1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg Sound On. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: We're on the timeline for two things. For sure, that 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: is the detloment and also, but stropably been seduced by 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: the notion that we can get off fossil fuels much 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: quicker than it can happen. Floomberg Sound On, Politics, Policy 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: and Perspective from DC's top names fighting was knowledgeable about 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: the issues around affordable housing. Has anybody up there been 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: around excess government spending always causes inflation? Inflation purchased the 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: chorus families in this country. Bloomberg Sound On with Joe 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. They still have not called the 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: race in New Jersey between Democratic Governor Phil Murphy and 12 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: Republican Jackie A. Relli. Well, I wonder if they will 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: during this fastest hour in politics. Welcome to the day 14 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: after Terry mccaulliff has formerly conceded to Republican Glen youngcan 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: in Virginia and as I read on the terminal, Democrats 16 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: get harsh wake up calls from Virginia and New Jersey. Yes, 17 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: the call coming from inside the house. We'll get into 18 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: it in just a moment. With Congressman Morgan Griffith, Republican 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: from southwestern Virginia, looking very red this morning and very 20 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: happy about Glen Yonkan. Later we'll talk to Jim Moran, 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: former Democratic congressman from northern Virginia, and we have a 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: lot to discuss with our panel. Good thing we have 23 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributors Genie Schanzano and Rick Davis along for 24 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,279 Speaker 1: the hour. The headlines a bit tough today, Washington Post 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: races leave Democrats reeling. CNN Biden arrives back in d 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: C to a nightmare the Drudge Report, Dark Night of 27 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: the DEM's pretty heavy duty. As you just heard live 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: in the last hour here on Bloomberg Radio, President Biden 29 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: was asked about this race, the cause and effects, as 30 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: he addressed reporters at the White House, take some responsibility, 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: and do you think that Terry McAuliffe would have won 32 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: if you're agenda had passed before election day? Well? Uh, 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: I think we should have should have passed before election day, 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that I would be able to 35 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: have changed the number of very conservative folks who turned 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: out and the red districts who were Trump voters. But 37 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: maybe maybe No, I know we did, but I we'd 38 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: also I was running against Donald Trump. Yeah, she said, 39 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: you ran. You won by ten points last time. Now, 40 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: this came after a night that Terry McAuliffe and Glenn 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: young Can may not have even expected even a month ago. 42 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to thank all of you from 43 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: what you have meant to us. I look around this 44 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: room and I see so many friends we've worked in 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: for many years. This is a different state and friends, 46 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: we are going to start that transformation on date. Heard 47 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: that a couple of times today, haven't you. Mccaulloff officially 48 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: conceded this morning. I'm guessing Glenn Youngcan has not slept 49 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: yet as the news sinks in that he actually won 50 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: for investing millions of dollars, incidentally of his own money 51 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: into his campaign. He turned the electoral map almost all read. 52 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: And one of the strongest areas for Glenn Uncan lies 53 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: in Virginia's ninth congressional districts, southwestern Virginia, and that's where 54 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: we find Representative Howard Griffith, Congressman. Welcome to Bloomberg. It's 55 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: great for you to be here. You were once the 56 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: majority leader of your state's House of Delicates. Were. By 57 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: the way, Republicans also made big strides last night. Did 58 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: the political landscape in Virginia shift to the right in 59 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: this election? Well, I think it clearly woke a lot 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: of people up, the federal policies that are going on, 61 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: the national trends of the Democrat Party. I definitely woke 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people up that they needed to get 63 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: out and vote if they wanted to make sure that 64 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: that we didn't become a California of the East. And 65 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: they showed up in larger numbers than they did percentagewise, 66 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: at least I had looked at the raw data. But 67 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: even then then for Trump we got eight seven in 68 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: one county eighty six and another county. Uh, they were 69 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: fired up, they were ready to go. But but we 70 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't under under estimate the fact that Glenn Juncan worked 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: extremely hard and he was in those counties repeatedly throughout 72 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: the campaign where most candidates in the past have written 73 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: them off because they vote Republican, but they don't always 74 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: turn out in the numbers they turned out in yesterday. 75 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: We had record breaking for an off year election, record 76 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: breaking numbers and it was it was magnificent. You must 77 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: not Terry mccolluff, he's already the governor once. What did 78 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: he not understand about southwestern Virginia or any area outside 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: of the progressive suburbs in your state. Well, I think 80 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: there were a couple of things that that he missed. 81 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know why he 82 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: didn't understand that he was out of touch with parents, 83 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: but he clearly was is um so, you had the 84 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: national policies and for example, four of my sheriff's switched 85 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: parties and became Republicans, three were Democrats, one was an independent. 86 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: Um so, the national policy on on defunding the police 87 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: was a big, big issue. Education was a big issue. 88 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: Terry mccaff never got it, and in fairness, he he 89 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: just didn't really work southwest Virginia at all. So he 90 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: had one candidate who was down there saying, I need 91 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: your help, we need you to be there force we 92 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: can win this race, and another candidate who buying large 93 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: outside of the interstate any one corridor was absent. It 94 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: sounds to me that just blaming President Biden and his 95 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: economic agenda is really not the whole reason why Terry 96 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: mcculloff lost. In your eyes, well, The way I look 97 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: at it is is that there was a twelve point swing. 