WEBVTT - The Shareholder Supremacy

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<v Speaker 1>Zone Media. Hello, and welcome to Better Offline. I'm your

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<v Speaker 1>host ed Zetron. In the next two episodes, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to walk you through a theory I have about how

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<v Speaker 1>the tech industry and CATALYSM at large became the playground

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<v Speaker 1>of asshole do nothing management dictators that see human beings

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<v Speaker 1>as assets and the customer as kind of an annoying

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<v Speaker 1>diversion from growth. But before I go any further, please

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<v Speaker 1>check the episode details of this for a URL that

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<v Speaker 1>has sources for everything that I'm talking about in this

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<v Speaker 1>and future episodes. I want you all to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to follow along with everything I'm saying. Don't take my

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<v Speaker 1>word for it, take the many, many links that I've included.

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<v Speaker 1>It's important that you're just as informed as I am here.

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<v Speaker 1>But now to the episode, and I promise you, once

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<v Speaker 1>we're done with this two parter, every thing that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>will make a little bit more sense, even though it

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<v Speaker 1>all feels just chaotic and offensively stupid, disconnected from reality

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways. I've been working on this episode and

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<v Speaker 1>its follow up for years, watching these trends, getting steadily

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<v Speaker 1>more pissed off. As you've probably heard, Unable to see

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<v Speaker 1>the big picture, because I've been picking up things as

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<v Speaker 1>I go, even since twenty twenty, when I started writing

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<v Speaker 1>my newsletter, there was something going on that I just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't quite get. It's been really hard to understand how

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<v Speaker 1>companies like Meta can run terrible companies with decaying services

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<v Speaker 1>that are also somehow wildly profitable, or how Meta, Microsoft

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<v Speaker 1>and Google keep proliferating this unprofitable, unsustainable generative AI tech

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<v Speaker 1>that takes water from the desert and strains our power

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<v Speaker 1>grids to produce these deeply mediocre outcomes based on incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>vague promises, and then see their stock presses go up

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<v Speaker 1>despite them not making any money. And I've been craving

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<v Speaker 1>this way too expe the whole growth at all cost mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>I've explained what it is so many times, but there

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<v Speaker 1>is an answer, and it's fairly simple. The customer, and

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<v Speaker 1>by extension, the service provided to the customer, isn't really

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<v Speaker 1>the primary concern of many many companies these days. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all about shareholder value. And while this may seem a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit obvious, it requires also a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a history lesson to really explain how profoundly damaging what

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<v Speaker 1>I call the shareholder supremacy really is. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably going to think, well, we all knew the

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<v Speaker 1>increasing shareholder value was what stocks were about, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>really need you to understand what that means. Our journey

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<v Speaker 1>takes us back almost one hundred years, long before the

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<v Speaker 1>creation of the Internet, the iPhone, Facebook, the Better Offline podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the major things in the tech industry. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about the figures that predate the villains

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<v Speaker 1>I've covered in the past, the Altman's, the Sun Darpichais,

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<v Speaker 1>the probagar Ragavans of the world. But despite their historical

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<v Speaker 1>distance from this current era, these past figures are important

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<v Speaker 1>to know and understand because they fundamentally shaped the culture

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<v Speaker 1>and the psychology of today's managerial elite, and crucially built

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<v Speaker 1>the incentive structures that guide companies into hell. These stories

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<v Speaker 1>explain the often paradoxical motivations of modern capitalism, where those

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<v Speaker 1>who make short term decisions that invariably result in long

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<v Speaker 1>term pain and in many cases decline, see a big reward,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas those who built sustainable businesses that actually innovate and

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<v Speaker 1>don't treat their customers and employees like don't are ignored.

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<v Speaker 1>If not actively maligned for a lack of growth, but

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's time for a history lesson. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixteen, the Ford Motor Company had an idea to

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<v Speaker 1>use its surplus capital to invest in new plants to

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<v Speaker 1>increase productions of Ford's model T car, which the company

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<v Speaker 1>had continually made cheaper, or keeping wages for its workers.

