaker 5: that's what we represent. I was the first to get

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Speaker 5: that on camera to promote around the world.

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Speaker 1: Do my platform on a smack DVD.

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Speaker 5: You did your brother Love Brother Loves Joint.

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Speaker 4: Hosting my joint just because your smack Yo. Come on

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Speaker 4: smack were yo, just off the love smack Yo. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna get this ship pop and come to daddy out.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna boom, Jay Mills.

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Speaker 3: One of the things out here y'all talk about is

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Speaker 3: the culture, right and we in the fifty years deep

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Speaker 3: in hip hop right now right, I'm an og dog.

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Speaker 3: I'm fifty three years old.

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Speaker 7: Dog.

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Speaker 3: I can remember when you know, hearing my first hip

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Speaker 3: no biting.

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Speaker 1: Everybody had to be a rigid yo.

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Speaker 4: You get yo, you bite, you get fucked up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for real. You know you can.

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Speaker 4: They coming to see you if you If you bit

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Speaker 4: biting like you, you you getting.

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Speaker 3: Approached, Yeah for sure. And I wanted to leave that

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Speaker 3: as a little segue into something. When you created smack,

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Speaker 3: there were a slew of other water down versions of smack.

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Speaker 1: They came to the street. Not this is nobody else, but.

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Speaker 3: You got copy that imitate it, you know, they say

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Speaker 3: imitations of you know, purest form of flattery. I don't

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Speaker 3: know though I see this disrespect kind of.

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Speaker 1: What was.

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Speaker 5: I love you now with you but not at the

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Speaker 5: end of the day, you know, Yeah, imitation is the

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Speaker 5: a lot of a lot a lot of people didn't

439
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, you know, immolated, you know

440
00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,119
Speaker 5: what I mean, my format, my style and ship like that.

441
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:28,879
Speaker 4: You know, it is what it is, like I showed

442
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 4: the culture how to get money in a certain way.

443
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,240
Speaker 1: M hm. You understand what I'm saying.

444
00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 4: They just took a page out of my book and

445
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 4: did what they had to do. You know what I'm saying.

446
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 4: I don't I don't knock that ship. I'm not never

447
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 4: mad at that ship.

448
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 5: As long as they did it and they own original

449
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 5: way to like ghost say, ghost Face said it the best.

450
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 1: Shout out to my uncle Ghosts.

451
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, ghost Face killers, yo, man, yo,

452
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 5: just do your own ship, man, and you know what

453
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 5: I mean, and be original, alon as you got originality

454
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 5: in your ship, like you know what I mean, your

455
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 5: original with what you do, then I don't have a problem.

456
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: But don't do exactly what the fuck I do?

457
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 4: You understanding at.

458
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 5: Least throw your own spin to the ship, bring something

459
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 5: to add something new to the ship.

460
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 4: Don't just do what the fuck I do.

461
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 5: I'm going through the same ship right now and the

462
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 5: culture that I'm in, Like you know what I'm saying,

463
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 5: let me slow down, let me, let me.

464
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 7: Let me, let me still, let me ask them something

465
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 7: so and also, Smack, you have a lot of street

466
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 7: dudes that you change their life, right, change their life,

467
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 7: I say all the time, y'all niggas gotta remember nine

468
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 7: minutes of rhymes and you might get from five thousand

469
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 7: dollars to fifty thousand, and you can't remember that ship.

470
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 7: You get more than Jadakiss for an hour set and

471
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 7: you can't remember nine minutes of rhymes. It's time, Smack,

472
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 7: where you had to? I can't eat that.

473
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 4: That's my favorite, you know, Oh you know that sh

474
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 4: That shit might be on my fucking tombsto. I can't.

475
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 7: Oh, were the business did you think the business would

476
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 7: be so hard for so many of these brothers to grasp.

477
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 7: And the business means the money, the finances, the paperwork.

478
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 7: They don't understand that concept of paperwork and W nine's

479
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 7: and all that. How hard has it been to try

480
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 7: to get some of these individuals to understand we do

481
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 7: this for the love of the culture, but it's still business.

482
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

483
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 5: I try to bring that home to these dudes all

484
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 5: the time because, like you know what I'm saying, at

485
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 5: the end of the day, you know what I mean.

486
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: You know, these people want their money. You know what

487
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: I mean. It's modern day slavery.

488
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 4: Man.

489
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 5: They not letting nobody eat just to eat. You understand

490
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You gotta pay them taxes, man, And

491
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 5: that's a form of slavery. Like you know what I'm saying,

492
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 5: because you know, at the end of the day, still

493
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 5: say that the time. Listen, man, they need their PC.

494
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck if you make five dollars,

495
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 5: I want two fifty.

496
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 4: That's how they just how that's how this government give

497
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 4: it up. You understand what I'm saying.

498
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 5: And I can't be responsible for nobody else. I only

499
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 5: I only could be responsible for my ship.

500
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Everybody gotta you.

501
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 5: Know what I mean, be grown men and take care

502
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 5: and handle the weight. You know, they make their own

503
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 5: decision or however they want to move. But like I

504
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 5: know that you ain't gonna be able to make no

505
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 5: money if you owe these people money.

506
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: So I just make sure that you know what I'm saying.

507
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 5: My tasers crossing, my eyes has dotted, and everybody else

508
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 5: is on their own time. But it's definitely a business,

509
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Because you know what I'm saying,

510
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 5: any dollar that is going into your account got to

511
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 5: be accounted for.

512
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: And that's just basically what it is.

513
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 4: You feel me, And you know, I explain that to.

514
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 5: I explain that to all these dudes, and I try to, like,

515
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, you know, just me being older,

516
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 5: just me being a you know, you know, a role

517
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 5: model to a lot of these dudes that you know

518
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 5: what I mean, seeing you know, my accomplishments and see

519
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 5: where I came from and see where you know the

520
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 5: levels that I took it to and how I took

521
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 5: it to them levels. It's certain protocols that you got

522
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 5: to follow and paying taxes is one of them. You

523
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, So you gotta basically you know

524
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. It's a couple of things that you

525
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 5: need on your team, uh, to get money. And that's

526
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 5: a lawyer, that's accountant.

527
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Those two. It's key you

528
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: feel me so essential for anybody else this last year.

529
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 7: Also in the culture, you you befriended a lot of people.

530
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 7: You might advanced people money. You might have paid niggas rent,

531
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 7: You might have did a lot. Yes, some times a

532
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 7: lot of brothers get mad at you when they not

533
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 7: on this car. They ain't getting this battle. I just

534
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 7: but they might not be putting them asking them, you

535
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 7: know them asses in them seats. They might not be

536
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 7: buying the pay for you. How hard has it been

537
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 7: for you to tell some of your friends, yo, you're

538
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 7: not hot right now? Yah, you gotta get hot for

539
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 7: the people want to see you, because you know, this

540
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 7: man might depend on his battle to feed his family,

541
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 7: but he ain't bringing it. He ain't bringing no heat.

542
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 7: How hard has it been to personally tell some of them?

543
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: Yo?

544
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 7: I can't.

545
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 4: I mean it is a matter for you.

546
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: You know, it cost a lot of tension, you know

547
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and the course of my career, you know,

548
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, you know, like

549
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 5: you said, like it's a business. At the end of

550
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 5: the day, Like you know what I'm saying, I got

551
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 5: to keep the machine going so we all can eat.

552
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 5: And if you're not in demand at the time, you

553
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 5: just got to respect that shit, make some adjustments to

554
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 5: make the necessary you know what I'm saying, moves to

555
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 5: get back in position where mother fuck just want to

556
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 5: see you understand, So you know, like this shit is

557
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 5: not personal, it's business, you know what what I'm saying.

558
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 4: So I had to learn that because I was.

559
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,959
Speaker 5: On some personal shit for a long time looking out

560
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 5: for niggas just you know what I mean, knowing more

561
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 5: fuckers situation might not prepare or might fuck up or

562
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 5: might not you know what I mean, deliver fucking three rounds.

563
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, I have a liking

564
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 4: for them.

565
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,879
Speaker 5: I have some type of loyalty for these individuals.

566
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 4: So it's just like, yo, come on, I'm gonna place you.

567
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 5: But like that shit is over with because that shit

568
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 5: started to like jeopardize my situation of credibility of respect

569
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 5: when it came to the fans and shit like that.

570
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 5: So I had to cut that shit out because you

571
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. At the end of the day,

572
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna let you know what I'm saying nobody

573
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 5: else negligence interrupt my opportunities of what I created and

574
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 5: what I established to basically feed my family.

575
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying.