98 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: Ten points of it was the economic policies and the 99 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: general policies of President Biden. The last two points was 100 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: just Terry mccaff being tongue deaf to parents matter and 101 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: parents care, and you just can't say, oh, you shouldn't 102 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: worry about it. Uh. He needed a better answer than that. 103 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Even on Sunday he was still saying the same basic 104 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: things and trying to make it out to be a racist. 105 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: And if I got another second, let me talk about that, 106 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: because you know, we elected wins some sears, a black 107 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: immigrant to lieutenant governor because for conservative ays and Jason 108 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: Meyres Republican straight down the ballot. Yeah, but but he's 109 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: also Hispanic individual. But you know, Terry mccaugh kept calling 110 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: us racist, and we had the most diverse ticket ever, 111 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: and the conservatives voted for people who were conservative, and 112 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 1: you got to stay right down the right down the line, 113 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: no matter what color they were. The conservatives voted for conservatives. Well, 114 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: what Congressmen would have happened if, say, infrastructure and even reconciliation, 115 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: let's say the whole Biden agenda passed Congress. You're a 116 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: member of Congress. You understand this debate very well. And 117 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: we keep hearing, we kept hearing over and over again. 118 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: If something had simply gotten done, this might have gone differently. 119 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: Would that have made a difference. If if the agenda 120 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: passed Congress, it would have made a difference. So Glen 121 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: Youngan would have won by five. He had a feeling 122 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: you'd say that, so people, that's what I believe would 123 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: have happened. It sounds to me talking with you, that 124 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: people don't have a good sense of exactly what the 125 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: conversation is at the table in southwestern Virginia. Well, certainly 126 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: Washington d C. Didn't know what people are talking about 127 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: in southwest Virginia. I mean they double van today. They're 128 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: now adding in raising the state and local tax deduction. 129 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: My district is four second at four thirty five and 130 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: median household income. And they want us to underwrite the 131 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: fat cats in New York City, UH and San Francisco 132 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: for their real estate taxes which are high because that's 133 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: what they chose. Why should my folks have to pay 134 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: for that? You know there are some uh, there are 135 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: some some police and firefighters living in New Jersey, who 136 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: might phrase that a little bit differently. But how about that, Congressman, 137 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: since you brought it up, how about a carve out. 138 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe this shouldn't be just a one size fits 139 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: all policy, Nash only. How about those states get a 140 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: deduction and you left the rest of the country deal 141 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: with the tax codes they have. Well, if if the 142 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: states had a better tax system, if the local governments 143 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: had lower taxes, you wouldn't have this problem. The problem 144 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: is that the state and the local taxes are so 145 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: high in New York and in New Jersey and some 146 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: of the other areas California that that people feel oppressed. Well, 147 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: what they ought to do is they ought to feel 148 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: that oppression and go to their local government and have 149 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: them change their policies instead of making people in rural 150 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: Virginia have to pay so that they can have those 151 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: high taxes in New York and New Jersey and California. 152 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: We're talking with Congressman Morgan Griffith, Republican from Virginia on 153 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: sound On more broadly here the thirty thousand foot view. Congressman, 154 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: is it seems like we're getting we're getting an even 155 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: greater disconnect between the rural areas of this country and 156 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the cities when it comes to the issues that matter 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: to families. Do you feel further apart from Washington the never. 158 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: I do think that's a fair assessment. Um, And we're 159 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna as a nation we need to try to figure 160 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: out uh, and to have some understanding both ways. But 161 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: but absolutely, I will tell you the people in my 162 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: district feel like they're not heard by the folks in 163 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: the big cities or in the capital of the United 164 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: States in most cases. Uh. And that's why I'm speaking 165 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: up for them. Do you feel like you have a 166 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: friend in Joe Mansion. Well, Joe Mansion represents an area 167 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: that's very similar to mine, and he understand he he 168 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 1: actually understands. I don't always agree with him, but he 169 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: actually at least understands what the issues are for people 170 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: in this part of the world. Well, I'll ask you, then, Congressman, 171 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: just to extend this conversation. I hope they're not coming 172 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: to get you. I hear the sirens. They're not very good. 173 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: But I do wonder to be outside because I knew 174 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I was gonna get political. We don't want to start 175 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: any fights that that Well, Gosh, God from wherever you are. UM, 176 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 1: what what's the future then for the Republican strategy in 177 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: the mid terms. Did Glenn youngcan just find it? Does 178 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: he have the recipe to beat Democrats nationwide? He has 179 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: part of it. I mean, obviously there's always going to 180 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: be some local uh tent to the discussion, but he's 181 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: certainly found a big part of it. People want to 182 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: be safe. People want to be a secure in there 183 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: and knowing that they can have some input into their 184 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: children's education. I think we we saw, you know last 185 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: night across the board, folks don't want the fund, don't 186 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: want the police defunded. UM. You know, so people want 187 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: to be safe. They want to be safe