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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 1: This is the Route Tree broadcasting live on Dallascowboys dot

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Speaker 2: Now your host Drew Pearson.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to the Route Tree, starring myself

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Speaker 3: the original number eighty eight NFL Hall of Famer, Dallas

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Speaker 3: Cowboy Ring of Honor. Remember, and this is a show

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Speaker 3: where we showcase legends of the game, get insights and

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Speaker 3: share the great stories that they bring about the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 3: about the past, about the present. So let's get ready

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Speaker 3: for another ride on the Route Tree. Route we're going

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Speaker 3: to run today. Let's run that sixth route course. We

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Speaker 3: got a great guest with us. Before we get to them,

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Speaker 3: let me make a couple announcements because nine seniors have

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Speaker 3: reached the semi final stage of the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 3: of Fame Class of twenty twenty six. Ken Anderson, Roger Craig,

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Speaker 3: Henry Ellard Else Greenwood, Joe Jacobi, Eddie Medder. I remember

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Speaker 3: him from way back to the day.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: He is Stanley road Runner, Morgan and Steve Trasker Special

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Speaker 3: Teams Guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about those guys getting it, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And the great otis Taylor from the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 3: and I see that and say, he's not in already. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I'm in the hall and he's not. And then we

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Speaker 3: got also the passing of the Great Paul Tagleboo and

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Speaker 3: also a Hall of Famer Kenny Easley, and we send

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Speaker 3: our condolences to their families and we're gonna miss them

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Speaker 3: in their space at the Hall, but we will honor

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Speaker 3: them anyway on the Shrineman for the twenty twenty six class.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of Hall of Famers, we got a Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer with us, not just the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: He's a Ring of Honor guy. He's like over me.

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Speaker 3: You know, I can't get rid of him. Former cowboy,

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Speaker 3: That's what I am, all right, Ring of Honor guy,

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Speaker 3: that's what I am. We went in on the same

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Speaker 3: in the same class to twenty twenty eleven, and now

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Speaker 3: we're in the Hall of Fame together. Man, I can't

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Speaker 3: get rid of you. Charles Hanley. Welcome Charles Haley to

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Speaker 2: Brother. Good to see you, man, man.

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Speaker 4: God, I am blessed man. It's been a great year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you say that, it's not just health, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of good things must be falling into place

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Speaker 3: for you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 5: My daughter had triplets, oh wow. And then she turned

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Speaker 5: around and had another one. So I got four grandkids

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Speaker 5: and that's been just wonderful. It helps me with serenity, yeah,

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Speaker 5: because I don't allow people to bring trash into my life.

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Speaker 5: So man, that helps me. You don't get over issues

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Speaker 5: and problem Amen.

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Speaker 3: So we got another Charles Haley coming through the family

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Speaker 3: that we can anticipate.

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Speaker 4: Wait on, I ain't gonna be another Charles Hayley.

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Speaker 3: Man, I hear you, not abound the five times Super

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Speaker 3: Bowl champ.

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Speaker 2: Ain't nobody ever accomplished that.

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Speaker 4: Don't hate me.

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Speaker 3: Come on, manah, five time super Bowl champ.

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Speaker 2: Oh, but you know you can leave Jones call.

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Speaker 4: You gonna leave your phone on right now.

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Speaker 2: That's mister Jones call making sure you were here.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I'll let you make it.

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Speaker 3: I hear you, man, But that's that distinction, you know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if anybody ever will accomplish that. When

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Speaker 3: I see certain distinctive stats, you know, like as far

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Speaker 2: That Jerry Rice's stats. He's out there.

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Speaker 3: Ain't nobody ever going to reach that stratosphere, especially in

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Speaker 3: But five time, so we're both champ who's gonna match that?

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Speaker 3: And then what three with Dallas and two with San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, since it was the greatest ride that you could

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Speaker 2: Well, you better do it and run because Ronnie lot

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Speaker 5: I know, he's a man of his word and so

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Speaker 5: he's tough. He told me, you know, he said, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: See, it's those kind of teammates that you had with

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Speaker 3: that only not only that, but the coaching as well.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got to talk about that first.

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Speaker 3: Then we'll talk about some of the teammates you played

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Speaker 3: with on both sides, But the coaching all right, Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how's that?

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Speaker 4: Man, It's night and day. They are total opsites, are they? Oh?

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Speaker 4: My god.

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Speaker 5: Bill Walsh was a more I think.

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Speaker 4: Intellect type guy.

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Speaker 5: He he he pushes you through acknowledge, you know. He said,

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Speaker 5: I don't want dumb players around me. So we had

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Speaker 5: to learn a lot of different things, and I think

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Speaker 5: he pushed me to be better than I was. And

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Speaker 5: that's why I learned everybody position on the whole defense

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Speaker 5: if somebody needs some help, I'm right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's important that the teammates can help

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Speaker 5: You know, the game is about leadership. And I was

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Speaker 5: Joe Montanna, Roger Craig, you know, and Kena. All these

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Speaker 5: like I played there five years man, and just coming

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's even more special because you're coming from

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the forty nine ers. The Raiders wanted me,

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Speaker 5: and they offered more than the Cowboys, but Joyce Sefer

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Speaker 4: I've never met a man like that.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you no matter what you did, he couldn't be happy. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, we could win by a hunter the points,

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Speaker 4: Oh my god. Hey. He was a little hitler, Okay,

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Speaker 4: a little hitler. My way, my way on the highway.