576
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 7: Because you let the fans know that might not know

577
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 7: that at one particular point you was kind of banned

578
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 7: in New York and no fault to yours. We had

579
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 7: the Urban Plaza unfortunate incidents, the banger, but then the

580
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 7: punch and Irvin Plaza too, and you took all the

581
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 7: blame for the first of all, the fight and that

582
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 7: took place. You got kicked out of New York and

583
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 7: then the unfortunate incident happened. So that's one of the

584
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 7: reasons why you had to go to Houston. You had

585
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 7: to travel because you want to the people don't know.

586
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 7: You want to stay home and you want to do

587
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 7: shit home, but they home wasn't your home for a while.

588
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 7: What you went through with all that shit.

589
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 5: First of all, New York City is just the like

590
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: that state is just a fucked up state when it

591
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: comes to business speak on this. You know what I'm saying,

592
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 5: as far as let's start with the taxes, Like if

593
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 5: you live in the Five Boroughs, not only that you

594
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 5: got to pay you know what I'm saying, the fects,

595
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 5: you gotta pay the Feds federal income.

596
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: Then you gotta pay the state.

597
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 4: And if you live in the Five Boroughs, you gotta

598
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 4: pay the city taxes of New York City.

599
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 5: Bro, you understand that what I'm saying, You're getting hit

600
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 5: from three different angles.

601
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 4: Not to mention, you know, the venues and shit like that.

602
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: They scared of us. They don't even want they don't

603
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 4: even want to give us the business, like you know

604
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, even though I could pack that shit

605
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 4: out with my eyes closed.

606
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 5: Half two thousand motherfuckers come up in your motherfucking venue.

607
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 5: Yeah it's a little rowdy, but everybody's coming in peace,

608
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 5: like they just want to see what they want to see,

609
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

610
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 4: They scared of our kind, like you know what I mean.

611
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: So like you know what I mean, I feel like

612
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, New York.

613
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 5: Is been discriminating against you know what I'm saying our culture,

614
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean when it comes to like

615
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 5: underground for years, so it's hard for me to secure

616
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: the venues necessary for us to have a successful event

617
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 5: where it makes sense, where I can actually recoup the

618
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 5: money that you know, what I'm saying is basically being

619
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 5: allocated out.

620
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: To make the event happen.

621
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 5: You understand what I'm saying, Like it's just the nasty market,

622
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying all around the board, like

623
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and then not to even

624
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 5: mention like I know everybody in the city, so like

625
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: it's hard for me to tell niggas no, I can't.

626
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 4: I just can't tell no too because I was outside.

627
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 4: Niggas did a lot of shit for me.

628
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 1: Yo.

629
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 4: They good, Yo, he good?

630
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Yo?

631
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 4: How much he good?

632
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: He good?

633
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 4: I don't get no money in New York, bro.

634
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 7: And also let the audience know that they might not

635
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 7: know they hear about it. Let them know how real

636
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 7: them hip hop police is. Let them know how real

637
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 7: it is.

638
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 5: Listen, man, I mean, I just I they knew me

639
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: for years because of what I did, Like you know

640
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: what I mean, you know, guns and all type of shit.

641
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: You know, Yo, this person got hit. Yo.

642
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: Heard it was on Camra.

643
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 5: I ain't had nothing to do, Yo, Yo, heard was

644
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: on Smack. Y'all get out of here like I wasn't

645
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 5: even out. Youre bugging like they they hip hop police

646
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 5: is real, Like you know what I'm saying. In case

647
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 5: you don't know, but you know what I'm saying. You know,

648
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: I know some hip hop police and they fuck with

649
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 5: me like you know what I'm saying. So it's like, Yo, listen, YO,

650
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 5: We're gonna let you rock your smack. Just make sure this, this, this,

651
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 5: that and the third eye got you boom. That's how

652
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 5: I was able to do what I had to do

653
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: for so many years.

654
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: Listen what I'm saying.

655
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 4: So you know you're laying on.

656
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: Some real quick smack.

657
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: You you know, it being hard to do business in

658
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: New York and those other factors that you talked about,

659
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: is that when you started doing more stuff on the

660
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: West Coast.

661
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was always on the West Coast. I was

662
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: on the West Coast. Since you know what I'm saying,

663
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: it's smack DVDs.

664
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 5: When I was around there with Game and you know

665
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 5: what I mean, Game had me and Compton and you know,

666
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.

667
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: You know, b m F.

668
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We was out there, like

669
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 4: I was. We We we had like a lot of ties,

670
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: you know.

671
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, Mitchie Slick and them, you know, fucking

672
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 5: m the cartoon, you know what I'm saying, on some tattoo.

673
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 4: All this shit, like you know what I mean. I

674
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 4: was real diverse with like you know, the content that I.

675
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: Was creating for the West Coast and giving them that

676
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 5: look on the East Coast and around the world or

677
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 5: wherever like my arms reached to. You know, I always

678
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 5: felt that I was always a fan of the West Coast,

679
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 5: you know, movement as far as like n w A.

680
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, ice Cube, you.

681
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

682
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: Easy, You know what I mean, Doctor Dre You know

683
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 5: what I mean. Fucking one of the best, if not

684
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 5: the best, producing the world. Like you understand what I'm saying.

685
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 5: So I felt that it was necessary for me to

686
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 5: have that representation on my platform.

687
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: So you know what I'm saying.

688
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 5: I made it necessary for me to make my way

689
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: out there, being from the East Coast, you know what

690
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Just you know, connecting dots and linking up

691
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 5: with you know what I'm saying, the real dudes out

692
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 5: there on that coast and and and really giving them

693
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 5: that that proper you know what I'm saying, visualization.

694
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: So everybody else.

695
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 5: From the South, from the East, from Central you know

696
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, America, Europe, Africa, respect, you know what

697
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: I mean.

698
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 4: What you know the West Coast was about. You know

699
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

700
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 5: I had Nissey hustle, like you know what I mean

701
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: before you know what I mean, anybody you know you

702
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 5: know that that that that that really you know, took

703
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 5: it there like I got.

704
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: Exclusive shit.

705
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: I don't even drop with this yet and I still

706
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 4: got that ship in the top. You know what I'm saying,

707
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 4: because you know, it's.

708
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 5: Just something in a time that I felt that like

709
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 5: he was just like the knives are fucking you know

710
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.

711
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: The West Coast, you know what I'm saying.

712
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: And no lovem yo.

713
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 7: We love him in New York.

714
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 4: I don't think they're not yo yo.

715
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 5: Let you that nigga, Like you know what I'm saying,

716
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 5: God bless the death, but like you know what I'm saying,

717
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 5: like and it's just like he just reminded me so

718
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 5: much of Knives from the from from the West Coast.

719
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 4: It's just like yo, yo dog, your comme here, yo,

720
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: you know, let's do some shit, like you know.

721
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

722
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 5: But he was running around the East Coast like it

723
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 5: was nothing, you know what I'm saying. Like he was

724
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 5: outside for rip, you know what I'm saying. So it

725
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 5: was all love though, you know what I mean.

726
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he was definitely doing his thing. Now, when

727
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: did you decide to bring you off into the battle

728
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: rap to you are ill? When did you decide the

729
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: forum that well what the batter rack?

730
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, when did you decide to form your lead? Oh?

731
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 4: Like that's after, that's after, Like you know what I mean.

732
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 5: I always wanted to represent the art form of battle

733
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 5: rap because I felt that it was, like you know

734
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, essential for that representation of the art

735
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 5: form of lyricism to be fucking represented worldwide because that's

736
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 5: what we grew up loving. I consider that hip hop,

737
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, motherfucker's coming battling each other,

738
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 5: exchanging rhymes, going bar to bar and shit like that.

739
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: That's in me, you know what I mean.

740
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 5: From high school when we used to be in a

741
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: motherfucker lunch room, you know, period seven, we in a

742
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: lunch room. We got these two niggas going at it.

743
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 5: I bet you know what I'm saying. You know, the

744
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 5: whole school, they didn't even go to class. Everybody's in

745
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 5: the motherfucking lunch room just basically just like you want

746
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 5: to see.

747
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 4: What's going on.

748
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 5: So like that representation of like lyricism, I felt that

749
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 5: was necessary for me to represent on my platform, you

750
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So on the DVD, I always

751
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: made sure that it had its real estate on my DVD.

752
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 5: At the end of the DVD. If you go to

753
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 5: any Smack DVD, you go to that last chapter the

754
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 5: end of the DVD, you always had a classic battle.

755
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: That was my signature.

756
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: So now when you know World Star came out two

757
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, you know they

758
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 5: started really blowing up two thousand and seven, two thousand

759
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 5: and six, two thousand and seven, World Star came out

760
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 5: God Bless the Dead Q.

761
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 4: You know know, So what I'm saying, he really and

762
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 4: with you know what I'm saying, the content online he

763
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: was just basically he started his whole platform, taking all

764
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 4: our ship, taking all our ship, your dog, I'm lying.

765
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 7: That's why he had conversation.

766
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: Why that's why we have with them.

