1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Well, hey everybody, it's me Rosie O'Donnell. How are you. 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good boy. It's been one hell of 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: a week. Huh. You know the thing about podcasts is 4 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: they're not live, so we record them as close to 5 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: the drop date as we can. But things happen in 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: the world, and you know, today I think what I'm 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: still thinking of and what has rocked my soul, and 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: once again, you know, open the Columbine wound that happened 9 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: to all of us with it being pretty much the 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: first huge school shooting that we all remember April twentieth, 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, and that brings me back to this 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: latest school shooting in Nashville, where three children and three 13 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: adults were killed, and you know, it overwhelms me. I 14 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: don't understand how this keeps happening in our country and 15 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: how senators and congress people feel like it's okay to 16 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: say on the news the day after this horror that 17 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: nothing can be done. How is that possible? Nothing can 18 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: be done? I'm sick of hearing it, and I think 19 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: a vast majority of Americans are too. We need to 20 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: ban assault weapons, and I wrote that on my TikTok 21 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: and people wrote in Oh my sickon Amendment right this, Well, 22 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: let's amend the amendment. Then. I think that automatic weapons, 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: assault rifles weapons of war. Sorry, civilians cannot have them. 24 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: And that's the point where we're at, you know. I 25 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: remember talking to Rory Kennedy last week and her telling 26 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 1: me that the top scientists in the world say we 27 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: could have six maybe ten years before it's not fixable 28 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 1: what we've done to the climate. And we're in an 29 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: emergency and not fixable, right, what's going to happen? I mean, 30 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: you can't just pretend you don't see these things. Willful 31 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: blindness is going to end up ruining the earth, you know. 32 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: And we have willful blindness in this country about assault weapons. 33 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: And when we had an assault weapon ban, there were 34 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: much less school shootings. You know, the statistics, everybody can 35 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: look them up. We've known them for too long. You know. 36 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: You got to stand up and force our representatives to 37 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: speak for the people. You can't love guns more than 38 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: you love kids. Really sad, really hard, and it's really 39 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: hard to keep fighting the same fight. I remember when 40 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: I spoke out after Columbine to Tom Selleck, who then 41 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: was a representative of the NRA. You know, it was 42 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,119 Speaker 1: a big controversy. How could you say that? How could 43 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: we not have said it? Look, what's happened since a 44 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: thousand school shootings, since Columbine in America. It's crazy, it's crazy, 45 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: and we can't live this way, and we have to 46 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: stand up and say it. You know, I've been trying 47 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: not to listen to the news because what's going on 48 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: in Israel and the streets and them fighting against net 49 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: and Yahoo, and in France the fights and the protests 50 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: against Macron who wants to change the retirement age by 51 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: two years. And you know, I saw some photos and 52 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: video of people eating in a French bistro and outside 53 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: trash cans, on fire road blockades, people eating, just you know, 54 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: what's happened to our world? Very very sad. Really is 55 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: well now that I brought the show to a complete 56 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: halt and nobody wants to listen. We have a great 57 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: guest today, we really do. And we talk a little 58 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: bit about mental health. We talk a little bit about Columbine, 59 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: which you know started me on my journey and medication 60 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: of medication of my mental health issues, and I am 61 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: so incredibly grateful. But the guest is Jennifer Lewis. Jennifer Lewis, 62 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: who is one of the most talented people I have 63 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: ever met in my life. I saw her in nineteen 64 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: ninety four in her one woman show, The Diva Is Dismissed, 65 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,119 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm in love with her. I'm 66 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: in love with her. I met her then, but before then, 67 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: before then, I knew who she was because I saw 68 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: Bette Midler and concerts so many times that I could 69 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: recognize her backup singers when they weren't with her, you know, 70 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a whole different gig. You know. I 71 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: was doing a game show and well we tell the 72 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: story in it. But she's here today, and she has 73 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: written two books, The Mother of Black Hollywood and Walking 74 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: in My Joy in the Streets. You know, she's amazing, 75 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: and I love her philosophy of life. I love her 76 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: perspective of the world. I love her ability to have 77 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: self insight, and and I love the way she carries herself. 78 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: I really do. Years and years ago, maybe thirty years ago, 79 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: we all were in Laguna to see Bette Midler and 80 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: Jennifer was performing with Bet I believe at that time, 81 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: and she was there with Mark Shaman and me and 82 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of people or I saw them right after 83 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: they came back, and they were all singing the song 84 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: that Jennifer made up when she was in Laguna because 85 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: she got there and she was the only black person 86 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: that she saw in the whole entire town. So she 87 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: made up this song that goes something like this, Hey 88 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: white folks, I'm sorry I could not get here sooner. 