1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Here's the headline. Did a group of mercenaries use a 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: series of proxy websites to coordinate heist? To coordinate honestly assassinations? 3 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: We talked about assassinations in our newest book. Uh, and 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: it's an ugly world. It's an ugly thing to do, 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: but it does happen all of the time. We called 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: this episode Lake City Quiet Pills. You remember this one. Yeah, 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: it's not something that I was aware of, this term 8 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: lake City Quiet Pills until all of us stumbled on 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: this reddit, the series of Reddit posts, and my goodness, 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: the rabbit hole is deep on this one. So let's 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: go ahead and jump right through. Let's learn about possible 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: assassinations and a weird term for bullets. From UFOs to 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is riddled with unexplained events. 14 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: You can turn back now or learn the stuff they 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Hello, and welcome back to 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: the show. My name is Matt, my name is Noel. 17 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: They called me Ben. You are you and that makes 18 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: this stuff they don't want you to know. Today we're 19 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: talking about something, uh, something pretty weird. So maybe by 20 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: way of segue we can we can talk a little 21 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: bit about the Internet. Guy's ever heard of that? The Internet? 22 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: What's that big deal? That's a big deal. So what 23 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: is it though? The Internet? I'm so glad you asked. 24 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: Let's let's just explain that we're kidding. If you were 25 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: listening to this show, you already know what the Internet is. 26 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: You've listened to our earlier episodes on the Dark Web, 27 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: and we would to recommend a guy that we usually 28 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: give a hard time to. Uh, if you want to 29 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: get a good nuts and bolts explanation of the technology 30 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: at work behind the Internet, head on over to Tech 31 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: Stuff with our friends, recurring guests, Yeah, recurring guest host, 32 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: and of course our complaint department. Jonathan Strickland's he's kind 33 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: of a friend of me in a way. You know, 34 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: when I first started working here, he promoted me to 35 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Nemesis at some point, and I thought he would let 36 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: it he I thought eventually we get tired of it. 37 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: Did you know? You guys have been riding that crazy 38 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: train ever since. I know, but he does know his 39 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: stuff about the Internet and technology. We're going to talk 40 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: specifically about a strange mystery that occurred on on Reddit 41 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: a number of years ago with a strange name. It's 42 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: called Lake City Quiet Pills. That's pretty cool. I don't 43 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: know why. It gives me a shutter. It'll give you 44 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: more of a shutter once we get into it. Something 45 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: about that just on its own. Remember last episode we 46 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: talked about how like kind of simple, straightforward names seemed 47 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: the most nefarious at times. That has that thing, Yeah, definitely, 48 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: absolutely well we this thing is found was found originated 49 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: on a website called Reddit. If you don't know what 50 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: redd it is, let's get into it. It's a news 51 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: slash meme, I would say, aggregator. I would say it 52 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: kind of leans heavily on the second. Maybe you know, 53 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of news. That's where I get a 54 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: lot of my news. Uh. And in theory, it's driven 55 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: by reader interests. This it's up votes, down votes. Instead 56 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: of creating its own, you know, stories of Reddit publishing things. 57 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: It takes articles from other parts of the web, images 58 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: from other parts of the web, throws it on there 59 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: and let's all of the people vote on what's the 60 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: best and what's the worst. And the name itself is 61 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: a portmanteau really of reading and editing, and the people 62 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: that contribute to it are referred to as redditors because 63 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: not only do they consume the content on the side, 64 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: they are also largely responsible for the content on the site. 65 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: And there is sort of a hierarchy of up voting 66 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: and downvoting, like you're talking about, as far as what 67 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: rises to the top and what things to the bottom. 68 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: So in theory, if everything is working well, read it 69 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: will become the sum of its participants interest And just 70 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: like Noel and that explained, Uh, that's rough up voting, 71 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: down voting of things reddit users. This is very important 72 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: or to a degree. Anonymous. Um, so sure, we've looked 73 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: and we've looked into this in the past. It's it's 74 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: essentially so inconvenient to be anonymous on the web that 75 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: you might as well consider it impossible. But read, it 76 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: makes it very easy for someone to have a different 77 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: identity part of the draw. Really yeah, I I would 78 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: absolutely agree. And but sure, our our buddy are poor, 79 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: unfortunate an essay intern Steve oh Man, Steve, are you 80 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 1: doing okay? He probably knows everyone's real name and address, 81 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: But the average Reddit user won't know anything about other 82 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: reddit users or redditors unless they choose to reveal these details. 