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Speaker 1: Got some football news. Lakers have lost three in a
Speaker 1: row and it's starting to set in Lebron playing too
Speaker 1: many minutes. We'll talk about that coming up. The Suns
Speaker 1: have won nine of ten quietly one nine of ten.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Sean Salisbury, a good from Houston. He'll
Speaker 1: join us coming up. Michael Silver. NFL Network had some
Speaker 1: news about Russell Wilson that at least ten teams have
Speaker 1: reached down to the Seahawks to inquire about the availability
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson. Seahawks haven't said anything. You know, the
Speaker 1: Texans have said we're not trading to Shaun Watson. Seattle
Speaker 1: hasn't said anything, and they probably feel like, well, no,
Speaker 1: he's our quarterback. There's no reason to know basically say
Speaker 1: something about this. And this started with the interview that
Speaker 1: he did with me a couple of weeks ago when
Speaker 1: he had been named the NFL Man of the Year,
Speaker 1: and he was at the Super Bowl and he's there
Speaker 1: with the Commissioner's Brady at age forty three, win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, be able to build a roster around him,
Speaker 1: and Russ probably came back on that plane flight with
Speaker 1: Sierra and said, what am I doing? Tom gets to
Speaker 1: go to Tampa and win a Super Bowl and look
Speaker 1: at what's happening to me in Seattle. I get sacked
Speaker 1: forty eight times per season. And then he said what
Speaker 1: he said on our show. Then we had a source
Speaker 1: telling us that this is something that is not sustainable,
Speaker 1: this relationship if it continues, and is Russell Wilson on
Speaker 1: the market, quietly on the market. We'll talk to Michael
Speaker 1: Silver from the NFL Network. He'll join us coming up
Speaker 1: as well. Also the situation with Dak Prescott. As you know,
Speaker 1: I don't troll you. I don't do the Cowboys just
Speaker 1: to do the Cowboys because of their fan base. If
Speaker 1: I have something I think is important, then we discuss it.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, this situation is starting to be more awkward.
Speaker 1: The injury certainly exacerbated that, but it just feels like
Speaker 1: it's getting stranger. Do they franchise him? By the way,
Speaker 1: it's Happy Franchise Tag Day. I don't know how you celebrate,
Speaker 1: but we party like rock stars here on Happy Franchise
Speaker 1: Tag Day. But with Dak Prescott, does he get franchised,
Speaker 1: and then if he gets franchised again, the amount of
Speaker 1: money that would spend in two years on Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: is going to be probably upwards of eighty five million dollars.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones probably has more money in his seat cushions
Speaker 1: than I have, But I think he made a big
Speaker 1: mistake with Dak Prescott. They could have had him for
Speaker 1: a bargain a couple of years ago. What would be
Speaker 1: considered a bargain at that position. Factor in that he
Speaker 1: if he gets franchised, I think it's around thirty five
Speaker 1: million dollars that he makes. It's the top five salaries
Speaker 1: at that position. Then the next year, buckle your Hans device.
Speaker 1: Fifty million dollars for Dak Prescott once again, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: brilliant businessman. But I think that they misplayed their hand
Speaker 1: on Dak Prescott. Now do I think he's a great quarterback? No?
Speaker 1: Do I think he's a very good quarterback for that team? Yes,
Speaker 1: I do. But if I'm the Cowboys, then I don't
Speaker 1: offer him a long term deal. Let me see what
Speaker 1: he does. Let he's going to bet on him, and
Speaker 1: I'll bet on us coming back from an injury. If
Speaker 1: you don't make the playoffs next year, then you move
Speaker 1: on from Dak Prescott. But what I want him miss
Speaker 1: my quarterback? Yes I would at that age, but I
Speaker 1: don't know the injury and coming back from the injury.
Speaker 1: But you know, as you move forward, you could have
Speaker 1: had Dak Prescott at a reasonable price, not anymore. And
Speaker 1: if you let him bet on himself with a franchise
Speaker 1: tag and he has an unbelievable year and you do well,
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, he's going to be making
Speaker 1: an average of forty million or more per year. Happy
Speaker 1: franchise tag day. Yes, Paully, I would disagree a little
Speaker 1: bit on the Dak Prescott if Jerry Jones may have
Speaker 1: stumbled into an out with Dak Prescott if they didn't
Speaker 1: make the playoffs in twenty nineteen, even though Dak had
Speaker 1: a great season. I think he had five thousand yards
Speaker 1: and thirty touchdowns. They were eight and eight. If somehow
Speaker 1: he comes back and is good and they don't make
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, they can easily get out from
Speaker 1: his contract with a franchise yea and they don't spend
Speaker 1: You know, I don't It's not fair to compare to
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz because Dak's playing much better. But I can't
Speaker 1: give Jerry credit for accidentally stumbling into this, right, you're
Speaker 1: right here that if they could have got him for
Speaker 1: a lot less a year and a half ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because then now you have to go out in do
Speaker 1: you trade for somebody? Who are you bringing in? You're
Speaker 1: drafting somebody like the Cowboys are ready to win now
Speaker 1: and you're not going to bring in a rookie and
Speaker 1: are you going to trade for somebody or sign somebody?
Speaker 1: And then what do they cost? You don't? I mean,
Speaker 1: Jerry wants to expedite this to get another Super Bowl
Speaker 1: desperately Jerry's not a kid anymore. He desperately wants to
Speaker 1: get one more super Bowl at least, and Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, and all the weapons, all the money
Speaker 1: that they've spent. I mean, Jerry's seventy eight years old
Speaker 1: at least parts of it. Mark, Oh no, he's young
Speaker 1: at hard What do you guys talking to? Bounce young
Speaker 1: in heart? Whoa? Now, he's really not coming on the show.