767
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: Mother, Like, yo, how this nigga eat you know, and

768
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 4: the nigga blew and took it off. He took our ship,

769
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: popped his ship off with our ship, and then taking

770
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 4: every everybody sending him ship. So he ain't had to

771
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 4: put no work in, you know what I'm saying.

772
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 5: All the content on World Star could have been the

773
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: biggest ship in the world if they would have produced

774
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 5: their own content. They never used their own content though,

775
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 5: so it was like it was this people he grabbing

776
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 5: clips or he grabbing clipps.

777
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: It was smart, it was genius.

778
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 5: It was genius actually, because he ain't had to put

779
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 5: the man hours the label, flying to the West coast,

780
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 5: flying to the south, getting up with these artists.

781
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 4: These artists don't pick up their phones. Bro, you gotta

782
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: call a million times before mother fucking pick up his phone.

783
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: That's why I stopped doing.

784
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: What the fuck I do that, you know what I'm saying,

785
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 4: because it took me too, yo.

786
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 5: Call I still to this day, don't even call it like, yo, Bro,

787
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 5: I don't call niggas more than two times.

788
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 7: How good I see you.

789
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: When I see you?

790
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: Real temperamental people.

791
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: Dog.

792
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 5: You know I'm not mad at them because you know

793
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: what I mean, Artists deal with a lot. But like

794
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, I'm not calling the nigga

795
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 5: phone a million. You know I'm calling you see me

796
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: calling the dogs. I'm a real nigga too. You understand

797
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. You're getting money. I'm getting money too,

798
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 5: but you swong my money down not picking up your phone.

799
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 5: You know what I'm sam saying.

800
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: So that's when you know.

801
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 4: World Star came out, and then the technology came.

802
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 5: Technology started catching up a time when motherfuckers can have

803
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 5: their own fucking cameras and ship like that. Fucking cameras

804
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: started being on your phone. Motherfuckers was filling pulling out

805
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: their phones, catching the artists at gas stations. Motherfuckers, Oh

806
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: ship yo go you go gz yo, GIZI what's up?

807
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 5: And they're fucking post that ship. The blocks don't give

808
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 5: a fuck. The blogs is taking that footage, putting it

809
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 5: on they websites just because it's gonna get hits and views.

810
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: They didn't care where the content was coming from. Because

811
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, they just want the clicks.

812
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 7: Took us.

813
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: Crazy.

814
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: It was just like, yeah, like.

815
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 5: Artist content started decreasing in value, it started decreasing in value.

816
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 4: Because it was more exclusive. It's no more exclusive more.

817
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 4: It's like, Yo, I'm I'm running around the country.

818
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 5: I'm flying the South, flying in Atlanta, flying to LA

819
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 5: flying the fucking Miami, flying to New York, creating a DVD.

820
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: It's taking me four months to fucking put out a

821
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 5: DVD when all the information is being already uploaded on

822
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 5: these fucks on websites, just because somebody is asking the

823
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: artists that they've seen at the fucking gas station with

824
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 5: their motherfucking camera phone and they fucking uploading that. All

825
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 5: the blogs and all the fucking websites is posting that

826
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 5: because they need content. It just came like, yo, fuck,

827
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 5: I'm running around chasing artists. For us, I have to

828
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 5: focus on the battles. The battles are something that can't

829
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 5: be recreated. To answer your question, that's why I started

830
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: the league. I'm like, yo, fuck it, I'm gonna just

831
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: do the shit that you know and create a new

832
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: form of hip hop entertainment, which is battle rap, which

833
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 5: is you know what I'm saying, the URL And I

834
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: created my league on that because I was just like, yo,

835
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna compete with everybody that you know what

836
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 5: I mean, May go see fifty cent because fifty cent

837
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 5: just got that fat Joe or whatever and they just

838
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 5: do the fucking cam on them.

839
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 4: And now that shit is all over the internet, Like

840
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: I can't compete with the world.

841
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, technology man at one point.

842
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 3: Technology at one point fucked the game up, but it

843
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: made it more broad and it brings the millions of

844
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 3: people like I wass thinking about a conversation that I

845
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: was having them with Eight's red partner from CMW The Child,

846
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: and he was telling me how Aight and Snoop used

847
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: to battle back in middle school.

848
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: Dad. Can you imagine if y'all had a camera during

849
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 1: that time.

850
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 5: Go go oh chatter Uncle Snoop, you know what I mean.

851
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 5: Snoop was one of the realist dudes that I came

852
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: across in this culture. And you know, I'm an uncle too.

853
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 5: They call me Uncle Smack. I'm in an uncle club,

854
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. There's only a couple of

855
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 5: uncles in the game.

856
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 7: Read Alert started it read Alert started, Uncle Red started.

857
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 4: Snoop, Uncle Ross.

858
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: Luke, Uncle Uncle Luke.

859
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 5: I considered Uncle Bunny, Uncle bun Deez an uncle to me,

860
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying, man, uncle smack Man.

861
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, it's a couple of uncles

862
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: to being an uncle club. You gotta you gotta be,

863
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 4: you gotta be, you gotta be cut.

864
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: From a different cloth.

865
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: Charlotte Mane, Charlie. I mean it's trying to be coming

866
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: into the uncle club too, Uncle Sean. But I don't know.

867
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 5: So hip hop flat what he do because the kid

868
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 5: is different. When it comes to the journalism, you know

869
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, and.

870
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

871
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: He he broke down doors. That is incredible. So like

872
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

873
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: I respect it, but like you know.

874
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 4: What I mean when it comes to street stop, Yeah, yeah,

875
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

876
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 7: HIPOs fifty smack hip Hop fifty is here amongst us.

877
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 7: Do you feel like battle rap is getting the appreciation

878
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 7: that it needed, specifically what you brought to it in

879
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 7: this hip hop fifty landscape, Because we got to be honest.

880
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 7: For a while, hip hop was fucked up and battle

881
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 7: rap brought a different eyes to it from all over

882
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 7: the world because it was hip hop and its purest form.

883
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 7: So we look at the cold Crush, we look at him.

884
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 7: They started out meeting in the park, rapping against her,

885
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 7: sometimes with no beat. You brought that back to a

886
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 7: large scale. But in this hip hop fifty landscape, where

887
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 7: they placing you in this where where they place some work,

888
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 7: where they placing you in this hip hop fifty, I.

889
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 4: Don't even know.

890
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even know.

891
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know where they placing me at.

892
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 7: You ain't been in, no celebrations, nothing, you know, Nah,

893
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 7: Like I don't, I don't know.

894
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 5: And you know it's crazy because I feel like I

895
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 5: put a lot up, you know what I'm saying, blusod,

896
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: sweat and tears into this culture.

897
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 4: I contribute my contribution to this ship is different. I

898
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: created a whole genre.

899
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 5: Industry, it's say industry inside the hip hop industry. You understand,

900
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 5: I created my own industry where motherfuckers could you know,

901
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 5: actually get paid to do something that they loved to

902
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 5: do that they wasn't getting paid to do before. Motherfuckers

903
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 5: used to just battle for credibility. You understand what I'm saying,

904
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 5: who had the ill bars or who had the illis

905
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 5: lyrics and lyrics or lyricism, or who had like you

906
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: know what I mean, who killed who? Motherfuckers used to

907
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 5: do that shit for credibility.

908
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: Now I created a whole lane where motherfuckers is getting

909
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: paid to do.

910
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 5: A whole new fucking you know what I mean art

911
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 5: form that exists withinside the hip hop culture.

912
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: You know, hip hop is based on competition.

913
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 7: I want to play you the thing for him bringing

914
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 7: him to the Gangst The Chronicles is important because when

915
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 7: we start talking about the Gangst the Rap Chronicles, one

916
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 7: of the you know, the offshoots of the name and

917
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 7: the concept of.

918
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: The show.

919
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 5: They was.

920
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 7: They was able to stand on stage in each other

921
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 7: face and talk about how they're gonna kill each other

922
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 7: ways they gonna kill each other, but not have to

923
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 7: kill each other face there. So, hey, let me ask

924
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 7: you something, do you think and the hate of you

925
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 7: and quick with y'all ship, do y'all think y'all would

926
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 7: have been able to stand in front of each other

927
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 7: and rap battle at one point?

928
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 6: No, because we was gang bangers. It wasn't about rapping.

929
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 6: It was about the neighborhood. It wasn't about rap music.

930
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 6: Rapping was rapping, that's.

931
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: All it was.

932
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 6: So it wasn't like I'm out here to try to

933
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 6: battle rap a nigga and get some money and embarrass

934
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 6: the nigga.

935
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: Our ship.

936
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 6: Our ship bled deep because of neighborhood times. That's what

937
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 6: it was about. So we couldn't we couldn't be battle

938
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 6: rappers because niggas be getting killed because first of all,

939
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 6: you ain't finna put no crypt blood in the same

940
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 6: place because the result is finna be fighting first ship.