83 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: That means that it's very very difficult to know what's true, 84 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: and the community has evolved ways to prove things when necessary, 85 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: but for the most part you can do and saying 86 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: post whatever you want. And lastly, it is like almost 87 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: like an ecosystem. It's it's it's sort of like a 88 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: combinations of a hybrid message board where there are little communities, subcommunities, 89 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: people that know each other and that communicate on a 90 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: regular basis and may voluntarily share information with one another 91 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 1: within a particularly close in the community within the reddit, 92 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, ecosystem. That's a really good point. Yeah, And 93 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: another thing that we need to look at here is 94 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: when you make an account, a Reddit account and you 95 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: make posts, anyone can click on the name of your 96 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: account and see an entire backlog of everything that you've 97 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: publicly posted as a user of Reddit, which is super 98 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: handy to the story we're getting into today, because there 99 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: is one person in particular that we're going to focus 100 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 1: on that this whole story revolves around. Yes, all of 101 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: this brings us to a redditor named Religion of Peace 102 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: all one word. This reditor was a shady dude sketching 103 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: person bad ombre, apparently based on his comments right, Uh, 104 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: he was tied to some disreputable parts of Reddit. We 105 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: do want to warn you that some of the things 106 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: we're going to be citing here are severely not safe 107 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 1: for work, not at SFL, SFL, not safe for life, 108 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: So you if you desire to visit these, visit them 109 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: at your own risk. So, as Noel mentioned, Creddit is 110 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: an ecosystem that has these different can unities that are 111 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: focused on specific interests. So there might be you can 112 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: also anyone can make a new community, So there might 113 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: be something that's just for camaros. There might be something 114 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: that's just for magic, the gathering, magic the gathering, just 115 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: like like a George R. Martin or something like that 116 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: particular series of books, you know, a product even I 117 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: mean it gets as granular as you your imagination will allow. 118 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: I think there's a subredit for our one of our 119 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: peer shows stuff you should know. Actually, you know, we 120 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: officially have one subredit conspiracy stuff we do. We do 121 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: a user and I am so sorry if you're listening 122 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: to this. I don't remember who which person made it 123 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: for us, but it exists there. Oh holy smokes, it's 124 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: waiting to be curated by you, not not being a null, 125 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: but you the listener, you specifically listening to this, not 126 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: a general you know, you specifically like the you like 127 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: in the name of the show, like the stuff they 128 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: don't want you. Yes, you that you. It all just 129 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: came around to me that I realized that's that you. 130 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: We've been talking about this whole time, all right, So 131 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: now that we have established this, we know that people 132 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: can make their own communities. This guy Religion of Peace 133 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: was a moderator an administrator of UH communities like jail bait. Yeah, 134 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: he's the one that he was a moderator of was 135 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: true jail bait, which sounds even worse. So this would 136 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: be you know, this is essentially on the line of 137 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: UM underage pornography. And he also ran a website called 138 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: that Old Guy's Image Host. Again, as Noel said in 139 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: sfl UH does contain pornographic material. And ordinarily this kind 140 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: of posting history it's it's unfortunate, it's sleazy, but it's 141 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: not completely unheard of in in forums, you know, like 142 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: read it or it's Evil Genius UH sibling four Chan. 143 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: You know, these these kind of things happen because in 144 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: a lot of ways, people feel empowered when they are anonymous, 145 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: and they will do things that you know they would 146 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: never do if you knew their real names. Back in 147 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: July two thousand and nine, another redditor going by the 148 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: name to six announced that Religion of Peace had passed 149 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: away at the age of seventy nine, and not that 150 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: he passed away, but that he was seventy nine and moderating. 151 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Right if this is true? Now this again, this seems yeah, 152 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: this seems sad but normal. You know, you can, as 153 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: Matt said, see the comments that are Reddit user has 154 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: made laid out in a timeline, and Religion of Pieces 155 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: comments are very interesting and far afield from what you 156 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: would expect to find. It appears, in fact, that he 157 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: was someone with a lot of military backgrounds and that 158 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: his I guess criminal interest didn't just stay in the 159 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: flesh trade. He apparently specialized in arranging assassinations. Perhaps perhaps so, 160 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: should we go through a couple of the posts that 161 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: he made, just so we can establish like more information 162 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: about this guy. Well, first of a little background, like 163 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: what are we talking to here? Like what what made 164 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: this language unusual? Okay? Sure, right, so the we walked 165 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: through it this way. So remember the website we mentioned 166 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: a minute ago, there was a predator named zassak Kwan 167 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: who found some information hidden in the page source in 168 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: the source code of that old guy's image host, and 169 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: it had the strange domain name of www dot Lake 170 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: City Quai at pills dot com. The site was also 171 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: run by Religion of Peace. What this Reddit user