1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Let's get now to Bloomberg Asia Energy reported down Mortel, 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: who joins US from Beijing to discuss China's severe drought 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: and power crosses factory shutting down as this extreme heat 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: wave strains energy grids with Situan hottest hit, I mean, 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: this is quite a dire situation down and just really 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: adding to China's economic woes. Tell us what we're seeing 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: and the impact here to these factories being shut down. Yeah, well, Jules, 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: as you know, I lived in Singapore for several years, 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: and Central China is putting Singapore's heat to shame. It's 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: been above above forty degrees for most of the last 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: two months, uh, certainly above thirty five just about every day. 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: The heatwave there has dried up the youngs River, one 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: of the biggest rivers in the world, to the point 14 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: that riverbanks are exposed for for more than ten meters 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: in a lot of places in Wuhan where we visited. 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: Uh and that's created two big problems for for China's 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: energy system. One is that air conditioning demand has gone 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: through the roof in Sichuan Province, like the daily peak 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: US has jumped by from just a year ago and 20 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, China is the world's biggest hydropower generator. 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: Big damn projects like the Three Gorges produce a lot 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: of energy, and the river is so low that they're 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: producing about fifty less power right now than they were 24 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: just a little while ago. So those two things are 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: going in and Sichuan has had to shut basically power 26 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: off to almost all of its industrial users for basically 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: the past ten days to be able to keep lights 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: and air conditioners on at people's homes, and it's starting 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: to spread beyond that too. Uh Shanghai, for example, has 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: shut off the lights for its skyscrapers in the bund area, 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: so you don't see that beautiful skyline right now. Um Juhan, 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: We went to a mall where only half the escalators 33 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: were working. The air conditioner was kept up at a 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: much higher rate than normal. So there's lots of little 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: conservation efforts hate happening throughout the country. In addition to 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: the really severe cuts in in Sichuan, the country also 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: has the largest fleet of solar panels and wind turbans. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: I wonder whether or not that has helped has has 39 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: has that been able to replace some of the laws 40 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: supply honestly, not really. So Sichuan has a very unique 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: uh power structure in that about eight percent of its 42 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 1: generation capacity is these hydro power dams. You know. So 43 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: sich One is famously the mute, mountainous and beautiful with 44 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: rivers everywhere, and so they've always been able to rely 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: on hydro power dams. They only have a little bit 46 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: of wind and solar, and they only have a little 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: bit of cold power plants, so they haven't had much 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: to fall back on once this drought really took hold. Uh. 49 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: I think if when you look out into the future, 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: China's going to be doing a couple of things to 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: try to uh make sure the situation doesn't happen again. 52 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: One thing is that they're gonna try to improve the 53 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: interconnectedness within its power grids within the country so that 54 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: some of these wind and solar um installations all around 55 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: the country that you're talking about can getting into Sichuan 56 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: and relieve the pre sure in the future down. What 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: does this have in terms of an impact to China's growth? 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we're already grappling with the COVID zero policy, 59 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: with the property slowdown. What are economists saying in terms 60 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: of the power outages impacting GDP targets, it's certainly not 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 1: going to help. Most economists say that, you know, we're 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: it's basically August fifty have been the really severe power 63 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: cutoffs in Sichuan, and Sichuan accounts for about five percent 64 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: of Chinese GDP. So unless the heat wave lasts longer, 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: in the power outages lasts longer, or these ripple on 66 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: effects in the other provinces get worse than it are 67 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: than we're seeing right now, they don't think that there 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: will be a noticeable impact on the national GDP. But 69 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: what's happening is several industries have very key supply chain 70 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: hubs in Sichuan. Um sich One is a big producer 71 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: of polysilicon for solar panels, for example, or lithium chemicals 72 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: for e V batteries, and so we're going to see 73 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: ripple effects in those industries. UH continuing down this pledge 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: and for the next couple of weeks and maybe even months, 75 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: with hydro power cuts so much that output is it 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: likely we're just going to see a lot more coal 77 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: burned in these these days. Yeah. Absolutely. Brand At the 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: beginning of this year, the first half of this year, 79 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: China actually burned less cold than last year because it 80 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: was really rainy and hydropower generation surged. It was up 81 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: about over the first six months, but that it has 82 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: just completely reversed. We've seen the in August so far 83 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: coal burning has been up by about fift And you know, frankly, 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: this isn't you know once once these heat waves go 85 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 1: away and air conditioning goes down and the power curves 86 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: end in sich One, this isn't going to be the 87 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: end of the problem because we're going to spend the 88 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: rest of this year. These reservoirs aren't going to get 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: repleted right away, and so the hydro power generation is 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: going to be pretty low for a while. And that 91 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: means China is going to have to go out and 92 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: import more gas, and import more coal, and mind more 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: coal to power its country. That's going to put in 94 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: on a collision course with European nations that are out 95 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: there right now driving up power or driving up prices 96 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: of coal and gas to make sure that they get 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: heated for the winter. Just finally and quickly down. What 98 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: does all this mean for for global food supply, because 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: as you say, it's not just happening in China, and 100 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: we know what's happening in India and affecting rice planning 101 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: areas too. Yeah, I mean, this is the scary thing 102 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: is we don't really know yet how bad the impact 103 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: on agriculture is going to be. We see pictures of 104 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: crop lands or scorched torch and we're hoping that, you know, 105 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: the farmers are able to maintain crop yields, but so 106 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: far that that's going to be the big thing to 107 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: watch in the coming months is how badly this damages 108 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: crops and you know, the biggest food consuming country in 109 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: the world. All right, terrible news. Thank you. Dan as 110 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: always down at Bertel Bloomberg as Asia Energy reporter with 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: us in Beijing. Fascinating piece by the Bloomberg team. They're 112 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: about China's historic drought, spawning this power crisis and being 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: a new test for President. She