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<v Speaker 1>High Ford, who I should be clear, was a horrible

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<v Speaker 1>piece of shit thankfully burning in hell right now, intended

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<v Speaker 1>to cut dividends to shareholders in favor of investing in

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<v Speaker 1>its employees and infrastructure, which anchored minority shareholders who already

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<v Speaker 1>incensed that Ford had prioritized the company's success and its

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<v Speaker 1>employees happiness over making the stock price go up, leading

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<v Speaker 1>to the famous Dodge versus Ford Motor Company case that

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<v Speaker 1>would define and ultimately doom modern capitalism and in many

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<v Speaker 1>ways birth the growth of all costs rot economy. The

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan Supreme Court found that a business corporation is organized

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<v Speaker 1>and carried on primarily for the profit of the stockholders,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the powers of the directors are to be

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<v Speaker 1>employed for that end, and intimated that cash surpluses should

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<v Speaker 1>not be saved to invest in upcoming projects, but distributed

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<v Speaker 1>to shareholders. Because Ford had shown that it was good

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<v Speaker 1>at making money, Ford was directly forbidden from lowering prices

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<v Speaker 1>and raising employee salaries and forced to issue a dividend

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<v Speaker 1>by a court. That's the free market, baby, That's how

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<v Speaker 1>it used to work, and I guess that's how it

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<v Speaker 1>works nowadays anyway. To be clear, the statement around corporation's

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<v Speaker 1>duty towards shareholders was made a beta dicta. This means

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<v Speaker 1>it was not actually legally binding, despite over one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years of people acting as if it was, citing it

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<v Speaker 1>in cases, using it as a justification to destroy so

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<v Speaker 1>many lives in favor of growth. This statement not even

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<v Speaker 1>a legal precedent. A statement was the beginning of what

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<v Speaker 1>I called the shareholder supremacy. When companies moved away from

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<v Speaker 1>building lasting, sustainable companies that created things that instead became

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<v Speaker 1>these nasty growth bitches that focused on pleasing shareholders. It

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<v Speaker 1>birthed a short term mindset focused on increasingly abstracting a

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<v Speaker 1>company away from the production of goods or services and

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<v Speaker 1>promoting growth mechanics that increased stock valuations and made for

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<v Speaker 1>better balance sheets. The cult of shareholder supremacy, which some

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<v Speaker 1>people call shareholder primacy is one disconnected from production, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd argue humanity it's solf. It's this weird, continual shell

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<v Speaker 1>game where companies do things not to produce, like an

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<v Speaker 1>outcome in real life or a thing that people like

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<v Speaker 1>and pay for, but to manipulate investors in the markets themselves,

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<v Speaker 1>though at this point kind of feels like investors and

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<v Speaker 1>markets are kind of in on the con These tactics

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<v Speaker 1>should be immediately recognizable to anyone who's followed my work

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<v Speaker 1>over the last few years. If a company share price

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<v Speaker 1>to clients and management smells a shareholder revolt, they can

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<v Speaker 1>induce their numbers by laying off a few thousand workers

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<v Speaker 1>or adopting of specious new technology like generative AYI or

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<v Speaker 1>the metaverse and then doing a big media blitz to

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<v Speaker 1>show everyone how cool and growth hungry they are. Or

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<v Speaker 1>they can do the really annoying thing, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>share buyback program where the company just buys its own stock,

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<v Speaker 1>which then bumps the value of the stock. That whole

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<v Speaker 1>situation I really need to look into more because it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem good. And also on top of that, that

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<v Speaker 1>money is being diverted away from research and development. And

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<v Speaker 1>employees sees. And it was this movement, this shareholder supremacy movement,

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<v Speaker 1>that created the nebulous creature known as management. I realize

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<v Speaker 1>there are many definitions of management, but the manager we

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<v Speaker 1>see today is a figurehead that exists at increased company

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<v Speaker 1>value and make speeches rather than have any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>domain expertise or bona fides. They're just a person with

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to move numbers around and point of people

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<v Speaker 1>and say get this done, even if this, in this

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<v Speaker 1>case means makes something worse as a means of cutting

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<v Speaker 1>costs or layoff a few thousand people so that number

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<v Speaker 1>go up in the eyes of the shareholders supremacist. The

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of a tech company isn't someone that builds, or

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<v Speaker 1>invests in or proliferates technology, but a kind of stage

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<v Speaker 1>magician accountant hybrid that uses a combination of sleight of hand,

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<v Speaker 1>and they promises to convince those around them that a

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<v Speaker 1>company is of future, occasionally resulting in the company developing

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<v Speaker 1>something involving technology. Yet it took decades for the damage

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<v Speaker 1>from Ford versus Dodge to really set in when in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty A horrible little Man, a goblin creature worse

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<v Speaker 1>than hell called Jack Welch would join a company called

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<v Speaker 1>General Electric, one founded co founded i should say, by

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<v Speaker 1>light bulb inventor Thomas Edison, to sell things like light

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<v Speaker 1>bobs and refrigerators, and yes, I know, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>military stuff too, but putting that aside for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>Welch originally joined the company as a junior chemical engineer,

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<v Speaker 1>a job he lasted him for roughly one year before

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<v Speaker 1>he was given the power of the manager. I really

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<v Speaker 1>cannot express enough how bad Jack Welch was for the world.