941
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: Don't IM about to give a fuck about no rap

942
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: music music. Yeah, that's how it went.

943
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 6: Now, you know that's a different I guess it's a

944
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 6: different aspect if if that's what you on is just

945
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 6: trying to be an MC. But a lot of us

946
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 6: was from the neighborhood first. Even before a rap started,

947
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 6: we was game banging, you feel me? So, uh, that's

948
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 6: the difference of That's why a lot of our our

949
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 6: talk was was on records, because when you met a nigga, it.

950
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: Wasn't it was fighting here. It was dunk them first.

951
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Yeah, And I don't think the

952
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: thing that was interest in the boat.

953
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 6: The situation with any niggas over here who had beef

954
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 6: with each other, the niggas was chunking them when they

955
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 6: see each other. It wasn't no nigga, let's go on

956
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 6: stage and grab the mic and talk about each other. Nah, nigga,

957
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 6: I'm trying to bust your motherfucking face open.

958
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: So that's what it was all. A lot of a

959
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: lot of of of art, of artists who came.

960
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 6: From my era who dealt with gangs and all that

961
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 6: shit you could and been put in that settle. That segment.

962
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 6: Battle rapping is just that. That's for niggas who are

963
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 6: on BMC's you know. You know, I don't give a

964
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 6: fuck you from a block or whatever. You know, A

965
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 6: lot of that shit progressed down the road because when

966
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 6: I first started rapping, niggas had beef.

967
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: We wasn't thinking about.

968
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: You know.

969
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 6: That's why a lot of our our shit was spoken

970
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 6: on records, because that's where we was able to confront

971
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 6: a nigga. Because you see a nigga in the streets,

972
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 6: ain't no nigga, I'm finna drop this line on you

973
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 6: and say, nigga, homie, he's talking about you smoking me,

974
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 6: or you're finna kill me.

975
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 1: Real pistols is coming out, real fist is flying and

976
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: getting me.

977
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm just trying to picture some cheet cats

978
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: man begging that they man standing in front of each

979
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 3: other talking about each other, because you know, cats would

980
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: have got real disrespectful with it. Somebody would have got

981
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: disrespectful and disrespected somebody's neighborhood and it would have been

982
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: a melee before he can get a second bar out

983
00:45:59,760 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: the top.

984
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: About that, dude's here's some more. It had been twenty

985
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: thirty people on stage.

986
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 7: The first battle I seen on camera from your side

987
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 7: was I think the Bay. It was severe versus casual.

988
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 7: You remember that it was the first time I seen

989
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 7: two people from the West Coast in battle and.

990
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: Battle.

991
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 7: But as time went on, I'm like, now these thing

992
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 7: it's too real to be. Ain't nobody gonna be standing

993
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 7: and spitting each other face? They gonna get crazy with it,

994
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So that when we see

995
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 7: where the battle rap culture is now. These are sometimes

996
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 7: dudes who might have little rivalries in the sense of

997
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 7: they research on each other that they're gonna bring out

998
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 7: in the battle, But it don't really be no past

999
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 7: street history. Sometimes it is a little bit what makes

1000
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 7: for a battle battle. So it's entertaining back in y'all

1001
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 7: in your time.

1002
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 3: Eight.

1003
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 7: I know it wasn't possible for that shit to happen

1004
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 7: because again, when you see a nigga fuck music, you

1005
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. Music was how you got off

1006
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 7: on a nigga like I had, I had, we spent

1007
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 7: your block, you know what I'm saying. But it wasn't though,

1008
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 7: we're gonna spend your block, or we're gonna do this,

1009
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 7: we're gonna do that. Those is like this record, but

1010
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 7: more was like a response of the ship that actually

1011
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 7: was taking place for real, for real. Now you can't

1012
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 7: do that because nigga go to jail now, you know

1013
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 7: what I'm saying that, because you see the little dudes

1014
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,439
Speaker 7: who do the drill and all that shit, they using

1015
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 7: all that shit to lock they asks up now, you

1016
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So if hip hop was then

1017
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 7: what it is now, they probably been looking at y'all

1018
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 7: crazy like, oh for real, you such and such, you

1019
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. But the eyes wasn't on y'all

1020
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 7: when you when you made this record though, eight what

1021
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 7: was what was your and what was your intention? Just

1022
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 7: the ship on them, that hood, that that people as

1023
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 7: much as you can or like, what what was.

1024
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 6: Your I never disrespected anybody's neighborhood, even though I might

1025
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 6: add beef with niggas. I never brought neighborhoods into it

1026
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 6: because me being from a neighborhood, it's bigger than that shit. Man,

1027
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 6: So you know niggas do that shit nowadays. But if

1028
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 6: I beef with the nigga, I kept it to the nigga.

1029
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: You guys me.

1030
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 6: I tried to keep it on that level as far

1031
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 6: as hip hop was concerned, because at the end of

1032
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 6: the day, I still was a hip hop artist, you

1033
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 6: feel me. So I didn't want to necessarily go too

1034
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 6: deep on that aspect when it came to dissing the

1035
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 6: nigga if I had beef with him, because I really

1036
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 6: didn't beef with niggas. Everybody know whatever the aspect was,

1037
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 6: But basically the intention when you was writing a record

1038
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 6: or ditch record, it was basically just your feelings.

1039
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Of how you felt about a motherfucker.

1040
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: You give me the nigga you and I guess that

1041
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 6: no different if niggas wanted to express themselves if they could.

1042
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 6: You know, uh, you know, you got other football players.

1043
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 6: They get in practices, they fuck that nigga or we're

1044
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 6: gonna but they don't necessarily do it that deep. But

1045
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 6: you know they might be like, oh yeah number twelve

1046
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 6: till number twelve were coming for him this weekend, or

1047
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 6: or or tell motherfucker you know.

1048
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: So basically writing a disk record.

1049
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 6: And it necessarily wasn't too I think like in what

1050
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 6: y'all called the Battle Rap thame, niggas go deep to

1051
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 6: expose a motherfucker. You feel me, With writing a disc record,

1052
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, fuck a nigga. You know, don't necessarily

1053
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily know your mama or your financial status

1054
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 6: or where you nigga. All I know is like, nigga,

1055
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 6: I don't like you.

1056
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 3: So it's neop you didn't come, try to come with

1057
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 3: no extra fly metaphors and that ship because really.

1058
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: And then it really wasn't like I want.

1059
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say, uh, necessarily like battling niggas, we just

1060
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 6: busting rhymes, you know, I would call it more of

1061
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:24,959
Speaker 6: a cipher we had then, like a nigga, you ain't

1062
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 6: this or Nigga, you ain't that. We never did that.

1063
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 6: It was more like I'm missing I'm that, and I'm

1064
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 6: missing I'm that. And then he was more like, well,

1065
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 6: I'm from here, and I'm from here and I'm missing

1066
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 6: I'm that. So it's basically like a cipher we had. So,

1067
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 6: like I said, it's different from you know, battle rapping

1068
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 6: and writing a disc record. Some niggas do. Some niggas

1069
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 6: like nowadays, they go technical, Oh, nigga, I'm gonna search

1070
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 6: a niggas history. I'm gonna see what who the fuck with?

1071
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 6: I'm see if the nigga got all f's on his

1072
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,479
Speaker 6: report card and school, you know, all kind of shit

1073
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 6: niggas come out with. But me, basically I was just

1074
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 6: like Nigga, this Compton and Nigga fucked you.

1075
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: That's it, you know.

1076
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 6: I mean a battle rapper, I think battle rapping it's

1077
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 6: more to expose the individual and his skills and who

1078
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 6: the fuck he think he is as a motherfucking battle rapper.

1079
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 6: So Nigga, just like the Homie said when when he

1080
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 6: was on the show what's his name that we had,

1081
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 6: he said, nigga. Oh, And then the benefit of it

1082
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 6: is from what y'all tell me. I'm gonna tell you

1083
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 6: you're fin the battle this nigga next week. Right, But

1084
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 6: now I get to go do my homework on motherfucking

1085
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 6: I get to go dig into it. Like I said,

1086
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 6: you had motherfucking buck teeth in the third grade and

1087
00:51:56,719 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 6: shit like that. Nigga, your mama wore motherfucker get hand

1088
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,959
Speaker 6: me downs and y'all drove a pinto wagon the church

1089
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,959
Speaker 6: on Sundays and ship like you get to dig into

1090
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 6: a nigga's all kinds of shit. So, like I said,

1091
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 6: sometimes with niggas making records and ship it's just like, man,

1092
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 6: fuck you.