found 172 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: appeared to be these coded messages related to hiring people 173 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: to conduct uh these military operations. And shortly after this 174 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: was discovered and armchair investigators were checking into it, another 175 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: redditor found that the code had changed. Whoever was running 176 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: the site had I guess up their game and used 177 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: encrypted hashes. So here's the kind of stuff they were 178 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: saying before the code changed. I would say, standing on 179 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: the no fly list, let us know ahead of time 180 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: to make arrangements. Twelve March two thousand ten spec UH 181 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: four person team. These are all all in a lot 182 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: of like very strange shorthand initially slashes and shorthands and 183 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: abbreviations and acronyms and things like that, and people have 184 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: made guesses about what some of this means. So for instance, 185 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: there's um, there's a part where it says fed c 186 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: c W A plus that means is probably UH concealing 187 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: carry permit UH and also says stuff like no us 188 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: WW that probably stands for wants and warrants and this. 189 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: These references go around with UM with other parts of 190 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: the world, like the European Union is mentioned here. UH. 191 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: Fluency in French or fluency in English are mentioned here. 192 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Depending on the people you ask UH this. There are 193 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: people ex military who say that this sounds like outdated 194 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: military speak. So this could mean and this could mean 195 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: that Religion of Peace who's apparently also known as Dutch 196 00:12:55,280 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: Milo is a retired service member or who went mercenary. 197 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: And nowadays there's a lot of money in going private industry. 198 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't remember what Blackwater is calling itself now, 199 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: Academic or something perhaps, or they'll just think they'll get 200 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: a more increasingly vague name until one day they're just 201 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: group incorporated, you know. But when people found us, they thought, 202 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 1: what the heck is going on? Who is the shade 203 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: guy they're referencing? Who's Dutch Milo? Is this an elaborate hoax? 204 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,599 Speaker 1: Is this a marketing campaign? Some people thought it was 205 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: an alternate reality game. Is this an assassination squad? Well 206 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: we'll find out, right after a quick sponsor break, here's 207 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. So we've established what's happening everything 208 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: up to now is a real thing. The big question 209 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: which people haven't quite been able to crack yet is 210 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: whether this is you know, whether whether this is just 211 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: somebody trolling on the internet, or whether it is a 212 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: genuine mercenary ring or intelligence op of some sort that 213 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: was discovered. And there are arguments for and against it 214 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: being a hoax. But Matt, what's okay. So one of 215 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: the things we heard a lot when the argument in 216 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: the arguments for it being a hoax was the concept 217 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: of an a r G, as you said, an alternate 218 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: reality game. Could you tell us a little bit about that. Oh? Sure, 219 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: one of these things is going to be involving all 220 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: kinds of different electronics, sometimes manual transmissions. Um, you're talking 221 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: about secret posts on websites, codes that are hidden somewhere 222 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: that if you're playing the game and you know what 223 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: the game is, you're gonna be looking for it. But 224 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: if you're not, then it's going to be innocuous. So 225 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: this is not like a web based like app, like 226 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: a war game that has like a top down game 227 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: type set up. This is like almost like an a 228 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: digital scavenger hunt kind of set up where it's established 229 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: what the rules are, what the rules of play are, 230 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: and then you kind of have to figure out where 231 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: what you're looking for and where to look. Right kind of, Yeah, 232 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 1: this is something that's sort of out of my wheelhouse 233 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm trying to understand. It gets used 234 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot in viral marketing for say a film. Right, 235 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: so if you want to, uh, if you want to 236 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: get people excited about a Matrix reboot, which spoiler alert 237 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: is apparently happening, then you would, as as a marketer, 238 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: you would go and pepper in these little bread crumbs 239 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: on these different websites and people would maybe just see 240 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: a billboard that had a phone number, and if you 241 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: went to that phone number, you get a weird message. 242 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: I remember one with the movie clover Field, for example, 243 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: with you know, like a monster movie slush show. They 244 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: had all these like sub brands that websites would pop 245 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: up and you would be like, what the hell is 246 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: this and then realize, oh, you click here and it 247 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: cross links you back to another thing, and yeah, I 248 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: get it. It does kind of like create this almost 249 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: mythology for a product and it gets people talking about it, 250 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: and people you know on the internet love that. Yeah, 251 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: but there are other communities out there where it's not 252 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: just for marketing. It's a game that you can play 253 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: where if you sign up, you know, you create an 254 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: account on a website and you sign up to play 255 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: this game, then you'll get calls in the middle of 256 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: the night with someone who