Speaker 1: He's never coming on the show. He's not a Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick's not a leader, is what he's not. Dak's a leader.
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll find out if Dak is their
Speaker 1: their quarterback of the future. Yes, McLevin, it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like they have a much bigger problem that has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with Dak. Like they couldn't tackle, block, like
Speaker 1: they played with no heart last year. Those are those
Speaker 1: are essential ingredients for a team to be a good team,
Speaker 1: you know, blocking and tackling. They have so much talent,
Speaker 1: but what's what's missing. They're overrated because they're cowboys. They're overrated.
Speaker 1: Who is a truly great player on that team? Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith didn't play last year? Yeah, that that killed them.
Speaker 1: I mean, Zack Martin didn't play like, wasn't he injured
Speaker 1: as well? Yeah? He was definitely out. Okay, who is
Speaker 1: truly great on the Cowboys? Exactly because they're the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and they're talked about all the time. Remember that defense,
Speaker 1: Remember Alden Smith. I don't know if I heard Alden
Speaker 1: Smith's name after week four, but oh this defense. Oh
Speaker 1: Sean Lee when he's healthy and never healthy Leyton vander
Speaker 1: ash Well, that's the guy everyone was saying he's at
Speaker 1: the next superstar. Yeah, it's because he's on the Cowboys. Lee.
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith too. I love the Jalen Smith story. He's
Speaker 1: a good player. They don't have any great players. You
Speaker 1: don't have a great coach, you don't have a great GM.
Speaker 1: What about all those receivers? Some of them have to
Speaker 1: be great. Who is great? You know what they have?
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have a great JumboTron. They have the best JumboTron.
Speaker 1: Have a Zeke? No, not great? He was at one point,
Speaker 1: But that's not what I'm asking. Who is great now?
Speaker 1: With the Cowboys? They're trying to win now, not four
Speaker 1: years ago when we went gon Zeke is great? I
Speaker 1: looked at it. They have seventeen guys who've been to
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl seventeen, but not recently all them. I
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys have a decision to make with Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: and no matter what happens, it's going to be a
Speaker 1: topic they should have they shouldn't have. That is going
Speaker 1: to be a conversation because it brings about clicks. I
Speaker 1: just want something resolved here. I mean, I truly liked
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott when we've met him, I truly liked him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a great quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: he can be a good sometimes very good quarterback. But
Speaker 1: on that team, we have great expectations, not good expectations.
Speaker 1: It's great expectations. And are you going to franchise him?
Speaker 1: You're gonna let him bet on him self? And if
Speaker 1: you do, what's it going to cost you down the road?
Speaker 1: Or maybe you walk away from Dak Prescott through all
Speaker 1: of this, then you walk away from him. Yes, McLeman,
Speaker 1: we all fell in love with him when he did
Speaker 1: the self handshake when you couldn't you were at your
Speaker 1: back tarders. I think you remember that. Yes, I was.
Speaker 1: He was getting ready, I was saying goodbye, and we
Speaker 1: were throwing the ball outside the new York Studio and
Speaker 1: then I turned my back and then he had his
Speaker 1: hand out to shake my hand, and then he just
Speaker 1: shook his own hand completed the process. Yeah, awkward, Thank
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Speaker 1: three d P show. We'll come up with a poll question,
Speaker 1: Is that right? McLeman? Yeah? I actually have a poll
Speaker 1: question off our morning meeting that I don't know how
Speaker 1: to word use you throughout. Okay, wait a minute, Okay.
Speaker 1: We have a morning meeting that usually starts it around
Speaker 1: eight eastern ends around eight thirty, and we just sit
Speaker 1: around and we chit chat aunt a variety of things.
Speaker 1: We mostly just sit around. We listen to Paulie, and
Speaker 1: Paulie will run down everything that we're going to be
Speaker 1: discussing on the show. So what is the item that
Speaker 1: we chit chatted about that you want to use as
Speaker 1: a full question? So who would you rather have Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson or Russell Wilson, but you have to word it
Speaker 1: in a way that waits the potential trades for the
Speaker 1: two of them. Well, you'd almost have to say, would
Speaker 1: you be willing to give up four first rounds for
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and three for Russell Wilson because Russ is
Speaker 1: going to turn thirty two in November? Deshaun is twenty five.
Speaker 1: And you know, I started to think about this because
Speaker 1: it used to be you could end your career, start
Speaker 1: your career, and your career And does Russ thirty three
Speaker 1: in November? Polling checking his last birthday party I did
Speaker 1: not get invited to. Yeah, he turns thirty three in November. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like eight years older than de Sean. Yeah. We know,
Speaker 1: players now, won't you know, finish their careers with the
Speaker 1: team that they were drafted by. And certain players have
Speaker 1: a connection to a team where like Brady with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Peyton with the Colts, where you just JJ Watten with
Speaker 1: the Texans, Aaron Rodgers with the Packers, like you can
Speaker 1: envision them playing for somebody else. And Russell Wilson falls
Speaker 1: into that category. He's been the face of the Seahawks
Speaker 1: for quite some time. And you know, now you have
Speaker 1: this conversation if it's real or not that Russ could
Speaker 1: be traded or at least teams are interested in trading
Speaker 1: for him. You know he's a Hall of Famer, but man,
Speaker 1: it feels like those two Super Bowl appearances are a long,
Speaker 1: long time ago. Lost in the first round of the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and then characteristically raise questions about the rosters when he
Speaker 1: joined us on the show, and then you start to think,
Speaker 1: are the Seahawks a partial rebuild? Are they read loading?