89 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 1: I'm the only black girl in Lagoonah, And we would 90 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: sing it over and over and over. So this interview 91 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: has no beginning because we just jump in right. She 92 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: sees me on the FaceTime thing and I see her 93 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: and we're going, you know, we start talking the words 94 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: to hey white girl, I'm sorry I could not get 95 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: here sooner, but we never explain what it is. So 96 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: there is a little explanation about your little song. You're 97 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: gonna hear us do a little staccato version of Anyway, 98 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: she's here and we're talking about everything, and I just 99 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: adore her, and I know that you will too. So 100 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: fair warning, there's a lot of cursing in this episode 101 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: because when she and I sit around, that's what we do. 102 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: So you might not want to listen at work. Or 103 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: else put your headphones on. I mean, it's not like 104 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: so much cursing that you're watching, you know, like a 105 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: Tarantino film, But there's enough cur thing that you could 106 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: get in trouble by someone saying, what the fuck are 107 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: you listening to? You know what I'm saying. This is 108 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: Arnward with Rosie O'Donnell, and this is episode three. Oh honey, 109 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: hi baby, how are you? Oh girl? Some of shit 110 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: is going on? What's going down? And what's going down? 111 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you all the good shit? All right? Hey, 112 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: why folks, I'm sorry, bitches, I could not be Assuna. 113 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: You're the only black girl in Laguna. Holy mother bucker. 114 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: Oh my, how long ago was that, Jennifer Lewis? That 115 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: must have been a good thirty years ago. It had 116 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: to be thirty. Yes, we've known each other a long time. 117 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Row Row Do you remember the first 118 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: time we met? Where it was and mar Chavis? Nope? 119 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: It was on the talk show Third Degree? Do you 120 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: remember that you and Charlowe were trying to get us 121 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: to guess on the Burke Convy hosted Third Degree, a 122 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: very short lived game show, And I looked at you 123 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: and went Oh my god, those are the Harletts. And 124 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: I said to the person next to me, I think 125 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: I have to disqualify myself. I know, exactly that was 126 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: my line. What's my line? Exactly? What's my life? Who 127 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: is that bitch too loud singing? Was on a game 128 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: show trying to hide who they are? Exactly, bettles Holt. 129 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: I actually just got some flowers from bed. Oh how nice. Yeah, 130 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: she sent me for the star on the Hollywood Walk 131 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: of Fame. And how exciting was that? Jennifer Lewis. It 132 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: was a perfect day. Yeah, I mean it went off 133 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: without a hitch, and I was so happy. I wore 134 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: the yellow because I looked like a bird of paradise. 135 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: You look beautiful. I just yeah. And I was telling 136 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: the kids to vote that shit with Marrow. I was 137 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: very happy about that. Debbie Ellen and Mark Shaman showed up. 138 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: It was it was the perfect day. And I knew 139 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: you and Kathy were working that day, so I didn't 140 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: want to bother y'all. Maybe y'all were working. Well, we 141 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: would always show up for you. Are you kidding? We 142 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: are in our sixties now, Dahl, How does that feel? 143 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: I just turned sixty six, you know, what Yeah, it 144 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: feels fucking good. I think so too. What what happens 145 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: is the magic of wisdom reveals itself. I agree. I 146 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: mean so little stresses me out now. I'm like, taxi, bitch, 147 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: get the funk out of here with that. Yes, I 148 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: mean really, you saw it going on. Drop all the 149 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: shit that didn't work when you ate your sixties, and 150 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: then you're like onward into whatever comes next, because we're 151 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: in that final third. Absolutely, we're in that last thirty years. 152 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: If we're lucky, you know, and you know you know 153 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: what I tell people. I sat, I said, listen very carefully. 154 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: I got about thirty summers. You don't get one. They're mine. Yep. 155 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that I know more of 156 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: who I am, and I like that girl. It's one 157 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: thing to walk around to my I love myself. No, 158 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: fuck you, bitch, do you like yourself? I like me? Yeah. 159 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: I just got back from Africa and I was standing 160 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: at the tip of the Motherland with those waves pounding 161 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: on those ancient stones out there, and I stood there 162 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: and I said it out loud. I said, I like me, 163 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: go get them Jenny. Yes, it's that Jenny, not that 164 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: Jennifer motherfucking Lewis. I'm talking about that Jenny, that little 165 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: girl in Saint Louis. Absolutely of the Saint Louis Lewis 166 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: is only you can say that's right. And I never 167 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: forgot it when you open your shirt with that Oh 168 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: my god, in love with this woman. What am I 169 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: gonna do? Right? You did? You loved me, You loved 170 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: me from the start. Well, honey, you're so spectacular. It's 171 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: hard to keep your eyes off you. You steal every 172 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: show you're in, every movie, every part you like. I'm like, 173 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: fucking there's Jennifer Lewis again, you know. And you kept 174 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: going and going and going and going, and I'm so 175 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,599 Speaker 1: proud of all your accomplishments. And black at you, I 176 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: mean really, honey, black at you, baby, black at you. 177 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: I've seen you in your dramatic acting work. You're so good. 178 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: I just sit here and go, there's my baby girl, 179 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: there's my baby doing it all. Funny girl, dramatic girl, 180 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: good human being. Honest. It's that honesty that sites me 181 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: more than anything. Same with me. I tell people, Yeah, 182 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: I tell people, bitch, there's no shortcut to greatness. No, 183 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: you gotta overturn every stove yea, you don't get to 184 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 1: skip around the truth. That's why they say the truth, 185 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: whole truth, nothing but the truth. Yes, indeed, so I 186 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: admire that in you. I really do. Just just they 187 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: call it down to earth, but it's uh, it's more 188 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: powerful than that. It's being in the moments present. So true. Yeah, 189 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: so important. And you know the things that I couldn't 190 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: stop from little Row when I was a kid, to 191 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: big Row now is the need to always tell what 192 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: was happening in my life. And you know, I think 193 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: it comes from a childhood of abuse. It comes from 194 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: having to be hyper sensitive to what people's moods are, 195 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, and then trying to figure out my own 196 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: in the midst of that. Yeah, where is