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<v Speaker 1>He is damaged to the world itself, to global economies,

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<v Speaker 1>to the hundreds of thousands of people laid off because

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<v Speaker 1>he taught people how to do this. He is on

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<v Speaker 1>the scale of a war criminal. I'm sure he has

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<v Speaker 1>led to actual deaths, but he's definitely ruined lives. He

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<v Speaker 1>showed corporate America how unprofitable having a soul was. He is,

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<v Speaker 1>to quote Robert Evans on behind the bastards. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>you were laid off, you and every single other person

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<v Speaker 1>who was laid off to make a company more money.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll get to them. Eight years into his tenure,

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<v Speaker 1>Welsh would become the VP and head of General Electrics

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<v Speaker 1>Plastics division, and to quote David Gallis's The Man who

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<v Speaker 1>Broke Capitalism, believed that business was a Darwinian competition where

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<v Speaker 1>he was better than the rest, which caused him to

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<v Speaker 1>push g to the limits. In practice, this meant that Welch,

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<v Speaker 1>as the manager of a factory trying to develop a

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<v Speaker 1>new kind of plastic in nineteen sixty three, continually pushed

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<v Speaker 1>his team to move faster, run more experiments, whatever it took,

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<v Speaker 1>which led to a massive explosion at the factory thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to Welsh pushing his scientists to use an untested process

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<v Speaker 1>where oxygen moved through a highly volatile solution. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>listened to the Behind the bar Asked episode, don't worry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to go over all of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have my own nasty little take now. Kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like Robert said on Behind the Bastards, one would think

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd get fired for blowing up a factory, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if it was your decision making that led to the explosion,

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<v Speaker 1>But this story instead became a kind of noxious management

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<v Speaker 1>consultant fable about failure and was, to quote David Gellis,

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<v Speaker 1>a point of pride for Welch, one that demonstrated a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy appetite for risk. Welch became g's head of Plastics

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<v Speaker 1>five years later in nineteen sixty eight, and would use

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<v Speaker 1>his aggressive and dangerous tactics to grow Moral, a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of plastic that's well suited for things like electronics, into

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollar business, and crucially, becoming head of plastics

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<v Speaker 1>gave Welch his very first stock options and potentially his

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<v Speaker 1>first erection, which in turn began his obsession with stock

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<v Speaker 1>valuations and I'm, of course referring to the stock options

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<v Speaker 1>giving him that obsession. In nineteen seventy seven, Welch was

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<v Speaker 1>one of a chosen few in line to take over

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<v Speaker 1>the then CEO, Reg Jones, and was handed a series

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<v Speaker 1>of business units to run as a test to see

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<v Speaker 1>if he had it in him, including G's appliance businesses

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<v Speaker 1>and most important of all, ge Credit, which I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>back to in a minute, because it's extremely bad what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with that. As Gellis recounts, Welch decided that despite

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<v Speaker 1>its profitability and continued growth, Appliances would face competition from

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<v Speaker 1>overseas and that the right move was to start laying

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<v Speaker 1>people off. This was a huge success at the company

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<v Speaker 1>in so far as it boosted profits, and other divisions

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<v Speaker 1>copied his idea gleefully firing thousands of people from a

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<v Speaker 1>company that grew successful by investing in making itself a

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<v Speaker 1>great place to work. It's so good. I love all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. It makes me happy. I don't feel angry

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<v Speaker 1>at all anyway. To quote gallous, Welch dispensed with the

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<v Speaker 1>notion that mass layoffs were a measure of last resort

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<v Speaker 1>and labor was a cost, not an asset. Before Welch,

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<v Speaker 1>layoffs were something that happened when the company was collapsing,

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<v Speaker 1>not as a means of boosting one's balance sheet. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Welch, Thank you very fucking much. I'm actually not

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<v Speaker 1>being angry enough here. There is no way to show

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<v Speaker 1>how angry a person should be at Jack Welch for this.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope he burns in goddamn hell with Henry Kissinger, Anna,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Reagan and Maggie Thatcher and the rest of these bastards.