gives you like a secret 257 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: message or something by a real human or if sometimes 258 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: by a robot, and then you it'll give you coordinates, 259 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: or it'll give you a place to be at a 260 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: certain time, and there will be a physical note left 261 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: there for you, or they'll be like a VHS tape 262 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: in a padded envelope left on your doorstep with footage 263 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: of you sleeping on it. I guess I'm just trying 264 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: to stress it. These things are very real. They're not 265 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: always for marketing, and they you know, you can play 266 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: them for any number of reasons. Um sometimes to scare yourself, 267 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: sometimes for the mystery, and sometimes for the market, and 268 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: sometimes for job applications or for entry into elite communities 269 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: like Cicada. Yes, when you know, we had an update 270 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: from wired uh where ours technic I believe about that, uh, 271 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: that experience because an anonymous robotics student actually did manage 272 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: to crack the code, got into the gang, and you know, 273 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: worked with them on open source stuff, so that mystery 274 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: was somewhat salved. The reason we're bringing up these examples 275 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: is because we want to we want to outline that 276 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: this is more common, perhaps than you might think, and 277 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: this blurring of the line between reality and fiction is 278 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: much more easily accomplished now that we we live in 279 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: this instantaneous, pervasive information. So it could be that it 280 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: could be that someone just made it up and said, 281 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: you know, this is this is gonna be my my 282 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: opus maybe at all, maybe break maybe you break some 283 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: kind of code now that they use, like hash encryptions 284 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: and stuff. Maybe break some kind of code somehow and 285 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: you get a web address and you type it in 286 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: and it's just a rick Roll video. Maybe. But to 287 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: do all that on that website, to do all of 288 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: this through an almost underage if not underage, you know, 289 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: pornography site, pretty creepy, that's true. So when let's talk 290 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: about some things that would some connected tissues. So when uh, 291 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: when that redator to six announced that religion a piece 292 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: of path the way or Dutch Milo. They said that 293 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: they were going to bury him near various ashes, near 294 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: a farm, uh that he used to live on, but 295 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: there was a mall there now. So people have based 296 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: on the name Lake City and this information about farm, 297 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: tried to trace the coordinates of this. Um okay, I'm 298 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: getting a little bit ahead of myself. Uh. The two 299 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: six even just to keep you there. To six even 300 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: posted an image and said this, here's where Milo is now. 301 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: And it's an image on Google Maps and it's right 302 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: next to a little strip mall. It's just it looks 303 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: like a place that's being developed, like a little attracted 304 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 1: land that's being developed. He's like, that's where he is. 305 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: So there's another there's another important thing here. We're talking 306 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: about the name Lake City, quiet pills, creepy, right. It 307 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: comes from another person on a website called fark an Angel. 308 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: To six remember farc from back in the day that 309 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: was I used to go to that side. Yeah, yeah, 310 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: it's I mean some back in the day stuff. He 311 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: was posting there since two thousand and one and his 312 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: tagline was, you know, like his signature line that would 313 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: show up and then for was dispensing Lake City Quiet 314 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: Pills to lousy bastards and need a permanent rest since nine, yes, 315 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: and his email address was at Lake City Quiet Pills 316 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: dot com. So it would appear then that he and 317 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: Dutch Milo would both have access to this or are 318 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: the same person having to be different people. But this 319 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: is way back in two thousand one. I mean, this 320 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 1: is really committing to the bit, isn't it. And we 321 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: have just to reiterate here. The reddit user's name is 322 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: to dash six, and then this is angel to dash six, 323 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: except in this version on farc it's spelled out two 324 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: S I X. And we also see these different connections 325 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of astute redditors have made with the 326 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: Lake City connect Remember that rehdeator we mentioned uh zass 327 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: coquan uh that's ojibe for fry bread. And we have 328 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: someone named sister Psythe who said that they were uh 329 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: that that they identified the location of that map that 330 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: to six posted that it's a reservation at fond Lack. 331 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: This means that, in this rehdator's opinion, Lake City could 332 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: be a reference to Duluth, Minnesota. But there's another and 333 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: somewhat more compelling argument for Lake City Quiet Pills. Yeah, 334 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: it's in Missouri, maybe because there's this thing called the 335 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: Lake City Army Ammunition Plant. It's in Independence, Missouri. It 336 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: was originally constructed in nineteen one by the by Uncle Sam. 337 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: And it's one of several government owned ammunition plants where 338 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: they make all the bullets for the Army and Navy 339 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: and Air Force and special forces, all that stuff. And 340 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: it's the primary it's the United States primary production source 341 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: for small caliber rifle ammunition, hence a Lake City quiet pill, 342 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: and it's commonly referred to as Lake City ammo. And 343 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: the plant itself is pretty famous among shooters and handloaders. 