in their communities, 188 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: and they want to know that they're going to be 189 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: involved in their children's education. And if you want to 190 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: cut the people out, then they're going to cut you 191 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: out of office. Congress from Morgan Griffith, we thank you 192 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: for joining US Republican from Virginia, Southwestern Virginia, New River Valley, 193 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: the Virginia side of the Tri Cities. Used to be 194 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: majority leader of the Virginia House of Delegates, and we 195 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: get to hear from a Democrat now who knows Virginia 196 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: and Terry McCullough very well, And that would be former 197 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: Congressman Jim Moran, the Democrat from northern Virginia, Alexandria, Arlington 198 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: County Falls Church, longtime member of the Appropriations Committee. And 199 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: it's great to have you, Congressman. Uh, what do you 200 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: think about the outcome here? You've had a couple of 201 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: hours to process all this. What what Terry mccaulliff did 202 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: wrong or is it about what Glenn Youngcan did right 203 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: in Virginia. It's both, of course, And I'm glad to 204 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: be on with my friend Morgan. I he may have 205 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: left at this point, but he's a good man. I 206 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: don't think he could ever be defeated. He drives so 207 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: like six hours or something every weekend to make sure 208 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: that he spends the vast majority of his time with 209 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: his constituents. He knows his constituency, knows the state, and 210 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: he's a good guy. Well, he did a great job 211 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: framing that part of your state. Help us understand your 212 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: part of the state, the progressive suburbs of Washington. Yeah, yeah, 213 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: but uh, even though we're quite different, it's a much 214 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: more affluent part of the state. Northern Virginia, UH, more jobs. UH. 215 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: Generally people have access to better education. Most have a 216 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: somewhat higher education in terms of college and post grad UH. 217 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: But they still want the same thing. UH. Maybe not 218 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: do when they're living in apartments in the city, but 219 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: when they have kids and they go to suburbs. There 220 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: are three things they want. It's just what Morgan said. 221 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: First of all, they want to be able to live 222 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: in a safe community. They don't want the police be funded. 223 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: They need the police, and especially in minority communities, they 224 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: depend upon the police. Secondly, they want good schools, good 225 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: schools that uh that are going to prepare their children 226 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: for a better life than they have. They need to 227 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: rely upon their teachers, their school board and UH and 228 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: to know that their schools are well funded. And thirdly, 229 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: they want a responsive government, a government that gets it, 230 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: that understands them, that shares their values and UH. And 231 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: I think that the Democratic Party has uh has given 232 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: the impression through some of these uh, you know, co 233 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: words and and positions that that someone particularly on far left, 234 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: have taken that UH, we're not as concerned about safe neighborhoods. UH. 235 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: And the defunded police effort, particularly in those school systems 236 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: where they took out the school resource officers, some of 237 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: them to reinstate them. Uh. So did Terry McCollums spend 238 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: too much time up north like Morgan Griffith said, Uh, well, 239 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: the north is where the most of the population is 240 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: and it's where the money is. Uh. In terms of education, 241 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: Terry talked about, uh, give putting more money into the 242 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: educational system, but that's not what people were most concerned about. 243 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: But one thing they needed the teachers to teach. And 244 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: there are too many students that have gone for eighteen 245 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: months without being taught. Uh. And many of them are 246 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: not computer savvy. They don't have access to computers or 247 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: even uh parents who have the time to be able 248 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: to read to them. And UH, you know, if you 249 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: lose basically two years of school and you're not going 250 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: to be marketable in the modern economy. And their parents 251 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: know that. Uh. And uh that's one of the reasons 252 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: I was looking at the numbers. Uh. The almost three 253 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: quarters of non college educated white women voted for Glenn Ynton. 254 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: The majority had voted for for Joe Biden just last year. 255 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: But I suspect many of them are concerned that their 256 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: kids are not getting the education they deserved or the 257 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: education they don't want. I guess we heard a lot 258 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: about critical at about gender and bathrooms. Oh, I know. 259 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: And you know the thing about this transgendered what he 260 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: called himself Jim da fluid UH guy that uh raped 261 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: one girl in one high school. It wasn't reported to polices. 262 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: That should have been, but the Democratic legislature was concerned 263 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: about what they call a pipeline to prison, and so 264 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: they said, you don't have to report these crimes. But 265 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: then he goes to another school and rapes another girl, 266 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: and the father who raised hotly hectic for the school board, 267 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: he gets behind bars, charged with a felony for disruption. 268 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: When this, when this self identified jimder fluid kid had 269 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: been able to commit two crimes against two different girls, 270 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: when people changed their minds so radically, it's because they 271 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: it's because of stories that they can relate to, and 272 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: the stories that went through Loudon County, which a large, 273 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: populous county. It's the most affluent in the country, one 274 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: of the best educated. Uh. They were outraged at what 275 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: was going on in this school system, and and they 276 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: blamed the Democrats and somewhat rightfully So now, Terry mccolluffe, 277 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: you know he uh he was he aligned himself with 278 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: the Teachers Union and and uh feeling that they represent 279 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: the teachers. I don't think necessarily they do. But I 280 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: don't think they represented them very well. I really think 281 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: teachers were not the Uh they were not the heroes 282 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: of the pandemic. I think they let many of our 283 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: children down. They shood they were the first to get vaccinated. 