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<v Speaker 1>I should do a shirt around the assholes. That does

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<v Speaker 1>sound good, anyway. Forget all that for a second. We

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<v Speaker 1>have a podcast to record, continuing the story about this

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<v Speaker 1>piece of shit. Welch would become CEO in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>one and in the space of two years, would layoff

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<v Speaker 1>over seventy two thousand people. One tactic he would employee

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<v Speaker 1>with stack ranking, or so known as their vitality curve,

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<v Speaker 1>or as you'll soon understand why, rank and yank, where

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<v Speaker 1>high ranking managers were forced to rank their subordinates and

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<v Speaker 1>fire the bottom ten percent. This tactic later spread to

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<v Speaker 1>and poison countless other companies, including Amazon, Google, Activision, Blizzard,

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<v Speaker 1>and Microsoft, which has since stopped using it. It's worth noting, though,

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<v Speaker 1>that not every implementation of stack ranking usually results in

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<v Speaker 1>immediate payroll carts. Those perceived as low performers may be

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<v Speaker 1>denied bonuses or raises, or issued warnings or put on

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<v Speaker 1>a performance improvement plan, which is almost always a precursor

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<v Speaker 1>to a firing, kind of like taking a break from

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<v Speaker 1>a relationship, or they're just encouraged to leave or bullied

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<v Speaker 1>into doing so. But even in the most benign for

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<v Speaker 1>lack of a better word, form, it's a pretty horrendous

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<v Speaker 1>management tool. If you have a team of ten excellent workers,

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<v Speaker 1>but only eight can get a bonus or a positive ranking,

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<v Speaker 1>you have two left out who were considered inadequate, not

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<v Speaker 1>based on a lipmus of whether they're good at their jobs,

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<v Speaker 1>but whether they're not as good at their jobs as

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<v Speaker 1>other people. You pretty much guaranteed to kill morale and

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<v Speaker 1>team cohesion. But perhaps that was the point. Welch's nasty,

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<v Speaker 1>shitty little philosophies have deeply damaged the concept of management itself,

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<v Speaker 1>turning managers into these tiny little accountants that see labor,

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<v Speaker 1>as Welsch did, as a cost center, and managers as

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<v Speaker 1>this protected class above the fray. They don't do work.

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<v Speaker 1>They tell you to do work. Their job is showing

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<v Speaker 1>your work to someone else and saying it's theirs. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the ones telling you that you must come back to

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<v Speaker 1>the office, despite the fact that you can't tell what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell they're doing all day. They're there all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but they don't seem to produce anything other than reports.

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<v Speaker 1>These people are a direct symptom of the poison in

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<v Speaker 1>the veins of capitalism, which I know is far from

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<v Speaker 1>god damn perfect, but it's so much worse than it

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<v Speaker 1>was caused by Jack Welch, who reframed the definition of

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<v Speaker 1>a good company to mean one that grows profits while

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<v Speaker 1>controlling labor costs, and this is how Jack Welch got

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<v Speaker 1>the nickname neutron Jack, referring to the thermonuclear bond that

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<v Speaker 1>kills people but leaves infrastructure intact. But I mentioned GE

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<v Speaker 1>credit earlier for a reason. G credit was where Jack

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<v Speaker 1>Welch would really make his marking get into the guts

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<v Speaker 1>of the business. General Electric was at a time a reliable, profitable,

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<v Speaker 1>and sustainable company, and was able to fairly easily mobilize capital, which,

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<v Speaker 1>of course Jack Welch loved, claiming that compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>industrial operations, I did know this business seemed an easy

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<v Speaker 1>way to make money, and that you didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>invest heavily in R and D, build factories and bend

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<v Speaker 1>metal to make money off of credit. In the first

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<v Speaker 1>few years of his tenure, Welch would aggressively expand, According

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<v Speaker 1>to David Ellis, is the man who destroyed capitalism, G credit,

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<v Speaker 1>buying up companies that had nothing to do with manufacturing,

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<v Speaker 1>including Kidder Peabody, an investment bank that would eventually turn

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<v Speaker 1>out to have falsified three hundred and fifty million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>in profits, a thing that also didn't get Jack Welsh fired.