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Speaker 5: You know, there was no other way but his way,

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Speaker 5: and you know all my My thing with him is

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Speaker 5: that words have meaning, and so choose your words wisely.

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Speaker 2: Amen. Amen.

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Speaker 4: That was that was me and his code now huh.

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Speaker 2: Well you uh, he'd adhere to it pretty well. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Some of the position, that position defensive end. You know,

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Speaker 3: the sacks you got, you got a hundred sacks in

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Speaker 2: That halp, you gotta get that in there.

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Speaker 3: Put one hundred sacks in your career, man, I mean

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Speaker 3: that's pretty impressive, you know, because a lot of guys

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Speaker 3: ain't getting that. They got five six. Now they talk

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, you know, the game is more than just

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Speaker 5: getting sacks, man, It's about setting up moves, you know

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Speaker 4: I'm more of a strategist.

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Speaker 5: I think that the game is more like chess, and

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Speaker 5: And I try to break guys down mentally first and

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Speaker 5: I've done is my teammates. I had the greatest teammates

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Speaker 5: and I think that's what Bill Walshton is there, that

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Speaker 5: it's it's not about individuals, it's about team and the

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Speaker 5: power of team. So and I learned that if you know,

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Speaker 5: if Levin guys speak with one voice, it'll blow down.

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Speaker 4: Amen.

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Speaker 3: Amen, Well, it's an individual's benefit from team's success. You know,

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Speaker 3: I wear this proudly, but I ain't here if it.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't for this.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the Dallas Cowboys and those players I played with,

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Speaker 3: the coaching up I got, and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 3: When you talk about that analytical stuff and how preparing

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Speaker 3: and we.

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Speaker 2: As teammates would have loved you as well.

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Speaker 3: You know, you're one of those guys that I look

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Speaker 2: We would have found a place for you. So you

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Speaker 2: know what, I'd been mad when I walked in.

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Speaker 4: Somebody got give.

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Speaker 2: A little job, but we got you fired up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but y'all ran a three three, three four, so

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Speaker 5: they were room enough for me to get there. But

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Speaker 5: gonna show you what I got. And you know, I

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Speaker 5: I was a very violid guy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I didn't. I didn't put up with much.

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Speaker 2: You weren't fitting in the scheme.

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Speaker 4: I didn't.

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Speaker 5: I didn't fit in with players because I didn't. You know,

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Speaker 5: I never had friends.

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Speaker 3: Where did you get that from coming out of James Madison,

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Speaker 4: Come out of high school? Out of high school?

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Speaker 5: You know, I walked out of high school with probably

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Speaker 4: And so I was.

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Speaker 5: I didn't let people inside my house and and so

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Speaker 5: And I didn't care. I didn't care. And I'm telling you,

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Speaker 5: Bill Watsh called me up to the office board a

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Speaker 4: Hey, I would tell you. I'll let me tell you

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Speaker 4: this one. You're gonna love this one.

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Speaker 5: So you know how you don't supposed to have certain

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Speaker 5: you know, I made a mistake and I did that,

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Speaker 4: I said, I'm only making six.

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Speaker 5: I said, how I'm gonna go home and tell my

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Speaker 4: The house favoring right, and you play it right? And

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Speaker 4: I said, so what I'm gonna tell my wife about this?

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Speaker 5: He said, So? Then I said, I'm going home now.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 5: He pushed me to the side and told me get

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Speaker 5: So then he said, Charles, he said, you know, certain

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that was.

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Speaker 4: One of my best games, brother.

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Speaker 3: And then you took it from there. See, he knew

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I you know, my locker room value came when I

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Speaker 5: I had been a thump of my whole career there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you made the right decisions yes day.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the first time.

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Speaker 5: And then I go over there and guys, you know,

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Speaker 2: You're the same Charles Haley locker room.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm two hundred and thirty five.

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Speaker 5: And they'd heard all the stories so that they said,

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Speaker 4: Or whatever? And I said, and so you know, it.

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Speaker 5: Was a it was a rough few days, man, But

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: It was a matter of themjusting to you, but you

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Speaker 5: Hey, Chance, I don't know about that one, Drew. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if they're adjusted to me, but I well

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying you could play with us. We

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Speaker 3: We were that way, you know, and we had the

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Speaker 2: Trying to be nice suiting ties in the game.

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Speaker 3: But and all those teams think that when they played us,

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Speaker 3: let's talk a bit about your cowboy career and making

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Speaker 3: that adjustment coming to the Dallas Cowboys. All right, we'll

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Speaker 2: To the Route Tree. Welcome back to the Route Tree.

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Speaker 3: I'm Drew Pierce from the original Mountain for eighty eight,

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Speaker 3: hanging out today.

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Speaker 2: Over here in Cowboys Star.

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Speaker 3: Look at these facilities, Man, I've upgraded and all this.