284 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: They didn't want to find a way to educate kids. 285 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: But you know, Terry, listen to this conversation we're having, Congressman. 286 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: This is I mean, I got a couple of years ago. 287 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: You couldn't have imagined this conversation when you when you 288 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: decided to leave Washington, to leave Congress a couple of 289 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: years ago. Uh, that was a pivotal moment for the 290 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: Democratic Party, certainly locally here in the Washington area. Has 291 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: has the party become too woke? Has the party moved 292 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: too far in one direction since you left it to 293 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: be something different? I think the Uh, some of the 294 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: people who are in the safest seats, who often sometimes 295 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: their minority seats are they're they're very liberal constituencies. They're 296 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: tend to be urban oriented. I think some of them 297 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: have been pushing the envelope just a little too far, 298 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: too fast. Uh. And and a lot of them are 299 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, they're young kids that you know, they don't 300 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: have to worry about paying a mortgage. They're not as 301 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: concerned about uh. You know, the things that I talked 302 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 1: about are at taxes. Uh, you know, kids, education, the 303 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: safe communities. Uh. They get they get into these cultural issues, 304 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: and you know, they want to insist that people after 305 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: their signature, they put down him his or her hers 306 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: or whatever. Uh. They they want to protect people who uh, 307 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: you know, have have historically been discriminated against. But sometimes 308 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: they do it in ways that you know, are not 309 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: necessarily constructive or accable to the majority Congressman. I'm sorry 310 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: that I'm sorry, I'm out of time. This is this 311 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: has been a wild conversation. I never thought I would 312 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: have this conversation with Jim iran former Virginia congressman and 313 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: uh in, a long time fixture in northern Virginia. Here 314 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: his take on what may or may not have happened 315 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours. Let's assemble the panel. 316 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: I need to learn something from Rick and Genie Bloomberg, 317 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Politics and Tributors, Jeanie Shenzano, and Rick Davis. I don't 318 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: even know where I am at this point. Genie, that 319 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: was a that was quite a review of the Democratic 320 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: Party on election. That that was. And Joe, I don't 321 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: know how you're still standing, but God bless you, you 322 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: are here going on adrenaline. Um. That definitely hallucinating after 323 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: it is, you know, it is fascinating to listen to 324 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: both both the congress congressman and the former congressman, and 325 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think they make similar points, which is 326 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: something that we've been talking about, which is that mcculloff 327 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: really tried to nationalize this race and came off to 328 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: many voters, not all, but many voters being a bit 329 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: tone deaf to the issues that they're dealing with right now, 330 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: whereas Glenn Yuncan was able to localize it and focus 331 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: on what matters to people in the moment. And I 332 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: think this is something we're hearing about Congress, the Democrats 333 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: and Congress as well. They're not addressing or talking about 334 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: the issues people are going through right now, and so 335 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of residents there and I 336 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: think it's a huge moment for the Democrats to hopefully 337 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: like pay attention and to be able to adjust to 338 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: what they learned last night. Am I allowed to say 339 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: that Rick called the race in Virginia? I think you 340 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: even I think you nailed it, Rick, for starters, I'm 341 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: going to give you credit for that. And I just 342 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: wonder from Virginia to New Jersey, which still has not 343 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: been called this this sort of hangover, this let down 344 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party. When you're looking at the results 345 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: from a year ago, are you going to attribute this 346 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: to the to the Biden agenda, the lack of progress, 347 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: the wokesm in the Democratic Party. Where's your head right now? Yeah? 348 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: I think Congre Sin Griffith was was probably right, right, 349 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, like the twelve point swing since Biden won 350 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: the state a year ago that disappeared, uh this year 351 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: is probably attributable mostly to the Democrats, right, I mean 352 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: they if if if youngn won the campaign, the Democrats 353 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: were the primary contributing factor behind it, and and and 354 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: I think that because when you look at his results 355 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: in Virginia and Ciarelli's results in New Jersey, there you 356 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: can't explain why they're so similar. Right where Uh, suburban 357 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: voters in Bergen County in New Jersey and northern Virginia 358 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: voted for the Republican really since the first time since 359 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: since two thousand and fourteen, because they weren't Trump supporters 360 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen and and not since then. 361 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: So so chuck one up for the Democrats. You keep 362 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: doing the good work you're doing, and the Republican Party 363 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: will be nice and healthy in what do you say 364 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: to that there's still an agenda that's on the table 365 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: that it could actually be passed, and Morgan Griffith says 366 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: it would have been five points more for Glenn Youngcan 367 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: if that had been the case. Yeah, first of all, 368 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: I have to say congratulations to Rick. I owe him 369 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: a dinner now or something. I think that was the Yeah, yeah, 370 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: I you know, listen, Joe, it's been a hard it's 371 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: been a hard twenty four hours. But you know, I 372 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: I do think that this um. You know, it's important 373 