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<v Speaker 1>G Capital would expand internationally, ballooning to three hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>seventy billion dollars in assets by the time that Welch

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<v Speaker 1>left the company in two thousand and one. According to Gallison,

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<v Speaker 1>likely referencing a CNN article and including the links a

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<v Speaker 1>one point, G Capital was America's largest equipment leaser, leasing

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of vehicles, handling credit operations for companies

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<v Speaker 1>like Kodak, becoming a backbone of America's increasingly debt ridden economy.

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<v Speaker 1>To quote Gallus, by the time that Welch left, G

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<v Speaker 1>Capital was effectively a giant, unregulated bank investing in all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of risky debt instruments, including insurance products, credit cards.

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<v Speaker 1>I think even like tai auto loans. It's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And crucially, Welch's legacy is one where at the time

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<v Speaker 1>he was considered a genius that had taken General Electrics

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<v Speaker 1>market cap, which is just the sum of all available shares,

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<v Speaker 1>from fourteen billion dollars to four hundred billion dollars, all

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<v Speaker 1>through a very specific kind of financial trickery where g

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<v Speaker 1>would move things around, laying people off, buying new companies,

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<v Speaker 1>selling old companies, getting into new industries to match the

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<v Speaker 1>numerical analyst expectations and make earnings targets. In a fawning

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<v Speaker 1>and quite embarrassing piece from nineteen ninety seven, years before

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<v Speaker 1>Welch would leave and G Credit would actually lead to

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<v Speaker 1>its collapse in some levels, reporter John Curran describes how

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<v Speaker 1>G Capital grew by seeing new opportunities and immediately growing

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<v Speaker 1>a new business in any new market it could, taking

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of Capital's low cost of funds. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>both leasing equipment to companies and buying it back, refurnishing

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<v Speaker 1>it and selling it to other companies, which isn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>a bad business, but but at this point, how many

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<v Speaker 1>goddamn businesses can you be in Jack where you can't

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<v Speaker 1>be in any You're burning in hell? What a shame.

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<v Speaker 1>In the space of a few decades, Welch had taken

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<v Speaker 1>General Electric from a company that made light bulbs and

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerators and plastics to one that continually played with the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers as a means of boosting its stock price, including

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<v Speaker 1>a ten billion dollar stock buy back in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>and The New York Times as John Hallushah noted that

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<v Speaker 1>g was only investing two point four percent of its

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<v Speaker 1>revenues in research and development, nearly a full percentage point

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<v Speaker 1>below in the national average at the time. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I really want to take a step back and just

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<v Speaker 1>point at that, which is this was the first company

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<v Speaker 1>that really just fucked with capitalism. And there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>separate episode if I wanted to win. The economist Milton Freeman,

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<v Speaker 1>who is also a scumbag boy also Hope is burning

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<v Speaker 1>in hell rant side note, what ge went from, what

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<v Speaker 1>G became. G was able to raise these funds. They

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<v Speaker 1>were able to grow so big and do all this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because they come He was so reliable, They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have terrible turnover, They had happy employees, they had sustainable products,

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<v Speaker 1>they had their own products, their own patents, they owned,

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<v Speaker 1>they had scientists that worked there for decades. And then

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Welch came along and destroyed all of that while

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<v Speaker 1>making it quote a better company, what a worse company.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the man who taught the market how to

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<v Speaker 1>eat shit and love it. I am sorry, that's gross,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's really what we're looking at here. To be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, General Electric was an absolute dog of

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<v Speaker 1>a company. As David Gellis noted in a Reddit thread,

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<v Speaker 1>Welch operated at a time before Sarbines Oxley a sweeping

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<v Speaker 1>series of financial reforms instituted after the Enron scandal that

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<v Speaker 1>required companies to do these annoying little things like disclose

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<v Speaker 1>off balance sheet financial arrangements. So you know a series

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<v Speaker 1>of loans or credit agreements you made with someone that

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<v Speaker 1>are not on your balance sheet. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how that was e and many other financial disclosures were

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<v Speaker 1>also required that would have likely made what Jack Welch

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<v Speaker 1>was doing before this a lot harder to play, which

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<v Speaker 1>Welsh claimed in two thousand and two would suck risk

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<v Speaker 1>out of the system and cause people to not go

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<v Speaker 1>for their dream gross way of pertinent Jack, but also wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>These things only made people get a little bit clever.