1093
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 7: Hey, it don't got deeper. Hey, it don't got so

1094
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 7: deep in battles, dude. Us the big screen in the back,

1095
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 7: dudes had on T shirts with a nigga mother baby

1096
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 7: mother getting fucked on it. That's the research they was able.

1097
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: To do it. That's a lot deep.

1098
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 4: But then I guess you have to.

1099
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: I guess you got to present that showmanship because you

1100
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: on stage. It's a show. Right.

1101
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 6: It's no different than when I get on stage and

1102
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 6: I got props. I might bring a lowrider bike out

1103
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 6: or play play my scenes from minutes to society in

1104
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 6: the background or whatever. So I guess as a battle rapper, Yeah,

1105
00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 6: you want to have your props.

1106
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: You want to have your.

1107
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 6: Motherfucking stage presence. So y'all want the big screen. I

1108
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 6: want to put a picture up of this nigga when

1109
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 6: he got socked in the mouth. I want to put

1110
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 6: up a big screen to the nigga when his baby

1111
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 6: mama was cheating on him, and shit she was at

1112
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 6: the movies with another nigga or some shit, all kinds

1113
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 6: of shit.

1114
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what you call chowmanship.

1115
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 6: Though, in that motherfucking realm of hip hop, you gotta

1116
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 6: ask chowmanship, especially if you want to be that top dog.

1117
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 6: And like you said, with all the props and the

1118
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 6: technology and all the research you can do that that

1119
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 6: could be critical for some niggas. He can basically destroy

1120
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 6: some niggas battle career. Yeah, I think we love Smack.

1121
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 6: I would love to have him here to answer this one.

1122
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 3: I saw, you know, the homely man from the baby Man,

1123
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 3: mister fab right, he dealves off into that battling world.

1124
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: He's actually really dope, Yes, but I saw I forget

1125
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 3: the call. He was battling man for Arsenal he was

1126
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 3: failing Arsenal. Arsenal got to talking about busting nuts in.

1127
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 7: His daughter's face, disrespectful, doing this and that, talking about

1128
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 7: his daughter.

1129
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 3: Fuck your sick daughter or slaughter our duct taper and

1130
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 3: throw that little sick something.

1131
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh my god, this dude,

1132
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: he the girl.

1133
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,760
Speaker 6: You set yourself up for that, right and battle rapping,

1134
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 6: you said, That's why I said, it would have been

1135
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 6: very difficult to from you know, from the days of

1136
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:35,479
Speaker 6: niggas dissing each other and neighborhoods being involved. That would

1137
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 6: have been a hard scene to control because the minute

1138
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 6: the niggas say, nigga, your hood, ain't this a nigga?

1139
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 6: Y'all some this, and then nigga, that's why we killed

1140
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 6: so and so, and nigga's over.

1141
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: That's what driller is doing now, little drill cats over

1142
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: there in Chicago. Yeah, I mean that's New York too.

1143
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's state way of you know, they call you out,

1144
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 6: say who got killed, nigga, We peeled sos and so,

1145
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 6: cap this package and then at the bus stopped screaming

1146
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 6: like a bitch and wootie. Yeah they do all that

1147
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 6: ship now. So that's why you have so much controversy

1148
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 6: and conflict. You give me as opposed to niggas who

1149
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 6: was battle rappers in my day, You give me you

1150
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 6: had an Ll cool J and coolmodgo at it and

1151
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 6: it was just you know, battle on wax. You know,

1152
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 6: Cube had his you know, Cube had his dealings with

1153
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 6: easy in them and and a lynch mob with above

1154
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 6: the Law and all them type of niggas.

1155
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: I had my.

1156
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 6: Battles with quick and and you know. But sometimes it

1157
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 6: was to the necessarity of well, we kept it on records,

1158
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 6: didn't You didn't You never saw uh LLL or cool

1159
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 6: Man with d tell my, let's get in the boxing

1160
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 6: ring and you know, scrap or let's bus guns at

1161
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 6: each other or something. We tried to keep it on

1162
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 6: the elements of hip hop at me, you know, you know,

1163
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 6: what was fresh and young, and we didn't want to

1164
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 6: jeopardize it to the fact because you know, back then

1165
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 6: they was banning niggas left and right and pulling niggas

1166
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 6: in doing all of that. So we tried to keep

1167
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 6: it to a level of not getting out of hand.

1168
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 6: But like you said, nowadays, man, it's just like I

1169
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 6: don't I couldn't be a I couldn't be in them

1170
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 6: shoes of a nigga standing in my face like you said, saying, nigga,

1171
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 6: your son is this or your your mama ain't ship Like,

1172
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna like this. Up fab is the homie nigga.

1173
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 6: They must fight work all the probably fired on you.

1174
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 6: It was all I was getting mad and I was thinking, man,

1175
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 6: oh my.

1176
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 7: Is that first contracts not to fight them?

1177
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1178
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 3: At first it was a little bit funny because you know,

1179
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 3: he was being light. But then when he started doing

1180
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 3: certain stuff and it was.

1181
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 6: Kind of like, man, so basically you have to you

1182
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 6: have to sign the contract saying that you're gonna take

1183
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 6: the humiliation.

1184
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 1: You gotta keep I would assume, man, and I would

1185
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: assume that to keep your cane. That's a hard pill

1186
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: to swallow. Stuff. Sign a contract.

1187
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 7: It's a rapper name good.

1188
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 6: You have hands on and you have to allow this

1189
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 6: motherfucker to say whatever they want to say. Now, look,

1190
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 6: basically put your basically put yourself out there for it.

1191
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 6: You know it's you better be hard as a motherfucker

1192
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: all out.

1193
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: That's all I know.

1194
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 6: If you want to get into that motherfucking realm of

1195
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 6: hip hop, if you know whatever music, whatever you want

1196
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 6: to call it.

1197
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: Uh, you better have some tough skin. Yeah, really you know.

1198
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 7: Still, it's a rapper name Goods who put in every contract.

1199
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 7: I don't give a fuck what you say about me.

1200
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 7: Don't say nothing about my daughter. But he put it

1201
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 7: in writing that the artist wasn't allowed to speak about

1202
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 7: his daughter. He said. The only reason why I'm saying

1203
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 7: that because when she get older, I don't want her

1204
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 7: to ever see her. Daddy stood there and had the

1205
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 7: nigga say your little baby daughter, suck my dick. He said, nah,

1206
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 7: we you can say whatever you want about me, fuck me,

1207
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 7: fuck everybody, but don't say nothing about my daughter. The

1208
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 7: one person that says something about his daughter he misinterpret.

1209
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 7: He smacked the shit out of him in the middle

1210
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 7: of the battle. This is a fact, so so you could,

1211
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 7: you could get some shit taken out. But it's Arsenal.

1212
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 7: You got QB, you got Bridge Rostein. It's certain rappers.

1213
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 7: They're clean. The thing, they are so disrespectful that you

1214
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 7: got an autistic child. If you got anything going on,

1215
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 7: they're gonna get there. Still, I gotta get up out

1216
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 7: of here, smack man. Uh yeah, we got like five Yeah,

1217
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 7: go into the go into the events.

1218
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: I got it, don't I got it? Right?

1219
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 7: Lad On, y'all all right.

1220
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 3: Smack you you missed it, Doug. We was talking about

1221
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: some of them, real disrespectful battle rappers. Let me see,

1222
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 3: is he back? But he got froze out again. Look

1223
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: like we got froze out again. We got some we

1224
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 3: got smacked back in the building, but he froze. He

1225
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 3: got some technical difficulties going on. Were gonna talk a

1226
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: little bit, Man about this lineup Man that Summer Madness.

1227
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: Man is going down. It is going down.

1228
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: Sunday, August twenty seventh, Man the Ultimate Rap League was

1229
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 3: touched down in Houston, Texas the whole Summer Madness thirteen,

1230
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 3: the pinnacle of being in the world of battle rap,

1231
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 3: featuring a full evening of electrifying showdowns from the most

1232
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: respected names from around the coach. You know they got

1233
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 3: some cats. I know you, ag, you ain't really familiar

1234
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 3: with the battle rap, saying you you you heavy into it?

1235
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: I see him. I love battle rap. On I've never

1236
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: been into it, so I've never been into it.

1237
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah you, but I'm gona have to take you to

1238
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: some events. Look, well, we was talking about smacking you

1239
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 3: you good now? He got technically he got you got

1240
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: technical difficulties going on. They got a good line up, man,

1241
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 3: They got Tay Rock versus ad t Top versus John

1242
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 3: John to Don DNA versus Jerry West, Fine Fines versus

1243
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 3: Shotgun Sugar.

1244
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: And New Jersey Twerk versus howld have done? These cats

1245
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: got some color names.

1246
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 3: Man.

1247
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have no disrespect, but I've never gotten into

1248
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 6: the you know, I've I've heard, I've seen a couple

1249
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 6: as far as the Internet is concerned, when they come across,

1250
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 6: But I never got into the battle rap thing.