that shoe 197 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: coming from? Yes? Where is that shoe from? Mamma coming from? Shoe? 198 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: You don't even know it. It's you, and I gotta 199 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: tell you Row all. Oh god, I'm so excited to 200 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: even say this. I feel so free in my life, 201 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: not bound by waiting for somebody to let me know 202 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: if I got the gig. You see. Sure it's been 203 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: a while since that kind of shit, since our audition 204 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: for anything, but back in the day, coming up with 205 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: that do they want me? Am I good enough? I 206 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: actually had a step up on them. Though I knew 207 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: I had a gift, they couldn't really fuck with me. 208 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: I would walk into an audition room and see all 209 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: of them sitting on the toilet, right, you see, So 210 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: I wasn't fucking intimidated. But the point I want to 211 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: make about that honesty is I have no secrets. I 212 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: gave them all up in the two books I've written, 213 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: which are beautiful. Yeah, here it is, bitches. Here's the molestation, 214 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: here's the sex addiction, Here's the bipolar disorder. Here it 215 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: all is laid down on the paper. Take it and 216 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: run with it. Because once you read all that shit, 217 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: all you gotta do is come back to me. And 218 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: all I can tell you is look at me now, 219 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: right right, no stone overturned. You know, I swim down stream. 220 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't have to go upstream anymore, right, And it 221 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: is so freeing. That's exactly the word that I would use. 222 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Like something changed at fifty. It didn't bother me. I 223 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: didn't think anything of it, but something about sixty, like 224 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: in my mind, the people who are sixty or like 225 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Vivian Vans, you know, yeah, say to Thompson from family, 226 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: like those people are all sixty and now I'm one 227 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: of them, you know, right, And and I remember my 228 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: great aunts when they were in their sixties, how they 229 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: had so many health issues. All right, and you know 230 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: you can live long now if you take care of yourself. 231 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: We know how now how to eat? You know, we 232 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: have to get up and move our bodies. We know 233 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: we have to be honest. Going back to that, keep 234 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: the stress off. It's stress that causes all these diseases. 235 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: You know, when you are in fact dis ease. Now, 236 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: how do you fu with that? You keep people away 237 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: from you that are trying to quat your joy? Yes, 238 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean that is that is a real thing. Because 239 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: you know me, when I get up, I get up skipping. Yes, 240 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: I'll wake the fuck up and skip by the big 241 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: come on bit, just bring a day, Yes, fucking sign 242 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: is up. And you know, and then you dropped down 243 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: to a full split with no problem. I've seen you 244 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: do it, girl, I've seen you do it girl. You 245 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: know I've always been athletic. You know, I played racquetball, softball, 246 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: did pilates for damn did thirty years. Yoga. Yoga was 247 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: real important too, to center myself, you know, especially with 248 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: the bipolar disorder, right, the mania and the depression. And 249 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: I tell people, you know, once you the first thirty 250 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: five years of my life, I was depressed. I didn't 251 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: really know it. Shit, I just thought everybody cried at night. Shit, right, 252 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, living in the world, that's you know that 253 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: you just break the fuck down. What was that movie 254 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: with Holly Hunter or she would just break the fuck down? 255 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: An old movie broadcast about But yes, yes, I remember 256 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: when I first saw that. I was like, oh that's 257 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: how I am. Yeah, breaked out a fucking aunt go 258 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: across the street. Oh look at that poor aunt, right, 259 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: and you know it's just a huh. It was life, right, 260 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: So when I was diagnosed, I really wanted tells like, God, damn, 261 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: that does describe me. Hey, don't go away, We'll be 262 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: right back with more. Jennifer Lewis, it was nineteen ninety 263 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: when you got diagnosed, Yeah, and had your life become 264 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: unmanageable that you finally went to get a diagnosis or 265 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: had you always been in therapy it No, it was 266 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: the height of the AIDS epidemics. I fell apart, girl, 267 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I found myself on the floor screaming, and 268 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: just so happens a girlfriend that I really respected, she 269 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: said to me, Jennifer, you got to get some help. 270 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, bitch, I'm Jennifer Little. There only no fucking help. Right. 271 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 1: But when all of my friends started dying like that, 272 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: I knew something was wrong. I would go to auditions 273 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: and literally fall apart. I remember auditioning for thirty something 274 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: and Peter Wharton looking at me and said, what's wrong you? 275 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: You can do this, I've seen your work just fell apart. 276 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: And it was when that started happening, I was like, okay, yeah, 277 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: time to do something. And I got in therapy. The 278 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: first two years she was just the captive audience. Yeah, 279 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: I mean she cocked. I know exactly that feeling. Yeah. 280 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: She would ask me, Jennifer, why are you performing? Yeah, 281 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, bitch, this is what's going on. Yeah. So, 282 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: when you thought to get to those real feelings that 283 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: are really deep in your soul from the childhood abuse 284 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: and the acting out so many years and running, running, running, right, 285 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: you just find out you're going to meet yourself when 286 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: you get there. So, now, when they told you the diagnosis, 287 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: Because when I got diagnosed, with severe depression. It was 288 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: right after Columbine and I had this two little babies, 289 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: and I was waking up every night thinking somebody was 290 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: in my house with a gun, that kids were going 291 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: to be killed in schools. I couldn't I couldn't fathom 292 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: how this was happening in my world. And it caused 293 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 1: me such dress. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, I 294 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: couldn't stop crying. I could hardly do my show without 295 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: like squeezing aline muscles to try to stop myself from 296 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: having feelings. And so this doctor said to me, you're 297 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: going to go on these medicines. You're severe panic, you 298 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: have severe PSD, you have severe you know, a depression 299 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: like I've never seen, and you need to be medicated. 300 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: And I said okay, because I was a mess. And 301 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: I said how long am I going to have to 302 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: take these? And she said the rest of your life? 303 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I get it. Yeah, and 304 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: I've been medicated for now about thirty five years. I 305 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: would say, yeah. For me, it's since ninety nine. Yeah. 306 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: I get up every morning, I take three pills and 307 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: I go about my business. You know, I ain't no 308 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: shame in my game. Bring it. Come on, y'all, let's 309 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: get it together. This shit is real, yes, I mean 310 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: you can't believe it at first. You're like, oh, honey, 311 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: I can't get on that ship. That shit's gonna take 312 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: my edge, right. Well, no, it didn't take my edge. 313 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: It put me in a place where a level. I 314 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,959 Speaker 1: wasn't high high, and I wasn't low low, right. I 315 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: was in a level place where I could enjoy my life, 316 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: enjoy my success. So I still I take care of myself. 317 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm managed. And all I can say is, you know, 318 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: look at me now, and bitches exactly, I still got 319 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: a big old smile on my face. Yeah, no, you do. 320 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 1: It hasn't take anything from you. Jennifer Lewis, I was 321 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,479 Speaker 1: very moved during the height of Kanye's severe mental issued 322 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: trauma that he's going through that you really reached out 323 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: in a beautiful way. I saw you on a bunch 324 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: of interviews and you know, you're like, call me, call 325 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: me kid, And I kind of felt the same way. 326 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: You know, I was like, yeah, I wish I could 327 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,719 Speaker 1: reach him, you know all of it. It seemed to 328 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: me that I know he had a traumatic brain injury 329 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: when he got in that car accident before he was known, 330 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: and he was living with his mom, and then I 331 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: think when he lost his mom, something just shattered inside 332 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: of him. You know. You know, mental illness is one thing, 333 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not, certainly not saying Kanye is evil by 334 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: any means. I just know a lot of people that 335 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: are berline personality disorder. Me too. There's a meanness that 336 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: comes with it, and I'm like, you know what, that's unacceptable. 337 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: I'm bipolar and I can be mean. Okay, maybe three 338 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: times a year, okay, maybe four, but you know, come on, yeah, 339 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean waking up and saying, you know, I'm going 340 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: def Khan five on the Jews. No, hey, hey, hey, 341 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: come here, yeah, come here, hey, yeah hey, yes, you know, 342 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: we got people down South with torches going the Jews 343 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: will not replace me. We don't eat that bullshit. What 344 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: you want to start? When all those followers of Civil War, right, 345 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: the fuck is wrong with you? Shut the fuck up? 346 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: And I meant that because I was mad. But the 347 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 1: undercurrent of that is the undercurrent of that is Kanye 348 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: come here, yes, come here, pup it, come here. And 349 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: you know, my name's Jennifer Lewis, and I understand what 350 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: you're going through totally. You're not alone, but you cannot 351 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: if they're not ready. There's nothing you can do. There's 352 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do. Yeah, 353 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: old baby, he's gonna I just hope that he that 354 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: he can find his way. I really do, because he 355 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: means a lot to a lot of people. Yes, he 356 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: has a huge following. These kids listen to him. They're 357 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: very protective of him. I've certainly found that out. When 358 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: I told them to shut the fuck they like Auntie 359 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: back off, Kanye Am. I response to them with, no, 360 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: go fuck yourself right. That baby's got some issues, and 361 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: how about you go take care of yours and don't 362 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 1: roll up on me, bitch, because I know who I 363 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: am exactly, and y'all can't drag me. No. I've been 364 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: fighting out here for you for a ten thousand years, 365 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: whether the breast cancer, whether it was AIDS, whether it 366 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: was the community, I don't care what it is, civil rights. 367 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: I know who I am. Don't come for me, right, 368 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: Don't come for me, especially because you know you tend 369 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: to mother everyone, the mother of black Hollywood that you are, 370 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: absolutely and you know he's an orphan. Absolutely little boys 371 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: sort of lost in the world alone, is how I 372 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: look at him. Everyone goes, why do you look at 373 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: him as a little boy. I'm like, I don't know, 374 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 1: but I see the child that he was, and I 375 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: just that's arrested development. Yeah. If that's not arrested development 376 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: as this hype, what is I mean? He is a baby. 377 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: He's a baby to us, Yes, and we are here 378 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: to say, hey, I've been through it. Yeah, I know 379 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: what you're going through. Not come here, let me show 380 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: you your way out. Let me show you that. Yeah, 381 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: come here, you said, right here, and let me tell 382 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: you a thing or two, or for that matter, show 383 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: you a thing or two. Right here, it is in 384 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: black and white. Here's that scared little girl, right, Here's 385 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: that baby. Here's that baby that was molested by the 386 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: past of her church. Here's another baby that was abused 387 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: and beaten and still have the scars to prove it. Yeah. 388 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: So I'm not here to minimize your pain, but I'm 389 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: not gonna let you tell me that your pain is 390 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: more important than everybody else. Exactly, grow the fuck up. 391 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: But you know, as you know, and I know, borderline 392 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: personality disorder is like really not treatable. Oh not