Speaker 1: They're sort of in limbo because we know the Rams
Speaker 1: Rams are all in. The Niners are going to be
Speaker 1: healthy next year. I don't know what they're doing with
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, but they're going to be healthy next year
Speaker 1: and probably would be considered a better team than Seattle
Speaker 1: that's in their own division. We know Arizona can be
Speaker 1: dangerous there. But you know, the NFL is moving so
Speaker 1: fast right now that I don't think you can count
Speaker 1: out any move even once we thought would never happen,
Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson playing for somebody else. Would I want
Speaker 1: Russ at age thirty three and I give up three
Speaker 1: first round picks? I would not. Would I want to
Speaker 1: Sean Watson and give up four first round picks. I
Speaker 1: would because I'm going to bed on youth in this situation.
Speaker 1: Russ relies on his legs. He is going to be
Speaker 1: sacked more than any other quarterback in the history of
Speaker 1: the sport when it's all said and done, and I
Speaker 1: think just sheer attrition with that. We love Russ, we
Speaker 1: think he's great, He's a Hall of Famer. But if
Speaker 1: I can get to Shaun Watson at age twenty five,
Speaker 1: then I would do that. I have no problem giving
Speaker 1: up players for Deshaun Watson because you have to have
Speaker 1: your quarterback if I'm Carolina. Now here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has a no trade clause. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Russ has a no trade clause. We should try
Speaker 1: to figure that out. But Deshaun Watson, do you want
Speaker 1: to go to a team that is depleted to get you?
Speaker 1: I go back to Carmelo Anthony. Remember Melo wanted out
Speaker 1: to Denver, but he wanted to get signed to a
Speaker 1: long term contract and then traded. He goes to the Knicks,
Speaker 1: and then the Knicks got rid of their good players,
Speaker 1: and Melo goes to the Knicks and He's like, wait,
Speaker 1: where is everybody? Like Melo? You wanted to get traded
Speaker 1: and this is what happened. Now they had to give
Speaker 1: up people because you're a Hall of Fame. Do I
Speaker 1: want Russell Wilson at age thirty three not giving up
Speaker 1: that much? But with Deshaun Watson, I would? And if
Speaker 1: I'm Carolina and I have to give up Christian McCaffrey,
Speaker 1: and does Deshaun Watson go in there and go I
Speaker 1: could have stayed in Houston and had the same kind
Speaker 1: of team here, or I go to the Jets. They
Speaker 1: got to give up second pick overall, Sam Darnold, a
Speaker 1: few other players, a few other picks. You get there
Speaker 1: and you go, man, I got to be the savior here.
Speaker 1: And that's the other curiosity that I have. You may
Speaker 1: want out of a place, but where are you going
Speaker 1: to when you get there? And what are the expectation
Speaker 1: Like DeShawn Watson's expectation level is going to be through
Speaker 1: the roof if he goes to Miami or Carolina San Francisco,
Speaker 1: And if Russ would want out of Seattle, where he goes? Okay,
Speaker 1: you got out? Is this line any better than what
Speaker 1: you have in Seattle. Yeah, pauling a couple things of
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. After next season, there's an out for both
Speaker 1: of them. So if you're going to trade him, you
Speaker 1: who would have to do it? Now? He could leave
Speaker 1: or they could let him go. They owe him I
Speaker 1: think thirty three million dollars next year, So based off
Speaker 1: that logic, if if you think that thirty two and
Speaker 1: a lot of mileage, the should trade him if they
Speaker 1: got an offer for I don't think Russ is with
Speaker 1: the team after next season, but according to the contract,
Speaker 1: this may be the time to try. Yes, But I
Speaker 1: mean I truly understand that. You know, this is business. Now,
Speaker 1: if I'm Seattle, do I want to sign up Russ?
Speaker 1: And what's he going to cost me? At age thirty
Speaker 1: three with a new contract if they kick in the
Speaker 1: option that would keep him in twenty twenty two and
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three at thirty seven million and forty million, Okay,
Speaker 1: And that's a reasonable price for Russell Wilson. So maybe
Speaker 1: the next two years would be it in Seattle, because
Speaker 1: then I don't want to sign him for you know,
Speaker 1: the contract it's gonna be fifty million dollars. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: he does have a no trade. Okay, yeah, I just
Speaker 1: googled it. Okay, thank you. Yeah, the following quote was
Speaker 1: said two minutes ago on this side of the glass.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me who said it? Okay, Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: will never live up to a trade if someone pays
Speaker 1: four first round picks for him. Back to you, Dan
Speaker 1: Seaton O'Connor, There's no way DeShawn Watson's ever gonna be
Speaker 1: this good. It's just right now. He's like the well
Speaker 1: talented quarterback this league has ever seen since the last
Speaker 1: three guys. We just said that too. And he's he's
Speaker 1: he's great, He's really good. And I don't have very
Speaker 1: much to even base this on other than just seeing
Speaker 1: how hype usually plays out. But all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like, oh, yeah, he's gonna go to
Speaker 1: a new team. You're gonna sell the whole farm for him,
Speaker 1: and like, all right, here's your fourth first round draft choice,
Speaker 1: and then he's gonna be basically twenty eight and thirty
Speaker 1: one there too, and okay, he's twenty five. Though he's
Speaker 1: twenty five, I just don't know how much better the
Speaker 1: team is going to be that he's going to go
Speaker 1: to because if you say you're going to the Jets,
Speaker 1: all right, they're not better than the Texans. If he
Speaker 1: goes to the Dolphins, then they are better than the Texans. Carolina,
Speaker 1: they're not better than the Texans. They're probably going to
Speaker 1: be the same, if not slightly worse because they have
Speaker 1: to give up all of this capital to get him.