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Speaker 2: With my podcast. Then the Route Tree, it's the name.

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Speaker 3: Was thought of by the Dallas Cowboys in their marketing department.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not smart enough to think of something like that.

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Speaker 5: Hey, rude, you realize that you set the stand of

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Speaker 2: Amen?

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Speaker 4: Amen, do you realize?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I do?

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Speaker 4: Hey, you hot to be proud.

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Speaker 2: Of that, and I am, and I am and I will.

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Speaker 3: And the thing I'm most proud of is that they

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Speaker 2: And being a team leader.

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Speaker 3: One of the biggest things that I enjoyed doing was

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Speaker 12: Here's Roger Staubach, Here's Bob Lily, Here's Leroy Jordans. You know,

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Speaker 12: you know, you get around that kind of success, then

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know both of us low draft picks, yea,

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Speaker 5: You know, hundred pounds, you were two hundred pounds. I

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Speaker 3: That wasn't mandatory in college.

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Speaker 2: And hey, same here, I didn't lift anything. I got

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Speaker 4: Hey, I never looked.

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Speaker 2: But you were a defensive line. You need that strength.

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Speaker 5: If you look at most of the players, now, that's

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Speaker 4: You know, hey, I want mine right on.

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Speaker 2: These are coaching points. You just mentioned about three of them.

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Speaker 5: They are half of that half of them said, you know,

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Speaker 5: So everyone that said I can't, I don't talk to you

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Speaker 4: Right, they've done.

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Speaker 5: They just shut down, you know, And I'm going like,

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Speaker 5: you take that away, you'd have took away ninety percent

444
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Speaker 5: of the double white when they do like the they

445
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Speaker 5: call it a double white. If you take that away,

446
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Speaker 5: that's ninety percent of every football players ability.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 3: See, but they don't know that well apparently, you know. See,

449
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Speaker 3: those are the coaching points. I see receivers right, you know,

450
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Speaker 3: and I see things that's like rubbing your fingers on

451
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Speaker 3: the chalkboard, you know, and you're like, oh, man, if

452
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Speaker 3: you just went inside instead outside, you know, the interception

453
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Speaker 3: wouldn't happen. And things are little coaching points like that.

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Speaker 3: You wish you could just pick up the phone or

455
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Speaker 3: get into the TV and say something during the game,

456
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Speaker 3: not to wait till after the game, because you see

457
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Speaker 3: that now and then you come to the sideline they come,

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Speaker 3: you know, see them being accountable for that that kind

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Speaker 3: of mistake they might be making.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of guys

461
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Speaker 5: because I'm real. I go and tell them, you know what,

462
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Speaker 5: you're the worst, You were the worst player out there,

463
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Speaker 5: and and that you read you do unless you do

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Speaker 5: A B and c CE. Not only do I tell

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Speaker 5: them the problem, but then I tell them how to

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Speaker 5: solve the problem. And especially the offensive line. They have

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Speaker 5: no agility. They need to work on that agility. They

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Speaker 5: just Hey, if you watch them, they have no balance.

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Speaker 5: But you know what, nobody wants to listen. Hey, d line, Hey,

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Speaker 5: they they just I've never seen athletic people like this

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Speaker 5: playing defensive end and not being successful. They are the

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Speaker 5: most athletic strong. Hey, they way better than me athletically, right,

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Speaker 5: But you know what that mind is, Hey, that mind.

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Speaker 3: When you say balance that as far as defensive lineman,

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Speaker 3: what are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Offensive lineman is the balance part because they get that

477
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Speaker 5: feet too close.

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Speaker 2: Together and they reacted to that or.

479
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Speaker 5: They head over the over their hands and shoot. I

480
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Speaker 5: tell tell those guys, man, you know what I would.

481
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Speaker 5: I would have had three hundred sacks I played against.

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Speaker 5: You know, because you stick them hands out, you're in trouble.

483
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Speaker 5: You know, you better get in front of me, You

484
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Speaker 5: better move, get in front of me. And you know

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Speaker 5: I just the thing I want to do is I

486
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Speaker 5: want to have a camp because that art of war mhm,

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Speaker 5: you know I want to I want that to I

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Speaker 5: want to.

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Speaker 4: Pass that on. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: But these guys they talk about how big, tough, where

491
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Speaker 5: they came from. A man, they scared to get bread.

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Speaker 2: They listen, bru, they don't want to listen.

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Speaker 3: See, they they devel up this artificial talent, your real talent.

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Speaker 3: You know, it ain't about lifting weights and all that

495
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Speaker 3: kind of stuff, but playing football, you know, That's what

496
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about.

497
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Speaker 2: Playing football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, all the coaches do is scheme. Now, they don't teach.

500
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Speaker 5: They don't teach technique. They just scheme. And you know,

501
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Speaker 5: like in the game, man, you know they playing for

502
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Speaker 5: the run and the quarterback sitting back there patting the football.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: So okay, so you can't do both. And that's what

505
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Speaker 5: I don't understand. And hey, I played both. But you

506
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Speaker 5: know what my first step is going to be upfield.

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Speaker 4: Field?