1251
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know what it is, man, It's like

1252
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: it's definitely acquired taste. It's definitely one of those acquired tastes.

1253
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: Man, for you to be heavy into it, what is

1254
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: the What is what I want to say is.

1255
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 6: What is that angle of performing hip hop or whatever?

1256
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 6: Like is the intention to ever make a record or

1257
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 6: is it just to be a disrespectful battle rapper?

1258
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 3: I think you know what I think because of what

1259
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 3: Smack is done with the culture now with Survive, But lifting,

1260
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 3: to me, it's just another branch of the hip hop tree.

1261
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know, we got

1262
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 3: gangster rap. Now you got trio. You even got the

1263
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 3: country western you know, the country dudes doing the rap now,

1264
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: you know what I mean over country music.

1265
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: I look at it just like that.

1266
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: Look at it more as a competitive sport now, like

1267
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 3: just like how gaming it is now. And it's one

1268
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 3: of them things. Man. I definitely like, man, the older

1269
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: stuff a little bit better because it was a little

1270
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: less disrespectful. You know, they got in people's ass, but

1271
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 3: there was certain lines you didn't cross. Like if you

1272
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: heard about a dude's mama just passed away, you was

1273
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 3: gonna leave that alone. You feel what I'm saying.

1274
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't this.

1275
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: You know, you had some dudes that got disrespectful though,

1276
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 3: but they kept it to a limit when you agree,

1277
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: be they kept it to limit. Now, like with that

1278
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 3: cat man, like with the arsenal cat and stuff, Man,

1279
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 3: I would probably whoop his ass.

1280
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, I would never you know, So

1281
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: it's an acquired taste for sure.

1282
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 3: Smack you good now your yacky heavy Yeah for sure,

1283
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 3: we can hear you man before we get to that.

1284
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, pardon for the technical difficulties.

1285
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: Man, It's all good. It happened, man, But but that's

1286
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 1: what we do. We go get through it. You know

1287
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We get through.

1288
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: You know, I that modems and all type of ship.

1289
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 4: This make sure I come back to this.

1290
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 3: Interview, man, sure, Man, And I appreciate it, Bro, And

1291
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: I appreciate it because you know, it ain't every day man,

1292
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 3: people get to talk to you.

1293
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: So I really appreciate it. Man.

1294
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: One of the things we talked about, man with some

1295
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 3: of the disrespect because see, I'm a battle Rat fan eight.

1296
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say, you.

1297
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 3: Know, he's not too familiar with the sport, you know

1298
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: what I mean, He's not too familiar with it, right,

1299
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 3: So I could be kind of like, you know, letting

1300
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 3: him know what's going on with it.

1301
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: One of the things we talked about was back in

1302
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: the day, wasn't it disrespectful?

1303
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: People would get in your ass, But they kind of

1304
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 3: left some stuff to you know, they just left some

1305
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 3: stuff to the imagination. They had a class about it,

1306
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Now you got cancers, don't

1307
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: give a fuck what they say to somebody.

1308
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: Man.

1309
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 3: I looked at that what was his name, Briant Arsenal.

1310
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: I looked at Arsenal battle somebody's daughter. He was talking

1311
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 3: about the dudes daughter or whatever like that. I said, Man,

1312
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 3: how to probably knocked this dude out.

1313
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you know, you gotta have a tough skin

1314
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 5: to be in this culture. You know what I'm saying,

1315
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 5: there's no rules. You know, you got some dudes that

1316
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 5: respect certain ethnics in certain codes. Then you got some

1317
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 5: dudes that just don't give a fucking just gonna just

1318
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 5: do that. Like you know what I'm saying, Arsenal, Arsenals,

1319
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 5: he's known, his name is missed, disrespectful, he gonna disrespect

1320
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 5: Andy and everything going. I've done seen people speak about

1321
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 5: the dead, you know what I'm saying.

1322
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 4: I've seen people talk.

1323
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 5: About you know what I'm saying baby moms and all

1324
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 5: types of shit, Like you know what I'm saying.

1325
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 4: That's why, like, you gotta have a tough skin to

1326
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 4: be in this culture.

1327
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 5: And you know what I'm saying, your your your your

1328
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: resume or your rapport, your your your your your your

1329
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 5: your life gotta be you know what I.

1330
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 4: Mean, squeaky clean.

1331
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 5: Because if anything, you got any dirt on your name

1332
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 5: or any dirt that's associated with you, motherfucker's is gonna

1333
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 5: find that ship and try to expose it. I mean,

1334
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 5: that's a part of the culture. You know what I mean,

1335
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 5: that's part of the coach, that's part of this ship.

1336
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1337
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 1: Well, it's just coming out for sure.

1338
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1339
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: So let's talk about man. Let's talk about summer.

1340
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 7: Man.

1341
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 3: That's thirteen. Man, you gotta wind up on the man.

1342
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 3: Who you looking at? Who you're looking to see the moves?

1343
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 3: Who are you looking forward to see over there?

1344
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 4: Every everybody, every battle I put everything together. I want

1345
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 4: to to I put this card. I want to see

1346
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 4: every battle on his card.

1347
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 1: Man. So you personally, you said, what So you personally

1348
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: put this card together?

1349
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1350
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, with the assistance of my team and ship like that.

1351
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: But like you know, I co signed and check off

1352
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 4: on everything. You understand what I'm saying. So, like you

1353
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 4: know what I mean, this car right here.

1354
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 5: I want to see the outcome of every battle because

1355
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 5: I feel like everything, every battle on this car is competitive.

1356
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 3: You know. Sure, one of the names on there, it's

1357
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: because a lot of legends on there, man, But one

1358
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: name in particular, Man.

1359
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: How would have done? How long has How would have Done?

1360
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: Been around? Man forever? You know what I mean?

1361
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 5: He was He's one of the like you know what

1362
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 5: I mean, He was another on Smack DVD. It's certain

1363
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 5: classes of the ship though, you know what I'm saying.

1364
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,919
Speaker 5: You got the Godfathers of the Grandfathers of the coaching.

1365
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 4: Which was you know what I'm saying.

1366
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 5: You know, the Murder Moves of course, the Loaded Lucks,

1367
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 5: J Mills, the party Artis, the t Rex's, the the

1368
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 5: mid Midwest Miles, you got X factor, you got like

1369
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 5: these dudes was on Smack DVD map Hot for Eye

1370
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 5: inside Coloman. You know what I'm saying, These are the

1371
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 5: dudes that's in the coaching that was on the Smack EVD.

1372
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 5: So they considered like the.

1373
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 4: The Godfathers or the grand the Granddaddy's other ship.

1374
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 5: And then you got the U R L class you

1375
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 5: know what i mean, which you know, consists of like

1376
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, the Hollow, the Dons, the

1377
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 5: Tate Rocks, the you know, you know everybody else, Calicos,

1378
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 5: the you know then you know J Mills, I mean

1379
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 5: not J Mills, but like you know, I mean the

1380
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 5: Geechee Gottis, the Rumnittis, the New Jersey Torch, the you

1381
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, those are like the newer generations

1382
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 5: of like you know what I'm saying, it's coaching.

1383
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: So you know you mentioned the main man that's a

1384
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: friend of our show man that's extent.

1385
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 3: His cousin's over here with me right now. Man gott

1386
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 3: you man, that kid really came in and made the impact.

1387
01:06:54,320 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 4: Man Nutty blocked, Nutty Gang, I heard you over. Yeah,

1388
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 4: I was in a hood.

1389
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

1390
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 4: You know, I had to come tap in and see

1391
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 4: what the fuck was going on. You know what I mean.

1392
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: I had to see if someone was certified.

1393
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 4: He showed me he was certified.

1394
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 5: The whole hook came out, you know what I'm saying,

1395
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 5: and it just you know, gave me that hospitality, like

1396
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, made me feel I'm good

1397
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:20,080
Speaker 5: over there anytime I pull up. You know what I'm saying,

1398
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 5: And you know what I mean, it's vice versa on

1399
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 5: my side.

1400
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 4: Way, you know what I'm saying. He come, You know

1401
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. In New York, but like you know

1402
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Nah, I saw love.

1403
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:31,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, geeky, you know

1404
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

1405
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 5: One of the best you know what I'm saying in

1406
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 5: the culture right now, hands down, hands down, I speaking

1407
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 5: that real.

1408
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, hood shit that you know, real.

1409
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: Street dudes appreciate.

1410
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 5: So you know what I'm saying, He's definitely, you know

1411
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, one of my favorites right now. You

1412
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 5: know what I mean, I got a lot, I got

1413
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 5: a great deal of respect, and I'll rock with him

1414
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 5: and shit, you know what I mean.

1415
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: Well, you truly a hustler man, And this is gonna

1416
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 3: be on the Caffeine APIs everybody we would have a link.