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: to look at New Jersey in particular, where Biden was 374 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: up sixteen and you know, a lot of people aren't 375 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: familiar with some of the local leaders, but the Senate President, 376 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: Steve Sweeney has you know, one of the most powerful 377 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: people in the state for many years. He is on 378 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: the verge of losing to a truck driver who spent 379 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: one and fifty three dollars on his campaign. I mean, 380 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: that is the state, and I think that tells you 381 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: this was about sending a message. I believe to the 382 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: Democratic Party that they are not listening to people on 383 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: the ground, and you had a very energized Republican base 384 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: and moderate's an independence in both states trying to send 385 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: that message. I also think that when you tell voters 386 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: that their vote is going to send a message to Washington, 387 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: d C. They take heed of that. And I think 388 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: that's what many voters did. They wanted to vote and 389 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: send a message. Because when you're voting for this New 390 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: Jersey truck driver Eddr, this means you're trying to send 391 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: a message. Morgan Griffith also said Rick that Terry Moran 392 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: never came down, He just wasn't present and Glen Youngan 393 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: did a better job traffling the state. Is that a 394 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: fair assessment. Yeah, Look, politics matters. Campaigns matter on the margins, right. 395 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: I mean, when I look at the underlying turnout in 396 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: Virginia's election, you had forty municipalities and counties that performed 397 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: on turnout between sixty and seventy percent higher than in 398 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen for Republicans and two for the Democrats. 399 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean Democrats didn't show up. They were not motivated, 400 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: they're not excited. Why the Democratic leadership and con gris 401 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 1: aren't sitting down today and saying whatever we were selling 402 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: to our constituents, we've been kidning ourselves. They aren't. They 403 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: aren't ready to be motivated by what we're saying and 404 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: doing to actually turn out for an election and defend 405 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: our priorities. So I think there's really underlying fundamental issues 406 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: here when you have that flat of a turnout in 407 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: what has become a very nationalized election in the last 408 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: few weeks. Would it have mattered if it was a 409 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: different Democrat running Genie or did Glenn young Can find 410 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: the recipe? You know? I think you know he was 411 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: a retread McCullough is that's not a good thing. But 412 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: I think young Can ran a great race, and I 413 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: think they were sending a message to Democrats, get with 414 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: it and listen to what's going on in our lives 415 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: and address it. The headline on the terminal, Biden says 416 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Virginia election defeat shows urgency of his agenda, and you 417 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: could look at it that way. We did hear from 418 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: President Biden just about an hour ago. You heard the 419 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: comments live on Bloomberg Radio and interesting or was it 420 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: the other way around? As we heard from the Congressman 421 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: Morgan Griffith at the top of the hour, would passing 422 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: infrastructure and reconciliation have made it even worse for Terry 423 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: McAuliffe in Virginia. Mark Roselle joins as the dean of 424 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: the Shar School of Policy and Government at George Mason University. Mark, 425 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: thanks for being here. What do you think about that proposition? 426 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: And to what extent are we overdoing the impact of 427 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: whatever is happening on Capitol Hill, the Biden economic agenda 428 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: and so forth, versus local issues, some of the cultural 429 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: issues that we've been talking about determining the outcome last 430 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: night in Virginia. And I'm glad you put it that 431 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: way because oftentimes the state and local elections are portrayed 432 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: as having much larger impacts on the national political scene 433 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: than they really do. And if you look at the 434 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: Virginia race, for example, so much of the focus was 435 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: on local public school education issues or the Republican Canada 436 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: Glenn Young and talking about eliminating the gasoline tax or 437 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: eliminating the grocery tax. Uh. He was really focused on 438 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: sort of bread and butter issues that people care about 439 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: in their daily lives. And whereas Terry mccaull if, the 440 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: Democratic nominee, was bringing in national political figures one after 441 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: another to motivate the Democratic base, and he was focusing 442 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: on sort of the bigger national issues that play. Yeah, 443 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: talking about Trump all the time. He was. He was 444 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: trying to portray Glenn Youcan as a Trump acolyte, hoping 445 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: that the formula that succeeded for Democrats in Virginia the 446 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: previous four years when Trump was in office would continue. 447 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: But Trump is a diminished figure right now. He's not 448 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: a threat. And the voters who were really not focused 449 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: on pro or anti Trump, they were focused on really 450 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: core issues that matter to them. So you're suggesting, Mark, 451 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong that another Democrat or a 452 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: different campaign actually could have beat Glenn Yuncan in Virginia. 453 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely right. I think if the mccaulloff 454 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: campaign had put forth a much more positive message about 455 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: what the former governor had achieved, He had a real 456 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: record that he could point to, and what he would 457 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: do as governor for the next four years, and why 458 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: it would matter to Virginians to elect him instead of 459 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: Glenn Yuncan. I think that could have been a winning formula. Um. 460 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Glenn Yuncan was very effective in capturing the Trump loyal 461 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: base in the Republican Party and independent swing voters, and 462 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: he largely did that by doing the classic pivot in 463 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: Republican politics. He ran to the right to get the nomination, 464 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: he moved to the center or center right during the 465 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: general election campaign, and while Terry mccauliffe was characterizing him 466 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: as Trump like, Glenn Younkin didn't really have to say 467 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: much himself during a general election campaign to assure the 468 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: Trump voters that he is their man. He could focus 469 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: on other issues in the campaign, which ultimately worked very 470 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: well for him. All right, let's get to New Jersey. 