344 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: Most people hadn't heard them being called quiet pills before. 345 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: Most of the American military surplus m O that people 346 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: do use to shoot comes from Lake City. Like this 347 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: place is an enormous plant. There are people who, let's 348 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: go back and forth on this, but I like that 349 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: we're pro and conning the the truthiness of it. So 350 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: and there are other people who think this is absolutely hoax. 351 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: Timeline be damned. They say that, um, they say that 352 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: religion of piece is not a guy who served in 353 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: the military in the late forties, and they do some 354 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: quotes because religion of pieces. I was in the Navy 355 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: until forty five. I didn't see any land combat until 356 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: Palestine and forty seven. I saw it then both sides, 357 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: and continued seeing it until I got too old. So 358 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: if we walk through some of the math, that would 359 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: make him eighteen at least in I mean he was 360 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: born earlier the which would make him eighty in two 361 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: thousand seven, around eighty two in two thousand nine, when 362 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: to six said that he passed away. So maybe the 363 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: story is changing, Maybe the guy is mistaken. We don't 364 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: know how well they knew each other. Uh. There's another 365 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: thing people try called contextual grammar analysis, and this would 366 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: be running a passage through a through an algorithm essentially, 367 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: or through some software that would guess the age of 368 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: the person writing. Yeah. I don't know how you guys feel. 369 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: I think that's interesting science, but I don't know how 370 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: dependable that is. I wouldn't bet the farm on it 371 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: or the strip mall. There's also seems to be a 372 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: perspective if you dig through some of the Reddit threads 373 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: on this subject, that a lot, if not all, of 374 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: the people involved in this ring and that we're posting 375 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: on this site were ex military where it was like 376 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: a ring of like former rangers and you know, high level, 377 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: highly trained military personnel, um, and that that kind of 378 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: rings true here to me. Yeah, I could definitely see it. 379 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: So if they're tied into let us say, for the 380 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: sake of argument, that the let's say, for the sake 381 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: of argument, that this is some sort of mercenary or 382 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: assassin ring or even an intelligence operation. The first question 383 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: would be, why would you put these kind of notes 384 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: in source code on you know, a porn site, publicly 385 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: available porn slite. It seems pretty easy, easily discovered. Should 386 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: we read a couple more exerts? Yeah, I think that's 387 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: a great idea. I got a really good one. This 388 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: is the one that really got to me from Religion 389 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: of Peace, posted seven years ago, and it got two points, 390 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: you guys said, I'm and this is just an excerpt 391 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: from it. Of course, there are assassinations. There are some 392 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: things that the legal system can't fix. So many people 393 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: actually believe that as left up as things are right now, 394 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: and as they have been for the last twenty years, 395 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: that they aren't needed. I can think of any number 396 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: of criminal organizations that would benefit from a dose of 397 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: Lake City quiet pills. So there you have religion of 398 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: Peace using that phrase. And some of the other threads 399 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: that I've digging through here, we have a perspective that 400 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: some uh folks believed that this language was almost written 401 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: in a way that made it sound like you would 402 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: expect ex military to sound, or like that the coded 403 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: language talk was just so over the top as not 404 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: to really be legit. But there's actually another podcast called 405 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways that different episode on this, and they consulted, 406 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: according to their post here on Reddit, consulted a large 407 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: number of ex military special ops experts, etcetera um, and 408 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: they seem to believe that, as you mentioned earlier, than 409 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: it was simply more of an old school way of 410 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: speaking or writing these codes, and that most of them 411 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: that they showed it to felt that it was in 412 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: fact legit, which is interesting, goes you know, it's going 413 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: back and forth on this. If they if they are 414 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: arranging assassinations in real life, then we would be able 415 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: to or we would hope that we would be able 416 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,479 Speaker 1: to find an example of an assassination, you know what 417 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean. Less these people are just getting together and LARPing. Well, 418 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: there might have been one. There may be one example 419 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: rights spot on Matt the assassination of moth mood al Mabbo. 