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Speaker 2: Baby? Did you use the headslap?

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Speaker 4: No when you could? No? But it depends on if

510
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Speaker 4: I like the guy or you.

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Speaker 5: Know, you know, I'm a butthole. I told the ref

512
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Speaker 5: I think he spent on me. Rep and guy. The

513
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Speaker 5: guy goes, no, I did nothing on the ground. I said, no,

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Speaker 5: he didn't ref he's fit on me. About five six

515
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Speaker 5: plays rough, they're.

516
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Speaker 2: Looking over there, brou Hey.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I made that dude start speaking Spanish. He went

518
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Speaker 5: over there and said, no, Moss here, want no more.

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 3: You know that Harvey Martin was my roommate, you know,

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Speaker 3: on the road, and so he would say, Drew, I'm

522
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Speaker 3: just gonna I know it's not allowed, but I'm gonna

523
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Speaker 3: give him a good headbringer, a bell ringer on that

524
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Speaker 3: first play, on the first pass rush bam upside the

525
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Speaker 3: head and then take it from there the rest of

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Speaker 3: the gay Yeah right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, hey, that's a standard.

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Speaker 3: And you might get a penalty, but that penalty at

529
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Speaker 3: that point in the game might.

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Speaker 4: Be worth it.

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Speaker 5: Well, Bill Washed, you know, I'm a rookie. He walked

532
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Speaker 5: in the D line room. He said, within the first

533
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Speaker 5: five plays, I want that quarterback on his back.

534
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Speaker 4: Wow.

535
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Speaker 5: Now he didn't say he didn't want him on his back.

536
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Speaker 5: So you know what on that third place, I'm on

537
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Speaker 5: planet and I got fifteen yards, so I come, I

538
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Speaker 5: come to the sideline, and then the D line coach,

539
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 5: you know, he's yelling and right, and then all of

540
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 5: a sudden he got quiet and he looked down there

541
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Speaker 5: to Bill. So Bill must have got in his button, man,

542
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: because from Ben on we were good.

543
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but capability there you go.

544
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Speaker 4: You know that's right.

545
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hey, Bill measured his words and I loved it.

546
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Speaker 3: You know when we played him in that championship game,

547
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Speaker 3: you know, when Dwight Clark made the catch and all that,

548
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Speaker 3: and when we scored and our defense took the field

549
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Speaker 3: against their offense. Bill walsh Man he engineered a drive

550
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Speaker 3: that was memorable and we're on the sideline pretty impressed

551
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Speaker 3: offensive players watching us move from the twenty to the twenty,

552
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Speaker 3: you know, and he did it analytically, Freddy Solomon running

553
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 3: those quick screens, he had us moving, moving, and then

554
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Speaker 3: hit us up the middle.

555
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: With Roger Craig and all that kind of stuff.

556
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you played with some great coaches and you bring

557
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Speaker 3: that kind of knowledge to the game.

558
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Speaker 2: And that's the kind of knowledge I know.

559
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Speaker 3: You feel like you want to pass on man Drew

560
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Speaker 3: because I hear you.

561
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Speaker 2: I hear it overflowing out of your mouth. Right, Oh my.

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Speaker 4: God, my rookie year.

563
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Rams Rams scored two touchdowns within

564
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Speaker 5: minutes and Bill Wats called time out. We on the sideline.

565
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Speaker 5: He did not say one word. So then they've got

566
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Speaker 5: a fifteen yard penalty and they went to TV time

567
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Speaker 5: out and he goes, I don't know who in the

568
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 5: heck been teaching it this, but they're gonna get fired.

569
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Speaker 5: And then him and Joe got them on the ground

570
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Speaker 5: because he asks for his clipboard, but they didn't get

571
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Speaker 5: the clipboard, fads, and so they drew up a plate

572
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 5: on the ground. Wow, and Joe went in threw a

573
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Speaker 5: touchdown to Jerry Wright.

574
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Speaker 4: Wow.

575
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Speaker 5: Hey, bruh, that's cemented him in my life whatever, I've

576
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Speaker 5: never seen anything like that.

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Speaker 2: So the pads or not, Oh my god. And it worked.

578
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Speaker 4: It will work.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we should do some of that. Let's go back

580
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Speaker 2: to some old school and we'll come back.

581
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Route three. I'm Drew Parson, my

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Speaker 3: special guest today. None of others then my ring of

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Speaker 3: honor brother, my Hall of Fame brother, Charles Haley in

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Speaker 3: the house. You don't wear none of your super Bowl rings.

635
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: I wear my stuff all the time. But you've got

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Speaker 3: five super Bowl rings and one.

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Speaker 2: Of these with oh lord there you go?

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Speaker 4: All right? We good?

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Speaker 2: You got five five rings and one of these? You

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Speaker 2: know't when you keep them? What do you do with them?

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Speaker 5: I'm damna safe. My problem is a hunger and thirst.

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Speaker 4: For it.