471 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: I want to hear your take on that governor's race 472 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: as well. And the sound of uncertainty here from Governor 473 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: Murphy and Jack Chitarelli. And so listen, sometime real soon, 474 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this again like we're doing it right now, 475 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: and we will declare victory. But we're gonna have to 476 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: wait a little while longer than we had hoped. We're 477 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna wait for every vote to be counted. And that's 478 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: how our democracy works. That's right when we're still here 479 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: five thirty five Eastern time, waiting for somebody to ring 480 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: the bell and call this thing. Uh boy, you know, 481 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: in terms of relative strength and even bigger disappointment if 482 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: you if you think of it this way, Joe Biden 483 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: won New Jersey by sixteen points, not the ten in Virginia. 484 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: And here you find the governor here who was up 485 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: low double digits, uh not that long ago, mark dead 486 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: even with the republic, and who was expected to lose. 487 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: And this is what should send shock waves through the 488 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 1: Democratic Party establishment, because these were two elections where the 489 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: party was set up clearly early on to win, and 490 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: they did not in one case and probably barely did 491 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: so in the other. But this was supposed to be 492 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: a better democratic year than it turned out to be. 493 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: But the national political context, of course, did have some 494 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: impact on these races. Joe Biden's declining popularity, what happened 495 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan on the border and the general perception among 496 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: the public that the Democrats in Washington just can't get 497 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: things done. I think that severely hurt the Democratic brand. 498 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: As far as what's happening right now, though, Mark in 499 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey, do you still expect the governor to win 500 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: once all the mailings are counted? I do, Um, And 501 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, I have to say that with some caution. 502 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll be surprised. But I've been following what many 503 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: of the very reliable nonpartisan analysts have been saying and 504 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: looking at the numbers, and I think they're ready to 505 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: call it for Governor Murphy at this point. Kind of 506 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: amazing they haven't yet, To be honest with you, what's 507 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: been the lesson in New Jersey. That was a very 508 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: different race than the one we saw in Virginia. It 509 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: wasn't bogged down with a lot of the cultural issues. 510 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: They were actually talking about old fashioned stuff like taxes, right. 511 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: And you had an incumbent governor who was saying, you know, 512 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm not your man if if that's your issueum, and 513 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: the Republican challenger saying that he was going to lower 514 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: taxes in a traditionally high tax state. And I think 515 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: that mattered. And you know that happened in Virginia as well. 516 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: You had the gubernatorial nominee talking about getting rid of 517 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: the grocery tax, which that's not a Republican issue, that's 518 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: something that a lot of people agree with, and inflation 519 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: is a democratic problem, Mark Rosell in our last minute. 520 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: Then look ahead over the course of the next year. 521 00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Does Glenn young Can have the roadmap that Republicans should 522 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: follow or did Terry mccaulliff just teach Democrats how not 523 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: to do it. I think it's a little of both, 524 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: But I think Youngcan really does have the roadmap in 525 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: a sense. He has shown that it's possible to be 526 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: a Trump endorsed candidate to say that he accepts that 527 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: endorsement but then focus on bread and butter Republican Party 528 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: issues such as crime, public safety, jobs in the economy, taxes, 529 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: issues where Republicans traditionally have done well, and run on 530 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: a campaign that's more issue focused, as he did. Ultimately, 531 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy says Republicans can pick up over sixty seats 532 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: in the mid term. Do you think he's right, Well, 533 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: that that might be a stretch, but let's just say 534 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: if the election were held for the mid terms last 535 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: night that probably would have happened. What will happen to here? 536 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: From now? We'll stay in touch with us, Mark rosel 537 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad to speak with you. Appreciate your insights. Dean 538 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: of the Shar School of Policy and Government at George 539 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: Mason University, Mark Roselle brings us to school on sound on. 540 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg You sound on with Joe Matthew 541 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. The result from Virginia and lack of results, 542 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: I guess we should say from New Jersey certainly at 543 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: people talking on both sides of the aisle. Here in Washington, 544 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: the mid terms are officially underway, and we reassemble the 545 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: best panel in the business to talk about it. Bloomberg 546 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: Politics contributors Jeanie Shenzano and Rick Davis are with us. Now. 547 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: I want you to hear from two different voices, and 548 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: we can start with Senator Mark Warner. There's a voice 549 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: from Virginia expressing Listen to the tone of voice expressing 550 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: some real concern. When he was asked today about what 551 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: this all means, I'm worried, not just in Virginia, I'm 552 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: across the country. We've got a show that we can 553 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: deliver in a pragmatic way that affects people's lives. I 554 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: hope we will take that the lessons from Virginia that 555 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: we need to govern in a pragmatic way and give 556 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: this president the winds, and I think the American people 557 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: will win by as well. Clearly worried. Who does not 558 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: sound worried is the minority leader in the US House, 559 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: the man who hopes to be holding the gavel after 560 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: another year from now. Listen to Kevin McCarthy, it'll be 561 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: more than seventy Democrats that will be competitive. There's many 562 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: that are going to lose their races based upon walking 563 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: off a cliff from Betsy Pelosi pushing him. She may 564 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: not care to if she loses. She lost sixty three 565 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: the last time she was speaker, moving policy that the 566 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: country didn't care for. Many believe she won't stay around. 