1417
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 3: We gonna make sure to put a link in the

1418
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 3: description man, so they can go to caffeine Man to

1419
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 3: sign up.

1420
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: Man. How did you get plugged up? Man?

1421
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 3: Because I heard a lot of it. Man, You just

1422
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 3: like the world's greatest ustler man. Looked up Man, you

1423
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 3: signed the big deals man with Caffeine.

1424
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: That's what I said. Man, he out there getting some paper.

1425
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to us.

1426
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

1427
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 5: Champagne shopping, champagne poppy. You know what I'm saying, Drake,

1428
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 5: You know you know what I mean. He's the liaison

1429
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 5: between the connection between me and caffeine.

1430
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1431
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 5: You know, I got a good relationship with you know

1432
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 5: what I'm saying the whole over Yon Drake himself, and

1433
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

1434
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 4: We always used to trap it up. And you know

1435
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 4: what I mean.

1436
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 5: He's like such a big you know what I'm saying,

1437
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 5: battle rap fan and a fan of Smack first and foremost,

1438
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 5: and a fan of the U r L TV movement,

1439
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 5: and you know what I mean, It's just like every

1440
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 5: time we used to see each other, He's like your snack, Yo.

1441
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 4: I promise you, yo, We're gonna do something. Man, We're

1442
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 4: gonna do something.

1443
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put a player for us together so we

1444
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 5: can get some money together. I just wanted, basically, you

1445
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, you know, show my love and

1446
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 5: appreciation of your contributions, of what you brought to this culture,

1447
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 5: and I just want to just get some money with you.

1448
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put a play together for you, and you

1449
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, We're gonna, We're gonna make something happen.

1450
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:14,560
Speaker 4: I got you, you know what I'm saying. And you know,

1451
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 4: you know he we always used to say that shit.

1452
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 4: He always used to say that shit. You know what

1453
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 4: I mean.

1454
01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 5: He popped up to one of my events like, Yo,

1455
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 5: I have to come here and smack you. I'm telling

1456
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 5: you we're gonna do saying, and then he really called

1457
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 5: me like yo, smack yo.

1458
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 4: I got it, Yo. This is what we're doing.

1459
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 5: This, this, this, that and the third you know what

1460
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 5: I'm saying. You know, so he put that, you know

1461
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, plug together and you know what I'm saying.

1462
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 5: He threw me a layup and I ain't never looked back.

1463
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1464
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 4: I just took the ball and ran with it. You

1465
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 4: feel what I'm saying.

1466
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying.

1467
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know what I mean.

1468
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 5: That's how we linked with caffeine and shit, you know

1469
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 5: what I mean. We did the caffeine thing. You know

1470
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 5: what I mean, shot the caffeine. You know, I just

1471
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 5: gave the world the opportunity, like you know what I'm saying, saying,

1472
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 5: to have access. That was our vision, Like you know

1473
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Because he used to like Drake is

1474
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 5: such a fan.

1475
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 4: He used to be on the phone for like, you

1476
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:10,720
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I was just going back and

1477
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 4: forth and shit. He's like, Yo, I've seen that event.

1478
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 5: I like this, but this kind of like it took

1479
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,959
Speaker 5: me so long to log in and I had troubles,

1480
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 5: like you know what i mean, logging and I can't

1481
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 5: see this shit for.

1482
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: Like a certain amount of time, and then it came on.

1483
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: It's good.

1484
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 4: We got to fix all that.

1485
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 5: So he just felt like, you know what I'm saying,

1486
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 5: He wanted to give you know what I mean, a culture,

1487
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 5: like you know what I'm saying, a better experience when

1488
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 5: it came to having access to the content, you know

1489
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So that was his angle with his

1490
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 5: just like damn, how can I make this shit bigger?

1491
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 5: And you know what i mean, We're just like, yo,

1492
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 5: damn yo. You know it would be dope.

1493
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 4: Fuck the pay per view, Like you know what I'm

1494
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 4: saying that the world actually see this shit for free,

1495
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 4: but you still get your bread, you know what I'm say.

1496
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, let's try to do something like that.

1497
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 5: So he created an opportunity for us to link up

1498
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 5: with you know what I mean, a streaming company as Caffeine.

1499
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 5: They was just getting off the ground. They needed the content,

1500
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 5: they needed the you know what I'm saying to use

1501
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 5: a you know what I mean.

1502
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 4: Base and shit like that.

1503
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: So we had everybody signed up to Caffeine to have

1504
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 5: access to the content, and you know what I'm saying,

1505
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 5: it was a perfect marriage and shit for you know

1506
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 5: what I'm saying the time and shit like you know

1507
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 5: what I mean.

1508
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: So, you know what I mean.

1509
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: It's very dope, man, And I'm a fan of that movement. Man.

1510
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: I'm actually got some plays on working man, because I

1511
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 3: do believe that you can make a lot of money

1512
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 3: off of content, man, but get it to the people

1513
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 3: for free. Yeah, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. And

1514
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 3: that's one of the good things that technology has brought

1515
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 3: to the table.

1516
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 6: You know.

1517
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1518
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:37,720
Speaker 5: And we did it in the middle of the pandemic

1519
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 5: when everybody was stuck in the motherfucking house, you understand.

1520
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 5: So it was like, you know what I mean, it

1521
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 5: just made perfect sense, you know what I mean. It's like, Yo,

1522
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 5: we're gonna just do this shit real quick, you know

1523
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,440
Speaker 5: what I mean. Everybody's tuned in, everybody's trapped.

1524
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 4: In the house, like you know what I Man, let's

1525
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 4: put on that ship.

1526
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 1: You're now. One of the questions I had, man, because

1527
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: I heard you wasn't hosting it this year.

1528
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 4: Nah, I'm hosting, you know what I mean.

1529
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 5: I was just like, you know, I put out a

1530
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 5: thread the other day just like like yo, you know

1531
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 5: what I mean, Like, yo, man, you know I'm fifteen years.

1532
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 1: Into this shit.

1533
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 4: Man, this is something man that's thirteen man, Like you

1534
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1535
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm like fifteen years into this shit. So

1536
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 5: I'm just like yo, man, Yo, this card is so crazy,

1537
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,520
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and so competitive.

1538
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 4: I just want to enjoy it. As from a fan's perspective.

1539
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying.

1540
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 5: I want to enjoy your shit, just like I'm a fan.

1541
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 5: First niggas think yo smack just this, that and the third,

1542
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 5: But nah, I really love this shit man. You understand

1543
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So it's like I want to just chill,

1544
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,800
Speaker 5: sip on my drink and just watch, you know what

1545
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 5: I mean, everybody get busy, you.

1546
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 4: Know what I mean, instead of like, you know what

1547
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 4: I mean. So I was just like, yo, man, I'm

1548
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 4: about to do something with you know what I'm saying.

1549
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 5: I might have you know what I mean, just you know,

1550
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 5: just different people host so I might just get a

1551
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 5: co host or whatever, just to turn up, just to

1552
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, so I could just sit

1553
01:12:59,240 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 5: back and.

1554
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 4: Just enjoy this ship.

1555
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: Man. You know, sometimes.

1556
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 3: With it, huh yeah, sometimes you just want to watch

1557
01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,599
Speaker 3: your son play because you know me and they both.

1558
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 4: You know, my perspective in my view is the best

1559
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 4: view in our house though, because I'm right there in

1560
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 4: front of center.

1561
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 5: But I just want to just get a different you

1562
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, point of view and ship like that.

1563
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 5: I want to see how I feel it, you know

1564
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 5: what I mean. Sit down, man, I've been standing on

1565
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 5: my feet. You know what I'm saying for years.

1566
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm say.

1567
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1568
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 5: You know them batteries and the eventually longest longest hit man.

1569
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 5: You know, I talking about nine hours standing on your feet.

1570
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 4: You know what I mean. Just chilling, you know what

1571
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 4: I mean. And it's just like yo, I just want

1572
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 4: to be chilling. I just want to sit back and.

1573
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: Just enjoy this shit sometimes, man, you know, or yeah,

1574
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: for sure, for sure, man, I'm gonna asking this question.

1575
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 1: I know I ain't gonna get no answer from you.

1576
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 1: Any predictions.

1577
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 4: Of of of of summer madness?

1578
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course madness. Yeah, any predictions. Oh man, no,

1579
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't. You know, you know, I don't got no.

1580
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 5: Like I put the car together to figure the ship out, man,

1581
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 5: Like this is what I do it Like I really.

1582
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: Like battle with like you know what I mean.

1583
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 4: I put the car together because I don't know who

1584
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 4: the fuck will win these battles, you know.

1585
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 5: What I'm saying.

1586
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't know who's gonna win.