Speaker 1: Ye see, And it's it's kind of like it's not
Speaker 1: really a statement on him necessarily as a player, but
Speaker 1: the hype going into whatever this move is going to
Speaker 1: be is almost an instant failure unless they win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl next year. Other than that, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a huge failure. Yes, mcle I'll do a shower shame
Speaker 1: bet again, see it on this. I'll bet if he
Speaker 1: goes to either Carolina or Miami he's in a conference
Speaker 1: title game in four years. I'm sure of it. He's
Speaker 1: first of all, he's legit. But tech of all, Carolina
Speaker 1: is gonna be great. How do you know they're gonna
Speaker 1: be great? Matt rules the man, like, what are they
Speaker 1: give me up? Christian McCaffrey, They die to get out
Speaker 1: of that gud. Didn't you have a sharp shame on
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson before, Yes, did the number one pick overall? All? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know, okay, but I think I think those are
Speaker 1: better situations in Houston because the coaches, well, I like
Speaker 1: what yeah, I like what Carolina has there. Their owners,
Speaker 1: aggressive Matt Rule. I think has a chance to be
Speaker 1: a very very good coach in this league. But you're
Speaker 1: gonna give up all your draft picks. And if you
Speaker 1: give up, Christian McCaffrey, like, what are you gonna have
Speaker 1: there but our draft picks? I hate to say this,
Speaker 1: our draft picks the same as they used to be.
Speaker 1: Is the NFL going to become the NBA where nobody
Speaker 1: cares about first round picks? Like the Eagles? They have
Speaker 1: the they keep blowing their draft picks. Anyway, Paulie, would
Speaker 1: you check? I believe this is correct, but I've had
Speaker 1: some people who have brought this to my attention. When
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was with us a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: he always ends every interview with go Hawks. Always. Now,
Speaker 1: I have some very observant listeners and viewers that said
Speaker 1: they didn't think Russ said go Hawk. That's a strong
Speaker 1: accusation and it's not going to fly my watch, Dan,
Speaker 1: because Russell Wilson. As he was ending the thing, you
Speaker 1: said goodbye to him, and our board op brought him
Speaker 1: down and he went to go Hawks. You just hear
Speaker 1: go Hawks in the background. We will get the sound, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get the sound, just so I can clear this
Speaker 1: up because you have some people who were starting to
Speaker 1: look at this. As a journalist, I want to make sure, yes, see,
Speaker 1: those are people just looking for clicks, Dan, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are just deliberately putting out false information to get themselves clicks.
Speaker 1: To be fair, he did suggest that he could be
Speaker 1: traded and he would be on the open market, and
Speaker 1: he's christ seeks his team. But he did also say
Speaker 1: go Hawks. Okay, but we will confirm it next second. Okay, right?
Speaker 1: Uh twenty one after the art. So are we gonna
Speaker 1: go with the Deshaun wants? Why are you so upset?
Speaker 1: Russ doesn't need Russ needs blockers. He doesn't need defenders
Speaker 1: that I can't help with and I cannot help it.
Speaker 1: Ship JJ out there and tell the play a love
Speaker 1: McLevin and we're going with Yeah, do I have to
Speaker 1: I just say would you rather have Deshaun? Would you
Speaker 1: rather trade for Deshaun Watson or Russell Wilson, and it's
Speaker 1: implied that you have to give up a little more
Speaker 1: for Watson R. See give it a go. I have
Speaker 1: that other would you rather keep? You that I'll save.
Speaker 1: Then we'll wait, wait till after the break. Is that okay?
Speaker 1: It's a good one, all right, thank you? Twenty one
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Speaker 1: other pole question before we get to Sean Salisbury. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's another would you rather? Oh? Okay, a lot of
Speaker 1: Cam Newton chatter out there. If you had to trade
Speaker 1: for one quarterback, would it be Cam Newton or Sam Darnold,
Speaker 1: Sam Arnold, yeah, younger, Yeah, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Cam Newton is anymore. Now maybe I don't know
Speaker 1: what Sam Darnold is going to be. But I would
Speaker 1: rather take a risk on that. I mean, give me
Speaker 1: youth here, and I think Sam Darnold, if he went
Speaker 1: to another team, then you know, you might see what
Speaker 1: we saw at USC. Did we get the audio on
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson when the last time he was on Did
Speaker 1: he end the interview with go Hawks that Dan? Would
Speaker 1: that be slander or libel? Was it written? What was
Speaker 1: said about Russ? Was it verbal? Was it audio? I
Speaker 1: just want to know if he said go Hawks, because
Speaker 1: if he didn't, then maybe that's the breadcrumbs here that
Speaker 1: we need to follow that Russ wants out of Seattle.
Speaker 1: Here is the end of his appearance a couple weeks ago. Okay, hey, good,
Speaker 1: good to talk to you. Have a good offseason, and
Speaker 1: we'll stay in touch and tell your wife, I said alone, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll get see you man, love to see you later.
Speaker 1: But well, all right, you imagine could Russell started for
Speaker 1: Dartmus Okay, okay, we cut him off his so he
Speaker 1: did say go Hawks. Okay, you feel better, Paulie. I
Speaker 1: never was worried a concern. Okay, but America feels better.