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Speaker 5: Once I got got one ring, the hunger was there,

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Speaker 5: and I never even put it on because I wanted

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Speaker 5: another one. And I was afraid to put it on

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Speaker 5: because I thought I would look at and become satisfied,

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Speaker 5: and and and people, you know, I didn't like people

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Speaker 5: And then in my mind I saw thinking, like, you

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Speaker 5: know what, I already achieved it, and that was not

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Speaker 5: not the way I was.

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Speaker 2: But that cowboy ring, that last one got to be

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Speaker 2: the biggest.

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Speaker 3: That's got five, Yeah, that's when the five world champions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that got to be.

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Speaker 3: Was that the most special super Bowl? Or which one.

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Speaker 4: Out of five out of five.

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Speaker 3: I played in three and only one ninety two?

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Speaker 4: Was?

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Speaker 5: Was we played Buffalo I guess we don't beat him

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Speaker 5: by the first first half. You know, we play a

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Speaker 5: second half here, and but Michael Jackson was performing. Oh wow,

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665
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Speaker 5: He yeah, thriller. Hey, I was wondering where he got

666
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: all that from.

667
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: Don't write that. So because he ain't no thriller, he

668
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: had to get somebody to be.

669
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 4: So the team went in. You get it.

670
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 5: The team went in. Charles stayed out. Oh wow, Hey,

671
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 5: I was booon walking and Clat's baby.

672
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: Hello. You stayed out to check the halftime show.

673
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 4: Bro ain't nowhere in the heck, I'm going in.

674
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, I gave him that twenty thousand dollars that

675
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 5: we're getting for the Super Bowl. I did not care.

676
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: I'm staying this. This is a moment of a lifetime. Hey,

677
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 5: I'll never forget it.

678
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,479
Speaker 2: So did you get to meet him up closer or

679
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: did you?

680
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

681
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: I met Michael Jackson. I met Michael Jackson in London.

682
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 5: We went out there and we went I got pictures

683
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,239
Speaker 5: of it. We went down in the tunnel. Before we

684
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 5: went there. They gave us like forty things we can't do,

685
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 5: and one of them is hugging. And what did the

686
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 5: first day I do when I I put these arms around,

687
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 5: take that damn picture?

688
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: I said, yeah. And then then Ronnie and Keena, all of.

689
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 5: God, all of them want to come over there and

690
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 5: get a picture after I did.

691
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: You know, oh, brou I'm good with that. He was cool.

692
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was amazing man and he man, mom, when

693
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 5: he did that, it kind of I couldn't understand that

694
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 5: because the powerful voice that I hear singing and and

695
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 5: and that that voice that I heard that.

696
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 2: It seemed like it didn't match her. Yeah.

697
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 5: And then in London, so Prince and him was having

698
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 5: a concert. They were standing in the scene, so we

699
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 5: got to meet Prince and man, Prince got it. Prince

700
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 5: was the prettiest man I ever saw by life.

701
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 4: Bro Hey, man, I was like, it's wrong with me,

702
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: that's wrong with.

703
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 5: Menon looking like like no, I ain't never called.

704
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: The man, but you're like, hey, you could help you.

705
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 5: Oh my god, man, but hey and watch him performing.

706
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 5: Awesome man, pretty calm you got men, I've had some

707
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: of the greatest moments in my life.

708
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: And I was telling you at the Hall of Fame.

709
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan came up on stage and I told that brother,

710
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 5: I want a picture. But you know, I said, you

711
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 5: got to get in some light because you're dark man.

712
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 5: So we went and got a light, took a picture. Hey,

713
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 5: you say, ain't no flash.

714
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: I ain't no flash over you, bro.

715
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 5: It ain't gonna help out out that dog, I said,

716
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 5: old spotlight out loud by outside boys. And then and

717
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 5: then then my son, my son, God damn, I want

718
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 5: to meet Michael Michael Jordans, I said, okay.

719
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 4: So we went to about three parties.

720
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 5: Then we found Michael Jordan's and he was sitting there

721
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 5: holding court and.

722
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 4: I walk over. I said, hey, my son wanted to

723
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 4: get a picture.

724
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: I ain't tell them.

725
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 5: Hey, I said, my son will get a picture with you.

726
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 5: And I said, you know what, we gotta get it

727
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 5: in a life because you know you dog. And he goes,

728
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 5: you know, you start telling my son I'm a gold

729
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 5: you know I'm the best. I mean, man, he was crazy.

730
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I ainy dog. I'm sitting there going

731
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 5: like am I hearing this? And you know when my

732
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 5: son did, he didn't say one word. He took a picture.

733
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 5: He took a picture of Michael Jordan took two steps

734
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 5: and said I could die right now. I meant the

735
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 5: goat wow. And you know what else happened after that?

736
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 5: All the Hall of famers that were sitting around them,

737
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, they want.

738
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: To take a picture. Yeah.

739
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 3: Well, that's something that you did because you were a

740
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: Dallas cowboy. You were able to get that opportunity. Yes,

741
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: and now in your life after football, let's turn that

742
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 3: page a little. You know, you can't play forever. You know,

743
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: you had a nice career, Ring of Honor, Hall of Fame,

744
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: but you were able to parlay that into some great

745
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: opportunities in your life after football. And one of the

746
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: things that the charity that you support on a yearly basis,

747
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: and we'll find out in a minute how long you've

748
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: been doing it, but Tackle Tomorrow, let's talk about that

749
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 3: and tell me your involvement with that.