row. 393 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 1: I can't call the name, but somebody we both love 394 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: got that borderline and it I had to make a 395 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: profound decision to let go. Yeah, there's nothing you can 396 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: do that. You can't even have a logical conversation because 397 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: the disease itself, it ain't nothing wrong with me. Now, 398 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: how you're going to penetrate that ever? Ain't if there's 399 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: nothing wrong, and we can't come to the table and 400 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: at least discuss. And I tried to get that person 401 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: in rehab. I did everything, and when it's borderline, there's 402 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: just nothing you can do but let that person go 403 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: and live. Yeah, And it's absolutely heartbreaking, you know, especially 404 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: when it close in your life, when it's somebody oh yeah, right, 405 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: or close to your intimate circle of people. And I 406 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: have found that no matter what transpires in my relationship 407 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: with her, there's no say eavings account at her bank. No, 408 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: like anything that I've done in the world kind of 409 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: to help or try to help or be there, there's 410 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: no record of it in her psyche, in her mind. No. 411 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: So every need a fault, Yeah, always it was your fault, right, 412 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: I did nothing. I did nothing, And you're like but 413 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: it's always a two way street. When there's any kind 414 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: of confrontation or there's any kind of interaction, it's two way. Yeah. Anyway, 415 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and try to explain logic, 416 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: but what we have to do if you love that person, 417 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: if you truly do love them, right, you gotta let 418 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: them go because they'll kill you. They will so true. 419 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: I just did that, you know, about a month ago, 420 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: and I gotta tell you it's the hardest thing I've 421 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: ever done. And every day indeed tempted to reach out again, 422 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: and I go, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop right, don't participate. 423 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: I look, I look at my friend's picture, and I 424 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: want to reach out also. And then I look in 425 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: the mirror right after that, and I say, you want 426 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: to die? Yeah, save yourself, man, because she's gonna kill you. Yes, 427 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: So you want to invite that back into your life. 428 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: Then you add on top of everything that you have 429 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: to struggle with, all of your challenges and all the 430 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: challenges I already have. Can you carry that? Yeah? Hey, 431 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: how heavy is that luggage? Missus Lewis? Yeah? Wait a 432 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: minute at sixty six? Right, hey? And once again, if 433 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: you have developed oh, girl, this is so deep, if 434 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: you really do have that magical wisdom, if you've actually 435 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: looked in the mirror and say, oh my god, I've 436 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: grown up and I care not only about the people 437 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: I love, I care about the world. Yes, if you 438 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: can reach a point of that where in you can 439 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: you invite somebody back to destroy everything you've worked for, 440 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: because they will destroy it because your heart is so vulnerable, right, 441 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: they will find that place and go stab here's stab 442 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: a rut. Yeah, you go take this knife, Take this knife. 443 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna take this knife. Let me get a bigger one. Yeah. Here, 444 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: I'm back for some more. Here I am yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 445 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Come on. It's too hard, man, it's too hard. Did 446 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: your mania have epicis? Like I've read about people who, 447 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, they wake up and they're in another country 448 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: and they or they've spent all their money or you know, 449 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: did you ever No? I never got that bad. Yeah, 450 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: I never got that bad. I was always conscious of 451 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: the mania, unable to stop it. But I will say this, 452 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said this before. I was 453 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: basically a good girl. I was a good girl, and 454 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't out there to hurt anybody. I didn't want 455 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: to hurt anybody. I always thought, you know, my karmel 456 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: was instant. If I actually raged at someone, I'd walk 457 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: right outside and trip and fall and bust my lip. 458 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: If I kicked a piece of furniture, I would, you know, 459 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: turn my ankle. So I learned pretty early that you 460 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: only hurt yourself when you do that. I'm not saying 461 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: I could control it every time, but I will say this, 462 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: this is real talk. There wasn't a time in my 463 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: life that I raged at someone and didn't say I 464 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: was sorry, and I meant it, Yeah, I meant it. 465 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 1: I meant it. Yeah. And I told my friend that 466 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: same for it. One time I had raged and I 467 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: apologized and she said, no, I don't accept it. And 468 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: I said, very clearly, well, I'm going upstairs and I'm 469 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: going to go to sleep, and I am going to 470 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: sleep well with peace of mind, because I know when 471 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: I say I'm sorry, I mean it right. So you 472 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: go do what you gotta do. But I'm going to sleep, 473 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: and I'm going to sleep peacefully because I know who 474 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: I am right, and I know that something deep inside 475 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: of me did not mean to go that far right. 476 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: And I knew I was my pole of it. I knew. Yeah, yeah, 477 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: but you know, look, when you got personalities like you 478 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: and me, that personality is going to break through that 479 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: medication sometimes. Yes, I'm sorry, we are right alpha women. Yeah, 480 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: that's right. I'm like, bitch, I'll say to somebody in 481 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: a minute, Hey, it ain't if I was on a drip, bitch, 482 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: it ain't that much medication in the world, right, that's 483 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: gonna stop this personality from coming through sometimes, right, I 484 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: totally hear you. So basically, I'm telling you you've been warned. 