420 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: Can we take a quick sponsor break before we hop 421 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: into the details of that case. Absolutely. As we mentioned 422 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: before the break, we do have more examples of these 423 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: comments that were found in the source code or in 424 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: the page source and we'll walk through a couple of 425 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: these and maybe see if they attach to like a 426 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: specific assassination. Right, So, our first first example here would 427 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: be um January January and it reads happy New Year everyone, 428 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: We're having a birthday party for the old man on 429 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: the nineteen. Party starts at the usual send you R 430 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: s v P to Shade. Listen to the shape. It 431 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: keeps popping up. F y I. We're booking a room 432 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: for three days for anyone coming from out of area 433 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: and overnight for locals. Come hoist one for Dutch Milo. Okay, 434 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: So it's an invite to a birthday party. That sounds innocuous, 435 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: sounds fine. And then on the of January we see 436 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: another message. We got thirty eight rooms in the Marriott 437 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: on forty six. Shade has the key cards for locals. 438 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: Pick up at the party, give your travel name to 439 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: the desk and that's it. No, I d needed since 440 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: we're covering the bill, keep the room service under five okay, Swanky, 441 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: the phones are not secure. Bus from the hotel leaves 442 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: att car service vouchers for return trip when you're ready 443 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: to crash. Don't d U. I interesting wording here. I'm 444 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: really interested in that thirty eight rooms. This is either 445 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: a giant part or that's code for something right. That's 446 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: very That's a very good point, Matt. This also coincides 447 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: with um that that quote that Nol just read uh 448 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: was on eighteen January, the day before there was an 449 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: assassination in Dubai. Nineteen January, a man named Mahmoud al 450 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Mapa was assassinated. He was wanted by the Israeli government 451 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: for kidnapping, a murder of two soldiers and eighty nine 452 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: as well as purchasing arms for Iran from Iran for 453 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: use in Gaza. His assassination got a lot of international attention, 454 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: due in part to the belief that it was ordered 455 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: by the Israeli government and carried out by Massad agents 456 00:29:54,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 1: holding fake or stolen passports from different European countries and Australia. 457 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: There were twenty six suspects. Uh, they were put on 458 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: Interpool's most wanted list because of the timeline of the 459 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: comments and because of the timeline of the assassination. Some 460 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: investigators believe that these are direct references. Right now, Yeah, 461 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: and I believe this. This occurrence, this assassination had a 462 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: ton of video related to it. Video in the hotel 463 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: and the lobby, like next to the rooms, video of 464 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: people going in and out of a room, and it 465 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: was pretty high profile. I remember when lively get the 466 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: time I saw something. It's been a while and I 467 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: couldn't find anything on it in searching again. But this 468 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: this is really interesting way it's lining up here at 469 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: least with the dates and some of this lingo. And 470 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: then a person on Reddit who an account which is 471 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: now deleted, went through and uh kind of compared these 472 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: two like what happened in real life and then what 473 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: happened on the site. And you know, there's all kinds 474 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: of stuff in there. You might want to check it out. 475 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: What's the best way for people to find this? Ben 476 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: If you go to um the Reddit Bureau of Investigation, 477 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: which was great. I recommend those folks. Awesome subreddit if 478 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: you go there, or you can just search in your 479 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: net for Lake City Quiet Pills and then assassination. Yeah, 480 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: throw in Reddit if you want as a cue word, 481 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: they'll take you right there. You might have to do 482 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: some digging within these these posts, but all this stuff 483 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: exists out there for you to kind of sink your 484 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: teeth into and dig deeper. And there's a thread I 485 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: found where someone was really starting to try to get 486 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: serious about digging in and finding some identities to associate 487 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: with these folks. And one of the responses is from 488 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: a poster with the handle Jason Lee with j A 489 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: S and then Lee, and the response is quote, if 490 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: you're serious about this, be careful. As others have mentioned before, 491 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: the whole thing could be a hoax. But I don't 492 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: believe this is a fifteen year hoax for funzies. The 493 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: point being be cautious. These people don't seem to f around. Uh, 494 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: use throwaway accounts and secure VPNs, and then give some 495 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: suggestions for good VPNs to use. So, yeah, I wouldn't 496 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: want anybody slinging Lake City Quiet Pills to roam around 497 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: my house or you know, around our office. That would 498 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: be a little creepy. And also also we want to 499 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: say that this. This has been investigated or dug into 500 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: by many people, including the Thinking Sideways podcast that Nolan's mentioned, 501 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: including numerous reditors who did some great sleuthing. And you 502 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: have to wonder if there is a group of people 503 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: who are listening two shows like this, reading forums like 504 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: the ones we checked out for this episode. If you 505 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: are there, if you are listening, feel free to write 506 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, that'd be great. You're giving me a 507 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: trepidacious look. No, no, I I am interested in this 508 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: line of work, and it's tough for me. You think 509 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: about a changing career. No, No, although you would have, 510 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: you'd have to tell us that you were considering it, though. Yeah, 511 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: I can never go back there. Um. So I have 512 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: a hard time arguing with that logic that Religion of 513 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: Peace states in that one that one little post he 514 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: made that there are messed up people in this world 515 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes the you know, law can't reach them, the 516 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: long arm of the law isn't long enough, and sometimes 517 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: they have to go. And you know, that's a tough 518 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: thing to wrap your it around. It's a tough thing 519 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: for me to even stomach a little bit. But I 520 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: feel like he might be right. There might be a 521 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: necessity for some kind of extra judicial killing. I think 522 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. I mean, whether or not it's philosophically right, 523 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is that this does occur. 