750
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: Well, I'm one of the co founders of Tako Tomorrow.

751
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 5: And you know, if they if the kids are not

752
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 5: reading at the three at third level, when they get

753
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 5: to the third grade, at third grade level, that's how

754
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 5: they dictate how many prisons to be built. See, I

755
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: grew up in I grew up in the South and

756
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 5: education with and pushed on me, and I went to

757
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 5: college reading two to three grade levels behind.

758
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: I had.

759
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 5: The hardest thing ever did in my life was to

760
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 5: get my call degree. Now, people looked over my papers,

761
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 5: but they didn't write my papers. And I you know what,

762
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 5: that was the hardest thing I done.

763
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: Did you graduate on time or you went back and

764
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: got it?

765
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: I graduated on time.

766
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 2: All right on, Give me something for that, right.

767
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 5: But I just don't want kids to feel the way

768
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: I do. Even now, if I get in front of people,

769
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 5: I can read, but I'm so nervous that you know,

770
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 5: I'll skip a you know, b you know, because you

771
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 5: know that fear is there. So I just want kids

772
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 5: to understand that they'll love and that we want to

773
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 5: put the tools around them for them to get that education.

774
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 5: We provide books for them, you know, computer computer labs,

775
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: We bring reading coaches in, We do a lot of

776
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 5: things to be doing stem rooms for the kids in

777
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 5: South Dallas. It's you know, it's for me, it, you know,

778
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 5: because I'm bipolar and a lot of times when I

779
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 5: start getting depressed, I need something to help me get

780
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 5: When you go down, you see a child smiling, get

781
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 5: a hug. Oh my god, how can you start? How

782
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 5: can you stay in that zone like that? And for me,

783
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 5: for me, it's great that a lot of people think,

784
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: you know, when I go to Walmart or Sam's Club

785
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 5: or Starbucks and buy some call feel help people with

786
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 5: that groceries and stuff, you know, I'm helping me. I'm

787
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: pulling myself out out of the funky and but yet

788
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: I'm helping them too, And so I understand that that darkness,

789
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 5: you know, And when I when I I'm bouncing off

790
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 5: the walls, I know right then that I need to

791
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 5: calm down, because that's when you you know, you start

792
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 5: going down, and it depends on how far you went up.

793
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 5: It dictates how far you're going down. And sometimes it's

794
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 5: it's just hard to get out of it, and I

795
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: lay I'm knuck a line. I don't have the answers

796
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 5: because I lay in bed for three days just you know,

797
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 5: I don't want to get up.

798
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: And it's something rooted in you that causes cause that,

799
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: or it's just part of your personality that you'd have

800
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: to grow up with and deal with.

801
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 5: I've been I've been dealing with mental illness all my life.

802
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 5: That's why I never had friends, because I didn't want

803
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 5: people to see that thirteen year old kid inside of

804
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 5: me screaming for help. And I thought that if I

805
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 5: had friends, people would figure that out a little. Did

806
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 5: I know most of the prayers that was around me

807
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 5: knew something was wrong, but I never seek help. And

808
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 5: the moment I went to do it, Diagno Center and

809
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 5: I got my medication regulated and from that day on

810
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 5: alcohol drugs was never a problem anymore. And I've been

811
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: sober almost twenty years, and you know, and I take

812
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 5: my medicine every day every day.

813
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: I'm proud. I'm proud of it.

814
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 5: But the thing that I had to overcome was just

815
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 5: saying I'm bipolar. You're not a mending you got a

816
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 5: mental illness. You just you know, you're just giving terms out.

817
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 5: When once you say I have a mental illness, you'll

818
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: claim it's all of it, you know, and not one specifics.

819
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 5: It's all law, minimal rights. And so I had to

820
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 5: do that. In the moment I did that, I started

821
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 5: speaking that I have a mental illness. You know, it

822
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 5: changed my life because now I'm not running from anything,

823
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 5: and I'm not ashamed to talk about it because.

824
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 2: You know, we aren't looking at you any differently.

825
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: I probably have more respect for you for admitting that

826
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: because there's so many people, well you know, Marshaw kneeling,

827
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: you know, so many people that are in that darkness

828
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 3: you know, and don't want to come out, don't want

829
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 3: to admit about I've done it.

830
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: You know.

831
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: I lost my brother in a car accident. That's what

832
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: rooted in me. And when you're talking about any room

833
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: and you don't want to come out to I get

834
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 3: in that mood too, But it never got to the

835
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 3: point where you know, I'm going to do something to

836
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 3: affect me that would hurt the rest of my family.

837
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

838
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 4: Well, I.

839
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 5: Can tell you you don't have mental illness then, because

840
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 5: when when that darkness comes, that docness comes, either you

841
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 5: got somebody to help or you like me. I tell

842
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 5: people all the time, choose one thing that you can

843
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 5: hold onto when darkness comes, And mine says my relationship

844
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 5: with Jesus Christ. I know that if I hurt myself,

845
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 5: I never meet him, and so that is my one

846
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 5: thing to live for. And if everybody picks one thing

847
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 5: to live for for them, you know, not for anybody else.