485 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: Back the fuck up right, I'm alpha, and if you know, 486 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: approach with caution. Oh, don't come in here, right, Believe me. 487 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come for you because I ain't got time. 488 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: But if you're coming over here, because I know I 489 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of joy in my life. My book 490 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: is called Walking in My Joy. I'm not gonna leave 491 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: a boutique, a grocery store for that night. I'm let 492 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: alone a meeting or a party and not have everybody 493 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: laughing before I leave the fucking No, before the drinks 494 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: are served. Honey, you didn't before the odrves. Come on you, 495 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: you are the light of every party and everything you're in, Honey, 496 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: you are look I'm coming in. Yeah, don't invite me 497 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: or don't hire me, bitch, because yeah, I'm gonna steal 498 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: the motherfucking scene. Don't even think somebody's looking at you 499 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: if I'm in a SA Now, why is that, miss Lewis? 500 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Why is that? Because I was gifted? Bitch? I came 501 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: out singing at the moment, right, you understand? So I 502 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: can't stop that. I tell people, well, not even me 503 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: can stop me. So you might want to back the 504 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: fuck up. This is what's coming to the table. And 505 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: have I had to deal with that? Have I had 506 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: to deal with working with really a list of people 507 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: and they snuffed my shit out? Of course? Yes, I've 508 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: had to deal with that. Have I had to deal 509 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: with people showing up and doing Jennifer Lewis absolutely either 510 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: for that matter still and material for my one Woman's shows. Yes, 511 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: But my dean of students at my university, I went 512 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: in her office and I was crying. I said, my 513 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: girlfriend shared every time I do something, she comes out 514 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: on stages, she does it. And my dean of students 515 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: said this to me. This has carried me from being 516 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: hurt in this business, having been treated like a step 517 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: child because people are intimidated by my talent. I know that. 518 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: Come on, it real what she said to me in 519 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: that office, and it really carried me through life. She said, Jennifer, 520 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: you don't get too upset, she said, don't get too 521 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: upset about that, because I've known you for three years 522 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: now and I've seen your work and by the time 523 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: somebody has caught onto something you've done, you've gone on 524 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: to something new. Anyway, I was gonna say, you got 525 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: ten more in your back pocket, thank you. So I've 526 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: been able to weather that storm, and oh a fucking storm. 527 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Matter has been, you see, because I have been treated 528 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: like a step child in this business. Oh I've risen 529 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: to the top. I mean, I'll tell a bitch in 530 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: a minute, yo, bitch, I metched in fucking Marvel now 531 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: at Hollywood and buy go fuck yourself right. I did it. 532 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: I got the biggest one totally. So go on now 533 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: if you go on, because I'm cool and like I 534 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: said on that day when I got the star on 535 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Walk of Fame, everybody out here knows I 536 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: am well. I didn't need this to tell me. I 537 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: was a star. Nor to tell you that I'm a stop. 538 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: But did I earn this bitch? Yes, everybody knows that too. Yes, 539 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: let's celebrate. Yea, this is a beautiful day. And I 540 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: was very grateful, and believe it or not, a little 541 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: humility was thrown in there. I don't know much about that, 542 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: that word, but you don't needed. Hey, I found out 543 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: something about you while I was doing a little research, 544 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: even though I didn't have to read anything because I knew. 545 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: But there was a fact I did not know that 546 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: you played Effie White in the read through of dream 547 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Girls for Michael Bennett. Wasn't only the read through, it 548 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: was the workshop itself. Why Actually, at that point they 549 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: had fired Jennifer Holiday and they brought me in, the actress, 550 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: to develop the role. I did a six week workshop 551 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: with Loretta and Cheryl and all of the cast in 552 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: Harney and over babatun Day. We were all there. We 553 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: were kids, and I could sing, yes, but nobody could 554 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: sing like that girl. So they used me the actress, 555 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 1: to develop the role, and then hired her back. And 556 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: at that time, you know, I didn't know the show 557 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: was going to be the big hit that it did. 558 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: So I didn't care. I was getting ready to go 559 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 1: out on a national tour with You Be, another Broadway 560 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: show I had done. And what was brilliant about Michael 561 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: Bidnett is he started that whole thing about workshops before 562 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: the show went into rehearsal for Broadway. The contract was 563 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: that if you were in one of the workshops and 564 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: contributed your talent to the development of the show, if 565 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: the show went to Broadway, you would get paid a 566 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: percentage wow throughout the run. So I'd never a step 567 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: foot on the Broadway stage to play Effie, but I 568 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: was peppy throughout the run. Wow, how about that? So 569 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: that was quite the ill And like I said, I 570 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: didn't know it was going to be the hit that 571 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: it was. So when they said they were going to 572 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: hire Jennifer, I was like, Okay, hey, Rosie, until I 573 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: came back to town and saw that fucking billboard of 574 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: Sheryl and Loretta and all of them standing there like that. 575 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 1: Yeah with this mouth, I went all fuck right. But 576 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, look, I had my triumphs, I had my losses, 577 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: and it's just wonderful to grow up and realize that 578 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: once you've owned something, you can't lose it Now, once 579 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: you've looked through a door, you can't pretend you didn't 580 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: see what was on the other side. Right. So, like 581 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: I said, it's the magical wisdom that is the prize. 