Speaker 1: Do you think Russell Wilson Junior the third ends his
Speaker 1: career in Seattle? Absolutely not? Okay, I don't need him.
Speaker 1: All right, Let's bring in our favorite, Sean Salisbury, morning
Speaker 1: host of the Sean Salisbury Show on Sports Tuck seven
Speaker 1: ninety in Houston. Sean, what do you make of this
Speaker 1: chatter as they like to say that Russell Wilson is
Speaker 1: maybe available or on the market. Dan, First of all,
Speaker 1: it was great to be on with you. If when
Speaker 1: anybody talk about trading for me would have been for
Speaker 1: an apple in a road back, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Now we got three and four and five first riders.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Then you start to think about head coaches
Speaker 1: and quarterback and how they're tied to it, and when
Speaker 1: that starts to go sour Carson Wentz Doug Peterson, because
Speaker 1: they're tied together. When you're winning the head coach quarterback,
Speaker 1: everything's great, right, we're kicking butt, everything's good. Start to
Speaker 1: go south and everybody's like, well they're tied. So the
Speaker 1: coach starts to say, what's wrong with my quarterback? We
Speaker 1: saw it in the Rams with Golf and McVeigh and
Speaker 1: now and then Philly and possibly here, but not because
Speaker 1: the coach here in Houston. But with this Russ Wilson,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll than we've heard talk of a little bit
Speaker 1: of strife, and you know, and when that happens, you
Speaker 1: start to wonder. Three first, I think they'd be nuts. Dan.
Speaker 1: There's not a guy. I mean, when you talk about
Speaker 1: the three best not named Mahomes in the league that
Speaker 1: you get assets for today, Rogers, Watson, Wilson, why would
Speaker 1: you trade? Why would you trade the core of your franchise.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the guy that makes them go. Now
Speaker 1: they need some help. He's obviously can't get him to
Speaker 1: a super Bowl without some good defense and the rest
Speaker 1: of it. But I wouldn't even entertain it. That being said,
Speaker 1: we get guys now that are a little unhappy and
Speaker 1: things aren't going well. If somebody called me up, or
Speaker 1: if somebody said that Russ Wilson could be had for
Speaker 1: three number ones, and let's say Minnesota and New England
Speaker 1: wanted him offered three, If I was that team and
Speaker 1: I knew that they would give him away for three ones.
Speaker 1: I'd crawled ten miles over broken glass for that. I would.
Speaker 1: I think it's absurd why we're all this quarterback talk
Speaker 1: in the league that we want to give away the
Speaker 1: guy that you got to go find anyway. Seattle would
Speaker 1: be absolutely nuts. Now, if they're in a whole rebuilding phase, fine,
Speaker 1: you're not going to find a guy on the market
Speaker 1: right now that you're gonna get that's going to give
Speaker 1: you anywhere near the chance Russ Wilson does. Now, the
Speaker 1: Texans have said that DeShawn Watson's not available. The Seahawks
Speaker 1: haven't said anything about Russell Wilson, right, But it feels
Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson's going to be traded, and I don't
Speaker 1: think Russ is going to be traded by Seattle. What
Speaker 1: is if they're not taking offers? You know, it's weird
Speaker 1: that it's public that they're not taking offers, Like, how
Speaker 1: did it become public that they're not taking offers unless
Speaker 1: they want to continue to get offers? Dad? Right? And
Speaker 1: nothing's negotiable, right, Sure, it isn't. Right all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: somebody called him, say, how about five first rounders and
Speaker 1: a couple of starters. Well, okay, just all of a
Speaker 1: sudden became we're taking phone calls. Dad. It's going to
Speaker 1: be impossible for them while they may not be now
Speaker 1: you know, darn well when they're sitting in a room
Speaker 1: Cassario and the guy who apparently has all power in
Speaker 1: Jack Easterby and call McNair that they're saying, we may
Speaker 1: not be taking calls. But we got to start to
Speaker 1: consider that option because while I would not trade him,
Speaker 1: if I was at GM there, we would never been
Speaker 1: in this situation and I would exhaust every opportunity which
Speaker 1: they're not doing, to see exhaust to find out Jashun,
Speaker 1: let me hear you, what is your concern about this?
Speaker 1: Can it be fixed? And then I'd ask him me
Speaker 1: and can it be fixed? And until the point where
Speaker 1: I wore out the can it be fixed? Then yes,
Speaker 1: you have to field calls and Dan, that's going to
Speaker 1: become more urgent than not. Why because you've got to
Speaker 1: start to field those calls if you're going to trade him,
Speaker 1: and you're not going to play lying in the sand
Speaker 1: hardball before the draft, because you want to go draft
Speaker 1: the guys you want right with those assets that the
Speaker 1: Jets or the Dolphins are gonna give you. So while
Speaker 1: they may not be fielding calls, I'll guarantee you they're
Speaker 1: keeping a journal. This is my opinion of Okay, we
Speaker 1: know what's out there, so while they may not be now,
Speaker 1: it doesn't say they're never going to. And I still
Speaker 1: have to hear anybody pound the death saying don't call us.
Speaker 1: Watson's not available. Do you think he is? He traded
Speaker 1: before the start of the season, I would have said
Speaker 1: now for me, I wouldn't do it. Dan. The more
Speaker 1: I think about this, and the more that the length
Speaker 1: continues to lengthen out and there's no conversation and I
Speaker 1: don't know if if Collie can get to him or
Speaker 1: Nick Cassaro, I think this is deeper with the easterban
Speaker 1: Kal McNair thing, and as long as they're there there,
Speaker 1: I don't think Watson's coming back now I would I
Speaker 1: think you're nuts to trade him. But Dan, there's going
Speaker 1: to come a point of breaking point where the fracture
Speaker 1: turns into shattered glass, and I think you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to And if Deshaun just says he's not gonna do it,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can take the risk will
Speaker 1: wait until August to say, hey, we'll challenge him on this.