567 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: So is she going to be there to defend you? 568 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: Are you going to bring President Biden in with his 569 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: policies into your district to defend you? Tough way to 570 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: make a living, Rick Davis, what do you think of 571 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: the minority leader's math tonight? His math is pretty good? Uh? 572 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: You haven't gotten the final result out of New Jersey, 573 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: but I think he's looking at you just saying, Okay, 574 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: if we have the billy to compete in a place 575 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: like New Jersey, there are probably twenty more House seats 576 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: then he had originally thought two or three days ago 577 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: that we're going to be in play. And I think 578 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: he's probably right. I mean, the indications we have is 579 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: that the Biden, Pelosi Schumer triad are going to stay 580 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: the course they They're talking all day today about passing 581 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: something they probably should understand is wildly unpopular and uh 582 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: and and if they lean into a storm, you know, 583 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: they could get blown over. What do you think about that, Jennie? 584 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: How how do you prevent a speaker McCarthy from happening 585 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: as a Democrat. I think they have to really pay 586 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: attention to what the voters, particularly the moderate and independent voters, 587 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: who will decide who has Congress, the House and the 588 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: Senate next fall. They need to pay attention to what 589 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: they were saying in these two races. Should they start 590 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: listening to moderate members of the House and Senate. They should. 591 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: They should listen to Joe Manchin, They should listen to 592 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: Josh gottheimer they should listen to Mark Warner. They're absolutely right. 593 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 1: They need to be to be responding to what people 594 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: are thinking and feeling and experiencing and going through. A 595 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: lot of these races had to do directly with our 596 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: experiences in the pandemic, and Democrats have done a really 597 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: good job in many ways addressing the pandemic. They need 598 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: to start talking about that, and they need to start 599 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: listening to what people are going through. You know, Dr 600 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: Dean Roselle was right, you know, young can talking about 601 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: bread and butter issues. That's important. Gasoline tax, grocery tax. 602 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: One of his big applause lines was that people at 603 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: the d MB will pick up the phone when you call. 604 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, those are the kinds of things people care about, 605 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: and that's what Democrats need to start thinking about. Yes, 606 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: they care about you know, childcare taxes, all that stuff, 607 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: but they need to start listening to responding to what 608 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: people are going through now, which is going in the 609 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: grocery store to empty shelves and high gas taxes or 610 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: high high gas prices. Rick, if you were still running 611 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: Republican campaigns, let's say you were just digging into these 612 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 1: mid terms, now, would you be rewriting strategies after watching 613 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,439 Speaker 1: these races, and specifically Glenn Young Can Yeah. I think 614 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: that when you look in uh dissect the Republican turnout 615 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: in the state and the Democratic turnout, you'd start looking 616 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: at districts that you otherwise wouldn't put money into that 617 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: you believe, well, if Republicans are this motivated and they're 618 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: going to turn out in these numbers, we're gonna we're 619 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna push a couple more districts, you know, into the 620 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: wind column. And and and that is allocation of resources. 621 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: UH focus on recruitment for new candidates in those districts 622 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: where otherwise, you know, some Republicans may not be planning 623 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: to run, or at least ones that you think might 624 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: be competitive. So it's gonna affect recruitment, it's gonna affect money, 625 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: it's gonna affect staffing and teams. But right now, I 626 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: think the messaging pretty much is, UH, find a couple 627 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: of good local issues to push on like Young Kan did, 628 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: but but lean into the firestorm in Washington right now, 629 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: Because if you were betting that the Democrats weren't going 630 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: to execute on a plan that was going to be 631 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: worth trillions of dollars you'd be right today, and that 632 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: clearly has some impact. I think there are other things 633 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: that you can't bake into the equation. Obviously, Afghanistan border, 634 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: these are things that all added to this equation today. 635 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: But but right now, I think if you're a Republican strategists, 636 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: you're you're recalibrating things to open up the aperture and 637 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: look at districts that you otherwise wouldn't see. What if 638 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: Trump gets real? I'll ask both you guys this genie. 639 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: What if Donald Trump does what Terry mccalloff hoped he 640 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: would do, start showing up, holding rallies with candidates who 641 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: want him, who embrace him, who make ads with him. 642 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: Do Democrats actually get to run the strategy that mccalloff tried. Oh, 643 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: that would be a dream for Democrats. Get him back 644 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter, get him talking, get him visiting. You know, 645 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: I I do have to say, this whole idea of 646 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: Yunkin as a roadmap for other Republicans, it's not going 647 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: to be as easy to replicate as people are saying today. 