582 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: Who knew it was coming, who knew it would be 583 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: this comforting? Yes, to wake up and not be afraid 584 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: to face the day. Ye, to have done the work 585 00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: and be able to trust yourself walking into any room beautiful, 586 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 1: you know, because you bring the glory and the Hallelujah 587 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: with you. You know you you bring it into the 588 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: room because you trust who you are, because you know 589 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 1: you live on purpose, and you wrote down this morning 590 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: what the fuck you were gonna do today? Right, I'm 591 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: in charge of this bitch. Yes, Like you know, I'm 592 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: going through something right now, and depression will kind of 593 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: inch in, it will start the inch. I was like, oh, man, 594 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: I gotta deal with Hey, get the fuck out Jitny, 595 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: right Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, Oh no, you won't. But one thing, 596 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: Rosie too. I guess it's like anything else you practice. 597 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: I actually am finding that I am incapable of going 598 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,320 Speaker 1: into depression. Wow, it doesn't register anymore. I'm like, oh no, bitch, 599 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: you might want to go once you learn to ballance 600 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: your life. Yeah, with the bad ship that's going on, 601 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: you gotta come over here, and you got to look 602 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: at some mountains, bitch, Yes, you gotta go and hug 603 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: a fucking treat if you got to get in nature. Man. Yeah, 604 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: you know it's funny. I moved to the beach here 605 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: in Malibu about six months ago. And yeah, I always 606 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 1: when I lived here, you know, wanted to be near 607 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: the beach, but I just never did it. And so 608 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: Fran Drescher has a place here. And for thirty years, 609 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: I've been going to a place, going I would love 610 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 1: to live like this. And I turned sixty and I 611 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 1: call my brother who does my money, and I go, Tim, 612 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm going to rent a house that's very expensive in 613 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: Malibu for one year. Yeah. And I've been here and 614 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: it's changed so much in my life and world about 615 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: my own depression, my own joy of life, my own 616 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: journey that I you know, now as the leases coming 617 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 1: up and I'm looking at the prices, and you know, 618 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: I would give this money away in a minute without 619 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: thinking about it. But will I spend it on me 620 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: and my own happiness? Hello? Hello? Yeah? I tell people 621 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: row human beings have one job and one job only 622 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: self care. Yes, and when you do that, your arms 623 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: will be strong when the people you love fall. Yes. 624 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: And that includes communities, charities, all of it. One thing 625 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: you have to understand when tragic things happen in your life. 626 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: The first piece is to balance. Who were you before 627 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: the shit happened? Okay? Or you taking responsibility at least 628 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,919 Speaker 1: some of the responsibility for it happening. Yes, come on now, Oh, 629 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: I created this great job, but did you create this? Right? 630 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: Take some responsibility? Right, you create everything? So come on, hey, righty, 631 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,800 Speaker 1: So you take responsibility and then you balance. And then 632 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: I gotta change my password because I'm getting I'm getting 633 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: read to tell everybody what the password is. Okay, password is. 634 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 1: I got up, bitches, I got up bitches. That's a 635 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 1: good one, man, That is a good one. Mine for 636 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: years was be still. Oh, because my desire to confront 637 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 1: all the wrongs and stand up for the underdog and 638 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: help every poor kid and save all the abuse kids 639 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: it's too much. And I just had to tell myself 640 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: be still. So every time I signed in, that was 641 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: what I was doing. Be still. Okay, let me center 642 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: myself what I did too so what I did too. Yes, 643 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: we have these great careers and all we want to 644 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: do is give back, and that is certainly what I do. 645 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: But I'm going to be honest, which I take care 646 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 1: of Jennifer Lewis first, I really do. I take care 647 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: of myself first. I got the kids. Got this thing 648 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: on the internet where I say, I get up every morning. 649 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 1: I brushed my teeth, I spit it out, I leaned forward, 650 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 1: I look in the mirror, I pause, and I say, 651 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: pretty bitch, and then I go on my way. Then 652 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: I love you so much. Can I tell you how 653 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: wonderful the show is. I love this for you. Oh 654 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: my god, honey, what a little gem, what a perfect 655 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: little character study. You're wonderful in it. All the women 656 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: are amazing. One of my favorite shows. And I heard 657 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 1: it just got picked up right. Well, now, we don't 658 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: know yet. You may know something I don't know. I 659 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: heard from an actress on the show that there is 660 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 1: really yes I did. I have not heard yet. And 661 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't go skipping and jumping for joy 662 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 1: to that fucking contractor side. But am I enjoying? First 663 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 1: of all, let me just say that Vanessa Bay and 664 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: Molly Shannon genius that matter, the whole cast. I am 665 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: in an environment now, and as I know, you know, 666 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: this is my best work. Yes, the playing Patricia, I 667 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: would claim is my best work. It's beautiful. But I 668 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: am in an environment where I can create like that. Yes, 669 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: makes all the difference. Oh my god, Molly Shannon and 670 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 1: Vanessa bay A too good too. Oh my god. I 671 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: have to say. I have to say to Vanessa Baya 672 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: every episode, I have to look at it, go what, 673 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: especially when I first got there, go what the fuck 674 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: are you doing? Yeah? Yeah, why did you just bite 675 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: the air? Right? Who bites the a? Vanessa? Yeah? Vanessa 676 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,839 Speaker 1: and Platricia, my character has to of course stand there 677 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: and be the bitch that she is, right, And I 678 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: got Vanessa squeaking our pants. I got her doing all 679 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: the little things. Oh my god, hilarious. I live the 680 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't familiar with Vanessa's work. I really wasn't. 681 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,720 Speaker 1: And I wasn't either. We grew up with Molly. Yes, Molly, 682 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: I knew everything and love everything, and I was like, 683 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 1: who's this other girl? She's unbelievable, She's so good. Molly 684 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: is oh Jennifer, Oh, let's massage the scene. Now, I'm like, here, 685 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 1: come this bitch. I'm fifty. I can kick the same 686 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: bitch that tongue kiss the tree right, and fell into 687 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: chairs with Whitney Hilston. Yes, when they called me Rosie. 