Speaker 1: And it's somebody's gonna offer you four ones and three players,
Speaker 1: you obviously have to consider it. And then that team's
Speaker 1: gonna have to feel the punch to the gut so
Speaker 1: bad that their franchise is gutted and they're in a
Speaker 1: rebuilding process and it's going to take them three or
Speaker 1: four years to win even with Watson. I wondered about this,
Speaker 1: and I don't have confirmation. I tried to find it
Speaker 1: out last night that the Bears weren't in on Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: They didn't even make an offer. Reportedly they need a quarterback.
Speaker 1: The Bears, to me, are a sneaky destination for DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 1: I know we talk about Carolina and we throw out
Speaker 1: the Jets, and if I'm the Bears, you missed him once,
Speaker 1: don't miss him again. And you got a chance to
Speaker 1: clean up after Mitchell Trubisky and you get the guy
Speaker 1: that you want or you should have taken in the beginning.
Speaker 1: And look, I don't have anything that would tell me
Speaker 1: this other than logic, and they did not make an
Speaker 1: offer for Carson Wentz, and Watson's better than Arson Wentstan
Speaker 1: and common sense. You're right, you don't have any insight
Speaker 1: of this, but common sense would say that's inside enough. Right,
Speaker 1: this would be the most gifted quarterback. And I couldn't
Speaker 1: agree with you more in Chicago's history. And it's not
Speaker 1: just based on potent potential. There's production with Watson as well.
Speaker 1: And he's twenty five and you got him under contracts
Speaker 1: for the next handful of years. There is no doubt, Dan.
Speaker 1: And here's what's interesting about the situation. What Watson brings
Speaker 1: instant I mean it instantly makes them a not only
Speaker 1: a viable threat in their division, but a viable threat
Speaker 1: all across the league and in the NFC, because now
Speaker 1: you've got a guy who doesn't have to load everybody
Speaker 1: on his back every single week, can carry the defense,
Speaker 1: it can get off the field. And you're right. When
Speaker 1: you missed out on a guy like this, you say, okay,
Speaker 1: And I'm with the Sean McVeagh approach. Dan, I don't
Speaker 1: care about winning the trades. I care about now Listen,
Speaker 1: am I sure that the eighteenth or nineteenth or twenty
Speaker 1: fourth or fifteenth pick of the draft is going to
Speaker 1: give me what Watson is no, I'm not. And the
Speaker 1: one thing, what are we always saying about the Bears?
Speaker 1: I'm talking about every here? Can I get a quarterback?
Speaker 1: Can we? And I do? I need to go down
Speaker 1: the list of them. Can we get a quarterback? Can
Speaker 1: we get a quarterbow? We got this and they've never
Speaker 1: had it. So if you've never had it, why don't
Speaker 1: you go do one thing that gives you a chance
Speaker 1: to get it. If you think you can get Watson,
Speaker 1: make them an offer they can't refuse, and give you
Speaker 1: the one thing you haven't had in decades that can
Speaker 1: Now you want a super Bowl with Mac, but great defense,
Speaker 1: all these things, and this guy, trust me, is not
Speaker 1: going to let you down as a quarterback. He's just not.
Speaker 1: And if the Chicago Bears were wise, they would actually
Speaker 1: fly beat down the door at Kirby here in Houston
Speaker 1: and try to beg them to listen to an offer.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt it's a sneaky and maybe Pittsburgh sneaky
Speaker 1: depending on the Ben Roethlisberger deadcap money. But if you're
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, I would think you'd want to be traded
Speaker 1: to a winner that gives you a chance to win
Speaker 1: immediately as opposed to have to go and rebuild in
Speaker 1: five years from now. Maybe not being a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: because you're playing for the Jets Chicago is a sneaky
Speaker 1: one to me, Dan, and shouldn't be sneaky. It should
Speaker 1: be about to settle. As a punch to the face
Speaker 1: if you're the Bears. Talking to Sean Salisbury, former NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: host of The Sean Salisbury Show in Houston, the Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott situation, you know, it's franchise tag day at least
Speaker 1: as started this here, and I wonder if Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: is going to roll the dice again and say, let
Speaker 1: me see what you got for one more year he
Speaker 1: coming back from you know, the ankle injury, and I
Speaker 1: can pay you decent money and then we can find
Speaker 1: out if we want to do a long term contract
Speaker 1: or franchise you again after that. But give me the
Speaker 1: logic with the Cowboys here with Dak Prescott, there is
Speaker 1: none in my opinion, And I love Jerry Jones, Dan,
Speaker 1: but this would have already been done. Listen, He's been
Speaker 1: until this year, and he's going to come back from
Speaker 1: this injury just fine, Dak. Will I promise you what
Speaker 1: more do you need to see. He wanted stats, he
Speaker 1: gave you stats. He is, he's I loved him when
Speaker 1: he came out. I thought he was. I think I
Speaker 1: had him as the second best player in at that
Speaker 1: position in the draft, and I think he fits off
Speaker 1: the field. He can make every throw, He's accurate, he's tough.
Speaker 1: His durability was beautiful until unfortunate injury this year. Dan.