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<v Speaker 1>But Welch's tenure was one that destroyed General Electric's ability

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<v Speaker 1>to innovate while turning it into one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>wildly profitable companies in the world, all through this nihilistic

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<v Speaker 1>form of capitalism where growth is really all that matters,

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<v Speaker 1>even if it means making worse products, constantly entering and

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<v Speaker 1>exiting industries, reducing spending in research and development for the

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<v Speaker 1>products that made your company's name, outsourcing multiple parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the company to avoid paying benefits and higher American wages

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<v Speaker 1>and generally treating human beings like an inanimate asset. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're thinking this sounds like every company, this is

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<v Speaker 1>why this is the guy. As a result of all

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<v Speaker 1>of this, when Welch left General Electric, it entered a

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<v Speaker 1>prolonged period of the client as it became obvious that

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<v Speaker 1>it had become, as Gellis had called it, a giant

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<v Speaker 1>previously at least unregulated bank one operating in too many

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<v Speaker 1>industries in a new regulatory environment that worked against them.

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<v Speaker 1>General Electric, in its bloated messi asset portfolio, were central

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<v Speaker 1>to the two thousand and eight financial crisis, with G

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<v Speaker 1>capital overexposed to the crisis while also invested in subprime

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<v Speaker 1>mortgages that would eventually see the company find one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half billion dollars by the SEC. Though g would

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<v Speaker 1>still make nearly half of its profits from its financial

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<v Speaker 1>arm in twenty thirteen, it would also sell off most

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<v Speaker 1>of it for twenty six and a half billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>starting in twenty fifteen. And while one might say wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this was a great moment where the company moved away

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<v Speaker 1>from Jack Welch's legacy, the company would then proudly announce

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<v Speaker 1>that this would allow them to return ninety billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to investors in the form of stockby and dividends by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen, promise I'm not actually sure it ever kept,

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<v Speaker 1>though it recently announced it planned a fifteen billion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>buyback in May. Ah nah, Well, this just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a con. I realized that this was an

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<v Speaker 1>extremely long and arduous history lesson, but it's necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>express the incredible evil and darkness that was Jack Welch

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<v Speaker 1>and his horrifying legacy is poisonous philosophy, that everything must grow,

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<v Speaker 1>that the value of the company is only that which

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<v Speaker 1>it returns to the shareholders, and that human beings are

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<v Speaker 1>a cost to be moderated. These are all things that

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<v Speaker 1>have been inherited by companies you know today, not just

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<v Speaker 1>in tech as well, but I mean, look at Meta,

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<v Speaker 1>look at Google, look at Microsoft. Microsoft. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>week laid off over one thousand people and they posted

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<v Speaker 1>I think over over ten billion dollars a profit, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>more than that. It's all Jack Welch. It's all MBAs

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<v Speaker 1>following Jack Welch. During Jack Welch's tenure, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>he ran something that I found really gross on top

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<v Speaker 1>of all the other stuff that was gross, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was something that David Gallis referred to as a campaign

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<v Speaker 1>against loyalty, claiming that the psychological contract has to change

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<v Speaker 1>and that loyalty, to Jack Welch was not giving time

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<v Speaker 1>to some corporate entity in return for shielding and protection

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<v Speaker 1>from the outside world. You know, some kind of value

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<v Speaker 1>exchange where your labor is traded and they keep you

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<v Speaker 1>because you're good at the job and you want the

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<v Speaker 1>job done well. No, no, no. What Jack Welch believed

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<v Speaker 1>loyalty was was an infinity among people who want to

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<v Speaker 1>grapple with the outside world and win, I assume by

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<v Speaker 1>blowing up factories and acquiring fraudulent investment banks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>moving fast and breaking things, the meritocracy, making the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>look right. All of these things that you hear, all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things that Jack Welch did, have been picked

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<v Speaker 1>up and run with by companies that you've worked for,

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<v Speaker 1>Companies that you've worked with, Companies that you've seen fire

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<v Speaker 1>people as they make billions of dollars. Where do you

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<v Speaker 1>think these people learned it from? Where do you think

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<v Speaker 1>people gained the ability to run a company that binged

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<v Speaker 1>and purged assets like Google, taking on entirely new, unrelated

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<v Speaker 1>business lines as a means of expressing growth to the markets,

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<v Speaker 1>like Facebook did when it acquired Oculus and WhatsApp. And still,

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<v Speaker 1>despite your legacy being one of abject destruction and recklessness,

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<v Speaker 1>like Mark Zuckerberg, you still get called an amazing leader

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<v Speaker 1>by The New York Times as recently as twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>After hundreds of articles and multiple books talk about how

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<v Speaker 1>bad you are a business, there's still people telling you