524 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: You know, we live in an era and a time 525 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: when we have to ask ourselves an honest question. This 526 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: species right. Are there really more skeletons in the closets 527 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: of the of you know, the various nation states or 528 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: is it just easier to see into those closets. I 529 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: don't think the number of skeletons has necessarily changed. I 530 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: think it's just easier for people to learn about things 531 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: like extraordinary rendition or black sites, or assassinations carried out 532 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: by other intelligence agencies if you get into the murky 533 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: world of real politic. Uh, this is how the sauce 534 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,399 Speaker 1: which is made. Which is the first time I've ever 535 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: used that figure of speech. Well, you folks out there, 536 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: you want to send us some of your sausage? Uh? Weird? 537 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: Do you make sausage at your house? Like I would 538 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: genuinely be interested in trying your So I'm just trying 539 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: to diffuse the diffuse the situation. Ramsey gave me, thankfully 540 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: of really awesome jar of Chipotle mustard that exists in 541 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: our refrigerator right now, and it would go really well 542 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: with any kind of you know, Polish sausage. If you 543 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: want to tell us how your sausage is made, you 544 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: can send us stuff. We have various ways you can 545 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: do that. But before we list off those ways, UM robotically, 546 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: why don't we do a little up shot at corner. 547 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: Our first shout out today comes from Morgan UM and 548 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a massive fan of this email. It starts off, Hey, guys, 549 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: Agent Liquid Cupcake checking in. I think she's referring to 550 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: the end of the episode on the Counterculture where we 551 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: said we would get people nicknames, nicknames, choose your own nickname, 552 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: secret a name. This is great. UM, just wanted to 553 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: drop an angle on you that wasn't particularly covered in 554 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: the counter Culture episode you just released. UM. Let me 555 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: start by saying, first off, that I am not some 556 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: sort of nitrogen based extra planner life form that lives 557 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: outside of time as it is understood in the set 558 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: of dimensions, and because of that, I was certainly not 559 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: the same age I am now, nor was I even 560 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: alive during the nineteen sixties on Earth. Thank you for 561 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: that um. Before the rise of the counterculture, most people 562 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: in the US had a much more right leaning, independent 563 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: and small government mindset that made it hard for things 564 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: like ARPA and domestic spying to exist. The rise of 565 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: left wing politics and social programs as a result, created 566 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: a normalization of government intervention and everyday lives of citizens 567 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: of the U S. This, coupled with the constant security 568 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: threat of proxy war with the great enemy of the time, Russia, 569 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: led to the idea that defense spending and government secrecy 570 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: it was not only tolerable, but essential to daily life. 571 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 1: This led eventually to the current state of affairs in 572 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,280 Speaker 1: which the CIA has near total access to what amounts 573 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: to voluntary provided social modeling and behavioral data. Just to reminder, 574 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: time travel is not real and I do not live forever. 575 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: Have a good day of which there are a finite 576 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: number for every person myself included. Well done, Liquid Cupcake, 577 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: thank you for writing to us. I really enjoyed that 578 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: one too. And that is an interesting angle when we 579 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: go into the ramifications or consequences of such a paradigm shift, 580 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, like if we had described the kind of 581 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: surveillance that exists now to our grandparents generation or something. 582 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: It would it would sound insane. It's a dystopian dude, 583 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: you guys. I watched All the President's Men last night. 584 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: You remember this movie, Robert Redford. It's all about all 585 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: about Watergate, and one of the main things is that surveillance, 586 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: and they start to realize that, wait, they're surveilling all 587 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 1: of us. I mean, this is a country where several 588 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 1: very powerful government agencies existed off the books for years, 589 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: you know. And this, of course, this leads us to 590 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: to think, like, what else could be out there that 591 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: we don't know about, you know, but especially at a 592 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: time when it was completely not thought that that could happen, 593 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: that perhaps an executive branch could work directly with an 594 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: intelligence agency and collect data on as many people as possible. 