648 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: And that's because don't forget Younkan did not have to 649 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: run in a primary. If he had to run into primary, 650 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: he would have had to run and he would have 651 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: had to maybe embrace Donald Trump a lot more than 652 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: he had to the party in Virginia was smart get 653 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: it done in a convention. Imagine if they had nominated 654 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: this Amanda Chase. You know, people call her the Trump 655 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 1: and heels much much tougher for Republicans to win there. Yeah, 656 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: she calls herself that. And similarly, as you look at 657 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: New Jersey, you have somebody who wasn't endorsed by Trump. 658 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: So the more Trump gets involved, the easier it is 659 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: to use the mcculloff strategy against these candidates, and the 660 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: harder for young can the young can like people to 661 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: sort of thread this needle of hugging Trump and not 662 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: hugging Trump. It's not going to be as easy to 663 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: do as it as it seems. I think there's young 664 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: and success Rick cause other Republican candidates than to think 665 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: twice about inviting Donald Trump or or we or were 666 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: about to witness this well. I I think the bigger 667 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: question is, um, Donald Trump is already out campaigning against 668 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: Republicans for his own candidates, right, I mean, He's going 669 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: to pick winners and losers, and he wants them, especially 670 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: in his own vision. And so I think that this 671 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: will likely light a fire under that operation to say, 672 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: you know what, we've got to be actually more aggressive 673 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: because we're not going to get the benefit of declaring victory, 674 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: which he didn't do today. Really, um, you know when 675 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: when we don't campaign. I think the guy who's got 676 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: to be a little bit nervous is Kevin McCarthy, who's 677 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: sort of gotten all in uh with this Trump strategy 678 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: of putting Trump people into these uh slots, into these candidates, 679 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: because now he realizes, gosh, you know, like I can 680 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: actually put more mainstream candidates to work here that might 681 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: win these districts without having to take the brain damage 682 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: of running off all these suburban voters that Donald Trump 683 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: will when he comes into town. So if Republicans take 684 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: control of the House, it sounds like you're not necessarily 685 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: sold on a Speaker McCarthy either. Well, you know, there's 686 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: there's still one big foot to drop, and that's this 687 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 1: commission on the January six attack on the Capitol. And 688 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: and I think this could have a pretty significant impact 689 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 1: on Speaker McCarthy's ambitions to be Speaker leader. I got 690 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: what you meant there, let's just quickly game out infrastructure 691 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: and reconciliation. We'll just call it the Biden agenda. Did 692 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: this make it more likely, uh, Genie, for for moderates 693 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: to to get some action here pass at least the BIFF, 694 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: or or maybe start talking about salt more seriously to 695 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: get everyone on board. It absolutely should, you know, I 696 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: think that moderates should be listened to. This would be 697 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: about three point one trillion dollars between the American Rescue 698 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 1: plan and the Biperison infrastructure. Take those wins, go out 699 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: and sell it in this next year. And and Joe, 700 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: I just have to say, I'm very happy that you 701 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: said today is the start officially of mid term election year. 702 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, we love it so so, but I think 703 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: they should and I think they may have to do. 704 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: Listen to Joe manon put off this build back better 705 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: a little bit. In this economic you know situation we're 706 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: in with inflation and everything else. Adding one point seven 707 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 1: five to six trillion dollars on top of what they've 708 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: already spent, it's not going to be a go for 709 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: independence and moderates who are going to decide this thing 710 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: or take it's on the table. Rick does something actually 711 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: moved now, I would hope. So I think that if 712 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: you're a senate strategist in the Democrat Party, you've just 713 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: got to assume that you're not gonna get um mansion 714 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: in cinema to play along with the reconciliation package. And 715 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: so go back to the House and say, do your work. 716 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: We already passed a perfectly good, uh infrastructure plan. Why 717 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: don't you just pass that and give give give the 718 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: President and our party a win in a very dark 719 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: period of time for us, so that we can turn 720 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: the page on this thing. And it's beyond my comprehension 721 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,479 Speaker 1: of the news today is people still fighting result which 722 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: I think in the most of the still fighting nobody cares. 723 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 1: Rick Davis, Genie Chanzano, did you feel the earth move today? 724 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 1: I love you guys. I love you guys, and I 725 00:40:50,440 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: want to thank my beloved color Well. I started this 726 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 1: campaign three hundred and twenty eight days ago, when I 727 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: told you on that fateful Friday afternoon, I have done 728 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: an average of seven to ten events a day for 729 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: the last three hundred eight days. The conviction had come 730 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: over my heart to go serve Virginians. You did respond, 731 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: You responded with grace. You You responded with support for 732 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: the doors that you've knocked down, the phone calls that 733 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: you made. Just last weekend, four doors knocked on two 734 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: million during the course of this campaign. You responded with 735 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: unconditional love, Thank you. I look around this room and 736 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: I see so many friends we've worked in for many years. 737 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: This is a different state, from the farms of the 738 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:53,880 Speaker 1: shenando Valley to the docks and shipyards of Hampton Roads, 739 00:41:53,960 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: to the cold fields and southwest Virginia. We are the 740 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: greatest state in the United States of America, and it's 741 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: because of you. This is our Virginia to build together, 742 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 1: and we are going to go to work on day one.