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<v Speaker 1>you're good. Why do you think Mark Zuckerberg is still celebrated?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that Wanka gets to fuck around

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<v Speaker 1>on a goddamn hoverboard sailing across with an American flag

0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:04.680
<v Speaker 1>and people go ooh, mister Zuckerberg, You're so impressive. Fuck

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<v Speaker 1>that guy, Fuck them all. I'm sorry, I know i'm ranting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm no, I'm pissed. But when I read this story back,

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<v Speaker 1>when I see this, it's like watching someone give a

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<v Speaker 1>disease to someone else deliberately and then check in to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they're still sick years later. And the anger

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<v Speaker 1>I feel, as I've mentioned in other episodes, is because

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Welch is also the reason why there's not as

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<v Speaker 1>much money going into research and development. He showed tech

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<v Speaker 1>companies how to do it. He showed other companies how

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. This man is the outbreak monkey of

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<v Speaker 1>the rot economy. His dark influence has deeply poisoned American

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<v Speaker 1>capitalism and created an environment where the only good companies

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<v Speaker 1>are those that grow forever. His acolytes include David Calhoun,

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<v Speaker 1>once considered in line to replace him at GE, who

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<v Speaker 1>later moved on to Boeing, where he worked as a

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<v Speaker 1>director of the board from two thousand and nine until

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<v Speaker 1>he became the lead independent director in twenty eighteen and

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<v Speaker 1>then chairman in twenty nineteen and then CEO in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>a period in which he was accused of strip mining

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<v Speaker 1>Boeing by pushing to cut costs with aggressive outsourcing. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you worked out weathers is going yep. During his tenure,

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<v Speaker 1>two Boeing seven three seven Max eights crashed, one in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen just outside of Jakarta, killing one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty nine people, and another in twenty nineteen en route

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<v Speaker 1>Nairobi that killed one hundred and fifty seven, followed by

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<v Speaker 1>a door flying off an Alaska Airlines fight in January

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four that led to an investigation where Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>Airlines claim that it found many loose bolts on its

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<v Speaker 1>now grounded Boeing Max nine planes. Bob Nardelli, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the three finalists at g that competed to take over

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<v Speaker 1>if the Welch got the job, went on to become

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO of the Home Depot in two thousand. He

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<v Speaker 1>boosted profits immediately by aggressively cutting costs, and when the

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<v Speaker 1>stock didn't stay competitive with lows, which is for non

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<v Speaker 1>American listeners. Another hardware store, nar Delli, chose to cut

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<v Speaker 1>experienced full time employees in favor of part time workers,

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<v Speaker 1>eroding Home Depots already shaky position in the market, until

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<v Speaker 1>he was paid two hundred and ten million dollars to

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<v Speaker 1>leave the company in two thousand and seven. Robert Sophie,

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<v Speaker 1>I will take two hundred and ten million dollars. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my cost. Otherwise the podcast will continue. Every single one

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<v Speaker 1>of these men fails upwards because shareholders supremacy is what

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<v Speaker 1>truly dominates the markets and modern capitalism. It's this sense

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<v Speaker 1>that what matters is growth and shareholder value, even if

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<v Speaker 1>shareholder value really means making a very specific group of

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<v Speaker 1>people richer and showing perpetual growth to match the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>of Wall Street. Welch himself he had this one really

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<v Speaker 1>disgraceful way of putting it, that you can't grow long

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<v Speaker 1>term if you can't eat short term, and that the

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<v Speaker 1>main social responsibility for a company is to win. The

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<v Speaker 1>crucial way to summarize Jack Welch was that he was

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<v Speaker 1>for the majority of his career not actually engaging in

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<v Speaker 1>the pross of labor or doing any work. He started

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<v Speaker 1>as a chemical engineer at General Electric in nineteen sixty,

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<v Speaker 1>but was a high ranking manager three years later, no

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<v Speaker 1>longer participating in the actual process that made the company rich.