848
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 5: You got to pick it for yourself. And that's the

849
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: that's the biggest problem. And men, hey, we've been told

850
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 5: every simple a child, we don't supposed to show emotion. Hey,

851
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 5: we supposed to be violing. We're supposed to be men

852
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: because because we're football players. So you know what I thought, Yeah,

853
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 5: I thought, I thought, this is what you're supposed to do.

854
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 5: I didn't, you know, so I never accepted when they

855
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 5: were calling me doctor jacka muster hide in college and stuff,

856
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: I just thought, man, you know what, these these guys,

857
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 5: you know, they're attacking me, and I don't know why.

858
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 5: You know what, what do they want me to do?

859
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 5: They want me to lay people down, you know, or

860
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 5: knock them out. So, you know, I had to I

861
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 5: had to understand that, and and and so I and

862
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 5: I understand that men have the biggest problem. Women would

863
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 5: talk about their emotions, but the rest of us, which will.

864
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 4: Lock it up.

865
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: And you know, coming through the nineties, I mean, nobody's

866
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 3: talking about that. Then you know, when you're coming through

867
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: as a player and stuff like that, you know it's

868
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: not an issue.

869
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 2: It's an issue now.

870
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: The Players Association, the league, they got all these programs

871
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: to help players that will speak out and admit that

872
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: they have that kind of problem, but coming through at

873
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: that time, you ain't had nothing to fall back on.

874
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I'm not an advocate of what

875
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 5: the NFL is doing because all they do is bring

876
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 5: choir boys around to talk about mental illness. They don't

877
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,959
Speaker 5: bring people that that's been through it, gotcha and came

878
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: off the other side, gotcha. They want, you know, especially me,

879
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 5: I'm you know, because I'm hardcore. I'm not gonna sugar

880
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 5: coat anything. But I'm blessed that I can talk here

881
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 5: at the Dallas Cowboys and at the forty nine ers

882
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 5: and at groups here about it. And you know, I

883
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 5: go to I go to groups for mental illness workshop

884
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: and most of them are ladies. I'll say eighty five

885
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 5: percent of ladies. Hey, and we sat in there and

886
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 5: we talk about it, and I just, man, it's nothing

887
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,959
Speaker 5: like being able to just open up, let it go.

888
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: And when you come out of there you feel, oh God.

889
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's it's the best feeling in the world.

890
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that for a personal level, health level.

891
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 3: You can't beat a feeling like that of relief, you know, Yeah,

892
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: and God, bless you brother.

893
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 4: Today, Today, I'm gonna tell.

894
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 2: You I'm standing strong man.

895
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 5: I will never let anybody steal my joy. If you

896
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 5: come around me with that negativity, then guess what. I'm

897
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 5: gonna move on because my joy means more than me,

898
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 5: than anything else, more than money, more than women, more

899
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 5: than whatever. Hey, my peace. And you know I'm still

900
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 5: my father's son. I stay at home most of the time.

901
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 5: And you know, I'm a loner, and I'm a die loner,

902
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 5: but I got family and friends around me.

903
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, and now when is your birthday?

904
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 5: January sixth, nineteen sixty four, baby? You know my birthday

905
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 5: is when January twelfth.

906
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 3: And we still connect that way, you know, And I see.

907
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 2: I hear you talking.

908
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: I'm hearing a lot of what you're saying is what

909
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 3: I'm about too, you know, going through things. And then

910
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 3: I seen the connection. Now you know, January sixth, January twelfth.

911
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 4: The only way, you know, the only way you get

912
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: through it.

913
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: You got to go through it, amen, Amen.

914
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 5: And there's no there's no either way, you know, don't

915
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 5: get to the fire. Don't don't get to the fire

916
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 5: and stop. Yeah, it's time to walk through, you know.

917
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 5: And I tell people, you know what I'm I'm I'm

918
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 5: a diamond. So when I walk through there, man, I'm

919
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 5: a sparkle and I'm gonna shine. Man, I'm not gonna

920
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna allow my piece to be gone.

921
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 4: Right.

922
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 3: Well, I hope the Cowboys have opened up the door

923
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: and explained to these current players after going through the

924
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 3: devastating situation they did and losing a teammate and that

925
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: type of thing, and I hope they now feel like

926
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 3: they can come forward if they got an issue.

927
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 5: You know, like I do. Nothing's going to change their behavior.

928
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 5: You know, they may mourn for a few days, but

929
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 5: they're not going to tell everybody what's going on with them.

930
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 5: I go over, I see guys acting what I used

931
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 5: to do. I grab them, take them over to the

932
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 5: psychiatrist and say, you know what, hey, he needs help.

933
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 5: And you know, then the psychiatrists tell him, you know,

934
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: take some medicine. Then they'll say should I take it?

935
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 5: You know, so you know stupid, you know, you know,

936
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 5: you get. I can deal with them. But when when

937
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 5: you're up there with stupid, you're up there with God.