595 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: The next one comes from Bonnie. She says, I'm a 596 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: longtime listener. I love the show. Bonnie, you're the best. 597 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: She didn't write that. You put that part in and 598 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: so true. You're showing others how stuff works. Helped me 599 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: through my many long, boring work days. Oh man, you 600 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: guys know how those are. Okay. So I was listening 601 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: to your recent Nazi Bell episode when you referenced the 602 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: Kecksburg incident. However, you said Kecksburg, Kentucky, but it's actually Kecksburg, Pennsylvania. Oops. Uh, 603 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: that's our bad. I'm originally from western Pennsylvania, not far 604 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: from Kecksburg, and we would often call this backwoods part 605 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: of the state Pencil Tucky because of its similarity to Kentucky. 606 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, this part of the state 607 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 1: has even stood in for Kentucky. I'm assuming in film 608 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 1: or in media in some way the show Justified. Yes, 609 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: here we go answering my question. The show Justified was 610 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: supposed to take place in Kentucky, but some of the 611 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: scenes were actually filmed not far from Kecksburg, so your 612 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: error was rather amusing. Bonnie also gave us some really 613 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: fun information about reactor, a nuclear reactor, and all kinds 614 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: of good stuff in her email, But we're not gonna 615 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: read the whole thing. We're just gonna thank you Bonnie 616 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:58,479 Speaker 1: for writing to us, and uh for correcting us. Yes, 617 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: this is uh, this is the most important part of 618 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: the show. Thank you for keeping us honest, Bunny, and 619 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: also teaching us a little bit about Pencil Tucky, which 620 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't visited yet, but I'm looking forward 621 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: to traveling. Let's make our last shout out here, very 622 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: very short and sweet one. Uh Keith g you wrote 623 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: in briefly and you said, Hi, guys, love the show. 624 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm a longtime listener from Gloucester, England. Can you please 625 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: do me a shout out? Thank you for the cool podcast. 626 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: Cheers Keith, Keith, you get straight to the point, is it, chief, Keith? 627 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: Is it k I E F it's k e e 628 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:43,400 Speaker 1: f mm hmm. Okay, so indeed, so shout out to you, Keith. 629 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: And this concludes our gosh as well as our episode, 630 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: but not the show itself. Have no fear we will 631 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 1: be back, unless, of course, we take a dose of 632 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: Lake City Quiet pills. If you can hear from mus 633 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: on Friday. In the meantime, you can find us on Instagram, 634 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: you can find us on Facebook. We're on Twitter. We're 635 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 1: doing all sorts of stuff. You can check out every 636 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: episode that Noel, Matt and I have ever done on 637 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: our website Deep Breath stuff, they dot com and we 638 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,360 Speaker 1: have we have a few announcements actually just as we 639 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: throw this up, so we have been gone from the 640 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: world of YouTube for a while. You guys, we've been 641 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: doing some different things. Yes, it's been too long. We 642 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 1: shouldn't have left you without a dope beat the step too. 643 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: But we have been working behind the scenes. Um, Noel, 644 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: Matt and I very closely on a new video that 645 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: is out now. It is live. You can watch it 646 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: for free on Amazon and we'll be posting this everywhere. 647 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: You may recall we did an audio episode about the 648 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: Georgia Guidestones. This is more in depth exploration that from 649 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: the video angle, and we have Matt as our behind 650 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: the camera sorcerer. Uh. We have Noel giving an exclusive 651 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: interview with stuff about the guide Stones that you're not 652 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: gonna hear anywhere else. It's not really exclusive. I here 653 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,720 Speaker 1: all the time, you guys that you can ask me anything. 654 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: So if you were a fan of that episode, this 655 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: is really going to flesh out a lot of what 656 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: we talked about, a lot of what Noel said his 657 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: story in relation to the Guide Stones and to why 658 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 1: it's Martin and is narrated by Ben. So you have 659 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: those dulcet tones coming through, riding all the way to 660 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: the end. I love it. It makes me happy having 661 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: you in there. And then Noel comes in gives his 662 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: interviews and then we get back to ben. I feel 663 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: like sometimes you get a little puppet mastery. Wait wait oh, 664 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:49,040 Speaker 1: when I'm behind, when I'm editing, I just you know, 665 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: you called us marionettes that one time. You're here my 666 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: little playthings that I make move around on the TV. 667 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,959 Speaker 1: No puppet puppet of Just a few more things about 668 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: this video that exists, all right, So it's on Amazon. 669 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: You can watch it for free if you have Prime. 670 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: You can also watch it with commercials. If you don't 671 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: have Prime, and it's on Amazon dot com slash, I 672 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: think you just search in there for video or Amazon 673 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: Prime Video and you can click on and watch it there. 674 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the audio podcast, you're gonna love this 675 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: video because it really shows you the story that we 676 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 1: discussed on air. So take the time watch it. It's 677 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 1: about twenty minutes long. It's good, and that's the end 678 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: of this classic episode. If you have any thoughts or 679 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: questions about this episode, you can get into contact with 680 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 1: us in a number of different ways. 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