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<v Speaker 1>As Welch grew more powerful in the organization, he further

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<v Speaker 1>distanced himself in production. By the time he was CEO

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen eighty one, Jack Welch hadn't done a real

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<v Speaker 1>job in nearly twenty years. Under Welch, General Electric distance

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<v Speaker 1>itself from producing things too, and taught the economy that

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<v Speaker 1>one didn't have to run a good business to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good company, just one with the right numbers. And

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing all of this, it's important to note that Welch

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<v Speaker 1>was until fairly recently, as I've mentioned, considered a hero,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow one of the first people to criticize him

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<v Speaker 1>was Malcolm Gladwell in October twenty twenty two, only a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks before The New York Times would publish

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<v Speaker 1>a piece calling Welch an amazing leader who inspired his

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues to accomplish more. Because Welch's horrifying methods were so

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<v Speaker 1>effective at boosting stock prey, he was at a time

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<v Speaker 1>considered one of America's greatest CEOs, with Forbes calling him

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<v Speaker 1>a managerial genius and one of the greatest business minds

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. No hate to my friends at Forbes,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also put Sam Bakmanfree Elizabeth Holmes on the

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<v Speaker 1>cover you gave the Clink, or Guy thirty under thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>despite that all being made up to you gotta lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually check these companies out anyway. The problem is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Moniker greatest CEO, in part thanks to Welch, no

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<v Speaker 1>longer means somebody who makes a good company with happy

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<v Speaker 1>customers and sustainable profits that will stand the test of time.

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<v Speaker 1>A CEO is no longer a person that built a

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<v Speaker 1>company and runs it to provide a service, but the

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<v Speaker 1>person that can make the company look good on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning that the company in question looks like it's growing,

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<v Speaker 1>either in quarterly earnings or when presented to a dipsh

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<v Speaker 1>adventure capitalist that hasn't participated in any kind of work

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<v Speaker 1>or production in years or decades. Executives of companies are

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<v Speaker 1>no longer people that built things, that take that expertise

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe try and build it further on a national

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<v Speaker 1>or global scale. But this rotating cast of like skexist

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<v Speaker 1>style people from the dark Crystal with Masters of business

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<v Speaker 1>administration from Ivy League universities that all have had jobs

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<v Speaker 1>with product in the name for ten years or twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years beforehand. People that have the right credentials who can

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<v Speaker 1>continually fail at their jobs, much like prabagar Ragavan did

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<v Speaker 1>when he took over Google Search after running Yahoo into

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, because they're not measured at being good at anything,

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<v Speaker 1>because really, what is a CEO at this point? They're

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<v Speaker 1>not measured on efficacy. They're measured on their ability to

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<v Speaker 1>increase numbers, to make the number go up, and these

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<v Speaker 1>metrics are often esoteric ways to express growth, something that

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<v Speaker 1>David Gellis reports was commonplace in Welch's world, where senior

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<v Speaker 1>management would just adjust inventory to show the appearance of profit.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling that and this is a quote that the only

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<v Speaker 1>way to achieve the enormous increases in sales and profits

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<v Speaker 1>was to bend the rules. Little note for edheads here,

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the Facebook episode the Facebook two party did,

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<v Speaker 1>but specifically the people killing Facebook. There was a bit

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<v Speaker 1>in that episode where I mentioned how people were trying

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<v Speaker 1>not to gain the system, they were afraid of being

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to gain the system because Mark Zuckerberg wanted ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent year over year perpetual growth in these growth metrics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing, and it's all thanks to Jack Welch,

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<v Speaker 1>who gave birth to this monstrous fake business person and

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<v Speaker 1>this culture of the overpaid and ever distant manager and

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<v Speaker 1>chief executive, a con artist that moves numbers around to

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<v Speaker 1>make rich people happy, one that will never and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>never has participated in the value exchange that makes them rich,

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<v Speaker 1>or while lacking any real appreciation or respect for labor

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<v Speaker 1>or the products, or the company or really anything, all

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<v Speaker 1>while demanding complete fealty from the workers that they have

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<v Speaker 1>no respect for. These people have now mentored themselves across

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<v Speaker 1>generations of business freaks, hiring them and training others to

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<v Speaker 1>be like them, poisoning private and public companies and investment

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<v Speaker 1>firms and landlords. And they're everywhere now, these people, these

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<v Speaker 1>people who find ways to abstract themselves away from creating

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<v Speaker 1>value while extracting as much of it as possible. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's exactly this type of person that's currently destroying Silicon Valley.

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<v Speaker 1>In the next episode, I'll show you exactly how damaging

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Welch's growth. The all cost legacy has been to

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<v Speaker 1>the tech industry, leading to the rise of a special

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<v Speaker 1>kind of specious management consultant personality that creates nothing while

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<v Speaker 1>taking everything. Here's a preview, though. Want to know who

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<v Speaker 1>recommends Jack Welch's winning yet, Sam Oltman. Anyway, see your

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