Speaker 1: I would sign him. I wouldn't even mess with this
Speaker 1: because I always say this. I got a guy who
Speaker 1: believes a franchise quarterback. What's the other option? What's the
Speaker 1: other option? Okay, I like Andy Dalton, but stop, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's the option you want to go out? While Sam
Speaker 1: Darnold may end up being a star in this league? Well,
Speaker 1: I have that guy. Once again, I just don't understand.
Speaker 1: You work as a general manager, a coach, and a
Speaker 1: front officer, Jerry Jones, your whole career to find that guy.
Speaker 1: He got one with Troy Nikman. If you get a
Speaker 1: second one, and and Romo was a good player too.
Speaker 1: Not everybody can be the Packers of the forty nine ers.
Speaker 1: With those guys, you're lucky if you get one of them.
Speaker 1: And I just don't understand what you're looking for. The
Speaker 1: grass isn't greener. I got news for you. If Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott's back and playing on that team, they're a playoff team.
Speaker 1: And Dak Prescott is a top ten, top twelve quarterback
Speaker 1: in this league, top ten, I would pay him. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't even mess with it. But I think Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: I think he stumbled into something. He loves the game. No,
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Jones stumbled into something because let's say
Speaker 1: Dak comes back, he's not great. I haven't given him
Speaker 1: that long term contract. They go seven and nine, they
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs, they change their coach. You know, Jerry,
Speaker 1: this wasn't by design, right because you know they this.
Speaker 1: They could have done this two years ago and probably
Speaker 1: got him at a bargain. And but this is where
Speaker 1: we are right now, and Jerry Jones may go I
Speaker 1: didn't plan on this. But if Dak's not Dak and
Speaker 1: we were not great, then I don't have to pay him.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to get a new coach in here,
Speaker 1: and you know, we'll start it again. What if he
Speaker 1: is great, Dan, you know what he ends up. May
Speaker 1: if he let's say he's great, they go ten and
Speaker 1: six and but then you pay, but you pay, and
Speaker 1: then you pay him between Watson and Mahomes money, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna get forty five million dollars a year, right
Speaker 1: and guaranteed like eighty percent of it. Right, Yeah, So
Speaker 1: he and you're taking the risk like they all do.
Speaker 1: And Jerry's done that plenty of times. But Dan, I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking for the stability of a franchise and for
Speaker 1: what you want going forward. And a guy who's been
Speaker 1: a model citizen. Players love him, people love him. He's
Speaker 1: a competitor, he stuff and people say, well, he's not
Speaker 1: a numbers guy. Well I saw him thill for what
Speaker 1: five thousand yards? This is a really, really good player.
Speaker 1: And I always say, if this isn't one, what's my option?
Speaker 1: You want Cam Newton instead of Dak Prescott. I respect Cam,
Speaker 1: but no I don't. And you even I heard you
Speaker 1: guys talking about Darnald over Prescott. No, Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: that guy, and he may not be Mahomes. We always
Speaker 1: want to compare it by Mahomes. How many is there
Speaker 1: that's Mahomes? Okay, so stop it. The rest of them
Speaker 1: are guys that are falling into Place and the Watson
Speaker 1: and the Rogers, and if you can get that elite
Speaker 1: player who's a top seven, top eight player, you don't
Speaker 1: let him go, especially at the hardest position to find
Speaker 1: that guy, and that you've worked your whole life to
Speaker 1: get him. I love Dak Prescott, and I think the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys would be out of their frigging minds if
Speaker 1: they don't sign him to a long term deal, and
Speaker 1: if they want to, if they want to play with fire,
Speaker 1: watch him go through for five thousand yards and win
Speaker 1: ten or eleven games, and then he's gonna go crack
Speaker 1: him for about forty five mil. Can Cam Newton still
Speaker 1: be a starter? I think he can with a team
Speaker 1: dan that that doesn't have a solid starter and got
Speaker 1: to have a little luck, meaning you know, fully healthy,
Speaker 1: a place where there's a quarterback that's not stable. He's
Speaker 1: not going in and gonna beat out Carson Wentz. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna go beat out whoever, if it's Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: or somebody in New York or as a backup. That's debt.
Speaker 1: All depends on him. It all depends on where he
Speaker 1: had as a maturity in the league. Can he accept
Speaker 1: when that opportunity presents itself, then I'll be ready to
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. Or do you have to roll
Speaker 1: him in and say it's your job and tell you
Speaker 1: lose it or keep it. I would think that that's
Speaker 1: probably the latter, is the one that you'd go. You'd say, well,
Speaker 1: if he if it's even we'll start cam Newton. The
Speaker 1: key is, at what point in his career, with his
Speaker 1: body being up in a tremendous career, does he get
Speaker 1: to the point Dan where he says, I can accept this,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to stay ready to be the starter.
Speaker 1: If you are going to start him, it's a one
Speaker 1: year contract on a team that's probably not very good,
Speaker 1: and you're going to give him one more chance to say,
Speaker 1: go light it up and prove what you got for
Speaker 1: sixteen games. I think he's still a viable option, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a franchise guy that's going to
Speaker 1: make a huge difference in your franchise as a starter.
Speaker 1: Didn't you ever root for the starter to get injured
Speaker 1: when you were on the sidelines as to back up No, Dan,
Speaker 1: But I can tell you this, and it's and if
Speaker 1: people that aren't transparent about this, I was fortunate that
Speaker 1: I was in rooms with great guys and great players
Speaker 1: like Wade and Jim McMahon and Warren Moon and Rich
Speaker 1: Gann in that group wherever I was. Because you love
Speaker 1: there's nothing worse than hating the guy that your competing, right,
Speaker 1: I hate this guy you dropped back at practice. Now,
Speaker 1: McMahon never practiced. He would just make me do all
Speaker 1: the training camp and then knew he was going to start.