938
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: And so, like I said before, I praised Jerry and

939
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 5: them for allowing me to come over because I'm an

940
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 5: open book. If somebody want to talk about it, I'm

941
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: here for him. If somebody the forty nineers want to

942
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: talk about it, I'm here for him. If people on

943
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: the street want to talk about I'm here for him.

944
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 5: I don't I don't have the solution. I only tell

945
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 5: you what I went through and how I got through it, right,

946
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: and that's it.

947
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 3: And that should be motivation for anybody that's going through it. Yes,

948
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 3: you know, they might not be the all answer to

949
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 3: the problem, but it gives them a certain level of

950
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 3: motivation that say, hey, if you can overcome it or

951
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: deal with it and have this great career you know

952
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 3: because behind it, then I can do it too. Yes,

953
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 3: all right, we got some folks walking to buy all right,

954
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: on a cowboy tour. But anyway, Charles, let's wrap it

955
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Speaker 3: up when we get back with the final segment. And

956
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: this is great stuff, man, this is great stuff, and

957
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Speaker 3: we'll do it right back right after this. You got

958
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Speaker 3: be right back with the Route three right after this,

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Speaker 3: with the great Charles Haley hood Up.

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962
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Speaker 8: We're with you.

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Speaker 6: or the challenge you're facing, where with you?

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982
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983
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: I watched.

984
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 8: I've been seeing some good things totally. They have some talent,

985
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 8: you have some great talent, and.

986
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 9: They got some fire. Hoping this is the year me too. Oh,

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to wrap the show up with

1008
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Speaker 3: a great show, Charles. Thanks for taking the time to

1009
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: be with us and be so forthcoming. Uh talking about

1010
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: mental illness, mental toughness and all that, and then all

1011
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 3: about your great career as a five time Super Bowl champ.

1012
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: Who else has done that? Nobody, nobody.

1013
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 4: Tom Brady got seven.

1014
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I didn't even think of that.

1015
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: He got seven.

1016
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: So it's no who's done that, nobody?

1017
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 4: But who got there first? Who got their job?

1018
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 2: Hello? Yeah, y'all.

1019
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 3: And all he did was get behind the center and

1020
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 3: you know what, did his thing, but you got you

1021
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 3: made life misserable for the quarterback.

1022
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: I want to thank you for always supporting Tacklamar and

1023
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 5: our kid. Absolutely when I call on you, man, all

1024
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 5: I give is a smile.

1025
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 4: Linna, Yes, absolutely.

1026
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: You have never failed your daughter, Belinda.

1027
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 4: She had Brianna.

1028
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 3: Brianna. Yeah, she does a great job, you know, keeping us.

1029
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 3: And then you know, when when you have an event

1030
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: or somethington in connection with Tackle tomorrow, you get the.

1031
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 2: Guy used to show up. Guys show up. You know,

1032
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if you like threatening no more what

1033
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 2: they show up.

1034
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 4: I just you know what and support they.

1035
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 5: You know what I think now, Hall of famers and

1036
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 5: everybody understand, I'm able to give something away that I

1037
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 5: held close to me in and that's me. Now I

1038
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 5: want friends. I want people to know and understand who

1039
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 5: Charles Haley is. He's not that bad guy, you know.

1040
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 5: That's that's the persona that I had when I play.

1041
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 5: But this is Charles Halen. Now, this is my walk.

1042
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: And we made a guy, a pretty good guy friend

1043
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 3: now through Tackle Tomorrow and supported you guy named Tom Drake.

1044
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1045
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:55,240
Speaker 4: Hey, he's a great dude. Hey, hey, a roofing company,

1046
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: Drake's Roofing.

1047
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 5: I'm going like, man, that was the biggest, biggest white guy.

1048
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1049
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: Hey, man, he got the biggest hit. I thought some

1050
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: more at first.

1051
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: What did you do tell him to take that homet off?

1052
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 5: Hey?

1053
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: Hey, but he's a good guy. But you're doing a

1054
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: Christmas thing for him. Man, you're dretching up as Santa Claus. Yeah,

1055
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: and what about that?

1056
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? We're whatever Tom wants.

1057
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because he support tacklemar were not only

1058
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 5: with his time and his money, and so I'll do

1059
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 5: whatever I gotta do for that.

1060
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Speaker 4: Yes.

1061
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 5: To finish up, we're having a Christmas celebration on the

1062
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 5: eighteenth in so after Illis. We're giving away thirty five

1063
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 5: hundred meals. If you would like to support us, go

1064
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Speaker 5: to tacklemar dot com and make a donation to help

1065
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Speaker 5: us fund us.

1066
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Speaker 3: And if you don't do it, Charles will come find you.

1067
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Speaker 2: You know what that Charles, we didn't have to find

1068
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: you today.

1069
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Speaker 3: Thanks for being part of the show Man and you

1070
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 3: making this show what it is, a route tree. You

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00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: never ran a route, but you ran one today on

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Speaker 3: the rout tree. Charles Taylor, y'all all right. We'll be

1073
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Speaker 3: back with another show next week right here on the

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Speaker 3: route Tree. Thanks for stoning tuning in hood houck we

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Speaker 3: out bam.

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