688 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: When they called me because I just finished eight years 689 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: on Black and right, would y'all leave me alone? Give 690 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 1: me please? But they called me and said Molly Shannon, 691 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: I said, bitch, you had me at Hello. Yes, because 692 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: of nothing else. I know I'm gonna have fun and guests. 693 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: Who was on the zoo? Who's that executive producer and 694 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 1: creator star the show, Vanessa band Right? Well, I had 695 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,439 Speaker 1: no idea. Oh she was really I've seen a work 696 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: in Na, you know, and say night live. But we, 697 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: like I said, we grew up with Molly, and Vanessa's 698 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm going, oh, Molly shared it. Yeah, 699 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: I've been with and Vanessa and I joke about it 700 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: all the time. She said. I just sat there and 701 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: thought she hates me, but she's so good I still 702 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: want to hire her. Well, she's a smart woman to 703 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 1: cast all you and the writing and best armstrong as 704 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: her mom is just I love to see her and 705 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: Rogers all of the kid fantasts I mean, and like 706 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 1: I said, the best thing about it is we have 707 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 1: created an environment in order to give you guys like 708 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: you said this, Jim Jam, I love that. I agree, 709 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: h of a show. Listen, Honey, I love you and 710 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: I could talk to you over and over and over. 711 00:43:44,520 --> 00:44:10,959 Speaker 1: I love you so much than you so much. All right, Pumpkin, Hey, 712 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: We're about to answer some of the questions that you 713 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 1: our listeners have sent in. You just record a voice 714 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 1: memo on your phone and then send it to Onward 715 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: Rosie at gmail dot com, and we will answer your 716 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: question if we see fit. Take it away. Who's the 717 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: first question? Hi, Rose. My name is Matt Curry and 718 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. Hi Matt Curry, thank 719 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: you so much for bringing this podcast to life. I'm 720 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: so delighted to have you back in my kitchen again 721 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: and listening to the interesting conversations that you're having so far. 722 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:54,280 Speaker 1: My question is, what is the biggest misunderstanding about you? Huh? 723 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: I think the biggest misunderstanding about me, Matt is that 724 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm tough. You know, I have like a cadence and 725 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,839 Speaker 1: a kind of continence of sort of being a tough 726 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 1: New York girl, you know, And when people get to 727 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 1: meet me and they have not met me before, they're like, 728 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: I can't believe what is softer you are? You know? 729 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: I really am like I cry kind of often. I 730 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,879 Speaker 1: am very mushy. I'm very emotional, and I'm not really 731 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: all that tough, although I do stand up for what 732 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: I believe in. But I think the biggest misconception is 733 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: that I'm a toughie, and frankly, I ain't. All right. 734 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: We got another one coming up. Who we got next? Hello, Rosie, 735 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm Sandra and doctor Sandstorm on TikTok. I wanted to 736 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: congratulate you on your new podcast. I just listened to 737 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: it on a walk and it was just so refreshing 738 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: to hear you and Sharon talking about how you visualize 739 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 1: your futures and they came to pass and I just 740 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you a question. And knowing that we 741 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: do this, we visualize our futures and we manifest them, 742 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: I wonder what you think about all the attention that 743 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: we pay to the negativities in our environment and what's 744 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: going on in our world. I'm the mother of a 745 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: trans daughter, and I worry about her every day, and 746 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 1: I have to keep up on what's going on in 747 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: the politics of our country. And yet sometimes I feel 748 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: like by focusing on it, I'm bringing about more and 749 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: I wonder what your thoughts are on that. Wow, well, 750 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: that's a fascinating conversation. I think my first thought, of course, 751 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: would be to get as much information as I could 752 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 1: to keep my daughter safe. And I also realized at 753 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: the same time how overwhelming that can be, especially now 754 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: with the Republican led organized attack on the LBGTA community, 755 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: and it's terrifying what's happening to trans people. It's terrifying 756 00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: how they're trying to use us once again as a 757 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: voting wedge, as as something that they can use to 758 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: anger and discredit and shame people and oftentimes get them killed. 759 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: You know, I think that we do give power to things, 760 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: and then we can manifest them by thinking them. You know, 761 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 1: I think therefore, I am I mean, I do believe 762 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: that we choose and manifest our life as we as 763 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: we live it. And and the balance that we need 764 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 1: to find between information and instinct, between caring and coverage. 765 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: You know, though, that's a balance that we all have 766 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 1: to struggle with and find out how to make that 767 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: work in our life. Hey, thank you all for tuning in. 768 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,520 Speaker 1: Please leave me a voice em if you can. Next 769 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: week on this podcast, Onward with Rosie o'donald. I almost 770 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: call it a blog every day, that's how old I am. 771 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: It's not a blog, people, it's a podcast. Next week 772 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 1: is Dylan Mulvaaney, who's a wonderful young woman that you 773 00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: probably know from TikTok, who filmed her transition and filmed 774 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 1: a year of her life as she transitioned from male 775 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,879 Speaker 1: to female. And she's a wonderful young woman and we 776 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: had a very interesting conversation. She's the age of my 777 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: elder children, and I feel like a parent to her. 778 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, like a mom. And I 779 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 1: was curious about things I didn't understand and she definitely 780 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 1: helped me. And all of that comes out next week 781 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: Onward with Rosie o'donald Dylan Mulvaaney, So don't miss that. 782 00:48:51,480 --> 00:49:05,440 Speaker 1: So thank you all very much and peace out.