Speaker 1: He'd laugh, he'd be sweats on, he'd be laugh and say, hey, kid,
Speaker 1: get out there. My shoulders a little sore. Yeah, from
Speaker 1: Tilton to twelve ouncers, you clown. But I loved him
Speaker 1: before it. But Dan, I don't think you ever wished it.
Speaker 1: But it's human nature to say, you know, I'd love
Speaker 1: us to win this game. But man if if his
Speaker 1: shoulder had a little ten and itis, orf be through
Speaker 1: three picks and we still want it'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 1: But no, you don't root for that because you don't
Speaker 1: want that guy doing that to you. But human nature
Speaker 1: and competition says, well, it'd be kind of nice to
Speaker 1: you know, nothing serious. But man if that turf toe
Speaker 1: kicked in for two weeks, where I could go there
Speaker 1: and play. Did you know I want to go into
Speaker 1: a game? Let's see. Yes, I'll tell you a story.
Speaker 1: We're playing Cleveland Browns. It's my second year in the league.
Speaker 1: I'm with the Colts. We had won the division. We're
Speaker 1: at the Mistake by the Lake. Dan. It's freezing. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, I'm freezing. It's like zero degrees. I got
Speaker 1: that big Jack at all with a hoodie and I think.
Speaker 1: It's my second year in the league. I hadn't played much.
Speaker 1: I'm like and Jack Trudeau was a good player. Was in.
Speaker 1: I get on with Greg bran Or, our quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: I get on a headset with him. I said, we're
Speaker 1: getting our butt handed to us by Cleveland in a
Speaker 1: playoff game, first round, and you're gonna love this. And
Speaker 1: I'll try to go quick. I know you got a break.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sitting there and it's about four or
Speaker 1: five minutes to go in the game, and Greg Bryan said, man,
Speaker 1: Brian's I don't want to go in this game. Man,
Speaker 1: We're getting our butt kicked. It's too cold, and take
Speaker 1: me an hour and then you get like four warm
Speaker 1: up tosses. No sooner do I say that. Jack Trudeau
Speaker 1: gets destroyed in the pocket. So I gotta go in
Speaker 1: and I got my hair, I got my nice mullet
Speaker 1: working for TV. I warm up like five throws. I'm
Speaker 1: twenty four, twenty five years old, twenty three, so I
Speaker 1: mean I'm ready to go. I go out there. We
Speaker 1: hit a few throws and then I call an audible
Speaker 1: like an idiot at the line of scrimmage, and Billy
Speaker 1: Brooks couldn't hear it. I throw a curl route, he
Speaker 1: runs a corner. Frank Minnifield picks it off. Dan starts
Speaker 1: working his way down down and Don Krickey and Bob
Speaker 1: Trump you are on the call. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you why I say that. So Minnifield's working his way.
Speaker 1: Then Mini's about five seven and one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: five pounds, strip and wet and a pro bowl stud.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking to myself literally as I'm working there,
Speaker 1: somebody tackle him. Somebody tackle him. Man about the three
Speaker 1: yard line, nobody's tackled his assid I'm the one who's
Speaker 1: got to jump in there. So what's he do? I'm
Speaker 1: standing straight up. He puts his helmet between number my
Speaker 1: one and three drives me into the end zone and
Speaker 1: Cabbage patches over me and they score again. Well, I
Speaker 1: gotta come back out for the next series. So the
Speaker 1: day later, I'm back in Indianapolis, seasons over. I'm walking
Speaker 1: through the mall. I go into a foot locker at
Speaker 1: Christmas gifts to take home on that TV. You know,
Speaker 1: on foot locker they used to run highlights and Dan,
Speaker 1: I promise you. I walk in there and I hear
Speaker 1: Bob Trump. He's saying it's intercepted Salisbury. I mean they're talking.
Speaker 1: The second I walk in, it shows me getting cabbage
Speaker 1: patched on by Frank Minnifield. So right then and there,
Speaker 1: so yes, Dan, at that point in time, I said, hell, no,
Speaker 1: I got I got you, Paul. You got Sean Stads
Speaker 1: in that Browns game. Yeah, he was one for six
Speaker 1: with fifteen yards in a pick. Yes, yes, And if
Speaker 1: we hit one, I missed one down the middle lot
Speaker 1: of cold to Albert Bentley and I was I didn't
Speaker 1: fall out till and then you go into Cleveland locker
Speaker 1: room and the shower waters up to your thigh. Three
Speaker 1: guys into one locker, you know, there's the old school
Speaker 1: one and I loved it. But yeah, Dan, It was
Speaker 1: one of those where I'm like, I knew going in
Speaker 1: that this isn't where I wanted to be. And then
Speaker 1: I'll be damned if I'm not walking through the mall
Speaker 1: and I'll Bob Trump, He and Don Chris you're telling
Speaker 1: me and that's the one play we see and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm done, I'm out, let me out of all of it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, but I never rooted for a guy to
Speaker 1: get hurt. You usually root for your partner. But you
Speaker 1: didn't have a problem if every now and then you
Speaker 1: could get in in the third quarter to make a
Speaker 1: few throws, unless it's a playoff game against Cleveland where
Speaker 1: you throw a pick and Don Criky tells you about
Speaker 1: it and Bob Trumpy. That was a bad day, Dan,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Bud. I appreciate it. Talk good to talk.
Speaker 1: Sean Salisbury feel like I'm a therapist. Sometimes I'll just
Speaker 1: let it out, Host of the Sean Salisbury Show on
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