1587
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:30,400
Speaker 5: So it's like I feel like everybody have a chance

1588
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 5: to win. That's why that's how I picked the card,

1589
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 5: because it's so competitive. You got Jerry West versus DNA.

1590
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 5: You got t T, you got t Top against you

1591
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, John Johna done like anybody could

1592
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 5: take it.

1593
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:45,600
Speaker 4: You got shotguns, Shigar against motherfucking you know what I'm saying, Fans.

1594
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: Against fans.

1595
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like that that that's that's crazy.

1596
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 4: You gotta hollow the down versus New Jersey.

1597
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,799
Speaker 1: Twurk's crazy.

1598
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 4: You got DNA versus Jerry West.

1599
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 3: It's gonna be crazy. It's a crazy car. Like it's

1600
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 3: a crazy car, and people and.

1601
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 5: People and people are trying to, like, you know, criticize

1602
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 5: the card, saying your shit is Mikia.

1603
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 4: Yo, Bro, I don't do the name shit no more

1604
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 4: like I've been off the name shit. I want people

1605
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 4: that get busy.

1606
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 5: I want people that's gonna go and you know what

1607
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 5: I'm saying, give one hundred and ten percent when they

1608
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 5: step in that motherfucking stage and really turn up and

1609
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 5: everybody that's battling each other is gonna basically, you know

1610
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, deliver the best performance. Like that's how

1611
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 5: I put the car together. I ain't give a fuck

1612
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 5: about getting who got the biggest profile of that name

1613
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 5: or that nah, like nah, these dudes basically are the

1614
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 5: most consistent in the game right now for my person

1615
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 5: from my point of view.

1616
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying wrong, You're keeping it wrong,

1617
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 1: you know.

1618
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 4: And I guarantee you, and I guarantee you.

1619
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that this is gonna be like the

1620
01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 1: best card of the year. Guy.

1621
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying content wise?

1622
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 5: You know what I mean when it comes to entertainment,

1623
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 5: when it comes to the competitiveness of the culture, I

1624
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 5: guarantee you.

1625
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 4: This ship, Like you know what I'm saying be You

1626
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 4: know what I mean that that that that ship. I'm

1627
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 4: the god of this ship. I'm the god of this ship.

1628
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm the god of this ship.

1629
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 4: Let's talk, I'm the god of this ship.

1630
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: So so so so so.

1631
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 5: You know, I love when people try to like question

1632
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 5: me and and try to like, we're gonna see what

1633
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 5: it's hitting for we are.

1634
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 4: This is what I do.

1635
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: You understand.

1636
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 4: I'm talk You know I'm gonna talk. You're I'm gonna

1637
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 4: talking respectfully, like you know what I'm saying.

1638
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 5: And you know, at the end of the day, when

1639
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 5: it's all sudding down, i'mna just look and like, yeah,

1640
01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 5: I told y'all, so you know what I'm saying.

1641
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 4: Like I told y'all, you know what I mean.

1642
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 5: And I want to see anybody else that's doing anything

1643
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 5: else in the motherfucking culture live up to what the

1644
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 5: fuck this ship is gonna live up to.

1645
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: Hence done. Like I said, Man, you've done it twice. Man.

1646
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: You know, look, let me tell you something before we

1647
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 1: get out of here. Man, it is very hard.

1648
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 3: To pull the needle out the haystack. You feel what

1649
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying, To think of that one dope idea that's

1650
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: life changing. I've had the chance to do it twice

1651
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 3: in my life. You know big, you know, to think

1652
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 3: of something and it's really flourished from me, right, it's

1653
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: hard to think of one.

1654
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 1: You've done it.

1655
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,799
Speaker 3: You've done it multiple times, and you've created an industry.

1656
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: Bro Like, honestly, without you, I probably you talk about

1657
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 3: I inspired you. I wouldn't be doing what I was

1658
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: doing without you did the first.

1659
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I was the first,

1660
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 5: Like Nigga, I was the first podcast to you know,

1661
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 5: all these podcasts running around, you know what I mean,

1662
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 5: and they ain't not even doing Like I'm not even

1663
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 5: gonna I'm not gonna talk too much because I don't

1664
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 5: want to give them too much game. But like you

1665
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, at the end of the day,

1666
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 5: now they're not even doing it how they need to

1667
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 5: be doing it. But like you know what I'm saying.

1668
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 5: You know, you know, it's easy to set up a

1669
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 5: microphone and just talk to somebody and just talk shit

1670
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 5: and shit like that. But like at the end of

1671
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 5: the day, man, you know, I could come back anytime

1672
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 5: and take and reign supreme.

1673
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: Man, come back on me.

1674
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1675
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,440
Speaker 5: I can come back anytime I want and reign supreme

1676
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 5: because I'm connected to a different and higher source, a

1677
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 5: higher power and the ship.

1678
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. Like I got the I got

1679
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 4: the realist and the biggest dudes like you know what

1680
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 4: I mean behind me, Like you know what I mean.

1681
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 4: All the dudes that it's over here came up looking

1682
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 4: and watching me. You feel me.

1683
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 5: So it's like, you know, anytime I want to want

1684
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 5: one change, I could just press the button. And you

1685
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 5: know that's just the blessings and the gift that I

1686
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 5: have for the from the contributions that you know what

1687
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 5: I'm saying, I gave to this ship.

1688
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 4: And you know what, dude that's in position, that's real respected.

1689
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: They respected. You know what it is too, Man.

1690
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 3: I can tell that everything you do, you come in

1691
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 3: to it with the intended just doing the dopest thing possible.

1692
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you what the problem is today with

1693
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 3: just in general, with content and everything else.

1694
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,160
Speaker 1: Everybody is looking to make a bag. Everybody's looking to

1695
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: make a bag. Man. But I appreciate you man coming

1696
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: to sit down with us.

1697
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 4: Man, You'll remember, definitely, Man, I had a good time.

1698
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 4: I had a good time.

1699
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 3: Man.

1700
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure nobody like.

1701
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Yo, man, when when when

1702
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 5: you I'm ready?

1703
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: When you ready man?

1704
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 3: Or you know you know what the next time, man,

1705
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 3: the next time I want you to be sitting out

1706
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 3: here with us. When the next time you be on

1707
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: the coast.

1708
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 5: A ship man, I don't even know. I don't even

1709
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 5: got no no nothing on my itiner rate right now

1710
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 5: for l A or CALLI. You know what I'm saying

1711
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 5: right now? But ship we we we we can make

1712
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 5: it something.

1713
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1714
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 3: You know, me and me and eight will be in

1715
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 3: New York the first of the year. We're gonna go

1716
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 3: make our little run out. There's time.

1717
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: We got to go to New York. You know what

1718
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean. We can run out there.

1719
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 4: Dog we go bump in to you.

1720
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1721
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 5: Nah, Just keep the lines open, you know what I'm saying.

1722
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna get your information, You're gonna take.

1723
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 4: Minds, and then we're gonna definitely keep the lines of

1724
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 4: communications open, you know what I mean, and connect.

1725
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1726
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 4: If you ain't doing nothing on the twenty seven, come

1727
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,680
Speaker 4: come pull up, man, you.

1728
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: Gotta come pull up like I might just do that.

1729
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 5: I might, you know what you know I'm gonna roll out,

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Speaker 5: you know, yo, listen, I'm rolling out the red carpet.

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Speaker 4: You know we got to keep it. You know, we

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Speaker 4: got the key to the city for the weekend. You

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I got, I got, I got,

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Speaker 4: I got a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Ship going off for the whole weekend.

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Speaker 5: Come come come through and that you you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's that's that's you know, be the you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean, the official start of an introduction.

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Speaker 4: Of like you know what I'm saying for real, like yo,

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Speaker 4: come come pull up.

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Speaker 1: For sure for sure.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: So that concludes this episode.

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Speaker 3: But before we go, I need you guys to go

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Speaker 3: in that description going to the description down there, man,

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Speaker 3: because some of y'all out there, I wonder about some

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Speaker 3: of y'all.

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Speaker 1: Love y'all, but I wonder go down there and hit

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Speaker 1: that caffeineling.

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Speaker 3: So on August twenty seven, when it jumps off, you

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Speaker 3: don't miss out because it's gonna be something to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Trust murder out So man is thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Don't miss history. Be a part of it. You're let's

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Speaker 4: get it.

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 3: On that note, were out of here. Well, that concludes

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Speaker 3: another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure

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Speaker 3: to download the iHeart app and subscribe to the Gangst

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Speaker 3: the Chronicles podcast. For Apple users, find a purple mica

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Speaker 3: on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show,

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Speaker 3: leave a common and rating. Executive producers for the Games

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Speaker 3: to Chronicles Podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron m c a Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Our visual media director is Brian Whyatt, and our audio

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Speaker 3: editors tell It Hayes. The Gainst Chronicles is a production

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